Why isn't the Eldar taller than him?

>>51105772
He is a little over 6 and a half foot tall. Not freakish for a human by any means but over the average.

She is about 6 foot tall. By no means a dwarf or deformed or anything but notably petite and beneath the average height for eldar women.

>>51105772
>>51105819
You know i notice that artwork of LIVVI in Love Can Bloom is often bound to always look like freakin Markiplier.

In pervious thread it was mentioned that the homeworld of the Chaos Eldar, and capital of the chaos forces as a whole, is the shellworld of Shah-Dome.

A multi-layered nested doll type structure of over lapping shells with reality getting thinner and thinner as you go down to the point where the innermost layers are in the Realm of Choas, in the Brass Palace of Slaanesh itself.

Another (?) anon also mentioned that the craftworld of Altansar did not hold out long enough to be rescued in this timeline. Presumably only a handful, Maugan Ra among them, managed to flee to the other craftworlds. The souls in the infinity circuit and any living elder refusing to convert being fed to Slaanesh.

My question is should Chaos Eldar be able still to breed conventionally without Isha and in fact with the antipathy of Isha? I can't see them using the tank grown meathod of the Dark Eldar because, from a narrative point of view that's the Dark Cities thing, but also because of pride and seeing that as desperation and beneath them.

Given that Slaanesh is farming them for feelz and giggles rather than devouring them outright I can see them getting free resurrection more than many other Chaos adherents but that can only, at best, keep things stable. Numbers might grow slightly from a trickle of converts from the Dark City and a much smaller trickle from Craftworld dropouts.

>>51106036
When I type that name into google all I see is some tumblrtard looking twat.

If it's him you are referring to I'm not seeing it.

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page 9 bump

anime sucks

>>51106099
They probably can in some way, if for no other reason than the Chaos Gods would run out of Cronedar eventually through even the smallest amounts of attrition and we can't have that. It's probably the same situation as the Chaos Space Marines, they probably have some way of making new Cronedar that violates all laws of physics and morality, even moreso than the Dark Eldar.

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Anyone want to do something with the scions?

>>51106099
I would say that they should still be capable of doing so, the DEldar can after all. But the infant mortality rate should be high for obvious backstabery reason.

But they shouldn't be a fast growing population so as not to undo the importance of using the orks as the heavy lifters.

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>>51109695
Possibly they are what happens when humans try to be Aspect Warriors. Highly trained, well equipped, big dropout rate and fanatically loyal to the alliance the Imperium is founded on above all else.

The Inquisition tend to employ them but they know it's a sword that swings both ways and Inquisitors have been cut down by friendly fire for perceived betrayals.

>>51109632
I was planning on writing about Scions within the Imperial Army. Then Scions under Battle Sisters and the Inquisition. The reason why Stormtroopers are only used in the Imperial Guard along with their equipment and tactics. I know the equipment and tactics should be scaled to the NobleDark logic instead of GrimeDerp mortal uselessness.

>>51110391
Meant for
>>51109632

Sorry. I fucked up.

>>51105718 Copying this from the other thread.

>Croneworld Eldar!
>Chaos-manipulated (but not controlled) orks!
>Extremist human/eldar insurgencies! ("Remember, no Gothic.")
>Ghazghkull & Co: Another Beast, or just a Brain Boy's muscle? Find out after the commercial break!

>Oh god there's so much writing how the fuck to keep up
>Lol primarchs have been lost to the warp, we're getting all IG and Eldar up in here
>Think we abandoned the attempt to rewrite the C'Tan/Old Ones fluff since we're not trying to do a complete overhaul.
>I'm probably wrong though
>I've kinda resigned myself to being just busy (and lazy) enough to be able to contribute ideas and shit but not do rewrites and polishing like I used to. At least not at the moment.
>I'll try and push on with the new 1d4 page though because holy shit we have so much we need to organise.

>NOBLEDARK BATTLES! Not heroic victories through Deus Ex Astartes, but not ohgodwhat losses because owtheedge.jpg. We want Alamos! We want Thermopyales! Defences to the last man, heroic sacrifices being for naught (or at least not for very much), and all that shit!
>We also want more weebs
>And more bugs

If Armageddon is such a significant world, being in a warp current that speeds up travel to Earth and somewhat of a holy world for orks, should there have been more than 3 Great Wars?

>>51109632

Lady of the Lake 40k style

These guys are totally Ishas sons

>>51111669
Yes something like 4 or 5 Great Wars in this AU to compensate that for a fact the Imperium is more logical or reasonable. That's why the Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks get a buff in this AU because the Imperium gets a buff while Chaos as a whole is debuff. So in the End Times unlike Vanilla, it becomes a four way war between Chaos, Necron, Imperium, and Tyranids.

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>>51112070
The Dark and Chaos Eldar alliance could be a direct result of the reappearance of the Brain Boyz.

Lady Malys needs an army. She has Fallen Space Marines and her own people as the heavy hitters but the brute numbers are what the orks provided. But the Brain Boyz are uncooperative and the Orks are following them and won't listen to her anymore.

She has some humans and other lesser people, but not enough by a long way. The Dark City has slaves of all sorts beyond counting and thats not even touching the tank grown imitation eldar. Like holy shit so many eldar soldiery.

Great War 5 for Armageddon is pure Ork. Ain't no chaos here, bar the occasional chao ork whose coming along for shits and giggles because they are still orks and this is the orky thing to do.

In the same way that the 13 Black Crusade is Pure Chaos (Dark Eldar no counted among them) with no orks. Except the Chaos orks again becasue religious observations/fun/got on wrong ship.

In theory the split up of the Chaos and Orks should result in 2 half powered armies. Imperium can get fucked if it thinks that. Orks are at double strength because the Brain Boyz are now directing all the wasted infighting energy outwards and Chaos Eldar are getting the Dark Eldar to act as a coherent force, something even Vect couldn't quite manage alone.

The Rape Train is only speeding up.

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>>51109489
Just like Ur mum

>>51112890
A while ago someone proposed that chaos orks were a strain engineered by Nurgle in his bout of post-Isha-theft furious activity. The chaotic strain of orks are ready conduits for the dark gods, and when charged with the fury of the warp they become deadly pseudo-daemonic entites. Chaos orks under the sign of Nurgle and immovable, spore belching tanks, Khorne's are horn-crowned juggernauts, and Tzeench's are idiot-savant psykers that can match brainboyz in strategy. Just as few eldar serve Nurgle, relatively few orks serve Slaanesh, but those that do are horrific, falling somewhere between industrial rape machine and stealthy ambush hunter. For all their power, chaos orks are fundamentally seperated from their programming, and interact with the waaagh more weakly than a grot. They cannot become meks, doks, or any other ork specialists, and while they can dominate a warband of common orks they will be forsaken in the presence of a comparable pure warboss, and are naturally loathed by brainboyz.

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>>51114315
Sounds good.

In the Perty fluff it mentions that he fought a Pox Dok and Fulgrim got taken to the cleaners in the Iron Cage by a Big Wyrd of Tzeench so it would seem that they either still see themselves as as orky, however incorrect they are, or they still retain enough old programing to be using old titles.

>>51114653
There's no doubt in their corrupted minds as to their own orkyness, and orks under their command still understand them as fellow orks. But if Ghaz came along and started beating on the khornate warboss it wouldn't matter if the khornate stood a meter taller than him, he would have greater waaagh power and superior orkyness. They're big and strong, but they have to strut to demonstrate it, and rejection by the ork's psychic immune system is a real possibility.

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In previous threads the necron empire was described as post-scarcity, post-singularity, post-heroic, and posthumous. The C'tan, renegade lords, Silent King, and Trayzn have all been discussed, but the necron empire itself is yet to be elaborated on. What horrors should the tomb worlds hold, under the aegis or our nobledark necrons?

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>>51115810
Soldiers beyond counting, obviously.

Infectious nano-scarabs that fuck you up from the inside out.

Dimensional manipulation on scale both grand and intricate.

True FTL or apparently so.

Matter projection.

Basically if you can think of something insane that is based on high end sci-fi rather than space magic the chances are they either have one, have had one at some point or might know someone who can make on.

>>51111669
>>51112070

Yeah, more than three wars for Armageddon sound reasonable. Especially since the world holds so much importance for the Orks.

>>51114315
>>51115316

Chaos Orks could be like Chaos Dwarfs in Warhammer Fantasy. Dwarfs cannot be corrupted by Chaos, but they can still willingly choose to fall to it if they think it offers better benefits (IIRC, in canon there is a mention of an Ork Waaagh who had an epiphany and started serving Nurgle because he was "the biggest and the greenest"). Orks who willingly choose to follow Chaos think they're getting the better end of the deal, but the rest of the Orks loathe them.

>>51112890

Lady Malys might still be able to convince the Orks to stay on for the next Black Crusade, if nothing else for the fightin' and lootin'. If the Orks go their own way, the 13th crusade is severely weakened (even if the two armies are more organized, the Orks would still be fighting Chaos and forcing them to fight a two-front war) rather than the outright rape train it should be. However, this time with the Brain Boyz around the relationship between the two powers is more of an alliance, rather than Chaos manipulating the Orks to do what they want. As a result, this might lead to the Orks stabbing the mortal followers of Chaos in the back as soon as everyone else is weakened. Lady Malys may be able to convince the Orks to stick around for now, but its rapidly becoming clear to her that she does not hold all the cards, hence the alliance with the Dark Eldar as a back-up plan.

>>51115810
Had an idea for Imotekh the Stormlord that I hadn't had the chance to bang out the writefaggotry for yet.

The Silent King is fricking creepy. He controls his subjects through a method that seems to be one-half adoration and one-half mind control. It is entirely possible that unlike Vanilla the Silent King never severed the control protocols over his fellow Necrons, or never figured out how to do so. However, because many of the Necrons have developed their own quirks from the long sleep, the Silent King often finds it most useful to give his subjects generalized orders (like "go kill that planet") and let his generals go about their own way to do it. Imotekh is a great example of this.

Imotekh is the classic example of a "bad guy" who still has some traits even his enemies consider virtues. Imotekh has a measure of honor, unusual for a Necron, and when told to destroy a planet Imotekh will often show up in full force and demand to fight a champion of the planet in single combat to determine the fate of the planet. Winning against Imotekh means the planet is spared (i.e., Imotekh goes back to SK and goes "sorry boss, planet is too stronk). Firing upon Imotekh is considered a forfeture of the duel and planets who do so are annihilated. If the champion of the planet is defeated, the Necrons open fire and kill every man, woman, and child on the planet. Imotekh doesn't blink an eye. After all, they lost, fair and square.

Imotekh rarely loses, if for nothing else than the fact that it's really hard for anyone on a given planet to defeat a Terminator-esque skele-bot in 1 on 1 combat.

The worst part is, Imotekh is about the nicest of the Silent King's warriors. The others tend to be much worse.

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>>51111760
In what way Lady of the Lake?

I get the insane immune system is probably a blessing from Isha in some way.

Maybe some sort of blood sharing ritual that passes on something in the blood so that the blessing never dies, sort of an anti-plague. The biologicus try and tell them it's bullshit but the results are undeniable.

>>51114315
>>51114653
>>51115316
>>51116124
But then if Chaos has their own Orks, there's no need for them to manipulate regular ones to use as proxies (which is a delightfully keikaku thing to do). Plus, merging Orks into another faction seems pretty icky, especially since one of the major themes in our brainstorming over the past thread or two has been "yeah but now there's other actual threats other than MUH OMNIPOTENT CHAOS".

Doing it like >>51112890 feels a lot cleaner, because the Orks are warming to their Brain Boy not!overlords instead of their Chaotic ones, which leads to the Bad Eldar alliance.

As for >>51116124 , the 13th Black Crusade would probably work better with the Imperium getting mcfucked on two massive fronts; the Orks ARE still fighting Chaos but aren't putting their back into it - remember that Ghazghkull has a super murder boner for the Imperium after the various wars of Armageddon.

tl;dr:
>Having the Orks being directly controlled by Chaos seems pretty cheap
>Having them allied with Chaos seems even cheaper (Brain Boyz being smarter means they're kunnin', not diplomatic)
>We just spend a decent chunk of last thread debating on the nature of Ork leadership and now it's actually Chaos keikakus? No thanks fampai
>A bigger 13th Black Crusade is a lot less fun than a regular 13th BC + 2nd WotB

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>>51116878
What that guy said.

Orks are big players in their own right. They may have been side by side with the Chaos Eldar but that is not the same as on the same side.

Not even the Chaos Orks truly because Chaos Orks are still Orks first and Chaos second.

>>51116878
my corrupted ork idea was kinda hinging on the chaos orks being easily shaken off by the orks as they unified, and because I wanted big hyper-corrupted walls of meat for Ghazghull to purge as he assumed control.

>>51117415
Gazzy would still have walls of uncooperative orks to slaughter on his way to top of the heap.

>>51117586
but there's such panache to giant demon orks, and it would give a real turnabout angle to the unification of the orks. Oh well.

>>51116517
Where stands Trayzn in this setup?

>>51116878
>13th BC + 2nd WotB
>[distant nid noises]
And it was only at this point I realised how fucked everyone was.

>>51112890
>>51114315
>>51114653
>>51115316
>>51116124
>>51116878
>>51117317
>>51117415
>>51117962

The problem with the Orks completely breaking off on their own from Chaos is twofold. First, without the Orks, the forces of Chaos are seriously lacking in muscle. Chaos doesn’t have nine traitor legions to draw on like in vanilla. The Crone Eldar can do many things, but acting as front-line combatants isn’t one of them, and the CSMs are too far and few between to make up for that. Allying with the Dark Eldar doesn’t help anything, as the DEldar are the most fragile glass cannon faction in the entire setting, even moreso than the Crone Eldar.
Additionally, the Orks being independent implies that they are going to be warring against Chaos as much as they are the Imperium. This is not only due to the inherent nature of Orks, but because the Brain Boyz have just as much of a reason to go after Chaos (10,000 years of cannon fodder) as they do the Imperium (revenge for the WotB). This would be a godsend for the Imperium, where having any of its major foes fighting each other means they will be spending, and greatly reduces the chances that Chaos will come out on top in the End Times.
I don’t want to go into MUH CHAOS ALWAYS WINS bullshit, but at the same time there is the issue of neutering Chaos too much into a non-factor during the End Times, which has also been something that some have also considered a problem with the setting.

>>51120771 (cont.)

I get the impression that we're all kind of having the same idea, but we're all talking past each other. From what I'm seeing it sounds like the general idea is this:

For years, Lady Malys has believed she can control the Orks, or at the very least manipulate them into doing what she wants. However, with the re-emergence of the Brain Boyz, it is rapidly becoming clear this is not the case. Now, the best that Chaos can do is propose mutually-advantageous strategies to the Orks, because the Brain Boyz are smart enough to know when Chaos is trying to manipulate them into being cannon fodder and are only willing to follow Chaos’ advice when it furthers their own goals as well. Thankfully for the mortal followers of Chaos, the Orks seem to be more interested in going after the Imperium than taking revenge on them. However, it’s highly likely that the minute the Imperium is no longer a factor that the WAAAGH! is just going to wrap around and krump the gits who have been using the Orks like cannon fodder for the past ten millennia.

>>51120306
and again, this isn't even counting the Necrons

>>51119462
Kleptomaniac SPESS Dr. Doom

Trazyn the Infinite bows his head to no ruler, whether that being is the Emperor of Mankind or the Silent King of the Necron Star Empire. He's a backwater ruler that controls essentially, a single star system, but he's the most powerful Necron Lord that hasn't thrown his hat in with the Imperium or the Silent King. He also serves as a useful buffer state between the Silent King and the Imperium.

Unlike vanilla (*cough*Fall of Cadia*cough*), he also probably understands how his tech works more than most Necron Lords (being SPESS Doom and all), but he's not as smart as most Crypteks.

All of the Necron Lords who are siding with the Imperium or at the very least against the Silent King are the "eccentric" ones that are those that reject the post-heroic, post-individual nature of the Necrons. The ones who have individual desires or have a code of ethics that they hold higher than their obedience to the Silent King.

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>>51120306
>>51120787

I was saving this shitpost for when the thread got quiet, but I think this sums up the situation in the 41st millenium rather well. Keep in mind this was written before the recent Ork stuff and the Nightbringer.

>In this corner, from the northwest, we have the universal forces of entropy, led by some of the most fucked up elves I have ever seen (and for someone of my age that's a lot, folks) and accompanied by some of the meanest, greenest orks in all of history, give it up for Chaos!
>In this corner, from the southeast, we have the newcomer, the Beast from the East, the Devourer, the Scourer, the...tyranids!
>In this corner, from the northeast, we have the undefeated champions, wielding every doomsday weapon and C'tan shard they can get their hands on, the silent empire, the Necrons!
>And finally, in this corner, in the southwest, we have a juggalo, a hippie, a man with entirely too much bling, a very angry god broken into 15,000 pieces, the descendants of 20 legions of transhuman warriors, the last alliance of men and elves, a few eccentric necron lords and anyone else believing in the concept of "civilization" that could fit into a shoebox. Give it up for your home team, the Imperium!
>I'm the Outsider, standing outside the ring, along with my co-commentator the Void Dragon, as we are about to witness one of the greatest collisions of military forces I have ever seen in my long, long life. Voidy, any comments?

>It is quite interesting, my kindred. I have not seen an amassing of such forces since the War in Heaven, which I believe if you will recall nearly made the galaxy inhospitable to sentient life.

>Interesting if true. And you too can watch the spectacle live on pay-per-view TV at the low, low cost of only 9.99 thrones per century. Say, Voidy, aren't you supposed to be down there?

>I do what I want.

>Never has a more accurate assessment of your personality been made.

>>51120771
I believe it was suggested earlier that Nobledark Chaos would make far heavier usage of daemons than vanilla does. They don't have nine traitor legions, but they have a sizable majority of the DAs (which eventually ends up about two or three standard legions' worth of SMs), who in turn get far better toys than their Croneldar counterparts. Every Captain - hell, maybe even down to Sergeant level - might be approaching Chaos Champion-tier power.

The beautiful thing about Croneldar is that we have no fucking clue what they're like. The closest thing we know are Deldar, but they're probably as close to Croneworlders as Craftworlders are to Deldar, and we know the Chaos gods like kitbashing. So who says they stay as spess elves?

>Khornate beserkers turning murder into an art form, fighting like the elegant choreography of harlequins but with each movement a sharp, violent motion hinting at hidden strength that could pop a skull like a grape.
>Nurglite...THINGS, bloated and mutated, that look like they have the bodies of multiple eldar fused together into a horrific creature that seems more a creation of the tyranids than Chaos.
>Tzeentchian wraithbone constructs; since I doubt croneworlders have means of producing them, and DON'T have the whole "m-muh honour the fallen" deal. Fight, eat, breathe pure warpstuff, and can forge it into weapons powered by their will in the midst of battle. GKs, but instead of having warpy shit written into their armour, they're MADE of warpy shit.
>Slaaneshi croneworlders who stay at home and indulge in their vore fetish for their goddaddy

Craftworld Eldar given the CSM treatment can't act as frontline combatants, but that's not to say Crones can't - at least, not in some way shape or form. Plus, with DEldar finally under some semblance of control, the feudal fighting can be directed in aid of the Croneworlders - and don't forget, that fragile glass cannon still massively outnumbers the croneworlders.

(cont)

>>51121050
>hippie, a man with entirely too much bling, a very angry god broken into 15,000 pieces,
wait what

>>51120771
>>51120786

>>51121247 (cont)
As for Orks? Your post makes the assumption that the Brain Boyz are in charge of the Orks or at least are steering them on a faction scale - which isn't even anything approaching their job description and was shot down last thread. Afaik, Brain Boyz are introducing a little more smarts into the Orks at a tactical and strategic level, which makes them a more formidable foe; they're certainly not turning them into a coherent, stable faction, not in the least because then they would start enroaching on Chaos territory in terms of overall themes.

I honestly don't know where the Brain Boyz Run The Orks idea came from; it doesn't matter what you bring to the table, because if you're the biggest then you lead. Since Ghaz is the Biggest Warboss Since The Big One, I doubt anyone else's gonna be steering the WAAAAAAGH! any time soon, and this particular warbos want's to break the Imperium because
>Armageddon (x5)
>WotB revenge
>wanting to be the new Beast
All of which seems to make more sense than having them walk back into the arms of the ones who thralled them int 10 millenia of being cannon fodder.

>>51121050
I can't breathe, my sides have achieved FTL.

>>51121050
>Never has a more accurate assessment of your personality been made.

Oh fuck you that was golden.

Just one question. Who was the hippie?

>>51120771
>Chaos are seriously lacking in muscle

Not with the Dark Eldar alliance and all that comes with it.

In addition to the DEldar you got the vat grown imitation elder, holy shitting dick nipples so many slave soldiers, vast mercenary armies and the Frankensteinian abominations.

Vat grown eldar and the stitched together abominations can be made in factories on a huge scale and slaves soldiers can be given epic buffs by shoving a deamon up every orifice.

>the Brain Boyz have just as much of a reason to go after Chaos (10,000 years of cannon fodder)

Not really an issue for the orks as who gives a shit about history. If anything they would be mildly grateful because it was fun.

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Is there room for this guy in the fluff?

Also are astropaths still made In the same way?

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Bumpin

I've listed the Jubblowski fluff from the previous threads on the 1d4chan page

Tried to filter the magical_realm.jpg out of it.

Is it worth typing up proper at some point or am I a terrible person?

>>51125904
We actually discussed it in an earlier thread, the consensus was that having too many hybrids running around cheapens the fluff that they are supposed to be impossible, hence why Lofn is miraculous and seen as a test run for the prophecied Starchild.

>>51121277
>>51124764

hippie - Isha, loves just about everyone, flowers probably literally bloom where she steps, most derogatory term I can think of for a fertility goddess. Man with bling - Big E, who else? Angry impotent god in 15,000 pieces - Khaine

>>51127972
Thank you for clarification. I didn't get the Khine reference. I assumed it was a C'tan. This is much funnier.

>>51127176
Looks good if greentext levels basic.

Only thing you missed out are the assassination attempts.

>>51128490
>>51124348
>>51124764

Thanks

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>>51127176
>mfw Battle of Necromunda is now NobleDark!fanon
>mfw I originally wrote that
>mfw I'm the Matt Ward for the Imperial Fist

>>51129365
It was well written.

How should Necromunda be by 999M41?

>>51127176
>>51128857

Also Armageddon probably isn't a Survivor civilization. Armageddon was Ork-controlled prior to the Great Crusade, Ork-controlled after the WotB, with very little time for human habitation in between.

>>51129963
Wait, I'm an idiot. Armageddon is Imperial-held after the WotB, because if the Orks took the planet it means they get a back door to Terra.

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>>51129497
Almost as shitty as in canon except now the standard of living is actually improved. The planet would still have huge pandemics due to the planetary government being unable to set up an effective garbage disposal system. Mines all over the planet are getting dangerously low but the scrap metal wouldn't cover all of the planet just most of it. Local efforts by the hive-cities would be made to try to clean up the toxic sludges in the water and poisonous gas in the atmosphere. In some of the most far off and remote parts of Necromunda that are mostly not toxic, there can be small-scale farms akin to Feudal worlds

Now for the most interesting part of Necromunda, the Hive gangs. The Underhives of the planet are still some of the worst places to live in the Imperium. Although not as lethal compared to a Death world, the standard of living is so degraded most would question the point of life after growing up in them. The most common life of Necromundans is to die in the mines, slave away in manufactorums, collect metal junk, or become criminals. Those that wish to break away from mundane life or get rich quick become criminals. Shadow Traders sell illegal goods like hallucinogens, las-weapons, and Xenos lifeforms. The Hive gangs threaten the Shadow Traders for protection money as these gangs can outnumber and outgun whatever bodyguards the trader can hire. The gangs work to make the traders under them be the most profitable so they can squeeze more money out of their traders. This also means a gang will attack other gangs' territory to vesselize more traders or prevent rivals from gaining power

When one of many on-going gang wars starts the scale of killing is comparable to a poor Imperial world with a small rebellion. In all likely hood, hundreds of thousands of people will die including civilians as the hive gangs fight like small scale wars. Autoguns, autocannons, and las-weapons are used to perform raids, assassinations or urban assaults

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>>51130342
I like it. Shit but not shit out of cruelty on the part of authority.

I also like the idea of there being farms on Necromunda.

To expand on that, if I may, they could be one of the projects of the Adeptus Biologicus. In an attempt to lower the amount of food that needed importing some long forgotten governor commissioned a brotherhood to scour the Imperium for shit that would grow in the toxic ash and sludge that they had for soil.

Many such plants were found and other single celled extremophiles of all manner of categorization were discovered on far off worlds. SOme of them even with genetic markers that showed that they might have had ancestor stock on old Earth and come to the stars in the Golden Age in the early colonies of man.

The planets surface became covered in life. A thriving bustling chimera of an ecosystem constructed from species of a double dozen worlds, usually the sort of life generally found near volcanoes or on the "cold Venus" type of worlds. Sadly they couldn't find anything people could eat which was kind of the point that they were hired for.

It was nearly 200 years of tampering and splicing and selectively breeding before the first fruits of their labors were tasted. And it was another threes seconds before those fruits were spat back out. Although they had created a Terran/Xeno splice apple that could survive and even thrive in the temperate latitudes in the smog and the toxic muck it was not something that anyone with any choice would willingly eat.

The governor, grandson of the one who commissioned the endeavor, did not care. They could be boiled down to a nutritious slurry with almost all the taste removed. The Adepts were kept on to continue their works.

After a few thousand years there are great swathes of farmed land where none should be with harvests of things that by nature should not exist. They still haven't created anything that tastes lake actual food.

>>51131289
>They still haven't created anything that tastes lake actual food.
After a millennium the Necromundians just added "horrible" to the list of flavors alongside sweet, sour, bitter, salty, etc. Horrible is just another flavor now.

>>51109632

I honestly want to change those symbol to Isaha eyes crying but the rear drop is an Ace

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>>51131643
Sounds about right.

I can also see them classing "crunchy mineral nodule" as a food group and essential to the classic native Necromundan cooking style.

Necromundan cooking is considered a godsend by the Imperial Guard as after a childhood eating that sort of shit the prospect of real food at least once a day starts to look real appealing. Necromundans consider field rations real food. This amuses and mildly horrifies offworlders

>>51131854
>consider field rations real food
t.Romanian

>>51127176
Post the magical realm separately anon

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>>51109632
>What are the Scions?

The Tempestus Scion or also known as Stormtroopers, they are the specialized heavy infantry regiments that are broken down into smaller units. Once divided to battalions or companies they are attached to other units within the Imperial Army but can also serve under the Inquisition or Internus Sororitas. The Scions are known for their high dropout rates in the intense training but prove in combat at being the best CQC range soldiers in the Imperial Army. Scions and Stormtroopers differ in their training and equipment as they are given different tasks. Veteran Guardsmen or raw volunteers are first trained then deployed as Stormtroopers in the Imperial Guard. The Stormtroopers are only trained to fight in ground wars and are equipped as such. Stormtroopers are often given the task of assaulting fortifications and clearing buildings. Scions are volunteer veteran Stormtroopers who are retrained to fight inside void ships and infiltrate behind enemy lines. Their weapons are unchanged for the most part but the armor is of a lighter version that can withstand the vacuum of the void.

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>>51134671 (cont.)
>How is the equipment different?

The Stormtroopers are sent to the frontlines as the first ones to clear out bunkers, trenches, and building. Missions of that nature mean the Stormtroopers are given the deadly ‘Hot-shot’ Lasgun to one shot enemies at point blank range. The Carapace Armor worn by Stormtroopers is the inner most armor worn by Diffusion squads, thus can prevent shrapnel or shots from less than 50m from disabling the Stormtrooper. The Stormtrooper armor allows them to clear tight places with relative safety from explosives and suppressive fire. Other than that they hold the same basic kit as a Guardsman but with more explosives. The Scions when first founded noted that the Carapace Armor accelerated exhaustion while hindering movement for the user. These two factors played an important in crippling operators on independent infiltration missions. The Tempestus Scion developed the ‘Cephalon Armor’ which was a lighter version of Carapace Armor but still covering the same body parts while being stronger than Flak Armor. Cephalon Armor also comes along with a built-in antenna and shoulder mounted pic recorder that a commanding officer can use. The Scion’s basic kits are almost the same as the Stormtrooper’s but have an additional void survival kit.

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Have we written anything about the world engine? How goes the battle to destroy it now that the imperium's got the Eldar and more sense.

>>51135429
It has not been written yet. Very little has been written about individual Necron Lords or their artefacts.

>>51135429
>>51136179
Can't imagine it would change too much though, the canon story is one of the pinnacles of badass heroic sacrifice in 40k.

>>51137630
Nobledark any Astral Knights different? What sort of effect would the eldar presence have on the naval engagement? Would the imperium approach the surface/naval engagement differently from its canon counterpart?

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>>51135429
>>51138264

I would like to keep this the same.

The eldar would probably use the webway to transfer the marines into it

I prefer crashing a fucking battle barge into it

>>51135429
>>51136179
>>51137630
>>51138264
>>51138930

One major difference though. Rather than M41, in this timeline the World Engine attack happened in M34. There are two reasons for this. First, we have a severe lack of events between M32 and the Age of Apostasy. Secondly, moving the World Engine up to M34 increases its “OH GOD WHAT” factor and really foreshadows what the Imperium is in for with the Necrons. Consider the following. In M34 the Imperium is essentially at the peak of their power. The mortal followers of Chaos have been forced back into the Eye of Terror, the Orks are disorganized, and there are no tyranids, Necron Star Empire, or major uprisings to divert forces from other fronts. The Imperium is basically on top of things.
And then this World Engine from what is supposed to be an extinct race comes lumbering in from out of nowhere carving a swathe of destruction through the Imperium. No one knows where it came from. No one knows where it was going. All that anyone knows is that it shrugged off nearly everything the Imperium could throw at it, and its point defenses shot down just about everyone who tried to stop it about as easily as a human swatting a fly. The Imperium finally put it down at great cost, but a lot of uncertainty remained as to what this thing was, where it came from, and if something like this was going to happen again.

Fast forward to M41, and it turns out the mystery object was a Necron world engine. *A* Necron World Engine. As in they have multiples of the thing.

I was doing some writefaggotry on the Astronomican that mentioned the World Engine, but it doesn't really change anything about overall how the battle went (i.e., the Astral Knights doing their heroic sacrifice by ramming a battle barge into it). I will try to get the suggestion up when I can.

>>51138930

If you want, you could say the insane Necron void shields on the World Engine meant that they couldn't get access via the Webway.

>>51138930
>I prefer crashing a fucking battle barge into it
As did the accompanying wraith guard. If humans are gonna nobly sacrifice themselves to destroy a planet sized ode to the glory of the necron empire then the space elves are sure as hell going to be fighting as well.

>>51139649
"I suppose you're going to try to stop me. Say there's another way and teleport us in with some Eldar magic or whatnot".

"No, the void shields on the World Engine essentially isolate it from the Materium. We could not enter via the Webway. I'm here to say that if you intend to use this craft to desecrate this atavistic monument to the greatest enemy my people have ever faced, then my forces and I want in."

"So what you're saying is..."

"Chapter Master Amhrad, if you would, please take this battle barge and ram it into this obscene monstrosity's non-existent, Necrodermis-covered face".

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>>51130342
I have sooooo many questions about that pic. Not sure if heretical or just stupid; as in crazy-awesome-stupid

>>51142290
It the chainsaw boots that ruin it for me.

Everything else is so fucking beautiful.

>>51139084
We don't want the Necrons getting the big toys too early or it might seem ludicrous that the Imperium survive to 999M41

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>>51111371
You forgot;

>More insight about Lofn: >>51036321
>>51039129 >>51070926
>>51071019 >>51086334

Other than Altansar have their been any Craftworlds that have fallen?

>>51144844
No famalan, this was the OP from a duplicate thread I put up because I was too much of a lazy shit to see if someone had already made one

>>51134771
That is shit man.

A question

How much leeway can we get away with in terms of non-standard equipment?

>>51147533
I have just reread my post.

I have no idea why autocorrect hates me so much. It was meant to be That is great.

I am now faced with the knowledge that someone has taught my kindle how to swear or, more worryingly, it learned by itself.

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>>51147533
In terms of equipment the Scions would all carry the same Scion basic kit and standard CQC weapons but they can always have extra things with them or swap out weapons because their armor is lighter. It keeps all Scion companies mostly the same while having enough changes to complete very specific missions. All Scion squads are at least expected to take on CQC & infiltration missions.

The Stormtroopers on the other hand, just like their Guardsmen regiments, vary greatly from world to world. All Stormtroopers are expected to be assigned the task of clearing cramp locations and fortifications. Now, how they are trained and equipped to do that changes from regiment to regiment. The Cadian Karskins are made for storming buildings in urban combat while the Cadian Guardsmen maneuver quickly in city street fighting. Kreiger Grenadiers on the other hand would charge at fortifications and trenches before everybody throwing a grenade then jumping inside.

Stormtroopers from Feudal worlds might only have a Lasgun and a single grenade while carrying a shield with several melee weapons. Kreiger Grenadiers would hold even more extra grenades than Karskins. Hive world Stormtroopers might always carry Hot-shot Lasguns or Flamers due to the importance of high damage in fast reaction time weapons in urban warfare. The only thing standard is that they all wear some variation of Carapace Armor.

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Officio Tacitum archives have no record of subject "LIIVI" until after formal registry into Temple Vindicare, local site Carolus 5A. Sicarius investigation reveals earlier mention of a "Livvi" found during the Galbraith Campaign as a war orphan, and was subsequently drafted into the Cadian 412th under order of General Sturnn (See attached document, Cadian 412th draft order, signed by General Sturnn and approved by Lord General Castor), before disappearing from regimental records. Of note: this was the only draft order recorded that General Sturnn has ever invoked, and the drafted "Livvi" was recorded as being sixteen years old (the minimum draftable age without a state of emergency declaration from a planetary governor), while the "LIIVI" that the Officio Tacitum trained was estimated to be approximately ten years of age.

Background of the Galbraith Campaign was an attempt to uproot an insurgent assassin cult, headed controversially by (Still extant) Inquisitor Made. Ordo Sicarius records of this time include several criticisms of collateral damage, overzealous prosecution of war efforts, and an over reliance upon divination sourced intelligence. Despite this, Made was vindicated by proof positive evidence of old {SUPPRESSED BY ORDER OF IN JOACHIM, ORDO SICARIUS} and hard evidence corroborating such. Reports of whole sale massacre of juvenile combatants after capture provoked censure from the inquisition as a whole afterwards. Though tenuous, I request a formal investigation into ties between subject LIIVI and {SUPPRESSED}.
{Ed. Note: Denied.}

Problems with socialization and authority marred an otherwise excellent pupil from LIIVI's time in the Officio Tacitum's tutelage. Psychological assessors ascribed it to his unusual childhood, available at {SUPPRESSED}. Details are scarce- Officio Tacitum archives are spotty at best.

>>51150465
I like it. It feels solid and oddly true.

It's going on the 1d4chan as soon as I can.

By the age of nineteen LIIVI had an impressive roster of missions under his belt (I think. Every record is under three three levels of encryption with two interchangeable ciphers applied on top of that, typical bloody assassin nonsense) and it was decided LIIVI was ready for dedicated field work. Curiously, LIIVI was not assigned to a typical forward operating post that assassins are usually held in to answer summons from inquisitors. He was assigned permanently to a regiment of the Imperial Guard. The Cadian 412th. A year later of high value target removal and artillery spotting, LIIVI had his meeting with destiny when Farseer-Auxiliary Taldeer was assigned to the 412th.

Reports and interviews point to a formal relationship at the start. At this time, Taldeer was still engaged to Lithian Sylander as part of House Ulthran's politics (The fact that Sylander wasn't even born yet was no matter) so she remained aloof to all interest. Judging by interviews and journals, there was plenty of it. However, Farseer and Vindicare would prove to be an impressive combination. Mission after mission would lead to the pair working ably in concert to turn the tide of battle with a single well placed and well timed bullet.

But then there was the debacle at Lorn V and the death of Sturnn.

>>51150731
Freaking autocorrect: Inquisitor "Made" should be Inquisitor "Madek".

Anyway, more coming. Feel free to change however you like.

>>51150759
>Farseer and Vindicare would prove to be an impressive combination
now that you mention it, yeah, a combat oracle is a frankly absurdly good spotter for a sniper. I imagine that might actually become an imperial tactical doctrine, given enough time passed since the pair demonstrated its effectiveness.

>>51150809
>>51150759
Is there moar?

Plz say moar.

>>51150465
>>51150759
This is fantastic, meshes perfectly with the Assmaster fluff, LCB, and the setting as a whole.

We changed Imperial Internal Affairs from Sicarius to Securitas, though.

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Are the vampires are going to be around like in canon 40k? They are basically Nosferatu using Warp magic to look human. They act as parasites from the Warp that absorb human lifeforce to stay alive and use Warp magic. Normally they infiltrate human society to cause upheaval and chaos.

I hope to allow the addition of Lahmian vampires who are like Carmilla and Dracula vampires who actually looks like humans without the use of Warp magic. They would be entrenched in high society to manipulate the Imperium as a steady supply of food or spread suffering to gain Warp magic for unknown reasons. There is also the Strigoi who can't use the Warp to appear human so they live on the outskirts of Imperial settlements and hunt stray humans. Nosferatu vampires look like Strigoi but can use Warp magic to appear human but not as magically strong as Lahmians.

All vampires can use Warp magic to some extent at the very least weak levitation to raising armies of Undead troops and casting spells or performing Warp rituals.

>>51152123
Whoops.

>>51151254
Yes there is, but I had to drive home because I'm sick of autocorrect fucking my shit. When I fuck up, I want to fuck up on my own. Gonna start up again.

>>51152718
Check again homie, we have vampires but they're Ctan shards that got biotransfered into fleshy bodies that go around eating souls. I think it was mentioned most are descended from the Nightbringer?

On that note, I was thinking of a World of Darkness style method of creating new ones. After a Ctan vampire eats someone's soul, they could inject a bit of their essence into the husk, creating a weaker version. Also gives the original Ctan a group of vampire minions because they're in essence small pieces of the Ctan.

>>51153261
Their are also Decieiver ones.

Difference is that Biig D wants to basically hijack the Imperium by replacing the aristocracy and other high ups.

NB wants to hit the galactic reset button by killing everything and starting again.

General Sturnn was much loved by the 412th, and Taldeer and LIIVI were no exceptions. Though the details of that day are still unclear, and investigations are still ongoing regarding this {Ref. "Pariah/Untouchable Necron Interest" "Lord of Kronus" "Sea Prophecies"} the death of General Sturnn at the base of the Titan is a matter of heated debate for the 412th. Taldeer, LIIVI, Sturnn, and Sturnn's bodyguard entered the monolith, and only Farseer Taldeer, LIIVI, Commissar Gebbet, Preacher Coates, and Sgt Falker emerged. General Sturnn had fallen in battle, and Farseer Taldeer became Colonel-Farseer Taldeer. Rumor holds that LIIVI had to save one of the two and, under orders from General Sturnn, chose to save Taldeer over her objections. Or, perhaps it was that Farseer Taldeer (Affected by the aura of the Pariahs at the Necron Lord's command) had earlier blundered in her predictions, and LIIVI mistrusted her at a critical moment, leading to the General's death. Or perhaps Colonel-Farseer Taldeer took her rank seriously, and sought to head off a scandal of cross rank fraternizing before it started.

Whatever the case, interviews point to a rift between the two opening up. Where before they worked together efficiently, they sought their objectives separately.

Farseer-Colonel Taldeer would go on to lead the 412th newnotable new victories on Skaldheim, Kronus, and the orbital rings of Barrack Vol. Initial skepticism for an Eldar Farseer running an Imperial Guard regiment was replaced with acceptance, then aclaim. For the Imperium at large, here was the proof that Eldar and Humanity were better together. It also helped that Taldeer renounced her citizenship with Ulthwe, and her family ties in a formal ceremony to prevent any appearances of a conflict of interest. At the same time (If less famously), LIIVI was proving himself an adept agent as well, in most instances supporting the 412th, but notably also in independent operations as called upon by the Ordo Securitas.

A few notables are gunning down the feared Arch-Arsonist of Tarronis {Note: 'Gunning down' does not accurately describe the event, making it sound far too simple.The massive ork warboss required a full six magazines of exitus hellfire rifle rounds, and the full discharge of LIIVI's exitus pistol, and subsequently three blows with a chunk of concrete to the skull before the fiend perished), stealing the list of allegiant governors to the Children of the First Emperor's Conspiracy before they could coordinate a revolt, and being the first and thus far only one recorded to permanently kill a creature only known as Entity 218. Ordo Xenos as usual hoarding info. {INQ JOACHIM: Note to self, talk to Interrogator Garden about professionalism in reporting.}

Throughout the course of these operations, each encountered problems they couldn't handle alone. At first begrudgingly, then out of habit, they grew to rely on each other once more so they could survive what came. Commissar Gebbet at one point got involved, summoning the pair and announcing, coincidentally, that he had had to break up a cross rank relationship between two soldiers earlier that day, that it was clearly stipulated in the military code and regulations that an inferior and superior officer could not engage in any manner of romantic relationship of one another for fear of impacting their judgement in the heat of battle, and that he was very glad that the Colonel-Farseer would never stoop to any such thing like that.

A later report filed by Commissar Gebbet noted that his superior officer had 'emitted a string of profoundly foul utterances that disrespected his person, station, and heritage to such a degree that he was convinced for a moment that a particularly foul mouthed daemon of the warp possessed [Colonel-Farseer Taldeer] and he feared for his immortal soul for a moment" but that it had successfully convinced him that there was no relationship between the two.

As we know now, this was false.

>>51153351
So it is similar to corruption from within Slanneshi cults while "Gas the last" Nurgel goals. Right?

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At the same time as they were reigniting their duplicitous relationship {Inq Joachim: Professionalism, Interrogator.} they cultivated worrying friendships. LIIVI has been recorded meeting, and working with a team of assassins, even outside of the bounds of sanctioned Officio Tacitum operations. Though their identities still elude me (Damn the Officio Tacitum!), there is one eversor, a callidus, and a culexus. {Inq Joachim: Useless.} When Officio Tacitum agents fraternize outside of what is necessary for work, one should worry. Interestingly, LIIVI seemed to build a certain rapport with Ronahn, Taldeer's exodite ranger brother. This connection gave LIIVI (inconsistent) access to the webway, something very helpful for an agent.

Farseer Taldeer for her part focused on traditional politics, coming under the wing of Lord General Castor, and by extension, his ally Inquisitor Adrastia. Though still nominally a Colonel, Taldeer is becoming known on a galactic scale as a problem solver, and in demand at Imperial High Command. Accompanying that is a certain resentment. Despite generations of cooperation, some human officers still feel threatened and insulted that an Eldar commands humans. Presumably, after her recovery from the assassination attempt, and after her pregnancy has run its course, she and the 412th will be at the front lines once more, for good or ill.

The other connection is more interesting. Taldeer's unwillingness to associate with Ulthwe for fear of an appearance of conflicting loyalty does not extend to Cegorach's cult. The harlequins have taken an interest in Taldeer's fate, and often the Farseer disappears into the webway escorted by a troupe. Taldeer has offered no explanation of where she has gone, or what her arrangement with them may be, saying only that it is a very personal matter. Cegorach's ilk only answer in riddles not worth repeating. In any case, she is one of the rare few in the galaxy to reliably have harlequin support in battle.

>>51153829
To an extent.

In the case of NB he just wants to killings the other gods and rule for all time uncontested as the Grim Reaper with a crown, to reference Discworld.

Big D wants to have it as good as his idealized memories of the Old Necron Empire and believes that with a bit of time and effort he can turn the Imperium into his nostalgia goggles vision.

Reports indicate a growing closeness between the two again. At the Sanctuary Masquerade in celebration of the victory on Kronus, LIIVI was seen as part of Taldeer's honor guard. At the consecration of General Sturnn's memorial, the two were seen after the service in deep discussion. At Colonel-Farseer Taldeer's first thwarted assassination, LIIVI managed to evacuate her before harm came to her.

After every such occurrence, the two sought to hide their affair. Though we now know by necessity they would have had to be lovers after the Krasnitz Siege, I speculate that going by reports and overlapping leaves of absence, the must have reignited their relationship, their relationship started far earlier, perhaps just before the Sturnn memorial. Though the present court case in the commissariat argue that the both of them are outside of the traditional command structure of the Imperial Guard, and thus free of the rules against fraternization, the extreme secrecy undertaken to hide their relationship speaks to the reality- they knew it was wrong, and they sought to hide it. {Inq Joachim: Or they were just trying to have some privacy. Their relationship, and legality there of is a matter for the commissariat. Not the Inquisition. Next report, don't stray from the mission parameters again Interrogator, or you're going back to alphabetizing the whole of Tabula planetary archive.}

Which brings us to the modern day, and the unfortunate events of this past Terran month. The Sapiens Supremis attack, the death of Sreta Ulthran, and the reveal of the 'impossible' pregnancy of Colonel-Farseer Taldeer. The possibility of a natural born human-eldar hybrid is at once shocking and frightening. By my research, I do agree that the dates match up. The Farseer and the Assassin have had a relationship for long enough to match up the current state of gestation, and it has been an increasingly poorly kept secret.

In which case, we live in very interesting times indeed, on the eve of M42.

>>51154168
Oh shit this is good.

Shit is getting real. The Doomsday Clock has gone way past 12 and could be used as a ceiling fan at this point.

For all that she has seemingly abandoned and turned her back on House Ulthuran I can imagine Old Grandpa taking her side over Sreta's.

Also I really like the characterization of Taldeer.

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But the question is, how is this possible? They are far from the first in such a relationship. And for this, I have three theories.

First, divine intervention. The Harlequins took an interest in Farseer Taldeer for a reason. Cegorach or Isha are the most powerful extant that we know of. Isha would be most likely, seeing as she is a goddess of fertility. But the question then comes, why the Farseer, and not her chosen representative married to our Emperor? A trial run, perhaps. Humankind is famously skittish. To you and I, the notion of our great emperor having a divine heir would be a cause for celebration, but certain segments of the population might view this uncharitably as a seizure of power from an alien god, seeking to supplant their Emperor with a half god creature. The other possibility is far more unlikely, but it may be this is Cegorach's doing. Perhaps this is one of those famous pranks of his. For everyone's sake, we must hope this one of Cegorach's more benign pranks.

Second option points to the mysterious origins of LIIVI himself. Though I feel almost certain that the war orphan conscripted by General Sturnn is one and the same as the assassin we now know, I can not say that for certain. I have managed to attain a genetic sample of his at great expense (And great difficulty- Officio Tacitum enhancements) and it is currently being tested and matched against the general population, but as you know, the Imperium has many many people. It could take decades to find similar genetics, and even then, it wouldn't give us much to work from. However, the Ordo Securitas still has Inquisitor Madek's files on the Galbraith Campaign. They are currently sealed. I request permission to unseal them, and find the truth. Perhaps it was some manner of renegade human eldar hybridization program, or some adaptation of human to interbreed with eldar? {Inq Joachim: No. There is nothing of that sort in the files. And they remain sealed for a reason. Request denied.}

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The third option, I hesitate to even mention. There have been certain...Signs. Prophecies. My contacts in the Ordo Malleus and Ordo Xenos have offered me a great deal. Bleak fortunetelling from the Chaos Eldar describe something similar, an unholy union of our emperor and their queen. Weird boyz across planets hoot and holler, speaking of a beast returned, waiting on the other side of the veil for a great rumble. And possibly, most frightfully, I've been told in confidence by a most reliable source of great prognosticating power of the Great Devourer, the tyranids, seeming to converge on Farseer Taldeer's position. Something seems to be attracting them. Already, what few psykers that have been allowed to see Farseer Taldeer (She is currently recuperating in Eldrad Ulthran's care- frustrating my every attempt to investigate) have described a great calm, and serenity surrounding Farseer Taldeer.

Is it not true that, without synapse creatures to control the tyranid hordes, they go wild and revert to bestial primalism? And yet, when reintroduced to one of those synapse creatures they obey, regiment, organize, and act as one? And, though my hand shakes at this, my very spirit quakes, I must tell you to look upon the attached- a vision of this creature, this horrific possibility that may even know gestate, drawn in weak and fearful hand by that soothsayer, of the vision of what might become this child. Look now! See what lurks close by? The awful familiarity of the scene? Maybe this isn't merely a human-eldar hybrid, but something far worse?

I beg you, Lord Inquisitor Joachim, to take this seriously. The fate of our whole galaxy may rest on this!

{Final Notes: Inquisitor Joachim.}

{Interrogator Garden. I was wrong. You're not going to be sorting the archives. You're fired for this ridiculous nonsense. Please wait for security to escort you out of the building.}

>All done. Sorry that rambled on. Consider it an outline of events that I plan to flesh out.

Nice idea :D

>>51154565
I fucking love Inquisitor Joachim.

>>51154565
This is fantastic. I can't wait to see if Garden survives long enough to be equal parts smug and terrified.

Okay, this guy (>>51139084) here. I hammered out my blurb on the Adeptus Astronomica as fast as I could. Sorry if it doesn't sound that good, I wasn't able to polish it as much as I wanted.

“We are the ones who give of ourselves so that others may walk in the light”
-- Motto of the Adeptus Astronomica

Of all the professions available to psykers of the Imperial Schola, perhaps none is more honored than those of the Adeptus Astronomica. These are the people who make daily life in the Imperium possible with literally nothing more than their sheer force of will. The Astronomican represents one of the first major cooperative efforts between humanity and the Eldar. Although originally of human creation, its design was improved by the Eldar as a gift of gratitude for humanity’s participation in the raid on Nurgle’s mansion, greatly improving the efficiency of the Astronomican and strength of its beacon. Although original estimates based on the average ability of a human psyker suggested that twelve thousand people at once would be needed to power the beacon, Eldar modifications decreased the actual number of psykers needed by an order of magnitude, while drastically reducing the amount of stress on an individual psyker.

>>51155875

However, at the same time, no profession is more tragic than that of the Adeptus Astronomica. Creating a psychic “bonfire” that can be seen by the entire Imperium is taxing on the individual, even with twelve hundred other psykers to share the burden. As a result, the psykers of the Adeptus Astronomica are rotated out in shifts in an attempt to maximize their health, with a third of the choir being rotated out every four months. However, even this is not enough to prevent long-term damage. Few psykers live more than a year, and almost none have survived more than eighteen months. In the Halls of the Astronomican, right before one enters the Chambers of the Astronomican itself, there is a small, grassy courtyard, nearly empty save for a stele made of the hardest adamantium. On it is inscribed the names of every psyker who has died in the course of powering the Astronomican, a testament to their bravery so that the Imperium will never forget their sacrifice.

>>51155894 (cont.)
So this is the base of the idea for the Astronomican. If we need to mess with the numbers so be it, I just rounded down from the canon number of ~10,000. I came up with this idea for the Astronomican when I was thinking about what parts of the 40k universe could be most readily converted to a nobledark setting and I thought “what would be more nobledark than doing something which you know is going to kill you in less than a year, but at the same time knowing it will allow countless others to survive”. Specifically, I was reminded of what I always heard about the people who gave their lives to seal the breach during the Chernobyl incident. They knew the radiation would kill them, but yet went in anyway because they knew if they did not, many more people were going to suffer. I think it works well here, whereas in grimdark canon people are rounded up and essentially fed to the Astronomican and Golden Throne (at best being treated like favored livestock before the slaughter), here the psykers who join the Adeptus Astronomica are given a choice of what to do with their lives and yet choose to sacrifice themselves to allow people to live their daily lives.

The only issue I can see is that in canon, the Emperor was able to power the Astronomican directly during the Great Crusade, without any need for the sacrifice of psykers. Plus, given the rarity of psykers, a 1000+ man Astronomican can really only be powered by the Imperium once they have expanded into a large number of star systems. So why does the Astronomican need the sacrifice of psykers, beyond it being nobledark? The only thing I can think of is perhaps the Astronomican was sabotaged by traitors during the WotB, beyond the capabilities of Eldar and Imperial engineers to repair. And what about the Pharos? Since Gulliman is from Earth there’s no need for him to debate whether to have the Pharos shine on Earth or Ultramar since there is no Imperium Secundus.

>>51155934 (cont.)

This is the idea that involved the World Engine, and the one that I am not as sold on. I'm all for throwing it out if the thread doesn't like it.

When all else fails, when even normal methods of Exterminatus prove unsatisfactory, the Imperium has often had to turn to more drastic means. One of the more dramatic of these methods is something which some Imperial historicans have termed an “Astronomican Flicker”. An Astronomican Flicker starts subtly, like a tremor before a massive earthquake. This serves as a signal for all warp-capable ships to re-enter realspace as quickly as possible, and for all astropaths and navigators to hide in their saferooms until the event is over. Then, 24 standard Terran hours after the warning was issued, the intensity of the psychic bonfire of the Astronomican begins to increase. When the energy has reached a fever pitch, the maestro of the Astronomican’s choir, the Emperor of Mankind himself, enters the chambers of the Astronomican and adds his own psychic energy to the mix. He shapes and guides the energy of the Astronimican, giving the minds of the psykers direction and focus, and at the precise moment, unleashes the energy into the galaxy in a single, destructive blast. The beam of energy tears through space, temporarily distorting the fabric of both the Materium and Immaterium alike alike until it collides with its target, obliterating it in a blast of psychic energy.

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>>51155951 (cont.)

Despite the power of an Astronomican Flicker, this weapon is not a panacea for every manner of enemy. An Astronomican Flicker takes time to prepare, is somewhat predictable, difficult to aim, and cannot be used to track a dodging foe, making it best suited for use against a single, solitary target that cannot easily predict the onset of an Astronomican Flicker. An Astronomican Flicker is useless against a Black Crusade or the forces of the tyranids, as they are simply too nimble or too vast, respectively, to be accurately targeted by the Flicker. Similarly, an Astronomican Flicker cannot be used to simply blast the Eye of Terror, as a hole cannot be closed by something used to make a hole
.
As a result, an Astronomican Flicker has only been used seven times in the history of the Imperium. Perhaps the most notable use of an Astronomican Flicker happened in M34, against the Necron world engine. Although it was unable to completely stop the weapon in its tracks, it was able to cause some damage to the World Engine and crippled its void shields, allowing for more conventional forces to eventually destroy the weapon (i.e., the totally nobledark actions of the Astral Knights or some similar group). Additionally, the use of the Astronomican in this matter does not come without terrible cost. On average, about half the chorus of the Astronomican burn out every time an Astronomican Flicker is used. Aside from the more familiar stele, the only other feature of the Memorial Courtyard in the Halls of the Astronomican is a slightly smaller stele, on which all those who gave their lives to power an Astronomican Flicker.

>>51155971 (cont.)

So does this seem like too much power for the Imperium to have? I got the idea from the fact that so many 40k campaigns seem to use “hit it with a full-powered blast from the Astronomican for an instant” as a means of desperate, last-resort super-Exterminatus, and thought “why not here?” This isn’t something the Imperium uses lightly. It’s only reserved for Harrowing or World Engine-level shit, and more often than not it ends up getting Worfed (i.e., the Imperium is at the point where they’ll throw everything at the wall to see what works. If it’s resistant to regular Exterminatus, it might be resistant to this too but we have to at least try). A target not only has to be resistant to Exterminatus, it has to actively be a threat to the Imperium as a whole at the same time, and they can’t use it to one-shot anything in the Warp because of the lack of 1:1 correlation between realspace and the Warp.

>>51144533

The issue is if the World Engine just shows up in M41, everyone knows exactly what it is (although the sheer firepower would make people balk), and depending on the time the Emperor would either ask the Silent King what the fuck is going on or consider it an escalation of hostilities.

Also, it would be just the one World Engine, and one that got revived by accident, rather than on purpose. The rest of the actual World Engines (of which I image there aren't too many) have probably only just been fully reactivated by the Silent King as he attempts to bring the big guns out.

It's the equivalent of if a nuclear missile came blazing through the sky one day only to be shot down at great cost, and later analysis of the design shows it was built by an extinct civilization. How did they build it? How did it get launched? Are there more of them?

>>51152718
Lahmian vs. Strigoi/Nosferatu vampires is basically the difference between Deciever C'tan vamps verus Nightbringer C'tan vamps, as stated by >>51153261 and >>51153351.

Speaking of which, do we need a more specific term to refer to C'tan vampire than "C'tan vampires"? I was going to suggest Strigoi, but it sounds like that is already a thing.

>>51154168
Wait, Sreta is dead? When did this happen?

>>51156110
>It's the equivalent of if a nuclear missile came blazing through the sky one day only to be shot down at great cost, and later analysis of the design shows it was built by an extinct civilization. How did they build it? How did it get launched? Are there more of them?
Love it

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>>51154565
Thirding what >>51155228 and >>51155622 said.

>>51155971
>nobledark actions of the Astral Knights
They simply have to be included

>>51155991
>So does this seem like too much power for the Imperium to have?
how about that: single shot requires sacrifice of tens of thousands on Terra plus another couple of thousands guiding it towards the target
not to mention the effects it has on civilian population with milions dying or going mad on every planet it passes by?
also occasionally deamons


would that make it more balanced?

>>51155968
https://youtu.be/HsGRsDe3iRw
Something like this.

>>51156480
>They simply have to be included

Guy who wrote Astronomican thing here, I agree. I would rather have the Astral Knights ramming the battle barge than the Astronomican thing if I had to choose between the two of them.

>how about that: single shot requires sacrifice of tens of thousands on Terra plus another couple of thousands guiding it towards the target not to mention the effects it has on civilian population with milions dying or going mad on every planet it passes by? Also occasionally deamons

The Astronomican can basically only be fired once in decades, because it basically wastes half the choir at once and it takes a while to get replacements in, while at the same time you have a weakened beacon. And for obvious reasons, it can't be fired twice in a row because then we don't have an Astronomican. Also, how would they get tens of thousands of people to sacrifice themself? Do civilians just randomly drop dead? Maybe they end up using a whole bunch of potential Astronomican candidates at once (like overcharging an engine) and then you have more psykers burning themselves out on worlds closer to the target to make sure it hits. And then you get the psychic backlash like you mentioned.

>>51106036
Markiplier is an extremely conventionally handsome man.

>>51156720
>Also, how would they get tens of thousands of people to sacrifice themself?
You round them up on and then force them at gunpoint to walk into the furnace.

IMO it should be introduced as a theoretical possibility
mb a research team under Big E looks into a possibility of making life easier for psykers - and while discussing the possibility of increasing the amount of members of the choir smb mentions that they should be careful because if unleashed the power of Astronomican could be devastating

then we are introduced to the world engine and as events unfold Big E is reminded that his magical lantern can be turned into a gun but nobody knows the consequences plus there is not enough volunteers and they may have to use forced conscription

but not-death star is approaching Terra and they have to make a dramatic decision to just round up bunch of psykers human and alien alike and toss them into the fire hoping it works

but all it does is immobilize the thing forcing certain space marine chapter to disable it manually and collateral damage is way beyond what can be tolerated

story would end with Big E reading through reports of death and madness caused by his new gun monologuing to himself about how some weapons are not meant to be used

I like it when my protagonists actually feel the weight of responsibility on their shoulders and sometimes question themselves and the choices they made
but I am not a good storyteller myself so I just throw around ideas

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I want a picture of Taldeer in a fancy dress uniform like this.

>>51157848
me likes

>>51157208

Sounds way too grimdark. I love the idea of an Imperial weapons concept going horribly wrong and big E musing that some weapons were never made to be fired (not even the Astronomican in particular, just in general as a story). However, it would almost work better if the Imperium used what seemed like a non-morally repugnant, if theoretical, weapon out of desperation and then it turned out the weapon had all sorts of horrible consequences that the Imperium hadn’t forseen which made the weapon almost worse than the problem it was meant to solve in the first place. It would keep the "feel the weight of responsibility on their shoulders and sometimes question themselves and the choices they made", but it would be out of a legitimately bad or morally questionable decision that had consequences rather than an outright war crime.

Having them rounded up and forcibly marched into the Astronomican seems like the Imperium knows what it is doing is morally horrendous, and it really goes against the nobledark atmosphere that has been established. I mean, from a reader's perspective, how would we ever be able to look at Big E as a sympathetic character again if he did this, especially as this isn’t grimdark 40k where the "good" guys like the Emperor aren't "would be villains in any other setting except by comparison to the other monsters that inhabit this one".

If we do have a “fire once and then hopefully never again weapon”, maybe we should use it on the Harrowing, rather than the World Engine. That way the Astral Knights get to keep maximum awesome and we have a threshold for when the Imperium would be willing to break out something that bad again: when an entire fucking dimension is interposing itself on ours.

>>51142290
>>51143154
>Alpha Legion
She is trying way too hard to be edgy.

>>51154565
D'awww, that's a cute pic.

>>51157208
Too grimdark.

I can totally see the Vanilla 40K having that sort of shit happening but this is meant to be Nobledark.

jfc WHO THE HELL THOUGHT LEVEL SCALING WAS A GOOD IDEA

>>51156480
>sheer number of sacrifices on Terra
Nah, overly grimdark

>Warp shit
>Occasionally daemons
>Fucks up warp navigation around the area for a long time afterwards
Try this.

>>51159784
nice attempt shit for brains, also bump

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>this is meant to be Nobledark
everytime I hear that I imagine pic related

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>>51164111
I'd imagine this every time I hear it.

>>51155968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKUa0iREwE

>>51159563
the artist is nothing BUT tryhard edgy.

>>51166263
Actually it would make sense that a hive gang would be full of edgy kids just like in real life.

>>51166422
well,i'm just talking about the artist in general. Puts WW2 german helmets on renegade guardsmen in flak armour (not Kriegsmen mind you) because "Muh edgy nazis XD" and unironicaly calls Sisters and Living Saints for Mary Sues.

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>>51166532
Well tbqh he only goes full edge when he is drawing cyberpunk or 40k. Most of his Dune art look doesn't feel edgy at all.

>>51166638
huh that's actualy purdy neat, shame his 40k stuff left a nasty taste.

>>51111371
>Deus Ex Astartes
Literally what happened with the Dark Angles or Alpha Legion on Pheaton.

>>51161720
This.

Emperor would never allow it.

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>>51144844
no lofin no

>>51167059
It's fine, it's harmless. But only so long as it remains in a quarter mile of Lofn.

>>51154565
I'm imagining a sort of Blackadder and Baldrik type relationship between the Inquisitor and the Interigator.

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>>51135429
That thing reminds me of another flying head shaped object...

Do you think the Necron version talks as well?

>>51167037
That's why there had been discussion of reworking it.

>>51168065
If there was a change, I would make the SMs not fight on the frontlines but just have them on the planet carrying out assassinations and that's it. That way they are helpful but not too helpful for the IG regiments on the planet.

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>>51134771
>Where did the Lasgun come from?

The first instances of las-weapon technology came from Terra itself. It is thought to be a recreational weapon used in mock battles during the Dark Age of Technology. At that time these las-weapons beams had the power of 4mm stubber pellets where even thick cloth was effective armor against it. These relics were present on Terra and other worlds during the Warlord Era but it was the Emperor who reshaped it to become a lethal weapon. The Emperor’s scouts had presented him with some prototype weapons when preparing for the unification with Mars. One such weapon was the proto-Lascarbine that was superior to stubber carbines in all but firepower. The Las beams still had the power of a 4mm stubber pallet thus the Emperor in his intelligence recrafted the weapon so that it fired with the power of an 8mm stubber round. The Lascarbine first saw service as the replacement for the Autorifles which was the standard weapon for the Imperial Army in the unification of the Sol system. Next was the Laspistols which were design to replace the stubber pistols. The mass use of Las-weapons saw that the Lascarbine barrels started to warp after 5.000 shots and the Laspistol barrels warped after 2.000 shots. When these barrels warped, what would have been unmodified hitscan fire devolved to lose of accuracy where Guardsmen had to fire two or more times in the same place to get a hit. Even worst, when the Laspistol barrels warped soldiers had to fire at point-blank range to get hits.

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>>51168520 (cont.)
The Imperial Army Handheld Weapons Development Bureau would develop the Lasgun which had a longer barrel and limited the power to 7.9mm stubber round strength. Then changed the iron sights of the weapon to allow attachable optics and added a stock for increase accuracy. The first Lasguns were deployed to the front during the Hunting Era where it was noted that these weapons had effectively the firepower as the Lascarbines but the barrels didn’t warp until after 10.000 shots. When the Apostasy Era started Guardsmen on both sides reported the Lascarbines and Lasguns in night-time fighting left noticeable muzzle flashes thus making the shooter an easy target. The Weapons Development Bureau would again work on the Lasgun and Lascarbine just after the Apostasy Era, to create the attachable flash suppressor for better night-time combat. Then they also created the light attachable stock for the Lascarbine.

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>>51168598
>>51168520
I'm imagining the Inquisition commissioning the AdMech to make them weapons that fire in the UV range. AdMech comply with bad grace as they know they will never be able to flog it to the Impeial Army due to the way that it eats through the power pack reserves for fun.

>>51166713
Sorry if I dunno, but how does the guy's 40K art feel bad? Seems like normal grimderp depictions to me.

>http://td-vice.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>51154168
>The Sapiens Supremis

I assume this is one of the rebel-separatists and terrorists one anon suggested to include and is now officially part of this fanon right?

Specifically the human side and not the eldar side as those two are different types of separatists.

>>51169035
Fusilier:
>Should we be charging sir?
Officer:
>lmao don't worry they are only shooting at use with 7.9mm strength lasbeams against our Flak Armor.
Fusilier:
>OH GOD MY LEG IS RIPPED OFF MY BODY!
Officer:
>Uh oh...

>>51168520
>>51168598
>>51169584
Isn't the lasgun supposed to be equivalent in power to a modern day .50 BMG? I think I read something like that once.

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>>51170202
I mean maybe that might be canon but that doesn't mean it's true.
https://youtu.be/4z17InwlREI?t=11m29s
There somebody did a calculation on how strong vanilla Lasguns are and it is absolutely pathetic. The reason why I said 7.9mm strength is because it is still weak enough that it takes 3 or more shots to kill an Ork while being strong enough to dismember regular humans and Eldar. That and some of the lighter heavy stubbers are literally MG42s that also fire 7.9mm rounds and makes them just as hard hitting as Lasguns.

>>51168598
>needing a Weapons Development Bureau to put a stock on a rifle
Never change, 40k, never change.

>>51171532
Oh hi, Void Dragon. Now please get out of the fucking noosphere, your snarky pass comments do you no favours.

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>>51171532
>200 years to make the Lasgun
The AdMach is the same autistic anti-innovative organization like in vanilla. No doubt the development team was overseen by tech-priests and every stage of development was inspected then must be approved by Mars before processing furthe. The development team probably had to argue in court that each and every improvement they made on the weapon is not illegal.

>>51169157
well it just, feels abit too tryhard edgy.

He also drew Breivik, if that aint tryhard i donno.

His non-edgy stuff is pretty neat though, he has a good flair for cyberpunk and dune art.

Has there been anything written on the Unification of Mars?

I like to think that when they realized what was happening non Earth they stated to panic. Earth was rising, they wouldn't be able to compete with a unified Earth. They would have to unify and there's only room for one Fabricator General. Wars of subjugation start. The Dragon stirs.

>>51173771
The important question would be, when did Mars unify? If Mars unified before Terra than Mars would be almost the on same the playing field as Terra. If Mars unified after Terra than Oscar has a big advantage in 'negotiating' the annexation of Mars.

>>51174128
I'd vote for start uniting after Warlord gains momentum but catch up quick.

>>51174857
They're also watching Horus unify the migrant fleets in the asteroid belt and Lagrange points, and espousing similar ambitions to the unification on earth. We've included marsian mechanicus contact with the Antarctic mechanicus in Ferrus Mannus's backstory, and I was thinking of finishing the Fulgrim origin, and having the Terra's Children legion acting as Astartes NASA, working closely with the iron hands to build an initial void fleet and make contact with Mars and Captain Horus.

>>51174128
>>51174857
>>51173771

According to canon, the Unification of Mars happened about the same time as the Warlord/Emperor unifying Earth. During the Unification, the AdMech were just one of many factions that were vying for control of the planet, but the AdMech came out on top.

The fluff we have written for the Void Dragon says the Mechanicus first encountered the Dragon while they were unifying Mars during the Civil War.

In an earlier thread, I think it was mentioned the Warlord unified the solar system with the help of the migrant fleet and then came back to Mars with the offer of "you sure you don't want to join us?" The AdMech saw the writing on the wall and joined, but under heavy conditions. Does anyone know the exact thread?

I would second the "unify about the same time as the Warlord unifying Earth, maybe a little slower". If Mars unifies too long after Terra Oscar can essentially dictate terms to the Mechanicus (which would mean a complete overhaul of Martian political structure, for one). If Mars unifies too early then they might turn the Warlord down.

>>51168520
>>51168598

Are you the same guy who wrote up the specs for the Cadian shock troopers, Eldar weapons, etc.? If so, I have to say I greatly enjoy your work with this setting. I wish I had your talent in writing about military logistics, tech, and organization.

If not, I have to say I really like your lazgun work. Really makes it seem like it's an actual weapon people use as opposed to a flashlight like the memes say.

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>>51175847
Thanks, I was the one that wrote:
>Imperial Infantry Command Structure
>Scion/Stormtrooper
>Cadians
>Lasguns
>some battles and short stories
One Lasgun is still a meme weapon against Power Armor or stronger armor. 7.9mm rounds would just bounce off Power Armor while punching through Flak chest plate then KO the target. The Lasbeams can also dismember unarmored targets and riddle through concrete short of bunker walls. Heck, most humanoid targets can only take 2 to 3 direct shots before falling over bleeding.

>>51175847
>>51176877
Kinda makes we wonder, how many writefags do we have exactly?

Judging from writing style, I think the repeat writers are Primarchfag who wrote most of the primarchs (duh), Editfag, Sangyfag, Eldarfag (who I think also did Krieg and Assassins), and now it looks like we have Militaryfag.

Then it looks there are a few one-off guys: Khanfag and Fulgrimfag, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. No idea who wrote Void Dragon or the Eldrad Long Odds stuff.

Anyone else want to check in?

>>51178821
I'm Fulgrimfag, but only because I've been slowly working on Fulgrim between other things. I introduced Oscar being a man of gold and a bunch of the characterization for Horus, as well as the Abadon's arms snippet, Slaaneshi eldar philosophy, and the "post-scarcity, post-heroic" theme for the necrons.

>>51179145
Ah, didn't realize you were involved in so much. Good shit homie, keep it up.

>>51178821
I wrote a fair few of the primarch stories, then editfag came along and made them not shit.

Am I primarchfag?

>>51179986
If you're the guy who wrote the original Curze, Perty, Morty, etc. then yeah, you were who I was referring to.

>>51176877
The stories also written by me are:
>Bored Myrians
>Codex Tyranids intro
>Salvaging Necromundans
>Battle of Phaeton
>2nd Battle over Elysia
>Battle of Necromunda
>Codex Crone Eldar
>Frustrated Crone Eldars
>Apostasy Era My shittist writing
I can do more than military, but I just happen to do a lot of research into military history when I started writing in these threads. I hope I don't go full Matt Ward like how great the Imperial Fist are or write several pages on how Crone Eldars torture Imperial Eldar POWs like C.S. Goto would. If that ever happens just put a round to the back of my skull to end my madness.

>>51180404
The Crone Eldar are fairy wizard space pirates from hell, and with that in mind you will not go wrong.

>>51178821
There's also the Korodian Technocracy guy, and i don't now if the dudes who wrote Sister Jubblowsky and LCB 2.0: Nobledark Boogaloo! are included in the ones you postes or not

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Time to bump i see

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>>51169584
>lel don't worry its just a 7.9mm

Bump for writefaggotry in bound tonight.

>>51186284
Shit dude, i check this thread every few hours and see nothing, then i go to sleep and when i wake up i see 200 new replies

>fuckin time zones

But srsly, why almost everyone on this site is from America?

>>51175075
So the Mechanicum should have been the ones to unify Sol and set out on reunification of humanity.

They were the strongest factions in Sol pre-Warlord and really had no equal peers bar other Mechanicum factions.

But they were either too fractious or too complacent and didn't get their shit together fast enough.

Earth was the heart of the Great Crusade, not Mars.

I see the Void Born as the 3rd faction. Lesser than the other two notably but still substantial.

Warlord unites Earth (except By Brasil and a few hermit remnants). Sol Mechanicum only about 3/4 united under the Olympus Mons priesthood but still more powerful than even a unified Earth.

Mars reaches out to Horus, King of Empty Space. It's a perfect alliance, two sophisticated and high tech societies that can trace their heritage to before Old Night. What could be more natural than the alliance of Mars and The Fleet?

Horus had already sworn loyalty to the newly named Steward.

Mars now has to deal with Earth as an equal although they know full well Earth is stronger for all they won't admit it.

After the Alliance is formalized Steward helps Mars reach out to its estranged children and siblings as a sign of friendship but also because a stronger Mars only strengthens the fledgling Imperium.

>>51172054
Imagine the Admechs and other Techpriests (even the dank ones) in MIT. (Massachusetts Institute of Technology)

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>>51188211
>BREAKING NEWS: Cyborgs mass murdering rampage in MIT!
>Can their autistic anger be stopped?

>>51189324
No. Trad rage knows no bounds.

>>51186630
>But they were either too fractious or too complacent and didn't get their shit together fast enough.

The Mechanicum didn't even have full control of Mars when the Martian Civil War happened. According to vanilla, the AdMech were just one of many factions on Mars. So it was more than just reunifying a bunch of fractious AdMech priesthoods. It was more like if the Antarctic Mechanicus were the ones that unified Earth rather than the Warlord, though the AdMech probably controlled a much larger chunk of Mars to begin with.

>I see the Void Born as the 3rd faction. Lesser than the other two notably but still substantial.

That fits perfectly with what we have so far. Plus the stuff about the Migrant Fleet being close to Mars.

>>51178821
Khanfag here, am also the guy who wrote Void Dragon and Long Odds. And a few other things here and there, but it's the Khan and Void Dragon stuff I'm most proud of. Been trying to keep my head down because I don't want to dominate the conversation and I want to give everyone a chance to play in the playground.

Based on unique poster count and disregarding shitposts, I had estimated based on a previous thread we probably had around two dozen people contributing to these threads (lowball estimate). That number may be increasing.

>>51186564
I think most of the posters in these threads tend to be from the easternmost part of U.S./Canada or the westernmost part of Europe. The thread tends to stay afloat well during certain parts of the day, but at other times will often drop to the back of the catalog.

>>51186630
>so you're saying you'd rather be vassal to the terrawatt appostates' flesh smith than master of our every ship for perpetuity?
>you scorn the shipwrights of your forefathers!
>you scorn the smiths of time immemorial!
>what nerve you have, lord-admiral, what-

>Nerve, is it.
>Certainly, it is nerve, magos.
>He promised me a partnership, as fruitful and even as the bargain you propose.
>He'd have me be his indispensable confederate, until the end of my days, and lord or my people.
>I made sure he stood as I knelt to throne, and swore no oath he had not.
>I set the terms of my service, and I chose my mandate.
>the glit conquerer has amassed the treasures of man's eldest ruin, and he dotes mightily upon his subjects.
>more than that, he is unabashedly greedy.
>Oh yes, his greed for self possessed statesmen and commanders is vast, his appetite for men wiser than he insatiable.
>I am the admiral of my ships, and of his ships, and all ships he might gain henceforth, and of his navy just as my own.
>He is steward of my people, and he is bound to them, each and every, not just for as long as I hold them as one, but in perpetuity, so long as his empire stands.

>>51178821
Lazy unproductive shit here; haven't had a chance to clear up any of the mirrored shit on the wiki or do much apart from chip in occasionally, so if anyone feels up to the task of polishing (at least for the Primarchs), go ahead.

>>51186564
Eurobro here tho, and I toss a coin when I'm coming on that the thread'll either have a brazillian unreads or it'll have fallen off the bottom of Page 11

Didn't realise you were the same one who wrote long offs, though - that shit's fantastic

>>51172054
Development is naturally going to be slowed down when Chaos flat out claims several shapes as their own and their usage leads to the corruption of the device in usage.

>>51193053
Long Odds, even

>>51192813
Very nice.

>>51192813
>more than that, he is unabashedly greedy.
>Oh yes, his greed for self possessed statesmen and commanders is vast, his appetite for men wiser than he insatiable.

BTFO
T
F
O

I'd never thought I'd say this but BASED HORUS.

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>>51192813
Truly Horus must be a patrician compared to even Guilliman.

Hold on just a moment thread

>Sangyfag here, interrupting your regularly scheduled battles and heroism with continuation of the Eldar girl and Voidborn boy story from the last thread.
>In other words, more writefaggotry where nothing happens.
>Highly tentative working title: Under the Celaes Tree

Ch. 2

The girl and the boy are walking down a dirt road leading from the village down the valley. The sun, like most days, is bright but not scorching, warming their faces as it emerges from between the white clouds, and their feet kick up puffs of dust that the wind politely carries away.

“Where are we going?” asks the boy.

“You’ll see,” says the girl.

They walk on, crossing an old bridge spanning the river. Despite its age the bridge is sturdy and brightly painted, and they can see sandskippers amongst the white pebbles of the shallows and the slim dark shapes of fish in the pools and eddies. From there the path begins to slope up the side of the valley towards the edge of the great forest. They dig their feet in and start to climb.

After a few minutes the girl looks back at the boy, who is starting to pant. “Tired already?”

He shakes his head stubbornly.

She sighs and waits a moment for him to catch up. “You are doing much better than you were just a few days ago. You are less wobbly now and you have not fallen in a few days.”

“I’m getting used to the gravity. It’s still hard though, I always feel like I’m going to fall into the sky.”

“I’m sure it will get better.”

>>51189324
And by Mass Murder at MIT, the Admechs who visited the university slaughtered themselves in an argument whether MIT is OK or not that good.

>"I SAY THIS UNIVERSITY IS FINE AND DANDY AND LIVES UP TO ITS NAME! BEEP BOOP!"

>"NO ITS OVERRATED AND BOSTON SUCKS BEEP BOP!"

>>51198501
They continue walking, and after a while they stop by the side of the path to sit and rest on a log. They share a bite of crackers and water, and behind them a shepherd dog watches as a small herd of auoumblas grazes, bells gently clanking. An inquisitive one wanders over to the log and nudges the boy with its head. The boy half yelps and half laughs as it gives his ear an insistent lick and nuzzles for a bite of the cracker in his hand. The girl swats at it and shoos it away and it trundles back towards the herd, lowing indignantly.

They brush themselves off and continue up the path and soon they reach the edge of the forest. They step into the cool green shade dappled by shafts of sunlight that filter down through the canopy of saplings. Around them are the sounds of the leaves and trills of birdsong, and they continue walking deeper, the boy following the girl, and as they do the trees that surround them become older and taller, with gnarled branches thick as a man’s waist. A think blanket of fallen leaves and needles blankets the ground, muffling their footsteps, and the green shade fades into a murky dusk. All the while the boy’s mouth is hanging open and his eyes are wide, taking in the spectacle of the forest.

“So this is the forest…” he says.

She nods. “Amazing, isn’t it? My mother says some of these trees are even older than the village. Let’s keep going, we’re almost there.” She turns to leave, but the boy is still gaping at the trees towering above him. She grabs his hand and pulls him along, not noticing the blush creeping up his neck.

>>51198512
The clearing is about a hundred paces wide and ringed by trees very different from the ones they emerged from, slender and elegant instead of thick and gnarled, with delicate silver bark and translucent golden-green leaves. Though the air should be still, a breeze rustles through the leaves and the girl and boy’s hair. Thick grass and wildflowers cover the ground in the place of ferns and leaves and throughout the clearing are a few larger cousins of the silver trees, their glimmering trunks piercing through the forest canopy towards a distant sky. Windchimes hang from the branches filling the air with their crystalline whisper and thin blue vines wind their way up the trunks and through the leaves like fingers through a lover’s hair, and from the vines sprout delicate blossoms that glow like stars amidst the woodland twilight.

At the center of the clearing is a pool, still and clear, at the foot of the oldest and largest tree. It is so wide that twenty men could not have wrapped their arms about it, and deep lines and wrinkles are worn into the aged bark. The leaves have aged from a golden green to true gold and prayer banners are draped about its trunk and branches. Embedded in the crevices of the bark are brightly colored gems, thousands of them, a shimmering tattoo of a hundred colors, and at the tree’s base nestled between two massive roots is a white wraithbone shrine, intricately shaped and decorated, with a solitary statue of a female figure.

The boy is speechless. The girl sees his awe and smiles. “You have never seen anything like this before, have you?”

Finally, he finds his voice. “What is this place?”

“The sacred grove. This is where we honor our Mother and Eternal Empress, Isha.”

>>51198526
Slowly, they make their way through the grove.

“What are those blue flowers on the vines?” the boy whispers.

“I am not sure what to call them in Low Gothic. In Eldar they are elelasse, so I think it translates to something like ‘starleaf.’”

“’Starleaf’,” he repeats to himself. “Why do they glow? How come they aren’t anywhere else in the forest?”

“I asked my mother the same thing once. She said that their light represents Isha’s eternal love for us, so they can only grow in a place where Her presence is strong.” They approach the tree and spend a moment at the shrine, the gesture of the statue almost inviting them to sit and stay a while.

“Are those gems in the tree trunk?”

“No. Those are soulstones.”

“Oh. Sorry I asked.”

“No, it’s alright. This is a joyful place. We put them here so that the dead can be together with each other and with Isha for all eternity. Where they are it’s always peaceful, and warm, and they can be with family and friends.”

“So like a Craftworld’s infinity circuit?”

“Yes, like that.”

They stand there for another moment, their eyes following the intricate patterns and swirls of color where the inlaid soulstones climb the great trunk of the tree. Then the girl turns to boy and says, “Come on, there is one last thing I want to show you.”

The girl leads the boy around the spirit tree and they head towards the rear of the sacred grove where a large rock formation rises from the ground to form a sheer wall. They approach the wall, and the girl pushes aside the undergrowth to reveal a hidden crevice in the rock large enough for a person to fit through. The boy and the girl scurry through and find themselves in a smaller clearing.

>Goddammit, missed a blurb, this should go between this >>51198512 and this >>51198526

The path is before them is still clear despite the thick vegetation around them, carefully brushed free of fallen leaves, and as they continue the undergrowth grows tighter, thick brush and ferns pressing at the sides of the path. The boy notices the air growing warmer and strangely fragrant, the smell of flowers and spices startling against the earthy scents of the forest. All at once the path ends and the girl and boy emerge from the dense undergrowth into a shaded clearing.

>>51198541
The clearing is bounded on the three sides in front of them by thick, impassable hedges, and in the center is a small tree with a slim brown trunk and branches that spread archly to form a shaded canopy. The leaves are small and purple, and from the ends of a few stems sprout delicate flowers of a shimmering iridescent crimson, no larger than a thumbnail. The distant sun shines down through a gap in the forest canopy, and the blossoms catch the light as they shift and for a few moments they are pink, then violet, then crimson again. The air is filled with a gentle fragrance that to the boy smells like oranges and cookies and his dad’s recaf and his room on the Fidelitas and his old blanket and his mom’s hair. It smells of home.

The girl walks over to the tree and lays her hand on the trunk, patting it gently. She looks back at the boy. “This is my tree.”

“It’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.” They sit together at the foot of the trunk.

“My mother planted this for me,” she says. “She was pregnant with me and was tending the grove when she found this place, hidden away, and she knew she had to plant something here. Only my mother and I know of this place, not even the priestess does. And know you do too.”

The boy leans back against the trunk and looks up at the leaves and the flowers and inhales deeply again of the heady air. “What sort of tree is it?”

>>51198578
“A celaes tree. My mother said it is one of Isha’s favorite creations, created when she stood up to Khaine to save the Eldar. Khaine hit her in his anger made her bleed a single drop of blood. When it touched the ground the first celaes sprouted, so it represents Isha’s compassion and bravery.” She pauses as she pulls her legs to her chest and rests her head on her knees. “They even say the tree has a spirit and can bond with your soul if it picks you, and that once you’re bonded you can always feel the tree in your heart and find your way back home, no matter where you are.”

“Just now, when I smelled the flowers, it smelled like home,” he says.

She smiles. “The magic is working.”

There is a moment of silence.

“How come there weren’t any celaes trees in the grove?”

The girl shrugs. “They are very rare and die even when planted, and no one knows why. My mother knows the most about planets out of anyone in the village and even she is not sure, though she said she thinks it is because a celaes needs to be bonded to someone to live and that they’re very picky.”

“You are very special then.” He looks into her eyes as he says it, and to her surprise there is not a hint of sarcasm or teasing. She turns away so he cannot see the blush creeping up her neck.

“Of course,” she says.

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>>51196030
Decided I'd draw him too

>>51198589
The boy plucks a few stalks of grass from the ground. “I just thought about home, and I can’t believe I’ve been away from the ship for two weeks already.”

The girl looks down. “And soon you have to go.”

He nods. “The captain will almost be done trading and most of the cargo will probably be onboard by now.”

“I don’t want you to go. I’ve never had a friend like you.” She sitting in a tight bundle, her arms curled around her legs.

He sits up. “Like how?”

“Someone who doesn’t treat me different. Who treats me like me.”

He doesn’t know what to say. “Well, it doesn’t have to be goodbye. Our ship trades in this sector and I’m sure we’ll be back soon.”

She looks up. “You have to promise to come back to the village if you’re on the planet,” she says.

“I’ll come back to this very spot.”

“Swear it then. That we’ll always see each other again and again, right here under my celaes tree.” She holds out her hand.

“That’s a promise, I swear.” They wrap their pinky fingers, hers against his, and shake firmly.

They sit a while in a comfortable silence. Then, he asks, “So what are you thinking?”

“I think we should just sit awhile. It’s nice, isn’t it?”

“Yeah, it is.”

The air is warm and fragrant, the tree solid behind their back, and the sun gentle on their skin. And so for a while, they sit together.

>End Ch. 2
>Thanks again for reading homies, let me know if this slice of life stuff is interesting to anyone and if the prose is making you puke

>>51198606
Sorry, been absent for sometime in this thread, but whats this sstory about?

>>51198602
Tell me who to do next. I'm trying to decide between Oscar, Sanguinious, or an Art Deco Astartes.

>>51198617
It's mostly about nothing, just slice of life about an Eldar girl and a Voidborn boy being friends.

Part 1 is here 3/4 of the way down the page
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/50874097/

>>51198602
>>51198636
That's great and it looks very characterful. You get the impression that yes indeed you could buy a second hand space ship from him.

Oscar for would burn my vote.

>>51198606
Oh god the cuteness overdose. I got diabeetus. Moar?

>>51198814
I was aiming for a mix of Horratio Nelson, Grand Moff Tarkin, and vanilla Horus.

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>Before the 52nd Myrian Cavalry Regiment was deployed to Ultima Segmentium
>+Death world: Myr+

Layan Harb was not particularly that much stronger or faster compared to other PDF troopers but she was a great shot. In the mock battles out in the vast deserts of this dust ball, accuracy would be a great trait just because of the lack of cover. The heat was rising off of the dunes and engaging targets at long ranges was becoming pretty much impossible as the twin suns set. Harb’s squad was code name “Kordoba”, after one of the local cities which the members of the Harb tribe still considered pretty foreign. Even after hundreds of years of unification since the end of the Great Crusade, cities like Korboba and Merako where still considered foreign to half of Myrians. “Come on now open up you bags again!” demanding Layan as her squad groans at the surprise inspection. With just waiting for nightfall to arrive Layan decided to pass the time by inspecting her squad’s kits just like two days ago. Eyes and hands dug through everything in the bag to try to find any trace of alcohol. “It seems like there are no more contrabands this time, well I don't think you guys enjoy being forced to watch a whipping, judging by how some squirm like children or looked away” Layan said.

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>>51199103 (cont.)
Indeed she had found a canteen of ale in the last inspection then dumped it into the sand in front of the owner’s eyes. The boy was 17 or 18 making him at least 3 years younger than Layan, he probably didn't even spend a year in the PDF yet. Right then and there, the boy drew his dueling dagger then shouting “I, Nesem Hame, formally challenge you, Layan Harb, for attacking his honor!” Followed by snickers from the squad and a laugh from Layan. Normally these types of duels shouldn't result in death or even blood if both duelist are skilled enough, but there was the fire of reckless in Nesem’s eyes when he attacked. Layan threw a dagger between right between his legs before he could react, causing him to slow down and trip up. In the confusion, Layan used the basics of Close-Quarters-Combat she had become familiar at, to disarm Nesem. He tried to back away but was caught with a left jab then a right hook followed by his right arm being twisted and a leg sweep at the same time. People would be surprised how painful the human head can feel being slammed into the sand. With his right arm still being twisted behind his back and a knee on him, Nesem was as helpless as a flopping fish in the middle of a desert. Leaning close to his left ear to say “You lost your honor and I retain my rank” before Layan ordered a trooper to tie his hands together on the front.

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>>51199116 (cont.)
It was dawn when Kordoba squad was made to stand at attention and face Sargent Harb with Private Hame tied to an old wooden post before anybody could eat breakfast. The upstart greenhorn was stripped of everything above his waist as he stood still in dread.
“You all know that alcohol and alcoholic food are sacer within all Myrii military and police forces, except for medical alcohol.” Layan would force a cry from Nesem with a whip.
“It is expressly forbidden via the holy laws written on the first palm leaves.” Whipping again but was careful not to draw blood.
“Not to mention in this grand desert, I don't want to see my subordinates accidentally committing suicide by dehydration!” Another lash hits the back yet avoiding striking the same place twice.
“We should know that suicide by our own hands is also sacer by the holy laws. I swear to my ancestors if I find another drop of alcohol in Kordoba squad, I’ll think of something worst than 50 lashes for all of you!” There was 47 lashes to go and time seemed to slow down as the whipping went on. Finally with Layan breaking a tiny bit of a sweat she had finished while Nasem laid slumped on the ground. “Medic, cut the rope and fix him up. Make sure he doesn't have permanent damage.” Rushing on the trooper with a hand gesture. She rubbed her forehead and dismissed everybody before whispering, “I can't believe I’m going to be a Guardsman” then sighing.

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>>51199116
>used the basics of Close-Quarters-Combat
you sneaky little shit

>>51200026
You do realize the very idea of close quarters combat is not always Metal Gear you know? Meme loving shit heads.

>>51199130
It's nice, really nice! I just can't see where this is going, and i am curious to find out!

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With the Cadians are their eyes normal bar the iris colour being purple or do they have eyes purple from edge to edge?

>>51201505
Probably just thr iris from what I could gather.

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>>51200729
Of course I do, but literally straight up saying "use the basics of CQC" is meme bait of the highest tier

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>>51200729
The line "basics of CQC" is uttered in several different MGS games.

>>51201932
Is it genetic or something in the water?

>>51203269
>prevalence of violet eyes amongst the populace was seen as a mark of mutation caused by the Eye of Terror, which also appears violet
Found out by the Word Bearers Legion before the Horus Heresy.

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Should the Aspect Temples of the eldar remain the same?

Also how does the Imperium, the human half of it, view the Phoenix lords?

>>51204878
We have them existing, at the very least. Phoenix Lords were mentioned to take part in the raid on Nurgle's mansion. Howling Banshees were mentioned a couple of times.

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What successor chapters have we come up with for legions that fell in vanilla?

I recall the Thousand Sons have been set up as diverging into the Grey Knights, Thousand Sons (chapter), Ahriman's prodigal Daemon Breakers, and the Blood Ravens.

I'm particularly curious what the Void Wolves chapter becomes after Abaddon Lupercal's death fighting against the first black crusade, since here he's Horus's actual son, holding both the legion and voidborn people together after his father's death as the last man to hold the title "King of Empty Space". After his death the Voidborn people can't agree on a new king, return to their decentralized dynasties, and the Void Wolf astartes drift apart with them.

I'm also curious about the fate of the Night Lords after Cruze had himself executed for war crimes. They brought Vostroya to heel, but how they end up as a legion is yet to be elaborated on.

Alpha legion is implied in their bit to be embedded in the roots of the inquisition, but the other stuff like the bits we have concerning the illuminati conspiracy treat Alpha legion, Inquisition, and mechanicus as independent interests, containing the 'illuminated' few between them and some other imperial factions.

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>>51206756
Thousand Sons, or at least Magnus, were also instrumental in the creation of the Exorcists although unknowingly.

Void Wolves broke up to found the Void Wolves (chapter/regiment). Overwhelmingly Void Born stock and therefore not any sort of super soldier. It's more a sort of escort fleet that protects the Merchant Navy from space bandits.

Luna Wolves. Again mostly Void Born and a detachment of the Imperial Navy and based out of Luna which is know. They are very well trained captains and crews, legacy of the migrant fleets of Old Sol in ancient days.

Black Legion. These are the actual Space Marines. They call the worlds of the Cadian Gate their home and recruit from there and nearby systems. Still operate much as a Legion of old but with the emphasis put more on garrison duty.

Sons of Horus. The secretive Void Born brotherhood/priesthood and Space Marine guards that guard the Tomb of Horus and the Corona Nox that rest upon his sarcophagus. They originally only had one ship and were more of a sort of traveling court and final authority in Void Born legal arguments and internal disputes. At some point they laid claim to a Blackstone Fortress and incorporated their ship into it. Couldn't get the damn thing to work and had to call in eldar assistance and finally own up to holding one of their historical and cultural relics. Tomb of Horus is now a strange amalgamation of eldar and human starfort wrapped around a fragment of Old One greatness.

Night Lords are uncooperative with Imperial authority but not quite criminally so. They seldom follow orders, they almost never make reports, their methods are fucking abominable and they are awful people on every level. As such they find themselves at the back of the line when it comes to new ships and equipment being issued. Insufferable cunts like the Marines Malevolent and others who don't give a shit about "civilian casualties" and "war crimes" and other such things.

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>>51207140
Their methods of warfare were well suited to small groups and so they are found very scattered around the galaxy. Very little is known about them, not even how many there are, and less about their inner workings. They seem to have a single leader still that unites all the distant groups but nobody knows who the fuck it is. All that is known is that they are awful to deal with, do awful things but don't do it to citizens of the Imperium.

Alpha Legion even less is know about. It seems that Alpharius is still around, or at least an Alpharius is around. Less/no sign of Omegon for a long time. Maybe he is dead or if the titles are handed down maybe nobody has picked up the name again. Or maybe, if it's title, someone one time did something too awesome to live up to or so awful that nobody wants to touch the mane again. Or possibly the titles at some point were merged into Alpharius Omegon and then some time later abbreviated back down to Alpharius

Do they lead or do they just represent the Legion with only minimal authority as a spokes person? Who knows.

Emperor knew more then most when he gave him/them the rank of Primarch but even that wasn't much and that was a literal age ago so any information will be out of date in any case. It is claimed that they were part of a group known as the Illuminated but there is no proof that they exist. It is said that the Legion of the Hydra/Alpha Legion were the militant arm of this organization.

Others claim that the Illuminated are the surviving human branch of the ancient and long thought extinct and extremely secretive multi-species institution known as The Cabal.

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>>51207463
It is also said that the Hydra is a cross-Ordo group in the Inquisition that adopted and sponsors the Alpha Legion but did not actually commission their creation. Others say it's more of a partnership or business like arrangement; information exchanged for services both ways.

Others claim that The Hydra is an entirely different collection of people that have infiltrated the Inquisition on the behest of the Hydra/Illuminated.

And their is a chapter called the Omega Marines who primarily operate out on the galactic east and often volunteer their services to the Inquisition but nobody has been able to draw any links beyond them being helpful.

Some claimed that the Alpha Marines were Space Marines in the service of Cegorach. This would explain their odd abilities, methodologies and the fact that nobody can figure out what it is they want. Ceggers did answer this one when he was asked directly by an Inquisitor who managed to track the Dark Carnival. The Harlequin point blank denied any involvement with the Alpha Marines. The fact that The Laughing One gave a straight answer is suspicious but nobody knows what it is suspicious of and for all Cegorach's flaws he seldom tells a direct lie and instead prefers to hide behind clever/annoying word play.

All that is known is that a bunch of tight lipped, presumably, Space Marines in power armour sometimes turn up without warning or asking and fuck shit up in war. Sometimes they turn up in peacetime and just stand around looking ominous or out of place. Sometimes they act as body guard. Sometimes they act as assassins. Sometimes they seem to fight themselves, or people who appear to be their own people but in such a secretive society how can anyone else know.

Possibly they are fractured and some pieces work for different masters or are masters themselves and are all working towards different goals. Most do not harm the Imperium although some do so maybe some have also fallen from grace.

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>>51207140
Wait what, Void Wolves are definitely still Space Marines, you can still be a Marine if you're Voidborn as long as you have genetic compatibility.

Also in this Imperium the Night Lords and Marines Malevolent would probably be on a short leash by the Inquisition or at least be on permanent Penitent Crusade against enemy worlds so that they're as far away from civilians as possible. Could lead to interesting an interesting situation where the Night Lords are perpetually undermanned and undersupplied and sent against the enemies fortified worlds in the hope they die out, but they keep on surviving against the odds. Despite their resentment at how they are treated, they stay loyal due to their sense of duty and commitment to an Imperium that despises them.

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>>51209628
Fair point about the Night lords. Also given that there isn't a genetic difference between Space Marines of the same design due to progenitor the Night Lord derivatives could be the place where other chapters send their sadists.

The Void Wolves thing. Void Wolves were Horus' Legion name in the Great Crusade. To be a Space Marine you have to be able to fight effectively on planet surfaces or at least on ships that have real gravity because boarding actions.

Void Born like Horus live on ships with weak pussy gravity and also Void Born would be too physically frail to survive transformation to Space Marine even if there was not genetic incompatibility issues and it's never been stated how close Void Born are to Baseline in this regard. Although previously it was mentioned that the Rejuvenants the rest of the primarch were enjoying weren't very compatible with Horus which is why he was the next one to die after Angron.

So the Space Marines of the Luna Wolves would have to have been of planetborn stock.

Horus was using the Imperial Navy, his position as Primarch and the widespread and well suited nature of his people to try and establish the foundations of his benevolent transhuman ambition and grand scale social restructuring. To that end the Imperial Navy, Legion and King of the Void Born positions all get tied together and intermingled with nobody sure where his peoples internal tribal allegiances, Navy hierarchy and Legion hierarchy begin and end only that he is the man with the crown.

This works up until Abaddon dies without successor and it all starts to unravel and to prevent unpleasantness the shit gets divided up.

Void Wolves was the name of the Legion as a whole that also contained huge chunks of what should have been the navy and also quite a lot of the much expanded migrant fleet. Also elements of all those found in all the other pies as well.

The Void Wolves after the Grand Division didn't inherit the astartes bar a few anti boarding teams.

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>>51209948
Or that's how I see it anyway.

Maybe they kept rather more astartes on the ships than was strictly necessary for mere anti-boarding specialists and other such nebulous designations.

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>>51209598
They look like a bunch of Sisters that work for the rich Inquisitor Samus who really likes HUGE pauldrons. Then they were personally refitted with extra powerful armor.

>>51209948
>the Rejuvenants the rest of the primarch were enjoying weren't very compatible with Horus which is why he was the next one to die after Angron.
An entirely plausible story held as true by the Sons of Horus and official Imperial history. They forward this unusual reaction to rejuveants as an explaination of the Lord-Admiral's recorded vigor and mental acuity even unto the last years of his life, as well as his ceremonious abdication to prince Abaddon several years before his death. It has been relegated to obscure tomes that the Lord-Admiral spent those years assembling an entourage of notable captains as he flitted between the systems of the imperium. It is sure that in this time he threw his considerable clout into numerous ambitious projects, and was often present in the orbits of Old Earth, Mars, and Jupiter, as well as the systems of Chthonia and Prospero. Of all his works in these last decades he is recorded to have shown great interest in the creation of an imperial capital upon the Chthonian ring, in the work of the martian explorator fleets, and in the collaborations of Fulgrim and Ferrus Mannus. This is acknowledged to have laid the groundwork for much of the imperial navy's own capacity for independent sustenance and development. As well, the order that would become the Sons of Horus has its roots in this period, intended to see his vision of a humanity truly suited to interstellar civilization into the future. Horus died nineteen years after his abdication, and was entombed on his personal warship. This tomb has never been opened.

One more bump to see if there's still interest

>>51106099
>Shah-Dome
They would spell the first part "Shaa," actually. Trust me. I'm a professional.

>>51214399
There is, we're just slow. I'm waiting to see what people think of the Horus conspiracy.

>>51214582
A professional what?

>>51215435
Is good. Much liek.

Craftworld Il-Kaithe has had a somewhat tumultuous relationship with the Imperium and indeed it's other craftworld kin. They are politically well in the Eldar Supremacy camp although not quite to the same degree as Dorhai. They were one of the last craftworlds to join the Imperium, maintaining independence well into M33 and even after keeping humanity at arms length.

Their reasons for joining was not out of any sense of spiritual kinship, promise of trade, need of protection or the asking of the everliving and Serene Empress Isha. They joined because enough lesser craftworlds had done so that they could work through them as intermediaries so as not to have to deal with the lesser races directly.

Up until this time they had been quite close with Dorhai and the two of them had been in the preliminary stages of starting some grand alliance of Pure Eldar by roping some of the exodite worlds and lesser Craftworlds into their folly. Il-Kaithe siding with the Imperium essentially removed a great keystone from the fledgling alliance and earned Il-Kaithe an eternal blood feud with Dorhai that exists in perpetuity.

Il-Kaithe itself is located at the galactic south-west border of the Eye of Terror and has weathered storm after storm of the Great Adversary. Although they have not come under fire to the same degree as the Cadian Gate they also don't have the same defences or resource allocation of the Gate Worlds and so their wars have been no less desperate.

One of their points of contestation with the Imperium at large was their attitudes to the Dark Eldar. They still saw them as kin. Pretty reprehensible kin but kin nevertheless. they would send missionaries to the dark cities and trade goods and services of all kinds with many of its Kabals and Noble Houses in times of peace and try and avoid fighting them directly in times of war. This won them no friends with any in the Imperium, eldar and human alike bar the most radical.

>>51217858
This has changed with the unholy marriage of Lord Vect and Queen Malys. Now, so far as they care, there are no Dark Eldar. There are only Chaos Eldar in Commorragh, the Dark City has fallen to the enemy and it's people are now not only damned but also forsaken.

The missionaries have been recalled, the trade has stopped, war is declared on what were once kin.

Although relatively few in numbers compered to the larger and more prestigious craftworlds they are formidable. they have sat on the edge of the Eye for ten thousand years and have been far too proud to call for help. Il-Kaithe itself is an ugly mass of turrets, void shied generators, military ship yards, training grounds and other such fortifications.

bumf

>>51218030
I like it, is there moar?

It keeps the demise that the eldar are still or at least can still be arrogant pricks but without them needing to be the outright villains.

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>>51199130
>+Sub-sector Alt Wald, Ultima Segmentum+
>+Feudal world Talabecia, Imperious System+
“As of today, the 52nd Myrian Cavalry Regiment will be merging under the 518th Myrian Light Infantry Regiment,” told Elatyra to the gawking Myrii squad. “What!?” yelled Layan while looking up to the at least two-meter high Craftworlder that announced the news. “That means we have to change all our emblems and coloring to the 518th and not to mention reorganizing the officers,” told the normally reclusive heavy stubber gunner Sind.
“Why didn’t we just fall under another cavalry regiment?” asked Layan.

“There is no other cavalry regiment in the sub-sector,” said Elatyra emotionlessly.

“B-but we aren’t light infantry”

“Do you have motorized transports or heavy armor?”

“No”

“Is most of the regiment full of infantry?”

“Yes, but that doesn’t mean”
Elatyra cut in with “So as far as the Administratum is concerned, you fall under the light infantry category.”

“We use horses and camels to travel around on the front! This regiment is nothing like the 518th”

“I am merely the messenger if you wish to file a complaint try visiting Terra”
The quick rebuttal halted the conversation before Layan could throw more angry comments towards Elatyra. "Is there any other news, my lady?" asked Layan with the nickname she was starting to be fond of using.
"Another search and destroy mission at the town of Lieske"

"Oh..." followed by the strong silence of morbid curiosity and the question "Why?"

"Apparently this place failed to build enough statues of our God-Emperor Vandire in time."

"Oh..." followed by the strong silence of morbid curiosity and the question "Why?"

"Apparently this place failed to build enough statues of our God-Emperor Vandire in time."
Layan turned around to face her squad with the stony mask of a face then addressed them to make sure Sind has extra heavy stubber ammo this time.

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>>51224348 (cont.)
The villagers were gathered from the lands near this heavily fortified Inn. Lieske had ramparts, walls, and arrow slits for defense but even these things did little to stop the 518th Myrii Guardsmen. “Abur all dies volk!” begged the old man in an attempt to spare the townspeople. “What is he saying?” said Layan to the translating Eldar.
“Something about trying to save all these people, honestly the Telabecian Low Gothic is a bit too different for even me to translate properly.”

The Sargent turned around to Sind who was aiming his 7.9mm Heavy Stubber then she gave the order to fire. The stubs were fired with the accompanying sound of something like a buzz saw going off then the life of the villagers escaping from their eyes. “Find anybody else alive in this Inn and village but don’t waste ammo just use you bayonets then let the flamer pair burn the buildings,” Layan ordered while holding back something else that might have slipped out of her mouth. Breathing heavily and trying to keep herself in check the Myrii officer didn’t like acting like this. “Remember, we are here to search for anything in this area and destroy everything in this area, yes that includes the animals. So I don’t want to find another cat running around in the rubble this time.” When Layan was about to start walking around the village Elatyra called her over after listening to a vox-caster. “We have a problem” told Elatyra before whispering the orders. “Are you sure about this?” asked Layan whilst staring into Elatyra’s eyes for confirmation.

The reply was a slow nod from the Eldar then Layan had to ask “How are we going to deal with them?” In hushed tones, they talked about this new revelation. “Naser and Fashem get over here” said Layan while waving them over.

>>51225310
Good ol' Vandire bringing the grimdark.

Any moar?

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>>51225310 (cont.)
The two Myrii ran over with bloodlust in their eyes or childish glee. “Can you guys see that hill over there?” The two responded by nodding “Go over there and scout ahead of the squad for us.” Then as they were heading off, Layan drew her Laspistol on her right hand and a dagger on her left. Unknowingly, Naser was shot on the back of his head as he was walking away from Layan. Fashem threw her Lasgun around in reaction to the shot and fired wildly. Three Lasbolts flew passed Elatyra’s head to her left and over Layan’s head. The Sargent tackled Fashem right into her stomach as Elatyra drew her blade. The dagger sliced into the stomach of the woman on the ground and dug up to the lungs bypassing the ribcage. Layan pulled back the dagger then crushed Fashem's weapon clutching arm with a stomp. Turning the dagger horizontal, Layan then pushed her dagger down as hard as she could into her target's neck.

Understandably, most people in the squad was shocked by this, other than Elatyra and the vox-caster.
"What in holy Warp-shit did you do Sargent?!" Sind was demanding an answer.

"You can see I executed these two unceremoniously"

"No shit!"

"I have some good news and bad news"

Elatyra cut in with "Just tell them the bad news first"

"Um... yes, bad news is we are all considered traitors now."

"What?!" said most of the squad in near unison.

"Good news is that the regimental commander ordered all of the 518th to open revolt against Emperor Vandire. That means I had to kill these two over here to prevent them ratting us out to loyalist"

"Then what about our search and destroy mission?"

"Since that order was under the authority of that insane tyrant Vandire" saying then drinking water to insult the God-Emperor's name. "We no longer have to complete our mission!"

"So what do we do now?" asked Elatyra for her squad

"We regroup with the platoon then round up to kill any loyalist."

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>>51226383
Moar?

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>>51226383
>say a name
>drink water right afterwards to insult that person
This is just the opposite of what they do on Dune to praise somebody. Normally they would spit on the sand to show they like a person.

>>51142261
Might I ask what is the context of that image and who's nudes is that Imperial, Farseer, Ethereal Caste member and Tzeentch looking at?

>>51231427
This is Vandire. Everything was an insult.