>>46307851
I'm sorry OP, but we really need an emblem for this chapter, so we could use it for the OP at the very least

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>>46308092
Well we need a Drawfag for that

It was decided to be either a Ghostly fist

Or a ghostly hand doing pic related

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>>46308243
How about something like this?

WARBOYZ

>>46308267
Don't know how that would translate. Could have a triangle represent that, I guess

>>46308317
Im just trying to brainstorm, that's all

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where in the galaxy are we located?

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>>46308327
Same here, guy. If we heavily stylize it to look like the imperial fists fist, this /could/ work, I guess

>>46308358
Segmentum Pacificus

>>46308402
Why?

>>46308402
How about Segmentum Tempestus?

>>46308383
I kinda like this, its certainly different and interesting.

>>46308986
Whats in the tempestus segmentum?

>>46309344
It's a Hindu good luck charm though, I think

>>46309673
Is it? Imean, we could still use it or a similar-ish symbol, Idon't know but we do need someone to Drawfag a Chapter badge for us

bumpin

Ithink we should get some specific interactions with other Fists succesors. I will try to get one such interaction up later today

>>46311836
My vote is for flame lords, invaders or subjugators.

>>46312584
>flame lords
I'll do it after OP puts his up

>>46312746
oh please if you have an idea don't wait for me, in like 20 min I'm actually going to my GW gamestore to pick up a new model so if you have a story in ya put it up

>>46312849
Actually never mind its closed today... god damnit

>>46312905
>>46312849
What mini were you going for? Also, there's a /tg/ sector thread up for all the recent homebrews that we could get in, if you want

>>46313383
I was gonna grab a Daemon prince for my Chaos Space marines, not great on table top or not I wanted one

And sure, we can throw the spectres in there, link it up pls

>>46312905
>closed, monday
Where do you live Anon?

>>46313849
U.S.A, Tennessee

>>46312746
You working on your bit? I'm working on my bit right now, involving the Invaders

>>46315878
Sort of! I'm excited to see what you have, guy

>>46315938
Would we prefer a writefag from the marines perspective during the campaign or a report of it from afterwards?

>>46316202
I was planning on doing from the flame lords perspective

>>46316294
Yea I think I'll write it from aan Invader Sergeants perspective... gotta a spot of work to do first though

>>46316327
I'm busy as well, but free at night. Well, free in the sense that I'm working on this, the sanguine shields and the tg sector

We come up with a color scheme yet?

>>46316414
Speaking of the sector project, have the Spectres been suggested?

>>46317335
Well there's this currently
>>46289902

but someone said they were working on a more gold colored one that has yet to be seen

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>>46317617
Here's something

>>46317762
Eh, it's not that great

"Sergeant! The enemy musters for another wave!", Sergeant Agustus pulled his power sword from the steaming corpse of the cultist it had been impaled through, growling, "Then ready yourselves brothers! These heretics challenge the Invaders, and they shall been thrown back time and time again.", he took up his position next to brother Gratus, who hefted his heavy bolter in prepararion.

The mad yell of the traitorous cltists now charging across no-mans land were maddening, and this appeared to be the largest wave since the first... they outnumbered his squad and their small PDF allies at least 20 to 1... a last stand that would make Dorn proud. He raised his bolt pistol, and prepared to shout litanies of hate into the charging ranks, when the drop pods landed.

It wasn't very many, three drop pods of a strange color, a stark golden yellow that burned at the eyes along with stak, straight stripes in a burning orange, contrasing sharply with the thick yellow and the gray wastes of the world itself. Then, these strange vehicles dropped their planks, and out strode a strange assortment of marines. The one nearest disgorged a squad of disimilarly colored Terminators, their armor the same bright, piercing yellow-gold but with dark black stripes. They strode into the wave of cultists, laying about them with power fist and Storm bolter, driving a bloody swathe through the traitors. The other two Drop pods disgorged Dreadnoughts, colored in the same way as their terminator allies. the most intriguing symbol however, was the spectral fist painted on to each Marine, Dread and drop pod.

>>46318846
Aw fuck yeah!

>>46318846
cont

Agustus turned to Brother Gratus, who shrugged and guessed the sergeants order, vaulting over the trench with Agustus as he shouted with his vox set to max volume, "REINFORCEMENTS! FELLOW ASTARTES! CHARGE BORTHERS, SHOW THESE TRAITORS OUR FURY!", his squad and their attached Chaplain for the campaign, Chaplian Parus, charged from the trench and joined in the close combat, Agustus cutting down traitors as he made his way to their new allies.

He cam up alongside who he believed was their commander, a Terminator wielding a massive Power sword and Storm shield. The shield had... a strange depiction on it. It appeared to be Dorn but... he had at least seven heads, six encircling one in the center. He carried a hammer in one arm and a bolter in the other, each head had one halo, the hammer had one and the Bolter had a one. To his right stood what looked like another Imperial Fist, a halo over his head and a resplendent bolter in his hands.

The Terminator Sergeant sliced another three cultists in half with one mighty swing as Sergeant Agustus addressed him, "Greetings Terminator! From what Chapter do you and your men hail?"

The Terminator did not even pause to answer, smashing a rather large cultist to the ground with his shield, "The Golden Spectres Brother! We come to aid our fellow sons of Dorn in their plight!"

Agustus raised an eyebrow beneath his helmet, Sons of Dorn? He had never heard of the Golden Spectres, and certainly knew they weren't any sons of Dorn he knew. But, it was a topic for later, for now he joined his new ally in the slaying of heretics, both Marines armor becoming covered in traitorous gore and viscera.

>>46320487
I'm digging it so far. Cont?

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In the far reaches of Ultima Segmentum, there lies an agriworld long lost to the Imperium, known as Aflorilia IX. Lost in the processes of the Administratum, the planet flourished, with human life developing successfully, independent from the Imperium. Tau conflict in nearby systems required more support for the guard forces, sending the Administratum into a fervor of local worlds. In this examination of Imperial archives, it was discovered that the Aflrorilians were lacking in 9,500 years worth of tithes. Orders for a dispatch were sent to Astartes operating in nearby systems to accompany a guard contingency in bringing the planet back into the Imperial fold.

The members of the "Anthonian Tunnel Rats" Guards were meant to formally begin the invasion of the planet along with auxiliary Yuanese and Hyrkanian guardsmen. Met with immediate resistance from heavily entrenched rebels, the Guardsmen requested the Fire Lords operating within the sector expedite their planned assistance in retaking the planet. Lord Phoros agreed, and ordered a company of marines to break the defender's bulwarks and secure the planet's largest capital. Captain Narious and his battle-brothers volunteered for such a service, prepared their promethium stocks and sharpened their implanted teeth, making their way towards the lowly agriworld.

>>46320487
cont

With the arrival of two dradnoughts and the Terminator squad the cultists began to break. Falling back to their fortifications and, when the Dreadnoughts began pounding them to dust from the distance theu ran further, back into the the decimated city streets and alleys, anything to escape the vengeful Angels of Death.

Agustus beheaded one last cultist as he tried to run, panting he surveyed the filed, the streets and ground were littered with the traitors bodies, hundreds of them had fallen to bolter and blade. He looked to his new allies, the Terminators stalked the field, crushing any cultists still breathing. Their commander now approached Agusts, introducing himself, "I am Veteran Sergeant An-Chi-Binh of the Golden Spectres First Cell.", Agustus made the sign of the Aquilla before responing, "Sergeant Agustus Sinclair, Sergeant of Tactical squad three, fifth company of the Invaders. I welcome your aid...", the Terminator raised his hand, "Brother Sergeant An, please.", Agustus nodded, "Well, Brother Sergeant, than you for the assistance... will you remain to help us push inwards?"

An seemed to think for a moment, most likely conversing with his squad, "Indeed brother, let us bring the hammer of Dorn the Emperor to these Heretics.", it was then Chaplain Parus approached the two, "Pretender! You are no son of Dorn!", the two sergeants turned to the helmetless Chaplain, who seemed quite furious. "Do not ever claim such again Pretender!"

>>46321132
>>46320487
>>46318846
Fucking Ace

>>46321588
Still not done. It is late so no more tonight cause I'm going to bed soon, but it is far from over.

Speaking of Which, OP is now tired and needs sleep, keep being awesome thread!

OP is now sleep... don't let the thread die

>>46321618
I'll try, but with recent track record, that might not mean much

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We should stat these guys up for deathwatch, could be fun

>>46322091
Something something witnessed, something something shiny and chrome.

>>46322364
something something riding eternal something something greater good

>>46321090
I know it isn't much, but I'm currently too tired to write, I'll try top continue tomorrow

>>46321132
>"Pretender! You are no son of Dorn!", the two sergeants turned to the helmetless Chaplain, who seemed quite furious. "Do not ever claim such again Pretender!"
Damn, that got hostile quick

Given the Hindu good luck charm and the invocation of seven headed Dorn, might I suggest an Indian style culture for the chapter?

>In Hinduism, Shesha (Sanskrit: Śeṣa), also known as Sheshanaga (Śeṣanāga) or Adishesha (Ādi Śeṣa) is the nagaraja or king of all nāgas and one of the primal beings of creation. In the Puranas, Shesha is said to hold all the planets of the universe on his hoods and to constantly sing the glories of the god Vishnu from all his mouths. He is sometimes referred to as Ananta Shesha, which translates as endless-Shesha or Adishesha "first Shesha". It is said that when Adishesa uncoils, time moves forward and creation takes place; when he coils back, the universe ceases to exist.

Rationalize the Alpha Legion belief that the death of humanity will kill chaos, as a loyalist. Perhaps this will happen, but must it happen now? It will happen in its own good time. This is neither good or bad, it just is. The Golden Spectres accept that humanity is eventually doomed, but still fight to preserve it, because such is their role. Owing to their dual nature as alpha legionnaires and Imperial Fists, their flexible strategies and kill zones could be backed by a ridgid caste and rank system within the chapter. Each brother has a duty according to their caste/rank, and they play this role until their caste changes. Scouts are known as Untouchables, because they are said to be so ghost-like in battle none can harm them. Every terminator veteran is a darmic philosopher.

>>46323710
I thought we said in the previous threads that we weren't gonna do an Indo-Chinese/Indian aesthetic/culture for the chapter. As to not outcast them from the Greater Dorn family.

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>>46321090
>>46323710
Refer to previous thread
>>46253608

>>46323779
That was mostly one dude. There's a lot of variation in the ip successors, as also pointed out last thread

>>46323894
In that case, let's bring back the Black Sharpened Teeth. The Indo-Chinese influences and aesthetic. And maybe Vietcong techniques.

Totally Special Forces vs Predator tho

>>46323994
Yeah, I'm game. So long as we don't go too overboard

>>46323994
Our chapters defining tenants are based off Vietnamese principles, so there's that.

The black teeth is cool, the fire lords have the same thing but with metal teeth

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>>46324094
>>46324190

Yeah, this pretty much says it all for the Golden Spectres

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Copy and Pasto from the previous threads

Aspiring space marine initiates are called to the Jungle Death World of Tet where they will face the calling of a space marine. For an entire month in the lethal jungles of Tet, they'll be hunted down by a dedicated squad of space marines (Who will shoot and kill them on sight/auspex) , as well as the infinitely lethal wild-life. Any Aspirants who managed to save the month (Known as The Selection) will be accepted into the chapter.

However, there is also a way to bypass the brutal initiation ritual, which is to slay a marine of the Golden Spectres (Predator vibe) of the hunting pack.

The vicious flora and fauna of Tet are every bit as ferocious and dangerous as the famed ones on Catachan.

For instance, the Death tree (Capable of killing humans with a single touch), the large 'roaches' (The Size of Land speeders) swarms that plagued the planet, poisonous spitting two-headed terrapins (With transdermic venom),

Acid vines, venomous 'rattan', wild packs of gnox, the gigantic yet elusive 'Funnel' web' (The size of a land raider), enormous hordes of ants (Able to kill and eat an adult human within minutes), the large swarms of 'buzzkill' hornet (Size of a bolter) and last but not least, the insidious fungal species known as the 'spore givers' have also been recorded (Basically superhuman zombies with enough strength to grapple with a space marine) deep in the forest.

The Magos Biologis have launched countless expeditions into the 'primary' forest but none had made it back.

Picture: A Poor late-stage Tet victim of a 'spore-giver'

Copo and Pasto from previous threado

For ground combat, the Golden Spectre would fortify locations in advance and try to either crush their opponent with overwhelming force or bait them (with their mobile detachments) to pre-determined and fortified kill zones

The 'Vietcong Sapper' scouts +Assault marines could be an interesting variation (Not enough to differentiate themselves from the Imperial Fists but as a hint to their heritage).

>>46324440
I'd like to talk about their tactics more tomorrow when I wake up, I think

>>46324406
'survive the month'

>>46324727
There's a reason why there's not many of these guys

>>46324856
Did we ever discuss numbers? I know theyre endangered, so maybe 3-400 around? Less than half

>>46324993
Did we roll for them to be endangered?

Bumper sticker

THE OP AWAAAKS!!!

Back and I like what I see

I have to admit I'm glad we seem to be bringing back the indodhinese/indian

I always thought it was weird to say no to that considering how varied other fists succesors are
>>46324993
I think rolling the actual number is weird.

Endangered- MASSIVE losses, as in we need to have less than half a chapter, 400 is definitely on the up and up side of endangered, how bad off do we want them to be after half the chapters little mishap?

>>46323701
Well I thought 'The Invaders are some brutal bastards aye? Chaplains must be super mad... and hostile'

>>46323710
hmmmm... maybe Viet cong tactics mixed with some of this? We replace this Shesha character with Dorn(obviously) and I like the acceptance of Humanities Doom but still fighting against it. It also gives a wider range of naming conventions

But remember, they don't REALIZE they are Alpha leigon succesors

>>46321132
Continuing this later today

>>46317762
I do kind of like it, just not fond of the blue.
Make the upper legs white and the helmet dark green?

>>46326742
Or we could just see how it looks white like the other parts of the armor? Whats the color codes for it?

Also, feel free to change it yourself and put it up here

>>46326713

The 9 headed naga (One head represent each primarch) and one Buddha (Which represents the EMPRAH)

>>46326420
We can sum it up to either a Tyranid attack or inter-chapter warfare or Chaos dickery or all three. Take your pick-

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Messing around a bit with colors.
Liked >>46317762 , but I prefer a bit of green.

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>>46327367
>>46326742
He's green helmet

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>>46327403

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>>46327421

>>46327382
>>46327367
I don't know I like these... but why include green at all? Why not just the white and gold?

>>46327653
White and gold don't contrast all that well, so a third color makes things really pop out

>>46327678
Ah, sorry, not an art person in general alright in that case...

these ones are the best in the OP's opinion
>>46327367
>>46327382
>>46327403

>>46327695
It's all good. My only problem is that I think the bone color works better than white

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>>46327695
Curvy power daggers/machetes!

>>46327774
Currently the only two chapter relics are most likely curved power daggers

>>46327774
I also think officers should have personal pwer daggers, sort of as a badge of office and a signifier of their rank you know?

OK, I am now getting back to my writefag

>>46326806
My only problem with this is the Empreor being an overt Buddha... I don't think we want them worshipping the emps like the Black Templars and that sorta suggests thhey do. The closest figure they should come to worship needs to be Dorn. I don't think we need a buddha anlouge at all honestly

>>46328378
Honestly, we don't even need Dorn-worship. He could just be a source of ancestral reverence/veneration, just like what the Old Spess Mehreens would do

>>46321132
Agustus was confused, but Sergeant An quickly responded to the enraged Chaplain, "We are no less Sons of Dorn than you are Chaplain, were I of your spiritual training I woul bandy words with you further, but as is we must press on.", Chaplain Parus glared at the Terminator before speaking again, "Say what you want, but until the day you are represented at the Feast of Blades I will not tout you as sons!", with that he left, muttering oaths under his breath. Agustus needed to address this with his new ally, "Brother Sergeant forgive me as I am unaware of why your claim to Dorn is so... hotly contested by the Chaplain."

An seemed to consider leaving the topic lay as Agustus watched him prepare to respond, "Our Father Chapter has yet to accept our claim Brother. But we are true sons, do not doubt that.", Agustus nodded slowly, his suspicions of earlier confirmed. He turned to An, "I will ready my men to leave.", Brother Sergeant An seemed hesitant to return to his squad with such an awkward topic brooched so suddenly, "I shall have Honoured Brothers Shresth and Mitul hold this position whilst we forge inwards Brother Agustus.", with that the Veteran Sergeant stalked back to his assembled squad and the Dreadnoughts to inform them.

As Agustus returned to his own men he resolved to judge their new allys... to see if they truly were worthy of the title 'Sons of Dorn'.

>>46328535
We decided a couple threads ago trhey don't worship Dorn but they come quite close, simmilar to the Hammers of Dorn.

They venerate him to an extreme, hence his common depiction as a many headed being in their iconography.

For those confused about the depiction on Sergeant An's shield, the other Imperial fist is their hero of legend who I will refer to as Giddeon until we have decided upon a name for him

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I did a sketch in class of what I think the emblem would look like

>>46327695
Roll a 1d5

Rolled 1 (1d5)

>>46328747
Here we go... lets see whitch one the Dice gods choose for us

>>46327367
The dice gods have chosen... were they correct?

>>46328636
I like this, needs some expansion though

Rolled 4 (1d5)

>>46328783
Narrowing our options!

>>46328806
In what way

>>46328858
Nevermind ignore me, I'm hungry. I like it, and want thread opinions on it... don't trust OP when he's hungry

>>46328920
I was just looking for ways to improve it

>>46328939
Maybe add a ghostly flame to it? Spectral if you will?

>>46328950
Like, behind it? I went for the circle to emulate the fists' fist

>>46328984
Yea behind it, maybe even making up the circle, a ring of fire and all that?

>>46327653
I'm the anon who made the first, third and fourth one.
I decided to add green for three reasons:
1. It makes the scheme pop out more.
2. Many previous suggestions had green, I grew attached.
3. These guys exist: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Guardians_Exemplar

>>46329003
A good point, so we rolled the first and fourth schemes, as you are the artist of both, have a preference?

>>46329054
Not him, but I'm partial to green head regardless

>>46329054
I prefer the fourth one.
Also, artist is a big word. I just messed around with colors until I got something I liked.

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Let's put an eye on dat fist. Green flame (Think olympic torch)

And this could be a scorcher, pun intended

>>46329097
Why the hell not? Think you can put an eye in it>>46328984?

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>>46329231
I'll give it a shot

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>>46329774
>>46329231
>>46329097
>>46329000
I'm no artist, but something like this?

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>>46329994
Fuck damn it

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>>46330034
I like it!

>>46330109
Now we just need it more professional

>>46330034
>>46330155
Nice, now all we need is it colored and cleaned up really... Thanks alot anon!

>>46330190
>>46330109
While we're on a roll, we should decide color scheme for in and out of combat

>>46330259
Well we rolled for our 'color scheme' and in combat I imagine it depends on the enviroment of the world we are fighting in

In general I imagine the colors ar dulled and the camo stripes and patterns are painted onto the armor according to whatever enviroment the campaign is in

Unfourtanetly B&C does not have the capability to put patterns on armor

The camo should also still provide for a fair amount of ornamentation as we are not reasonable marines

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>>46330536
The army has its universal camo pattern

>>46330624
I could see them having a 'universal' camo that is the norm outside of parades... I don't know how we could show that without a Drawfag though

>>46330646
Guess that means we need to take it to the draw threads

>>46327421
What green did you use?

>>46330699
Green: #37822E
Gold: #F5D81D
White: #FFFFFF

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>>46330790
Just tried using the colors from>>46317762

>>46330866
It's kind of hard to tell since the shading is different

>>46330952
It's just a darker gold and more of a bone than a white

>>46330972
Very well, I like it.

>>46330664
Sounds like it... cross your fingers boys

OK lets move on from color now, that and emblem should be taken to the draw thread in hopes of our cries being answered

lets handle... well, at this point its really free form, feel free to writefag up events and special characters or whatever

As for the unified topic lets do... their most recent issue, when half the chapter triggered and opened fire on their brothers. Lets flesh that eevent it out as it is pretty important

>>46331079
Asides from that, I think we need to consolidate the canon for the wiki. Make things concise and make sure we include everything

>>46331156
Good idea. I can't do it right now though, anyone up for it?

>>46332832
I can try if you give me something specific to start with

>>46333533
Well for starters I think their founding needs to be addressed before anything else on the wiki, you know how the Alpha Legion founded them in the guise of the Fists? The hypno indoctrination and lies and plots? That needs to come across on the wiki page

>>46333752
He haven't talked much about the actual process of hypnoindoctrination itself. Is it worth discussing?

>>46334024
I would say yes, but I am personally not certain about the semantics of hypnosis, indoctrination and other such stuff... anyone with a grasp on that can spark the conversation though!

We know that Chaplains, being the ones who conduct the hypnosis and initiation rituals go through a march harsher process

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"My god, we're all tomatoes!"

Gonna continue my writefag in a bit

>>46336908
Good! Can't wait!

>>46335148
Big O X Attack of the Killer Tomatoes crossover when?

>>46334815
I know pretty much all marines undergo some sort of hynotherapy. I'll read some stuff from the Deathwatch RPG tomorrow.

>>46337723
Sounds good, I guess we'll hold off on that topic

>>46337723
cool, we can hold off till tomorrow

SO next topic while I writefag in the background we really need to flesh out our figure of legend. Now we know he was pretending to be a captain of the Imperial Fists third company, and I think like Dorn he should be featured often in their Iconography.

What was his false name? His real name? Other deeds? Is he truly dead or is he perhaps in the eye under his true colors? Possibly stalking the chapter, even making saint-like appearances now and again? All just suggestions

WELL, we are gonna have to hold up on that writefag from me. My sister needs my tablet for homework, so its gonna be a bit longer boys

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>>46331156
Copo pasto from previous threado

The ice World of Skaldi is a frozen deathworld, with no fucking atmosphere. In fact, anything short of a fucking power armored space marine is not going to survive in its Ultra-cold, frigid and lifeless landscape. Not to mention, the world experiences extreme snowstorms every decade or so that actually prevents spacecraft from landing en mass on the planet.

The only landmark of note on Skaldi is the Golden Spectre's Underground GOLDEN Fortress Monastery known as Borea that is buried beneath the ultra-hard ice.

Instead of burying their dead, the Golden Spectres strip them off their power armor and freeze them like ice statues in the Hall of Dawn, greeting any visitors to the chapter. For less-intact/unrecoverable space marine corpses, they are frozen and buried en mass in the Chapel Of Twilight

>>46333752
In that case, we can flesh in their alliance with House Malaspina as well.

>>46339332
Good idea

>>46330866
>>46327695
Personally, if I had to vote, the green helmet one is the best>>46327382

>>46340674
Ok, the colors discussion is REALLY in need of resolution so, lets just roll for it one more time

Someone give me a 1d5

Also, this will be the last thing I do before sleep

Rolled 5 (1d5)

>>46342383
Green helmet, please be

>>46342488
Nope, we got this one >>46327587
Unless the whole thread go's against this, these are our colors

If the whole thread is against it, we will roll again or decide via vote

>>46342524
Nawh, I'm alright with it

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>>46342600
>>46342524
I vote we keep this one for field operations, but with patterns, brush, mud and blood on it

>>46342911
I am absolutely ok with that, and this >>46327587
is their parade color...

I am partially agreeing to this because, if anyone remembers, I started all this for my own miniatures, and I'll go ahead and say white is kinda a bitch to paint well or at least so I have heard... So most of my models will be the brown version but with camo stripes and patterns and such in order to make it more interesting. Once I am more comfortable with my painting skills I will try my hand at the parade armor though

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>>46342997
Should the parade armor look like pic? Abbs and stuff

>>46343040
Hmmmm.... maybe. I certainly don't yet have the talent for that, but I could definitely see that fluff wise. I think it may just br up to the painter, same with their camo pattern

For the details like that I mean

>>46343096
In all fairness, there's maybe 350 of these guys around, so having fancy armor for the more veteran and special marines probably would be fine

Well, OP must now sleep

Don't let the thread die, have some conversation on fluff and hopefully add to it before I wake up all that good steeze

Alright, OP is now sleep

>>46343351
Nighty night. I'll work on the wiki

>>46343400

Ghillies suits for the scouts
and Camo Cloaks for the Space Marines

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>>46343551
>Camo Cloaks
Fuck, I completely forgot about those! Shit, dog, absolutely. Works way better than ghillie suits over articulated armor. Plus, they look pretty bitchin

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Why stop there?

We should put Camo nets on all Golden Spectre Vehicles

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>>46343596
No need for that.

Just use cameleoline paint on your armor, that way you blend into shadows.

Pic related do it in their novel.

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>>46343596
Golden Spectres Scout on tabletop

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>>46343596
The larger, faster vehicles have disruptive camo on them

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>>46343752
So the model would end up looking something like pic related?

>>46343752

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cameleoline

But I thought that shit is supposed to be fuckrare and woven into fabric (Which probably means we cannot arm the whole chapter with that shit, unless...

Cameleoline cloaks!?

>>46343787
Yeah but with more Camo and with the Golden Spectres colour scheme

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>>46343787
Something like this would be nice

>>46343805
Don't forget that these guys are a pretty small chapter who don't recruit all that often. They wouldn't need a lot of that shit

>>46343787
Basically.

>>46343805
They're a space marine chapter, the standard bolter for the standard battle brother is worth more than some worlds.

Hence, the Cameleoline cloaks

>>46343892
I've got no objection to this. I think its a pretty solid idea

>>46343921
We can also have go Predator-ish by having them 'collect trophies' from Worthy Opponents (Save for Chaos)

>>46344154
There's already somewhat of a precedent on that, having our chapter artifacts being blades made from native xenos

>>46344241
That is going a bit too far, don't you think? Making weapons from fallen Xenos is already borderline heresy. Making trophies is not (I am pretty much okay if they are just ornaments).

>>46344324
They're just glorified ornaments, something to hang in the chaptermaster's quarters

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>>46344324
I found this. While not official, its till kinda cool, though I'm still not sure about hersey

Who was our ally supposed to be?

>>46345123
Navigator Nobilis, I think. Specific house, the one with the traitor past. It's too late to try and remember stuff posted ITT

>>46345196
>>46345123
house malaspina

>>46345123
Catachans and Ork hunters.

For Navigators, it would be House Malaspina

Hammers of Dorn and the Black Templars would view the Golden Spectres with suspicion.

While the Imperial Fists, Fire Lords and Crimson Fists would be more open and accepting (Think Fraternity).

>>46345395
>Catachans
Still not sure about this. For the most part, I thought these guys treated non-fists with almost disdain, or at least complete disregard

>>46327587
>>46342524
Naw dawg, that one is pretty damn terrible, no offense. It's too convoluted.

I don't see why we don't just take >>46327421, like we decided before. We should not come back to the color scheme every time some schmuck brings it up.

>>46345498
Fuck that, we should just go for the first one we rolled and stick with it

>>46345419
Yeah but they don't know they are non-fists. If they are on the roll of Index Astates and are part of a founding, then yes, they will be treated as successors

>>46345528
I meant, the Spectres treated anyone who isn't a fist successor with disregard or dislike

Oonga boonga, where the plotpoints at?

>>46345525
Well, that would mean we use >>46327421, since we got that one the first time we rolled.

Any particular part you guys need fluffing out with writefaggotry?

My body of writefagging
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Death_Consuls_Writefaggotry

>>46345567
Doesn't mean that they can't 'respect' the likes of the catachans/Ork hunters.

They don't trust them but they can appreciate their handiwork.

>>46345620
>really like imperial fists and their successors
>live underground on a frozen hell hole
>are all about independent operations and staking out in the woods
>endangered, but never retreat
>unknowns in the galaxy
>allied with a rumored former traitor house who may or may not be keen to the true origins of the chapter and keep an eye on things
>Hypnoindoctrination done by Librarians on all marines during initiation
>certain stimuli can set these off, causing these guys to turn traitor, but pretty uncommon for this to occur, and no one in the chapter knows why it happens

>>46345655

Quoted from OP
'Well for starters I think their founding needs to be addressed before anything else on the wiki, you know how the Alpha Legion founded them in the guise of the Fists? The hypno indoctrination and lies and plots? That needs to come across on the wiki page'

Tying it in with their Eons-old alliance with House malaspina

And subsequently how they got reduced to 400 marines

>>46345701
>>endangered, but never retreat
short blurb about our yellow friends hunting Word bearers incoming.

>>46345632
This was the first one we rolled >>46330866
>>46327367

>>46345724
if no one else has a problem.

>>46345724
Fuck yeah!

>>46345724
Not to mention forcing aspiring initiates to survive in a Jungle Death World for a month, while being hunted by a squad of marines.

>>46345726
Second one is better imo, but let's just take one of those and roll with it.

Gathering some info on the hypnotherapy:

As the super-enhanced body grows, the recipient must learn how to use his new skills. Some of the implants, speci cally the Catalespean Node and Occulobe, can only function once correct hypnotherapy has been administered. Hypnotherapy is not always as effective as chemical treatment, but it can have substantial results. If a Space Marine can be taught how to control his own metabolism, his dependence on drugs is lessened. The process is undertaken in a machine called a hypnomat. Space Marines are placed in a state of hypnosis and subjected to visual and aural images in order to awaken their minds to their unconscious metabolic processes.
A Space Marine is more than a human with extraordinary powers. Just as their bodies receive nineteen separate implants, so their minds are altered to release the latent powers within. These mental powers are, if anything, more extraordinary than even the physical powers endowed by the implants. For example, a Space Marine can control his senses and nervous system to a remarkable degree, and can consequently endure pain that would kill a normal man. A Space Marine can also think and react at lightning speeds. Memory training is an important part of the indoctrination as well. Some Space Marines develop photographic memories. Space Marines vary in intelligence as do other men, and their individual mental abilities vary in degree.

>>46345796
Fuck me, good job!

That makes it real easy then. They're just subjected to certain extra auditory and pictorial stimuli as preordained by the Alpha legion

>>46345724

Oh yeah from the Older Threads,
their battle barge is a modified Ancient Victory Class Battleship rumored to date back to the Great Crusade.

The Golden Spectres would fortify locations in advance and try to either crush their opponent with overwhelming force or bait them (with their mobile detachments) to pre-determined and fortified kill zones.

basically, they are masters of Ambush/Hit and run.

Oh yeah and Their scouts are joined by their assault marines and act as saboteurs/sappers/recon/make-shift assassins

>>46345724

Dark Apostle Phoras Kaeron stood above the husk of the imperial shirne, his arcanum held high as the the icon bearer broke the aquila upon his knee and hoisted the eight pointed star. The captured civilians stared at him with bovine stupidity, too cowed by his magnificence to bow as the true gods claimed this town for their own. He searched intently among the crowd, looking for a particularly blessed individual to sacrifice.

The captive's eyes were downcast and they averted the gaze of the Dark Apostle. He prayed to the gods to give him a sign, so that he could make his auguries in the dead of night. The cursed spectres they had been chasing had vanished. The Dark council wanted their chapter dead and it had fallen to Coryphaus Torkil to lead them.

Phoras detested the oaf, always trying to understand more than his brain could handle, second guessing His auguries and blood trails. If the fool hadn't second guessed his reading yesterday, they would have captured the squad of they were hunting. He hated this strange leafy world, and would be glad when the gods had taken it for their own. Delivering a world to the gods would elevate him to a position of such power that he could barely control his lust. All he needed was a sign.

Any propositions for the name of their mighty battle barge?
>>46345904

>>46345933
The Unseen Blade?
The Shocking Grasp?
The Spectral Hand?

>>46345916

The gods had answered. A young man, deathly ill began coughing and retching. Phoras' eyes fell on the man, and decided it would make a good sacrifice. He ordered the aspiring champion herding to prisoners to sieze the man. Come nighfall, the wretched beast would be honored as it's innards were used to foretell the warband where their foes lay.

His demonic sentries were proving to be useless, the hounds kept barking at every rustle and movement in the undergrowth, convinced that the loyalists lay there, and yet patrols found no evidence. Even the Gal Vorbak couldn't sniff them out. Torkil wanted to leave, he believed that they were being drawn into an ambush.

Well it was the oaf's fault that they were here in the first place. If he had not interfered with the auguries in the first place, the loyalist's souls would now be offered to the gods. He knew they were a dying breed, and every one of them that fell was a victory for the dark gods.

When he would deliver the world and all remaining golden specters to the gods, they would surely bless him, and perhaps even make one of their own kind. Surely the sacrifice of a world and a chapter was enough to make Phoras mighty among the Word bearers.

All he had to do was weight for the night.

>>46346031
sorry about the typo

>>46346051
You are forgiven, my son.

>>46346028
How about
'Silent Thunder'?
'Vendetta'?
'Cry of the Emperor'?
'Hymns from the Fallen'?
'The Immortal Son'?

>>46346031
Night time came quickly enough. The man was led to the altar and the Coryphaus led the chants to honor the dark gods as the man was laid upon the altar dedicated to the corpse god. Even after so many millenia, it delighted him to pervert these shrines. The icon bearer cut the man's stomach open and Torkil moved up to chant alongside him.

Here the fool was, trying to read the auguries by his own. It was not his place and the gods would punish him. It wouldn't matter. He would soon know where the specters were and would offer up their souls to the gods. His time was coming closer, and closer

And closer. The specters were close, the augurs were clear, they were here. The specters were here the entire time. Then he saw a flashing light below the altar, Both he and Torkil lifted the altar up and saw underneath.

A cache of meltabombs, live and attached to a thin wire that was vibrating. The last thing Phoras heard was a ping, as the trigger activated.

>>46346135
>>46346135
Liking Immortal Son and Silent Thunder.

well here goes my story about the booby trap and poor little WB getting ganked with it.

>>46346149
Nice but we still need their origin story, how the Alpha Legion founded them in the guise of the Fists, the story behind the hypno indoctrination and lies and plots

and how they got reduced to 400 marines

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>>46346147
I say we christen their Battle barge/Victory-class Battleship,

'The Immortal Son'

>>46346178
If that pleases you.

>>46346176
tell me more about these two plot points, if you guys have any.

>>46346198

'Silent Thunder' could work as a Strike cruiser

>not naming the cruiser "Fortunate son."

cmon, guys Lighten up

>>46346201

According to OP, yeah we could flesh out ' their most recent issue, when half the chapter triggered and opened fire on their brothers. Lets flesh that eevent it out as it is pretty important'

>>46346233
I suggest a political divide between too much hypno therapy and too little.

Also, I really wanted to put a nasheed at the end of my blurb.

>>46346240

I say Chaos Dickery and let it happen while the Tyranids are noming the Chapter for maximum effect.

Just do it. By the way, we could always call a space frigate under their command, 'The Fortunate Son'

>>46346289
I really need to sleep anon.

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>>46346308
Make it happen (Either today or tomorrow, if you have the time)

>>46346289
Perhaps the trigger was given by a Chaos Lord who was just a squaddie back when the Spectres were founded.
Now that he's gained control of a warband, he decided to activate the sleeper chapter.

>>46346358

Traitorous Alpha Legionnaires? Let's say a renegade alpha legion commander went insane over spending centuries in the warp, decided to sell his soul and wants to gain favor among the Chaos Gods.

Thus, he decides to 'trigger' the sleepers in the chapter at the moment when they are most vulnerable.

When the Golden Spectres are battling the invasion of a Hive fleet on their doorsteps.

Sounds good, let's go with that.

two different incidents. One happens when the chapter runs into a bigger nid threat than expected.

The other is due to chaos shenanigans.


Also let me know how you liked my short story.

>>46346438

Pretty good fluffy material. Just another few more pounds of flesh and this thing will be gold

>>46346466
alright I add a couple of things and go to bed

>>46346140
The Possessed chaos marine is a force of nature. Unchained by it's masters it runs amok attacking both friend and foe as it attempts to slake it's bloodthirst

So it was when the possessed marines could no longer feel their master's lashes upon them. They fell upon their brothers and began the slaughter.
One group of them began running out of the village bounds and into the undergrowth, certain they had smelled the stench of loyalists. Their blood called to them, and the gal vorbak would devour their flesh whole.

The first one among them was neatly decapitated as it ran into an extremely thin spool of razor wire stretched between two trees. So fast was the demon possessed thing's speed that it kept running under it's own inertia.

The two others ran under the wire and began sniffing the air. There were shots being fired in the village, the sound of bolter fire tearing through the forest canopy.

The rearward possessed one began sniffing the ground, the stench of blood clearly attracting it. It was leading towards a discarded helmet and what looked like gore in it. The two possessed began fighting over their new prize. In their haste to obtain it, they didn't notice the click of a stalker bolter being cocked.

The sounds of the two fighters stopped after a single report was made. Scout A had killed two possessed marines with one single shot. He doubted anything could do it better. The rest of the scout squad saw a squad of chaos marines run outside, searching for the sniper. They walked right into the pressure plate without noticing their footing.

The scout squad was rewarded with an earth shattering explosion as the squad disappeared in a cloud of gore. Everything was going exactly like they had planned.

Sergeant B gave the order and they began the task of leading another squad outside the village. This was going to be a long night.

Let's call them.

Scout Abel
Sgt Bao

Heresy MkIIIs?

Morning brothers! Great job keeping conversation going while I slept! amd YOU
>>46346140
>>46345916
>>46346031
>>46346600
DAMN GOOD JOB!

I enjoy all that was discussed, including the cameleo cloaks and such

>>46348315
So who is going to fluff the origins of the Golden Spectre (Or are we just going to hint at it) ?

>>46348432
Well, I feel like we obviously need to keep alot of it vague. No one should know why the Alpha Legion did this or hqve any clue to their motivations.

The most fluffing I think we need to do is by fluffing out their figure of Legend, the Alpha Leigonnaire who posed as the Imperial fists third company captain, as he still features heavily in their Iconography as a sort of saint

>>46348528
We know he slew a daemon trying to undo their plans so far

>>46348528
Maybe some distinct visual features of the guy?
Like a scar or facial hair?

>>46348649
>>46348648
The Daaemon is one of the reasons WHY he is the figure of legend, but thats just what we rolled. He existed, what else did he do? More than one deed is needed in my opinion to become a figure of legend, especially to be remembered Millenia after you are gone

Distinct visual features is a good start, but lets begin with his armor and weapon. I say despite being a 'captain' he used only his bolter, showing his great prowess. I believe he should also have either worn a unique set of Beakie armor, or Heresy pattern

>>46348649

How about Tanned/Brown Southeast Asian skin? A pigtail or a mohawk? A star-like scar on his right eye.

>>46348649
>>46348649
Well, he has sharpened black teeth. I say he's missing an eye or an arm or both

Also, a nice beard would be cool

>>46348686
Why not Maximus? I like beaky, though. Maybe his armor was particularly gilded. Could be he was the first to use the modern Spectres strategies

>>46349407
Evil goatee?

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>>46349975
I was thinking something along this lines of this

>>46350133
I don't see why he wouldn't have a beard

>>46349473
Maybe yea, he was the one to introduce their now favoured tactics any mor ethoughts?

Well he still does not really have a name, suggestions? I realize it is a small detail but important nonetheless. After this we can move on to bigger stuff

>>46351242
Chenh Gyuvensa

>>46351884
>Gyuvensa
Not very Vietnamese sounding. I'd go with Giang if you wanted to keep the G

If no one minds, I can say that the chapter took losses from the nids because they tried engaging them in open battle against the wishes of their commanders.

>>46353193
Hmmmmmm.... maybe... not sure it fits their tenets ... I don't know up to you I suppose

But we already kknow why they are currently endangered is because half the chapter was triggered at a particular campaign... probably involving chaos

>>46353455
I see. Its a good thing you guys mentioned it now. That changes everything.

Chapter Master F stood on the dais as he watched the bodies being recovered by the survivors and the reinforcing companies of the __________ Chapter. There was a sense of poignancy now that the battle was over. In the centuries to come, the people of this world would raise a shrine to their heroes, the names of the fallen would be remembered with pride, and F would be called a the savior of _______.

He knew how the imperium functioned. A rotting mess collapsing upon itself and only hoisted by the action of it's heroes, both big and small. He watched with pride as the pitifully small remnant of IG forces that had fought alongside the GS were treated by their apothecaries while the __________ apothecaries tended to the injured GS. Their lives were fleeting, and they felt fear. But despite that the IG had stood by them, even when the orders to retreat had come in.

The old Colonel had chosen to make his stand with F, and though now he was dead, his memory would live on in the planet he had managed to save. He watched as Reclusiarch R's shattered helmet was recovered from underneath a massive carnifex. Another old soul, lost beyond all recovery. Morbidly, F thought that the sculptors in the sector would be well employed for years to come.

>>46353644
The sun was setting by the time the last bodies were recovered. The geneseed recovery would take another couple of days. Another couple of days when the perpetrators of this massacre went scot free. There could be no mistake, analyzing the scene over and over again in his mind, he picked up the moment when he had been betrayed. It was a plan many months in the making, and the plotters had baited him slowly and steadily. And even now he could do them no harm


It was a perfect plan. The GS were known to be the masters of drawing out and baiting the enemy, and the tyranids were easy to bait. For the last three years they had turned every part of this forested world into kill zones and fortresses and lured the tyranids in and reaped a toll that was as bloody as it was effective. He smiled as he remembered that F had led the GS to actually reverse the growth of the hive fleet when it was too overcome by it's wounds. It would have been the crowning glory of the GS, but then it happened.

He was too effective, the powers that be decided that the forces he was being supported by were too unnecessary for his prowess. They had withdrawn most of the supporting guard armies and left his chapter to die on this world. Only one IG regiment remained behind to support him. With so few troops the plan had collapsed under itself and the GS had to be reckless. On this day, expecting to die. they had assaulted the hive tendril and destroyed it. It was to be their last stand, and awash in adrenaline, it hadn't occurred to F that it was a trap. Only the timely reinforcement of the ______________ Chapter had saved what remained of his forces. Now, coming off the high of battle, he saw things more clearly.

>>46354014

His chapter was in ruins. Their victory had been too dear even for him. They had been stripped off their support and left to be eaten by the tyranids on a forsaken world. Fate might have saved the GS, but only just. He wondered how many centuries it would take for the chapter to recover from this blow. A couple of millenia at least. And their enemies were many. Too many.

For a moment F felt extremely weary. He wondered if it would have been better if they had died here, victorious and forever remembered. Everyone loved martyrs, not everyone loved cripples.

He saw the last of his marines boarding their transports. They were finally leaving this planet.
Before he left, he saw R's helmet poised atop his Crozious where he had fallen. That sight filled F with resolve. He had all the pieces of the puzzle. He would solve them and bring woe to those who had brought them this much pain.

It was all that the dead would want of him.

>>46353644
>>46354014
>>46354184
Good Job Tankbuster. We can assume this was a LONG while ago, as this is not the event that has them currently endangered

>>46355894
yeah. The chapter took a sucker punch and the captain realized that someone somewhere in the imperium wants them dead.
The tweest is it is a sleeper agent of the WB legion

>>46355931
A sleeper agent in a chapter of what may or may not be Sleeper Agents?

SLEEPER AGENT-CEPTION!!

>>46356023
no, I mean someone higher up in the imperium made a deal with the WB to finish the chapter in the name of chaos. F realizes that he has been hoodwinked and nearly lost his chapter in a banzai charge.

So he is now out to unmask the traitor while the WB move in to finish the job

>>46356068
Ah got it, cool

>>46346904
>Abel
Pretty normal name

Alright WELL

Any suggestions for what we should fluff next? Or shouls we focus on updating the wki before we keep continuing?

>>46358846
Focus on wiki, but I'm biased

>>46359288
Probably not a bad idea. I'll try to work on it tomorrow, to late for me tonight.

Other Anons here I encourage to help with the wiki, we have a lot of info and not nearly enough of it is on the wiki

>>46360415
It's all about putting it in a digestible form

>>46353644
Some Vietnamese names for ya

Nguyen
Chi-oh
Minh
Tranh
Phuong
Vien
Truc
Phuc
Dinh
Hung
Nhung

>>46361449
Sorry man,, you guys pick the names you want.

Rolled 6, 10 = 16 (2d11)

>>46361449
Dice will guide us to our fates

>>46361634
>>46361449
>Vien
>Hung

>>46361749
Nguyen means the 'original' in Vietnamese. Let it be the name of the Chapter Master.

>>46362159
>Chapter Master Bihn'Tu Nguyen-Guong, Slayer of the Last Suongia
already has a name

>>46362202
Nice so I am assuming all the companies' command structures are still intact?

1st company
2nd company etc?

>>46362467
Yes, but they're pretty insular and tend to have marines operate largely on their own, I think

>>46362513
Like the Iron snakes?

>>46363350
minus bronze spears and shields

>>46362513
Actually, I like the naming scheme for squads that they have. Could we do something similar? Like, each squad is named after a certain battlebrother, or what world the original members were particularly recruited from?

>>46363473

How about this,
For the First Company, 'Apexes'
For the Second Company, 'Infiltrators'
For the Third Company, 'Stalkers'
For the Forth Company, 'Trappers'
Fifth Company, 'Saboteurs'

We can name the Scout Companies,
'the Survivors of Tet'

So I assume that they depend heavily on Thunderhawks for rapid and deep insertion. Much of their 'cells' are autonomous, following the command of the most senior space marine.

Some companies will focus heavily on very light mobile forces, such as speeders, bikes and jump packs etc. While the others focus on fortification/the main assault.

>>46363473

We could use that to name the 'cells'/ops they take part in. Could be overly complicated though.

>>46364531
How about name of the world the first battles they took place in happened? For cells, anyways. This guy's >>46364251 companies works for me

>>46364576

How about An'ton-kin?

>>46364783
for what

Popping in quickly before sleep to say cudos for keeping the fluffing going! I will work on the wiki myself tomorrow, but don't let that stop anyone from helping

Ok, OP is now sleep, don't let the thread die

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>>46365164
4 or 8, man. Need that aesthetic

>>46365164
I say primarily Aquilas with a few beakies and heresy suits

>>46365242
>>46365237
>>46365164
cutting out 1-3, wanna roll for it?

>>46365304
Go 4 it

>>46365316
alright, I think 2d5 would cut it

Rolled 1 (1d5)

>>46365340

>>46365463
1 for maximus! which founding are we?

One more roll, depending

Rolled 2 (1d5)

>>46365619

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Check out what I got from the draw thread

>>46365785
Need flames...

But it’s a start

I you dumb faggots still hamming up the Vietnamese shit and calling companies cells?

>>46365850
Salty much?

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>>46365812
er, I made the fingers more straight and gave it a circle, since flames are a little out of my reach

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>>46365922
Something like that would be great

>>46365870
I'll take that as a snide yes.

In that case no, just disappointed in you.

>>46365971
Just a thicker circle?

>>46366048

Either a thicker circle (To Make it seem like the fingers are gripping the edge) or just enclose the fingers within the circle

Any more relics for the chapter?
Dreadnaughts?
Termies?
Special Chars?

hey, once you guys are done can you help the blokes in the Death Consuls' thread?

No but seriously how full retard did you people go?

>>46367027
Well I wrote a short story where some poor Word Bearers got ganked.

So dreadnaughts would be regular.

The Chapter is at less half-strength. So their number of Termies will reflect that (All Indom patterns)

>>46367027
We went all the way and never looked back.
Once the floodgates have been opened by OP

>>46367041
No, I mean with the fucking retarded Vietnam shit and absolutely brain dead terminology and norms within the chapter.

Basically mistakes and choices that tasteless neckbeards would make, but not ones that Alpha Legion sleeper agents would make. That essentially turns the chapter into your little flakes. Why? Because they would have been found out. These guys fucking SUCK at infiltrating the Fists. But you don't fucking care.

>>46367059
OP is a cancerous whoreson and you are lesser than dog shit for letting this idiocy continue.

These guys had such potential. You could have used Predator influences, made them a multicultural motley crew of special forces bad ass, you could have made them sadistic Trappers and relentless hunters. You could have included all three and avoided all this fucking STUPID Indochinese shit. I have nothing against that region, I've been there several times in my life and I want to retire to Thailand like my grandfather and his father before him.

But It. Does. Not. Work.

Not for these guys.

But you don't care about logic, do you? You just care about smearing cultural influences you think you understand on a Super Specul concept and getting away with it.

Don't even get me started on the absolutely disgusting paint schemes and the fucking Arab chapter insignia. A hand of Isha? Seriously? Unless you go multicultural, fucking keep it consistent you sodomite curs.

I hate what this is become and I hate all of you.

Not because you're idiots and the Golden Spectres are fucking retarded. No. Because they could have been unique and interesting, and subtly Alpha Legion.

Instead you've failed. You failed yourselves and the chapter. Leave Vasenica lest you taint that as well.

>>46367281
>But you don't fucking care.
no, I just wrote a cool story about sneaky space marines killing the command of a warband that was chasing them.

>>46367352
Whatever kid. Enjoy your plate of shit.

This is the grave you dug for yourself, you can bedazzle it however you want

>>46367387
I don't care. Its not my chapter. Thought it would be a pretty cools story to write and sharpen my skills.

>>46367281
Like you? Turning your Alpha Legion into Special Gary Stus? Multi-cultural?

You are just an Alpha Legion Fan Wanker, bugger off

>>46367446
I want to choke the life out of you, you cancerous dog. Defend your mistakes however you want. You ruined the Spectres with your bullshit.

I hate you with every fibre of my being.

>>46367281

Butthurt?

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>>46367281
>> Implying that the concept of independent 'cells' make up the entirety of the Alpha Legion
>> Implying that the Alpha Legion are the cohesive boogeymen that Kraven believes, ignoring the fact that they are splintered into many different warbands across the Galaxy
>> Implying that the Alpha Legion are as competent as he thinks they are (Proven wrong by fluff)
>> Implying that the Alpha Legion are not loyalist
>> Not reading the part where half of the chapter were 'triggered' and opened fire upon the other half
>> Ignoring the blatant Predator influences
>> Ignoring the sheer variety in Imperial Fist Successors (And if they are in the index Astates)...
>> Implying that All marines must be Anglo

Yeah, you are fucking retarded

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>>46367281
Didn't we tell you to fuck off two threads ago?
What kind of spoiled motherfucker do you have to be to get THIS mad wehen people don't change their fluff, just because you don't like it?

>>46365785
>>46365922
The only valid point that had was about the chapter symbol. He called it a Hand of Isha, which is believe is incorrect, since it's a Hamsa, but it is still a religious symbol from another part of the world.
I like the hand, but maybe we could put something other than an eye on it?

>>46368684

I suggested Purple/Green flames (Alpha hint) but Drawfag just couldnt do it (Sad day for the Imperium)

>>46369656
That's cool, but I meant replace the eye.

>>46369697

How about a candle flame instead of an iris. Will that work?

>>46369847
Sure!

Hello thread! OP is back! Being called names by a particular faggot aside, I'm going to break a cardinal sin and respond to him personally

>>46367281
Well, you are cdrtainly passionate about YOUR opinion of what these guys should be. Its nice to know how great YOUR ideas are. But... I do have a question... are these YOUR creation or the COMMUNITIES creation? And I think this is where your entire arguement breaks down Anon

This is not a chapter being made by 1 /fa/tg/uy/ trying to wank all indo chinese, this was a decision by virtually EVERY OTHER anon or namefag who has been in the thread. You appear to be the only one who hates them for having a culture.

And as varied as the fists succesors are I really don't understand why the fact an Indo-chinese origin makes them unable to be fist succesors? The worlds of the Imperium are many and varied, and alot of the cultures obviously pull from real life people and cultures, so why shouldn't ours? Also what do you mean snowflakes? Giving them a culture based on the real world makes them snowflakes?

So.... you know... thanks for stopping by Anon!

>>46370023
>>46365922

Great, OP is back
We need to work on the emblem tho. Replacing that iris with a Candle Flame

>>46370191
Alright, that works for me

Hope we can get a drawffag on it

>>46370214
Oh shit, thread hit bump limit

>>46370501
WOOPS! One moment, making a new thread. I'll use our no outdated chapter badge

this>>46365922as the OP image

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>>46370534
Wait, I just got this from the draw thread. I know it's changed a little, but I'm perfectly fine if this is it

New thread
>>46370555

Archive dis one pls?

>>46370554
OH COOL!

... already made thread though... just migrate it over there plesas anon