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“Choppers,” you tell her. “Like the anti-sub patrols you knew, but they've got hydrophones they can dip in the water on a long cable, they can drop independant sonar bouys that are radio-linked, and they can even drop homing torpedoes.”

“How long can they stay up?”

“A few hours. Mustin's helipad took a bomb hit in that last attack, but they're patching the deck up as we speak. They've been refueling and turning them around on Fitzgerald's helipad. She doesn't have a hangar or spare munitions, but she's got an avgas tank and refueling lines.”

“Oh.” She looks mollified – somewhat. “What about Hornet, can we-”

“Shoukaku,” Goto interjects, “I-”

“S-sorry, Admiral,” she says, bowing and backing away in one motion. “I shouldn't be b-bothering you right no-”

“*Stay, dammit,*” he growls gruffly. “Shoukaku, I've read every history book I can lay my grubby mitts on and I still don't know half of what you do about carrier ops cira 1943, okay?”

She nods, and waits.

“Kaga can make about ten knots; twelve if she really pushes it. Can she still launch fighters?”

>>41916645
Fucking Sammy like a bawss.

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IT'S TIME

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“Yes,” Shoukaku replies firmly. “Most fighters can make a takeoff from a stationary deck...”

“I hear a big butt coming,” Goto says.

Every eye twitches towards the right side of the room for a second.

“Too easy,” Hate mutters. “Gimme a challenge.”

“*But,*” Shoukaku says, “you need almost a full deck run to do it, and, uh-” she points at Shiranui's display, which has Kaga in it. She's pouting a bit as she picks at the scorched edges of a shell-hole in her shirt.

Goto looks blankly at her, and then back to Shoukaku. “Uh.”

“You don't-? Right,” she says hurriedly. “She's just like Akagi, at the moment.” Akagi's deck is visible from one of Fitzgerald's feeds; a camera set up on the starboard bridge wing. The massive carrier's wooden flight deck is absolutely crammed with aircraft; a motley assortment of refugees from all three carriers. “There's no room.”

“Hangar deck?”

“We'd have to stow Hornet's dive-bombers,” Shoukaku says. “Our own dive-bombers barely fit with folding wingtips. Your yankee ones don't fold at all. I don't even think we could get our own below – you get them to the elevator. Kaga's deck is nice and wide-”

“I heard that,” Kaga's voice growls in your ear, but you decide not to mention it.

“-room to shuffle them around, but-” Shoukaku shakes her head. “It's far too crowded, we – we just can't do it!”

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“Just shove some of the damn things overboard,” you point out sharply. “Whatever we can't use-”

“We did that,” Goto says darkly. “Why do you think Shoukaku is cooling her rudders here instead of in the fight? Which was *my* call, by the way,” he adds hastily, patting Shoukaku on the shoulder.

“Dammit, you can shove the SBDs overboard,” you point out. “American air groups weren't organic to their, uh, Shoukau what are you the is heystopthat-”

Shoukaku just hugs your arm closer, doing a fairly good job of pressing it between her breasts, which her flowing, silken outfit does little to restrain. “We're all pretty organic now, Admiral.”

You look to Goto for help, but he just gives you that look particular to men millimeters shy of a grin you'd be entitled to slap him for.

“Even if we did,” Shoukaku continues, “we lost almost half our own planes to the anti-aircraft fire, and I don't even know if... if we *can* re-arm yankee planes. We've never tried before.”

>>41916732
>We're all pretty organic now
I bet you are Shoukaku

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You rub your head – no more strange headaches, not after that nasty little steel hitchhiker was removed, but you're expecting an old-fashioned stress-induced one any minute now. “What if we push half of those deck-parked SBDs on Akagi into the drink? Bombs are bombs; they're not as complex as torpedoes. Could she re-arm them and launch?”

Shoukaku bites her lip and rests her head on your shoulder with a sigh. “I don't know, Admiral.”

“We could toss some of the SBDs and turn around her D3As,” Goto offers.

“We've half of what we had, and only a handful landed on Akagi,” you point out. “She had to stop recovery ops when her deck filled up. Kaga had more room.”

“I heard that, too,” Kaga says flatly, rubbing her thumb over a dent in her armored chestplate.

“Five or six dive-bombers are better than nothing,” Goto points out. He sighs, and checks his watch. “Well, they're your planes. Better make up your mind – we've got two hours till that surface force arrives.”

You look up at the tactical display again, and the ominous red dot of the abyssal surface force drawing closer. With Hornet stationary, you're going to have to make a fight of it right here.

And the odds are far more even than you'd like.

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[ ] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.
[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.
[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

>>41916786
>[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

How many helos do we have? What's their lifting capacity? Can we use them in some way?

>>41916786
what about kaga

>>41916732
Oh Jesus no, pls do not ask fairies to do Metric/Imperial conversions while using bombs.

>>41916786
>other
Have Hornet dismiss her mahou shoujo outfit and load her onto one of the Burkes. Make best speed away from the incoming shitshow.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work

>>41916786

>[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

>[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.
We should just start the tow and get moving away. If our subs are still engaged that means they have to stay HERE, we can drag the enemy fleet over them.

Assuming Sammy can nail the bastard with her hedgehogs, does she even have a sonar lock yet?

>>41916732
>Shoukaku just hugs your arm closer, doing a fairly good job of pressing it between her breasts, which her flowing, silken outfit does little to restrain. “We're all pretty organic now, Admiral.”

Heh.

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

Need to bomb shit.

>>41916804
We have a couple of MH-60s with ASW gear.

>>41916786
[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

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>>41916786
[x] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

Besides, the planes, while valuable, are noting compared to the pilots who fly them. Actual combat experience is worth more than the plane itself, especially since we can replace the planes pretty much at our leisure with Hornet laid up.

>>41916786
[X ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life

I'm getting the willys from the other two option.

>>41916786
>[X] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

I really rather not be without aircraft.

>>41916786
>[x ] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

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>>41916823
Bad idea.

Trust me.

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.
going without CV is death

>>41916786
>[X] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

TheGambler.mp4

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

If hornet is dead in the water, can she still use that catapult of hers?

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>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

[X] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.
>[x] Have the carriers retreat, the other surface units will cover the retreat.

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.
Don't you dare try running with our two carriers. It's a really bad idea.

>>41916786
>[X] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

>>41916814

Kaga's 27 knot top speed made it hard for her to launch loaded strike planes at the best of times. With only 10-12 knots headway and a light wind, she's unable to put up anything but fighters - and fighters would require most of the deck for a run-up, which means pushing off a terribly high number of planes.

Besides, they'd only be fighters, they couldn't carry bombs (or tanks) if they wanted to get airborne, and strafing won't avail you much against the abyssals, not compared to SBDs or D3As.

>>41916889
It's only a little blood loss, shock from untransforming with that much battle damage, and death in the medward versus being stationary and an easier target.

I'm trying to make Harder a friend to play with, but I have no idea who to pick.

I was thinking maybe Seahorse, or Dolphin.

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>>41916804
Are you suggesting that we try carry them out like Jaegers in pacific rim?

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.

Need to get weight of fire going

>>41916996
The one that got mentioned last thread. Albacore

>>41916933
As far as I know, it can only be used with lightly loaded aircraft. Fine for last-minute point defense, but unable to launch strikes.

>>41916997
I was thinking use them to shuffle the airplanes around.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.
The fairies should be able to bolt on some bombs on unfamiliar planes.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.

>>41916645
WOOHOO! It's planefag! A humble suggestion for a change to scheduling times for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUYuPdleZrU

And some responses the last thread died before i could post.
>>41903753
>>41903869
Doesn't the Imperial Japanese Army have a few ships? It'd be interesting to see pint-sized marines making a landing. Sure, their rifles wouldn't do very much, but I'm thinking fairy weapon crews of three or four 'men' to a mortar, rocket launcher or heavy machine gun?

Come on, that'd be adorable. And deadly! That's like, the best combination!

>>41903962
Clones, I can buy, but rather than the lovely, chaotic mess that is an army of Hate, I'm expecting legions of identical, half-corpse, half-alien motherfuckers that just march out of the water. I dare say we've only just begun to see what the abyss can unleash. You think they're bad now, do you really want to see what a destroyer or gods forbid, a BATTLESHIP can do on land?! Nothing on treads could even scratch it!

>>41904482
I'm still not sure what the fuck. I think that hull is more a construct of quantum uncertainty than anything else... Like a solid hologram that Akagi's projecting, or rather, a projection of her inherent spirit. I don't know; shipgirls make no goddamn sense.

>>41904642
>>41904679
Yeah, it's DEFINITELY the levelling effect. Planes land on carriers, thus, an F-18 can land on Akagi. Don't try and use adult logic on it - you need to think like you're 6 years old and have just had the basics explained to you, to understand it.

We Arrive!

>>41916972
Shouldn't the vote about retreating concern Hornet and Kaga rather than Hornet and Akagi?

>>41916976
... So it's a very bad idea. Let's not do that.

>>41916997
... DO IT.

>[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.

While battle is a terrible time to experiment, we do need numbers at this time.

>>41916972
Can the 60s lift the planes? Or they on dedicated ASW?

>>41916786
Can we try rearming first? SBDs were generally armed on the deck anyway. If they can't be armed, push them over and launch D3As. If they can, let's launch them.

>>41917009
>sank Tenryuu and Taiho

cool, will try my HARDest

>>41917050
They have to be deck armed. They won't fit down the elevators.

>>41916786
>[x] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.

>>41916786
>[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.
>[ ] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

>>41917041
>it's a very bad idea
It's 50/50. You either risk Hornet dieing on the table or risk her sinking from a lucky torpedo or 500 pounder.

Huh.

Thats an idea.

Hey what are the LAMPs rated for?

Can we get the fairies on Hornet to gather munitions in some sort of net and have the LAMPs ferry them across so they have the right munitions to load onto the SBDs?

Akagi needs time to start refueling and dumping fighters overboard anyways while this is going on.

>>41917037
Planefag said the F-18 snapped the cables and rammed into the crash barrier.

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Finished this just as the thread ended last night.

>>41916933
>If hornet is dead in the water, can she still use that catapult of hers?

I looked this all up. The catapult she was equipped with pre-war could fling planes off the deck at 40 MPH. The ones she had by 1942 were better; they could manage 72MPH or so for a given weight. The stall speed of a Wildcat and/or a Hellcat? Just slightly below 70 MPH. They could theoretically launch fighters from a dead standstill, just barely - but you'd be better off with a full-deck run, (assuming you have a full intact deck to utilize.)

But in any case, even an unloaded SBD? Nope. Catapults were - and are to give planes an extra kick in the ass to get airborne. Even modern carriers chug along at sanic, and into the wind, to launch.

>>41917076
Reread what he is saying.

Honestly. Just start rereading everything you want to reply to.

Last thread as well you replied to someone having completely misunderstood what he wrote.

>>41917115
Forgot accompanying music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ0emX5RgZQ

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>>41916732
>Shoukaku just hugs your arm closer, doing a fairly good job of pressing it between her breasts, which her flowing, silken outfit does little to restrain. “We're all pretty organic now, Admiral.”

T H I R S T Y

>>41917117

Planefag, is >>41917098 doable?

>>41917089
So the question becomes, is the nearest doctor onboard either of the Burkes a good one?

>>41917149
Oh, she is.

She is also desperately looking for reassurance and comfort in a time of crisis.

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>>41917115
...I'm going to kill that little son of a bitch.

>>41916786
I'm not usually a gambling man, but I can't imagine 5 or 6 bombers is going to mean spit in this fight, and trying to run the carriers out unescorted is suicide.

>>41917009
>>41917062

From my understanding, they'd be rivals. Harder's captain believed the best way help the war effort was to sink Destroyers.

Albacore's captain believed the best way was to sink large vessels, like transports. Albacore's methods were also seemingly suicidal/insane enough that most subs wouldn't pair with her, but the list of subs that would was basically a list of who's who among famous ship sinking subs (other than Harder).

If I'm correct in this, as the number of planes decrease they all get less useful, since there's a fixed amount of guns to shoot at them. The chance to get a decent number of planes out is worth more than having a small number guaranteed shot down.

Looks like we are back to the Shoukaku waifuing. Lets do
Our best shall we?

>>41917207
Would you be interested in a specialized IP tracker, miss Naka?

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>>41917207

>>41917255
mandatory reading for everyone waifuing shokaku:
http://www.combinedfleet.com/shoksink.htm

>>41917227
On the other hand, Albacore wouldn't know that she sank either of the major ships she did. Both of those kills were only given to her post war when comparing records.

>>41917227
Ah, but would they be rivals... or a synergistic team covering each other's weaknesses that will have obscene kill scores when they sortie together? >:D

>>41917245

>[ ] Ditch the D3As, take a gamble on re-arming the SBDs. A handful of bombers isn't going to cut it, and a lot more than an extra week or two on Akagi's turnaround time hangs in the balance – like Hornet's life.

>>41917255
I'm still holding out for Showboat.
But Shoukaku is a nice consolation prize.

>>41917188
>comfort in a time of crisis
I'm waiting for the inevitable moment where Shoukaku takes Settle's hand without thinking. Then Goto and Hate start singing K-I-S-S-I-N-G on an open channel so the rest of the task force can hear.

>>41917319
> >:D

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>>41917207
Not into spanking, Naka?

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>>41917290
Little bastard has to come home sometime.

>>41917188
she just wants the D

>>41917319
>>:D
Stop that.

>>41917245
>If I'm correct in this, as the number of planes decrease they all get less useful, since there's a fixed amount of guns to shoot at them. The chance to get a decent number of planes out is worth more than having a small number guaranteed shot down.

The modern incarnation of the same concept is "Defense saturation," i.e. "fire more missiles."

>>41916786
>[X] Ditch the SBDs, spot the D3As. Hornet's going to be in ordinary for a while anyways, but Akagi's turnaround time is limited solely by her aircraft supply; she's yet to take a hit, a few dive bombers are better than nothing, and it's guaranteed to work.
Not sure about this one. It's a gamble either case.

CALLIN VOTES, COUNTIN EM NOW

>>41917207

Suuuuuure you are.

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>>41917319
>>:D

>>41917404
Tell us how close this one was.

>>41917207
Why are you suprised by this. You've been stalking him this long, you should have figured out he's an ass by now.

>>41917366
Never denied it!

>>41917339
She might have tried, if Settle wasn't in full Admiral/kill all Abyssals mode throughout the fight.

>>41917356
Indeed he should.

Well, most likely.

... the odds are favourable.

>>41917245
>The chance to get a decent number of planes out is worth more than having a small number guaranteed shot down.
That didn't do the Japanese much good at Midway, although granted the situation was more complex than that.

>>41917319
>using emoticons
Lurk more.

>>41917375
Only when commanding an American fleet. With the Europeans you can't just overwhelm defences.

Not enough launchers and stores, you know?

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>>41917417

BEHOLD, THE HATEFUL GAMBIT

1. "Suuuure you don't want to fuck X."
2. "Pot calling the kettle black? You're bad at hiding this."
3. "WHATEVER I DON'T EVEN GIVE A FUCK THE CORPORAL DOTH PROTEST EXACTLY ENOUGH"

Naka, hon, take it from an old salt. This is the Pacific War in microcosm. Winning move, etc.

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>>41917417
Okay, fine. I won't kill him.

I'll make him wish he was dead.

>>41917447
I'm not surprised when the corgis barf up chewed bits of life rings on my shoes, but it doesn't mean I like it.

A D3A on the deck is worth two SBDs in the hangar, apparently. WRITAN~

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>>41917427
When will Settle get Arizona in that outfit?

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>>41917473

>>41917473
And here is our Admiral, always full of good advice.

Do listen to him, Miss Naka. He is wise to the ways of the Hate persona.

So to the people (like myself) that were suggesting using the seahawks to move planes, they can lift a single fully loaded Wildcat, or a single empty SBD each.

So strange.

KCQ and MGNQ running at the same time.

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What is she thinking about?

>>41917511
I am not sure paint is meant to be inspected like that. TASTES LIKE LEAD

>>41917528
That's nice.

>>41917473

What the fuck are you on about this time. You don't even know, do you?

>>41917494

Speaking of we need more life rings.

>>41917518
how about the jap planes?

>>41917539
>What is she thinking about?
Kongo.
More specifically, Kongo's stern.

>>41917539
FREEDOM

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>>41917539
Being the cutest.

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>>41917539
Having Settle place a necklace with a bell on her.

>>41917549
Yeah, and speaking of I need more shoes. You're buying, I take a 22cm.

>>41917560
Well, I'm not familiar with their loadouts, but wiki says an empty Kate is about 5000lbs, so they could take it.

>>41917539
Pleasuring her Admiral in her stern.

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>>41917539

>>41917539
5"/38 DP ~~~

Been meaning to get this out awhile, and I didn't manage to in the excitement of last night's threads. I wanted planefag to know about this.

My grandfather served as a bosun's mate on the USS Phelps (DD-360), and remained on her at that post throughout her career in the Pacific Theater, from the moment the bombs dropped at Pearl Harbor right up to the end. I lived with him and my grandma throughout my formative years. He never talked about the war with me - at least not directly, and in fact he didn't say much at all about anything - but the little things that made him sometimes just suddenly clam up, coupled with the stories he did tell my grandma and which she shared with me, told the story of a man with pain that never really left him.

There were two stories that stood out, among the many he didn't tell.

He was there at Pearl when a Japanese bomb bulls-eyed Arizona in the stacks, and she went down. He had been ashore, chatting with some friends, and so he was a mere stone's throw away when he saw the bomb penetrate her deck and blow the magazine. The way my grandma describes him as he told her this story, he was still horrified - even decades later - at the sight of men on fire, lit up like man-shaped torches, diving overboard to their deaths in the vain hope of extinguishing the flames.

[1/2]

>>41917627
>22cm
>cm
You're going to have to speak stupid to him gurl.

[2/2, damn post length limits]

He was also there for the scuttling of the Lexington. According to grandma, his exact words were: "Everyone but the torpedo gunners stood at attention on deck and had to watch her go down. The damn Japs hurt her, but they couldn't kill her, and we had to sink her so they couldn't take her. Not one single goddamn eye on that deck stayed dry. Not the sailors, not the captain, nobody. We stood there more than half an hour torpedoing her, because she just wouldn't quit fighting."

Two degrees of separation, and I can still tell how badly it hurt him to watch those two ships sink.

In KCQ, Arizona's back now, but there's one missing. planefag, if there's the slightest chance that Lady Lex can come back again, to fight for humanity against the Abyssal Fleet, please make it happen. I know you don't know me, but it would mean the world to me.

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>>41917683
Okay, I need a shoe roughly six times longer than his penis and ten times larger than his brain.

>>41917627
the fuck size is that.In fucking American.

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>>41917549
>What the fuck are you on about this time. You don't even know, do you?

You'd be surprised what I fucking know, muhreen.

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>>41917709
Don't worry stacked is in our hearts

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>>41917539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4IRQVGsBU

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>>41917665

>>41917255
Ehhhhhh...

She's more relevent to talk about atm.

>>41917722
>inb4 hurrdurr your feet aren't that big
You gotta go at them with something they can turn around dumbo.

>>41917738
So, in other words, no. you fucking don't. Fine, moving along.

>>41917722
That's a big fucking shoe. you got Godzilla feet over there? Fucking using your feet as auxiliary flotation devices?

>>41917788
>So, in other words, no. you fucking don't.

Of course I do. I know you did something that will piss me off. Honestly at this point I should just ninja punch you every now and then for the time I didn't catch you.

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>>41917255
>>41917324
>>41917366
>>41917771

shoukeinelove~

>>41917679
>>41917709
Well, I guess it's cool that you like STACKED that much, but all that seems slightly unnecessary...

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>>41916698
>“I hear a big butt coming,” Goto says.

>>41917821
Here, I'm feeling fucking nice. Here's a hint. have you seen Goto's secretary around recently?

>>41917864
What did you do...

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>>41917821

Here is something!

>>41917864

?

>>41917683
>>41917736
>>41917775
>>41917788
>american thought process
It's to fucking easy.

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>>41917788
>>41917864
I have.

Perhaps I should perform my due diligence as the Admiral's secretary, and tell him about a phone call...

>>41917864
Hate, did you convince Yamato to join the USN or did you fuck her?

Both are about as likely as each other.

>>41917910

And he'll tell you it's all part of an elaborate plot by me to troll him. Go ahead, tell him. I fucking bet you he'll blow it off.

>>41917864
God dammit hate

>>41917864
STOP LEWDING BATTLESHIPS DAMMIT

>>41917910
It is always good to perform one's duties with diligence, Miss Naka.

>>41917864
... Corporal, what did you do?

Or maybe I should go as far as "What happened due to your actions and/or inaction?"

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>>41917539

>>41917979
>Naval PPC
Wrong navy, friend. You'll have to make do with SCLs.

The Arrow IV would be fun though. That thing is fucking versatile.

>>41917935

You have Iowa, and she can barely fit through the Panama canal as is. Then there is Hornet who seems to have a love of your Ranger Panties...

>>41917979
Hold the fuck on, is that launcher in the bottom right meant to fire AIM-54s?

>>41918030
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Arrow_IV_Artillery
And for posterity
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Nuclear_Weapons#Davy_Crockett

>>41918030
Nah, dude. It's artillery rockets from the 31st century

>>41916786
Can't we have Hornet dismiss her outfit and just helicopter her out?

>>41918158
Someone already brought up why that was a bad idea.

Or, at the very least, a risky one.

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>>41917936
>>41917965
Pic fucking related

>>41917966
Nothing. stop asking.

>>41918158
From how bad it sounds, she might just die of shock. There's a... transition, without the fit-out. Our bodies stop being hulls and start being a lot more fragile. We can take a lot more punishment with combat gear mustered.

>>41918192
You've got bad tastes in comedians?

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>>41918192

Be glad you don't have a nip carrier gunning for you like Settle does. Then again I don't know how he feels about that. ANYWAY

EVIDENCE A: said carrier at night.

Maybe it works, reality looks the other way and allows you to lift up a carrier with a teeny little helicopter.

Maybe it decides you're being too cheeky and you're left with a rapidly drowning person who's been hit by a falling helicopter.

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>>41918073
Don't forget the new stuff

>>41916786
>[x] Just get Akagi and Hornet out of here – you've got two of the most terrifying rape machines ever to dive the inky depths on-call, to say nothing of two Arleigh-Burkes and four heavy cruiser-girls. You're got plenty of batters, if the abyssals are willing to pitch.

I'd LIKE to have more carriers on-station, but the abyssal air attack has largely been blunted, so from hear on out, it's a surface war... I don't like it, but it's best to conserve our assets.

>>41918192
You know, I kind of believe him.

Hate wouldn't just bluntly deny it, if he HAD done something. He'd be taunting us with it.

No-one likes the idea of fairy weapon teams then? You know, there's so much I want to ask about the HOW of things, that Settle won't care, or want to think about. For instance, just WHAT Akagi has done... Is the hull 'real' or is it some kind of magic thing that can't be weighed or measured, but still exerts influence on its surroundings? Well at least we should get more on the fairies pretty soon... If nothing else, there's a pilot that needs a medal (and a non-judicial hearing).

>>41918351
your a little late M8

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>>41917979

So any chance the Navy and and anyone else is trying to R&D up a proper fighter for this new threat instead of using either the Hornet or the F-35 or F-22, both of which seem designed to counter a different threat profile?

>>41918192
... Very well. I will believe you.

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>>41918422
please

>>41918293
Oh my god how did they miss that wording

>>41918498
F-5 3.0?
Or would it be 4.0?

>>41918498
No.

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whens marvel

Assuming our two IJN subs are intact, they still have their scout planes right? I know it's down the priority list but we out to try and re-establish contact, I'd rather not have any more surprises. We basically just fought Midway in reverse and to a draw (maybe even a tactical win at this point) - lets not blow it now for lack of good intel ...

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Here is some nice Houshou while we wait.

>>41918523
I think the intent was to word it so that a BA would have to beat a 7-D(istance) with its 2d6 and infantry would have to beat 9-D. But they subtracted the D from the wrong thing and now everyone dies forever.

>>41918636
How about some nice Shoukaku too?

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Is it ok if Albacore is wearing really fucking big diving suit pants because I think they look hilarious?

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>>41918674
Post your own damn waifu, lord knows there's enough art of her thanks to the game itself

>>41918713
You mean so she isn't nearly explicit fan service?

Also so she falls more into akward adorable?

Yes please!

>>41918753
that's what I had in mind, yes

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>>41918674
>>41918745

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>>41918779
Kongou Best

>>41918811
At getting torpedoed.

>>41918826
By Goto

>>41918811
Glorified heavy cruiser

>>41918779
Ahhh, just what I had in mind. Thank you, my friend!

>>41918852
*armored cruiser

according to Vickers, that is

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>>41918853
MODERNIZATION!

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>>41918674

>>41918885
Okay.

>>41918811
Glorified armored cruiser

>SBDs, Zeros, and an F-18 on Akagi's flight deck, escorted by the Mustin.
You know those iconic photographs of history, the D-Days and Iwo Jimas, the ones that stick in the memory of man? Yeah, I think that's the money shot for this battle, and maybe even the whole war.

>>41918910
If only we had time for a photo op.

>>41918931
There are enough cameras in the battle group that we don't need to stop for one, just need to pick one frame from all the chaos.

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>>41918888

Is that fairly in the SBD-3 that broke formation and pulled those stunts still alive and kicking?

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>>41918953
Assertive, lewd ships are great.
They're also pretty too.

>>41918999
>>41919030
GG planefag

>>41918999
>>41919030
You, uh, you might want to check which trip you're using.

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>>41918999
>>41919030
>Deleted

>>41919067
Wait nettle is planefag?

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>>41918999
>>41919030

>>41919082
And a late welcome to the party to this anon!

>>41919046
>>41919067

I never get tired of these helpful posts. If you guys didn't post I might never notice I forgot to switch trips after writing a long update.

>>41919082
yes, we have known this for a while

>>41919067

How many planefags we GOT in this thread anyway?

>Hornet just grumps up and clamps down, trying to ignore the small cluster of mechanics crowding each other for space by her flat, toned belly. They're crowding the gunwales of Mustin's whaleboat, which has been lashed to Hornet's lower leg for stability.
Huh.
Shipgirl/conventional interaction is really fucking weird, sometimes
>>41919082
Old news, but yes

>>41919082
Yes, you just figured that out?

>>41919082
... Yes, you slowpoke. Yes he is.

>>41919082
...yeah.

>>41919082
We are all planefag. You aren't?

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“Think those Seahawks could sling-load planes between decks?”

You shake your head. Higgins was a Flight I boat just like Fitzgerald; Harpoons but no hangars. You did have a helipad, however, meant for borrowing choppers from carriers, and you worked flight ops with them more than once on ASW exercises. “Sling-loading is an art and a science, they'd need the equipment, even if they have it and are trained in it and don't need to remove anything from the choppers to do it, well-” you shrug. “That kind of thing takes hours. I've seen them do it with pallets for UNREP ops, but each load is a damn dicey thing and they take their time.”

Goto frowns, expecting the answer but disappointed anyway. “Doctrine.”

You nod. Every aspect of operating the massive and complex machinery of war in a cohesive and organized fashion relies on relentless practice to the point of muscle memory. There's all sorts of things you *can* do, but only what you've practiced doing has a chance in hell of surviving the vagaries of war and Mister Fucking Murphy. Sling-loading WWII-era fighters – or jury-rigging 250kg bombs onto 500 pound bomb racks – is something none of your shipgirls have done, and with a hostile surface fleet bearing down on you, now's a lousy time to try.

You sigh. “Push the SBD's overboard, have Akagi spin up anything she's got left, with whatever munitions she's got left.”

Goto raises an eyebrow.

“Doctrine,” you say.

>>41919102
>>41919103
I mainly just ctrl+f planefag's trip.

>>41919101
I'm confused as fuck.
Is she human sized or ship sized or what?

>>41919129
Fuck off, planefag.

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>>41918999
>>41919030
what a baka

>>41919133
>I'm confused as fuck.
>Is she human sized or ship sized or what?
yes

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Goto gets to work working out the details with Kaga, trying to find the most time-efficient way to get armed planes off her deck while saving as many SBDs as possible. Damage reports from the rest of the fleet are minimal; aside from a few lost bombers that took potshots at your destroyer screen or cruisers, every attack focused on the carriers, as they should've.

“Hornet, how is it coming along?”

“Why ask me?” she asks primly. Hornet's arms are crossed tightly over her modest bust as she stares out to sea, the light wind brushing her long dark hair in gentle waves past her shoulders. She'd be a stoic beauty in profile if not for the faint blush visible even through her dusky skin.

“Guess I don't have the Admiral's... touch,” a man's voice drifts over Hornet's mic, and you hear Hate sniggering rudely in the background, not bothering to hide it. Hornet just grumps up and clamps down, trying to ignore the small cluster of mechanics crowding each other for space by her flat, toned belly. They're crowding the gunwales of Mustin's whaleboat, which has been lashed to Hornet's lower leg for stability.

“We've got her pretty well patched,” one of them says. “We can't pump out the water till we restore boiler pressure, though.”

“What's stopping that?”

Hornet sniffs and tilts her chin an inch higher, studiously ignoring the workers.

“Her boiler stacks,” another one says on his own radio, tapping Hornet's abdomen near her belly button. “Don't ask me how it frikkin works, just-” he shrugs. “Without a draft the fire won't keep going, or some shit like that. Christ, they never trained me to work on steam... could we just take her under tow?”

>>41919133
Well, reading the post it seems that she's human-sized, while other humans are doing what they can to repair her with human-sized tools

>>41919082
>planefag
>not being like 1/3 of the characters in the between updates chatter

Right

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“What could you make, towing her with Mustin?”

“Eeh. If she was a Yorktown-”

“I AM a Yorktown-!”

“Five knots?”

You and Goto both sigh – another answer you'd expected, but aren't happy to hear. That won't do you much good against cruisers and destroyers approaching at thirty-plus.

“We're going to have to slug it out,” you say.

“Yeah.”

“Well, what do we have?” you ask.

What you have turns out to be more than you expected. The Burkes reserved twenty percent of their Tomahawks, and carried 40 into battle (most of their magazines were devoted to SM-2s to cover the fleet, of course,) leaving them with eight of the new Block-IV weapons, which are anti-ship capable. The capability had been rushed to IOC in 2015 as a stopgap till the LRASM was developed. To think everyone was worried about the Chinese, then. The Virginias have their Mark-48s, of course, but encounters between SSNs and abyssal surface assets have been rare in the extreme; and never an attack group tackling a task force. They carry twelve Tomahawks in their VLS system, however, which is more weight-of-fire with standoff advantage to use. Fitzgerald has her eight Harpoons, as well – modified and improved from the ones you were forced to use in LA; reworked and reprogrammed to utilize lessons from your battle and subsequent engagements. They should track fairly reliably.

>>41919176

Considering there's fucking three of us, yeah.

Yeah he is.

>>41919169
Yes, but it's
>which has been lashed to Hornet's lower leg for stability.
which is throwing me.

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Which is good, because the Burke's are far to fragile to shellfire to let them too close to this scrap.

“Well, that's it for our side,” you summarize. “Can't tell you much more about the subs, unfortunately, but that's everything I know about Burke's. How's the shipgirl front?”

“Not good,” Goto says, “but not bad, either. If we could fight them at night, it's exactly the kind of scrap these girls were built and trained for.” He stares at the tactical map impassively, thinking. “A lot of our firepower is in their torpedoes, and they just don't work half as well in daylight. Enemies still can't see a Long Lance coming, but they sure as hell know when they've been fired. They're best at close range, too, and without cover of darkness those girls are going to get chewed up fast if they close too tightly.”

“The cruisers?”

“That's the good news,” Goto says. “Takao and Maya are two of the best gun cruisers ever put afloat. Five-inch thick belt, four-inch bulkheads and *ten* main-battery twelve-centimeter guns. Heaviest broadside we could ask for from a cruiser. And sixteen damn torpedoes – they ought to hit *something* with that.”

Naka makes a dubious sound behind you, but remains quiet.

“What about the reece cruisers?” you ask.

“Less armor but still better than average, eight guns, twelve torpedoes, standard fare. Solid.”

“How about the enemy?”

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>>41919160
>USS Not Appearing In This Quest Shut The Fuck Up Already.

>>41919213
they seem to mass as much as the actual ships, even though they are human sized

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“I vectored a few of Chikuma's planes to have a look at them on the way back,” Goto says. “They're doing that fucking smokescreen trick again, but I asked the chairforce boys to bring down the Global Hawk to forty-five thousand or so. They had a grand time shooting at it while Chikuma's planes snuck in and took a peek. It looks like seven cruisers and about ten destroyers, at least.”

“Cruisers? What kind?”

He shrugs. “Visual ID was sketchy back when we used it on *normal* ships. Between the era differences and all that freaky abyssal body horror shit? How the hell should I fucking know?” Goto take a half-step back, as if trying to withdraw from his own words. “Well... you know what I mean.”

You sure do – it's been a long damn morning, and you've got a square-off at high-noon approaching. “So we're at parity, at least.”

“Yeah.” Goto sneers and glares back at the tactical display. “I hate fair fights.”

“I hear you.”

“So, who's commanding what? I've got a Fletcher and a DE left in this fight, and that's it.” Fitzgerald and Mustin are technically under Goto's command, having been attached to his task force – and your authority is implicitly (though not explicitly) limited to hulls of the shipgirl type.

>>41919213
Why? She's standing in the water at a full stop, so it's a stable mooring point

>>41919207
I wasnt talking about just Nettle and you Hate.
There's the guy RP'ing Arizona and Naka and the fuckers that was playing Kongou, and Hornet, and fuck if i can rmeber the other right now. at one point. And then there other guys like Bentus.

Hell im surprised no one has started doing Goto yet.

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“I take the cruisers, you take the destroyers?”

“Bean to your Ender, huh?”

“NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRD-”

“Fuck you,” you and Goto snap at Hate, and turn back to the matter at hand – how to play the battle. Your options are pretty simple – line up at standoff range and rely on gun superiority to force them from the field, or push in close for a strong torpedo attack.

“Our best torpedo delivery vehicle is those destroyers,” you mutter. “And any way you dice it, ours will intercept their run or they'll intercept our run.”

“We've got the Burke's for that,” he points out. “They're light on anti-ship missiles, but the SM-2s and Sparrows in surface-to-surface mode are the most accurate damn guided weapons we've ever used on abyssals, especially with the Aegis-system radars. Little warheads don't do much on heavy units, but they sure nail destroyers fine.”

“Their ASM missiles are working a lot better now,” you counter, “and they're the perfect complement to your heavy gun line.”

>>41919258
Oh, she's standing.
That makes a little more sense then.

>>41919234
Okay that has to bait there is no way anyone would unironically use that image

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“True,” Goto says, nodding. “And we can fire the Long Lances around twenty-thousand yards, force them to tack away and keep distance if they try to close too much. But...” he sighs, and looks back at the screen. Hornet seems to be strangling a mechanic with her bowstring while his alleged comrades laugh at him gleefully. “She's blood in the water, Settle. I have a feeling the bastards are going to rush us one way or another – they only need one good spread at range, and they know it. If we're going for close action, I'd rather do it on our terms than theirs.”

You look at the screens yourself – at Willie Dee, who's trying to swat away a live depth-charge flung into her by Sammy's K-gun. By some perverse and dark magics, she's only managing to juggle it as Sammy laughs like a lunatic.

When destroyers go into close action in broad daylight, they can do great things.

And they usually pay for it with their lives.

[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.
[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

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>>41919289
>“Bean to your Ender, huh?”
>“NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRD-”
>“Fuck you,” you and Goto snap at Hate

>>41919318
>[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

>>41919289
>Enders game reference

"no"

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
There's more chance of our units surviving this way.

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>>41919289
>“Bean to your Ender, huh?”
>“NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRD-”

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

We don't need close action yet.

>>41919318
>Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

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>>41919234

I don't know if I pissed off SaltLakeCity fag or Hampton fag or New Orleans fag I just found that cruiser picture in my shipslut folder and renamed it on the fly

I hope it was New Orleans fag

>>41919287
I'm fairly certain that Arizona is now planefag's shitposting let free to run rampant.
>>41919318
Fuuuuuuuuck, this is a tough call. Any thoughts from the crowd?

>>41919318
>[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

>Hornet seems to be strangling a mechanic with her bowstring while his alleged comrades laugh at him gleefully.
God bless the Navy.

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.
We're going full Battle off Samar on this one. Our AShMs should be able to take out the destroyers, keeping ours safe.

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

>>41919252
Boss, other boss, careful on the torpedoes. I threw eight fish into the water and came up dry... and so did the other 54 Desron 4 brought along.

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>>41919318
[X] Close action, torpedo attack.
Fuck me with these hard choices Jesus H. Christ goddamned son a bitch assfuck prick dick nigger.

>>41919318
>[X] Close action, torpedo attack.

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[X] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

The cruisers can use the torpedos defensively.

>>41919376
Why do you hope it was new Orleans fag?

>>41919376
Mate that's a picture of the Augusta, according to google.
I don't think she's actually been mentioned at any point in these 50+ threads

>>41919318
>Willie Dee, who's trying to swat away a live depth-charge flung into her by Sammy's K-gun. By some perverse and dark magics, she's only managing to juggle it as Sammy laughs like a lunatic.
Goddammit Sammy. No bully the Willie.

Damn, we could use a battlewagon right now.

>Gunline

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.

>>41919376
It's the USS Augusta.

>>41919318
>other
Have the destroyers dump oil to form a defensive screen while the cruisers stand-off and shell. Fitzgerald and Mustin act as spotters for the cruisers using their superior sensor suite so they're not firing blind. When the enemy task force gets within range, seed the approach with torps.

>>41919318
>[x] Close action, torpedo attack.
"Sammy, Taffy 3 time. Quickly teach all DDs the 101 of being suicidally badass."

>>41919376
Google says USS Augusta.

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.
It's honestly probably the best course of action.

>>41919318
>>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
I would think we'd rather keep them as far as possible.

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

>>41919376
Augusta you nerd

>>41919376

Get bent shitbrisket.

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

Cruise missiles and Mk 48s gogog

>>41919318
>[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
How much time do we have?
Can we send our cruisers and destroyers to form their gunline farther away from the carriers themselves? Give more time for the conventional ships to catch any leakers.

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>>41919318

>Stand--off, gun-line superiority

PLUS

>NIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLENIGHTBATTLE

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.

Either rush in and inflict the damage on them and take them out.

Hit them with what air power you can while doing so.

Or else you will have to deal with them going through the battle line and rushing hornet.

>>41919318
[X] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
Samar ended with a good portion of the destroyers in the drink. Let's not.

>>41919318
>Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
>>41919376
Didn't really piss me off but you really are not giving us any heavy hitters that can keep up with our flat tops that aren't temporary or Nip vessels are ya?

>WE NEEDZ MOAR DAKKA
>Arizona and her big stern are to slow to keep up to be useful in fights like this.

>>41919318

[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

Start with this, we can always go to close action if warranted, but going from close to standoff is dicey

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>>41919318

[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

>>41919403
Hm. Torpedoes can be great killers, but they are unreliable ones.

If only that were true in WoWs. Damn it WG.

>>41919515
Most American BBs are slow, heavy bricks.

>>41919318
>Close action, gun-fuck superiority
Not quite staying afar, not quite suicide run

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>>41919318
[x] Close action, torpedo attack

>>41919535
That's a cruiser.

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MEANWHILE, IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT USED TO BE A MINEFIELD

ALBACOOOOOOOOOORE

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>>41919318
>[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
WALLOWSTEEL

>>41919535
That's what heavy cruisers, and everything from the North Carolina class BB and up are for.

>>41919560
Nice parachute pants. Is she from the '40s or the '80s?

>>41919318
>Other
"Have one of our subs run south and spook that surface group to slow them down, maybe even kill one or two. We’ll make this a night action."

>>41919401
Taffy - 3 had a squall and waves for cover. There's mention of them ducking behind swells to break line of sight.

These guys are coming at us with twice our number in conventional DDs with cruisers backing then up. (Sammy doesn't count because she can make 28, overriding all her safeties)

That leaves Willy, Fuckbucky, and the other Jappo. Mustin and Fitz will be at stand off range, giving the enemy only 3 targets to shoot at, unless the cruisers force follows the DDs in.

>>41919318
>[ ] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
mabey we can get them int a night battle

>>41919558
... I was commenting on the fact that Arizona is too slow to keep up with the battlegroup.

>>41919571
True. Unfortunately, we have not one of those.

>>41919571
Showboat strong.

>>41919318
How about a gun line, and when we can, roll those DDs in to finish the job? That way the enemy has to rapidly change targets.

>>41919618
So is Sammy B, but she managed it somehow.

We just have to teach Arizona to waterski and we can tow her into fights.

Gunline seems to be winning, so let's brainstorm what might go wrong and how to deal with it.
>Enemy makes their own suicidal dash through our fire to launch lethal torpedos at our stationary carriers
Our kill-shots from the destroyers and subs need to be positioned and primed to fucking murder any leakers. Our air power needs to be focused on any charging elements instead of flying willy-nilly, which should be easy since they lack AA from what we've seen

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

Also have Willie's and Sammy's radar sets assist Maya and Taco in range-finding.

>>41919446
We'd also be able to lash a towline to Hornet and get her underway within the smokescreen too for an additional defensive bonus. Up that AC score with total concealment.

>>41919587

Read this
>>41918713

and be enlightened.

>>41919658
Come to think of it, could we helicopter /Arizona/ over?

>>41919694
... Interesting idea.

>>41919676
What about Mustin and Fitzgerald's?

Hell, can we whip up a Fried Chicken Special and start burning Abyssals with our radar if they get too close?

>>41919692
That loud clap of thunder you heard was the joke flying over your head.

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.

The risk here is a long-range torpedo spread finishing off Hornet. To prevent them getting that off, we have to get up in their faces and wreck them beforehand. Sending the destroyers on a death-ride to torpedo the fuck out of the approaching ships, covered by the firepower of the heavy cruisers and timed with an alpha strike of the remaining Tomahawks while the SSNs do their thing is probably our best chance.

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>>41919560
you sir are the hero we need

>>41919232
>Takao and Maya are two of the best gun cruisers ever put afloat
Radar directed automatic 8" guns when?

>>41919663
Idea:
How many datalinks to their torpedoes can the Virginias maintain at once, and how long is their wire?
If each boat tosses out a spread of them right NOW at slow speed to get into position and then stops them and waits, we would essentially have ~8 torpedoes just waiting for the call to go active and get steered into someone's asshole after they drive up to them

>>41919318
>[ ] Close action, torpedo attack.

Gotta risk our DDs this time.

>>41919663
Gunline with a smokescreen from the destroyers. Lash a towline to Hornet. Have the destroyers dump torps at the edge of the smokescreen when the Abyssals get in range.

It's using what we have. Fuck fair fights.

>>41919160
Okay, Planefag, what the hell is going on? Am I going to have to conceal my giantess boner now? What is even going on?! Is Hornet a girl, a giantess, or a ship right now?! This is really starting to piss me off with how little i understand!

>>41919207
Oh... Well that kills some of the magic. Not all of it, but... Some.

>>41919289
>“NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRD-”
And you know what? I don't even care. Thank you, Hate. Never change.

>>41919318
Can't we stand off for torpedos? Japanese torps always had good range. Barring that...
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.
We've got Takao and Maya. That's a damn sight better than anything the abyssals can bring, short of a battleship and if they have one of those, all bets are off anyway.

>[x] Close action, torpedo attack.

Japanese gunnery was never as good as their torpedo attacks. Best to stick to their strengths.

>>41919694
In two hours? Unlikely.

We need some fucking orbital shipslut corps, ML style.

>>41919663
Damn straight. We have a general strategy, and we have a plan for the most likely enemy response. It's go time!

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>>41919658
>teach Arizona to waterski and we can tow her into fights.
Better yet, all four Kongo's plus Arizona doing pic related

>>41919745
Now that's an interesting idea. Can the torps actually shut down completely once started though?

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>>41919766

Hornet is all at once Anon, simple as that.

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>>41919474

NO U

votes counted woo

>>41919794
and then they jump a shark!

>>41919794
Pixel we need you now

>>41919799
I dunno about regular torpedoes, but there's always CAPTOR mines, if the two SSNs have any.

>>41919799
I'm not sure, but looking at some CMANO database wikis the wire on them is 30nm long? That doesn't feel quite right but I'll take it

>>41919745
>>41919799
I'm more worried about the torp's natural bouyancy.

I'd assume that once the torp stops moving, it will begin to slowly sink, so...

>>41919839
>West Virginia has a Doris Miller fairy

That's both amusing and insulting.

>>41919839
Pls use smokescreen. I want to see little girls farting.

>>41919535
True, but they have other uses in this. We can force the Abyssals to move--or wait for them to come in for a run and hit them with one of our own.

>>41919318
>[x] Stand-off, gun-line superiority.

For once, time is on our side, and we can start from range and have an answer ready if they push.

>>41917601

Far and away my favorite part of that picture is I-19

>>41919766 Okay, Planefag, what the hell is going on? Am I going to have to conceal my giantess boner now? What is even going on?! Is Hornet a girl, a giantess, or a ship right now?! This is really starting to piss me off with how little i understand!

They were never giants. They're only ships when quantum-magic-spooky-action occurs and only to a small group at a time at that, though they're internally ships when using their ship-abilities except when they're not.

USS Iowa kind of makes things confusing on account of having a proper body (could she leave it and double her firepower? Who knows?!), but her personification was human sized as well. The abyssals are only girl sized except when fighting ships except they kind of are girl sized even then sometimes which makes it hard to track them.

Their guns fire dinky popgun shots which then expand to full sized 5 and 16 inch shells and .50 calibur bullets. Except when they don't. Also, incoming fire is reduced to a proportionate size except when it isn't. It's kind of all quantum and fuzzy and experimentation would require probably expending a unique and irreplaceable asset which would get you lynched by every sailor in the world and of all time. Simultaneously.

>>41919864
Okay anons that have CMANO

What's the most autistic thing they've modeled in CMANO?
Like, when you found it was there, you were floored, because it was so out there that you could only imagine the reason as to why they'd even do so to be "autism"

>>41919760
You can also have the Japanese cruisers dump torps as they retreat. The Takao and Tone-class ships are equipped with torpedoes and have their tubes mounted on the stern so a retreating torp launch isn't difficult for them.

I don't know enough to vote on this. The first option appeals to me becsuse there's a chance everyone comes out of it okay, but that's nota realistic expectation.

>>41919493
>Can we send our cruisers and destroyers to form their gunline farther away from the carriers themselves? Give more time for the conventional ships to catch any leakers.

this is what they are going to do with the gun-line option by default, I figured, it makes so much sense

so, yeah

>>41919839
>No Heavy Escorts
>Y U DU DIS?
>goes back to questing

>>41919892
ITS SPOOKY SHIP BULLSHIT M8

Also this question has already been answered.

>>41919864
Rescinding that I can believe a 30nm wire just fine, since supposedly their maximum run at best fuel-use speed is ~27nm

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>>41919775

why not just teach them how to skydive?