>>73754612
If you're only pretending, then I'm not interested.

>>73754844
>>73754612

We did this about a month ago and it turned into one of the better shitposting thread /tg/ had for while. Legit made me yearn for the real thing.

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>>73754612
This is now a /watertribe/ thread. Specifically Southern. Wolf Warriors with Black Sun Katara is absolute god tier.

Earthfags and firecucks don't even fucking bother posting ITT.

>>73755102
blue spirit zuko literally dominates every duel he's in. even gainst azula if he manages to get in too close for her to bend at himplease be respectful to all the other nation players, everyone has an OP unit.


that said, earth kingdom only has bumi and toph. otherwise theyre pretty damn awful.
like bumi and metal bender toph carry whole armies by themselves

>>73755102
>southern watercuck
>Trying to act tough
Literally one step above air tribe pacifism. It's only plot fiat that they still exist.

>>73755102
>Water Tribe
>Southern

You were so close, anon.

Northern Water tribe is where it's at. Pakku+Moon Yue is ridiculous.

I've been interested in Foggy Swamp recently though. Anybody have tips on making them work?

>>73754612
You guys seen the previews for the Sozin's Comet campaign?

I do not want to think about how much they're going to scalp us on the new Phoenix King and Avatar State models.

The rules upgrades for the Airships are insane, ground troops are so fucked, and boarding actions are so difficult to pull off.

>>73755246
on the plus side. zuko can now be added to both earth kingdom and watertribe rostere.
with his decent bending, swordplay on par with sokka if not better in some situations and his mobility, hes effectively the most versitile character in the game

>>73755242
Norf is the biggest Mary Sue faction in the game. You get all the perks of South but none of the flavor. Literally Avatar Battles' version of Primaris.

>>73755297
The characters in this expansion are INSANE.

Have you read the White Lotus roster yet?

Jeong Jeong, King Bumi, Master Pakku, Master Piandao, all in one army.

Not to mention Iroh, whose new stats are nothing less than phenomenal.
All the Mastery of his first model, but with increased power, and physical stats to match.

Utter beatstick.

>>73754612
Please play Southern Raiders and get back to me about bad fire nation army.

>>73755492
This is a joke right? The Water bender cages have an insane 12” debuff to ANY water bender even swamp benders. The Southern Raiders were nothing more than a dumb hard counter to water nation lists since the WAAC firefags were complaining meme tier lists were beating them.

>>73755297
>swordplay on par with sokka if not better in some situations
DESU you shouldn't be using Sokka as a front line fighter anyways. He's a lot better if you give him the Tactician feet. Sokka Style and SNEAK ATAAAAAACK are best for getting him out of a tight spot, not for actually engaging your opponent's soldiers.

>>73755553
>>73755543
this. the southern raiders have an overspecialized playstyle. designed to go against one specific faction

the fire nation outcasts are good on paper due to their being made up on f high point units. but the fact that they have the same point costs as their main fire nation roster and lower stats due to their lower tech, theyre very... i dont wanna say bad. but overshadowed overall by other fire nation armies.
the onky good partabout them that cant be beat is their access to all versions of zuko who js consistantly good accross the board

>>73755575
sokka's swordplay abilities make him great in hero vs hero bouts and in full battlefield scenerios though. hes an above average assassin. but unfortunately getting him in possition for a prolonged melee fight is the hard part, yet another unit that cannot for the life of him beat azula

Want to see a really shit army?
Look at all the faggots playing a MODERN South Pole Army.

No benders, no real technology, just stink weapons, good melee skill, and water-terrain dependent flanking.

They're completely dependent on the Team Avatar to do anything, and have to always try to play the objectives and survive just long enough to win.

And there's always that one fag who's trying to convince you to let him use Hama.

>>73754913
Honestly surprised an anon hasn't even written up a basic idea or something, especially with how popular these threads usually are. If this was real it might actually get me into wargaming.

>>73755672
Eh, if I'm gonna use a hero offensively I'd rather just take Katara. She's faster, more hitpoints, and a far better fighter especially if you buy Blood Bending.

I know the Korra expansions are often looked down upon here but we cannot deny that the pro bending specialty game has got to be the best of the best. Remember that dumb one off airbending sport game they tried doing? Absolute train wreck its like they learned for Korra but at the same time the main game has some of the worst bloat next to 40k.

>>73755242
Foggy swamp is so frustrating to build. every time I start putting a list together I end up giving up on it.

At the end of the day their flagship character (hugh) has zero practical synergy with the base units.

>>73755732
It's just so fucking boring.

One waterbender, one firebender, one earthbender.

They should have put more nuance into the rules, because there sure as shit isn't enough room for customization in the characters.

Speaking of which, were are all the special characters?
There's Korra, Bolin and Mako, but who else?

>>73755102
>Water tribe
What a fucking meme. Fire nation users are try hards, Earth Kingdom users care way too much about muh tactics but water tribe is honestly such a fucking a meme. Your units are ass and air nomads with just one (1) flying bison can wreck your shit.

>>73755726
not every water tribe list has room for blood bender katara, especially when youre on a budget,i can only afford 1k or less games

>>73754913
Wait that was fake? I thought there was a ATLA wargame this whole time.

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TIME IS AN ILLUSION

AND SO IS DEATH

EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED

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>>73755883

Yeah, like I said, was one of the best thread /tg/ had in a long time.

> Spiritfaggottery was hated.
> people disputing Fire tanks vs Earth Tanks.
> best army/character well established as pic related.

>>73755773
tano , who's abilitypies were all to buff generics.

it was a fun wide game but it was so shortlived they only made four fucking characters

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You know, I've been wondering about making my own east-Asian fantasy setting, largely based off of Avatar. Haven't been able to get much anywhere, but let me know what you think.

What I have so far is adding a Polynesian styled culture whose motif is 'spiritbending' (they can't so much bend as they are much more focused on the general spirit side of things, so they are less of a fifth tribe, and more of an extra addition), animal-folk that can shapeshift into different animals, though only one per person, a minority in all the major kingdoms, and making the water-tribe less arctic, and more Siberian/Mongolian, so there's more going on with them.

Any other thoughts? Ever had any minor issues with the universe you wanted addressed, or east-Asian mythology visited?

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I love it when metalbendingfags forget that Sokka's space sword upgrade ignores armor bonuses. Nice metal suit, loser!

>>73756012
>antibender specialist with good stun and.the only mobility that exceeds azula's

yeah, she's pretty much the most frustrating hero to go up against. thankfully she cant kill worth a crap.

then again, her synergy with the two best persuit characters in the game ....

>>73756026

Spiritbending is already a thing in the lore tho. And it's not about shapeshifting, it's about stealing bending from others, or giving it to them, or fixing their mind, maybe? Not to clear about it.

Cmon bros buy the new earth bender mech expansion Kuravas army is gonna own all the tournaments.

>>73756187
At that price point? Come on bro, that's extortion.

The only reason I was considering it was because of Lava Bender Bolin, but now that you can use him with other factions why bother?

And my god, that giant Mech?
They must be high thinking anyone's going to use it.
One boarding action and it's gone.

>tfw a guy got himself banned from my lgs because my young korra triggered his autism
He went on this semi-coherent rant about sjws, gays, minorities, etc. and just wouldn't stop. Young korra isn't even that good a unit

here's a one thousand point land based fire nation outcast list i've been seeing good results for, tell me what you think.

-zuko(80 points)
*blue spirit mask (20 points)
*twin dao (10 points)
-10 rhino riders (200 points)
-15 halberdiers (90 points)
-dragon of the west iroh (115 points)
-two trebuches (200 points)
-10 deaths' head firebenders(160 points)
-10 deaths head swordsmen (120 points

>>73756298
Did he play Southern Raiders? Its always Southern Raider players with the OOP metal water bender cages.

>>73756319
He was playing the standard fire nation army with zhao, but with his units painted red and black instead of red and gold

>>73756354
standard fire nation guys are all edgy try hards thats why i avoid their playstyle and stuck with outcasts

the idea of a 'sympathetix' fire nation faction kind of bugged me when the boy in the iceburg expansion came out but it also allowed for some prettty cool people to get into the most mechanically interesting faction.

Why do they waste the time and resources promoting these side factions and dropping them? Even Korra got it.

>Swamp Benders
>Pirates
>Sand Benders
>Equalists
>Sun Warriors

All hyped and forgotten with very little new releases

>>73756070
No, the two are separate- there's a bunch of kitsunes and nekomata's and such that can shapeshift back and forth from being foxes and cats.

The spirit bending tribe is a separate thing.

>>73756465
not every side faction was forgotten.

fire nation outcasts are popular, and the wouthern raiders are steadily becoming less shit through new units.

the dai li are extremely good, counter to their crappy bloated main faction.

and the foggy swamp waterbenders havent gotten an update in forever /because/ they were so damn good to start with.

>>73756465
They're campaign tie-ins for narrative players.
You know, the people who drop stuff on every single story-model they bring out?

Make a few models, hype them so everyone buys them, then move on.
Availability of source material means the development time is very short and cheap.

Note how you barely see anything beyond characters that got screen time.

>>73756465
Sun Warriors have Dragons that’s only something Korra-Era firebenders get and it’s restricted to old Zuko.

>>73756572
Yeah, but remember how Fire Nation Generals get bonuses against them?

You feel so shit bringing them, and watching them get downed by some arrogant fucking 14 year old.

>>73756602
thats why you dont let them engage with the fire bending heroes.

>>73755881
Not to mention you can't use her bloodbending unless it's the day of an irl full moon, which is based but also crazy impractical

>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who play Age of Korra
Shameful.

>>73756923
It had a good start but the bloat and new rules just ruined it

>>73756627
This. They have a pretty severe weakness against certain high-ranked Fire Nation characters but they can and will absolutely mop the floor with other tribes. If you can bust out dragons against a water or earth army it can be pretty spectacular.

I can't believe they're recasting the elite Avatar sculpts into shitty resin ktis. Poor Avatar Roku sculpt is going to have sooo much flash and trim lines. Better pick up your pewter versions now before they're gone.

>>73756308
why would you pick mask and dao on zuko for a loyalist firebender army

>>73757472
i literally said they were fire nation outcasts

>>73757488
was it exiles that were loyalist then? I dont play fire nation

>>73757502
the terms were used interchangeably when the game was young, i use the term outcasts because because thats what was used in the boh in the iceburg starter box.

>>73755692
someone did write up a small doc for some ideas, don't have it saved

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Name a more broken, gimmicky, unfun to play against unit. I'll wait.

>>73757574
azula.

well, azula from the book two sets. she got nerfed mid book 3

>>73755672
why would you EVER use sokka 1v1 when he gets such ridiculous teamwork bonuses

>>73754612
If you want to run a Fire Nation army, you need to run Dragon Warriors. Every other unit is overcost & literally built to job.

>>73757604
I wouldnt really call azula gimmicky when her "gimmick" is just being an unhittable beatstick

>>73757574
Did you forget Amon already? Unrestricted Master-Class Bloodbender, capable of removing bending from your units unless you had an Avatar on your roster.

Fucking Korra-setting power-creep.

>>73757657
>age of korra
though I agree, especially since he leads a whole group of FUCKING STUNNING INFANTRY REEEE

>>73757631
the thing was, her gimmick was originally 'zuko but better' but the thing was, zuko was , as the lorefriends know, a fucking failure in the lore, while on the tabletop he had pretty good match ups against every named unit but aang, or katara if she had the terrain advantage. so when azula was introduced they essentially took his blue spirit build's mobility and lobbed it onto his base build's firebending. and accidentally created a/LITERALLY/ unkillable character that was only touched by a character that at the time needed her to be in the party to be used.

azula vs azula for the entirety of the book two era was the meta thanks to a combo of ty lee and azula

>>73757610
To be fair the buffs he got in book 3 were insane. His space sword lets him ignore armor saves and he can ranged chi block with his boomerang now, which completely removes the otherwise broken Combustion Man hero from the meta. Don't forget that he has initiative on par with Piandao now too, so in most cases he'll strike first in melee. The main problem is just getting him there, which is hard to do without bender support. He's definitely better in a team but he can more than hold his own in a fight now and outside of a few master benders like the Avatars, Ozai and Azula, he's a great character killer if he can get in to actually fight.

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>that player who uses The Avatar in a casual game

>>73757727
man what were they thinking releasing THREE super avoid heros at the same time *in the same army*
I know mai gets ignored because she was overshadowed by ty lee and azula, but she's a crazy assassin that's almost as hard to kill as they are

>>73757789
the only exception to this ill make is book one aang

>>73757809
it was a lore thing i think, they needed an evil versioj of team avatar as well as a reason to make zuko go from.the badguy with an excuse to someome you can root for genuinely

>>73757852
>its a lore thing
I know they really wanted to tell a story, but lore should always come second to gameplay imo

>>73757884
>>73757884
well thankfully they realized their mistake for the boilijg rock expansion and wound up lettijg ty lee and mai into armies without azula, and nerfed azula to a point where she and zuoo are more or less equal

>>73757917
Remember how they justified it as Zuko getting stronger with the Dancing Dragons expansion, when he didn't get anything out of it? Like they went on and on in the lore segment of the book about Zuko learning the Sun Warrior bending style but they made no change to his stats and just nerfed Azula instead.

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>>73757574
>broken, gimmicky, unfun
Please do not say such things about my waifu.

>>73757988
I mean they gave him the calm trait at least
and it was even better since they removed it from azula

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>>73757997
>teehee improved chi blocking
>teehee fastest movement in the game
>teehee ignore armor
Tyleefags belong on a cross.

>>73757988
the dancing dragon was actually a special rule found in.the book. sadly its underutilized due to how expensive it is for what it does.

basically, the dancing dragon stance is a passive ability that makes him immune to fire bending attacks. that combined with his lighting redirection ability made him the best fire bender killer in the game

>>73758044
Would it make you feel better knowing I only run her in my siege of Ba Sing Se narrative list?

>>73758137
That's agreeable, so long as you don't use her Kyoshi Warrior template.

>>73758044
she only partially ignores armor, metalbender toph with the suit or huu >foggy swamp block the stun

>>73758056
>Lightning Redirection
What kind of a brainless 'tard would actually throw lightning anywhere near a renegade Zuko, it's just coming straight back at you unless you get really lucky. But that's not worth the risk.

Zuko is best treated as a bodyguard character for a higher value bender, like Katara or Aang.
Which for his, is a bit of a waste.

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>>73757604

Azulafagģing is honestly the only reason why pic related isnt as superfluous as it is broken. Pretty much the same can be said about almost every Spirits, tho.

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>>73758196
>zuko is so bad at teamwork any time he redirects lightning for an adjacent character it counts as if it hit him

>>73758196
azula. and ozai
their bending checks are the only omes that are mathmatically capable of busting through zuko's lightning redirection. but eventben its a one in ten chence of actually succeeding.

yoir luck would have to be asscheeks for that lezel of failure

>>73758208
Oh man, if you're playing a campaign and can get the Black and White Spirit on your roster, he wrecks fucking face.

Those anti-Fire-Nation buffs man.

>>73757574
Well, Equalist Chi-Blockers. They basically hard counter literally any bending unit in the game, though honestly, only good unit in the Equalist roster. Earth Empire has all their vehicles but better.

>>73754913
Anyone got a link?

>>73758223
>>73757610
That brings up a question I havent seen answered
How well do sokka and zuko pair up?
It seems like zuko only gets paired with iroh or katara if anyone at all

If you’re not running best girl Azusa lists are you even trying?

>>73758169

Really anon. If it's a choice between taking her Chase model and giving her that useless overcosted Kyoshi Warrior Armor upgrade from LITERALLY THE FIRST EXPANSION (when they for some reason thought giving melee Water Tribals an actual armor stat was going to break everything), or just using using her Comet version... try to be more understanding.

>>73758380
the boiling rock expansion made zuko synergize with all of the cast but toph , for some reason

>>73758380
Considering Zuko's specialty is Ranged suppression, he can open holes for Sokka to enter like its nothing.
As>>73758426 said, He synergizes pretty well with everyone, letting them go in for the kills. He still works well with Toph, but they dont really support eachother, just that their moveset is complementary naturally. Actually the worst one he works with is Aang, because they both have the same general tactics- ranged suppression. Even though Aang gets some direct damage from his water and earth bending, he still uses air and fire in a very naturally defensive manner. Zuko, meanwhile, stays in offensive suppression.
So yeah, Zuko and Sokka work great together, if you keep Sokka focused on always pushing into holes Zuko opens up.

The only question I have is why did the kyoshi warriors get mainly defensive tactics and why doesn't suki trade buffs with sokka?

>>73755620

Look at it this way, anon. If they've got a Water Tribe list, be it 1st Edition, Northern Siege, Foggy Swamp, Comet, even 2nd Expansion Korra- you probably win. If they're Lotus-ing or Gaanging, you can make their shit not work so good, call it an even fight if you can keep their Zuko off of you (you gotta keep him surpressed, and yeah putting anti-Zuko resources into your build seems inefficient because they just don't apply to anything else, but it's worth it- you're that advantaged). Fire... ok, you've got a fight. A bad one. But the outcome isn't certain- it's a disadvantaged grind, not a curbstomp. Their jaws don't have much of a bite against you.

Ironically, what you have to watch out for is pretty much any kind of Earth Kingdom. You're basically doing what they expect you to do- only you're much, much worse at it than they were expecting.

>yeah, I main Southern Raiders

>>73758573
because suki and sokka are basically the same statsheet. only with sokka getting better weapons and suki getting better armor.

theyre both leadership based characters so their buffs don't work on eachother

>>73758650
okay, but ek is still fairly mediocre and no one but total newbies run them to any serious capacity. their only good subfaction are the ones that turn heel and join the fire nation in the book three boxes

>>73755210
Blue spirit Zuko is a lot weaker if you actually follow the rules, which state that he doesn't firebend.
The point is to have a hero unit with less restrictions in return for less power. The mask disguises his true identity, meaning he can be on any side of a conflict, not just fire nation. But it also means he can't use any of Zuko's firebending moves.
Combine him with Kyoshi Warriors for some good ambush manoeuvres, but don't pit him against Azula. Rules as written lighting redirection is illegal for him.

>>73755575
>Using non-benders in your army
Even if it's viable, I refuse. It breaks immersion, they shoeldn't be able to complete with actual magic users.

>>73758928
thats what i mean. blue spirit zuko plays to the skills that are unique to zuko. and thats his badass sword skill

bending requires a fair deal of distance for most high lethality attacks, so of you manage to catch an azula off guard and force her into a duel its game over for her!

>>73755210
Okay first off:
Fuck you, EK4L

Second off: Earthbenders got Lava bending. Lavabending changes the game.

>>73758928

>Rules as written lighting redirection is illegal for him.

That was never given an official ruling. He counts as Zuko for construction purposes, when Lightning bending was first errata'd in after that one Agni Kai con tournament farce they said Zuko had it. It has nothing to do with having a firebending ability, that's just the explanation fluff.

>>73759035

>lighting redirection

>>73755773
Kuvira with Meteor Weaponry.

Fuckin Varrick with the mech suit battalion.

First Avatar Wan

The Flying dude.

>>73758928
>>73758973
I'm just waiting for the option to be able to switch him in for his standard model once enough of my units have been depleted. A second wind as such.

I've never played, but I'm familiar with the points system. I know there aren't many Air units to choose from. Are they generally high point values since they don't have many units? I'm guessing having Aang as an Avatar unit probably means he's high points.

Wish this was real and not some gay larp :(

>>73755883
Yeah that happened to me when /tg/ did the same thing with a fallout wargame. We even got some rules out of it but I don't know where to find them.

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The Boulder is the lynch pin of my earth bender mercenary army

>>73759148
FUCK THE BOULDER IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD!
generally earth kingdom has great heroes, but their basic units are garbo

So how do you get around the fact Aang can't take anyone off the board?
All I can do is use Aang to wear the enemy down then have someone else finish them off, which gets rather aggravating after a while.

>>73759148
I'm glad they updated so that the Boulder's over his conflicted feelings and can now fight Toph.

>>73759175
>but their basic units are garbo
The Dai Li are dope if you want a more elite army.

>>73757809
I always find it sad how Mai gets ignored because she is honestly TERRIFYING if you know how to use her. She has nearly as good movement as Ty Lee, highly accurate ranged attacks and ranged immobilization if her target is against any kind of wall, and truly unparalleled dodge.

>>73759292
i have made it clear the dai li are great in sevberal posts. but a lot of their cheaper units that are mwant to be the standard earth nation army are just the same guys with different costumes and names if yoj wanna play main branch earth nationals its not gonna end well.

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All these benderfag players talking a big game until the equalists throw down

>>73759319
>a lot of their cheaper units that are mwant to be the standard earth nation army are just the same guys with different costumes and names
We all know they're fodder, Brainwashing Long Feng is where it's actually at. Get the Lake Laogai expansion and enjoy turning your opponent's units against them. Unlike Hama, you can't break this control with just high enough waterbending.

>>73759390
that only works as a pre-battle ability.

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>>73759243
If you're trying to use Aang as a sweeper, there's your problem. Aang's about maneuvering enemy units around. He's area control, not a finisher.
>>73759402
Not unless you invest in the Laogai base unit. It's expensive and only has the one ability, but it lets you take that pre-battle and trigger it mid-battle. It's a huge gamechanger when done right.

>>73759410
>they wrote themself into a corner in the early history of the game by killing off the air nomads.
>make wannabe airnomads

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Is hawky a worthwhile upgrade for Sokka?

I feel like his space sword is already so expensive and almost an auto include that theres no room for the more fun equipment

>>73759133
Well, for awhile there, Aang was the ONLY air unit, but yeah, they are really good at crowd control, but are okay against heavier, direct attack units like earth benders and terrible against hero units in general.

And Aang as the avatar isn't as strong as you would think, he is much better off focusing on either air bending or going avatar state, at which point only a handfull of hero units can even touch him. For a good all around unit with decent leadership buffs, though, might as well include him.

>>73759175
Boulder is fine, but did you see Bumi's hero unit drop in the latest wave? When you put him at least 12" from any other ally unit, he gains a plus 2 to every single roll at the cost of one wound. fucking broken.

>>73759305
She synergizes with Zuko the same way Sokka does as I stated in >>73758573, but without having to worry about closing with the enemy. The part that holds her back is the morale debuff to nearby allies at price of increasing their movement speed. Kinda rough tradeoff if you ask me.

>>73759319
Dai Li are perfect anti-hero units and work great with tylee for going after those big point benders, but they dont have any staying power. Masters like White Lotus Pakku and Iroh decimate them, however.

Speaking of Iroh, Did you know that there is a rule from 1e that if you drink a cup of tea at the table, he gets a +1 to morale checks?

>fucking captcha i guess google cars keep hitting parking meters because that is the 4th time tonight ive had to pick those.

>>73759485
1e was weird

like base box iroh had a rule where you rolled a d3 and depending on the result he'd either take an action as anyhero unit. give a morale boosting proverb to zuko, or do nothing

>>73759485
Bumi is going to get nerfed within a week, or outright banned.
>>73759461
A +1 range for 10 points is pretty good, especially WITH the space sword. for 30 points, it almost makes sokka broken.

>>73759346
Imagine being an AoKfag.

>>73759550
Yeah, but those types of rules can make the game fun.

>>73755210
Earth Kingdom has fucking Dai Li, who gives a shit about dueling when you can field multiple Dai Li for the same cost as a duelist and they'll instantly shut down major threats

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>Brings Team Avatar in Black Sun loadout
>doesnt pay for Appa's Armor

fucking waac fags man

>>73759599
the dai li also became fire nation exclusive for recent tournaments

>>73754612
This thread is art.
Its too bad that the Air nation armies were destroyed in 3rd edition. They were busted dude. Monk Geyatso's fruit pie artillery could disrupt formations and damage defense due to the "blinded by gooey center" status effect.
Also if you did it within 10 units of a Leemur-Bat nest their movement points were cut in half for the next 5 turns.
I know why they were removed, but I miss the old days baka.

>>73759134
(we all do anon)

>>73758044
I have a huge crush on Toph since that offshoot porn game based the tabletop, so I always take her even when shes not tactically viable.
Does anyone else have this problem?

Was there anything more unexpected than Sokka becoming so fucking viable?

>>73755726
Dude the morale penalty you get for using blood bending with her is such a deterrent unless your enemy just HAPPENS to be fielding fire nation and has Yon-Ra in their roster. If I'm going for a bloodbending roster I'll just take Hama. Shes less points and better at that particular moveset anyway, so I can afford Paku and Wolf Warriors.

>>73759824
How is she not tactically viable? The only units she doesnt work well against are, what, air bender units, sand benders, and airships?

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>WHEN WILL NICK RELEASE THE AIR NOMADS ARMIES?!!
Fuck these people. Avatar getting on Netflix is the worst thing that happened to this game

>Fuckers complaining about air units

Air units deserve to remain in the eternal dumpster. Being able to suffocate people are range is fucking retarded, you can't defend against it and you have to hope you can incapacitate the fuckers before going unconscious. It's also a fucking hard counter to fire-benders because they need to breath to fuel their bending - it was such an absurd ability that they literally wrote the lore so that the fire nation genocided the air nomads (as they deserved)

>>73759861
>Actually spending the points for Hama

She's so fuckin old and weak for the slight chance of rolling for a full moon

>>73759912
Bruh, don't you remember the utter shitshow when the movie hit?

The unrepentant shitposting from the rest of the board drove regulars away in droves.

We never really recovered.

>>73759912
dude just read the thread and try not to shitpost too hard. it breaks the fragile immersion we have going. we already mentioned air nomads earlier

>>73754612
>not playing Ozai’s Favored
>not fielding Azula and Ty Lee to shut down Omashufags

>>73759928
Lol, do you remember that homebrew some Earthshitter wrote, where every Earthbender could force enemies to make a save or get sucked underground?

>>73755210
>letting Blue Spirit get within melee
That’s just a shit tier Fire Nation playing. Player should have bombarded him with benders.

>>73759992
literally fuck off, Blue Spirit infiltrates fucking Yuyan archer bases and normal Zuko snuck his way into both the Earth Nation AND Water Tribe capitals, he can get in melee whenever the fuck he feels like it

>FLGS wants to do a campaign
>cool
>first game, event is Sozin’s comet
>most of the store are running some variation of Fire Nation
>I went Dai Li
Those are 6 hours of getting my ass beat I’m never getting back

>>73759893
I mainline her in all my earth kingdom armies but they always use her counters like Ty Lee for Fire Nation or water tribe armies using their ice-ground to remove her feet-vision. I'm trying to figure out how to counter this.
>>73759944
Well if you don't roll full moon you can't use bloodbending anyway until the stupid retcon for the LoK armies but who honestly plays by the new rules, lmao. I just take her for 6th edition and before rulebook armies because when you roll a full moon shes better. If not shes basically a mid level waterbender hero so its not a total waste. She still has the deception buff vs Fire Nation armies.

>>73760071
>stupid retcon for the LoK armies
its literally two fucking characters and you're restricted to only ever picking one, if you're gonna criticise at least get it correct

>>73760071
Anon everyone tries to field a counter to Toph if they aren’t running her because she’s just that good. 2+ bending and having a bonus to vehicles is just fucking good

>>73760099
I mean if you're playing a water tribe army by the LoK armies you literally have to take them or you lose because of the massive buffs they gave all the other armies. Every firebender unit can lighteningbend now? You can get an entire army of metalbenders just by spending dirt cheap points on mid-level metalbender units, because apparently metalbending is just an upgrade now and not unique to heros? Not to mention how the air nomad armies have that roll before battle to turn literally any nonbender into an airbender and then turn them to your side.
Waterbenders honestly have to field Amon or his brother or they get fucked on. The entire LoK rulebook is a mess me and my friends just ignore it unless someone insists on playing one of their armies.

>>73760122
I dunno man maybe I'm just bad at fielding Toph. I try to go for more defensive builds for Earthbender armies but she kinda doesn't work for those.

>>73760122
Plus the only hard counter is airships, and those are a points sink that you just can't fit in a whole bunch of games, or relying on terrain factors.

Funniest fucking thing I've ever seen was someone recklessly charge Toph through sand, right into Sandbenders. I mean what the hell did you expect to happen.

>>73755772
Foggy Swamp is all about zoning. I wrote an article about it in WL once. Also remember the previous edition units are still legal, some people tend to forget that. Get Huu in the center, his movement is shit but using your boaties for rivertide is worth it, then circle the enemy with your smaller units. The stacks you get are insane with the increased stagger chances for each waterbending attack. So when building what I look at is movement and attack range more than anything, because you can forget having tanks (except for Huu, protecting the rest with entangle) or dealing damage.

>>73755969
I will smoke your swamp tree you unwashed nigger.

>>73760163
Airbenders are her other hard counter but in the 100 Year War edition the only one is Aang and he's the avatar so he's just a hard counter to everything anyway. There are ways around Toph besides that but they're gimmicky, like Azula getting a good roll off on lightning can oneshot her from across the map if she's not running Zuko to redirect, and Ty Lee can chi block her if she can get in to do it. Sokka can do a lot of damage if he can get in but it's almost impossible without support from another bender, and at that point you might as well just run a real counter to Toph.

>>73755692
quick and easy enough to adapt to my own system, but I'm not going to waste time on models I can't profit off of.

>>73754612
Hey guys what contrast colors should I use for Zuko's scar? Also I just finished air brushing my Fire Nation Battle Ship, it looks great!

>>73760289
pics with timestamp.

Relatively new player but I run a Fire Nation Navy list with Zhao as my leader, Captain in low point games Admiral in higher point games, and I'm getting wrecked by my friend who plays Earth Kingdom. I know the Fire Nation Navy sub-faction is not great against Earth Kingdom in general but I really like their roster and deployment rules. Fire Nation usually has some on field artillery to help against Turtle Kingdom but I have to use the Off Shore Bombardment rules. They're a mixed bag against Earth kingdom (travel time but bigger blast radius and damage) but it's so expensive and the Navy has hardly any good armor piercing choices for infantry, and what limited cav they get.

Since I can't find anything on this... Can Ty Lee steal items from allied units? Because giving her Zook's Blue Spirit Mask to give her improved stealth sounds... interesting.

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when are they adding Dai Li political commissars and Earthbender Royal Guards anti-retreat blocking detachments? atm the earth kingdom is great at anti-hero and area denial but their basic infantry is laughably bad. with more buff units, mixed earth faction armies (the best armies) would become way more competitively viable.

>>73760377
to start winning, join your friend in the best faction.

>>73760418
If I remember the text says enemy unit, now that doesn't mean you can't steal an enemy Zuko's Blue Spirit Mask. That might be my favorite jank counter to Blue Spirit now.

>>73759134
You can make it real

>>73760438
I agree EK has such a huge quality jump between their standard soldiers and benders vs the elite stuff. Kinda why I don't play them and went with Fire Nation. I prefer a generally higher quality of troop vs the blob of conscripts blocking for their heroes. I thought Dai Li and Royal guards were out but you just couldn't play them in the same army for stupid reason.

>>73759485
The main thing with Mai is that she was released alongside the completely broken Azula and the pure cheese that is Ty Lee. Add on the fact that the entirety of Book 2 and most of Book 3's meta was Azula+Ty Lee rocket tag and it's not hard to understand why a hero that is fairly powerful and balanced like Mai would get completely ignored. That being said, if you're not running Azula Mai is usually a better option than Ty Lee depending on your playstyle, and almost always a better option if you're up against a ranged heavy opponent.

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R8 my setup
2x Outcast Royal Procession
2x Komodo Rhino artillery
10x Renegade Fire nation soldiers
(Heroless games are the funnest)

>>73760253
If you're running LoK models you can field Republic City Police. They get the morale bonus for having a Beifong with 10 inches. They're a nice screen to protect Toph from people running Ty Lee, Blue Spirit or Zaheer(pre-bending model)

>>73760438
Eh, its the downside. OUr general infantry are laughable but we have one of the best heroes in game. Dai Li can lock down hero characters fucking hard. On top of that we can alter the terrrain with our benders, unless its North or South pole map but only waterfags insist only playing there.

my fire nation army atm, debating on spending good boy points on tendies or more models.

3x War Balloon
1x Yuyan Archer squad
1x Trebuchet
15x Fire Nation Swordsmen
20x Firebenders

>>73756465
Equalists are fucking great despite only having a limited release with no follow-up. Chi blockers are a hard counter to most bending heavy armies and have access to bikes and the bolas for mobility and range options. Lieutenant can toe to toe most bending heroes and Amon is an absolute fucking beast who fucks avatars into the dirt.
Protest rabble are garbage, but they're some of the cheapest chaff in the game.

Having a grand total of 3 units and 2 heroes in total is a fucking joke and they should hurry up and release Hundun, but it's all worth it just to see some fucking neckbeard weep tears of piss about "fucking Korra factions" every time I use Amon to throw his Katara to her death or remove Aang's bending and have him mobbed to death by protestors.

>>73754612
I hear they're Airbendering the swampbenders soon. Why do they do this?! Removing the funnest factions and mini-factions from the game?

I love playing on the Ember Island map. I even got the alt. models in their swim suits for Azula and Ty Lee.

>>73761190
I too love playing on the Ember Island map and got the alt. models of the Ember Island Players.

>>73756465
Swamp benders if you going Team Avatar. You lose some faction bonuses but they combo really well with Jet's goons.

>>73759016
Keep that fucking Korra supplement out of here. OG ATLA only.

>>73759016
Its two hero characters. One of which who doesn't have great faction support. Congrats I guess.

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>>73761172
Because Swampbenders, despite being awesome, don't really have anywhere else to go in the range without venturing into "made for the game" territory and bruh fuck having a repeat of that stupid god damn bagdermole cavalry situation.

They were pretty clearly only intended as part of a Team Avatar Allies list rather than as a standalone force, but they keep making the mistake of creating minor factions that are way more interesting than the main forces (and no one outside of reddit wants to play TAA armies).

>>73759016
>hurr durr just use Ghazan
>a character locked into Red Lotus
>a faction that consists of 5 heroes (one of which has 0 synergy in Red Lotus) and no units

Good luck scoring a single objective.
Red Lotus is complete trash. I wish they were good because they have some of the most interesting mechanics in the game, but holy shit unless it's a straight deathmatch against a Team Avatar list, you're absolutely fucked.

>>73759852
Everyone sleeps on non-bending characters because everyone wants to do cool kung fu magic

>>73761266
lmfao stay mad lolicon faggot

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>>73754913
Hey! I was the OP of those older threads. I haven't worked on the game in a while but here's what I cobbled together back then. Probably going to work on it again sometime.

>>73761453
Hey now there's Fallen Lotus infantry for Red Lotus. Then you can you use Tarlock's watertribe and Vaatu with them. They're still garbage but its more than five heroes.

With the book 3 buffs to Sokka and the introduction of Piandao is a benderless White Lotus army viable now? I know they changed the ruling to allow Sokka to slot into WL armies without breaking their mono faction bonuses now, and he's a great force multiplier for Lotus Blades and Piandao. With some Lizardeel cavalry you can field a pretty quick strike force that can flank from the side of the board and provide a distraction for Sokka and Piandao to get into melee range with.

>>73761143
Look, I never had a problem with Equalists until they started showing up in mixed faction lists with fucking benders.

If your list has any Avatar and a 'counts-as-Amon' you need to quit yourself. It's not even good, there's no synergy what soever and you're blowing out a good 60% of your deployment points on two figures.

Some guy at my FLGS got metal BENT by my cops list and actually cried. He didn't have any models under 300 points; what did he expect me to do?

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>Run Aang-era airbenders against friend's Korra-era airbenders
>None of our units can hit each other
>We both end up bottling out and he won because of a specific tournament rule to prevent draws
>mfw 15 minute game is drawn out to an hour and a half because LOL AIRBENDERS

>>73761935
Fielding some chi-blocker squads as discount Ty-Lee sounds great. Sure you can't call them equalists unless you bend the fluff to have Amon doing some 4D chess or say they were mind-broken into following Azula.

>>73761960
Yeah okay. But like if you're going to build big-damn-heroes lists, just special rule Tarlok onto your list. Blood-bending doesn't benefit more models anyways and if you play your cards right you have two or more squads at your mercy for a whole turn.

People want to run these snowflake rainbow comps then have the gall to call me a timmy for running LoK Toph on my list sometimes. It's not my fault they keep forgetting she ignores LoS; they're the ones that keep charging into 16''. They're they same people who were crying to nerf boomerang for 3 editions.

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>>73761935
Mixed factions list are pure cancer. I'm a huge fag for AoK factions but even I can see that the Fog of Lost Souls Supplement's "hurr durr faction restrictions block my chakras" rules were bullshit. There's a reason the Agni-Kai Tournament Circuit ruleset doesn't include it.

>>73761960
Kill yourself Fogfag

>>73761502
I mean, it does make sense with the Unalaq connection, but I'd still rather they just gave us some generic Red Lotus initiates. Fuck it, I might as well finish painting my Zaheer P'li then. I've already painted Ghazan's lava terrain effects, literally just sprayed them red and drybrushed them orange then black, looks good enough

Fuck anyone who uses either Vaatu or that absolutely retarded Dark Avatar model in a Red Lotus force though. Peak retard.

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Man, the Earth Kingdom army rocks. They're a bolder army that rewards dirty tactics, so long if you find the player with the right stones to run them. Most people chalk it up to lucky rolls but their defense is a concrete line that's hard to erode, getting through them is like marching through mud. Getting my army painted was a real milestone, too. After a few victories in my local tournament my upcoming opponents were petrified.

>>73761935
I thought equalists couldn't be fielded with benders with the exception of Amon. Freedom/Equalists is fucking wild dude.

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>>73762073
you better quit it with these puns or we're gonna have a quarry to settle.

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>>73754612
What is best era guys? Don't even bother saying Aang or Korra era because I like actually having air nomands in my army.

I'm a Roku Chad myself
>Fire nation industrialization meaning they actually have their sweet ass tanks but not their OP airships
>No metal bending BS making machines useless
>Air Nomands at full strength
>Water tribe still water tribe but you aren't punished for theming after Souther only
>Earth kingdom still have their meme tanks for fans of the meme tanks.

>>73762090
Chi blockers actually don't have the faction keyword for some reason, so you can run them wherever you can special rule them in. You won't be able to run them as troops though, so you're not going to be looking at more than one squad except at absolutely gigantic point values.

You can still attach them to nonbending elites on certain lists. I've been toying with the idea of running Ty-Lee, Chi-blockers and a Chi-blocker-Kyoshi Warriors on an Open list, but I don't think it would be fun to play against, even if I didn't use any benders.

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>>73762073
I laughed, clever anon.

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>>73762126
>mfw the last Roku set released was over three years ago, Nickelodeon only markets Korra now

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>>73762104
What's with the salt? You sound gravelly, probably from all the tears from getting your goofy ass smashed until your stone-cold sober. Or maybe you want to be slated for another lesson? After the dust settles you'll find yourself back in the stone age where you belong, you old fossil.

I've got 100 points left to spend and I feel my army really needs a leader. Do I get Sokka or Hakoda?

I mean Sokka has worse stats but he does have the Genius trait. And I do love me some weird ass ambush deployment.

>>73762241
It's not fair.... I don't want to be reliant on getting heroes for air bending. Or worse, after harmonic convergence fodder air benders.

>>73762267
Get Sokka for puns of damage. He is simply more versatile and can adapt to unforeseen stuff the enemy army might throw at you.

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>>73759568
Season 1 was ok. Amon had a good set up but botched the landing. It pretty much went to shit immediately after. Though ill admit i love Korrasami but thats because i loved it when the puritans threw a shit fit about lesbians in muh kids show. reminds me of the good ol days when it was the right being censorious rather than the left

>>73762267
>>73762299
>Sokka WB army
Absolute memers
>fail leadership roll
>gets steamrolled by fire tanks because your army auto-retreats by battleshock
every. single. time.

Go Hakoda anon, I want some resistance in the next tournament its seriously not fun to win every match anymore.

>>73762241
You’re telling me. I’m still waiting on an actual avatar kyoshi model for my fangirls. I’m thinking of kitbashing one out of a yue, and spare armor/weapons maybe attach a banner from a rhino onto her back.

>>73762319
I mean you can have your lesbian couple if you want it, but from where I stopped watching Legend of Korra it didn't really make a lick of sense. Seemed like the kind of pairings a YA writer makes in the second book of their series because they hope it captures the fujoshi audience.

I will admit the 'puritans (throwing) a shit fit' was fairly amusing all the same.

>>73755210
>Zuko
>OP

ok lads, do I go with blocks of Royal Earthbender Guards and hope the enemy has no CC, or do I roll with Earth Kingdom tanks carrying normal troops?

>>73762446
Tanks. Honestly you can never go wrong with EB tanks. Relatively cheap (compared to FB tanks at least) and practical. Guards are cool, but that’s all they really bring to the table. Then again rule of cool so why not

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>tfw no real ATLA tabletop game

>>73759652
>Tournaments
Fuck WAACfag, it's loyalist Dai Li time !

>>73762504
There is no war in Ba Sing Se

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>>73762499
There's barely any not!avatar settings. All I can think of is Last of the Lacers.

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>>73754612
Azula looked better without make up.

>>73762624
>Azula with her hair down and sleeping gown
hnggg

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>>73754612
guys, I have mixed feelings about the company's statement to be more inclusive, I'm not a racist or nothing like it, but why do you have to go and add, whites to our setting, and from rumors I saw on warseer, they are going to add atom bending to these new white guys. Like, if you enjoy the setting, then you should love it as it is, there is no need to go and change it just to appease a very small screeching fan base.

anyway on topic, how are they going to add atom bending, and make it not too powerful, I got mixed feelings about this, feels like spirit bending 2.0, and we all know how that ended.

>>73762604
Seems like such a shame, would be an amazing setting for a skirmish game

>>73762648
Don't worry about it. They started mentioning it at least 3 editions ago and there's still nothing to show for it. Even then it's just because they wanted some "cool" retro-futuristic faction, but they don't fit in at all.

So I have a question: is the only way to have a not loyalist Zuko in your list going Blue Spirit?

>>73754612
I think that its bullshit that sozin is supposed to be a high tier fire lord but without his combo with Roku he can'tdo nothing a common fire lord can't do for less than half the points

>>73762499
>>73762604
I remember a couple years ago we had regular Avatar threads and some guy kept showing us his project on a full blown system he was designing from the ground up.

>>73762319
>korrasami
>ever making sense
That relationship was forced, fucking weird and god damn toxic. Korra was a cunt of a woman that used everyone around her and she should have been smothered at birth so that someone else could have the chance to become the Avatar.

So why don’t people run Ozai more? His bending range is greater than Azula’s, his damage output is on par with Iroh and his leadership is on par with Zhao.

>>73762988
Azula beats him so hard on mobility he looks like a tank. Being able to outflank the enemy and get away even when surrounded by half an army is far more valuable then the few stat increases he has over her.

>>73762988
Easily shutdown by any special abilities that other hero characters can purchase. Just not worth it.

Sozin and his comet ability on the other hand, they're worth building an army around

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>>73762988
>>73763082
Also Azula is a far more developed character, far more complex, and she's in the show a hellova lot more often.

>>73762319
I give LoK credit for trying to be its own thing instead of just exploiting feels revolving around the original story. But it suffered a lot from poor direction, lack of focus, and poor budget. Plus the real brain behind AtLA's quality Aaron Ehasz wasn't involved, so we basically had a George Lucas scenario where most of the crew were newbies too in awe of Bryke to challenge their ideas.

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>>73763116
oh wait you were roleplaying the thread, nvm

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>all these fuckers not running IROH!
The fuck is wrong with you all? Sure he can't beat Azula in a straight up fight (who can? Bitch is OP for a reason) but the buffs he gives to his entire army is well worth it. Not to mention the white lotus units he unlocks to run as allies.

>>73762988
He is only good for smashing it out with your opponent, all the other leaders give you decisive options which actually wins you the game.

If you want to play a stupid war of attrition then you get yourself en EB army who are actually good at it.

>>73763130
Stop pretending you made a mistake, anon. You were just looking for an excuse to post those pictures.

>>73763131
>who can?
Katara

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>>73763144
Honestly it was both. I will fully concede to being horny but don't let that trick you; I'm also very stupid.

>>73763188
>katara
>ever winning a 1v1 with azula
Your delusion is showing.

>>73763199
She might have a chance during a fool moon and by using blood bending, but otherwise no. She only won at the palace because Azula was unstable and reckless.

>>73763197
If you are going to post pics you better give us more Azula. I am at work now or I'd do it myself.

>>73756026
some ideas to avoid making your setting seem too much like an Avatar ripoff:
- use Chinese five elements instead of Western four elements (or a split/mashup of both)
- don't do element manipulation and instead base each faction's magic on something from the folklore of the country it's based on

>>73762722
depends on the book youre playing
book one he is a n outcasts exclusive.
in book two he can be played in earth kingdom armies, but only the 'alone' or 'ba sing se' versions of him, neither of which have access to fire bending unless theyve been wounded at least twice

and in book three he can be played in any faction as any version.

he may be strictly inferior to azula but the number of armies and subfactions he can be jammed into makes him way more valuable as a versatile bending /and/weapon using unit

>>73754612
How would Mastercheif fair in Avatar?

>>73763342
There are fanfictions aplenty for you to browse to answer that question

>>73762126
i play without era restrictions, at least for casual matches.

my armies are the kiyoshi warriors and as i have stated like. six times already, the fire nation outcasys

>>73763082
>>73762988
>Not running ooga booga Comet Phoenix king "the rocket caveman" Ozai
He as all the subtility, grace and polyvalence of a caveman with a Big stick and he is expensive, probably too much for what he bring, but God it's hilarious to see him zoom on the Battlefield like a Tomahawk, with his personalized Terror+fear aura, and just punch heroes and chaff into oblivion.
What you brought anti-bender ? To bad they will never catch him, and he has stupid range on his bending, oh and he can break resteraint on a 3+
Yeah that's all he do, but that hilarious
Sure you get fucked by Aang almost guaranted, and if Ozai beat the dust half your army points are gone, but there is no pleasure without risk.
Also it's hilarious to field him against Azula (or team Azula for that latter) and put that Beats in her place, while solving her daddy issue.

>>73755673
>He still has Hamafags
My store set a hard ban on trying to play her or get permission. She's the most overpowered unit out there because she was designed before any of the newer mainstream bloodbending. Pay the Full Moon tax and she's all the power of pre-nerf Long Feng bolted onto a master Katara statblock

>>73763136
Fire Nation can smash things out. Having actual tanks instead of using gay animals. Then infantry can actually hold objectives instead of getting BTFO’d like Earthcucks. I think too many people are sleeping on Ozai. Man can T1 wipe out 2 squads of Dai Li or a Toph. He just needs to have a decent screen to make up for the mobility

>>73763131
It's because white lotus is a hero spam army.
If you run him as a fire nation loyalist you get to give those buffs to your tanks and artillery.

Call me a weeb but I really don't like how they americanized the world for the 2nd gen releases. A timeskip and technological advancement is fine, but did they really have to make their inspirations that obvious? Fucking Americunt pandering

>>73763652
Dude no real fans wanted the boardwalk empire bullshit. That was because brike had suddenly become obsessed with the roaring 20s and wanted to push it into the setting regardless of the fact that the level of technological advancement does NOT make sense. Like at all.

>>73763394
I guess you mostly play against bitch boys who retreat at the first sign of threat. WB and EB armies have much greater defensive capabilities/stats and as soon as they close the gap and you loose your range advantage then your troops are done for, which is a bad idea if you rely on your leader to win the battle for you.

Tanks are great assets but are too slow and can easily be walked around if not deployed right. The only way to play FB right is to use divide and destroy tactics, which Zhao and Azula are good at since they can either boost their own troops or take covert actions to disable enemy troops and leaders. With Ozai you can't do that since it will be to easy for the opponent to react in a timely matter. Also the "let my leader carry me to victory" relies to heavily on not getting cock blocked by the enemy leader.

>>73763741
>Also the "let my leader carry me to victory" relies to heavily on not getting cock blocked by the enemy leader.
He is not called Fire Lord for nothing. The power of being voiced by Mark Hamil means there are very few enemy leaders who stand up to him 1v1.
All he needs is his troops to hold out long enough for the enemy general to be BBQ'd and then they win.

>>73763741
but fire nations sword , glaive and rhino units are better than their earth and water faction equivalents. theyre also the only faction that can bend without access to their element.

fire nation, being the 'villains' even though lore paints them as victims to propaganda and not actually inherently evil, have the best units in the game intentionally so that earth benders and water benders have to be clever to beat them.

of the factions that came in the boy in the iceburg starter box, the kiyoshis(earth nation subfaction with none of the bloat) and the fire nation oitcasts(basically an elitist fire nation force) are the best newbie options, and they both get even better when you get good.

>>73763904
>theyre also the only faction that can bend without access to their element
People always mention this but its kind of stupid. Yeah I guesss there are situations in which there's no water source around, but earth is accessible in like 90% of cases unless you do naval battles, which, let's not kid ourselves, are fucking boring and badly implemented. Also earthbender and waterbender units both allow for much more creative strategizing wheres firebenders are pretty much limited to various versions of fireball type attacks.

>>73763995
you forget the sozin's commet scenerio takes place primarily on air ships

>>73763995
Fire benders have lots of mobility options and close combat attacks. All of their ranged attacks damaging multiple tiles is also a massive boost.

>>73754612
not cool

>>73763851
>>73763904
>>73763995
Firebenders being the strongest faction is without a doubt a fact, but they have a lot more depth than "lol lets just toast those suckers". If you meet a player who knows how to take and hold environmental objectives then that will give him the advantage necessary to win, same thing will happen if you roll a battleground which favors their army, and after that you will go on /tg/ and bitch about rng being stupid. A true strategist would make use of all the assets available to disrupt and conquer his opponent,
>inb4 just play sandbox battleground
If I wanted a mundane strategy game I would play W40K.

>but earth is accessible in like 90% of cases unless you do naval battles
Who even plays naval battles? It was just a money grab dlc aimed at bored casuals.

>>73763995
>not using third party map rotations with proper balanced water/rock/grass positions
ngmi

>>73763356
If I play without era restrictions I usually mix air nomands, air ships, flying bison and a dragon.
Literally no points left for heroes or any units with a leadership buff, but it's worth it to watch all water tribe players and earth kingdom/fire nation players that aren't heavy on elites seeth.

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How would he have fared against firelord Ozai?

>>73764178
>mobility options
are you talking about fire jet propulsion stuff? because there are literally only a handful of ultra elite units that have access to it. Aside from that - hot air balloons I guess?

All you boys talking about benders and shit, don't know the power of spirit armies.

>General old Iron
>Hei Bai
>Minor spirits

If the opponent doesn't have an avatar or an enlightened hero they're fucked.

>>73764448
The basic ass fire jump for starters
>Damages all tiles surrounding the bender
>Damages the tile where he lands and forces enemy non-heavy back
>Can be used to nuke a target by hitting twice
>Also just solid fucking mobility
>Any adept fire bender can use it
>Most fire bender soldiers are of adept level unless you're intentionally going cheap with fresh recruits.

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>running Earth Kingdom bandit army, just barely made it past the first tournament stage after getting my arse handed to me by team avatar build
>lost the objective, but had enough victory points left over from surviving heroes to qualify
>playing against a Ba Sing Se Earth Kingdom army, pretty good matchup, actually lots of fun
>start to remember why I love playing this game, start becoming friends with this Ba Sing Se player
>when we start competing for victory points he fields an elite Dai Li army, pretty cool
>friend goes to get a drink, I look over his stats

>he's fielding firebenders
>mfw he's fielding two of the most expensive and powerful firebenders in the entire game
>IN A FUCKING BA SING SE LIST
>his Dai Li and fire nation heroes completely tear my bandits apart
>I call the LGS referee, complain that he is clearly fielding two fire nation heroes in an Earth-only list
>this dickhead claims they're not fire nation units, BUT I SAW THE FUCKING STATS
>Keep yelling at this absolute faggot to just show the stats, and if they're not fire nation units just show the stats
>SHOW THE FUCKING STATS YOU FIRE NATION CHEESING CUNT
>LGS referee kicks me out of the store
>They kicked me out before I could pack away my Jet character and now I don't know where the model is

Did I fuck up? I fucking hate this game

>>73764529
>General old Iron
Fucking who?

>>73764693
>He didn't read the comics
OP sky scraper sized spirit who wears metal armor. You need metal benders to hold him down or an avatar or you're UTTERLY screwed.

>>73764693
He's from the comics, from the post-Korra trash fire. Disregard it.

>>73764757
>look it up
>'from the age of raava'
Fucking lol why would you read any of the shit made during the legend of creepyentitledbrownlesbian?

>>73764529
>>General old Iron
>Playing Age of Korra
Come on now.

>>73764833
>>73764865
>>73764802
>Old Iron
>Korra

L M O A read the lore. Aang defeats Old Iron when celebrating the Yang Cheng festival with the air acolytes using the help from Toph and her metal bending apprentices.

>>73764833
>Korra is bad because she has character flaws
Her character is literally the best part about legend of Korra. Everything else surrounding it is shit.

>>73761468

I was thinking about mechanics, and the thing is, combat is so fucking dynamic in Avatar that it really should be represented in the gameplay. And I wouldnt want to have to throw 3 buckets of dices every time I activate Aang. So I thought about a straight up 3d6 roll against a fixed value (like in Warmachine but with a 3rd dice always), where each individual dice result (or doubles or triples) can then be used to chain in actions. Characters and units have Techniques which are basically just a list of Actions you can choose from when chaining these actions. So Activate Aang to attack some rando, roll 3d6 against a Defense of 12, roll 6, 4 and 3, so it's a success on the hit. 3 is an additional hit, 4 is a push back effect of 2 inches, and 6 allows you to move Ang 4 inches, Appa 4 inches, and if they are within 2 inches of each other at the end of both moves, Ang can ride Appa (and gains fly). Something like that.

>>73764865
>>73764833
>>73764802
Is Korra as bad as Age of Sigmar when it comes to lore-raping and shitty gameplay?

>>73764921
>Her character is literally the best part about legend of Korra. Everything else surrounding it is shit.
The problem is her flaws are entirely unintentional, unrecognized and unpunished. Tenzin should have bitch slapped the girl for her bullshit.

>>73764833
>lesbian
the fuck? she's bi or maybe even pan. probably poly too.

>>73764963
>pan
>poly
The fuck kind of made up bullshit are you spouting son?

>>73764981
google is your friend, chum.

>>73764960
>Tenzin should have bitch slapped the girl for her bullshit.
I have only watched season 1 of Korra coupled with spoilers for the rest but even so the things you can do to her in Elements Trainer are incredibly cathartic.

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>>73763394
>Fire Nation can smash things out. Having actual tanks instead of using gay animals

But the best Fire Nation unit to smash things with are animals, anon...

>>73764998
>pansexual; not limited in sexual choice with regard to biological sex, gender, or gender identity.
>polysexual;involving or characterized by different sexualities; sexually attracted to more than one gender.
Oh so they're a way of saying you're a slut without making yourself feel bad.

>>73764960
>Implying that Korra doesn't go through pure suffering made entirely worse due to her cocky demeanor
>Implying Korra doesn't get fucked over by her lack of spirituality

Big part of avatar lore is how the avatars end up in worlds that either the next or previous avatar would have fared better in.

>Aang is highly spirtual but not such a good warrior
>Has to end a war

>Korra is an incredibly talented warrior but very unspiritual
>Has to deal with spirit shenanigans all the time

>>73764954
depends on who you ask and if you ask me, yes
we got some decent porn though

>>73764981
>pan
as in a broad or spread sexuality

>poly
as in polyamorous, multiple partners

I need a new spoon.

>>73765094
So yeah. A giant, bisexual slut.

>>73765113
I don't enjoy porn of her unless she is suffering and considering how many torturous scenes there are with her in the series, it seems the creators agree with me.

>>73765049
while I agree with how both of the concepts are interesting, the conflict of Aang having to stop a war was executed far better than Katara dealing with spirit world shenanigans. Plus the spirit world really ended up being super lame and was better in small doses.

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>>73764921
It was literally created post-Korra, and incorporates LoK designs into it.

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>>73763904
Boy in the Iceberg was such a stupid fucking set. It's supposed to be the Book 1 starter set, but for some reason, alongside Fire Nation Outcasts, Team Avatar and the Southern Water Tribe, you've got the fucking Kyoshi warriors, who were never in the South pole. Two faction box sets are hard enough to split with people, let alone a fucking "4 factions but actually it's like 3 factions and the worst version of the snowflake brigade" boxed set not to mention how fucking awful that Appa model looked.

>>73765170
Yes. But it's high quality and is a good bridge between LoA and LoK lore.

>>73765158
So the fault isn't at Korra's character but at all the stuff surrounding it (like I stated).

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>>73763314
>book three Zuko has no restrictions
Real shit? Now that's what I like to hear

>>73764677
Of course you did. You should have called the referee while the dude hadn't come back yet.
Also maybe next time don't sperg out. >>73765019
>>73765113
Her being a slut canonically makes the porn all the better.

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>>73762073
>>73762259
>desire to put a ring on Toph intensifies

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>>73762975
So much this.

>>73765002
Agreed. Honestly the entire slave route of book 4 feels like Mity taking out his pent up hatred towards the character and I can fully get behind that.

I don't have my books available, can anyone give me a rundown on what each factions units are (we can leave korrashit out of it, nobody at my lgs allows it)

>>73766243
Depends on the rulebook but normally for Fire Nation at least its:
Infantry:
Fire Nation Spearmen
Firebender Regulars
Komodo-Rhino Cavalry
Fire-Tanks
War Balloon
Airships
as for heros and generals they have:
General Iroh
Captain/Admiral Zhao
Princess Azula
Ty Lee
Mai
or you could use a generic Fire Nation general if you're tight on points.
They've also got some really good Regiments of Renown like
The Yu-Yan Archers
The Rough Rhinos
The Southern Raiders
They all have special buffs and debuffs so you can use them for countering certain units.
Depending on your armybook you can upgrade the regular units for certain roles, but its all about aggression with the Fire Nation, they don't roll defensive builds very well.

Lmao animu dice go clacka

>>73765193
It's meant to be the few 'chapters' of book one

>>73755102
Shut up white lotus igloo monkey
Southern Water Tribe day look like this

7am: crawl out of shitty ice hole, make sure toes and fingers not dead from frostbite in sleep
8am: study waterbending scrolls then realise your waterbenders all dead and stop
8.30am: learn to cower from fire nation
10am: stare at horizon and wish for fathers to return though probably not
12pm: lunch, need two hours to catch one fish with spear because no waterbenders
2pm: watch sunrise and sunset all in the same half hour
2.30pm: try to weave fishing net then stop because father never show you how to do it before going to war
2:40pm: train defence force of child soldiers, probably not much difference between little baby and grown man there anyway
3pm: math lesson, count surviving tribe members, not take long
4pm: huddle for warmth because retarded enough to stay in shit ice climate
7pm: eat dinner of preserved meat from ten years ago because cannot catch anything because poor stupid ice virgin
9pm: watch entire village get crushed to death by passing fire nation ship

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>>73766677
Chink Eskimos BTFO

>>73766751
and then they're (forcefully) civilized by the North.

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BA SING SE IS RIGHTFUL FIRE NATION CLAY

>>73762901
Looks I know what I'm wasting my evenings on for the foreseeable future.

>>73759410
sand sailers are the best unit in the game, you should be taken as many of them as you can squeeze into your list. They're fast, durable, and your benders can shoot out of them. Their massive footprint gives them great board control too

>>73767054
>lost the war
oh no no no no imagine being a "person" who can firebend. Get back in the factory lee.

>>73767194
They're not that durable. Sure infantry usually can't scratch them but most benders and all artillery can do serious damage to them. Also You have to disembark to control objectives. They're a lot of fun but they're not a spam this to win unit. Unless your meta is flooded, ba-dum tish, with Water Tribe infantry only list.

Why the fuck doesn't anyone run Moonslayer Zhao? Shit's broke, he even directly counters Waterbenders with the Eclipse skill

I really like the narrative skirminlsh options for the game.

I like that when you play a bandit outcast or barbarian leader you can make a team from all nations

>>73768364
Because Moonslayer has some terrifying drawbacks that aren't worth it unless you're going up against a heavy waterbending list, the most obvious being all units with the Spirit keyword get massive bonuses against you. Which includes Avatars. Moonslayer is viable in some lists and builds but I think if you're making a general list just run Admiral Zhao.

>>73768364
He is very expensive and somewhat subpar against non-waterbenders

>>73763669
>the level of technological advancement does NOT make sense
>.t runs a full mechanized FN army with airships

>>73763741
>>73763851
Boom and Zoom Ozai isn't supposed to take on the enemy by himself, he's supposed to be used in conjunction with your overall strategy. Hit and run, kiting, fucking up the backfield, and quickly responding to enemy actions is what he's geared towards. The only time you should just be throwing him at enemy units isn't hero hunting, it's to take out chaff. He's pretty much the supreme anti-tarpit unit.

>>73756246

The Colossus is a trap option, Age of Korra has a bunch of them. It eats a massive amount of your points and its AoE blast might be a one-hit kill but it's also not very practical against armies of man-sized targets, which are still the preferred medium. It's more of an anti-city than anti-army weapon and fucking nobody uses the siege rules anymore.

The basic Earth Empire Mech, however, is straight up broken and you can field DOZENS of those bastards for the same cost as the giant one. They've got better armor, mobility, and offense than the Equalist Mech; kit them out with flamethrowers and you've got a platoon of hyper-defensive firebenders in an earthbender army, and they get other weapons on top of that!

The model prices ARE highway robbery, though, I'll give ya that.

>>73768406
I'm with you the narrative rules need to get more support, I'm surprised it hasn't caught on more. What's your squad anon?

How the FUCK do you build an offensive air nomad set?

I get it, they're a defense-focused faction and have less support because "extinct in universe", but if I can field a a fire nation turtle army, or earth kingdom skirmishers, there should be some options available to me, but I can't find them

Am I stupid?

>>73768907
Book 3 Age of Korra rules is the first time you're going to see fully supported Air Nomad armies. However, I hope you like high mobility, glass cannon armies and playing objectives because if you're running a solo build they're a solid 3rd-tier army.

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>>73765003
I’m sorry but I use the dildo machine

>>73769591
>playing 6k+ point scenario games with over a dozen objectives per table
Anyone with enough time on their hands to actually finish a full Drill the Wall scenario without extensive houseruling doesn't have the money to actually run the scenario.

>>73761780
He's a solid include. Playing WL is a bit weird to get used to- their forces tend to be TINY- but god damn are their heroes incredible, and the Secret Support ability you get if you field all WL units lets you basically asspull an item or change a field scenario once a game which is nuts. Really useful as a one-time 'save this hero now' button

>>73761780
>>73769812
Can you infiltrate WL Sokka as Wang Fire?

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>>73769591

> I invest nearly 2000k points into something that has no use in half the battles and cant go into 3/4 of terrain types.

>>73764944
After reading your post, I had the idea that instead of using only dice, maybe each unit with bending powers could have a deck of different attack/defense/utility cards representing the techniques that character possesses. Units would still have stats, but when two benders get locked in combat they can have a mini-duel where each player “casts” bending cards at each other to simulate the dynamics of a fight. Different bending units would have different card stack amounts, their personal library of bending techniques, and part of prepping an army would involve what order you stack a units bending technique cards in, maybe with additional rules for shuffling. Maybe have the bending cards played from a hand instead, I dunno. Could make different card game “styles” for each bending type too. Firebenders can play cards from a hand limit while waterbenders can only draw one at a time from their library. Whatever thematically makes sense as well as makes for a good game.

>>73767956
The Fire Nation never lost you fucking mong, upper management changed and he decided to take pity on the 2 dozen people still fighting against them.

>>73770229

If we go with a card system, I's recommend making the bending decks generic, as in a fire, water, air and earth deck, and if two benders get locked in a fight you draw a certain hand size based on the character, and then resolve what you want.

>>73770363

> the fire Nation never lost
I guess those fleet of ships and air balloons just disappeared on their own?

>>73767054
>ignoring the fact the fire nation was btfo'd by their own general at the next siege of Ba Sing Se

>>73770229
I was thinking that bending would be a chart of effects that you can choose from/unlock the more points of chi you spend to perform a move: earth creates/modifies terrain, fire does direct damage, water inflicts status effects, air physically moves enemies. And depending on which direction you move on the chart determines whether you add secondary effects/amplify your current one.

Also, you could have units buy "mastered" skills that follow a specific power build that maxes out their chi use for the turn, but doesn't tire them out (like healers or combustion man)

>>73770385
The air balloons were destroyed and one fleet out of a dozen too, if you think that would've stopped the Fire Nation if Zuko hadn't declared peace you are more retarded than a swamp dweller.

>>73770385
>100 years after the war ended
ok buddy

>>73770466
Fucking poetry.

>>73770229
You could do a kind of action system where each unit has a set number of actions they can use a turn, and certain abilities cost more actions than others. Maybe fluff it as chi or whatever. So like, an earth kingdom guard unit has 3 actions, moving is one, throwing a salvo of boulders at their enemies is another, and then making a small rock barricade to provide cover for the return fire is their third action. Then you get elite and character units with more chi and more expensive abilities, like say Azula using flame jets to move further for two actions and then throwing out lightning for three more, using up her 5 chi but moving her across the map and sniping another character for big damage.

>>73766044
Fuck you anon I was having a good day

>>73771510
Let me make it worse:
>Leaves from the vine
>Falling so slow
>Like fragile, tiny shells
>Drifting in the foam
>Little soldier boy
>Come marching home
>Brave soldier boy
>Comes marching home

>>73768872
i'd tell you but then id get flake from 'muh snow flake' shitstains

((its been a good thread))

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>>73773931
It can be another

How do I build a proper swamp army? Avoiding conflicts with spirit illusions and having vine benders stall forever until I develop the spirit nuke that came with the Korra swamp pack, all while the central tree hero unit gives everyone decent mobility across the entire board the longer the game goes on, all seems kinda fun. But I feel like there is still something missing.

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