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>>41319771
Could we get a quick synopsis of what's still needed, rules-wise, from last thread? I recall most of the actual binary binding and MIND RAPE mind control being settled upon because it was either already wholesale available in Bubblegum Crisis or just needed a little tweaking.

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>>41319917

Sure.

Most of the stuff we have so far is in the Rules doc; there's some WIP notes at the bottom.

Biggest thing right now I'd say is getting the Frame creation system down; the way I kinda have it mocked up so far is pretty free-form, basically taking two tables and just mapping them where you want them to go; we'd just supply the tables with parts and their Armor/SDP vals.

There's kinda an example in the Frame Sheet to see how it's look. The only thing I'm wondering is if we should go to 18 unit hit tables (3d6, as per the updated Fuzion rules), or 10 (1d10, as the old style used in the first BGC.) Basically, most things in the system use 3d6 as the standard, so I'm leaning towards that.

Other than that, we need:
>flesh out the Human/Cybot Binary Bond mechanics. The framework is there, but for such a central mechanic it needs a little more risk/reward- the Highest stat/skill rule works at low levels, but a high-level Cybot will always have higher stat poinys a human in stat points unless you're intentionally minmaxing. I think the Endurance rule adds a lot, and Crits damaging humans when linked could work too.

>Content! Weapons, skills, Frames, etc. Even ideas we can plug stats into later work.

>we could work on a simple conversion for the MotorWarz stuff over to the Frame format we decide on. It's a little different, but if we do that, that's an entire book of ready-made vehicles for people.

>world building stuff, preferably using those questions from last THREAD to get some fleshed-out details we can just drop into the setting for flavor.

>a simplified character sheet to combine Frame mechanics and Skills/Stats to use for monsters and enemies- primarily so GMs don't have to use two sheets for every minor enemy.


Other than that, people just reading over stuff and adding stuff is the biggest thing. And anyone can edit the documents, too! You might just want to mark your edits for other people to look over, but anyone can tweak, add, or edit.

>>41320180

Working on Frame Generation now in the Rules doc

So what about the Good Guy Cybots? The ones working against the empire?

>>41322264

I'd say they operate as civilian vehicles, or maybe under the guise of shadow companies, doing ops to monitor or destabilize government ops. Maybe openly launching attacks on ships transporting humans offworld to rescue them.

As for motivations, they're probably a part of the Cybot race that opened up to the galactic community at large, perhaps even (accidentally) overtaking them as peacekeepers.

Basically space america,.

>>41323152
America was founded by terrorists too.

WST is dead, btw

>>41323284

...uh, okay?

>>41323366
Well, this project was started by them and all . I thought you'd like to know

>>41323152
Would these most likely be native manufactured Cybots?

Also, Dolores a best!

>>41323756

There definitely could be. Or converted Empire citizens. I was thinking that their HQ would be outside our Partition though; they've probably been fighting the empire since they split off in the first place

And yes, she's a qt

>>41323267
>>41323284

>shitposting spreading to other threads

"Defending /tg/" my ass

>>41324041
I was just informing you guys and left it at that, geez. And I only did it because somebody else did the same thing in a previous thread.

Sorry for trying to be helpful

>>41323284
Nah, it was just a particularly persistent shitposter this weekend.

>>41324107

>shitposting
>helpful

Nah your a cunt

So far as Frames go, I think I've got how we can do them:

>provide altmode tables, each with 10 Hit Locations
>choose two altmodes, and pair each part of one mode to a part on the other
>as in the BGC EX Hardsuit creation rules, players roll 10d10 on a table to get points for Armor. They then choose which of their parts to assign each roll to. Repeat with SDP.
>You can also allow straight point-buy; they use a conversion of 1OP=2KD, 1OP=5SDP; we can just multiply those by trn, as their meant for single-Hit Location targets.
>Buy Functions and Subsystems; Functions are generally going to be inherent to modes (simply adding their value to OP cost)


As a bonus, these rules are extremely modular: you could potentially create a Car/Helicopter Cybot, a Dinosaur/Tank, or a Humanoid/Humanoid, if you wanted.

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>>41324107
>>41323284
Helpful would have been providing new content, suggestions for gameplay considerations, or even just lorefagging.

In short, you're not being helpful.

Speaking of, >>41323152, any particular inspirations that came to (your) mind? Might be up for more writing and providing setpieces.

>>41324851
>we can just multiply those by TEN, as THEY'RE

>>41324851
Yeah, looking at the hardsuit rules, you pretty much can modularly add on to robots pretty dynamically. Ties right back into our idea of 'size denotes station' and 'size means space means processing power.'

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>>41324859

Something like Volfogg from GGG, I guess; for the early part of the series, a strange police man drives his car around, chasing criminals around the main characters... Until eventually the cop comes to save them, turns out to be a hologram, and the car transforms into a robot ninja.

They're more about disguise and subterfuge. Could even have them parallel IRL men in black; strange humans and/or vehicles that claim to be government agents, but then disappear, and the government has no knowledge of them.

Just think: "black helicopters" really COULD be out there.


Not sure how well X-Files spookery could parallel with BURNING JUSTICE inherent in heroic mechs though.

>>41325021
Small scale mecha-robotics and very intimate (not like that) working relations with human spooks so smaller Cybots work together with humans for rapid deployment and retreating?

Admittedly, that's kinda what you went with with ninja robot. Size it down to motorcycles and it might be more feasible logistically.

>>41324886

Plus total permitted armor/stat boosts/etc. could be a limitation of size classes as well.

One thing I'm trying to do is make sure more complex rules are optional, like Endurance/Energy and stuff. For instance, as an optional rule, there are rules in BGC: Before and After for Cyberware. For Cybots, we could use the "humanity" rules for Subsystems; call it "Capacity" or something, to limit Subsystem getting piled on.

>>41325021
Just popping in to say I support whatever this is because Volfogg was the shit and my favorite GGG robot.

>>41325127

>BIGGU
>VOLFOGGUU!!

>>41325090

Totally. Just people working outside the boundaries of the corrupt system, trying to do good where they can, while remaining invisible.

Maybe impersonating Imperial officers to question people and stuff.

So if you were playing as an Imperial, you'd have lots of cop missions or battles, RUST would have big battles or Shadowrun style ops, and the good guys would be spy and espionage stuff.

>>41325127

>forgetting best girls

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ANpcimIOgac

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>>41325117
I'll be keeping an eye out for those, then, because it'll totes be a first time I'll be running BGC, and the less I have players hanging up on rules inherent to BGC (doubtful, they played but hated GURPS-based games due to the chargen though that could just be simple unfamiliarity speaking), the more I can just see how the game setting and the houseruling clicks.

You're a champ, rules-anon.

>>41325296

Remember, the BGC:EX manual includes updates for the BGC core rulebook to bring it more in-line with the Fuzion Core Rulebook.

All three, plus others, are in the Drive.

>>41325296

Holy shit why is Strongarm so hot jesus christ

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>>41325372
Way ahead of you, anon. Cheers.

Who wants to make some altmodes?

Just take a vehicle, a size class, and add ten hit Locations. Simple!

Humanoid Robot (Small)
Head
R Arm
L Arm
Torso
Torso
Torso
Torso
R Leg
L Leg
[blank]
Functions: Rider (x1)

You can also add modifiers, like x2 if you want to include two or more of a part in one block (half the HP makes that part disabled,) or 0KD, if it has no armor plating (like rubber wheels.) Stuff like this makes you have to strategically place your Armor/SDP points- it'd be a waste to put tons of armor plating on your Wheels/Arms parts if your Wheels are unarmormored in one mode.

You can also make notes on inherent Functions you think it should have, like a tank having armor bonuses or motorbikes with Movement bonuses, or even a built in weapon like a tank's gun or dragon's fire breath. We can stat them out properly later.

>>41325805

Another example:

Motorcycle (Small)
Chassis (Eight Units; if I include them all my post gets flagged as spam)
F Wheel (0KD)
F Wheel (0KD)
B Wheel (0KD)
B Wheel (0KD)
Functions: Rider x1

>>41325805

As for Size Classes, think:

>Small=Motorbike
>Medium=Cars, Lions, Vans
>Large=Trucks, APCs
>Very Large=Planes, Tanks
>Huge=Spaceships
>Massive=Battleships


We can tweak and fix this, or assign weight guidelines. Maybe some kind of special/sci-fi/Latin names for these since they're also social classes

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>>41325805
>>41325881
>>41326147
Just the ten hit locations? Honestly, just call out a vehicle and you can basically assign them dynamically. Though that reminds me, shouldn't a driver compartment/cockpit then not be a consideration?

Trucks might have more hit locations over their wheels versus an APC, while APCs might have more structure over wheels.

...Actually I was about to type up
>1-6 chassis
>7-8 front wheels (2)
>9-10 back wheels (4)
for the truck but it technically follows the same division as the standard BGC Silkywagon.

God damn I am already loving this system.

>>41326511

Actually there's a rule for that; the ten locations are rolled for on a 2d12; a natural 12 is hits a critical weak point and ignores armor; I figured when a human is inside, then they get hit.

And yeah, you could do it on-the-fly; I figured pre-alloting them would let us pre-assign Features to individual vehicles, and balance the armor/wheels thing.

Perhaps taking something like an unarmored wheels trait could serve as a Complication to counterbalance OP costs?

Also, someone was nice enough to archive our thread for us. Shame they didn't use the right tags so it'll be impossible to find.

I've


Also

>>41326702

>I've
>also

Well that wasn't supposed to be there.

Can't delete it on mobile either. Fuck.

>>41326702

>Also, someone was nice enough to archive our thread for us.

Sigh. Of course they did.

God damn it. /tg/ has gone to hell. Apparently not even homebrew is allowed on /tg/ anymore.

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Any more art?

Drawings, doodles, logos, insignias?

>>41327358
Fun times. Never ever find it by tags. Ever.

I remember /tg/ not being shit about homebrew or settings.

>>41327995
At the moment? Not particularly, but could look at some simple RUST designs before we spook it up per the idea of >>41325021

Skulls are blasé but I can see a torn apart >>41327995 logo being feasible. Might be too orky as well, tho.

>>41328593

Yeah a less stormtroopery logo for the good guys would be cool. Maybe more cop badge like.

I can't think of a good one for RUST though.

>>41326147
How about "Apex" for the Massives, and "Zenith" for planet-sized bosses like the Grand Mal?

>>41327358
Random anon from suptg here asking the uncomfortable question:

Well, IS it an ERP homebrew about transforming giantess vore robots?

>>41328939

No. It is about giant transforming robots with pilots.

I knew this would fucking happen.

>>41328939
Nope. It's about giant transforming robots with human pilots, hardware vs. wetware, and flexible setting stemming from the idea 'why the fuck aren't we murdered yet when an alien species comes across our dumb planet.'

Report Hide Ignore.

>>41319771
Russian-native-speaking anon just walking by

Why Matryoshka Empire?
It's a hilariously stupid name even by the standards of saturday morning cartoon villains. And I don't see anything working like a мaтpёшкa in your setting.

>>41329567
'Guys Crammed In Cybots' is even worse.

>>41329505
Basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4IqLfzHwg

Human in robot in robot. Also, stupidly dumb 80s/90s vibe which kinda clicked with me.

>>41329642
>Human in robot in robot
Ah.

Okay, than it makes sense.

>>41329505
>>41329642

It came from

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrioshka_brain

>>41329744
That too when we started to find additional uses of the term in sci-fi. Which basically made us settle on the theme.

bump

>>41328799
>>41328593

>RUST

a broken gear maybe?


I've also been converting some of the Cyberware and hardsuit modules from BGC into Subsystems.

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>>41328593

What about something as simple as this? Since they highjack them, they could scrape off or paint over their insignia to deface it

>>41331514

Could work I guess. Or something drawn around it, like the Cobra-Decepticon combo

>>41328593
>>41328799
>>41331514
>>41332231

What about the monster guys? Any development on them yet?

I remember there was some beast stuff last thread. And does the ruleset let me make Beast Wars guys, or is it only vehicles?

>>41333096
You mean the actual monster Cybots? Nothing really yet; just that they're a super conservative bunch of weirdos.

As for beasts, yes, you can make them easily. You could also do triple changers, if we balance the costs out. Maybe even Transmetals.

>>41334103

>triple changers

now we're talking

>>41325805

Alright, I've got one for you

>Train engine
>1-5 engine
>6-7 right treads
>8-9 left treads
>10 cabin
>features are passengers × 2, and a strength bonus

I've been looking at statting damage. It seems pretty simple.

Basically, everything in Fuzion is based on 3d6's or 1d10- the idea is that the average roll of d6 is 3.5 (3.5 x 3 = 10.5.)

Damage is in DC; the number of die you roll per attack. Fists are 1d6 + STR, for instance.

Doing a little math, the 2DC Knife deals ~7 Hits of damage average, not counting armor or STR. A 6 DC Colt Pistol deals ~18. So from that, we can scale damage for other things.

And from the Hardsuit tables (which I assumed we could pull Armor/SDP values from,) the average damage a part of a Small Cybot can take is around 42.5 x 2.

This should help us scale stuff. Basically, how much stronger is x than a pistol or Knife? How much damage could a basic Cybot take?

>>41337199

Nice!

based rulesguy

>>41336122
Now do a space shuttle and >>41334985 can make spacebus

>>41337572
>>41337545
Was this a stealth bump or something? This thread has been just rules discussion and a bit about the factions.

Speaking of which, can I get tl;dr on all the groups?

>>41339498

Seriously, wake me up when fall hits.

>>41339498
At the moment, it's pretty barebones, but let's see what we have so far.

>Matryoshkan Empire
The Cybot invaders that conquered Earth per the Matryos doctrine of expansion. The only reason they stopped pretty much wrecking our shit is when they realized they found out humans and Cybots can be linked together into their ancient structures for the process of binary bonding. So the wiping out stopped in favour of maintaining the human population and ruling them via a totalitarian statist government, both pacifying and subjugating the human population. Most of the Imperials just do their day-to-day job, either not giving much a shit about doctrine or even about human subjugation because they've started to grow up with or otherwise get accustomed to humanity. The further up the ranks of the Imperial meritocracy you go, however, the more detached or outright selfishly inconsiderate the Imperial machine becomes with regards to humanity (or most other colony worlds for that matter, I would reckon).

>RUST
Human terrorist organization getting their followers from all walks of life - the simply disenfranchised to the earliest test subjects or last people surviving or otherwise avoiding wholesale population deportation. Their greatest asset comes from their ideological leader's ability to control Cybots. This has expanded into their own technological prowess, basically rigging lobotomised or killed Cybots (called husks) with surveillance and control systems to operate them from the inside without the wetware/hardware interface required for binary bonding. Anything from general rioting to disruptions of information and logistics to outright highly militarised terror attacks all fall under their purview.

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>>41339498
>>41341736
>SPACE COPS
Not really fleshed out. Which sucks, because rather than Imperial jobbers, stormtroopers, or peacekeepers, they kinda-sorta are an outside Cybot jursidictive force actually interested in keeping peace and the general well-being of the fringes of the Empire.

...Which is about all we got at the moment, because seriously, how best to flesh them out? Black ops on Earth, technically very much being in their legal right, but still very much opposing the more blatant villainy bullshit the Empire enacts on colony worlds (ie. Earth)?

>>41341631
While it's shitty you got a troll or two thanks to your tenuous connection to WST, it's pretty pompous to blame everything on them. The fact that other worldbuilding threads are alive and thriving on the board tells me that people just plain aren't interested in your project.

And I can see why. The setting is pretty uninspired "asshole tyrannical empire vs freedom loving terrorists" with the twist being "we put girls in power armor and then put them in giant robot girls". There's just not really much going on there to draw people in.

Also, if you don't want people to confuse you for a smut thing you probably shouldn't be posting cropped porn or waifufag about how "Dolores so kawaii uguu~". That's like wearing slutty clothes on a street corner and getting offended when someone thinks you're a prostitute.

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>>41342026

>concern trolling

>>41342060
That implies I care enough to even pretend to be concerned when all I was doing was giving my shitty two cents worth. These threads can rot or flourish and it's no skin off my back either way.

However, as an outsider, I can tell you that it all sounds boring as fuck. Maybe that makes me a troll, but I don't give a shit.

>>41342026
>>41342076
Nah, that's cool, can see that shit not being too engrossing or engaging. Suppose it's a bit more than just 'oh god, we KISS now' but I can see the connection being made there, too. For what it's worth, you're honest, you're cool about it, and it's appreciated.

Still gonna get this shit hosted next weekend with the mates for a one-shot and see what the obvious problems are with regards to rules or just general play in Fuzion/Bubblegum Crisis.

>Dolores so kawaii uguu~
Probably a shitposter if they're not adding actual feedback or any kind of a suggestion to improve on.

>cropped porn
What?

>>41342544
>What?
He's probably referring to >>41326511

>>41342573
>google for reaction images
>yep, this works
>it's what?
>fuck

>>41337545
>>41337572
>>41342026
>>41342076
Oh boy.

>>41341773
I sorta saw them as non-Empire Cybots, actively working against the empire at large. Sort of another nation of Cybots, who've been trying to intercede in or cut off the expansion doctrines.

>>41341736
Sort of ironic that ideas guys are the thing we need instead of crunch stuff

>>41342709
I only went by what I remembered, non-Empire Cybots works better, probably.

>>41342727

Either way really. I see them as existing to be a less ambiguous faction compared to the empire; empire players are still feeding into the hegemony, and are expected to do the empire's dirty work in addition to actual peacekeeping.

>>41342026
>>41342076
Helpful posts would explain WHY you don't like it, and offer suggestions on improvement.


Other than that though, what about Cybot energy? What do they eat or fuel up with?

>>41342871
>energy

Mostly operating as machines requiring actual fuel and/or energy, ranging from solar-electrical power to running on hydrogen to full-on just guzzling fuel (petrol, bio-alcohols?) for their motor components.

Maybe?

>>41342871
>>41342928

For what it's worth the Transformers' energy source could basically be synthesized from anything, ranging from biological tissue to oil.

Maybe it could work like that? A synthetic fuel extracted from other fuels? Or perhaps it is created through an energy-intensive process?

I do have to wonder where their resources come from, however. I can see Earth getting stripped bare of minerals and fuel pretty fast. Perhaps there's a huge galactic shipping line or supply network for the empire, feeding the colony worlds. You could even have space-trucker Cybots.

So one thing I was thinking about was how construction and actual cities are constructed on occupied Earth.

Basically there's a few hitch points:

For one, Cybots are two things at once, so construction would take both into account. It's an alien concept for us, but the way I see it, both forms are considered "natural" and "at rest," with transformation being like flexing a muscle. What this means is that Cybot would try to always build to take both modes into account. So many shops and businesses are could be structured as drive-throughs, roads would be built in as many places as possible, most surfaces would be paved or concreted over for better mobility. Taller buildings could be constructed like Ziggurats to accommodate fliers inside the cities, since tall close-together buildings would provide them little to no space for their wings.

Most buildings, I'd assume, are squat and wide garagelike structures to accommodate as much floorspace as possible, since it's a world of giants, maybe being a few stories high for each floor. Probably structured like garages too, with ramps going up every floor- imagibe somebody being late for a meeting upstairs, speeding, and causing a three-car pileup on the rampway.

Human buildings in many urban areas would be similar to permit Cybot access, wirh smaller interior structures the size of human buildings. Basically, your office or apartment building would be contained inside an outer shell building. The interiors of these buildings could have "weather" systems for spraying down water (for cleaning), oxygen scrubbers, etc.

Cybot homes, I'd imagine, are like lines of home parking garages or jet hangers, perhaps simply being single large rooms with a door that raises and lowers. Assuming they sleep in their altmode, I can see their being some form of table/bar, perhaps shelves for personal items and equipment, and perhaps some place for sitting and entertaining. Something like Star Trek suites, but wider and flatter.

Thoughts?

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>>41343194

In addition, there is probably a heavy amount of machinery and systems designed to control and maintain earth's climate. Depending on whether the Cybots generate pollution, there could be massive oxygen scrubbing towers cleaning the air- perhaps even doing oxygen conversion if there are no plants available.

Perhaps,since we've established the technology is within their capabilities, they are in the process of building a sphere around the earth, giving them another strata of surface area. Since it's only been a couple generarations they haven't gone all the way yet, but it could be an ongoing project. So in places, perhaps out in the horizon, huge support structures have been raised and they are slowly building outwards, closing off the sky. Construction or structural mishaps like plates falling down could happen occssionally, too.

Perhaps the climate control is only localized, leaving the rest of the planet barren- just blasted desert land, with no Rainmakers to feed into it.

>>41342544
>>41342026
I'm the person who wrote about Dolores after asking about the Space Cops. It was the only mention of her in the whole thread by a /m/achinist, and if that was enough to trigger someone, then I'm not sorry. She's a character from an obscure OVA to a niche series that I highly recommend.

It was brought up that the Cybots are terraforming Earth, but I want to ask why they are doing that. If they do not have to breathe oxygen, why not just set up on the moon and send in a few peacekeepers. I can see the need for a couple of giant buildings, but why kill the Earth?

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>>41341736

>The further up the ranks of the Imperial meritocracy you go, however, the more detached or outright selfishly inconsiderate the Imperial machine becomes with regards to humanity (or most other colony worlds for that matter, I would reckon).

That's the best way I've seen that put.

>>41343194
>>41343716
Something like this?

>>41343990
Don't worry about it. It's just a particularly dedicated troll that's been fucking with everyone all weekend.

And Delores is so cute there's no way anyone could blame you.

As for terraforming, I can see a few reasons: it could be simply to make Earth more comfortable or useful to them. After all, they have very different needs than humans, even down to locomotion. Plus there's space.

Maybe they aren't really "terraforming" per se. It could just be the way they build having adverse effects, and the fact that so many live here pushing the earth's ecosystem out, and their government system enforcing housing rules and stuff.

So early into their occupation they could have built one monument building and some political centers, then as new government projects came up they were built to Cybot specs, then Cybots started moving and having services spring up to serve rhem- eventually the scales tip and it's a machine world, not an organic one.

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>>41319771
>dolores

>>41343990

Maybe it's because of something they need on our world, like stripping off resources. They just need us, not the rest of the ecosystem.

http://www.pastebin.com/qutib0wr

I think I've nearly finished the Frame Creation rules.

>>41346184

This is awesome!

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>>41346184

So wait, is it done?

>mfw

>>41342076

>That implies I care enough to even

And yet your posting, hence Concern Trolling asshat

>>41347058
Anon, I don't think you know what concern trolling is. Concern trolling is where you constantly wheedle someone into crashing and burning by pretending to be concerned about the state of their thread.

Saying "maybe you just suck and here's why you might suck" might be trolling, but it ain't concern trolling.

>>41346978

Well, no, but the major systems are.

Here's what we still need:
>statting out items and their costs and stats, like weapons. A lot can just be directly pulled from other sources though with no translation.
>still need to finalize the Bond Uplink rules, including benefits and penalties.
>enemy rules. They're pretty simple though, and should just take a minute

But yeah, that's all for the systems. Now it's just lore and worldbuilding. What we need are ideas guys and writers now.

>>41347058
Just report and ignore.

>>41347181
>criticism is trolling
Hence why you'll never have more than like 3 contributors

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>>41347181

ty rulesguy

>>41325881

I can make some beast formers for you:

Beetle (medium)
1 head
2 legs x3
7 body
And you could put weapons on the heads like jaws or a gun


Rhino (large)
2 head
2 legs x2
6 body

Stingray (very large)
1 head
1 body
4 r wing
4 l wing
(Like Depth Charge)

Rat (small)
1 head
2 legs x2
2 torso
4 body
1 tail

>>41348938

Nice- I could see the Manta being a flier.

The Rat's tail being a damage point seems odd though. I think there's actually a Fuzion rule for locational damage having effects. Lemme go check.

>>41348938
>>41349244

Ok, I was wrong. The only things that matter for damage effects are locomotion parts and arms. Torso and Head could conceivably be insta-kills at 0 SDP, but I feel like that'd sort of negate the purpose of Hit. Perhaps just for the head?

>>41349642

The idea of an insta-kill makes my balls shoot into my chest in terror.

Is that an optional rule?

>>41350261

Yeah, it's optional.

I also think I've got Uplinking worked out:
>requires an action to uplink
>does the skill combo thing, and adds +1 to each Combat and Mental skill for each level in Uplink
>can use Rest to restore Cybot Stun with Human Endurance.
>every round both characters must pass a Will + concentration or uplink vs an appropriate Universal Target Number (in ruleset)
>if either fails the link is broken

>>41351212

Looks good. So its just a standard number? What if you had some kind of scaling difficulty, like the amount of time they're connected makes it harder to stay?

>>41351911

Yeah, its a table in the rulebook. I assumed it's just be GM choice; I can't think of a fairer thing to have them roll against since there's no opposing stat or difficulty.

I thought about having a guideline to establish it as a 0 difficulty, and increase it each round of Combat. Or maybe increase each round they take damage in combat? I feel like this part'll come down to testing though.

But short of codifying items and shit we've now got a fully playable game I think.

>>41352832
>I thought about having a guideline to establish it as a 0 difficulty, and increase it each round of Combat. Or maybe increase each round they take damage in combat?

I guess that sounds alright.

>>41352832
>>41351212
>>41349642
>>41348938
>>41347181

>this crunch

fuck yeah anons. How about your fluff?

>>41355246

Not much, honestly. A rundown is:
>>41319771
>>41341736

Basically Cyberpunk dystopian Transformers. We've got like three good short stories in the Drive in the OP you can check out, though, that deal with the setting from different sides.

>>41349642
>>41349642
>OHKO

I can see this ending very badly

Bump for a pretty cool thread.

RUST done blew up my tractor. I told 'em it weren't a robut, they ain't listen to me.

I demand government compensation.

>>41357563
Shielding advantages and active measures of defense can be a consideration? We -are- technically dealing with mobile robots/living powersuits.

>>41365217

True, there are already E-Shields and Forcefields started out we can plug in in; they ignore any damage of any DC beneath their strength.

It's funny that what we've made is basically a simplified Mekton Zeta (Fuzion's notoriously complicated Mechs system.)

So I was thinking about our setting, and was wondering how government was structured and worked. I know we decided that it was "totalitarian government," but to what degree?

Thinking back to the class system thing we thought of, we know that humans are the bottom rung, with only humans paired with Cybots being considered citizens, but to what degree? Being able to run for office? Vote? That would mean there were political stations and choice.

I can see it being a really beurocratic, where you always have a direct superior feeding back into the government- even independent businesses are under the umbrella of a government division. Everybody's got a boss at their neck, and every boss is looking to shove stuff off on people, and blaming their boss if somebody below complains.

So maybe you've got Block Governments for regions of towns, then district governments, cities, then provinces, before feeding back into Earthgov, who are under the Empire. Other planets probably work the same way.

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Hey, I had a question. What's their anatomy like? The face specifically. Transformers always look like their faces are made of liquid metal or something, but do yours have plates and actuators in the face?

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>>41366715
I would imagine actuators to be a big thing, yes. They're still machines, even if their processing components are biologically-inspired hardware blurring the lines with wetware. Otherwise, hinges, pistons, plates and the works.

Maybe only in the recent generation or so did the Cybots start taking after their human subjugated population to mold faces for themselves to facilitate their day-to-day interaction with the Zeroes and Zero-Ones.

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>>41366858

I can see that. So less-modern Cybots would have faceplates, visors, monoeyes, and other less Humanoid faces, while the newer ones would be more Humanoid. Maybe they could use some kind of polymer skin attached to small actuators, like modern animatronics.

>>41367077

>that face

Time to have nightmares

Rulesguy here. I'm adding Combiner rules now- Symmetrical Docking and Scramble city types should be pretty easy to make if what I'm thinking pans out.

As always, everything's in the Drive as I update it, and anyone else can feel free to edit it as they see fit.

>>41367920

>combiners
>SYMMETRICAL DOOOCCCKK-ING!

OH FUCK

>>41367920
How the hell will that work

>>41368821
Well, as far as stats, I've got it so that you generate your Gestalt before playing - so you don't have to calculate shit on the fly.

As for who controls it, you could let the torso player do it, or rotate control each round to let everyone get a turn to play. It's depend on the GM.

So has anybody compiled the worldbuilding stuff for this yet?

>>41370077
Nah, not yet. Just a smattering here and there of stuff.

Hopefully we can get that started soon though; once we've got that we can start compiling the actual rulebook.

>>41370819

Word. I'll try typing some stuff out

>>41370819

So what else do you need?

Loving the thread so far guys, but I too would like >>41370077 in case I want to run a game.

Would it be possible for me to play an old man Cybot living off the grid with a winnebago altmode?

Maybe he's a former scientist or soldier or something. I'm not sure how combative this can get eventually.

>>41375927
I dunno, I like the idea of playing off the grid, rebel kinda characters.

Maybe a team of them that use stealth and disguises and stuff to combat and steal from the Empire? Kinda like Shadowrun but with giant robutts.

Cybot seems a bit generic. Is that the human name for them like Transformers or do they have their own name?

Too bad Cybertron is taken though. Cybertron, Cybertronian. Sounds cool.

>>41366858
>>41366715

Not liquid metal but I always imagined Transformer faces to be a soft, movable material. I mean, not everything on them and in them is going to be made of metal. There's going to be tons of flexible materials.

>>41377220
We need a gestalt team called Nerdicons that form Nerdicus.

>"Nerdicons, combine to form Nerdicus!"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaxV0nSTz68

This is what I want from this game.

Aww yeah, speaking of gestalts I was going over my idea for my winnebago old guy bot and thought maybe he could be the chest piece for a gestalt team.

>Gruff older bot, a former soldier of the empire. Kind of a combination of Kup and Optimus Prime with a little Big Convoy
>He's got one of those older faces so it's less human with a mouth plate
>Living off the grid for years, no one really knows who he is
>During the story he reunites with his former gestalt teammates, a group of warbuddies (not sure what forms they'd take if they were other players but if npc's it might be like old pick up trucks, motorcycles or something) and they form their combined form for the first time
>Combined forms transformation is so radical he takes on the form of the old Cybot gestalt war hero (A bit Voltron esque) people have heard stories of and everyone realizes who the old bot and his team are
>A bit rusty and out of practice so they have to learn to coordinate as a team again

Was also thinking maybe he used to have a human partner who died and that's why he left or maybe he left but his human partner stayed and bonded with a new bot and the old bot eventually bonds with a new human partner and they face off against each other, old friends now enemies.

>>41379651
I'm confused and terrified by that image.

>>41379741
from the zone of the enders anime

>>41379757
Yeah, I know. I even have it downloaded... somewhere, but haven't seen it yet.

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>>41379853
>literal cockpit

>>41379884
never played ZoE?

>>41379921
Can't say I have.

>>41380498
Well there are literal cockpits in the games. Pretty sure the reason is because the person in charge thought it was funny too.

>>41380571
And when they go into flight mode, the cockpit tilts up, so that when the robot flies superman style, it's pointing forwards.

It's silly, but fuck it, the games are nice and at least it's different.

>>41381916
The real reason orbital frames are designed like that is quite literally lol, COCKpits, get it? According to the guy that did the designs.

>>41381991
They're Hideo Kojima games too

>>41382650
What's wrong with any of that? It's within the rule of cool and fits the vibe of the game.

>>41382923
Anon, I don't think this game is for you if that bothers you.

There are old men robots and female robots with boob plates in the making already.

>>41382650
>Square cube law says hello

Yes anon, we know. In fact, at this point probably everyone on /tg/ knows, since you can not have a thread about walking machines above human size without some retard bursting in and going "Hay guize, square cube law! I is smart, right?"

>>41383078
Don't even try having a thread with blue space babes or someone will jump in on how they should be esoteric space fart clouds that communicate with light and exist on five different planes of existence at the same time.

Fuck your realism I want awesome shit.

>>41325021
This is originally what I THOUGHT Transformers was from just hearing the premise. HAHAHA NOPE

You can make the spooky scarey work with hotblood by going for a Batman-esque hidden protector sort of vibe. They protect the world behind the scenes, anonymously because it is their duty and what must be done.

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>>41382943
>There are old men robots and female robots with boob plates in the making already.

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>>41383123
Kind of amazing how you go from 790x4096 to literally half that. But should be available for viewing on the Google Drive, perfectly legible.

Trying to come up with some Space Cop scenario for worldbuilding/writefagging, but I'm coming up dry. Probably because I don't play the high stakes, low visibility gameplay of Shadowrun often enough, which some folks seem to think of when going 'spook, covert ops.'

Wait, are people getting mad about a mecha series dating all the way back to the PS2 era?

Is there a naming scheme for the Cybots? The way they are described makes it sound like they'd be named for their jobs, that a John Deere tractor has a more individual name than they do.

>>41391139
Don't think anything like that has been made yet or brought up yet.

>>41391155
I just want to make sure, since it's a whole empire and stuff, that most are purpose made for certain jobs. They do have their own individuality, but they are assigned specific modes and can't really change them easily.

>>41391201
No, a promotion/moving up in hierarchy comes with size upgrade for the cybots. The bigger they are the higher ranking they are.

>>41391139
I absolutely love ZoE so I kinda hate seeing you rape it and co-opt it's beautiful and unique visual design for something so incredibly uninspired like this, but I'm not the spammer.

>>41391902
You guys seem pretty dead set in your ways and I'd only be satisfied with a ground up overhaul of everything, so I'll pass.

>>41391950
I'd still be interested in hearing your ideas, might inspire something

>>41391950
>You guys seem pretty dead set in your ways

Huh?

>I'd only be satisfied with a ground up overhaul of everything

Starting with...?

>>41391965
>>41391971
I dunno, the last guy who criticized your work yall screeched at him for being a "concern troll" and I'm such a lazy cunt that I'm not gonna bother typing out a multi-post worldbuilding concept if it's just going to fall on deaf ears

>>41392065
Well, if you're gonna pussyfoot around this shit it's never gonna happen.
I'm personally planning on silently homebrewing a Cortex-based game to work with.

>>41391863
>seeing you rape it and co-opt it's beautiful and unique visual design

That's some massive fucking hyperbole for "some guy posted a couple of ZoE pics upthread."


>>41392065
>for being a "concern troll"

That's because he was. Consider that he said "it's pretty pompous to blame everything on them," when the "everything" in question was A) someone applied troll tags to the archive and B) a couple trolls posted dumb shit.
You and him have a lot in common since you both seem to like twisting shit around in bizarre ways.

>>41391950
>>41392065

lol

>>41392200

It's the system that the crooks at Margaret Weiss production use for everything. It's not bad, at least in its later versions. It works pretty well for character-oriented vaguely narrative stuff.


>>41392241

I know, I know. But yeah, that was pretty funny.

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>>41392200
Posting PDFs of the basic idea.
Marvel Heroic Roleplaying is unbalanced as shit, but by God it's still manages to be fun to play if you're not playing with edgelords.
It's simple (and pretty shallow), but it also gives for 'universal system' and a lot more larger-than-life shit not allowed with most rules.

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>>41392293
More of it.
This isn't your number-cruncher's dream game.
It's also not class-based, or, like I said, especially good.
It holds its own for story-based stuff, and allows for more versatility at the cost of rules and crunch.

>>41392578
>Adorable
It is.
Here's Victor Steel, to put the idea into context.
One Power Set could be the machine itself, and the other could be backup or special other abilities.


Victor Steel

Affiliations
>• Solo d10
>• Buddy d6
>• Team d8

Distinctions
>• Pseudo-Psychic Maniac
>• Slave To Slaver
>• No Compromise

Power Sets

Zero-One-Zero (Elite Police Shell)
>Enhanced Senses d8, Superior Reflexes d10, Superior Strength d10, Superior Durability d10, Pacifier Cannon d8
>• SFX: Area Attack: Add a d6 and keep an additional effect die for each additional target.
>• SFX: One Step Ahead: Spend a die from Doom to ignore Physical Stress or Trauma.
>• SFX: Counterattack: On a reaction against a Physical attack action, spend a die from Doom to inflict Physical Stress with your effect die.
>• SFX: Overload: Step up or double Pacifier Cannon for one action, then shutdown Pacifier Cannon. Spend a die from Doom to recover.
>• Limit: Gear: Add a d6 to Doom and shutdown Zero-One-Zero. Spend a die from Doom to recover.
>• Limit: Damaged Systems: Shutdown any Zero-One-Zero power to gain d6 to Doom. Recover power by activating an opportunity.

End To All Machines
>Psychic Resistance d12, Mind Control d12, Telepathy d8, Technology Control d8
>• SFX: Psychic Immunity: Spend a die from Doom to ignore stress, trauma or complications from psychic attacks
>• SFX: Versatile: Split Mind Control into 2d10 or 3d8.
>• Limit: If stressed out, asleep, or unconscious, shutdown End To All Machines. Recover End To All Machines when stress is recovered or you awake. If Mental or Physical Trauma is taken, shutdown End To All Machines until trauma is recovered.
>• Limit: Exhausted: Shutdown any Master of Magnetism power to gain d6 to Doom. Recover power by activating an opportunity.

Specialties
>• Combat Master d10
>• Covert Expert d8
>• Crime Master d10
>• Menace Master d10
>• Psych Expert d8
>• Tech Master d10
>• Edge Lord d12

>>41393230
>please make Edgelord an official skill
But of course!
How else are villains supposed to make impassioned pleas to the protagonist about how their childhood was terrible and they're totally justified in being mass-murderers who enslave the minds of living, sentient beings?
I'll post it right away.

So, if you're done building sexual tension, here's the link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tpLGKl_C_TfdNTVRJRXvfmuWytvf55b_-lvNNpqna_U/edit.
I just realized that I accidentally a Magneto label in the original post.

>>41393645
>Victor 'Donut' Steel

I saw that title, chuckles.

I laughed.

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>>41393998
Go ahead.
I even have a PDF, if you want to prevent modifications.

>>41394024
>>41393645

Alright, done. Everything's sorted out in the Drive.

Thanks for contributing!

the fuck happened in here. why did a bunch of my posts get deleted too

Fucking faggot mods deleting legitimate posts

>>41394963

Forget it; they're still archived, and all the stuff's in the Drives anyway.

At least the shitposting is cleared up a little, and at least one dude got a ban.

Only thing I think was worth reposting is

> You know how megacorps in cyberpunk have lots of espionage and infighting?

>What if we had divisional backstabbing and powergrabs between empire branches? Like in Soviet Russia, ancient china, or Microsoft. Every beurocrat in every branch wants to make themselves the most relevant or push away blame onto others. That could be why insane plans like beastformers get made.

>>41394958
Modding happened.

Thanks for the rulefags. Thanks for the writefags.

>>41398332

don't rebump; just let this one fall off the board and we'll start a new one.

add stuff to the Drive until then if you want to contribute- then we'll have topics to discuss later. This thread's gonna be deleted from the archives anyway due to downvotes