Once Lirael was sated and lay next to you, and once your head had stopped spinning, you spent some time talking to her of vampires and powers, and bloodlines, specifically that you thought you could make your own, and maybe even adopt existing vampires into your bloodline. Although she's young, Lirael has travelled to worlds across the galaxy and you ask her about different vampire clans and bloodlines, and how they choose to turn those not born vampires.

“Well some hold like trials and stuff” she says “the dumb guys who like to fight hold big competitions and only the winners get to be turned, some of the like mystical vampires await signs and portents and only choose those 'fated' to become vampires. I heard someone talking once about how some vampire bloodline called the 'Desolate' only took in those who had killed other people, criminals and stuff not soldiers, Shee how are you going to pick your vampires?” she asked, turning her head to look at you.

How did you respond?

>I don't know
>Some sort of competition (what?)
>Only those useful to me
>Other criteria (what?)
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your family
>Other (?)

>>43391954
>I don't know
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your family

>>43391954
>Those that want to and I think would be helped by being vampires?
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your clan
Lirael is already a member of our family and I knife-fight anyone who says otherwise.

>>43391954
> I don't know, don't intend to do it that often anyway.
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your clan
>>43391990
We got eldritch magic powers saying she is.

>>43391954
>i don't know
>ask her if she wants to be a member of your family

>>43391954
>>43391990
This.

>>43391954
>>I don't know

>>43391954
We shall take in orphaned and lost children, also those who are terminally ill and can be saved by becoming a vampire.
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your family

>>43391954
>I don't know
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your family
Maybe something to do with out powers. Effect them corruption ect

>>43392090
Come on, guys, think of all the sweet, sweet favor we can get.

>>43391954
> I don't know, don't intend to do it that often anyway.
>Ask her if she wants to be a member of your family
I get the clan thing, but I'm sure she will understand it the right way.

>>43392172
No one would give us favour for that though, maybe Baalzi if we use them as cannon fodder.

>>43392172
Ichor's favor is at a difficulty point where that wouldn't work, nobody else cares.

ok, writing

>>43391940
Lirael is still the cutest.

You think about her question before answering honestly “I don't know” you say “I thought maybe those that would benefit from being vampires, like those that are sick or dying, but I really don't know if that's a good idea, I'd need to think on it some more, say Lirael, did your parents ever turn anyone?”

“Once” answers Lirael “he was an old man who'd helped my parents for years before I was born, and I remember my mother and father arguing about it. She said he'd earned it and father said he deserved to have some peace and that he'd go to heaven and stuff, and that it'd just hurt him in the long run. In the end mother won though.”

“So you had someone join you?” You ask

“Yeah” says Lirael, sounding sad “Uncle Nurik was really nice, we visited him a few times and he seemed really happy, helping his family and stuff.”

“What happened to him?” you ask, knowing from her reaction that it hadn't worked out.

“The Church got to him” says Lirael, shuddering in your arms “father said he shouldn't have stayed in one place, that someone was going to betray him sooner or later, other Vampires would just turn a blind eye and no one would protect him.”

You think quickly to distract her from her memories “Say Lirael, how would you like to be the first member of my clan, like, my sister in blood or whatever its called?”

Lirael twists until the two of you are face-to-face “Really?” she asks, looking overjoyed “you'd do that for me?”

“Of course” you say “if you want to”

Liraels eyes lose focus then she says “Wait, mother, father, I mean, I'd still be-”

“You'd still be their daughter” you reassure her “I'd never try to replace them.”

Then Lirael raises another concern “If I was a member of your clan, would I lose my wings?” she asks.

Hmmm,. You don't really know what happens when vampires switch clans. “I don't think so” you say slowly “normally my powers seem to work in a way that I want them to, or that benefits me, I think you'd keep your wings.”

Hmmm,. You don't really know what happens when vampires switch clans. “I don't think so” you say slowly “normally my powers seem to work in a way that I want them to, or that benefits me, I think you'd keep your wings.”

Lirael says “Ok, if you're sure sis, what do I need to do?” she looks at you curiously then adds “can I name our clan?” The thing is...you're not sure what would happen to her, not completely.

What do you do?

>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>Wait, research this first
>Other (what?)

And your clan name?

>Name it later
>I'll name it (options in next post, write-ins encouraged)
>Let Lirael name it
>Other (?)

[Meta]
Naming your clan opens up a linked vote regarding what powers your clan may develop/favour. Letting Lirael name it puts that decision in the QMs hands.
I am totally trustworthy
[End Meta]

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>Let Lirael name it
I want on that wild ride.

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>I'll name it (options in next post, write-ins encouraged)

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>Let Lirael name it

>>43392710
Does "naming" mean we get pre-made names or is it a free custom naming?
Because I don't like the sound of the latter.

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>Let Lirael name it
Can't see us naming it end in anything good, so I just roll with what the daughteru wants, even if her naming sense is terrible.

>>43392754
Write-ins are always allowed, but suggestions will be offered and outright unsuitable ones vetoed

>>43392710
>Wait, research this first
>Name it later

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>I'll name it (options in next post, write-ins encouraged)

>>43392786
Sounds okay

>>43392692
>I'd never try to replace them
I wouldn't be so hasty, I'm sure Ichor owuld make a pretty amazing offer for that.

>>43392710
>Adopt Lirael now (this pleases the Ichor in the Depths)
>I'll name it (options in next post, write-ins encouraged)

>>43392710
>Wait, research this first
>Name it later

>>43392786
How about "She-fangers"?

>>43392710
>Well I'm open to ideas.
I don't care who picks the clan powers but I want a veto on names.

ok, looks like Adopt Lirael now, and a tie between letting her name the clan and naming it now, with some voting to name it later. Breaking in favour of Shee naming it.

Please check my count, writing

>>43392881
Shee-who-fingers?

>>43392965
You are shit at innuendos anon.
And thats even with Shees name basically being made for puns.

>>43392965
>Shee-who-fingers?

Shee lets her tentacles do the work.
Her fingers are busy elsewhere.

oh and of course, Favour of the Ichor in the Depths gained, accept Gift?

>Y/N

5 minute vote, DC 20 to shape gift

>>43393007
>Y

>>43393007
>Y

>>43393007
>Y

>>43393007
>Y

>>43393007
Y

>>43393007
>N

>>43393007
>Y

ok, roll 1d20+14 Willpower, best of three

Rolled 2 + 14 (1d20 + 14)

>>43393100

Rolled 20 + 14 (1d20 + 14)

>>43393100

Rolled 10 + 14 (1d20 + 14)

>>43393100

[Ichor in the Depths favour +1]

The power of the Ichor in the Depths seethes and boils within you, you can shape it into one of four things.

Oceanic Dream (+2 ranks in Oceanic Dream, reprinted here)

At Oceanic Dream 3 you can add the following qualities to the Sea Monsters you create:
Air Breathing: The Sea Monster can breathe equally well in air or water.
Size Increase: This costs 5 psychic energy points per 3 metres you increase the sea monsters maximum dimensions by.
Armoured: You can increase the sea monsters armour by DR 1 per 3 psychic energy points spent, to a maximum DR equal to your Willpower modifier.
Improve Natural attacks: You add 1 dice of damage to the sea monsters natural attacks per 2 psychic energy points spent, to a maximum number of extra dice equal to one-half of your Willpower modifier.

At Oceanic Dream 4 you can add the following qualities to the Sea Monsters you create:
Size Increase: This costs 5 psychic energy points per 6 metres you increase the sea monsters maximum dimensions by, this replaces the Size Increase option from Oceanic Dream 2.
Gifts: Your sea monsters can have any Gifts you possess up to a maximum Rank of your Rank in Oceanic Dream. This costs a number of psychic energy per rank equal to the XP required for you to buy ranks in the power yourself, including discounts. The Sea monster has a base psychic energy pool of 10 to use these gifts, every extra 5 psychic energy points you wish it to possess (to a maximum of your own) costs 1 psychic energy point.
Intelligent: Your sea monster has intelligence, fellowship and willpower scores of 10 each, for every point you wish to increase 1 of these by, up to a maximum of your own, costs 2 psychic energy points.

Oceanic Reality 2

Oceanic Reality
You can summon the ocean from your dreams into the physical world. This peripheral is purchased in ranks, up to a maximum number of ranks as you have in Oceanic Dream.
At Oceanic Reality 1 the ocean you summon fills a space you designate up to 5 metres on each side, and up to 5 metres deep. You can have it fill a defined space (such as a building) or simply have a free-standing cube (or other shape) of water. The Ocean you summon does not extend past the space you designate, but otherwise acts as normal water (drowns those within in, extinguishes fires etc). None of your defences come through, yet. This costs 10 psychic energy.
At Oceanic Reality 2 the maximum size of your summoned ocean extend to 10 metres on each side, and up to 10 metres deep.

Dynastic Strength
Gain bonus psychic energy points based on how many descendants you have, this includes children, grandchildren etc, as well as all members of your vampire clan. Grants diminishing returns at higher numbers of qualifying descendants.

Mother Knows Best
Set rules/commandments that members of your clan find it hard to disobey. The rules can be changed and amended. Also makes your clan very resistant to mind-control and similar effects that would make them go against these rules.

As always, 10 minutes to discuss, then a 5 minute vote

will be posting clan votes and regular updates in alternate posts

>>43393234
>oceanic crunch

>>43393257
Mother knows best sounds pretty decent mostly for the mindcontrol-resist ability.
On the other hand I'd like to start investing in Oceanic Reality for the summons/Using FotDM.

>>43393257
Like dynastatic or Reality.

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>>43393257
How would Mother Knows Best work with pic related?

>>43393321
Huh. Thats kinda interesting. Though if it ends up being something that Calluna has already done it could be explained away with the interaction of distance and Calluna being a demigod of rules-breaking herself.

>>43393257
Everything but Dynastic sounds great.
I don't think we'll have any kind of off-spring in sufficient numbers to matter anytime soon.

>>43393321
possibly

>>43393257
Dynastic Strenght objectively the best.

>>43393413
Its practically useless for a indefinite amount of time.

>>43393361
We just have to be not stingy with our vampire powers, and convert enemies.

>>43393433
Not being stingy with vampire powers could backfire as badly as having a ton of kids in the middle of demon thunderdome.

>>43393433
>We just have to be not stingy with our vampire powers
We just have no reason not to be stingy with them, nor would it make sense for Shee to start making large numbers of vampires all of a sudden.
Its just plain not going to happen for numerous reasons.
IF it so happens we end up making a lot of vampires for some reason, we can still pick it up at a later time.
Generally taking powers because "they might be useful at some later point" has literally never ended up with a power actually turning out to be useful. I'm looking at you Wishcrafting.

>>43393458
Please, explain how.

>>43393458
>>43393489
It has the immediate benefit of turning Lirael almost immune to mind control if we word our rules properly.

>>43393234
>>43393257
So to break it down Dream is awesome, Reality will become awesome in a few levels, Dynastic Strength we should probably hold of on so we don't build an army too early and MKB stops Dynastic Strength being to bad an idea.

>>43393513
You're confusing Dynastic Strength with Mother Knows Best.
Which is a reasonably useful power, certainly.

And voting, 5 minute time limit

>Oceanic Dream
>Oceanic Reality
>Dynastic Strength
>Mother Knows Best

Not FD so no restrictions on post-linking, other post content.

>>43393491
That they could easily be demigod levels of power and capable of warping reality without any inherent loyalty?

>>43393527
Oh, so I was. This is embarassing.

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality

>>43393539
>Oceanic Dream

>>43393539
>>Mother Knows Best

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality
I'd be inclined for Dream, but we already can purchase it with XP anyway, and it won't be really good until we get Dreamwalking psychic powers to start teleporting in monsters.

>>43393539
>Mother Knows Best

>>43393539
>Mother Knows Best
Think of the brown tentacle daughteru

>>43393539
>>43393554
Ment to say Oceanic Reality but I copied the first on the list because Reality was the first on the other list.

>>43393539
>>Mother Knows Best

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality

>>43393539
>Oceanic Reality
Strongest shortterm investment, and it lets us use FotDM more easily.

closing and counting

>>43393592
Ignor I was right the first time.

>>43393591
>Think of the brown tentacle daughteru
The chances of her happenign to be affected by a mental influence effect that runs opposite to our commandment is fairly negligible.
Especially given her already existing natural resistance to such effects.

>>43393626
What if her resistance comes from Mother Knows Best?

>>43393719
It explicitly comes from Impossibility.

[Oceanic Reality 2 gained]

Ok, clan stuff, I'll do this one category at a time, with 15 minute vote times to allow for discussion.

Clan name will be last, to give plenty of time to offer suggestions.

Categories are
Vampire Powers (see below)
Vampire Form: Do your vampires look any different, including physical mutations (wings, extra limbs etc)?
Vampire Weaknesses: What weaknesses (if any) do your vampires have?
Psychic Powers: Normally Vampire can only gain specific psychic powers by gaining specific vampire powers, do yours have this limitation?
Gifts: Which of your Gifts (if any) can your Clan learn?
Aspects: Which of your Aspects (if any) can your Clan use?

Note that these rules will apply to the whole clan, though exceptions may exist in some cases Shee will generally not have much control over when these occur.

So first, vampire powers, what powers can Shee's clan learn?

>Standard: Normal vampire powers plus a single clan power
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers
>Beyond: Can learn all vampire powers, including other clan ones easily
>Other (what?)

Enhanced/Beyond come from Shee's Impossibility Aspect and so gives clan members a chance of developing Impossibility related powers/abilities. Shee cannot control what they gain, or who gains what. This is a power vs control trade-off

>>43393762
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers

>>43393762
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers

>>43393762
>>Standard: Normal vampire powers plus a single clan power

>>43393762
>>Beyond: Can learn all vampire powers, including other clan ones easily

>>43393762
>Standard: Normal vampire powers plus a single clan power

>>43393762
>Beyond: Can learn all vampire powers, including other clan ones easily
We give our family the best.

>>43393762
>>Standard: Normal vampire powers plus a single clan power

>>43393762
>EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

But seriously, at least Enhanced, we're only going to be turning people we already trust and I don't want to dick Lirael out of cool powers because of paranoia.

>>43393762
I rather put our clans unusual parts into the non-vampire power aspects. For more diversity, and surprise factor.
Also more psychic powers. So going with
>Standard: Normal vampire powers plus a single clan power

>>43393762
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers
Woops deleted old vote. Didn't think of the restrictions applying to Lirael too.
So unless there is a way to unlock more power for specific members of the clan
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers

>>43393762
Black wings four tentacle, all black and all retractable, with slightly paler skin. Faces do not matter, as the Impossibility aspect they gain will make their facial features impossible to remember. Members are to be identified by body type, voice, and psychic presence. All members get Telepathy at least.

>>43393860
You're shooting way too early.

>>43393860
And don't forget the tentacles can be used to reproduce.

>>43393762
Can we give chosen members of our clan somehow more Clan powers?
Like a premium membership.

>>43393762
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers

>>43393837
You want diversity...so you vote for letting them manifest fewer unique powers? The potency and number of their psionics isn't even related to this vote.

>>43393876
>though exceptions may exist in some cases Shee will generally not have much control over when these occur.

>>43393881
>You want diversity...so you vote for letting them manifest fewer unique powers?
Yes, more non-vampire powers rather than having lots of vampire powers to rely on.
Its not hard to understand.

Pally I would like to point out that if Standard or Beyond win but can't get 50% of the vote a case could be made that Enhanced should win and there will probably be bitching and anons calling other anons butthurt.

>>43393913
Case in point: preemptive bitching.

>>43393909
They don't get more non-vampire powers by giving them less vampire powers. They get more non-vampire powers by giving them more non-vampire powers. Not to mention that Impossibility powers they could manifest through Enhanced/Beyond aren't quite vampire powers.

>>43393913
The fuck are you on?
I don't particularly care, Beyond seems excessive to me but its hardly worth calling others afaggots over.
Safe that doomsaying for the actually salt-risked parts of the vote like the appearance and name.

>>43393762
>>Beyond: Can learn all vampire powers, including other clan ones easily

>>43393930
Don't be so whiny about others not powergaming. Just accept them having different taste.

>>43393949
>faulty logic
>not power gaming.

>>43393762
>Enhanced: Normal vampire powers plus a multiple clan powers

>>43393762
>>43393837
changing for Enhanced afterall
I suppose its just fair for Baalzamons new clan to be the best

>>43393975
>The clan that's mutually exclusive with Baalzamon's powers or influence
>His new clan
kek

>>43393984
>The clan that's mutually exclusive with Baalzamon's powers or influence
Its not mutually exclusive, actually. Just not within his domain right now.

closing, looks like Enhanced won, but please check.

>>43393984
Void isn't mutually exclusive with Baalzis power.

>>43394002
Actually, none won.

>>43393984
You might have misunderstood something.
Void isn't Shadows and therefore precludes Baalzamon from getting power over Shee or Lirael that way.
He could still gain power over Shee/her Clan by diffrent ways, and its pretty obvious driving Shee to become a vampire as part of his plan.

>>43393933
>The fuck are you on?
I mean that as Enhanced is the not as OP as Beyond option or the not as boring as Standard option there will probably be someone saying if all (losing option) change their vote to Enhanced it would win ant they could get something closer to what they wanted.
Then shitstorm.
>>43394023
I will change >>43393828 to Enhanced is it will break the tie.

>>43394016
Given that having access to Void requires losing access to Shadows? Kinda is.

>>43394060
You don't need to have access to shadows for Baalzamon to have influence over you..

>>43394060
Its mutually exclusive with the shadow power, not with baalzamons influence and other powers.
You would make a very dangerous mistake if you think Baalzamon can't influence Shee ever again anymore now.

>>43394058
...there was a tie? I didn't even count.

Whatever, you're sure it'll work out for the best.

“Well” you say to Lirael “it involves you biting me, only I need to bite you too...”

You're first efforts are a little tentative, followed by some giggling and embarrassment from both of you, but eventually you have your first clanmate, your sister-in-blood: Lirael. She shows no obvious signs of being in your clan immediately, but you're sure they'll appear over time.

XXX

It was over a week after you adopted Lirael that you made any progress towards linking your realm to Randolph.

Eventually you did manage it however, and now Randolphs canyon is linked to your realm. You haven't noticed any change in the flow of time in your realm, though Randolph claims to be able to think and act, such as he can, in both your realm and his home, without any seeming difficulty.

[Interdimensional Teleport gained]

“That looks kinda weird” says Rainya, as you inspect your handiwork.

“It looks fine to me” you say. The both of you stand before the portal linking your realm to Randolphs home: a semicircle of grey-blue light that twists and deforms in the air. Upon its surface strange symbols like writing swim into focus before disappearing again. This close to it you can hear the whispers, the susurration of things from outside, far outside, trying to convince you to let them in, you ignore them.

Through the portal spills vines covered in leaves as Randoplhs forest body spills into your Realm, but there's more than enough room for a pair of people to walk in and out of the portal.

“What if someone finds Randolph?” Asks one of the Rainyas at your side “I mean, can they break in here?”

You shake your head “Randolph – show Rainya your new trick.”

-Watch this- says Randolphs voice in your heads with evident enthusiasm. Before you the portal shrinks in size as the vines spilling through it twist and double back on themselves, gripping the edges of the portal. In moments it is barely large enough to poke a finger through.

“Impressive” says Rainya dryly “but what if someone hurts Randolph? Or sneaks in?”

-I'm too big to hurt!- insists Randolph -And I'll watch it really carefully!-

“And if he needs me” you reassure Rainya “I'll get there as fast as I can.”

-Yeah!- agrees Randolph -Mother can do anything-

Rainya giggles as you say “Randolph, please...”

XXX

You head down to breakfast and to what will be a very uncomfortable conversation with Kaelyn, except things don't quite go as planned...

When you walk into the kitchen, everyone is already there, staring at the holovid, showing the morning news.

“Good morning?” you say, you are ignored.

“-brings the total to four people killed in this grisly manner” says the talking head on the holo “no one is quite sure what happened, but we are getting unconfirmed reports that these deaths are much like the methods used by so-called 'dust ghosts' outside the hive.”

Another voice cuts in and the focus changes to an older man “Now, now Kelly” he says with a patronising smile “dust-ghosts aren't real, as we all know, the brutal nature of these killings must be as a result of some sort of gang warfare or a warning from some criminal figure who-”

“What's going on?” you ask the others, cutting across the holo, they all turn to you.

“Dust ghosts, in the Hive?” Rainya sounds disbelieving

“Are Dust ghosts real?” Lirael asks you.

“They must just be a cover for someone” says Kaelyn “still, four born vampires killed in one night, in the same manner, in different places in the Hive? Weird.”

Dev gives you a thoughtful look “just the sort of thing” he says quietly “that the Reunited would want checked out, and might look to the only one of their number with any experience with dust ghosts.”

Yeah, the thought had crossed your mind, this could be some sort of trap, or ruse, or dust ghosts might have actually found there way into the Hive, but, how?

“Dust ghosts usually come out at night” you say “having a reason to be out at night would be useful and-”

“Oh can we Shee?” asks your sister enthusiastically “It is Lancea after all!”

“Already?” you say in amazement “Lancea isn't until-” No wait, you count the days, yes, Lancea begins tonight.

Lancea is a Apollyon annual holiday when people are supposed to remember lost friends and family members. It began as a time of mourning but grew into three days of feasting and partying for some, and a time of ghost stories and an ideal setting for bad horror holovids for others.

“In the Hive” says Kaelyn “its not unusual for young kids to go door to door, scaring people for treats” She gives you a wry look “You could pass for almost Liraels age you know”

You give her a dirty look “I don't look that young” you point out your new, improved, much larger form.

“The one you show people does though” she points out, smirking “besides, who is going to look at two kids out hunting for treats? You'd need a minder of course.”

“What if we don't do this” you try to change the topic “We have a lot to worry about, assassins, spies, gathering intel on the other Reunited-”

“You should look into this though” says Rainya “if its a trap, best to spring it early, I bet it's Kulrathe and he'll ask you to look into it in a few more days, once there are more.”

“Plus if there are Dust Ghosts in the Hive” says Dev “better to deal with them.”

Lirael gives you gives you a wide-eyed begging look “Please can we collect candy?” she asks in a small voice “please?”

It would be an ideal way to check out the places the murders happened.

You sigh, what will you be doing?

>Going with Lirael, as her adult guardian
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult
>We'll all go
>We're not doing (activity options in next vote)
>Other (?)

>>43394298
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult

Are the 4 vampire Crimsonthornes? around Jade's age?

>>43394174
>Defining our clan traits in a spooky edition thread
Brilliant.

>>43394298
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult
Raynia can be the adult, I bet she's into that kind of play.

>>43394298
>We'll all go
Shee and Lirael as kids, Rainya as older sister and Dev and Kaelyin can be the parents.

>>43394298
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult
>We'll all go

>>43394298
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult

>>43394298
>>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult

>>43394298
>Going with Lirael looking like a kid, someone else can be the adult
>We'll all go
Have we got Jade yet and did we have that talk with Kaelyn?

>>43394338
>You head down to breakfast and to what will be a very uncomfortable conversation with Kaelyn, except things don't quite go as planned...

>>43394305
>Are the 4 vampire Crimsonthornes? around Jade's age?

No, you'll find out more in next update, superficially they have nothing to connect them beyond being vampires.

>>43394346
Ok I missed that, it just seemed odd to have a one week time skip with that on our to do list.

>>43394420
The week timeskip was from when we adopted Lirael, which was during the downtime a week before we went to Jade.
We basically moved forward to present time again.

>>43394420
ah, I wasn't being clear, sorry.

Lireal + Randolph stuff happened during the downtime, Jade (last thread) is after it.

You had a flashback and are back in the present time.

The clan votes are happening in the abstract for Shee.

>>43394438
>which was during the downtime a week before we went to Jade
It was during the downtime, but a unspecified amount of time before meeting Jade, since we don't know how much time was between linking to Randolph and present day.

[Enhanced wins: the clan can have multiple clan powers]

Form: What does your clan look like?

>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form
>Inhuman: They look very different - they might have strange colouring, misshapen faces, look like rotting corpses, etc. Their basic size and shape is normal for their species, but they are obviously different in some way.
>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc.
>Other (what?)

Again, Bizarre is from Corruption, so individual clan members might gain access to Corruption-related powers.

Most clan members will have this appearance, though variations will exist, outside of Shees control.

Anything other than Normal is very open, once a category has been chosen, I'll have a follow-up vote of the more popular/thematic suggestions from players, plus any other options I feel are suitable.
Obviously if a specific custom appearance has overwhelming support, there will not be a follow-up.

[Meta]
Don't use Calluna as an absolute guide, as a (theoretical) blood relation, her powers and appearance are not solely dependent upon the clan standard.
[End Meta]

>>43394477
>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc.

>>43394452
OK as I missed
>You head down to breakfast and to what will be a very uncomfortable conversation with Kaelyn, except things don't quite go as planned...
Let's say this one's on me not reading.

>>43394477
>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
Otherwordly: They look beautiful, but there is something....... off about their appearance that doesn't mesh well with reality.

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form
Since they won't have natural disguise like Shee, giving them bizzare stuff from the start is just inviting trouble.

>>43394477
>>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form
No need to stand out to outsiders.

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form
I want the elders of our clan be recognizable by getting more and more alien, that doesn't work with already being weird from the start.

>>43394477
>Bizarre

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form
We can just vote for allowing them gifts so they can get stuff like tentacles. Giving them baseline weird obvious traits just makes them super easy to recognize and invites trouble.
I'd be inclined for a single tentacle or something like that, but all of our clan shouldn't be Calluna.

>>43394477
>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc.

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
>>Bizarre: Custom appearance chosen by anons, wings, tentacles, extra eyes, forms that simply don't make sense etc.
Genital tentacles

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
>Normal: Retractable fangs, but otherwise the same as the creatures base form

>>43394477
Might be a bit late, but could we make them become increasingly bizzarre(Corruption influenced) over time?
Or have a difference between living and dead vampires?

Closing, looks like a win for a normal appearance for the clan.

>>43394726
>could we make them become increasingly bizzarre(Corruption influenced) over time?
>Or have a difference between living and dead vampires?

Yes, this can be expressed in clan powers/Gifts

>>43394726
I would back both of those anon.

>>43394753
>Yes, this can be expressed in clan powers/Gifts
Good to know. Thanks.

“What are we even supposed to be” you say, as you and Lirael walk down a street thronging with people of all ages later that evening.

You are Lirael are dressed in similar-looking one-peice suits that look like they're made of some sort of metallic cloth, and you have a fishbowl-like helmet and a toy gun that looks like it was designed by a demented electrician, with flashing lights and spinning disks all over it. Your friends are all wearing customer that look far less ridiculous than yours and Liraels.

“You're Suzie-Q and Suzie-R” explains Rainya “They're this really cute pair of clone sisters in this animated series I've been watching and they travel through space and have adventures and-”

You tune her out, keeping your eyes and other senses open for anything out of the ordinary. Thankfully your illusion easily incorporates your costume, and you're is far from the strangest outfit on display. You see a lot of families taking their children door-to-door to 'scare' the residents into giving them candy, and you see plenty of young adults in costumes ranging from heroic to silly, and from artistic to blatantly slutty.

You're on the street of one of the murder victims, and their residence still has police tape all around it, as well as bulky security locks fitted on the residence, but no obvious police presence in sight.

The four victims were all living vampires, they were:

Father Herman Jusil, a Priest of the Five, aged 101, unmarried and lived alone.
Cecelia Altingham, student, aged 19, lived in a rented house with 3 others, but was alone at the time she was killed
Malkili Gurty, artist, aged 25, lived in a rented attic, the owners of the house are away on holiday in another Hive.
Trekan Nichols, unemployed, former truck driver, aged 67, was killed whilst sleeping on the street. Had several convictions for public driunkeness, drug use, attacking people to drink their blood, was allegedly badly beaten by an elder vampire over the last thing.

All four where torn limb from limb, and their bone marrow was removed – they way dust ghosts kill. There were no witnesses.

You're just outside Father Jusils house.

What do you do?

>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up
>Examine house from the outside only (don't go inside)
>Teleport into house to look around (alone? with anyone?)
>Other (what?)

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up

>>43395029
>>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up

>>43395029
Does this neighborhood look wealthy enough to afford those anti-teleportation wards?

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up
>Examine house from the outside only (don't go inside)

>>43395062
no

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up
>Examine house from the outside only (don't go inside)

>>43395004
>and their residence still has police tape all around it
I vaguely remember from way back in Thread 1, that Dust Devils don't enter buildings. That was one of our options for escaping.
Am I misremembering that?

>>43395029
>Collect candy from residents, talk about Father Jusils murder, see what you can pick up

>>43395122
they can't enter homes, or cross lines of salt (and yes, you bought salt with you).

[Your vampires look normal]

Weaknesses

Vampires posses lots of different possible weaknesses. A choice here will mean that most of your clan will possess this weakness. Why pick a weakness at all?

Thematic: Power often comes at a price, and it gives the clan character.
Rules: Weaknesses count as a flaw, gaining the vampire NPC more XP over time

Suggested weaknesses

>None: Weaknesses are for losers
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm
>Harmful: Sunlight, silver, wood etc. There is something that hurts your clan more than usual, not always useful in identifying them though.
>Anathema: Anti-magic powers/objects, holy objects/locations etc. Something hurts your clan bad, and singles them out for easy identification
>Other (what?)

It is assumed that your clan will only have one general category of weakness (if any) but you can pick multiple ones if you wish. Again, there are subchoices in categories. A follow-up vote may be called if needed.

The QM may apply certain weaknesses automatically to individuals if certain vampire powers, Gifts or Aspects are chosen, for example those with a power called Destruction usually develop weakness to holy powers, those with Shadows tend towards weakness to sunlight etc.

>>43395254
>Emotional sensitivity.

>>43395254
>Harmful: Sunlight, silver, wood etc. There is something that hurts your clan more than usual, not always useful in identifying them though.

>>43395254
>None: Weaknesses are for losers

>>43395254
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm
I like the idea of no shadows. Its a nice in-joke.

>>43395254
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm

>>43395254
>>43395275
Seconding

>>43395254
>Anathema: Anti-magic powers/objects, holy objects/locations etc. Something hurts your clan bad, and singles them out for easy identification

>>43395254
Seconding >>43395275
clan weakness (style): vampire suffers a -2 penalty on all rolls unless wearing the right outfit and having at least 1 hour/day to do their hair and face

>>43395254
>They sparkle when in direct sunlight

>>43395275
I don't even know what thats supposed to mean.

>>43395254
Backing >>43395302

>>43395275
Supporting this
>>43395254

>>43395254
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm
Their mirror image doesn't act in reflection to them and acts like its own person

>>43395342
>>43395254
>>43395275

Additionally, clan is all female.

>>43395254
>>None: Weaknesses are for losers

>>43395345
I admit, I chuckled

vetoed

>>43395254
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm
Like these
>>43395302
>>43395359

>>43395254
>>43395359
I like that.
Its thematically fitting

>>43395254
>Niche: Garlic, running water, no shadow, no reflection etc. These weaknesses are only a hinderance in specific situations and usually serve to identify rather than harm

>>43395367
Surely it not dumber than
>>43395275

>>43395367
Good call, that does not fit with Void powers.

Niche it is then, leading suggestions are for no shadows and for reflections that don't act normal.

I'll wait 5 minutes for more suggestions, then hold a follow up vote on both of these in a yes/no format for each suggested weakness.

>>43395488
I'd go for shadow's not acting normal as well. Same with recording/pictures.

>>43395488
I could think of a whole bunch of stuff stolen from VtM. But most of those would fall more under harmful.
Willfull Mirror Image sounds nice because its suitably weird and "impossible", but I don't particularly like the connection to Mirror.
No shadow is funny as hell though.

>>43395488
Can we have both? we have a pretty OP powerset anyway.

>>43395537
Maybe having mirrors seem to crack in places that the vampire's reflection passes over before looking normal when it's not there anymore?

Shadows
>Normal
>No shadow
>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)

Reflections
>Normal
>No reflection
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)

Include pictures/recordings in Reflections rule?
>Y/N

5 minute vote, but may be extended if needed.

>>43395559
>then hold a follow up vote on both of these in a yes/no format for each suggested weakness
That a clear yes.

>>43395568
Thats a interesting idea too, or maybe have the Mirror image perpetually acting scared of the vampire?

>>43395588
>>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>Y

>>43395588
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)
>Y

>>43395588
>No shadow
>>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>N

>>43395588
>Reflections are of their self-perception, instead of how they actually look.
>Shadows normal
>Y

>>43395588
>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
N
Its better if it can't be proven. You always think you saw it, but the pictures/video are always normal

>>43395588
>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>Y

>>43395588
>Acts strange
>Acts strange
>N

>>43395588
>No shadow
>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>N
I prefer the cracking or scared reflection ideas to the independent movement one.

>>43395588
>No shadow
>Reflections act strange
>Yes but suttle.

>>43395588
>No shadow
>Acts strange (moves, wrong shape etc)
The shadow only appears occasionally when the vampire is in trouble or worrying about something

>>Acts strange (moves independently, wrong appearance etc)
>N

>>43395588
Shadows
>Normal

Reflections
>Normal

>N

>>43395647
>Reflections are normal
>Not applying reflections to pictures/recordings
WHAT HAPPENS NOW

closing and counting

>>43395419
You're just jealous your suggestions wasn't accepted.

>>43395763
It won though.

>>43395763
It wasn't even me, I just threw that out as a joke.

Just talking to the neighbours seems to be the best way to do things for now. Well, the 'adults' do the talking, you just listen as you fill your bag up with suger-filled goodies. You gather all sorts of information about the event.

“Father Jusil seemed like a kindly old man, leaved here for years, no trouble.”
“I heard he had trouble finding feeders though, used to go to one of the open blood banks.”
“Kept to himself mostly”
“Was writing his memoirs, stuff he's done as a young man, places he's been.”
“Wasn't a rich man, not all vampires are, but I heard he can from an important clan but ran away, changed his name you know.”
“The Five? Don't know if he followed one of them more than the others, seemed to treat them all as important.”
“Enemies? No, none that I know of, of course you hear stories, but I don't think he owed money or hurt any kids or anything.”
“I heard he had money trouble, owed money to some bad people.”
“Dust ghosts are a story ignorant dusters tell, no them murders is to cover something up I tells you.”

You refrain from putting the last person straight and head away.

“Well” says Kaelyn “We've tried most of the street, maybe we should move on?”

“But my bags not full” says Lirael mournfully.

“You can get more” Rainya tells her “at our next stop.”

The night is only just starting, and although the younger children are heading home, you easily have enough time to visit another site of a killing.

Where do you go?

>Stay here to investigate (doing what?)
>Cecelia Altingham home
>Malkili Gurty home
>Trekan Nichols street
>Other (?)

At the next location it is assumed you'll be asking more questions, unless you specifically say you want to go into the buildings the murders happened in (or in Trekans case, the bridge he was sleeping under).

>>43395802
>Malkili Gurty home

>>43395802
>The Five? Don't know if he followed one of them more than the others, seemed to treat them all as important.
He openly followed the Five?
Isn't that borderline illegal on Apollyon?

>>43395802
>Cecelia Altingham home

>>43395802
>Go into the buildings the murders happened in
Starting here.

>>43395802
>Cecelia Altingham home

>>43395802
>Trekan Nichols street
Investigate his bridge too

>>43395802
>Stay here to investigate
Let's get a look at them memoirs.

>>43395802
>Was writing his memoirs, stuff he's done as a young man, places he's been.”
>Stay here to check out his memoirs
Its a lead as good as any.

>>43395802
>Go into the buildings the murders happened in
Starting here.

>>43395802
>>43395840
changing to
>Check out his house

Going into his house, please roll 3d20

Boosting senses
Searching
See if the others find anything

And vote on extra psychic energy used to boost senses.

Rolled 19, 8, 10 = 37 (3d20)

>>43396001

Rolled 19, 17, 13 = 49 (3d20)

>>43396001

Rolled 10, 1, 19 = 30 (3d20)

>>43396001

Rolled 9, 4, 7 = 20 (3d20)

>>43396001
0, Enhance Senses was one of the wildly inefficient ones to boost, IIRC.

>>43395802
>Stay here to investigate (doing what?
Get in his house

[Your clans shadows don't act normally, because they're not really shows exactly, more slivers of the void. They sometimes change shape, or point to things the vampire needs to know about, or that might threaten him or her. Similarly the clans reflects aren't true reflections, they might simply follow their actions a moment too late or early, or they might whisper to the vampire, or look like a different version of that vampire, a person they might have been. The shadows help sometimes, the reflections aren't helpful. The more powerful and old the vampire, the more pronounced the weaknesses are.]

Psychic Powers, do they have them? Your clan will automatically be able to access some psychic powers via vampire powers, but do you want to allow them access to all the disciplines you know? Or perhaps just some.

Psychic Powers

>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)
>All (all you know anyway)

This is for the clan as a whole, and is based upon Impossibility – selecting all will mean some vampires may gain impossibility-related powers.

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396057
>>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)
They should at least have Psychoportation.

>>43396057
>All
Just like Mommy

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)
Thats already a huge amount.
And the only other one I would want them to have, Shee doesn't have.

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)
We can always hand psychic powers out per Psychic Infection

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)
Psychoportation and Metapsionics are pretty useful. Psychometabolism is slightly redundant, but eh, if it can stack the bonuses, it'd be good. Passives on it are great.

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>slap psychic powers on someone with infection
>give him metapsionics
More controllable and directed psychic power development, and none of the risks.

>>43396057
Switching >>43396116 to Limited

>>43396291
>More controlled
In what way?

>>43396057
>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

>>43396307
With giving them free access we have no control, while with psychic infection we decide what they can and can't get. Seems pretty obvious to me.

>>43396057
>Limited (some disciplines/powers, possible follow-up vote)

>>43396057
>>None (only those accessible via vampire powers)

closing, I think None wins but please check my count

>>43396357
Looks like 8:10 for none to me.

>>43396357
wow, thats boring

>>43396339
You do realize the second you give one metapsionics they get psychic infection due to Telepathy being a standard vampiric discipline? And that Limited was only access to one to three psychic disciplines, not free access to all psionics? And that they're *still* going to have a psionics-themed bloodline power?

>>43396410
Our Clan is already extremly loaded with powers.
And they get most psychic powers from vampure powers.
So it makes barely any difference.

>>43396425
>not free access to all psionics?
Access to all psionics Shee knows, which at some point will be all most likely.
Except Chaos magic.
Fuck chaos magic.

>You do realize the second you give one metapsionics they get psychic infection due to Telepathy being a standard vampiric discipline?
Yes I realise that, it was the point I was making.
Just give someone Shee trusts access to metapsionics, bam more controlled access to psychic powers for all.

>>43396464
>He thinks limited is all

We should have made a clan of succubi, these are much easier to make.

>>43396425
>You do realize the second you give one metapsionics they get psychic infection due to Telepathy being a standard vampiric discipline?
I took it as being the plan.

> And that Limited was only access to one to three psychic disciplines, not free access to all psionics?
I fail to see how that relates to the argument?
Its more in addition to the huge batch they get anyway.

>And that they're *still* going to have a psionics-themed bloodline power?
And?

>>43396527
>Its more in addition to the huge batch they get anyway.
You mean limited access to Telepathy and Clairsentience?

>>43396510
To make yes, but then it gets difficult.
Succubi can be a pain to manage. Just look at Paladin of Joy.

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>>43396510
I agree. A pair of horns and wings, a nice tail with a heart at the end, some tasteful lingerie, delicious flat chest, thunder thighs, nice hips and dat ass. Add some fluffy ears for extra moe and it's perfect.

>>43396539
>You mean limited access to Telepathy and Clairsentience?
And Void, actually.
What else is there in good powers Shee even has?

>>43396543
Shee's succubi would be different from Sireyi's succubi.
For straters, a small clan of carefully made succubi is not the same as a ridiculously large nation full of instinctively traumatised succubi.

>>43396588
Psychoportation is basically the only one and Void does a lot of that just better.
I guess psychic shield etc. is kinda nice.

>>43396604
>Shee's succubi would be different from Sireyi's succubi.
Lots of the problems with succubi stem from their innate succubuttness.
Nah, I rather stick with the vampires.
Population control is way easier too.

>>43396588
Void isn't a psychic discipline, it's a clan power.

Psychoportation, dimensional arsenal is an excellent utility feature, as is being able to teleport shit around in a more convenient manner than gates or jumps.
Metapsionics, because it massively amplifies all other psychic powers, allows them to better defend themselves against mind-affecting attacks and lets them fuck with the powers of others. Subtle Talent alone is worth it.
Psychometabolism, because Life Drain is OP and the passives are really nice to have, though it is a bit redundant.

>>43396687
>Void isn't a psychic discipline
Its basically the same as the Shadow vampire power, which reads "Gives access to the psychic skill Shadow Craft". So its as good as a psychic power for the purpose of the conversation.
I have no idea why you're trying to be anal about it.

>>43396687
>Void isn't a psychic discipline, it's a clan power.
Technically its a impossibility skill.

You head around the side of a house, wait until no one can see you, and then you teleport all of you inside the residence of the late Father Jusil.

The stink of blood is the first thing that hits you, and the others grimace, Kaelyns face going green. You force down your disgust and sharpen your senses, looking for the smallest clues.

As you spread out you can see that the police have taken away anything that might be evidence, but haven't cleaned the scene yet – there is still a lot of blood here, and small scraps of flesh.

“No computer” Kaelyn observes, checking out the old priests study.

“Evidence” says Dev “contacts, what sites he visited, stuff like that.”

“Some papers in here” says Rainya from the kitchen “looks like notes for his book, got coffee and food stains on them.”

“Looks like a shrine” Lirael says from another room “there's like statues of the Five here, all neat and tidy.”

You look around the living room, where Father Jusil died. Its a mess here, with furniture overturned and smashed, but not as messy as you'd expect from an actual fight, more someone flailing around to hit something they couldn't touch. Blood is soaked into the carpet. This certainly looks like a dust ghost attack, but...indoors, how?

Rainya brings through the notes, just scribblings really, outlines of what he ewanted to write, he'd visited almost every Hive on Apollyon, and had been offworld for several years, had gone to every Hive close to yours. He expresses regret for sometimes taking his feeders by force, wanted to devote several chapters to both apologising and saying how it wasn't his fault, according to the notes. Mixed in with the notes are a list of the bloodbanks he used. You research them quickly using your multitool.

Angelworks (low hive, rough area)
Pink Delight (blood house and a brothel)
Home Now (A homeless shelter where the homeless 'pay' using their blood)
Klinkeas (middle class restaurant for vampires, serves regular food and provides 'dining companions')

“There's not much here” says Dev apologetically “police took everything.”

“There's enough” you say “this was either a dust-ghost in a house, or someone who knows more about them that the average hiver, we know where Father Jusil went to feed, and that sometimes he hurt his feeders.”

“So what” says Rainya “he hurts one of his feeders, and they kill him and make it look like a dust ghost attack?” She sounds like that's an insane theory.

“The shrine is untouched” you say, shrugging “so it probably wasn't a religious thing.”

What do you do?

>Head to another murder location (which?)
>Head to a blood house (which?)
>Go home (ends search, for now)
>Other (what?)

>>43396687
I'm not, personally, seeing any reason why we would want literally every vampire ever made from Shees clan to have access to those.

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
>Trekan Nichols street

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
>Trekan Nichols street

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
Malkili Gurty

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
Gurty
He seems like the closest in social class and I want to see if they went to the same feeding places

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
>Trekan Nichols

>>43396813
>Another of the suspects was known to hurt his feeders. Check the other two for similar behavior. We may have someone playing vigilante.

>>43396813
>Head to another murder location (which?)
>Malkili Gurty home

>>43396813
>>43396849

>>43396918
Thats a good point, changing to
>Gurty

I was thinking of maybe finding someone more willing to talk, or someone no one would notice if we mindprobed them. But that works too.

Looks like checking out Gurty it is

>>43396738
Because Nihil Dominus isn't a psychic discipline and acting like the fact that the thing they were always going to get still exists makes up for not getting a bunch of other powers I wanted them to have in addition to it is pissing me off more than actually losing the vote?

>>43396777
Nihil Dominus is an Impossibility skill, Void is a clan power. Same way Shadowcraft is considered psychic but Shadows is a vampire thing.

>>43396849
Because it's a pain in the ass to actively grant them, having a generally more powerful vampiric host would be preferable and there's no real reason to not grant them?

Gifts, Shee has lots of them, of varying power, which ones can her vampires gain on their own?

>None: Shee must personally bestow a Gift using her own power
>Minimal: Her clan can gain the first rank in the weaker Gifts only, and take multiple ranks in mutation-based Gifts (i.e. tentacles, or gift-like abilities based upon Shee's physical form, as well as alternate forms she has)
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.
>All: Any Gift Shee has, the Clan can learn, up to the rank she has in that Gift.

This is a Corruption-based power, Some and All mean some vampires might learn Corruption-based powers.
With any option, even 'All' Shee can designate some Gifts as off-limits but must do so for the entire Gift, for the entire clan.

>>43397038
>Minimal: Her clan can gain the first rank in the weaker Gifts only, and take multiple ranks in mutation-based Gifts (i.e. tentacles, or gift-like abilities based upon Shee's physical form, as well as alternate forms she has)

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>vampires take Feast of Life
Double vampires?

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>>43397038
>Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>>43397038
>All: Any Gift Shee has, the Clan can learn, up to the rank she has in that Gift.

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.

>>43397038
>Minimal: Her clan can gain the first rank in the weaker Gifts only, and take multiple ranks in mutation-based Gifts (i.e. tentacles, or gift-like abilities based upon Shee's physical form, as well as alternate forms she has)
Can we have them get access to more powerful gifts as Letum?

>>43397038
>Some: Her clan can gain multiple ranks in weaker gifts, mutation-based gifts, and up to 2 ranks in stronger gifts.
Stronger gifts like "Oceanic Dream" or, stronger gifts like "Inevitability"?

>>43397272
both of those are strong gifts

>>43397038
>Minimal: Her clan can gain the first rank in the weaker Gifts only, and take multiple ranks in mutation-based Gifts (i.e. tentacles, or gift-like abilities based upon Shee's physical form, as well as alternate forms she has)

>>43397217
>Can we have them get access to more powerful gifts as Letum?

yes

>>43397343
How would we do that? Vote-wise?
I'd be changing my
>>43397123
Some to Minimal(Vitoi)/Some(Letum) if thats it

>>43397343
When would that be decided?

counting, and posting follow-up vote in 5 minutes based on limiting powers based on vampire type

Letum (true vampires) will automatically have the most access to gifts, but Vitoi (born vampires) and Inhabilis (dhampirs) can be restricted

Restriction of Gifts by Vampire type, 5 minute vote

Vitoi (living vampires)
>Some
>Minimal
>None

Inhabilis (dhampirs)
>Some
>Minimal
>None

>>43397599
>Minimal
>None

>>43397599
>Some
>Minimal

>>43397599
>Minimal
>Minimal

>>43397599
>Minimal
>Minimal

>>43397599
>Some
>Minimal

looks like minimal for both wins

The street Makili Gurty lives on is several levels away, but you make it ion good time, and there are plenty of people still handing out treats to kids, although the evening is wearing on. You head up and down the street, collecting candy, and being mistaken for a young girl, your ears open as you listen for the gossip about Gurty, prompted by your friends questioning, they make sure to ask about his feeding habits, and any violent tendencies he might have.

“Quiet lad, no trouble, kept to himself a lot.”
“Oh all sorts of art, digital, paper drawings, paintings.”
“Loved to sketch his girlfriends a lot.”
“Used to promise them the world too, that he'd shower them in gold, marry them, but never very good at keeping his promises.”
“Well he was y'know an artist, high-strung, smashed up all his easel once, sometimes tore up his work or threw it out the window.”
“No, never heard of him hitting anyone, not ever.”
“Well he had his girls didn't he? Didn't need to go to blood houses, well, sometimes he was between girlfriends.”
“I think he went to that one on level 16, or was it 21” (Pink Delight and Klinkaes are on levels 16 and 20, the other blood houses Father Jusil visited are not near those levels)

Its getting late in the evening, and most of the houses are ignoring the last few callers. Both your and Liraels sacks are bulging with candy and treats.

“Where now?” asks Kaelyn, adding as Lirael yawns “over to the homeless guy?”

“Or the blood houses?” asks Dev quietly, giving you a concerned look. You swallow, your throat dry. Its been a few days since Lirael fed on you...going into one of those places could be putting a lot of temptation in your way. Still, you don't have to go in yourself, the others could go in your stead.

What now?
>Investigate Gurtys home
>Other murder location (which?)
>Visit Blood House (which? who?)
>Other (what?)

>>43397764
>Other murder location
Don't care which, we just need to find out if they fed at the same place.

>>43397764
>Visit Blood House (which? who?)
The diner. Whores don't really have the time and opportunity for vigilante murder as much

>You swallow, your throat dry. Its been a few days since Lirael fed on you...going into one of those places could be putting a lot of temptation in your way.
I don't see the problem getting in a quicky before heading in.

>>43397764
>Other murder location (which?)
The chick then, the hobo doesn't have as easy acccess and choice in feeding pla e

>>43397764
>>Investigate Gurtys home

>>43397764
>Other murder location (which?)
>Cecelia Altingham
Easier to get info on if she lived together with people.