Melisende was seeing off the Roman Prince, Manuel. The sight of the man made you bristle, you were no friend to the Greek nobility, and the sight of you brought an amused smile to the chest nut coloured man's face. He passed you with a chuckle, whether directed at you, something from the Queen, or at some private joke you couldn't say.

The Queen herself was dressed in blue cloth, her magnificent honey blonde hair tied back in twin braided plaits that hung over her shoulder, a silver belt about her waist. She hardly looked a mother of two, scarcely past thirty and slim. When she saw you she smiled.

"hugo," she called you by name, you doubted many other bastard-born could say the same, "Did you want something?" she held her hand towards the open flap of her tent, "Come inside, we can talk."

You could hardly refuse her, queen that she was, nor would you since she had so clearly read your mood. You went within the tent, the light cut out, the wide interior oddly gloomy. A hawk sat upon a stand, hooded and jessed, by a writing table. She had a real bed set up, framed and mattresses'd, and many chests no doubt filled with adornments. A pitcher of wine sat on her desk, with cups used. A shared drink with Prince Manuel, she now poured you a cup, her back to you as she fussed with the cups.

"Sit," she flapped a hand at a seat, and it was still warm from its previous occupant once you sat.

"Thanks, thank you, for seeing me," you said, leaning forward in you seat, hands clasped before you.

"I could hardly refuse my son's favourite playmate," she said, turning back to you with a smile that stole men's wits. She brought you a silver horn of wine, then took her own seat. "How can I help you?" she said, reclining back, finger tapping the arm of her chair. She did not drink.

> ask her advice on dealing with your brother
> ask to join her household
> write-in

>>48816727
> ask her advice on dealing with your brother

But i do say keep

> ask to join her household

To ask her later in the conversation. Dpeneding on what the Queen suggest-

>>48816727
> ask her advice on dealing with your brother
> ask to join her household

Pretty quiet tonight as of right now. Anyway, good to see you running HF. Been looking forward to it all last week.

>>48816976
Yeah, it's pretty dead. I'll give it a longer lead time than usual to see if it picks up.

>>48816727
> ask her advice on dealing with your brother

>>48816727
>> ask her advice on dealing with your brother

>>48816727
>> ask to join her household
Take Solomons advice

You guys took your sweet-ass time.

>>48817294
np desu senpai

"I could use some advice," you said, turning the drinking horn around in your hands.

"The fight with your brother?" you looked up to see a concerned smile on her face, "News travels fast in this camp," she said. You nodded. "What's brought two fine young men to blows when there are plenty of heathens around?" she asked, "I can guess, but I'd rather hear it from you."

You took a sip. You felt very much a boy in front of the queen. "A girl," you said, and waited for her laugh. It never came. You looked up to her again and her expression was tender, understanding. "There's a woman I wish to marry, but my brother has other plans," you said.

"Is it the convert?" she said. You nodded. "I thought as much. You've loved this girl for some time, haven't you?" you nodded. You felt struck dumb. She crossed her arms. "Love is a powerful, dangerous thing," she said, "And according to the church, it is the gift of God. But we must never confuse lust for love, or we are surely damned." Was this just lust gone wild, rather than love? No, you were certain that wasn't the case.

"What should I do?" you asked, "I love her, but my brother demands me to leave her. I'll not dishonour the woman I love, or the one I'm bound to by marriage. I'll not take a mistress and father bastards. For me it must be one or the other."

"You see things so cleanly," Melisende said, voice rich with amusement, "Either a thing is good or bad, black or white, honourable or dishonourable. It's a refreshingly simple view of the world. If only the world were so simple." She pursed her lips, eyes turning heavenward. When she brought them back down to you they seemed tired.

"I'll not speak on what is right or what is wrong for you. I will just say that I married for duty rather than love, that I put the kingdom before myself, to protect it, to strengthen it. And I think of what I have now, and what I endured to reach it. A dominating brute of a husband, a war of words in the court that near become a war in truth, plots and games and children. And now I sit the queen uncontested, commanding an army against Egypt. But my tale is not yet finished, the future may turn another corner and bring untold consequence upon my house."

"So are you saying I should do my duty, or what's right?" you asked, trying to decipher her meaning.

She sighed, stroking a golden braid. "Doing your duty and what is right, it's rarely the same thing," she said.

These weren't the simple answers you wanted, and maybe she saw that on your brow.

"I'll say that the law of the land commands you to follow the wishes of your brother," she said, "You are his squire, a junior in his household. But when have you or your brother given a damn about the law of the land?" That was true enough, you almost laughed at it but you had little good humour in you. "Was there something else you might ask me?" she said, her brow raising, her voice taken over by a light suspicion.

> no my lady
> I'd join your household
> write-in

>>48817593
> no my lady

>>48817593
> I'd join your household

Getting a bit away from Wil might be a little healthy for him. let him become his own man.

>>48817593
> I'd join your household

>>48817593
> no my lady

>>48817593
> I'd join your household

if only for a time maybe?

>>48817593
> I'd join your household

>>48817593
> I'd join your household

maybe like >>48817754 suggests and only for a bit

we Kingsguard now

Anyway I'm highly suspect about the whole Hugh incident thing since

>The attack failed without Hugh even knowing an attack occurred
>Hugh may be setting this up to pull some shit on us

stay cautious anons

You drank your wine before you spoke, the question was one hard to give out. A silence lingered between you and the queen, who sat waiting with patience.

"I'd join your household, if you'd have me," you said, words halted and mumbled.

Her expression was kind, but you knew her answer before she spoke. "You're just a squire, Hugo," she said, "A subject of your brother. If you should attain your knighthood however, ask again and my answer may change."

"I understand," you said, "Thank you."

She leaned forward from her chair, braids swinging gently, and placed a soft kiss on your brow. It brought a blush over you. "You are a fine young man," she said, sitting back, "If my own son grows to be half as good as you are, I would be proud."

You rose from your chair uncomfortably, ducking a quick bow. "Thank you, my lady," you said. You left the tent trying to hide your fluster and near knocked over your sister as she came in. You caught sight of a large purple bruise marring her face, but Mathilde didn't slow, she recovered quick from the bounce off your chest and circled 'round you to enter. "Mathilde," you heard the queen say as you left.

One-Eyed Bayard waited outside with the queen's guards. The man-at-arms gave you a friendly nod as you left, one you returned if a little more forced. The queen had not consoled you as you had hoped, nor had she taken you into her service to separate you from your problems. It seems there was no easy answer from this problem.

The day was fading and the smell of cooking meat came out with the first sight of the stars. A wet hunger took your mouth and your belly, you could surely stand to eat. Still, returning to your camp could draw further confrontation with your brother, mayhap you should dine with another camp tonight.

> dine with your friend Raymond of Tripoli
> dine with Count Elias, you owed him a debt
> return to your camp, do not put off your brother
> write-in

>>48818099
> return to your camp, do not put off your brother

>>48818099
> return to your camp, do not put off your brother

>>48818099
> dine with your friend Raymond of Tripoli

>do crazy bullshit
>earn spurs
>fuck off to Jerusalem

seems simple enough

>>48818099
>> dine with Count Elias, you owed him a debt

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>>48818099
> return to your camp, do not put off your brother
the Absolute Madman option is very tempting.

>>48818099
>> dine with Count Elias, you owed him a debt

He better not have laid his hand on her!

>>48818133
>>48818099
Know what. Chaning to

> dine with Count Elias, you owed him a debt

>>48818099
>"A subject of your brother. If you should attain your knighthood however, ask again and my answer may change."

I fucking said it last time. Hugo can do whatever the fuck he pleases once he earns his knight spurs. Will may be head of household but until Hugo becomes a free knight, he's gonna be a slave to big bro's plans.

What is up with this Elias obsession lately? He's a manipulative asshole. It's infuriating how much the players wanna suck his dick nowadays.

>>48818456
But he is so handsome, charming and dangerous!

We can change him!

>>48818099
>> return to your camp, do not put off your brother

Forgot to vote, d'oh!

Basically setup to tell him "I'll do what you want 'til I become a knight."

>>48818456
It is literally only with Mathilde, he's got Wil levels of Cha

besides Hugo will most likely punch in the face if he leaps to conclusions

>>48818465
Fuck mate what're you, a cockmongering pussyfaggot who'd sooner suck a Saracen cock?

>>48818456
It's anon faggotry of the highest order. Shit wasn't this bad before HF took a leave of absence.

>>48818456
Elias did nothing wrong.

>>48818497
Truth be told. Only really like that with Matty. With Wilhelm i prefer being skeptical and with Hugo it is almost downright hate.

I prefer to play the three MCs differently rather than just play them all as a selfinsert or Microsoft Excel.

I voted Elias here because i assume Hugo's distrust to Elias will cause him to believe he has a part in Matty's bruise.

>>48818099
>> dine with Count Elias, you owed him a debt

>>48818524
Same. I play the three siblings at cross-purposes.

Then again, I have found playing as Wil getting abit disquieting, lately.

>>48818456
I'm actually excited for when he makes a play with all the leeway we've given him and the players lament their extreme faggotry

>>48818571
what play?

>>48818456
see >>48818524

Wil, Matty and Hugo are people working to their own ends but also care for each other to varying degrees this can lead to both awesome and tragic conclusions such as Gailee and Sabeen

Count Elias had earned you a reprieve from the noose. He had taken up your cause and argued your case in front of the assembled lords of Jerusalem, the High Court. He had done this though the two of you were far from friends, indeed you had counted him a personal enemy. Perhaps you owed him a visit, and a thank you in person for his effort.

The Count of Maine was set up with the other foreign knights, Germans, Italians, French, as much mercenaries as holy crusaders. You knew very few people in this part of the war camp, indeed it seemed another world entirely compared to the domains of the Levantine lords. French was spoken freeely, of many dialects, you barely understand a handful of words that were flung back and forth, between soldiers, between the women that kept the camps. A snaggle toothed woman pinched at your backside as you passed, and the look you shot her brought guffaws of laughter from her and the other tired women with her.

Shaking your head, you came into the Maine camp. Soldiers eyed you suspiciously, an air of hostility pressing in around you. Perhaps you had made a mistake coming here.

Elias himself sat by the fire with a cup of wine and a smokey dark woman in his lap. She was beautiful, though plainly dressed, in brown peasant garb of rough spun linen. It did nothing to hide her form. The sight of you brought a smirk across Elias' well-jawed face, red stubble grown across his cheeks, his red hair grown long and curling around his neck.

"Look Dangerosa, the bastard has come to visit us," he spoke with a slur, the man was bordering on drunk.

"A handsome young bastard," Dangerosa said, which made Elias laugh.

"Perhaps I should give you to him, he takes everything else he wants, him and his brother," Elias went so far as to squeeze Dangerosa's breast, "Do you like her, Hugo? Take her if you want her."

"I came to thank you," you said, "For saving my life."

Mathilde POV was the worst thing that ever happened to this quest

"Thank me," Elias said, "Thank me. He thanks me, Dangerosa. He thanks me while his lord dishonours me." The cup dropped from his hand, the wine splashing across the fire. He pushed Dangerosa up as he stood. The man was bigger than you. "I did nothing for you, boy," he said, his feet unfirm beneath him, "And all I did has been dashed to pieces in one afternoon. Wilhelm, Wilhelm says one thing one day and a different thing the other." His expression grew haggard.

"I am not my brother," you said, "I don't know what my brother has done to upset you-"

"He's robbed me, robbed my family. And when I offer him friendship he spits on my hand," Elias staggered back, sat down hard, he either had too much drink or too much emotion to stand. Dangerosa massaged his shoulders, a pout on her lips.

"I don't know what you are talking about," but you could guess.

"You don't know anything," Elias sneered, "Donkey-brained fool."

> one more insult sir (grab your sword)
> ignore the insults

>>48818696
> one more insult sir (grab your sword)

>>48818696
> ignore the insults

>>48818696
>> ignore the insults
"Elias, WHAT HAPPENED."

>>48818696
>> ignore the insults

>>48818696
> one more insult sir (grab your sword)

Punch him in the face

>>48818696
>> ignore the insults
try to find out what happened. he still saved hugo's life.

>>48818696
Why the hell are you drunk at this hour man ?

>>48818696
>> ignore the insults

>>48818729
>>48818789
>eliasfags

>>48818809

Fuck off cunt. This man successfully fought Hugo's case to save his life.

Hugo, who would take a princess out away from her home to try and save her. Hes not going to just take offense and act on it from his savior.

>>48818839
I'd like to think Hugo is smart enough to realize he didn't do it out of the kindness of his heart

>>48818853
DOnt actually think Hugo knows why he did it.

>>48818853

Probably. Doesn't discount the fact that he would stay his fist and tongue more for elias after that performance.

>>48818696
> ignore the insults

>>48818696
> ignore the insults
He still saved us, let's not take the words of a drunk against him.

>>48818839
Hugo hates Wil's womanizing ways and Elias does way more of it. He's not gonna suck his dick like you wish he would

>>48818696
First thing he did when he found out that Mathilde wont be his through Wilhelm is getting smashed.

>>48818696
> ignore the insults

You twats clean forgot that Elias is more or less Will's counterpart, albeit more scummy and underhanded.

Fuck this guy and the honeyed words.

>>48818865
>>48818875
well he knows that Elias doesn't particularly like him because ''muh daddy hangups'' so thats kind of a thing

and the man is obviously kinda devestated

>>48818696
>>48818787
fuck it changing to
>Ignore the Insults
>resist urge to punch him in the face

Inb4 Hugo inspires Elias to do something really stupid

>>48818946
Like when the campaign is over he "kidnaps" mathilde back to France ?

Is it just me or is there more than one Dangerosa?

There's this one with Elias and then there's the other from when Raymond took Hugo to meet the Silk Road freaks.

HF, you got some explaining to do here mate.

>>48818968
It is possible for two people to have the same name.

You let the insults slide by. What did a jackanape's words mean to you? Nothing more than the shit from a horse.

"What happened, sir?" you asked. He glowered as if he planned murder.

"Your brother and I had discussed a marriage, between myself and your sister," he said, "An honourable match, no? I am of the House of Anjou, kin to kings and emperors, dukes, royalty. Count of Maine and all its riches, even if my brother does not want to admit it." He closed his eyes, massaged his temple, "A good husband for your sister. But then your brother, ignoble and thoughtless, pledges her to that stuttering oaf of Galilee, fat and uncouth Elinard. Lord of rocks and scorpions."

"My brother has been making many promises concerning marriage of late," you said. If you did not like Elias, and you did not, you felt a small twinge of empathy considering your shared situation.

A bowl of meat was handed to Elias by one of his men, with it a crust of bread. He ate quickly, using the bread to pool the stew into his mouth, ignoring the dribble of brown water down his chin.

"Sit," he said, "Eat." You did as he requested and a bowl was served to you.

"Is that why you saved me, to endear yourself to my brother?" you said, your hunger no longer so pressing. Still, you took a nibble.

"Fat lot of good it did," he said, "Be sure it was out of no love for you so do not mistake me."

"Elias, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire," you said. It brought a snort from the Count as he ate, dark humour in his light eyes. "I came to thank you, not pledge to you my love. I'd say I could speak with my brother on your behalf to repay the debt, but my brother and I aren't speaking right now."

>>48818968
it was a common name I believe

>>48818959
or y'know ups the ante in the marriage game so that will would seriously have to reconsider the promise he made to bures

something on par with Wil's Ascalon gambit maybe

"You are so simple I sometimes forget you aren't completely stupid," Elias set aside his empty bowl. "I have brothers of my own, back in Anjou, and sisters. A pack of scheming rodents. You know my brother Geoffrey is threatening to take my land? As if Anjou wasn't enough for him. Maine is mine, by Christ." His tongue seemed loosened by drink, wandering with his mind.

"Is this about your brother now, or mine?" you asked.

"Brothers," he spat, "You can't kill them." Then he looked to you, and you saw a thought creep into his mind. He leaned forward. "You say you owe me a debt, would you help me to repay it?"

You shifted uncomfortably. "I'll not pledge to help you blindly," you said, "Even if you spared me an execution."

"I want you help this midnight," he said, "To meet your sister. I want to, I must speak with her again, in private." That was not a comfortable request.

> help him
> don't

>>48819040
> don't
Fuck no. He must really think Hugo is a complete dumbass.

>>48819040
> help him

But nothing naughty. If he as much as lift up her dress we will cleave his face.

>>48819040
> other

"Tell me why you wish yo meet her."

>>48819073
There's no way you're actually this stupid

>>48819040
Elias I fookin swear if you so much as touch her so help me god

>>48819080
this

>>48819040
> don't

>>48819040
>> help him

>>48819040

"Elias, what do you intend to do. A night of passion that would besmirch her honour in lieu of admitting defeat to my brother? Are you just going to roll over like that?"

Jesus christ this quest is beyond saving from the eliasfags

>>48819040
Ask him what he intends to do, no lies. She has more duty in her to run away with him, and if he causes her harm he'll meet our sword, regardless of consequences.

>>48819149
Each sibling has a differing pov, wants and motivation. If you can't recognise that, you're not playing this quest well.

>>48819175
Hugo fucking hates this guy and he's not an idiot.

>>48819191
Just because he hates him doesn't mean he won't be cordial. He also owes a debt.

> help him

"Why?" you said, inherently mistrustful.

"I just want to talk to her," he said.

"You want to deflower her," you countered, and your accusation put grit in his teeth. You knew his way with women.

"I want to give her a choice!" he slammed his hand down onto his thigh. And what the hell did that mean?

> no
> okay

>>48819218
> okay

>>48819218
> no
He wants to get her to elope with him.

>>48819218
>> okay

>>48819218
> no

>>48819218

"Elias, that isn't the way. Not like this, not in a way that would dishonour her.

If it is to speak with her and try to figure out something together, I would go with you."

>>48819218
"Just talk"

>>48819218
>> okay

As long as he can observe.

>>48819218
''you talk, anymore and I will castrate you myself''

>>48819218
>no
oshit nigger now it's not just personal, you're asking me to be your wingman so you can fuck my sister wtf dude? he's clearly had too much to drink, and think

>>48819218
>> okay
But I will accompany you.

I hope you dumbfucks realize that this is complete betrayal of wilhelm

>>48819218
tentatively ok with this>>48819287

>>48819287
He's gonna use his high charisma to get her to elope anon. Fucking is the least of our worries.

So i want Mathilde to do her duty and be deflowered come her wedding night but also be star crossed lovers with Elias

wat do?

>>48819218
>no
I swear to Christ you assholes, don't make this retarded decision

>>48819423
Do what your heart tells you is right. No one else can instruct you on what to do.

No Brakes, Only Tragedy.

>>48819423
Elias is a piece of shit who was fucking horrendous to Wilhelm in Jerusalem, tried to hook up with Iovetta and made jokes about cuckolding his father and sleeping with every member of the Royal family. He is our enemy, and Hugo must not let this enemy in to visit our sister.
>No

>>48819218
>>48819287

This

>>48819426
It's too late anon. We're reaching levels of eliasfaggotry that shouldn't even be possible. I'm just ready to get back to the battle.

>>48819423
You have a short memory dumbass

>>48819484
It's been so fucking frustrating, ever since HF got back from the hiatus it's been terrible romantic decisions nonstop. They have to be one or two new players samefagging the vote

>>48819521
maggie and hugo are not wil. they will not want the same things.

>>48819218
>no

>>48819521
Why not move to /qst/? ID system should take care of that

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>>48819484
>>48819466
>>48819426
>All this salt

Jesus christ

It was not an easy answer, but you owed him your life.

"Alright," you said, "I'll help you with my sister, but you must behave honourably."

Elias' eyes shone with amusement. "There's no such thing as 'honour', boy, there is only living and dying," he said. He did not stand, instead he turned away, "I've got my answer, and with it your measure. See how he turns on his brother? Do you see?" he looked to his men, to the woman beside him, and their smiles were like a pack of wolves. You had a dread feeling that you had made a terrible mistake coming here, "Go away Hugo, I'll call on you another time, for another cause, or word of this promise you've made will reach your brother and strain the two of you forever."

You felt your throat close as if by a noose. What did he mean by this, what had you done?

"Get out, go," he dismissed you with a wave of his hand, "Begone from my sight with your false shield of honour." He took another cup of wine, draining it greedily. You stood up.

"My lord," you gave a stiff bow, but he wasn't listening, he was back in his cups. You walked away with anger bristling your skin. Let the battle come fast, you wanted to kill something.

> return to your camp
> write-in

>>48819538
Doesn't mean they are willing to fucking stab Wilhelm in the back and literally jump in bed with his enemies, his sister WAS a sweet girl before you started playing her as if she was a slut

>>48819557
HF, what the fuck, no won the vote

>>48819557
Hahahahahahaha oh fuck eliasfags btfo so fucking hard. I warned you dumbshits.

>>48819557
> return to your camp

>>48819568
In what way was she played a slut. She did not sleep around but flirted with a boy she fancied.

>>48819557
>>48819578
Railroad much?

>>48819557
That vote had to be samefagged. I refuse to believe our player base has become this retarded.

>>48819597
>>48819578
Because almost all the no votes came after the time had expired.

>>48819590
She's making out with an enemy of her brothers and leading him on while she is engaged to another.

>>48819557
>Doesn't mean they are willing to fucking stab Wilhelm in the back and literally jump in bed with his enemies,
>Enemies

If you think Elias is seriously our enemy at this point because of some slanderous gossip, you're pettier than fucking Blaise anon

>his sister WAS a sweet girl before you started playing her as if she was a slut

Jesus christ /r9k/ have you fucking READ half the shit mathildes done?

>>48819557
> write-in
Practice swordplay in the twilight, we ain't gonna get git gud otherwise

>>48819620
Did she sleep with him

>>48819614
Since when is there a time limit? HF this is bullshit and you know it

>>48819625
It can't be any more clear that he's our enemy after this post anon. Learn to fucking read.

>>48819637
There has always been a time limit.

>>48819625
You're a retard. Redhead the threads, or just fucking read them dumbshot. You should have done that before you started participating, you're fucking up the game.

this quest needs to just end already before it gets any worse. the decisions lately have been idiotic beyond belief.

>>48819643
Not true. Only for FD votes.
>>48819653
Sorry, I meant reread*

>>48819665
Forreal. I suspect HF is taking out his frustrations in the game somehow.

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>>48819557
INC MATHILDE MINDBREAK

>>48819684
>blaming HF instead of the players
you can't be serious

>>48819665
Replace idiotic with cancerous and you've more or less have it.

We're rapidly approaching Raian levels of player cancer from that aborted Three Kingdoms quest back in 2014.

Hugo just needs to tell Mathilde what Elias just did and the quest might yet be saved.

>>48819684
This is starting to remind me of Aspiring Emporer Quest, before it went down. All the characters are getting ruined and it feels like the Qm is playing against us

Though there does seem to be a portion of the player base determined to make every idiotic choice available and fuck up the game as much as possible

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>>48819557
>> write-in
Find Mattie. Speak to her.

>>48819557
>Go see Mathilde.

>>48819684
>>48819717
It's not HF, it's the players. Every single time there's a vote that is either a) do what makes sense, or b) fuck up the game people have been voting to duck up the game.

It's to the point that I'm afraid to vote to play anybody but Wilhelm because I know Anons will ruin everything

>>48819557
> write-in

Find Matty tell her about the plan, Jesus christ hopefully this will shut you faggots up

Please, everybody just step back and take a breather. Take a second, get a drink or something.

I don't appreciate you guys attacking each other.

I'm honestly sorry about the 'no' vote, there were a lot of write-ins following a similar theme, if the 'no' votes really did win out over those write-ins that's my bad. Just don't start savaging each other, it drains the fun out of this game for everyone.

>>48819769
I reserve the right to call people retards right after they made an objectively retarded decision

>>48819557
>Talk with Mathilde.

>>48819769

Hang in there HF. Salt is a little off the scale but it is a rather fine critical point in the quest.

>>48819769
The fun is drained out of this game entirely by the way people have been voting. I really feel the need to address it. It's been frustrating to finally play after so long and have people ruin every single vote and every single character

>>48819769
I'm pissed at the other guys trying to cheese a second chance through because they didn't get what they wanted (I voted no, actually). Just accept the results are what it is you twats, stop being salty crybabies

>>48819769
Retcon. The write ins came from the same people who voted no, it was them discussing their vote otherwise they would have voted again.

>>48819808
So others not voing for what you want is BadWrongFun? Get over yourself, this is a quest format, based on votes and the mistakes like Hugo getting played is STILL incharacter since Hugo is a dumbass in political stuff.

>>48819557
>write in
Tell Mathilde that Elias was gonna try and get her to elope with him.

I can't believe people voted to have Hugo turn on Wilhelm. Fuck you guys

>>48819769
no was pretty obviously samefagged, observe the timestamps on posts related to it and you get about a minute between posts

regardless I expect Mathilde to refuse it but basically admit to Elias she hopes to him again in the future

>>48819830
>wanting to set a precedent so others can bitch and whine for their own retcons when they dont get their vote
Hell no, a QM must be resolute, the vote is final.

>>48819865
It's fucking par for the course lately anon. This is just how crusader quest goes now.

>>48819857
Based on votes Hugo should have said no.

>>48819877
Retcons are appropriate sometimes.

>>48819884
go count them and the writeins again.

>>48819865
Fuck that, tell her he's blackmailing us now because we were dumb enough to try to help their relationship.

>>48819917
You've gotta make the best of a bad situation, fuckhead. Gotta come clean to Wilhelm and Mathilde and let them know what Elias was planning before something truly bad happens.

People voted to get us into this situation, so don't blame me.

>>48819944
I'm saying we tell Mathilde how much of a scumbag he really is anon. I agree with you on the rest of it.

I have to take a break. I'll be back soon.

>>48820018
nb4 another 3 month hiatus without telling anyone again

>>48819944
>Gotta come clean to Wilhelm
>Wil &Hugo are currently majorly pissed at each other

FOR what reason would they break bread with each other so soon after a pretty major fight?

>>48820048
Because Mathilde is at risk and Hugo doesn't want to 100% betray Wilhelm?

>>48819978
My bad, didn't catch that
>>48820048
Because Hugo realized he fucked up big time and it needs to be handled for the sake of his sister?

>>48820074
>>48820078
neither of which have happened yet

>>48820018
Hang in there man. Sorry for all this shit.

>>48820018
Hey man I'm sorry for sing pissy at you. I love the quest, I've become invested in your story, it's just been really frustrating seeing people ruin things.

It's sorta appropriate though isn't it? High tempers on the eve of battle :P

>>48820108
Mathilde is presently at risk and Hugo JUST was willing to betray his brother and his sister a major enemy of the family.

You guys understand that Elias doesn't actually give a shit about Mathilde, right? He's just interested in using her to get back at Wilhelm

>>48820144
His charisma stat is high enough that it actually works on the more naive players

>>48820144
>You guys understand that Elias doesn't actually give a shit about Mathilde, right? He's just interested in using her to get back at Wilhelm

But thats wrong.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46210187/#46218120

>>48820144
>You guys understand that Elias doesn't actually give a shit about Mathilde, right?

Provably wrong if you've read from the moment Mathilde met him

>>48820196
And you think this means he won't use her to get back at Wil? And you can be certain that he's gonna use Hugo against Wil now.

>>48820196
His desire to ruin shit for Hugo and Mathilde is up here
His respect and attractor for Mathilde is down here.

And even if he genuinely respects her he is much more interested in getting back at Wilhelm, if he fucks with her it'll fuck with our reputation big time.

>>48820196
>metagaming
I thought you prided yourself on playing each character true to the characters themselves anon?

I think it is both actually. He actually want Mathilde honest to god but he also wants to get back at Wilhelm and Hugo

>>48820219
After spurning him within a day of saying he was in the running for Mattie's hand? I honestly can't fault him that much.

Of course he might, after this debacle. Doesn't change the fact that the insinuation you gave was wrong.

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>Wil will never go back to enjoying his days without worrying about the politics of Jerusalem
>He will never spend lazy days in bed with Chiri & Iovetta
>He will never hang out with Solomon and Hugo again
>Welf and Orlando are dead

Hugh is in all likeliness going to kill us if we're going down the shadowrun path

>>48820244
Is this? I'm just responding to and correcting a wrong statement.

>>48820251
The debacle was making Mathilde trust the enemies of her brothers. He is our greatest threat in the Christian world and you guys want to fuck him.

We already almost ruin the quest once because of sex, can we please not do it again?

All y'all forgetting that Elias and his dad got shitted on hard when Wil pulled a Cicero at the trial against the Queensmen.

Medieval grudges aren't petty, they're hard and they play for keeps.

That said, fuck Elias and his French fuckbois.

>>48820290
Eliasfags are beyond reasoning with anon

>>48820295
That's why I say they must have joined after the hiatus, there's no way they've been playing this long and are still this stupid.

>>48820290
Mattie saw a chance to save Hugo. That too precedent over the other considerations and she wheeled and dealed for Hugo to be free. I believe that choice was made well IC.

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>>48820268
>Welf and Orlando are dead

Fuck man. Why you gotta remind me why shit rolls are what kept fucking us over besides stupid assbait voters?

>>48820323
She isn't "wheeling and dealing" she is falling for an avowed enemy of her brothers. She, and the players, have NOT been keeping aloof and businesslike

>>48820290
>He is our greatest threat in the Christian world and you guys want to fuck him.
>not the Patriarch of Antioch a man known to kill his enemies no matter their standing
>not Theodore Komenos a man who forced us to witness the rape of our guest at spearpoint
>not Fulk of Jerusalem a man who Imprisioned us and put us on trial
>not Hugh who may be lining us up for an assasination because we've flown to high to fast

no of course our greates enemy is Elias, a man who claimed to cuck Wil on the night he was with Iovetta

>>48820343
Shes a young girl, what did you expect? And the attraction was put in right from the start as HF wrote.

POV switches always fuck up quests. It wasn't that bad when it was just Hugo and our goals were aligned but now it's just a complete clusterfuck.

>>48820360
Yeah but we could've nipped that shit in the bud but nooooooo all the Eliasfags came out to fuck it up for everyone else.

Thanks a lot you French fuckbois.

>>48820376
welcome to life, where everything fucks you

Vote off this:

> go see Mathilde
> go back to camp

>>48820390
> go see Mathilde

>>48820390
> go see Mathilde

>>48820390
>> go see Mathilde

>>48820376
She was fun to play until these new guys came in and started ruining it.
>>48820348
None of those people are actively after us. Hugh is our closest ally retard we helped prevent his assassination

>>48820390
> go see Mathilde

>>48820376
Because the different character goals aren't aligned. The siblings are all at cross-purpose with each other.

>>48820390
>> go see Mathilde

>>48820456
The same group of players can't play three different characters with different and opposing goals without metagaming and/or turning everything to shit

>>48820456
Mathilde at least aligns herself in doing things to elevate the family to greater heights

and Hugo at the least aligns himself in killing Saracens

>>48820494
Yes, but people have been playing Mathilde to get smut at the cost of the entire story and Hugo like they're actively trying to sabotage things.

What had you been thinking? You knew Elias better than anyone, better than Wil, better than Matty. You should have thought twice before even approaching the man. You thought to tell Wl, then shook. What was there to say? No, you had a better idea.

It was dark when you came into the queen's cap, and Bayard was sitting outside Mathilde's tent. The soldier saw you approach.

"Looking to say goodnight to your sister?" he asked, scars pulling around his grin.

"Something like that," you said.

"Well go on in, I won't stop you," he said. You gave a touch of your forelock as you pushed through the tent flap.

It was dark inside, Matty rose from her bed, a shadow in the shadows of her tent, a slim outline. "Who is it?" her voice was tense.

"It's me," you said.

The rustle of sheets, she drew up to sit, legs pulled up. "Hugo," she said, "What do you want?" You came to sit beside her bed, thinking on how to phrase it. "What is wrong?" her pale face was visible in the dark, delicate features marred by a purple bruise and look of concern.

"Who hit you?" you asked.

"No one," she replied, very quick, too quick. "Are you so concerned for every scratch I take? Maybe you can kiss this scrape on my knee, make it all better." The concern turned to a teasing smile. She pulled up her blankets and her shift to show her calves, there was a slight scratch beneath her knee.

"Matty," you said, the words were cluttered in your head.

"What?" she said, "What is it Hugo, you're starting to make me nervous." The smile she wore had a touch of anxiety to it now.

> tell her
> don't
> write-in

>>48820549
> tell her

>>48820549
>> write-in
No. Tell me now who hit you or I'm going to ask Bayard.

>>48820549
> tell her

>>48820549
> tell her

>>48820549
>tell her
>Demand to know who hit her

>>48820549
>> tell her

And tell me who hit you so I can plant an axe into his skull

>>48820549
>"No one," she replied, very quick, too quick.
hmm
>>48820563
this

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>>48820549
> tell her
>Ask who hit her

Mathilde gets to suffer in the name of FAMILY!

oh god he may actually try and kill Elinard if he finds out

>>48820549
> tell her

Bring up Dangerosa if she has doubys about ELias' affection to her

Also who the fuck hit you ?

>>48820630
Definitely mention Dangerosa

>>48820563
>>48820579
>>48820585
>>48820587
>>48820630
>Complains about ruining shit
>Fully intends to hurt the prince of Gailee

just saying Besides it's a completely in character reaction for Hugo

>>48820670
No, plans to bring it up with Wilhelm. We do control his reaction

>>48820670
Wilhelm is smart enough to know not to go start a civil war in the middle of a siege.

He'll know it's time to report this information to Wilhelm, and that it cannot be resolved on the eve of battle. Maybe we can intimidate the prince but not harm him.

>>48820670
Oh i'm all for hurting that stupid kid.

>>48820722
He needs to be straightened out but not when it could Fock with the taking of the city.

"I saw Elias," you said.

"Oh?" you did not like the way she said that, or the way her chest rose and eyes widened.

"You know he's scum, right?" you said, "You know he's our enemy, Wil's enemy. Everything he does, its done out of spite."

She was silent for a moment. "Perhaps you misjudge him," she said.

"I saw him, I wanted to make good on my debt to him, and he tricked me. I promised him I'd help him see you, and he turned that around on me, used it against me to pull me further into his schemes. He did so while fondling a whore on his lap."

"He wanted to see me," she said, and then snapped, "Why?" Her gaze had gone hawkish.

"Because..." you faltered a little, "Because Wil has promised you to Elinard of Galilee, once and for all, and Elias hated it. He was drunk, and mean, and he said he wanted to see you and needed my help, but he was lying, he just wanted to me to say something foolish in front of his men, something he could use against me. He's a snake, through and through."

"So you say," she replied, her expression lost in thought, troubled thought.

"Who hit you?" you reached a hand toward her face, "Tell me, Matty. Don't lie."

"I already told you, nobody hit me," she said, and she brushed her hair down to mask the bruise, "I slipped and struck the corner of my table." It was a naked lie. You knew it was a lie.

> press her
> let it go

>>48820747
> press her
We can't kill Elinard but we do need to tell him that if he ever hurts Mathilde again he will die

>>48820747
>> press her

>>48820747
> press her

Who is making you lie ?

>>48820747
>> other
Ask Bayard

>>48820747
He's literally blackmailing me and trying to turn me into a weapon to use against Wil. Will you let him do the same to you? It's your choice.
> press her

>>48820747
> press her

''It was Elias Wasn't it? Imma go kill him now''

>>48820747
> press her

Then have Hugo quietly simmer with more adolescent rage

Yay for medieval social castes

>>48820793
We definitely need to say this

>>48820793
This. Don't be dumb and fall into his games Mathilde. You are only precious to him in that he can gain the most from you. He's as charismatic as our brother, you know he bends women to his will.

>>48820747
Anons have really put us in s tight spot here.
>press her
And say this >>48820793

>>48820856
I think it's insulting to say that's the only reason. He's clearly attracted to her as well.

Also we should have Hugo tell will before anyone else does. Wilhelm loves his brother, and I know he will forgive him if we play it like we thought that he'd be honorable. But as soon as we promised he showed his true colors. I'm sure wil would be sympathetic.

>>48820887
Of purse he's attracted to her, that doesn't change anything. He wouldn't bother with her if she wasn't attractive

>>48820887
I don't see the point your trying to make. I'm sure he's attracted to most women he tries to bed.

>>48820922
I'm just saying that because Mattie's immediate reaction will be negative, like we're implying that there's no way his love for her is genuine.

>>48820908

Thats a little wrong though. Elias went to her when he was very vulnerable, she was the one he went to when he was terrified of dying, that doesn't speak of just physical attraction but of emotional attachment as well.

If you want to try and disuade her, full out untruths like that will have a whiplash effect as she'd latch onto the points which are untrue and discard everything hugo says.

"Elias, he's trying to turn us into weapons against our brother, we can't let him," you said, and she gave you an unhappy smile at that, fingers clutching her bed sheet, breathing unsteady.

"Who hit you?" you asked again, leaning into her

"Whoever it is, I can protect you," you said, hand closing on her shoulder. She trembled. "I won't let anyone hurt you, tell me and I'll deal with them."

"Protect me, Hugo? He is to be my lord husband, it is his right to strike me should I anger him," her eyes were wide and smile forced, it scared you worse than a Saracen axe.

"Elinard did this?" you said, your fingers brushing her bruise, "Does Wil know?"

"He does not and he will not," she replied, "You will not let a a little bruise and a bit of torn cloth tear this army apart." Those didn't sound like Mathilde's words. Her mask began to crumble, inch by inch. "It won't matter if it's Elinard or another man, Elias or Wil or Jesus Christ, it seems I'm just a pawn to all of them." Her words bubbled in her throat, tears starting at the corner of her eyes.

You squirmed, an uncomfortable hot feeling in your chest.

> I should go
> comfort her
> write-in

>>48820981
>> comfort her

>>48820981
> comfort her

>>48820981
>> write-in
"Were those your words? Or were they Bayard's? Or were they someone else's words?"

>>48820981
> comfort her
What... What do we say? Somebody think of something

>>48820981
> comfort her

>>48820981
Hug the god damn girl.

Hugo's motivations and world view aren't built for all this politicking shit.

>>48820981
>> comfort her
Hug her, let her cry.
>> write-in
"...What do YOU want."

Oh gosh. I can totally see Hugo sticking his sword into Elinard's side during the next assault.

And seeing mattie like this, I'm not totally against it.

>>48820981
> comfort her

>>48821008
>>48820981
'Not to me Maddi. To me you are my sister. My blood. The life will leave my body before I do anything to hurt you. Damn Wil, damn all of them. If any of them hurt you I will do everything in my power to either make it right or extract retribution for you.'

>>48820981
"I... I don't think Wilhelm wanted to use you. I think he wants what best for you. He only matched you with Elinard so father wouldn't force you to return to Germany.

"Mattie I am in the same position you are in. What do we do? Do we demand our lives be given to us? Must we follow the plans of others?"

>>48821053
To revengey, that isn't a good idea.

>>48820981
Let's you and I go to Wilhelm, tell him that if his life is defined by his search for live he can't force us to lovelessness without being a hypocrite.

Let's tell him that him playing games with our lives will make us both miserable.

>>48820981
> write-in

we are gonna have some words with Elinard right NOW!

Ascalon battle when

>>48821132
Not tonight

>>48821132
next thread

>>48821106
No such thing as revengey, unless you're Sterling Archer and you decide to go on a revenge rampage.

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>>48821143
>Alain ends up growing up into an Archer tier Knight complete with domineering mother issues

I need this in my life

>>48821168
>Alain and Morphia meets and fall in love with eachother.

>>48821187
Wat.

This isn't Kentucky for fuck's sake.

Put them banjos and paddles away dammit.

>>48821187
>Morphia?
>Morphia?!
>MORPHIA?!
>MOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRPHIA?!!!!!!!!!
>WHAT?!

Dangerzone Incidental Incest best Incest

>>48821206
Who are these people?

>>48821225
Animated spy fiction

Think Remington Steele meets Arrested Development meets The Office

You took her into your arms and she made a choking sob against your shoulder. You stroked her hair.

"It's alright, it's alright," you said, but the words turned to just soothing noises. She shook against you. The back of your knuckles gently pulled back her hair, touched the side of her face. Her large blue eyes were narrow and flooded with tears.

"I don't think Wil was trying to use you," you said, "I think he just, he's trying to do what's best for everyone. It's the same with me, he just-"

"It's not about Wil," she sniffed, "It has nothing to do with Wil. It's not about anyone, it's about everyone. It's..." her mouth closed with a frustrated sob.

"What is it?" you asked, the palm of your hand caressing her cheek, the tears running along your fingers like rain water through a gutter. "Talk to me Matty, tell me what's wrong. I'm your brother, I love you." She looked to you through the part of her hair, face writ with anguish.

"I'm not a person," she said, "Not to Wil, not to father, not to any man." Her hands ran up your back and she pulled from you a little. "Except you," she said, and her chest rose and lips parted, her hands found your shoulders, your chest. "You...you've never...you've always..." her eyes widened, "Why did you have to be my brother?" she said, and she trembled as she brought her lips against yours.

> push her off
> ...don't
> write-in

was this a good idea? probably not

>>48821260
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

>>48821260

Chiri was right Chiri was right!!!

>>48821260
Aw fuck turn it back into a hug

>>48821260
Was it too revengey now lads? Righteous anger was better than whatever the fuck happens now.

Well played HF. Well played. We should of seen this coming a mile away

>>48821260
> push her off
Our greatest test

>>48821260
Yea... sorta saw it going this way.

But man, I have absolutely no clue how i want this to play out.

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>>48821260
> push her off

Jesus christ matty, Chiri was right

>>48821260
Give her a hug and then gently push her off. Boil this down to her merely being emotional and hurt and she doesnt know what she is saying.

>>48821260
> push her off
I can't believe I'm voting against incest...

If it had been Wilhelm no way I couldn't resisted

>>48821292
>>48821313

Thought it was pretty clear from the start that sister dearest had abit of a thing for hugo.

It just never really came up.

>>48821260
>> push her off

gently we proto Habsburgs now

>>48821260
Gently push her away. Shes hurting and scared, Hugo can understand that.

'Maddi no. This isn't what you want. This never happened. Your my sister and i love you but not like this.'

Then turn around and walk the fuck outta there

>>48821337
I thought it was more towards Wilhelm

>>48821337
I quite litreally put it down to puberty and Hormones

Jesus christ if HF continues the Koblenz dynasty at some point Incest MUST come up again

Fuck I want this....

>>48821350
Not really, was written that from before mattie would always bully hugo and that usually is a sign of trying to get their attention.

>>48821365
If only he didnt have Sabeen.

>>48821372
Clearly you don't have siblings.

Plus she was always blushing around d Wilhelm and stuff

>>48821385
It seems like at this point Mattie wants to fuck literally everyone she knows. Not even exaggerating right now.

>>48821394
Lol true

>Anons being forced to vote against incest

Tragic.

>>48821385
Hugo's half sibling. Its abit different.

>>48821385
I always read it as she looked to Wil as the perfect big brother figure. Always aspiring to make him happy but i could be wrong

>>48821260
> ... don't.

... dafuq HF, we're not the Lannisters for fuck's sake.

Though given that Jaime and Hugo have roughly similar physiques and both have blonde hair-- oh fucknuggets, HF, WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>48821403
Truly criminal.

>>48821260
> push her off
Tell her you love her, but you can't do this, not now.

>>48821405
>>48821407
Nah. People don't blush to people they host look up to. And re half siblings, no. It's being raised together that matters.

>>48821394
I guess she is abit of a slut but knows how to keep her legs closed.

Then again she really is very vulnerable emotionally right now.

>>48821338
>>48821363

Crusader Quest has taken a step towards Crusader Kings II.

Pretty sure HF has a copy of it on Steam, unless he's being a silly salad tosser and having a giggle.

HF you Better be proud of us, you Australian baitmaster

>>48821465
I personally think he went and made himself fairy bread and grabbed a pint before figuring he'd need to troll us hard since we collectively menstruated all over his quest.

>>48821499
Fairy bread?

>>48821510
Australian party food. Surprisingly excellent

>>48821510
Fuck man, Google is your friend.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Fairy_Bread.jpg

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>>48821499
>I personally think he went and made himself fairy bread and grabbed a pint before figuring he'd need to troll us hard since we collectively menstruated all over his quest.

if this isn't the description of this thread I will be depressingly sad

>>48821510
>Not knowing about fair bread

YOU FUCKING WOT M8?!

Mathilde needs Jesus

>>48821530
...bread and skittles?

>>48821556
White bread, butter/margarine, and a metric fuckton of cake sprinkles/skittles/hundreds and thousands/jimmies/whateverthefuckyourcountrycallsthem

>Matty recruits Chiri into a scheme in which she gets Hugo drunk so she can force herself on him while he is half passed out.

You broke her kiss with a gentle push backward, your lips separating.

"I'm sorry," she said. She pulled away, pulled up her knees. "I'm sorry."

You shifted uncomfortably. "It's alright," you said, "You're upset."

"I just..." she choked back a bubble, "I'm sorry."

"You're just upset Matty, it happens," you touched her shoulder.

"A sister just kisses her brother?" she said.

You pulled her into your arms again. "Maybe," you said, "Sister or no, I love Sabeen."

"You should," she said, "And she should love you. The two of you, you're both so good it hurts my heart." Her hand strayed up to your hair, brushed it back, "I wish I was as good. Maybe, if I could have something as good, someone as good, just for a little while I could pretend." You touched her chin, tipped her head up. She was pretty, even bruised and crying, even so upset. It gave her a fey look.

"I love you too Matty," you said.

"But not like that," she smiled a broken little smile.

"Not like that," you replied, and kissed her forehead.

She lay back on the bed arms out above her, her eyes closed, the smile still on her face. "You should go," she said, "before I taint you further with my wickedness." Her smile grew like she might laugh.

"You aren't wicked," you said. The bed sheets were drawn up, as was her shift, showing the small cut on her knee. You leaned down and kissed the little cut, then stood. You went to the tent flap. Looked back at her so miserable.

"Goodnight, Hugo," she said.

Would she be well, if she were left alone?

> stay
> leave
> write-in

>>48821608
Is this something that adults eat?

>>48821631
>> stay
Just sit on the ground with blade drawn and keep guard like a hound.

>>48821631
> stay

>>48821631
> stay

Let her feel safe.

>>48821631
>> stay

>>48821631
> leave
It has to be done

>>48821631
>> write-in

Go have words with Elinard NOW!

>>48821672
Not as this hour. We wont even be let near his tent.

>>48821631
>leave
If we stay it might not look proper... And she can't rely on Hugo emotionally like this

>>48821631
>leave
If we stay it might not be proper and she can't rely on us like this, emotionally. Hugo has to leave

(I tried to post this twice so my bad of it appears more than once)

>>48821741
>>48821685
Looks like double votin' here boys.

>>48821741
Too late, mate.

Can't leave sister like that.

>>48821631
> write-in

stand guard with Bayard

>>48821797
Tough(ish) love, I agree.

>>48821685
>>48821741
Samefag

You turned back, back to her bed, and sat upon the ground, your sword across your lap. Mathilde turned onto her side, looking down at you.

"I'll be here when you wake," you said, eyes on the tent flap. You felt the tips of her fingers brush through your hair, and then felt her hand fall away.

Then there came the sound of her gentle snoring. You smiled as you closed your own eyes, and slept.
-
end thread

Hugo +1 int

I was going to run longer but I can't. I'm exhausted mentally. Today's been a bad day for my mental health. I'll stick around for a QnA though.

>>48821842
Thanks for running HF. Appreciate it.

>>48821842
Thanks for running HF. Sorry for all the salt earlier.

Get some rest.

>>48821842
Chiri bloody called it.

>>48821842
What do you think of our decisions this thread? Were you bothered by the shitstorm? What made today difficult?

Thanks for running man it's always a good time

>>48821842
Thanks for running HF, I don't blame you for the Eliasfaggotry.

+1 INT was from doing what now?

>>48821842
thanks for running HF

>Today's been a bad day for my mental health

It was the Elias shitstorm wasn't it?

Elias is kinda broke up about the whole arrangment Im guessing?

how long has Mathilde had these heretical thoughts?

>>48821883
Should've been like -5 INT

>>48821878
What did chiri say?

>>48821894
enough with the salt already

>>48821897
From thread 26

>Chihirizahd whispered in your ear. "Your sister is a strange girl," she said, "While you were gone she fretted for you, and fretted for your squire as well - though she masked that care with cursing. Do you think she loves him?"

>"He is her brother, no matter what she says," you replied.

>"Oh but is it a sisterly love?" she pondered. That left a troubled flutter in your gut. She smiled at the look of shock on your face. "I forget that you are Christian," she said, and kissed you lightly on the cheek, "I shall tell you a story some time. Of the ancient princes of Persia, who bedded sister to brother and thought it holy." You felt a shudder in your loins.

>>48821924
Too bad this isn't Zoroastrian Quest

>>48821903
>>48821894
doctor's should prescribe HF a low sodium diet

Just to clarify a bit about Mathilde and 'incest'.

Mathilde has no physical attraction to Wilhelm. Outside of recognizing his handsome traits from an objective view point, she holds no interest in him. He is, or at least was, her idealized big brother.

Her feelings toward Hugo though have always been confused, partly because for a long time she refused to recognize him as family. She considered his presence a stain on her mother's honour. However he's also an attractive, some what charismatic and likable person. Mathilde wouldn't act on this subconscious attraction unless she was under a great deal of mental stress, stress related to her position as a woman in this society, essentially over the fact she's considered as just a piece of meat being argued over by a bunch of men. She thought Elias was another person who saw her as more than a piece of meat on the market, having Hugo tell her 'no, he's the same as the rest', wounded her deeply and she acted out.

>>48821883
>+1 INT was from doing what now?
Not fucking your sister.

>>48821961
Well shit, that should've been +2 given how much of a dimwit Hugo comes across sometimes.

I kid, I kid, INT isn't Hugo's forte anyways.

>>48821952
Hugo and Matty got to stick to get. They are family.

Just not that close though,

>>48821961
Hahahaha I love you HF.

Would we have gotten -1? What would the consequences have been?

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>>48821952
>She thought Elias was another person who saw her as more than a piece of meat on the market, having Hugo tell her 'no, he's the same as the rest', wounded her deeply and she acted out.

Being Mathilde is suffering

>>48821952
What would had happened if they had gone for it ?

Just how disgusted would they be with themselves the day after ?

Did Chiri really see it or was it merely a joke that turned out to be correct ?