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Admiral Thomas vanishes sometime in the afternoon, taking a chopper to Yokota to help co-ordinate the JSDF's air operations plan. A complex inter-military web of tanker support, CAP fighters and a patrol/loiter schedule is a difficult thing to orchestrate on last-minute notice, but the commander of 7th fleet is doing his damndest to make it happen. You're kept busy; conference calls with your staff, frequent adjustments to make sense of the latest weather forecasts and SIGINT data fed to you by the eggheads, working out detailed task-force orders and formations for them - adjusting the formations you'd like to the ones you think the girls can handle in their first real joint USN/JSDF op, without ramming into each other at an inopportune time. Harder and his Japanese “wolfpack” departed hours ago, burning fuel at flank speed to reach the AO ahead of the main task force.

People come, and people go. Goto, Naka. Shoukaku more often than not, bringing another cup of coffee or a requested printout or reference. Most of the work revolves around integrating Fitzgerald and Mustin's needs into the mostly shipgirl fleet; the girls themselves are a logistic cinch compared to steel-and-aluminum warships. But you finally run out of things to do, and are faced with the most nerve-wracking part.

The waiting.

You fall asleep in the awful, cheap office chair, head propped on one hand and one foot braced against the table in front of you, your sleeping pose from years on Higgins bridge. You're gently shook awake by Shoukaku around 0500 after a few hours of fitful sleep.

“It's getting close to daylight, Admiral.”

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>>41041258

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>>41039286
>>41039160
You asked for this

Still have no idea what the fuck these quests are about.

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You nod woozily and feel around groggily for... what were you looking for again? Shoukaku hands you something. Flaky. Sugar. Donut. And coffee? Right. You drink that. That's a thing you drink. The bright glaring light of the pseudo-CICs main display screen stabs your eyes painfully, but after a few seconds of squinting you can make out the icon of your battle group, slowly inching south towards the Bonin islands. They're a scant hundred miles north of it, having set sail at best speed last afternoon, and will be even closer at daylight. Your scouting force sailed north and rendezvoused with the task force in the night; considering it imprudent to linger within range of superior enemy airpower. You scan the room and discover Goto fast asleep across the table from you, cheek resting against one fist, a pen still in his hand - looks like he drifted off in the middle of writing a press release. Kongou is sitting next to him, flipping the cardboard lid of a donut box up and down, up and down, waiting. She notices you looking and smiles slightly, quietly, before going back to her lid-flipping.

You've downed three ibuprofin - no vicodin, not today - and half your coffee by the time Goto's phone begins to ring.

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“BUUUUUUUUURNING LOOOOOOOOOVE!” Kongou's tinny voice exclaims as the phone buzzes against the tabletop. Goto mutters dark maledictions that lack the coherent substance of awful threats, but retain the shape well enough to make his point. Kongou tries to massage the back of his neck until he plants a hand on her face and shoves her away, groping blindly about the tabletop for his phone as it continues to exclaim BUUUUUUUURNING LOOOOOOOOVE!” His cursing has gained form and substance now; all of it Japanese - somehow, that makes it darker and more terrible. His guttural, half-awake growling puts the VAs of a dozen Demon Kings to shame. Kongou flaps the box-lid to waft the tempting scent at him, but he just flaps back with a manilla folder.

You study the map carefully. Tone and Chikuma have six Jakes and two catapults apiece - Maya and Tako, one Jake and two Petes, with two catapults. The Pete's search radius is a measly 200nm, however; they're not much use outside of correcting fall-of-shot. That leaves you with six long-range scouts you can get off the catapults now - assuming they all launch without incident - and an additional four in an hour or so, roughly around sunrise.

In other words, not nearly enough.

“Tea, teitoku,” Kongou offers quietly, trying to push a styrofoam cup into Goto's hands. He fumbles with it, drags it closer and gives it a cautious sip. His eyes manage to creak open.

“Bluh?”

“Black tea,” Kongou replies. “Perfect for mornings!”

“Caffihn?”

“Yep!”

>>41041300
Your mom.

>>41041304
Kongou D'aww

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>>41041298
>That Willie D

Aw yiss

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“Ghud,” Goto grumbles and starts slurping at it eagerly. He rolls his chair over to sit beside you, waiting for the bright screen to stop stabbing his eyes painfully. When his brain has finally turned over without belching smoke he manages to speak.

“Gmurnin.”

“Yuh.”

He gives the data on the screen the once-over. “So, whudda yuh think?”

“Need more planes.”

“Nuh shit,” he replies. “Where are they coming from, though?”

You tap your pen on the printout listing your resources - six Marine P-8s are waiting on the ramp at Yokota with a pair of Slammers each... but they're awfully big, loud and obvious compared to the old-fashioned crates your girls can launch, and if they're lost, real people will die. Your other option, of course, is to launch strike planes to search - but that reduces your total firepower when you DO find the enemy.

“Well, what do you think?” you ask Goto.

>>41041342
>“BUUUUUUUUURNING LOOOOOOOOOVE!” Kongou's tinny voice exclaims as the phone buzzes against the tabletop
welp

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“Iku and Hachi both carry a scoutplane,” Goto points out, “and if we want any use of them we gotta use them now, since we're running out of darkness fast. They're right in the middle of where we're expecting to find those fuckers, so their loiter time and covered area will be rather bigger.”

“If they're spotted, that'll tip off the abyssals to our subs,” you caution.

He shrugs. “If they find them for us, they'll have justified their sortie by that alone.”

“What about additional aircraft?”

“Use Hornet's TBFs. We've got enough time to get six or eight of those into the air and still get her SBDs ready to join the general strike package, after all. Hold the P-8s back as a surprise. Let's see them spot planes with Slammers screaming in on 'em.” He sniggers with dark glee and slurps at his tea.


>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Launch Hornet's SBDs as scouts - without a bombload they can be surprisingly nimble, very sturdy and tend to come home alive; as well as long-ranged.
>Launch Hornet's SBDs... with a 250 pound bomb. It'll reduce their range a bit, but the abyssals like to pop up close (as you damn well know) and maybe, just maybe her SBDs will get lucky while the enemy is confused.
>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.

SEPARATE VOTE:

>Use the submarine scoutplanes.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

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>>41041298
ahahaha I fuckin love you anon that is amazing.

also fuck me that was the wrong image earlier but someone requested sokusukus so I added one to the top of the pagoda hat tower

>>41041410

FUCK came too late to post about order of battle

>too late to write-in 2nd Carrier Division alt choice

>wanted to ask if we can change faries from one ship to another

>remove Chuichi Nagumo-fairy from Akagi

>replace with Tamon Yamaguchi-fairy from Hiryuu

>>41041410
>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.

>>41041410
>>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Use the submarine scoutplanes.

>>41041298
>Suddenly Willie
Kek

>>41041410
>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
I love me some Poseidon towed sonars in the morning.

>Keep the subs low-profile.
RUNNING SILENT

>>41041300
Sluts that are ships that are sluts. Shipsluts.

>>41041298
Glorious.

>>41041410
>>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
>>Keep the subs low-profile.

This looks good to me.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041298


why

this

>>41041410
>>Keep the subs low-profile.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041448
Thanks Halley! Good thing you saw my request!

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low profile
>Have the Virginias prep their Tomahawks for strikes on major surface targets once hey get a solution

>>41041410
>>Use the submarine scoutplanes.
Don't know about the other one but I'll vote for this.

So wait...are we actually at war or is this some weird fetish wargaming club?

>>41041410
>>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041300
"What if the spirits of sunken WW2-era warships came back as girls so that they could help fight the spirits of sunken warships who've come back as monsters?"

>>41041410
>>Launch Hornet's SBDs... with a 250 pound bomb. It'll reduce their range a bit, but the abyssals like to pop up close (as you damn well know) and maybe, just maybe her SBDs will get lucky while the enemy is confused.
>>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

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>>41041532
Not every ship spirit that comes back is friendly, anon.
In fact, most of them aren't.

>>41041410
Subs low profile, use Hornets SBD's with no bombs as scouts. She's running CAP and won't need them anyways

>>41041410
>>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
>Use the submarine scoutplanes.

>>41041538
>What if the spirits of sunken WW2-era warships came back as girls

There's at least one boy, probably more in the Russian navy.

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>>41041532
>actually at war

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>Keep the subs low-profile.

I'm just saying.
Harder is small and easily fittable inside a torp tube.
Stuff him inside an SSN's launch tube, and sneak the SSN's up REAAAAAAAL CLOSE, and then let Harder have some fun.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged

And also suicidally useless in a strike role.

>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041532
Ghost ships, son.

>>41041410
>>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

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Enterprise when.

>>41041410
>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041445
this

>>41041410
>>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041410
Use two scout options:

>Launch Hornet's TBF torpedo bombers
>Sortie the P-8's.

Seperate Vote
>Use the submarine scoutplanes.

The battle will hinge on detection; it is not exaggeration to say we'll lose if we can't see them first.

>>41041410
>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

Keep the fleet hidden for a surprise attack.

>>41041532
Have you been reading the same quest as everyone else?

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
It's not like they have any use as torpedo planes anyway.

>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041270

is shoukaku in meido?

>>41041568
I don't think Harder's qualified for SEAL duty though.

>>41041410
>>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.

Marines need something to do before they get bored.

Also
>>Keep the subs low-profile.

What kind of Japanese blood magic is this? What happens if you impregnate one of the ship girls?

>>41041613
I see this quest pop up every so often and get confused as hell trying to follow it.

>>41041342
>“BUUUUUUUUURNING LOOOOOOOOOVE!” Kongou's tinny voice exclaims as the phone buzzes against the tabletop

Well played, Now i can't that that out of my head.
>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

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Big Spud would be good friends with Obannon I feel.

>>41041620
I never said SEAL duty.
More like "He's from the '40's and much louder than the SSN's so lets have the SSN's transport him real close undetected"

Plus the pipsqueak saves on resources and fuel getting there etc. etc..

>>41041656
He's a little louder, surprisingly not that much louder though.

>>41041638
Here's a tip: try reading from the first thread, it does wonders.

>>41041656
Well, fair enough.

I guess I'm just used to seeing SEALs hogging those tubes.

>>41041638
Drink more.
That's how I cope.

Thought it just might be the Rained out July 4th so Fuck it BBQ July 5th drinking.

>>41041638
Using the archive to read the threads in order will probably help

>>41041619
I wouldn't be surrpsied she had an outfit and knew how to clean. She had a nurse's outfit and could do some nursing stuff quite well.

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>>41041492
Because they could planefag, you should know this by now.
OH YES! I have a pic for you tonight!

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>>41041410

>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.

>Keep the subs low-profile.

Werent Nip subs crippled cause they were designed to pack one scout plane? Room better used for packing 1000lbs of fuck you?

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>>41041594
Momentarily.

>>41041690

oh my god that's my headcanon made manifest

>>41041410
>>Launch Hornet's SBDs as scouts - without a bombload they can be surprisingly nimble, very sturdy and tend to come home alive; as well as long-ranged.
WoWS Teaches me that Dive Bombers are largely useless shit and suited to keeping tabs on things out of AA range.

>>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041696
Nips are only second to the nazis in design shenanigans. The difference being the nazi ones were usually useful.

>>41041656
>>41041682
Really I just think it'd be funny and totally in character for the pipsqueak to do something like that.

Hell, it plays right with his video games and fantasies and shit, doesn't it? I think there was a CoD game where you deploy from a sub. Tell him that his mission is to re-enact that level and watch him jump right into the tube.

Alternatively, since ships can take a lot more abuse than humans, >rocket powered underwater Harder torpedo

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>>41041448
Updated for the poor passenger

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Would be nice if hornet got equipped with this...

>>41041690
Great work fluff

>>41041723
Germans are good at submarine in general. Type VIIC stronk.

Type XXI Hilariously stronk, though never got to see use.

>>41041690
Holy fuck Fluff where did you get this?

>>41041696
That's why Iku's plane hatch is perfect place to fuck her.

>>41041718
>Dive Bombers are largely useless shit
They were like the only useful plane in the pacific for ASh purposes.

With a honorable mention for late war torpedo planes.

>>41041726
Yeah, it was from MW3.

Then again, when a ship spirit 'suits up', their weight transforms into their actual weight, so that might not be a good idea.

>>41041734

Hahahaha, thank you anon.

>>41041746
NO IT WOULD NOT

>>41041746
What B-25s? Planefag already said that she can launch them if she wanted. We're just saving them for the right time.

>>41041726
>I think there was a CoD game where you deploy from a sub. Tell him that his mission is to re-enact that level and watch him jump right into the tube.
Modern Warfare 2. Storming the Russian Oil Rigs to rescue hostages and seize the monitoring facilities on it.

>>41041718
>dive bombers

>midway

>laughingvb6.jpg

>laughingvs6.gif

>laughingvb3.png

>>41041734
Bloody bang-on job, chief!

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>>41041718
sbds are the worst goddamn scouts ever they're slow as fuck

>>41041717
Aims to please
>>41041747
>>41041757
Not my art, It's toorops's art. I will not take credit from him. I just worked with him to describe it and planefag's thread where it came from.

>>41041718
That's cause WoWS has shit design. Midway would like to say hi.

>>41041787
>Recon B-25s

THIS MUST BE DONE

We already know Hornet goes commando, what with her being a Native American and all.

>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.
Hey Planefag are the TBFs Hornet have radar equipped?

>>41041777

Shouldn't you be at the bottom of the pacific serving as a house for sea creatures about now?

>>41041805
they also have stupid long range and more than one crewman to look for ships

>>41041410
>>Sortie the P-8s; they can cover a lot of ocean even with inhibited radar function and give the enemy a nasty surprise when they do. Keep Hornet's aircraft for the main strike.

>Use the submarine scoutplanes.

Run silent, subs and planes don't mix.
Use the P-8s thats there damn job.
Hornet and Fuel, send SBD with out bombs.
What the hell was settle doing shouldn't this be planed already?

>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.

>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41041718
That because Dive bombers have the express goal of setting shit on fire.

Wait for a shit to catch fire, wait for them to put it out with their repair ability, then send in the dive bombers

>>41041718

>world of torpedo spam

>>41041819
While they have a nice range, I'm pretty sure they are better used as bombers, since they are the best "carrier-based" bombers of the era

>>41041819
>Not using the B-25s for bombing the shit out of the enemy fleet with their superior bomb carrying capabilities
>Not using the B-25s as torpedo bombers
Do you even bomber?

>>41041824
I DO NOT HATE TELL THEM I DONT

>>41041298
I can just imagine Willie screaming I'm sorry as she exits the atmosphere.

Why do I find such glee in that?

>>41041530
They gonna sink, HMS M2 anyone?

>>41041891
Hornet, why would Hate know?

>>41041884
>using high altitude level bombers for things they were never intended to do.
Sounds awesome.

>>41041718
WoW only gives you're DB HE bombs which are shit when dealing with anything bigger then a tin can. Torp planes get murderized in real life. What do you think killed the Nagumos carriers at midway? Sure wasn't the Torpedo Bombers.

>>41041912
>B-25s

>high altitude

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>>41041916
>WoW only gives you're DB HE bombs

You're fucking with me right

>>41041934
There are very little options for armament at all for anything, so most people are hoping that it will be added. But this is WG we are talking about, so it will of course be premium.

>>41041925
>>high altitude
It's a damn sight higher then where torpedoes have to be dropped.

>>41041934
>You're fucking with me right
Nope, AP bombs are in development or something.

>subs with planes
NOPE

>>41041934
Go back to writing Lain.

>>41041891
...Hornet, how does Hate know you don't go commando?

>>41041884
But Hornet's Torpedos are shit though. They didn't fix torpedos unil 44-45

>>41041934
game's still in development.

That said, it's still great fun.

>>41041934
still technically a beta

rumours are they're trying to incorporate different bomb loadouts...but so far they're rumours only.

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>>41041912
Mate

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>>41041934
they tried AP bombs in Alpha

literally one-shotted everything

Here's a St. Louis or something

>>41041934
It sure as hell looks like it with it doing fuck all damage health wise and the fact there is a big explosion and it really only fucks with the superstructure. AS a CV skipper in the CBT it sucked balls. Agree it was still fun though.

>>41041988
Ryuhou got hit if that is the Doolittle raid.

>>41041988
Gotta consider the theatre

That might have worked perfectly fine in the black sea, or in the atlantic and the north sea/baltic sea.

dunno if it would be just as affective in the pacific theatre.

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Don't do it...

>>41042002
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>>41041977
The B-25 can carry MULTIPLE torpedoes. The torpedoes may be shit but if you drop enough of them then Murphy's lay says that more will successfully run.

>>41042027
>expecting good pc games out of russia

>>41042002
>literally one-shotted everything

"these totally unbalance the Japanese CV tree guys what do we do"

>>41042063
You should see what they did with US AA on anything not a Cleveland.

VOTES CALLED, WRITING WOOP DE DOOP

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>>41042023
Effective.

And yes, it was done extensively in the Pacific.

>>41042027
Yeah, it looks like it should have been released in 2012, not 2015. It looks like complete shit

>>41042023
That IS the Pacific Theater. The AAF used the B-25 extensively in anti-ship skipbombing roles. It was their anti-ship plane of choice, mate.

>>41042049
No, Murphy's law says they all miss, detonate prematurely or not.

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Didn't we already discuss skip bombing...
Planefag why no B-25s

>>41041746
>That ass.

But that hip looks odd.

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>>41042002
>literally one-shotted everything
Isn't that pretty accurate though?

>>41042063
they replaced Iowas quad bofors with dual bofors for no reason

>>41042099
>All those sailors holding for dear life on the exposed portside

>>41041891
She does, wo.

>>41042049
>Multiple

http://www.hill.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=5666

It only carried one.

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>>41042099
>why can't we open up with our limit break

anon

anon pls

>>41042117
And that's when the B-25 came around and orbited them while strafing them.

It's rather unsettling just how casually official war histories describe crews working over men in the water until they were all dead.

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>>41042152

>>41042136
>not giving him glorious Mk48 ADCAPs.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=428_1216908004

>>41042049
>The B-25 can carry MULTIPLE torpedoes.

Only in War Thunder. Not in Reality.

>>41042111
Guess how many bombs hit Akagi at Midway

>>41042152
>limit break
Planefag you're giving me SRW Z2 flashbacks here.

>>41042158
History is straightforward, anon. No time for emotion.

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>>41042112

fukkin hell

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>>41042152

The Abyssals are not rewarding us for good sportsmanship, planefag.

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It would be best for Hornet to launch everything except the CAP and a SBD squad or two and be done with it.

That's why we have Akagi and Kaga around, to deliver the kill.

>>41042168
If we can give him the MK48s then WHY NOT! lets give him MK48s he needs something better then those damn MK14s regardless

>>41042192 My Arkansas has fuck all as AA weapons. Not even a midget 30. cal.

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>>41042210
ShowCrane's face gets me everytime.

>>41042206
I wish to learn more about this clip.

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>>41041410
>Launch Hornets TBF torpedo bombers as scouts - they're sturdy, well-armed and long-ranged.
>Keep the subs low-profile.

>>41042189
Perhaps, but you don't exactly expect to see US units casually going "Oh yeah, we totally committed some war crimes here. This guy was so into it he had to change his MG's barrel 4 times. It was a good day."

>>41042251
Sabagebu, slice of life anime about an airsoft (survival game, hence sabagebu) club.

>>41042210
Where is that from?

>>41042206
it's more keeping it an ace in the hole, a tide turner, etc.

Settle is american, not NIPPON "I WILL FINISH IN THIS ONE ATTACK"

>>41042263
It was a fact of life back then, not something to be overly concerned about.

>>41042256
Dat kubelwagen

>>41042206
Sauce?

>>41042272
Especially considering his very first command of a shipslut engagement involved getting jumped by unexpectedly tough foes

>>41041568
First problem: We aren't actually bringing any SSNs. That was a typo.

>>41042302
See >>41042268

Are there abyssal land installations in this? Cause if there are we need the Cactus AF and the B-29 airstrip on Iwo jima. Lots a lots a bombs we need yes sir we do.

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>>41042238
>>41042210

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>>41042251
>he didn't watch sabegebu

>>41042322
we did the Oregon and New Jersey

>>41041560

Remind me again what the size of the area that we need to search?

Because I'm thinking we could arm the SBD's with 500 pounders and maybe get a lucky shot in like those SBDs at Santa Cruz

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>>41042271
You don't want to know.

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>>41042289
>It was a fact of life back then, not something to be overly concerned about.

I can guaran-fucking-tee you none of the 8th or 9th Air Force units have anything like that in THEIR official war histories. It may have occasionally happened, but they sure as shit didn't admit it in an official manner or while sounding proud of it.

>>41042393
Tell me.

Tell meeeeee

>>41042378
seconded

gonna need a sense of scale

>range of 970 nmi, unknown load
>round trip of maybe 400 nmi stretch, or 300 with margin

>>41042393
yes. Yes I do.

>>41042411
>>41042409
It's not porn, don't get your hopes up.

>>41042409
>>41042411
http://imgur.com/a/PgY4b#0

>>41042422
Don't ca~re!

>>41042401
Europe is more than a little bit different from the Pacific. The Pacific was essentially the Eastern Front. Both sides committed war crimes against each other and were not ashamed of it.

>>41042271
>>41042411
>>41042409
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/823401/424620b88e/

>>41042410

Oh god that would be tough for the SBD's. That's nearing the round trip for the dusk strike at the Phillipine Sea.

>>41042152
Planefag, so the thing I mentioned earlier how did Hornet equip Hellcats since in her naval career she only carried Wildcats.

>>41042152
What?

>>41042443
What war crimes did the Americans do to the Japanese army? Seriously.

>>41042457

Well if the Enterprise could carry them, the Hornet could do it too.

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Cruiser that took 2 nukes to the face? Seems like she would be useful.

>>41042476
>Clever girls?

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>>41042411
>>41042409
I was looking for the links but other kind anons were faster.

Oh well.

>>41042476
>Do you feel like an admiral yet?

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>>41042513

>>41042513

Fairies did nothing wrong.

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>>41042476
It's a tough job, admiral, but someone has to do it.

>>41042479
Refusing to take prisoners is typically frowned upon. As is machine gunning men in the water. You can justify it as "militarily expedient to not let those men get back into the fight", but if a Jap had done it we would have hanged him after the war.

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Best fairies.

>>41042479
Lots of killing surrendering/ wounded foes. Nothing formally organized.

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>>41042559

>>41042552
To be fair though, most Japanese combatants refused to surrender or be taken alive. In several cases, these refusals resulted in American and Allied casualties. Hard to blame them after those incidents.

>>41042479
There were some prisoner shootings. Nothing organized, nothing on the scale of what Germany and Japan had done, but a fair number of Japanese who tried to surrender simply got shot. Some of that may have been due to experience with false surrenders, but it's clear that the US Army's hands were not entirely clean in the Pacific.

Still, again, nowhere on the scale of what our enemies did.

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>>41042578

>>41042552
>>41042560
Killing the enemy is a war crime?

>>41042476

We need to do one for settle but who should be the 3rd?

>>41042602
When they surrender, yes.

Didn't the USS Wahoo machine gun guys from a ship they sunk? Then again I believe the Wahoo crew said the Japanese shot at them.

>>41042603
Hornet or Kirishima

>>41042603
Shokaku Arizona and Higgins.

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>>41042603
Shoukaku, Arizona, Hornet

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I like how we have two secretary ships all of a sudden.

Kinda feel bad for Naka for making her run around.

>>41042602
It is when they've surrendered or are otherwise helpless.

It's a simple concept, and if you don't grasp that, I pray you never wind up in the Armed Forces.

>>41042485
The thing was that she didn't because she didn't make it that far in the war so she couldn't be aware of them or at least have the know how on equipping them.

Also some doing some minor research if we needed recon Hornet carried 37 recon planes (or least was designed to) so we could have had Vought OS2U Kingfishers scout for us.

>>41042479
Shooting surrendering soldiers, machinegunning sailors in the water, a couple incidents of torture, I think I remember something about a raped nurse on Okinawa.

Nothing the Japanese weren't doing too, obviously, but there's some definite hypocrisy when you hang Axis soldiers and officers for war crimes but don't even pretend to prosecute people who did the same thing for your side.

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>>41042602
When they've surrendered, yes it is. Otherwise we wouldn't have cared about the Bataan Death March.

>>41042632

Naka for day operations, Shoukaku for night operations.

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>>41042632
not even kaga deserves that

>>41042632
That one's a hentai, isn't it?

Guess on the "plot": The Admiral's screwing Shoukaku in front of Kaga for some reason.

>>41042636
To be fair, the pacific war and european western front had very different levels of civilization. Nazis mostly played fair, the japs had an official "kill everyone" principle.

>>41042602
Killing the enemy in battle is one thing. Killing surrendering soldiers or prisoners is quite another, and a war crime. When the fighting has stopped, there's no enemies on the battlefield, just soldiers.

>>41042667
What about Arizona?


I wonder where she is right now, she should have woken up?

>>41042634
Honestly, when the Enterprise first got them in 1943, it didn't really require any kind of special modifications if at all.

>>41042636
welcome to "winners writing history"

>>41042678
>Nazis playing fair
are on the same war anon

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>>41042667
Listen to this anon.

>>41042700
>History is written by the victor.
>History is full of liars.

>>41042678
Fully true, but fighting animals does not excuse lowering oneself to the level of being another animal.

>>41042700
Sadly true.

>>41042696
Arizona for naka hugging operations

>>41042634
Also Kingfishers are carried by US cruisers and Battleships.

Hornet used SBD Dauntlesses.

>>41042710
They played fair with the soldiers they considered human.

>>41042633
Don't get me wrong I get that shooting guys who surrendered is a fucked up thing to do but given that its the Japanese, who have the self preservation instincts of lemmings is what I'm confused about. The Japs weren't germans who for the most part played it fair and straight while the japs were completely inhumain and ruthless.

>>41042682
Not to the Japanese.

>>41042634
An F6F is just an F4F with a not-shit engine.

>Hornet carried 37 recon planes (or least was designed to)
I don't think they ever did once the war started.

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>>41042671
Infinite Kaga works?

>>41042729
"Eye for an eye and the whole goes blind" and all that, anon.

Or basically what >>41042718 said.

>>41042632
Here's my guess on what's going on: Kaga has regularly enjoyed sleeping with the Admiral, but she's done something to displease him, so he's punishing her by making her sit there and watch while he fucks Shoukaku instead.

>>41042718
There is a /k/ post floating around that gives some explanation to this. By the time we started firebombing japan we no longer cared about treating the Japanese as anything but a stain to be removed from the world.

>>41042729
>germans who for the most part played it fair and straight
On the Western front. Russians tended to get the short end of the warcrimes stick.

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fap angel dead, post lewds

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>>41042760

>>41042002
I love playing this ship. There's always at least 1 gun pointing at the enemy, and a full broadside feels great.

>>41042755
The principle is very beautiful, but pragmatism wins in the end. If your enemy is a bitch and tricks you using your own rules, your patience tends to run out, especially when there's casualties because of that.

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>>41042760
>>41042779

>>41042758
Which is the problem. Note how many other Americans were thrown into concentration camps in all but name simply for having a Japanese ancestry.

War is a conflict between nations, ideologies, religions, ideas and ideals. Humans are just the weapons, and weapons have no need of hate.

>>41042733
Hornet carried about close to that many during Midway. Not all were operation (that was true for everyone) but still.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob/OOB_WWII_Pacific/OOB_WWII_Midway.htm

>>41042759
True. Weren't the SS in full force on the eastern front?
>>41042755
Hm Good message, very philosophical and semi impractical.

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>>41042802
Hnnnng.

>>41042806
>weapons have no need of hate
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN IOWA X HATE THEN

>>41042720
It's already been several hours and Hate and Hornet managed to get Yamato so I'm assuming Arizona is awake too by now.

>>41042733
I get that but i'm curious on how Hornets and the fairies managed to get F6Fs without raiding a museum or old factory.

>discussion

kk, update coming

>>41042760
>>fap angel dead, post lewds
Ok.

Arizona's excellent eyes are staring at the precious cargo atop the flatbed of the Nissan truck acquired by Hate through his mysterious ways.

This is a reunion decades in the making. The University of Arizona practically stumbled in its haste to return their borrowed artefact to its original and rightful owner.

Arizona tiptoes towards her long-lost ship-bell as if she's floating on cloud nine. She rests her palms upon the smooth sides of the bronze artifact and closes her eyes in contemplation not unlike that time she was blinded during her first battle with the Abyssals.

The bell shimmers with bluish light like Saint Elmo’s fire. It lets out the first of sixteen solemn peals, a pattern rung only once a year, eight rings to bid the old year goodbye and another eight in welcome for the new year. After tolling for the sixteenth and last time, the shining bell fades away, presumably going to That Place where Arizona stores her rigging and the other bell.

Arizona slowly turns to you. Her eyes are waterlogged but her small smile shines as bright and warm as the sunburst adorning the flag of her namesake state. Her pink lips part. She speaks her first words ever.

"I do."

Her voice turns out to be soft yet firm, gentle but strong. It’s fitting for one like her-

You freeze. Wait. Did she just say what you thought she said?

"Ah... Arizona?" you ask. "Could you repeat that?"

"I do!"

And Arizona throws her arms around your neck, pulls your head down to hers, and presses her lips upon yours.(1/2)

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>>41042806
>War is a conflict between nations, ideologies, religions, ideas and ideals.

Well, duh.

>Humans are just the weapons, and weapons have no need of hate.
Go hug a tree somewhere else.

>>41042729
Again, at least in theory, you should not lower yourself to the enemy's level. Furthermore, you should not lump all Japanese soldiers into one bin of "war crimes machines". There were good soldiers and there were bad soldiers, it's just that the insanity of the situation, their society, and their superior officers tended to draw out the bad.

The only reason I'm not outright disgusted with what happened is that there were a lot of false surrenders and a lo of warcrimes by the Japanese, enough that I understand if not necessarily approve of what happened; and given that I'm relaxing comfortably in my chair while they were out in the jungle, having their buddies killed, I'm not sure I'm in a position to judge.

>>41042831
Not just SS. Pretty much everyone.

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“... good idea,” you agree. “Only thing that's worse than a slow shot is a slow shot that misses, as they say.”

“A jab that hits is worth more than a haymaker that whiffs,” Goto agrees.

The TBF was a heavy, lumbering beast - it could carry bombs as well as torpedoes, but glide-bombing attacks sacrifice the standoff advantage of torpedoes and are far less likely to hit than dive-bombers - and much more likely to be struck by return fire. Hornet's scouting SBDs got lucky at Santa Cruz and put Zuihō's deck out of action early in the fight with 500 pounders.. but it didn't *sink* her, and abyssals are like rats, or roaches - tremendously hard to corner, and even harder to bring to battle if they don't want to. You've got to take your opportunity and land a killer blow. Plane for plane and fish for fish Akagi and Kaga's, uh, “aircrews” are better trained and equipped for torpedo attack; and flying in pairs with those powered rear turrets and dorsal guns they stand a good chance of coming home for later use.

“Lets keep the subs running quiet, though. Scoutplanes are hardly subtle; and they're our best shot at confirming a kill on anything the airpower cripples,” you point out.

“We might want them later,” Goto agrees.

>>41042852
Man, I love meta-discussions in planefag threads.

>>41042838
That is not a need, merely a desire!

>>41042866
You have no idea what I am, do you.

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>>41042838
STATEMENT: THERE WAS A HOLE

>>41042759
Nah m8. Russians were the IG. They had commissars with machine gun nests forcing the grunts into the buzzsaw rip of German automatic fire. Comissars are untouchable.

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You pick up your headset and greet the fleet; a chorus of bright and not-so-bright voices greeting you. The skippers of Fitzgerald and Mustin chime in, trying not to sound awkward following the high-pitched voices of women and excited girls. They don't quite succeed. You lay out plans for a radial two-phase search; a first wave of scoutplanes launched now, to begin a search a few hundred miles out when the sun finally rises; with a second wave launching at sunrise to cover the intervening distance. Soon the girls are warming up their miniature planes. The darkness makes it hard to see, but you could swear you see tiny shapes fiddling about the scoutplanes on their catapults, running to hook up fuel and oil lines.

“Admiral,” Mustin's skipper queries. “What am I doing with my LAMPS?”

“ASW,” you reply promptly. “One torpedo and a drop tank; they might need to fish someone out of the drink.”

“Copy. When should I put them up?”

“Wait till we make contact,” you reply. “Their subsurface assets will hone in on you as soon as they've got a fix. Save your airborne hours for then.”

“Copy.” He sounds confident, and little wonder - for all the advances and changes in submarine technology, the basic principle of men with headphones intently listening to whale farts hasn't changed a whit. Noise is noise, and abyssals make a noise like none other.

“BLAST you!” a silky voice is huffing. “Why is it always YOU? ALWAYS you? Just once, could you bloody well WORK!?”

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Woof.

>>41042806
Humans are still humans, and emotions are a major part of that. Lately we have been putting 'rules of engagement' on our troops in the middle east. Does it look like we're winning there with them? Wars are horrific and monstrous for a reason. It is to make it the drive to compete it as fast as one can to end it. Being human in war only leads to more cruelty and loss.

>>41042892
Umm slight nitpick but Enterprise's SBD's were the ones to hit Zuiho at Santa Cruz, not Hornet's.

>>41041564
Jorge please

>>41042918
>They had commissars with machine gun nests forcing the grunts into the buzzsaw rip of German automatic fire. Comissars are untouchable.
That's complete and utter hollywood bullshit and you know it.

>>41042870
True, true. Wasn't the reason that there were so many war crimes was that bad men who were being crushed by Japanese culture at the time had a chance to crush other men and went crazy with it and a retarded amount of NIPPON STRONG!

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“You having problems, Tone?” you ask.

“This blasted- I - uh. Um. Admiral. Settle. Admiral Settle,” she says, her crisp enunciation quavering a bit. “Uh. I uh. Didn't know this was on.”

“It's always on,” you remind her. “What's the problem?”

“Just a delay in flight operations, Admiral.”

“Number 4 floatplane, eh?”

“N-not necessarily, it might be the c-c-atapult! There's nothing wrong with myyyyyy aircrews!” she decides. “I'll have number four up shortly.” She drops her voice to a wicked low mutter, venom creeping into her tone. “Launch, damn you, or the next cat you'll see will have *teeth*-”

You click over channels as Goto sighs and facepalms. “Hornet, how about you?”

“First strike is warming on the hangar deck, sir. I'll begin spotting shortly.” She pauses. “Are you sure I shouldn't sling some bombs on these scouts? Just in case?”

You think. All you know for sure is that the abyssal carriers were east of the Bonin islands... yesterday. North, south, closer, further - you've no idea. Unburdened, your strike planes and scouts have a radius of 500nm or so; loading even light bombs on Hornet's SBDS will cut their range considerably.

Still. It paid off at Santa Cruz...

>Go for it - it's Hornet's style.
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

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>>41042864
Oh my.

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>>41042864
>waifufags

>>41042946
>Umm slight nitpick but Enterprise's SBD's were the ones to hit Zuiho at Santa Cruz, not Hornet's.

STOP

BULLYING

HORNET

JUST GOTTA BE THAT GUY, JUST GOTTA MAKE HER CRY

LOOK AT THIS GUY, BEING MEAN TO SHIPS

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
Find em and fix em, like how they did it back in the 70's.

Also,
>Does your scenario stand, king of shipsluts?

>>41042912
>>41042902
NOT A SUFFICIENT ARGUMENT

>>41042967
>>Go for it - it's Hornet's style.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

We didn't make a backup plan for Hornet's style.

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>>41042972
>shrine-maiden-fags
>when obviously superior black-white witches exist

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
Remember, Hornet's our CAP platform.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
We need the range

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042998
It's not our fault her SBDs didn't hit Zuiho.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

STICK TO THE PLAN CHUMS

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
We're min-maxing to hell and back. We may lose an early strike but the sure way is the best way.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>CMANO
Ahahahahaha, beautiful

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41041304
>>41041342
>Goto has a BURNING LOVE Ringtone

Goto you gigantic fucking tsundere just bend Kongo over your desk already

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash

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>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
Recon is more important than getting the first strike in, and with just three carrier decks to work with, I don't think it's a good idea to get fancy. Did SBDs have drop tanks? That could really extend endurance and search radius.

>>41042967
>>Go for it - it's Hornet's style.

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>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41042998

Planfag If you see said carrier run her ass my way, I've been trying to construct her for a solid week and all i've gotten so far are britbong heavy cruisers and a Zuiho. I NEED MY B-25s DAMNIT!

>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

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>>41043066
>Implying they don't already fuck like rabbits and he isn't just tsundere as hell

>>41042967
>Go for it - it's Hornet's style.
Because shit will happen.

>>41042967
>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.
We have a plan for a reason.

>>41042960
Order 227 would say otherwise. Russia had penal battalions filled with deserters and shit that they forced into service against the Germans. It's not hollywood bullshit completely.

>>41043063

>Stick with the plan - find, then smash

Also I am fading here, so I guess no stories after planefag's done. Sorry guys. Maybe Wednesday or sommat.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

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>>41043120

Entirely plausible.

>>41042967
>Go for it - it's Hornet's style.

>>41042967
>>Stick with the plan - find, then smash.

>>41043066
I'm betting more than Kongou forced the ringtone on Goto or changed it herself.

He should still bend Kongou over the desk during night battle though.

>>41042967

Note: THIS IS YOUR BATTLEFIELD.

Chichi-Jima airfield (the marked one) is the only airfield that I could find on Google Maps in the Bonin islands - not even suitable as an emergency strip for most fighters. It's at the center of the Bonin Island chain. The blue square in Japan is Yokota airbase (about 450ish NM north of the AO,) the one off to the left is Kaneda AFB, Okinawa, (about 800nm) and the one waaay down south is Anderson AFB at Guam (same.)

Yokotoa has P-8s ready to rock and a fairly short distance away. JSDF F-2s are currently sortieing to meet a tanker halfway between Japan and the Bonin islands, but their loiter time will still be fairly limited - but at least they'll get there a lot faster than the shipgirl's birds would.

Land-based airpower can't reach the probable enemy location (which is anywhere east within WWII aircraft strike radius; around 250-300nm if you push it) without tankers staged far forward enough to be at risk, and even then they'll be in STRIKE range, not loiter/CAP range. What do Super Hornets and Corgis have in common? Short little legs. The F-35 is Bad, they said. The F-35 was a Mistake, they said. There ARE four F-22s at Kaneda, but... that's 1/3 of a squadron. Alas, alack.

Your forces are about 90NM north of Chichi-Jima. The enemy is anywhere within 300nm to the east.

>>41043161
source on this?

>>41043093
One of these days she'd have a fairy with a cane.

>>41043203

Literally right there on the fucking image, man.

VOTES CALLED, WRITING

>>41042632
Source on this? Saucenao is being useless as usual.

>>41043203
I made sure to translate even the credits, dude.

>>41042967
>GO FOR IT

First strike, AND occupies enemy cap.

We NEED both, ASAP.

>>41043131
>Russia had penal battalions filled with deserters and shit that they forced into service against the Germans.
Yes, and the image of Commissars sitting behind them with Machineguns ready to mow them down if they ran is an utter fabrication.

Do you know how penal battalions *actually* operated? They were a rotation. You served a time in them, and then were rotated back to your proper unit with no further mark on your record.

Yes, they were often given harder missions. No, they were not, in general, used as suicide shock troops, run into the waiting bayonets of the enemy.

Those penal battalions that were supposedly run through minefields to clear them? Nope. They were sent in before the attack under the cover of darkness to clear them the proper way - with tools and care. Yeah, they took casualties doing it - pretty much every unit assigned to mine duty did.

Penal Battalions existed, yes, but the common perception of them is pretty much 99% hollywood.

>>41043193

Or its the most irritating thing to him. Hence ringtone. Since he'll definitely get up.

>>41043195
Good to know

>>41043161
oh god that doujin.

>>41043195
Anybody know how much fuel F-22s would burn loitering at 50-60,000 feet, where they'd be (to my knowledge) effectively immune to WWII aircraft and AAA?

Might also be able to dip down to 40,000 feet or so, which, as I understand, was at the upper limit, and generally would require a WWII aircraft to burn a lot of fuel even if it could make it to 40,000 feet.

>>41043249
>99% hollywood
as is everything wrong ever

>>41043195

Can we use the P-8 as a long range strike package? What kind of engagement range can we expect on Abyssals with the Slammers?

>>41043195
F-35 a shit

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>>41043195
>it's 2018
>F-35s aren't at the state where F-22's are now
>F-22's aren't all over the place

>>41043195
>The F-35 is Bad, they said. The F-35 was a Mistake, they said.
Doesn't the F-35 have shorter legs than the Super Hornet, though?