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How do you think society would develop differently if at age 16, without fail, every male human supernaturally received the knowledge necessary to summon a 'succubus' with no strings attached?

Specifically, the summoned 'demon' would only exist in the world to satisfy its summoner's sexual urges, and would vanish after a set period (unless extended via another 'summoning') or if it was put to work in some other capacity. The summoned being is totally enthusiastic about its role and simply cannot hold ill will towards its summoner. The means to summon it are trivial: a quiet place, a short incantation, and a few drops of the summoner's blood - other than having to bleed a bit, there are no drawbacks and no ways to interrupt, disturb, or detect the summoning apart from physically being there to mess with the summoner. Females, intersex people, and males under the age of 16 simply can't summon them, and the 'demons' will not interact with them if present.

Note that I'm only using the terms 'succubus' and 'demon' because they describe the image of what I'm talking about. The actual summoned beings have no tendency towards any sort of behavior except sexually pleasing their summoners, they don't come from any sort of cosmic underworld and they don't have supernatural powers. They may, however, have a slightly inhuman body, coming in unusual skin/hair/eye colors, possessing horns or fangs, etc. (see pic related)

So basically, this is a roundabout way of asking: if all men had their sexual needs taken care of at will, how would society change? What role would women fulfill in this society? Is it better or worse than the world we live in?

Let's assume it starts happening tomorrow.
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Always fap before posting, anon.
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>>53757201
They would be intentionally summoned and then shot and dissected for science of course.
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>>53757228
Well, sure I'm certain that would be something that was attempted, but even if you have your scientific inquiry going on, I guarantee Pajeet and Ngyuen are getting their game on. Hell, damn near every single guy would be. So then how does that impact things like society's willingness to go to war, or to crush each other in business deals; how much everyday spite over sexual frustration and how much GAME gets trashed, and then, doesn't that really change the whole world a lot?
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>>53757201
Your question is kinda ill-formed, but I'll answer what you intended first.
>So basically, this is a roundabout way of asking: if all men had their sexual needs taken care of at will, how would society change?
Not very much. Of course guys would use that to get laid, but people value relationships for more than just sex. Casual hookups would be depressed, but ultimately people are still going to want to find a partner. Also, if it's just guys who get the option to do this, then there's still going to be pressure from women to have casual sex.

However:
>How do you think society would develop differently if at age 16, without fail, every male human supernaturally received the knowledge necessary to summon a 'succubus' with no strings attached?
Implies something very different. There's no way in hell that everyone is just going to accept something like that at face value, and there would be considerable effort put into actually studying how summoning works and finding new uses for it. Given time for that research to go somewhere, the impact on society would probably be huge.

Also: >>53757222 is correct.
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>>53757222
Always fap before posting, when posting, and after posting.
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>>53757416
>Not very much.
I think you vastly underestimate the degree to which men are strictly behaving in ways to be rewarded with sex.

I don't disagree that people would still seek relationships, but I think the power dynamic would reverse, dramatically. Men, unencumbered from having to seek sexual relief, are likely to be far less interested in seeking partners to begin with. Those who did look would almost invariably be after mates/mothers, not pussy. I expect that to have a wholly eugenic effect on human demographics, and, furthermore, to change what society views women as to be more wholesome and 'traditional'. The other thing at play is that women will have some degree of increase in their own sexual frustration, as well as an increase in competition for actual 'mates'. OL Christmas Cake population would skyrocket, women as breadwinners and as homemakers would both improve their lot, while women as dependents and wards of the state would go extinct.
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>>53757201
>at age 16, without fail, every male human supernaturally received the knowledge necessary to summon a 'succubus' with no strings attached?
>However, most men are only capable of summoning low class succubi who only believe in sex after marriage
>They exclusively have sex in the missionary position in the dark while holding hands with interlocked fingers

>>53757426
One cannot beat the heartboner.

>>53757550
>I think you vastly underestimate the degree to which men are strictly behaving in ways to be rewarded with sex.
Men are effectively conditioned and evolutionarily selected for being responsive to sex as a reward. A man who doesn't desire sex, a man who's indifferent to sex or even a man who enjoys sex but isn't willing to disadvantage himself for it is a man who never reproduces.
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>>53757632
>A man who doesn't desire sex..is a man who never reproduces.
Well, in the wild, sure, but we as thinking creatures understand and feel a need to create offspring for other reasons. So disconnecting the sexual satisfaction angle from reproduction creates a more rational and healthy (eugenic) population.
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>>53757691
>but we as thinking creatures
You overestimate to what extent we're able to overcome our base instincts. You also underestimate to what extent we've legally and culturally fucked ourselves over in the West. The welfare state eliminates the strict neccessity of children, and the decline of strict monogamy and the rise of hook-up culture/the sexual revolution not only robs adultery for women of all its risks, but actually rewards it.

>>53757550
>OL Christmas Cake population would skyrocket, women as breadwinners [...] would both improve their lot
this is my fetish
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>eugenics.

Ah hell no, I'm out. I thought this was a magical realm thread but the /pol/ is leaking through.
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>>53757762
We as a species have been practicing eugenics ever since we started domesticating animals. It's not suddenly "wrong" because a bunch of pisshaired barbarians from the North decided it's a brilliant idea to commit genocide on the most intelligent race on earth.
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>>53757774

Now you just sound like that Jewish ass hat I work with who calls me gentile all the time and goes on and on about his vaunted Jewish genetic superiority and how intelligent he is even though we both do manual labor for a living and i'm the one who's actually going to college of the two of us.
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>>53757757

The fuck does Christmas cake have to do with this?
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>>53757757
>You overestimate to what extent we're able to overcome our base instincts.
The thing is that our base instincts no longer apply, because they're being managed by magic sexbots.

>You also underestimate to what extent we've legally and culturally fucked ourselves over in the West. The welfare state eliminates the strict neccessity of children, and the decline of strict monogamy and the rise of hook-up culture/the sexual revolution not only robs adultery for women of all its risks, but actually rewards it.
I agree with all this, but I think that males would stop engaging with this culture if they had access to sex on demand. Women similarly would have to make themselves desirable as wives/mothers to get a mate, rather than simply be sex objects - they can't outcompete the magic sexbots in that arena anyways. So I think basically we have a return to 'traditional' gender roles for women on the whole, a rise in maternal and feminine behaviors as well as in practical skills for homemaking, but also, because this is not a standard imposed but rather one adopted, that many women will be equally free to pursue their careers and easily scout out mates from among the male population as the head of a potential family.

Overall I think everybody is more free and less stressed in this scenario, and that there's likely to be some positive side effects like eugenic reproductive behavior and a dramatic decline in criminality and violence.
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>>53757843
Much like women, nobody wants the Christmas cake after the 26th.
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>>53757891
Though to be entirely fair, not even Japan applies this concept in real life anymore due to increasing marriage age because of increased female participation in the workforce.

The new 'old spinster' meme for Japan is New Years Noodles (you can probably figure out what age is used as a threshold).
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>>53757201
I would be less inclined to believe this was a thinly veiled fetish thread if you had just said 'how would society change if cheap mass-produced lifelike sexual partner androids were debuted tomorrow'
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>>53757550
>I think you vastly underestimate the degree to which men are strictly behaving in ways to be rewarded with sex.
Maybe, but I don't think so.

>Men, unencumbered from having to seek sexual relief, are likely to be far less interested in seeking partners to begin with.
Prostitutes are a thing already, as is masturbation.
But more fundamentally - I really don't think a reduction in casual fucking is going to significant decrease people's willingness to form actual relationships, because the two don't meet the same psychological needs.

>I expect that to have a wholly eugenic effect on human demographics.
What the fuck?
Why would there be a "eugenic" effect? Traditional relationships aren't going to go away, and people are still going to want to have and raise kids.

>The other thing at play is that women will have some degree of increase in their own sexual frustration,
Sure, though I don't imagine that's going to get too extreme. It's not like guys are going to stop having casual sex with women.

>[women will have] an increase in competition for actual 'mates'.
>women as dependents and wards of the state would go extinct.
Again, why?
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>>53758002
>Prostitutes are a thing already, as is masturbation.
Prostitutes cost money, and in most places it's against the law to use them. Masturbation obviously doesn't meaningfully satisfy sexual frustration.

>But more fundamentally - I really don't think a reduction in casual fucking is going to significant decrease people's willingness to form actual relationships, because the two don't meet the same psychological needs.
The thing is, right now those two are not differentiated from each other. People seeking casual sex wind up in meaningless relationships and people seeking meaningful relationships mostly just find 'casual' sex with a lot of drawbacks.

If every male is sexually satisfied at all times, he only seeks female companionship for the reasons of friendship and creating serious relationships.

>What the fuck? Why would there be a "eugenic" effect?
Because the number of accidental children goes down dramatically, the number of purposeful children goes up substantially, and the parameters where people seek good mates focus on long term compatibility, health, willingness to create a family, and so on rather than 'muh dick'.

A reduction in dysgenic behavior is eugenic. I know it's a scary buzzword that people like to use in substitute of [FUCKING NAZI], but the literal meaning of eugenics is 'well-born', it does not imply any sort of authoritarian control over human reproduction.

>It's not like guys are going to stop having casual sex with women.
I think they will stop /seeking/ casual sex with women. Maybe some women still seek casual sex with men to relieve their own sexual frustration (quite rare as women have far lower desire for sex than men do), and I can't see many men turning them down, but what you won't have is a bunch of guys trawling bars looking for pussy. They can go home and get /better/ pussy for free.

>Again, why?
Because (almost) no one will support a woman for sex, nor put her in a place to be a ward of the state (single mother).
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>>53757774
>Jewish supremacism
I think I just threw up in my mouth a bit.
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/tg/
>You don't even need the other boards
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>>53757201
Since when?

If the ability existed since caveman times, it would have led to either humanity becoming extinct or the male sex drive getting narrowed to apply to actual human females, only.

You know how you feel about the idea of having sex with other men? Wait, you're OP. Well, imagine, if you can, for a moment you're heterosexual. Millenia of selection against desire to have sex with succubi would leave you with a similar revulsion toward them.

And you bet there'd be a far stronger historical cultural and social stigma against dealing with them than there has been against masturbation or homosexuality.
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>>53759239
What amazing cropping skills.
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>>53759301
>literally OP's last sentence
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hhow to sumon suvccubus
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>>53759869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvuZr3GPeM
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>>53757956
Source please
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>>53760286
Kawaii Joushi o Komasaretai/I want to bully the pretty boss.
You could've figured that out by just googling "Ira Megumi" though
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>>53758002
>comparing paid prostitutes to free otherworldly entities quite literally made to fuck
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>>53760315
That... that was an adorable read.
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>>53757774
The human race?
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>>53757801
Usually those who like to brag about their superior genes are from that 20% of whites who are more stupid than most blacks
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>>53757201
Hand gf jokes become succubi gf jokes.
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Women would act against it. Would make illegal to summon mainly because it threatens their hold on men, specially for underages.

See how feminist are dealing with japanese sexbots and the male pill they don't want to give up control on this either
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>>53757956
>>53760315
This is my new favourite thing. Thank you so much for posting it.

They're so fucking cute. Fuck succubi; this is the real heart-boner
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>>53760944
How are women going to ban something that all men can do for free?
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>>53757201
Something is valuable when it is difficult to obtain. If every guy can reach a succubus pussy easily whenever he desires it, human pussy would just increase in value. Let me explain.

Unfortunately, succubi sex becoming a common thing would make casual sex something without any value. Because every man has it, right? Now, achieving marital sex and having children an a family... That is another thing. Women will still have the upper hand because, in order to achieve that marital sex, you will need to be accepted by a women in a relationship. In the other hand, women will become more sexually assertive, surely flirting with the typical Chads under the false promise of having her as his future wife in order to get what she wants. While we, the nerds, will be seen as total creeps who just can have impure sex with literal monsters just to satisfy their desires. They sure are rapist to erase from the genepool!

It won't change the sexual roles, mah boy, it will just change "sex" for "marriage and social acceptance" in the list of things women has in order to control us. But, it is fantasy, you can have the fantasy you want. Like one where men can select and women are motherly and caring. Fantasies can be anything, since they aren't true.
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>>53762784
>How are women going to ban something that all men can do for free?

They banned rape. And raping is free. Our penis is made to rape women in fact. And our most ingrained fetishes are a man raping a woman until she gets pregnant.
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>>53763903
Rape is harmful, though.
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>>53757201
>The actual summoned beings have no tendency towards any sort of behavior except sexually pleasing their summoners, they don't come from any sort of cosmic underworld and they don't have supernatural powers
You lost me right there.
What's the point in having a demon waifu if there's not a slight chance she'll make you her sex slave, kill you or drag you to hell?
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>>53757956
>>53760315
Isn't this the one where like 5 chapters in it's revealed that they didn't actually fuck, and then the plot never goes anywhere?
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>>53757201
Well, I'd finally be able to play co-op games, since I can just summon up an extra player whenever I'm in need of one.

Wait, is there a limit on how many succubi I can summon up?

I could have an entire gaming group on tap whenever I need one.

Fuck, this is amazing. I could actually summon up demons to play D&D with me, vindicating every busybody housewife in the entire US twenty years ago.
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>>53757201
I wouldn't expect people to just accept it without questions. I mean, suddenly magic is real, but only for one specific purpose? People are going to want answers, ranging from "These creatures do work measurable in joules, where does that energy come from and can it be harnessed?" to "What agency created this state of affairs, how and why?"

If you just wanted to explore sexual dynamics in society you should've made it sexbots or something. Suddenly magic is so earthshaking that that aspect becomes meaningless in comparison.
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>>53766360
Mm, I am also interested in those dynamics as well, though. Like harnessing succubi hip thrusting to generate electricity or something.
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>>53766988
>Like harnessing succubi hip thrusting to generate electricity or something.
Reich and Kelley already theorized about that, but then the US government had Reich jailed for his work.
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>>53762784
They worked pretty hard on prostitution, anon, and that's consensual.
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>>53757201
What if I don't want her to leave?
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>>53767340
Good luck?
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>>53767340
Then you use another ritual to redo the binding and extrend her time on earth.

By Lilith, read the fucking OP before you post.
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>>53757201
The human race goes extinct within a generation, no joke that's what would happen.
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>>53757201
World is a lot less violent with fewer sexually frustrated young men. Birth rates decline a bit but are still quite stable because men and women largely still want companionship and not just sex.
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>Demons offer to make your life better for free
Wow, I wonder what could possibly go wrong? It's not like thousands of pieces of fiction have been written about "deals with the devil" or anything.

The better question is what the real price of the deal is.
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>>53768429
Read the OP, ace. They aren't actually demons.
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>>53766137

>Fuck sex you girls are playing dnd with me
>but-
>No! Now put your top back on and grab a character sheet.

Truly sir you are a wizard.
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>>53757201
Well, you wouldn't be making this thread for one you goddamn virgin.
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>>53768587
>Summoned in a ritual using blood
>Otherworldly form (possibly even demonic horns)
>Appeals to base desire

>Not a demon
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>>53757632
>Men are effectively conditioned and evolutionarily selected for being responsive to sex as a reward. A man who doesn't desire sex, a man who's indifferent to sex or even a man who enjoys sex but isn't willing to disadvantage himself for it is a man who never reproduces.

People who think random, meaningless, casual sex is the best kind of sex ever have probably never had much of sex of ANY sort whatsoever, plain and simple.
Anyone on this thread who's been in a healthy emotional relationship for any length of time that involved sex knows EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
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How long does a summoning last? Can I have as many as I'm willing to bleed for out at once? Will they do tasks that are not inherently sexual? What if I say I totally get off on it? Are they naked when summoned or do they come with gear? What happens to the air they displace when they appear/the void they leave when they disappear? What kind of stamina do they have? What happens if you wound or kill them? Some people get off on gore, snuff or necro, after all. Are they edible? How about combustible?

What? I'm just trying to figure out how to best use them to violate conservation of energy.

Can you summon a specific one? One that someone else has summoned before? That's FTL communication right there.
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>>53768771
>Conservation of energy
Are you saying that we have to hunt for various fetishes to get certain demons?

Just train people to get off to piles of coal or something. Or even better, robot girls - you could just harvest the advanced technology.
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>>53768808
>Are you saying that we have to hunt for various fetishes to get certain demons?
Well, that depends on how willing the demons are to otherwise go along with what you want them to do, and if they can tell if you're lying when you say that them turning a crank at an even pace for all eternity is what really gets you going.
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>>53757201
No school shootings, no terrorism, we'd have a Martian colony by now, and we'd be in a post scarcity society.
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>>53757201
I'm not subjecting them to this doomed, mortal world. Let the cold dark take us all, and spare them the pain of watching the universe die.
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>>53768771
OP here, I'll give you answers based on what I had in mind when making the thread.

>How long does a summoning last?
A few hours, if they're not dismissed or forced to leave.

>Can I have as many as I'm willing to bleed for out at once?
Yes, though I envisioned the ritual to summon them as taking a few minutes to prepare so you're capped at a certain point by time constraints even disregarding the blood issue, even if you have a purely sexual interest in summoning them.

>Will they do tasks that are not inherently sexual?
Not really; they're only interested in sex and will leave if they think their summoning is unrelated to sexual fulfillment.

>What if I say I totally get off on it?
They only care about genuine feeling, and even then, they're not willing to do stuff they feel isn't sexual. So even if you do have a genuine, utilitarian fetish like (>>53768923), if it's not something that they would envision sexually they aren't interested in doing it.

>Are they naked when summoned or do they come with gear?
Either or. It just disappears like them when they leave though.

>What happens to the air..?
As part of the summoning ritual, the air where they'd manifest is distributed away, and when they leave they vanish gradually, preferring to do so out of eyesight when possible.

>What kind of stamina do they have?
What might be expected for a human woman of the same build.

>What happens if you wound or kill them?
They will leave immediately. They will never leave behind anything of themselves when they go (though all bodily fluids still inside will go with them).

>Are they edible? How about combustible?
Yes, sort of, but not in a useful sense. Their bodies and any parts removed will just dematerialize if this sort of thing happens.

>Can you summon a specific one?
Yes.

>One that someone else has summoned before?
Yes, though you'd need to learn the trick to doing so from someone that's summoned her before.
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>>53770293
Hmmh. Best that comes to mind offhand is summoning / dismissing as large a succubus as possible into /out of as small as possible a solid, airtight enclosure and then harnessing the pressure differential.

You could probably find a way to harness sexual activities, but that just gets too silly.

Does the blood used in summoning disappear? Either way, considering bodily fluids within the succubus do when she leaves, the universe is actually losing energy on each summoning! Ha, I'm onto you, Satan!
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>>53763903
>False-flagging this hard
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>>53770636
>Best that comes to mind offhand is summoning / dismissing as large a succubus as possible into /out of as small as possible a solid, airtight enclosure and then harnessing the pressure differential.
Mmm, probably not worth the tradeoff in blood and time.

>You could probably find a way to harness sexual activities, but that just gets too silly.
This though has potential.

>Does the blood used in summoning disappear?
Yep.

>Either way, considering bodily fluids within the succubus do when she leaves, the universe is actually losing energy on each summoning!
Indeed it is. One day we will reach peak semen.
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We get it, you like hentai.
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>>53768689
Yes, that's correct.
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>>53770293
>>What happens if you wound or kill them?
>They will leave immediately. They will never leave behind anything of themselves when they go (though all bodily fluids still inside will go with them).
>>One that someone else has summoned before?
>Yes, though you'd need to learn the trick to doing so from someone that's summoned her before.

>NTR possible but not guro/snuff
How do you live with such shit taste?
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>>53770293
>Not really; they're only interested in sex and will leave if they think their summoning is unrelated to sexual fulfillment.
That sucks.

I wanted one to stroke her fingers through my hair while we cuddled and told each other how much we love them.
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>>53770823
Funny enough, I have masturbate today under the premise of cumming inside a succubus and making the universe devoid of some mililitres of liquid. It was a good fap.
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>>53771407
>You are accelerating the heat death of the universe by permanently removing matter from it! You'll kill us all you fool!
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>>53771513
Just imagine her on her four, smiling mischievously in triumph of achieving to tempt you to make such trivial but aberrant act. As you pound her slutty pussy harder and harder, and slaps her bitchy ass. Until you pump all your seed inside deep inside her. Calling her how a low bitch she is as her pussy viciously drinks your seed.

Or, in other cases, summon a friend of her, posibly a succubi who is the opposite in terms of body shape to her. And make her fall on their knees and beg for your cock. Letting them to fight among themselves to please you and have the privilege of drinking your spunk.

Darn, getting aroused again.
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>>53759239
neato, another space majicks thread
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>>53770293
>all bodily fluids still inside will go with them
So you CAN still fill them up with a bunch of stuff of really stupid stuff as long as you get off to it
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>>53768689
In D&D 5e, succubi are fiends, but they're not demons
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>>53772110
>In 5e, everything is retarded

In other news, water is wet.
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>>53768705
>healthy
>emotional
>relationship
>4channer
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>>53757201
What if im sexually attracted to being turned into a woman and than fucked?
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>>53772618
They don't have any supernatural powers.

At best, you'd just get put in girl's clothes, pounded in the ass, and told how much of a "good girl" you are for taking the cock so well.
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>>53772618
My brother.

Ganguro best girl.
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>>53772742
Tomboy>Bride>Ojou>Nerd>Ganguro>Pleb-tier delinquent

This is objectively the correct ranking.
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>>53772742
Rebis, pls.
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>>53772818
>Dollar
>Not yen

Viz localization pls go.
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>>53772618
>>53772801
The real ranking is
Nerd > Nerd > Nerd > Nerd > Nerd > Nerd
She has the fattest thighs and the skewed glasses do things to me...down there
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>>53770636
>Either way, considering bodily fluids within the succubus do when she leaves, the universe is actually losing energy on each summoning! Ha, I'm onto you, Satan!
I love this idea. Hell can afford to play the long game. Bit by bit, orgasm by orgasm, they take just a little bit out of the universe. Until one day, a grand cosmic machine that could have lasted for all eternity now grinds to a mysterious halt.
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>>53772818
Sauce on that pic?
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>>53757201
Jesus Christ dude, it's my fetish as well, but holy fuck. You're unironically trying to magical realm /tg/, here. Badly. With shitty, straight up vanilla wish-fulfillment. Are you actually 16?

If you're going to insert your fetishes, at least make it subtle and interesting. Maybe write up a warlock pact with a succubus, including the conflict and drawbacks of something like that. If you actually want to make it entertaining for other people, take all the sex (with your self insert) out of it and explore how succubi and pretty much every other demon are really fucked up with an eternal, agonizing desire to consume and torment souls. Or maybe she's trying to seduce him, but because of the pact he can see that she's really this hideous extraplanar shape-shifting horror. Mix it up a little, make things interesting, or just at least save the fap fiction for yourself.
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>>53773122
Okay, I realize the image is too small for reverse search but, have you at least tried to go by that one keyword you're given in the post plus the very obvious tags the sauce should have?
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>>53773218

I'm not a smart man...
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>>53772094
Make dildos out of nuclear waste and dismiss the sucubi to permanently dispose of it.
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>>53772959
>The heat death of the universe is just the end result of Hell's multi-billion year plan to steal shit from the universe so slowly that the Heavens don't notice until it's too late
>Entropy is a lie perpetuated by Satan to cover his tracks in case any humans caught on to what he was doing.
>The Succubi occupation of every man's bedroom is simply the next stage in the plan, upgrading from manually siphoning hydrogen molecules from outer space to (relatively) rapidly taking material from our universe, accelerating the end of the universe by another 10^92 years
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>>53773307
Give the succubi nuclear enemas.
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>>53773307
>>53773346

>The succubi are only willing to do it if it's sexual.
>Government scours the globe for the guy whose fetish it is for a girl to fuck herself with radioactive waste.
>4chan was a government seeding program all along.

Who'd have thunk?
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>>53773395
>/tg/ and /d/ will save the world together by disposing of all nuclear waste

I can believe it
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>>53773327
It's like the X-rated parody of Diane Duane's Young Wizards series that nobody asked for.
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>A Magical Realm thread turns into a discussion of the heat death of the universe and an entirely original method of nuclear waste disposal.

>never change /tg/
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>>53757201
Jesus fucking christ. The virginity radiating from this post gave me cancer immediately
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>>53773327
>rapidly taking material from our universe
Worse than just material, organic mass containing water from an environment with finite organic resources and water. Given sufficient time and succubi, this'll leave earth ad dry and sterile as mars.
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>>53773696
Well, there's about a teaspoon of water (and a bit of organic matter) in every male ejaculation.

Since there's about 353,462,206,060,000,000,000 gallons of water on earth, that converts to 271,459,062,029,442,580,000,000 teaspoons.

Assuming that every single adult human male, numbering 3,477,829,638, uses a succubutt twice daily on average, it would take 106 billion years to use up all of the water on earth, by which time the earth would have been long since destroyed by our sun going nova.

Now, if she asks for a drink after sex, you should be concerned. That 8oz glass of water is letting her steal 48 cumshots worth of water from the planet, and that's terrible.
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>>53774018
>Now, if she asks for a drink after sex, you should be concerned. That 8oz glass of water is letting her steal 48 cumshots worth of water from the planet, and that's terrible.
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>>53774018
Does the man's blood used in the summoning vanish as well?
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>>53774222
As per the OP answering questions, it does, but only requires a few drops, so the cumshots and anything eaten or drank are still more pressing.
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>>53772740
Well this is fucking lame. I can summon sex things, but I cant live out my fantasy. What bullshit.
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>>53773395
>willingly giving them even more mass
You monster
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>>53774018
>48 cumshots worth of water
I now have a new favorite SI unit.
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>>53757201
...sex is like a drug for you men. You get all weird and shit when you don't fap first.
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>>53767112
Consensual prostitution nobody cares about. The laws are there to attempt to stop the women and kids who are forced to work by threats. The pimps don't technically break the law if they just take money and a lot of them are smart and won't use physical violence which is a jailable offense so cops are forced to arrest the victims.
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>>53774298
How about breathing?
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>>53777810
What if they hold their breath before summoning, expiring on Earth? So all summons add a little more of sulfur to atmosphere and we're not even counting farting, pee and shit as fetishes
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>>53772094
>>53773307
>>53773346
>>53773395
>>53773434
Plot twist:
#.1 Matter removed from the universe via succubi can be returned by anyone summoning the same succubi.

#2. A jihadist does so and now they've got a supply of radioactive waste.

#3. Somehow rig a suicide vest to detonate when removed, connect it to a backpack dirty bomb made with "disposed" waste, give it to a succubus and tell it to go give your friend in (location you want bombed) a striptease.
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>>53770293
Why can't i just summon a succubus to be my waifu.

Surely that wouldn't be terribly difficult when everyone on the damn planet can summon succubi. Frankly, the time limit and resummoning thing are the only issue to this, and your somewhat arbitrary "NO ONLY SEX" thing.

What if the cute succubus just wants to cook and clean for a nice dude? Snuggle and watch a movie? Cute shit like that.

TL;DR, Fuck your limitations that specifically prevent this.
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>>53757201
>or if it was put to work in some other capacity
I guess manual labour would be performed by a bunch of hot demons.
Maybe criminals would use them. Maybe the justice department would use them too.

The world would be weird.
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Why do obvious kissless virgins try so hard to understand and discuss sexuality?

The vast majority of people DO have no strings attached sex at 16. That is the norm. This would change nothing, and even in light of summonable at-will sex slaves people would still want to pursue both meaningful relationships AND one night stands that present a challenge.

Sex is such an infinitesimally small portion of even a one night stand that it's painfully clear that you lack any understanding of this sort of thing, OP.

To answer your question: society would change in the sense that sad autists like you would finally get laid, but not much else would be different from a purely sexual standpoint.

It's also weird that in your utopian sex fantasy only males 16 years or older get magic sex powers. Project a little harder.
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>>53778334
Ehh, I conceived of this largely as a vehicle to think about the implications of a vastly different sexual landscape, especially the impact on women.

If the succubi were summonae simply as free, superior alternatives to women, there's not a lot that I feel can be discussed there.

For real tho, I won't hate on you for changing the scenario around as you like.
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>>53778570
Then to answer your initial hypothetical, literally nothing would change.

Its basically like summoning a fucking awesome human-shaped onahole. Nothing more or less. It serves the same purpose as masturbation already does, except now there's an actual cute girl to use.

No consequences, no issue's, and the total ramifications are that you blew your load.

There's nothing to it past that.
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>>53778389
>Why do obvious kissless virgins try so hard to understand and discuss sexuality?
...Isn't the answer to that question fairly obvious?

>It's also weird that in your utopian sex fantasy only males 16 years or older get magic sex powers. Project a little harder.
I don't think it qualifies as projection if you know you're doing it, and OP certainly had to know.

Your answer is "Well, the world would be a better place," but you seem oddly annoyed about it.

>>53774018
>>53774059
What happens when the vore, unbirthing, belly stuffing, inflation, and large insertion fetishists start summoning? Were those fetishes created by Satan?
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>>53778389
>It's also weird that in your utopian sex fantasy only males 16 years or older get magic sex powers. Project a little harder.

Would it be less of an issue if females 16 years or older also got the ability to summon up sexy demons to satisfy their sexual needs?
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>>53757201
I think people are underestimating how much this would accelerate the degradation of male-female relations. No fault divorce, poor economic situations, and easy access to casual sex have already gutted relationships. Giving men easy access to top-tier sexual gratification that comes from a living, breathing being? Even more men would be opting out of the rat-race.

Assuming that the same succubus can be summoned repeatedly and they're capable of some degree of positive social interaction around/during coitus, they would largely replace dating actual women for a huge portion of young men, maybe even for the majority.

>>53758002
>I really don't think a reduction in casual fucking is going to significant decrease people's willingness to form actual relationships
>>53757416
>people value relationships for more than just sex. Casual hookups would be depressed, but ultimately people are still going to want to find a partner
>>53778389
>The vast majority of people DO have no strings attached sex at 16. That is the norm. This would change nothing, and even in light of summonable at-will sex slaves people would still want to pursue both meaningful relationships AND one night stands that present a challenge.
That's some pretty strong delusion.
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If they appear on earth, does all the air in the volume that they would appear in vanish? When they go back, would whatever matter they replaced come back in the location that the succubus disappeared from?
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>>53780637
Read the thread.
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>>53779701
What happens when people team up and try to breed them?
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>>53773696
Maybe that is what happened to Mars.
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>>53781382
>Biosphere-eating demonic sex toys are the fermi paradox?
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>>53758127
Men will still seek casual sex with women. Sex is not just a pleasure thing but a status thing. If the only pussy you can get is from a demoness, then the implication people are going to get from you is that you are practically a virgin, and thus a less valuable human being overall.
I would also assume that demon sex would eventually somehow lose its edge to the novelty of human sex. Casual sex, if any happens, would likely drop back down if it rises in an individual, but it would still happen in population from time-to-time because of the idea of meeting actual human women rather than semen demons.
However, the succubus would allow people to practice sex, so there would be less disappointed women.

>>53760944
There are only so many self-loathing """feminist""" men in the world. I think most women would compromise under the threat of social progress being undone.
>male pill
The birth control pill for men? I don't think they would be blatantly against it without coming off as massive hypocrites. Shaming won't work, either, because they would also look like hypocrites and pious assholes.

>>53765937
If any of those are the summoner's thing, she can definitely do one of those. It would still be consensual, though.

>>53771513
>cracked
Suddenly I feel sour.
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>>53760944
>>53782538
>Male pill

Last I checked, pretty much no one other than crazy tumblr-tier retards were genuinely against the male pill.

There were a few feminist things making smug quips about male fragility when one possible male birth control was killed during clinical trials because it caused severe mood swings, depression, and other similarly unsavory side effects, but I haven't seen much in the way of serious opposition to the product.
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>>53782662
>female pill causes heart problems
This is fine.
>male pill causes mood swings
Shut it all down.
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>>53782662
Wouldn't it be expected for drug tests to come out with nasty side-effects? It takes years just to even get to the human trials, and a lot of money. Why does one thing drugs are so expensive despite how cheap they sometimes are to make?
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>>53783865
There is a proposed male birth control called vasalgel in the United States which isn't chemical or hormonal like the female birth control pill is, and has far fewer side effects. It will likely last for 10 years after injected and is completely reversible.
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>>53757801
These days, he may well be smarter if he's not going to college.
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>>53757201
>How do you think society would develop differently if at age 16, without fail, every male human supernaturally received the knowledge necessary to summon a 'succubus' with no strings attached?

Those bitches would finally respect OP for once.
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>>53782662
>>53783491
>male pill
There's RISUG, one of rare few good things to ever come from India, where it arose to combat astronomical breeding rates of uneducated masses. Yet you barely even hear about it in the first world, apparently, existing contraceptives have pretty powerful lobby of their own right.
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>>53757201
> How do you think society would develop differently if at age 16, without fail, every male human supernaturally received the knowledge necessary to summon a 'succubus' with no strings attached?
It's shit.

> How do you think society would develop differently if at age 16, without fail, every human supernaturally received a guardian angel of opposite sex (with perfect looks traits for the human in question) that he/she and only he/she could interact with, but everyone else could see and hear?
Much better.
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>>53757201
>Specifically, the summoned 'demon' would only exist in the world to satisfy its summoner's sexual urges, and would vanish after a set period (unless extended via another 'summoning') or if it was put to work in some other capacity
Does it still count as other work if the summoner can somehow justify it as erotic roleplay?
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>>53768705
Don't pretend "romantic love" is anything but windowdressing for lust, or at best windowdressing for a mutually beneficial arrangement. This is why marriage went to shit when we started removing what actually mattered (transfer of resources, exclusive sexual access, childrearing) and started basing it on a romanticized mental delusion. You'd think that if "love" worked, divorce rates would go down rather than up.
>Inb4 "b-but divorce rates are dipping"
because marriage rates are plummeting. Because the very construct of marriage has become retarded. It's more or less exactly the same reason feminism goes full retard: if you base your worldview on something that's obviously false, it logically follows that your actions will be equally retarded.

The sooner you realize eros is the lowest and most vile form of love, the better.
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>>53787970
>interact
Does that mean I can fly, climb up higher ledges, and magically fall backwards without hitting the ground? Technically she is only interacting with me.

>>53788045
Keep in mind that most divorces are form repeat marriages or marriages that have been formed too soon.
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>>53788119
Even assuming that, first marriage divorce rates peaked in the 1980s at 40% and only went down because the total number of marriages went down.

40% chance of total ruin (from the male perspective) isn't a good number. And once again, if this whole love-based model actually worked we would've seen an increase in marriages rather than a decrease. Because no marriage is built on love, and even if there is love there are underlying interests that keep a couple together. Our ancestors realized this and accomodated for this, but only our "enlightened" selves could replace a model that worked for most of human history for a model that's clearly failing and call it "progress".
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>>53788216
>first marriage divorce rates peaked in the 1980s at 40% and only went down because the total number of marriages went down
Hold on a sec, how does the total number of marriages going down affect the proportion of (first) marriages that do happen that end in divorce?
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>>53788305
Because there would be a peak moment between society's changing expectation on the pressures of getting married and the acceptance of divorce?
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>>53788389
...Oh, I think I get it. So divorce rates started going down because the people who would've ended up divorced instead chose not to marry at all.
I don't think our ancestors actually put terribly much thought into it or viewed it in such a cynical way. It was a paradigm that worked for them at the time, which is why it survived, and now it's starting to fail because it hasn't adapted the same way other parts of society have.
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>>53788471
>I don't think our ancestors actually put terribly much thought into it or viewed it in such a cynical way.
Nigga please, back then having children and providing a stable environment for them was literally an affair of life or death. Well, it still is, but now we have this big middle man called "the state". And when this state doesn't get enough babies, it simply imports outsiders (with a more traditional/"cynical" understanding of marriage) to replace us. Old civilizations didn't have the massive wealth and frivolties we have, so they couldn't afford themselves the luxury to place their feefees over practical benefit.

Again: an ancient system that works, and a new system that fails but is deemed better purely because it's new.
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>>53757201
eventually it would be made legal to sell the services of those summoned to women and younger men.
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>>53788471
There's many other parts of society that have not adapted either.
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>>53788527
Most notably our genetics. Our biology is thousands if not millions of years behind where we want to be socially. We can either accept our limitations as a species, or keep bluntly ramming our heads against the wall hoping the wall breaks first.

It's the age old question of what works vs what sounds nice.
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>>53788510
>Old civilizations didn't have the massive wealth and frivolties we have, so they couldn't afford themselves the luxury to place their feefees over practical benefit.
No, but that's what I mean. Wealth and frivolity is our reality, and regardless of how one feels about it, the fact remains that the reasoning behind traditional institutions crumbles in face of this. Rather than an ancient system that works and a new system that fails, it's an ancient system that doesn't work anymore and a half-hearted reformation attempting to keep it relevant by making it seem easier to swallow. It's survival of the fittest.
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>>53788680
Or embrace the glory of gene manipulation and try to accelerate catching up evolutionary.
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>>53788704
>Wealth and frivolity is our reality
What I mean by that is that we have the luxury to create inefficient systems. This is also why we waste money on "gender equality" even though this results in a system where women obtain more taxpayer money than they pay in taxes. Because efficiency doesn't matter when you have enough wealth to squander (by which I mean in the short term. In the long term we're fucked but no democratic politician thinks past the next elections).

Traditional institutions aren't crumbling in the face of change, instead we are actively undermining traditional institutions because they don't conform to our ideologies. The traditional institutions will crumble, but our genetics will not. A century of social change won't suddenly overturn millions of years of evolution. Like I said above, we can adapt our institutions to our biology but not vice versa. And that is why the West is doomed to collapse.

>It's survival of the fittest.
Indeed, which is why Europe will never be great again and native Europeans will go the route of the dodo and the mammoth. And future generations will debate for centuries about how the greatest civilization ever known just disappeared with but a tired sigh.
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>>53788717
Bitch please, that doesn't sign up with our Western feelings-based morality. It's the fucking Chinese of all people who are most interested in genetic manipulation. The first designer babies will come from China, or at the very least the Orient in general. Hell, we still see cloning as some evil act that goes against the God that the West has long since rejected rather than what it really is: In Vitro twinning.
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>>53788769
>Traditional institutions aren't crumbling in the face of change, instead we are actively undermining traditional institutions because they don't conform to our ideologies.
There's no difference. Institutions are created by humans and they are destroyed by humans. The people actively railing against them are part of it but so are the silent millions that come to their own conclusions.
>how the greatest civilization ever known just disappeared with but a tired sigh
Personally, I can't see this as something terrible. Civilizations live and they die; if the best fate for a person is to die in old age, in his sleep after having eaten something nice for supper, then why not a civilization?
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>>53788875
>if the best fate for a person is to die in old age, in his sleep after having eaten something nice for supper, then why not a civilization?
Let me rephrase this for you: do you want your (grand)children to live under Sharia law, or do you think a Western, modern (that is to say pre-postmodern) liberal nation-state with rule of law and fundamental rights is a better idea? The question is what we want to pass on for the next generation. Everything we have is merely borrowed from future generations, and we have the obligation to leave it behind for them in the best possible condition. Otherwise we have failed. That, and I have no interest in brushing up on my Arabic.
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>>53788927
>do you want your (grand)children to live under Sharia law, or do you think a Western, modern (that is to say pre-postmodern) liberal nation-state with rule of law and fundamental rights is a better idea?
Can I pick "neither"?
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>>53788927
I'm willing to defend my way of life both politically and by force of arms, sunset of civilization or not, but regardless I won't have any (grand)children. I don't feel any indebtment to future generations; it is unscientific and anti-causal: what have they done to deserve this from me, they who are the very ones (as evidenced by history) who push society to alien and more alien places? Let they themselves make what they can of their lives, whether it be democratic or Communistic or under Sharia.
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>>53789013
Do you seriously think those options are equally bad?
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>>53789235
Not equally bad, just both varying degree of bad.
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I prefer to live under God's law (even in Sharia) to be judged by amoral relativists atheists.

God above all, but I would like more if it were to be under DEUS VULT
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>>53787795
It's because vasalgel material is cheap as shit and big pharma in the west can't make money off it.
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>>53789702
>>53789263
Next level retardation.
>>53788704
There hasn't been a reformation. They just gutted the institution and marriage to struggle on and die. Change isn't inherently good.
>>53789069
>it is unscientific
Religious followers of Science are the lowest of the low.
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>>53792579
Science is not a religion and I don't follow it as one. I simply don't see any possible way for me to have been indebted to future generations when we all know fairly clearly that time moves forward, not backwards.
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>>53793304
>we all know fairly clearly that time moves forward,
kek look at this guy
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>>53793304
>I simply don't see any possible way for me to have been indebted to future generations when we all know fairly clearly that time moves forward, not backwards.
Borrowing against shit in the future is an incredibly normal part of economics.
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>>53793407
Borrowing against the future only matters to someone or something borrowing from its own future self. I don't see future generations as my own future self. I see them as someone else.
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>>53781382
The studies all pointed to one conclusion: the widespread summoning of succubi had already diminished the water supply of Mars, and the process was accelerating as the sex demons grew in popularity. The long-term trend was obvious, of course, but neither laws nor norms could check the popular enthusiasm for succubi, and they continued to be summoned in huge numbers, daily, long after awareness of the problem has become universal. In the end, governments could only watch in despair as the lifeblood of Mars drained into the succubi one orgasm st a time.

You have to wonder what it was like at the end, after the world became too harsh for civilization to endure; after the industrialized world ebbed away, leaving only scattered, desperate enclaves. What did they think, then? What mad desire compelled them to continue their summoning? What unconquerable lusts seized them?
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>>53793429
>Borrowing against the future only matters to someone or something borrowing from its own future self.
No. Why would that be the case?
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>>53793457
It's used to describe self-destructive behavior that benefits in the short term but bites back in the long term. It's not self-destructive if it doesn't bite myself but someone else instead.
>>53793377
And just why would you use worst girl to help you illustrate?
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>>53793494
>It's not self-destructive if it doesn't bite myself but someone else instead.
Selfishness on this scale is exactly what I'd expect from a damn lolicon who can't appreciate Rin's greatness.
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>>53793544
Forgive me for not being bound by magical obligations to the not-existing nor enjoying a dirty anus.
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>>53757886
Chiming in my agreement with this sentiment. Without lust-driven decision making, pairings would likely go back to the predominant method of arranged marriages. Such unions have always been the means of securing wealth and political power.
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>>53793435
>You have to wonder what it was like at the end, after the world became too harsh for civilization to endure; after the industrialized world ebbed away, leaving only scattered, desperate enclaves. What did they think, then? What mad desire compelled them to continue their summoning? What unconquerable lusts seized them?

No unconquerable lusts or mad desire needed.

The shittier a person's life is, the more willing they are to pursue self-destructive behaviors that provide an escape from their problems. If you're starving in a shack somewhere in the middle of nowhere, and there's nothing meaningful in your life other than warmth of being held by a beautiful succubus as she passionately kisses you, then that's what you take refuge in, even if you know it's not healthy.
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>>53773696
>>53781382
>>53793435
>>53793756
The summoning ritual was first rediscovered by astronauts or robotic probes exploring the martian ruins.
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>>53793377
F/SN HD remake with Rider and Ilya routes when?
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>>53757201
So why is this thread on /tg/ again?
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>>53797258
>remnants of portals to hell on mars

I start sawing off my shotgun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZMg9ryeWOw
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>>53798104
Only if it also has a Stray Servant route.

Grand Order isn't out in English yet, and I need that sweet, sweet tower shield waifu.
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>>53787008
This. College degree put you in debt for the rest of your life and tend to be meaningless because you don't already have 6 years of experience for an unpaid entry-level position.
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>>53798145
Because what started as Magical Realm now involves weaponized demons vs the first astronauts to set foot on mars.
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>No strings attached.

Human population would plummet dramatically.
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>>53772618
Swimmer chick clearly a best. Even though her tits shouldn't be nearly that big.
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>>53798911
That's not a bug, it's a feature.

Succubi are the demonic personifications of sterility. Everything about them, from their leaching biospheres to death to merely ensuing that people don't reproduce is part of this.
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31323207/#p31397641
I'd assume they're like most flowers, with male and female parts. I believe that there are even certain orchids that imitate the look of the females of a certain species of bee, so it would be like that.

>human male walking through forest
>encounters attractive female-formed humanoid
>sex ensues, while he's inside what he thinks is her female sex organ his penis is being coated in her pollen/sperm, as her vagina, like a flower, contains both male and female organs
>our lucky human takes his leave, a while later he encounters another Dryad
>this time he both brushes off pollen/sperm inside her, and has a new round placed on him
I'm assuming that at no point is his genetic material even important.
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31323207/#p31399218
>Symbiosis is wonderful
What might be of concern is that the Dryads are involved in potentially parasitic symbiosis on the macro scale. While an individual human might get sexual benefits from these encounters, Dryads, with their free sex, are definitely a distraction for human males who would otherwise be fertilizing human eggs.

The Dryads thus face a conundrum. They must have sex with men often enough that there are good odds a man will encounter at least two for as long as Dryad sperm stays attached to his penis. However, they can't have sex with them so often that the men forgo creating a new generation of men.
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31323207/#p31410879
This explains elves being a dying species, doesn't it? Also why "treefucker" is an anti-elvish slur.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_insect_technique

>>53799173
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31323207/#p31416410
...and why elf females played by That Guy keep ditching elf society to join adventuring parties and have lots of sex...
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/31323207/#p31416410
Elves used to be a fairly abundant race, but dryads led to a huge decline in birthrates. Elves are now in a post-collapse society, with most of their previously inhabited lands being reclaimed by wilderness. There are so many adventuring elves because they're trying to flee this apocalyptic scenario or find someone to breed with, but they're too afraid to let outsiders know this.
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>>53768635
You think there won't be ERP at that table?




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