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>The dragons asks you to save his daughter the King who was kidnapped by a terrible fire-breathing princess.
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>>67088011
Is his daughter a dragon too?
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>>67088032
Eh, who knows. She may be adopted.
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Yeah yeah. This is just stupid complaints about stuff changing. My masterfully shopped image shows that it works just fine as long as the villain coding is applied.
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>>67088082
Is she hot?
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>>67088142
Are there non-hot females in fantasy unless they are old?
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>>67088134
In general I agree, but honestly that green dragon isn't very "villainous", in general. Even in the first image, he just looks awkward, like he's waiting for the chance to tell the knight he has the wrong guy, without being rude or interrupting him.
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>>67088169
Yeah. It's a kiddie tale dragon. Would need to be red and have more spikes to be an obvious villain.
So the soapbox art is bad, news at 11.
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>>67088160
Most of the peasants/lower classes, although some "scrub-up" ok.
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>>67088169
I'm sure that's not what the image means, but:
Originally, in European folklore, the dragon was not meant to be fearsome, it was meant to be pathetic. It was meant to show the evil forces of nature which are repugnant but powerless against the good of God-empowered man. Medieval dragons were hunched, small and gross.
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>>67088305
look at how terrified the fair maiden is.
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>>67088292

Sort of, they usually had special abilities like mesmerizing wings, venom, growing to unusual size, etc. For a knight to defeat them was a sign of accomplishment.
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>>67088292
Well. Depends on how far back one goes. And where one goes.
In Greek lore, they were fearsome guardians.
In Norse lore, they were the personification of greed or destruction.
And in Slavic lore, they were fucking weird.
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>>67088011

Who names thir daughter The King?
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>>67088341
Its not a name, its an occupation. She is a female king. No, not a queen. Female king.
Happened in history.
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>>67088341
Let's start with the fact that Kinga is a female Hungarian name.
It could be a Hungarian dragon.
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>>67088356
Hell, it is happening right now.
Queen Elizabeth is a Lord.
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>>67088398
Well, she's got more balls than her husband, her son and her grandsons combined.
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>>67088333
yep, this only applies to medieval Christian appropriation of dragons, not earnest continuations of earlier traditions.
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>>67088416
I ain't complaining.

>>67088426
One good Christian dragon myth is the one of the Tarrasque though.
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>>67088314
>Dude, come on, why did you kill my pet?
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>>67088314
>DUDE WTF I WAS JUST TAKING HIM FOR WALKIES
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>>67088292
It depends on the degeneracy of the current society. Dragons are weak, pathetic creatures when sin and degeneracy are scarce, but once these start plaguing society again, depictions of dragons become more fearsome and degenerate.
Our society is so backwards now, that modern art involving dragons is even sexual in nature.
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>some people are discussing the dragon
>some people are discussing female king
>no one at all is bothered by a terrible fire-breathing princess
See, that's exactly the type of problem I'm trying to illustrate here. We let half-demons and dragon people be heroes (wtf), and get equally idiotic villains.
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>>67088466
Not only sexy dragons. There is so much art right now that you can find a dragon that fits whatever idea you want about it.

Dragons are mostly awesome forces of nature, that's the most common portrayal.
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>>67088466
>that modern art involving dragons is even sexual in nature.
Holy shit you are retarded. You had to make your argumnent so hard that you decided to ignore all of these sexual depictions of dragons through ages since antique times
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>>67088466
this comment sure isn't internally consistent.
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>>67088440
>>67088314
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>>67088011
haha epic xD
Trope subverted xD
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>>67088506
>t.illiterate retard
Sexual depictions of animals and related creatures are prominent in cultures full of degeneracy and sin.
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>>67088478
Every princess knows how to be a terrible fire breather if you give them some oil and a lighter. It's a rare princess that makes a great fire breather.
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>>67088589
Why do you think she kidnapped the dragon? She wants to learn from the best.
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>>67088478
I was just coming to that part.

>>67088589
>Every princess knows how to be a terrible fire breather if you give them some oil and a lighter. It's a rare princess that makes a great fire breather.
I can make any lady of the realm breathe fire without the aid of oil, lighters, or magic...
...I simply tell her that her dress *DOES* make her look fat.

BA DUM TIS
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>>67088568
they are also common in medieval illuminations, which are the societies which have meek, weak dragons. Both cannot be accurate predictors you very smart boy.
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>>67088568
Get off your high horse, i can smell the capital sin of pride from here.
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How powerful is that evil knight if they have to send a dragon to try and fight him?
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>>67088942
It might be that the dragon chose to do it on it's own, just to prove that dragons, in fact, kill knights.
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>>67088169
Same is with the black knight, he's just standing in the middle of not!Mordor and being cross about some white dragon pointing at him
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>>67088525
that's because of those evil dragons, dude
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>>67088990
He also has horns, and red eyes. He's clearly villain coded.
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>>67088689
rekt lol
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>>67089001
So does the green dragon
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>>67088314
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>>67088011
>his daughter the King
I could have sworn Merlin trained her better.
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>>67088292
Giant rabbits and snails are obviously the real threats.
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>>67088292
>>67088466
You are an idiot.
Dragon signifies the greatness of humanity's aspirations.
Vikings and Greek sailed all the known world, waged great wars, were great in war and art. Their dragons were fearsome, though primitive.

Middle ages were the time of small-minded, god-fearing people, who fought their small feudal wars with no high ideal behind them. Their dragons were pathetic.

Today's humanity dreams and plans far beyond anyone that came before. We envision dragons that are like forces of nature or gods.
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>>67088466
You could've done many things today and yet you chose this
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>>67089342
>This entire post
Support your claims
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>>67088466
hey can i guess that you are either a fashist or something that is being a fashist but you are in denial? just a hunch
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>>67089372
What claims? That greek and vikings were great mariners and created kingdoms far and wide? That's common knowledge.

That middle ages in Europe (where there were pathetic dragons) were time of small-minded thinking and feudal fragmentation? That's common knowledge.

That we push boundaries of science and technology further than ever before, bar, maybe, the space race era? Just look around.

That you're an idiot? One just needs to read your posts to see that.
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>>67088466
Based, I bet you’re catholic. 10/10 would stand at your side in the coming war brother
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>>67089396
>believing in the "dark ages" meme
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>>67089448
They weren't dung ages, but they weren't a time of enlightenment and lofty aims either. Europeans stood with both feet on the ground and looked at the ground too, instead of looking up.

Arabs were the thinkers and idealists of the time, but they don't have dragons, so they don't matter.
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>>67089396
>an age that sees the university system created and established
>small-minded thinking

at least read babby's first world history before you embarass yourself
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>>67089506
>universities of the time focus on law, religion, and other things that limit and neuter humanity
>all major discoveries in fields of medicine, natural history, astronomy, major works of poetry and architecture, are made by towelhead sandniggers at the time

Philosophy was the only thing where medieval Europe matched the arabs, and still most of it was scholastic nonsense.
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>>67089396
The Greeks and Vikings were a divided and feudalistic society too, anon. The Greeks were great philosophers, but the Romans had them beat in military and in rule of law, where they stood united against the loose and disorganized Greek city-states.
As for the Vikings? They lived in even shittier conditions with corrupt kings who filled their coffers with gold they acquired from raids, with hundreds of small kingdoms rising and falling because land in Scandinavia is cold and shit that the only choices they had was to either try and farm poor arable land or raid other people.
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>>67088466
is being a reactionary shitter now what kids do on the internet?
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>>67089687
You do realize viking raids only happened because of overpopulation, that was made available by surplus of food in the first place. Scandinavia was never actually starving.
And they actually valued word and honour, without need for paper documents.

I guess you should look up what feudalism means. Greek city-states were independent, had neither vassals nor sovereigns.

I never looked much into Roman mythology, so what do I know? Maybe they had better dragons than Greek. They should, judging by their awesome empire.
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>>67089396
Yikes
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>>67089486
>Arabs were the thinkers and idealists of the time
*steal everything from Persians and Indians*
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>>67089796
You forgot Aristotle
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>>67089342
>dragons, as a fictional type of thing, have a metaphysically determined purpose

>>>/x/
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>>67088466
...Jordan Peterson, is that you?
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>>67089843
hm? you sure you intended to reply to me?
what I meant is
>As a major fictional archetype, dragons are symptomatic of a culture's cultural state and imagination
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>>67088466
>unironically using words "sin" and "degeneracy"
ahahahahaha
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>>67088292
>t. never read actual medieval literature
The dragon in Tristan and Isolde was so lethal Tristan almost died just by holding onto its tongue after killing it. Though maybe he shouldn't have put it in his pants.
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>>67088466
No, dragon is a metaphor for hygiene.
Norse bathed at least once a week and changed clothes often.
Greek bathed often, swam in the sea, etc.
Slavs (who also had huge terrible serpents in myths) bathed very often as well.

Medieval people, while not covered in shit as many people imagine, still bathed very rarely.

We have very developed hygiene, shower every day or every two days, change clothes and underwear often, have a lot of hygienic products.
Our dragons are most majestic and terrible of all times.
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>>67088466
No, dragon is a metaphor for naval dominance.
Norse sailed all the sea, crossed the Atlantic.
Greek had a massive kickass fleet.

Medieval people had rather shitty boats and didn't sail very far.

We have very developed ships, submarines, aircraft carriers.
Our dragons are most majestic and terrible of all times.
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>>67089935
>>67089955
Top kek.
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>>67088314
Tbf, a lot of medieval art rarely showed much emotion. There are a lot paintings where one or more characters are comically stoic while some horrible shit is going on.
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>>67088466
>He things that wanting to fuck a dragon is a new concept
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Dragons are iconic antagonistic creatures that represent that which men hate and must destroy in order to better oneself. Dragons should always strictly be evil or at least neutral mindless creatures that only exist to destroy or as an apex predator.
Any changes to this tried and true formula just results in cringe. The only people who like that shit are furfags.

The Asian dragons are evil too, they just put on a friendly act sometimes. It's the same way that all pagan gods and goddesses are just fallen angels and most of them are working for Satan. Chinese dragons are even said to have had antlers like stags which is a major and common feature of the Serpent/Baphomet creatures worshipped by Satanists.

In all cultures a flying snake comes and says "look at me - I'm God" and then demands human sacrifice. Be it a dragon, Quetzalcoatl, the Chinese dragons, the serpent of the garden, Python, Set. This is the Enemy of Man.
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>>67089935
>Medieval people, while not covered in shit as many people imagine, still bathed very rarely.
They bathed regularly. Baths were rare.
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>>67089935
>>67089955
>>67089342
No, dragon is a metaphor for dentistry
Norse knew how to pull bad teeth and apply local anesthesics, see Bluetooth.
Greek has superb dentistry an dissed sea water rinses orally.
Medieval people, while not completely toothless many people imagine, still had no real access to dentistry.
We have very developed oral hygiene, brush twice a day or not, floss, and use mouth wash often, have a lot of orthodontic products.
Our dragons are most majestic and terrible of all times.
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>>67088341

Elvis
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>>67088292
Really? Blue Ben would have been around the size of a cart horse or bigger.
The dragon of bignor hill could circle round said hill
Vortigern has two dragons under his castle that routinely wrecked his walls with their fighting.
The all dragons used to be pathetic is just a revisionist meme, based on commissions from the church that decreed evil never be portrayed as greater than good.
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>>67088169
If that's the case, maybe the dragon is female and the white dragon in the bottom picture is their lovechild sent to free their homeland from the tyrants who took over in the knight's absence.
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>>67088314

All dragon mummies should be hanged.
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>>67091082
>he says, when Quetzalcoatl was the only non-Blood-God those people had and was genuinely the greatest ally of Mankind
>he says, when if not for his shapeshifting dragon-horse, Xuanzang would never have made it to retrieve the scrolls
>he says, when the purpose of a given shenlong was to bring the rain for the crops
>he says, when the actual mythological Tiamat did nothing wrong and was only trying to avenge her murdered mates
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>>67088556
Ya need to make haste back to that red dit
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>That middle ages in Europe (where there were pathetic dragons) were time of small-minded thinking and feudal fragmentation?
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>law, religion, and other things that limit and neuter humanity
>he thinks this
>he doesn't know cathedrals, flying buttresses and more
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This is utterly retarded...

Dragons originated in a common, or maybe a little family, of methapors that evolved since the first times of the humanity. In they most primitive aparitions, the dragon, or maybe is better say, the serpent, is an embodyment of the world and the nature; is the eternal renovation, always manifesting it through his ever-changing skin.

In european folklore de dragon, now satanized by the world-abolisionism of christianity (because the creation in the christian cosmovision is corrupted, and will only be freed in the Second Coming) is seen as a simbolism for the devil, and the most primitive regenerative simbolism, and even the later chaos symbolism fruit of the warrior society mindset, slowly fade away to give space for the new meaning, that is, as an embodyment of greed.

The dragons have not a single meaning; they vary widely between cultures.
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Whose stupid idea was it to classify dragon and most importantly western drake and eastern long as the same thing?
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>>67092097

ur mum lmao
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>>67089396
It's insanity. The sheer level of disrespect you have to retain for centuries old, civilization building religion demonstrates narcissism at its peak.

Head on a pike for you cunts.
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>>67088011
>the fire-breathing princess asks you to kidnap a dragon for her father
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>The heroes ask the princess to save their daughter the dragon who was kidnapped by a terrible fire-breathing king.
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>>67091822
nah you do fag
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>>67088292
Depends...Even with Christian lore they were different in various regions.

Old slavic lore had them as nearly unstopable forces of nature that gift humans with trials and those that survive them become powerful individuals gifted with either unnatural strenght or magic.
They were serpentine quadriped monsters created by the brother of the allmaker... him self being a cross between a bear and a giant snake.

Christian Slavic myths ramped up their trialmaster aspect and merged them with Satan...
Basically dragons are avatars of Satan testing the hearts of Christians. The faithful and good are rewarded while the evil are lured in and punnished.
They got the whole 6 limbed huge dragon that shapeshifts and spews magic going.

Latin myth had the dragons as vermin as you describe it and Christianity in France, Italy, Spain maintained that image.

Northern europe turned them into giant sea behemoths and also maintained that image well into their Christian era.
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>>67092097
European Dragons were kinda the same before Christianity.

And that isn't to say that the chinks don't have a 6 limbed dragon with a lion like body... Pi Xue the treasure eating dragon with a body covered in scarlet scales, serpentine neck and tail, eagle like wings and lion like body.

And even for Wyverns there's a paralel in their wind god depictions.

Allmost all mythical draconic or serpentine monstrosities (excluding Australia and sub-Saharian Africa) can be traced back to some myth that seems to have spread from a now extinct culture that lived near the Karakorum mountains.
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>>67088416
>QEII
>balls

lmao that useless bitch doomed the UK to a nightmarish future
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>>67094487
>insulting are Liz
over the line
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Boy, I can't wait until commercially viable AR and/or animatronic dragons become real. Then we can all LARP with our own interpretation of dragons and argue our case as to why ours is the only correct way to treat dragons alongside our dragons.
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>>67095169
That Webm is beautiful. Morbidly obese, gravity-stunted individuals start by looking helpless, but slowly try their best to help someone. At the end two protect the children from being squished into the mass by making a craddle with their bodies.
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>>67095274
It's Pixar, man. They aren't going to paint humans as all bad, even humans who have been babified by centuries of space and ersatz Wal-Mart.
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>>67088466
You are correct, and the furfags replying to you are the agents of hell, knowingly or unknowingly.
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>>67088942
Only one way to find out...
::presses headset button::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXTdL4Jwvc

>>67089828
The smoldering ruins of the Library of Alexandria say hi
I don't want to say they didn't invent anything original...but everything they have looks suspiciously like something looted from someone else.

>>67092445
>>the fire-breathing princess asks you to kidnap a dragon for her father
Sorry princess, but your dragon is in another castle!
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>>67088292
Probably because bullying something pathetic isn't very exciting or heroic without the religious symbolism.
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>>67088430
The Tarrasque is interesting if only because it's a story about purity and faith winning without the need of violence, more than it is a story of the Christian spirit crushing evil.
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>>67089396
Modern scholarship has entirely destroyed the narrative that the Middle Ages were backwards in a general sense. They lost some things from the Romans, and were disunited enough that building large scale projects was difficult, but they also developed technology in several ways over the Romans.
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>>67091049
>that queen with itty-bitty titties and drill hair
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>>67088466
Everyone that responded to this comment with hostility is actually scared shitless at the reality of our world.

You better pray for a place in the heavenly host. The final war is coming.
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>>67088134
>coding
the fact you use the term "coding" at all shows that you're a faggot whose opinions aren't worth listening to.
>term was never used on /tg/
>suddenly, tumblr purge begins
>start seeing it more and more
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>>67095169
>>67095274
>>67095305
I fucking love that movie. The humans are likeable. The robots are likeable. The main characters are likeable. It's a shame the villain was a little flat. I also thoroughly believe if something like the movie ever happened there would be a small group of /fit/izens running around the ship, showing off their gains.
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>>67096864
>Tfw you realize the space people of the future will call the 21st century a second dark age because all our scientists were too busy learning to make passable traps and trying to prove cow farts were melting the ice caps.
What a backwards, ignorant superstitious lot.
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>>67088466
Damn, I never thought of it like that.
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>>67088134
These all can work
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>>67088466
Imagine having a worldview so warped that you try to associate the traits of fictional creatures with "cultural degeneracy".
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>>67096933
>everyone who disagree with me actually know that im right

Wow you truly are a master of argumentation
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>>67097701
Problem is, the reduced gravity made gainz impossible. That's a future too horrifying to comprehend.
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>>67097009
>outing yourself as a newfag
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>>67096933
The fact that shits like you are allowed to use the fruits of our labour is a little disconcerting, yes.
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>The Royal Jester hires the party to get the King, the Dragon and the Princess all in a room together to talk it out
>even he thinks the joke has gone on for too long.
>also both he and the court arent even sure who they're the court OF any more, and would appreciate you working out who the King even is any more
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>>67098431
>trying to prove cow farts were melting the ice caps.
this is incredibly easy to prove, you don't have to expend significant time doing that. You yourself could establish that to your own satisfaction using nothing but two green houses and a bit of methane.
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>>67095353
he literally cannot be correct by virtue of saying two mutually exclusive things
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>>67101632
No, not that guy but he isn't wrong. I've been on /tg/ for fucking ages and this is the first time I can remember seeing anyone use that tumblrspeak crap.
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>>67091082
Flying snakes in Slavic and Baltic mythology were signs of fortune, fertility, prosperity and were best friends to humans....
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>>67088011
I think it's more amusing to try and make this work within its own context than try to chide it for being subversive.
>The dragons asks you to save his daughter the King
We got a gang leader of the Dragons here by the name of King who has a mafia princess daughter who shares his surname...
>who was kidnapped by a terrible fire-breathing princess
Oh God, it's a fucking custody case. Let's just say that this daughter was taken home by her bitch of a mother who was the daughter of the Dragons' former leader.
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>>67101861
Something I've always wanted to do is the idea that all dragons are actually angels, and Satan just ruined it for everyone else with wings.
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>>67091049
LIZARD'D
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>>67088314
>two legs, two wings
Fuck off with this supposed realism, it's goddamn fantasy. Biologists shouldn't illustrate this stuff if they're going to get up their ass about it.
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>>67101516
>Problem is, the reduced gravity made gainz impossible. That's a future too horrifying to comprehend.
that's mostly because those colony ships weren't designed for long term living, they were meant to be occupied for only a couple years, not the centuries upon centuries that did happen, it's honestly amazing how good of condition the ship was by that point
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>>67088011
>No adventurer, you are the princess
>And then john was a gorgon
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>>67088292
Pretty sure that dragons in folklore predate christianity
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>>67088416
Stfu Prince Charles is based
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>>67101918
Even satan is nice. In Bible he is quite a nice dude, while devils from most world regions are kinda nice or just tricksters, like I mentioned baltic myths - in Baltic mythology devil is basically a god of justice who revives people killed by betrial and rewards poor with gold.

Basically all subversion crap people complain about is what Christianity did.
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>>67089342
based
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>>67102523
As much as an empty place can be based.
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>>67102541
>In Bible he is quite a nice dude

Someone got kaise soze'd

...hard
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>>67089342
You know that Vikings lived in the Middle Ages?
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>>67103159
I don't know in Greek version (A.K.A closest we got to original) he never really does anything worse then what God does.
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>>67103433
>I don't know in Greek version (A.K.A closest we got to original) he never really does anything worse then what God does
You reading the same Bible? Or you got some jefferson, cut out the parts you didn't like edition?
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>>67103541
I don't know I find him not evil per say since I noticed some translation errors later on did come up hard.
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>>67088466
Based, checked and breadpilled.
You are a good lad, and I will pray for you.
Degenerate hoes mad.
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>>67088302
"You're bleeding because you don't floss."
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>>67103575
>per say
Ah, there's the problem.

Like I said, you've been kaiser soze'd.

...hard.

You can't walk away from a reading of the Bible and see on one side the God who created the universe, humanity, etc and sought to establish a relationship with them (up them their choice).

On the other side, you have bitter flunky who hates that he couldn't get top slot, so he decides to stick it to God by taking everyone down with him that he possibly can.
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>>67103816
Well, some interpretations of Satan/Lucifer/Devil is that the whole 'fallen angel' story was some kind of con, in reality the Adversary is in league with God.
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>>67103816
>you have bitter flunky who hates that he couldn't get top slot
what bible have you been reading? Where's that said?
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>>67088466
Check'd and basedpilled
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>>67089734
>Scandinavia was never actually starving.
We know for a fact it did. A lot. The Vik was the option for desperate and desolate. They were literally highwaymen gangs with longships.

>>67089396
> That greek and vikings were great mariners and created kingdoms far and wide?
What are "greeks and vikings"? Hellas was unified only for scant years and Alexander, before and after that it was a bunch of slavering city states that were not at war with each other only for tiny-ass periods when there was a common outer threat. Philosophy? Reminder that the Athenian democracy ordered the execution of Socrates and exile of Plato, and Aristotle had had enough of this shit and emigrated to Canada Macedonia to be a private teacher.

Vikings were not a society, they were gangs of murderhobos despised by the very Scandinavian societies that they came from. The very societies that spend a lot more time warring among themselves than conquering anything beyond the seas.

>Greek city-states were independent, had neither vassals nor sovereigns.
Urm, Athens was the only Hellenic polis that maintained a democracy for a noticeable amount of time and STILL it was repeatedly severed with periods of tyranny. The rest were oligarchies or straight up monarchies. Corinth, Sparta, Argos, Thebes and Megara all very much had sovereigns. You do remember who Leonidas was, right?
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>>67104234
Oh and on the subject of philosophy - reminder that Plato has declared democracy to be the lowest and worst form of government possible, and despised Athenian democracy with a passion, seeing the oligarchies of neighboring states as much more just and wise.
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>>67104234
>The Vik was the option for desperate and desolate. They were literally highwaymen gangs with longships.

But in the sagas of the icelanders (but also in the volsong saga to some extent), going viking is often shown as something for young lads to do to prove themselves, or for a real badass to do in his downtime.

Was the vik romanticized in hindsight?
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>>67089071
no no no, THIS daughter of the king
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>>67104272
>But in the sagas of the icelanders (but also in the volsong saga to some extent), going viking is often shown as something for young lads to do to prove themselves
Well, yeah - because they were not the eldest sons, and thus could expect exactly Jack and Shit of their father's land for inheritance.

>Was the vik romanticized in hindsight?
No, they were romanticized from the get-go because they were written BY vikings themselves or commissioned by them.
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>>67104234
You're confusing monarchy with feudalism.
Go read up and come back.
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>>67104358
And you're playing semantics.
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>>67104411
No, I'm not.
CIty-states were not fragmented into a bunch of domains with separate rulers and complex webs of vassals and sovereigns, which undermined the effectiveness of feudal society.
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all your dragons are shit.
the Babylonians had dragon gods who could see in every direction and control the weather and one of them was so large the entire fucking cosmos was made out of her carcass.
modern dragons are fucking pussies just like all you queers.
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>>67104469
>CIty-states were not fragmented into a bunch of domains with separate rulers and complex webs of vassals and sovereigns, which undermined the effectiveness of feudal society.
Because they already WERE said domains with separate rulers. Feudal society is the next step from there - it's those domains unified under a single ruler, with part of the power being delegated to his subordinates.
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>>67088466
>all these (you)s
Damn these sinner furfags sure burn at the truth. Keep up the good fight, brother.
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>>67104499
They would be feudal if there was a King of Greece as common sovereign. But there wasn't. So it was not feudal.
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>>67104483
People who can't build one lousy tower and become famous only for some shitty garden don't qualify.
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>>67104541
>if there was a King of Greece as common sovereign
Am I a joke to you?
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>>67104582
The cities were no longer sovereign in any capacity at that point though, no?

Also yes, you're a joke, literal gaylord.
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>>67088506
>you decided to ignore all of these sexual depictions of dragons through ages since antique times
Can I get some of those for...fact checking purposes.
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>>67091082
>>67091723
>he says, when Set is never depicted as reptilian or serpentine, and despite being a god of chaos and disorder he aids Ra against the giant fucking snakedemon Apep
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>>67104469
Athens definitely was my dude.
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>>67104725
Hm, okay, I need to brush up on Greek history

Literal gaylord leaves the city of literal pederasts a high degree of autonomy. Gaylord.
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>>67089935
>>67089955
>>67089342
>>67091193
No, dragon is a metaphor for divorce
Norse had established laws for a woman to eschew her husband
Greek had rampant philandering, buggery, and their head of the gods was constantly cheating on his wife
Medieval people, while not totally without a legal system, still had no way to annul a marriage until after the Reformation.

We have very developed legal systems, over half of American marriages end in divorce, children having two homes is common, have a lot of step-parents and step-children

Our dragons are most majestic and terrible of all times.
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>>67104933
red and basedpilled
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>>67088011
>The Russian veteran asks you for change
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>>67088011
Furries have done so much damage to the RP landscape it's quickly becoming unfixable.
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>>67104529
Stop samefagging anon, especially when you are on scalie board.
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>>67088466
>"Your Highness, I know it's a bit late to say anything, but does the King really have to watch us from the closet like that?"
>"Oh, don't be such a stick in the mud. He likes that kind of thing-don't you, my King?"
>"Indeed! Continue the fine work, dragon!"
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>>67097009
>I am outraged at the notion that visual and behavioral traits can be used to signify character
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>>67102541
>In Bible he is quite a nice dude
Did you even read the book of Job? He personally crippled Job and killed his family members to try to prove a point to God.
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>>67106474
yeah but an opposing force told God that he couldn't.
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>>67091873
>monasteries so isolated most libraries only contain books by around five different authors, whose works are fragmented and mashed together
>large-minded
this used to be bait but people actually believe this shit now
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>>67088466
Can anyone tell me why this is getting so many angry replies? What's actually wrong with it? Just remove the charged parts and the statement becomes: "Dragons were portrayed as anti-society, and were defeated. Now, as a subversion of this, dragons are portrayed as humanized, good, and sexual. This can be drawn to parallel the trend of post-modern society to criticize the traditional moral system that was portrayed by medieval artwork, which can reflect a destructive tendency to erode the systems which form the foundations of society." This is the same statement, I just didn't insult you. Is it really that odd?
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>>67106705
This thread is full of dragons, that's what.
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>>67106705

>What's actually wrong with it?
>Just remove the charged parts

You've answered your own question.
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>>67106747
I wouldn't expect a statement to get so many replies if it was entirely based off the fact that it called people degenerates. "Degenerate" makes the top 5 of the site, among cuckold, fag and roastie, so why's it super effective in this instance?
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>>67106799

I guess unlike most uses of those terms, this one fit in with the point he was making which made it sound a little less like some retard off /pol/ trying to start shit. Granted, not much less, but apparently enough.
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>>67088134
Is this Loss?
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>>67088292
Have you ever read ANYthing about ancient dragons? Any Greek texts? Roman texts? Norse texts? Indian texts? Fucking even Hittite texts? It was pathetic to the god that defeated one, but to the people, it was a great blight of which they could not remove.
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>>67107186
>>67088426
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Rescue the dragon's daughter.
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Imagine an order of Catholic monks, sworn to celibacy and poverty, and partly or wholly composed of dragons.
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>>67107299
>Imagine an order of Catholic monks, sworn to celibacy and poverty, and partly or wholly composed of dragons.
Christianity is exclusively for humans though
>inb4
shoo, Bergoglio
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>>67088134
>Fire emblem
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>>67107554
Are you saying the Lord cannot grant forgiveness to non-humans for their sins?
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>>67088416
True, though that tells us more about the average British male in CURRENT YEAR than their queen.
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>>67107291
Draggin' the daughter's rescue
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>>67090947
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>>67098431
Farmer detected
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>>67088011
The bottom panel should just be the top panel, but the dragon is full-on furry degeneracy.

like as a joke.

Haha.
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You won't like how dragons are treated in the last setting I read.
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>>67097009
Coding yourself as a smoothbrain pretty hard there anon, cringe
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>>67088341
The father was an elf so their daughter was a bit elvis.
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>>67103850
>Well, some interpretations of Satan/Lucifer/Devil is that the whole 'fallen angel' story was some kind of con, in reality the Adversary is in league with God.
None in the actual book itself. Key word there being "interpretation." You have to ignore most of what's in the actual Bible itself to get that interpretation.

>>67104074
>what bible have you been reading? Where's that said?

"And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven."
Revelation 12:7-8, NIV

Jesus Himself alludes to having seen satan fall like lighting (a past event) in Luke 10:18. And there are other instances referring to the fall of satan and his rebellion against God in the Bible.

So, satan goes about trying to corrupt, pervert and otherwise trying to subvert God's creation, from Eden onwards.
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>>67104296
God damn it.... sauce?
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>>67113099
Are you sure about that, anon? You wouldn't want to just openly admit to fapping to my dojuin, right?
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>>67113138
the beauty of anonymous Tibetan tapestry circle... GIVE ME THE SAUCE!
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>>67113189
Anon, it's in the first image, right behind her, in four, big bold words.
I'm not kidding.
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>>67113138
Mikoyan?
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>>67113214
>he still thinks I'm asking to source the image

Your sauce is much creamier
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>>67104234
Vikings weren't hated. They were considered a valuable pressure valve to deal with too many young men and not enough land to go around. Those young men brought back slave and plunder, they were praised and earned their keep. Those young men died, then at least their parents don't need to feed them through the cold winter and they were guaranteed to go to the heaven equivalent. Those young men managed to actually conquer new land like the ancestors of the Normans? Then hot damn son, you struck it big because now we have somewhere nice to send all of our young sons where there's food and we won't be freezing our dicks off most of the year.
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>>67091085
>>67089935
Medieval people bathed in public bathouses like the Romans whenever possible until around the Black Plague, then private bathing became more popular. It was only in the early modern period that the idea that bathing was bad for you kicked up, and it died in the Victorian era (except they still thought washing your hands was a spooky, that created a big hygiene problem as the medical field advanced.)
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>>67107993
What historical event is this
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>>67088011
>ftfy
No need to thank me
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>>67115438
Talked about this over in the recent werewolf thread. Unless the dragon could turn itself into a humanoid form, and tone down its physical strength, such an physical encounter would leave the dragon with a "cleanup in the bedroom" scenario.

Unless the point was death by snusnu.
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>>67104296
That's clearly the King's son.
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>>67107580
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>>67107554
>catholicism
>christianity
Sorry to burst your bubble Giovanni but your idolatry and illegitimate papacy will be the first to the torch when judgement day comes.
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>>67116734
Bite me ya fookin heretic
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>>67116747
>rejecting papism is heresy
heretic
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The Protestant Reformation was driven by greed and the only thing it did was destroy centuries of good, honest tradition that united communities and made the common citizen feel part of something greater than themselves. All you got with Protestants (or Prots, as I like to call them) were witch hunts, raving fanatics and demagogues.
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>>67116815
Martin Luther was right, and the church even acknowledged this later in the council of Trent.
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>>67116783
For the sake of preventing thread clutter, I will assume that we're going to exchange extensive, elaborate insults and arguments with each other like those in >>67116815. SO let's just skip to the end of that.
>>67115438
This is the more accurate modern situation.
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>>67116780
Sure, looks harmless...until you go swimming.
Look at the flippers on that thing!
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>>67113352
Germ Theory was widely hated by doctors who felt offended at the thought that they were spreading disease.
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>>67107291
THat dragons ass is phat as fuck
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>>67088466
I can't believe this got so many replies. What happened to not taking the bait?
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>>67117570
We live in a society that is easily provoked. That's all.
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>>67101861
This actually. Because most snakes were nonpoisonous and took care of pests they were seen as a sign of good fortune in ancient Lithuania, people would even put bowls of warm milk for snakes to drink and after Christianity came crosses were made to look like snakes
This idea that snakes and goats are somehow evil on metaphysical level is nonsense, they were seen as evil due to being harmful and eventually they were made to symbolize it
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>>67117647
Ya snakes to Baltic people were what cats were to Egyptians just a bit less dickish.
So ya dragons could be non evil of course if they are ones who get rid of all the bad shit bothering humans.
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>>67117647
RULES OF NATURE!
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>>67117647
>after Christianity came crosses were made to look like snakes
No, that was due to Brazen Serpent from Old Testament.
Actually, that motif is still used in crosiers
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>>67116342
>Implying any of that is a negative
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>>67088341
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>>67113214
Ok. So is this like an actual herm, or just a girl with a dildo that was raised like a boy.
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>>67116342
DR to bludgeoning damage
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>>67113214
>>67104296
Fucking Mortred, let me ascend you, I want you naked
REEEEEE
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>>67089283
NANI
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>>67113214
The art is really good. It's just a shame I don't like futa.
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Our civilization is going to be sent back to the stone age soon anyway thanks to all the war hungry bastards in the world's governments not giving a shit about defending the planet from a meteor or asteroid impact. It's coming soon and we'll go the way of Atlantis, becoming a myth in a couple thousand years, most of the relics of our culture attributed to later peoples who will inhabit them.

So, since nothing matters anyway, fuck a dragon today!
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>>67117049
I dunno, look at its face, its about as goofy as you can get
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>>67116783
>i reject the orthodoxy set down by the early church fathers
>but still i think myself not a heretic despite the literal definition
SOMEBODY CALL THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
WE'VE GOT A HERETIC
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>>67109463
very good post
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>>67088011
>bitter old fashioned dragon dad is upset his daughter ran off to get some human dick
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>>67122877
Herm

>>67124563
I know, right? The whole dojuin is in color too, it's great.



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