>>66709472
Because /tg/ is bunch of scalies with fetish for broodmother and mother's of monsters?

Is Tiamat's humanoid form a cute loli?

>>66709472
Because she perfectly represents/tg/'s love of the LUL SO RANDUM I KILL EVERYTHING AND LITERALLY MAKE LIFE WORSE FOR MY OWN FOLLOWERS LUL villain without being an elf.
Also because of degenerates.

Where is that Gif from?

>>66709472
Because if you remove the i then her name is a perfect palindrome. You can then use the i other ways.

Tamat - i
i-Tamat
Taṁat (the i is on top of the m and that makes it a palindrome too, quite clever)

>>66709472

Vecna, no question. His successes are on a scale that most villains can only dream about.

Vecna shit over all of the rules of two established settings just so that he could rewrite the rules of the multiverse and be the in-character reason for the changeover from second edition to 3.0/3.5. Thats right, Vecna the super wizard rigged the game so that caster edition would happen. Every single fucking caster vs martials bullshit thread is Vecna's fault. Every single bad design decision that started in DnD 3.0/3.5 and never died is Vecna's fault.

Vecna won, and it did irreparable damage to DnD as a franchise and tabletop RPGs as a whole for decades.

>>66709472
Because the most popular tabletop RPG is and always has been D&D, and Tiamat is kind of the ultimate dragon without getting into niche weirdness like temporal dragons.

Vecna might be more popular with the neckbeard grognards, but Tiamat is much more accessible and understandable.

>>66709689
No she is extra-thicc.

>>66709515
>broodmother
Tell me more. Is she willing to adapt another kid?

>>66709472
Dr. Destroyer, hands down.
Mechanon is a close second though.

>>66709973
Gay.

>>66709835
>vecna is the overall meta-villain for D&D

I've never considered this before. How could I be so blind?

File: peter-konig-tiamatsmall.jpg (244 KB, 1024x1345)

244 KB JPG

>>66709472
Because she's an immortal magic 5 headed dragon that want to destroy the world and best mommy

File: advanced_dungeons___drago(...).jpg (295 KB, 900x893)

295 KB JPG

>>66710940

>>66709472
>Taimat
>Not Graz'zt
I at least want to have some fun before I die.

>DM turned a situation with Tiamat into a dating VN where each head is like a different girl

That was a weird game lol

>>66710940
>>66712707
She's a milf. She has a lot of children.

>>66712707
M-mommy...

>>66712707
>Not red hair
God fucking damnit.

File: Wastrin patsaalla.jpg (393 KB, 829x1200)

393 KB JPG

>>66712707
Takhsis > Tiamat

>>66709472
>>66709903
>>66712287
This. She is fucking D&D Ghidorah. What else could you want?
I mean there are better villains when it comes villain-ing, but Tiamat is the most smackable of the bunch.

>>66715811
Fuckable too.

>>66709835

You're right. Even besides that, Vecna is a classic villain with style. I imagine he's actually pretty flamboyant but, you know, competent and smart so it's cool.

File: Asmodeus_-_Eric_Deschamps.jpg (52 KB, 400x532)

52 KB JPG

I'm more partial to Asmodeus

>>66716071

As long as it's DnD Asmodeus, not PF Asmodeus. They made him so petty with his "muh misogyny" schtick.

>>66716119
I thought that was just Asmodeus bullshitting to keep people beneath him occupied and fighting each other?

Well, lets look at the big ones.
>tiamat
>vecna
>strahd
>Imix
>Acererak
>Orcus
there are a bunch desu

>>66715790
What the fuck is a takhsis?
No genuinely I can't find anything.

>>66716145

Nah, it's very much part of his deal in PF. PF took a hard veer towards political correctness, where they basically said that anyone who supported the traditional family unit (Erastil) couldn't be good-aligned, and so changed a lot of their fluff.

>>66716119
I've never looked at Pathfinder but DnD Asmo always just seemed cool to me.

>>66716171
Well, that's absolutely fucking retarded and misses the entire point of Asmodeus.

>>66712768
Was there a harem route?

File: Venger vs Tiamat.jpg (713 KB, 1247x800)

713 KB JPG

>>66709472
>Who is the best /tg/ villain and why is Tiamat?
Because it sure as shit ain't Venger

>>66716170
Read a book, faggot.

>>66716171
Stop getting your information from /tg/.
That's not what Paizo said, that's what spergs on /tg/ greentexted.

>>66717499
post what it actually is then

>>66712768
So which head was best girl?

>>66717526
That what they changed was that Erastil supported traditional families, but not the nuclear family Americans think it is.
That means 2 primary parental figures, extended family support, as well as a strong community bond, and family was not limited to western Christian values.
The only reason this actually came up was due to spergs on their forums saying "WELL ACKSHUALLY" to the point that Paizo had to shut them down.

>>66717543
To my taste? Red.

>>66717323
In a sense it was technically always harem because by circumstances, it was my guy and Tiamat as the only surviving beings left in the setting. So they were basically stuck together and had to get along, which meant each head of hers.

File: Tiamat Bed Eyes.png (1.73 MB, 1280x960)

1.73 MB PNG

Because she wants the D

>>66716164
Strahd gets a lot of style points for even being on that list since he is by a wide margin the weakest one there

>>66717944
The nitpicker in me wants to point out that while Tiamat has five heads, she has just one mind, at least canonically. She doesn't have multiple personalities the way Demogorgon does.

But that's just me nitpicking about canon, and the #1 rule for DMs is that it's your game and you can change anything you want.

>>66717984
Because (every other god died) she was the new god of the setting, although she was one minded, in this case to some extent she needed to diversify her minds almost because she had to take on all the mantles of creation. Almost in some sense, like each becoming a new god of something, or like different faces of creation of the same god.

I mean it was still same old, single entity Tiamat, but it was like interacting with different parts of her one mind/one personality physically shunted into each head. Like that Pixar movie with the emotions as little beings, but if they got a head each instead of sharing one.

At least I think that's how the DM had it.

File: Tiamat.jpg (35 KB, 504x512)

35 KB JPG

>>66712707
>Dark queen of Krynn
Wouldn't that mean that is a picture of Tkhisis? And I'm pretty sure that's Raistlin in those bindings.
A quick Google search brings this us as Tiamat's human form.

File: chibi_tiamat_by_jestersfo(...).jpg (85 KB, 882x906)

85 KB JPG

>>66718043
Fair enough. For my part I tend to use the number of heads Tiamat has focused on a single subject as indicative of either how seriously Tiamat is taking the subject, and/or how fucked the subject is. Possibly both.

Awhile back there was a troll Anon who asked why D&D adventurers don't just use Wish to wish away Tiamat. My response was something to the effect of...

>Because that vastly exceeds the limitations of the Wish spell...but if a player of mine actually did attempt that I think what I'd have happen is nothing seems to occur, then a few seconds later their character disappears from wherever they are and appears in Avernus directly before Tiamat, with all five heads glaring down at him and shouting in unison: "WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU GET THE BALLS?!"

For some reason I imagine Tiamat as swearing like a sailor. Like, completely devoid of poise or grace or pretense, if she's fucking pissed then YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING KNOW IT. She is by no means stupid - being a goddess she's smarter, wiser, and more charismatic than almost any mortal - but Tiamat has exactly zero fucks to spare for humanoid monkeys and their delicate linguistic sensibilities. She's a fucking goddess, what the fuck are you going to do about it?

>>66709973
*extra-thicc loli

>>66717944
>In a sense it was technically always harem because by circumstances, it was my guy and Tiamat as the only surviving beings left in the setting. So they were basically stuck together and had to get along, which meant each head of hers.
Was it also your duty to help her repopulate the universe? Lucky bastard.

>>66718167
Tkhisis and Tiamat are the same being.

>>66718332
Well less specifically repopulate and more create a new setting. They basically became the pantheon together of the new setting after the old one died (previous campaign exploded). But part of it involved banging when it came to creating life after creating a world suitable for it, since she couldn't create life from herself with sacrificing something which she wasn't interested in doing.

I mean really though it was like the Queen and King of hearts, she did what she wanted like her usual tyrannical self and he kind of just clung to her leg for recognition, and occasionally she might grab him when she needed him for something, and less occasionally in fact very rarely she might listen to him when he thought she'd gone too far with something.

>>66718290
I like the idea of multiple heads representing like, percent focus on something. All five heads focused, 100% her attention is on a task or target at hand.

>>66718312
*extra-thicc milfoli

File: this is a good thing.jpg (134 KB, 497x404)

134 KB JPG

>>66709835
Seconding this. I fell in love with Vecna as a character the first time I played through "Die Vecna Die!" and to this day I find him to be the perfect archetype for an archlich and probably the first PC (in terms of his actions and backstory) in D&D history.

>>66709689
God I want that now

>>66717961
>Strahd (...) is by a wide margin the weakest one there
Wrong. Strahd wipes the floor with Vecna.

>>66709472
I liked her Unified Setting fluff where she created the kobolds as a slave race in her war against Bahamut and then after they both got killed by fairies the kobolds just sort of drifted around being tribal and worshipping big things, since she made that a natural part of their behavior.

>>66712287
>best mommy
Zoomers pls go

File: a8cc9c8a8945561128d75ec7a(...).jpg (50 KB, 474x693)

50 KB JPG

>>66718604
I would rather have a setting where each head got it's own completelly different personality but they all share in some way one single hive mind.

So even though each head would react differently to something and talk in a different tone they all share the same basic traits and goals never disagreeing or discussing. Also Tiamat could have 5 avatars at the same time each doing different jobs and/or adopting an different identities. Like Red being an empress ruling an empire, Black being a priest leader of a cult in a far away country and White being an adventurer/explorer searching for useful items or people that could help her.

>>66717475
Which fucking book?

>>66718780
Yeah that's a neat interpreation. The latter part is how it played out with godhood, each head was like a different god of something like a major concept, death/entropy, life/fertility, etc. though all technically the same single overgod but different aspects of it.

>>66716071
Zariel is best waifu of the nine hells.
Plus she has no lore so can do whatever the fuck you want with her character & plot.
Just start with:
> was an angel not *too* long ago.
> just got out of hell prison, where she has had her power sucked out of her for the duration by some poser greater devil.
> she keeps him around anyway because he’s bully-able, good at his job, and the other neckbeard devilcels like him and aren’t scared of talking to him like they are of her.

>>66718729
At the end of the day, Strahd is just a Dracula expy. He’s a pretty powerful vampire but he isn’t *that* much stronger than a normal D&D vampire, at least not in any depiction of him I know of. He’s very dangerous to a 10th level party, but a cakewalk for a 20th level party.

Whereas Vecna is a god and all the power that entails. Seriously, what can Strahd do that Vecna can’t?

>>66716170
>takhsis
Seems to be Tiamat, but by a different name from the Dragonlance setting.

>>66718729
>Wrong. Strahd wipes the floor with Vecna.

A vampire trapped in a demiplane wipes the floor with a greater god who broke out of said demiplane, then caused the rules that governed the multiverse to be rewritten.
Yeah, I'm not buying it.

File: anime-girl-archer-white-h(...).jpg (128 KB, 1440x900)

128 KB JPG

>>66718780
>Tiamat create an adventurer avatar and spend years saving people and defeating monsters(conveniently many of them minions of her rivals)
>turn famous and loved by everyone
>earn the trust of adventurers of the entire world, joining several teams temporary
>somehow the evil Goddess is always 2 steps ahead of every group who try to ruin her plans
>Your best friend, grilfriend or even wife could be her and you would never know

>>66716170
Takhisis. You couldn't find anything because nobody bothered to spell her name right. She's the main evil god in Dragonlance, and the local version of Tiamat.

>>66717947
I had a character in one game that was a Paladin under Bahamut who ended up banging Tiamat to hard she gave him a relic to summon her for a booty call at any moment. I think he had a surprisingly well-adjusted kid with her.

File: consider the following 5.jpg (146 KB, 654x539)

146 KB JPG

>>66719035
>He’s a pretty powerful vampire but he isn’t *that* much stronger than a normal D&D vampire
spare the Count some slack, for a 6-to-10 adventure, the module's extremely hard, not to mention he's so evil he literally summoned greater powers of evil that trapped him in his own demiplane.
>>66719078
Yes, that actually happened. Being fair, it wasn't Strahd at his best fighting Vecna at his best but an argument could be made Vecna dies more times than Strahd and one actively attempted to fuck over the planes and achieve godhood while the other one just wanted him waifu.

File: fug.jpg (12 KB, 177x188)

12 KB JPG

>>66719274
>him waifu
typo, his waifu*

>>66719274
>spare the Count some slack

I gave him massive cool points already for the fact that despite he fact that he’s significantly weaker than Acererak, Vecna, Tiamat, or others, he’s still listed among D&D’s most iconic villains.

It’s sort of like how in Marvel, Red Skull is generally considered to be one of the most dangerous beings on the entire planet Earth, despite the fact that his power set amounts to “just a little beyond maximum human potential.” In a setting with folks like Doctor Doom and Magneto and Loki running around, people who can throw mountains or immolate entire nations with their personal power, Red Skull is still a major threat.

>>66719274
Strahd never met Vecna. I think you're mistaking Azalin for Vecna, Strahd and Azalin have met and did fight each other during Ravenloft's temporary malfunction.

File: i accept it.jpg (51 KB, 480x410)

51 KB JPG

>>66719410
>I gave him massive cool points already for the fact
Granted. Anyhow, Ravenloft deserves more love.
>>66719434
You're most likely right, I've played it some time ago so I could very well get stuff wrong but I was pretty sure you go to "Ravenloft in Die Vecna Die!".

>>66719472
Yep, Vecna was trapped in his own pocket of Ravenloft for a time. He was stuck in an island realm with Kas (as in the Sword of Kas) as a next door neighbor, hilarity ensued. Vecna broke out of Ravenloft during "Die Vecna Die!".

File: Spirit animal.jpg (123 KB, 460x436)

123 KB JPG

>>66718617

>>66716170
Multiple anons misspelled Takhisis and that's probably fucking up your google-fu.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I was one of those anons.

File: Johannes Dragonraper.jpg (130 KB, 756x529)

130 KB JPG

>>66709472
Because

>>66719135
Is it even possible to seduce her without changing her character? Afaik she is pretty horny and can assume human form but I don't know if she is even interested on humans at all

>>66712865
Milf and loli are not mutually exclusive terms.

File: Exalted.jpg (372 KB, 846x1079)

372 KB JPG

>>66718780
>I would rather have a setting where each head got it's own completelly different personality but they all share in some way one single hive mind.
The Five Heads of Vengeance would make a pretty good Yozi now that you mention it.

>>66709706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb7nLoCTnl0

>>66720676
As far as I know the only one Tiamat canonically wants to spread ‘em For is Bahamut

>>66716164
friendly reminder that vecna is a fucking nerd and that acererak is the true shitposter Archlich

>>66716071
Why are his horns cresen-wiches (crescent roll sammiches)?

They always make his horns look retarded.

>>66709472
You got nothing and nothing's got you I can see your fear it surrounds you built with strife insight but that's not enough I'll defeat and disrcreet you're every move

>>66715790
Takhisis, the dumb bitch who shat her self and nope out on her first attempt at world conquest because some one pricked her with a little spear causing her pain? That Takhisis?

>>66723449
>That Bahamut asshole with his disgustingly beautiful scales and obnoxiously handsome figure... I bet his dick is too big or some shit.

>>66724288
Unfortunately he only has lust for JUSTICE

>>66724358
I- I named my character Justice. Should I be concerned Bahamut is going to try to bone him?

File: 1552167952512.jpg (44 KB, 240x230)

44 KB JPG

>>66724288
>TFW you destroyed enough planets to get bahamut's attention

>>66724375
It would only be just.

>>66724358
Dont make the character wear anything too sexy.

>>66724288
Reminder: they’re brother and sister.

>>66721745
Bruh

I love jerk villains who have fun being villains.

File: Homestuck_Caliborn.png (35 KB, 500x353)

35 KB PNG

>>66726984
Patrician

>>66709689
No, but Erandis Vol is a canon D&D probably loli lich.

>>66716171
Stop playing in the established PF setting. You use a homebrew setting, right?

>>66715790
I too use Taxis to get around.
Wait time on dragons is ridiculous

>>66710142
Do you mean adopt anon?

>>66726264
Incest is bestcest.

>>66718795
Original dragonlance trilogy is good. You get to see more of her interacting with people (raistlin) in the test of the twins trilogy.

>>66726984
We need more jerks that aren't really villains. We need more Gary Oaks's in the world of fiction.

>>66709472
>and why is Tiamat?
Are you Drax? Did Marduk just ask "Where is Tiamat?"

>>66712707
Why were the 80s into curly hair?

File: 4E169704-6AEC-4C0D-BAFF-0(...).png (3.07 MB, 1603x966)

3.07 MB PNG

>>66709472

>>66717902
Sounds just as bad and cringey

>>66719135
Of course the kid would be well adjusted. Sounds like the DM just bends over to whatever their retard players want

File: A43882DB-4068-4408-8064-F(...).jpg (163 KB, 397x600)

163 KB JPG

>>66727657

>>66730651
What a qt. How do you get one of those for yourself? Asking for myself, I love lolis you see.

>>66718617
Why is it that every time I come here, you faggots give me another fetish I'll never be able to fulfill?

>>66731172
Adrian fuck off

>>66731316
Who'd Adrian and why are you so rude towards him?

>>66718818
What were each of the heads personalities anon? I'm very interested in this campaign.

>>66723109
Man, i wish they would make more of those. Really sweet stuff

>>66720676
Considering he was an Aasimar with a godly charisma, having banged Lolth not long prior, yes. It's possible. Also, my DM was an idiot.

>>66727657
Erandis was 16 when she got NECRO'D, you may confusing her with Thrane's loli pope.

>>66709472
she's good, but she ain't no Lord Soth, or Aumvor.

>>66712707
Raistlin just want a piece of that

File: 430.jpg (104 KB, 960x720)

104 KB JPG

>>66727657
>loli lich
>>66730651
>loli pope

>>66717947
>5 husbands at the same time that are constantly replaced because they can't satisfy her
Well canonically she is that thirsty

Man, we need a new D&D show/movie, mommy dragon needs to come back to action.

>>66709689
No, she's properly MILFy

>>66717947
>Somehow manage to bed Tiamat
>Turns out she's a yandere thirsty MILF who will literally snu snu you to death and your soul into oblivion if you don't get out of there and/or find a replacement for her to crush on

>>66726264
That just makes it better.

>>66730350
>The ultimate dragon megazord

>>66726264
>evil monster is a perv

>>66726264
I bet not getting dat onii-chan dick is why she's so cranky.

>>66727400
Tiamat and Caliborn/Lord English are really similar
>sociopaths
>see their followers as objects but can appreciate their efforts and treat them nicely if they prove themselves useful
>only want to conquer and war for fun
>have a saint twin that want to stop them
>they want to kill but also rape this goody twin
>love to manipulate and confuse the heroes by using several avatars and incarnations
>have their own cult that worship them as a god
>are extremely arrogant and smartass but also impulsive and foolish

File: Tiamat_%28Eternal_Mother%29[1].jpg (118 KB, 640x800)

118 KB JPG

>tfw Tiamat will never sensually bully you after stomping your party

>>66735629
>Not being sensually bullied by her in dragon form

>>66709689
>humanoid form

>>66735432
IIRC it literally is. Or it at least plays a big part of it.

>>66709472
>villain
Tiamat's blood runs through the veins of every human. She is our divine mother, and Marduk is a betrayer-a tyrant.

File: Dragolisco Tiamat LR.png (1.93 MB, 1603x966)

1.93 MB PNG

Don't mind me, just posting the superior Tiamat art

>>66735821
>tfw we could have neutral and even good aligned chromatics if Bahamut had just given his imouto the D like a big brother is supposed to
It's not fair

File: 1519530778.smallcoffemani(...).jpg (1.39 MB, 2000x2524)

1.39 MB JPG

>tfw I used to ERP as Tiamat
Playing each head with it's own personality is fun but man did it take a lot of work. Shame I'll never find someone to do the same for me.

>>66737352
You were doing Tiamat's work anon

File: Kreia is forever.jpg (133 KB, 1054x1300)

133 KB JPG

I don't particularly want to be /That Guy/, but I suppose I'll have to be for the purpose of this thread. Kreia is the all-time best villain. Utterly unchallengeable in terms of her motivation and goal, and even her means only fell short by a certain amount. Even in her monstrosity, she trained the greatest jedi the old Republic ever knew, because of those means. Of course, she did have her issues. Pic related.

>>66737854
Kreia was an old idiot, and Visas Marr is best girl.

>>66737955
Kreia had the most complete understanding of the entire fucking galaxy out of anyone in that game and arguably the entire setting. But yeah, Visas was best girl.

>>66737974
I'm just grumpy with her because she had the gall to scold me for tryin' to score some Miraluka handholding and cuddles.

>>66738005
Yeah, issues.

>>66737854
>Star Wars trash
>Good
Get fucked

>>66738201
>No substantiating reasoning

>>66737854
Kreia motivations are just as stupid as her backstory.

>>66737810
I'm also why there's a whole lewd album of her. I really like Tiamat.

File: Smug anime girl.png (65 KB, 300x300)

65 KB PNG

>>66738278
Kreia's motivations as I understand them:
>The Force seems to be controlling people and events not so much on a personal scale as a population scale
>Any time things get too bad, they drift back towards neutral because the Force wills it
>Any time things get too good, they drift back towards neutral because the Force wills it
>This produces a reality where existence is a pit of nihilism with no meaning or value, as anything you may accomplish will ultimately be reset to zero in time
>Kreia seeks to render all lifeforms deaf to the Force so that it cannot affect them, as anybody who is truly, perfectly oblivious to it cannot be influenced by it
>This would enable a truly meaningful existence for all lifeforms in the galaxy

Your turn.

>>66735629
Hot

>>66709704
>LUL SO RANDUM

but she's lawful evil.

>>66738299
God's
Work

>>66738299
>Lewd album of tiamat

I'm sickened, but curious

>>66739172
https://imgur.com/a/sXkzx

>>66709472
Nah, if we're going D&D, my money's on Bane or Lolth. Bane is a badass and a pretty good masterming and Lolth is just so instantly hateable. At least her classic take on the character is.

>>66738299
Yeah, Tiamat is a pretty classic metal band. What's your favourite album? Mune is "Clouds", I guess.

>>66731409
DM wasn't trying to reinvent the wheel so they were fun and unique but pretty standard personality types.

Red was the chaotic impulsive and willful one, blue was the calm and collected wise one, green was the least evil and vibrant optimist one, white was the intelligent scheming pessimist one, black was the stoic guiding and realist one. Tiamat was of course one being but each head became distinct as a goddess of different things which kind of contributed to each head having a dinstinct "identity" due to the differences in godly domains.

Tiamat proper and my guy formed the duo pantheon of the new setting, but also the relationship each individual head had with my guy was also a different aspect to the pantheon in regards to the domains/"personality" each head had in regards to my guy's domain/personality.

Also something I thought was quite neat and creative was different ways that the DM came to create aspects of the setting by attributing actual things in the rules to the duo pantheon of Tiamat/my guy. For example one way was, each of the five heads also represented (as like a "concept" to the setting) one of the primary stats of the usual STR/DEX/CON/INT/WIS/CHA along with my guy representing one to round out all six stats. Just lots of neat little things the DM was able to do with the setting when *only* having (at the same time) both two gods, and six.

>>66739358
>green was the least evil and vibrant optimist one


ex fuckin cuse me?

>>66739488
That head became the nature/life/fertility goddess of the setting so it came with the territory.

Maybe not as much least evil but least detrimental/destructive to the setting. Either way, green was the second easiest head to get along with, in as far as getting along was possible.

>>66739537
Green dragons are the dick rogues of dragons, the love dealing in secrets and destroying cities from within through court intrigue

Which is literally what the white dragon was given for some reason.

>white was the intelligent

this actual blow my mind even further, the fuck.

>>66739583
Take it up with the DM, she played that half of the game/setting making.

>>66739603
tell her an white dragons, until they become full grown ancient dragons, are dumber than goblins.

File: by the emperor.png (220 KB, 500x911)

220 KB PNG

>>66739192
Oh bahamut.

>>66739648
Just give it a Headband of Intellect and let everything burn (or freeze in that case).

Which head likes cuddles the most?

>>66737974
Except no she didn’t. She was wrong, Anon. Her entire worldview about how the Force functions is objectively wrong based on literally everything else ever published about it. And to some extent she knew that, but either ignored or refused to believe it.

Kreia lies. That is the #1 thing you have to remember about that game. She lies to everyone, even herself. She’s just also the main source of exposition in the game, so it’s easy to get suckered in to her worldview. But she lies.

File: 9a545e1d1d6fcf5e51bb1779c(...).png (216 KB, 500x695)

216 KB PNG

>>66709472
Honsou was satisfyingly petty when it came down to it. He's certainly one of the most recognised 40k villains on /teegee/. The guy burned a planet to spite one man.

>>66739192
Thank you anon

>>66730350
>>66737096
I love that guy with the poleaxe off to the side just standing there like "Welp, that's that then."

>>66737854
This is /v/ not /tg/

>>66730314
It's just fashion, we have much more frequent trends nowadays. Like lumberjack style, fuckboy etc.
That but it lasts a decade instead of half a year

>>66739886
Black for sure so she can nonchalantly mumble morning after / after sex talk about terrible things.

File: 04055542-213C-4C46-9A5E-9(...).jpg (175 KB, 640x564)

175 KB JPG

Do you think Tiamat is considered a short stack loli next to her brother, or she trying to /ss/ the platinum dragon?

>>66741354
They're twins born at the same time, and Tiamat is definitely a dom.

>>66718780
So she use avatars to roleplay as characters and win just like the players?

Is there any villain that canonically do that? Sounds like an interesting premise.

>>66716119
>>66716145
That's one of the things that I really dislike about PF lore that I ignore in my games, such biases should be way beneath Asmodeus unless he is manipulating someone with them.

>>66720183
Wow, that's a blast from the past.

>>66709472
I want to make the big T the enemy of my campaign but I don't want to force the players into it. How do I go about wrangling this? They've got sort of normal "human" enemies and such that they deal with but a big dragon bitch is too good to ignore.

>>66724358
>Unfortunately he only has lust for JUSTICE
Who thanks to the metaphysics of the planes has a pretty sexy avatar in Axis

>>66741520
Tiamat and other very powerful beings have difficulty leaving their home planes. It's not as simple as opening a Gate and summoning them, they're too powerful and the Material Plane just sort of rejects or opposes their presence. It takes MAJOR magic to bring them bodily to the Prime.

As such, Tiamat probably works best as a man-behind-the-man sort of villain, with the end goal being preventing her from ever leaving Avernus. Her presence should be felt but never really seen, and she should be manipulating events to try and engineer her release from Avernus onto the Prime.

>>66739886
Red, she’ll never admit it though

>>66741354
>>66741374
MILF dom definitely, she’d turn her brother into a shota and /ss/nu snu him to hell and back if she could

>>66728076
Nah, Tiamat plays a mean Simic deck.

>>66709472
A giant motherfucking dragon with 5 motherfucking heads.Metal as fuck.

>>66709472
Why so many humans follow her if she is such a cunt to everyone?

>>66743472
Dragon pussy
Alternatively, if a giant, five headed dragoness told you to do something, would say no?

File: dagoth_ur_by_besenheide_d(...).jpg (124 KB, 894x894)

124 KB JPG

>>66709472
Are we counting /tg/ related vidya villains?

>>66744000
Trips of truth desu

>>66731836
Keith Baker made them that way so they could get into a catfight.

>>66738482
No she is chaotic evil. she is just bound to the lawful evil hell. I don't recall why though.

File: 9758c961bbf060d3cb5bc10b2(...).jpg (30 KB, 600x314)

30 KB JPG

>>66709472
imma have to go with the undead boi that creates gods for shits and giggles

>>66744000
I don't even know, or care, who that is. Or rather, to clarify, I know that it has something to do with The Elder Scrolls, but I do not care about The Elder Scrolls.

>>66745010
I've got, like, five statblocks says different. Tiamat is Lawful Evil and always has been.

>>66744873
Who would win in a catfight though?

File: Tiamat dd.png (791 KB, 1412x724)

791 KB PNG

>>66717984
>The nitpicker in me wants to point out that while Tiamat has five heads, she has just one mind, at least canonically. She doesn't have multiple personalities the way Demogorgon does.

The site seems to state that each head has it's own mind

>>66746316
Huh, that's new.

>>66738331
Ok, easy:
>Kreia has no right to enforce her will on anyone, much less the whole galaxy
What, because she's a shriveled old bitch she gets to do essentially the same as the force she so hates? What a hypocrite.

>>66746316
>leaders of the cult view Tiamat as an unstoppable weapon
She's a goddess. What sort of idiot thinks a goddess is just a tool or weapon?

>>66745616
Erandis has 8th level spells at max. Jaela has 9th. With a miracle Jaela can probably resurrect Erandis.

>>66747047
The sort that usually gets eaten first after bringing her into their world

>>66718780
Could go the Ghidorah KotM approach. Each head is Ghidorah, but when not facing something his size Lefty might begin poking around or investigating the current humans, or finding out what their ashes taste like, while Righty just keeps looking for things to kill, with Middle basically pulling them in (physically at times) to focus on certain things. Could be seen as the different emotions of a moment finding ways to play out, or two sides of the same brain straying. Different scene involving a challenge from Godzilla has two heads showing rage and bloodlust, with Lefty showing either some fear or confusion.

>>66747047
I think they mean that Tiamat cult plan to take over the world is simply summon Tiamat herself.

Once she is summoned all the world armies will be either crushed by her and the cult soldiers combined forces or will surrender. Then Tiamat will put them to rule the world in her name.

>>66747681
>Lefty
Goddamnit Kevin.

>>66737854
>Of course, she did have her issues.
Like using reverse psychology to get the exile to bang her daughter?

>>66741161
You're welcome. I'm always on the hunt for (semi) reasonable new artists to commission for more Tiamat goodness so that link is good to have

>>66747804
I was hoping people would know that! Just didn't want to count on it. Still makes a good example though.

>>66744000
No, this is /v/

>>66718604
I really like the Idea of Tiamat being one pantheon of a single being, it fit well her belief that no other god should be worshipped and that she need no allies.

>>66743472
Because power is hot.

It doesn't matter if you're physically repulsed by the being holding the power, there's something viscerally attractive about a creature that acts and moves with power. It's built into the primal part of the human brain, the lizard living in you that goes unga bunga when it looks at a being that could crush you with a thought and completely owns that power, makes it seem only natural. Something that your mind just can't picture as weak without it seeming completely out of place.

Power is hot.

File: TI.AMAT.jpg (133 KB, 523x741)

133 KB JPG

This thread feels very weird to me.
I prefer original ancient Tiamat from early myths, not this mockery of her from DnD.
But I admit that she's quite hot. But the thread still disgusts me.

>>66731172
First you get a green dragon to secretly fuck an elf. If the result is gril (or cute boi who can be trap loli), you go public with the news, sparking an all-out war that destroys everyone in the family except the loli. Then you turn loli into a lich.

>>66750622
Can I make the loli myself by true polymorphing into a dragon? I could make a silver loli variant.

File: tiamathuman.jpg (185 KB, 676x1024)

185 KB JPG

>>66743472
What are you gay?

>>66730350
How the fuck is a party supposed to defeat this thing through direct combat again?

>>66718882
That barebones lore that she has makes it seem like she's got anger issues and/or a fuck up
>partially responsible why Asmodeus is around in Hell for REEEEE'ing at court
>had one job, watch the Blood War and don't get involved
>decide to rip and tear demons thus getting involved
>Asmodeus decides fuck it and makes her in charge of that layer of Hell
I'm sure with the new adventure that takes place in Avernus that she won't fuck up her new job.

>>66739603
This sounds like a strange couples pseudo-ERP game.

>>66709472
The best /tg/ villain was Virt. The bastard won, and made himself redundant. Everyone on here is like him now.

>>66751663
That guy that started the elf-hate meme right?

>>66743472
What better thing to do, than die for the most beautifull creature in existance.

>>66751676
Nah, the guy that had a genuine Dead Female Guro fetish, but more importantly, started the trend of hating everything and anything relentlessly and maliciously on here.

>>66751708
Eh, frankly I think NiceDemonette has had just as much if not more influence given how many threads turn into or reference fetish stuff.

>>66751708
4chan was always like that.
>n-no...
Yes it was, this place hate for reddit was an example.

>>66715790
takhisis is literally tiamat you fucking dunce

File: D2pwnnQUcAEBrZ3.jpg (29 KB, 700x621)

29 KB JPG

>>66745221
thanks for your input, anon

>>66750557
> Respecting ancient thot daemon.
Okie donkey.
May she rest in piss.
Dragon mom is way better then that trash.

>>66710153
My Champions brother from another mother.

>>66730314
Why aren't you?

File: iijvfqL.jpg (25 KB, 480x270)

25 KB JPG

>>66709472

>>66752200
Now cum on it

>>66739192
Nothing is sacred/cursed, not even an insane 5 heads dragon deity, destroyer of worlds, matriarch of an entire sentient species.

>tfw this thread makes me want to do a Tiamat campaign
And by that I mean either direct "paladins" (or similar) of Tiamat or literally Tiamat herself. Sadly the latter would only really work as a quest and the former would mean I'd have to actually play D&D again.

File: 1550702471677.png (1.47 MB, 945x1200)

1.47 MB PNG

>>66723449
What's the appeal?

File: Zorc_the_dark-one11_pic.jpg (91 KB, 1024x768)

91 KB JPG

>>66709472
I wonder if Zorc imagines his dick is Tiamat when he jacks off

>>66716171
>anyone who supported the traditional family unit (Erastil) couldn't be good-aligned
The fuck now? Seriously?

>>66749237
/tgesg/ has been around for years. its a staple on the board. deal with it.

File: 1545936506440.gif (449 KB, 500x496)

449 KB GIF

>>66709472
I like Tiamat but I find her two sisters more interesting. Her mother, Asgorath is cool too but the idea behind Gruaghlothor and Sardior, or the lore from the old ass Dragon Magazines about how Tiamat as a hatching, slew one of her multi-headed sisters (who then became the first Dracolich and mated to Falazure in undeath) and injured another (who was the origin of Orange, Purple, and Yellow dragons) was always cooler to me than Tiamat proper. Fucking Purples in general are cool, a breath weapon of pure Slash damage is both bullshit and neat at the same time.

>>66738299
Have you purchased the Grimoire of Tiamat by Asenath Mason?

>>66739233
Not sure which is my favorite album, but "Wings of Heaven" is my favorite track.

>>66745247
She was originally LE, but they changed her to CE in 5th

>>66754351
>Grimoire of Tiamat
I had not! Definitely going to pick it up though. Thanks!

>>66754351
Speaking of the Grimoire, >>66750557 posted one of the drawings from it (page 177).

File: 1550885116519.png (368 KB, 800x867)

368 KB PNG

>>66754367
Which sucks because Gryx being the CE dragon god was always a fun nod.

File: 9D1B3884-7DEE-41C5-AA77-F(...).jpg (2.32 MB, 4032x3024)

2.32 MB JPG

>>66754429
It’s definitely an interesting read!

>>66754308
>Purples in general are cool, a breath weapon of pure Slash damage is both bullshit and neat at the same time.
I thought purple was fire/lightning damage

what if the tarrasque and tiamat met

>>66751644
There was some pseudo-ERP to it, minor but it contributed to what was the creation "myth" of the setting.

>>66750233
I liked how the DM handled it yeah. Only two beings left alive so default become the new gods. But I felt it was somewhat appropriate for Tiamat the entity to be like "God? I am not one god, I am all Gods!" and greedily become the closest thing to a monotheistic deity.

>>66755343
She'd cut it up into pieces until all those pieces regenerated into new Tarrasques. What follows is a gangbang of such ferocity and volume that a new lake of Tarrasque jizz is formed in the resulting crater.

>>66755081
>>66755081
I was referring to old ass Dragon Magazine shit. Irrelevant to nuD&D but to that end, I think the Dragon Compendium Vol. 1 still had a monster descriptor with Purples being Slash specific.

>>66754367
Funny enough
>DMG
>LE
>RoT
>CE

>>66755370
How did it wind up with just your character and Tiamat? I feel like it has to be an interesting story that results in that situation.

>>66730314
Because 80s had a superior culture

>>66756483
Because the campaign suddenly died, the group mostly just stopped showing up, she wrote off the setting in what was mostly just a random "THE END!" scenario and off the top of her head went with a gamma ray burst (physical, divine, and planar damage/destruction) that obliterated the world. Gods too because those not also killed outright by the disaster, faded to nothing without anything left alive or dead to have faith in them. Apparently she liked the finality of a fantasy setting coming to end just by some natural impartial occurance of the universe. But I stuck around and wanted to keep playing so she scrambled for a way to do something after the fact. She was going to try to come up with some way for my guy to survive so said to pick a god and we'd figure out how to continue from there. My character wasn't religious really so I just went with Tiamat because he had an idol of her in his possession (as treasure loot rather than for faith reasons) and the DM after some suprise and consideration got an evil smile.

After that it basically went Age of Sigmar a little where Tiamat hurtled through space almost dead and clinging onto my guy as the sheer-chance sole survivor of the disaster, keeping her "alive" simply by recognition. When eventually she came to rest and regained a sliver of cognition, that's when the chain of events began and they started getting to know one another and evaluate their situation, eventually coming to decide on creating a setting anew.

Overall the cause of this was admittedly pretty contrived, but it happened as a result of sudden campaign death anyway so it wasn't planned beforehand. It became more serious the more the DM realized some fun could be had with this continuation and the change in style of game. Interestingly enough when there was a next campaign with a group, it took place in the new setting.

>>66738331
Remind me, what exactly was her plan? How exactly she was going to use an Exile to kill the Force?

>>66739192
>https://imgur.com/a/sXkzx
You doing god's work here, son

>>66741526
You should back up such claims with pictures, anon.

>>66749237
/tg/ is better at being /v/ then /v/

>>66756741
Everything is better at being /v/ than /v/

>>66746316
Did they ever developed Tiamat cult beliefs?

>>66737854
>Star Wars
>Good

Pick one and only one

>>66709472
>evil witch
>violent warlord
>deity
>giant dragon
In one single package,basically you can use her in any way you want. She is super flexible.

File: 4feccc2167330c11a93661611(...).png (10 KB, 229x200)

10 KB PNG

>>66755375

File: Tiamat-OCR.pdf (6.28 MB, PDF)

6.28 MB PDF

>>66754429
No need to purchase that, here it is.
You could also google more stuff with this keywords.
Current 218, Kagiri Ushumgal, Ama-Ushumgal-Sumun-Tiamat.
But I warn you - it much, much, much darker stuff than this grimoire.

>>66709689
She is a goddess, she can look like whatever she want.

>>66759262
This is the type of thing I imagined a straight up sword and sorcery cult would be like. I would just have to finish it up with and underground temple with an idol lit by candles and the practitioners dressed in dark robes with hoods.

File: wallpaper_2560x1600 (11).jpg (2.92 MB, 2560x1600)

2.92 MB JPG

Tiamat is a Fiend, not a Dragon.

Just so you know.

File: fxJnoXO.jpg (101 KB, 800x291)

101 KB JPG

>>66761353
>Fiend
She's a Goddess

Why does Tiamat get all the love?
There is an entire draconic pantheon but no one ever pays any mind to old Falazure.

>>66709689
I'm AFB at the moment, but in the Faiths and Pantheon's book, the depiction of her is a slim, fair-skinned woman with black hair.

I think she's attractive, but hey, I like fair skin and black hair.

>>66762294
Tiamat and Bahamut are in the core books which means they're immediately in your face rather than having to go search the draconomicon to see for yourself if there are any others. When your choices are Tiamat and Bahamut not only does Tiamat look cooler, but she's also a villain which is more fun to use.

>>66761672
Well she did lair in the Nine Hells at one point.

>>66762294
Tiamat is the franchise mascot just like Scorpion is from Mortal Kombat.

File: nagash.jpg (149 KB, 439x593)

149 KB JPG

*blocks your path*
Pre-AoS Nagash was such a fucking cool villain, holy shit.

>>66751219
isn't tiamat basicaly a god?
like each of your party members is gonna have to be on the level hercules or merlin or whatnot

>>66748115
>bang her daughter?
Explain

>>66765026
>Explain
https://lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/Update%2058/
To be fair, it hasn't been confirmed as canon, but it just makes too much sense.

>>66709689
If I remember right she is the literal primordial goddess from sumerian myth who decided to go to fantasyland for one reason or another. With that in mind she can probably shapeshift at will both due to being a god, as well as a primordial entity older than the universe itself. Her true form is probably closer to that of Gaia from greek myth, as they are both primordial mother goddesses who went on to birth the rest of their pantheon.

>>66751219
You're not. Not without securing some major advantages. Tiamat as statted out in 5e at full power has a very good shot of wiping even a 20th level party, regardless of that party's composition.

>>66754367
I'mma go with PHB/DMG over Rise of Tiamat and assume that the RoT line is just a typo that Wizards is too lazy to correct.

>>66765241
If you have 2 optimized characters it goes down pretty easy. The Chad Paladin is a good example of someone who would fuck her in combat.

>>66709515
Hot. I want to impregnate a dragon until she lays than keep impregnating her the minute the eggs leave her vag. I want her to be my gravid stay at home broodmother.

There has been far less smut in this thread than I expected.

>>66766973
smut has no place on /tg/

>>66766973
>>66766995
I can see if I can dig up the Tiamat femdom/Bahamut feminization fics if you'd like?

>>66709472
Yawgmoth

>>66767005
nah I'm good thanks but I'll accept Bahamut with his canaries

>>66716171
Uhm... Isn't he evil-aligned? So his version of good, ie: evil is what is objectively good?
Meaning all that which destroys the traditional family unit is evil.

>>66759262
>Current 218
I'm reminded of this
https://youtu.be/ygt_zR9Asf8

>>66760001
Real life magicians provide great inspiration for that sort of thing. Especially if you're looking for a more low fantasy feel, where there's a heavy reliance on evocation and manipulating chance. I'm honestly surprised that we don't see more of /tg/ delving into /fringe/ material.

>>66765241
>Statting out a god
Jesus did they really do this? Gods are supposed to be statless and unkillable, at least by regular game rules.

>>66768658
Tiamat has been stat'd since like AD&D. Not even Asmodeus is beyond having stats.

>>66768796
Asmodeus, Asmodeus, Asmodeus
Asmodeus, Asmodeus, oh, oh, oh Asmodeus
Come and rock me Asmodeus
Asmodeus, Asmodeus, Asmodeus
Asmodeus, Asmodeus, Asmodeus
Asmodeus, Asmodeus, oh, oh, oh Asmodeus

>Asmodeus' true form was that of a hundreds of miles long wingless snake with scales.
>wingless snake with scales
So...a snake? The hell is this? I'm a wingless human with skin.

>>66768796
Those are just their avatars though right? I know divine avatars can be fought and even destroyed, but the gods themselves are hardly affected by this and sit far beyond the average party's capabilities.

>>66709689
Cute loli with five heads.

>>66756676
mass shadow generator send out a pulse across the galaxy. most everyone will die, but those that live will be free of the force

>>66737352
Anon do you have a discord

>>66771608
I do. FDWriter#9476

>>66769652
Depending on what stat block you're reading and in which edition, some are for the actual god(dess) and some are for avatars. 4e, for example, specifically had an "Avatar of Tiamat" and Tiamat herself. It also had specific details about how you could kill her for good.

cool design and fun personality

>>66769162
Good lad.

White Head best girl

>>66709515
Obligatory reminder that at least one version of Tiamat keeps a harem of female chromatic dragons she keeps perpetually pregnant with magical lesbian-spawn babies.

>>66718617
Isn't that just a shortstack? Like, seriously, how the fuck do those traits combine?

>>66719035
In fairness, having a high level warrior's abilities plus being a level 18 necromancer on top of being a vampire was WAY more impressive back in the days of AD&D.

>>66720676
Well, at least one version of her does fuck dragonborn champions who impress her enough, so I'd say her banging humanoids who do the same is on the table.

It kind of depends on if you're talking about AD&D Great Wheel Tiamat, who literally does not give a shit about anything except Chromatic Dragons, or World Axis Tiamat, who is more generally the Goddess of Greed and Wrath and Vengeance and thusly gives way more of a shit about stuff other than dragons.

>>66775133
Best diety

>>66775133
>Spare me I can't be that erect

>>66765601
I believe with tiamat it's more broodmother amazon.

>>66762294
Because most of the draconic pantheon are literally boring as shit "God of X, but for dragons!" gods, or otherwise have such specifically draconic niches that they don't matter to anyone other than dragons. Or they're just boring.

Y'know, the same reason nobody gives a shit about most of the various demihuman gods, like how dwarves have both Clangeddin Silverbeard and Haela Brightaxe.

It doesn't help at all that all the books that aren't 4e say that dragons are so arrogant that they don't really "do" religion, which limits the entire point of dragon deities.

Though >>66762492 makes a great point too.

>>66775251
>>66775291
Which is better?

Having a magical waifu who keeps a harem of pregnant girls she fills with her yuri-spawn, whilst deigning only to birth for you?

Or having a magical waifu who keeps a harem of girls she transfers the fruits of your lovemaking to, so they are kept perpetually pregnant with yours and her children, because she is so much above them?

Baba Yaga or Cthulhu

Far better than Tiamat or Vecna

>>66775495
Literally a pair of "you can't fight them, they win, game over" GM wankfodder NPCs. You might as well say Stone from Deadlands or Caine from Vampire the Masquerade are good villains by that measure.

Here's a hint: they're fucking not.

>>66775449
They’re both top tier options
But the second is the better of the two.

File: Transcendent_One_by_Serva(...).jpg (110 KB, 900x1021)

110 KB JPG

>>66709472
Pic related is the best /tg/ villain. He just wants to be left alone in his neet cave and doesn't care if his sheer existence damns the rest of the multiverse.

>>66709472
I prefer Takhisis.

>>66717947
I would feel so self-conscious if I was the black head. I'd be so worried I'd bump into the other heads with my horns.

>>66718290
The color theory autist in me wants the green head in the middle, with a green body, so that it goes black, blue, green, red, white.

>>66751219
You roll the dice

>>66775449
>>66777255
...Now I kind of want to write a smutfic along the lines of one of those options. Any anons got requests?

Or rejections to the pairing being Male (Trap) on Female Alpha with harem of pregnant Beta Females?

File: as_rance6-01.jpg (24 KB, 328x328)

24 KB JPG

>>66780641
I don't have a hard objection, but wouldn't Tiamat prefer a hypermasculine partner as being better breeding stock? Power is everything.
Though, I suppose an exception could be made if the trap were of an exceedingly powerful magical bloodline.