>>67345810
Current map of the Isles.

Middle and eastern Kingdoms are Warwick, Leicestershire, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Suffolk, and Oxfordshire.

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>>67345841
>>67345810
Current map of the Isles.

Middle and eastern Kingdoms are Warwick, Leicestershire, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Suffolk, and Oxfordshire.

>>67345841
The first Earl of Warwick was actually the mayor at the time, so that would mean the area is relatively unharmed from the war and Zones.
It also appears to be one of the kingdoms able to push into a zone instead of just border it.

Last thread linked more normally
>>67247308

It was said that Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridgeshire had the expansion of the Great London Zone heading their way, whilst they were very unprepared for it

>>67345855
>The general sense of friendly competition, which one dominated the universities of Oxford and Cambridgeshire has expanded to also cover the nations that formed around these institutions. The boat race remains, an honoured fragment of pre-ruin tradition, but is accompanied by a variety of other annual events, from tourneys to mock sieges to the ever popular Great Glean. Such events are never truly meant to harm or aid either party, but are considered harmless pastimes by most. That said there is a certain political element to such games, mostly internal as they are. Politicians/Noble-folk who support, join and generally aid victorious teams can find themselves enjoying a period of popularity, whilst though who aid or participate in losing teams can face a degree of disdain from their peers. Over all however, it is a friendly relationship more opposed to those who interrupt their little games than those they compete against.

>>67345810
Here's a link to the doc. It's not got much info on it, but what it has might give a little extra context to the nations we're talking about.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cDqaDJykx2hYP3gO3wNrknAajH5yyWKePk47ZFdkKqw/edit?usp=drivesdk

>>67348892
There are also several threads not tagged under Radon and Raiders, starting with the cavalry thread.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66124873
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66202771
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66255181
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66288903
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66321936
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66379684
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66435735
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/66458350
There is a lot!

>>67349358
That’s why I just linked the archive overall normally, it’s obvious which ones aside from the cavalry thread are these

>>67347595
It still has a way to go before it reaches the border. So they would have enough warning to prepare the defenses.

>>67349439
True, but it will eventually be pushed out by new threads.

>>67347692
Good to see the two collages are still on friendly terms with each other.

>>67349558
Yeah, though it’s more the beasts coming out in their direction that will be doing the damage, and those groups are at medieval level tech it seems, so it’s going to be quite a mess

>>67349358
Needs to add a mention of a strong desire for the USE to send a fleet across the Atlantic to re-establish communication with the USA, and the possibility of survivors in Cheyenne.

>>67350046
They do have their fair share of beasts from the Swamp. Though it is nowhere near the amounts that the USKS face, or even Kernow.
Most of what the eastern kingdoms face are small packs or singular beasts. Most of them can be safely taken out with swords and axes.

>>67350062
Of the three ships for the expedition, two of them need new components and fuel to be repaired and the third needs to be loaded with supplies.
The quest would require the players to have either brave the deepest Zones to find the materials for the engines and fuel, or be highly skilled at making trade deals to buy the needed materials from other kingdoms.

>>67350426
Kernow and the USKS have big dedicated defensive lines against their neighbouring zones, and the weapons to arm them
The previous idea with the eastern kingdoms was for a big oncoming scrap of medieval level armies against hordes of zone-beasts

>>67351292
Zone beasts aren’t too smart thanks to the radiation. If they attack people, they go after the closest they can find. That’s why the USKS still has to fight them off, even though they should know better by now.
The one beast that would be a massive threat to the eastern kingdoms is the Dragon of the Swamp. It is smart enough to avoid the great guns of the USKS line to the south, and would be fairly devastating to the unprepared armies to the north.

An attack on the eastern kingdoms would probably be what leads the players into the London Swamp.

>>67351541
Most zone creatures are by no means smart, but some major zones are capable of just spewing them out in a certain direction, much like the apocalyptic days of the fall
The USKS have dedicated defence lines of big guns and good weaponry, a similar situation applies to the troops on Hadrians wall

>>67351761
Hadrian’s wall is less armed than the USKS border since a large portion is on the border of Northumbria and Edinburgh.
It’s main focus is going agains what come out of the small Hadrian zone.
Don’t let it’s apparent small size fool you, for it is a zone of spacial distortions and therefor much bigger inside than it is outside. A soldier once walked in the south end in protective gear and came out the north a full five days later. It has this been found to be a kind of safe haven for many of the more dangerous beings of the north.

>>67346221
Warwick also has some industrial capabilities. Not as much as the Isle of Man, but enough that the other kingdoms of the area can rely on them for materials to maintain their guns.

Aside from the major powers about in the midlands, there were other minor groups such as Harold the Mad slowly turning his keep into a new zone after using so much radioactive waste as a siege weapon, and those territorial tunnel-dwellers

>>67353144
That place could be very useful in finding out just how zones are formed. And if one knows how something is formed, one can get an idea on how to undo it.
Wouldn’t be surprised if his keep was used in finding out how to drive back the Zones.

muh snowflakes
> In the aftermath of Ruin, the Earl of Warwick found himself possessed of fortune both good and bad, good in that his castle left him and his people nigh unassailable in this new age, bad in that immediately to his east lay the irradiated ruins of the West Midlands conurbation.
> Acting with an alacrity that would have startled those only familiar with his rather louche public persona, the Earl began rapidly consolidating government around his seat, bounding outward from Warwick itself to the towns to the east, north and south.
> This period of consolidation was relatively easy, Britain of the 1950s was still a place where deference to authority was quasi-instinctual, as well as a society conditioned to centralised leadership.
> However, it was equally swiftly apparent that all was not well to the west, not only had Birmingham suffered heavy bombing, but there were rumours of oddities in the ruins, rumours swiftly confirmed on the emergence of the first Loathly Worm in Post-ruin Year One.
> As the creature rampaged through the shire unity followed in its wake, the sense of an immediate shared struggle giving immediacy to consolidation efforts, capped by the involvement of half a dozen town yeomanries in the beast's eventual dismemberment outside of Dunchurch.
> In the aftermath the present tripartite system of Home Guard village patrols, County regiments as a central reserve and the Castle Guard as a confusingly-named response force, was instituted, alongside the installation of the Nevilles as heads of state pro tem, with an upper house of Lord Mayors and a lower of borough councillors meeting in Warwick.
> Whilst the Nevilles established their position as an outgrowth of the former government, and still formally serve in the name of the House of Windsor, their possession both of Warwick Castle, and of the now-hereditary Lord Mayoralty of Warwick, have allowed them to retain rulership of the shire for two centuries.

>>67353179
Zones are still pretty inconsistent around the isles, and it’s unknown how the originals properly came about, but something fucky is starting to happen around Harold’s castle, filled with the spoils of war and radioactive substances
Pretty much all the neighbours of the warlord have been wiped out now from his conquests and liberal use of lobbing radioactive waste over defensive walls

>>67353261
> Aside from consistent governance Warwick has enjoyed the traditional Midland advantages of position, natural resources and a solidity of character verging on the stolid. Not for nothing did Tolkien base his hobbits on these folk.
> However, to both their advantage and disadvantage was the proximity of the Birmingham ruins and incipient Zone. Scavenging of industrial and military equipment began almost immediately, some of which gleanings were sufficiently contaminated that they are still in storage awaiting cleansing two hundred years later.
> In the end it became a race between the expanding Forest of Arden and Warwickshire's gleaners to extract as much material from the ruins as possible before the Zone reduced it to its component elements.
> Fortunately, due to the vast manufacturies present in the West Midlands, enough was salvaged in time to allow the establishment of a small but self-sustaining industrial centre in Rugby, which would also see its famous public school metamorphosize into the shire's centre of higher education.

>>67353565
They must have close ties with Oxfordshire and Leicestershire in terms of trade, though there was a short time where caused some weird problems.
(This shouldn’t contradict anything you just said)

Due to a combination of merchant nobles moving in and momentarily weak local authority, there always a period where Leicestershire unofficially ruled a series of towns along the trade route in Warwick. The balance of power has since peacefully shifted back to local hands, but there still some nobles in Leicestershire who wish to hold total authority of the trade roads to and from the eastern kingdoms.

>>67353144
Last that has heard of Harold is that he is dead. Or at least, he should be dead by now.
His court has long since abandoned him, and those that saw him say that the damage done to him by the radiation has reached the stage that his flesh seems to be rotting off his bones.
But everyone knows that dying in a Zone does not guarantee that your body will lay down in peace.

>>67353565
I remember it being said that the Forest of Arden held creatures that resembled beasts long extinct. Though they are flawed creations, as if the Zone was imperfectly trying to recreate what was once in those lands. They also don’t seem capable of leaving the forest either, so they wander about the trees in an attempt to live out their created lives.

Bampan

>>67354724
they are literally extent critters due to a moebius time loop, but the Forest took about a generation to expand œut to cover the whole of Birmingham-Coventry-West Midlands,
>>67353882
i can live with that. we also shouldn't neglect linoclnshire because it really is important agriculturally for a lot of stuff the british fuckin love + a bunch of tiddly villages operating out there on their own would probably allow for a fair amount of narrative room for gms.

>>67354724
It's not that they can't leave so much as they don't want to. They are woodland creatures and that is their woodland.

They were first identified when someone tried selling Great Elk hide in Oxford.

>>67349923
>Good to see the two collages are still on friendly terms with each other.
Yeah, it's nice to see that something remains of the old world. I actually think that's part of the reason the boat race was maintained: Normalcy. By the time the Ruin happens the Boat race has been a yearly tradition for about 100 years, not stopped by rain or war. Having it continue, even along a different river than usual, allowed the Upper classes to kind of trick themselves into thinking that everything would be just fine. Of course, it does eventually become clear that this is NOT the case, but the tradition continues alongside newer ones, mostly because its something of the Old World. That connection is very important to many.

>>67354275
Essentially, somewhere out there may be a radioactive skeleton castle of radiation and treasure

>>67354275
>>67359480
who was harold again?

>>67359615
Warlord/madman who learned of the value of tossing volumes of radioactive substances over walls in sieges like diseased corpses back in the day, proceeded to carve out a small fiefdom of his own through this and other means, but now he lies in a castle full of the spoils of war and nuclear material, beginning to look almost skeletal himself as people begin to keel over and die, or worse

>>67359039
I don’t think they can leave, or at least not easily.
But that’s just due to Zone effects sticking around to the Zone they are from, and time slips are quite rare.

>>67360066
they can leave, but due to the moebius effect of both Arden's borders and the Zone's time-looping itself, it's rare for anything to actually get out that's not actively trying to.
People can move in and out with relative ease, it's just the technological entropy means anything more complicated than a flint spear is probably going to break down while you're in there.
Also it were a rhino, not an elk that went to oxford.
Adventure hook! The Dons want a live specimen of $pleistocene animal, are you a bad enough dude to wrangle a Homotherium with a pointy stick?

>>67360329
Well, if the party is going into a Zone with just a pointy stick, they aren’t really bad dudes. Just stupid ones.

However, that quest does make me believe that their are several nobels and scholars who will pay top Holy for a living specimen of the more unusual beasts, like the Hounds, Nuckelavee, gargoyles, and Wyrms.

>>67359480
Sounds a bit like a Zone when put that way. Could his castle possibly turn into a Zone if filled with enough Zone stuff?

>>67359737
His keep is believed to be becoming a zone, since several of the people who dropped dead before the rest flees don’t seem to have stayed down.

>>67361439
He is one of the only people to have truly hoarded zone metals and radioactive junk in such quantities. Most people would have repurposed and spread it all out by now.
The history of his keep as a forming zone is just beginning at present. All effects seem to stop at the walls, so it isn’t too big a problem. However there are still people wishing to enter this place due to the amount of valuables, despite it being the second most radioactive place in the Isles, behind only the center of the Great London Swamp.

>>67349923
That might not last, considering that Oxford's close to Caerleon and no one's sure what side of the war of the two Arthurs Cambridgeshire might end up on.

>>67363116
Oxfordshire is neutral on paper with the Arthur’s, but they work very closely with Caerleon so in practice they support his claim.
Cambridgeshire is too far from Kernow to be knowledgeable of each other, but they have shown some interest to the rumors of Merlin.

>>67345855
Leicestershire still has a large amount of livestock farms, particularly sheep. This has led them to be somewhat wealthy in the exports of mutton and wool.
The Shepherds, like many throughout history, have learned how to drive off many of the beasts that would present a danger to their herds. They have become quite skilled in the use of the sling.

>>67345841
Anything of note going on in Norfolk and Suffolk? I know Suffolk has to negotiate with Sealand to keep the area safe from the Sea Beasts.

>>67364765
That haven’t had much compared to most others, but there are hordes of zone beasts heading their way

>>67364953
At least with the beasts coming from the Swamp, there is enough land in between that the people will be able to get forewarned about the incoming danger.

>>67364765
norfolk is on a lot of reclaimed land iirc, so a big chunk of it is probably fens again.

>>67365725
The Fens are quite useful in the agriculture of the region, making Norfolk the so-called “breadbasket” of southern England.
Of course, their nature of being former marshlands make them fairly attractive to the beasts of the Great London Swamp. Thankfully the beasts aren’t moving in enough numbers to warrant a defensive line like in the USKS or Hadrian’s Wall.

>>67347692
A key point of difference between the collages is their areas of research. Oxford has spent much of its time studying the materials and effects that appear within the zone, be they Zone metals or the space/time warp, while Cambridge has focused on the plants and animals that have appeared.
Indeed, while Oxford has been able to discover many functions of the zones and its metals, Cambridge was able to discover the medicinal properties of the new Flora and Fauna.

>>67353565
I remember it being said that Warwick outright refused to play kingmaker. This has still been the case, for despite there being a House in charge, the rulers have done their best to avoid the perils of lineage.
In fact, it was due to a petty squabble of lineage that allowed Leicestershire to become the de-facto owner of the trade route for a short while.

>>67367523
That might actually explain why Cambridgeshire's got so little tech. The University is more concerned with biological Zone stuff than it is with maintaining the tech of the old world. The Cambridge scholars are probably very different from Oxford's, being less scientific and more occult.

>>67345855
How is it that Sealand has been able to maintain its Sea fort and guns for 200 years?

>>67369334
Cambridge isn’t really occult, neither college believes in real magic. What they are is more experimental than Oxford.
Cross-species blood transfusions, having someone eat something to record the effects, seeing if constant minimal exposure can people immune to radiation, that sort of thing.

The hordes approaching the eastern kingdoms are of a quantity they have never before seen, and whilst an early warning has reached them, it will hardly be enough to ensure survival
The kingdoms must now prepare to fend off the hordes with whatever they can, as defences are erected and swords put in the hands of all able

>>67370096
Naturally, the news of this hoard will reach the kingdoms just as the players enter them.
I think the best reason for the sudden hoard is that something has made the Dragon very, very angry.

>>67369421
I can see that giving the scholars of Cambridge a rather negative reputation among the common folk, especially if said common folk are the usual subjects for Cambridge's experiments.

>>67370940
It’s possible that some experiment they did is what enraged the Dragon in the first place.

Cambridge does do the experiments on the common folk, but unlike the Radical Turingists in Ireland, Cambridge pays the people to allow them to do the experiment last.
You would be surprised what people would do to themselves to guarantee that their family is fed, or just to get holies in their pocket.

Still doesn’t help when the experiments go wrong, but helps just enough that the college is tolerated overall.

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https://www.azquotes.com/quote/482480
>In attempting to construct such (artificially intelligent) machines we should not be irreverently usurping His (God's) power of creating souls, any more than we are in the procreation of children,” Turing had advised. “Rather we are, in either case, instruments of His will providing mansions for the souls that He creates.
I can totally see this being referenced by Radical Turingist theology to explain/justify their Zone-corrupted oracle machine.

>>67371225
It’s no jamming zone-tainted substances into people’s cranium - sort of situation, but they are trying to research zone-related stuff, and that has a big inherent risk

>>67371286
They did seem to believe they had made a vessel through which god spoke to them, leading to all the other beliefs linking the zones and god

>>67371303
Absolutely. And that risk sometimes pays off in either great dividends, or great pain for a few individuals.

So what sort of degree of armour will different people like knights use, and also has all of the chaos and entirely lost kingdoms left a number of ronin/knight errant sorts wandering the isles?

>>67372106
There aren’t Knight errants so much as the mercenary bands. Most of them are either being hired into the Rose War or defending against the Zone.

Armor is still varied and expensive. Plate, leather, and Mail have come back to protect against the dangers of humans, beasts, and radiation alike.
Radiation is reduced on a percentile scale. Most could rig up something that could cut it by 50%, with well made ones going to 75%. If you were to get one custom fit and made with Zone metals, you could reduce the amount of radiation taken by as much as 90%.

>>67351541
>>67370261
>>67371225
The Dragon is basically giant radioactive draconic NEET. As far as it's concerned, all it wants out of life is to sleep on its horde of all the treasures of the world pillaged by the British empire at its height, consider itself the rightful ruler of said empire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6voQj2iCsM and incinerate alive anyone who disturbs it.

>>67372792
>>67373055
That would be a very good example of a well-made custom zone-metal suit.

>>67372792
>>67373055
>>67373580
How do you even work Zonemetal anyway?

>>67375434
It's a trade secret.

But it's often unhealthy

>>67376132
For the blacksmith, or does it require a sacrifice or something?

>>67376988
Zone metal is contaminated, heating it up releases Zoneness into the immediate area via both radiation and Zone contaminated fumes. The result is that you're probably going to get cancer with a very small chance of minor unnatural abilities.

Beyond that it's just metal.

>>67377437
It is also good at protecting against radiation once smelted.

>>67375434
>>67376132
Very few have the skill and means to do it, and do it perfectly to produce the product needed
It’s why the stuff costs an arm and a leg twice over, even for lords

>>67379070
It is also why Zone metal weapons are more common than Zone metal armor. Less work is needed to be done, and it’s useful to have a weapon with some of the Zone effects added on to the sharpness of the blade.

>>67377437
Thankfully the fumes and radiation easily dissipate without lasting effects upon the forging area. Otherwise the Isle of Man and parts of Warwick would be horrible pools of madness.

(Though there was one smith who was told about the Zone fumes, and they joked it must make their forge a “Zone of great skill”)

>>67379547
Zone metals for the most part are classified by the area of the zone they were recovered from, as the intensity of the metal's effects depend on the metal's initial proximity to the Zone's core. However, effects can also alter depending upon the metal's original composition. Zone Iron will act differently from Zone copper and iron found directly outside the core will be stronger than iron found on the outer-edge of the mantle.

The zone-tainted metals used do vary a lot, and things are made to utilise their properties
This ranges from strong, near weightless armour and swords that hold an edge near-forever to a machine gun that could fire without end without damaging itself

>>67381103
With weapons, the main effect that smiths try to keep in the metal is the burning. It is an effect that makes whatever is cut by the metal buster and bleed more than if it was done so by a regular sword. Very useful when fighting against beasts, for the faster they bleed out the sooner the battle is done.

>>67381406
The armor is the hardest to make with Zone effects, since it requires the metals that would not harm the user when worn (something that’s very hard to find) and needs to be forged at a fairly low temperature so that the effect isn’t burned out.
Thankfully, even if it doesn’t burn out, the resultant armor will still be much more resilient to the Zone than any other armor.

>>67381406
I don’t think anyone has been able to make a gun that does anything other than be more durable and lack the problem of overheating.
There have always been people who make Zone metal bullets, but they are prohibitively expensive and have the obvious problem of every bullet you fire being Zone metal you are likely not to find again.

>>67382544
Zone metal Arrowheads might be a more common thing. Requires more metal to make one, but they can be more easily retrieved and reused and, when made of the right kind of metal, can be just as effective.

>>67383003
might be a reason for English longbowmen to have a resurgence

>>67383003
Such arrows are quite useful on Hadrians Wall.
Though the effects of the metal there tend to lean into the space/time distortions, and can seem quite gruesome.
The sight of a beast rapidly rotting or suddenly finding part of their guts displaced outside their body has led to many an upset stomach and lost lunch for the newest recruits.

>>67382544
True, but it is a case that shows more than just old fashioned weaponry can benefit

>>67385184
Of course. The numbers machine the Radical Turingists use is partially made of Zone metal components, after all.

>>67386058
for when you don't care if it comes up with impossible numbers because SCIENTIFIC PROGRESS. Or horrible mutants with clockwork jammed into them, either or, they're not picky.

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>>>67386058
Somewhere, out there, in the depths and deeps of the Atlantic is The Ironclad. It's history isn't known to many and the few only know what little was handed down to them by the old officers of the US in E, they knew their sins.

The water gets thicker as you go down into the briny depths. Simple rules of density, everyone knows that. In the miles deep and sunless salt at the point that it can’t sink further but is too heavy to float drifts The Ironclad. An older ship, even of that era, twisted with Zone Metal or something built in the shape of an older design. An experiment of the last days of the old world although exactly what happened to those old men took the knowing of to their graves and maybe the better for that fore it does not drift aimlessly but with purpose and a will behind it.

The crew are still there, manning their stations and going about their duties without light or air and with no port in sight. They are things of withered flesh and fairy lights in their eyes, tattered and salt eaten uniforms cling to their forms as the flag of a dead nation flutters in the currents. And it burns. Without kindling or air, miles beneath the waves the ship burns with St Elmo’s Fire. It is not alone in the deeps, here be monsters but most are above it and like some abyssal terror it rises up to war with them.

Some say that this was it’s mission in the dying world, to fight the new monsters that were preying on the ships of it’s nation. If so then it’s mission is eternal and those poor souls that still man those posts will have no rest fore monsters there are aplenty in this cursed age.

Some would say that it’s presence is therefore a blessing, a protector of seafarers from the likes of Kraken and Leviathan but t is a blessing not without price. Those lives that the sea claims despite the efforts of The Ironclad sometimes join the crew so that one of the crew might be permitted to die and must serve that hellish duty unable to die.

>>67386687
VANGUARD approves, but also pities its american counterpart.

>>67386687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSwGHXsfI7E&feature=youtu.be

>>67386058
And flesh.
>Right up to the top of the world we went; so far north we started going south again. And there, half buried in the snows of a tiny, frozen island, we found a complex built by some forgotten culture that must have flourished in the days before the Nomad Empires. Inside the central pyramid sat a dozen dead men and women on stone thrones. Some had been crushed by roof falls or encased in ice, but there were a few who, when we entered their chamber, began to whisper to us in languages we couldn’t identify. They were Stalkers, of a sort, although they had no armor or weapons, and they’d clearly not been built to fight.”

>“Then why?” asked Fishcake’s Stalker.

>“I think they were built to remember,” said Popjoy. He rummaged in a drawer for a set of Stalker’s eyes and started wiring them into his patient’s sockets. “I think that when great leaders of that culture died, their scientist-priests would take the body to the pyramid at the top of the world and stick a machine in their head, and there they’d sit, remembering. They’d remember all the things they’d done in life, and pass on those memories to their successors, and tell the stories of the times they lived in so they’d never be forgotten. Except they were forgotten, of course; their culture vanished from the earth, and the Nomad Empires that came after them picked up a crude version of the same technology and used it to build undead warriors like old Mr. Shrike."

>>67387588
Sounds like the ramblings of a Radical.
Of course, due to the nature of the Zone, that island is not only no longer there, but could have either been from the far future or far past.
More than likely the future. Even in Arden, the farthest back anyone has been able to go is the beginning of the War.

>>67361439
If it looks like a zone, and smells like a zone...

>>67388936
Only visible difference is that it doesn’t extend beyond the walls of the keep.

>>67367523
One thing we had down initially was that Oxford was focusing on keeping Old World culture alive. It's pretty much the only independent, non-political radio station still operating, and many nobles from across the nations send their children there to have a '"classical" education.

>>67388991
And naturally, there are several who will send their kids to Cambridge for the “modern” education it provides. They too have what can technically be called a radio station, but that is mainly used for emergencies, like to warn others when some experiment has broken out, or when a large amount of Zone beasts is coming near.

>>67388956
Yet.

>>67232233
>>67388583
>The time-related Zones that supposedly lead to the future are hopefully merely traps, not an accurate representation of what the future will hold. They have a nasty tendency of being lifeless, monster-infested wastelands.

>>67351541
>>67372853
Stick with the classic plothook since Beowulf. Someone robbed the horde and the dragon is going on a rampage to steal it back and kill them.

>>67390606
By far, the empty land is the most common tale told from people returning.
There is still some debate as to where this future takes place, or even when, since an empty land can describe several places in the world already.
Still, such tales give a few people hope, their logic being “there’s beasts and grass, so life must still go on”.
Some religious orders use them as visions that can still be prevented. Others just do their best to adapt.

>>67391104
And this being a game setting, it’s just as likely as not that the players were the thieves.

>>67390606
As barren as those landscapes are, they are sill clearly of earth. The moon is still there and the grass is still obviously grass.
This still brings up the question of why the Zones focus on earth when they were first brought down from space.

>>67392071
Earth has land, habitable conditions and people to witness the madness
Seems like the one person to make it to space was thoroughly nuked when the fall began, but that’s something nobody alive by the present would know

re dragon etc.
horde - a bunch of motile entities
hoard - what a dragon acquires.
>>67388583
you don't go back in Arden, it brings stuff forward to its moment out of time because it is an atemporal assault on causality pretending to be a forest.

>>67392382
What's the full story of the sole cosmonaut?

>>67392686
if you've seen references to Balor, that's him. SPACE RAYS turn him into a horrible nuclear abomination and the ivans may or may not have gone Dr Manhattan with him, either way, he lives under a lake in ireland or something being edritch.

>>67392686
Someone who happened to be in the worst possible spot at the worst possible time, was the first man in space and proceeded up get absolutely nuked as the zones began to pop up and violently expand, crashing back down to earth somewhere in Ireland
What exactly followed is unknown, but it led to what is now Balor today

>>67392071
Sample bias is another possibility. Nobody would know if a Zone teleported its victims off earth because they'd never be heard from again. Add that to the list of possible explanations for the impassable Paris Zone, maybe everyone who tried to enter wound up on mare imbrium sans spacesuit.
>>67392686
>>67392862
The world's first and most powerful rad-wizard. Being one of the lost cosmonauts, he got a direct exposure to the effects of the Zones in space and returned to earth as a gamebreakingly overpowered magical ubermensch, who the soviet leadership promptly attempted to weaponize. He started as just a superpowered human until during WW3 he took a nuclear blast at point-blank range, the additional radiation of which pushed him into the mutation and insanity stage of rad-wizardry. Now he's even more overpowered than ever, but stuck in his lake because without the cooling water, he'd melt down like a nuclear reactor.

>>67392686
>>67392862
>>67392964
>>67393077
The soviet leadership thought he was enough of an advantage to win the war for them. He argued against it, but was overruled by Stalin, then proven right in the worst way possible. So he's basically driven by guilt for accidentally destroying the world and wants to make sure a similar situation never happens again by forcibly conquering the world to end all wars and being the most literally and politically powerful person ever so nobody can ever have the option of not listening to his warnings/orders. Then on top of that, he's been driven half mad by rad-wizardry corruption.

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>>67392686
>>67392862
>>67392964
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>>67393136
A colossal horrible thing living in the water. Something strange and terrible and not to be bothered lest it bring ruin. A giant, one lidded eye that spews death and a voice like waves upon the breakers as it's misshapen arm as long as ten men upon the other claws towards land.

>>67393077
>during WW3 he took a nuclear blast at point-blank range
>>67393136
>proven right in the worst way possible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSvrUBZjkv8

>>67393159
He’s stuck in his lake because getting out causes him to start overheating.
Drinking from the Grail would solve this problem and let him glare without the massive downsides.

>>67393136
>>67393195
>Video clip
Shot of huge bomber, rounded gun turrets sprouting like mushrooms from the decaying log of its fuselage, weirdly bulbous engine pods slung too far out towards each wingtip, four turbine tubes clumped around each atomic kernel.

Voice-over
"The Convair B-39 Peacemaker is the most formidable weapon in our Strategic Air Command's arsenal for peace. Powered by eight nuclear-heated Pratt and Whitney NP-4051 turbojets, it circles endlessly above the Arctic ice cap, waiting for the call. This is Item One, the flight training and test bird: twelve other birds await criticality on the ground, for once launched a B-39 can only be landed at two airfields in Alaska that are equipped to handle them. This one's been airborne for nine months so far, and shows no signs of age.''

Cut to:
A shark the size of a Boeing 727 falls away from the open bomb bay of the monster. Stubby delta wings slice through the air, propelled by a rocket-bright glare.

>>67393668
Voice-over
"A modified Navajo missile -- test article for an XK-PLUTO payload -- dives away from a carrier plane. Unlike the real thing, this one carries no hydrogen bombs, no direct-cycle fission ramjet to bring retaliatory destruction to the enemy. Travelling at Mach 3 the XK-PLUTO will overfly enemy territory, dropping megaton-range bombs until, its payload exhausted, it seeks out and circles a final enemy. Once over the target it will eject its reactor core and rain molten plutonium on the heads of the enemy. XK-PLUTO is a total weapon: every aspect of its design, from the shockwave it creates as it hurtles along at treetop height to the structure of its atomic reactor, is designed to inflict damage.''

Cut to:
Belsen postcards, Auschwitz movies: a holiday in hell.

Voice-over
"This is why we need such a weapon. This is what it deters. The abominations first raised by the Third Reich's Organisation Todt, now removed to the Ukraine and deployed in the service of New Soviet Man as our enemy calls himself.''

Cut to:
A sinister grey concrete slab, the upper surface of a Mayan step pyramid built with East German cement. Barbed wire, guns. A drained canal slashes north from the base of the pyramid towards the Baltic coastline, relic of the installation process: this is where it came from. The slave barracks squat beside the pyramid like a horrible memorial to its black-uniformed builders.

Cut to:
The new resting place: a big concrete monolith surrounded by three concrete lined lakes and a canal. It sits in the midst of a Ukraine landscape, flat as a pancake, stretching out forever in all directions.

Voice-over
"This is Project Koschei. The Kremlin's key to the gates of hell ...''

>>67393668
>>67393688
>For the past three decades, the B-39 Peacemaker force has been tasked by SIOP with maintaining an XK-PLUTO capability directed at ablating the ability of the Russians to activate Project Koschei, the dormant alien entity they captured from the Nazis at the end of the last war. We have twelve PLUTO-class atomic-powered cruise missiles pointed at that thing, day and night, as many megatons as the entire Minuteman force. In principle, we will be able to blast it to pieces before it can be brought to full wakefulness and eat the minds of everyone within two hundred miles.

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>>67393611
>let him glare without the massive downsides.

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>>67391223
The radical turingist train of thought is "if life on earth is doomed, leave earth". This may be a stable time loop if the cause of earth's destruction is the radiation and nuclear winter of their monastery's launch mechanism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=K1QCL35iigY

>>67393668
>>67393688

God I loved that short story

>>67393611
aaaaaaaaand there is the bit that connects the Grail to Balor (who is probably the ultamite BBEG of the setting)

I think it would be interesting if the reason Cheyenne was still alive in the heart of the USA is because the US Government managed to build some sort of anti-zone maguffin in response to Balor before everything went to shit. It would be a great secret goal for the USE expedition (like discovering and fighting over the GECK in Fallout 3) and would add a kyrptonite to the setting for GMs to bring in incase Balor grows in power due to the players fucking up the Grail quest.

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>>67394081
>some sort of anti-zone maguffin in response to Balor
Prewar America had a rad-wizardry gap, but making their own was tricky. The cold war-era mad scientists and Alphabet Agencies could go full tuskegee and irradiate all the "volunteers" they wanted, but only get the negative side effects of mutation and insanity. Unless they'd acquired or created some kind of mystical maguffin to stabilize rad-wizards and were on the brink of success, leading to the soviet strike before they could close the rad-wizard gap. A mystical maguffin that could heal the Cheyenne bunker inhabitants of the deadly radiation surrounding them and keep them alive for centuries as long as they kept drinking from it.

>>67393688
>Koschei

He currently rules over Novgorod. Goes by the name Rasputin these days.

>>67394081
The grai is currently in the hands of A Man, who seems to have used it to get out of Paris.
The whole ordeal seems to have broken his mind, though.

Still, an anti-zone maguffin in the otherwise dead America would be interesting.

I thought that the guy crashed down onto Ireland after being fried up in space as the fall began, where the oceans became impassable and you wouldn’t exactly be able to get back to a USSR who just think their cosmonaut died horribly and are far more concerned with the fighting breaking out in Europe
Last I heard of it there was some gap between landing and getting caught in the nuclear blast in Ireland which left him as he is in the present
Countries did make some advances ahead of their time, but there wasn’t exactly knowledge of Changed Ones, let alone attempted production of them, those popped up during the fall onwards

>>67397381
He did crash down, but not in Ireland. He was already turned due to the exposure of the Zone in space, and was one of the reasons the short-lived science boom happened. Of course his condition is why he still wore the suit.
He ended up in Ireland during the Evacuation, specifically in Dublin, and was there when the bomb hit. His survival and rapid mutation is what led him to staying in the lake to keep cool.

>>67397657
We did have the crash site as Ireland before, turned from being fried up in space as the fall happened
Before the fall started, the zones and radiation were more of an oddity than a major threat
He did go from being affected by being fried to full on Balor with the nuke, but I don’t think we need to turn the guy into some Soviet super weapon

>>67397695
I remember it never being agreed where he crashed. I also remember it being said that Balor was used in Soviet propaganda as well.
I personally think it makes more sense if he crashed one the border of the Soviet bloc. The Zone followed him down to the crash site, and then appearing in one of the most tense places on earth would give both sides the ability to study it, as well as increase tensions to war when it all went wrong and began to spread.
Also, one of the reasons Britain got off so well was its refusal to participate in the rising tensions and war. Don’t think they’d be able to do that if the entire reason for it all was on their own territory.

>>67397854
where did we talk about britain refusing to join in with the rising tensions? that doesn't gel with anything we've done.
Balor must originally go down in soviet territory because there is a period of months to years between Zone ray bombardment and the end of the world, he is in the motherland during that time. (giving stalin nut cancer by virtue of proximity so the evil fucker is suffering right up until SAC turns him into a scorchmark.)

>>67398067
I thought the getting fried in space part was at the time of the zones starting to rapidly spread, rather than several years prior, especially if he only got up into space early from some of the advances in technology that followed it
Personally, o just dislike how people are turning what was a big threat in Ireland with some interesting backstory into the be all end all world ending super villain who was also responsible for ww3 and a soviet super weapon

>>67398067
I remember it being said in one of the earlier thread as an explanation as to why it was better off than every other country in Europe. Must have changed since then. Must have been their participation in the futile relief efforts like the Evacuation.

Though even those had a downside, for it was due to Balor getting to Ireland that caused Dublin to become a target. Nobody knows which side did it, but Yuri wasn’t a resource either side wanted to fall into the others hands.

>>67398224
The launch was the starting factor for the Zones to appear. What caused them to spread around the world was a misguided attempt to contain it by nuking it.

He didn’t cause the War nor a super weapon. At best he was a propaganda tool as the Soviet Superman (like the German Ubermensch propaganda). His glare was due to the radiation absorbed from the Dublin bomb.
He has since come to the conclusion that the only way to stop all this warring was for him to be in charge to stop it.

>>67395341
But the grail is with A Man I thought? Multiple grails?

>>67398420
The one in Cheyenne isn’t the Grail, it’s just some thing they were able to make that was almost able to replicate the apparent effects of the current Grail.
The bombs dropped before they could perfect it, but it would be a good explanation as to why Cheyenne survived for the players to find in the USE expedition.

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>>67398224
i favour him being a potential threat in ireland that never quite materialises, but he's not one of mine so.
Having him be a pre-war propaganda tool and a post-war myth works on a continuum, he's always a background entity and never actually appears on screen as it were.
As for Zone formation vs timeline, iunno, i think Balor and Zones should be synchronous, both caused by the same, unexplained, phenomena.
We have timeline changes preZones as it stands, having the reds get a man into space earlier is reasonable enough, especially as that in itself ratchets tensions up.
As to whether these timeline changes are themselves results of the atemporal bullshit zones can do, that's for them buggers at oxbridge to work out.
Oh and also because the americans actually built reactor-powered bombers in this timeline, this magnificent piece of work is what they look like.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40172

>>67398532
Sounds good. He’s kind of like Cthulhu, a big threat that never really appears, but is a very bad sign if they do.

Still, also like Cthulhu, there are going to be some players who will want to fight him. The Grail falling into his hands would give the GM an excuse to let that happen.

>>67398532
I agree on both being effects and not cause, the actual zones that exist today popped up at the same time as the nuking of Balor
>>67398239
I think that was that whilst Europe was also hit harder with the zones popping up everywhere and the things coming from them, Britain was more hesitant to use nuclear weapons as many others did in attempts at scorched earth, the biggest one of those being Paris
Seeing how nukes turned out to produce or boost some terrible zones, this turned out to be a good thing, as only two or three were set off in the isles, though it is not clear by whom

To put some focus on the present again, what else is going on in the Eastern Kingdoms? How do the three relate to one another and how are they preparing for the London Horde?

>>67398650
>>67398650
well Paris was the RAF, it being unsuccessful is probably enough of a reason for Downing St to not go ax-crazy with nukes.
As for who /did/ hit the UK zones, i favour SAC itself, nuking an ally's territory because you think they're a bunch of pussies is exactly the sort of bullshit you'd expect from 1950s america and SAC in particular.
Disgust at this in the higher echelons of SACEUR could also be why the AEF don't immediately make for home after Second Dunkirk, the doggies don't know it, but those assholes in the USAAF nuked them and the army is absolutely pissed.
The end of the world then occurs and what becomes the USKS's leadership decides to pretend they're just as ignorant of the source of the bombing as everyone else, which becomes true after a couple of generations of leadership changes.

>>67398899
Oh Warwickshire has a plan and it's the primary reason they swallowed Rutland and RAF Cottesmore in particular. It won't be a popular plan, but it's the best they've got.
Meanwhile, they're buddying up with Oxbridge, and, if I must, fucking Leicester.

>>67399176
I am unsure of the phrasing. Are you saying that they are allies with Leicestershire despite not liking them, or that they are doing their best to subtly screw them over?
Those three are all about who has the most control of the trade route. They may not like that the other two own a section, but without them the route would be much less valuable.

>>67399300
the former. bunch of danelaw scrubs who probably eat herring and call their children Sven.

>>67397657
He didn't have his "condition" until catching a nuke with his face while trying to go all Superman-deflects-missiles over the Atlantic. Just powers, no side effects. The nuke pushed him into meltdown mode and covered him in burns, including the loss of one eye.

>>67399330
Must be surprising to find out how much of their wool comes from Leicestershire.

>>67399485
That is an overblown myth that the Fomorians made up. He was the equivalent to a modern Rad-wizard when he came down, only more powerful.

>>67399176
I meant Suffolk and co, but that’s good

>>67399616
Norfolk is a farming kingdom, and have enough crops to have a yearly surplus to trade.
Suffolk’s economy works through the trade with the USKS and helping Sealand protect the area from Sea Beasts.

>>67398899
The London Hoard is something that would happen in-game, like the breaking of the siege in the Rose War.
So at the moment, the dragon is at peace on its hoard, and the beasts of the Swamp are living there without much conflict.

>>67398067
I think from the beginning we'd decided Britain wasn't picking sides, which is how it escaped *comparatively* unscathed.
>>67397695
I'm also not sure about making Balor a USSR super weapon, but a lot of people think it's a good idea. I prefer the idea that he:
>Gets sent up and *something* happens up there
>Gets horribly irradiated and falls back to Earth
>Crash-lands in Ireland
>Zones start springing up across the world, possibly as a result as whatever happened in space
>Short nuclear war and then tech boom
>Everything goes to shit from there
>Second Dunkirk
>Setting as we know it

>>67401335
Yeah, though the nukes happened as the shit hit the fan, mostly as scorched earth
Britain was with the west, and also lost their fair share in the retreat through Europe, just weren’t so happy with using nukes after Paris

>>67401335
He wasn’t a weapon, he was propaganda. Like a Soviet Captain America.
Also, the first Zone came down with the crash, so him crashing along the Iron Curtain would give both sides access to it.
Also, the tech boom was before the nuclear war.

>>67400690
I’d say it’s on its way, and the preparation has begun, to that end what is happening and how do the three kingdoms relate

>>67398500
If we roll with this, it wouldn't be an artificial replica grail, just one that could cancel out a Zone. No eternal life/cure-all buggery, otherwise there's no point having a Grail in the first place.
>>67398993
Could be interesting, and makes a lot of sense. Also could be a potential point of contention further down the line, maybe leading to the USKS splitting, if the original orders for the USAAF to nuke the UK are found.

>>67401824
We're still working on this. I don't want to put anything into the doc until we're certain what order things happened in, whether or not Balor has any post-space connection to the USSR, how the boom happened etc.

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>>67345855
i prefer my map

>>67403284
I’m pretty sure the boom, the zones starting to pop up, expand rapidly and spew out abominations hasn’t and shouldn’t have an exact cause, simply the effects of it

>>67403284
I think him falling along the Iron Curtain and him being used in propaganda makes the most sense given the history.
It would give both Alliances ability to study the zone and his presence as propaganda would give a reason for the existence of the German Ghouls and Red Army.
It makes more sense if they were attempts to recreate what Balor was (pre nuking)rather than the countries exposing people to the Zone for a larf.

>>67403262
Yeah, I fee like no one should be able to replicate the Grail. The Grail is something beyond human understanding, having someone flat out create a new one would completely counter that image.

>>67383570
Also the lack if industry would facilitate it,

>>67406238
Yep, even normal archers will be back in style
Biggest current war would be the Second War of the Roses, we could take a closer look at troops and such, mainly for Lancashire as it’s known Yorkshire is making heavy use of mercenaries and details on other stuff

>>67383570
The setting has generally reverted to medieval tech levels in many places, so I don't really think they need an excuse like that.

>>67407363
Lancashire's probably got better tech than York, through trade with the Manx if nothing else. I imagine they'll have far more guns than York, perhaps leading to a preference for hit and run style cavalry as opposed to heavy cav, and perhaps a bit of a focus on gun-lines.

>>67403764
I would say the early timeline goes like this:
>in the early 1950’s, Balor (aka young Yuri) is shot up in a non-orbital trajectory. (Only technically reaches space)
>”The capsule is glowing! There is a glow outside and I’m burning up! What is that?”
>News flash: Rocket falls on border of East and West Germany. Could this be the first aggressive action between the Bloc and NATO?
>Report: the passenger was still alive at the crash site. We were able to secret the passenger back, but there has been a problem. Follows: the man now glows, as did the capsule and land in its immediate area. Will require a cover story. Glory to the workers of the Soviet Union!
>The 10 mile area now known as the Zone has had tanks from both sides parked around it for weeks now. Neither side wishes to back down from this valuable find. A constant stream of scientists enter and exit the area with scientific instruments and samples.
>Behold the wonders of Soviet science! Behold the wonders of American science! The New Soviet Man come to life! A thinking machine that can make 1 million calculations per second! What other wonders shall come in the coming half century?
>Report: To the Director of the German exclusion zone: It’s growing.
>Leaders of the world were shocked today when a hydrogen bomb was dropped on the German Exclusion Zone. Soviet leaders decried it as an act of barbarism, while the Americans claimed it was a necessary act to stop a greater tragedy!
>memo to the Politburo: Situation is rapidly deteriorating. It just flows around our reclamation efforts. The bombs make it stronger. We can’t stop it.
>”To anyone who can hear this: Ships are still departing at Dunkirk! If you are still able, make your way to Dunkirk! Repeat. To any one who can hear this: Ships are still departing...”

>>67408512
Lancashire has had much long term stability and was said to have elite troops with bolt action rifles
Yorkshire has been much more varied, with low tech troops, massively varying mercenaries and then also Edwards small number of mounted riflemen
The alliance with the Order of Saint Turing has brought technological support amongst other things, but Lancashire will probably have more consistently capable troops from not being a mess for so long

>>67409794
At the moment, both are relying on mercenaries to turn the tide and break the stalemate of a siege. Lancashire has even hired groups of Changed Ones, Touched and Turned alike.

>>67409962
Lancashire has hired a great number of changed ones to combat the Stirling raids, but are still mostly their own army compared to the rather ramshackle Yorkist forces

>>67410146
The York’s, as ramshackle as they may be, still have been able to cause enough damage to keep the siege in a stalemate. If the Serling Raids work, the exhausted Lancashire army would have to fall back. Of course, if the secret bunker was found in the city, it would allow the Lancashire army to get into the offensive instead.

>>67410242
Whilst rather ramshackle, this variety included some fancy stuff like the Desert Rats, it just happens that people haven’t really had to work out how to use tanks and men at arms together before

>>67409197
What eventually became the Red Army was originally an attempt to reverse-engineer the accident that happened to Balor. While their physicality became superior and they still took orders, their appearance was much more grotesque.
Many other attempts were made to recreate a The so-called “New Soviet Man”, and those projects even resulted in the Wulver and mechanical Frankenstein German Ghouls. Even the modern Radical Turingists (and some Stitchers) can trace their practices back to some of these projects.

>>67396938
It isn't proven that he has the Grail, just assumed.

>>67411596
>While their physicality became superior and they still took orders, their appearance was much more grotesque.
Not at all the case. The Red Army's individual soldiers remain hardly distinguishable from common men in their physiology, it is only their psychological character that has changed. The Scrawl that has been brought before the Monks of Turing (those of good faith at least) bear none of the chemical markers that the Radicals insist are present, and the records found by the gleaners show no plot so foolish was ever attempted. The Great Red Army was dispatched to hold the Siberian Zones in the face of encroachment from the PLA, that innumerable clay formed army of the Chinese that once responded to the Isles' Imperium.

>>67414849
maybe the good scholar confuses the Red Chymeriae for the Red Horde, both are Bolshevik, but one are a bunch of vivisected monsters and the other are a timeloop flickering through iterations of the Red Army that are not of our earth, tramping endlessly through the snow and dust of Siberia.

>>67414484
A Man has the Grail. It is protecting him in his wanderings through Europe. (This is out of Universe knowledge. In-universe he is believed to have a grail of some sort that may have helped him escape Paris)

>>67415954
I think those two have since joined together in the 200 years. Quite the force to be stuck in a möbius loop.
What a shame, then, that A Man is wandering east with an artifact that can dispel the local and personal effects of the Zone.

>>67416736
A Man is a blundering catastrophe waiting for someone to happen to. Potentially if he keeps going east he'll end up going over the Bearing Streights into the American Dead Zone. Fuck knows what is at the heart of that.

>>67417696
Thankfully l, the Grail seems to be keeping him from any danger. At the moment in Germany (I think it would be best if the players finally end their trail in Germany) the Ghouls pass by him without any sign of aggression.
Of course, that doesn’t mean he’s safe. More than once on the trail the players will find spots where A Man dropped the Grail along with other things he holds. Even spots where a beast or Turned drank from it during his friendly moments of lucidity.

>>67395341
>>67396938
>>67398420
>>67398500
>>67403262
>>67404914
I'm a fan of the idea that the Cheyenne Mountaineers have the actual Grail, not some artificial knockoff. They didn't make it, they found it and were keeping it stored in some kind of DARPA blacksite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRP0MBNoieY
It's the only reason why they survived for centuries while the rest of the continent died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0TalLrtZ24

>>67418268
I think it makes more sense if it isn’t the actual Grail.
The Ark, maybe, but not the Grail.

>>67418546
Ark is in Axom.

>>67398500
>>67403262
>>67404914
Trying to reverse-engineer God's work to buld a superweapon is going to backfire. Hard. >>67371286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-piARxy4U

>>67418898
No wonder why the soviets decided that nuking whatever the americans had made was worth kicking off WW3 for before they could use it.

>>67419080
It was partially that and partially a reaction to the NATO nuking of the first Zone.
>>67418898
Well, Cheyenne is still a big unknown and the only thing the USE knows of it at present is that it is the source of a non-repeating communication station.
Never reacts to attempts at radio contact. Not even if you think you’re interrupting.

>>67411596
>Radical turingism was partially founded by ex-american military mad scientists.
>>67418898
>>67419080
They know what lies dormant in Cheyenne since the soviet nuclear preemptive strike against it and they want out >>67393817 before it wakes up.

>>67419994
Not just the Radicals, the whole Turing ideology has its roots in them, since Turing was part of it.

Also the planned rocket is only in the paper and numbers stage. While they have it as a backup escape plan, they’re mainly dealing with the zone through self-modification. If the thing sees them as of the Zone, it might just pass them over.

>>67420209
Normal Turingism isn’t too mad science-y, they just really love their number crunching machines

So Leeds was previously under no specific banner, and simply a real pain to occupy, though it now holds Lancashire troops after their initial push forwards into a disorganised Yorkshire
With the Yorkists retaking ground up to the current lines, it is now cut off again, but how are things in the city itself, given the difficulty to occupy and now being occupied by Lancashire?

>>67419994
Wait so what exactly is lying dormant in Cheyenne?

Don’t forget America is explicitly near-impossible to reach due to the oceans being so dangerous, with the sheer distance removing the chance for hopping between safe land in calm periods

>>67422753
you need to cross over through the north, and even then, the continent is a lunar level of dead

>>67421697
Nobody knows, possibly not even the poor souls that "live" there.

>>67421697
>>67422753
Nobody is really sure what’s there. (Except maybe the Radicals, and they aren’t talking)
Best anyone has been able to put together from overheard radio chatter is that it is some kind of object or being that is able to absorb the Zone effect over a large portion of what used to be Wyoming. At least enough that people(?) have been able to survive for 200 years.
If the if the players want to help the USKS get there, they would have to gather enough materials to rebuild two ships (likely destroyers), enough fuel for both them and the supply ship, enough supplies to not only last the trip but to grow even more, chose if they should take the Great Lakes route or Mississippi to the central US, and then face the overland trip.
The overland trip alone would require something like the Turing dispellers or the Grail

>>67420209
>If the thing sees them as of the Zone, it might just pass them over.
The Cheyenne Abomination doesn't care if something is "of the Zone" or not, it'll menace them anyway.
>>67421697
An american military black project to build their own counter to Yuri/Balor gone horribly wrong.

>>67422940
>>67421697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHO2LTJBnSY

>>67421697
>>67422940
The Creation of Cheyenne is inanimate, so it took control of its creators and has been keeping them alive for centuries corrupted into half-mindless in a sort of pseudo-mindless state as puppeted appendages for itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knImeAiO1qc

>>67423909
They don’t know what it wants. Nobody knows what it will do. What’s under that mountain is one big old question mark.
All anyone can say about it is that it has enabled people around Cheyenne and Wyoming to survive for the past two centuries when the rest of the continent is basically the dark side of the moon.

>>67424073
>All anyone can say about it is that it has enabled people around Cheyenne and Wyoming to survive for the past two centuries when the rest of the continent is basically the dark side of the moon.
If they're still what they seem. None of them have aged or died and no children have been born since the war. And nobody has ever gone more than a few kilometers from Cheyenne.

>>67424165
Nobody in the Isles knows for sure what’s going on in Cheyenne. The only reason they know it exists are the non-repeating radio stations talking to each other over there.

>>67424257
>non-repeating radio stations talking to each other over there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86B3pMbyV_Y

>>67420288
Normal Turingism believes technology is a divine gift whose misuse devastated the old world and they much prove themselves worthy of it again.
https://grist.org/article/wizards-and-prophets-face-off-to-save-the-planet/

Scientific understanding translates into technological progress, which had once led to the greatest increase in human living standards of all time. It is a divine gift.

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>>67426667
Dispellers and such will likely have decent equipment, but it’s Knights of the Faith that will be rocking the heavier armour to accompany those dangerous old-age weaponry

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>>67426667
>alternate Turingist Dispeller Knight

>>67427305
Yeah, they’re more likely to be like that, carrying a decent amount of equipment for those dispelling tools, taking up space and weight for armour

>>67426667
At present, there are only two known ways to dispel the Zones in the Isles.
The first and most used by Caerleon and Warwick is the Slash-and-burn style. You remove and repurpose every physical material tainted by both the Zone and radiation, then burn the plants until only ash remains. This makes any resurgence easier to spot and remove. This is what has allowed those kingdoms to hold territory within what should otherwise be deep in an active Zone. The knight seen here was a Turing who helped clear an area on the Southern Yorkish border.
However the state of Harold’s keep brings up the possibility that this less dispelling the Zone than it is spreading it out very, very thin.
The second, and more recent, style are the dispeller devices the Turingists are experimenting with in Ireland. At the size of a cart and using a specific resonance that their thinking machine found out, the device has seemed to be able to remove all unimbued effects of the zone within a radius of at least a mile. What’s more, these places seem to remain untainted for about a week. Of course this is less dispelling as it is “pushing back”, and requires both materials and ability to make the device. (Corcu Clare of the Dalcassians and cork have both asked if it is possible to scale up the device so it can cover a city. Could be useful for, say, a boat crossing the Atlantic)

>>67427305
>>67427887
I think that’s one of the Radicals attempts at the dispeller device.

>>67421295
Bringing this back up as it could be interesting to look at how sieges work along with what’s going on inside the city given the Lancashire occupation

>>67428630
Also what’s making that weapons cache so hard to find in there?

>>67429449
What makes the cache so hard to find is that it has been forgotten and it’s entrance long since built over. It’s been 200 years, so the roads have long since changed due to fire, necessity, and time.
The players looking for it will have a map that shows the bunker is there, but barely any of the landmarks are the same. So they will need to compare the old map to the new one to figure out the most likely spot.

>>67425145
There has been more than two voices. There’s enough variance to suggest that the stations are the work of a group.
However the scenario in that video has happened in the past.

>>67427887
>Slash-and-burn style. You remove and repurpose every physical material tainted by both the Zone and radiation, then burn the plants until only ash remains. This makes any resurgence easier to spot and remove. This is what has allowed those kingdoms to hold territory within what should otherwise be deep in an active Zone. The knight seen here was a Turing who helped clear an area on the Southern Yorkish border.
>However the state of Harold’s keep brings up the possibility that this less dispelling the Zone than it is spreading it out very, very thin.
What if you dump all the ashes and detritus further into the Zone whose boundary regions you removed them from? You may not be able to get rid of the Zone, but at least you can shrink it.

>>67430597
Warwickshire has been chucking it down old coal mines, which probably explains the Spriggans.
I/they should probably rethink that.

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>>67431807
Well that's fucking horrifying as a possibility.

The other possibility is that it could be anything at all else. They may have an avatar of Death locked up in there or something that belonged to it and the result was the North American Dead Zone.

>>67430597
You’ll be making it smaller but more concentrated, there were already bound to be nasty things coming out already and now possibly more

>>67431807
I must say, even though the think in Cheyenne isn’t raising the dead, that is a perfectly foreboding representation of what’s under that mountain.

>>67429603
If you can find it, you’d still need to get inside, plus others will likely also be searching for it
Need to work out what’s going on in the city

>>67435202
The door at the lowest level of Cheyenne can't be opened. If anyone goes to intentionally open it something will stop them. The lift jamming between floors, hazardous substance leaking into the stairwell, the man meant to be opening in it called in sick with the flu, someone lost the keys, chef fucked up the chicken casserole and half the base has the trots, massive inter-personal upheaval due to cross rank fraternization scandals resulting in massive timetable shifts and the "Open The Fucking Door" slot gets forgotten about for a few weeks, rats chew through a wire and now the door room has no light and other things.

Presumably the door is perfectly in working order and just need one man, a key and a bit of effort. If you go down there with the intent of just listening or touching the door all is well and you can prod the door, stick a stethoscope on it and do all sorts of things. Just don't try and open it or something totally bullshit and coincidental will stop you.

>>67431807
wot dis?

>>67437492
A marker from the Dead Space franchise being used to suggest the appearance of what could be in Cheyenne Mountain.

>>67431367
Looks like the outfit a smith would wear when working on Zone metals.

What’s going on in the northern parts of the SWotR?
Most the relevant stuff is down south as it is

>>67440365
The northern parts of where?

>>67437423
Nobody is sure if the thing in there is actively and intentionally stopping anyone coming in or if it's cause and effect traveling back through time.

>>67440893
Second war of the roses
The Siege of Leeds and Stirling raids are both in the south, the northern areas of the contested lands are pretty much a blank slate

>>67441500
Northumbria and the scattered area are in the process of falling apart due to the stress put upon them by supporting the war.

>>67441773
Don’t forget the wide majority being overrun by zones
Whilst Northumbria isn’t in much of a state to fight in other people’s wars, there could still be some of the lesser fiefdoms bordering the Two Roses

>>67442546
The Zones that’s are much smaller and more sporadic than the others. So much so that they can’t be mapped.
Their behavior has caused several people in the area to say that they are being caused by the “stupid fighting over dumb flag flowers!”

>>67427887
Pretty sure we already said that you can destroy a zone by killing/destroying whatever's at the centre of it, but I like the idea of this as a preventative measure/last resort. Perhaps it's the only way to destroy the larger zones? You can destroy their cores, and technically the zone with it, but the zone's effects will remain, intensifying in one are until a new core forms and with it a new zone. The only way to stop that from happening is to get rid of every living thing that used to be in the zone.

>>67443160
Even if you destroy the core, you would still have to implement one of the two methods to dispel the effects. Not to mention you would have to reach it and survive the radiation that surrounds it.
So far, a Zone core has only been destroyed once, by Caerleon in one of their crusades. They are hoping to destroy a second fairly soon.

>>67442728
They can blame the war if they want, but those remaining small groups don’t have many others to turn to for help

>>67445043
The closest ones they can turn to are al participating in the War and thus can’t turn over loans to help.

>>67445330
Aid may not be currently present, but if they threw their lot in with one of sides they may be promised support and maybe even reclaiming lost land after the conflict

>>67446301
And that’s the reason they are still giving support. At this point, Aid is the only way the current leaders could stay in power.

>>67440365
I think a lot of that area has become war-torn. Can’t really plow the fields for planting if there are armored soldiers laying dead in it.

>>67447328
Most the contested lands are a real mess
So the northern parts have surviving minor northern groups joining the fray to get support after the war, but is anything decisive happening up there?

>>67448300
In the area, the Rose War and their claims to leading England to a better future is the most decisive thing going on in the area.
You don’t really get much else in big conflict until you reach Scotland with the Icelandic Raids, various Horned Men, and Nessie.

>>67448905
Yeah, meant decisive within the war, much alike the situation with the Stirling raids destabilising the Lancastrians, or the Siege of Leeds and the great stockpile of weaponry hidden within the city
Compared to those the northern contested lands have nothing important, just some extra little groups throwing their lot in with either side

>>67448932
The siege of Leeds is like the Battle of Kursk. A great battle point that could make or break either side.
Players could help form a grassroots army to help stabilize the northern region, but all the focus of the War will be on what happens at and after the Siege of Leeds.

>>67449143
It could function like the Battle of Hoover Dam from Fallout: New Vegas. The players actions in the region could give strength to their preferred side to help with breaking the siege.

>>67437423
Someone did once manage to look through the keyhole once. He thinks that he was something move but it was very dark.

>>67452096
If this turns out to be Dexter's Laboratory I'll be very disappoint.

>>67453373
Heh. Some nobles have too much money to spend and think that multiple swords, be they Zone metal or not, will make them more impressive.

>>67449704
>>67449143
The way other decisive factors go would still help or hinder the two sides, such as the nearby Stirling raids
To that end it would be worth working out a few others and what’s actually happening along the frontline across the contested lands

>>67454372
I think many of the specific quests could be left up to the GM to plan out. Most of what we’ve done is give out possible goals and big threats the players could face.

>>67435202
>the thing in Cheyenne isn’t raising the dead
>implying any of the Cheyenne inhabitants have been alive since WW3 and aren't just disguises being collectively controlled by something unimaginable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPqt4fALhU

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>>67437423
Ever since the radio signals were discovered and listened to, rumors have abounded in the USKS about what could be going on in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Some people are hopeful that it is an oasis in a dead land, with people and technology that could help mankind reclaim their hold on the world. Others fear that it holds something worse that the Ghost-city of Paris.
It still has captured the attention of the USE, for any remnants of their old country would be worth it to see.

>>67443305
I'll be honest that feels a little Sue-ish, especially considering that there are other factions whose intent is to destroy Zones. Caerleon can be the most recent, but it being the only one just feels off to me. The other ones can be mostly legends, taken to the point that most people don't believe it happened and that the truth is indistinguishable from fiction, but there should be stories of other Zones destroyed in this way, especially for the Theocracy of Cork.

>>67455251
actually, what if they -were- the NSC or whatever the equivalent was back when, bound to [REDACTED] and not alive or dead, trapped in Cheyenne.
Whatever it is won't let them go, they woke it and tried to use it against the commies but disaster ensued and now they're both wardens and slaves of the entity, monsters in their own right made so by both centuries of exposure to whatever it is, and by the terrible necessity of keeping it bound.
Shuffling undead walk the tunnels of the mountain, hollow-eyed and slack-jawed, souls long burnt away, their dessicated remains kept upright by the will of their damned masters who puppet their thralls in rituals to keep the mountain sealed, to keep themselves and their deity/damnation within and away from the world.
They are insane of course, they don't understand why they do the things they do, set in opposition to each other, and [REDACTED], but just they seek to free themselves of the webs of geas they laid on themselves when they when they were men, the spite, fear, hate that sustains them makes them frantically rebind each other as quickly as they can.
They are the monsters in the mountain, the old gods of Before.
And from an ooc perspective they're the joint chiefs turned into mummified eldritch abominations for the purpose of containing a worse one; who did this to them & what happened to the rest of the NSC are questions yet to be answered.

>>67457353
The zone cores would be in the red areas of the map, not something you would easily find in every zone.
The way I see Zone cores is as a massive conglomeration of zone metals at least the size of a school bus. The one in London should be about the size of a single-story house and getting bigger thanks to the Dragon.
So, the reason I say Caerleon is the first and so far only one to “destroy” a Zone core is because they were able to basically mine it before the effects of the zone could really damage the people attacking it, this didn’t have to fall back.
Most zone metals are the result of a Zone core trying to form, so technically every Gleaner who removes metals from the area is “destroying” a core, but Caerleon is the first one to have destroyed one of such a size that it could be called a Core.

>>67457652
That's just The Wall Of Pain from the Laundry Files.
>The Sleeper In The Pyramid is an eldritch abomination that's being held inside a pyramid on a distant planet by observer effect magic. The structure is surrounded by a Wall Of Pain of impaled victims that are just barely alive/undead enough to constantly observe it and collapse its wave function into a "captive in the pyramid and dormant" state. The RAF has a special wormhole airplane that does a flyby over the Plateau every once in a while, just in case. Furthermore, the Wall of Pain is set to come to undeath and chase down any interlopers who try to reach the Plateau.

>>67421697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjUSzpYcuA

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>>67457669
Could have it as such in some zones, since zones do vary
Zone tainted metals are most prevalent in the industrial zones, but cores themselves vary in form

>>67457669
>thanks to the Dragon
The London Zone Core is either the Dragon's hoard or embedded inside its chest cavity as its heart.

>>67458529
Considering the size of the London Zone, I would say it’s both.

I get the feeling this setting has gotten to a state that we cannot really add more to it without it becoming a mess and hindering a GM’s ability to make their own story.
Still, we’ve created a pretty solid place for people to place their games in.

>>67457805
a bunch of crucified mongols stacked around a pyramid does not equate to constant attempts by the damned JSC to send their peers to hell so they can break free of their bindings and get away from the horrible thing they're bound to, nor does the speaker use the mummified remains of NORAD personnel to fight proxy battles between itselves in the corridors of Cheyenne Mountain, whilst also using said mummies to scribe wards and bindings on every flat surface to keep the thing in and weaken their peers, tracing over and over each others designs until the walls, floors and ceilings are covered in incomprehensible eldritch scrawl.
I've read the Fuller Memorandum, if i wanted to borrow from it I'd do so, this is not that.

>>67460310
There’s still a lot of stuff uncovered, and need to get lots of this into into the doc

>>67457669
You see I feel like that just constrains the GM's tookit a bit too much in terms of Zone stuff. If we say that a Zone's true core can be a heap of Zone-metal or a building or an object or a particularly nasty Zone-Beast, then the GM has a lot of things they can do with a Zone's Core. If it's just a hunk of metal it's both giving less power to the GM and generally making Zones a bit less majestic and mythical. Beyond that, it feels more than a little anti-climactic, and not in a good way.

>>67458529
Or it's the Beast itself, which feels a little more fun.

>>67460310
I think there's still stuff we need to address, like interfaction politics and a bit more detail on some of the nations. For example, What's the DoE's deal?

>>67461654
never really felt that zones needed cores or to be destructible but I prefer this interpretation to the lump of metal approach, if it's all just down to a chunk of something then it removes a degree of the mystery of the thing.
Also the Beast being the Zone core is now canon, because fuck you, i made it up and I say so.

>>67461654
>>67461934
In that case, Caerleon was the first to destroy a Zone core of the metal ore type. That way variety of the cores can exist while the hurdle that their Arthur has to overcome stays the same.
After all, it takes a lot more planning to get rid of a massive lump of metal than it is to kill a beast or tears down a building.

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>>67462684
Doesn't Arthur of Caerleon have some kind of mystical sword? What if he found it embedded in the Zone core?

>>67463184
It was one smithed for him, of a very high quality, though he knows this the masses may not, in which case saying that would make him look more impressive

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>>67463184
He claims it was found on a trip into The Zone and it is made out of Zone Metal of some sort. In design it seems to be of late roman, There is no ornementation on the blade although one one side of the hilt is "Cape Mē" and on the other is "Abjice Mē Abice".

This does not mean that it genuinely is Excalibur. Arthur Rex of Caerleon could have had it forged to add legitimacy to his claims in the minds of his citizens over the claims of Brenin Arthur and his wizard.

>>67463184
Maybe that’s what it was. Both he and the Kernow Arthur are rumored to be THE Arthur.

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Have we ever settled what Balor looks like besides a mixture of this...

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>>67463867
...and this?

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>>67463867
He did not have a happy life.

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>>67463964
>and again, with the region held by Balor marked off

>>67345810
Tea sipping stalker

>>67463867
>>67463880
Add scales on the exposed skin and you would pretty much have it.
He pretty much lives in the water of his lake and rules over the snake-like/fish-like Fomorians. He will basically say that in 200 years, his followers are the only good thing to have happened to him since the crash.

>>67463487
>>67463391
Yep, it is claimed to be the real deal, and has served well in the crusades to reclaim infested land

>>67465016
Not much is known about the history of the sword before Arthur got it. It’s quite similar to how Kernow’s Merlin was also unknown.

Whilst it seems a decent chunk of humanity by the present rebuilt around existing cities or towns, in most cases taking on their names, there would be new settlements, especially if too much of the old civilised land had been taken by the zones
Any ideas on that?

>>67465924
They are built up like many buildings from the medieval period were. Lots of wood, brick, and stone. Only difference is that there is a mix of weapons and tech from before the War.
For example, people know what an air conditioner is, but only very rich nobles would be able to maintain one.

>>67466015
Could also mean one or two fresh castles, though such things are hardly a cheap undertaking

>>67466824
Well, it has been 200 years. Leeds definitely didn’t have a big wall to withstand a siege before.

>>67437492
double headed dragon dildo

>>67464034
More roadside picnic + metro than Stalker.

>>67460310
I think one thing we do need to work on is history. We have a lot of older stuff and some more recent things, but there's definitely some stull that still needs working on. For example: Who used to control the territory in northern Scotland that the Icelanders now hold?

>>67471346
Scotland was basically controlled by the various clans before Iceland came in. The island was home to a relatively peaceful conglomeration of towns and villages.

>>67471346
Yeah, relevant history would be good, and higher priority over history that a party would never really be able to know, or be relevant

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Can someone give me the quick rundown on R&R? I’m a retard boy and this seems fun

>>67472626
Slightly fantastical and medieval post apocalypse focussed on the British Isles
Most of the world was fucked up by extra-solar radiation and zones of magic/radiation popping up and spewing out abominations, the isles received the least of the damage but were still fucked up hard
About 200 years later things are starting to look more stable, but much of the land is still claimed or infested by zones, Yorkshire and Lancashire are at each other’s throats again, Icelanders are invading the north and multiple people are claiming to be King Arthur

>>67472626
The basic premise is that in the 1950’s, a place called the “Zone” appeared along the border of East and West Germany. This lead to advancements but due to its location conflict came and escalated into Nuclear War. This caused Zones to appear and spread all over the world.
Britain got off fairly easily, despite what the map may suggest.
200 years have passed since the War, and the Isles has settled into a medieval lifestyle and accepted the fact that they are effectively the only humans in their known world.

>>67472683
Sounds like a hell of a lot of fun. What system do you guys base it off of?

>>67472626
The short version would be it’s the Metro/STALKER/Roadside Picnic style of wasteland and monsters set in a future-Medieval style Britain.

>>67472778
So like S.T.A.L.K.E.R?

>>67472825
Dark Hersey, but more low fantasy. Like the Corruption points are now Radiation exposure, and the closest you get to spells is a Turned Rad-Wizard “casting” radiation to burn others.

>>67472841
Kinda, only the the Zone appeared in the 1950’s before going world-wide.

>>67472887
More capable Changed Ones can do a bit more in zones, and aren’t as bothered by them

>>67472981
Not by much, though. The most capable like Balor and Nessie are able to Change other people into a certain type of Turned, but they can’t do anything truly magical.

>>67473036
Old stuff did have some rare ones capable of stuff like crude telepathy, which someone was trying to use to stand in for radios

>>67472626
There’s quite a bit to go through. Including the cavalry thread that started it all off and this one, there are 18 full threads going over this setting.
Thankfully, there are links to all of them earlier in this thread. Both the ones that got tagged “Radon and Raiders” and the ones that didn’t.
Though you came across this at a good time, cause this is likely to be the last thread. Everything has been pretty much covered.

>>67473049
I remember that. It was some Rad-wizards learning to “talk” to each other with radiation, and Nessie’s connection with their Nimuë.
The standing-in for radios got dropped when the Numbers stations were brought up. Now there are several kingdoms like Cambridgeshire and the USKS that have radios to listen in.

>>67473036
Nessie does cause oddness that can't be explained by radiation.

Most obvious is that no two people can look at it and see the same thing. There is great variation in colour, shape and number and proportion of limbs. Does it have hair, a smooth hide, scales or even feathers? Nobody knows. Photographs both chemical and digital just show indistinct blurry shapes and hand drawn images are as varied as what people see.

Presumably all people see that it has a snout of some sort because The Choosing of Nimuë ceremony the new Nimuë has to give it a scratch on it's snout.

It also remote controls one young woman, designated Nimuë, at all times and swaps for a new one once a year. The former Nimuë afterwards live noticeably longer than average and age much slower. They are also capable of making someone drown even on dry land. Once a new Nimuë is chosen the freed individual remember only feelings of dark and cold of their time under Nessie's will.

The actual Nessie creature has demonstrated at least human level intelligence, but it's hard to say as it spends most of it's time under considerable depths of water.

>>67473199
Agreed. It’s a combination of radiation and the Zones effects. Some zones can warp space/time, Ireland is almost covered in a zone effect of Paranoia, and Paris is a Ghost City.
There is just a noticeable lack of control. It can be predicted like the weather is, which is what the Turingists thinking machines are always doing, but there is no way to completely direct it.

>>67473073
There’s tons of space left and stuff that hasn’t been covered much still, plus we need to organise more of this into the doc and work out rules stuff
I was also going to take a stab at some small-scale map stuff like was done for Cornwall

>>67473130
Whilst some have radios, compact man portable ones for combat are a luxury not all can afford to buy or maintain, whilst those odd chaps who can blast messages into each other’s and your officers’ heads are better than nothing

>>67473409
I think that making a radio that can receive signals is relatively easy, especially with all the zone metals and manufacturing in Warwick and the Isle of Man.
It’s just that people can’t make the equipment required to send out those signals easily. I think only the Isle of Man, the USKS (USE specifically), and the two Colleges have the equipment to do so over a wide area.

>>67473199
>>67473333
The Nimuë are Nessie's only method of communicating with humans and hands above the water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwh3K_UrRpI

>>67474370
They are her only conduit, and work very similarly to them!
Only not evil.

>>67474370
The first Nimuë was created out of an act of kindness. She did help, and even asked for a replacement to be found the next year. Unfortunately the people didn’t understand what they were yet so forced the second Nimuë to take the place.
Nessie did take her over, but got very angry when they realized it was forced. This led to the third Nimuë setting up the proper way to choose, and the second one going nuts and fighting Balor in Ireland.

>>67473073
That's a bit of an exaggeration. We've got quite a bit for England and Ireland, true, but I think we need more detail on the Welsh and Scottish nations (because, lets face it, I'm not sure many people know what the Dominion's deal is), and maybe a little refresher on some of the other smaller factions. I also think we need to start jotting down some more recent events, as in 'Since the Icelanders turned up' recent. Then of course someone actually needs to get all this info down in the doc/a 1d4chan page. So I reckon there's probably another couple of threads needed.

>>67474535
The original mind of the Nimuë is completely blanked out during their time as Nessie's puppet. The reason for all the concern of picking one, is that once they're no longer Nessie's puppet, they'll still have superpowers.

>>67473073
Did all these autists come up with the idea?
Will you guys ever converge the information into one place?

>>67474901
There was some talk of a 1d4chan page being made, but I don’t think anything came of it.
Thankfully, I think this will be the last thread, so it will be much easier to organize without anything new being added.

>>67475632
As others have said there’s still lots uncovered, and a thread would help with organising everything
Hope to take a stab at some map stuff later

>>67475736
We’ve covered just about everything major that the kingdoms could hold for the players as well as the most important moments of history in each region. What should a new thread be about?

>>67476189
What sort of quests players can embark on, what type of weapons/loot players should be getting, and how players can change the setting status quo

I'm interested in this setting but that's a lot of threads to go through.

Has anyone compiled the information presented thus far into some kind of setting guide? Or a wiki?

>>67476189
I direct you attention to these replies
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>>67474553
Also we could probably do with a few more major characters, cause we only have like seven at the moment. Could also do with a bit more local history. Stuff that only really effects one or two nations, you know?

>>67476189
We need to talk about warfare, how we’re gonna make guns, medival weaponry, and zone-affected weaponry balanced.

So history and also rule/stat focus next thread?
Can work out stats for some commonplace stuff to use as a baseline

New thread
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