>>44369059
You don't. All one person needs to do is pretend to be power man and... boom.
They're the best.

If there were a set list of ancient heroes and by donning armor made to resemble the armor of the ancient heroes you could use a fraction of their power...
Well that's basically a refluffed cleric actually who wears their divine symbol. Still more workable.

>>44369096
Good thing Power Man doesn't exist.

>>44369059
The costume confers power equal to its resemblance to the source material.
Still not that balanced, but it's better.

>>44369125
>>44369096
>Not having power be regulated by a mysterious force so one guy doesn't get a shit-ton of power.

I think infinicon does this. You balance it by making the power proportional to how recognizable that character is divided by the number of people cosplaying that character.

>>44369695
Wait couldn't one make one's self more powerful by killing their fellow cosplayers ala the One?

>>44369059
Easy: The second they suffer any sort of clothing damage the power either deteriorates or fizzles out completely.

Power is directly related to quality of the costume, as well as fidelity to the source material. A bunch of guys with cardboard boxes with 'Gundam' written on it would be standard mooks. Also, any natural strength that the costume might grant, like if someone made an actual power armor, is exponential.

Is this going to be a secret battle kind of thing, or is it commonly known and utilized?

>>44369059
I once played a game of Savage Worlds(not sure if it was a preset module or not) where the cosplayers only gained a single power that whatever they were costumed as had. So the guy dressed as Darth Vader got a lightsaber, but no force powers, etc.

what is Unknown Armies ?

Personamancers get magic by being as close as possible to the person they cosplay as and their spells are being able to do things people think that person could do.
So if you cast John Kennedy you will be able to get all the chicks and survive one bullet wound.
Same would go for cosplaying closer and better your costume is better you can do stuff that character could and more obscure powers the better it gets.
So shit tier DIO cosplayer would be able to drop a steamroller while a best one could survive death by taking over bodies.

>>44369059
You've got a chink in your cyber-armor there.

>>44369699
>Chooses deathnote as power
>As does every other 12 year old or gothic fat bitch in the world
>Writes name in book
>They suffer a slight tickling sensation

It runs on Narrativium.
Anyone trying to wreck other people's shit is now a "villain", and are doomed to defeat after the stakes are raised enough and there's proper dramatic tension. Even if they beat a "hero", they can't kill them, just walk towards them slowly with a weapon drawn so they have time to catch their breath and suddenly leap up and kill the "villain"

>>44369059
It should depend on two factors.
>How 'in-character' the cosplayer is, basically if they're thinking they're actually that character they have much higher powerlevel than the fat guy who dresses as Sailor Moon or the moechick who cosplays just for the camwhoring
>How many other cosplayers cosplaying as that character in the vicinity. The more cosplayers dressing as the same character would 'dilute' the power, unless they cosplayed something that is usually numerous (Empire Stormtroopers, Super Sentai Rangers, etc), in which case their power grows larger instead.

What do you guys think?

>>44370298
A Raiden or tossers cosplaying as a god can still ruin some serious shit, but it's a good start.
Maybe it just flat out doesn't work with gods?

>>44370298
>unless they cosplayed something that is usually numerous (Empire Stormtroopers, Super Sentai Rangers, etc), in which case their power grows larger instead
>501st Legion become rulers of the world by gathering in large enough groups to become so precise

>>44370420
I'd play that. Sad I only have Shadowrun books.

>>44370387
>muscleman with genius-tier IQ, martial arts training, exceptional endurance, perfect vision, and an acute alergy cosplays as Superman, his idol and who he has studied since he was a child

RIP?

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Santa cosplay means santa powers?
Like world travel?
Detect naughty/nice?
Reindeer companion?

What constitutes a power?

Deadpool for example do you just get the regen or do you get the full bag of super cancer and ballistics/explosives knowledge

>>44370461
Fuck it, just say that there is some abstract power that won't give you power if it is to much.
So if you cosplay as sups, it will tell you to go fuck yourself and change into something else if you want power.

>>44370514
Uh, Captain Marvel?

Black Atom?

Batman?

The Flash?

The Flash would be cheating, he kind of breaks reality with how fast he can run, and that is when he isn't supposed to be breaking reality by running as a focus.

>>44370543
I think the abstract power thing would throw most DC or Marvel characters out the window.

>>44370605
Wee bit dickish, because that would take out half the fun.
>>44370543
Maybe you don't get all their skills/power capability, because you either have to learn it or earn it.
Shit that is overpowered by nature like Superman, Emprah, Lady of Pain, or Demonbane wouldn't work at all because the abstract power doesn't want you to have that much power, or simply doesn't have that much laying around.

Of course, this is just one way to balance it.

>>44370713
Perhaps only the -original- interpretation of the character works?

Supes would be able to jump over tall buildings and lift vehicles and such, but he wouldn't be dragging strings of galaxies or whatever behind him on a chain.

You would have to remove characters that started as godlike beings, or actual gods of course. So while Emps is a no-go, a Primarch is fair game.

>>44370754
I guess that can work, but how would things like conventions go? Lots of cosplayers in one place probably wouldn't go well most of the time.
Perhaps it's a secret war thing going on, where only a select few of cosplayers can actually use the "abstract power" thing and things like comic-con is just a way to gather them in one place. A attempt to find as many as possible.

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>>44369123
wat

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>>44370822
One idea for that "secret war" thing that comes off the top of my mind is that either
A:Cosplayers are at war with other cosplayers, occasionally being hired by larger countries for some black ops. Seriously, who the fuck would accept a report that says pic related beat the shit out of a terrorist cell?
B:The more out of reality idea, is that characters that people cosplay as to much start to leak out into reality to ruin everyone's day.
Imagine a fat, neck-bearded man dressed a Naruto desperately trying fighting off a dragon while waiting for his storm trooper reinforcements.

>>44369123
God Man is in a webcomic

>>44370754
Maybe the cosplayer needs to get stronger to cosplay stronger beings?

Like, chubby landwhales couldn't cosplay Sakura, because they'd look like shit. The closer you are to your cosplay mentally and physically (and possibly spiritually), the stronger the power becomes.

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>>44369059
Good thing I already shaved my hair and cleaned the cape.

>>44369888
Narrativium means that a few of them absolutely must rise to become the ruler of a, not irrelevant, amount of space for a, not irrelevant, amount of time for their defeat to mean anything.

The villains MUST at some point win for the hero's eventual victory to be heroic. Putting down the guy who talked a big game but did nothing isn't heroic.

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>>44369059
>>44369695
Come to think of it, would staying in-character for a long time - on the order of years - have any permanent effects?

Two possible scenarios to consider.

1) A young adult who was born and raised in the city to act as a certain character, who grew up as that character for all intents and purposes. Maybe some sicko raised his daughter to be gif related and as far as she's ever known she's always been "Kongou." Would only the looks and/or personality stay if she left the con/city, or would at least some of her other abilities be an integral part of her?

2)Someone who originated outside the con/city, but has been there for about 18 years and constantly in-character for all that time. Let's say this one's a fringe case - the D&D/Pathfinder folks are pretty weird, how they figured out they could work within the rules and use Immersion to become their PC's. For as long as anyone can remember, there was never a regular guy with a worn character sheet - only a haughty sorceress with the blood of Air Elementals in her. If she then left, would she immediately or even eventually change back - or is some part of that life a permanent imprint?

>>44371462
How about you keep powers even when you leave the city, that way we can entertain the notion of cosplayers fighting military or military having to hire cosplayers.

>>44371579
That brings up an interesting conundrum - what do you do if you can become literally anyone or anything you want, but need to give up your time, your money, and your true identity for it to have any real meaning?

Would you give up your self for power? If not - can you gain this power and still remain true to yourself? What happens once the style of dress starts feeling right? When you notice how much taller or shorter you've gotten? When you take a shower only to see not a drop of hair dye go down the drain, then look in the mirror and notice your natural color isn't back?

What do you do when you start feeling like this persona is who you've really been all along? Are you really growing as a person - or have you been co-opted? Taken over, /possessed/ by someone else?

And was there ever really a "you" to replace?

>>44371619
Well that came out of nowhere, but it's interesting.
Giving up who you truly are for power, if the old you was really you at all to begin with.

Wait a minute, doesn't that sound allot like transgender shit?

>>44371652
just let it happen, this is magical fantasy land

>>44371652
>spoiler

Oh, there'd be plenty of folks seeking that sort of result. If anything, it'd be an easier solution than surgery.

If you can go someplace on a magical journey to become anything, and it only works if you really commit to it - wouldn't that weed out the attention-seekers from those who truly feel as if they wear a skin not their own? Not just them, though.

Tired of being a coward? Become an Imperial Guardsman! Tired of being poor? Put on that Monopoly Man suit and really get into the spirit! Tired of your lack of willpower? Put on that jacket and those goggles, because it's Simon time!

The con is the concept of "fake it until you make it" given both physical manifestation and supernatural power.

>>44371652
More like the philosophy of "Wear a mask for to long and that mask becomes you." really.
>>44371675
Also this.

>>44371686
In fact, why not take it one step further? The moment you take that first step, the Immersion is helping you along.

It sees you dressed up as that character, acting like them, and it "knows" you want to be them. So it gives you subtle nudges in just the right places - unless you'd become powerful enough that you'd threaten the others too much.

The Immersion itself is writing one big crossover fanfiction, and it wants people to take part - and as far as it can tell, you're a volunteer. As time passes, you find it easier and easier to get into character - even if you don't look exactly like them, you'll answer instinctively to that name.

The mask isn't just becoming you through sheer overuse. It WANTS to become you.

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Well if we're getting philosophical all of sudden, then what is reality? Who's to say that the very world around the characters in infinicon is even the true reality at all, and that the characters we become is not only our true selves, but everything else is just a shadow. Like Plato's cave, nothing around us is the world that we live in at all. That there is even more outside of our "cave" and that all of reality we see before us is a "cave".

>>44371794
I like the idea of "by dressing up as the character, you're effectively letting them take over your body" a bit better than "nothing is real," but that's just me.

>>44371794
>>44371706
>>44371686

Reading through this thread made me think of the concept of mantling from the Elder Scrolls games.

>>44372572
"Walk like them until they have to walk like you."

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>>44371103
>>44371060

>>44369059
Every Joker must hunt down all other Jokers until there is only one remaining. Obviously, the one that can survive being murdered by the Joker a million times is the real one.

Alternatively:
The universe collapses on an atomic level as everyone dresses up as Chewbacca.

Shame crossplay of males dressing up as female characters is so rare compared to the opposite. As it is, a bunch of girls will find themselves turning into men as the magic does not allow dramatic reinterpretations of a character. All those girl-Arthases will become regular male Arthases.

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>>44369059
I fucking love when these threads show up because I love the philsophical bullshit interspersed with the fetishistic shitbull.

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What happens if you hypnotize someone into being a character and then dress them up? Could you transform them into something permanently?

>>44375503
I'm with you, though the sad thing is that at some point the actual philosophical bantering and setting building gets eclipsed by stuff like >>44375582.
In order to revitalize the thread: How do you think society would be affected by the laws of physics suddenly working like in >>44371675? That is, by attempting to look like a fictional character recognized by more than a certain amount of people (because we need a power limiter, and emotional energy/the power of archetypes seems as good a power source as any), you can slowly nudge your way towards being that character at the cost of your own appearance and personality. It's not possible to do it with self-invented characters unless they've become famous, real people are off-limits unless they're both long deceased and so fictionalized they're more fictional characters than anything, and only small variations in appearance and personality are possible. It's possible to stop halfway and keep it that way for as long as possible by not dressing and acting like the character, but it's not possible to backtrack.
I know this is going to be a fetish-fest, but we can at least try to save the thread from a row of pointless bumps. This is honestly a concept that doesn't get explored enough, perhaps exactly because people are afraid it will turn into pure masturbation fuel.

>>44369059
I'd shave my head to get Saitama's powers, he'll yes.

>>44375937
Honestly, I'd think there'd be a lot more regulation on the creation and release of fiction in mass media. Just think about it; if you can become a character by truly walking their path, wouldn't you, as the governing body, seek to influence things that there wouldn't be new fictional worlds with megapowerful asshole evil bastards, if only to make your governing body stay stable?

It wouldn't work but it'd be something worth thinking about.

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>>44376035
Then the abstract power tells you to go fuck yourself and change into something else before you can get power.

>>44376035
100 push ups
100 sit ups
100 kilometers a day (or was it miles?)

>>44369352
>people dressed as the same character divide that characters power between them
>people dressed as original character do not steal get no power
>obscure characters who nobody cosplays as are the strongest, until the killing starts

>>44376565
It was only 10 kilometers a day, not a hundred.

>>44375937
>it's not possible to do it with self-invented characters

Although, I can see a way around that. Character sheets. Dice. Race. Class. Alignment. Wealth By Level.

It takes certain rituals and has a lot of chances to go wrong, so it's a lot harder and requires more dedication - but having a system within which to define both personality and abilities, allowing the con itself to serve as the DM and the rest of your party - nay, the rest of the con - to serve as your "audience," could theoretically do it.

>>44369123
I think the point of cosplay is that you dress up as someone who doesn't exist.

>>44376733
What about writers making new characters?
All characters had to be made at some point.

>>44376786
As the character becomes more well-known, cosplayers playing them will grow stronger - sometimes even to mirror their own growth in power during their series.

Beyond even that, writers /are/ known for occasionally showing up to official events in costume.

The reason I brought up D&D and PF as ways to bring a self-invented character to life is that the character, regardless of identity, is built on a well-known and well-popularized system. When you cast Magic Missile, everyone knows "he's a D&D Wizard!" It's obviously a lot more prone to failure - one bad roll on a save can leave you dead or Dominated for /real/. But it can still draw on the Immersion through the Ritual of the System.

>>44370952
That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life.
Then again, the idea itself is rather crazy, but that's just making shit even crazier.
Totally going to steal that for a campaign.

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>>44375582

No because their Shadow would be loosed and slowly change them back it would begin with flickering black marsk at the edge of their vision, making them twist in fright and shock and constantly feel there was someone always present and watching them whenever they were alone. Slowly the shadow would whisper their truths back into their awareness, unbinding and breaking the hypnotism until the hypnotised person's true light was unleashed to burn down the person who did this to them

>>44377257
In other words, they need to accept the change by themselves or it won't work.

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>>44375582
HYPNOSIS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

fuck i hate you people

I hate you so much

die and remove your filth from this world!

>>44377734
Did your wife kick you in the sack this morning?

>>44377753
It'd be the first time in years she's touched down there, frigid bitch.

No its just...I fucking despise people who are that wrong about hypnosis. Hypnosis can't just....make a person think they're someone else completely, especially not in the implied amount of time from >>44375582! It would take the hypnotized subject being a willing and active participant (which no ethical or practical hypnotist would allow as that clearly shows underlying issues that hypnotizing them to have a different personality would only exacerbate) and months to years of effort to accomplish.

And what's more, with the idea this thread is running with, that makes the posited post >>44375582 completely fucking pointless! If the subject is so fucking willing to get hypnotized to think they ARE they character, why not take advantage of whatever is causing people to become characters in the first place? It'd be less fucking effort!

>>44377850
Well not unless someone cosplays as Ragyo or someone else who's stupidly powerful at mind control/rewrite.

>>44369059
the quality of the cosplay both in look, thoughts and acts is what dictate the quality of the powers.

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>>44377877
Even so, the whole concept this thread seems to be running with is that the subject has to be a WILLING and ACTIVE participant in order to be transformed. Being forced, either through incredibly improbably amounts of hypnotic effort or someone with mind control powers, more or less removes both of those aspects, no?

>>44369059
Do it like Cosplay Pikachu.

You gain one theme attack or power from the cosplay.

In example, luchador pikachu got powerslam or body slam or some other fighting type attack, otherwise it's pikachu attacks.

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>>44376861
>As the character becomes more well known.
Does this mean I can cosplay as coldsteel?

>>44369820
Man, all you need is a time machine to 2006 and that joke is golden.

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>>44378079
Wrong image

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>Cosplay as a knight of the cross.
>use the power of the one true Lord to cleave and smite evil.
>???
>prophet

This scenario reminds me greatly of the Halloween episode from season two of Buffy: the Vampire Slayer.

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>>44378142
Feel free to draw on the meme for Immersion power as you see fit - but as Coldsteel is a parodic meme, to become him would likely be a fate worse than death.

Same as becoming Mr. Bones. Do it for long enough and the Ride might manifest within the Con - but you're trapped forever, just like anyone who gets on the ride.

Truth be told, if you went as Cardboard Box Gundam, you actually could truly become it - but only by tapping into the MEME, rather than the idea of a real Gundam. And meme-cosplayers tend to have the worst fates.

>>44378215
>MEMES JACK.jpg

>>44378246
Monsoon would probably figure out exactly how the place works in less than a day, even without any real prompting or briefing on it. After all, if the character has to be well-known. If an idea must spread to have power - isn't that a meme in his sense, rather than ours?

>>44378414
I guess, good thing Monsoon doesn't exist and it's just people cosplaying as that character.
Unless the character can become a voice in the back of your head, like a mask speaking to urge you to keep it on.

>>44378468
>spoiler

Well, what did you think was happening?

I can make you smarter. Stronger. Faster. Beautiful.

All you have to do is let me in.

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>>44378509
That gives me ideas for certain characters.
Perhaps with characters like say Sindri, not only are you being tempted by Sindri, but you are also being tempted by "other" voices to put on the mask.
Perhaps with Shadowrun dragons if that's possible they already have several long term goals for when they gain control of you, or even if they gain control.
Or with characters like Ragyo, seducing you to become her then stabbing you in the back.

There's allot of things you can do, because there is so many different characters. Hell, some of these characters would be better at getting you to keep the "mask" on than others, making certain "mask" safer than others.

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>>44378647
Well if we're playing that card, why not have some mask be conflicted about effectively "kicking some out" of their body so that they may have a body?
And, of course, what if a mask regretted becoming someone after it was far to late to go back? Guilt falling upon the heads of characters because they had to do something horrible so that they may go on.

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I don't give a shit what's what.
All I know is that I won.

>>44376704
Don't forget the 100 squats.

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>>44377655

Yeah, their Psyche rejects it with their Shadow's help.

>>44377753

Well yes, but only because I hypnotised her into doing it.

>>44378926
keep telling yourself that guy who is not >>44377734

>>44378647
In other words, what you are suggesting is that some characters' ego try to override the person wearing the costume's ego? Become more than just a mask? Interesting thought but it seems a little cliche? idfk

>>44378953
I know it's cliche, but it adds in the gameplay mechanic of having to be REALLY careful which costume you use; some costumes are much more dangerous than other costumes, not because of power, but because of person.
Sorry if my grammar was horrible in advance.

As much effort needs to be put into crafting the costume as it would take to obtain the levels of skills the costume grants.

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>>44378986
Its fine don't worry about it
ehhh, I'm not thinking of it as a game so much as a setting. Hell, I'm thinking of it more as a loosely related series of stories at this point. And both is fine, I suppose? Yeah prolly.

Honestly, I guess I'm just a sucker for the story where someone tries to be someone else only for that someone else to sucker that someone to give themselves up to the someone else.

>>44379129
Well why not use the setting for a game? Story and gameplay can go hand in hand in allot of cases.
Besides, who doesn't want to play a game where you play as cosplayers fighting terrorist? Or just people you don't like?

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>>44378079
>>44378142

Fucking christ, in Unknown Armies terms the answer would be yes.

Oh jesus I can even see this having a core fucking paradox - to gain power you must be both recognisably yourself and noticably a specific character, for the power is found in being both subsumed inside a recognisable character and being recognised as a distinct person who has adopted that character's appearrance.

So the Taboo would be being out of costume or having your face entirely covered beyond fairly light makeup or cosmetic changes.

And here's the kicker: because most clowns adopt a clown outfit that is based on older and fairly famous clowns, like Bozo, there's a clear Adept School of bozo clowns with a longer than usualy history for adepts. and David Bowie was literally a long thin Duke back in his Pierrot period

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>>44379205
Mainly because I don't want to focus on the game aspects of it so much as the trial and tribulations of the one guy who got themselves in too deep with a character-mask that seems to be getting more and more control over 'em day after day.

>see related pic example

>>44378647
>Implying you don't want to be bodysnatched by rainbow milf.

>>44369059
Anyways in terms of mechanics on this, just use the Elan rules from Anima. People who synchronize with a character sufficiently can do tricks the character is known for but for most there's a limit on how synchronized they can get as well as a limit on how many people can surpass the typical half-n-half limit.

(Because I'm too fucking lazy, go look for Elan in the Anima: Beyond Fantasy book, page 261)

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>>44380103
here have the page in question

>>44369123
Unlike all those other superheroes.

Dumbass.

>>4437864
Maybe the closer a character's mentality is to a "normal person's," the easier it is to resist them.

>>44378739
This also works. I mean - do you really think Luffy is gonna want to kill someone so he can enter our world? That's just now how he does things. This does open up another option - if you balance "yourself" and "your cosplay" juuust right - you might be able to get the character as a "spirit guide" of sorts.

If you're a D&D player trying to mantle your Wizard, you might apply a similar process to create your Familiar - talk to a mundane animal fitting the description on your character sheet long enough, and it might actually awaken - but don't do it for so long that the "Familiar" starts gaining its own Immersion.

Another thing to consider? Team Bonuses.

Let's say you've got five girls dressed as the Inner Senshi from Sailor Moon. One of them might be more in-character than the others - but being in a team like that makes it easier for the others to get pulled in.

If you've got one Imperial Guardsman, he'll become more immersed at a rate determined by his costume - but if you've got 50 of them, you might start seeing the weaker costumes changing. Warping. Reinforcing themselves as the ones that have truly BECOME Guardsmen pull the others along.

Characters who "belong" together, in essence, reinforce each other.

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You know, they say you can't create something without putting a little of yourself into it.

So what happens when the author of a popular work decides to cosplay a character from that work?

>>44381701
Delete that.

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>>44381701
>tulpas

Y O U F O O L

Y O U H A V E O N L Y D O O M E D Y O U R S E L F

>>44369059
>How do you explain cosplayers not ruining everyone else's shit
They gain the powers but not the personalities of the people they cosplay as. Therefore all that is needed to keep them in check is
>infighting due to the need to settle autistic "who beats who" arguments
>high suicide rate due to the fact that they are still ridiculed for being 30 year old basement dwelling virgins with superpowers that can't get them a job
>literally drop everything the moment an attractive woman asks them for a favor, resulting in an inability to resolve almost any situation where females are present.

>>44381800
>Neckbeard meme.
So dank.

>>44381800
Realistically speaking, cosplayers would become more valuable in society if they start getting powers based around who they are cosplaying as.
Not to mention it would become more popular, because who doesn't want to be a badass?

However, if we are using the rules discussed in this thread already then chances are it would be treated somewhat like drugs, but so powerful that you have to live with them. People giving advice and guidance to resist the temptations and trickery of the voices that you would gain from the costumes.

So it would be popular, then become regulated up to the point where it can very easily cause a civil war if not handled right. Military using them for battles, construction companies using people as a cheaper alt to certain construction vehicles, or even gangs using them to start rebellions.

In other words, piss off with your shitposting.

>>44369059
Cosplayers draw power from their costume based on the power of the subject character multiplied by that character's popularity, divided by the number of other cosplayers portraying that character, and proportional to the quality and accuracy of their cosplay.

Thus, popular overpowered characters will receive only fractional powers, obscure or OC works will yield little benifit, low-effort costumes will receive proportionally weak powers, and cosplayers who fail to get into character will be diminished appropriately.

The only way one could gain the full power of a work is to completely embrace the appearance and motivations of a well-known but unpopular character. Anyone who wants to obtain the full power of Dr. Manhattan would be required to assuming a nihilistic mindset, functionally neutering any ambitions of grandeur.

>>44382058
>Military usage from cosplayers.
That sounds silly as fuck anon.
On the other hand, infinicon can very easily become a country if it gets enough people to form a military.
Imagine it, just a entire country of cosplayers.

>>44382694
It would be either a paradise or a nightmare.

Possibly both.

Sign me up.

>>44383291
Well why not both? Some parts of the country are great to live in while other parts are sometimes literally a hellhole. As in, some Diablo cosplayer opened a portal to hell and The Immersion decided keeping it around was a good way to raise the stakes.

>>44382694
Japan?

>>44383699
>Japan was the first country to fall to the cosplayers, due to the sheer number of them.
Makes sense.

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>>44378647
>>44378739
>Or with characters like Ragyo, seducing you to become her then stabbing you in the back
>Begins screaming forever inside my own head

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>>44383775
>Cultist cosplayers everywhere
>The world is infested with them

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>>44383808
>>44383775
I can't tell if this is good or bad

I'll just cosplay as some character from a japanese Light Novel.

Those "died and get reborn with near infinite power" settings. So many of them, and aren't that huge in popularity, so I'd probably not have to share my powers with too many.

That, or some background character from DBZ.
Those that actually have ridiculous amounts of power but are just fodder for Goku.

>>44383775
>If a mask becomes you, not only are you having your body torn from you, you also become a voice in your own head. Your "soul" forever looking out your eyes as you are controlled by a will that is not your own.

>>44369059
You don't, on both counts. This is just a bad idea all around that you can't turn into a game without players fucking it up one way or another.

>>44383860
Read the thread anon, there are good ideas bubbling about.

>>44383838
>>44378647
My mind is screaming but my penis is cheering.

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this was done as fiction in the Xanadu setup.
http://shifti.org/wiki/Category:Xanadu
several stories which go over the pluses, minuses, horrors, and so on.

>>44383838
And then, one day, the mask you once wore takes the mask that was one you off forever.

>>44384176
How does that work with a character you make, like the aforementioned d20 mantle? It seems like it'd be slower but safer, or something?

>>44384254
A character you make would still have a will of it's own anon. It can still "throw you away".
No means of cosplay is safe Gee what a weird sentence.

>>44383898
I have been, and yes they are good ideas in theory. The problem is that players being players will almost inevitably take issue with the game master over how exactly one of their cosplays should mechanically work, or how somebody's else's cosplay should work.

>>44384254
Slower and a lot harder to pull off, but yeah. Essentially, you have to live by D&D rules to do it. Imagine giving control over whether anything you do succeeds to a random number generator (the con itself acts as the DM).

Now, look at class restrictions. A Monk needs to be Lawful, a Bard or Barbarian needs to be NOT Lawful, a Paladin needs to be Lawful Good (in most editions), a Blackguard/Antipaladin needs to be Chaotic Evil, a Cleric has to have an alignment matching or within one step of their deity's and must actually worship that deity, a Druid can't wear metal armor or use metal weapons (in Pathfinder), things like that.

If you're a 3.5 Sorcerer, you've got dragon blood in you - but if you're a Pathfinder Sorcerer, who KNOWS what's in there unless they've seen your Character Sheet?

>>44384254
Well, seeing as you're using d20, you obviously don't roleplay but rollplay, so I suppose it'd be 'you but better'. Or at least, what you think is 'better'. Its probably going to end up being a bigger douchebaggier version of 'you'.

>>44384302
That's why you discuss this shit with them beforehand and come to a agreement. If something comes up during a campaign then tell then "we'll talk about it later".

>>44384310
The character I'd probably go with is Chaotic Evil by necessity (class restrictions), so probably. What I meant was more like, since I imagine it would have to go piece-meal while you put the character together over the course of a campaign, the influence is less malignant, on account of being not as firm and settled as a character from a story already settled. It'd still change you, but just not as aggressively as maybe some other high-level choices would.

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>>44369800
>cosplays as Morgan Freeman
>Morgan Freeman is often regarded as what god would look like in this century and consider him an angel or an avatar of god
>you gain Abrahamic religion powers
>you have read using Morgan Freeman's angelic voice
>Titty Sprinkles

>>44376565
100 push ups
100 sit ups
100 squats
10 kilometers run
No heat in winter, no AC in summer
Full 3 meals a day, banana in morning is fine

That's how to become Saitama tier hero

>>44376583
>someone dresses up as ColdSteel
>all 4chan, reddit, DA, 9gag and other shit website users know about him
>cosplayer becomes Edge incarnate

>>44384439
>No heat in winter, no AC in summer
What geographical location are we talking? I can take 40C without difficulty, but anything under -10C would be problem.

>>44384467
Sad he's a parody, so becoming him would be a living hell.

>>44384528
In Saitama's case, I wouldn't be sure, since City Z is as far as my knowledge goes, not very detailed, but I'd say a tempered weather area with medium humidity

>>44384561
As ColdSteel, your power makes everyone around you queasy, crippled with self doubt and paranoid as well as wanting to listen to 9 inch nails and other shitty edgy music like Simple Plan and Paramore

You literally cause cringe and edge wherever you go

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>>44383828
Webm related.

>>44385237
Why couldn't that be a gif?

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Huh. So as a Jacket(Aubrey Mask) cosplayer, would I get the ability to always find guns, view the world from a top-down omniscient viewpoint, and be able to die over and over and over?

I've got that, an old as fuck Mugen costume that probably doesn't fit, and my TIE pilot uniform. But that won't get my a TIE fighter.

>>44385574
Because webms are the better of the two you faggot.

>>44385574
It probably was, and then someone turned it into a one second long webm because >>44385662

>>44385652
Nah, gameplay mechanics don't equal power.
You just become fast as shit and really good at killing.

>>44385702
Would I not at least get some ability from the Mask itself rather than just from the game? As Aubrey, always being able to find guns as opposed to someone like Tony who could beat a fucker to death in a few hits or Jake with his ability to kill people by throwing whatever at them.

>>44385733
Sure. That's a ability, rather than a gameplay mechanic.

Other than cosplays as totems and Highlandering that shit, the only other restriction I'd likely propose is that powers don't extend outside the con. (Leading to some "Infinicons" as noted above) Like any great act of magic or miracle-working, all good cons must come to an end as people run out spending money, food and energy. Once a con closes, the power of the cosplays starts to diminish.

>>44385922
That works great with Infinicons, but what would a country of Infinicon be like? How would their systems of government work? Hell we brainstormed everything else, might as well brainstorm that.

>>44385922
Assuming that's true - what happens if we have that working with the "you become the costume" idea the thread's been kicking around? If the character you're being possessed by doesn't want to grow weaker - or worse, leave you in control of your body again - how do they cope with the power fading? Do they try supplanting your "real life" with theirs?

Maybe that's a stealth disadvantage of playing a more mundane character - the less supernatural their abilities and the more human their mindset, the easier it is to stay in-character, even when the con ends. The easier it is for them to stay in control.

>>44386001


I assume to try and start an Infinicon, a con would need to set up logistics to keep itself going ad infinitum. If one could persuade a government to organize a con of that scale, you could end up with Cosplay Outer Heaven. It could then become a super advanced country (Though none of it's inherent tech or magic advances would work outside it's borders)

>>44386232
Why not have it work outside the borders once the majority of the people in those outside areas are cosplaying? For those who can't afford to move to the Infinicon, there'd still be regular cons out there - at first. But the Immersion has its ways of spreading. It WANTS to spread. It wants EVERYONE to become part of its massive crossover fanfic.

Our mundane reality BORES it, and it will no longer tolerate that. To that end, it will expand wherever it is called into the world.

It wants to help us not be bored. It wants to play with us so we can have fun.

>>44384581
Saitama Prefecture of Japan temps. The joke is that the whole world of OPM is the Saitama Prefecture.

>>44369059
Wasn't there some sort of video game with that premise?

>>44369059
we would have massive damage caused by 8 year old supermen

>>44369059

I wish womens vaginas opened up like that raiden mask

>>44388305
Really? The anime seemed to show everything happening in Australia. I assumed it was a joke about how all the animals in Australia are horrifying poisonous monsters.

>>44388615
Nope. The supercontinent the whole series setting is is shaped like the Saitama prefecture of Japan just blown up and out.

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>>44388517
>hinged vulva

NOOOOOOOO, That'd be catching pubes and other things all the time and they could clamp onto you by closing suddenly and you'd never escape!

>>44378647
>>44383775
>>44383838

Yesssssssssss

>>44369059
Simple. Power does not equal skill. You might be dressed up like the universe's best sharpshooter, but do you really know how to shoot that thing as well as they do?

>>44390449
Obviously. I am them after all.

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one time I became Dr. Manhattan. I tore apart the solar system atom by atom, particle by particle, studied the entirety of the solar system in a state of time you have never heard of, recombined everything and life went back to normal.

It only works if your final "power level" is less than a certain multiple of how strong you could get if you spent your entire life training to fight normally. That way, it would still give a large advantage, but every fight wouldn't boil down to Popeye vs. The Mask vs. Saitama vs. YHVH vs. Jackie Chan in a ladder factory.

>>44392269
But that's the point.

I'm leaning towards the idea that you can only unlock the full power of the character by fully becoming them, even mentally. This would mean you cease being "you" and become them.

Or every person cosplaying the same character are forced to merge into one.

>>44386934
So it's a bored chaos god of cosplay then?

>>44393454

Or a trickster deity of the style of old religions who just finds out world super boring. An even more powerful Loki if you will

>>44393454
I wouldn't call it a Chaos God, not quite - it's too benevolent for that, too... innocent.

It wants to help, it really does. It just doesn't realize that helping might not be the best idea. Imagine if you will, that at the age of 7 you were given the power to make the whole world never be boring again. Wouldn't you?

>>44393490
Or in other words, a colossal faggot who is doing the god equivalent of writing pretty good, but still sillier than Hideo Kojima writing fanfiction.

>>44393580

More like a little kid with divine powers

>>44393546

>>44369059
The power is based on the quality of the cosplay. The Raiden cosplay for instance is very nearly on point... so you'd be pretty close. But be a Saitama cosplayer in a shabby costume and be ready to be embarrassed when you can't even move the jaw of Hercule!

That is how you balance it.

>>44393906
>Someone gets a good powerman cosplay going.
RIP.

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>>44369059
It's been done.

>>44393930
Well if the costume was well made by the cosplayer (I'd think it's the cosplayer's will that goes into the creation of the costume, thus empowering the wearer) then they could be Saitama... but they NEED to nail it.

>>44393906
But the Saitama costume seems shabby to most people in universe. Not really a good example.

>>44394128
Depends.

Just throwing it together, without attention to detail and what-not and you'll get similar results. Taking care to sew it together, getting the shades of fabric just right... that's the key.

>>44394212
>a low-budget cosplay with a lot of effort or heart put in works wonders, but ingenuity can only get you but so far

>>44394368
I think you misunderstood what I said.

You work with crap material and spend no time at it and be prepared to be disappointed.

>>44394401
It's still imbalanced, because all you need is a good cosplay of a overpowered character, and you rape everything.

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>some absolute madman was dumb enough to dress up as that Serb with the accordion
>all he gets out of it is accordion skills

Isn't that pretty much Kill La Kill?

>>44396082
It fits the theme, so he gets the power to remove kebab for good.

>>44395353
>>44394401
Maybe there's a scaling minimum amount of effort that's required to gain any power from a character.
So stealing the actual Daredevil costume from the TV show would give you pretty much all his powers so long as it sorta fits- but you'd need to get your face surgically reconstructed and method-act as Saitama 24/7 to even get low-key "punch gud" powers.

>>44369059
All cosplayers are weebs, as such they all become little girls.

>>44369059
One thing that could be added is that certain characters have special needs and inhibitions. For instance:
>Someone cosplaying as a witch from the Strike Witches series would be unable to effectively use their powers without a striker.
>Someone cosplaying as a magical girl from the Puella Magi series would have a soul gem (as their functional weak point) and would have to hunt "witches" in order to prevent themselves from becoming one of them.

You have the weapons, but not the funds.
Cosplay as say, Iron Man and you would need to find a way to replenish energy and ammo.
You also don't gain their experience, assuming we go with "voice in head" idea that the thread has been poking, then they are more or less "backseat gaming".

>>44396276
Oh, he'd absolutely kill the Kebab Eating Contest in no time flat.

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It's good that infinicon is still remembered

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>>44398257
I just realized.
Some voices that come from the costumes would not only be more dangerous, but also hilarious.
Like a Spess Mehreen cosplayer trying to find a date while the voice of a spess wulf tries to give him dating advice.

>>44395353
>>44396701
You'd also have to be someone who actually is "in sync" with their character... So someone trying to be Armstrong from Full Metal Alchemist might need to be freaking ripped to unleash the full potential of their cosplay.

>In b4 no fatties allowed...

>>44398406
No fatties allowed.
Unless you cosplay as a fatty, then sure.

>>44398458
Touche'!

>>44398483
So many Blob cosplayers.
Which would obviously defeat the purpose of cosplaying.

>>44398305
>Cosplay as Billy from Billy and Mandy.
>Have to put up with his shit every day of the week.
A fate worse than death.

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>>44398406
>In b4 no fatties allowed...

>>44398522
Nobody wants to see that.

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>>44398533
that's why I have an uncensored version too. For visual terrorism purposes.

Then again I have a whole shit tier folder

>>44398406
Oh, but that wouldn't be fun! That'd be like saying that you can't cosplay an anime character (save for a limited repetoire) if you're black!

That's where the Immersion's active effect comes in. It wants you to have fun, to participate, so it'll make it easier.

As time goes on, you find anything that would be in-character to be easier to do, and anything out-of-character gets harder to do. If the character is cruel, it feels great to act on that, but showing mercy will actually hurt. If they're vegetarian but you liked bacon before? Well, you won't be able to stomach the stuff now.

>Losing your sense of self for super powers

Screw that I'm gonna cosplay as a character who's powers were pretty clearly defined but never got enough lore to develop a personality. Or just dress as Mandalore the Ultimate and conquer the convention.

>>44398736
Why not just take the risk going the long, painful, slow way? Make it to Level 20 as a Pathfinder Wizard? Then you still get to be "yourself but better" AND cast Wish/Temporal Stasis/Trap The Soul/Time Stop/insert-overpowered-spell-here!

>>44398781
Because it only works with well known characters, so somebody's deviant art OC is not nearly as strong as other characters.

>>44398812
See >>44376733 , >>44376786 , and >>44376861 for how it could work - in lieu of using a well-known character, you're using a well-known SYSTEM. It wouldn't work for, say, GURPS or FATE, but it would work with D&D because everyone knows about Fireball and Magic Missile. Reinforce it by carrying your character sheet at all times, wearing your robe and wizard hat, and living by D&D rules - and you could pull it off.

There's a reason it's mentioned as the "long slow way" and that's because it's bending the rules via the ritual of living your whole life as a campaign.

>>44398855
>everyone knows about Fireball and Magic Missile
yeah and everyone knows them differently

>>44398855
In that case couldn't you just dress and act like the most stereotypical grognard possible claiming to be a dm and get reality altering powers

>>44398878
Not /quite/ the ritual essentially has the Immersion ITSELF acting as your DM. That, and "sterotypical grognard" is difficult to tell from "fat guy in casual clothes holding a book," whereas "Paladin," "Barbarian," or "Wizard" are a lot easier to identify.

>>44398870
This is a stumbling block, yes. Edition wars brought to life would be a terror to behold.

Arguably, a 3.PF character would have the most success, as those are the most popular editions. An AD&D or 2e character would lose out due to not many of the con's attendees having been born when those were released, and a 4e or 5e character will suffer from the attempt due to 3.PF still looming large over TRPGdom.

Then comes the question of how you deal with the group who decided to go as zombies, or the guy with the really well-done costume of a Pokemon Blue cartridge. One's a non-specific but well-known type of being/character, the other's an item connected to a well-known franchise.

>>44398518
DESTROY US ALL DESTROY US ALL DESTROY US ALL

All of this prompts me to ask - how do spinoffs of a series work in terms of a character's abilities?

Let's say you're a Charmander, and since you still want to talk, you tie a pink bandana around your neck and you've got a Rescue Team badge from Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

What happens if you lose the badge and bandana? Do you become a normal Charmander (can only either say its name or make the cry from the games, can be caught in a Pokeball)? Do you stay the same /unless/ a Pokeball hits you?

What happens if you fight a Charmander that a Trainer had, but of the same level? Will you have the advantage since you don't need to take orders to use your moves?

What if someone from Pokemon Conquest or the Pokemon TCG videogame (yes, there was one) shows up?

>>44398987
>Zombies.
You become a zombie.
This has caused a outright zombie outbreak where cosplayer zombies (cosplayers who weren't cosplaying as zombies but got infected) have become very dangerous. Thus entire cities have fallen to their horde.

>Pokemon cartridge.
Well you don't get anything, not even a voice. It doesn't work with items.

>>44399468
>the costume works
>soon after, an actual cartridge is found
>the player character's sprite is replaced with you
>the save file invariably has your name
>the player can still decide if you're a boy or a girl, though
>also you no longer have any control of your life and don't even exist at any point when someone isn't playing the game
>this was a terrible idea

>>44399580
But the power of a game cartridge is to play a video game.

>>44401188
Exactly. You wanted to be the game? Now you are.

Not everything ends well.

>>44401220
So the immersion is Calypso now?

>>44401500
Not really - again, it's got good intentions, but a lot of bad things can happen without it meaning to.

The "child with divine powers" comparison comes up again - means well, but doesn't think about the consequences of its actions or doesn't even realize anything COULD go wrong.

>>44369059
The more powerful a character is, the more money/blood/magic etc needed to cosplay it properly.

>>44398522
That hallway/stairwell is super familiar. I wonder if I'm imagining it or if I've actually walked up those stairs.

>>44369059
This is a terrible premise. Every cosplayer I've ever met has been an insufferable little weeabo piece of shit.

>>44403796
> what are magic girls

>>44405082
as opposed to the average /tg/ guys who are just insufferable pieces of shit

>>44405128
Ya but the weeb makes all the difference. Apparently.

>>44399468

But if he dresses as Pokemon Cartride and then inserts himself into someone dressed as a gameboy...

>>44369059
You don't because it's fucking stupid.
All someone has to do is cosplay as someone who has cosplayed as everyone at the same time.

>>44405908
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>>44405908

But then all you gain is the power to cosplay as other things.

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>>44371060
>>44371103
>picking a character who's always bored
What good is power if you can't have any fun with it?

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>>44369123
> one of power man's accomplishments is beating the undertaker at wrestlemaina

but anon he does exist his name is BROCK LESNAR