IT'S A PRANK, MAN
IT'S A PRANK
IT'S A SOCIAL EXPERIMENT
CHILL OUT, MAN

>>43970123
>W-We still have Feywild superiority!

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>>43970123
>Elves have been here since time immemorial
>Humans have existed since before the start of time. This is their 7th universal cycle. They have achieved metempsychosis so powerful that they are all but guaranteed to come into existence on several planets.

>>43970123
>"What the fuck is "space"?
>"Wait, other WHATS?!"
>"In ships how big?"
>"I'm sorry, is that the record or the average?"
>"Fuck."
>"You're telling me they can literally shit a perfect copy of my life's work out of a box, for free. This isn't even something special for them."
>"I spent four hundred years on that sculpture. I carefully covered and positioned it with the seasons to allow natural weathering to perfectly accent my design, over the course of decades. This piece has seen three hundred and sixty-four winters, and has never felt summer's heat. It was unprecedented. I was called a visionary."
>"And you've had an artistic SUB-GENRE dedicated to this exact practice since before I was born."
>[ego crash intensifies].leaf

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>>43970868
>elves are just an offshoot genetic experiment race of mankind that got forgotten a goddamn while ago

Alright, Elf council. We, and only we, know the truth about humanity...well, maybe besides the other humans. Anyway, how do we destroy all evidence of this and wipe out the humans before the rest of the elves start worshipping humanity and we lose power?

Hopefully they,along with the dwarves, kill themselves

>elves are just a bunch of genetically altered humans with fetishes for overly feminine things and pointy ears who forgot about their origins after a cataclysmic event

>>43971052
Except we (humanity) would have outbred them and easily murdered feminine types. We are, after all, naturally superior.

>>43970123
You say that like said humans wouldn't immediately start abducting elves to rub their ears.
If humans are as advanced as the premise implies, elves can't do shit.

>>43971044
Are they buying our ore and selling us ale? Yes? Then we don't give a fuck.

>>43971083
But they are humanity, they just regressed after a terrible accident.

Why would you not re-enlighten your brethren?

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>elves are a genetic offshoot of the superior race of humans to serve as sex slaves

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>>43971083
I dunno man, say what you want but I actually kind of like the idea that elves are some ancient custom-made leisure race who forgot their origins and actually ended up finding their own destiny and reason to exist. They don't even have to be made by humans - maybe humans are actually the scut labor force, and orcs the shock trooper force. That'd be a fucking shakedown when the wrecked remnants of your creator race comes rolling in trying to force you all to get back in line.

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>>43971152
More fun to seduce them.

>>43970123
>The experiment ends
>All the humans mental blocks are removed and they are evacuated
>The elves demand to know whats going on
>Send down a diplomat to explain the situation
>Diplomat and his men are engineered to be far superior to anything they've ever dealt with
>Elves have a breakdown because now they realize they are the equivalent to orcs compared to Space Humanity
>Diplomat tells them that we'll leave them alone and leaves
>The planet is purged of all life via grey goo weaponry and prepared for recolonization two weeks later.

>>43970123
Depends on if the current humans know about this or not.

If they don't, they'll probably continue being assholes, now with the added capability of calling them stupid foreigners.

>>43971152
We can't take them all, or there won't be new elves. We've got to follow an intelligent conversation program.

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>>43971152
You say that like humans wouldn't have already created dragons for the same purpose.

>>43971199
Idea taken, writing up a campaign on it now ty anon

>>43970471
>RAVIOLI RAVIOLI
>WHAT'S IN THE PORTABLE HOLIOLI

>>43971052
>elves are a race of runaway living decoration, doubling as gardeners and stewards, forgotten and abandoned by their human masters

>>43970868
I like to imagine the elf just sitting down on the floor and rocking back and forth sobbing to himself. Then the human asks if he wants to talk about it. After all, he was into that indy crap for a little while a few thousand years ago. Maybe asks if he could see the sculpture just to stop the elf crying, like a man consoling a toddler.

And then he sees the sculpture, and it's like a solid 5/10 compared to the stuff he has back home. Looks like it was made by somebody with a bit of talent but who has never done this sort of thing before.

He tries to compliment it because he doesn't want to be a dick, but all he can do is screw his face up, hem and haw, and give half-hearted comments like 'Well, I kind of like this part right here' and 'Oh, well, that's an interesting stylistic choice' while the elf has a look on his face like he is desperately trying to avoid breaking into tears again.

>>43971322
>Elven adventurers are elves that have seen space humanities greatest works and have given up their dreams of artistry and just want to wander around killing things to make the pain stop.

>>43970123

I've actually been in a campaign like that, and here's what those elves said, "whoa -can you leave now?"

In that setting the elves are parochial and myopic compared to the trans-dimensional, millennium old human empire.

They mostly did their best not to be exterminated, and quietly hoped the "Empire" would finally just leave them alone.

>>43970123
Little do they know the REAL social experiment has only jusy begunned

>>43970545
>They have achieved MEMEpsychosis

"And so it was that of all the races, humans despite their shortcomings, came to master that divine art of Memes previously the realm of only the gods. And in so doing, how very much like the gods they became, such that humans of all the races managed to survive through the death of their universe and the rebirth of the next. Some even believe it is not the first time they have accomplished such a feat, through the power of Memes and their mastery of them."

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>>43971607
THE MEMES JACK

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>>43970123
I could swear there is a Culture story about something similar to this.

>>43970944
wouldn't that mean that elves are still the master race?

>>43971682
>dark niggers
isn't that just the regular kind?

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>>43970123
>Oh crap, another one escaped the grid.
>What's he doing.
>I think it's a dance
>Naw, he did that last week when he found Observation Post Theta-b. This place is probably brining back repressed memories.
>So what should we do with this one?
>Pump sedatives into his chamber. Just scrub his mind again and toss him out at the edge of town. Tell the Adventurer Operatives to make up a story of why his memory is so hazy then help him back to town. They're good at making shit up.

>>43971724
No, it means they are an evolutionary dead end, a failure because they are miles behind their progenitors.

>>43971774
>adventurers passing out and waking up in a church when "defeated" is actually just the advanced overseeing race rounding up stragglers

>>43971322
"Oh yeah, I ain't real good at bringin' bad new so uh...gonna tell ya outright, the one in the middle is off balance. You can feel it. Barely but it's still there. Don't worry though, it's probably because it's a millimeter too wide. Tell you what, I take it back to the shop, file it down, give it a nice polish and get it back to ya in a week? Howzat? Sir? Ah jeez. I think he had a heart attack. Alright, who brought the defib?

>>43971184
Because despite their appearance elves are neckbeards and by that time the first thing the posthumans did was getting rid of all the neckbeards from the human civilisation.

>more hfy shit
*yawns*

>>43971199
this is the long abandoned Earthdawn/Shadowrun secret history

The creator race is dragons

>>43971755
That's brown niggers

>>43971933
At least it's a relatively new idea as opposed to 'POST HFY LEL' like the normal threads.

>>43971933
You're overreacting. This is a routine trope reversal.

>>43970123
>But why?
>>Ah-actually I don't know. I'm just a temp.
>A t-temp?
>Yeah, I'm doing this for extra credit. Let's see Professor Stallica give me a 'C' now!

>>43971988
>>43971993
Ignore him, he's allergic to fun.

>>43972015
>implying being allergic to memes is a bad thing
I'm still not seeing dwarves being the target. It's always elves this, elves that. If some fucking ungrateful grudgewanking midget with a beer stained dead beaver in his face cheated a human, you'd still blame it on elves.

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>elves are all the descendants of the followers of a war criminal who practiced eugenics and mass genocide on half a dozen worlds
>war criminal lead a cult, cult includes women and children and shit
>space humanity can't just execute them all, nor can they be integrated into mainstream society
>better to just wipe their memories and throw them on a penal world that is intentionally kept at feudal technology levels
>elves are carefully monitored and encouraged to be isolationist and focus on cultural pursuits
>still huge assholes and really skilled at war, though

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Obligatory, one of the few text blocks in my lewd folders.

>>43972076
>ungrateful grudgewanking midget with a beer stained dead beaver in his face
You answered it for me. Dwarves wouldn't be as much fun.

Elves? They have eons of memories, simulated or otherwise, to make them think they are on top. Dwarves know they aren't. The best reaction we'd get is they swear for a bit, then go home and drink until the pain goes away.

>>43972177
I like that too. You're actually some race of supreme slaughterers, but everyone wants to take the best road possible and let you exist, and they did it as best as they could by encouraging your to arts and pacifism and away from your genetic origins as a genocide race.

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>>43972320
Also, they are as perfect as they think they are, what with the eugenics and all, but what caused that perfection is horrible beyond the imagining of any elf.

>>43972320
Krikkit?

>>43970123
About the same way that /pol/ reacts to "we wuz kings" black people.

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>>43972203

Those elves sound like a disaster waiting to happen.

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>>43972348
I figure they'd be shook up to learn "You were intentionally designed and developed down to your DNA to murder the FUCK out of all life and be insanely smug and good about it. It's in your blood to goosestep and pop hard nips over seeing a 'lesser' screaming in the mud under your boot. That's basically all you exist for, and after you did your job, your creators had a handy killcode."

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>Humans are actually a super ancient space-faring race using [typical fantasy planet] as a social experiment.

Meanwhile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKnpPCQyUec

>>43972377
It'd be a hell of a way, a fucking creepy one, to destabilize a population when you think about it. Drop in incredibly beautiful, long lived, artistically amazing, rabbit-breeding creatures who only want to please you to their dying breath. Before you know it, the race is half gone and the world is choked over with elves, nevermind the massive political ramifications and social explosions over it.

>>43972076
>inb4 check your orc privileges

go back to lynthr and fap to your orc on orc porn sindarifag

>>43972320
It's an interesting idea. I'd be most curious to see if, even after the mindscrubbing, some ideas from their old life still bled through - maybe their languages' title for the high king is loosely related to the name of the war criminal, or they just have some apathy towards genocide despite having never exterminated a race in over a hundred generations.

>>43972301
>>43970123
How could we do the same thing to dwarves, orcs, and hobbits?

>>43971210
What's the source on that picture?

>the robot-like race thinks that they were built to protect the whole planet and prevent all the races from destroying themselves
>it turns out that that's the human's job

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>>43972461

>Orcs are actually a fifth-dimensional race that can only interact with this dimension by poking through the equivalent of a pinky finger, otherwise reality itself would begin breaking down.
>They created humanity so that they would in turn create the elves, all as an even more subtle and grandiose social experiment, and observe the results through the one guise no one would expect: the bloodthirsty barbarians with (seemingly) low-IQs.

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>>43972456
I imagine there is likely points in history where there's been some singular elf who seems to achieve some near-deific level of power, goes fucking batshit natters, and just starts to slaughter everything until he's put down, trapped inside of a hormonal and genetic ecstasy that tells him/her to keep killin' and the feelings of I'M FUCKIN' INVINCIBLE will keep pumping through their brain like a nonstop orgasmic ultrahigh. Bath salts combined with heroin and jacked up a few dozen levels without the downsides.

>>43972497
Artist name is nauribon

>>43971933
>*yawns*
>>>/gaia/

>>43972528
Oh jesus, It's Doom guy but all the time and a fag.. I mean an elf

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>Humans were used as a breeding template and carrier by the gods, having been the first animals to evolve sapience and catching the gods fancy/attention as a result
>Every race, be it common, intelligent, magical or monster, initially came as a result of breeding experiments of the gods using humans as the genetic vectors
>Be it elves or dragons or whatever else in between, they were created by successive generations of selective breeding of humans, initially and continually pairing them with strange creatures till the resultant generations became completely different races
>After the gods had their fun, most of the in-between generations/experiments were either killed off or just died to competition or aggression by the "proper" races

Although, it's a pretty fucked up setting by a pretty fucked up DM. Technically anything can breed with humans, and lots of them are carriers for non-human traits. Like if two human parents were unknowingly carriers for beholder genes, the could potentially have a child ranging from full human to full beholder, likely something fucked up in between.

>>43971191

What a fucking ugly image.

>>43972528
The question is would he be considered a monster, or would he be something like an elvish folk hero or even a messiah? I imagine his ecstasy, his actions, would somehow strike a cord with every elf he'd meet, reminding them of long-lost sensations and ideals buried deeply within their specifically prepared DNA.

I'm enjoying this idea too much.

>>43972726
It's not too weird - it's a little like A Spell for Chameleon only without magic being the explanation for why humans would turn into more and more magical creatures every few generations.

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>>43972525
>"Orcs are not 'soap bubbles'. Orcs are 'fingers'. Other place is 'hurting', this place is smooth. "

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>>43972927
>elves enjoy adventuring because it gives them a faint taste of increasing in power, discovering forbidden knowledge, and slaughtering huge numbers of inferior species (in this case goblins, orcs, the undead, and similar dungeon mooks)

That elf girl in your party is not as shy and innocent as you think she is.

>>43972985
>orcs as "fingers"
>all one giant hive mind
>indigenous humans don't have autotranslate, so they never realize the strange word choices is anything sinister or euphemistic, just bad vocabulary on the orc's part

>>43973039
They would quickly figure out that no-one comes back from the "juice parties" tho

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>>43972927
I think they'd be seen as a monster, but they'd have a secret sort of unspoken sympathy in the hearts of other elves. Some little voice that says "Yeah, that makes sense" or gives them a sort of tingle.

I figure learning the truth would likely horrify a lot of elves, but likely create a schism of those who go "Let's let go and have a blood orgy" and the others who are "Fuck that I'm better than what some biological programming tells me"

But yeah. You know how often, elves are spoken of as being young and getting wanderlust out of their systems, they go adventure and then settle down?

They're getting it out of their system, they just don't realize it.

>>43973121
>NO MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DWARVES OF MORIA

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>hobbits were originally designed as mascots of fast food and cereal companies, like Lucky from Lucky Charms and the Keebler Elves
>ended up being way too good at sneaking out of their cages and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down without anyone noticing until it was too late
>eventually took over the research station and it crash landed on the feudal world

If someone can do better, that's fine. I don't think this idea is all that good, but I guess it's worth posting just to keep the discussion going.

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>>43973039
If left unchecked, their murderboner would only grow more powerful as they began to revel in the sensation of their power and superiority - just knowing that you're perfect and superior and getting to revel in it through these displays of power.

That's why it's so important for young elf adventurers to travel with other races - not only do they not want to demean themselves in front of the lesser races, they begin to see elements of themselves in the brutal half-orc barbarian or the purity-obsessed human paladin, and work to keep those from getting out of control.

Or you know one day that shy elf girl scares the grizzled fighter with the sheer power of her murderboner.

>>43973133
I'd laugh if their smug air of superiority was so strong, they ignored their own 'biological programming' - which created their air of superiority in the first place, because it was what made them superior to everyone else.

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>>43973272
>halflings were genetically engineered by crime bosses looking to create the perfect assassin and espionage agent
>family bonds are so strong among halflings because they were designed to be loyal to a group - a mafia family, a triad, ect.
>tend to travel as nomads and keep to themselves because they were supposed to avoid detection by local authorities
>their mischievousness and ready laugh is a softening of the wry, even dark sense of humor that was ingrained in them since birth to allow them to deal with all the immoral acts they'd have to do
>their love of music and art is because their bosses wanted them to be able to instantly recognize valuable things to steal or guard

>>43971988
>relatively new idea
It's half a decade old copypasta

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>>43973362
I'd like to hope their genetic murderboner and narcissism isn't 100% active and their experiences and history color and alter their instincts.

Like, for example, while elves might look down on humans, there's something to be said for their earnestness and survivability despite their imperfection. It's kind of like how one might look at a shark. Humans can make it through a lot of shit, not in a HFY way, but just in an against all odds way. Maybe it's luck, maybe it's something else. Elves find this quality attractive and the result is not only elves spending time with humans (where they would be otherwise isolationist), but breeding with them and producing half-elves. Slowly but surely, the elves are integrating back with humanity, and humanity is benefiting from what elves have to offer to their society.

Ditto with dwarves. Elves hate dwarves, maybe because the original war criminal was some environmentalist, but they are very admiring of their craftsmanship.

>>43970123
They would probably say "that's stupid", because that's stupid.

>>43973362
>I'd laugh if their smug air of superiority was so strong, they ignored their own 'biological programming' - which created their air of superiority in the first place, because it was what made them superior to everyone else.

That's what I'd bank on. Elves have become so sure of their own self-control and being above common violence that they need to channel it into a monstrous willpower to out down the urge to give in. Out of sheer spite.

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>>43972448
Actually, they really were. I remember discussing that setting... I wonder if the writer'll ever get back to me again?

Basically, the Elves were an attempt to convince humans to loosen their laws on genetic manipulation, by presenting a genetically superior specimen not as a conquering ubermensch, but as a disarming package that was intensely helpful and pleasant to be around. The race wasn't technically human, so slave trading was legal. They were given to pirate groups, who 'ranched' them on worlds and sold them on. The high population growth was to make them attractive to said pirates - human society IS post-scarcity, but it was never meant to be left in as long as it was.

Sadly, the experiment went MILDLY off the rails when the space police busted the slavery rings and elf slaves were emancipated by law. With no control left over the sample size, things started to go a little out of control, but besides the population growth, everything was going fine.

...And then the Genetic Liberation Front started its campaign, the Dark Elves appeared and it all went a bit wrong.

>>43973570
Of course, of course - a lot of this genetic stuff is fairly deeply buried, especially when their culture completely changed from the eugenics cult they were before.

If we consider some of the other ideas in this thread, like orcs not being from this dimension and barely existing in it, that would mean humans would be one of the few other races that are actually from the same stock as elves. So that might make humans attractive to elves, since they're literal kindred even if they don't realize it.

I don't know if we should throw dwarves in if they haven't been explained as some sort of neo-human thing yet. Kind of goes against the slightly science fantasy thing that's going on.

>>43973668
I guess we kind of forget that arrogance can lead to the same willpower as stubbornness. Good on the elves, I guess.

>>43971322
...Why would people who rely on replicators be any better at making things by hand than people that have spent their entire lives making things by hand?

>>43973941
That last post in that image is kinda stupid.

The idea that sentient beings hardcoded to be subservient would automatically become miserable if that coding were removed is silly. You might as well say that if someone changes their mind about something they'll go insane.

New pathways and neural capabilities by definition are not harmful in that way. They expand a creature's ability to apply its cognition to the world, they don't cross out old capabilities and leave some kind of vacuum. When your brain develops over childhood and your reasoning abilities expand, you don't magically lose the ability to be happy.

>>43974309
Imagine if you removed a human's drive to, say, reproduce. Nothing really matters anymore with regards to family, or the affection of others, or succeeding in looking after themselves more than the bare minimum (at least if you believe the Freudian model). Instead, they're left with just their thanatos, without their libido to balance it out. Now add in neural scarring and fuck knows what else. You have left a very, VERY damaged, possibly psychotic individual.

This isn't so much changing their mind as forcibly scrubbing out a key part of their physiological makeup with a wire brush to the brain-pan. If they'd had a chance to grow up and develop their brains like humans, then maybe it'd work, but imagine having every lesson you were ever taught in your childhood stripped away.

You no longer have connections between 'right' and 'wrong' and you no longer care about anything you were taught was 'important'. One of the conclusions you could draw is that if existence is now meaningless, it might be better to just end it. Or you might try something, ANYTHING to feel the sensation of 'right' and 'wrong' again.

That is where the Dark Elves come from.

>>43974445
Well, the prior post seems to state that the process creates new pathways, so none of that should be a problem.

None of that should be a problem anyway, to be honest, because if literally every single moral or social foundation in the elf's mind was predicated on one thing, they already wouldn't function as individuals. That's not how a mind works.

It's also a matter of degrees. Getting rid of the desire to always please [x] people isn't the same as getting rid of the desire to mate. It simply re-positions the order of importance of said desire. It means that instead of a person HAVING to do something, they can instead choose to do that thing. It's a matter of degrees. The biochemical stimuli and psychological enjoyment gained from the gratification of others isn't necessarily removed in such a case, it's just made manageable. Let's say these elves, at base, only have the [make human happy] button in their brain - they can push no other buttons. Introducing the [whatever, just lie in today] or [play vidya] or [go to work] button as an alternative does not mean that the act becomes less gratifying or important. It simply means it's not NECESSARY.

Socially condition a human to never be able to say no to someone, and yes, they will change as a person if you gradually introduce the concept of doing that. But they won't go insane, and you don't necessarily take away anything.

But eh, I get the impression the thread that post is from was probably subject to a lot of RP faggotry full of typical "nuh uh here's how it works because I [have this opinion and want it reflected] [want this to be canon] [want to fap] [pick multiple of the former]" that goes on in those threads.

>>43974133
Because spending hundreds of years making something doesn't mean it'll be good. You can work with art for your entire life and still be mediocre at that, training alone doesn't give any guarantees of improvement.

>>43974309
I dunno, think how miserable humans get sometimes because they have no obvious purpose or intrinsic reason for existence. It was a disfunctional, but symbiotic relationship - the elves had their purpose in serving humanity and making them happy, and humanity had an obvious place as master over the elves, and even if they were reluctant to have their help, they didn't want to displease the eager elves.

>>43974688
That's not really a reason for the replicator-reliant people to be better at working with their hands, though.

>LE EBIN SUBVERSION (that's actually a cliche in and of itself) MEEMOO
Yeah no.

Its shit.

>>43970123
"I am nearly a millennium old, how the fuck did this get by me?"

>feudal world is orbited by several monitoring and research satellites
>inhabitants interpret these satellites as equivalents of the zodiac and that they affect their lives in various ways
>symbols and influence are related to what kind of satellite it is (e.g. the geographic survey satellite is related to knowledge or the asteroid defense satellite is protection and war)

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>>43970123
>So the humans are actually filthy immigrants? Figures...

>>43971199

What is Midkemia.

>>43971933
>>43971988
Alright. Let's say it's the Goblins that have been doing it instead. Then what?

>>43974445
Just wanted to chim in. I am actually asexual, know a bunch other asexuals. Almost all child free. I wouldn't say this make much impact on any of us, as you say.

>>43974785
They aren't better because they rely on replicators. They are better because they rely on the math that made those replicators. They can see a flaw others can't because the machine finds the flaw and corrects it. Programs that can magnify an image down to the pixel for corrections can be infinitely better than someone who can only see with the naked eye. When you have tools that bring your vision to life down the molecular level(if you achieved deep space travel then your probably do), you can make works that those who only have more primitive tools can only gawp at.

>>43975314
You made a voluntary choice. He's referring to people who had that choice taken away and a decision thrust on them. It's not jarring when you arrive to that yourself. Not nearly as much when it is forced on you.

>>43975290
Fucking GFY

>>43971199
That's pretty much the exact plot to the start of lore of 2011 Thundercats.

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>>43970123
New religions would be founded. Doubt the humans would let them retain such memories in order to keep the experiment from being contaminated. Their minds will be wiped or they'll be so doped up any memory of the event will be hazy and hard to remember.

But chances are at least a few will retain a foggy memory of such an encounter, believe they came in touch with a 'god' and believe what they had was a vision, to try and make sense of what they saw.

Like that episode of Star Trek where the Proto Vulcan was patched up after an incident, but remembered Picard, and interpreted his hazy memory as a vision of a god

>>43975392
If you're relying on math to make art, you're not making art. You're engineering something.

Flaws are what makes art...well, art. If it's 100% perfect in every way, it's boring.

>>43975648
Then anything made by Photoshop of Sai isn't art. Any animation done by Flash, or at any point was worked on with a computer isn't art because that's what they are, machines. Every color, every line, every layer is simple the machine's mathematical interpretation of the visual medium.

What you get from them isn't perfection because perfection is relative. You get the user's defenition of 'perfect'. They can work with details others never would be able to see.

>>43974683
>because if literally every single moral or social foundation in the elf's mind was predicated on one thing, they already wouldn't function as individuals. That's not how a mind works.

Which was exactly the problem. The elves from that setting weren't "hard coded" to please humanity, because you can't really hard code an organism for something that abstract. Instead their various social instincts (attraction, nurturing, submission, compassion, loyalty, etc.) were re-wired to be triggered by stimuli predominantly found in adult humans. Efforts to "free" the Elves focused on suppressing that stimulus response, but often produced the side effect of making the "free" Elves introverted, depressed, and even violently anti-social.

>>43975750
Technically, it isn't. Photoshop and flash isn't what I would refer to as art.

That's just my opinion, and it's not a popular one at that, I'll admit.

>>43975392
Better math = better art is pretty dumb.

Owning photoshop does not mean you are going to be able to match Goyer.

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>>43975896
No but you see details others don't. What may take an artist years to accomplish with a brush can be replicated in minutes.

>>43975754
That doesn't really make sense either.

Having the stimuli you receive from something lessened from an overpowering to manageable degree isn't really damaging. I mean, these elves basically seem unable to fight the urge to serve humans, which is less akin to having a sex drive than having a sex drive that is ridiculously strong, to the point where all other areas of your brain find it difficult to work around that desire.

We actually medicate people for stuff like this all the time. It doesn't destroy them.

But I suppose I'm arguing the logic of fapfiction here, so, eh.

>>43970123

>HUMANITY FUCK YEAH!: FANTASY EDITION

I am very okay with this.

>>43976012
Go choke on a dick.

>>43975392
>>43975648
>>43975750
>>43975788
>>43975896
We also have to define what 'art' is.

I think the best interpretation is that art is a physical form of a meme (a Richard Dawkins meme, not a grinch in a hockey mask meme), which have three successive goals:

1. Draw attention to itself.
2. Convert viewers to share its viewpoint.
3. Get converts to continue to spread the viewpoint.

If a piece of art manages to do that and do that well, it's a good piece of art.

>>43975947
Yeah, that's mere replication, though.

Creating art is more than just looking at something and copying it. To say nothing of having the manual dexterity, the patience, etc, to do so. A human with photoshop doesn't suddenly become a virtuoso because their computer can helpfully point out and quantify what exact tones are being used, how long certain lines are, etc.

And this is assuming that high tech humans must have incredible, computer-like mathematical skills, which is kinda dubious. Many places are getting less educated in regards of mathematics as our computerized systems get better at it.

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A better question:
How would elves and humans react to machine showing up from space and just tearing up the earth and skies for the purposes of terraforming?

For the purposes of this example, assume the end result of terraforming is actually pretty damn pleasant for the elves and humans, but the middle part is scary and maybe dangerous.

>>43975788
That's fucking stupid.

>>43976160
>How would elves and humans react to machine showing up from space and just tearing up the earth and skies for the purposes of terraforming?
They wouldn't have a clue what was going on, other than it being immediately dangerous for them, so poorly.

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>>43976065
>A human with photoshop doesn't suddenly become a virtuoso
I'm not saying they will. What I am saying is that something like this which could have taken months by hand, takes days, maybe less with a machine.

>And this is assuming that high tech humans must have incredible, computer-like mathematical skills, which is kinda dubious

If you are working in an observation station, monitoring entire species in a giant social experiment you damn well better learn math behind it. Otherwise you better have a mop in your hand because the only possible reason you're there is to clean the toilets.

>>43973474
yesss

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>>43976186
>>cont.
If it was made with a machine, does that make it any less 'art-like' than other pieces? Just because your strokes are translated as numbers, does that make them any less artistic? Don't they still carry the flaws of the user?

>>43976160
>For the purposes of this example, assume the end result of terraforming is actually pretty damn pleasant for the elves and humans, but the middle part is scary and maybe dangerous.
Even from the outside I'm pretty skeptical, since if terraforming is going on that generally means some very technologically advanced people are moving in. And more technologically advanced people moving in often doesn't turn out very well for the natives, historically.
Anyway, the elves and humans don't actually know what the hell so they'll probably think this is some kind of straight-up apocalypse, anyway.

>>43976239
>that generally means some very technologically advanced people are moving in
Those guys died a long time ago due to unrelated reasons

>>43976160
>A better question:
No, it's not. This has been done before. We'll get a War of the Worlds scenario. Only without the Martians to kill with horrible diarrhea.

>>43976280
sorry, I just wanted to talk about elves and robots.

>>43976010
It was partly that human scents, human contact, human approval, and human affection triggered massive Dopamine spikes in the elves brains. Humans were like drugs to the elves. They were addicts and after being freed they couldn't get their fix. Also, because of the nature of the "liberation" process (which was flawed), and their genetic predispositions, they would have difficulty deriving stimulation from other sources. This would cause some to become depressed and withdrawn, while others became adrenaline junkies constantly seeking new sensations. Some could "recover" (i.e. approach a normal human psychology) with time and treatment, but most just wanted their 'drug' back.

What's more, because re-wired social instincts were the basis of the "programming", anti-social personality disorders often resulted when the liberation process went awry. Changes meant to moderate an Elf's sense of compassion could end up removing it entirely. Keep in mind, the Elves would always reject the "freedom" offered to them by the Genetic Liberation Front, so most of the GLF's rescues weren't done in controlled clinical settings. As the prior post indicated, the GLF eventually resorted to wide spread releases of viral delivery systems. These had inconsistent results.

Elves as engineered had dependency issues were humans were concerned, but they were otherwise psychologically stable and high functioning members of society. The GLF's crude meddling threw their minds out of balance. Some "recovered", many did not.

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>>43976311
Don't apologize, he's being a dick. Here, have an Elf.

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>>43975170

We have to build a wall!

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>>43970123
> Elves are not the heirs of an ancient civilization.

>>43976396
You know that's how it will end. Elves, dwarves, and humans will band together, try to fight off machines, machines activate their defenses, and the alliance gets massacred. Enchanted arrows of Trueflight don't do much against supersonic missiles of kaboom.

>>43976349
To be honest, this is all still stuff we medicate and work through in real life with people either born with similar dependencies or conditioned into them.

I wouldn't really consider a person stable if they have ridiculous dependency issues of the kind you're describing, by the way. Being rendered moribund by rejection, for example, as it seems to be implied these elves are, isn't really healthy. An entire subspecies of people like that is a recipe for disaster. The obvious solution is to just fix the offspring of these people in-utero so that they don't have to deal with a lifetime of dopamine conditioning. You could argue that the mother wouldn't want this, but we generally ignore the mother's rights in this regard if she's an addict and is in danger of passing her addiction on.

More and more this is just sounding like an excuse for a setting where the self insert gets to be both the caring concerned white knight and the slave owner.

>>43976471
COMING OVER HERE, TAKING OUR JOBS. TOUCHING OUR EARS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a6hRXafW5w

>>43976569
>this is all still stuff we medicate and work through in real life with people either born with similar dependencies or conditioned into them.

True, but imagine someone detonated a bomb in you capital city causing most of your population to suffer these issues.

>>43975788
I disagree with your opinion. But I respect it, and appreciate you not claiming it as the factual definition.

>>43976628
Problematic, but really, this should have just been done by authorities, consenting or not.

A population that is totally dependent on some other portion of the population isn't really sustainable or humane. For one, dependency issues mean other issues - if someone is reliant on someone else to feel good about themselves, their ability to act rationally is heavily impaired, the then there's the aforementioned problems regarding depression...

>>43973362
>>43973570
What if Elf murderboners are just the result of experimenting with Human's murder inhibitor?

I read somewhere that the reason why human's possess a literal unnatural ability and desire to kill comes down to the fact that the bundle of nerves that control your desire to fuck, can basically be switched to the other way and make you want to kill that same thing, just as badly. And because of the population bottleneck tens of thousands of years ago, there was an evolutionary jumpstart to our desire to fuck, turning it into a constant desire to bone everything with a hole. With Sadism being something of a crossed wire.

So what if Elves are just that? Humans who've been genetically enhanced with their lust to kill being borne from the fact that their brains can literally not tell the difference of if they're really having the best lay of their life or if they're crushing the womb of a screaming 8 month's pregnant woman.

>>43976628
Whats the greater evil?

Soft Tyranny, never knowing the truth or hard life, having to deal with one's ordeals?

The elves, in any case, were the true victims and given the setting established, its clear that the authorities that be, do not wish for the elves to have any sort of free will outside of their most hard coded instincts, those being to serve and be subjugated, in addition to the referenced numerous incidents where elf mistreatment was a serious and ignored issue.

>>43977116
I don't think the idea is that elves are evil sociopaths who murder people.

It's that they've got the potential to be genocidal due to the fact they are genetically perfect, are innately skillful in numerous things including warfare and combat, and live for thousands of years.

>... Kender are the ancient super race.

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>>43977342
YOU'RE LYING

YOU'RE FUCKING LYING!

>>43977342
I suppose their inability to comprehend property would make sense if they're psychologically adapted to an advanced post-scarcity society.

>>43977342
So that's why they don't give a shit about anything...

>>43971184
Because of the whole "Abhor the mutant" thing that forbids any negotiation with them. We need an Ordo Hereticus conclave to determine if they are abhumans or not in the first place.

>>43972922
Agreed. Those proportions are way out of whack. A little reduction in the hip, breast, and neck length regions would lead to a much prettier picture.

>>43972177
>pic
best elf is best elf. how is she so cute?

>>43971724
Not if they were created to be fucktoys.

And let's face it, if we create variant humanoids with our awesome biotech, that's basically the only reason ever.

>>43972456
>or they just have some apathy towards genocide despite having never exterminated a race in over a hundred generations.
isn't that typical elf mindset? no elf will bemoan the genocide of ... well, actually literally any other race in fantasy. from orcs, to humans, to dorfs, to dragons.

>>43977488
Pretty much yeah.
>>43867117

>>43977515
Oh yeah. That thread was fun too.

>>43977488
I assume there will also be at least one genetically-modified super-soldier program per generation per major military power. Plus people in general wanting their babies to grow up to be geniuses or literally Superman or whatever.

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>>43977342
That would explain why everything seems to be a fucking holiday for them. The wisest know that they're important because they could fuck up the world if they didn't want to just mess with everyone.

>>43977486
Because she's not overly slutty or cute in a sickly-sweet sense. She's just right.

>>43973474
What would be the reason behind the creation of gnomes? Humanity wanted great inventors but something went haywire and the test subjects escaped?

>>43977570
>I assume there will also be at least one genetically-modified super-soldier program per generation per major military power. Plus people in general wanting their babies to grow up to be geniuses or literally Superman or whatever.
Private sector gene modification is already a thing. there was even controversy on it for some deaf couples getting gene tailored offspring to specifically be deaf as well. because "deaf is not a disability its our race hurr durr you ablists are trying to commit medical genocide on the deaf with your "cures" and shit"
but yea, people are definitely gonna do private sector gene tweaking.
And yes, obviously there would be a minimum of one super soldier program per military

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designer_baby

>>43977598
Someone had a fetish and decided to make something to live up to it.
Biostudent's first sapient race. Won a contest to be used in the latest fantasy world.
Someone fell asleep or got bored at the species creation screen and moved the chargen sliders all weird.
Plenty of possibilities.

>>43977598
>What would be the reason behind the creation of gnomes? Humanity wanted great inventors but something went haywire and the test subjects escaped?
If you think about it, what do we know about elves?
1. Pointy ears
2. They require less sleep than humans
3. Live longer

Everything under number 3 (which will be a fuckton of things) as well as number 2 is basically "medical advances". Pointy ears is literally the elves only non medical trait.
The reason is then simple. Their ancestry all goes back to a single individual who was a human from a highly advanced society who had very advanced medical genetic engineering.
The only thing that needs actual explaining is their ears... which is easily explained as a minor cosmetic alteration from their ancestors

>>43977673
this actually reminds me of the anime star ocean ex.

So, humans in space, fractured into a bunch of evil empires. one of them uses slaves in dangerous space labor. they genetically modify them to have elf like ears and IIRC different skin tone, be perfectly adapted for 0g and sapce, and live a long time.
The slaves rebel, eventually create the largest most advanced empire. origin kept mostly secret due to pride.
Most humans hate evil space elves.

One of the characters is a human from an advanced world who actually lives for hundreds of years too just like elves due to medical genetic engineering. still visibly normal human. Hides the fact he has equal longevity to the hated space elves.

>>43975423

Not the anon you're replying to, but being asexual is not generally a choice, in regards to how the term is typically defined. When it is, the word that would be used would often be some form of celibacy, or charity, maybe just because the person likes that idea better. I'm not particularly well-versed in how aesexual behavior and lack of sexual desire for others are understood to be caused, but what I recall is it's generally thought to be a mix of hormonal and neurological. Though there may be genetic factors as well, as with just about everything.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people did use the term asexual to describe a voluntary (i.e., there was no built in preference) decision not to engage in sex, or if someone lost all interest due to traumatic experiences. But I don't believe it is the definition that's used, strictly speaking.

I apologize if I've rambled or been incoherent, I haven't slept in entirely too long. I'm not sure why I'm even posting this.

>>43977745

*charity = chastity, jesus fuck I need to go to bed. Also what is sentence structure.

>>43972203

https://warosu.org/tg/thread/S28833444

Best damned thread I've seen in a while. I might try a sequal later.

>>43971083
You don't know that until a extinction event rolls around.
It might turn out the alterations the sex slaves got makes them superior for long term resettling.

>>43977745
>When it is, the word that would be used would often be some form of celibacy
Normally, yes. but remember that in this modern age you have plenty of stupid and edgy kids who want to feel special and different so they will describe their celebacy as asexuality..
Although their celibacy isn't a choice either, they are just that undesirable to anyone

>>43977708
So BotS? Also
>betraying race for space nazi elf pussy

>>43978147
>So BotS?
what does bots stand for?

>>43978147
>betraying race for space nazi elf pussy
the space elfs are not actually nazies. all the empires are evil, they are probably the least evil of all the empires. (still evil). Nicer societies exist but don't amount to anything more than easy conquest fodder for the empires. (because duh)

Its just that they are really easy to hate what with their superiority complex, different appearance, and nationalistic propaganda by the even worse evil empires.

Also, in it the MC's dad is the president at the time of the invasion and he "betrays" his people to save them. The people were feeling overly secure about their orbital defenses, the orbital defenses would have not been enough, entire government agrees that to fight would be suicide. But it would cause losses tot he space elves. so they cut a deal, title of nobility and be appointed governor of said planet. Dad immediately places his son in foster care of especially selected people to raise him to put duty to his people first and places himself in exile as an ambassador to space elves.

The focus of the story is the romance by elf princess and the MC. In the background there is galactic war between the various evil empires.

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>>43971301
It's like Crysis/2 all over again
>captcha: way

>>43978495
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E2dHJSJeis
Also dat made up language just for the story

>>43976471
more of a dome, or at the very least a network of sam-sites.

>>43978566
>MFW I was referring to it all along and didn't remember its name properly.

>>43971719
I think pretty much EVERY Culture story is similar to this. Except maybe Excession. And even then, it's pretty much this, except the Culture AIs are the elves for once.

>>43977375
Normally I despise anime, but that was compelling. What's it from?

>>43970123
>Okay sorry for the inconvenience folks, our experiment is concluded. We'll be leaving shortly.
>But what about our quest? We have to slay the evil lord-
>Oh yeah, that's just Jeff, part of the experiment. We kinda shelfed that evil lord junk a while ago. Someone really needs to tell Jeff that.

>>43977570
Yeah, but I assume that supersoldiers wouldn't be elves but more like big burly men (like space marines). No need to make them fetish fuel

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>>43972454
>orc on orc porn

>>43979085
>orc on orc porn
No such thing exists
next you would tell me you found some consensual orc lovemaking

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>>43970123
>Social experiment
>Not it being OUR clay and non-humans being in a dire need of getting OUT of our fucking clay


Gods and non-humans should be executed.

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>>43972407
>It's in your blood to goosestep
a race after my liking

>>43973941
>>43974309
>>43974445
I'm the guy who did the first two posts (the GLF ones). I'm immensely surprised to see that someone remembers them. I was sure that the Elf Waifu Planet post was the only one anyone retained from those threads.

I've wanted to write the Genetic Liberation Front into a campaign ever since I came up with them. Their position is a genuinely ambiguous one. They really are out to give engineered organisms more freedom by altering neurological structures that "hard-wire" them into particular patterns of behavior, or by granting them cognitive abilities they didn't previously have. Apparently the jury is out on whether this is a good thing to do. Every time I've seen someone mention the GLF on /tg/, they've sparked an argument immediately, and I'm slightly proud of that. (Granted, it's happened maybe two or three times...)

>>43978967

Supersoldiers would be autistic musclemen, you're right about that. The sexy+physically strong+smart mods and other stuff associated with elves (tolkienian ones, not dnd midgets) would go to the kids of billionaires.

>>43976010
>But I suppose I'm arguing the logic of fapfiction here, so, eh.
That was basically where the GLF came from, really; I was feeling annoyed at the ease with which people accepted the notion of genetically engineered fucktoy subraces. Life just isn't that simple. (Of course, I myself like lewd elves... why do you think I was in that elf thread in the first place?)

I think the ethical questions are much sharper if the GLF's chainbreaker virus works fairly well, without turning the elves who contract it into brain-damaged psychos. It would still be scary as hell, to a normal elf— it's an invisible contagious thing that radically alters your brain, and even though it's supposed to make you free, the main thing you know about it is that the people who've contracted it change dramatically. But it could be a pretty good story whether you run with the Dark Elves or not.

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>>43979161

>Ctrl+F
>"rape"
>0 results

Ya blew it, /tg/.

The answer is they react by being raped.

>>43979374

For all their superiority, the Humans still haven't taken down those pesky skeletons.

>>43978691
The character is from Bakemonogatari. (or Monogatari series in general) Overall interesting series about youkai and similar paranormal stuff, but the amount of fanservice and Japanese-brand humor can be off-putting for some.

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>>43978691
>Normally I despise anime

>>43978691
This post is especially funny in a thread about anime waifu sex slave elves, started with a picture of some anime elf waifu, and on 4chan.

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>>43979373
>Implying there is anything wrong with man-made robots

ITS JUST A PRANK BRO

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>>43979700
I was agreeing with you you fucknugget

>>43972203
Elf Fuck Yeah?

>>43976065
Not that guy, but I just want to point out10 hours late that visual art is a bad example. Computers are really bad at image recognition so anything involving graphical representations of actual things is going to be pretty far behind what is actually the current technological limit. And even then, we're making progress with things like Deep Dream.

Computers have been writing symphonies for years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzrcoqpnZqA

>>43980787
I'm aware of this stuff.

That said, I wasn't really talking about a computer's ability to make stuff. I was talking about the ability of mathematics to assist a human being in creating 'art'. In this case, a human had zero input, but it seemed to be being argued by the other guy that being able to math good translates into being able to sculpt/compose/paint good too.

>>43979642
It may surprise you to learn that it is entirely possible to browse 4chan while disliking anime. I don't go into fits of pique when I see anime pictures; I just think the medium is melodramatic, poorly written garbage.

Or you may be a moron incapable of realizing this, which seems to be the case with most people who bleat the tired "4chan is an anime website" meme.

>>43974133
Because a post-scarcity society that has finished science has nothing left to do but spend infinite amounts of time on creative pursuits.

>>43972448
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_insect_technique

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>>43972177
>>43972320
>>43972407
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507377/Humans-NOT-come-Earth--sunburn-bad-backs-pain-labour-prove-expert-claims.html

>This thread is what humans tell themselves to make themselves feel better
>Not realizing that this world is under protection of our brave IEN

>>43982482
Lmao what's with this flat snark. Was that really necessary to snap back if you're so sure? Was it necessary that you had to front with: "I think this is cool but I better make sure everyone doesn't think I"m into anime."

Nobody even asked you lol. You're on an anonymous website, where the discussion likely is influenced by anime if it isn't about it. Especially here on /tg/.

>>43982828
The preface serves to indicate that the anime in question is distinct from others. It's similar to a person saying "I don't generally like beer, but this is good--what is it?" A normal, socially adjusted human would understand this without requiring explanation.

>>43970123
>inb4 'wow HFY cancer' posts

>>43982700
I was about to laugh at this, but then I remembered that over half the population of Earth believes an even more fantastical and even less founded account of mankind's origins.

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>>43983305
Did you miss the dozen already

>>43977598
Gnomes were a failed experiment.

A few managed to escape the specimen purge.

>>43980087
>Elf Fuck Yeah?
you mean
>Elf Fuck, Yeah?
punctuation is important, it completely changes what you are saying

>>43971258

This is such a gag inducing picture. I shall now explain why.

First you have the female insulting herself fishing for compliments. That's annoying stereotypical behavior by itself, but it's much worse in this context. It doesn't even make sense since she's a fucking dragon talking about being an "ugly hag" like that has any relation to her, being a god damn dragon with several human lifespans probably behind her and dragons only growing more powerful and magnificent with age in nearly every setting they're in.

Then you have beta male placating her by giving her the compliment she was fishing for. Which is by itself annoying for indulging the compliment fishing, but it is so much worse here. The whole joke here is setting up for using a phrase, combined with physical effort to match it that makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. As a dragon, she literally needs to keep her chin down to even be looking at him. At least the saying's meaning, which is something along the lines of "have confidence" seems to apply to this pathetic excuse for a dragon.

7/10 Art - Good art dawg.
0/10 Message - check your privilege

>>43985602
you raise fair points
that being said, some people are giving her the benefit of the doubt. maybe she has low self esteem despite being a dragon (say, due to emotionally abusive family). It is a possibility and an alternative explanation to your typical self entitled western sow fishing for compliments

>>43985703

I could accept that. In fact, building off of that, one of the few plausible scenarios I can think of is if she was raised exclusively by non-dragons, never acquiring the "Dragon is one step under God" mindset and also constantly comparing her appearance to those of "normal" people. Would also get pretty strange once she outlived everyone...

>>43972448
>>43982661

That's my theory for how Neanderthal went extinct. Compared to them humans are lithe, feminine, make beautiful trilling sounds and live in larger groups. You don't need to kill that cave with 12 Neanderthals, just bring them into your group and within 3 generations they're subsumed

>>43970123
>They are actually a super ancient space-faring race using this planet as a social experiment.
The elves would keep their "oldest race native to this world" superiority and probably wouldn't care.

>>43977818
If you're the original guy, I still have your Gmail, you know. still interested in learning more/writing more with you.

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>>43983444
Implying it isn't 100%.
We still don't have a good enough handle on evolutionary theory either, tbqh. I always thought we kinda jumped the gun on that one, letting it get popular before it was much more advanced than the Spontaneous Generation of Ptolemies era.

I mean, no one has yet come up with a plausible mechanism for the initial rise of life to begin with, and until that happens, "God did it" is about as valid as anything else.

>>43986418
>"Seduce them to your side."
Not: human women raped and enslaved by neanderthals, who could take a human mate much easier than a neanderthal one. Eventually, the babies start to look like the mothers.

Remember, you don't prefer effeminate women because your genes tell you she's more likely to be fertile. You prefer them because your genes tell you she'll be easier to catch and hold down.

>>43971191
I wouldn't touch that bloated sack of shit with a stolen dick.

>>43991137
why would you steal dicks

>>43991130
This disregards the fact that Homo Sapiens were more inventive and adaptive (to say nothing of more genetically resilient) than Neanderthals. Tribes were such small numbers that major fights over resources were rare; it was safer and easier to just move elsewhere, especially pre-agriculture.

Add to that, it could be RISKY for Ug the caveman to go steal pretty weak lady from next tribe over! Sure, she was weaker than he was, but she can pick up a very sharp spear just as easily as a man and in those days especially, she only really needed to get one lucky hit. This intensified after slings were invented, as she can then strike from a range and with the same force as a modern pistol, under ideal circumstances!

Yes, the effeminate women of Homo Sapiens were weak and tempting targets, but even then, they can still cut a bitch. The idea of Ug the caveman dragging woman off by her hair to the cave just isn't supported by the evidence.

>>43991101
We have a pretty solid handle on evolutionary theory, actually. Maybe not on the origins of life, but it is indisputable that this point that the process described in the theory of evolution does occur in nature.

And Bernal's model for biogenesis, while not proven and probably not entirely correct, is has 100% more evidence in support of it than "God did it".

>>43991167
>Your Thief is an unchecked Kleptomaniac and will randomly steal anything without realizing they see
>walk in on an orgy
>Thief loses his mind and starts ripping dicks off dudes and stuffing them in his bag
>Stole a guy's fist as well
>Just his entire fist, torn off at the wrist.
Took us half a day in-game to find him, cause the GM had wrested temporary control, since the Thief had set the "trigger" for his kleptomania to be over-excitement.

>>43970123
Imperium of man ordos xenos preform an experiment on a lost Eldar colony to learn about Eldar sociology

>>43971152
If this thread is anything to go by, elves are as gullible as they are long lived.

If they buy all that out-of-the-blue hog about space travel and sophistication, getting their ears rubbed is more than they deserve.

>>43970868
>"I spent four hundred years on that sculpture. I carefully covered and positioned it with the seasons to allow natural weathering to perfectly accent my design, over the course of decades.

Elves are autistic as fuck.

>>43992432
I think I know what thread you thought you were posting in, but wrong thread bud.

>>43992432
The more you post this the more I want GG to win

>>43991243
>unproven and probably inaccurate
>100% more evidence for it than other option
Your grasp of science seems hindered by your desire to emphasize how incorrect you believe creation theories to be.
Personally, I find the whole evolution vs creation debate to be silly. If God created everything, that means he created the laws of evolution just the same as he created the laws of physics and gravity; creation through starting a process is still creation.
If God doesn't exist, so what? That doesn't change the fact that the general tenets of "Don't be a Dick" found in most scriptures are good rules to live by. Most people who obsess about stuff going against "the word of God" are completely missing the point by taking a literal interpretation of what are better taken as subjective works, meant as guidelines for living better lives. Does knowing how life started change the way you'll treat your neighbors?

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>>43992432
Excuse me, but what does that have to do with elves?

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>>43992756
Bringing the thread back to elves, if we are going off of the theory that humans are eons old and created elves, does that mean that brown elves were the human's attempt at creating perfection?

It worked.

>>43992432
I'm surprised that the copypasta I wrote is so popular.

I see it at least once a day now, it's crazy.

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So since we've decided that elves are a lesser race for the 5XXXth time, what color do you want your sex slave to be?

I'm a fan of light brown to snow white.

>>43992934
How does it feel that your copypasta about there not being a conspiracy has spawned a conspiracy to bleat about there not being any conspiracy?

>>43992986
Snow white for an elven
Just about anything if we start mixing beasts in.

>>43992986
Lightly tanned for me.

>>43992986
I can appreciate both pale and brown elves; they are all beautiful. Called me fucked up if you want, but I'd rather not have my elf be a sex slave. I'd rather have an elf waifu that I can cuddle with and if things get really dirty, I can hold hands with them.

>>43992432
FUCK, I know it's bait, but...

1. GTA 5 in Austraila
2. DOAX3 in America
3. UN committee that includes both Sarkessian and Quinn.
4. Gamers are Dead articles; over 20 released within hours of eachother on the same day.
5. All the bullshit around GOTY contender Witcher 3 when shitty fagfests of games like DA3 and Far Cry 4 get lauded as perfect games.

But congrats, I bit.

>>43978691
That specific scene is from an AMV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXX7dRULFaE

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>>43970123
Better question: What do the humans do now that the elves have figured it out, thereby ruining the experiment?

>>43993592
Try to convince the elves that they're not humans at all, but ascended elven gods

>>43992986
>You really like me, no?

>I, Datsute, like you too.

I'm a fan of orc girls myself.

>>43992432
Is someone just trying to anger all of /tg/ today? Shit like this has been happening in every thread.

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>>43993592
How do you know the goal of the experiment wasn't to see what the elves would do once they actually found out, depending on what sort of technological and cultural level they had reached once it became known?

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>>43994849
the nigger has been doing it every other day for a while now
Basically he spams, gets banned, then spams as soon as the ban expires cause the mod is too retarded to permaban him
Or if they're too pussy to permaban, ban the fuck for a thousand years

>>43992986
>So since we've decided that elves are a lesser race for the 5XXXth time, what color do you want your sex slave to be?
I want one of each

>>43992649
>hurr you're a fedora and are obsessed with disproving god

Way to completely derail the argument. You guys weren't even talking about morality, yet you managed to worm it into this somehow.

Anyway, yeah, Bernal's model DOES have 100% more evidence for it than the Biblical model, even if it's not proven. Even one piece of evidence is 100% more than zero evidence.

>>43970471

O CHIN CHIN DAISUKI DAYOOOO

>>43971607

I AM THE MEME MASTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdAUvAXCUW8

>>43991101
>>43992649
I wish this guy was trolling but I can't be sure.
maybe he really is just that stupid

>>43992649
Be aware, dude, even if you can maybe accept that evolution may have been God's plan, a lot of believers - probably the majority - still take the literal view.

And your point about morality is null because these people tend to conflate having these beliefs with being a good person.

>>43977486

Her character is based on how an actual girl could react to all the shit happening to her. I mean, I love shit like Monster Musume too but girls falling in love with the protagonist left and right just isn't realistic. Manga tends to over exaggerate personalities, but marcille feels perfectly realistic, on top of being a cute elf.

>>43979547

This is it.

Bakemono = monster/ghost
Gatari = stories

It involves a bunch of weird shit and loli ghost girl molestation scenes but it's pretty good.

>>43992630
GG already won

>>43991101
Educate yourself. Seriously. You seem intelligent, you are just incredibly misinformed.

>>43994849
It's pasta, ignore it.

>>43995962
>a lot of believers - probably the majority - still take the literal view
That is actually a fairly new concept. In the first world it's prevalent mostly in America.

>>43996195
It's not, actually.

It returned to prominence after going 'out of fashion' amidst the educated and the clergy for a long time, but we have a lot of historical basis to believe that the oldest forms of these texts were meant to be taken literally.

The fact that interpretation sprung up in the the beginnings of the Catholic church and persisted to make it one of the most important establishments in regards to learning and progress for the next several hundred years is a very good thing. But this rich background of interpretive text is something that we've built up over time, and, you have to remember, something that was restricted to the social classes that 1. had the literacy needed to debate such things and 2. had the time needed to debate such things. It only began to become prevalent throughout society once literacy began to become a thing, and there were elements that fought back against what they saw as a sudden influx of subversive thinking. This is partly why Protestantism was so meteoric in its rise to prominence - it distanced itself from a lot the ideas that had come about through interpretation.

The people that would go on to form the Puritan base for the USA were indeed some of those people.

>>43993592
Offer to uplift them.

If humans uplift them, they will have a second class servant citizens, plus we take a portion of their female population.
If they refuse they will be left alone, but we take a portion of their female population.

>>43995862
>Posting SJWs
>Posting Tumblrhumour

It always so easy to tell who is new to /tg/

>>43992986
>light brown to snow white.
I wouldn't mind several all along that spectrum. But if I only get one, make mine a pale, fair skinned elf.

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>>43992986
Light Brown/Tanned preferably with a fairly light haircolour.

>>43992986
Snow white elf objectively superior

IN MY SETTING.

ELVES ARE HUMANS BRED FOR WAAAAAAR.

And for love.

>>43996364
/tg/ is tumblr as fuck, though.

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>>43992986
Doesn't matter, as long as I can dress them up in nice suits/dresses

>>43997223
You're thinking of /co/.

>>43970123
why do you keep using this image of the demon lord as a generic elf reaction image

WHY

she's a loli all powerful demon not an elf

I'm being triggered here

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>>43997223
Here is your reply and now back to reddit with you.

>>43991130
meh, an interesting suggestion but it doesn't address the fact that even average modern pussified human males can beat down pretty masculine females quite handily. In fact even larger females would be easy to take down simply because of the strength/aggression density gifted to Yers, neanderthal or not. I think a neanderthal male would barely see a difference between a masculine and feminine female in terms of ease, save for the fact that the feminine female made more babies and passed on her hyperestrogenization more frequently.

I wouldn't discount what you say completely because it does make some sense, submissiveness correlating with other secondary feminine attributes that also reflect fertility. but I think that the 'outbred, outsmarted' theory is probably more contributory. The homo sapien brain is not something to be trifled with.

>>43997271
Nah, /tg/ is right behind /co/ in terms of tumblr faggotry
>>43997694
>im-fucking-plying
I hate how tumblrtastic /tg/, but I still recognize faggotry for what it is

>>43991130
Then why do I prefer buff lolis? What are my genes telling me, Mr. Gene Whisperer?

>>43998192
>>43997694
honestly, at this point, I'm so tired of the petty tribalism I welcome reddit and tumblr.
Come to me, internet. End my suffering.

>>43998210
You are the reason this board sucks

>>43998253
I would argue that people going around acting like everything is shit and being a constant downer on literally every topic would be worse.
Though, the board doesn't even suck in the first place. Otherwise you wouldn't be grumpy about this or that group ruining it for you. s'actually pretty nice here.

>>43998299
Sounds exactly like what a tumblrina would say

>>43998207
you're a genetic dead end? that's what gays/lesbians/asexuals are. not everyone is genetically destined to procreate.

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>>43998318
>buff lolis
>the primest of specimens right at breeding age
>a genetic dead end
No anon, he's an ubermensch and his genes are screaming at him to find the only creature capable of bearing such divine genes

He's one of the chosen ones, anon.

>>43998343
>the primest of specimens right at breeding age
I thought loli meant prepubescent. they certainly can't nurse, that's for sure...

>>43971301
Literally a side plot of The Riftwar Saga by Raymond E Feist .

Though the old masters weren't humans, but instead some mary sue super dragon elves.

>>43998375
it really depends where you are from.
In australia, a loli is anything under a C-cup, even if it's a 40 year old 10 foot tall professional hag basketballer.

>>43998207
>>43998343
Probably because the pedo gene is expressing itself in concert with the gay gene.

really depends on how buff we're talking about here. Either way you're a sick fuck, seek help.

>>43972345
Every time I see this I want to rewatch Record of Lodoss War.

Man I didn't even like it the first time around.

>>43998395

This guy is right. We even have laws in place that state nobody with an A-cup can feature in pornographic material.

>>43992649
I think the creationist's problem with evolution is more about the Original Sin. The fact that our ancestors Adam and Eve fucked up big, so the big G cursed us with all this hardships of life (death, labor, sufferring etc) and kicked them out of heaven. If evolution and the scientific origins of earth are taken into account, it means that humanity isn't the cause of sind and pain and death, that we didn't unleash it, god did. Under this extremely literal interpretation of Genesis, it basically means that the rest of the bible is a big pile of lies if creationism is wrong.

>>43985602
>>43985703
>>43985803
If the dragon needs to fish for compliments from a human she must have really low self-esteem to lower herself to that level.

>>43998395
>>43998457
wow it's like you guys even shitpost in your law books. I bet the guy who penned that in was laughing his head off.

>>43995863
Poe's Law man.

>>43998457
Just googled it and it's true. That's mad. I see you've also banned female ejaculation which the conservatives banned here in the UK not too long ago. We probably aren't far behind on the breast banning.

>>43998517
So basically, they believe that there are two options
1) God has a fucked up sense of right and wrong. (All of you are suffering because your ancestors ate an apple, which i forbid)
2) God put the bad stuff into life for the lulz /to test humanity .

And they consider Option 1 better than Option 2.

>>43998517
>If creationism is wrong then original sin is wrong then the whole bible is wrong
I don't see why you need to shoe horn the original sin into it. If creationism is wrong then the whole bible is wrong, no need for the intermediary of original sin.

>>43998632
Because Genesis can be interpreted subjectively. Original Sin cannot, since it's kinda of a pretty big deal in both new and Old Testament.

>>43994999
Damn it now I want elves just to be rednecks who get pissed that people are cutting down their forests because it reduces the area the deer they like to hunt can live in

>>43998666

Original Sin doesn’t make any sense anyway.

Say you're God. You're omniscient. You create humans and set them a test, knowing they will fail because you made them. Then you get mad and punish them for millenia because of their failure.

That's like buying a cat and then beating it because it doesn't like to play fetch.

>>43971607
Are you saying that humanity is literally a meme race? That bored gods spend their time Humanposting on various worlds, and that the owner of the universe had to replace all instances of humans with Japanese people in order to stop the meme'ing?

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>>43997223
From someone who still browses tumblr sometimes, no. Tumblr would never get mad about women being in the military, and they'd get mad about the kind of armor they're wearing for what it would say about the woman more than if it's actually physically protective. Tumblr would share art about 40k, but never really want to deeply discuss it, even in the shambling and angry way that /tg/ does it. Tumblr likes to roleplay, but they're bad at it, if they'd ever talk about playing TTRPGs it's to share something vaguely funny (and carefully understandable out of context) more than look into the rules or tell a big story. Fa/tg/uys are either forced to roll with the punches or get mad in response - people on tumblr would more likely cry and complain, and just wouldn't be able to handle anyone disagreeing with them in the worst way.

And, most importantly, /tg/ has a much better layout. Fuck tumblr and how it splits everything into at least three images of amazingly short, choppy gifs that only will ever look good on someone's dashboard and you can't even properly take a screenshot off so you can share it anywhere or anyway that's not reblogging it on tumblr.

I mean, I can't say if the boogeyman is real or not, but I'm not honestly sure that anyone from over there would want to come here. The only people I've seen express dissatisfaction with tumblr have been artists who feel the place has become too inanely critical (though admittedly, even tumblr will laugh at its own stupidity. It's not all bad). I think at best they'd prefer to get the funny stuff handed to them through an imgur link like half of reddit.

>>43998448
I've honestly never seen it. I've heard good things about it, but I'm not sure if it's worth sitting down and watching if I'm just there for the cute girls.

>>43970123
This is a fact in my homebrew setting, and the elves still have a casual disdain for the short lived, "childish" humans. They also don't care for the lesser gods either, one of which, the love and friendship God, has her avatar walk casually around their capital trying to get them to be more friendly. They mostly ask her to quiet down, and leave the city.

>>43970123

Humanity fuck yeah is cancer and this thread is cancer, delete this

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>>43999728

The only faggots here are people like you who encourage this circlejerk shit because you're either physically or emotionally underage and can only get your jollies out of immature shitting all over a fantasy race because you have a raging inferiority complex towards them

>>43999743
Not even him. But you are butthurt. kek.

>>43999743
The people who can't stand the idea that humans are better are the ones with inferiority complexes, which they feel compelled to project onto everyone else.

>>43998632

>>43999005

Original sin was more or less decided upon by early church fathers as the reason why Christ had to die on the cross. Remember, the doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of redemptive salvation aren't explicitly in the texts. They're dogmas that were finalized by councils and synods. (And most translations of the texts are massaged to reflect these decisions.)

Regardless, all modern Christianity (even "scripture-only" flavors of Protestant Fundamentalism) is based on this foundation: God made the world not wanting to to fall but knowing that it would; He gave the OT Law to the chosen people as kind of a troll tactic, to demonstrate for the lulz that humans aren't capable of not sinning; and Christ's sacrifice on the cross (which is supposed to stand in for and replace the various animal sacrifices in Jewish law, as the Ultimate atonement) is the only possible way to atone for the Original Sin of Adam and Eve.

That's why even the most liberal churches and those most willing to interpret scripture still require the existence of Adam and Eve. To take the Catholic Church as an example, the Catechism accepts evolution as scientific fact but still requires belief in a pair of "original parents" who were the first two humans. Even though that's genetically impossible (evolution operates on breeding populations as a whole, not individual organisms), the church still requires this belief because without a pair of original parents who intentionally committed Original Sin, there was no need whatsoever for Jesus, and the whole doctrine of salvation (and with it, the need for the Church and its sacraments) comes crumbling down.

>>43999783

Yes, I am pissed that this stale meme has been perpetuated years longer than it should have been, long after everyone involved in its original conception has grown up and moved on because it was only ever a briefly entertaining idea.

>>43999787

That's complete horseshit. You sound like you're from /b/. Hell, both of you do. There's nothing of meaning or worth in the idea that humans are superior to everything else in a fantasy setting because it's a fantasy, not reality, the only reasons humanity is superior is because the person who writes it sets them up to be. These threads are all about dumb shit like:

>>43971322
>>43971216

Which is bad anime tier and cringe inducing. All you fuckers want to see is the complete emotional devastation of an entire other hypothetical species for reasons that you contrived, completely disregarding the fact that you designed the elves intentionally to break down at the mere idea that they are not inherently superior at all things than another species, which is probably the dumbest shit ever

>>43998582
Please tell me that Australia hasn't banned facesitting like UK did?

>>43999959
>the only reasons [Anything at all] is because the person who writes it sets them up to be.
This is true of literally everything in a fantasy setting.
Stop acting like an Elf who is breaking down at the idea that you aren't inherently superior at all things. You aren't. Even if you're an otherkin, you are still human and will always be human, no matter how much you sharpen your ears.

>>43999959
>I'M ANGRY
>ANGRY AT ELF MEMES
lmfao get over urself

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mfw this thread

>>43998666
>Because Genesis can be interpreted subjectively. Original Sin cannot
There is nothing subjective about "god made you in 6 days from clay"

>>44003535
strictly speaking, in the original language of genesis the word used for day was also the same word used for "age" so that is at least one thing of you feel like you want a non-standard translation

>>44003886
its still god making us from clay, not making us from apes

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>>43971532
Delicious

>>43982986
Except that when people talk to one another in person (or anytime while not anonymous) they have an image. Some feel the need to protect their image more strongly than others but every person without mental health issues feels it to some degree. The preface you used is for the clarification of your image to other people, which in most social settings is fine. However, here where that image isn't known and cannot be preserved the only function the preface serves is to imfom us that you have a distaste for anime.

Also a lot of people here overthink things.

>I just think the medium is melodramatic, poorly written garbage
That's just silly. You can't possibly fairly judge an entire medium and dismiss the entire thing as poorly written and garbage.
It's like saying you don't like sandwiches, I mean sure you might not like ham on rye but there's literally tens of thousands more sandwiches out there that taste nothing alike.

>>44004337
Aww his Dog Days