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Current Laws of your Kingdom of Treeline:
>Rape punishable by death
>Stealing costs you 2x the value you stole
>False testimony is punishable by 3 years hard labor or more.
>Murder is punishable by dying the way the person you murdered did

Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>39924665

>>39924748
Map Key: Dragon:dragon lair
Cow:Ranch
Pick&shovel:Mine
Anchor:Port
Small houses:Village
Large Castle:City/Castle
Small Castle: Fort
Bear: BEARS!
Cathedral: Angelic Church
Tepees:Nomadic tribal lands
Roman Temple: Temple
Metal Gate Door: Dungeon
Ship: Pirates
Trident: Mermen
Crumbled buildings:Ruins
White Tree: Powerful magic source
Black circle with white star: Your Capital
Dinosaurs:DINOSAURS!
Whale: Sea Monster
Broken Ship: Ship wreck

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>39924665

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>39924665

Rolled 5 (1d20)

>>39924665

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>17
A Great Success!

The roads back to your kingdom are surprisingly less fraught with danger as one would expect and you return home with almost no incident. However just outside your borders you come across a traveling band of bards.

"Greetings and well meet! Far we have traveled, so pardon my questioning but are you no other then the Princess Lumora of Treeline, herself?" Ask the lead bard.

>Indeed, you may bow.
>Yes, I am her.
>Yes, unfortunately for you (Attack)
>No (Lie)
>No, Just a traveling merchant caravan (Lie)
>No, Just a traveling band of bandits (Lie & Attack)
>Ignore them
>Other

>>39925172
>>Indeed, you may bow.

Let's throw them off and see what they do.

>>39925172
"What is your business with the Princess?"

>>39925172
>Yes, I am her.

>>39925216
>>39925299
So I'm the only one who's assuming they might be assassins, good to know.

>>39925172
>Yes, I am her.
>What business have you?

>>39925341
I don't doubt the possibility, but it is bad for business to be distrustful of all adventurers, and we do have our guards and Haroldnarl with us.

>>39925172
>>Yes, I am her.

>>39925341
Not at all but I don't want to come off as a prick to people who could be ally's

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>>Yes, I am her.

"Oh most fortuitous!" Says the bard. "Please your highness allow us to perform for you before we part ways. It's free of charge, the prestige alone is worth it."

>I would enjoy a performance
>As much as I would love to I must be on my way
>No thank you, I must be off
>No
>Be gone from sight

>>39925341
If they are assassins they already know she's the Princess.

>>39925634
>>As much as I would love to I must be on my way

>>39925634
>As much as I would love to I must be on my way
>Would you play for the court tonight?

>>39925634
>As much as I would love to I must be on my way
Smells fishy....

>>39925634
>>39925677
Dis.

>>39925634
>>As much as I would love to I must be on my way
>Would you play for the court tonight?

>>39925677
I'll back this.

Never trust bards.

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>>39925677
>>39925718
>>39925743

>As much as I would love to I must be on my way
>Would you play for the court tonight?

"If you would allow us would be honored to play in your court, your highness"

>Then I shall see you there.
>I'll allow it
>I'm afraid I can't allow that
>I won't allow your band into my court.
>What makes you think you're worthy enough to perform in my court?
>Other

>>39925844
>Then I shall see you there.
You will of course have to pass through security I hope you understand.

>>39925844
>Then I shall see you there.

>>39925844
>Then I shall see you there.
There ARE consequences for snubbing what is essentially the Mass Media of this tech level.

>>39925844
We did make the offer... so there's really only one option.

>>39925844
>>Then I shall see you there.

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>Then I shall see you there

"Happy day! We shall all have a most wonderful evening. Come lads! We must practice. We serve royalty tonight~"

You finally make it back to your castle just before nightfall. As you make it back to your court, a raven falls through a nearby window, a huge gash in it's wings as it lays on it's side.

>Approach the bird
>Have the gaurds toss it out
>Have a cleric tend to it
>Other

>>39926121
>>Approach the bird

>>39926121
>>Have a cleric tend to it

>>39926121
>Approach the bird
>Have a cleric tend to it
We ARE allied with the Druids, and this seems like something they'd use as a messenger.

>>39926121
>Approach the bird
>Have a cleric tend to it

>>39926168
Them or any with money, do it could be from Steelgate. Wont know intil we read the message that probably strapped to the leg.

>>39926121
>>Have a cleric tend to it
>>Approach the bird

>>39926121
>Have a cleric tend to it
>Approach the bird

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>Approach the bird
>Have a cleric tend to it

You tell your personal cleric to come close and heal it as you approach it.

The cleric begins to perform her healing magics as you get close but it seems unaffected. That is until it forces itself back up and you notice the half of it's body that was on the ground is riddled with tears down to the bone, with even an eye missing.

"Squawk!" It sounds before mechanically ticking the angle of it's head towards you. "hello princess. Pardon the interruption. I wanted to have a little chat with you." Says the voice of the Lich, The King of Ivory.

>Destroy it
>Let it continue speaking
>"What is the meaning of this intrusion, Ivory king!"
>"What do you want?"
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."
>Other

>>39926460
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

>>39926460
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird, but you are a bit past your prime, yourself, aren't you."

>captch is now asking me about sandwiches

>>39926460
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

I hope you do realize your plan to kill everyone off was shortsighted and VERY poorly planned. (Cleric's name here) If he tries anything sear him from existence with Saerenae's light.

>>39926460
>Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

I kinda want to play all the other nations off each other, including the Lich.

We really only allied with the dwarves to get on their good side. Nothing personal against Ivory.

>>39926460
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

>>39926460
>>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

>>39926559
Yeah, so do I but it probably won't end well. It'll be fun as hell though.

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>Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

You say as you personal Cleric Farahdol stands at the ready to purge it with holy light.

"Well this dying raven is merely a puppet, an instrument, a tool. You should know a thing or two about puppets right princess? You've managed to string along an entire kingdom to believing your worth following after all." He says before laughing.

"but I haven't come to speak with you to mock you. In fact in some ways I've grown to respect you. That's why I come to talk to you. I think you'll listen. I might be taken down a peg but there's still something rotten going about between your neighbors. In particular the beloved Angelic Chruch. Yes, yes, the paladins are sworn to destroy undead like me, but I mean beyond that prejudice. Hear me out and I might just be able to save one of your friends."

>I'll hear you out...for now...
>Whose in danger?!
>Begone foul necromancer! I wish not to hear your honeyed words!
>This better be good
>Farahdol, I've heard enough, fry him (Attack)
>Other

>>39926716
>Whose in danger?!

Our "heretic" cleric, right?

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Oh boy princess of exile quest!
>>39926460
>"Well finally nice to speak with you in the flesh. Granted it's in a rotted bird."

>>39926716
>>I'll hear you out...for now...
>This better be good
Farahdol make sure he's not laying down any spells while we talk.

>>39926716
"Oh, don't worry, I already know. Thank you for the warning, however."

Who wants to team up with the Lich to purge the holy lands?

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>>39926716
>I'll hear you out...for now...
>Whose in danger?!
This guy...

>>39926716
>I'll hear you out...for now..
>Whose in danger?!

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What is our position on elves?

>>39926716
And we were having such a lovely chat. Then you had to ruin it by saying someone's going to die. Who is it, then you can get back to questioning my intelligence, I know you'd rather be doing that.

>>39926810
Meh. Don't care yet.

>>39926716
>>This better be good

>>39926825
We have an elven ranger, right? Maybe we could encourage some immigrants.

>>39926810
They seem to be dicks from what we know.

>>39926716
>"You should know a thing or two about puppets right princess? You've managed to string along an entire kingdom to believing your worth following after all."

Goddamn! Wow, shots fired.

I vote

>"Whose in danger?!"

but only after we look away, kind of hurt but also really impressed...because that was a pretty good line

>>39926810
Well you know they are pretty isolationist for the most part and are currently holding a sleeping spell on a ancient red dragon that they can release at anytime to unleash it on the dwarves mountain range. Which they have frequently used as a bargaining chip against them. Other then that you know they have a powerful magical source called the Tree of Light.

>>39926716
>This better be good
Angels aren't gods. They have not the foresight, intellect, or perspective that the gods have.
Angels are not to be trusted, for they are not perfect but demand that they be treated as such.

>>39926716
>I'll hear you out...for now...
>Other
Mention that we already know about their stance on clerics who still pray to the gods but also we should point out to him that the Church already came by and their messenger gave us a cryptic warning before leaving.

>>39926922
>>39926810
It's worth mentioning that they used the sleeping dragon to demand the Tree and quite a bit of land from the dwarves.

>>39926983
They demanded land and a tree?

These are not your average tree-huggers.

>>39927015
They're a bunch of rules lawyers, because technically the agreement with the dwarves for the Tree in exchange for dealing with the dragon did not explicitly state that they had to kill it.

>>39927082
....I deal with legislation as part of my job, so I can't help but appreciate them for being smart....fucking elves.

>>39927082
Not to mention we rarely know what they are capable of, aside of those dragon sleepy spells.

>>39926983
>>39927015
I'd also like to mention that the plans from last thread to try to awaken the red dragon and use its awakening to force the elves to ally with the dwarves to kill it is pretty stupid, since the elves are the ones who put it to sleep in the first place with magic. Why won't they be able to put it to sleep again, especially since they control the most powerful source of magic on this continent?

Also, asking the Green Dragon how to kill dragons?
The Green is lazy and a NEET, not fucking retarded. It's obvious that any advice it gives could be used to kill it, and it's not stupid enough to fall for that.

>>39927144
We don't want to kill the Green Dragon, though, precisely because it is lazy and NEET.

>>39927144
Wait, why wouldn't the Red Dragon be mad at the Elves for knocking it out? And perhaps, more importantly, mad at them for having the audacity to use it as a bargaining chip.

Is it an ally of the Elves?

>>39927204
No if anything the first thing it'd do is go burn down the elves place then go after the dwarfs

>>39927225
Ah. So their biggest threat is literally a suicidal dragon bomb?

Damn. This is going to be a far more interesting quest than I anticipated.

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>>39927266
>Damn. This is going to be a far more interesting quest than I anticipated.
This quest is already hurting my head because politics
SEND HELP

>>39927225
It waking up will destroy the dwarves first.
Remember the location of the red dragon's lair.

The elves are simply confident that by the time the red dragon has dug its way out of its lair and laid waste to the dwarves in the process, they can put it back to sleep again because, as said before, they control the continent's greatest source of magic.

>>39927182
We may not intend to kill it, but it's not going to want to tell us how to kill dragons for obvious reasons.

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>I'll hear you out...for now...
but
>This better be good
now
>Whose in danger?!

"Yeesh, no need to get uppity. Anyway, over the last few months the church has created this new policy of "re-educating" those who still worship the dead gods. However, since your brothers bounty on you has been mostly ignored, especially after providing aid against, well, me he's been trying a new tactic. Since your closest allies are the Druids of the forest he's been spending a lot of money and influence to get the church to consider Druids as heretics to.

Well as of last night he got his wish and church doctrine changed to include your tree hugging buddies as heretics. So now the church is as we speaking setting up an ambush to destroy your druid buddies with a small battalion of paladins.

All because your half brother wants to cut out one of your allies while making it look like it's all the churches doing, and he sits pretty looking innocent.

Now here's the deal, I can summon enough undead to stop the paladins before they kill the druids, making you seem neutral in the matter instead of outright attacking the church and your druids get to live another day."

>Please do it, save them!
>I'll defend them myself!...if I make it in time.
>The Druids can handle themselves
>What's the catch?
>Other

>>39927316
>I'll defend them myself!...if I make it in time.

But thanks for the offer. Can't accept because it'd make the druids look like real heretics.

>>39927316
>What's the catch?

The brother is such a cunt.

>>39927316
>I'll defend them myself!...if I make it in time.
Thanks for the offer, but this should be talked down first.

>>39927316
No good enterprise can be built upon a rotten foundation

>I'll defend them myself!...if I make it in time.

We have a duty to not deal with people who are needlessly selfish, cruel or evil. We have a duty to ourselves and our people.

>>39927316
>What's the catch?

We clearly need to annex Steelgate.

>>39927316
>What's the catch?

Also thank you for informing me about my brother. I can spin this.


I wonder how would the NEET dragon respond if he learned our bro was getting cults hunted down, including dragon cults?

>>39927316
>What's the catch?
I want to know what he's planning.
Of course we'll reject his offer, but we need to understand what angle he's trying to play.
That he can just send a battalion of undead anywhere he damn well wants is useful information already.

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>>39927399
>I wonder how would the NEET dragon respond if he learned our bro was getting cults hunted down, including dragon cults?
GENIOUS

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>What's the catch?

"No catch really, you get to play dumb, I get to kill some holier then though paladins. Then you can appeal to their, ugh, good natures and explain how they're being manipulated. Word will spread about this manipulation and the church will be weakened. Everyone wins! Well, you and me both win anyway. But if you want to sweeten the deal, we can become allies and I will reveal how the churches good intention will doom us all in celestial war."

>No thanks, I'll defend the druids myself!...if I make it in time.
>No thanks, just kill the paladins before it's to late.
>No thanks, just kill the paladins before it's to late, but make it look like it's a coincidence that your there, we can't have them thinking they're actual heretics.
>Hmm, the church has been a thorn in my side for to long, and if what you say is true, I can save more lives with you then them. you have yourself a deal.
>Other

>>39927669
>>No thanks, just kill the paladins before it's to late, but make it look like it's a coincidence that your there, we can't have them thinking they're actual heretics.

Question, would praising a supposedly deceased goddess have a chance at reforming her Celestial avatar?

>>39927669
the church is corrupt and easily led astray, time for NEW MANAGMENT! allies it is.
what could possibly go wronge

>>39927669
>No thanks, just kill the paladins before it's to late, but make it look like it's a coincidence that your there, we can't have them thinking they're actual heretics.

>>39927669
I'm going to ride our to save those druids. If some of the paladins die before I get there so be it. I will deal with my half-brother.

>>39927669
>Hmm, the church has been a thorn in my side for to long, and if what you say is true, I can save more lives with you then them. you have yourself a deal.
>Make sure to make it look like a coincidence that you are there though, Wouldn't want them to be branded ACTUAL heretics

>>39927669
>No thanks, just kill the paladins before it's to late, but make it look like it's a coincidence that your there, we can't have them thinking they're actual heretics.

Then run like hell anyway and try to kill all the undead, convince both parties that as long as the Lich King lives, he's the capital threat, come out of this with both sides as allies.

There's only room for one puppetmaster, and it ain't the guy who actually looks like a damn puppet.

>>39927669
I'm going to back this>>39927755

>>39927719
That's what the continuing practitioners hope with faith alone. The dead gods holy energies are still in work with clerical magic, however it is being administered by the devils, demons, and angels of their respective alignments.

>>39927669
>Hmm, the church has been a thorn in my side for to long, and if what you say is true, I can save more lives with you then them. you have yourself a deal.

I'm tired of playing the good holy charecters, lets try alling with the alternative groups.

Oh wait, I just realized. He'll be adding Paladins to his army.

>>39927825
hes alich, a couple undead knights arnt going to tip the scale THAT much.

>>39927669
>No thanks, I'll defend the druids myself!...if I make it in time.
We'd be in debt to the lich if we accepted his offer, and he could blackmail us with this later.
No, this is too damning in the long run.

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>Hmm, the church has been a thorn in my side for to long, and if what you say is true, I can save more lives with you then them. you have yourself a deal.
>Make sure to make it look like a coincidence that you are there though, Wouldn't want them to be branded ACTUAL heretics

"I knew you were smarter then you looked. Don't worry, I'll flank the paladins from an alternate direction and send some of my weakest units to the druids as well but have them run away after one hit.

We'll talk more later. Goodbye princess."

He says before flying back out the window.

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It's not long after you hear a knock at the chamber door. "Your majesty, the druids have arrived. Shall we let them in to perform?" Says one of the castle guards at the door.

>No, I have to many things on my mind right now.
>Yes, please, I could really use something to take my mind off things.
>Indeed! And please, bring everyone, and bring booze. Let's make this a party.
>Other

>>39928062
Well, this was a big change from the preceding decision.

>>39927810
You do remember that the lich's entire plan is to kill everyone on this continent in order to deny their souls to the two warring sides of the Eternal Conflict, right?
He still totally intends to kill us; we're just more useful to him alive and weakening the other powers on this continent since we agreed to work with him.

>>39928136
>Yes, please, I could really use something to take my mind off things.

*BARDS, the bards arrived, not the druids.

>>39928136
>Indeed! And please, bring everyone, and bring booze. Let's make this a party.
You mean the bards, right?

And we need to make sure that no one suspects that we just allied ourselves with the enemy of the entire continent.

>>39928136
>Indeed! And please, bring everyone, and bring booze. Let's make this a party.

>>39928136
>Yes, please, I could really use something to take my mind off things.

>>39928062
You know... people will start to talk if he keeps coming back... Frankly I'm surprised there isn't more talk about what's his face, the rapier wielding bandit guy.

>>39928179
Shiville? Yeah we need to train with him, get better at fighting.

>>39928136
>Indeed! And please, bring everyone, and bring booze. Let's make this a party.

>>39928136
>>Yes, please, I could really use something to take my mind off things.

>>39928193
That's a good point. We gotta get better at defending ourselves.

>>39928179
Shilvile, and ever since you conquered all the other bandit lords, and one of the remaining left alive. He keeps mostly to himself and bums around the castle and tavern flirting with what he can.

>>39928138
keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
on eless sword at our throat at the moment, and a potential tool later, plus we can betray him first when we are properly situated to do so.

>>39928230
Damn, is he depressed or just bored?

>>39928136
yes please, however, no booze, we have work in the morning.

>>39928319
A little of both, and a little scared of you to much to make trouble.

>>39928342
we should send him out with a small group of men to harash our brothers forces and mask themselves as raiders and thiefs.

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>Yes, please, I could really use something to take my mind off things.

The bards come in, joyous to be performing for actual royalty. Each one has a different instrument, quickly finishing tuning up, and the lead begins. "For her highness, I hope you enjoy the show."

(Roll 1d20 to see how good they are, first 3 rolls decide)

>>39928286
>keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
That saying doesn't mean that you ally yourself with your enemy so that everyone around you becomes your sworn enemy.
That's just stupid.

We still allied ourselves with a genocidal war criminal who still wants to kill us all. When this comes back to bite us, we won't have an opportunity to betray him because everyone else will be trying to kill us.

Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>39928409
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin~

Rolled 16 (1d20)

>>39928409
rolling

>>39928365
Raid for some horses maybe?

Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>39928409

>>39928423
that wont be an issue, as long as no one finds out! have faith brother, we can turn this to our advantage.

>>39928436
horses, an other supplies like waggons or carriages maybe. besides, every gold pieace of trade or money we keep from our brother and his puppets the better we are, twice over. let the bandit , well...bandit, just for our benefit and teh detriment of our enemies. privateer style, simple.

>>39928475
>as long as no one finds out
>thinking that a master of magic like a lich won't have recorded our agreement
>thinking that no one will be suspicious that Church agents who we're in conflict with because we're harboring heretics, suddenly get attacked within our borders by undead
>not thinking that the lich won't use this as an opportunity to blackmail us and alter the deal when it suits him

>>39928510
nyet, we can always claim the church is corrupt and that teh undead are ravaging our lands as well, play the victim. damage control, you can only be blackmailed if you let yourselve be cowed by him. we wont be.

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>>39928436
Constantly raiding nobles.

>>39928510
besides, who would believe a undead lichlord of death , over a exiled princess and her struggling forest realm of tree hugging hippies and outcasts.

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>16
A good success!

They're no maestro's but they are certainly better then your average bard. They end on a relaxing melody that puts you at east to get a good night sleep.

When morning comes, a ranger of yours reports that a small legion of undead came through the woods last night and killed a battalion of paladins and attacked the druids. Fortunately, he reports, that no druids got hurt.
The Paladin bodies were carried off by the undead until they left the forest in the direction of Steelgate. Besides this news, all is normal.

>Create New Law
>Construct a building
>Raid
>Hire someone
>Train someone
>Send Message
>Meet with an outside group
>Attack an outside group
>Other?

(Captcha is obsessed with hamburgers tonight)

>>39928558
we could also stage some fights with undead forces in public view or at prearranged locals we know our enemies will be monitoring.?

>>39928588
How the fuck would we do that? The lich contacts us, not the other way around.
And we have to consider how much magic that the Church has available, as well as the other kingdoms.

All your damage control is obvious bullshit in the face of magical truth zones.

>>39928582
1) send bandit lord whats his name to front as a thief in church lands, all proceeds going back to us of course.
2) try to open dialogs with the church, try to use our fancy diplomacy skills, to at least stay there druid hate, in lew of increase undead activity in the area.

>>39928582
Make a standing tax rate of 5%

Train our swordsmanship with Shiville.

Train some Mages and warriors

Raid a stable held or owned by a strong supporter of your brother's for horses.

>>39928582
>Hire someone
Someone who can train Cavalry
>Construct a building
Stables

>>39928582
>Send Message
Send a letter to the Church asking what their paladins were doing in our kingdom, though we are sorry to hear that they were wiped out by an undead legion.

Exiler, has it been publicly announced that the druids have been declared heretics? Because if it's not public knowledge yet, then it's going to look mighty suspicious if we start talking about it when no one is supposed to know.

>>39928662
>send bandit lord whats his name to front as a thief in church lands,
And what do we do if he gets caught?
Simply disavow him?

And you're sending him in alone? Not going to be able to do much, then.

>>39928667
Seconding.

>>39928631
our enemies are not so overly powerful that they have mastered every diplomatic tactic, abolished the concept of secrets , nor uncovered every lie ever spoken to them. there not omnipotent here buddy friend. they can be tricked if were careful.

>>39928667
>Hire someone
Someone who can train Cavalry
>Construct a building
Stables

Agreed, we need to start becoming a capable fighting force.

>>39928667
We have 1550 gold, and only 1 horse.
Shouldn't we get a stable and some more horses before hiring a cavalry trainer?

Not to mention, we're in a fucking uncleared forest with few clearings. We don't really have the population or the income necessary to support force projection right now.

>>39928696
WITH a group of men i said, small swift strikes. and yes, drop him like a rock. he IS afterall a bandit lord we defeated, no doubt hes just angry and spitful, dont believe his lies.

>>39928582
>Create New Law
About 5%-10% base tax rate.

Let's get some money in before trying to build anything fancy.

>>39928741
>WITH a group of men i said
No you didn't, not in that post.
And dropping the first bandit lord that swore their fealty to us that publicly is going to be a real hit to morale, and it would make others question their loyalty to us.

>>39928771
couldnt we do all three?
1) send banditlord and a group of volunteers to capture horses
2) create stables,
3) create 10% tax law.

>>39928798
how many of our warriors and civilians are former bandits? if not many, then no, few would care overly much. this guy is a criminal , rapist, murdering thief. we could execute him and itd only raise a mild stink...
if alot of our people are former bandits then that changes things.

>>39928819
Yeah, I don't really see why not.

>>39928842
We built our kingdom on banditry dipshit. We bested him in an honorable duel. He was willing to fight 5 experienced adventurers on his lonesome for us. Stop being an idiot.

>>39928842
Well the majority of your rangers and warriors are former bandits.

>>39928864
no need to be foul. not everyone has read every detail of the past couple threads, mate. Guy might be new.

>>39928842
>if alot of our people are former bandits then that changes things.
Are you fucking kidding me? You didn't read any of the previous threads?
For fuck's sake, nearly 80% of our human population (90% of the military) are former bandits, many of whom were directly under Shilvile.

>>39928864
>>39928875
oh, well then that changes things dosnt it. ....ass-hat.

>>39928885
There is every need to be foul when this kind of stupidity is on display.

>>39928910
This wouldn't have happened if you hadn't come in with your ignorant ass and tried to make important decisions that are stupid in the face of what has happened in the game so far.

>>39928910
dude, fuck off, even if im ignorant to our foundings, all i said was let him be a bandit. exile even said he was bored and depressed. your just being a cowardly asshole , cuase i couldnt completly assure it was risk free. jerk.

>>39928819
We kind of need to respond to the fact that the Church has declared the druids not only heretics, but sent a goddamn battalion of paladins into our borders without our permission for the sole purpose of killing our allies.

Shouldn't that take priority, since the Church still has the intention of killing the heretics/killing our allies?

>>39928910
Yeah trying to execute one of our oldest vassals because you haven't been keeping up: if you're going to quest read the archives.
>>39928972
Yeah we do I think we're giving it time for

>>39928972
yeah, your right. but other then adding on a "4) try to use diplomacy on the church" , i dont see what we could do. other then become a larger military presence.

>>39929020
>4) try to use diplomacy on the church
That's exactly what the lich told us to do, and write-ins are always a valid choice. Just because it's not a pre-written choice doesn't mean we can't do it.

Got a post right here suggesting we deal with the Church >>39928678

>>39928678
(Sorry for the late reply, I missed this one. The general public doesn't know, you know your brother knows, and that everyone in the church knows, however)

>>39929053
im aware, just didnt think exile would let us do all our ideas together. but if so , then i agree hole heartedly.

>>39929080
So can we write them a letter about what the fuck they were doing violating our territory? Never mind bringing undead I not it.

>>39929082
>just didnt think exile would let us do all our ideas together
So you'd rather get stables and a trainer with no horses, rather than begin to deal with the fact our brother is getting a major faction to start killing off one of our major allies?
Really?

>>39929082
Well if the majority agrees, I'll allow it. It will be a busy day for the princess to be sure.

>>39929080
If we can do it I'd definitely back>>39929102

>>39928582
Do
>>39928666
>>39928678
This sums it up really.

>>39929120
I'm down for it.

>>39928582
>>39929134
These two, yeah.

>>39929080
What's the level of magic that the Church can wield? Does magic in this world allow for things like Zone of Truth or anything like that, which could be used to get the truth magically out of someone?

>>39929015
alright, you win.i didnt read all the posts, and i should have. your right. still i didnt, i thought i had a good idea (backed up by QM comments) and suggested it. and you attacked me for it from the start, now you cherry pick through my comments and dissmiss me while cussing me out. you win, internet tough guy, ill stop playing. but for what its worth, and however you rationalise it, your still just an asshole.
Been fun exile, later.

I feel we should also bring up that the druids provided a small contingent in service against the undead, so it begs to question why they are being branded as heretics when they are obviously against the necromancer as well.

>>39929153
Detect lies is a common magical spell, it was even used earlier in an earlier thread when we confronted so adventurers who questioned are royalty.

Other then that though there's no other way to deflect falsehoods. So as long as you don't speak technical lies...

>>39929174
Good fucking riddance.
We don't need or want ignorant players like this shit.

>>39929174
Goodbye, hope you enjoyed the quest while you were here!

>>39929188
>why they are being branded as heretics when they are obviously against the necromancer as well.
The Church also branded our priest and clerics as heretics even though they were also helping fight against the lich.
The Church, and by extension the Angels, obviously see anyone who isn't completely indoctrinated and working for them, as a potential enemy that could be manipulated or suborned by the Demons or Devils.

>>39929174
First of all I'm not trying to be a tough guy, I was one of several snobs calling you out for trying to make a very bad decision because you didn't read the archives. You didn't even ask til after the fact. That get people on you in any quest. If you want to contribute read the archive ir ask questions before you start mouthing off.

>>39929233
Fucking phone auto correct you get the point

>>39929220
yeah, i really like the idea of starting and running a fledgling kingdom. i think you have a great concept and the wrtting on yourpart seems good and well timed . keep it up. ill be on nation later.

Okay we have a lot of ideas running around here.

>Make stable
>Train Shilvile in swordsmanship
>Raid for horses
>Hire a Calvary Trainer
>10% tax law
>Train some mages and warriors
>Send a message to the Church

To simplifying things, pick three things, and we'll do the most popular three.

>>39929340
>>Train Shilvile in swordsmanship
>>10% tax law
>>Send a message to the Church

>>39929340
> Train *with* Shilvile in Swordsmanship
> 10% tax law
>Train some mages and warriors.

>>39929340
>Train Shilvile in swordsmanship
>10% tax law
>Send a message to the Church

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>>39929228
>The Church, and by extension the Angels, obviously see anyone who isn't completely indoctrinated and working for them, as a potential enemy that could be manipulated or suborned by the Demons or Devils.
ALL THESE POWERGAMES
MY HEAD
>>39929340
>Raid for horses
>Train some mages and warriors
>Send a message to the Church
We can deal with tax after all these shit is done with.
I'll agree on 5% tax though.

>>39929340
>Send a message to the Church
>Train with Shilvile in swordsmanship
I think he still has a higher swordsmanship level than us.
>10% tax law

>>39929340
>>Train with Shilvile in swordsmanship
>10% tax law
>>Send a message to the Church

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>>39929400
>plays a kingdom-builder Civilization game
>complain about politics, intrigue, and other factions on the map having their own agendas

>>39929340
>Make stable
>Train Shilvile in swordsmanship
>Raid for horses
>Send a message to the Church

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>>39929462
MY BODY WAS NOT READY

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>Train Shilvile in swordsmanship
>10% tax law
>Send a message to the Church

You start your morning by writing up a new tax law. Taxing 10% of the wealth of the general population. Your trade adviser Basalton, becomes acting tax collector. Your kingdom is small and poor, with a population of roughly 370. You gain 300 gold a month from taxes.

You get your ink and quill and write up a message asking why there were paladins in your territory without permission, and why there was an attack of undead in the area, and wither or not they had anything to do with attracting said undead to the area.

After the message is sent you find Shilvile at the bar of the tavern by himself drinking some of the dwarven ale you had brought back from Cravenwood.

You insist he begins training to improve his swordsmanship. He insist only if you train in turn with him. Together over the course of a week you play off each other styles and both learn some new things.

With his expert training you gain:
>Expert Swordmanship
And with your help Shilvile improves beyond expert to master. Giving himself the new title of Sword Lord.
>Lose 1 bandit lord
>Gain 1 Sword Lord

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By the end of the week of training, you finally receive word back from the church.

How is their response?

(Roll 1d20, best of first 3.)

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>39929651

Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>39929651

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>39929651

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>39929651
rollingu

>>39929661
They sent back our messengers head and intend on creating a crusade.

>>39929663
We heretic now?

>>39929661
Fuck........

>>39929689
We heretic now.

>>39929685
We take the best, regardless of crit fails.

>>39929708
It's still a 9 in this case.

>>39929708
even so I still have a bad feeling.

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>39929651
Sorry, I'm late!

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>9 Slight failure
During the weak of training they church publicly announces druidism as heresy.

"Dear Princess Lumora of Treeline

Firstly I would like to deny the accusation that our presence in your forest was what attracted the undead into your forest. True they attacked your druids as well so it's clearly not their blame. However, as you now know druids are now considered heretics by church decree, such non-holy magics are gate way to that which is un-holy.

We have jurisdiction in all the 3 kingdoms except yours for they have nothing to hide, do you? Having harbored heretics, and having undead roaming your forest, regardless wither or not they are connected, something ill is happening within your woods.

I will be sending a Holy Inquistor, to investigate this further and to "Re-educate" your druids. Should they refuse, they will be taken into custody. Should she find evidence of more undead in your forest, they shall be purged. Should you refuse him entry to anywhere he deems necessary for investigation, he shall report it back to us, and all the other kingdoms will know your hiding something.

We apologize for our intrusion without permission in our last visit. However there are more important matters then formalities, but since we are not unforgiving we will abide by them. May our Inquisitor investigate your kingdom?

Sincerely Arch Paladin Meraphim."

>Refuse inquisitor
>Accept inquisitor
>Other?

>>39929825
>>Accept inquisitor
>>Other?
We accept and welcome him to conduct his investigation.

However we do not recognise his authority to arrest the citizens of our country. We shall refuse to have them deported.

>>39929825
>Other?
First, I want to know why druids are considered heretics.
aren't druids protectors of the forest?
And not worshipping some god?

>>39929825
>Accept inquisitor
>Other?
We will not accept this label of heresy on druids, an order which the gods themselves had accepted.
There will be no extradition, there will be no re-education.
This is blatant over-reach of the Church, and the other nations will be notified of this.

>Send letters to the Druids, Dwarves and the Elves
This is not acceptable, as the Church is obviously overstepping its bounds.
Appeal to the elves that the Church has begun to show its true colors. It consider any magic not its own to be a threat and it's only a matter of time before arcane magics, the non-holy magics, are deemed by the Church to be heresy.
Enclose a copy of the Church's response to the Elves. They can see that the Church will come after them next, since the Church included non-holy magics as a gateway to the unholy.

>>39929825
>>39929949
This.

>>39929949

Perhaps we should consider some form of appeasement.

He/she would be allowed to present the church's grievances to the Druids on why they view them as heresy, allow dialogue to begin. Perhaps it can be settled amicably. And form of burning or executions will of course be met with lethal force.

>>39929825
Accept Inquisitor.

before we send the message back to the church we should warn the druids and witches and hold a meeting with the head druid and dragon to see what can be done about this inquisitor.

>>39929990
This guy spoke what I was trying to convey in >>39929879, but better.
I support this. If this fails, >>39929949

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>>39929949
>Accept inquisitor
>Other?
We will not accept this label of heresy on druids, an order which the gods themselves had accepted.
There will be no extradition, there will be no re-education.
This is blatant over-reach of the Church, and the other nations will be notified of this.

>Send letters to the Druids, Dwarves and the Elves
This is not acceptable, as the Church is obviously overstepping its bounds.
Appeal to the elves that the Church has begun to show its true colors. It consider any magic not its own to be a threat and it's only a matter of time before arcane magics, the non-holy magics, are deemed by the Church to be heresy.
Enclose a copy of the Church's response to the Elves. They can see that the Church will come after them next, since the Church included non-holy magics as a gateway to the unholy.

It is not long before the elves, quickly followed by elvish pressuring the dwarves give major greivences with the church. The inquisitor does not make it halfway to your castle before he is turned around by his superiors. With the pressure of 3 kingdoms, and not long inter conflict with the clergy, accusations of corruption and bribery flying, the church appeals church doctrine, reinstating only unholy, demonic, or necromantic magics as heresy. Several paladins are sent to serve the elves and dwarves as penance for this transgression. However, you are not sent any, and in fact you hear rumors among your citizens the following week that your kingdom has been forbidden to paladins by the church.

>Gain 300 gold in tax (1850 Total)

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(Alright folks, this has been a really great thread, and one of the most productive in a while. However it's getting late and I need sleep. Be sure to follow my twitter listed in the op for future threads. Never figured it would get so popular. Anyway I'll go archive this thread within the hour.)

>>39930294
Thanks for running Exile!
All this politics, god damn those buggers.

>>39930294
Alright Exile, thanks for the thread.
The Church is going to have to be dealt with eventually.
That's probably what the Lich wants. Pitting us against the Church, and weakening the one major bastion of holy magic standing in his way.

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>>39930264

This is fine. We should avoid the lich bargains again though. This was too convenient for us.

>>39930294

Thanks for running~

>>39930294
aaaand I just got here. Gotta love them timezones.

>>39930264
>>39930564
So we kinda have to take the initiative with this. We can't wait for the church to pull something else.

Can we improve the image of our own church or that of the druids? Let our clerics make branch chapels that feed and teach the poor.

Send druids to fix pollution and teach increase the bounties of the forest along the borders between us and the dwarves.