>>45403412
inb4.....saltyanons

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“Kitakami, Ooi. You've shot your wad. Draw back towards the frigates.”

“We can still catch them from behind, Admiral,” Tatsuta's cool voice suggests. “And slip them a torp-”

“Tat*suta,*” Jintsuu sighs. “It's only seven miles or so, Admiral - we could catch them north of the island in fifteen minutes.”

“You're out of torpedoes too,” Tatsuta points out.

Your eyes drift down to the blob of green where Perth and Houston are trailing Naka, sheltering behind her smokescreen. The abyssal's lead cruiser is heeling to starboard, using their greater speed to cut off any retreat to open water and pin Naka and her new friends between their guns and the burning fires of the convoy. Anything could be lurking in that mass of light ships, concealed behind the flames or amidst the smoke and darkness - more torpedo boats, more destroyers, corvettes, frigates. Destroyer Escorts, kaibokans, sloops of war - there's no way to know.

And now you have a battleship lumbering in from the south to tighten the noose.

[ ] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.
[ ] Have Tenryuu and Tatsuta shadow the cruisers to help KTKM/Ooi and Nareusan/Steadfast. Send Jintsuu and Sendai south to aid Naka and the new cruisers.
[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403446
In for Navy

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

This seems to be the least bad option.

>>45403446
Hey Planefag. Thank fuck you're here. I need something nice to take my mind off things.

>[o] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

Let's keep our lines of maneuver open. I don't think getting surrounded is a good idea...

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>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

WHERE ARE MY DEVIL DOGS? MY HOUNDS? MY WARRIORS?

>>45403446
>[X] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

Also, someone a few threads back was contemplating how long this shipgirl thing has been going on, and I think the answer is since 541. The reason?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwXAGiIVsgQ

3:15-3:28, and then, most tellingly, 3:47-4:05, especially since that last bit near perfectly describes Abyssals.

>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403446
>[x] Have Tenryuu and Tatsuta shadow the cruisers to help KTKM/Ooi and Nareusan/Steadfast. Send Jintsuu and Sendai south to aid Naka and the new cruisers.

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.
Committing forces piecemeal is ALWAYS a bad idea. In Korea, it got us pushed back to the Pusan Perimeter. In Vietnam, it got us Vietnam. If you're committing forces, commit them IN FORCE.

Finally on time for one of these. Yay.

>[X] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403569
Shouldn't we save them up for the battleship waiting to pounce? They have torpedoes, so they could sink her well enough if they can get the drop on it.

>>45403446
>>[X] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

Overwhelming local superiority works, I suppose.

>>45403605
There's material in the Iliad (or was it the Odyssey?) that sounds suspiciously like ships turning into shipgirls, so...

>>45403446
>[ ] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.
Seems like the best option. It doesn't commit the light cruisers piecemeal and suppports our new friends. If I'm reading this right it is essentially the same as option 2 but sends more support towards Perth and Houston. Could we get a map again?

>>45403665
Naw, Hate can handle the battlewagon by his lonesome.
also, the correct response is HERE, SIR!

>>45403665
We want to immobilize the BB, mind you.

>>45403686
Both have passages that could be taken such.

Poetic language is very quick to personalize everything, after all.

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>>45403446
>[x ] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

>>45403652
I'd train her if you know what I mean.

>>45403686
Yeah, but the whole, "rumors of ships appearing out of nowhere spreading death and destruction and driving people insane," sounds very suspiciously like Abyssals. And that is a tactic they could use. Send plague ships at the coasts.

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403652
>filename
Damnit, now I can't make the joke.

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.
Sendai and Jintsuu literally have more main battery firepower between them than Tenryuu, Tatsuta, Kitakami and Ooi combined.
I'm assuming this vote doesn't entail pulling Naka away from Houston, Perth, the corvette and the gunboats with them.

>>45403446
We've got the Houston on the field, why not try to link up and concentrate around that 8inch battery. Use our torps to keep anything bigger at a distance.

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Here, sorry, messed up the one I had proper labels on.

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RIP Bongs.

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403446
>[X] Have Tenryuu and Tatsuta shadow the cruisers to help KTKM/Ooi and Nareusan/Steadfast. Send Jintsuu and Sendai south to aid Naka and the new cruisers.
Seems best. Not over-committing or sending too little.

>>45403826
What's the X?

Also, if this is the Russian Fleet that got sent to Tsushima, I pity the Abyssals.

>>45403826
We can definitively reach them, pull them out alive and reform a battle line. The corridor is already mostly open.

>>45403850

It's an X

>>45403826
Thanks chief.
>>45403850
Just a reference point he doesn't have selected

Let's remember that those four cruisers to the southeast are currently steaming directly towards Houston/Perth/Naka/friends, and could easily cut them off. I think they can punch their way through, but needs to be kept in mind.

>>45403884
>mfw I remembered you could rename reference points

jesus fucking christ I am stupid

>>45403933
To be fair it's a bit of a pain in the ass, because you have to deselect all but the one you want

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>>45403919
>>45403933
I forget, have we expended our dumb-xocets yet? I think that could come in handy if it comes to it.

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>>45403412
ITS TIME

>>45403990
No, we haven't.

We're waiting for the right time.

>>45403446
>[x] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

Best option for getting everyone out fairly soon. Drawn out combat doesn't favor our forces here.

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>>45403446
>[x] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

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>>45404018
>No, we haven't.
>mfw

>>45404008
Clownpiece will make America great again

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>>45403990
No.
No, we have not.

Or any of the ordnance on the FFGs, for that matter.

>>45403826
So is anybody carrying mines? Because dropping those in the gaps could be useful if we want to do a bit of herding.

Okay, so... Ooi/KTKM are in the middle, Sendai/Jintsuu are below them, and Tenryuu/Tatsuta are above.

Gunboats are the green squares in the back.

BB isn't on the map yet.

This is correct?

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>>45404018
>Implying GOING IN DRY on a battleship with FLYING TORPEDOES would ever be the wrong time.

>>45403446
>[o] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

>>45404091
Perhaps right into our Exocets.

>>45403446
>[X] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403446 #
>[x] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45403446
>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

More discussion, less voting.

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>>45404111

>>45403446
>[ ] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

>>45403446
>[X] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

>>45404112
Given the spooky shit the Abyssals can do, it's in our best interests to save them.

Don't want to dump them only to find out that Abyssals have point defense or something. Or otherwise have other surprises.

>>45404202
Did we really need the reminder that Ioldwa is hostile? I think that goes without saying after she shot Azzy in the face.

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>>45404246
>underestimating anon

where do you think you are

>>45404202
We're scattered all to hell! Someone get some bangalores here!!!

>>45403446
>[x] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

>>45404202
Very nice, thanks.

>>45404246
As one of the anons way back then who mistook her for BB-61 even after the fight was over, yes.

>>45404112
I wasn't being sarcastic or anything. Just explaining that we were still waiting for the proper moment to go "SURPRISE, BITCHES!"

>>45404202
Can KTKM/Ooi spot for the FFG's? Hit the CA's from a distance?

>>45404202
Did we lose a SPICA? Besides the cruisers and corvette in that group I only count 3, there were 4 earlier.
Wouldn't be surprised if we did lose one.

>>45404257
He's being an idealist, leave him to his dreams.

Reality will come knocking soon enough.

>>45404277
I don't think Saving Private Ryan is appropriate right now...

Or isn't it?

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>>45404312

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Post robot girls

>>45404345

Not yet. CMANO's editor is being a pile of fucking cunts, you have no idea. Every now and then a unit just vanishes on me because fuck you, that's why.

Remember, Iowa's main battery may be pathetic compared to Ari's (literally 1/3 as many guns lol) but predreads are built around having a fuckload of secondaries, which are pretty ideal for bodying most of the forces we have available. If we can take out the cruisers hemming our southern force in we should be able to outmaneuver her, but still, be cautious.

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every thread

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>>45404382

Kitakami and Ooi have more cannons than Tenryuu and Tatsuta, they can't be running away.

>>45404392
It's haunted

>>45403446
>[ ] Have Tenryuu and Tatsuta shadow the cruisers to help KTKM/Ooi and Nareusan/Steadfast. Send Jintsuu and Sendai south to aid Naka and the new cruisers.
We've landed a solid punch and broken up the landing-operation, wherever it was going. Now let's get our new returnees, and everyone we arrived with, out of the cauldron to regroup and withdraw.
Chuuniboat and Spear-chick can catch the cruisers in a crossfire and take them out of the picture, then turn and hold the line against any escorts the convoy still has. Jintsuu and Yasen-baka have just enough gun-power to get their sister and the rest of the Allied forces (new returnees included) out of the fire-sack again - especially if the Spicas finally cut loose with their missiles against the eastern cruiser force.
Hate and the Corgi Contingent stay in reserve for the moment. We can commit them to cover our withdrawal - they land, clobber a juicy target, then Fulton out again.

VOTES CALLED

>>45404392
Abyssal spoopyness breaking the fourth wall, perhaps?

>>45404439
lel ijn

>>45404439
Their also larger and less maneuverable.

>>45404440
Haunted by what?

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>>45404392
Cool. And yeah, I know literally exactly what you mean. Switching sides and pausing/unpausing the simulation helps sometimes- and I've found that moving the units of a side you don't have selected can fuck things up weirdly.
>>45404427

>>45404360
Nah, I think it's fairly apt.
>Clear the ramp! 30 seconds to second contact!
>All right people, this is it. Our objective is the shingle at the end of this strait!
>Use those defilades for cover and pop smoke when you can! Do not stop until you reach those two new ships!
>Those CAs have us pinned! We can't move!

>>45403686
I believe it was also mentioned in the Odyssey that the people who ultimately got Odysseus home, the Phaeacians, had ships that could sail themselves. Shipgirls, perhaps?

>>45404484
The ghosts of planefag's past quests.

>>45404112
Giving Suprise BB an unguided France-fucking should be taken as read.

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>>45404474
They're also faster.

>>45404509

I'd say the Crimean war, actually.

>Flashed their torpedoes bare, flashed as they launched through air, torpedoing the cruisers there
>And then they rode back, but not
>not the six hundred

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>Bongs in charge of ship design.

>>45404484
The ghosts of shipsluts past.

>>45403446
I'm a bit concerned that leaving Naka and the new arrivals unsupported might come back to bite us in the stern.

Also, commiting forces with Long Lances (Tenryu, Tatsuta) against enemy cruisers whose capabilities are still uncertain (they might be anything from light to protected to armored cruisers) is risky. A repeat of the Naka accident might take place and that'd be *bad*.

Then again, IF they are protected / armored cruisers, then we'll need everything we have to punch them hard enough and I'm afraid that even if we engage with every gun we have, it'll still be a slaughter.

Fuck it. Commit everything against the cruisers. Out of the three available options, this is the only one that guarantees that we'll have enough throw weight (including torps / corgis, if necessary) to punch them hard enough for them to feel it, no matter what their armor. Plan for the worst possible scenario (two armored cruisers in close range).

>[ ] Send all your light cruisers to help saturate the abyssal duo making a break for it - you've got airstrikes and surprise corgis to shake off the abyssal cruisers if you need to. Committing light forces piecemeal is a bad idea.

I am still waiting for a good naval combat simulator, or at least one where I can captain a capital ship.

x] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

we have a limited amount of space to work with because of the BB, so we need to thin the ranks. However, the longships are currently being shielded by longships we've already sunk, so we need to pull back before we use more torpedos(?)

We also want to get rid of T/T's torpedos before we send them deep into the longboats to follow cruisers, because they're liable to get blown up.

Not using missiles or corgis because we're fucked if we can't deal with the BB, so we have to take our odds here so we don't have to send cruisers into the meatgrinder later.

>>45404545
speed=/=maneuverability

>>45404553
>not the six hundred
I love you man, all the homo.
>dying british cavalry in the distance

>>45404206
Source?

>>45404630
Internet.

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>>45404583
Theres always World of Warships if you don't mind it being horrible, and arcade game, shallow as fuck, or being surrounded by players more mentally challenged than anon and SB combined.

>>45404581
Sorry, anon, but your vote is four minutes too late to be counted.
>feelsbadman.jpg

>>45404440
Like Shoukaku's vagina

>>45403446
>[ ] Have Ooi and Kitakami pull back, and engage those cruisers with Nareusan and Steadfast. Direct Tenryuu/Tatsuta and Sendai/Jintsuu to punch through that convoy and secure an escape route north.

Nareusan and Steadfast still have their anti-ship missiles, while our CLs are mostly out of torpedoes. They can probably handle themselves, though we may need to send them support later.

But what we need right now is an avenue to withdraw. I don't think we can take on that predreadnought, we simply don't have the assets for it. So we are going to have to withdraw and maybe come back tomorrow morning with more air support if the Abyssals still want to fight even after their invasion is scattered.

Now I'm reluctant to send in the CLs into the convoy, because we don't know what lurks there, but the four of them can probably handle any surviving torpedo boats or other escort ships. And we can't avoid taking risks in war.

>>45404581
>I'm a bit concerned that leaving Naka and the new arrivals unsupported might come back to bite us in the stern.
It might, but leaving the cruisers free to run amok through the strait would also be pretty terrible.

Naka-chan's group currently consists of herself (a destroyer leader), a light cruiser, a heavy cruiser, a corvette, and four attack boats that can function as stupidly hilarious 'torpedo' boats, all in various states of damage.

It's not a force with great resilience/armor/staying power, but it IS a force with enough striking power to punch their way to safety through most things.

>>45404674
>Colorado
I'm sorry.

Tune in. Miss vote. Ah a standards Planefag quest thread.

>>45404674
I just treat them as bots. Works better that way.

>>45404674
is that arizona?

>>45404674
When do American battleships stop being suffering in WoWs?

>>45403446
>[ ] Have Tenryuu and Tatsuta shadow the cruisers to help KTKM/Ooi and Nareusan/Steadfast. Send Jintsuu and Sendai south to aid Naka and the new cruisers.

>>45404674
Huh.
The Colorado looks quite nice from that angle.

>>45404740
When they buff the armor. Which is never.

>>45404728
>Colorado
Ari's class isn't in the game

>>45404740
When SerB authorizes Subs and Project Habakkuk to be part of the lineup.

>>45404728
Arizona was a Pennsylvania-class battleship.

I'm pretty sure the Colorado-class were the last standard-types the US produced.

>>45404719
If any Colorado's come back as Abyssals, it's Wargaming's fault.

>>45404768
So what this anon said? >>45404759

>>45404557
Pre-dreadnought. But putting that aside, I'm British and all I can say is that mistakes were made.

>>45404740
>American anything
>Suffering
Your guns fire faster and track faster; you have more and better planes; your cruisers SHRED their equivalent numbers on the Jap tree...

The only thing the USA sucks at is Destroyers and even then, they can rip a Jap DD or a CL of one tier lower apart by sheer gunboat power!

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>average WoWs gameplay

>>45404740
>When do American battleships stop being suffering in WoWs?

>implying Wargaming would ever give the USN nice things

>>45404811
The average game of a BB captain, yeah.

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>>45404688

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>>45404811

>>45404802
American ships are actually performing much worse on all servers than IJN, KMS and VMF ships.

The only exception was Midway, even Iowa is almost identical to Izumo stats wise now.

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>>45404842
>filename

>>45404824
>tfw no W23 for the Iowa and Montana

>>45404674
The only problem I have with that is that WoWS nerfed the ships. You can't activly use secondaries, which are really inaccurate even though they've got the same FC, ships become fucking invisible unless you've either got a plane flying in AA range or an allied ship close enough to see the whites of the eyes of the tiny people manning the ship.

WoWS is fun to play, but a reliable simulator, it is not.

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>>45404854
Fucking why?

Does Wargaming hate the USN or something?

>>45404908
It's a Russian dev-team, soooo....

>>45404740
New Mexico is one of the Best BBs - Punches above it's tier reliably and isn't as much of a grind as some are as stock.

>>45404842
...Iowa and Yamato need to have a friendly little sparring match. Nothing serious, just...

I REALLY want to see those two titans have a chance to really fight it out. The fact that they didn't in WW2 is downright criminal. Two legends like that never having a chance to measure themselves against the only real equal to exist... I'd also personally throw Bismark and Warspite in there as well, but the Kriegsmarine has apparently been rendered non-canon and Warspite, like all britbotes, exists in that weird state of quantum uncertainty where it's semi-canon until Dirigible Queer says one way or the other.

...Hey, come to think of it, if Arizona spoke, she and Yamato might find some common ground. Both were great ships that were by twists of fate, denied their full role in the war. Same as Hood, Bismark and Tirpitz, honestly.

>>45404908
Remember that out of all of them, the USN came out on top. They're trying to avoid some bitchy players complaining about how WG's saying that USN owns your asses and everything else sucks.

To be fair, the performance of the Dreadnoughts is pretty accurate. Slow, vulnerable to plunging fire, limited range, 'cause they were made to duke it out close to mid.

>>45404962
Fuso outperforms it on an average of 20% worldwide.

Basically every USN ship has the same average damage as the previous tier IJN ship.

The tier 8 Amagi does more damage on average than the Iowa at tier 9.

>>45404811
India Yankee bro

>>45404986
>>45404962
>>45404952
>>45404908
>Limeys still not in the game

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>>45404971
The Yamato had godawful effective armor thickness, slower-firing guns that couldn't penetrate as much armor, and poor fire control.

I think we all know how it would have ended.

>>45404811
Playing right now as an American BB, the Iowa we're not fighting...

I suspect Hate plays since it's the only time he gets to see his American girlfriend...

>>45404962
But you gotta get to the melee, at which point those FUCKING DDs will end you.

>>45405006
There's the Warspite. And damn, she is pretty good, especially for a Tier VI Premium.

>>45405006
At least there's Warspite.

>>45404885
They're brining manual secondaries of a kind in the next patch iirc...

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>>45405006
>not having Burgerspite

>>45405006
Do you think HMS Dreadnought will be the first RN battleship?

>>45405006
They have Warspite.

You can count Kongou and Mikasa if you want, they were also made by the Limeys.

What are we doing with all our missiles? We are not using a single one of them.

>>45404885
>You can't activly use secondaries
0.5.3 is going to make that a captain-skill. But it's a 4-point skill, IIRC, and if you have it, you lose automatic targeting of your secondaries, so you need to designate *all* secondary targets by clicking on them.

>>45404908
>Does Wargaming hate the USN or something?
The glib answer is "Yes, because Russians".
More seriously, I think the USN is meant to be the 'starter navy' for all players, decent in all categories but not exceptional in any of them. The IJN has stealth and superb torpedoes, not to mention Yamato (TEH BESTEST BATTLESHIP EVAR!!! Just ask the fan-boys!) The VMF destroyers have decent stealth and ridiculous gun-power. The Kriegsmarine cruisers are a little brittle, but have great guns and 6km torpedoes for oh-shit moments. At the moment, I think people are using the USN to find their speciality and style, then using that to beat up on other people coming up and trying to do the same thing.

>>45405055
Sounds reasonable, although I wouldn't be surprised if Prince of Wales or Repulse came out first.

>>45405054
>>45405048
>>45405036
I dunno if I could consider the 'Spite as limey at this point, poor bloke.

>>45405036
I don't know what you are claptrappin about, destroyers are easy to kill

>>45405009
Didn't Japan have India tier DamCon?

Yams would have probably gotten her ass kicked by an Iowa. Hell, I bet even one of the North Carolina sisters would give her a run for her money.

>>45405110
You have to hit them first and the RNG seems to hate me on dispersion.

>>45405087
We're not firing till we see theblue of their eyes.

>>45405089
I honestly like playing my Mahan when my team is playing competently, as it's the first USN destroyer to get decent torpedoes (ie. torpedoes with a longer range than your detection range) Of course, when the team is incompetent...

>>45405036
No excuse for getting killed by DDs in an American BB.

I learned the game on IJN DDs. Raced up that line before doing anything else. I then moved to cruisers and BBs - and with ~200 BB games under my belt, I have been killed by DDs less than five times.

If you have trouble playing against DDs, PLAY DDs. It's amazing how you learn to dodge torps just by observing your opponents (not) dodge yours.

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>not chasing down CV's in a "fast" battleship

>>45405036
Unless you invest in a Battery mod that increases traverse at the cost of reload, but an experienced player can end a DD in one, maybe two turrets. Either way, New Mex is a dreadnought. She was built before the Golden Age of the Destroyers and was made to fight other capital ships. This wouldn't be a problem if the secondaries were actually decent goddammit WG.

>>45405051
THANK GOD

>>45405129
Oh shit, how could I forget about that.

Yeah, Jap damage control was legendarily bad, to the point where they basically sunk a few ships while attempting damage control.

>>45404374
What is going on here?

>>45404557
At least we didn't even consider Aviation Battleships:

>"The functions and requirements of carriers and of surface gun platforms are entirely incompatible ...the conceptions of these designs ...is evidently the result of an unresolved contest between a conscious acceptance of aircraft and a subconscious desire for a 1914 Fleet ...these abortions are the results of a psychological maladjustment. The necessary readjustments should result from a proper re-analysis of the whole question, what would be a balanced fleet in 1945, 1950 or 1955?"

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>>45405167
>just dodge the torpedoes!

>>45405251
A crane chasing a farmer, by the looks of it.

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>>45404630
Being translated here: >>>/a/137403161

>>45405241
Taiho (one torpedo, hit av gas, chucklefuck in charge of damcon decides to filter avgas throughout the ship. A few hours later...). It's like Crab said, if the Japanese ship girls had Japanese dam con for an immune system, they'd need hamster balls to stay healthy.

>>45405254
Why did the Japs have so many special snowflake warship designs? Was it a result of the Washington Naval Treaty or a flaw of their doctrine?

>>45405167
Oh, it's more residual spite from when I was learning to dodge.

Now I do dodge spreads. Most of the time.

>>45405305
throw shit at wall see what sticks

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>>45403412
hey aviation homosexual, have a thing

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>>45405190
The secondaries do well given enough time, like say, waiting for an american destroyer to get into torpedo range.

>>45405305
Having played Rule the Waves, probably as a result of their old shit being obsolete as soon as it comes off the line

>>45404842
Are cranes that aggressive?

>>45405305
>Why did the Japs have so many special snowflake warship designs?
"We didn't get ALL their Navy? SHITSHITSHIT build fucking ANYTHING!

>>45405344
For some reason, I imagine the American DD's, DE's, and Submarines, being so identical to one another, that it seems like a uniform horde to outside observers.

You know: 173 Willies, 80 Sammy's, 34 Harders, etc.

>>45405262
You see tovarish, when you make the sea into torpedoes, enemy cannot turn away, for fear of being hit by more torpedoes!

>>45405305
Because the IJN knew they were behind the US and Britain and were looking for any way to get an edge over them, no matter how silly it sounded.

>>45405371
You have NO IDEA how territorial most crane species are. They could be on par with emus and cassowaries in the HATE SCALE if you happen to wander into their home.

>>45405089
I think they're trying to balance things out a bit. I mean, not only did the USN have good ships later down the line, but they could also afford to produce them in large numbers. It's only fair that they get downgraded so things will be competitive. WG's RNG is a bitch, though.

>>45405371
There's a reason we use 800mm lenses and set up very far away from cranes.

They're like geese when you piss them off.
Total. Assholes.

>>45405425
That honestly explains a lot.

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>>45405305
Trying new things I guess.

>>45405305
>Because the IJN knew they were behind the US and Britain and were looking for any way to get an edge over them, no matter how silly it sounded.
This sounds like what I'd expect of them.

>>45405305
it was a combo of love for airpower and the fact that they couldnt make a lot of ships, so they keep testing and specialicin' thill thy got something good

>>45405413
Right sentiment, but walls-of-tinfish like that are the work of Japanese DDs and their long-range stealth-barrage bullshit. Seen 'em often enough to know....

>>45405137
RNG hates everyone on dispersion and everything else. Like when you're in a stock New Mex and you find yourself getting assfucked by Showboat herself, even though you never seem to go against a New Mex when you finally get to showboat. Or when you're close enough to see the whites of the eyes of Atago, but your salvo still misses. I think RNG favors premium accounts.

>>45405425
Whelp, we've either got a wildlife biologist on the thread, or the unfortunate victim of several bird attacks...

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Pagoda sisters when.

>>45405522
It fucking doesn't. I have a Premium Account.

>>45405262
Yes, just dodge. Or place yourself in a position where this situation cannot take place.

Firstly, you're 7:10 mins into the game. That's enough time for ~5 Shimakaze reloads - you should probably have noted that the enemy DDs were there because of previous launches. Why go there?

Obviously, there may be reasons; even so, you're turning wrong. You're out of range of all visible enemy BBs, so you shouldn't worry about exposing your broadside and you can maneuver optimally to avoid torps. Why are you turning to starboard and not port? Just cut speed and turn left and you'll eat MAYBE one of the torps coming from the west.

(Also note that the DD in B is spotted. If it had been spotted earlier, you should have taken evasive action a long time ago, not when you (or your fleet) saw the torps).

>>45405564
It's cute that you think those are separate categories.

>>45405405
Either that or they go extremely far out of their way to individualize themselves and hate it when you confuse them for another.

>Fletcher? I'm not Fletcher you cum-gargling, bilge-water-brained mongoloid. I'm Radford.

>>45404999
And yet on actual Ship stats, it's much better than the Fuso.

So clearly the problem is that the people Playing USN ships suck, rather than the ships themselves.

>>45405262
Hammer and Anvil. Classic IJN strategy, if I'm not mistaken. Good fucking luck dodging torps coming at you from both sides.

>>45405009

Well the 18inch guns on the Yamato had on paper more penetration than the 16's of the Iowa class, but it wasn't that much more, only about 1.5 inches at most ranges.

The big thing would be the performance of the Type 91 shell which was fairly easy to decap when compared to the other navy shells of WW2, and guess which navies newer battleships all focused on inner armor belts and decapping plates?

>>45405605
No, it's just implied in the wildlife biologists case...

>>45405564
Nah, I just happened to see some cranes in action. Things were NOT pretty.

>>45405621
Or the ship stats don't reflect actual gameplay utility/mechanics

>>45405336
Unless the destroyer is Mahan and above.

>>45405371
They are.
>>45405425
Both my grandfather and I found that out the hard way.
>>45405442
They're worse than geese - but not as bad as swans.

>>45405344
Did anons really spend $50 on rule the waves?

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That feeling when you catch a KCQ thread but you're so tired you can't see out of your left eye any more.

Good luck with the battle folks, give them hell.

>>45405705
Why wouldn't you?

>>45405705
it was 30 when I picked it up.

>>45405425
>>45405442
I thought they were the symbol of peace?

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>>45405438

It doesn't make sense to me that they would nerf the performance of US ships in the game just because there were more of them in real life.

I will also be forever mad that the Japanese guns have better accuracy on average because they decided radar wasn't going to be modeled.

It's not a big deal for most of the ships in the game, but the late tier US ships had smaller optical range finders specifically because they relied more on their radar.

>>45405611
I forgot a few:

98 gearing class destroyers, 58 Allen M. Sumner class destroyers, 30 Benson class destroyers, 200 something flush deckers, 78 gato submarines, 120 Balao class submarines, 29 tench class submarines, and that's not even counting the Liberty Ships. Overall, I'd have to say that all the US Ships below Light Crusier level would be suffering severe identity crises.

>>45405621
USN BBs are more vulnerable to HE spam than IJN BBs due to the all or nothing armour scheme. Low/mid tier USN BBs are also slow as heck and barely outrange cruisers, so they can't run away from said HE spam.

>>45405741
Appearances fool, mate. They may look majestic, but their actual actions speak otherwise.

>>45405442
Which is funny to me, given how much of a wus herons are.

>>45405705
I would have, had I not spent all my current spare money on model ships.
>>45405706
I don't get it...

>>45405660
This. If there's one thing I've learned over the years playing vidya, it's that
STATS.
LIE.

>>45405578
Then maybe it's the internet here, 'cause from where I'm playing, literally anyone in the whole country (other than those with grey market signal boosters) gets fucked 3/5 when playing WoWS. Ironic, considering how many battle we had off our coasts. Yay Philippines.

>>45405741
That's doves.
Which, oddly enough, are actually notorious for getting into (or making) trouble at every opportunity. Or even vague pretext.

>>45405741
>>45405764
Once again, at least they ain't swans.

Swans are hate given wings.

>>45405596

Its hard to know where a shimakaze will launch from if it isn't spotted the entire match, and trust me if a shimakaze captain isn't shit he can launch from one side of a cap, stay stealthed, run over to the other side and launch again.

>>45405596
>Yes, just dodge. Or place yourself in a position where this situation cannot take place.

away from the whole team, followed quickly by deletion via Midway strike, notice all those ships on 1/2 or 2/3rds HP? That's a Midway doing that.

>Firstly, you're 7:10 mins into the game. That's enough time for ~5 Shimakaze reloads

That was the first barrage of torpedoes, enemy had a DD platoon of two Shimas and a Gearing

>Why go there?
>don't stick with team
>deleted by Midway
>stick with team
>deleted by literal wall of torpedoes
>repeat

>Why are you turning to starboard and not port?

Was already in a hard turn to avoid shells from a Yamato invisifiring from 26km, because our entire fleet was being permaspotted by the DD platoon. Actually managed to avoid all but one of those torpedoes, would have eaten many more if I had tried to switch rudder half way through the turn.

>(Also note that the DD in B is spotted. If it had been spotted earlier, you should have taken evasive action a long time ago, not when you (or your fleet) saw the torps).

That DD was an Udaloi, which can't stealth torp. None of the other three were ever spotted.

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>>45405808
>hate given wings
Strike Witch Hate?

>>45405743
Radar would increase ranges, not reduce dispersion. The IJN deliberately went out of their way to reduce dispersion, while other navies kept it higher due to it increasing a chance to hit due to uncertainties in range measurements.

Since WoWS has perfect range information, you can see where this leads...

>>45405808
Hate given wings, eh? What an interesting concept. Lieutenant, what's the ETA on getting airborne?

>>45405775
or you don't have enough stats because

Rate of fire
accuracy
range
durability of bullet
damage per
speed of bullet
blast radius
damage type
etc, etc, are all coded into the game as stats, you just can't see them because devs hate people knowing what's going on behind the curtain

>>45405701
Swans are bad?

>>45405774

fuck off sb reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>45405808
Or Hate given wings as the case may be - but I agree. Had a disagreement with one on the farm as a kid - I still have the scars.

>>45405808

Canadian Geese are the Bird of Hell

>>45405305
The only two aviation battleships were Ise and Hyuuga, who were converted over in a blind panic after the loss of four Japanese carriers at Midway. They weren't built that way from the beginning. It was a bad decision to overreact to the inability to replace those carriers quickly.

>>45405829
It just sounds like you're not very good at this

>>45405765
Herons are flighty? Or do they just hunt things they can take on?

>>45405889
post stats :^ )

>>45405846
Range on American DDs seems good until you find out it takes 13 seconds to impact at max range. If a ship is going over 25 knots you can't see it on the screen because of how far you have to lead.

>>45405834

So you're saying that radar wouldn't increase accuracy when in real life it allowed more accurate information to be given to the gun directors?

Makes sense.

>>45405844
They're circling the AOR and awaiting drop coordinates, mate. If it comes to we'll see Corgis dropping in like Screamin' Eagles on D-Day.

>>45405832
Which witch would Hate want to kill first?

and why is it zucchini

>>45405513
It's ridiculous how much better Jap torps are.

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>>45405832
>>45405844
>>45405861

I would rather insult the good Lieutenant to his face than go up against an angry swan.

At least my death would be swift in the first case.

>>45405743
Radar doesn't mean anything in this game since it doesn't actually feed you the numbers. It's all point, click, adjust, repeat. Basically, that's what the IJN was doing before hteir ships were encoded into a MMO game that everyone plays. Dye packs for each ship, adjust your aim based on where it landed, fire again.

>>45405913
>speed of bullet
As I said, it's all coded into the game, the devs just fucking hate you and don't want you to see what's going on behind the curtain.

Unless you're talking about real effectiveness vs. vidya game effectiveness which is another thing involving military secrets.

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Germans when?

>>45405893
They are very prone to being startled. They don't like eye contact.

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>>45405926
You mean like this?

>>45405874
Had two of those go after my little brother. However, after the swan incident I was prepared. We had them for dinner after mom made me pick out all the birdshot pellets...

>Kant-o-celles quest: /wowsg/ edition

>>45405949

I'm just trying the point out that the complete lack of radar modelling adversely effects US ships more than the other nations atm.

>>45405969
So shy waifus that fish for you.

What else could a man ask for?

>>45405926
Or like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpH_lhqhzUk

>>45405829

>away from the whole team, followed quickly by deletion via Midway strike, notice all those ships on 1/2 or 2/3rds HP? That's a Midway doing that.

Fair enough. There's no way to see what carrier you were up against. I'd like to argue that your problem in that particular game was the Midway, then, not the Shima.

>Was already in a hard turn to avoid shells from a Yamato invisifiring from 26km, because our entire fleet was being permaspotted by the DD platoon. Actually managed to avoid all but one of those torpedoes, would have eaten many more if I had tried to switch rudder half way through the turn.

Again, fair enough if you were already in a turn. there was no way I could know that from one snapshot only.

>That was the first barrage of torpedoes, enemy had a DD platoon of two Shimas and a Gearing

Cancel my former diagnosis, THAT was your problem. Division cheese is a thing, I'll admit.

THAT SAID, if the DDs didn't torp at all until 7:10 minutes through the game, your team must have sucked horribly if you lost the game.

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>>45405971
Hooah, paratroopers!
And yeah, all they need is a green flare and they'll be good to go. We're keeping them in reserve for that eventuality.

Don't forget that they removed most of the quadruple bofors mounts from high tier USN ships, and replaced them with dual mounts

>is blance)))

>>45405889
It sounds like >>45405829 ran into a DD division that actually knew what they were doing. Which is a recipe for slaughter at that tier. A good division is dangerous; a good DD division that knows how to play their own ships, and how to do that to complement everyone else on their team, is a 35kt murderball.

It isn't "DDs are OP", it's "teamwork and skill are OP".

I want to get back into WoWS. Is it worth it?

>>45406027
This

>>45406009
We had a cruiser try to push

he got deleted by the Yamato firing across the map, probably didn't even notice the shells coming in

>>45405987
concerning birds, you know what is the most devilish avian creature of all?

The 'sea'-gull.

They're fucking everywhere now.

You go through the car wash, drive out, and... splat, right on the fucking windshield. Or on the hood.

And it's apparently illegal to shoot them. The fuck?

>>45406027
My experience is to have the American DD's go "WITNESS ME!" drawing the fire of the enemy while the Japanese ships close and torp.

>>45406033
no

god no

>>45406017
[SerB saying WORKING AS INTENDED in the distance]

>>45405945
It's 'cause Japan's one of the few countriea that seriously invested in torpedoes before the war, Everyone else focused on the number of ships and the guns, and since Japan couldn't match that, they went for the ever-effective alternative. Fish. Unseen, and deadly.

>>45406033

It's alright, but if you want to play US ships I'd avoid it. They are kind of borked right now imo.

>>45406094
Is muh showboat at least playable?

>>45406072
To be fair; the Type 93 Long lance only existed because of hilarious misunderstandings.

>>45406033

Typical WG experience. Sorta fun, but with lots of dick kicking. If ground forces and aviation are any indication, War Thunder's going to blow them out of the water once they release warships, and I'll never play WoWS again.

>>45406072
'Ever effective' is a questionable claim. Torpedoes were destructive individually, but, ultimately, torpedo doctrine was not particularly cost-effective

>>45406017
A single dual bofor gives about 4.5 AA rating on its own, so I would think if they actual modeled US ships accurately, they might as well take out Aircraft carriers in the next patch.

>>45406055
How does one play US DD then?

>>45406072
I'm just saying that the historical advantages of other nations were nerfed into uselessness, Jap torps should also get the cyka blyat up the bum to the same degree
>>45406112
Please elaborate

...Now I wonder if any of the Yokosuka shipgirls/shipboys play World of Warships?

>>45406121
Wait, we can play tanks in War Thunder now?

I am getting on it.

I wish I can play flight sims but I don't understand 3D positioning.

>>45406109
No. Performs worse than the Nagato, and much worse than Amagi.

Turret traverse angles are horrific, meaning 1/3rd of your already inaccurate and slow shells can't be used without going broadside and being citpenned by literally everything.

Torpedo damage resistance is literally worse than tier IV's. As in, twice as worse (18% vs 34%).

Enjoy death.

>>45406109

I'm most heavily invested in the US BB line atm.

The North Carolina is probably my favorite BB along with the New Mexico. I love the Iowa but I get focused a ton in higher games and the guns are great but they overmatch most targets armor.

Maybe I'm just bad but it annoying to get 5 hits on a cruiser and have them all do a collective 5-6k

Any anons know if Hate is around? I want him to answer my question from Wednesday.

>>45406136
My experience prior to the Mahan was to wait for other ships, cruisers and battleships preferably to act as bullet sponges and then pull a Sendai on the opponent, using whatever cover is available, and then running the fuck away with every gun I can get pointed at the enemy firing.

>>45406136
Assassin gunships. With the proper spec-out, they can fire while remaining invisible and burn everything with HE shells. And they're stealthy enough to choose when to engage with USSR DDs, which are the only other gunship line.

>>45405969
They're a ton of fun to photograph though.
I can't think of a single time I've taken photographs of herons in flight and they weren't good.

>>45406142
>tfw desdiv 6 play themselves in a WoWs game

>>45405621
The game balance for BBs at Tier 10 is pretty fucked. Yamato's armour thickness is taken at face value, so regardless of material quality they are literally immune to all 16" shellfire unless it hits them perpendicularly at close range. As a result they shit all over US players the moment they upgrade to tier 8

Wargaming's answer to player complains is that the Yamato shitting all over the Montana is working as intended. They they went on to say that the German/British and French BBs would be in the game eventually and those suck, so the Montana would have something to bully. Nevermind that the Yamato would shit all over all of them. Some people suspect that this president was set so that Russian ships could be added with similarly inflated paper stats.

That said this cuts both ways. Some of the US Cruisers are so good that they have been nerfed like clockwork in every patch since the beta. And despite having less than 50% of their real world power in some areas they still outperform everything else at that tier.

>>45406142
I would guess just Naka and Shigure.

>>45406054
Not where I live it isn't...or I hope it isn't or I'm getting dragged to The Hague for genocide...

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>>45406121
>War Thunder
Never heard of this until now.

What does it offer?

>>45406230
There are worse ways to get a free trip to Europe.

>>45406128
They had the realistic loadouts for a while.

Tier 6-7 IJN Carrier captains complained that they couldn't delete a tier 8-9 American BB, so they nerfed the Iowas and north Carolina's AA massively.

))))

>>45406232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g_Eprk57H0

>>45406206
Only the Cleveland, and its performing on par with Aoba now. It being an overpowered rapemachine is just a meme left over from CBT.

>>45406232
Tank and airplane combat with a very good subsystem-based damage model (no HP bars here).

Joint airplane/tank combat

A matchmaker that is horribly imbalanced.

A good amount of pay-to-win premium vehicles.

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>>45406206
You can't make a game like this without ignoring real world stats in favor of a balanced approach.

You could maybe give each country's ships, or specific classes, some thing they're better at than others or something, but that's about it.

>>45406232

It has planes, but only play realistic or sim, arcade is shit.

Tanks used to be a lot of fun for me, but now that they fucked their BR (match making and tiering) system so much I can't enjoy playing the game.

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>>45406296
>A matchmaker that is horribly imbalanced.
>A good amount of pay-to-win premium vehicles.
Hope was smothered in its cradle.

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>>45406121
You work for Gaijin or something, or are you just retarded?

>>45406232
If it only wasn't for Gaijin constantly nerfing the fuck out of Germany I'd still be playing that game

>>45406298
Or you could make all the ships realistic with stats and then adjust which tier a ship is in.

It would amuse me greatly if there was a tier 11-12 and there were 0 jap ships in it.

>>45406121
People say this, then WT ruins itself again.

>>45405305
The number of slipways they had at any given size. Specifically, for most ships larger than a destroyer, only four slipways which could economically build the ship existed in the nation. This means that they'd order four or less ships, use the experience to revise the design, and then be required to build something 'better' for the next design.

>>45406198
They also seem to like roosting in oceanside cedars. They can make night time walks on the beach pants filling affairs.

>>45406192
>>45406188
Thanks anons!

>>45405254
The american design was really closer to a super Tone, and was considered more for stimulus purposes than good naval doctrine.

>>45406331
Sorry. :-/

You can still try it. If you can ignore the stalinium-built airplanes that slice through enemy wings in mid-air collisions and emerge unscathed. Or the blatant continuous nerfing of the German vehicles.

The damage model is GOOD.

>>45406198
I don't know why but they look so graceful.

>>45406331

It was good around 2-3 years ago. But they sacrificed everything to the god of queue times, not realising that they were simply selling a long term investment for a short term profit.

>>45406413
Don't forget nerfing bombers into the ground

>>45406225
Not the chunni-cruiser? Or Maya-sama?
>>45406230
Lucky bastard...

Well, it's illegal where I live. It's not illegal to leave kerosene-soaked bread crumbs out in a parking lot, though...

Anyway, does anybody have that picture regarding Akagi crying over a model carrier? Trying to find it, having no luck.

Any good SINGLE PLAYER naval sims out there?

Christ, if I wanted to interact with other people I sure as shit wouldn't be playing video games.

>>45406413
>ammo racks survive multiple hits from APHE rounds, and actually act to adsorb shrapnel and keep the crew from getting killed

yeah

good

>>45406206
>That said this cuts both ways. Some of the US Cruisers are so good that they have been nerfed like clockwork in every patch since the beta. And despite having less than 50% of their real world power in some areas they still outperform everything else at that tier.
Behold the goddamn Cleveland. Bane of my existence ever since I got my Clemson, and will be until they get re-tiered. (Frak if I'll ever get to the Fletcher or Gearing before they do finally retier the Cheatland, at which case I'll be frakked both by the Clevelands *and* the repair costs from Tier-IX and Tier-X games.)
I swear, I *live* for the day that I actually manage to bushwhack one of those things at an island-corner and blow his shit away with ALL MY TORPEDOES. Which will probably be *never*, if the Cleveland driver has two working brain-cells....

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>>45406347
Sounds like that route would result in more shit-flinging for little benefit.

Can't speak for others, but I'd personally prefer a fun and balanced warship game over something historically accurate.

>>45406413
>If you can ignore the stalinium-built airplanes that slice through enemy wings in mid-air collisions and emerge unscathed.
Wait, is this the source of that gif with some plane slicing through another with its wings?

>>45406446
Well there's the battlestations series, but it's part-rail shooter at times.
There's also Warship Gunner.

>>45406232
russian devs

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>>45406446
Rule the Waves.

CMANO.

That’s about it.

>>45406456
Uuuuhh... -.-

OK, the *concept* is. I'll grant you, the *execution* has some...bugs.

>>45406499
Is working fine, tovarisch

>>45406446
Warship Gunner.

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>>45406383
Cranes are cunts, at least they're relatively predictable.
It's not hard to set up in the right spot so you can catch them coming in for landing, or set up across their take off path to get something like this.

>>45406516
And yet she's still slower than a Fantasque.

>>45406530
is of historical accuracy tovarisch ))))

>>45406413
Stalinium sure is a wonder material, isn't it? I very quickly learned to hate it whenever I saw the Yaks and LaGGs on-screen.

I wonder what they make the American tanks out of in the game, what with them being both invisible and invincible at the same time

>>45406464
>>45406464
Word of advice: Keep moving. don't stop turning 'cause it spoils their fire, and keep changing speed. You'll take a few hits, but you'll last long enough to close in. My Clemson had impressive tally marks of seven Cleves before I sold it after upgrading to Nicholas.

>>45406138
Back in the '20s the IJN and RN reps were hobnobbing at some embassy function and the Japanese misinterpreted a statement by a RN officer. The RN officer was saying that the RN believed that oxygen torpedoes were basically a technical impossibility and weren't bothering with R&D for them in favour of steam/wet heater engines, whereas the Japanese misinterpreted that statement (somehow) as him saying that the RN weren't bothering with Oxygen Torp R&D right now because *already had* oxygen torpedoes.

Cue one panicked Japanese Oxygen torpedo crash program and a *lot* of money, and you have the Type 93 several years later.

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>>45406516
>Shimakaze volunteers to help out with refitting shipgirls
>Willie vouches for her
>She shows up in proper work clothes
>Settle's face for each event

>>45406547
Which makes one wonder if Fantasque even wears anything into battle, if she's faster than Shimakaze.

>>45406539
>Tower this is Crane flight, permission to buzz the tower, over
>Negative, Crane flight, the pattern is fu--OH FOR FUCKS SAKES

>>45406487
Yes.

I've seen occasions of upwards of three successive mid-airs. Strangely, the UUSR plane usually goes home for vodka.

Also, planes occasionally keep flying with half their wings shot off. Which is hilarious

>>45406298

Your right that's how it should work, but with the things they have decided to include and not include based on their whims they have nerfed how US ships operate.

For instance how shell velocity works. US guns have lower muzzle velocity pretty much across the board. This is consistent with real life, but irl they lost their velocity much slower over distance where as japanese shells lost their velocity much faster meaning that US and JP shells tended to have similar velocity when hitting a target at distance.

I under stand that in the system WG has this might not be easy to implement, but since all they take into account is muzzle velocity it turns Japanese and German cruiser guns into rail guns and US cruisers have these huge rainbow arcs of fire that make it frustratingly hard to put effective fire on anything not a BB at range.

Also that rainbow arc is completely fabricated a JP 8inch with 850~ mps muzzle velocity at 16,000 yards hit at an angle of fall of 15.8° where as a US 8inch firing at 770~ mps would have an angle of fall at 16,000 yards of 16.9°.

>>45406464
> *live* for the day that I actually manage to bushwhack one of those things at an island-corner

I actually managed to do that once in my Clemson. It was pretty great.

>>45406596
Half? Try all.

>>45406446
HOI4?

>>45406487
Ya, because how in the hell a Zero slices a PBY wing off without imploding blows my mind. Then again there are.... worse things that happen in War Thunder.

>>45406582
Come to think of it, what does Settle even look like?

>>45406381
It's not like the US really mass-produced larger ships other than the Essex class. The Clevelands and Baltimores were semi-mass produced, because we didn't want to take the delay involved in changing over, but it was never really intended to build them for six years nonstop.

USN procedure was typically to order a new design every year up until the Washington Treaty; after that, we would generally order in small batches. Pairs of capital ships, divisions of cruisers, and squadrons of destroyers. The only reason that the Standards are so similar is because SECNAV Josephus Daniels (he who ordered the Navy to go dry!) kept overruling the General Board's characteristics for new battleships every year, instead ordering that that year's pair be a repeat of the previous one with some detail improvements.

>>45406623
>>45406487
GLORIOUS NIPPON STEEL
PLANE WINGS SHARP LIKE KATANA
FILTHY GAIJIN GO HOME

>>45406633
Josephus Daniels "horses whinny" (Young Frankenstein reference)

>>45406613
Especially if you manage to do so without taking any damage, becoming detected, getting first blood, and surviving the battle with two more kills under you belt after that. Ah, Clemson. You hath given me such glory in the past...

>>45406664
JOSEPHUS DANIELS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn9dDaJjjE4

>>45406596
>>45406232
You see Ivan, if you fuel plane with nothing but vodka it will grow big and stronk like T-34/85

>>45406633
The Cleveland wasn't "semi-mass produced", it was the most numerous class of cruiser ever made up to that point.

>>45406677
>Ah, Clemson. You hath given me such glory in the past...

Then you scrapped her as you moved up on the tier list, didn't you?

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>>45406596
Ugh.

>>45406605
I really don't want to play the game when the devs make such fundamental fuckups like this.

It shows that they're not good at balancing, correcting mistakes, or are maybe just intentionally biased.

It makes me wonder how much effort it would take to get some basic ship combat working with UE4.

>>45406661
Fucking love that Gif.

>>45406121
>>45406232
>War Thunder's going to blow them out of the water once they release warships
Warthunder has been choking on it's own vomit for more than a year now. It was a fucking amazing game 2 years ago but it's been a steady slide downhill due to blatant slavwank and a dev team that doesn't give two shits about anything the player's say or want. Not to mention that one day they just up and decided to make the grind about 200% worse because the players were having too much fun apparently.