>>40993233

Thanks for taking this over but you've got to put quest in your title field brah.

>>40993233
>minor retcon
What you retconning and how can I trust you to not fuck this quest up?

>>40993233
i await with trepidation

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>>40993233
The war you fought with the orks was rough and caused many casualties to your army, but has provided valuable insight. You’ll need a bigger army. You have produced a system that takes in normal men and women from all across the crescent, and produces character, resolve, and most importantly, soldiers. You’ve united these people. You have produced a vast fleet of mighty warships to beat your enemies into submission. You have a mighty industrial base and economy that is thriving off of making products for the unknown wars that loom beyond the horizon. The people are getting a bit restless, uneased, even bloodthirsty. They are more than ready to lay down their lives for the glory of their hives and world. But that’s the problem. You know that the wars that lurk beyond the stars are massive in scale. Half of the planet missing is evidence enough. And the wars you must fight cannot be one by men alone. You’ll need a weapon that will turn the worldwide brawls into something a bit more manageable. And so you gather the crescent’s brightest minds, generals, economists, scientists, engineers, even a few theoretical physicists and astrologists, in your private echelon to develop a weapon or strategy that will win the long war.
4chan ate my post. My apologies. Writing on a word document now. 2/3, I lied.

>>40993989
Get notepad++.

>>40993345
We're just doing a bit more prepwork with the war effort. Nothing big, the story has barely begun yet. Fleshing it out. Then we start going to space.

>>40994028
How about we set a wiki page like A.I. Quest and HQQ have since this quest is going to feature stuff like empire building and tech research we may need a place where we can discuss it without cluttering the thread.

my vote goes to making smallish mechs for basic troops with upjumped melee weapons. and higher speed

what happened to kraven?
is he ded?

>>40994299
You mean power armor?

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>>40994299
like pic related?

>>40994335
nein a smallish titan like walker.

>>40994519
YES! exactly though not quite like that, but it serves as an example.

>>40994519
>>40994539
It would be more practical to have power armor for our basic troops.

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>>40993989
Pick two

>Tanks. Planes. Convoys. Artillery. We’ve seen them all from the orks, and we need much, MUCH more if we’re going to win this. For every 40 men I want a tank. For every company I want 10 jets ready to send the enemy crying home to their mommas. I want to shell them back to the hole they crawled from. Supply lines can and will be a bitch sometimes, but a well placed airstrike or tank can do absolute miracles. (Supplies lines are very vulnerable however, if you don’t have a safe zone on the planet already you might have lost the war before it began. Heavy human presence beforehand on a planet helps)
>Gas. Chemical weapons. Biological attack. We’ve seen how effective these things can be against the enemy, but haven’t employed them in large numbers yet. The green hordes will very soon become yellow hordes with some good artillery or weapons made just for this. We’ll need some more CBRN troops for this, which means troops are a bit better trained in general, but not much. It endangers troops a bit more, if you think the enemy isn’t more dangerous than those giant apes, but I’m telling you sir, there isn’t a greater weapon that can be used against the greenskins than mustard gas. (Kills most life around the area for some time, depending on strength used. Not as effective against high-tech foes, makes middle-tech foes’ economies strained a hell of a lot, primitives are dead. Good for getting rid of spores. Bad for flowerbeds. Also bad for damaged hazmat equipment.)
3/4

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>>40994681
>The best of the best. Go big or go home. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Troops will be brought well past the breaking point, turning them into the finest SOB soldiers you’ve layed your eyes on. Completely focused. Well trained, fed, groomed, equipped, and armed. Flexible, too. A soldier that isn’t well versed in tactics isn’t a soldier we need here. They’re almost machine in their precision. (They’re not as much of a person as they once were, but command structure runs like a dream. It well be nigh-impossible for them to return back to civilian life, too much trauma. Much higher number of elite troops, and they more than earn their price. They know 700 ways to kill a man with their hands, but hardly any ways on how to love. You’ll probably have to use cloning vats to keep population up. Say goodbye to much humanity or culture on your planet.)
Or,
>Write-in(Shoot for the moon, jerry.)
Shit, I meant to post this pic on that post. Damnit. I'll post the cbrn pic later.

>>40994582
basic troops as in our non astartes these would need a crew of at least four. also in setting power armour is far beyond our scope of creation.

Lets create a contrast, medium sized walkers creating all the noise and chaos while we have light troops with some form of camouflage move among the chaos and really win the fight.

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>>40994735
Next time I am pre-writing this shit, I swear it

>>40994735
>Write-in(Shoot for the moon, jerry.)
Power Armor.

>>40994776
Supporting.for every walker division there will be two infantry divisions in support.

>>40994735
>>40994743
Tanks, Planes, Convoys and Artillery and The best of the Best (lets create us a homunculus legion and ensure the purging of all genetic defects, base them on our DNA), lets muck about with ancient science and make Papa Emps wonder wtf is going on.

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>>40994681
>Tanks. Planes. Convoys. Artillery. We’ve seen them all from the orks, and we need much, MUCH more if we’re going to win this. For every 40 men I want a tank. For every company I want 10 jets ready to send the enemy crying home to their mommas. I want to shell them back to the hole they crawled from. Supply lines can and will be a bitch sometimes, but a well placed airstrike or tank can do absolute miracles. (Supplies lines are very vulnerable however, if you don’t have a safe zone on the planet already you might have lost the war before it began. Heavy human presence beforehand on a planet helps)

any walkers need to be pick related


>Write-in(Shoot for the moon, jerry.)
develop high precision orbital strike weapons for our void craft

>>40994854
>>40994842
Walkers are complete shit though.

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>>40994776
You can probably cybernetically alter those spiders we tamed with machine guns or somehting, you don't need to make a whole combat doctrine around them. You guys can if you want to, though.

>>40994681
>Write in: The best guns fiction can provide, we might not be the biggest nor the best army in the universe but every man in our force outguns our foes unless outnumbered by a very significant margin

>>40994735
>>The best of the best. Go big or go home. Pain is weakness leaving the body. Troops will be brought well past the breaking point, turning them into the finest SOB soldiers you’ve layed your eyes on. Completely focused. Well trained, fed, groomed, equipped, and armed. Flexible, too. A soldier that isn’t well versed in tactics isn’t a soldier we need here. They’re almost machine in their precision. (They’re not as much of a person as they once were, but command structure runs like a dream. It well be nigh-impossible for them to return back to civilian life, too much trauma. Much higher number of elite troops, and they more than earn their price. They know 700 ways to kill a man with their hands, but hardly any ways on how to love. You’ll probably have to use cloning vats to keep population up. Say goodbye to much humanity or culture on your planet.)

>Tanks. Planes. Convoys. Artillery. We’ve seen them all from the orks, and we need much, MUCH more if we’re going to win this. For every 40 men I want a tank. For every company I want 10 jets ready to send the enemy crying home to their mommas. I want to shell them back to the hole they crawled from. Supply lines can and will be a bitch sometimes, but a well placed airstrike or tank can do absolute miracles. (Supplies lines are very vulnerable however, if you don’t have a safe zone on the planet already you might have lost the war before it began. Heavy human presence beforehand on a planet helps)

>>40994882
like a tank but faster, how is that shit!

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>>40994854

>>40994944
>like a tank but faster
Someone thinks they know what they're talking about. Walkers are the slowest vehicle in existence.

>>40994981
warhounds are slow? really now? walkers are the first steps to Titans!

>>40994890
they aren't large enough for that.

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>>40994821
Haha, we can't do that just yet. Once we get an astartes legion, we'll see if we have time for that. Otherwise, just trust it's slowly being developed and tested. Hell, it took mars united for the prototypes of astartes armor to come into being.
Consensus is split between lots of vehicles/good Killingmachines soldiers and walkers/no other vote I guess...?, with support for walkers being tiny rape machines all around. Don't worry guys, our vehicles will be hot shit, but we just started planning these things. We'll see their worth later.

>>40995087
Holy shit can we make the walkers durable enough to be dropped into a hotzone from orbit?

>>40995170
that's it, channel the Steiner

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Consensus seems like it's for Best of The Best and Panzer vor. Is this right?
Anywho, writan.
>>40995069
Not as big as the pic I posted, but a machine gun mount could possibly be stapled on them or something.

>>40995087
I'm kind of against Best of the best because of what it would do to our people.
>>40995170
For fucks sake first gen walker are going to be worse than apcs

>>40995237
we have got time to refine the design.

>>40995306
I'm not against the idea itself it's just that they're so stupidly impractical that kind of doubt someone like Sol would use them.

>>40994939
if we do this, we'll have to keep a trained civilian core, if only to fill in ancillary services and produce more troops

>>40995440
while i agree that they are impractical, walkers are all over 40k with almost all the major factions having them which would imply that they are worth while at least in this setting

>>40995454
yep. Kinda figured we would have done this anyway.

>>40995479
The only reason walkers are so wide spread is because all ancient STC based technology is sacred and to modify it or improve upon it is technoheresy.

This is a setting where the admechs will reward each member of an expedition team a planet for finding a STC for a combat knife.

>>40995479
>40k
The thing is this is pre40k. Before everyone became blathering retards.

>>40995519
that doesn't explain the orks, eldar and nids
(would explain chaos though)

>>40995561
Orks should be self-explanatory, Nids don't use wheels, Eldars don't know about them.

>>40995561
orks because they think it looks big and cool, like an big ork made of dakka, eldar probably to show off and so they can claim their vehicle is an extension of themself or some bullshit and nids because a nid walker is just another big nid

>>40995614
>eldar probably to show off and so they can claim their vehicle is an extension of themself or some bullshit
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/War_Walker
>It is controlled by a single pilot who merges with its wraithbone core, entering a type of meditative state to become one with the machine
Seems like you're right.

these "Proto Titans" as the admech will probably label them are currently more like a distraction carnifex drawing the heavy fire so our smaller units can get shit done. we will eventually make them better that is for sure.

>>40995796
If that's the case they're not even worth having. Remember it's not year 40,000 we don't need to be retarded to survive.

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>>40995231
You hear out the words of every gifted mind in almost every field echoing in the ominous oval room, along with the faint buzzing of the white noise emitters. You take particular notice when the general mentions research being done into project SIGIL, a training regimen meant to cause temporary amnesia in a subject, keeping higher brain functions but instilling child-like aptitude, eagerness, and ability to learn. It’s interesting, if a bit morally concerning, but that’s not what grabs your attention. What grabs your attention is the marksmanship & CQC scores each soldier got. Hardly 20 bullets missed in 600 rounds for each subject at 500 meters, with the lowest score at 32 in 600. The moving target scores were almost identical, which is almost unheard of. And the CQC fights between two participants of the program usually lasted almost 2 hours before the doctors called time out.
“General, with all respect intact, how can I be certain these scores were not falsified? Project sigil had no signs of increasing muscle memory or anything that would suggest this increase in prowess.”
The old man gives a toothy grin with a couple teeth missing. “Ah, but m’lord, it’s being done a bit diff’rent this time. This time around we have them taking phyrenol mirexis, a speshal somethin’ somethin’ that makes all their anger an’ memories an’ those things being done in their sleep. We do that without our training, they have nightmares, we do it with it, they fight without ‘esitation. Like they ain’t sure whether they’re havin’ a dream or not. Makes for good soldiers, in either case.”

Your concern grows with every word. “Send a pic-feed of the course to me in the morning. I want to see the training in action.” As worrying as it is, right now you’re preparing for a whole lot more than something a few men can do.
1/?

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>>40995877
The engineers and generals are both agreeing on an issue, which is surprising, and they press a button on their table to request your ear. “M’lord, we’re developing some new machines, and we think you’ll like them an awful lot. We’ve come up with some fancy eye-in-the-sky vehicles, they can provide a platform for both, recon devices, and some support weaponry. We’ll need some more funding, but so far we’re coming along development without a hitch. We’re workin’ on some armored vehicles too, the boys at Marlyn base really like driving the things. And shooting ‘em, too. We uh… don’t quite have all the adamantium we want for all our tanks, but the boys have come about with a workaround. Static armor. It’s a bit complicated, but I’ll make it quick. Turns out that if we put some electro-reactive metals and transistors on the outside, not only will it block most las-weapons, but the atoms grow stronger bonds from the impact, AT the impact. It’s early stuff, we’re only testing it right now, but so far it shows promise. In fact, we brought in a sample for you. It should be here right about…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nyikyMD5L0
An alarm goes off, and you hear a man screaming. You’re the first out of your chair and out the door, a man is running around screaming, a heavy-looking jacket in flames around his chest, as he tries to unbuckle it. The engineer is close behind you, and you both stare as he gets hosed down by security.
“…It’s still in the testing phases. I guess something about white noise makes it combust.”
“…Will I still get that funding sir?”
You rub your temples and sigh. Yes, you tell him, he will have funding.

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Timeskip to fleet launch or no? It will be the last post for today if we timeskip, because I'll need to prepare next session.

Or you guys could think up some cuhrayzee ideas for army strategies. Just saying. Next planet we go to might be scary as fuck. Or it might not. Could just be a coupleMillion orks or something. Or it might be an elder maiden world. Could be anything.

>>40996396
>Or you guys could think up some cuhrayzee ideas for army strategies.
What do you mean?

>>40996396
Eh timeskipping is good, unless we can decide what kind of fleet we are designing.

>>40996443
Backing.

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>>40996434
Oh, I don't know. You'll want to have a plan of safely land an army onto a planet, because you always need an army on the place you're conquering. Whether you want to do trench warfare, or blitzkrieg, funnel an enemy into mountains, any of that. Or maybe fleet tactics. I'll draw a picture of your fleet in a bit.

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>>40996541
some minor Orbital bombardment to cleanse an area for troop landing moving on from there. walking barrages on military installations we can rebuild them when the invasion ends. aside from that shock and awe tactics for the ground forces will work best on a humanoid foe.

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>>40996443
Oh, that's a great idea! Sure.
You've been on the planet for a ~10 years, I think. And let's say each month was a point. That's 120 points.

>Fighter:Very high speed, very high mnvr, vry low cap, vry low def, low atk, 1/2 points

>Troop transport: Very high cap, med. maneuverability, med. spd, low atk, low def, 5 points

>Cruiser:Low cap, high mnvr, High spd, med. atk, med def, 6 points

Destroyer:High cap, med mnvr, med spd, high atk, high def, 17 points

Frigate:Very high cap, low mnvr, med spd, VERY high atk, very high def, 25 points

Sorry for being so slow and shit of a qm, it's my first time. I'm learning from it.

>>40996965
Alright there should be

2 frigates -50
4 destoyers -28
3 cruisers -21
99/120
3 troop transports- 15
104/120

The rest should be fighters

thoughts?

>>40996965
We could set up a wiki page or irc to flesh the mechanics and stuff.
As for ships
>>40997076
Seems good just convert the rest to fighters

>>40996541
Shock and awe. Orbital bombardment for a few days and then land troops as we expand the area of bombardment outwards.

Oh hey, I didn't realize someone took over the quest. Kraven is kill then?

>>40997109
This.

>>40997109
alright so that should be 32 fighters

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>>40997076
Well, that's a bit over the point limit, the destroyers are 17 points not seven... but I'll allow it. I can imagine us building that much in 10 years. Not even all that many ships now that I look at it. But it should be enough. There will be more made in the future, after all. >>40997229
Yes, unfortunately. A shame, too. I love his work. So unless he tells me I need to get off his baby, I'm taking over for now.

>>40997342
Just don't get too, well

Um

Crabby about it.

>>40997076
Well, that's a bit over the point limit, the destroyers are 17 points not seven... but I'll allow it. I can imagine us building that much in 10 years. Not even all that many ships now that I look at it. But it should be enough.
I've saved so many soldier pics and not one spaceship pic. Fuck.

>>40997342
>>40997384
to be honest I think you should have given us 240 points to work with.

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>>40997109
http://pastebin.com/2KM6cJz7
Made a pastebin for it. I could make a wiki for it as well, if any of you guys feel like discussing things on there. Probably won't get too much use but hey, it's an archive of military strategies, what's not to love.

>>40997512
By capital ship I think you mean Flag ship most large fleets should have several capital ships.

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>>40997472
...Fuck me, you're right. Feel free to add another 100 points to that while I go prepare something to eat. You have an entire world dedicated and prepared for war now, after all.

>>40997512
for some reason it irks me that Cruisers are being considered smaller than frigates and desrtoyers

>>40997660
Well yeah it should be Battleships > Grand Cruisers > Cruisers > Frigates > Destroyers but not knows about the different kinds of ships in 40k.

>>40997744
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Navy_Vessels_(List)
Here's a list of imperial ship note that the cruiser make up the bulk of the fleet while frigates/destroyer are escorts.

>>40997843
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Navy

>>40997660
My navy knowledge is truly a shit. Forgive me.
...Considering nobody has posted a list in the last half hour, I'll just guess what you guys want to do. 8 cruisers, 5 troop transports, and 54 fighters. Is this alright?

After this I will be writing the fleet take-off.

>>40998275
In the interests of moving forward, let's go

>>40998275
BFG is what got me interested in 40k in the first place so I have an idea of how navies work.

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It is a new era. For as long as man has stood upright, he has gazed towards the heavens for guidance. Being the most noble of creatures, he has always been thankful for the sun, and abhorred the endless darkness. But Humanity is never without her defenses. To combat this unsympathetic and forsaken time of day when all will is cold and familiar places become not so, man had created fire. With fire, man had a burning light through even the darkest of times, and all feared it’s righteousness.

Today, you are going through a scenario much like that time so long ago. You have flung a fire into the darkest abyss known. You have flung many, in fact. The roars of engines are felt throughout your body as you rise through Kilionos’ atmosphere at an ever-increasing speed, the mighty g-forces of your craft almost send you crashing to the deck of your ship, but you will yourself to stand up to see all the other crafts rising through the air. Not all are rising at once. Some soldiers still down there, almost like ants at this height, are marching into the mighty vessels, and you smile, knowing this moment is being seen by every man, woman, and child on Kilionos, fueling the fires of their souls with dreams and resolve. It was ten hard years of constant, often thankless work. But this, this moment made it all worth it. To see the effort and screaming victory that rips endlessly through the throats of the righteous, your people, is a sight greater than millions of sunrises. You cry in happiness. The last transport takes off, the cheeky man at the back of the line smiles and waves goodbye to the crowd, and laughs echo through the skies. As the rumbling begins to halt, you give your order again for the pilots of your fleet.

“Set a course for Victorie-1. Full speed ahead.”

The pilots pop champagne, and get much of it on the floor of your flag ship. And you couldn’t be happier.

Well that's it for this thread, I guess I'll stick around and answer any questions you might have.

We will build an empire that will make Girlyman cry in inadequacy!

>>40999119
How much of an Empire do you think we could accomplish before Daddy Autismo shows up?

>>40999119
How would you feel about a wiki page for this quest?
What's your twitter and when's the next thread?

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>>40999177
How big of an empire? Hmmm... I'm not sure. I guess it depends on how quickly you move. Anywhere from a dozen to a bit under or more than a hundred is possible. The tau grew an empire wicked fast, and you could presumably do so, too. Snowball effect is much bigger when we talk about planets. And primarchs. Holy shit does it get bigger with primarchs.
>>40999192
Depends on what wiki we're talking about here, but yeah, I could maybe make one. I do not own a twatter but I shall make one very soon, and it might be on sunday or wednesday, depending. Certainly not tomorrow, I have patriotic duties then.

>>40999390
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lost%20Primarch%20Quest
Do you want me to archive this thread or were you going to?

>>40999459
I have no idea on how to do so. I'll teach myself how, but if you could do that for me this time around that would be super.

>>40999513
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Lost%20Primarch%20Quest
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/40993233/
It is done.

>>40999390
>Depends on what wiki we're talking about here, but yeah, I could maybe make one.
A 1d4chan one? Cause that was what I was thinking.

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>>40999574
>>40999660
I've made a twatter account just for you guys.
https://twitter.com/GitbashCrabklaw
And sure, I'll make a 1d4chan page for it. Won't have as much exaggeration as the other pages, but sure, I'll do it.

>>40999069
so how many troops/walkers/tanks/aircraft would you say we are bringing with us?

>>41000020
the real question is how much of the planets population was left behind.

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>>41000020
>>41000049
There was about 300 million people on the planet. You took ~10 million, I'd say. Some people got really pissed that their sons or husbands or wives got volunteered for war, but most were happy that their life is finally getting on track, and they don't have to deal with orks butchering all their friends and family. As for how many of the vehicles we took? ...Well, walkers are compact I guess, so about a good 200,000 or so. Then you got the tanks, which you took about 70,000 of, and you got a hefty 43,000 fighter planes, 2,000 supply/support planes, and about 4,000 vtols/helicopters. You have 140,000 artillery pieces, but they're all disassembled to help with storage.
It sounds like a lot, but make no mistake, you will need every bit of these assets. World war 2 had much more losses involved, and you will be taking a world. Maybe the circumstances are different, but you're still trying to take a planet.

It will take a good month or so to unload everything and get it running. So keep that in mind.