>>59185788

It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the might of His will, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is as near as death as any man has right to be and then some, his body writhing invisibly with power from the Silver Age of Technology as it ever so slowly recovers from the grievous blow dealt to him by his traitorous son. He is the Lord of the Imperium for whom a million times a million soldiers fight and die, knowing He will soon lead them once more.

Yet even in his horrendous state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. For all the multitudes of the alien, the mutant, and the heretic, they stand as the indomitable bulwark of Mankind - battered, beaten, but unbroken.

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>>59185979
To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the hardiest and most resolute regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Remember the power of technology and science, for though so much has been forgotten, yet more shall be learned and re-learned. Hold close to your heart the promise of progress and understanding, for in the twinkling dawn of the future there is still hope. There is no true peace amongst the stars, yet it is not all carnage and slaughter. Thirsting gods laugh as they send their minions to work evil, but their laughter is drowned out by the defiant battle cry of the loyal - for the Emperor! His Will be done!

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>>59185979
>>59186003
FUGG YES

What is the Imperium's stance on xenos? For that matter, how has general xenos progress been modified by the survival of the Emperor?

And on the subject of the Emperor.

>John Alvok, final recording on Terra.
>To Meredith, my lovely wife, so vast a distance away.
>I saw him today. After so many years of waiting.
>The Master of Mankind, our most glorious Emperor of Man.
>Though he once willed it not, I believe in his godhood.
>Today, I have been vindicated.
>Such a man. Tall, towering over the procession. His face carved from perfection, set in a strong yet calm visage, his eyes scanning over us pilgrims.
>Do you know the most amazing thing, Meredith? He spoke. Our immortal Emperor spoke to us.
>I am truly at peace now. Fifteen years awaiting and every instant was worth it, for the thirty seconds I could lay eyes upon him.
>His words? "Be at peace."

>>59186115
Good question!
I would imagine that the rampant xenocidalism isn't adopted, but let's not go for the easy cop-out of taking the middle between the two extremes at all times. I'm leaning towards a TTSverse Emperor's opinion of "If we can keep them under control there's no need to murder all of them"-style policy, but that's just my two cents
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As for the general survival of the Emperor and the effect of that on Xenos; I'd love to imagine that he orders his Custodes to stand down that one time the Eldar tried to talk to him by breaking into his throne room. I'd assume that alliances of convenience would be more common, perhaps even a truce, especially if the whole Dark/Craftworld divide is made clear to the Imperium| (provided that happens).

Orks... Since fewer primarchs turned, I'd say the War of the Beast got dealt with significantly better, and with less cost to the IoM.

On that topic; how would the Emperor's still being sapient affect the Warp, as well as the 'miracles' of the Adeptas Sororitas? Hell, is the Ecclesiarchy even around?

Oh, and as important - which Primarchs that fell in vanilla stayed loyal here? How do their Legions respond? Are the Legions still broken up?

Writefaggotry!
Sergeant Iastus - no, Lieutenant Iastus, he corrected himself - of the Hades Hive XVIth Militia Platoon surveyed the men and women under his command. Civvies, mostly, though a couple Arbites were mixed in - he’d put those to work as sargeants. A lot of his troopers looked hungry. Most looked tired. All were clearly afraid. Iastus shared that sentiment; he’d fought the Orks before, and it wasn’t something he enjoyed. He winced and reflexively ran his finger over the scar on his leg left there by one of the brutes.
Still, the Hive needed its defenders; the XVIth would have to do. He clutched the Imperial Aquila hanging around his neck, thinking of his home, his wife, and his son.
“Men,” he said, his voice shaky, “on this day, the world of Armageddon stands in the dark of night. Ghazghkull Thraka has returned to plague this noble world once again, and his armies are banging on the gates as we speak.” Several of his troopers went a couple shades paler as he spoke. “Today, the Emperor calls upon you to fight, and perhaps die, for the Imperium.” His voice grew quieter; he’d never been the best at inspiring speeches, and it was showing. He frantically cast around for anything to say that might inspire the civilians under his command to hold the line when the time came. His eye fell on a little girl, holding her mother’s hand, standing next to the parade square at which the XVIth had assembled.
“You there, little one,” he said softly, his vox-amplifier ensuring everyone could hear him. “Please, join me.”

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>>59186534
Looking at her mother, then back at him, the little girl trotted up to the stage, nervously. He noticed she kept glancing into the masses of troops on the field.
“What is your name, little one?” Iastus rested a hand on her shoulder comfortingly. The girl looked down at her shoes as she muttered her response.
“R-Rasa, sir. Rasa Halen.” At once, her furtive looks at the troops made sense.
“Trooper Halen! Step forward.” Iastus barked an order in his stern Sergeant voice. Speeches weren’t his forte, but orders... orders he could do.
A wiry man dressed in the uniform of the Arbites nervously stepped forward. “I-I’m sorry, sir, I told her to stay home today but-”
“Trooper Halen! This is your daughter, correct?” The man stood shaking in his boots, unsure as to where this was going
“Y-yes, sir.”
Iastus put on a friendly smile. He had no idea where he was going with this, but for once, his tongue seemed to have found him. He clutched his Aquila a little tighter and patted Rasa’s head.
“She’s got guts to come here today. Got that from her dad, for sure.” He turned his gaze towards the assembled Hive Militia platoon.
“Men! Before you, you see the daughter of one of your own. You might have come to know Trooper Halen during our training together, or perhaps in the cafetarium. Perhaps you knew him from before this mess, perhaps this is the first time you’ve heard his name. It matters not. He comes from our Hive, from our planet - he’s one of ours!” His voice grew steady, taking on volume as Iastus’ confidence grew.
“Trooper Halen! Would you let any green-skinned barbarian near little Rasa?”
The soldier, who had relaxed a little now the Lieutenant’s attention was no longer on him, snapped back into attention. “Never, sir! They’d have to go through me!”

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>>59186868
“Excellent. I would expect nothing less. Those Orks out there, though, seem eager to spill the blood of your daughter and your wife. Are you going to let that happen?”
Trooper Halen’s earlier fear seemed to ebb away as righteous anger asserted itself. “Frak that, boss! I’ll fight ‘em all with my bare hands if I need to - they ain’t gettin’ Rasa and Eleanne!” Some troopers cheered at this, though it quickly died down.
“Men, before you you see Trooper Halen - not one of the Emperor’s Avenging Angels, not one of his fine Guardsmen, nor a PDF soldier. Trooper Halen is just a citizen of the Imperium, one amongst trillions. Yet, he is so much more than that. Through him, and all others like him, the Imperium is made manifest! Through him, and those like him, the tides of treason and bloodshed have been turned back time and time again! Together with him, we shall turn it back once more! These savages come to butcher our friends, our sons, our daughters - will we let them?”
“NO!” A resounding echo resonated through the square. The cheers returned, stronger this time.
“Men - nay, soldiers, HEROES of the Imperium! Today, we stand against carnage! We stand against the darkness, bearing the light that our Emperor has spread through the galaxy since He has led Humanity to claim its destiny! ‘Tis true, night has fallen on Armageddon, but every night must give way to dawn - today, WE end the night! TODAY, MEN, WE ARE THE DAWN, AND THESE FOUL SAVAGES SHALL KNOW IT!”
Like a volcanic eruption to rival the fiercest volcano on Nocturne, defiant cheers erupted from the men and women of the XVIth. Shouts of “We are the dawn!” “They ain’t getting my son!” and “His Will Be Done!” filled the air. Little Rana, confused and scared by all the shouting, began to cry and hugged her dad, still standing out of rank. Iastus patted her on the back.
“It will be alright, little one. Dawn has broken today.”

>>59186270
Horus Stayed, Horus is the goodest boi

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How about the Tau? Do they just get roflstomped during the Damocles Gulf Crusade, or is some sort of agreement reached? Are the Farsight Enclaves still a thing?
Tyranids! Does Big E have an answer for them? Can the IoM offer a better response due to being less of an administrative clusterfuck? Does Kryptman still Exterminatus a fire trench?
Necrons? Does Emps think they're Men of Iron but worse, or is something else going on?
I'm signing off for tonight, my brain is fried. I do hope we can turn this into something awesome, though, /tg/. Have some shitty photoshop of Emps being alive.

>>59187167
That'd be surprisingly easy to write in, actually - he just doesn't get fucked over by the evil demonsword of chaoticness.
Who's the Arch-Traitor then? Who does he sway to his side?
I think Perturabo could be awesome as the new Heresiarch. An embittered, spiteful man whose rivalry with Dorn drove him over the brink, maybe?

>>59187266
Lorgar is the arch heretic.
I mean, Big E tells him to stop sucking his cock, Lorgar gets sad, decides to find another cock to suck. That's basically bound to happen with or without chaos.

>>59187469
Makes sense. Who's gonna stick with him?

>>59187491
Magnus at least, probably. Sure, he was tricked, but it's that or his Legion all becomes a bunch of mewling warp-fuckadoo creatures.

I cannot imagine a universe where the Emperor of Man lives that isn't decidedly more peaceful among races. I imagine a strained or better alliance with the Aeldari and T'au against Chaos/Necrons/Orks/Tyranids, forming sort of a coalition of races.

But I also don't know much about 40k Lore outside of the Ork stuff.

>>59187618
I mean, decidedly more peaceful, sure, but that's not difficult. Big E already had a policy of "suffer not the alien" during the Great Crusade IIRC.

>>59187653
That's surprising, I've always had an abstract thought of the Emperor as being more "progressive" than IoM, as a sort of irony thing, and that everything they're about is sort of the backwards of what he wants. I should uh, read the lore outside of 1d4chan.

>>59187695
Yeah, absolutely, the Emperor was infinitely better than the current-day IoM, but that's partially because the current state of the Imperium would put any dictator in our history to deep and everlasting shame. Emps ment well, but he could be ruthless when he needed to - and in a galactic conquest, ruthlesness is measured in the lives of species, not individuals.

>>59187491
>>59187491
Mortarion, Angron, Perturabo, Conrad Kurze.
Either Fulgrim or Alpharius, but probably Fulgrim, since he got daemon sword'ed, while Alpharius was convinced.
So, Lorgar, Fulgrim, Angron, Perturabo, Mortarion and Kurze. Basically team autismo.
Since this version of 40k seems a bit less grimdark, I figure Magnus would be a loyalist. Big E sends the message to Horus that Magnus broke the edict, Horus sends a message to Magnus telling him that he fucked up and that he should go to the Imperial palace. Magnus complies, so the wolves don't get involved at all in the situation.
Arriving on Terra, the Emperor tells Magnus that he fucked up badly and ruined everything for everyone, but he had seen the future and knew the past and was aware that Magnus had been tricked, so He decides to forgive Magnus, but also to forbid him to use his powers until He decides that Magnus has done enough to redeem himself.
However, after the Heresy, with Big E gets put in the Golden Throne to heal before he can tell Magnus he has redeemed himself in the battle of Terra. So Magnus has waited for ten thousand years for his Father's return, never once breaking the edict again, no matter the cost to him or his forces. No matter the temptation or the constant voices of the chaos gods in his head. Because he now believed more than ever that the man in the throne was his father and he would not disappoint Him again.

>>59187469
>>59187491

Lorgar is heretic mastermind.
Perty leaves.
Morty leaves.
Angron leaves/is killed.
Curze is redeemed by finally getting Night Haunter under control.
Fulgrim is a good boy.
Horus is the goodest boy..
Swagnus is killed by Russ.

>>59188028
Holy fucking shit yes I love this Magnus arc. I'm kinda leaning to Fulgrim being a good boy alongside Horus, the Goodest Boy (especially because then we can tell HIGH ADVENTURE stories of Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus kicking ass and taking names during The Heresy/The War of the Beast)
To counterbalance, maybe Alpharius actually falls to Chaos, as opposed to the long-term plan to defeat the Chaos Gods? That plan seems unnecessarry here anyway, since the Heresy didn't fuck up as much as it did in actual 40k. The schemery and plotting and infiltrating could totally be recast in a Tzeentchian light, I'd say?

Oh! What happens to Sanguinius? Since the Emperor didn't get fucked up as bad as in original, I'd wager Angelboi put in some serious extra effort.

Also, petition to make this the anthem of MidHammer IoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMV9B3vq1A

>>59188186
I'm not sure if Curze could be redeemed. Some things are just so grimdark you can't solve them..

By the way, how do you guys envision the general tone of this concept?
I'd lean to Grimbright; Barring the Emperor and the Primarchs, plus maybe exceptional people, a single individual is unlikely to alter the course of history, being but a single drop on the platter of history. Yet together, the people of the Imperium stand, each doing their part, being their own drop, pooling their might into an unstoppable tide that washes away the darkness. Many die, and they shall sadly not be remembered, but their deeds shall forever be honoured.

>>59188341
IDK, I just kinda like Kurze's arc. Add Kurze and Alpharius then.

Big A falls to Chaos, pretends to be a loyalist while constantly planting sleeper Alpha Legion cells throughout the empire and just generally being darstadly.

Steers WAAAGGHS toward critical locations, crashing DAoT space hulks into T'au worlds for them to reverse engineer.

>>59188286
Sangiunus lives, but is constantly combating the red thirst. Still, without his death it's more manageable.

Also, do the space legions get broken up by papa Smurf anymore?

>>59188504
Ohh, I like it.
Also
>dastardly
Does this mean Alpharius has a mustache he twirls whenever things go JUST AS PLANNED?

this thread has potential.
>>59188286
I'd say honestly since horus didn't murderize him hes probably not dead since he is kinda one of the better fighters even amongst the primarchs, and i honestly doubt lorgar is good enough to actually put him down, fuck him up maybe but probably not kill him dead.

>>59188504
Hey bud, this is a group effort, eh? If you really want Kurze in with the loyalists, I'm sure we can make that work! Shouldn't just be OP or one Anon deciding everything ^^

assuming the Emperor ordered to created the inquisition with his dying words (I might be getting this wrong) how does that change in this universe? does the I exist? What about the Ordo Xenos?

And the Dark Angels, does this big secret exist in this story?

>>59188573
Ohh, how about this?

Known by his honorific, "The Emperor's Fury", Sanguinius travels the length and breadth of the Imperium, enacting His will. Despite his title, most of his duties are explicitly non-violent in nature; resolving diplomatic crises that could see entire sectors embroiled in civil war or heretical uprisings, planning the overall strategy of a Crusade, or spreading the word of the Emperor to worlds led astray. Few know why the Primarch of the Blood Angels, one of the finest warriors in the galaxy, avoids conflict so. Some theorize he has been horribly injured by Lorgar during his duel with the Arch-Traitor, no longer able to lift a blade, but those who have seen the Primarch's graceful movements know this to be false. Only the most trusted of Sanguinius' inner circle know the truth of the matter: the Primarch is constantly battling an affliction known as the Red Thirst, a berserker rage that leaves him in a frenzy if it is unleashed. Rare are the times when the Angel of Baal risks entering combat, and then only in the darkest of hours. He deploys alone, with long-ranged fire support, to avoid collateral damage, and once fighting, does not stop until the last foe has been butchered.

>>59188648
I think the Inquisition was Malcador's work. I'd say they're less paranoid than their original counterparts?

DA stuff should definitely still be a thing IMO. Maybe triggering that was Alpharius' first act during the Heresy?

>>59188726
Jesus, that would be terrifying. Just this massive vampire demigod moving inextricably towards you, ready to go full 'World of Cardboard' on your ass

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>>59185788

The Thousand Sons are my favorite legio, but I have to add to this thread that, if only he hadnt fucked up / fallen, not even one quarter of the damage would have happened.

>>59188794
Why'd you think they gave him that title? "The Emperor's Make-Them-Shit-Their-Pants'er" didn't have the same ring to it.

>>59188796
Fair, the Webway would still be intact.
How's that thing doing in our setting, anyway?

>>59188525
I'd imagine that Horus and the Emps would give Guilliman a big "Lmao no" on that account.

>>59188842
Well my idea was that magnus still fucked up, but was forgiven.
With Big E on life support while he heals, it's still broken, but isn't a contant, grim reminder of what happens if Big E croaks, but rather a symbol of hope of what will happen when he comes back.

>>59188906
If he would even bother suggesting it. If the hwresy wasn't as destructive, he may not have found it to be necessary.

>>59188726
A brilliant, powerful, and attractive diplomat with unhindered loyalty. The imperium sorely needs that.

>>59188726
How would Sanguinius not being dead affect the BA?

>>59189430
I think the black rage wouldn't exist, but the red thrist still would.

>>59189430
First, I believe Dante wouldn't suffer half as much, since the "golden warrior" Sanguinius talked about is probably himself, if the prophecy even exists in this version of the story.
Another thing is the black rage wouldn't exist, since the psychic imprint of Sanguinius wouldn't have gotten beaten half to death.
Red thirst would still be a thing, but it wouldn't lead to assholes like the flesh tearers.
Also, no Sanguinalia, so the average imperial worker gets worked to death even on space christmas.
Baal would probably not have been fucked up so badly either so there's that.

>>59188585
Dornian Curze is best Curze

>>59185788
>Would this setting lend itself to HIGH ADVENTURE?
No. No it would not. The Emperor was a megalomaniac who long ago concluded that "feeding his ego" was a synonym for "doing what's best for mankind", and went out of his way to destroy any alternatives for mankind, no matter how benign, purely because they were alternatives to him (Interex, Diasporex, etc.). Every fundamental structural flaw undermining the Imperium was there under him, the only thing that really changed in his absence was additional dogmatic fanaticism.

Now, since Chaos is that much weaker here, non-Chaotic internal opposition to the Imperium becomes that much more viable...

>>59185788
In this setting, how would you address the whole marines going the way of the thunder warriors issue? Would they keep developing newer batches of marines, to the point where even Primaris marines are an ancient relic of he past? Or are the marines wiped out and something else has taken their place?

Without Horus turning to chaos, how many of the other primarchs would have actually fallen? I can see some like Morty, Kurze and perturabo going renegade, but that doesn’t mean they have to turn to chaos. Fulgrim and alpharius have no reason to turn without Horus convincing them, while Magnus doesn’t get forced into it without Horus changing the order. That leaves only angron and Lorgar as the obvious suspects.

>>59188906
Don't see why. Even without a massive heresy, chapters still make sense in an Imperium out of conquest mode. Breaking up the legions would likely be a more gradual and less definitive process, but it would still probably happen.

>>59190816
>ow, since Chaos is that much weaker here, non-Chaotic internal opposition to the Imperium becomes that much more viable...
How do you get a viable non chaotic opposition that doesn't get a primarch dropped on top of it? Or do you actually mean primarchs going their own way?

>>59187167
>>59187469
>>59188028
>>59188186
>>59188286
>>59188504
>>59188726
>>59193310
So from what I've gathered here:

Lion El'Johnson:
Loyalist.
What's his function? If we go with the suggestion that Alpharius fucked his Legion over and caused the split, he might devote himself to counter-intelligence ops, stopping revolts, rooting out turncloaks, etc.

Fulgrim:
Loyal (Good Boy)
With the obvious candidate for Propaganda Minister leading the Heresy, I'd say Fulgrim could do that job? Keeping the masses loyal through flawless works of Imperial art, spreading the Imperial Truth (or maybe something halfway between the Imperial Truth and worship of Big E) to new worlds, etc.

Perturabo:
Traitor.
Unchanged?

Jagathai Khan:
Loyal.
Maybe the Emperor's Messenger? While Big E can of course psyker a messenger to everyone in the galaxy, if he's still capable of speech that might be a less painful alternative. Ferrying rapidly back and forth between Terra, as well as protecting messengers and shipping lanse and acting as rapid response troops, the White Scars are a welcome sight throughout the Imperium.

I'll do the rest of the Primarchs when I get back, gotta go now.

>>59187695
It's progressive but not necessarily in the warm and friendly sort of way. It's more progressive in a philosopher-tyrant kind of way. Put simply: Lorgar had his city razed to the ground after people were evacuated for making a space-mecca for the emperor. The IoM would just nuke the city from orbit and viciously hunt down anyone who might have survived.

I suppose you can draw ideas from big E with the Rogue Trader deeds. I doubt the IoM would ever have created Rogue Traders if not for Big E's precedence. So it demonstrates he is practical about it, yet the conduct of the Great Crusade also suggests he is happier with extinguishing all alien species. Craftworld Eldar sometimes get a pass just because they are more trouble to kill than to cooperate with.

>>59188028
I tended to see Magnus and Russ as a zero sum situation. If Nikea ruled for Magnus then Russ will go Chaos (hatred of Psykers didn't stop Mortarion). If Nikaea ruled for Russ then Magnus will go traitor. I don't know if the two of them can fit in a single faction. Your idea has merits for how but I could see Russ being furious that Horus is being soft and choosing to unilaterally go and deal with the threat. If Horus messages big E and big E tells russ to shut the fuck up and heel boy then I can see why Russ doesn't pull a burning.

As a whole remember you need one primarch to each of the Chaos Gods. So Fulgrim being goodboy means someone has to go to Slaanesh instead. The only alternative I can see for Slaanesh is either Sanguiny (from the Rowboat heresy) or Jaghatai (gotta-go-fast, the epicureanism in his background culture, and the unilateralism of the white scars - from going out into the far unknown doing their own thing for the crusade is a short jump to doing their own thing for themselves).

>>59194662

Oh, and that also means Tzeentch needs someone. That seems obvious with the Alpha Legion and Alpharius. Honestly that fits remarkably well and outside of being psykers-par-none Thousand Sons fit Tzeentch a lot less than Alpha "Scheming, planning, backstabbing, plans within plans" Legion. My proposal would be White Scars for Slaanesh and Alpha Legion for Tezentch, Nurgle is same, Khorne is same, Iron Warriors are unaligned more traitor than chaos, and Word Bearers are undivided pro-Chaos.

You can also perhaps reverse what happened in 40k. Instead of isolated loyalists from traitor legions forming the Grey Knights, have isolated traitors from loyalist legions form either an anti-Grey Knights or just a new sub-legion/mini-legion.

One consideration if you want midhammer is that the emperor is not a lifeless corpse but is still 'locked' to the throne or the general throne area. This may be physical but not to the point of being an emaciated broken corpse, or mental in that he can't leave the throne room/area near the webway portal or demons pour through. He's having to concentrate on the Astronomicon, holding the webway portal up, ect. Thus he is more able to interact and speak to his sons but is unable to participate in the great crusade.

What if, in order to introduce some conflict, Guilliman, Perturabo and (maybe) Sanguinus formed Imperium Secundus as a more progressive alternative to the emperor, maybe allied with the Tau. There was never a civil war because everyone knows that if they go to war the loses would be staggering, but there is kind of an uneven truce.

Holy shit this thread is brilliant. We’ve seen Grimdark and Noblebright and them Nobledark... you fuckers just invented Grimbright.

Everyone’s still cynical and awful.

But the galaxy is going okay, looking forward to better days.

>>59185788

Honestly, I'd say it might actually be even worse. Consider that the Emperor's trust in his Primarchs, and the Primarch's trust in each other and the Emperor is shattered. Why would the Emperor allow things to go so awry if he was supposedly planning long-term for the Primarchs? Unless, of course, they were considered a disposable tool and the long-term wasn't something the Emperor was planning for them.

Such a gulf of trust might lead to a second secession or civil-war, and leaving humanity fewer defenses, or a less unified structure at best. With the Emperor possibly still alive, there's little room for the Ecclesiarical Cult to grow, which cements the Imperium's unity even if it's also extremely zealous and potentially destructive or backward. With little unifying force and fervor, it's the Old Night all over again, with every horror that came with it allowed to return. It's somehow a WORSE scenario than 40k.

>>59194662
> I tended to see Magnus and Russ as a zero sum situation. If Nikea ruled for Magnus then Russ will go Chaos (hatred of Psykers didn't stop Mortarion). If Nikaea ruled for Russ then Magnus will go traitor. I don't know if the two of them can fit in a single faction

Is it too late to make Russ a traitor? Need to have SOME balance, and Chaos Vikings were fun in Fantasy.

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>>59186534
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>>59186884
Thanks a lot, now it’s raining for some reason.
nice work [/spoiler{

>>59193730
> How do you get a viable non chaotic opposition that doesn't get a primarch dropped on top of it?

A Culture GOU enters through the Eye of Terror.

>>59195245
We could have Russ go traitor, but which god? Slaanesh, maybe, focus on their whole 'feasting' thing + the old Viking habit of plundering all the booty they see?

>>59195169
Yeah, pretty much, see >>59188481, seems to be the route we're taking.

>>59194780
We could also make a Second Founding Chapter be the champions of Slaanesh? Just spitballing here.

>>59194374
Aight, let’s make a note that we might make Jagathai Slaaneshi.

Leman Russ
Traitor - Slaanesh?
We could go down the path of feasting and plundering; maybe he nicks a Slaaneshi artifact somewhere. Imagine what happened to Fulgrim, except with more Spessh Vikings looting everything they see.

Dorn
Loyalist
Probably still the Emperor's Praetor and Architect. Anyone got fun ideas for the boys in yellow? Maybe he reigns in the Black Templars a bit once they become a thing.

Curze
Traitor
Unchanged? Any suggestions for our terror tactics lad?

Sanguinius
Loyalist/Secessionist?
The Emperor’s Fury, see >>59188726. We could also go down the path of an Imperium Secundus, but I like the idea of a Sanguinius that goes around being diplomatic until all seems lost, at which point he just goes full R E D T H I R S T mode and fucks up entire armies by himself.

Ferrus Manus
Loyalist
Goes on bro-for-life HIGH ADVENTURE trips with Fulgrim, the Good Boy. He’d probably be the Emperor’s Artificer, innovating a lot in the department of things that help you stop other creatures from breathing. He might have good ties to the AdMech, with the living metal on his hands being seen as a blessing from the Omnissiah?

Angron
Traitor - Khorne
Unchanged? Maybe we could do something fun with the Butcher’s Nails.

Guilliman
Loyalist/Secessionist?
If we’re going with an Imperium Secundus, I’d like to avoid a carbon copy of the Dornian Heresy one, so let’s keep that in mind. If he’s loyalist, his administrative skills would definitely mean he’d have a role in governance and administration at the highest level.

Mortarian
Traitor - Nurgle
Any ideas? Don’t have much.

Magnus
Loyalist
Takes over part of Big E’s burden as to the Astronomicon from time to time. If he’s not doing that, he’s probably overseeing the Scholastica, the Black Ships, and hunting down rogue Psykers. I could see him spearheading educational campaigns too, especially about psykers.

>>59194848
Oh right, Perturabo might also be Secessionist, if we roll with that.

>>59195689
Horus
Loyalist
The Goodest Boy. Probably still the Warmaster, conquering new worlds for the Imperium. Does he retain his shtick of making sure all worlds he conquers are fully integrated, or does he leave that to Guilliman (if Papa Smurf doesn’t fuck off to do his own thing) or Vulkan? I’d love to see him plan against the Tyranids at some point.

Lorgar
Traitor - Chaos Undivided.
Arch-Traitor. What does he do different form Horus as Heresiarch?

Vulkan
Loyalist
With the Salamanders’ thing for helping out civilians, I could see Vulkan acting as a pacifier of worlds. Whereas Sanguinius mostly deals with the diplomatic side of things, keeping powerful individuals loyal, Vulkan would go out to the masses and rouse their support for the Imperium. Bro of everyone.

Corvus Corax
Loyalist
With the Emperor’s Executioner and Terror Weapon both falling to Chaos, Corax might take over both roles, becoming the dagger in the dark that removes those Sanguinius cannot placate and terrifying into submission those Vulkan cannot convince. Obviously doesn’t take it to Curze’s extreme, though. Probably causes a lot fewer body parts of loved ones to be found in mailboxes.


Alpharius & Omegon
Traitor - Tzeentch (Masquerading as Loyalist?)
The mustache-twirling, cat-petting “I’ve been expecting you”-ing villains of 40k. Guide WAAAAAGHS! to poorly defended yet important worlds, triggering uprisings in previously thoroughly loyal sectors, generally creating copious amounts of JUST AS PLANNED.
May or may not have triggered the Dark Angels’ schism.
Did they have a hand in the creation of the Tau as a ~~threat~~ annoyance to the IoM?

Final Score:
Loyalist:
6/8
Traitor:
4/5
Secessionist:
3/0

What do you think, folks? Can we work with this? Are we going with an Imperium Secundus, or not?

Oh, and I've already archived this thread, but should we make a MidHammer 1d4Chan page? Or do we want to wait with that until we have more lore/writefaggotry to do that?

Is there a collection of stories about the emperors civil interactions with xenos?

>>59195946
Canon ones? Not sure.

>>59195746
I'm liking the idea of a Tzeentch corrupted Alpharius

More writefaggotry!

“The Emperor’s Fury? Aye, I’ve seen him fight.
Why are you staring at me like that? Close your mouth, boy, or your jaw’s gonna fall off. ‘Awesome’? Son, it was terrifying.
Sure, he might not seem that scary - imposing, certainly, he’s one of the Emperor’s children, after all - but scary? Nah, surely not, he’s the Emperor’s foremost diplomat. He hardly ever deals with combat on a personal level, rarely even duels. Surely he can’t be that scary?
Listen up, boy, you’ve probably heard the rumours that that thrice-damned arch-traitor knocked something wrong in the Angel of Baal, hence his avoidance of combat. Lemme tell ya, that’s a bigger load of groxshit than you’d find in an agri-world fertilizer ship.
It was on Coronus V, Garguan sector, some ten, twenty years ago. I was still just PDF back then, stationed in the capital hive. We’d been dealing with an upsurge in mutant births, rogue psyker activities, cult activity, the whole package.The Planetary Governor, that traitorous fuck, was acting a bit miffy too. Seemed intent on seccession, and the Imperium would have none of that. So, over came Sanguinius, t’see if he could straighten things out.
Now, if I’d tell ya things went to the Warp in a handbasket, I’d be underestimating to the point of groxshitting you. I was stationed near the Governatorial Palace at the time, and saw the Emperor’s Fury himself enter to meet with the Governor. I could see why they call him the Angel; I’m still not convinced he ain’t got an actual halo around his face. Face like an angel, too.

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>>59196196
Anyhow, so the moment he enters, a series of explosions rock the palace and the Hive as a whole. Within a minute, our positions are stormed by hordes of mutants and freakish zealots, barreling down at us with hardly more than cobbled-together junk as armor and rusty knives for weapons. They weren’t the problem. The problem was that pretty much every trooper in there with me, save for my own squad, the glorious bastards, made to shoot at us, screaming about offering our skulls to the Blood God.
Now, we were damn lucky that the Angel of Baal had bought a honour guard, or I wouldn’t be sitting here. Jervis was down, Petula had a slug in his shoulder and I was running out of ammo, and these freaks have almost bashed down the gates.
So we’re sitting there, thankfully having cleared the traitors out of our position, but with a horde of mutants banging at the door, praying to the Emperor for salvation - what? Yeah, yeah, I know, He didn’t want to be prayed to, but trust me, you’d do the same if you saw some harlot with a face that look like it had melted promising to do unmentionable things to your spleen. Now stop interrupting me.
Okay, so, the door gives way, Yerrin goes down to some freak with four-and-a-half arms - yeah, I don’t know how that worked either - and we’re sure we’ve faced the end. Thankfully, it seemed the Emperor listened to my prayers, and the moment I’m jumped by one of those freaks, its chest explodes in a shower of gore. It wasn’t pleasant, but I’m sure it was preferable to the alternative. In storm the red-armoured sons of Sanguinius, wreaking absolute fucking havoc on the enemy. Within ten seconds, every last mutant in that room had died.

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>>59196318
The Space Marines order us to follow them - not sure in what way we could help Astartes except draw fire away from them, but I’m not going to question a command by one of the Blood Angels. So, we grab our gear and follow them, fighting through a literal sea of mutants to get back to the palace - well, in fairness, they did most of the fighting, we just tagged along in the corridor of corpses they created.
Anyhow, we’re almost at the front door of the Governor’s place, and we see a dark, giant form crashing through one of the stained glass windows at the fifteenth floor. Turns out the Governor tried to summon Daemons to help fight the Son of the Emperor, but fucked up somewhere along the line and got possessed by one of them instead. I think they called it a Bloodthirster or something. I can’t quite recall after all those bottles of amasec I had after that event.
Anyhow, after the Daemon, the Angel of Baal jumps out and starts punching the shit out of that abomination in mid-air. They crashed into the ground together, right in front of us. That Daemon never stood a fucking chance.
After punching it until its face stopped resembling a face, the Bloodthirster vanished in a puff of sulphur, and Sanguinius looks up. I still think I’m damned for him looking me directly into my eyes. There was something angelic about him still, but not the type of angel that exemplifies kindness anymore. This was the kind of angel that storms out of the heavens with a giant flaming sword to fuck you up in all sorts of ways. His eyes… oh Emperor, his eyes. Hand me that bottle of amasec, will you? Yes, I know it’s my fifth. I’m your superior, son, so just shut the fuck up and give me the alcohol.

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>>59196530
Ah, that’s better. Where was I? Oh, right. So the Emperor’s Fury looks up at us, snarling for some reason. I looked at his Marines for guidance, and what I saw almost scared me more than Sanguinius himself. In all my years of service, I’ve seen Astartes on more occasions than many in the Guard, but this is the only time I’ve seen one afraid.
Never thought I’d say it, but I thanked the Emperor when a right proper army of heretics showed up and began to shoot at the Angel of Baal. He turned around to face them and charged. What he did… wasn’t pretty. The streets were crammed with heretics, but he just butchered them all in seconds. He waded into the city, out of sight. He pretty much single-handedly executed every traitor in the Hive that day.
I’ve seen The Emperor’s Fury fight, and let me tell you, son, he’s got that name for a reason”.

>Alpharius was obviously behind the uprising

>>59195689
Really like the idea of Ferrus and Fulgrim getting to go on HIGH ADVENTURE trips

>>59196712
Anyone want to write something about this? I've done two stories already, I'm a bit exhausted creatively at the moment.

>>59188525
What about, after the new heresy, a fight breaks up between Horus and Papa Smurf on how to handle the remaining legions, Guilliman stands for his chapters style, Horus for the traditional bigger legions, another civil war is prevented by, I dunno, Big E's intervention (tiring him up even more after the recent injuries, but both primarchs get beaten up (and maybe both in stasis) and now in the Imperium remain two different marine ideologies depending on which idea the primarchs supported

>>59197101
I like this idea, but I'm not sure about both Primarchs being pummeled into stasis - seeing that done to their gene-father would probably cause an all-out civil war.

>>59197407
Wasn't sure of that either, but I feel that this whole new "grimlight" scenario needs to deal with the newfound abbundance of alive&well primarchs

>>59197518
A good point! I would suggest a sort of 'Council of Regents', in which they spend a lot of time on Terra, making sure governance is actually competent. They might be Primarchs, but there are only eight of them, and the Imperium is the size of a galaxy. Sure, on occasion they'll venture out to kick ass or inspect the Imperium, but there are so many threats and only so many Primarchs - even they can't be in multiple places at once.
Alternatively, they could be ruling over Segmentums, taking up about as much time - sure, it's a smaller area of space, but now there's only one Primarch.

So, are we dropping the Imperium Secundus idea, btw? That could also be an option to weaken the Primarchs.

Oh, and do we want Russ or Jagathai to go Slaaneshi? I still support Russ.

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The Goodest Boy and The Emperor's Fury kicking ass and taking names, M36, colourized

Please do not die, thread. I like OP's idea and where /teeg/ is taking it ;-;

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Live damn it. LIVE.

How would diplomacy work when a xeno ambassador has to negotiate with a primarch?

>>59199820
That would probably depend on the Primarch. Horus and Sanguinius might be able to pull off not murderfucking the alien, but the less cosmopolitan Primarchs might just shoot the xenos.

>>59199858
I am now imagining another Primarch getting all the conditions the Imperium wishes for in a deal with the Eldar or Tau or a minor Xeno race because the ambassador is scared that if they'll say "no" even once, they'll be shoot with extreme prejudice.

>>59199913
I mean, they're Primarchs. They'd easily break through a Water Caste Tau's facade with the slightest frown.

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Damn it /tg/, for once you get interesting thread and its near excinction just a few hours later.

I would think Eldrad would at least try to reconnect with the Emperor. Yes he is a dick, but him and the Emperor goes a long way back. As such may be he would teach the difference to the kind of fulgrim and vulkan, allowing trade ?
Also, I am impressed nobody talked about this but Malcador ? He may live. I mean he was 6 000 year old during heresy and it is indicated he may be from Jesus time. So... May be a Perpetual, but just the one that live very long time ?
If so, th Assassinarium must look nice.

>>59202820
Malcador is probably still running the bureaucracy.

>>59203819
Based Malcador is based

>>59203993
Waiiiit... I just realised.
Malcador doesn't make his sacrifice here, if I'm not mistaken. This means he doesn't get the moniker of 'the Hero'.
THIS WILL NOT DO. BASED MALCADOR DESERVED TO BE CALLED THE HERO.
How do we make Malcador a HERO OF THE GRIMBRIGHT IMPERIUM, /tg/?

>>59204682
Making the Imperium's bureaucracy actually work is by itself something that surpasses herohood

>>59202820
which craftowrlds would be open to trading with this IoM?
maybe Saim-Hann and Ulthwe? I can't really see Alaitoc or Biel-Tan getting along with any IoM

>>59185788
In this version, the web way wasn’t completely fucked by Magnus, how much does that factor into the Imperiums power? And how would the harlequins and Dark eldar feel about humans squatting in their webway?

>>59204682
I mean if the Throne and webway breach are still there, and the emperor still has to get off his ass and kill the arch heretic, there's no reason Malcador couldn't make his sacrifice again.

The only reason the Heresy was devastating for the Imperium was the entombment of the Emperor. Everything else could have been recovered.

If the Big-E somehow endured the Heresy he would have swept away all of the remaining CSM and annihilated them. He would have eventually completed the Webway Project and btfo the Eldar/Chaos in the process. Everything would be good

Maybe Malcador still died... But he is the reason the Emperor was less injured : instead of the sacrifice of the mighty Ollanius Pius, it was Malcador that stood before Lorgar, claiming he has failed every expectation he held for him, and that if he could he would save him...
But that in this instant, he abandonned every hope he cpuld actually do that.
As such, while the Emperor was recovering, Malcador stood and held the line.

>>59195399
Chaos Wolves don't need a specific god because they fell for the minor warp deity meme

>>59214312
Wrong. The problem with the heresy is that it proved the Emperor was wrong - it's called the heresy and not just the rebellion/struggle/whatever for a reason. It permanently undermined the Emperor's ideas. The reason that the Emperor is still venerated as a God is because he's a useful figurehead to unite mankind and a good place for power to reside (and more importantly be derived from for the High Lords) - not because people believe in his ideals anymore.

Less abstractly what it showed was that the Space Marine Legions which were responsible for the early success of the Imperium could not actually be trusted to protect the newly fought for and established dominion of man and had to be kept on a much tighter leash. Hence the adoption of the Codex Astartes.

is someone putting this up on 1d4chan or what?

>>59215588
Sounds like a good idea. Are you in a position to do it? I could if necessary, but It'd be a tad inconvenient

>>59215828

sorry on break at work, about to finish

>>59215851
Ah, crud. Well, I'll do it then.

Should we launch a new thread once 1d4Chan is up? This one seems to be dying.

1d4Chan's up! Help a noob format shit.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/MidHammer_40,000

>>59214780
The Emperor still living could reassert those ideas. It is his Imperium after all. He could dictate its development with far greater success than even the Primarchs, and certainly the High Lords, could.

>>59195399
How about we have a somewhat entire legion go traitor, without their primarch, and the primarch refuses to sire any more sons?
>instead he chooses to lead an IG regiment or somesuch? His remaining loyalist son go on similar paths, leading, training or becoming planetery govs

>>59195689
>Russ
>Traitor under ANY circumstance ever

It's like you don't know the character

>>59216331
Ooh, that would be cool! Which legion, then?

>>59216361
I mean, throw enough Chaos at anyone and some if it's gonna stick.

i would say if the yiffs go chaotic leave them unaligned, they're space vikings, let them go reaving.
instead, perty should go for the god of /d/, his personality is already obsessive, if he springboards into wanting the perfect soldiers/army/battle/whatever, he's a natural fit.
Imperium secundus needs to die, it's a combo of ultra bashing & b&c rehash; what i would suggest is a military split between expeditionary and garrison astartes, horus is leading the more aggressive primarchs out into stars with rowboat setting up sound governance in his wake, while back in the imperium proper vulkan is defending the weak and dorn is fortifying this position.

>>59216369
I was thinking one of the traitor legions should go this way
>Omegon or Alpharius....

>>59216432
I agree with pretty much all of this. I wouuuld like to see Slaaneshi Space Wolves but your argument for Perturabo is solid

>>59216460
We already decided the Alphas go Tzeentchian

>>59216486
How bout russ then?
>he tries lecturing and admonishing his sons about their yiff fetish so they basically ignore and try to btfo him?

>>59188186
If Horus never went traitor Magnus wouldn't have to send the message to Terra and break the webway so the would be no reason for Russ to be sent after him.

>>59216522
I'd be down for that

>>59216616
We still have Lorgar and co. go heretic, though, so it's quite possible Magnus sends a message about THAT instead

>>59216111
What about the cabal? what part do they play in this setting?

>>59216651
Since the Heresy wasn't nearly as bad as in the original, they're either wrong or lying. if the latter, they could trick Alphie into Tzeentchianism?

>>59195689
Nah, Jagathai may have been distant but he is no fool, he would never let himself get corrupted and while traveling back to Terra his loyalty was 100% after the sacrifice his best friend made.

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bumping

Would Ferrus and Fulgrim also smith armors for each other?

>>59217536
This would make for amazing writefaggotry. Maybe Vulkan helps/teaches Fulgrim (he's a Primarch and a relentless perfectionist, but he can't have been born perfect at everything)

>>59217629
i wanted to writefaggot that but i didn't save it. Maybe an "Iron Phoenix" armor set for each.

>>59217657
F
Would you be up for trying again? I'd love to read it

Also, we shouldn't forget to put our stuff on 1d4Chan

As for the trader, yes i was thinking ulthwe... But with a twist. Every trade happen on the neutral ground of Commoragh after the dark eldar had been eradicated/exiled. Such attack against their kind but before anything make looks the Druchari bad in the eyes of their cousins made bielthan fuckin angry. As such, Vect managed to introduce the way of Commorragh into Craftworld...
Before, Dark eldar were killing and raiding for fun and necessity. Now, they do for fun and vengeance, seeking to take back their homes and made the humanity crawls at their feet.

>>59217746
i am gonna give you the plot as a green text (since i still have to do some other things)
>Ferrus and Fulgrim basically work hand in hand now
>they just won a battle on a planet named Fratis 2 against the word bearers
>Ferrus feels kinda down because it is exactly 10.000 years after the Lorgar let-down
>Fulgrim tells him to keep fighting for a better tomorrow (and helps a mother save her child)
>as a thank for motivating him Ferrus works on an armor set called the Iron Phoenix Wings
>Fulgrim finds and complets it and makes one called the Iron Phoenix Claws
>Wings is purple with a black plate over the heart
>Claws is black with a purple plate over the heart
>both have a drop of blood from the other primach on it, as a sign of true brotherhood
>Ferrus calls Fulgrim's work perfect
>they hug and laugh

>>59217903
no homo

>>59218284
110% ultra-powered turbo homo.
>>59217903
Love it!
Also
>the lorgar let-down
my sides are in orbit

>>59217870
Hmmmm... the idea of the Fall of Commoragh sounds interesting, and further the grimlight atmosphere for sure, but I'm not sure about Craftworld Eldar going Dark... Didn't Commoragh only get away with that bc they were in the Webway?

>>59219650
Oh totally. Except now they also have soulstone. As such, they do not fear anymore Slaneesh, and they just perpuate the old way of the eldar empire.
Just now, they are extremely bitter and are using the pain they used to shield Slaneesh to empower themselves. As such, they are forming a new eldar god... The god of pain and suffering. Of death. Of vengeance.
So... No more of David Bowie helping Roboute but a new one hellbent dedicated to destroy humanity to empower himself enough to take on the Chaos gods.

Don't die thread !

Would Sanguinius allow himself to grow facial hair in this timeline

>>59201975
Thank the Emperor this shit isn't dead.

Thought: Should it be archived? Is there a 1d4chan article on this shit yet?

>>59222867
See >>59216111

>>59222867
I don't know dude there are so many alternate 40k universes this place has made i've lost count

>>59216522
This sounds great. My quick train-of-thought ideas:

> Russ, the Lone Primarch.
> His legion abandoned him. They took refuge in bestial rage, the abandonment of high culture and values for the brutal existence of battle. Slowly they became less than their fellow Marines, then less than humans.
> Corrupted by the touch of the Gods, the Wolves fell, despite the farthest efforts of Russ to avert such a fate for his sons.
> Twisted and contorted, until all that was left of them was mutated, horrific creatures, the Canis Helix having overtaken them. Their power armor fused into their bodies, lining their snapping jaws and unholy, blood-slaked claws. Little left of their minds save the thirst for blood and battle.
> There is nothing left of the Space Wolves that once were, save Russ. His sons, long since lost to the Warp, are nothing more than a pack of baying hounds, little more than war-beasts to the Chaos lords they serve.
> Russ has since abandoned his lost homeworld and legion. Casting off his old regalia and armor, he has taken up a simple, unpainted set of power armor. Though his true location is known only to the Emperor, it is said by Guardsmen on campaign that he travels through the Imperium, ranging from battlefield to battlefield to annihilate the enemies of man.

>>59223010
That's actually a pretty damn good sendoff, but it sucks that the Canis Helix fucked him over this bad.

>>59222867
Also, yes!
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/59185788/

>>59223010
This is great!

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>>59223010
The average Space Wolf is somewhere around eight to nine feet tall. The Canis Helix has mutated so extensively that they now resemble upright wolves more than men, with various Chaos-derived scars, body damage, and injured skin, nearly completely coated over by a deep, often heavily manged and matted coat of fur genetically similar to human hair.

Their power armor is fused into their bodies in a varying fashion, having basically grown in (see pic related for a general idea). It is also a living part of them; the canine jaws and lengthy claws of the Space Wolf are lined with ceramite, contributing to their ability to effectively gore enemies to death. Inside, some of their organs- including Astartes implants- have duplicated further, enabling them to sustain lengthy fire from even bolters when combined with their ingrown armor.

The Space Wolf is close to non-sentient. It's lost the ability to speak or otherwise create intelligent vocalization, and is belligerent and hostile in nearly all occasions, but is just intelligent enough to dimly understand and resent how far it has fallen, as well as obey the orders of its dark masters. Their gait is usually quadrupedal, but they may rear up on their human legs much like a bear would.

While the Space Wolves are monstrously powerful, being effectively power armor-lined and Warp-enhanced, they are also rare. Only the original legionaries who fell are left; the Canis Helix, unless somehow integrated into another human, is the key to their specific brand of mutation and corruption, and as such a Lord trying to produce more Wolves will be met with no success. For this reason, the Wolves are highly prized; beaten into compliance, these war-beasts trade hands, only loyal to those they fear or their patron Gods. It is considered quite an accomplishment to have enough to send into battle, but they are well worth it, tearing and ripping through enemy lines while shrugging off ordnance that would bisect a Chaos Marine.

I will try to make some writefaggotry with the dark eldar tomorrow.

BY THE EMPEROR, PLACE THIS THREAD UPON THE GOLDEN THRONE

Fuck my sleep, I don't need it.

Lieutenant Gardia was slowing waking up. Her mouth was... Heavy. As her head, almost as wasted as the one time she tried to beat a Krieger in a drinking contest.

"Oh ? Our sweet little battery is finally waking up ? Good... Good good good..."

The voice... It was eery... What... Was she doing ?
An attack. She remembered clearly an attack.
A spike penetrated her wrist, before it excruciate her flesh.

"Don't worry, it will be painful !"

The voice was definitely appreciating her souffrance. Shit, what in the Emperor name is going on ?
Gardia slowly opened her eye... To see a myriad of blades, all perfectly clean and of all kind of size. Some were juste knifes, really. The one on the farthest left ? Definitely Catachan.
The lieutenant finally looked at her wrist, before seeing a dark purple liquid going inside of her.

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

THE PAIN ! It was... Oh Emperor, what was going on ?!

"So... I know most of my colleague thinks of you as nothing more than cows or sheeps for our greater need... But see, I am a bit different. I believe, you mon'keigh actually have feelings. Conscience. Memory. So I need to ask. On a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being a pain so powerful it would break your mind apart... Where are you right now ?"

"Se... SEVEN !"

"Good ! It is a progress then ! If it was so powerful that your lowly brain was already destroyed, I would have to throw you in the Warp."

"Wh... What ?"

The pain... It was still here. Juste barely bearable...

"Oh don't worry. You are part of a greater project now. See ? Before you would have simply lived and die for a dying man on a throne, not caring for you even one instant. Now ? Now you will live, suffer a lot... May be if you provide some good quality of pain, I will ask we breed you ! Of course, it will be painful too."

"FRAK YOU ! I CURSE YOU AND YOUR KIND FILTHY THING !"

"I sure hope so !"

The voice, still joyfull went then silent... Leaving Gardia suffer in her cell....

>>59225042
I thought for a second that this was a botched attempt at the atrocity of making a female SM.

>>59225042
The Emperor isn't a dying man, though. He's recovering.

>>59225042
This is a nice example of how we're not doing BrightHammer. Shit can be fucked, but usually there's a glimmer of hope. Usually, not always.

Bumping this thread further. Any more writefags about?

>>59188028
What if Magnus simply didn't fuck it all up, and ended up being seated on the Throne as intended?

>>59232586
Emps still needs the throne to heal, though.