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>>43740430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asyO6tonbLQ

You set Gohan and Peppa down in Capsule Corp.'s atrium, walking with Bulma and Goku as your kids hurry over to your Camels. Yamcha and Pantea notice the three of you while sparring, your scar-faced friend giving you all a wave. "Hey guys, how's it going?"

"Doing good, Yamcha!" Goku greets cheerfully. "Haha, looks like you both are still training hard."

A quick sense of their Ki tells you Yamcha's not raised his Power Level all that much, yet. Pantea however has been improving a good deal. Power Level's probably almost at 100. Yamcha lets out a laugh. "Of course, can't exactly let myself fall behind." He then pats his daughter on the head. "And this little squirt keeps surprising her dad."

She just grins at that praise. Bulma shakes her head. "Just make sure you get your studies in, sweeite." She gives a frown. "Oh don't give me that look, you're almost where I was when I was your age."

Curious. "Oh? And just what were you doing at her age?"

"Made a laser cannon, helped fix Jaco's spaceship, among other things." she responds with a shrug. She notices the concerned looks she gets for the first part. "...what? I thought he might be an evil alien. I was young!" ...right then.

Pantea bumps a little pebble on the ground with her foot, then looks directly at you. "Mom, dad, can I talk with Auntie Maple for a bit?"

That catches them by surprise, the two looking at each other, then at you. You can tell Yamcha's talking with his wife telepathically, but shrug and tell her to go ahead. "All right kiddo."

She quickly grabs you by the arm and pulls you some distance away, an awkward look on her face. "Auntie Maple, how'd you figure what you wanted with... y' know?"

>A. It doesn't take a mind reader to tell you don't like studying. Why not?
>B. Just sort of... happened, I guess. One moment I land on Earth, the next I'm fighting a giant robot, and then part of the Turtle School
>C. Something else?

>>43740465
>B. Just sort of... happened, I guess. One moment I land on Earth, the next I'm fighting a giant robot, and then part of the Turtle School

But
>A. It doesn't take a mind reader to tell you don't like studying. Why not?

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>>43740430
>Let's all try to have some fun, ok?
Oh boy, here I go shitstormin' again!

>>43740465
>. "Auntie Maple, how'd you figure what you wanted with... y' know?"
That's a... kind of a confusing sentence but I guess she is asking why we took up martial arts as hard as we did?

>B
Then
>A

>>43740465
>C. Well, I had a bunch of memories and knowledge crammed into my brain with a gizmo, and I also had my brother around to help me figure out what we should do, so all that, I guess?

>>43740465
>>A. It doesn't take a mind reader to tell you don't like studying. Why not?
>>B. Just sort of... happened, I guess. One moment I land on Earth, the next I'm fighting a giant robot, and then part of the Turtle School

Hey Kato, if a demon or sorcerer places someone's soul into limbo after that person is killed, does the demon/sorcerer what did it have authority over that soul when it comes to wishes, like being able to deny people's resurrections as long as they are in limbo, much like Goku refused to go to Earth?

>>43740619
The demon/sorcerer's hold on the soul would wear off when they get vanquished and sent to hell in this hypothetical curse, right?

>>43740465
>B
then
>A
> I guess the real question is what do you want to do right now?

>>43740465
>>A. It doesn't take a mind reader to tell you don't like studying. Why not?
>>B. Just sort of... happened, I guess. One moment I land on Earth, the next I'm fighting a giant robot, and then part of the Turtle School

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>>43740619
Like Dabura's spit?

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>>43740465
Huh. Okay, you can figure out what she's asking, but... well, how to best phrase this? "Well, I had a bunch of memories and knowledge crammed into my brain with a gizmo, and I also had my brother around to help me figure out what we should do, so all that, I guess? Other than that everything just sorta... happened, I guess. One moment I land on Earth, the next I'm fighting a giant robot, and then part of the Turtle School with brobro, Goku, Chi-chi, and Krillin." You crack a smirk at her. "Obviously your situation's a bit different."

"...we do have a robot." she comments with a laugh, looking over to see if Gohan is trying to hit it with a mop again. Thankfully Gohan's busy taking a little ride with his sister on the back of Larry.

You sit down on the grass, getting to her level. "Pantea, kiddo, it doesn't take a mind reader to figure out that you don't like studying all that much. Why not?"

She places her arms behind her back, looking at the ground. "...'s boring."

Well, here we go. "Boring, huh? What do you want to do right now?"

She nods emphatically. "I wanna get strong, like you, and dad, and Mister Goku! But mom wants me to spend time studying and learning stuff and... ugh."

>A. Tell her about your experiences learning and how it's helped you
>B. Do your mom and dad know?
>C. Tell you what, you promise to keep your studies up at least until the Tournament, and I'll give you something in return
>D. Something else?

>>43740804
>C. Tell you what, you promise to keep your studies up at least until the Tournament, and I'll give you something in return

>>43740804
>A,B,C
Auntie Mapple is best Aunt.

>>43740804
>A. Tell her about your experiences learning and how it's helped you
"See the Gravity Chamber. That didn't come from martial arts. That came from being smart and knowing a whole lot of stuff."
>C. Tell you what, you promise to keep your studies up at least until the Tournament, and I'll give you something in return

>>43740804
>A. Tell her about your experiences learning and how it's helped you
>C. Tell you what, you promise to keep your studies up at least until the Tournament, and I'll give you something in return

She's like five. Of course she doesn't like studying. She's also way too young to have any idea of what she actually wants out of life. If she still feels this way when she's older, then maybe we can think about convincing her parents.

>>43740840
True we should explain why being smart can make you stronger as well.

>>43740804
>C. Tell you what, you promise to keep your studies up at least until the Tournament, and I'll give you something in return

Also, Bulma seems like she's being pretty reasonable about this. She's fine with Pantea training as long as she ALSO gets her studies done.

If it becomes obvious at some point that she's truly miserable when it comes to studying, or it seems like Bulma is trying to push her into a career that she's going to hate, then it might be alright to say something, but right now, things seem just fine for her.

>>43740804
>D. Remind her that it's every man, woman, and alien for themselves in this world and that to be at the top you gotta keep others down.

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>>43740804
Oh kid. You smile and let out a little laugh. "Being smart also helps in you getting strong. Take that Gravity Chamber everyone likes to use; that didn't come from strength alone. That came from me, brobro, and your mom putting our smarts together to make something to help us all. Hah, and Goku, well, he's always been stronger than the rest of us, but I've beaten him in two Tournaments by being smarter. And I plan on doing that again this Tournament." You scoot a bit closer as she listens. "You know your mom asked me and brobro to complete our education here? And we nearly jumped at the chance to do that."

"Really?" she asks inquisitively, looking up at you.

"Yup. Ah, guess you don't remember that much of it, you were still pretty young, but you were there. Trying to hit me with that little toy hammer of yours." She starts giggling at that. "Kid, you're five, of course you don't really like studying that much, but it's helpful in the long run. From the sound of things you've got a mind just like your mom's, and that'll be a big help to not only yourself, but your friends and family. I betcha Videl might even start asking you for help sometimes."

Now that seems to get her mind thinking about this. "...well, I guess, but..."

All right, time bring out your secret weapon. "Pantea, tell you what, if you promise to keep up your studies at least up to the Tournament, I'll teach you something useful. Deal?" You grin and hold your hand out.

She puts her... pinky up? "Pinky swear."

>A. Pinky swear!
>B. Now, something specific you want to learn?
>C. You've got a good idea on what you wanna teach her
>D. Something else?

>>43741196
>A. Pinky swear + Geist Magnum

>>43741196
>A. Pinky swear!
>B. Now, something specific you want to learn?

>>43741196
>A. Pinky swear!
>C. You've got a good idea on what you wanna teach her
Geist Magnum

>>43741196
>A. Pinky swear!
>C. You've got a good idea on what you wanna teach her
A technique from a book stolen from Hell. I first encountered it in my youth, and it has served me well these many years. It is known as CLOTHES BEAM!

>>43741227
....do you want to teach her the Geist Magnum, or do you wanna shoot a Geist Magnum out our pinky while performing the swear to make it as bitchin' as possible?

>>43741196
>>A. Pinky swear!
So did we learn Supernova for real?

>>43741274
Yes.

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>>43741279
Depends on what Kato thinks Supernova is, because it's not pic related.

>>43741279
The basics or something are in our subconscious. She hinted that we should go see Freeza use it in the Pendulum Room sometime. Kinda wanted to show Raditz how is father really died anyways.

>>43741316
It was not from the Supernova technique.

>>43741270
She must learn our signature attack.

>>43741313
>>43741327
Death Ball is what Freeza used on Namek isn't it? The black ball with red electricity running through it?

>>43741313
...you sure?
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Supernova

>>43741196
>A,C
Teach her clothes beam.

>>43741327
>>43741313
Death ball is the smaller black one that went into the core of Namek.

Supernova is the giant sun-like one used against Planet Vegeta and Future Trunks.

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>>43741333
That was "Destroy the Planet!"

All right, I'll put this to a vote:

Clothes Beam or Geist Magnum?

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>43741376
1: Clothes Beam
2: Geist Magnum

>>43741376
Flying.

>>43741400
She knows how to fly already.

>>43741412
Advanced Flying.

>>43741376
Clothes Beam

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>>43741376
Geist Magnum
afternoon kato

>>43741376
Clothes Beam, because that way we offer her something different from the techniques her father teaches her.

>>43741480
Oh yeah, didn't he steal Howling Rifle from us?

>>43741552
If by 'steal' you mean 'adapted what he learned from us and made it his own' then yes.

>>43741613
It's the same damn technique as Geist Magnum.

>>43741631
Seems more like a mix between the Kamehameha for charging and the Geist Magnum. So bigger output at least, I would say.

>>43741376
Clothes beam. She'll never have to go without the latest styles ever again.

>>43741333
>>43741336
>>43741353
"In the Raging Blast games and Ultimate Tenkaichi, the Death Ball Frieza and Cooler use in their base form has a much different appearance from other regular Death Balls, being much larger and glowing red or orange like a Supernova, while the actual Supernova is their ultimate attack."

>>43741687
I am just going to go with the wiki. Supernova is a 'Death Ball' technique. Makes life easier than trying to separate the two.

>>43741715
>>43741687 is also the wiki. Your wiki evidence is about as resourceful as trying to use a wiki as a source.

>>43741731
k

>>43741687
Huh. So if Supernova's out, maybe we could make a similar attack with light magic and call it "Morning Star" or something?

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This is all your fault Eail, why couldn't you leave it alone?

>>43741825
Its not really that big a deal.

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>>43741196
You laugh softly, and then place your pinky up. "Pinky swear."

She giggles excitedly, skipping back to her parents. While you both were quiet enough that nobody could hear the two of you talking, you can tell from Bulma's appreciative expression that she figured what you two were up to. "Someone's in a good mood." she comments.

Pantea just grins, skipping around her mom. You mention to Yamcha that you'd like to teach the girl the Clothes Beam, figured it would be something she'd find useful. In exchange, she will keep up her studying. Yamcha's actually fairly happy about that, though finds it curious that you'd be teaching her that technique instead of a different one. You tell him it's to both make a point, about smarts being just as useful if not more than strength, and that, well, come on, what girl wouldn't want to learn something like that?

For the next week, you try to...

>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>B. Try to think up a new technique, something that might be useful later
>C. Try to work on the Spirit Bits again, maybe up the ammo or number...
>D. Try to get Raditz to see the fate of Planet Plant with his own eyes
>E. Something else?

Pick two at most.

>>43741860
A
D

>>43741860
>B. Try to think up a new technique, something that might be useful later
>E. Study magic, had a weird dream the other night.

>>43741860
>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>D. Try to get Raditz to see the fate of Planet Plant with his own eyes

Really want extra Bits, but I suppose they can wait.

>>43741860
>>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
We should practice using the Solar Flare with it so we can have a Kaio-Raio-Taiyo-Ken.

>>43741860
>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>D. Try to get Raditz to see the fate of Planet Plant with his own eyes

>>43741860
>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>E. Study magic, had a weird dream the other night.
Drunken ass space lizards from parallel dimensions

>>43741860
>B. Try to think up a new technique, something that might be useful later

You know clothes beam is basically our version of solar flare.

What if we combine clothes beam WITH solar flare?

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>>43741860
>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>C. Try to work on the Spirit Bits again, maybe up the ammo or number...

>>43741860
>>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>>D. Try to get Raditz to see the fate of Planet Plant with his own eyes

>>43741860
>A,D

>>43741860

>A.
>D.

Actually, I wanted to do just A so we could focus on it, but D has too many votes, and I get the sneaking suspicion that sooner is better than later for D.

>>43741860
>>D. Try to get Raditz to see the fate of Planet Plant with his own eyes
Why does that have to take up OUR time? Can't we just drop him off at the lookout?

>>43741860
Can I vote against D? We're not his babysitter, we don't have to be there for everything our unemployed brother-in-law does.

>>43741991
Do y'all want to do this?

>>43742044
Nah I'll stick with him. We haven't seen the 'canon' ourselves yet either.

>>43742044
Yeah, we can offer it to him, and see if he bites, but our time would be better spent training to fight the PTO instead of going on field trips to the past with people.

>>43742044
I like characterization, so I want to go with.

>>43742044
No I think we should be there along with goku. He'll need someone who can help him absorb what he finds there.

>>43742074
You mean you're an emotional tourist who gets their kicks from seeing people go through hard times?

>>43742044
Let's go with Raditz.

>>43742090
No were a related party who can help himbget through them. Learn some empathy.

>>43742083
>He'll need someone who can help him absorb what he finds there.
Or we could let him decide how to absorb that for himself.

>>43742108
We are not related to the events that went down on Planet Vegeta. We were still in a tube.

>>43742133
Boy howdy you sure are salty over this. Why?

>>43742044
How 'bout Tien shows him?

>>43742151
His choice wasn't chosen and we wants to be super efficient with his time.

I mean I understand that but if you lose you lose.

>>43742044
Nah, let's go.

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>>43742166
Or I'm trying to convince people why my side's better.

>>43742179
You're doing a pretty shitty job at it.

>>43742151
Maybe because your arguments are dumb.

>>43742179
K, but it still looks like no one is changing. Just take the loss gracefully.

Roll me 1d20, best of five, DC 13.

Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>43742216
pls

Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>43742216

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>43742216
So can we just wait outside while he goes on his spirit trip?

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>>43742220
I rolled a 1 today on a d100 as well.

>>43742216
How long will this flashback take? Like, short summary or what?

>>43742065
This is just thinking of pros and cons just because. Heading to the past and seeing large events could reveal flaws in our foe's demeanor, or familiarize us with PTO structure, get a good feel for who is able to fight what enemy tier. Furthermore, it lets Raditz better brief us on chain of command, potentially leading to knowledge of the Ginyu Force and a chance to learn about what they can do to plan around them. Downsides are, of course, the time investment, the chance that our info may be outdated, and ooc, we know this stuff already.

>>43741860
Well, it's too late for learning a new technique to win right now, but I figured I'd throw out an idea, regardless. Let me know what you guys think:

We know a fight with Freeza is pretty much inevitable. We've faced the fake him before, and we know we're ultimately outclassed right now, but there was something we were able to see: In his second form, at least, he's huge.

We tend to fight people significantly larger than we are on a fairly regular basis, and if they get into melee combat with us, we aren't necessarily the best at handling it. We're good, don't get me wrong, but ki attacks and magic are our strong suits. When it comes to pure strength, we're probably never going to be top-tier, or even close to it. That's for other fighters. We do still get into plenty of close-combat scraps, though. So, here's my thought: Magic or ki-based Judo. It's been a long time since we've really tried to expand our martial arts prowess, because for the most part, we're learning crazy magic and ki stuff. That's totally fine, but there could come a time when that stuff won't be what we need to get by. We can't overpower most opponents in pure strength, and because we're tiny, but we can use their own strength and weight against them by developing more of a grappling style, alongside our regular martial arts. Amplifying it with ki or magic would just make it better.

What do you guys think?

>>43742276
We already read his mind about all that.

>>43742220
Nice.
Did we just develop the Kaio-Raio-Taiyo-Ken?

Rolled 4 (1d20)

>>43742216
rollan

Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>43742216
Rolling again, hope I don't fuck up!

>>43742298
How about Raio-Ten Red?

>>43742220
Welp.

Writing...

>>43741860
>>A. Manage the Kaio-ken + Raio-Ten once more, you almost had it!
>>C. Try to work on the Spirit Bits again, maybe up the ammo or number...

>>43742283
I'm fine with this, but ki would use a dot and magic raises the DC. We also have a few magic enhanced melee attacks if I remember correctly.

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>>43742342
In that case, maybe we should try working to perfect that, so it's no longer as taxing on us. That seems like the sort of thing that we could probably improve on over time.

>>43742377
How 'bout a gimmick form where we can only do techniques that are enhanced by a certain element and cost the same as they would be unenhanced? The form wears off when we use something that's not enhanced by lightning.

>>43742293
Wasn't sure how seep we went with the mind probing. Still, there are worse reasons in general than scouting, true?

>>43742283
An idea thats been bounced around is another function of Spirit Bits that amplify Melee attacks like the Gate does Ki attacks.

>>43742405
Gimmicky

>>43742425
I know, but we could work on enhancing more of our techniques to where it isn't so.

>>43742425
>An idea thats been bounced around is another function of Spirit Bits that amplify Melee attacks like the Gate does Ki attacks.

That's a neat idea, too. I was thinking of something more along the lines of a new addition to our overall fighting style, rather than just a new technique, though. Phasing something like grappling or Judo or whatnot will not only help us out in the short-term; it also gives us a chance to start coming up with new combinations based on the new martial techniques we have access to, just as an extension of adopting a new style.

>>43742425
>An idea thats been bounced around is another function of Spirit Bits that amplify Melee attacks like the Gate does Ki attacks.
Spirit gauntlets?

>>43742596
Maybe. Could be an overall buff for some odd duration. Could be that every Bit counts as almost like an explosive round per punch. 10 bits, 10 Ki explosive punches. Add in lightning for more fun.

Just spitballing.

>>43740430
>Swordplay (Great, Lightning Slash)
>Ka-Blam Slicer
>DUAL TECH: Frost Cleave (Chiaotzu)
>DUAL TECH: Frost Slicer (Chiaotzu)
Can we call them
>Ka-Zap Slicer
>Perfect
>Ka-Crack Slicer
and
>Ka-Crack Slicer
?

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>>43742615
That's not how the bits work. If anything, they would work like pic related.

>>43742650
Bits aren't that small. They are like half the size of Yamcha's Spirit Ball each.

>>43742675
It's how they would work if they were used like boxing gloves.

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>>43741860
You try to manage to use both the Kaio-ken and Raio-Ten at the same time once more, and this time do things a bit differently. You learn how to manage yourself while transformed, analyzing how your Ki has changed, how it affects your stamina, and how to best harness that same kind of "tranquil surge" of power that is the Kaio-ken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds

And you more than manage it. You manage it with flying colors, with it taking no more out of you than it does in your base state. In fact, with all the training you put in it, you seem to start understand how to better utilize the Raio-Ten state. You'll need a lot more Ki before you can do that properly, but it'll be very easy once you do.

(cont.)

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>>43742717
Later you and Goku decide it's time to take Raditz to see the destruction of Planet Plant, with his own eyes. Explaining your situation to Kami and Trip, the three of you head into the Pendulum Room. While Raditz watches the scene unfold, you and Goku actually take some time to scout around, Power Levels suppressed, to try and find out more about Freeza, and the even more mysterious Cooler. Raditz watches solemnly as he sees his father give a defiant speech to Freeza, then fires off a Ki blast. You can almost FEEL the laughter from Freeza as the tyrant prepares to destroy the entire planet. Gods... that much Ki, it's overkill.

Interestingly, you spot... a space pod flying away from the planet. Tiny Power Level inside, and... wait. Wait is that... Goku? You then try to find Cooler's ship, giving a telepathic scan of- ...they spotted Goku escaping. You feel a twinge of fear... but they don't pursue. Cooler orders them to stand down, if only to place the blame on Freeza for not noticing. His ship soon departs as the planet is destroyed, and then the simulation ends. Raditz has a resolved expression on his face; you can tell that there's a renewed sense of vengeance, but also something else. Something more... personal, but less outright aggressive. Interesting.

>A. Talk with Goku and Raditz about Cooler being there
>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
>C. Maybe try to sneak in a little bit more training with one of your techniques, or develop something new
>D. Something else?

>>43742735
>>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that

>>43742735
>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
>A. Talk with Goku and Raditz about Cooler being there

>>43742735
>>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
>>C. Maybe try to sneak in a little bit more training with one of your techniques, or develop something new
Why not both?

>>43742735
>>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
Don't worry Raditz, Bardock only got sent back in time then picked up by Towa, brainwashed and made to fuck up the timeline, but then he escapes and joins Trunks on the Time Patrol and the Surpreme Kai of Time has a crush on him.
It all works out in the end!

>>43742735
>A. Talk with Goku and Raditz about Cooler being there
>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
These two shouldn't take more than a conversation

>C. Maybe try to sneak in a little bit more training with one of your techniques, or develop something new
Lets bump up those Spirit Bits. And don't tell anyone we can go up to 8 or 10 yet.

>>43742735
>B
then
>C
especially the new move part

>>43742735
Supporting >>43742767

>>43742735
>C. Maybe try to sneak in a little bit more training with one of your techniques, or develop something new
>Try to imitate that attack Frieza did, he must have done something special to get that much power into that thing what with the relatively small amount of power he had. Had something like, 10.6 kilis in his body.

>>43742735
>A. Talk with Goku and Raditz about Cooler being there
>B. Check with Raditz, how did he take all that
>C. Maybe try to sneak in a little bit more training with one of your techniques, or develop something new
Spirit Bits

>>43742735
>A,B,C

Okay, one more 1d20, DC 13.

Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>43742909

Rolled 20 (1d20)

>>43742909
pls

Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>43742909

Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>43742909
Rolling

Rolled 19 (1d20)

>>43742909
What are we rolling for?

>>43742920
I'm going to stop rolling I think. I can literally feel statistical karma crawling up my back now.

>>43742920
pls anon, you are on a roll.

>>43742920
WELP.

Writing...

>>43742920
Dude second 20 of the night you must be feeling pretty stoked.

>>43742952
well we did spend most of last time crit failing

>>43742952
I would be feeling fear.

>>43742942
Oh cool

>>43742942
Come on now, you gotta ride that high until you crash into the ground. The dice gods won't forgive you if you do otherwise.

I wonder if we boost up high enough to match goku while he's a super saiyan.

Pls anon is actually a real life tuffle.

>>43742909
So Kato can we manage to go raio-ten and kaio-ken all the way to times 50 or just times 20 or something right now?

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>>43742995
O-okay I'll keep going.

>>43743025
Eventually we can do x5 Kaio-ken along with Raio-ten which will match him. I think we need a Base PL of 1 million to do it.

>>43743048
x20 I believe.

>>43743055
Goku's power level as a super saiyan is two million right now. It's a hundred x's boost and his current power level is somewhat over two thousand. Having a base power level of one million and then activating Raio-ten would be more than enough to max his current power level.

>>43743099
Super Saiyan 2 is times 100, normal Super Saiyan is times 50. Super Saiyan 3 and 4 are 400x and 500x respectively.

>>43743099
Well yeah I meant eventually we'll be able to match his transformation multiplier, we just can't handle it right now. He'd be getting stronger in base too, probably around the same as us.

>>43743120
What is Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan?

And what about Legendary Super Saiyan 2, Legendary Super Saiyan 3 and Legendary Super Saiyan 4?

I was talking about us matching his strength right now. Do we actually need to have a one million power level to use the base kaioken while in Riao-ten?

Speaking of the Raio-ten we should look into making stronger forms of that.

>>43743099
According to pastebin Gokus current base PL is 21,700. Multiplied by 50 to Super Saiyan puts him at 1.085 Million

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>>43743154
Let us compare. Here we have Vanilla...

>>43743154
>Legendary Super Saiyan 2, Legendary Super Saiyan 3 and Legendary Super Saiyan 4?
Maximum x2, Maximum x3, and Maximum x4 respectively.

>>43743163
No we can't match Super Saiyan yet.

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>>43743180
And this is God.

>>43743163
>Do we actually need to have a one million power level to use the base kaioken
No we literally just learned how to do that. We need 1 million base PL to go x5 Kaioken.

Right now we have x20 available
At 1 million PL we have the potential to go x50
And of course x30 and x40 will be milestones inbetween.

>>43743221
We could always master the Raio-ten and make an even stronger transformation based on what we know about the higher levels of the Kaio-ken and the higher levels of gokus super saiyan forms. This is taking into account the variations like stage two super saiyan or perfected super saiyan.

>>43743273
Raio-zen? That's my chipping in for the name if we're giving it a new name

>>43743308
I like it, it goes with the name pun theme we've got going for the move. Ken, Ten, Zen.

>>43743308
Nah, we didn't give Raio-ken + Kaio-ken any name besides "Hell Yeah!"

>>43743353
I'd rather save Zen for when we do those 8 Paths.

>>43743356
No this for the hypothetical next step in our Raio-ten transformations. Our SSJ2 if you will. Won't be for awhile if it does happen.

>>43743356
is it possible to do raio-ten + kaio-ken + raio-ken?

>>43743417
Raio-ten is Raio-ken amped up. Its the same technique.

>>43743424
but raio-ken made us specifically faster while kaio-ken does not. So raio-ten makes us both ten times stronger as well as keep the speed of raio-ken?

>>43743424
No it's not. It's something totally different. It has it's roots in the Raio-ten but it's not the same. It takes stuff from the Kaio-ken and the super saiyan transformation.

>>43743439
Ha, no.

>>43743461
>>43743462

So then raio-ken would be better for traveling great distances while raio-ten would not be as good? So then, theoretically we should be able to combine raio-ten and ken to both be stronger and faster?

>>43743482
Yup. Hahahahaha, no.

>>43743482
You might want to wait for word of Kato on if RaioTen doesn't retain Raio-Ken's speed. We've only used it once.

And don't listen to this guy.
>>43743489

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>>43743489
Sir, i don't understand you.

>>43743505
You asked two questions, so I gave you two answers, numbnut.

>>43743373
Don't think there's a samma zen in the noble eightfold path

>>43743555
We combine what we learn with the 8 paths with the Raio-ten-ken-zen

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>>43742735
"You okay, Raditz? I mean, I doubt that was easy to sit through..."

The Saiyan man actually smirks confidently. "It was what I needed to see. My father, our father, Kakarot, died a warrior. He went out fighting, for himself, and for all Saiyans. Even if Freeza outclassed him completely, I'm... proud of him." He turns to face you and Goku. "I look forward to seeing the Super Saiyan he feared all these years finally take him down."

"Aheh, I'll get there eventually!" Goku responds happily.

"By the way... did either of you notice Cooler there? And, ah..." You look at your husband awkwardly. "...well, you were there, Goku."

"...so that really was me?" he says in a bit of surprise. "Huh... guess I was lucky."

Raditz is more intrigued by the mention of Cooler. "I sensed something, but... Cooler being there is unusual. He's probably trying to catch Freeza screwing up on something, they don't exactly like each other. Though-" and then it hits him. "...wait, did Cooler actually...?"

You nod. "His men spotted Goku, but they didn't pursue. In an odd way, I guess he kind of spared/saved you, monkey boy."

"...interesting." Raditz comments. "I'm going to have to think on this for a while, Maple. There might be something we can use from him, if we have to."

With all that said and done, you try to get in one last attempt at something new, and put on a new spin with the Spirit Bits. First, you end up trying to up the number of Bits you can bring out, and surprisingly, you can actually push them up to 10. What's more, you also manage to get a sort of "small scale" Amplify, something that only takes two of three of them to use, but it's only enough to really enhance your melee attacks, and only one per "move." Still, something handy to have around.

A couple days before the Tournament begins, you opt to...

>A. Spend a bit of time just with Peppa and Gohan, maybe try to teach them a bit
>B. Spend a bit of time with your friends (who?)
>C. Something else?

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>>43743573
>>B. Spend a bit of time with your friends (who?)
Chiaotzu

>>43743573
>A. Spend a bit of time just with Peppa and Gohan, maybe try to teach them a bit

>>43743573
>What's more, you also manage to get a sort of "small scale" Amplify, something that only takes two of three of them to use, but it's only enough to really enhance your melee attacks, and only one per "move."

Nice that sounds like a good move to use in conjunction with Hallowed Rush.

>A. Spend a bit of time just with Peppa and Gohan, maybe try to teach them a bit

>>43743573
>A. Spend a bit of time just with Peppa and Gohan, maybe try to teach them a bit

>>43743573
>A. Spend a bit of time just with Peppa and Gohan, maybe try to teach them a bit

>>43743573
>A
Lets do the mom thing.

>>43742990
Remember, we rolled 4 1's in a row last time.

Also I'd like to apologize on how long these have been taking, have had a bitch of a headache since I woke up. Still able to continue, just been kinda having to take is slow.

>>43743697
No problem.

Just don't let the street signs get you.

>>43743697
Where on your head is the headache. Try to isolate the section of your head that hurts. Each pain corresponds to a different need. You can find out whether its a problem of lack of sleep, food, water, stress

>>43743697
It's alright Kato, you got this.

>>43743697
It's okay Kato.

>>43743482
Well, we end up faster and stronger in Raio Ten form. Raio Ken was a gateway to this, so I don't think they stack. Kinda like how going kaio ken x5 wouldn't stack with base kaio ken.

2d20, DC 10 for both.

Rolled 16, 5 = 21 (2d20)

>>43743829

Rolled 2, 18 = 20 (2d20)

>>43743829

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Rolled 1, 19 = 20 (2d20)

>>43743829
Loli Kaio, Guide my Dice!

Rolled 15, 11 = 26 (2d20)

>>43743829

Rolled 15, 20 = 35 (2d20)

>>43743829

Rolled 5, 13 = 18 (2d20)

>>43743829

Rolled 12, 10 = 22 (2d20)

>>43743846
I think she was pissed at you for calling her a Loli

>>43743846
You probably should have left her out of this.

>>43743846
>>43743855
This reminds me of Cain and Abel...

>>43743834
>>43743839
>>43743846
>>43743855
>>43743865
...well then.

Writing...

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>>43743573
>Amplify, something that only takes two of three of them to use, but it's only enough to really enhance your melee attacks, and only one per "move." Still, something handy to have around.


>SHINING FINGEEEEER!

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>>43743877
>>43743881
The Lolikai giveth, and the Lolikai taketh.

>>43743896
Spirit Stinger?

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>>43743911

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>>43743915
SOUL POWER!

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>>43743923
But she's so important.

>>43743989
The bird is more important than she is and it can only say its own name.

>>43743989
>Lolikai will never be your gf
>you will never sneak her into a movie in your backpack and still have room to smuggle in candy and sodas.

>>43744073
>best of all the backpack plan was her idea!

>>43744073
So it's all agreed that the only reason Towa is so frustrated/intrigued with us is because she has a thing for short redheads, right?

I mean obviously all the stuff she pulls in Xenoverse and Online is to get SKoT to notice her.

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>>43744126
Not just her.

>>43744148
But he's not short.

>>43744148
>2tall2actuallyRed

>>43744126
Would be funny seeing as SKoT is canonically heterosexual.

>>43744206
Just like we are.

>>43744206
She canonically looks like a child. And no amount of "Officer, you don't understand, she's actually millenia-old God" is going to get you out of spending a good 15 years next to Good Ol' Jared.

>>43744238
The fuck are you going on about, retard?

>>43744246
Jared the Subway spokesmen is in fifteen years for child molestation.

You living under a rock anon? You have the internet. Do rocks get wifi?

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>>43744246
You're the retard.

>>43744261
No, I was more asking about what misfired neuron caused you to come into the thread waving your dick around and pushing the "UR A PEDO!" bandwagon when we were having a perfectly fine discussion.

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>>43744311

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>>43743573
You decide to spend most of your time with your kids, still managing other things with it and keeping up your training with Goku, but really giving the two some decent attention. Also maybe try to teach them some, they might be fairly smart on their own. For the most part, Gohan is fairly well-behaved, studious, and quite a quick learner, eager to help his sister...

...when she wants to be helped. Peppa still behaves herself fairly well, but she's... also more likely to get into trouble, and while she does have a good head on her shoulders and is fairly inquisitive on her own, she... well, can put those gifts to less than optimal use. Trying to make a dress out of mud, chasing large wild animals, somehow crawling to the top of the fridge to sneak cookies... oh gods, and she can eat almost as much as her dad can. Not that Gohan lacks a noticeable appetite himself, but Peppa... well, you're actually fairly glad you've got as much money as you do if she keeps this up.

Still, the two of them do manage to learn quite a bit. They've actually picked up talking pretty well, for their age, Gohan managing it faster than his sister. The evening before the Tournament signups, as you're about to put the two to bed... you get a visitor.

"Enjoying your peace and quiet, little Tuffle girl?~"

Peppa takes one look at the demon woman and lowly mumbles "Skunk."

>A. Yes, actually, even if some of your machinations have given us reason to worry
>B. Nice to see you too. Want some tea, Towa? Biscuits?
>C. Peppa no, that's not nice
>D. Something else?

>>43744365
>A. Yes, actually, even if some of your machinations have given us reason to worry
>B. Nice to see you too. Want some tea, Towa? Biscuits?

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>>43744365
>D. Offer her a beer!

Rolled 9, 13 = 22 (2d20)

>>43744365
>>B. Nice to see you too. Want some tea, Towa? Biscuits?
>>C. Peppa no, that's not nice
>> Find out who taught peppa that word so you can kick their ass.

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>>43744311
>perfectly fine discussion.

>>43744365
>C. Peppa no, that's not nice
>A. Yes, actually, even if some of your machinations have given us reason to worry
>B Want some tea, Towa? Biscuits?

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>>43744206
Lolikai is Bardocksexual.

>>43744365
>>D. Something else?
Seconding the Beer

>>43744365
>>D. Something else?
"Towa. I'm married now. You have to move on."

>>43744365
>B. Nice to see you too. Want some tea, Towa? Biscuits?
>C. Peppa no, that's not nice

>>43744402
Seconding

>>43744417
For a Kai of Time, she totally missed out on Gine.

>>43744402
>Fuck off back to own universe already

>>43744365
>B. Crumpets and tea?

>>43744365
>B,C

Rolled 18, 14 = 32 (2d20)

So does no one want to find out who taught peppa the word skank and kick their ass?

>>43744450
Well technically, the Bardock in Xeno/Heroes/Online is post destruction of Vegeta, so that'd make Bardock a widower.
So he's totally single.

>>43744516
Can you really be single in a universe where you can physically visit your wife in heaven. Or HFIL that genociding bitch.

>>43744511
She probably found a skunk.

>>43744534
>Or HFIL that genociding bitch.
I don't think Gine did much genociding, she was extremely kind and sweet for a Saiyan and worked in Meat Processing.

Also, totally.

>>43744365
No beer, we don't have any and don't have the alcohol beam yet.

>>43744542
That was either a reference to towa's hair or to the whole thing on ask that an anon asked about peppa trying to call Towa a skank.

>>43744574
Peppa probably found a skunk. We can look inside her head to see what she thinks a skunk is if you'd like.

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>>43744452
The outside world is our enemy, Maple! We're the only fehh-friends we got. It's just Arctus and Maple. Arrctus and Maple and their adventures, Maple. Arctus and Maple, forever and forever, a hundred years Arctus and Maple, s...things. Me and Arctus and Maple runnin' around and Arctus and Maple time. Aaall day long forever. All, a hundred days Arctus and Maple forever a hundred times. Over and over Arctus and Maple adventure dot com W W W dot Arctus and Maple dot com W W W Arctus and Maple adventures all hundred years. Every minute Arctus and Maple dot com W W W hundred times Arctus and Maple dot com.

>>43744606
>Ripped Dick 200%

>>43744593
Pretty sure it's a reference to this:http://ask.fm/QMKato/answer/133561922218 since she said it right after looking at Towa.

>>43744731
'

WOW! HERE KATO IS AGAIN, USING THINGS IN HER ASK TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION. Why would we teach our daughter the word skank when we're, according to the eightfold path, a very humble person who lives in a very moral fashion. This is bullshit we didn't vote on and Kato is stripping us of our rights again.

>>43744780
wut wut!

>>43744780
>WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION

Hey you self-entitled fuck, I'm fine with it.

Think before you talk shit.

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>>43744365
"Peppa no, that's not nice." you tell your daughter, tapping her on the forehead. "Who told you that word?"

"Book." she responds, pointing to a book of animals next to her bed. She then points to the Demon woman's white hair. Oh. Ohhh. "Talkan skunk."

"No, sweetie. Not a skunk."

Towa gives you an annoyed cough to draw your attention back to her. "Right then. Well?"

"Yes, actually, even if some of your machinations have given us reason to worry." You put your daughter down gently. "Nice to see you too, Towa. Want some tea? Crumpets? Biscuits? I'd offer a beer if that's your thing but we don't exactly have any..."

"Charming a host as ever, little Tuffle girl." she responds with a slight twitch in her eye. "No. I'm here for something more important."

"And that is?"

Her face gains a devilish grin. "Magil will not be facing you again in the upcoming Tournament. I have some new things for you, and he's... occupied with other tasks at the moment."

>A. More of your "Artificial Demons," or one of Gero's creations?
>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?
>C. You sure you don't want anything?
>D. Something else?

>>43744815
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

>>43744821
>A. More of your "Artificial Demons," or one of Gero's creations?
>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?

>>43744821
>A. More of your "Artificial Demons," or one of Gero's creations?
>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?

>>43744821
>>A. More of your "Artificial Demons," or one of Gero's creations?
>>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?
>>C. You sure you don't want anything?

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>>43744821
>>D. Something else?
Go home Demon girl!

>>43744821
>>C. You sure you don't want anything?

>>43744780
Hey look it was a cute little reference. Also Kato wasn't using her ask to decide things you autistic retard.

>>43744821
>D. Something else?

Clothes beam something to cover her underboob. Like a poncho.

We got children here!

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>>43744821
>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?
>C. You sure you don't want anything?

It seems the trolls are out in force tonight. Don't you fuckers have anything better to do with your time the shit up a thread?

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>>43744898
Nah

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>>43744821
>D. Serve her some of Peppa's Dorodangos.

>>43744821
>A. More of your "Artificial Demons," or one of Gero's creations?
>B. Just what tasks might those be? And how about you tell me what that incident with the Galactic Patrol was all about?
"I'm surprised you kept him around after his failures. Feeling magnanimous eh?"

>>43744836
>>43744875

>>43744821
>A, B, C, and "It would be no problem. I already feed a Saiyan, and two half Saiyans. They eat as much as a small army."

Y'know we really deserve a Towa social link at this point. I think we've hung out with here more often than our adopted father or our aunt.

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>>43744821
>We and Peppa offer her a dragonball-designed dorodango.

>>43745026
I think social links are for people who we can actually befriend.

I think we're like -500 Social Links for Towa.

>>43745026

You mean she hangs out with us. Like a cat or something.

>>43745060
Or at least people who don't routinely try to kill us. Although...okay, if she has a mini mook squad of artificial demons, is it wrong to hope they have more personality than Magil?

>>43745098
My cat keeps biting and scratching me for fun.

>>43745107
Magil has the personality of Sephiroth, I think.

>>43745107
Magil has personality. We just don't know it because we aren't his friend. He probably collects bottle caps and laughs at knock knock jokes. But it doesn't matter, because we're gonna kill him

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>>43745107
I wonder if she's going to bring Bardock.

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>>43745107
>>43745107
I know just the three!

>>43745126
>Magil has the personality of Sephiroth, I think.
So not all that much.

>>43745127
>But it doesn't matter, because we're gonna kill him
Indeed

>>43745127
>>43745126
Well yeah, his personality is more nihilistic bastard tool. Just hoping his brothers are a varied bunch, I guess.

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>>43745148
He ded

>>43745126
Sephy was a crazy mother fucker in retrospect...

>>43745189
Towa can revive people and make them time breakers.

She can also grow and shrink them!

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>>43745193
Hah!

>>43745189
It only look like he ded. He got sent on a magical journey through time and space!

>>43745227
Straight to Hell.

>>43745239
You mean the home for infinite losers.

>>43745288
Oh yeah, the kids are with us.

>>43745152
Yes please

>>43745304
Ozzie challenges us with his magic, Slash with his swords and Flea... [spoiler ]with his gender identity. [/spoiler]

>>43745340
>Wanna rub my magic lamp?

....

So uh.

How's everyone's day goin?

>>43745540
The day doesn't start until I get into arguments with people on the internet.

>>43745540
Solid. Got to see Whiskey crash and burn RCQ for what I think is the final time since he deleted his twitter. So that was pretty funny.

>>43745566
Least you got a goal in mind.

>>43745584
Nice.

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>>43744821
"More of your 'Artificial Demons,' or one of Gero's creations?" you ask with a bit of a glare.

"You can probably guess." she says with a bit of an arrogant laugh. "These should be designed well enough to give you and your friends a bit of a... challenge."

"Challenge. Right. And just what are you doing with Magil? What was the deal with pestering the Galactic Patrol?" You have a feeling you know the answer.

"Gero had his little plan with the Red Ribbon Army. I merely... helped. Magil is busy with further help." She floats in closer, sort of leaning towards you. "You didn't disappoint. Like usual."

Unflinching, you ask her, "Sure you don't want something? I take care of Saiyans, I've got food to spare, and you wouldn't believe how delicious my doro-"

Her eye twitches again. "No. I do not." She floats away, glaring at you. "By the way... you feel very confident about those Saiyans' arrival, do you not?" Well... that's a curious question. And a worrying one. "Should you?"

>A. Are you planning something there, Towa?
>B. We'll be prepared, rest assured
>C. Something else?

Really sorry this is taking so long, folks.

>>43745670
You should probably continue tomorrow or Sunday if you're having problems.

>>43745670
>>B. We'll be prepared, rest assured

>>43745670
>A. Are you planning something there, Towa?
"Are you going to shove Demonic Ki in them like you did Garlic Jr.? From what we heard from Raditz we should be able to handle them."

>>43745670
>A "You gonna do something to make it more of a challenge aren't you? I'd expect nothing less. You're a good friend Towa. (this last sentence is just to mess with her head though.)
>B

>>43745670
>>A. Are you planning something there, Towa?

Continue or finish up tomorrow if your headache is that bad kato.

>>43745670
>>A. Are you planning something there, Towa?
>>B. We'll be prepared, rest assured
>>C. "Any luck on finding Beelz's old man?"

>>43745670
>>C. Something else?
Towa you are like a stray cat in heat.

Now leave before I have to grab a broom and swat you away.

>>43745884
We shouldn't take Gohan's weapon away from him. He might cry.

>>43745670
Supportan >>43745739

>>43745670
>>43745739
Supporting for lulz

>>43745670
>>>A. Are you planning something there, Towa?

We can wait for another day, if your headache is that bad. Your health takes priority over quests, fun as they may be.

>>43745670
Get a 2 liter of Ginger Ale and drink it if you got a headache.

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>>43745670
"What, going to shove some Ki into them like you did Garlic Jr.? Aw, you want to make them a challenge for us? I'd expect nothing less, you're such a good-"

"Enough." she almost growls out at you. "...something like that. If you're really up to such a challenge."

"Hah, we'll be more than ready for them, don't you worry, Towa." you tell her with a wide, confident smile. "Now, how about you? Have you been trying to find your brother, or something?"

"Oh, I have great plans for him, don't worry. We will meet again." she responds in an ominous tone, standing and stroking a finger along her spear. "You all will have to get lots stronger before that happens."

Gods, she's like a stray cat sometimes, isn't she? "We will, we will, eesh."

Goku walks in, a piece of bread in his mouth. "Ouh, Twehuh, hfey! Whutr yuh heer fhur?"

"Monkey boy come on, not with your mouth full." you grumble at him.

You can almost feel her rage build by the rather nonchalant reaction. "...I will see you both again. I promise you that."

And then she's gone. Goku finishes eating. "Ahh, so, what was all that about?"

You cross your arms, Peppa poking her head up. "Towa being Towa. But looks like we've got some things waiting for us at the Tournament, Goku!"

>YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE SIXTH SOCIAL LINK WITH BULMA

>YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE SIXTH SOCIAL LINK WITH YAMCHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8c_-Ctr9AU

>DRAGON BALL TUFFLE QUEST Z #9 END
>Twitter account is @KatoQm, will have status updates there
>Got some questions for the QM? Characters? Suggestions? Throw them at ask.fm/QMKato and I'll try to answer them as best I can

Calling it here, folks. I'll be around for a while but Primus, I need to lay down for a bit. Sorry about all this, but at least we got some last prep over with. Did y'all have fun, at least?

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>>43746466
Running sunday like usual or saturday?

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>>43746466
Thanks for the run Kato. Hope you feel better.

Real quick question: Does Raio-ten include Raio-ken's speed boost?

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>Did y'all have fun, at least?
Yup, also kinda glad I don't have to stay up all night, seeing as how I did that last night.

>>43746466

Thanks for running, Kato. Hope you feel better soon!

Combining Wolf Fang Fist with amplify melee will be very interesting combo.

Especially with Maple's lightning enhancements.

If we can hit with light energy it'll be nice effect against demons.

>>43746466
Always boss, from the airport edition.

>>43746501
Trying for Sunday. Also turns out I have a slight fever too, so that's fun.

>>43746537
It's the same speed boost as the Raio-ten.

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>>43746603
Thanks for playing, I'll try to get some rest.

>>43746466
How much stronger does the Kaio-Ken make our Raio-Ten? also, what do you think of >>43742628 ?

>>43746672
Twice as strong
Its x20.

Kaio-ken x2 + Raio-ten's x10

>>43746697
Is there a Kaio-ken times 1?

>>43746709
No. I just used x2 to make it easier to understand.