Are there any other full time staff of note on Ganymede?

Would anyone be annoyed if I did some more on Ornsworld?

>>56470439
Not I. We need more writing as mentioned by OP.

>>56469207
Presumably somebody really good at double negatives and mind games to deal with Apep, and Hereteks in the employ of the Imperial Court to maintain all the strange tech in the vaults independent of the Martian Brotherhood

>>56468501
So is Neutronium a material unique to DAoT humanity? It's obviously a key component in their megastructures, and we've yet to describe anyone else making it or using it. Necrons probably could synthesize it, or at least something with similar properties, but clearly they prefer their living fractal femto-scale smart mater. With the level of esotericism involved in the Savlar Brotherhood's process it might even be too exoctic to reverse engineer its specific properties.

Also, I assume the Daisy Chain uses Neutronium and not active support or some other lower tech alternative, and I remember in our earliest discussions of Imperial space elevators somebody brought up the idea of some prominent hive cities being built around the anchors of space elevators, or broken elevators on worlds less lucky weathering Old Night. There was also talk of Neutronium cables being salvaged and moved from world to world by the merchant navy or Imperial fleet. It would be cool to write a story about a convoy defending a massive line of Neutronium from Crone theft as its transported in a warp jump, patrolling the length of the many kilometers of cable studded with attached gellar fields.

>>56471105
They call it neutronium but it is not. It is distinct from the stuff that makes the skeleton of the Cthoniam Ring. They both get called neutronium because they are both non-baryonic matter. What exacting are they? Nobody knows bar the Savlar Brotherhood and relations with them are irreparably poisoned by the Mechanicus.

Presumably the Eldar Empire could make it but saw no reason to do so considering that they built the big shit in the webway where the rules were more malleable.

Necrons presumably can also make it but consider it a quaint material of a previous era.

>>56471329
It could also be like pulse technology. The Tau, despite being much younger than humanity or the Necrons, came up with a way to not only make plasma weaponry safer than even DaoT or Eldar plasma technology, but to miniaturize it.

Presumably it was one of those events of historical contingency: the Tau were in the right place at the right time to develop such a technology (probably because they didn't have a "go-to" traditional weapon like monomolecular filament, spaghettification gauss guns, disruption rifles, and the like) and then threw all their research weight behind it to the point that pulse weaponry is about as good as monomolecular or bolter tech.

Even with the advancement of science, it's always possible that not everyone discovered everything, or if they did they didn't see the applications of it. Sort of like how the Inca and Aztecs knew about wheels but didn't see much point in them beyond children's toys.

>>56471566
In vanilla the DAoT plasma relics were more reliable. As are the master crafted Mechanicus ones. Both can be maintained and repaired but replacements are thin on the ground and slow to be made.

Eldar ones are also reliable and given the spread of them through their warrior ranks easier for their weapon-smiths to make. If we are to assume that the eldar haven't lost all their leet tek skillz then in some way the eldar ones must be better. More efficient ammunition most probably. Longer ionized path projections in atmosphere for greater accuracy and less diffusion of the plasma ball at range.

Tau ones are better on the interstellar army scale because they are comparable to Mechanicus ones and can be stamped out quickly and don't explode unexpectedly.

Laser rifles still have the "good enough" edge over everything combined with mass production and parts interchangeable. Also less training needed to use and maintain.

Who should be the head of the force that rescued Ornsworld?

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>>56474247
Inquisitor Staven Arcturos

>>56474975
I have no idea who he is and I can't find him on he lexicanum.

Also he will be more reclaiming and overseeing the conquest and initial stages of resettlement of a depopulated world then actually "rescuing".

>>56475071
Oh sorry, I meant in the initial assault to reclaim the xenos artifact on Ornsworld, not the actual liberation then rebuilding the planet.

>>56475268
Still no idea who he is or what he's done.

>>56472749
The advantages of pulse is it turns plasma weaponry into what was once only good for heavy and tank-busting into something that can be mass-produced and easily used.

The downsides is they lose some of the raw face-melting power of other races' plasma guns, but that's the trade-offs you get for trying to temper the raw destructive power of plasma.

>Laser rifles still have the "good enough" edge over everything combined with mass production and parts interchangeable. Also less training needed to use and maintain.

Yep. Also the AdMech can't replicate pulse weaponry easily without going to the Earth Caste for advice and they're too proud to do that (and they can't just claim they "found" an STC for pulse weaponry like they do with a lot of other things because there are no records of mankind using anything like pulse weaponry on a wide scale).

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Some more thoughts for the Phoenix Lords

FUEGAN

Fuegan’s a pretty fun guy. He’s loud, boisterous, and if you just went by his personality alone one would be surprised to find out he’s an Eldar. He’s also pretty simple. He likes to blow stuff up. That said, don’t confuse “simple” with “stupid” or “incompetent”. Fuegan is a genius with explosives and is more than capable of long term planning, and he is more than willing to make use of his demeanor and reputation to make an enemy commander drop their guard and trick them into stepping on a landmine. His willpower is also legendary, but then again all of the Phoenix Lords are known for their willpower.

He also swears to a degree that would make a Cadian-Ulthwéan’s jaw drop.

>>56479381
BAHARROTH

When the old guard talk about Eldar heroes, it’s usually Baharroth and to a lesser degree Asurmen who they tend to think of, as opposed to people like Eldrad. Baharroth is the ace of the Phoenix Lords: He’s not a master of all like Asurmen, but is by far one of the most skilled non-Asurmen Phoenix Lords, in addition to his style of combat being one of the flashiest as well.

Baharroth’s Craftworld, Anaen, was one of those nearly destroyed by the War of the Beast, invaded by a Khornate Warlord named Trarkh (unclear if it was one of the Fallen, a Crone, or a Chaos Ork). Anaen was not completely depopulated, but nearly the entire population including Baharroth’s entire family (barring his brother, Maugan Ra) was killed in the battle despite the two brothers fighting on the world and the survivors and what was left of the Infinity Circuit immigrated to Biel-Tan.

The downside to Baharroth is he is also the most racist of the Phoenix Lords. Not in a Dorhai or Dark Eldar way, but in an “Eldar’s burden” kind of way. He is very vocal about how he sees the Eldar as the pinnacle of creation and it’s up to the uncorrupted children of Isha and Kurnous to save the rest of the galaxy from themselves. As a result, while he is an ace in combat, he is a pain to deal with personally. This is one of the two reasons the old guard like him so much. Asurmen was/is a pragmatist who was willing to bend rules and change the status quo if it was the right thing to do (he did agree to Eldrad’s proposal after all). Baharroth is more of an idealist who conforms to the older generations’ ideas of how things “should be”. The other reason is he lasted longer in his original incarnation than almost any other Phoenix Lord barring Maugan Ra, and so many of his deeds pre-reincarnation are much more recent.

>>56477849
Not to mention that lasers shoot in a straight line forever at light speed, whereas plasma is relatively slow and can deviate like all mass based weaponry. In fact I'd imagine that most Imperial species, even if they don't use lasguns as their standard infantry rifle, use the long-las or hotshot lasgun as their sniper rifle of choice (other than special units like Vindicares, Eldar Rangers, or Astartes who laugh at recoil and have super-brains that can calculate trajectories in an instant).

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MAUGAN RA

Maugan Ra, as we all know, is the surly, aloof loner of the Phoenix Lords. Though in this case he has good reason to be, his entire Craftworld is dead, it’s memory perverted, and he’s one of the only survivors. In contrast to his brother, Maugan Ra is one of the least snobby Phoenix Lords, but this kind of manifests as a cynical fatalism towards everyone and everything. Everything dies eventually and everyone fucks up no matter who you are, no use sugarcoating it or pretending it didn’t happen.

Depending on the timeline, it’s not clear how old he was when Altansar got destroyed. Ra was said to be young at the time and was one of the few to make it off the Craftworld, but Altansar fell during the Fall of the Eldar, which was the same time that Asurmen pulled off his Caledor the Dragontamer impression. So he either did not learn under Asurmen directly (which further drives a wedge between him and the other Phoenix Lords) or he was maybe a young adult and hadn’t trained under Asurmen as long when the Fall happened. He could have even pulled a Luke-and-Yoda thing where he went off to try and save Altansar as an incompletely trained young hothead and failed.

Despite being all grim and dark, he does have standards. He would never kill an Exarch, much less an Avatar of Khaine, just to temper his weapon. He does have a heart of gold even though you’d never get him to admit it, he wouldn’t keep fighting the good fight if he didn’t. He was loyal to Asurmen and kind of insulted when the other Phoenix Lords suspected him of being the traitor that destroyed the Shrine of Asur, but it manifested as more of “You seriously thought I did it on the basis that I’m creepy and a loner. Wow. Way to make assumptions.”

Maugan Ra spends most of his time bumming out in the Webway. It means he can show up wherever and whenever he needs to and make a huge difference, and at the same time he doesn’t have people bothering him all the time.

>>56480063
KARANDAS

Surprisingly enough, it’s Karandas, rather than Maugan Ra, who has the biggest chip on his shoulder. Maugan Ra has angst over Altansar, but he lets it all hang out rather than keep it in. Karandas, on the other hand, is the only Phoenix Lord who was not the original master of their aspect. Arhra was. Karandas was just Arhra’s best student. So he thinks he should have seen Arhra’s PTSD-induced betrayal coming and stopped him (depending on how we interpret canon Eldar culture, on starships at least it’s seen as the job of the second-in-command to relieve their superior of duty if they think they’re going off the deep end).

He’s smart enough about it to not completely bottle it up inside and let it fester, because that’s exactly what happened to Arhra and he knows where that path leads.

>>56479985
Don't pulse weapons fire particle-sized mass-accelerated bursts of plasma and have built-in correcting stabilizers? It would mean pulse weapons have an additional system that one has to worry about breaking and has little stopping power though, the former being another reason why las might be seen as more reliable.

>>56477595
>What happened later is shrouded in mystery. Some claim that Arcturos became a guest of an Eldar Craftworld, whilst others say he roamed distant stars, transported by alien witchery. Whatever the truth, upon Arcturos’ return he was a deeply changed man. Arcturos swiftly became one of the Xeno Hybris’ faction’s most fervent members, and he is reputed to have a number of aliens amongst his retinue. Those who have spoken to Arcturos report that he is now obsessed with the Eldar’s means of viewing the future through a series of psycically-active runestones, and that he constantly practices this vile form of divination, basing every act on what he sees in the patterns of the stones.
Basically, he is an Eldarboo.

>>56480234
On the subject of Tau, I found something interesting about Kais. We mentioned that Kais was a natural outlier for Tau in terms of reflexes. Got a chance to take a look at the plot of the Fire Warrior novel and ironically there is something kind of like this in there. The other Fire Caste soldiers are a little nervous about Kais because reminds them of what the Tau were like during the Mon'tau.

It kind of makes some sense. The Fire Caste's naturally ability to fight might have been dulled by generations of peace once the Tau'va unified T'au. When the Tau got offworld and started fighting again for the first time in millenia, they largely used battlesuits that compensated for their reflexes and so never experienced as strong of selection for faster warriors. In other words, Kais might literally be a throwback to the days in which the Fire Caste were more Attila the Hun than professional soldier.

>>56480473
Or he could have been just something of a ninja freak.

>>56480249
Sounds like he should fif right in to the Nobledarkness.

How often did the Dark Eldar defect and flee to the Craftworlds?

Also how long has it been since Vect and Malys got married?

I've done a thing

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Nobledark_Imperium_Notable_Planets#Rynn.27s_World

Have I done a thing right?

>>56482184
It's been exactly one millenium. They made the announcement to coincide with Malys declaring the 12th Black Crusade on New Years Eve of 999.M40. The Dark Eldar didn't really participate in the Crusade (the rest of the Dark City except for the most cynical individuals were as shocked as the Imperium), the announcement was meant more as a "more doom hanging over your head" to the Imperium.

>>56481187
Makes sense. We have Imperial Tauaboos, Tau Imperiaboos, Eldar humanaboos, and everything inbetween. Makes sense there would be human Eldaraboos, especially given it is no longer heresy.

>What about Colchis?
What ABOUT Colchis? I mean, this is a case where the Eldaraboo-ing is on an individual basis, rather than a fusion of cultures.

>>56483107
Looks good. Written very well (especially the new parts).

>>56483967
So in this AU Staven Arcturos is from Colchis and is considered in his attitudes not unusual for someone from that world.

>>56484606
In which case he probably looks like a WHFB high elf with blunt ears. Or at least dresses like one.

>>56483107
Looks okay.

>also sexy Spaniards

Also Spaniard Amish elves. Do the Spanish have an equivalent to the Amish?

>>56484606
I would actually say the opposite: not from Colchis. Don't give in to the stereotype.

>>56488756
But stereotypes are always fun.

>>56480234
Are there more Phoenix Lords you are planning to do?

>>56490812
The only ones who don't have anything yet are Irillyth, Drastanta, and Lykhosidae. Also there is quite a bit of room for expansion on the others, given these are the Eldar equivalent of primarchs.

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Some general thoughts on tyranid anatomy for the sake of discussion.

Many tyranid species are characterized by pores along their head, neck, and thorax, suggesting a completely decoupled respiratory and digestive system in which air is taken in by spiracles (and indeed, this is suggested by Xenology based on purestrain genestealer dissections). Additionally, some of the more unusual tyranid physiological features, such as the “smokestacks” of the Swarmlord, can be easily produced by modifying a spiracular breathing system into more specialized organs. What this means is that tyranids can eat and eat and eat without having to stop and breathe, even compared to organisms like humans (even though they can’t really digest it that well in most cases).

However, in insects spiracles can cause problems because they cannot easily increase ventilation of the body, cause problems with molting, and the spiracles act as vectors for parasites. A system of spiracles that is powered by a more traditional lung-like pump and oxygen exchange seems more likely, as well as a lack of molting (with tyranids either metamorphosing like tadpoles or certain insects like beetles or growing and healing like vertebrates). The spiracles may also be able to constrict if they need to “hold their breath” (also explaining how tyranids can fight in space as well as the “tyranauts” of Sotha).

Tyranids are also described as having weird circulatory systems that are linked to some other system (I can’t find the link, but I was stumped when I saw it), and genestealers have been described as having an outright open circulatory system. This may mean that some of their muscles are hydraulics pressurized by more “normal” muscles, meaning they can hit like a truck.

>>56495247
It also has to be noted that most tyranids aren't expected to live for more than a few days. They don't live long enough for problems to develop.

>>56495247
It basically sounds like "insects, but with some troubleshooting applied".

I expect given the smokestacks that Tyranids may operate on a similar system to sea sponges and high end PCs, in that they have a large, diffuse number of intakes leading to a small number of higher pressure outflows, in a continuous flow. While this supports high metabolism operation in an environment with good atmosphere, to "hold their breath" they probably rely on filling their respiratory circuit as best they can (probably not very well) and mostly just chemically adsorb any gases they need access to, like whales.

Its possible they may have redundant respiration pathways that can make use of other gases like nitrogen etc. to give themselves more environmental flexibility and get more mileage out of small volumes of held air.

>>56496416
Tyranid respiration could- probably does- vary radically depending on strain and environment, adapting for local conditions. Adaptation is there entire thing, after all.

>>56492183
At least one of the Phoenix Lords, the one from tue craftworld in Tau Space, developed independently. Contact was made with them after The Raid and the formal alliance of men and elves.

>>56480473
I wouldn't have him be physically different to regular Fire Warriors, it's his attitude towards things that is somewhat more primitive bordering on primeval.

Other Fire Warriors are wary of him because he reminds them of all they have supposed to have left behind.

>>56492183
Is there an equivalent of a Phoenix Lord for eldar rangers?

Are there going to be more Legienstrausse and Draco stories? Last one ended on a bit of a downer.

Also do they fug?

>>56500826
They do not fug. They are professionals and Jaq Draco isn't that crazy.

>>56500826
It was suggested in the last thread they are more platonic bros. Because Draco's too flighty for a stable relationship, and both Legien and Draco know it. Legien would want a "normal" relationship to make her feel more normal, and Draco knows she would probably punch him if he played fast and loose with her trust and emotions. Also because if they did that would mean Legienstrasse's offspring would all potebtially be alpha-level psyker Alex Mercers.

>>56501869
Mad Jaq isn't i don't think that powerful.

He's possession resistant in a way because his brain has been double-mazed so if something ever does get in it can't do much except get tangled up and eventually starve.

His tangled ball of string of a brain also makes him difficult to read even beyond his formidable defences.

This and his ability to navigate the webway are what make him dangerous, unpredictable and odd.

>>56499114
Can't see them having. They aren't a path, they what you get when you remove path but keep sanity.

>>56502670
Mad Jaq is an Alpha Level psyker. In terms of raw psychic level output he's one of the strongest psykers the Imperium has, which is part of the reason he's on Ganymede in the first place. He's just as much there to shut down anything that tries to escape as kept there to make sure someone has an eye on him at all times.

There was some discussion of where some psykers fit on the chart, the problem is how to deal with Eldar (who can hide their power level...I mean change their degree of psychic abilities). Apex Twins are the only explicitly Alpha Plus described so far. I don't think Magnus mentioned but he was also probably Alpha Plus, if not between that level and Emperor tier. Emperor, being a Man of Gold, is off the charts.

Eldrad was described as abnormally powerful for an Eldar. If he were human he would be Alpha Plus. Alpha Pluses in general are rare because in addition to the usual factors they can break planets while in utero.

Ahriman was never mentioned, but he might be an Alpha or Alpha Minus. He's strong and talented, but it's not clear how much of his power comes from brute strength as opposed to talent. We do know that Magnus saw him as his surrogate son and logical successor, which is the only reason he taught him Ada's daemon summoning techniques in the first place (on the grounds that the knowledge had to be preserved somehow given the possibility that someday the situation might be so dire it was necessary, and that Ahriman was the most responsible person he could think of and in his mind was smart enough to never use them unless there was literally no other choice). He had no idea Ahriman would snap after the Rubric and Prospero burned.

>>56503310
Agreed on the path thing. Did we ever do anything with Illic Nightspear?

>>56496416
In canon, the smokestacks also have the advantage of spewing horrible spores out all over the battlefield, further sapping the enemy. It's like having allergies, but instead of you inhaling nasty spores you're spewing pollen all over your enemies and making them sick.

>>56496483
Agreed. Regardless of their original body plan (which was six-limbed something based on what we know), tyranids have probably stolen and mixed and matched until they find the "best" system to use for furthering their goals (by which I mean eating). "Best" is probably subjective depending on hive fleet and environment.

>>56498012
Wasn't Kais' father in canon basically an alcoholic and a horrible person whose negative side was covered up by propaganda and half the plot was Kais thinking he had to live up to his father's (fake) image only to find out after he became Doom'tau that all of his older mentors knew the truth and thought his father was an asshole and Kais was the real deal?

>>56504526
>Agreed on the path thing. Did we ever do anything with Illic Nightspear?

No and it's surprising given the character.

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Speaking about the Phoenix Lords. Would the Crone Eldar cults have something like that? The Gorgons, the Meatwavers, the Shrikes?

>>56504526
Illic Nightspear is a discipline of Kurnous. Originally from Alaitoc but found no peace on their Paths. Left and became an exodite for a time on a harsh world of long winters. As an exodite he found in the hard life meaning and contentment for many centuries.

But in time his heart grew weary and he found less and less joy in the work.

One cold winter's day a band of Hunters walked into town to trade bone and furs for drink and trinkets. Clad in animal skins and primitive paints of ash and ground rock and walking with a supremely confident swagger they intrigued him. When next they left the village he went with them.

That was about a thousand years ago. As of 999M41 Illic Nightspear is a hunter and predator beyond compare and can navigate the webway. Clad in skins and ash and armed with simple stone tipped spear, wooden bow and flint tipped arrows he would be considered a joke in any war of the Dark Millenium. But then you notice the gene-stealer teeth neckless and the bone knife handle made from a single chunk of squigoth ivory. Most unbelievable of all is the necron finger.

>>56506694
they might have powerful warriors that stand above the rest, but the phoenix lords are pretty bound up with their post fall history. There are also the Puppets and Masters, the Scions, the Bonesingers, all would presumably have some structure and leader, Arrotyr for the Scions, but we haven't touched on them much.

>>56506694
The Crones wouldn't be as organized as the Aspect Warriors. The Aspects were created by Asurmen as a way of self-discipline and a way to fight back against Chaos, whereas the Dark Eldar counterpart, the Incubi, are in-universe donut steel ripoffs of the Aspect Temples (and it's suggested that they're a result of Arhra starting his own, so they have a direct connection with the original).

For the Crones it seems to be more of a religious calling, though it would likely have some of that same obsessiveness that is associated with the Eldar in general.

>>56507175
>this
its a really great picture you paint anon. I'm reminded that part of our setting's tonal shift is that the galaxy doesn't just seem a medieval wilderness that surrounds and encroaches on the rare bits of true civilization, be they good or wicked, because of some sort of galactic mismanagement. The wilderness is real, it strives against conquest from Man, Eldar, Crone, Necron, and even Tyranid. The wilds of the galaxy, the materium as well as the immaterium, are well able to swallow up the horrors that dwell in them.

>>56507989
Yup. The possibility always exists that the victors of the upcoming war for the Milky Way may not be Team Imperium, Team Chaos, Team Necron, Team Tyranid, or even Team Ork. It might be Team Enslaver.

>>56510758
I know there's been a bit of discussion of weird, unaffiliated things out in the Chaos Wastes, where none of the Big Four hold sway.

>>56506694
>>56507886
It's probably like with the CSM champions in canon. Other than the primarch-tier entities and the major champions of the Big Four (Kharn, Lucius, Typhus, and Ahriman in canon, Arrotyr, the Taskmaster, Nimina, and the Amaranthine Astrapia here), you probably have lots of other champions that don't quite reach that level, but are still renowned for their degree of debauchery. Like canon Honsou and the Iron Warriors.

There are probably famous Gorgons, Meatweavers, Shrikes, etc., though they probably don't reincarnate like the Phoenix Lords. Phoenix Lords require soul stones to work, which if I recall right the Crone Eldar hate (beyond using them to transport souls for easy carrying) because it prevents them from becoming "one with their gods".

If they do come back it's probably because they've sufficiently won the favor of the gods to do it, and then it's straight up resurrection as opposed to whatever the Phoenix Lords do.
>>56507175
I like it. It really helps expand on the Disciples of Kurnous which we really need.

>>56510758
It's unlikely to be another enslaver plague unless everyone else has already killed each other and the last survivors are largely psychic

>>56507989
>>56513122
I was going for the more primal aspects of the eldar and their faiths. The Hunters of Kurnous are possibly the oldest of the sub-groups of the eldar to exist in an unbroken line. Isha and her disciples are close but the old religion failed in The Fall and the line of continuity was broken and she had to rebuild from a new start.

On the other hand the Hunters have actually outlived their god and it's possible that their order originates among the pre-Old One proto-eldar. But it possibly won't make much difference any more as without Kurnous they are a dying breed. Fewer and fewer of their kind feel drawn to The Hunt and they don't make up for their losses like they used to. It's possible that an order that was around to hunt the T-Rex is going to die out soon.

The Hunters take this philosophically. These things happen, there isn't anything they can do about it. What upsets them more is that the hunting grounds beyond the silver sea that should be there for the dead to retire in is a twisted mockery of what it should be. Most of it was taken by Nurgle and is now a festering swamp and rotting dead trees and what's left is burned and blasted stumps on the edge of Khorne's battle grounds. Neither is fit for them to go to. They aren't sure what happened to all those who were there before but since The Fall they have been retiring into the Exodite World Souls.

The Imperium, perhaps due to their rarity, does not understand them. They see them as feral and slightly stupid as they hunt things unspeakable with weapons of chipped stone and wood. They usually stop laughing when they return with the freshly pealed skull of a Chaos Warlord.

Unlike regular eldar the Hunters can seem to live off a diet of nearly nothing but meat without getting ill. They are held with reverence by craftworlders and exodites, contempt by the croneworlders and contempt hiding fear by the commorraghites. Nobody knows what the Harlequins think of them.

>>56500826
If no one take it I I will write.

My apologies in advance.

>>56510758
Pretty much this >>56514394
I’m surprised anybody remember that the Old Ones got BTFO by Enslavers while the Eldar just hid in the Webway.

>>56500826

Maybe they will, but it would be the last time they will. Her last christmas, a last night before something really, really stupid by Jaq as the End times come roaring in or something.

Helenia Valaria is said to be the other candidate alongside Gideon Ravenor to the High Lord seat. we can assume that most of Ravenors deeds remain the same.

Other than getting stuck in a box what has Valaria done?

>>56504673
Kais in this was raised in a state boarding school. Are we keeping him the same father?

>>56519112
She's basically Space Lara Croft/Indiana Jones. Xenoarchaeologist who goes around looking for archaeotech and xenos technology. Or any lost historical information that could be of use really. Hence why she tried to break into Solemnace.

She's not a Xanthite like in canon though. We said what faction she is but I don't have the thread on hand.

>>56522790 (same)
Knew I forgot something. Valeria also has a nemesis in the form of Emil Darkhammer. Crazy monodominant who doesn't like Valeria poking around with archaeotech or xenoarchaeology and will destroy whatever she's looking for out of spite with the flimsiest excuses, even if she's cooperating with the AdMech on official business. He probably thinks humanity needs no help to stand on its own and sees Valeria poking around with archaeotech as going to doom them all.

He was pathetically easy to convert to Fyodor's cause, because it allowed him to Javert his obsession without getting chewed out for it.

>>56522956
Has there ever been description of what she looks like or where she's from?

Are there any Phoenix Lords that specialize in telekinesis?

>>56525127
Eldrad is kind of the Phoenix Lord equivalent of a psyker. There's only one of him and he doesn't reincarnate, but he's the most powerful Eldar that focuses on psychic ability as opposed to martial talents. The Phoenix Lords are all disciples of Khaine and I'm not sure if Aspect Warriors do a lot of direct combat with Warp Power (Warlocks do, but I don't know where they fit in, someone with greater 40k-fu than me please correct me).

>>56523540
Nope. And I think she got BLAM!-ed in canon when she got let out of Trazyn's magic box during the Fall of Cadia.

>>56522790
Bow closely are we going to base her on Lara Croft.

>>56528763
I'd say more Indiana Jones than Lara Croft. Goes poking around old alien necropolises and ancient long-abandoned human worlds, but is doing it for the benefit of the Imperium. She probably Maybe. I don't know too much about Tomb Raider lore. Not to mention Darkhammer is literally the Belloq to Valeria's Jones, except he just smashes the stuff she finds.

In canon, Darkhammer burned down an entire Hive World just because Valeria thought that a super-Gellar field Xenos artifact Valeria was looking for *might* be located there. He's so bad that even in the xenophobic totalitarian theocracy that is the vanilla!Imperium people think he goes too far (they think Valeria goes too far in vanilla too, so the Inquisition's reaction to the feud is "I am not getting involved in that").

In addition, despite the fact that in canon Inquisitors are not supposed to declare Exterminatus unless absolutely necessary, Darkhammer in vanilla has been known to declare Exterminatus to kill a handful of people, and has burned over thirty worlds. Why hasn't someone BLAM!-ed this guy already?

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>>56529358
Dark hammer is perfect

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>>56529358
Emil Darkhammer would fit well into this Nobledark AU with after a bit of alteration. He hasn't Exterminatus'd multiple worlds for minor reasons. In Vanilla that probably gets you BLAM!ed for wasting Imperial assets unless you know people in even higher places that can bail your ass out of the fire.

In this AU an exterminates is usually career poison at best even if it was deemed necessary and grounds for public execution if it was considered unnecessary. Just look at the restrictions Kryptman got slapped with after the Kryptman Line.

So it's more likely in this AU that he is a raving human supremacist who has organized death camps. They wouldn't be called that of course; they would be called Sorting Stations and Temporary Detention Centres. Places to hold people whilst they are checked over for gene-stealer taint or Chaos Corruption.

It's just that these camps typically held the rounded up xeno citizens and those who associated with them, spoke up on their behalf or just objected to what was happening.

But they were undeniably effective. Just look at how many stealer hybrids and chaos thralls he found. He and his people should be rewarded for finding them, nobody else could spot their supremely well hidden corruptions. To the untrained eye, any eye but those of he and his people, they could pass as real people.

These camps alone have claimed the lives of potentially tens of billions but it was usually done on more distant worlds and so well hidden in the paperwork that it wasn't until Fyodor Karamazov's botched uprising and civil war that it all came to light. Emil Darkhammer, as Fyodor's right hand goon, also has the Carcharodons after him. Him personally and his friends. Not the cause or the organization, no appeal or trial. He is hunted.

Troubling is that nobody knows for sure how high up his supporters in the Administratum were or how many. High Lord Haemotalion has ordered an internal investigation, someone's going to burn for this.

>>56532080
The Dpt. of Internal Investigation are what keep the Administratum worker awake at night. They ultimately answer only to the High Shit Lord (and the Emperor, theoretically) himself. The Dark Clerks and Grim Statisticians are what get set on outside associated administrators and bureaucrats and the auditing of planetary Governors to find their off-world bank accounts. They have channels or authority to answer to and obey and have to hand over the seemingly guilty to the relevant authorities for trial and punishment.

The D.I.I. are a different animal. They only operate when guilt and wrong-doing is unquestionably known, as in this case, and now just need a name and an address to pin it to. They absolutely do have the correct paper work to perform an on the spot execution in a manner that can legally range from a quick chop where you go quick all the way up to stringing someone up on a lamppost and letting them choke slowly.

Being the friend of ex-Inquisitor Emil Darkhammer is going to cost someone very steep.

Not that Darkhammer would really care about that, they will just be to him martyrs to his insane cause.

In contrast to him is Lady-Inquisitor Helynna Valeria. The title Lady was something she had before becoming an Inquisitor as she is an old-blood aristocrat from one of the relatively minor cadet branches of the Praetorian aristocracy. To the pride and annoyance of her parents she abandoned the comfy life of luxury and opulence and set out to serve rather than rule. She is very well educated in the Imperial classics and has much love of history that extends to all history, even and especially that of the multitudes of xenos. Her speciality is the points where history and myth mingle and the truth is lost in the middle. It is speculated that she is deep down trying to find the answer to the age old question "why?". She trawls the deeps of time for the ultimate moment of cause from which all around her is merely an effect.

>>56532309
Due to her seniority by 999M41 she is legally a Lady Inquisitor by the Inquisitions own naming and hierarchy traditions. Which would make her a Lady-Lady Inquisitor though anybody drawing attention to this is considered to be taking the piss.

Her high birth did not buy her any short cuts in the Inquisition and she started her career at the tender age of 16 in the employ of Inquisitor ██████ ███ ████ of the Ordo Xenos before his untimely death in the ruins of an early First Nation Rashan structure. After being assigned a new master her competence was evident; she was extremely clever, had an astounding physique and was an excellent shot with small arms.

By age 60 she was an Inquisitor in her own right with a retinue of specialists and a badge to her name.

By her centenary she had a string of successes to her name and a string of contacts across swathes of the Imperium. With success and fame came rivalry and resentment and many saw her introduction of "outside" influences into the Inquisition as threatening and degenerate.

In the years that were to follow no rival would be greater to her than Emil Darkhammer.

Lady-Inquisitor Valeria over the centuries of her service has proven to have a knack for uncovering ancient artefacts and strange buried wonders. Rumour has it that she has an entire gallery dedicated to her finds on Ganymede.

Most surprising of her contacts is old Nemensor Zahndrekh of Gidrim of whom she became acquainted when he freed her from the hellish confines of one of Trazyn's tesseracts. The two of them have since become good friends and she is possibly his most regular visitor.

By 999M41 Lady Helynna Valeria is centuries old, though she might appear and act youthful, and is a serious candidate for Inquisitorial Representative when Hector Rex stands down. Her greatest rival in this is the crippled Gideon Ravenor, a man she greatly respects and would not mind seeing in that position.

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>>56529358
We have no official description of Inquisitor Helynna Valeria. She can look like Lara Croft because we all know that's what you're asking.

>>56468501
Would Legienstrasse even be able to get trippy off of Savlar's breeze?

>>56535076
The last writing had her able to drink three times a lethal dose of alcohol and merely get drunk, but it's not clear how much she had to drink to get there.

That said, a trippin' Legienstrausse is probably not a good idea for anyone around her.

>>56535386
She was drunk because she chose to be. If she wanted she could form a super-liver from her biomass and purge any toxins in moments, but it seemed she wanted to forget.

>>56535978
She also defaults to human shape due to having been born human.

>>56533803
I would go with later tomb raider pictures if thats the direction we are going. We already have one titty queen in the fluff, another would be getting a bit much.

>>56536911
I second this. Normal human proportions.

>>56532620
So is this going on the 1d4chan?

If so it's going to need work separating the Darkhammer and Valeria stuff.

>>56480249
How would you portray an Imperial Human Eldaraboo?

>>56541108
Probably an individual who plays up how noble and wise the Eldar are, and how much humanity has to learn from them. Probably get people rolling their eyes at them, including possibly some Eldar who see them as ass-kissers. That said, other Eldar would probably eat it up.

>>56538689

Or an ultra-flat chest. Not that she minds, those only gets in the way when she need to pull some Lara Croft-esque acrobatic stunts.

(That and she can hide some extra guns/ artifacts where her boobs are supposed to be.)

>>56532080
Part of it too might be that the Inquisition had some idea that Darhammer was doing things that weren't legit, but based on the things he was actually caught doing the Inquisition could never do more than basically scold him. So Darkhammer already has a resentment towards the greater Inquisition, and Fyodor provides a better alternative because it means he gets to work for a boss that actually approves of his methods.

>>56532620
The fact that both Valeria and Darkhammer are considered "young" and yet their rivalry lasted long enough that Darkhammer jumped ship to Fyodor suggests that the Inquisitorial Civil War and Fyodor's subsequent coup attempt were pretty recent in the timeline. Like within the last century or so at least.

Is the Inquisitorial Civil War a civil war? We've always seemed to describe it as "the greatest catastrophe that never happened to the Imperium", because the public at large never found out about it and it would be the equivalent of the CIA and FBI nearly going into open war without the rest of United States knowing (substitute organizations for your country of choice). Or all those near-misses of nuclear annihilation during the Cold War. The most disturbing thing about it is it raises the old question of "who watches the watchmen?" back up.

>>56532620
There was an additional part to this suggested in Thread 29. When Trazyn caught Valeria in what was essentially a cheap dimestore Tesseract he was partly hoping she would figure out how to break out on her own. Trazyn sees Valeria as a kindred spirit with them both being xenoanthropologists with a habit of collecting things. Trazyn’s kind of disappointed that the Imperium went to Zahndrekh for help, instead of Valeria figuring out how to get out on her own. Of course, Valeria wasn’t even aware it was possible to break out of a Tesseract Labryinth from the inside, being more familiar with the high-end stuff build for C’tan that doesn’t contain an emergency off switch.

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>>56545890 (same)
I'm not sure how close she would be to being in the big chair. It's a ten year rotating position, right? How many years of experience are needed?

Another thing that was mentioned is that among the many groups she has contact with to try to piece together galactic history and rediscover ancient technology is the Daemon Breakers. She draws the line at messing with actual Warp corrupted stuff (not being a Xanthite in this timeline), but the fact that she's willing to associate with them and poke around Necron stuff (because at least that doesn't corrupt your soul) but that might make some Inquisitors see her as reckless and naive (which is why some might support Ravenor, who proved he had major willpower when he didn't go down the same path as Eisenhorn).

The other question is how welcome is she on Gidrim. As others have pointed out while the Nemesor would love the company, Valeria is likely to ask a billion questions, some of which are likely to make Obyron's scythe hand start acting up.

Also, on an unrelated note, are Necron Pariahs a thing in this universe, since that seems to be a liked part of the fluff that GW removed. Maybe as a side project of the biotransference experiments?

>>56545890
Doesn't really qualify as a civil war since Karamazov and his lackeys have been running for their lives since the assassination attempt. His faction was always a small minority in the Inquisition due to just how crazy and traitorous the idea was, and the need for utter secrecy probably prevented him from recruiting too many conspirators. Now he's being hunted by one of the most relentless and bloodthirsty Astartes chapters, as well as whatever other Inquisition, Alpha Legion, and Arbites resources can be spared.

To his credit, he is very, very cunning and resourceful, and the galaxy is a very, very big place, so thus far he's managed to slip away. However, if the Imperium ever gets any actionable intel, he may find a very angry Emperor popping out of the nearest Webway portal to show him how the Assassins of old were broken to the Imperium's will.

>>56546478

Fag that propped the Civil War idea here. Well, originally I wanted for Fyodor to have been a 'Second coming', of sorts, of Goge Vandire. Insanely charismatic and efficent but a batshit-insane-lunatic-asshole-cunt-dick, and has drawn/set up quite a lot of support in the fringe areas from the 12th Black Crusade and his little time as the Inquisitorial Representative that lasted for barely as long. The Civil War is not so much a civil war, yes, but it ain't be so easy as a mere hunt for the Carchies, and cracking down on Fyodor and his goons' shit is akin to a war versus a galaxy-wide organized crime syndicate/ terrorist group. Like the Mob in the US and how hey needed the FBI to clean them up, that's where my original inspiration came from. And now that the 13th Black Crusade is ongoing it would create a lot of cracks for Fyodor to slip through - and fuel for his flame.

>>56546478

>if the Imperium ever gets any actionable intel, he may find a very angry Emperor popping out of the nearest Webway portal to show him how the Assassins of old were broken to the Imperium's will

Ooooh. I'd read that.

>>56546478
Are we keeping or loosing the assassination attempt? There was disagreement last time the subject was raised.

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>>56543958
Or we could just assume that she looks like Alicia Vikander who is playing Lara Croft in the new movie as she is pretty normally proportioned.

Hopefully it won't suck as much as the last movie.

>>56545966
I imagine that she would have been very well briefed on Zahndrekh after she made it back to the Imperium. Assuming she hadn't already read up on him excessively which given her interests she must have done.

Also there is the point that if it was as easily as a casually dropped word Zahndrekh would probably have woken up long ago. So long as she chooses her words carefully all will be well.

Zahndrekh believes he and his people are the last real remnants of the First Empire holding true to the traditions and values of that Empire.

They are flesh and blood Necrontyr.

He and his people went into stasis for 65,000,000 years.

The Imperium is a direct but distant heir of the First Empire made up mostly of the descendants of the Necrontyr (humans and eldar) who didn't go into stasis.

The Silent King died millions of years ago. He either didn't enter stasis or his stasis tomb broke down some time between here and there. This shit stain running around claiming to be the last of the Triarchs is some petty little alien pretender trying to cash in on the glory of those that came before. This "Silent King" is a scoundrel and a coward and acts with not one shred of nobility.

So long as Lady Inquisitor Valeria remembers to view the galaxy through these beliefs all will be well.

>>56550264
I always intended to do some writefagging on this interaction, the two of them sitting down to dinner and discussing things.

Maybe tonight once I have some time.

>>56548565
I think the general consensus was that it happened, but the actual assassins weren't involved. Fyodor had been using a feral or feudal world Death Cult as his own private assassins, reasoning if the Assassinorum is what you get when you give a Death Cult some training, gear, and funding, then why not make his own? They aren't as good as the Assassinorum, they probably don't have access to polymorphine or Blanks for example, but they have access to the kind of gear that only the Inquisition could get for you. The world they come from is an uncharted world, so they have no social contact with the rest of the Imperium and almost see Fyodor as a god.

That said, Fyodor's mistake was thinking that his knock-offs could perform a job that the real deal couldn't, and suffered the consequences.

Is there anything done with Inquisitor Toth?

Sometime near the end of the latest Sphere of Expansion, a Tau expeditionary force came across a world known as Sha’Galudd. This world had been known for some time, but it was only now that the Ethereal council decided the world was to be surveyed and settled. It was a lush world, not to the Tau’s climatic preferences but more than capable of supporting a colony. However, when the first settlers set foot on Sha’Galudd, they found the world was already home to another xenos species, the worm-like Nagi.

First contact between the Nagi and the Tau was surprisingly violent, even when compared to other races like the Kroot. However, before long the Nagi leaders came before the Ethereals of the expeditionary force in the interests of peace. They said that they had been unjustly persecuted by other xenos races into hiding on Sha’Galudd, and all they wanted to do was live in peace. They thought the Tau were these same invaders but had only just realized they were not, and now wanted to live in harmony with them. The xenos were even willing to cede most of the planet to the Tau, as they themselves needed little space to live. Within a few decades the world of Sha’Galudd was thriving, with many Nagi serving as advisors to the planet’s Ethereals. With the colony flourishing, the Ethereals of Sha’Galudd sent a message to the Ethereal Council of T’au, telling the homeworld of the good news.

At this time, the Tau had been formally inducted into the Imperium, and the Ethereal Council were taking full advantage of the Imperium’s records to try and learn as much as they could about the galaxy beyond. When they heard the news from Sha’Galudd, as well as a description of the xenos the expeditionary fleet had encountered, they immediately recognized what they were dealing with and dispatched a military fleet in response.

The aliens of the planet had introduced themselves to the as the Nagi. The rest of the galaxy knew them as the Slaugth.

>>56556677
The Tau acted quickly, deploying an entire contingent (Tio’ve) of Hunter Cadre’s to Sha’Galudd. The Ethereal Council privately hoped the situation could be solved without bloodshed, but when the contingent arrived they found themselves being fired upon by their own people. The Ethereals and much of the military of Sha’Galudd had been infested and subverted by the Slaugth, turning them into a veritable revenant army. The fighting was savage and brutal, much of it being room-to-room urban combat interspersed with attacks from Slaugth constructs created from Tau biomass. Nevertheless, despite the brutality of the fighting it was fortunate the contingent arrived when they did, for if they had arrived later it is likely that the entire planet would have been infected and turned into yet another infestation for the Slaugth.

The results of this battle, specifically how quickly and decisively the Ethereals dealt with the Slaugth, showed that although the Tau were still a young and ambitious race, they were quickly shedding their naivete and were more than willing to adapt to their surroundings.

Thoughts?

I'm working on a write-up for the Slaugth and the Rangdan Xenocides, but this idea popped up. The idea behind this was to show how the Tau are becoming smarter with experience and are increasingly learning how to use the resources at their disposal.

The idea is that the Slaugth tried to play up the helpless pity angle, expecting to exploit the Tau's sympathy to infest them but the Tau saw right through the act. The only issue is the way it reads right now could imply that the Slaugth were telling the truth and these really were "good Slaugth who wanted to be left alone" rather than the entire Sha'Galudd affair being bait for the Tau like it was intended to be. On the other hand, putting in more of the inconsistencies might spoil the Slaugth reveal.

>>56556787
>The only issue is the way it reads right now could imply that the Slaugth were telling the truth and these really were "good Slaugth who wanted to be left alone"

Dey gud boyz, deh dindu nuffin

It reads good. Slaugth started horrendous shit, got slapped, tried to play the victim to the new kid, did horrendous shit to the new kid and got fucked for it.

It's good, it shows that the Tau are nice but not fucking morons.

>>56556915
Thanks. That was how it was supposed to come off.

So have Tau ever fallen to Chaos in this timeline? I assume since the "almost never falls to Chaos" license has been revoked for the Eldar, Orks, and Sisters and the Tau aren't as indoctrinated by the Tau'va that Tau might not be immune to Chaos in this timeline as well.

It would still be an incredibly rare occurrence, because most daemons don't even notice Tau unless they are shooting at them and Tau don't have a warp presence worth noting, but it would go from being "near impossible" to "extremely, extremely rare".

I was asking because I heard in canon there was a Water Caste member who fell to Chaos called Water Spider, and I had an interesting idea for them. It also fit with what is known about the Tau much better than what little canon information I could find basically, in the new Farsight book Phil Kelly says that Farsight, Shadowsun, and Water Spider are Tau psykers which...no just no.

>>56554754
Nothing to my knowledge has been done, aside from one suggestion that he has worked with the Blood Ravens.

>>56560302
I'd say it could technically be possible but has never happened.

There are no Tau psykers

Speaking of Tau, here's a suggestion for an opening paragraph for Aun'Va.

According to the official histories, Aun’o’T’au’Acaya’Va’Denta, more commonly abbreviated to Aun’Va, was born in 785.M41 in on T’au. In truth, he was actually born in the medina quarter of one of the empires of ancient T’au in almost the exact same spot some three millennia earlier. Aun’Va was the first of the Eight Disciples of Da to convert to the Tau’va, and he will be the last to die. Will be. As in he has yet to die.

I wasn't sure how old Aun'Va's current identity is claiming to be. We said the Tau have very primitive rejuvenants and can prolong life up to a century or so from a starting point of 40ish years. I think it's been said the Ethereals have been suggested in canon to live for a few centuries too in contrast to other Tau (which here could be explained by them having easier access to rejuvenants since they are not engineered). Aun'Va could be getting sick of constantly having to adopt new identities and this time is going with "I'm just an oddball case who happens to have super-good compatibility with rejuvenants. And nothing else."

A funny note, in canon it is said that when he was so knowledgeable about the Tau'va he would give the questioner the answer before he was even asked. The funny implication posed by Aun'Va in this timeline is that he's been through the questioning so many times he knows the entire routine by heart.

>>56550264
It probably helps that his memories mostly date back to the Wars of Secession, in which Szarekh was much younger. He hasn't seen all the change in personality Szarekh has undergone in-between so modern Szarekh seems like an impostor.

>>56561874
I like this version of Aun'Va. Makes him a sort of humble immortal priest-king. He has been with his people since the beginning and has been a guiding hand for all their history.

How many others should know of his longevity?

any news on fulgrimfag?

>>56563337
We do know that Shadowsun, for one, has been around long enough to notice the rather glaring lack of inconsistencies from Aun'Va to Aun'Va. This was touched upon in the last two(?) threads, but I'm unsure if she's confronted him or not.

>>56556787
The fact that the Slaugth targeted specifically the Sha'Galudd expedition leadership and the Tau military forces before the Hunter Cadre response had even arrived should clear up any doubt about the "we're the good Slaugth" angle for readers. Although in canon it seems that the loss of any highly-respected Ethereals creates a lot more anger on the Tau side, here it reads to be a little subdued.

Found (and edited) these from very old threads.

>> Hope, Necrons.

Some might ask why do they, the immortals who once ruled this galaxy, not express their supremacy and rule over but instead walk and live among mortals, pretending to be them?

Thats the thing.

They want to rule, yes, but they need to live.

They need it hard.

They need it so hard they can almost fucking taste it.

Pretending to be human, walking amongst the living for just one more time? Thats fucking beautiful for them.

Just one more day. Just one more time.

To walk the streets full of the bustle and vitality of the living, to believe that they are alive again for just one moment.

It isn't home. That burned so long ago even the fossil evidence had vanished. But maybe if they could pretend, it would be enough.

It is more than enough.

There are Necrons willing to fight and die a true death for humanity. There are Necrons willing to give up the immortality they had strove so hard for to get.

They are willing, because its all that left to make them feel alive.

It is their last hope.

>>Hope

Hope. It is many things.

It is the thought that steadies a soldier's arm when he's beset with doubt.

It is the lifeline the Navigators hold onto, what guides him in the currents of the sea of Souls.

It is the truth that resonates within the bosom of a zealot, to keep him going in his darkest hour.

It is the reason Farseers continue to dwelve into the Sea of Soul, seeing all the endless possibilities of death and destruction and failure and not go despair or mad.

It is the reason a Hero wake up and look into the mirror every morning, and proclaim loudly.

Not today, Death.

Not today.

>>56563883
The Ethereals weren't killed, they were brainwashed Yeerk-style into serving the Slaugth. Control the Ethereals and the higher ranks of other castes and you essentially control the colony as long as there's nothing to make the Tau think something is wrong.

The uninfested population of Sha'Galudd, all things considered, probably hid the minute they saw Tau on Tau violence. The ones who fired on the Tio've would have had to be infested.

Also in this timeline the Ethereals don't have brainwashing capabilities. Their authority is derived from a lot of social engineering and a quasi-divine mandate (since the Greater Good is essentially secular). Kill an Ethereal and you might get anything from panic to rage to something else entirely, but it would be the kind of reaction that a soldier might get to seeing a well-respected government individual get shot in front of them.

>>56566828

OK, that is hilarious and adorable... until I noticed what's on the platter. Yuck!

... and for some reason, the more I look at it, the more it creeps me out that the Solitaire is looking back at me. And I *like* Solitaires!

Everything *else* about it is still adorable, though.

>>56566828
Have we touched upon Yvraine yet?

>>56568586
The more we do Tau the more they seem to be turning into Mimbari.

>>56564877
How many Skele-bots are running around the Imperium?

Not including Zahndrekh, as he isn't a robot.

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>>56563883
She awoke as always to emptiness, always the same feeling. Loss and regret and creeping dread of all the things left behind knowingly and the things she had not realized each time. When she was young T'au had been a far different place, better it had been to her mind or at least more familiar. She had barely known her parents or siblings as with all Fire Warriors though what she did remember was love and warmth. Old comrades, lovers, friends and even the rivals all lost to the Time Thief.

In the moments before the deep sleep, when the steel sheath came down over glass but the drugs hadn't put her out like a candle there was a moment of darkness. Candle flame is brightest in pure darkness without stars. In those moments before the sleep as all distractions ceased the light, the impossible light shone brightest. The light beyond space and stars and the inferno of war. In the stillness of a beatless heart, still lungs and almost total biological shut down, in the quiet and weightlessness of a sleep impossibly deeper than mere death her lidless eyes were naked before eternal warming flame.

It was in that fire that her ashes were reborn upon awakening, time stolen from death, life beyond the Thief of Time. Usefulness once more in sacrifice to The Greater Good. More days stored away like winter grain offered in sacrifice to the heathen gods of ancient days, life, her life offered in stolen days for the lives of her people.

She had only seen the light of that candle flame in one other place. Reflected in the eyes of another living relic washed up on the shores of this strange era. In those eyes it was not candle flame flickering and dancing and gentle. In those eyes it was the constant glare. Two holes cut into a man's face right to the heart of a star, unceasing, incomprehensible intensity. It ultimately brought life but it was not gentle, it was inferno and holocaust and it was eternal.

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The Thief of Time had stolen her friends and lovers and rivals but it clawed seemingly in vain at the stony countenance of Aun’o’T’au’Acaya’Va’Denta. Aun'Va, he of granite and basalt. Timeless as a mountain and about as stubborn. She knew that he lied, he was the old man she had spoken to in her youth, he who had commanded her into battle in another era. He told others that there had been a line of Va, a lineage of the name unbroken since the days of Aun'Da. But she knew that for the centuries that she had seen and knew of him he had always been himself. The same old man in whom the Greater Good burned like star fire.

How far back did he go? Was he the First Disciple of scripture? That would be impossible she knew, unthinkable and unreasonable, but these were unreasonable times that had seen things unthinkable and horrifying. He had lived impossibly long, how far did impossibility go?

And he knew that she knew. How many other knew of his unnatural longevity? How many had he lied to? Did it matter? Deception was one more weapon of war. Used when needed and put aside in times of peace.

Much like herself.

Her heart beat again in the darkness. The flame receded. Blood began to flow through her veins, sluggish at first, her heart a timid and flickering thing now in this time of rebirth.

Now was the moment of true darkness. The steel sheath still enclosing, protecting her as she awoke. The device she lay in was a relic of her era, familiar and comforting. One day she knew she would not wake up from it and it would be a deathbed. She was fine with that, her ashes would return to her people, distant now as they were.

Another beat of the heart. Stronger now. Blood forced to move. Sensation returned to her extremities, burning as the capillaries adjusted oxygen binding to cobalt as the decades old oxy-gel in her lungs was finally put to some use.

Another beat, she risked the opening of her eyes, blood red and bright, a sliver.

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Light. Blinding, clean and white. She wanted to close them again but, that was cowardice and she knew it. Nothing born without some pain was worth keeping and she forced her eyes to open wider, to take in the light.

She could hear muffled sounds, mechanical sounds of antiquated medical equipment and the more hushed, gentle and deeper sounds of Earth Caste technician voices. With the speed of a glacier she moved one aching arm forwards and rapped gently on her glass enclosure as the blinding light resolved itself into people shapes. They jumped to her amusement she saw as she turned her head slowly to the side trying to ignore the light sensation as the anesthetics that had sat long dormant in her body finally found something to do.

The seals on the glass broke with a half hiss, half crack of still machinery coming away from rest, the fluids she had been suspended in drained away and left her resting on an old and faded polymer web mat. She swung her legs to the side and say upright, she felt weak, hideously weak, she always did. She could not afford to show it. She was a legend, a living legend. Unlike Aun'Va she had no problem with the public knowledge that she was a historic relic, it was good. She was a strong helping hand from the days of legend reaching forwards through time. Clarity was returning to her eyes now, some small measure of strength flowing back into her limbs. The figure before her was resolving itself into the robed figure that always greeted her when she awoke. She should feel honoured, she did not especially. He was another old legend like herself.

Grabbing a bucket from an Earth Cast orderly she emptied the oxy-gel from her lungs with as much dignity as could be mustered and took deep of the air of another century she should never have known.

"I have awoken and there is a war". She knew that this day would be recorded. It was always recorded. She had to play her part at all times. "I serve The Greater Good in all things."

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>>56573279
"There is always a war when we call upon you to serve." Replied the gaunt old figure standing before her. They had both played these parts many times down the eons, always it would go like this. It offered a chilly sort of comfort.

Shadowsun did not remember anymore how many times she had awoken. How many times she had lived and died and lived again. How many wars there had been. How much the Thief of Time had taken from her.

There would be a war. New combatants, new soldiers, new weapons, new horrors aplenty and that was for damn sure and always new faces and names and allies and friends as the Greater Good, the philosophy of unity and purpose was adopted across the stars under new names knowingly or unknowingly. It was the triumph and universally recognized truth of civility over barbarity realized time and again across the stars adopted by those that would survive and would survive and prosper because of it. She would sacrifice all she was or would ever be for it and do so gladly for such a truth, one death at a time. One day sacrificed at a time.

>Is it okay?

>>56573424
I like it.

>>56569377
There is a write-up on the Character page.

>>56571280
I think the number was estimated in a previous thread as very, very low. Most of the non-Silent King Necrons tend to be more independent because they either have their own agenda like Trazyn or are crazy like Xun'Bakyr (or are the only sane man in a dynasty of crazy like the Gore King).

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If anyone was wondering, the Eldrad drawing hasn't worked out. I failed to maintain proportions, and there wasn't much motivation left to do the background. The awkward pose didn't help either, and is something to fix if I redo it later. Pic related.

Also, has anyone done anything for the IG's Leman Russ tanks yet? I had some ideas for a Leman Russ writeup(and an incomplete drawing), canon history of the Leman Russ tank is pretty vague at the moment(at least according to the Lexicanum).

>>56573424
You might want to go over it again for some words that might be seen as an editing error, like the 'and would survive' that follows right after "that would survive." The writing itself is pretty fitting for Shadowsun's thought process.

>>56575520
For what it's worth I have seen worse.

>>56575520
I don't think we've done anything with the Russ. I thought the Russ was the tank said to have originally been a DaoT all-terrain vehicle/tractor, but I think that was actually the Rhino.

Does anyone have names for the two Legi and Draco stories? Currently they are unnamed on the 1d4chan page.

>>56577355
I think they both were I'm more sure that the Russ was.

>>56574394
Is there a developing priesthood of Ynnead if Yvraine isn't taking that role?

I have more writefagging planned if this thread survives until evening.

>>56560302
>>56561690
I could see a Tau falling to Chaos. It's vanishingly rare like Chaos Orks, but if Chaos can corrupt AI which don't have a warp presence at all, then Tau and any other sapient species should be able to fall too.

>>56579877
In-universe, no one knows what the fuck is up with aynnead. Farseers keep seeing the name come up the further they try to look into the future, but they also keep hitting the Shadow Point where they either can't see anything or the number of possible futures skyrockets exponentially.

Out of universe, Ynnead is probably the top bet for the identity of the Impossible Child. But since it's a post 999.M41 thing it's deliberately left open to interpretation.

>>56580272
Should we have one as a named character? Perhaps a pirate of the Eastern Fringe?

>>56582769
Is there a new priesthood of this new god?

>>56585590
Not really. Part of that is that instead of canon’s focus on cults and followings the AU has the Emperor both walking around and denying his divinity, while married to an actual embodied goddess. Similar are the Crones living in close communion with their gods, and the Tau’s cultural focus on their Ethereal philosopher kings instead of Ethereals being more reclusive and mind controlling, most of the worship in the galaxy revolves around actually present and involved supernatural figures. As such, Ynnead isn’t likely to get a following until it starts laying down feats of legendary status.

Isha likes in the ass

>>56575520
Dang, you're getting a lot better. I know you're not a fan of it, but I think the constant practice is improving your skills.

>>56587125
Oddly enough we've been over this. She does not.

Her preference is missionary.

>>56578423
Chase

Happy New Year

>>56584814
As the guy who proposed the reworking of Water Spider into something less canon violating, I can post that idea when I get to a proper computer.

>>56588720
Looking forward to it.

Bumpan

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It is a poorly known fact, even among members of the Tau Empire, that members of the Water Caste act as spies and saboteurs in addition to merchants and diplomats. Much of espionage is simply overhearing the right detail at the right time, as opposed to more flashy actions inspired by too many holovids about the Alpha Legion and Inquisition.

Por’mal’caor, better known as Water Spider, was a Por’El at approximately the time of the Tau Schism (M39). As she rose through the ranks, she earned the name Water Spider for her ability to ensnare her victims in her webs of deceit and make them dance like puppets on strings. Water Spider was particularly active in the days of the Schism, using her network of spies to root out separatists and silence dissenters, in the name of the Tau’va, of course. However, in contrast to most other members of the Water Caste, who understood that they were peacemakers and traders first and spies second, Water Spider reveled in the darker side of her craft. It was this taste for deception that drew her to the attention of the Chaos God Tzeentch and caused her fall.

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>>56592632
As with all followers of the trickster god, Water Spider’s body has gone through numerous mutations since pledging themselves to Tzeentch. In a sick joke by the Lord of Mutation themself, Water Spider’s body has changed to resemble her namesake, her hand and feet changed into cruel talons and four chitinous limbs bursting from her back. Her digestive system has also atrophied, leaving her unable to live off of normal sustenance. Instead, Water Spider feeds of the literal feelings of betrayal induced by her plots, liberally supplemented with the blood of her enemies.

Water Spider exists today in a lair of her own making, an outpocket of reality in the side of the Warp. From her lair invisible threads connect her to all of her agents on a myriad of distant worlds, whether human, Eldar, or Tau, fomenting dissent and turning brother against brother. Many of her catspaws, particularly Tau, are not even aware that they are being manipulated, believing they doing the work of the Tau’va while bringing doom to their countrymen. Even the forces of the other Chaos Gods are not immune to her workings when Tzeentch calls for her service. Yet for all Tzeentch’s blessings, Water Spider is not one for direct combat. Although she has mutated to the point where she could physically overpower a human, Space Marines, Sisters, Battlesuits, and even Eldar could make short work of her. Therefore she prefers to work at a distance, striking down her foes without even being on the same planet as them.

>Realize this may be a stupid idea.
>Unclear on the exact how she fell to Chaos
>In terms of strength, she is really more like a really, really functional Chaos Spawn.
>It also gives Tzeentch some more love and another champion than the Indigo Crow.
>Another weakness of hers is despite all her planning, she WILL stop to dick someone over even if it isn't in her best interests, because she literally needs it to live.

>>56577060
>>56587153
The kind words are appreciated. I might try making an Aspect Warrior and/or a Guardsmen sketch for scale alongside the Leman Russ tank. With more straight lines and simple geometry, it's been going a lot easier than Eldrad.

>>56577355
>>56579877
Apparently, the Rhino is based on the intact STC for the RH1N0, the DAoT equivalent of an army Jeep with guns and NBC protection for galactic exploration. Its history is very clear and detailed, especially in comparison with the Leman Russ.

OOU, the Internet consensus appears to be "Primarch Leman Russ discovered an incomplete STC for a tractor, the Mechanicus slapped on a turret and armor and called it a day." So the Imperial Guard ended up with a tank that has no space below its armor skirts for its suspension to work with, could significantly improve frontal protection by sloping the armor more, and a height profile that makes it an easy shot for anything from a Predator's lascannon(s) to a Tau railgun. In a world where the foes the Leman Russ is deployed against have gotten much nastier and the Imperium itself isn't so orthodox about weapons design, some minor upgrades over 10,000 years might be appropriate for the premier battle tank of the Imperial Guard. Although it's worth noting the vanilla Leman Russ has a "balletic" turning radius and fires accurately on the move, while still being dirt-cheap to manufacture, so there's that.

>>56592632
>>56592739
It definitely is a dark play on her name, but I would agree with you on at least creating a cursory explanation of what got Water Spider into the whole idea of Tzeentch worship (maybe she came into contact with Chaos followers while setting up a spy network?) after the first post. Also, the question of what Water Spider's actual powers are is unanswered. It could be standard sorcery befitting the kind of person who would (metaphorically) dick someone over from a dozen systems away, but it would give others more to work with as a character.

>>56595206
>Water Spider

The high concept was basically a Tzeentchian CIA/KGB spymaster. Less emphasis on the magic paradox side of Tzeentch (which the Aqua Albatross covers, but that doesn't mean there can't be more than one) and more into the plotting and backstabbery part of it. Something like engineering a civil war over an issue that doesn't really exist through misinformation to feed on the suffering (i.e., group A and B believe X. Both are told that the other really believes Y and are given doctored information to show it. A and B go to war and by the time the trick is apparent people are dead and the survivors are feuding).

Maybe corruption through brute force Chaos exposure by a trinket that "protects" the user that would appeal to a paranoid spymaster. There are such things scattered all over Tau space, but at the same time it's not clear how resistant Tau are to Warp "radiation" as opposed to being ignored by daemons.

Also, now that I think about it, such a spy ring would imply that the inner circle are also Chaos worshippers, which doesn't fit with the idea that at most Chaos corrupted Tau are rare and singletons.


Just wanted to throw the idea out there for potential expansion. To be honest if the idea of Chaos corrupted Tau isn't popular we could just trash it.

>>56592739
Does she have an overall goal she is working towards?

Also does she target othe Chaos?

bamp

>>56595776
It could be a trinket picked up through trade with Broken Saruthi.

And they can be influenced with constant exposure. Farsight and his sword.

>>56596145
I'd say probably. One of the cardinal rules of Chaos is they fight themselves just as much as everyone else, and even though the Ruinous Powers are trying to maintain a united front like in the vanilla Horus Heresy it's hard to hold that attitude for 10k years and even though they're less prone to it they might try to stab someone in the back if they think they can get away with it (usually Tzeentch or Slaanesh probably).

I mean, all four gods have endgames that are drastically opposed to one another. Slaanesh wants to kill the other three gods and usurp their power. Khorne wants to be recognized as unrivalled master of the galaxy. Nurgle wants to burn the whole place down and start over. And Tzeentch wants unlimited arcane power. The only commonality in that is they want the galaxy their way.

>>56599870
Is Farsight's sword even Chaos? I thought in canon it was implied to be either Eldar or Necron make (though here we've explicitly said it's Anaris because the Eldar got a good look at it to confirm).

>>56599914
Doesn't need to be Chaos to be warp and an ancient eldar blade made by one eldar god for another eldar god is definitely warpy as fuck.

>>56599904
What is the Soul Forge's goal?

>>56586733
The Lady in the Red Dress of the Blood Angels is it's herad.

>>56602131
Not getting McFucked by the other four. The Soul Forge in theory was a joint project between the Big Four to produce a shit-ton of weapons for their war against the Imperium. So they are trying to stay Undivided and not get conquered whenever one of the Big Four's sudden yet inevitable betrayal happens.

>>56602975
Does it have a champion?

>>56602571
>herad
*Herald

what could Legi and Draco be doing on Savlar?

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>>56607614
either they get there somehow on the chase, or they're getting involved in the Savlar scavenger hunt, possibly watching its conclusion.

Actually, watching the hunt's conclusion and reporting back would work well with the Fear and Loathing angle. Go to Savlar and make a report on the anomalies around the Savlar Order for the Ganymede installation's records.

>>56607892

And perhaps someone up to no good panics and attacks them? Though I suppose that might be a bit cliche.

Here's a quick question, should we have links to important short stories from the character pages on 1d4chan? Right now some of the best characterization for many individuals like the Emperor, Isha, and Malys comes from some of the stories there instead of codex entries.

Bump

>>56607892
A representative of the Inquisition being present I can understand. But why would Legi be there?

>>56610127
Or it could be covertly funded Mechanics nutters trying to disrupt the Neutronium supply to screw over Savlar.

>>56603808
If it does it should be Nemeroth.

He was attempting to take the forgeworld of Graia an have it become dedicated to the Soul Forge. With some real-space assets the Soul Forge might start to become real and genuine power in it's own right which would go some way towards the goal of not getting McFucked by the other 4.

For his efforts Nemeroth would have been buffed up to First Deamon-Prince of the Soul Forge.

Soul Forge does not work like the Big 4 in that it is not a singular entity. It is a mercenary company/merchant republic more than a god.

The shadowy, unnamed and half-seen figures that gather around what was once Vaul's Anvil are deamons of their own making. Very much self-made men. Nemeroth handing over to them Graia would have been the process by which Nemeroth would have rebuilt himself into a deamon-prince rather than having it be gift bestowed by a patron. Given that the Soul Forge isn't a god and such a buff would have made him stronger than the other shadowy lords of forge and smoke he would have effectively have been in charge and as close to an actual god as a mortal could get. Needless to say this would have earned him the ire of Be'Lakor.

As it is he has still earned some minor buffs from the other 4 over the years and some degree of favour from the Soul Forge for championing it's cause. Certainly enough to get resurrected and try again.

Of the man himself? He a bitter old bastard from the War of The Beast. That's about as far as anyone in his warband has ever been able to gather. Which Legion he was from is unknown. Given his drive towards perfection in all things and pride in being a self-made man it's a distinct possibility that he was one of Fulgrim Doe's soldiers once upon a time.

He has been spotted by Alpha Legion infiltrators in the ranks of the gathering 13th Black Crusade, his warband supplemented by clockwork monstrosities.

>>56613450
I presumably went like this.

Inquisition always sends a representative because this shit is important. It's usually not an actual inquisitor.

Dude who is meant to be doing it can't do it for some reason. Maybe he's ill, maybe he died.

Draco fucks around with the selection system, gets his name to the top of the list and then escapes from Ganymede to catch the outgoing courier ship headed in the direction he wants.

Legienstrausse is with him as his "personal assistant". A designation in the Inquisition that can mean anything from chef to hitman.

>>56615064
How would the Soul Forge get Vaul's anvil? You'd think that Slaanesh would be rather possessibe about all the shit s/he stole from the Eldar gods. Or maybe this is just another case of the gods doing whatever is nevessary to bring the material universe to heel.

>>56617370
Vaul was maimed and chained to the anvil a long time ago.

There is a chain affixed to the anvil that stops after a few links, the last link is slightly bent. It's very possible that the Soul Forge grew around it.

The Anvil is the only piece of Vaul left, mostly because it was no fun to eat. It is also rust resistant, static by it's very nature and inoffensive to anyone and anything and as such of little interest to any of the other gods. Indeed the things that the Soul Forge produces are of far more interest and as such they are glad they left it.

Mag'ladroth, should he ever find out about Vaul, will want that anvil for sentimental reasons. It's removal may/will be the death of the Soul Forge. Or at the very least it being usurped and brought up to hold some fucking standards by the Dragon.

>>56615064
Should he have the Oblitorator Virus?

>>56618732
What is the origin of the Oblitorator Virus?

>>56611458
I have no idea how to do links.

>>56621667
I can make the lengths, the question is just whether we should rather than whether we can. On the one hand it points out where important characters and plot points are fleshed out (which looking around the Internet seems to be an issue with readers because they don't seem to read the Notes page or the old threads). On the other hand it spoils some things in the stories (like the beginning of "Me Time").

>>56620076
In canon there is no real well-defined origin and everyone points fingers in different directions. The current candidates are either the Iron Warriors, because that is where the virus started and where the most Obliterators are found, the Death Guard, because of the similarities to Nurgle's Rot, or Fabius Bile or the Dark Mechanicus, because it sounds like something they'd do.

The only things we have about Obliterators here is Chaos relies on them more often because of the rarity of the Fallen, Slaughtermen are Crones infected with the Obliterator Virus, and Obliterator Cyb-Orks are a thing.

>>56622908
It could be that Magus Urtzi Malevolus, one of the founding members of the Dark Mechanicum, invented it.

He was one of the ones that protested against the union of Mars and Old Earth in the Unifica and left for the stars.

At some point he, like the other founding members, goes over the deep end.

Nobody is sure what happened to him although the Dark Mechanicum kept and coppied his notes. His last great work was experimenting on those with the Mutilator phenomenon and Nurgles Rot. It's possible that the Obliterator Virus is a hybrid of the two.

Thread archived

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/56468501/

Bump in passing

In vanilla ate there any named Savlars?

>>56623638
Could work.

It leaves some degree of mystery in it's origin whilst at the same time gives us someone to blame and adds another atrocity to the substantial list of the Dark Mechanicum.

It also has the implication that the Virus is not a finished product and that the magus responsible for it died in antiquity. Nemeroth hopes to finish his work and ride the virus to something not unakin to godhood.

>>56572716
>dat pic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzLeQs6jZEM

Also I'm guessing in this AU Tau are still not pretty. Or are they?

How close is Jaq Draco with the Harlequins?

>>56632175
Savlar in vanilla is a very different place than here. Savlar in vanilla is a penal colony where the grimdarkest aspects of the Imperium are on full display. Savlar here is a shithole, but not a "penal colony where un-servitorized prisoners are worked to death" shithole.

There are three named Savlar per Lexicanum, but of the three one is possibly a traitor and all three are distinctly penal colony flavored.

>>56634939
I think it varies. Tau are said to have their hair mostly originating from the crown of their scalp. Shadowsun probably wears her hair like that because it's a soldier haircut and it keeps it easily managable and out of the way (normally braids or ponytails like that are bad for soldiers, but most Tau wear helmets or are in battlesuits and having hair this way allows easy access to the port to link with the battlesuit).

>>56617519
>>56615064
Given that Vaul was the primary god of the Demiurg I can all to easily see them declaring a Holy War on Nemeroth. Nemeroth in particular.

He's trying to desecrate the corpse of their god.

Demiurg are quick to laugh and slow to anger. But when they anger it is terrifying. When they found out what Titus had seen and heard on the forgeworld the radio channels were jammed with the unutterable words that can be spoken only in hate.

They are still out in the deeps, roaring into the blackness. In uninhabited systems hammers sing and space rocks are mined as ship battle plate and weapons are forged.

>>56638612
Shadowsun would also be wearing a hairstyle centuries out of date.

Bump.

>>56636434
Nobody knows. He doesn't know. How would you judge such a thing? To he is the only human on record to take part in even minor performances.

On human records at least. Harlequins maintain that outsiders have in antiquity been invited.

He has also been invited into the Black Library. He wasn't normal before he went in there and he is like he is now when he came out.

Sometimes they turn up to help him slightly more than blind chance would suggest and sometimes he, in his escapades, finds himself drawn into courses of action that brings him to their aid. He doesn't question it anymore, it just is.

>>56638817
I keep thinking of Shadowsun dealing with the fashion trends and tastes of modern Tau like Dr. Evil finding out his "hole in the ozone layer" and "shame the royal family" plots have already been done.

>>56642114
It is also that she is playing the part. She is Tau King Arthur. A holy warrior who awakens in their darkest hours. She has an "accent" due to her older speech patterns and often uses words that have fallen oug of common usage.

Oddly with all that dressing 200+ years out of style actually looks more normal or at least adds no additional abnormality.

Bumpity bump.

>>56642658
Might be because she's a professional soldier. Even compared to other Fire Caste members. Tends to dress spartan, and if you don't dress fancy it's hard for your clothes to be out of date in the first place.

>>56615064
What/Who should be the shadowy lords of the Soul Forge be?

>>56648878
Shadowy.

>>56649080
Oh, certainly. What else?

>>56649118
Prominent members of the Dark Mechanicum who made cruel shit for the love of making cruel shit.

Basically the mummies from Requiem.

>>56556915
>>56556787
How widespread are the Slaugth?

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>>56650755
That could work.

Didn't we state that the Soul Forge was only set up in the Great Crusade / WoTB era at some point?

Kelbor-Hal in Vanilla was the Fabricator-General of Mars at that time in vanilla and he fell to Chaos in the HH. In this Timeline he could have been driven out of Mars in the WoTB or direct aftermath by the purges of Zagreus Kane. It was never revealed to the wider Imperium that Kelbor-Hal had fallen to darkness, they just believed that he was deposed for gross incompetence.

At the moment Kelbor-Hal is the spokes person for the Soul Forge and the nearest thing it has to a leader, a position he will lose with the rise of Nemeroth. He will not gladly be deposed again.

>>56602571
>The Lady in the Red Dress

[desire_to_know_more_intensifies]

>>56651459
Very few and far between. The Imperium tried to hunt them all down at Rangda, and the ones that survived did so by being beneath notice. In many sectors it's not even a well known fact that the Slaugth survived the Rangdan Xenocides, most assuming they are just an extinct species. The Slaugth tend to flock to areas where they can exploit things, like the Calixis sector where there is a massive separatist movement going on.

>>56653619
Check Cyrene Valanthion on the Notes page.

>>56655009
>Cyrene Valanthion on the Notes

We need more of this ghost story shit.

>>56655009
How easily can they body snatch people?

>>56652461
What is going on in the pic?

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>>56657273
Dracula, king of a nation of vampires in hell, and Nero, his adopted son(?) that looks like Dr. Frank n' Furter, are torturing a mad scientist mummy by nailing his mask to his head, and also lecturing him about how gleeful, campy, operatic evil is the best kind of evil.

>>56656878
I would say they probably stick a Slaugth worm or bioconstruct in the ear and go full Yeerk. In canon they couldn't tell who was compromised and who wasn't after the Rangdian Xenocides, and the fact that the Emperor was there (and one of the lost primarchs may or may not have been among the compromised) suggests that psykers couldn't pick it up. You'd think they could, though, because they could pick up similar, less overt infestation by the Psychneuin.

On the other hand, the Emperor could have just not cared and implemented a general purge because he didn't have the time to check, but that would mean wasting thousands of Space Marines which doesn't seem to be vanilla!Emperor's M.O. Though more out of character shit has come out of Black Library.

>>56652461
Can someone remind me what the soul forge is in canon?

>>56658314
It is an unclaimed workshop in The Realm of Chaos.

It makes Soul Grinders and shit by upgrading a deamon into a deamon-engine. This makes them more devastating and capable of staying in real space longer.

In return they must defend the Soul Forge should it ever be attacked, even so far as to turn on their creators.

Is anyone doing anything with the other High Lords?

>>56657507
Thank you. But whilst that does answer my question it raises many, many others.

>>56662635
Series is Requiem Vampire Knight. Don't try to understand it, it just gets more confusing from there.

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Bump.

>>56667618
That was supposed to be uploaded with the writeup, which is still incomplete. Should be done with most of it by tomorrow.

>>56667618
>>56667662

Nice, but is it really supposed to be called the Leman Rust instead of the Leman Russ?

What sort of a person the Grand Headmaster of Rhetor Imperia and Schola Progenium be?

>>56667618
Holy fuck! Slopped armor!

>>56660216
Which ones are still left to do?