Hmm, check out the death cultists, they have a nice mix of religious zeal and focus on pointy sticks.

fluff proposal 1) : Order is designated keeper of cathedrals/relics/library/whatever... Their duties are mostly ceremonial (plus a bit of security patrols). No need for guns, but since they have to stay fit (idleness begets heresy after all) they do a lot of martial art training.
Eventually bodyguard duty with emphasis on crowd control, no need for guns either, just put your power armor between the cardinal and any threat, and gut anything that comes to close of his highness.

fluff proposal 2) : Feral world/Planet with a wuxia culture. Lack of ressouces and cultural osmosis made the order specialize in cqc.

fluff proposal 3) : Revered saint killed a demon or equivalent with a sword (or a hammer, or her bare hands). The order considers that it's only proper to try to reproduce that act and train accordingly, even if the time allocated to training in firearms must suffer from it. Ripping and tearing your enemies is the purest act of devotion.

fluff proposal 4) : Order is stationned in a labyrinthic hive where clear lines of sights are scarce / a place where the very air is easily inflammable (or any other comparable unpleasanteness) / a place where monsters lurks and will attack you if they hear a gunshot. Necessity is law.
Alternatively, a space based order would shun on firearms due to the risk of puncturing walls (and the recoil in 0g)

>>43805161
I was actually thinking of something more classical, well, number 3 sounds good, but I was considering that their library contains some old earth stories, perhaps of medieval heroes and such (St George, King Arthur etc), and they happen to have quite a few power weapons or similarly useful melee type implements, not just chain-swords, and fight using the standard shield/hand-weapon combo, perhaps operating alongside a group of unarmoured sisters providing fire support from behind the lines.

Alternatively it could be more arbites styled weapons for crowd control, mauls, riot shields and such, used to pacify unruly populace on shrine worlds or to escort high ranking nobles through dangerous riots or disasters without having to use precious ammo that can be used in better situations....

>>43805161
>easily inflammable
*flammable, dammit.
any practical reason that prevents weapons from being used will do. Fog, underwater, corrosive spores, angry sentient flora ala Avatar, magnetic field pertubating the Bolters machine spirit (resulting in omnipresent jams), liquid prometheum rain, etc...

Also, while I'm at it.
fluff proposal 5) : Imposed penance for the whole order. The order botched a very importatn assigment once, but the Ecclesiarchy, in its infiny benevolence, gave you a chance to redeem yourselves. 10000 years without ranged weapons should teach you the errors in your ways.

>>43805023
>Or even better, how this would work out in fluff?

They all die when they run into something harder than a Guardsman.

I actually quit like the idea of a Sister going all Kung Fu on a demon.

Also, I know FFG fluff is garbage tier but in the Inquisitor's Handbook there's a blerb about a special kind of metal from a feudal world that acts like a poor man's power weapon because it stores and releases kinetic energy

So imagine a bunch of powered armored sisters running around with weapons and fists made of this stuff and swinging on whoever their fighting?

>>43805470
New idea, a Sororitas order deprived of armour and ranged weapons, either due to fucking up royally, or munitorium fuckery/lack of supply, and going into combat with knuckle dusters and boots covered with the stuff and just going all FOTNS on armoured troops by collecting kinetic energy and punching them through the chest.....

>>43805470
What about if they don't have armour or ranged weapons (Apart from flack armour and such basic shit) and end up having to use weapons or covering their fists and feet in this metal and going FOTNS on armoured troops. I know some special forces troops, in north Korea I think it was, punch wood until their hands are close to breaking to make them even harder (Due to the new bone...?), and basically training ala Rocky 4 to kill people with their bare hands.

Character creation necron: Sanctuary 101 massacre by necron flayed ones. They drape the flesh of their victims over there heads...so

Some flayed one running around with a furry slitted hat.

I call him Mr. Bobbins.

>>43805523
>>43805540

Why not? A small group of soroitas set to guard a new temple. Shit gets real and their primary weapons and armor is either held up or doesn't get to them so they have to rely on whatever weapons and their martial skill to defend the new temple.

Queue the legend of the future Canoness who beats a demon possessed freak to death with her bare hands and the power of her faith.

>>43805562
Sanctuary 101, being a convent full of Sisters of Battle of course

>>43805575
I should actually do a short bit of writing about this, I realise I've had this idea in the back of my head for a while, but it was more just genuine "Oh, what if...", rather than any substantial reason, but martial arts nuns beating the shit out of people with kinetic weapons and maybe a pew or two would make for some delicious things to write about o-o

>>43805221
I suppose sisters can replace arbites in church worlds, since it allows the ecclesiarchy to retain more control than with a concurrent organization acting as police force.

>fight using the standard shield/hand-weapon combo
>escort high ranking nobles
Sounds like inquisitorial crusaders (that are quite similar to sisters in most regards, except they accept both genders). Look at the class in the Ascension book. It's not made for starting characters, but you should be able to find some nice ideas.

>without having to use precious ammo
I can get behind the idea, but what about holy prometheum ? It's supposedly plentiful, and flamethrowers are great at crowd-control.

On a sidenote, I wonder how sisters would react to finding texts about Joan of Arc, since she's perfection incarnate in adeptas soriritas' terms.

>>43805633
>Inquisitorial Crusaders
I guess I'm proposing this more because Sororitas deserve a little more depth for the various forms their orders can take, a bit like all the varieties of Space Marine Chapters /tg/ has come up with over the years, and since the Ecclesiarchy would end up with all the candidates the marines reject, the base for different Sororitas Orders is pretty large.

>Writefaggotry incoming

Sister Charlotte emerged from the grand wooden doors of the Order of The Armoured Heart’s fortified chapel, looking out from the top of the hill on which it was situated at the blazing orgy of violence their city had suddenly become, for two weeks the Sisters had taken shelter along with the faithful and needy inside the sanctified training ground, halting all exercises and readying their staffs, polearms, fists and swords for what they assumed was a typical riot of malcontents. However, what soon came to light was a deep rot in the core of the place, something that even the arbites could not handle, and as she observed the slaughter and violence in the streets the Mother Superior’s words echoed in her ears, “Suffer not those who would inflict pain on the innocent, they deserve only a thousand fold in return”, and she readied her long staff, almost as tall as she was the polished metal gave only a dull glint to the orange lights below them, her only armour on her forearms, hands and shins of the same metal, a holy weapon befitting their order. The other sisters soon joined her in looking out across the city, specks of orange and yellow blossoming in the distance from the area of the promethium refineries, Charlotte could only curse that they hadn't noticed the rot setting in before, Sister Anna approached, mace steady even as the purity seals stitched to her robe waved in the warm wind, “We require your order Ma’am…”, she said softly, Charlotte nodded a bit, wearily sighing before raising her staff in both hands, bellowing the war cry of good, Emperor fearing people the Imperium over, “Suffer not the traitors to live! For they are not worthy of our mercy!”, the others shouted in approval as one, raising maces and shields to the sky. Charlotte breathed out, visible in the cold air, they would bring this city back from the brink if it killed them...

>>43806672
So, we've got a name and the basic sort of thing here, I'll have to clarify this in later pieces but only the armour is made of the kinetic metal, that and the Canoness' pole-arm, so when those weapons either break or don't work they'd technically be doing better with their bare hands

>>43805023
Double-pfist OM Inquisitor(s) in Crusader squad(s) with a priest(ess).

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>>43806672
> Order of The Armoured Heart
> Specialized mainly in CQC
> Are exceptional in CQC even by Sororitas standards
> Don't use ranged weapons most of the time sans flamers
> Power Armor modified for brutal CQC

I really like it.

>>43807036
I'll try to get a little more writing done to show what they're like in combat before the day is over

>>43805023
>Anybody got any ideas rules wise?

Inquisition book. Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor and a melee-oriented retinue.

>Or even better, how this would work out in fluff?

Planetary gun control.

The order makes use of melee weapons through a loophole like the one that allowed the Ecclesiarchy to have women at arms.

>>43807087
> Sister Octavia got into CQC with a buffed up Chaos mutant
> Manages to disarm him of his giant machete by cutting the arm off with her glaive
> Mutant goes Khorne and grows tentacles
> "I'm not this kind of girl" says Octavia as she throws away her glaive and activates her armor's spiked knuckles
> Punches mutant in the face with lightning speed and proceeds to rip out one of his tentacles
> Uses tentacle as improvised whip and hits the mutant in the face again
> Now the mutant's pissed off even more so
> Shoots his two remaining tentacles out
> Sister Octavia dodges then and cuts off one with the bladed side of her spikes and stomps on the other and rips it out
> Proceeds to jump on the mutant and commences to punch him into the ground
> Hours later she realizes she was punching a gore filled hole in the ground

I'm drawing a blank here but wasn't it Japanese peasants who trained with farm tools to defend themselves against corrupt lords? Maybe this order has a similar origin.

>>43807272
I'd probably have it more like....

>Sister Octavia meets a Khorne Cultist, doesn't need to wear her armour for that so just shows up in monk's robes.
>Cultist fags out talking about how he's so skilled he killed a hundred guardsmen with one hand.
>Octavia pulls out polearm and he says, "Ha! That pathetic weapon won't even scratch me!", pulls out super-deluxe-spikey-knife which shoots out flames and tries to stab her.
>Octavia blocks and yawns, whacks him on the head and begins spinning it as he stumbles away.
>Cultist rants and gets furious, shouting how he's a chosen one and all the horrible things he's going to do to her.
>Spinspinspinspin
>Cultist continues ranting and pulls out a big fuck-off sword.
>Octavia stops spinning and throws the staff at him
>Staff ends up embedded in his chest, Octavia walks up and rips it out before smacking his head off with it.
>Walks off to kill more cultists.
>Commisar writes a report about how they found the leader of the cult with a staff shoved from his throat out his rectum, request for a new one because Octavia doesn't want to, "Clean the fear-shit off it".

>>43807404
What's the story?

>>43807435
That's really good. Better than mine.

>>43807489
Four minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhoypf2ZRo

>>43807585
Nice.

>>43807585
It could be incorporated as the inspiration behind their use of melee weapons over bolters and lasguns, say their original members were drawn from a feudal world where they took out a Khorne cult and maybe even a daemon with only melee weapons and farming implements.

>>43807671
I like this idea.

Nothing's better than gals with farming tools brutalizing Chaos cultists.

>Sister Octavia beating down a corrupt arbites

http://pastebin.com/gxGrHPuK

>>43807873
Sister Octavia is the resident badass among badasses.

>>43807994
Seems so, anyone want more? I've got a few ideas floating around but I don't want this to float off into the Ether....

>>43808269
Yep. This time give her a more challenging opponent.

A Dark Eldar Sybarite

Also we need ideas for the significant members of the order.

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>>43808301
mfw I read that as sybian

>>43808408
Pffffff.

On the other hand DEldar may have something like this just in case they don't have anything to rape near them.

>The air choked with heat and the smell of burning promethium. Sister Alyssia rose to her knees and fought to catch the oxygen her body was desperately craving for having been buried under the rubble of what used to be the governor's mansion.

>As she steadied herself that's when they came, the blood soaked shadows that seemed to walk out of the walls of fire forming an inescapable arena.

>As they came closer their forms became clear, the lean and muscular bodies adorned with heretical symbols and various hooks and rings from which they attached their poorly made suits of armor. Even having spent the last of their bullets they began to pull knives and spears ever ready to continue fighting.

>Alyssia took to her feet having found her second wind and took a quick assessment of her weapons: Her boltgun was gone, lost possibly in the ruins, her pistol had screamed it's last shell into the skull of a priest of a these heretic's dark gods and all she had left was the spear from a suit of armor that lined the non-existent hall. She would not be deterred and took a quick twirl of the spear to assess it's balance and to mark her distance and still they approached...

>>43808527
Go on...

>>43808527

>The only noise that could be heard was the sound of heretic's wheezing breath and the cackling of flames. It wasn't until the broken piece of wall finally fell before they all rushed at once, shouting a gutteral and frightening battle cry as they advanced.

>Alyssia did not wait for them and pushed off with her right spinning the spear's wide blade above her head before cutting down on the nearest cultist in front of her. The blade was caught in his throat causing him to thrash but she pushed forward taking the heretic with her to force her way out of the closing circle.

>As the cultist turned she had kicked the cultist off her blade and adanvced once again. She thanked the Emperor that the spear was not a show piece granted it was heavy, it's metal shaft allowing her to deflect the wild blows of make shift machetes and stolen swords and knives. She pushed them away and slamed the shaft into the face of one near her and quickly spun it around to smash blunt end into eye of another. Cutting, smashing, blocking, deflecting, parrying the exchange was fierce but her training would preserve her over the maddened swings of rank amateurs.

>As Alyssia turned and thrusted the spear's blade into the sternum of the remaining few she was caught unawares as a blurry glint came down and easily severed her spear. The blow was no doubt meant for her head and would have been had she not backed away in the few precious seconds it took causing her to fall back having momentairly lost her footing.

>She took hold of the broken heft of the spear and quick slid back to put some distance between her and the new assailant and took in the sight of the thing's hulking form: Thick slabs of muscles and large scared hands easily pulled the axe out of the earth and set it to rest on it's broad shoulders. it's face was covered by a helmet who's helmet was made into the same symbol the cultust wore on their bodies...

>>43808301
I'm thinking something like, this

>Mother Superior of the order, Brunhilde, the spear wielding warrior known for her calm and warm disposition, even in the worst of situations. Having led the order for over 200 years one would not guess from her relatively youthful features her age, and her skill as the most experiences spear user among the order.

I'll think of some history, significant battles and such.

>>43809057
Nice.

Give them a battle where they not only survived a Dark Eldar Wych Cult assault, but also managed to pin them down into brutal combat.

>>43809168
>"Reports that Sister Octavia inserted her pole-arm into the rectum of the Wych leader and held her off the ground for an hour are unsubstantiated and any talk of it should be met by a harsh whipping" - Commisar Fairchild after his Regiment was sent in to relieve the Order of the Armoured Heart after combat with a Wych cult .

>>43809256
> relieve

How relieve? As in they replace them while they go resting, or...

>>43809310
....Relieve in the military sense, as in "Let them rest while we hold the line", if I wanted it to be a fapfic, I'd probably write it

>>43809424
Oh. OK. Good thing that it wasn't the latter.

>>43808301
>Octavia V Sybarite

http://pastebin.com/mRDdd6J7

>>43809573
Heh. She has boobs of steel.

>>43809668
I'm just wondering how high we can let them go to be able to defeat, I mean, daemons would make sense, but I'm wondering how they'll work against tanks....

>>43809723
That and in what situations they'd break out the armour, could be some of them, like Octavia use regular flack and non powered armour whilst their Canoness and special squads go into combat fully armoured and decked out with all the power weapons and the like for combat with Chaos Space Marines and Necrons.

>>43808823
Also, this is quite good, would love to see more :)

>>43809723
Unless they have among their weapons some powerful anti-armor melee, then they are screwed against a mechanized opponent.

Like seriously game over man...unless apart of flamers, they do have melta.

And don't get me started with daemon engines.

>>43809777
Could be they have Thunderhammers, maybe something like a relic that's a super sharp sword, with the wielder able to just go Raiden on Tanks and cut them into pieces, though that's more fluffy than crunchy, so I'd stick with them having melta pistols as sidearms in crunch.

>>43809814
The other person that could go Raiden on a tank is a certain Commissar of the Tanith 1st and Only...

>>43809845
I'd forgotten about that o-o Although that was an heirloom weapon, but we can assume if Gaunt can get one it's possible for a Sororitas order to have a pair or two lying about.

>>43809933
Make them relic weapons that started out as heirlooms of a noble family.

>>43809994
Sounds good, reckon I should just get this writ up and pasted and what have you?

>>43808823

Sorry, hit word count and had to eat

>The Heretic walked with the baring of a seasoned warrior and a competant, eager killer. While Alyssia had few difficulties with the lesser cultist they would be a hinderance should she have to fight all of them at once but she was resigned to do so.

>Unlike the others, this one did not hesitate to attack. With both hands on the axe the blade became a blur and swung with speed and precision that belied the monster's appearance. Lacking the space to retreat, Alyssia pushed forward and used the broken spear to catch the shaft of the axe in a desperate attempt to block it so the blade only bit into her arm through her armor instead of cleaving through her abdomen. Biting back the pain she brought up her foot for a savage front kick to the man's knee and brought the shaft about to smash it against his head only to have it caught in his iron grip.

>The monster seemed to be purposefully ponderous in it's movement, enjoying every second, every blow and bruise it gave and received in turn. The beast threw the broke spear away forcing Alyssia to lose her grip least she went with it. It quickly regained it's grip on the axe and being to close for a clean cut jabbed the butt of the axe into her shoulder and followed with a strong kick to her ribs sending her flying off the small hill they had been fighting on.

>As she fell the beast was quickly following behind, she grabbed for the nearest thing she could reach and pulled a jagged piece of plascreete using it to catch herself and cease her tumbling. She looks up to see the dark form leaping into the air, axe in hand to rend her apart forcing her to leap at him and tackle it catching it by surprise. No doubt the fiber bundles of her armor strained under the thing's weight but she managed to hold on turning the thing aside and forcing it to fall onto it's back. Empowered by fury and adrenaline she stamps the beast's wrist forcing it to let go of it's axe and fell upon it...

>>43810143
Didn't think about them so intensely, but I think they could be fluffed out as weapons that belonged to the noble family from which one of their Mother Superior came from. That Mother Superior lived back in the earliest days of the coven.

Family got slaughtered by Chaos Cultists in a epic last stand and only she survived (because she was fighting somewhere else along her warriors).

She came back and found the weapons safe from heretic hands. She then proceeded to find the cultists and with her warriors slaughter them to a man...until she found out they had a Hellbrute with them.

She killed the Hellbrute by stabbing it with one swords, and the proceeded to cut him out with the other from its sarcophagus.

After the battle she gave away the swords to the sisterhood's reliquary for future use.

>>43810223

>(cont) using her plascreet dagger she jams it into the eye slot of it's helmet causing it to howl in pain . She straddles it's chest and begins to pound relentlessly into it's armored head. Blow after blow her punches are relentless only stopping to swat away it's hand as it tried to reach up and grab at her.

>It seemed like she punched it for an eternity and the thing seemed to be immortal and immune to her assualt but by the time she was exhausted and she could no longer feel her fist there was a goring mess where once a head had been. She fell to her side, her body spent and her arms felt warm and wet from the blood that seeped from her broken hands. She vaguely recalled that there were other cultist about her and wondered why they hadn't set themselves upon her but at the very least she felt she had done her duty for the Emperor.

>Hearing the sounds of several footsteps approaching her she willed her body to turn and face the new assailants but thankfully the Emperor had seen fit to see her serve him more as the familiar shape of fellow sisters appeared and a hospitaliar at her side quickly and efficiently tending to her now broken body.

>"What of the battle?" Alyssia spoke up meekly barely having the energy to raise her gore encrusted hand. "Rest now sister, the heretics have been routed and we are taking care of the stragglers, the death of their commander was a grevious blow to their morale."

>>43805383
>They all die when they run into something harder than a Guardsman.

People in power armor can punch through light tanks, even non-Astartes, and are still extremely durable. They may not be Astartes, but they're not pushovers by any definition.

Something along the lines of the Har Ganeth executioners. Have them use two-handed powerswords (eviscerators are for uncultured barbarians) and always aim to decapitate their opponents with a single strike

>>43807435
>request for a new one because Octavia doesn't want to, "Clean the fear-shit off it".

Sister Octavia confirmed for a hard-ass motherfucker

>>43810402
I'll have to add Alyssia to the list of notable chars :P

Kind of wanting to draw this metal kind of sisters now. Would they wear anything different from your regular SoB?

>>43810487

I kind of wanted to make it longer but was running out of steam. If the thread survives I'll try to come up with a situation where Alyssia 1 v 1s with a Wytch.

>>43810580
Monk robes, think what an imperial priest would wear, but with elements of armour underneath and on top.

>>43810636
Cool. Let's see if I can make anything good of it.
Also
>monk robes
>not having to draw all that armor
Yes.

>Order Profile
http://pastebin.com/FQTGxJfd

>>43810656
Well, thank you at the very least, I'm sure it'll turn out good :)

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>>43811089
I hope it does. Working...

>>43811139
well I can assure final pic will be of a better quality.

>>43811139
Proportions look great, like what you're doing with the armour and the way the Aquila is incorporated into the spear is quite good. I'd suggest short hair, since it's less likely to be grabbed.

>>43811139
looks good.
I wish I could draw feet

>>43811256
Mike Mignola can not draw feet, as long as he doesn't get his ass on doing it we are all allowed to ignore feet.

>>43811139
Sexy...

The feet we can make it so that she has really thick and sturdy footwear.

>>43811432
We mentioned earlier that there's a metal in 40K that absors kinetic force, so it could be martial arts style gauntlets and shin guards, with more gladiatorial stuff elsewhere, though this drawing would likely depict one of the less armoured Sisters, like Octavia and Alyysia

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How's it coming together, tg?
Also fuck you captcha I know what a mountain looks like ok?

>>43811518
Nice booty.

>>43811518
It looks awesome, I assume that's her hair, if she's not hooded, but the detail is very nice. And I think I know what most Cacti and trains look like now too.

>>43811556
I always detail the hair last, after the ink.
And there was not a lake there, come on.

>>43811575
Are they palm trees if they point upwards? :P

>>43811518
Very nice

Nitpicking :
Isn't her belt a bit too low ?

>>43811666
It totally is.
it totally turns me on
I'll raise it a bit.
>>43811631
If a captcha triggers alone in the forest, does it make a post?

>>43805023
>Women with weak physical strength
>Entering melee combat with things that Space Marines know to keep their distance from.

I mean, I suppose if the church wants to kill off SoBs they didn't like, I suppose they could transfer them to this new Order, but other than that I can't think of any reason why anyone would even consider something this stupid.

>>43811717
Rule of cool? That and Gaunt, despite being a normal human (Sans balls of steel), can duel a Chaos Space Marine, why can't a girl trained in as harsh conditions and wielding equally powerful weaponry?

>>43811717
Dude, this is 40K.

A place where women don't give a damn about their limitations.

>>43811700
So, hair or nun hat ? And in that case, which one.

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>>43811717
>setting with literal god-entities
>the greatest melee warriors of the most human-like xenos species are a warrior caste of women only
>complaining about highly trained women in power armor beating the shit out of novice warriors not wearing power armor being beaten by them
>Complaining about anything ever about 40k
seriously man?

>>43811780
It is hair. And I am nearly done.

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>>43811518
Smaller breast. Larger Hip. Longer Glaive and longer Glaive blade.

>>43811717
Given that their recruits are likely fairly handpicked and trained from childhood, assuming I remember Sorita lore correctly, and have all the benefit of 10s of thousands of years of evolution and whatever genetic tinkering that may be done to them or their ancestors, I'd say it's perfectly justifiable.

Gonna have to go soon fellow fags, will check in tomorrow for sweet drawfaggotry and to write some more :P

>>43811868
A bit late given how I am nearly done with the ink, man.

>>43811892
I too gonna have to go to sleep now.

Hoping that the thread will be still on after 1:00 pm since I come back home at this hour.

>>43811930
If not I'll start another and link to the old one since we've got plenty of ideas going so far :P

>>43811990
You should then save this thread in the archives on thisisnotatrueending.

>>43812147
Well dang me...

>>43812147
OP here, on my phone, awesome pic, I'll try and get the thread saved in the morning if someone can tell me how, if not I've got the pastes of everything I wrote with the ideas down :P

Well anons, I know what my next DH character will be, if I ever get the chance to play as a PC with my group.

>>43812298
You can use the pic if you want then.
>>43812190
>>43812282
I am not quite happy with it to be honest, but work is work. And drawing quickly is a skill to be picked up. In case anyone was wondering, brush and nib with Windsor&Newton ink were used, plus a pen and a ruler for the halberd's staff.

>>43812147
Really nice, especially the face and general proportions.

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>>43805470
When I hear 'stores and releases kinetic energy' I think of a flywheel. Great inertia resists speeding up and slowing down. So perhaps such a material has disproportionate inertia for it's weight and size, and requires a longer wind-up.

>The upshot is Popeye Sororitas

>>43815183

As they described it the version that is a chain is more powerful then the fist version because you can spin the chain around to store up energy so I'm assuming it's better made for weapons like flails and what not although a powered armored fist covered in the metal could do a lot more then just straigh muscle (unless you're a marine of course)