It's the Marvel 616 universe...

>>40820964
Kek
Warhammer Fantasy here. He's got the bald, Sigmarite look down well enough.

Maybe. Could go either way.

>>40820953
I'm glad my last setting wasn't a bake sale.

>>40820953
It's Exalted's Creation, so I'm going to say he won't be able to take over anything bigger than a small town.

>>40820953
Isle of dread

I dunno... depends on who he runs into

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Deathwatch.... He can't win

>>40820953
Fallout PnP. Not sure how he'd do.

>>40820953
>Pale-faced lex luthor

>>40821508
While no one was looking, Watch-Captain Luthor stole forty K's.
That's as many as four tens.
And that's horrible.

>>40820953
>Video Game: King of Fighters 1999
>PnP: Shadow Run
...he'd have his work cut out for him in Shadow Run. but I'm not so sure how things would go in KoF, maybe he'd be okay. On the other hand, everyone and everything else would have some form of super-martial arts.

>>40821635
He'll just use his Injustice robot suit.

>>40821548
greek luthor best luthor

>>40820953
Soul Reaver 2.
Well aslong as he doesn't aquire some kind of powerful magic he won't be doing much.
Maybe he could invent some weapons for the human cities and create a resistence force

>>40820953
Generic fantasy.
Well, not as much tech to hide behind, because any tech at all stands out.

Honestly, though, he'd probably do a better job than the current ruler. At least Lex understands socioeconomics and political theory.

The rulers of most countries tend to be exceedingly powerful like True Fae or dragons, so it'd be tough, but possible if he embraced magitech.

>>40820953
It's a grimdark cluster fuck of moral questioning & stress.
He will die, so will thousands of others.

>>40820953
Serenity RPG. Yeah, he'd do just fine.

>>40820953
Good luck, last setting we played was some Eastern inspired schlock being invaded by some multiversal eldritch horror that we tried to seal off from our realm with the help of the four directional gods.

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>>40821457
...nigger, do you fucking know how smart Lex Luthor is? If given the chance, he can bring some bronze era farming village into a golden age utopia, with genetically engineered supersoldiers as strong as the big blue boy scout himself. He would be a force to be reckoned with in Creation, even if he doesn't exalt based on just how fucking ridiculously smart he is.

Seriously, yhe Celestial Incarna would fight tooth and nail just to exalt this motherfucker, who is as intelligent a mortal as any Exalted is in their prime, that's how fucking stupid smart this motherfucker is. The minute the Loom sees him, it'll be like 'shittttt, put a shard in this motherfucker'

Then all bets are off. His natural intelligence would be grossly boosted by the power of his Exaltation, to the point that his thinking process just might be as alien as the Primordials themselves. Creation would be either blessed by his intelligence, or further damned.

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>>40820953
>Lex Luthor
I never fucking understood this shit. Superman is the iconic superhero. He's strong enough to move earth out of its orbit, has an intelligence that can be described as superhuman, is fast enough to go toe to toe with the Flash, whose entire schtick is being fast... Superman kind of makes him redundant. He makes the entire Justice League redundant actually. Anyway, who is the ultimate rival of this supreme being of power? Some eldritch horror? A demigod?

No, a fucking businessman from earth. His archnemesis is effectively an evil Bill Gates. How does this shit even work?

>>40823847
Well, because he's smarter then Superman who as you said was already supernaturally smart. Lex's whole thing is that he is the fruition of mankind's potential on it's own. He is perhaps the smartest man on the planet, smarter then fucking Batman of all people.

With that intelligence comes narcissism and racial pride, and it burns him that there's someone who has such powers and is celebrated by the populace even though he's an alien. With his intelligence, he does everything to make Superman's life fucking miserable, and for someone who isn't superstrong or superfast he's damn good at it.

>>40823448
>His natural intelligence would be grossly boosted by the power of his Exaltation, to the point that his thinking process just might be as alien as the Primordials themselves.
The only reason this doesn't happen with some of the sig characters is that it doesn't fit the "style" of the game. There's even a blurb in the intro section of DotFA that gives that as the reason.

>>40823847
If DBZ had anything going for it, it was probably that the was consistent.

>>40823847

I've always figured that Luthor could live with Superman if he was self-interested or power hungry in some way. If he was playing the game as Luthor understands it.

What Luthor cannot accept is that Superman is better than him morally. Luthors hatred of Superman is rationalization of the simple fact that he feels inferior when he compares himself to Supes, and that's the one thing Luthor cannot fucking deal with.

Adventure Capitalist
Ughhh...
>Mercy! Get the Limo ready. We're going to visit our 3,000 owned Hockey Teams for an hourly review, and then purchase 30 more oil rigs
>And tell those damn Chinese kids to squeeze lemons faster!

>>40820953
Shadowrun. He succeeds splendidly.

>>40824416
That motherfucker could make a deal with a dragon and come out on top.

>Silent Hill

Yeah, good luck with that.

>>40824656
What makes you think he isn't already there?
Every dragon pays a tax for the luxury of being in absolute control of their mega-corporations. Luthor can sieze these Corperations whenever he feels like it, but considers the dragons and their rivalries an excellent stabalizer.

>>40824726
Oh boy, in this instance he'd be boned. His narcissism and jealousy issues just might consume as he's chased by faceless Bizzaros or some shit

>a world consisting entirely of B-horror movie locations, situations and tropes.
If he could figure out how the hell the world worked, then maybe. Assuming he doesn't walk into some deathtrap that clearly wasn't there in the last shot.

>>40824726
>>40824794
He'd be haunted by Supermen with their skin replaced by textures of the surface of the sun, all the people either frozen in time or normal people who can't understand what he's saying as he speaks and all that comes out as white noise.

He'd be trapped in a Tzeentch style labyrinth that keeps changing in ways he can't predict, as a column of flame follows him. Buildings would appear small or made of glass, his own reflection warped.

>>40824941
Conceptually, Silent Hill is a mixture of a normal lakeside town mixed with your own inhibitios, neuroses and fears manifested in some way that matches the environment. Unfortunately the idea hasn't been executed well in over a decade and now likely never will

>>40824726
he gets some tin cans and string and turns them into a warp portal to escape, or a dimensional stabilizer to get rid of silent hill's weird shit aura.

>>40820953
Technically that's Underground.

Luthor attempts to situate himself into the Committee, but ends up in an unnecessarily complicated battle of wits with Mr. Sin that lasts until they're both dead.

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>>40823448
>Loom tries to Exalt Luthor
>Luthor says no
>Still dominates creation and sets himself up as Reagent to the missing Empress.

>>40825141
Why would Luthor ever say no? He actively tries to augment himself all the damn time or try and steal Superman's powers. If anything he'd relish the opportunity at becoming supernaturally endowed as he finds a way to Yushan, kills, tricks or beats the Incarna and win the Games of Divinity.

>>40820953
>tfw the last setting I played was in the world of atlas shrugged

The ones in Gault's gulf would try to talk him out of it, at least intell the world figures out shit they where trying to.
Then it's full steam ahead!

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>>40820953
Last game played is ASoIaF TTRPG

Lex is basically Tyrion without deformities, can fight, and has modern knowledge. However, his name doesn't mean anything in Westeros.

I could see him dominating multiple free cities very quickly and building an army that way.

>"Dragons, White Walkers, Priests? Do you know who I am? In my homelands, I fought what can only be described as living gods, and I'm still standing today. You backwards neanderthals will be dragged into the light, kicking and screaming if need be. House Luthor is not going simply 'survive the winter,' I will personally wipe the inhuman scum off the face of your backwater little continent."

>>40824656
He is to dragons as dragons are to us.

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>>40820953
>Morrowind, Vvardenfell specifically
Horrible failure, he'd be a pile of ash as soon as he tries anything.

>>40825230
Let me put it this way. Luther loves humanity and him being a part of it.
He only changes himself to get rid of superman.

He sees superman as the worst thing that can exist for humanity, a perfect savior. Every time superman saves the day humanity starts to depend on them selves less and on superman more.

Why fight that alien army when superman will do it?
It's that fight to not only survive but to also dominate that lex loves about humanity, and it's that aspect of them that superman destroys every time he saves the day.

Lex sees superman as an overprotective parent. Sheltering the world from all. But when shelters how can we grow?

>>40825579
Ignoring that Exalted are technically human and Lex couldn't tell the Loom to fuck off even if he wanted, he's also a hypocrite. He himself wants the world under his yoke to usher a golden era, he just wants to be the one to do it and not an alien. Moreover, if anything he'd figure out a way to manufacture Exalted shards
from the gods' dead carcasses
and give them to humanity while ruling over them in Yushan

>>40825741
He dosent want to rule the world, far from it. He is willing to do it yes, but his deal is that he wants humanity to grow. To be like him, think of him a bit like the emperor from 40k. He wants humanity to have the freedoms and hardships to grow and be made better for it.

>>40826010
I think you underestimating how egotistical Lex is man. He wants to usher humanity to greatness, but he believes himself the only one capable of doing that and if there is a competitor his shift focuses. He may hate Supes because in part he is holding humanity back, but another part hates him for being better. It's why he's a villian in the first place, not just because he's just ideologically opposed to Supes

>>40823847
>I never fucking understood this shit.
Because you're fucking retarded, it's very simple.

Superman wants to make a better world and his biggest obstacle isn't aliens or robots, it's mankind's own innate flaws. Lex is a man who could single handidly push Earth into a golden age, but he's the poster child for all seven sins.

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>>40825741
>Ignoring that Exalted are technically human
It's likely that Lex wouldn't see it that way, especially if it were during act1 of whatever story arc he's in.
>and Lex couldn't tell the Loom to fuck off even if he wanted
If Batman can willpower a yellow-lantern ring from chosing himself, Lex can will an Exaltation off of himself. Hell, Abyssal and Infernal Exaltations already require the concent of the recipient, which makes it plausable that a SUFFICIENTLY badass legendary human (like Lex) could theoretically shake it off.
>he's also a hypocrite
Oh absolutely, that's the beauty of Lex. When written correctly, he's a modern-day Lucifer circa Paradise Lost. If you've got a good writer behind the steering wheel, he seduces the reader into rooting for him with his pleasing-to-the-human-spirit rhetoric and philosophy, and just when the reader is all on board saying "yeah, fuck superman, who the hell does that Alien think he is, imposing his will on a younger species; burn the xenos," the claws come out, the facade fades, and he's just petty, greedy, and jealous, and hateful. By being seduced by his ideas, then seeing his lies for what they really are, the reader learns about their own darker side. It's what makes him such a pleasing villain from a storytelling standpoint.

So, basically, if it were the first or second act, he'd reject the Exaltation, but only because he was secretly planning to steal an even more powerful hidden prototype exaltation that was never actually used from the loom itself.

>>40823847
>>40823847
>He makes the entire Justice League redundant actually. Anyway, who is the ultimate rival of this supreme being of power? Some eldritch horror? A demigod?
>No, a fucking businessman from earth. His archnemesis is effectively an evil Bill Gates. How does this shit even work?
That's basically the point. It's a seductive idea to ostracized 14 year-olds, and it's a seductive idea to the ostracized 14 year-old in all of us. There's something cathartic about being seduced by a villain only to have him turn around and be a totally evil hypicrite. It helps expunge that dark side of yourself. Read some Aristotle then read Paradise Lost. You'll get the same effect.

>>40826392
I think, given his intelligence, he'd eventually manufacture shards or some equivalent and endow humanity with them since essence is a natural part of Creation's cosmology. I mean, he already dabbles in bioengineering, I could see him justifying turning humanity into superhumans as a natural evolution of humanity. He just wouldn't settle on doing it through beings that consider themselves a higher authority

>>40826392
>he has the power to shake it off

Yes, but if he's stupid intelligent he'd probably understand eventually the science of Creation and essence abd take advantage of it.

At the end of the day pure essence is just as much a resource as anything else
and I see him having no qualms with using it if he thought in those terms.

>>40820953
He'd probably mange it handily.

I just hope he doesn't fall the worse parts of his personality.
Luthor's "good" traits are practically the Silver Ladder incarnate.

Hell, I might even join him.

>>40826530
>I think, given his intelligence, he'd eventually manufacture shards or some equivalent and endow humanity with them since essence is a natural part of Creation's cosmology.
That's the thing, though, he wouldn't. He definately COULD, and he would absolutely say he was going to as a part of his populist rise to power. Hell, he would probably actually do it to a few loyal minions as "proof of concept," but when the chips are down, and the magitech-factories have finished mass-producing essence-shards, he's going to use them all on himself, and create a new form of exaltation that's beyond Solar or Sidereal, that only HE has access to. That's how Act3 Lex works. He talks about defending the common man, but at the end of the day, he's just a selfish hateful man.

>>40826392
>>40826604
Just saw what you wrote at the end, that's what I get for skimming. He'd totally reject Exaltation and invent a way to become even more powerful then base exaltation and keep it to himself

>>40826677
What a dick... I kind of want that to happen in my game, with my Circle is scrambling to expose Lex to the Incarna or any who would listen to stop him before he becomes Exalted of all or some shit

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>>40820953
How do we stat lex luthor?

>>40826677
Yep. Way to nail Lex. He once gave hundreds of people superpowers only to spitefully turn them off because he found out he was genetically incompatible with the process and wanted to be a dick. Hundreds of people died, not to mention the people those people were rescuing, and it amused him.

Lex is an asshole. He doesn't want to empower humanity, he wants them to be dependent on him.

>>40826860
You don't.
He's a background threat.

If you stat it, it will die.

>>40826860
this guy>>40826978 is right. Lex doesn't work in a "everything has all the stats" system. He's a plot-force, and if you want a plot-force+hyper-planning level BBEG, you basically need to keep everything except what he's doing RIGHT now in a quantum wave state to be able to collapse it into exactly what the party wasn't expecting. That is, unless, you're as good at planning as Lex is (protip: you aren't.)

>>40826909
Lex craves Superman's power and his role as the savior of humanity, but fundamentally cannot understand his motivations or personality.

>>40825032
>Unfortunately the idea hasn't been executed well in over a decade and now likely never will
RIP P.T.
RIP Kojima
RIP Konami's soul

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>>40820964

Playing 2 settings at once at the moment.
>DBZ setting where everything except Saiyans don't exist.
There would be no point in Lex being there, but the Saiyan's are a power-driven aristocracy where Elites regularly bully those without power. If he weren't beaten to death because of his lack of strength, and instead learned how to use ki, he would probably eventually become a real threat and create something akin to the PTO, but more racially "pure". Either he would thrive or die immediately.

>Post Tailed Beast Apocalypse Naruto
Provided he avoided ninja magic and shit he would probably be a recognized non-combatant, possibly a national leader. He could most likely usher in a golden age of technological advancement, as well as try to purge a Tailed Beast Spawn menace (Spawns are any creature infected by leaked Beast chakra. Not considered human, even if biologically human.) Would be screwed in the combat aspect.

>>40825579
>>40826010
At the same time, Luthor is pretty transhumanist. I mean, he did the whole Braniac thing to himself in some incarnations, and he's all about the power armour. You also seem to buy into the sort of "savior of humanity" angle that Luthor himself sells.

A lot of comics make it very clear that Luthor is holding humanity back. He does want to rule the world. He wants praise. He wants adoration.
I mean, listen to how he's used in Max Landis' Death and Return of Superman pitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWMc-EdDRY

Lex is a douche.

>>40826616
I was going to say he'd be a Seer. But at the same time his whole "fuck you superhumans" schtick might work better as a Hunter.

>>40826978
>>40827078
If you don't stat it, it'll still die.

>>40827257
But Ki and chakra are both things that anyone can do if they train. Lex would dominate those, the same way Batman a can hold his breath for ten minute or do super judo pressure points.

>>40826677
Thing is, would he remain that way if juiced himself on essence or would he pull an All Star Superman and weep as he realizes all the powers of his mega exaltation make him wholly aware of how flawed and selfish he was?

>>40820953
5e.

I would watch this so hard.

>>40827257
This post is pretty weeaboo.

...that said, a DC anime would be intriguing.

>>40826833
That sounds like a pretty fun Exalted story. I might not make it LITERALLY lex... but then again, maybe it is lol. Could also be some heroic mortal who was secretly raised by a Sidereal who (foolishly) took pity on him and full-on moses raised him in Yu-Shan, only to throw him out. Then again, part of the charm of Lex is that he's literally JUST a human. Maybe just an extremely strong Heroic Mortal who for reasons unexplained has actually discovered how fate/essence really works.

Eh, it's 40k

I guess he could become a champion of Tzeentch and launch a black crusade.

>>40827453
OP said SETTING not SYSTEM. I mean, I guess we can extrapolate that you're playing in he standard Great-Wheel generic D&D setting, but still, a system is not a setting.

>>40827815
That was kind of what I was thinking, the Lex-expy basically being a regular human born in the Blessed Isles or Satrapy who for whatever reason was gifted with practically superhuman intellect. From there, he became politcally important, maybe even becoming an agent of the All-Seeing Eye or a member of the Immaculate Order. Eventually he learns to channel essence, and shit goes down hill from there as he studies and researches ways to pass a human's regular limits with essence.

>>40827931
He sees the newly returned Solars for what they are, but absolutely hates them for it, and plays along with the universal fear/hatred of them by creating essence-empowered experiments and aiming them at Solars (presumably the party,) ostensibly for the purpose of "protecting the realm" but really to collect data. Sort of how Lex sends his experiments/creations to fight the exalted.

If the party actually physically reaches him too early, either it was actually an essence-powered illusion projector, or he has managed to build a Kryptonite-Powered-Armor-Tier artifact suit that makes him stat-wise a really powerful alchemical while in it, and that can somehow take him into the aether with it when he banishes it from creation.

>>40827354
>"fuck you superhumans"
It's really mostly just superman.
Lex hates anything that a man cannot himself gain and control.

He'd fit well as a backer for groups of Hunters, but if made aware of Mages he would probably try and expose himself to as much Magic as possible to try and Awaken.

Problem being he's so damn stubborn it would take a while.
Perhaps the Path of Mastigos would help him refine his character.

>>40828178
>It's really mostly just superman.
It's not like he's fond of the rest of the Justice League.

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>>40828178
>Lex not already being an awakens technocrat in-charge of The Syndicate
>All this BS about Atlanteans
I severely dislike nMage fluff, and LOVE oMage fluff.

>>40828250
Would you be fond of a group which continually tries to wreck your plans? It's merely aliens that he seems to hate for the singular reason that they are foreigners trying to show humanity how to be better.

Down with the Xenoarchy!

>>40828323
Fair enough.
I haven't gotten around to reading any oMage.

>>40828323
>I severely dislike nMage fluff, and LOVE oMage fluff.
Who cares?
oMage is stupid as shit, but you don't see me busting into oWoD players' conversations to say that.

>>40828328
No, Lex is a faggot that uses that as an excuse. If Flash was his main adversary he'd come up with an equally bullshit excuse about how metahumans are holding humanity back from it's true potential. Because if he really honestly cared about aliens holding man back, his true beef would be with the white martians, you know, the guys that fucked with humanity's genetics a couple million years ago, and prevented us from becoming beings akin to the new gods of Apokalips and Nu Genesis. White martians are assholes.

>>40828530
>Ignoring how awesome Lex is as a Syndicate Technocrat overlord.
also
>Awakened humans fighting for control of subjective reality
>Dumber than "Atlantis pointy-hat wizards did it, and you're their decedents."

Though, in all fairness, the nMage system is INFINITELY smoother, I just need to refluff it to stomach running it.

I did once have a plan to run a nMage game where the big conspiracy was that at the end of the ascension-war/apocalypse, 5 awakened Traditionalists created a mutually acceptable paradigm, one in which the Traditionalists were top dog, the technocrats didn't exist, and they themselves where the supreme lords of it all. Through a massive ritual, they enforced that paradigm wholesale on reality, and each of the five other-dimensions that nMages get their power from, and that each other supernatural type went to and came back somehow, is an expression/reflection of one of the 5 Traditionalist Archmages. Never bothered to figure out what tradition the different pillar-creators were from, except for the "death-realm" one which fit perfectly for a Euthanoi.

>>40828662
oMage wouldn't have worked with the God Machine fluff as it is.

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>>40828131
>>40827931
>>40827815
>>40826833
>>40826677

When the party finally gets around to destroying notLex's unbound-exaltation factories, I see it going one of 3 ways.

>1: Players TOTALLY fuck up, notLex goes lolgodmode, and goes full Ebon Dragon and remakes creation in his own image. World of Darkness is born.

>2: Players enact any sort of half-way decent plan to disrupt/destroy the unbound exaltations, it works partially. NotLex throws a tantrum and sucks up the whatever exaltations he managed to save and becomes a bossfight

>2A: Players defeat bossfight, creation is saved

>2B: Players are defeated by bossfight, notLex goes full Ebon Dragon and remakes creation in his own image. World of Darkness is born.

>3: Somehow the players enact a plan so beautifully perfect that there is no possibility of there being any unbound exaltations left. Total victory.

For the bossfight, both to make it mechanically interesting, and to harken to the kryptonite power-source of.... everything Lex makes, his powersource is "the flaw." His supreme exaltation draws powers from the flaws built into everything in the exalted universe. He doesn't have access to the powers of true perfection, but true perfection simply doesn't work in his presence, and simply activates the flaw without any of the benefits. His powers fluff-wise come from the ability to pinpoint the flaw(s) in anything and everything and attack where they are weakest. Mechanically he's just a powerful boss with no true perfection moves upon whom no true perfection moves can be used. If you're feeling sadistic, MAYBE he has something that functions like a true perfection defense, where he heightens the flaws in an opponent's attack and makes them miss, but you limit the #of times he can do it, and only use it to make the fight last longer and/or be more challenging.

"The flaw" thing also captures the tragedy of Lex, and how he focuses so much on dragging others down, rather than purely elevating himself.

>>40829055
So why would it be WoD exactly if he ascended? Not sure I follow the logic there. If anything I'd see him as another Malfeas, putting other Exalted and Gods under a powerful geas with no loophole to exploit while he diddles with the games of destiny or to find the shining truth

>>40828693
1: This was before God Machine was printed. This was the brainchild of 2 drunken GM's in college who both loved the mechanics of nMage and hated the fluff change, and occurred about a year after nWoD came out at all.

2: much like nMage, I really liked the MECHANICAL changes to nWoD that GMC brought, but felt that it's fluff-changes were almost universally for the worse. If I were to ever run this, I would be pretty open with the group "GMC rules are being used, GMC fluff can choke and die. Don't assume it as true unless being convinced of a convoluted cosmic conspiracy that's blatantly untrue is something you're interested in exploring."

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>>40821580
Fucking died.

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>>40829125
I was thinking that the "Modern middle-class existence is actually pretty sweet" exterior and "literalized demons of modern society" interior of WoD might be an appropriate reflection of Lex's shiny libtard populist "HFY" exterior and "just a hypocritical selfish jealoous cunt" interior.

He thinks that he's going to create a perfect utopia with him as the glorious shining cornerstone. Only when it's too late to stop the changes he's making, his consciousness is expanded to the truly cosmic level and pic-related happens ( >>40827405 mentioned it earlier) He watches as all of his hidden inner darkness is externalized and literalized in what could have been a true utopia had he not been such a petty twat.

>>40829795
So in a way, he makes the world better for most of humanity on the surface, but supernatural predators pick on his 'perfect' world like carrion bird while the few followers who were given some measure of power look on at the reality he created (possibly the protomages and Fae) while he retreats into himself realizing the terrible mistake he'd made in arrogance

>>40826392
>So, basically, if it were the first or second act, he'd reject the Exaltation, but only because he was secretly planning to steal an even more powerful hidden prototype exaltation that was never actually used from the loom itself.

Knowing Lex, he'd probably spin his rejection of Exaltation as a pro humanist thing, claiming he'd rejected their power for his own way (while secretely trying to recreate it)

>>40829995
If you're going nWoD yeah. It would make sense him either becoming the God Machine as he gives up, or creating it as he leaves reality. I'd probably go oWoD, and have the various exalted types become the progenitors of the different supernatural types.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWKXvlt0do

Another reason why I though "turns into WoD" was because it was strongly hinted at (and blatantly stated in the teaser advertisement) that the Exalted world is the secret pre-history of the Olf World of Darkness. Each type of Exalted corresponds quite perfectly to one of the major oWoD supernatural types. In the Infernals book, it was even hinted that the Ebon Dragon had a long elaborate plot involving the to usurp all of creation, which seems likely to lead to the oWoD. Can't find an image of it, but there's some "foreshadowing" comic of the Ebon Dragon going "just as planned" in some apocalyptic landscape laughing at the pre-gen artist-archetype-example Solars..

They de-emphasized this in Exalted 2e when they were trying to distance their non WoD IP's from WoD and make Exalted a direct competitor to D&D, but you could tell some of the writers still had it in mind.

>>40828662
You seem confused as to how Awakening works. This kind of confusion is exactly why Atlantis is more or less being written out of being used in 2e.

>>40829136
There isn't really a big "GMC fluff". GMC isn't metaplot, no one cares if you don't use it because this isn't oWoD. The GMC is a chronicle focus that has several different mutually exclusive plot suggestions. The default assumption is that the God-Machine exists as much as Shadow exists in a mortal chronicle that never interacts with Spirits.

Rasputin>Lex Luthor

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>>40820953
Is superman in your setting?
No?
Lex wins.

>>40825483
He'd immediately game the system by masturbating wraith guard in and out of its sheath like that 4 minute speed runner.

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>Superman
>he's a fucking xeno

The only thing Lex Luthor did wrong was not kill Super"man" when he had the chance.

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>>40820953
He will fail miserabily, because I won't make him an Exalted and mortals in that system suck ass no matter how strong their suit can or might become.

>>40830654
>You seem confused as to how Awakening works. This kind of confusion is exactly why Atlantis is more or less being written out of being used in 2e.
well since we're on the topic, could you explain to me how Awakening works? As it stands, to me it seems like "you are destined to be associated with this pre-determined pointy-hat-themed archetype-pillar, with an extremely specific power-set." This all seems too.... limited for willworkers.

Also, the one thing I LEGITIMATELY could not decipher from nMage was how paradox worked. In oWoD it was basically that reality has been shaped to have certain standards, formerly accidentally by mortals, but more recently by the intentional manipulation of the technocracy. When your magic bend/breaks these rules, reality "snaps back" like a rubber band, smacking you in the face for breaking the rules.... though not always immediately, and often in strange ironic ways. I legitimately can not for the life of me figure out how it works on nWoD. Something like breaking rules rips holes in a barrier that separates reality from what essentially amounts to hell, and the hell-thingys fuck with you for fun, because the only thing stopping them is the barrier?

I know it's off topic, but since we have someone already here who understands it.

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>>40831045
>How about we move it here, where it will be on topic, and the guy in charge of it might show up.
>>40831088

>all this Luthor Wanking

Jesus, he might be smart but you can't "will" an Exaltation off of yourself, and he's certainly not smart enough to outwit a Dragon.

A Dragon has everything Luthor has and more.

>>40831481
He's done similar stuff in the comics. Yeah, he's a regular human. But he's also a character in fiction.

>>40831481
...he's not just smart, he's an atypical evil super genius. His intellect is practically a superpower. If Supes is the quinntesential Cape, Lex is the quinntesential evil genius. Half the wanking in this thread is just anons pulling shit from the properties he's been in

For instance, in the Superman Animated series he's considered some bullshit twelth level intellect capable of understanding the single greatest secret of the universe

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NeDNfhCwm_c

It's capeshit, which is bullshit all on it's own

>>40833336
>That Vid
>Heroic-Mortal notLuthor finding the physical location YuShan even though that's supposed to be impossible.