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>>40018616

You start loping across the base as fast as your bum leg will allow until you see a one of those golf-cart like things base personnel use for mobility, abandoned by the entrance to a discreet air-attack shelter. You leap into the seat and take off across base as a fresh flight of Patriots starts ripple-firing from the batteries set atop the low wooded hills to the west – you glance up and see them thundering into the sky at steep angles.

Level bombers and low intruders, then. You gun the golf cart, it's little two-cylinder motor sputtering and popping for all its worth with a long complaining breeeeeenabeeeengabeeenga!

You're not far from base housing – but you're not far from the practice ranges, either.

>Head for base housing – you're guaranteed to find SOMEONE there!
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018616
>Head for base housing – you're guaranteed to find SOMEONE there!
Get hornet, get her blooded and confident

>>40018630

totally forgot my trip lol

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

We really need some goddamn air cover.

>>40018630
>Head for base housing – you're guaranteed to find SOMEONE there!

>>40018663
ONE JOB!

>>40018630

>HEAD FOR THE FIRING RANGE

WE NEED CARRIERS

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

Gee I hope we don't run into Kaga but what are the odds of that happening, right?

>>40018616
>Head for the ranges

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018630
>Ranges
I WANT EVERY ALERT 5 BIRD IN THE AIR!

>no trip
Dammit planefag, two weeks in a row already

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pZccGH085Q

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges
And by that I mean actually head for the ranges -- Run for the hills

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>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

That or the trees for Kaga...

>>40018693

Kaga is professional enough to shove her shit aside when things get serious.

Hopefully

>>40018719
Always thought she'd be one to hold a grudge, oddly enough.

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>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

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>Kant-O-Celle Quest time
>I'm here for it

eeeeeeeeeeee!

>>40018737

I'm not saying that she isn't.

Just like, you know, smart enough not to stir up shit in a combat situation.

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018751
Oh god you have no idea man. I literally had to keep all my ULiL music tabs paused until Planefag's done writing.

>>40018757
Welcome aboard laddie!

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.
missiles are great, but we could use something better.

>>40018762
PRAY SHE DOESN'T HAVE PMS
PMS IS LIKE A BERSERKER SERUM ON ROIDS

Oh. Of course. OF FUCKING COURSE. Run for the fucking WEAPONS RANGES IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING ATTACK. Real fucking smart, skip. You don't think they won't hit those? Huh? "Lemme get in a big fucking empty field that's almost always got at least one HVT on it!" YEAH! BRILLIANT.

God fuckit you're going to give me an ulcer yet. I swear to fucking god.

>>40018693
High.

>>40018630
>>Head for base housing – you're guaranteed to find SOMEONE there!

>>40018757
Welcome to the mad house.

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Still waiting for Best Girl to appear. Pic related.

>>40018630
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

>>40018706
Dogfight?
Dogfight.
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6ZiySBy_w

>>40018800
>God fuckit you're going to give me an ulcer yet.
We do our best, Hate. This is just one in the long line of stupid, blatantly suicidal things we do.

>>40018630
>Head for base housing – you're guaranteed to find SOMEONE there!

>>40018800
Well then Cpl. Hate, can your little wolf pack can toss up some AA cover then?

>>40018800

Because the barracks isn't also a HVT as well amirite?

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>>40018616
>>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.
CARRIER HAS ARRIVED

>>40018842
>>40018800
Related.

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-3FOeBXDHA

>>40018800
Right, you'd have to be an idiot to do that. So obviously they won't think we'd go there.

When does the WWII shitposting start.
I want to make fun of the Yamato sinking like a bitch

>>40018751

i will cut u

>>40018616
You have a damn phone you stupid admiral. Use it to call the fucking base housing.

>inb4 Arizona answers

>>40018870
As Detective Kamina would say...
>You ever try just throwing something at a guy with a hostage? Of course not, who the hell does that? But that is exactly why it WORKS EVERY TIME.

>>40018630
>Call Base housing as you run to the range
MULTITASK

votes called writing woo

Alright, who else here thinks Naka would make a good Cardcaptor?
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSk8rLMHm_0

>>40018870
Oh my fucking god. You're going to die, then I'm going to get fucked with a jagged fucking metal cactus for letting it happen. Why the fuck did I ever even enlist god. I coulda been something fun, like a storm chaser or a fighter pilot or something.

>>40018800

And heading for CLEARLY WOODEN HOUSES that will most likely TURN INTO RUBBLE when those bombs hit? Or worse, EXPLODE INTO FLAMES, depending on what those bombers are carrying?

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>>40018895
Hey Pranefag...

GRAF SPEE WHEN?

>>40018980
>>40018847

So instead, you want to go to the barracks.

genius at work

>>40018988
>>40018895
USS Young when?

>>40018980
Quiet now Cpl, go do something productive, like sitting a closet with a thumb up your arse.

>>40018630
>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

Best place to find Willie D, given that's where we sent her last if I recall correctly. She's good at air cover, and that's what we need!

>>40018980
Relax, the only way they could anticipate that is if they thought WE were an idiot, and who expects the flag ranks to be... full... of...

Um

Well shit

>>40019009

INSTEAD I WANT YOU TO GO TO A BOMB SHELTER. OR MAYBE THAT FANCYASS ARMORED CIC I KNOW THIS FUCKING BASE HAS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE. IT EVEN HAS RADIOS AND MAPS AND SHIT!

But no. No. you fucking pick open field with HVTs or the fucking bays. good. good.

god fuck I swear they take out officer's common sense glands.

>>40018988
Will you fuck off already?

>>40018988
Why does she have a Royal Navy floatplane onboard?

>>40018980
And you you join the marines.Real good choice there.

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>>40018985
We wouldn't want that, would we?

>>40019045
Until it happens, or at least until she appears in regular kancolle or quite literally any kancolle fan speculation art, no.

>>40019046
Dunno, that's just the pic. I didn't make it.

What's happening here guise?

>>40019046
joint SBS and SAS infiltration.

get fucked m8

>>40019077

Jesus Christ, I remember seeing a mother and child in the aftermath of that.

It...wasn't very pretty.

>>40019044
>god fuck I swear they take out officer's common sense glands.
Actually, son, OTS is a precisely tooled machine meant to specifically sift those people who have common sense and discard them. It's much easier to find people with no common sense - or even better, a deficit of common sense - than it is to remove their common sense.

>>40019081

What's so great about that ship anyway?

>>40019044
Don't you know that an good protagonist replaces common sense with sheer willpower and determination?

We should probably find Arizona. Cause, y'know, harbor, bomber raids.

Just sayin'

>>40019089
anons trying to lead from the front.

They don't understand that us, as an officer and an admiral. Should only command from the rear. We aren't no filthy NCO.

>>40019116

No, what we need is some goddamn air cover so we don't get blown to kingdom come.

Arizona can come after that.

>>40019094
>Joint Ops by Her Majesty's Tier One troops
Oh God, imagine if those two were created in time for Bismarck.

>>40019098
>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Tokyo_kushu_1945-2.jpg

>>40019116
She's probably out diving.
Because we know that the Arizona is good at touching the bottom.

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Just leaving this here.

>>40019114
That and common sense has never been a strong point of any protagonist that Planefag writers.

The real scary part: Settle has the most common sense out of the ones seen.

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>>40019147

>>40019143
...Yeah, that was it.

Thanks faggot.

>>40019114
>Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible! That's the way the Pacific Fleet rolls!

>You can't let yourself be held back by common sense in Gensokyo!

>>40019144
0/8 sh8 joke m8

>>40019110
Its record. The commander was a fantastic man, always giving his victims a chance to survive, and even taking some of them to port. When the captain made a bad decision and the ship was trapped, he decided to have the entire crew abandon and scuttled her instead of fighting it out and dooming them because of his mistake.

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Last thread died before I could post.

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/39921207/#p39930688

>Well there goes everything I said earlier about keeping her away from pearl memories during the party. Assuming pf actually used both the personality description and not just the physical one. I seem to feel like that's not the case, however.
Taking Arizona to "her" memorial would be a totally different than bringing it up during the party. One is a private way of helping her find some closure, the other is fast way for her to experience a socially embarrassing breakdown.

>>40019116
what's the likelihood that we find Arizona cowering in a corner, shaking in fear as the memories of her sinking return.
>>40019143
They were in some form, it's just that it was easier to bomb the bismark as opposed to grand theft battleship
>>40019147
The fuck?

>>40019176
You know she actually manifested at her memorial, right?

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>>40019144
Not cool

>>40019171
>0/8 sh8 joke m8
I'm just saying.
She can stay underwater forever. She must be able to hold her breath for literally decades!

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>>40019143
>>40019094

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Have no fear, Ikazuchi is here.

>>40019110
Naziboo. Pure naziboo. Some anon wants to jack off over how "honorable" the kriegsmarine was.

>>40019180
Oh gee.
How about GRAND THEFT ABYSSAL

>>40019147
Keks

>>40019213
>Oi, Suzy!
>Kongou smacks an Ultranationalist with an 18 inch shell

>>40019209
Not sure if joking
or baiting

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>>40019209

>>40019213
If Kongo is Price, who's Soap?

>>40019180
I'm sort of expecting to find her attacking Jap ships screaming - .... . -.-- .----. .-. . / .- - / .. - / .- --. .- .. -. / ... - .-. .- -.-- .- / -.-. ..- -. -

>>40019232
And harder too, guilt trip boogaloo.

>>40019252
Haruna.

Fubuki or Hibiki is probably Nikolai.

>>40019252
Fubuki?
If in-quest, Arizona? Oh wait she's Ramirez...

>>40019176
>Having head to head conversations with multiple other anons at once, no way to tell which posts are mine.
>Getting quoted next thread anyway
I should get a name, so everyone knows when its me that's making them rage about mundane subjects.

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>>40019252

>>40019324
She's more like Gaz/Ghost here though.

>Nice. Your fruit-killing skills are remarkable.

>>40019324
Why the fuck would someone wearing a modern rig be painted up in dazzle camo?

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>>40019239
STARRING: ADMIRAL SETTLE

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>>40019252

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>>40019190
I am aware, in Planefag's source image it's "heavily suggested" that you take her to visit the Arizona memorial.

>>40019319
I knew you'd be back. You're here forever.

>>40019358
>Incoming jealous Flandre in 3... 2...

Just gonna leave this here.

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8z9VV8hp5k

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>>40019275
What's that last bit? I can read the rest, but the last two words look like a different language.

>>40019379
>Flandre
>not Arizona
if it's admiral Goto, if it's Settle then he's clear.

>>40019235
Hochseeflotte or go home, Wehrafags.

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here we goo

>>40019235
Not really the Kreigsmarine. Mostly Graf Spee, and the fact that she's really underrated. I think Bismarck and Prinz Eugen are overrated, and don't get me started on U-boats. Those things were a massive waste of the German treasury.

>>40019402
Shit I meant Kongo, not Arizona.

>>40019351
Because Shiranui's already dazzling~

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>>40019364
That image never fails to be hilarious.

>>40019423
Nanomachines?

>Head for the ranges – that's your best bet to find the carriers, and you really, really need planes in the air right now.

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>>40019351

>>40019399
STRAYA CUNT

>>40019402
Dude, the image source was from a Touhou x Kancolle doujin where the admiral settled down with Flandre, hence my reaction.

>>40019423
>How...?
>Fairies, son.

>>40019447
Well, I didn't know the source for the image, I found it on /a/.

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>>40019425
>U-boats
>massive waste of the German treasury

U wot mate?

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>>40019375
Forever is a very long time.
I'll be here as long as it takes.

There was an earlier thread where I inquired and was answered 'bullshit magic makes older ships perform as well as newer ones as long as they're similar for their timelines'

which leads me to wonder...
Over the millennia there's been thousands of ships. Obviously, the ones with no ranged capacity and no ability to harm other ships (relying on arrowmen or charging into other ships) aren't that dangerous given that their speed seems to be unchanged.

But what happens if we run into one of the many hundreds of large merchant frigates armed with cannon that have sunk to the bottom of the ocean?

Or an ancient "unstoppable" Greek ship packed with a flamethrower?

>>40019425
No, the surface fleet was a waste of money, manpower and resources. The U-boats could have been decisive, except that there were never remotely enough in the early war to actually sever British trade routes and by late 42/early 43 the Allies could counter them pretty much everywhere.

>>40019425
Fuck off naziboo.

NORTH CAROLINA FUCKING WHEN

>>40019447
Shit, kept pronouncing the C as an S in my head. Yeah, makes some more sense now, even if I'm still blanking on "straya"

>>40019456
Here anon.
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/7564

>>40019499
Straya is slang for Australia, man.

>>40019475
>Greek Fire
YES
THIS PLEASES THE FLEET

>>40019499
...Australia.
cunt

>>40019510
Thanks.

>>40019510
thanks for the link anon.

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>>40019423
all kantais are now 100% manly
wat do

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>>40019491
Fuck that, I want paranoid shark hunting waifu USS Indianapolis

>>40019538

Assign Macho Admiral to them and get them even manlier.

>>40019538
Destroy the Abyssal fleets and plunder their survivors?

>>40019538
Simple.
Tag-team them with the brohous.
Together they will conquer ALL OF EUROPE

>>40019457
They were good for fear and their reputation was blown way out of proportion. They were incredibly effective against shipping early war, and had limited success against warships, but as it went on, they became less and less effective.

>>40019555
Even better
Have Admiral Asia help in their training.
>danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1706835?pool_id=2553

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>>40019538
FUKKIN SAVED

>>40019562
>Japs
>Doing anything against anybody but chinamen
please

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You turn your purloined cart towards the ocean and gun it; cursing your luck for not having stolen a jeep instead. Your ships can put up AA fire pretty effectively from wherever they are, but actual airborne interceptors require actual planning and co-ordination. Keeping the pedal floored, you fish your smartphone out of one pocket and quickdial Arizona.

She never quite understood why they issued her one, and neither do you – you know someone, somewhere has to still make a beeper of some sort, even if its SMS based – but it proves fortuitous now. The phone only rings twice before someone answers. “MoshiMoshi?”

“Who is this!?”

“Kiyoshimo-saaaan~! Is that you, yankee admira-”

“Where are you?”

“The common room, wh-”

“Tell everyone there to get on the roof or somewhere with a clear field of view, summon your final form or whatever the fuck you do and start looking for targets. Expect high-altitude level bombers and low-flying incoming from the ocean from over the bay to the east!”

“Aaa-”

“Arizona's in charge of you all, follow her lead, she's been drilled in air defense co-ordination-”

THAT seems to hit home. “Yessir, Yankee Admiral!” You hear her excited chattering in the background as well as some terribly annoyed groaning before you end the call and dial another number. This one rings several times before someone answers.

“THIS HAD BETTER BE VERY FUCKING IMPO-”

“It's Settle.”

“The phone!?”

“STOW IT!” you snap, because you don't have time to explain why you're calling a wing commander from your cell phone instead of using the combat radio net from Yokosuka's well-protected CIC.

“You've got interceptors airborne-”

“First flight just went wheels up.”

>>40019598
Akashi is now Thunderbird 5.
Wat do
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K9rVRuehGU

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>>40019619

“WhatFUCK-” you swerve violently, climbing the curb to miss a JSDF SUV with a short-range SAM on the back as it takes the curve fast. “What squawk are they on?”

You hear him asking someone in the background, then he comes back on. “Seven-foh-war-seven-tree.”

“Copy,” you reply hastily. “My carriers will have birds in the air; do NOT engage anything with a fuzzy radar return, read me?”

“They're wh-” you hang up; already out of time for chatter. The entrance to the old torpedo range is up ahead. The cart bogs down in the sand so you bail from it, and go charging over a dune just in time to collide face-first with Akagi.

“BLHARF,” you shout eloquently as you go pitching over backwards, Akagi tumbling down the dune after you. She's caught by Kaga before she pitches over, but you slide to the bottom head-first in a fashion most inelegant.

“Admiral?” Kaga asks strangely. “What are you doing here-”

“Summon your mojo,” you instruct as Akagi pulls you upright and abashedly dusts the sand off your uniform. “Make with the bows and the spook-planes, dammit!”

“B-but-”

“Goto said-”

From a mile off you hear the distinctive FWOOSH of Stinger missiles launching and look back to see their contrails rising from the low hills of Hakozakicho island. “They're on top of us now.”

“Admiral, you should be-”

“Kaga,” you say evenly, “battle stations.”

>>40019567
>came closer to winning the was for Germany than any other weapon

Are you a troll, or just stupid?

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>>40019425
>Those things were a massive waste of the German treasury.
>nearly brought Britain to its knees with limited funding compared to the surface fleet
>objectively the most successful arm of the Kriegsmarine by a country mile
>possibly could have won the war if Germany had focused on U-Boat development when Hitler came to power in 1934
>"massive waste"

You see this, anon? This is a Type-VII U-Boat. The main arm of the U-Boat force, the one that did the most fighting throughout the war. They had them in service in 1936. That's right, 1936. But they neglected U-Boat development and construction in favor of the white elephants in the surface fleet. There was enough steel, wiring, and crew for 40 Type VIIs in each of the Bismarcks.

Imagine what the Kriegsmarine could have done if it had 80 additional modern subs in 1939.

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>>40019654

Akagi and Kaga cease their objections and close their eyes, a trancelike look coming over them. The fold their hands together, and begin their transformations. It takes longer than the ones you've seen before; a kind of shimmering light combined with an inexplicable breeze that ruffles their clothing as it moves from their head to their feet. The air over their arms shimmers and sparkles as their “decks” manifest; as well as their long bows, slung by the string over their back. They're still waiting for the bows to finish manifesting when a spine-crawling screech splits the air.

You look out over the bay to see a pair of abyssal aircraft; twisted black chitin contrasting sharply with the horrible white-toothed grin on their front – and they're aiming right at you. Within seconds they'll be on top of you.

>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.
>Other?

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>>40019665

I don't see the problem with his statement

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

NOOOPE

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019665
And where, pray tell, would you allocate those resources instead? More battleships?

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.
OH FICK JA
CORGI ZEIT

>The type 93 is better than the Avenger
Wait really? I thought it was weaker.

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019708
Actual proper funding and mechanical Computers for B-Deinst so they can actually do their job past 1942

>>40019685
>Other?
>deploy Sammy
Sammy can into AA right? or failing that she can throw corgis at enemy aircraft.

>>40019685
Are there like, any Shilka in the area or anything?

Either way
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.
Corgi swarm?
Corgi swarm.

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!
Hahaha let's try to move multiton girls so we don't all assplode because Nip carriers and av-gas.

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

The corgis don't have the time to do anything before that Abyssal slings that bomb at us.

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

Also

>Pull out our sidearm and start shooting. At the fighters. In the air.

>>40019685
>>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.
The advantage of Bow-based aircraft is that they don't need more than a few seconds to launch a full squadron of intercept fighters right at their target, given the bows are already strung when manifested.

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.
>Other
Dive for cover anyway!

>>40019685
>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

>>40019711
>Wait really? I thought it was weaker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_91_Surface-to-air_missile

The Avenger is just a Humvee with Stingers on the back. The Type 93 is just a Toyota SUV with Type 91s on the back. The type 91 is similar to the Stinger but has a more advanced guidance module. The Avenger specifically has some features the Type 93 might lack; such as slew-to-target (local air-defense is networked together, so the operator can release the controls and the Avenger can be pointed at an incoming contact detected by radar, ready to fire the instant LOS is gained.)

>>40019734
Dude, planefag just said Settle almost ran into a type 93 SAM-vee.

>>40019735
>>40019733
>Insert Black Lagoon PT Boat stunt here

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!
>>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

>>40019735
They might only have one or two .50 cals each, but there ought to be over fifty of the buggers so all they have to do is fill the air with bullets.

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019708
Aircraft and carriers?

Maybe not making pants-on-head retarded decisions about the planes, too.

>>40019736
You know that mostly happened because the crew were fucking retarded, right?

I mean, you can blame the unarmored decks and whatnot, but if they actually got some ventilation going before there was gas fumes everywhere the explosions probably wouldn't have been anywhere near the size they were, if they even happened.

>>40019671
>>40019665
I admit they were very effective, but they were expensive, and Germany was pretty much over budget as it was. The amount of U-boats they built instead of surface ships weighed quite heavily. They also were only effective for anti-ship warfare, and Germany never intended to engage enemies in the sea.

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>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!
our ships on land, their planes in the sky. time to hide like a little bitch.

>>40019685
>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019733
>deploy Sammy

Sammy deploys herself. No questions asked!

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019685
>>40019685
Order the ships to shoot their 25mm's into the ground to create an improvised sand screen to obscure line of sight.

>>40019765
Ah, so that explains it.

Would be nice to give the type 93 some IADS ability then...

>>40019802
Nonetheless, the effective usage of U-boat wolfpack tactics could have knocked out the allies before the americans joined in. Remember that Britain nearly starved to death due to the sub packs.

>>40019802
It may be somewhat results-oriented, but the U-boats definitely proved themselves to be magnitudes more effective than most of the german surface navy.

>>40019728
Dude, breaking enemy naval codes isn't going to accomplish *shit* if you don't have the capability to act on that information. I.e U-Boats.

What are your ultimate plans with all that funding for cracking naval codes, then? Send a gloating telegram to the Admiralty; "Neener neener ve ist readink you mail, Britischer"?

>>40019685
>>Flatten those flat-tops behind the dune before you all catch it!

>>40019802
>They also were only effective for anti-ship warfare

You misspelled "commerce raiding." And not interdicting enemy seaborne supply lines would have been retarded, especially considering how effective subs were in WWI.

>>40019734
>Shilka
>At Yuckysucky

U wot m8

>>40019820
No, the bigger question is, who can recall Sammy? She's like the freaking Hulk in the latest Marvel comic movies.

>>40019820
By which I meant:
>Aim the barely contained fury of Sammy and her corgi escorts at the enemy and pray for forgiveness.

>>40019734

Good question, actually - you'll find out soon enough!

>>40019850

CONVOYS, MOTHERFUCKER

>>40019869
I suppose he meant AAA.

Like the type 87 Guntank in Japan's case.

>>40019863
Also, American sub murdered Japanese commerce too. Arguably more effective than the U-boats had been in some fashions.

>>40019802
You can hit coastal facilities with subs, even older ones. There's a lot to be said for shutting down docks.

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>>40019700
>>40019708
>>40019802
In 1941-42 the U-boat came close to breaking the allied war effort. There were times when Germany was sinking freighters faster than the US could build them, driving Britain to the brink of starvation.

And planefag, I'm disappointed in you for not knowing this.

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>>40019654

>>40019830
As I said, they were very good against shipping, and did their job there well, but Germany was never going to win a war in the seas. They could have allocated a portion of the resources they spent on subs to the Luftwaffe, so they could more effectively fight Britain's air force and possibly beat them. Granted they should also have allocated less resources into rockets that can miss entire countries. They didn't exactly make the best set of decisions.

>>40019884

In large part to Japan being so retarded at ASW that it boggles imagination. They didn't even go to a convoy system till 1943 or so.

>>40019802

Because sinking millions of tons of food, ammunition, vehicles, fuel, raw resources, and medical supplies is totally a waste amirite?

>>40019802
Then scrap their plans to build a surface battlefleet and spend the money on U-Boats. During the world wars the Germans were hands-down the best submariners in the world, and again during both world wars it took a lot of pushing to get them to actually USE those skills.

And of course they built more U-Boats than surface ships. The surface elements of the Kriegsmarine proved themselves largely useless by 1942. Sure, they sank a couple of big-name targets like Glorious and Hood, but they never challenged the Royal Navy's dominance while doing so.

>>40019884
The Americans murdered anything the Japs had that was floating in WWII.

>>40019828
Actually brings up the interesting point that we aren't sure whether or not these ships actually have secondary batteries. They aren't visible on the outfits in the grand majority of cases, anyway.
>>40019820
So do they?

>>40019790
Carriers wouldn't accomplish shit in Germany's strategic situation. Seriously, with no battlefleetof appreciable size they'd accomplish little.

More aircraft wasn't a problem so much as running out of well trained pilots.

>>40019685
...They're in ship-mode, so can we even budge them right now?

>They have to get their planes spotted if they're going to get anything airborne at all – USE THE WHISTLE.

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>>40019894
>And planefag, I'm disappointed in you for not knowing this.

Are you fucking retarded? I was criticizing someone who was calling someone else retarded for denying the exact fact you just quoted. Check yourself, faggot.

>>40019897
>flying that low in broad daylight

faggot had it coming

>>40019850
The nazis had a huge problem in that above the tactical level intelligence was always shit which lead them to completely fuckretarded decisions. Giving their most effective codebreakers better tools would have had more effect than just throwing more weapon systems at the problem

>>40019734
Well there should be ships at the base, so maybe there are Phalanx systems or something?

>>40019901

Due to their Mahanian doctrine they built a very surface-heavy fleet, which mean they allocated shit all resources to ASW.

The only reason the US didn't win a year or so earlier was because US Ordnance were a bunch of mouthbreathing retards.

>>40019900
>They could have allocated a portion of the resources they spent on subs to the Luftwaffe, so they could more effectively fight Britain's air force and possibly beat them.
Or they could actually rotate their aces instead of flying them until they fell out of the sky.

also vote called toot toot HIT THE DECK

>>40019905

Daily reminder that The Hood was a victim of Britain's retarded ammo handling procedures.

If there was a Hood shipgirl, she'd take out Cameron and Clegg so hard.

>>40019900
>Kriegsmarine
>Dolling out dosh for the Luftwaffe ever

Inter-service rivalry though.
>>40019935
>N'oo'p Quest never ever

>>40019897
>B2
>Flying that low
That pilot deserves everything he got and more.

>>40019960
Hitting the deck seems to be the bounce of this quest.

>>40019964

Hitler was fucking retarded. 'Nuff said.

>>40019619
>“Arizona's in charge of you all, follow her lead, she's been drilled in air defense co-ordination-”

Yes, she knows exactly what to do when attacked by aerial bombers.

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>Friend is running a mutants and masterminds game
>He's letting me play a shipslut
>The other players have no idea

>>40019879

And if you have no means to actually engage those convoys it doesn't mean shit.

The original premise i'm railing against was to trabsfer the U-boat funding completely, remember.

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>>40019900
>As I said, they were very good against shipping, and did their job there well, but Germany was never going to win a war in the seas

THEY FUCKING COULD HAVE IF THEY HAD HAD MORE U-BOATS IN 1940-1942

>>40019980
well what goes up...

>>40019983
Yeah. But you have to remember that Goering ABHORRED the kriegsmarine.

So much that one of the alleged reasons why the german carrier program did not push through is because he couldn't stand any other service using planes.

>>40019999
SAMMY OR BUST

>>40019964
>>40019957
>>40019983
So we all agree on one thing... In that Germany was dealt a pretty good hand, but made a lot of mistakes in how they played it.

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>>40019983
How about everyone that was anyone in charge of anything was retarded.

>>40019983
Hitler fought in the trenches during WW1. Then became a politician. Politics ruins even the best of grunts.

>>40019900
The luftwaffe was never going to kick britain out of the war. The Krigsmarine came very close.

>>40019980
We like to get down, baby.

>>40019999
Which shipslut?

>>40019935
>I was criticizing someone who was calling someone else retarded for denying the exact fact you just quoted.

He was being retarded. U-boats were Germany's greatest weapon, he seems to think they were just some propaganda device. If you want to defend him on this I ask again: are you a troll, or just stupid?

>>40020033
Rommel and a few other solders were competent.

It's just a shame that there were little to none of theme in high command.

>>40020033
You gotta hand it to the guys behind the synthetic oils though, they had a good thing going.

>>40019935
>>40019967
Ah, to be fair, that whole place was expected to be empty of humans due to massive amount of radiation. that and the anime/manga failed to do his research about that plane.

>>40019937
Not at the expense of the only effective arm of the fucking navy it won't.

Allocate those resources from the fucking battlefleet and you'd have a point.

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>mfw we're gonna get Kisaragi'd

>>40020060
READING
COMPREHENSION

>>40020066
Still, it makes me fucking annoyed, If your going to include something, then you should make sure that you do it right.

>>40020023
>SAMMY OR BUST
>>40020055
Na, not a straight expy of any of these girls, more of 'nonspecific American Battleship'.
Though I basically stole Arizona's art for her appearance. And she's mute but can communicate by radio.
It's only power level 2 to start so it's gonna take some time to get everything properly working right.

>>40020082
Bruh
BRUH
There was no other way
Whichever option we chose, we're still gonna see some deep shit

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>>40020060
What the fuck

Are you even smoking

PF was AGREEING with you you moronic twat

Fix your reading comprehension

>>40020111
>OH GOD MY SILVERSIDES.gif

>>40020109
Communicating with the other players in morse will be brilliant!

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>>40019980
falling over is our super power

>>40020025
Germany was dealt a shit hand, played the game amazingly while everyone else didn't understand that the rules had changed, and then they made a few mistakes and the fact that they were totally outclassed in production caught up with them.

>>40020066
Coppelion is one of the most retarded things I've read.

>>40020098
>>40020118
Not if it means reallocating resources from the U-boats.

>>40020130
I'm not -that- obstructionist, haha

>>40020108
Everyone called out the creator of that manga just for that! It was rather amusing when I heard about it.

>>40020109
Can't do much about it from here, but can't complain much either. Looks like Arizona is your source, so...Do 'er proud.

>>40020044
Alright, alright, U-boat shaming anon here, I admit I was wrong about them. I even looked it up before posting at the start because I didn't want to get it wrong and sound like an idiot, but apparently that didn't work. Yes, they were very effective and could have made Britain surrender.

>>40020060
As for you, I don't think they were just a propaganda device. They were similar to tigers in that they were effective, but their effectiveness was blown way out of proportion by their enemies.

>>40020149
It is, I agree. But taking into account that big ass melt down they have over there already, I can't blame them really.

>>40020184
>They were similar to tigers in that they were effective, but their effectiveness was blown way out of proportion by their enemies.

Yeah, as bad as the U-Boat actually was, it was even worse in popular comprehension of it. And they were right to be scared.

still writing wait warmly faggots are preparing

>>40020109
Arizona's initial appearance seemed to be more of a cowboy motif
>Standing next to Corporal Hate is the other worrisome member of your unit – the silent one. The collar of her duster is turned up high, and her face is turned away from you. Beneath her coat you can hear the slight creak of gun leather – she goes nowhere without arms, now.
Later on Planefag seemed to switch to the Pacific art
>With Arizona. The slender auburn-haired girl, blank-faced, cold eyed and stiff-shouldered, her old Navy dress uniform hat tipped down over her eyes, collar of the old-fashioned Navy peacoat turned up.

>>40020151
...PF isn't the one saying that you cockhead

Go back and actually read his posts

>>40020033

No, For all intents, Germany's generals actually had their heads screwed on right. Mostly.

They were hamstrung by Hitler, who was a fucktard through and through.

>>40020137
I think you misunderstood me, I meant that they started the war very well, then they took what they had and went all in when someone else had a slightly better hand. So yeah, we said the same thing, I was just less clear.

>>40020207
>Faggots are preparing
RED WIZARD WHEN YOU TEASE

>>40020137
The first mistake was allying with the Elevens on the other side of Russia. And kicking in Norway's door for that delicious coal when Jerry could have allied with them. Tens of thousands of Vikings served in Hitler's armies against the commies. Best Fuhrer with a Varangian Guard would have been GOAT.

>>40020118
>>40020098
He agrees that U-boats were a war winning weapon, yet criticizes me for calling that other anon a retard when he says that Germany would have been better off dismantling the whole fleet for scarp iron.

Looking again, I think planefag jumped into the conversation without reading the previous posts. If he just wanted to say that Uboats lost their effectiveness from 1943 onward I'd agree with him.

>>40020208
Maybe Arizona feels most comfortable flying when dressed in a cowboy motif?

>>40020184
>They were similar to tigers in that they were effective, but their effectiveness was blown way out of proportion by their enemies.
Tigers were never effective.
They were powerful, sure. But they never were effective.

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Remove abyssals from the premises

>>40020239
>Elevens
Tch, filthy Britannian scum

>>40020184
>As for you, I don't think they were just a propaganda device. They were similar to tigers in that they were effective, but their effectiveness was blown way out of proportion by their enemies.

That's not a bug, that's a feature. If the U-Boat menace is so overblown that ships are refusing to leave port unless they have heavy escort (which takes time to get to those ports, and there is never enough escorts), you've taken them out of the war just as completely as sinking them.

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>>40020208

>>40020208
He switched to the pacific art early enough that it makes little difference, but good for noticing that. I thought there was something fishy in my memories about her description.

Pretty sure he just didn't know about it when the quest started, and switched after the art was posted in the real early threads.

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>>40020243
or, here's an idea

just

just a thought

but maybe his choice of reaction image implies that one would have to be high as a fucking kite to think that u-boats weren't an effective weapon

>>40020260
8492/10
Also
Heil Belka

>>40020247
>They were powerful, sure. But they never were effective.

Okay that I can't agree with. Look at the difference between how many were knocked out, and how many enemies they rendered combat ineffective. Check numbers on the Russian front for really noticeable differences. they could done even more, but the retreat Prevented them from retrieving knocked out vehicles.

>>40020314
Wrong quest friend. ACQ was a few days back.

>>40020331
As long as there is clay that needs returning, there shall Belka be

>>40020283
Probably, yeah. And after that the art got posted often enough that it overrode the 'official' description in the public mind.

I wonder if he didn't choose that to balance out Hornet, a 'cowboys and indians' thing.

>>40020208
>>40020273
Was >>40020283
Besides, we seem to have kept some of the cowboy motif anyway, despite him failing to mention her never being unarmed in the more recent threads when she becomes more prominent. I figure that while she's never truly unarmed because magic shipgrill, it still woulda been nice to remember she actually kept the sidearms anyway.

Which suddenly sounds stupid coming from the anon who agreed last thread that it would be a good idea to upgrade the guns she already had. Strongly disappoint in myself for not letting that sink in.

>>40020266
Well, it's true in a sense. Hitler only declared war on the burgers do to being in an alliance with the nips. If he had not allied with grorious nopantsu, then Roosevelt would still be waging piracy on German shipping and not using Hitler's ashes as some voodoo magic to cure his polio.

>>40020044
Apparently (because I can't find the actual study, only articles about the study), Britain could have survived just on locally sourced food if it had to, without much ill effect. Starvation might not have occurred

Of course, this is disregarding the fact that a country requires actual war materials as well, and that would pretty much knock them out anyway.

>>40020360
Now there's a thought.

>>40020243
He called you a retard because you initially called him out for not criticising aforementioned fucktard, WHEN HE ACTUALLY WAS.

>>40020243
>he says that Germany would have been better off dismantling the whole fleet for scarp iron.

I never meant that at all. I think you really do have a problem reading. I was implying that they should not have built as many due to cost. Never once did I say they should disable the WHOLE U-boat fleet.

I wonder what would happen if the Kriegsmarine decided to focus on U-boats.


Would they have discovered SLBM's too?

>>40020469
It's possible, but they would have been early missiles armed with either HE or Incendiary warheads, good for terror missions but not for anything more.

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You charge up the dune - three painfully slow, slogging steps through the sand – and hurl yourself into Akagi. Her mojo dissipates as she emits a squeak of surprise, and then she goes flying back into Kaga. All three of you domino off the top of the dune and slide down the side with you lying atop. A heartbeat later you hear the thunder of heavy guns, and the horrible hissing snap-crack of bullets slicing the air near your head. Sand rains down upon you as the shells explode in the dune behind you, then the horrible rasping racket of the abyssal aircraft tear by overhead, close enough for their... *something*-wash to beat down on your clothes and thrash the dune-grass wildly.

“Admiral, let me-”

“STAY DOWN!” you roar. It's hard to know how anything works with abyssals; especially matters of scale. A cannon shell might glance off these girls like they're full-sized carriers – or it could blow their torso off their legs, like they're girls. As you snatch the little dog whistle off the chain around your neck and stick it in your mouth, you reflect on the only three facts you're sure of:

1. You're replaceable. The ships are not.
2. Any AP munition is fuzed in expectation of direct contact with the armor to be penetrated; any intermediate barrier that sets the fuze off early defeats the weapon.
3. If some of the corgis aren't fucking around on the beach this very instant, you're all dead anyway.

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>>40020515
OH MY GOD ARE WE MAKING A CORGI SHIELD

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>>40020515
>3. If some of the corgis aren't fucking around on the beach this very instant, you're all dead anyway.
corgis are always fucking around on the beach.

>>40020549
Body munitions with less valuable craft to save the more valuable craft. It's callous but makes sense.

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>>40020515

>>40020509
I figured Donitz or whoever was in-charge of marine R&D would take an interest in the V project, to be honest. Like a Regulus-esque setup on a type IX.

>>40020515
>*something*-wash
They're running on neuroi-fuel, obviously.

>>40020549
We're making a shield with our body and hoping that the corgis get here fast.

>>40020322
>but the retreat Prevented them from retrieving knocked out vehicles.
That and the complete lack of spare parts.

But do you really think the Tiger was worth it over re-engineering the Panther's final drive and just making more of them?

I mean I get the whole 88 stronk hype. But the time and effort that Germany sunk into the Tiger was entirely disproportionate compared to how many they produced and its combat record.

Fuck, the allies didn't even HAVE a heavy tank and they did just fine rekking the germans.

>>40020549
Oh damn, this might hurt my feels

>>40020583
>>40020549
So what I said, but with more techy-logic-sciencey stuff? I think CORGI SHIELD sounds better.

>>40020549
Hate might like it if we get some of the Corgis dead for him, the shipsluts might take it the wrong way.

"He's willing to use us to shield himself without caring for a ship's well-being... He doesn't believe we're alive... "

>>40020606
I'm interested to find out how the Tigergruppen would perform if they had more efficient parts.

Like, say, a 60's era drivetrain.

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>>40020515

You blow and blow and blow, hearing only the faint rush of air through the device and the rasping sound of abyssal fighter-bombers circling around for another attack. You pray that the corgis are nearby – and you're answered by the distant howl of their small voices rising in a long hunting howl. But they sound rather distant, and their guns are strictly short-range. You watch the abyssal finishing a gradual turn a ways south-west down the beach, intending to make a strafing run parallel to the protection of the dunes. The rushing of air through the silent whistle; the hammering of your heart in your ears, even the gentle, innocuous lapping of the ocean waves – these will be the last thing you hear as you watch the abyssals guns begin flashing. You press down on the girls, in case they get any stupid ideas about standing up and getting whacked – and wait for the sound that will signify your survival; the dual-fifties of PT boats roaring up the coast.

Instead, your ears are drowned by the thunder of double-wasp radials.

>>40020669
>double-wasp radial
IT'S YOUNG!!!!

>Dat image
I laugh every time I see that on Danbooru.

>>40020651
Real fucking hard to make that assumption when we're the second layer around Akagi and Kaga.

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>>40020669
FUCK YES

>>40020669
>double wasp radials

Hornet motherfuckers. Surprise b-25s

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>>40020669
>Double wasp radials
could it be?

>>40020696
Fair point, but still killing Corgis might be a bad idea.

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>>40020669
>Instead, your ears are drowned by the thunder of double-wasp radials.

>>40020669
>double-wasp radials
YOUNG TO THE RESCUE

>>40020651
>>40020630
>>40020609
God damnit, people
>You're replaceable. The ships are not.
A human death isn't as big a setback as a shipgirl death
>any intermediate barrier that sets the fuze off early defeats the weapon.
Such as a human body
>If some of the corgis aren't fucking around on the beach this very instant, you're all dead anyway.
If we don't get some backup right now they'll have more than enough time to go through our body, and Akagi's, and Kaga's.

>>40020726
Yep

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>>40020669
>double-wasp radials
Super-turbocharged?

>>40020724
>>40020721
>>40020716
Calling it now
>PLANEFAG RAN INTO A PLOT HOLE IN SWQ
>HE DECIDED TO TURN YOUNG INTO A PSEUDO-PLANE SPIRIT

>>40020606
>Fuck, the allies didn't even HAVE a heavy tank and they did just fine rekking the germans.

Well, allied strategy can best be summed up in the wise words of zap brannigan. "You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown."

So yeah... They did beat a lot of Tigers. Sort of.

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IT IS TIME!

Guys, remember a few threads back when some anons were discussing the possibility of Settle's Arleigh Burke comming back as a ship-girl, and possibly being Yandere?

If I remeber correctly there was a few comments about her possibly showing up during a base assault (like the type we are in now).

Guys. What if she shows up right now? when we are on top of some ship-sluts

>>40020669
>Instead, your ears are drowned by the thunder of double-wasp radials.
Hellcats or Corsairs.

>>40020693
WHAT? FAIRY YOUNG IS COMING TO THE RESCUE?

>>40020750
Allied strategy wasn't even remotely like that.

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>>40020749
Young is witch Nao?

>mfw imagining Young as P-61 Witch

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>>40020789
>double
>single engined planes

>>40020750
Don't bring that Fury bullshit in here. Or Deathtrap or wherever you read it.
The 76mm Sherman could pen the fucking Tiger from the front at a reasonable distance.

>>40020770
>Happy merchant face.webm

>>40020791
>Fairy Young
I need a drawfag to get this done. Yesterday.

Why do people think it's a Widow? It's two Wildcats blowing their wad.

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>>40020766

>>40020799
Be quiet, less you break his History-channel infused brain.

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Two dark shapes roar by overhead, your sternum vibrating with the noise. You flinch badly as something hits you; every muscle in your body locking up tight as if they could repel bullets; but its only bright shining brass raining upon you, kicking up little puffs of sand as they hit the beach. It takes you a minute to register the sound of gunfire through ringing ears and the bright flashes of AP-I as they strike the abyssal fighters in the nose. One peels away; too late to avoid spinning out of control and plunging into the bay with a huge WHOOMPH! of spray. The other one catches a round to the fuel tank and explodes in mid-air; the engine (!) still spinning in the direction of torque as the chitinous body behind it vanishes in orange flame and black debris. Your saviors pull away in a gentle chandelle, the noon light gleaming on the bright white stars painted on their blue wings.

>>40020819
Also the Firefly anon.
MUH 17 POUNDER

>>40020818
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800_Double_Wasp
Two-row radial engine. (two rows of 9 cylinders)

>>40020799
>allied strategy

Only the Russians you mean.

>>40020818
Yeah.
They're called Double Wasps.

>>40020819
and the 75mm could kill it from the side at a decent distance as well.