>>46550137
I vote to just confirm we are going and nothing else.

>>46550137
1.
Liza is right in a way. We need to be more unified to respond to the threats of the city. That said a total merger with her in "command." Seems like spoiling for trouble.

2. I'll be there

>>46550137
> “I think she is right. Maybe this isn’t such a bad thing, Ayla?”
> Respond to Liza. (Write-in.)
Count me in.

A more autocratic leadership does indeed help when dealing with emergencies

>>46550137
>“Don’t worry about it, I’m not going. This isn’t my business.
>"don't think this would be right for me"
I want us to join Ayla's small guild she'll form after the merge

>>46550137
Confirm we're going, but don't take a position. Just listen and gather information.

>>46550252
I actually want to know what would be expected of us as an officer before committing to anything. Like I'd rather keep adventuring and shit rather than deal with politics

>>46550137
>>> “I think she is right. Maybe this isn’t such a bad thing, Ayla?”

>>46550137
Ask Ayla if she will stay with the guild after the merger

>>46550578
She just said she wouldn't not even like two minutes ago ic

>>46550669
Fuck, my bad. I was half asleep at the end of the last thread.

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> [[ Fan Works: Artifact Ideas / Quest Notes ]]
https://titanpad.com/kZOMVYSrMv

“I mean, she’s sort of right…” You begin.

“I knew it!” Ayla says. “I can’t believe you’re just going to let her use you like this—“

“Woah, woah! Let me finish!” You tilt your head, giving her an incredulous look. “She’s right in a way. We could use a little bit more unification, and proper leadership would certainly help us deal with emergencies in the future.”

“But?”

“But a total merger with her in ‘command’ seems like trouble down the line.” You say. “Plus, I’m not even sure any of this is my business. I’ll go, but I’m not taking sides.”

“Well, you don’t have long to wait if you’re planning on going. I’m heading to their barracks now.” She rises with a sigh, and exits in a hurry. “See you there.”

> [[ UI Messenger – Crimson Guardian Liza ]]
> [[ Ascheritte ]]: I’ll be there.
> [[ Crimson Guardian Liza ]]: We’ll be at the guild hall. One of the Legionnaires will let you in.

You kick your feet back with a sigh, tilting backwards in your chair. Strife Memoriam vibrates gently as you clasp your hands behind your head. Looks like you’re doing this thing now.
If you had anything else you wanted to take care of, you should probably knock it out quick.

> Write-in.

>>46551017
Can't think of anything else to do so might as well go.

>>46551017
Nah lets go

>>46551017
Sell off any of the gear and shit we aren't going to use and make sure our equipment is fully repaired.

>>46551017
Ask tats if she wants to come, this meeting will be a prime target for a freakshow attack. Plus it's a kinda major event so she might want to be there for it.

>>46551152
She logged out already


>>46551017
Check on how to operate strife Memoriam, odds are we will need it shortly.

>>46551017
oh yeah see how our artifact works too

>>46551173
I don't see why you think she logged out, she just went to do her own thing when we were at the tavern. Probably getting that longcoat fixed somewhere.

>>46551017
bso is kill

>>46552428
This update's taken a mad long time as I had to take a few minutes out due to some severe allergy problems.

BSO threads day after day, this is pretty great!

>>46552560
>allergy
ooh, I've had my fair share of those. Seasonal?

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> [[ Crimson Guardians – Guild Hall ]]
> [[ Guild Leader: Liza ]]
> [[ Guild Officers: Kainzo, Mendicant, Florica ]]
> [[ “ Glory Is Forever ” ]]

The Crimson Guardians’ guild hall is an opulent barracks that towers over the buildings adjacent, and you waste no time making your way in. You make your way to the top of the short staircase outside and knock on the door; the same man you met last time you were here seems to recognize you, nodding and allowing you passage inside.

> [[ Guild Hall: Crimson Guardians // Crimson Guardians' Territory // PVP Disabled ]]

Well, at least PVP is off.

Down the hall to your left, there’s a room that looks like an armory, stashed with more weapons than you remember. Target dummies and archery targets are in corners and on walls around the place; they seem to have added some new furniture, as well as a couple of projector screens to replace many of the maps that you remember.

The meeting room is fully staffed. Liza stands at the podium, and closest to her at the table are her three officers. At one side, an armored man you’ve not yet met—likely Sven, the leader of the Disposable Heroes—alongside Andor and another woman. And across from them, Ayla and Dorian.

“Ascheritte.” Liza says. “Welcome.”

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>>46552725
“I figured he’d have been later.” Kainzo says.

“Was that necessary?” Ayla asks.

“Whatever the case, it’s quite enough. I’d really like to get all of this sorted out so I know where we stand.” Sven says. “Liza, by all means. Do continue.”

“Right.” Liza says. “I’m sure we’re all aware of the upcoming consequences of Freakshow’s edict. Averron is at peace for now—but unless something changes, war will erupt. Anaximander now leads from the shadows, and this is part of his game.”

“What do you plan to do about it, Liza?” Andor asks.

“In short? Remove them.” Liza shrugs. “I’ve got a plan, of course, but it’s one that requires proper leadership to enact. We need control of Averron, and even as members of the prestigious Alliance, control is something we currently lack. The purpose of this meeting is to discuss the terms under which our guilds will be joined to form the Alliance proper.”

“We’ve already discussed it with our members.” Sven says. “The majority of the higher-level Identified are eager to come along, and I’ve got a list of names available if additional screening is necessary. I’m assuming you don’t want Nameless?”

“It goes without saying.” Florica folds her arms, giving a smug grin. “They can’t be trusted, and can’t offer the same abilities as we can.”

"Doesn't seem entirely fair." Andor responds. "There -are- plenty of good Nameless amidst our ranks."

"Celestial Artifacts are kind of a game changer, dude." Mendicant shrugs.

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>>46552767
“Writ Keepers, what about you?” Liza asks. “Ayla, have you made up your mind?”

“Ayla will join your ranks, alongside any one of our members who wish to accompany her.” Dorian says. “And naturally, I will take over as the leader of the Writ Keepers. It’s most befitting of me, who has no place in these political matters.”

Ayla rolls her eyes before glancing over at you.

“Ascheritte, I’m allowing you to speak for the Guildless in this matter—and I’m not going to assume you’re interested in my offer just because you’ve elected to show up.” Liza says. “This might seem a bit much, but have you anything to say?”

> Write-in

>>46552786
united is good. United EXCEPT FOR NAMELESS is bad, very very bad.

>Seems alright to me, but as long as this alliance is not wholly indiscriminate, there's going to need to be a neutral party, so that people who are left out don't automatically join Freakshow
we should maintain the Observatory as a neutral territory, welcoming to Nameless and players alike. Might need to make alternatives to the arena that puts people on even footing, though.

>>46552786
I think alienating nameless further is the last thing we should do. Freakshow recruitment would go through the roof. Enough of the us vs. them mentality. I think we should treat the nameless like any other player unless they're freakshow members. Maybe even start pooling resources for an artifact that could return their UI and get rid of any justification for freakshow's existence.

>>46552786
Hrrm. I don't think being so discriminate to the Nameless is a good thing. The more we push them away, the more will more likely end up going against those that discriminate them.

>>46552786
The alliance is a good idea. Making every nameless our enemy isn't.

>>46552786
Excluding the Nameless creates an "Us versus them mentality" which will lead Freakshow's ranks swelling with Nameless as well as Identified who agree with their persecution of "elitism." Not even counting those who will kill either side happily for loot. That doesn't even count what happens if a Identified bites it from bad luck or betrayal. At that point it'd be giving them all the more reason to take what they know, both politically, information, and experience wise over. The Writ Keepers alone have VERY good role play oriented players who are dangerous and skilled. You need to MAJORLY rethink you approach. I'm saying this as a guy who got jumped by three Nameless with killing intent the moment I spawned. As it stands it looks like the Crimson Guardians are making an elitist powerplay to take the city and "cleanse" the nameless. That will lead to civil war on the level that make our previous debacle look tame.

>>46553050
I like this one

Things we can do
1. Let Nameless in (properly vouched for of course)
2. Liza not be the Leader, Nameless Do not like her, or the CG in general because they are the "haves" to the "have nots." She can have power and be the "enforcer" but unrivaled rule will be bad. Especially since it's common knowledge of her Grudge with Anaximander.
3. Kick out the Identified who enjoy torturing Nameless(you know who they are)
4. Work on a way to make Nameless's lots in life better, whether that be aid from Id'd, working on an artifact to res people, or etc.

>>46553050
Supporting to raise these points

>>46552786
Still alive QM?

>>46552786
RIP QM

>>46553465
>>46553603
Relax guys. It hasn't been that long.

Liza realizes she's basically making a Zombie battle yeah? The Nameless are infinite and grow faster than the Id'd. They're weaker but will keep coming back. Additionally one can create many more easily via killing. The Id'd are stronger but fewer and ripe for turning.

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“We can’t exclude the Nameless. It’ll only bolster Freakshow’s ranks, with Nameless who are sick of being hated on and Identified who agree they’re being persecuted.” You nod. “And then there’s the types Freya mentioned, who don’t even care who they kill.”

“Exactly.” Andor says.

“What this looks like from the outside is the Crimson Guardians making a power play to seize control of the city. It’ll lead to a civil war that’ll make our previous debacle look tame.” You suggest. “I think you should rethink your approach.”

“What are you suggesting?” Liza asks.

“There are dangerous and highly skilled Nameless out there—believe me, I got jumped by three of them with killer intent the moment I spawned. Things aren’t going to get better unless we work at it. We either let Nameless into the ranks of the Alliance under the same circumstances we let Identified in, or work on a way to solve their problems, be it Identified offering aid or contributing Gems to a way to restore their UIs.” You nod.

“I’m actually alright with that last idea.” Mendicant says. “As a first order of business for us, I mean—there’s got to be some way to do it. I’ve seen a lot of good people bite it, and if any group of people can amass enough Gems to make it possible, it’s the ones in this room.”

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>>46554029

“I’m not trying to criticize, Liza. But if you want to unite the city, you can’t go halfway.” Ayla says. She’s been looking a bit deadpan this whole time. “Anaximander has made you myopic.”

Liza sighs.

“The lot of you raise fair points. I’ll admit, I have acted rashly at times.” She responds. “Would anyone be sorely opposed to attempting to look upon the Nameless as equals, given the state of things? This could be a promising path to follow until we’re able to take more decisive action against Freakshow and their allies.”

“I’m against it.” Florica says.

“As am I,” The woman between Sven and Andor speaks up. “But I’ve got the feeling we’re now the unpopular opinion.”

“Working toward reidentification of the Nameless would be a noble cause, Ascheritte,” Kainzo begins, “But I was under the impression you’d want to spend the lot on improving the Observatory—if not for yourself.”

> Bring up the potential for the Observatory to serve as neutral territory.
> Ignore Kainzo, and continue posing solutions to the Nameless problem.

>>46554056
Write-ins are always an option.

>>46554056
>Kainzo if you have a problem with me challenge me to a duel in the Arena, otherwise stop insulting me and start thinking up solutions. I DO want to improve the observatory, but this take precedence. If a civil war happens everything goes to shit, especially with the Earthsea exiles watching and waiting for a moment of weakness to take us all out.
>Keep working on the Nameless Problem.

>>46554056
>Bring up the potential for the Observatory to serve as neutral territory.
If there's to be any sort of hypothetical accord to be struck between any two parties, it must occur on neutral ground. The Observatory, apart from being a secondary base for the alliance, can be that point.

>>46554056
>> Bring up the potential for the Observatory to serve as neutral territory.
even supposing we found a way to reinstate Identifiers, we need to secure the means to disseminate the method and organize the process to make it as swift and fair as possible.

Besides, it looks like the Observatory needs credits and not gems right now. NPC guards and the like. It won't really compete.

>>46554056
> Bring up the potential for the Observatory to serve as neutral territory.

>>46554135
NO one will see it as neutral. Because it is a secondary base.

>>46554125
Supporting this with a little less open invitation to have our ass kicked.

"Petty grievances aside, we have a series of rapidly escalating problems on our hands. I'd like to think we're all better than putting our pride above what's at stake here.The Observatory is a marked asset, but this takes precedence. If a civil war happens everything goes to shit, especially with the Earthsea exiles watching and waiting for a moment of weakness to take us all out."

Thoughts?

>>46554245
Works but Arena would let him air out his anger without PK'ing us.

You guys really want freakshow to use our facilities to make weapons and equipment to wage war against the alliance?

>>46554276
I just don't think effectively sating "Come at me bro" is the good move politically here.

>>46554288
Better than having EVERY SINGLE Nameless join them in addition to SJW's who are Id'd so we couldn't police them ANYWAYS.


We're doing the right and moral things in addition to undercutting their political position.

What are the odds that our artifact will let us use Shades of Kjorikos from memory?

>>46554437
Depends upon if it uses our memories or records it as it sees the boss

>>46554437
low, but we can hope. We kinda lost all the plot related mementos and stuff, and the artifact is newly made with no upgrades.

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>>46552649
Yes, and they're SERIOUSLY impacting my turnaround time.

>>46554245
>>46554156
>>46554288
“Please. I’d like to think we’re all better than putting our pride above what’s at stake here. The Observatory is a marked asset, of course, but this takes precedence. If war breaks out, we’re all fucked—especially when we don’t know what the Earthsea exiles have planned.” You suggest. “Given a moment of weakness, they could flood in and wipe us all out.”

“You can’t count it out either, Kainzo.” Ayla says. “The Observatory wouldn’t necessarily be a bad pick—even if we find the ‘cure’ for the Nameless, we can’t distribute it swiftly and fairly without a neutral platform to do so.”

“However,” Florica says, “It gives Freakshow space to utilize the facilities against us, or hone their skills in the test chamber.”

“I said we’d strike decisively against them in time.” Liza says. “We have the power to forbid Freakshow from even entering the Observatory, if this is truly a concern of the highest order.”

“That doesn’t sound too bad.” Mendicant says. “Why haven’t we done that?”

“Hypothetically, allowing the Observatory to remain neutral lets us undermine their political position while still doing what’s technically ethically right.” You respond.

“I feel like you could take a little bit of wiggle room on that one.” He shrugs. “I think it’s important for us to remain at least a little bit ethically flexible.”

> “This can wait until later.” Bring up the matter of the Earthsea. Closing the seam could earn the Alliance some esteem.
> We’ve about reached an agreement. Suggest finalizing the Alliance under the condition that the Nameless and Identified are treated equally.
> Ask for further input from Ayla.
> Write-in.

>>46555152
>> Ask for further input from Ayla.
You've been incredibly quiet Ayla, What's your take on all this?

>>46555152
>> “This can wait until later.” Bring up the matter of the Earthsea. Closing the seam could earn the Alliance some esteem.

>>46555152
>SERIOUSLY impacting my turnaround
shit you aren't kidding.

If you can predict the effects an hour or so ahead of time, regular anti-histamines will work. But if the symptoms are in full swing, they won't do shit and you need to pull out corticosteroids or something. Not a good thing to regularly take for weeks.

There's a bunch of lifestyle/diet shit you could try that MAY work, but explaining that would go well beyond BLOG and well into STALKER micromanaging your life.


> “This can wait until later.” Bring up the matter of the Earthsea. Closing the seam could earn the Alliance some esteem.
the trogs are reliant on bait and ambush tactics. Getting people in groups that have each other's backs will do well to rebuild solidarity.

At least, as long as they don't panic or backstab each other like blundering idiots.

>>46555152
> Ask for further input from Ayla.

>>46555152
> Ask for further input from Ayla.

>>46555299
I'm a prospective medical student and armchair nutritionist so I kind of know most of these things. I'm properly medicated as of now but they're out of control today for whatever reason and and anything that would help at this stage would knock me the fuck out which doesn't bode well for getting a whole lot more done in this thread.

Unfortunately I don't have any corticosteroids as of right now but I'm kind of wishing I did. I haven't been on them for ages and they do all sorts of horrible things to me when I'm on them for any amount of time, though.

Updating ASAP.

I don't see why everyone is so paranoid about Anaximander. He did literally nothing wrong

>>46555543
damn, that sucks. Here's hoping you figure out the cause and gut it like a fish!

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“Ayla, you’ve been awfully quiet over there. What’s your take on this?” You ask.

“To be perfectly honest? I don’t much care.” She responds. “Do what you want.”

“Liza lauded your intelligence.” Florica raises an eyebrow. “I was excited to meet another great crafter—honestly, I’d be embarrassed to have such little input at such an important time.”

“Fuck off, Crimson Witch.” Ayla hisses. “You know I never wanted us to merge. This isn’t going to accomplish anything but killing off all three of our guilds.”

“What are you talking about?” Dorian asks. “Ayla, this is a most excellent opportunity for you!”

“It’s fine,” Liza says. “We leaders are an unlikely group of people who’ve found ourselves in a difficult situation. It’s only natural that some of our feelings might change eventually. Ayla is free to go if she pleases.”

“C’mon, Ayla.” You suggest. “We’re just talking about all this right now.”

“I told you from the beginning I didn’t want a part of it.” Ayla says, rising from her seat. Dorian springs up at her side, looking shocked. “Do what you want—it’s your game.”

I’m really sorry, I’ve got to archive for tonight. I’ll run the rest of this thread if I’m feeling better tomorrow.

>>46556306
Can't say I didn't see this coming. I do agree this seems like a transparent power grab on Liza's part though.

>>46556306
Definitely saw this coming. And I can't say I blame her. I certainly would feel much the same as her given this situation.

>>46556306
So what's the actual concrete benefit to consolidating the guilds instead of just working together?

>>46556711
in theory, less infighting. No Guild Wars, at least.

it would allow more extreme budget allocation towards particular goals, but WHAT those goals are might be a bit vaguer due to the complexities of getting everyone to agree on something.

A "good guy" banner to unite under, to reaffirm that you are doing the "right" thing.

People from "your" guild are less likely to stab you in the back.

Ayla relinquishes leader status to Dorian

Then she stabs Liza with a max enhanced PVP dagger, steals the Wings, and commandeers the Excavator prototype to head for unknown frontiers.

>>46556799
>steals the Wings
artifacts are soulbound anon. they probably break like the identifiers do.

>>46556833
perfect

Salvages crap from the Wings and sticks them onto the prototype Excavator for Flying Drill Mode.

>>46556862
I doubt she get anything useful. Probably shatter into dust.

>>46557065
....I'm wasn't exactly serious, anon.

Before Ayla leaves how about we say wait we have an idea.


Table the Merger discussion(for now anyways since Liza and co need to retool it BADLY) and we send out a call to hunt the Earthsea exiles and find their source. From there a combined force of all the guild, Id'd and Nameless will assemble to seal the seam with Averron's full might.

Fuck, missed last session because it started after I was asleep, and missed this one because when I saw the tweet it said it was thread #23 and I remembered that being the number of the thread I missed.

>>46560075
well not AS much happened this thread.

guessing you're the one who missed the vote, did you have any particular preference for a different CA?

>>46560084
Yeah, I was the chap lamenting in the titadpad.
I dunno, finally resolving the whole issue and moving on is objectively for the best even if I did prefer something else. I guess I'm just mostly ticked that after everything I missed the final vote for it all.

>>46560097
I was caught off guard too by the sudden vote. Pretty anti-climactic, that one.

>>46560112
>Pretty anti-climactic
Yeah, that's certainly one way to put it. Wasn't particularly premeditated, just a 'whaddya know, I'm at an altar, may as well get a celestial artifact whilst I'm here, ain't no big'.

I'd have rather saved up for something else too, not a fan of taking the cheapest options in games in general, and I preferred the other two to copycat powers.

>>46560134
My favorites were
>Healing
>Strife Memoriam
>Tame Obsidian Pegasus
so I'm pretty cool with how things turned out. Not really fussing over initial costs when the upgrades are probably going to be much more important.

>>46560185
Initial costs are often a good indicator of potential too, but enh. At least now that a decision's been made we can just dump future CGs into it and stop worrying about alternatives.

>>46560234
I'll only worry about initial costs if the build leans towards getting as many unupgraded CAs as possible and tossing a few gems here and there to lower commit costs.

>>46560234
Yeah, I hate how thirsty anons were for a CA and how they basically wanted watered down copies of extant abilities. I'd rather have gotten some unique.

>>46561019
Yeah, I mean, good things come to those who wait afterall.

>>46561019
Hey, Blue Mage is a really fun class to play as, if not necessarily the most powerful. I wasn't really for Strife Memoriam either, and I missed the vote myself, but I trust Syl enough as a writer that the choice will probably make the quest more enjoyable in the end.

Or you could go with vehemently refusing to go with the flow and lamenting over what could've been, but that'd kinda just implant a bad vibe in the threads while accomplishing shit. Seems to be popular in most quests.

>>46561029
Yeah, I mean the there is a reason the Pegasus summoner and time trinket were both high cost. They haves us a lot of power.


>>46561058
Blue Mage is alright, but when we're getting the lesser versions of an ability instead of even a copy that stretches it.
Regardless, that's over and done. I'm just complaining to bump thread and to point out how fucking impulsive everyone is. Like seriously we're so ADD we're shooting ourselves in the foot.

>>46561058
>lamenting over what could've been
Nah, I've already said that I'm content enough to just move on, I'm not going to be pouring misery into every future thread that I didn't get my way.

I just want to mope about it for a bit in this one.

>>46561151
Bro I know the feel

Bump

>>46563600
....dude, thread's over. If you want to bump with your moping that's fine, but why bump without even that?

>>46563665
See
>>46556306
> I’ll run the rest of this thread if I’m feeling better tomorrow

timefags btfo

>>46564548
still a stronger ability given it cost so much it went over starter prices.

>>46567611
Not necessarily. Time is a tier one element and difficult to control. So I makes sense that a time artifact would be stupidly expensive.

>>46567681
True but it'd also be rare and hard to counter, which reflects it high costs as well.

>>46567818
It'd also be super uninteresting to use in my opinion

>>46567854
Like "getting water down copied abilities of other classes" isn't? At least time is something new in the game.

>>46567930
I don't think you understand our artifact at all. But you might be right, we'll just have to see it in action.

>>46568024
>I don't think you understand our artifact at all
Different guy, but that's how I understand how it works from a mechanical standpoint too.

>>46568328
>>46568024
>>46567930
I thought it was 'Summon copies of people|mobs to fight with us'

then again, i dont pay much attention and do nothing but lurk

>>46568759
Nope, Sylvetica said it wasn't. We don't get summons we just get lesser copies of abilities of foes we've beaten.

>>46568905
You're being intentionally negative about it. This artifact gives us the maximum amount of varied uses for a single artifact and as we progress through the game and beat stronger enemies the abilities given by the artifact will be stronger without even needing to spend more gems on it.

>>46569126
Unless you need to upgrade it for it to be able to steal stronger enemy's abilities.
It also sounds like it has a limit on the number of abilities that can be stored, again, something that needs more gems to improve.

And, at the end of the day, any ability we can take is one that we were able to overcome ourselves - meaning that other people could too.

>>46569208
It gives us access to countless unique abilities that no other player could ever have. But I'll say it again, we'll have to actually see how it works before we start complaining about it or praising it

>>46569293
>It gives us access to countless unique abilities that no other player could ever have.

What is a Celestial Artifact? Seriously all of them, even the most basic, do that.

>>46569327
No. Most artifacts give the user access to a single unique ability.

>>46569563
>Paintbrush
Attacks, defend from a variety of ranges in a variety of styles.
>That eye
Gave her super scan, improved mental cognition, faster reflexes, and a way to predict movement.


You're wrong anon.

>>46569713
Sorry, I meant starter artifacts. Those have clearly been upgraded a lot.

>>46570080
You really think we're going to able to store more than one enemy without an upgrade? Cute.

>>46570221
Maybe? We'll have to find out. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works. No need to get all upset.

>>46570610
Not upset, Just pointing out flaws and assumption on our "super awesome only 4 cg to break game Ca." It's good but it's not the end all be all some people are claiming it to be.

>>46570757
You're making assumptions too though anon

>>46570846
With the exception of the artifact letting us store and use every ability we see, not really. And that's a fairly safe assumption we won't start of with that.

>>46570757
>it's not the end all be all
and the other artifacts are? Focusing so much on initial cost and treating THAT as the end all be all is what's confusing me.

>>46572699
You're arguing with a different anon now. I started in at "This is great because X." I do like the timepiece because it adds something new. It's not foolproof by any means, and a higher tier CA will likely beat it.

>>46572868
ah. I figured that Memoriam would just give us something new to play around with every few threads, a "soup of the day" approach to fighting.

Whereas timepiece would require constant exploration into how the time powers apply both in and out of combat. Like maybe the starter level basically bumps up the rate that haste triggers and its maximum attack speed buff.

>>46573344
I t depends on who we fight, how many we can hold, if it's restricted to the class based abilities(since we likely won't be breathing fire), and other things.


Timepiece was likely going to be increase attack speed, and slow our enemies a bit, maybe have a move timer reset. Of course with upgrades you get some really NASTY effects, like stop, rewind, king crimson and the like.

>>46573443
> king crimson
How does it work?

>>46573689
Oh you

>>46573689
If you're not trolling It basically causes a causality glitch.


Steps A>B>C?
with king crimson it's
A>C

Is t causes the interevening time to happen successfully without the time in between actually happening. Say the guy you want to stab is behind a disintegration field?
A. Charge
B. Go through field(die)
C. Stab him

it'd skip B but still have the positive effects happen.

>>46573866
....what's funny is that's actually EASIER to do than time rewind.

>>46574116
It is, but they are to different things. KC is basically Autosuccess no matter how risky, But it can fall to trap, like the guy you stabbed was a pile of bombs. Boom gg no re.


Rewind is, "I'm dead or dying, fuck that noise redo"

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>thread alive
you guys are insane

>>46556306

“Hold on.” You rise, and heads turn your way. Ayla stops, already halfway to the door.

“What?” She responds, locking a foot ahead of her with her hands on her hips.

“I don’t see why you’re running so soon. The whole merger needs to be shelved for now anyway.” You fold your arms.

“Kid’s right.” Sven says. “No offense, Liza, but we’re gonna crash and burn if we try to start from here. If we’re working the Nameless into our plan now, I think you’ll want to dial it back and start over. All in favor?”

You and the three members of Disposable Heroes raise their hands, as does Mendicant—prompting glares in his direction from both Kainzo and Florica.

“I’m assuming you have somewhere else you want us to turn our attention in the meantime?” Liza asks, making eye contact with you while Ayla waits expectantly.

> “The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”
> “Freakshow. If you want to make a decisive strike, we’ll assemble a force and do it now instead of dirtying the Alliance’s name.”
> “The Excavator. Starting a public effort along that avenue will keep the city’s minds on a common goal and stop a potential war.”
> Write-in.

>>46576353
>> “The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”

>>46576353
Welcome back you mad bastard
> “The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”

Note: We could go the log horizon route and form a council with appointed positions. e.g. Riza does not really actually give a damn about anything but fighting, so having her be in charge of the joint armed forces of the guilds to secure the place would do all she wants the guild mergers for, without the bad side of the guild mergers. Shit gets done faster, everyone keeps their identities, and its easier to implement.

If she argues its faster to just have 1 head, note that even if she was the head, we would still be having these meetings anyway, so its kind of redundant.

Other positions can be made as neccesary and we can drag in reps from the nameless to blunt freakshows political ammo.

>>46564385
cheers to you, anon, I wasn't holding out hope when Syl mentioned that.

>>46576353
>“The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”
need to build up solidarity. From there, it's a tossup.

Excavator would be a good symbol to rally around, but it's also a prime target for Freakshow to sabotage, so it might be better to keep it out of the limelight.

>>46576353
>“The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”

>>46576353
> “The Earthsea exiles. We can send out a call through the Observatory and bring the united might of Averron upon them.”

Another thought:

We might not be able to get the UI's back, but we can still issue something like an ID card that reacts to the one holding it, to show their status and name and such. If we can get that, the having the cards display unique information, e.g. guild affiliation, arbatery titles and ranks, etc, would also be useful. Have them free distribution, and required to enter the observatory restricted areas for the nameless.

Its not perfect, but its giving a name to the nameless. Wede need to wish for an ID card machine to produce it all.

>>46576686
Yes all those muslims need special ID and it must visible at all times

>>46576686
That probably only takes credits and artificiers, if it comes to that. Guild cards are pretty snazzy, and harder to steal than pins or emblems.

As for Freakshow assassinating people and impersonating them using those cards, well that only puts Freakshow in a worse light and prime to be purged.

>>46576686
>>46576762
I was assuming that both Identified AND Nameless need IDs, at least in places like the Observatory.

We can even make it silly by piling on stupid titles and descriptions, or letting people have fun with really intricate guild symbols.

>>46576762
what part of restricted areas didnt you catch?
e.g. guild hall areas, the comms room, etc.

No one wants to deal with getting the machine stuff again because some bum fuck blew it up.

>>46576806
What ever works, Either way people need to be accountable to some degree, and not totally cut off and abandoned because they died.

So has anyone else noticed that when Syl switches trips that the way time accelerates or decelerates in game changes?

>>46576878
Really? Huh

>>46576878
are you fucking serious!?

>>46576878
No fucking way

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“I do.”

“And where would that be?” Liza asks.

“There’s the matter of the Earthsea exiles. That problem isn’t going to get a whole lot better unless their source is found—they’re populating the hunting grounds and killing players and monsters alike.” You respond.

“Do we know what the deal is with that?” Mendicant asks. “They can’t possibly be permanently changing the hunting landscape, can they?”

“From what we’ve seen, they already have.” Dorian says—he sounds upset for some reason. “Originally, we believed that monster spawns were unlimited and that their spawning locations were fixed. However, it seems to be more complicated than that—currently we postulate that the spawn rates are reactionary based on player population, hunting frequency, and environmental threats.”

“A lot of the newbies in our guild are complaining that they can’t find good farming spots.” The woman between Andor and Sven speaks up again. “The crawler populations nearby Averron have either dried up or retreated deeper into the underground—hell, I heard an entire cave of unique monsters got burned to the ground by a hunting party, and I’m not sure if anything has replaced it.”

“And it’s only going to get worse from here.” You push your chair in, maneuvering around it and using the back as a hand-rest, leaning forward across the table. “We send out a call to hunt the Exiles, through the Observatory. Nameless and Identified, guildless and guilded will assemble to find the source—the seam—and seal it.”

“Fall upon them with the full might of Averron.” Sven grins. “What’s your name again, kid?”

“Ascheritte.”

“Well, Ascheritte—I like that idea.”

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>>46577115

“Y’know,” You look over at Ayla. “We’re gonna need you.”

She shakes her head, looking a bit cross—but sits back down all the same.

“How do you know we’ll be able to find the source?” Florica asks.

> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.
> Suggest spending group funds on Prophecies.
> Write-in.

>>46576878
What's the other trip he uses?

>>46577169
>> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.
10k is too much

>>46577169
> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.
Get Ayla's Permission first. Try to get her to sperg out like the history geek she is.

>>46577169
>> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.
>>46577170
Sylvetica

>>46577169
> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.

> Suggest spending group funds on Prophecies.

We need at least a direction to go on unless we want to spend a very large amount of time and man power to just kill everything.

>>46577216
Agreed. No point flushing resources down the drain unless someone here is obscenely credit-rich.

>>46577169
> Inform the room of what knowledge you and Ayla have aggregated.

>>46576878
I dunno, there's like 4 archive pages worth of posts from him using that name, I sort of doubt they all correlate with a change in timescale.

>>46577381
From the archive each thread is either BSO or Sylvetica, it seems every time a change in time is noted the trip changes, notably from 14 to 15 when that guy left for errands and the gunner girl left to get a snack, his trip changed from Sylvetica to BSO. And it seems each game update also correlates to a change in trip and timeline if I'm not getting threads mixed up.

>>46577575
Right, I didn't think to check just by OP posts.

>>46577169
>Get Ayla's permission to aggregate knowledge
Low-key imply that Ayla leaving would be a pretty big blow to the alliance, even now. It's not just one player, but the drive for knowledge that she represents.

>>46577709
This is the wrong thread, right?

>>46577709
It has been a while since I last saw that pasta

>>46577761
archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/filename/ningyo%20hime.jpg/

>>46577761
Just a spammer dropping an old copy pasta

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“Ayla?” You ask. “Care to share what you know?”

“Lore-wise, these troglodytes are apparently protohumans that were cast out of a place called the Earthsea for an unknown crime.” Ayla says, not breaking eye contact with you. “And we don’t know what exactly is going to stop them—whether they desire justice or just need to be exterminated.”

“Oh?” Florica looks over smugly. “I thought you’d have been too salty to speak up after just a moment ago.”

“Ahem?” Andor asks. “Can we please continue? I haven’t had time to sift through all the shitposting on the forums and I’d like to hear what they have to say.”

“They were first seen in the magma chamber, near one of the popular mining sites deep below.” You add. “Something—perhaps an overzealous explorer—released them by breaking open what the fortune teller refers to as a ‘seam’. I’m guessing whatever it is, it’s near there.”

“I can see why you want to unite the city.” Kainzo says. “It’s going to take an appreciable amount of manpower to cut a path all the way down there, player skill and level aside.”

“It’s worse than even you think.” Ayla nods. “The troglodytes involve themselves in guerilla warfare, utilizing the environment to their advantage, wielding weapons, and setting traps using ore veins, treasure chests, or player corpses.”

“Sounds great. What else do we know?” Sven asks.

“There’s more, but it’s easy to get lost in the tiny details.” Ayla says. “We have yet to figure out what exactly the Earthsea is, and how it pertains to the cities, but there are theories.”

“And what’s the best way to find out more?” Sven leans forward over the table.

“We’re not sure.” You suggest. “I’d suggest just taking the fight downstairs and seeing what we find. According to the fortune teller, any further information is sealed behind the barrier of prophecy.”

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>>46578335

“Which means it’s a waste of money, I’m guessing?” Kainzo asks. “How much even are those?”

“I’m not sure, does anyone know?” Ayla asks.

“At the moment, I believe they’re ten thousand.” You respond.

“You guys can afford that, right?” The third Disposable Heroes officer asks again, looking at the assemblage of Crimson Guardians officers. “We need all the info we can get. What the hell is your problem?”

“Easy, Kala.” Sven places a hand on her shoulder. “Let ‘em explain.”

“It’s one thing to be able to afford it, but ten thousand isn’t negligible compared to our total funds, especially when it might turn out to just be useless information.” Mendicant says calmly. “The little fuck might well say ‘the key was inside you the whole time’ or something.”

“Well, what if we split it?” Sven asks. “I’ll chip in half. I want to know.”

“Count us in too.” Ayla says.

“But Ayla, our funds are—“ Dorian begins to speak.

“Don’t care, doing it anyway.” She responds. “What’s the plan?”

“I imagine between the three of you, you can handle a simple transaction without upsetting anyone.” Liza says. “If the fortune teller yields any information whatsoever, transcribe it exactly as said.”

“I was already planning on it.” Ayla says. “I’ve created a private board for the people in this room. I’ll post it there.”

“Ascheritte, since this was your idea, I believe it prudent for you to take the lead in making the announcement from the Observatory.” Liza continues. “You can do that whenever you like, and I'll accompany you if need be."

"We'll handle getting something out on the forums." Andor says. "Kala's a mod on one of the general boards."

"And I'll let the rest of the guild know." Sven says, operating a UI holo-screen. "Just changed the MOTD now."

"So what's left?" Kainzo asks.

> Write-in.

>>46578402
Did we ever figure out what those runes that we took a picture of were? Might bring that up.

>>46578402
I'd like to be present for the prophecy. For that much cash, it had better be a hell of a lightshow.

That aside, I think the sooner we get this rolling the better. Less time for more trogs to pour out of the breach means less headache. We should head to the observatory immediately to start recruiting once we get the info from the prophecy.

>>46578472
It's an archaic map. Of what, we don't know.

>>46578402
Liza could do some work on her public image. If she's going to be in any sort of position of power, maybe she should try helping in public, in noncombat roles.

Things like teaching noobs now that the hunting spots are gone anyway, or personally repairing damage/npc relations.

And if Freakshow wants to sabotage that, Liza needs to visibly prioritize protecting players rather than ending this once and for all.

>>46578477
I'd also like to be present for the prophecy

>>46578402
Show Ayla our pristine brand we picked up see if She (or Florica if she's not being a bitch) can figure anything out about it.

>>46578571
Yeah might as well.

>>46578402
How will the alliance deal with other cities? It's only a matter of time before we make contact more than just by video chat or radio.

>>46578571
Might help with the prophecy, which would be nice to be around when it happens.

That NPC is weird around us, and from the sounds of it from the other players, strangely very helpful. We've had several mention that the fortune teller is often unhelpful, but honestly she's been a boon to us. Possibly related to the hidden skill?

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“We take care of business.” You nod. “Liza, I’ll take care of it—but I want to be present for when the prophecy is revealed. For ten grand it’d better be a hell of a light show.”

“Fine.” Liza says. “You know how to reach me.”

“Ayla, Florica.” You produce the pristine brand from your inventory. “This is what I showed the fortune teller when I received the information about the Earthsea. Do you know anything about it?”

“Nothing more than we’ve already discussed.” Ayla says. “Sulya’s just been editing and editing that post about the symbol—she’s absolutely tireless, it’s practically an essay at this point. I’ll let you know if she comes to a conclusion.”

“Compared it to Kjorikos’s notes?” You ask.

“It doesn’t look like any of his runes, though the script is similar.” Ayla says, projecting the photograph onto the table. “So we’re still operating under the assumption that it’s a map…”

“It’s a map.” Florica says.

The conversation stalls.

“What makes you so confident?” Dorian asks.

“The lines in symbolic script you see in some places—such as the Observatory, and at the particular locations of this ‘rune’ you’ve discovered—are of uniform thickness.” She says. “But here, they vary in a manner that resembles that of a modern city map.”

“Sounds like a stretch.” Ayla responds.

“How about this—the symbol in the upper right quadrant of your photograph is present instead in the center of this brand. It suggests a point of orientation or origin.” Florica tilts her head.

“A ‘you-are-here’?” Mendicant asks.

“Still somewhat farfetched.” Ayla folds her arms.

“Girls, you’re both pretty.” Sven says, eliciting a glare from Kala. “Can we get this show on the road?”

A pause, before Ayla glances back at Florica. “…We’ll talk.”

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> Consider the major focal points of an announcement to galvanize Averron against the Exiles. (Write-in)

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>>46579296
Another bit of a break. We'll see how much further we can get tonight, considering we're still going strong.

>>46579296
Let's appeal to the standard MMO player mindset. There's three appealing things up for grabs here:
1) Possibly unique loot
2) A unique, one time raid experience
3) Glory for ID'd and Nameless alike.

>>46579393
I think we should point out how they ambush players in good farming spots

>>46579296
Announce a joint effort for EVERYONE to hunt down the Earthsea exiles to restore order and safe hunting grounds. Come to or near the Observatory for updates.

Publicly emphasize how safety is the priority for this joint effort, and that there is actually a finite number of mobs, but we are working on attacking the source to restore things to normalcy sooner.

So technically the loot being dropped is semi-unique.

Still thinking that we could maybe decrease taxes by 2-5% for the duration of this "event" as well. Not like people are earning a lot of credits with the lack of hunting zones.

>>46579296
Their whole goal is to kill players, nameless or otherwise, and to keep us from making any progress through the lower pathways. We need to stand together to face this threat. Something about showing these invaders the true strength of averron and forgetting our difference for the common good. Also a raid of this scale would be a really badass and fun event.

>>46579296
>These guys are a threat to Nameless and Id'd alike
>As long as they're out they will keep eating up farming spots
>They have rather interesting items
>they are trapping ALL resources and lootable things, this is both lethal and a pain in everyone's ass
>They'll eventually attack the Observatory and Averron, and we kinda all need those to be safe spots
>Lots of Exp in this and possibly Cgs for those that help close the seam, provided they don't die. Regardless loot and exp for everyone, and a chance to make your name to the NPCS.

>>46579296
We'll build a wall make the troglodytes pay for it!

>>46579296
They're tough little bastards due to their overwhelming numbers. They're not going to just go away unless we overwhelm them with our numbers. Also killing them is pretty fun, trust me.

So when are we gonna bone Tats?

>>46579710
Idk man, Ayla is into ERP. She might be best girl.

>>46579710
Dude Florica is clearly our first target.

>>46579747
>implying Aelriss isn't best girl
plebs

>>46579710
Have you noticed how she never logs out? I hope she doesn't die IRL.

>>46579710
I bet it's a boy irl

>>46579909
You could say that about anyone, it'd be safest if no romance happened in the game at all. Or does it even matter?

Still gone OP?

>>46579909
And this matters why?

Total qt.

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>>46580637
Was making a very late dinner.

I'm back now and writing (and eating) but I'm probably just going to save it for the next thread. It's going to be quite a bit and I'm not exactly sure how I want to run it.

You guys are absolute madmen for keeping this thread alive and I'd say I'm archiving but I did that yesterday. Thanks for the posts, everyone, and sorry if this thread has been a little underwhelming.

>>46580765
Thanks for running. I'll keep the tab open just in case you decide how to write it

>>46580765
Damn. Looking forward to our big speech.

>>46580765
See you next time, boss.

>>46580765
Thanks for running!

>wake up
>suddenly more thread
I think I'm basically just cursed to never catch this anymore or something

>>46583676
when it happens to me for a different quest, I just ask questions that are relatively relevant to long-term goals.

>>46583700
Aye, I'm just puzzled since I somehow always used to be present and now I seem to never be