>>82088742
The 'story' of the setting is emergent. So far what is apparent is:
> Lapsarians have a deal with the Ocean Gods for oil, and perhaps for more.
> Part of the bargain involves suppressing other groups, such as the cult of the Monolith, for which the Slab Breakers created the Slab Knights
> Lapsarians Colonize Durites, and a civil war begins between Durite Rebels (and Other separatists) and Lapsarians. This ends up driving more and more Durites into extremism, and into worshiping and making their own bargains with the Fisher King
> Back at Lapsaria, a group of Lapsarian rebels leaded by the Last Captain lose a decisive battle at sea, and were turned into monsters themselves.
> The internal political situation of Lapsaria is also fragile, as the Oil Tycoon makes his plays for power, against the interest of the Hooks (and the State Powers who secretly are in cahoots with The Hooks)
>The combination of old Stone magic & new Oil Alchemy has caused a rapid industrialization.
>The Monolith is far away in the interior of the continent, away from Lapsarians
>The continent is known as The Vast, the world exists as a Pangea with it being the only landmass. Long-term sea voyages outside of the sight of land never became common until recently.

Lore Dump Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RjU2GkiDq5tJ8Ih9A9LxyHhC3cvmQANYG579UDgxuOM/edit?usp=sharing

Last thread: >>82076577

>>82088742
First for fuck the monolith.

Xth for fuck the Monolith

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Are Korean turtle ships an accurate example of what the Durite navy would look like?

>>82088742
xxth for fuck Durites

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Reiterating this is just moving around to figure things out and not anything official

>>82088766
let me not be dumb and actually explain shit
>Salvage Diver
Not really faith-y, if anything more pain given what he experiences down there
>Salt Shaman
He was stone in the first place, and moving his closer to the other Masovii
>Great Reef
Is by definition, a middle force between sea and the stone
>Forgotten Slab
The epitome of stone
>Sky Pirates
Weren't really stone aligned in the first place, just there was no neutral spot to put them before
>Seawall
As discussed above

>>82088840
>>82088846
Put these two on it, but desu I think the Lapsarian Infantryman would fit in as pain aligned, and I already gave my position on the Salvage diver

>>82088756
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RjU2GkiDq5tJ8Ih9A9LxyHhC3cvmQANYG579UDgxuOM/edit?usp=sharing

never seen a google doc edited by someone else in real time. scared the shit outta me for a second there.

Fuck the monolith, give me more oil

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>>82088742
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURMMMMMMMMMMM

>>82088981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQ5iQ-NbFA

Why can't you commit to putting in other "facets of our website" like nigra-chan, lolcats, courage wolf, trollface, forever alone, raptor Jesus, and insanity wolf? Are you a newfag tourist who thinks pepe and wojack were the only memes to exist?

>>82088957
>Durite
>navy
they don't have one

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>>82089020
oh hey look, its this weirdo again

>>82089020
they don't fit the template. this isn't the first thing like this people have made on here, just the latest. Help make it even better, or kindly fuck off to another thread.

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>Fish
>Stone
Fuck both of you. FREEDOM LIVES.

>>82088962
> I think the Lapsarian Infantryman
I agree. I made some sugestions in >>82088891

>>82089047
I'm sure they have a small greenwater navy.

tell me, what are the slabs?

>>82088742
Shit, the Docs was 1 page, I blink and now there's 4 pages of content. What the fuck?

>>82089103
that which must be crushed.
now pick up your Sledge and ask no further questions

>>82089061
Why are you so mad about facets of our website?

>>82089103
THE WALLS
THEY BLEED
THEY'RE IN YOUR WALLS
THEY ARE YOUR WALLS
THEY BLEED
THEY BLEED
THEY BLEED

>>82089103
They're the remains of Farmers/Peasants that have been transmorgified through unknown means by unknown parties for unknown ends.

Think of all those myths of Zeus or Artemis turning random people into trees or deer, and there you go. It's a force of nature, we can only vaguely imagine motivations.

>>82089053
Don't be mean to people by shitposting friend, some people don't like facets of the website.

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So if they setting is dualistic between faith and pain, fish and stone, why is it just named after leviathan, the beast of the waters? What about Behemoth, the beast of the earth? I know a setting can't have two names, but the existential dualism of the setting would definitely fit with it.

>>82088957
The Durites are so far in land the biggest navy they own is a canoe.

>>82089197
It isn't dualistic. The Gods of Fish and the Monolith are not comparable.

>>82089197
Because then we'd probably have to include the third great beast, Ziz.

>>82089197
I was the one who brought up the Ziz earlier, and in my interpretation the Behemoth was Monolith. Just not the usual description of one.

>>82089186
Some people are morons complaining about non-issues thread after thread after thread. If they don't want to contribute to this project they can make one of their own elsewhere.
>>82089197
I think leviathan was a placeholder but then again the roles of the beasts of sea and stone were swapped in Islamic creation myths so maybe that could represent the dual stone/fish nature (or at least the Reef's blasphemous perversion of it).

>>82089100
they don't even have an organized state. They are completely subjugate, save for rebels. At most, there are individual durites who own ships.

>>82089224
>Fish and the Monolith
I think they most certainly are, representing two orders, old and new, both equally unknown and foreboding.

>>82089197
the setting isn't dualistic, the compass is.

>>82088742
is this just Fallen London?

>>82089264
>I think they most certainly are, representing two orders, old and new, both equally unknown and foreboding.
No no no literally wrong. Faith is old. Pain is new. The Monolith has always been and the deep ones may be younger but not by much. Pain transforms while the Brackish ones bargain. But the Monolith does not move. Stone and Fish are not entities in opposition, though the same cannot be said of men.

>>82089300
No.

>>82089273
This. The compass is a snapshot in time from a very particular moment where the bargin has just been made, or at least is in its relative infancy. It doesn't display an even balance of power, or even the only entities that matter in this world, just the ones we're focusing on

>>82088962
>>82088756
this guy too, maybe >>82084346

>>82089077
I disagree with the moving the Professor down to Faith.
Going off the
>PAIN
>Unasked for, Transformative, New.
definition - given that a lot of what he's doing is compelling people to continue dredging up that which has remained stagnant for centuries (and which probably should have remained that way), while he may not be a direct sufferer of PAIN, he himself is propagating PAIN in the world, if that makes any sense. He's stirring shit without the consequences always being known but he keeps doing it regardless of what happens

>>82089305
chad knowledge right there

>>82089337
>I disagree with the moving the Professor down to Faith.
fair enough. though i disagree with the degree of Pain he's in right now. if the infantryman keeps his position in thee middle, he can be moved down one, so he's still in the Pain side, but not as far

>>82089305
I dunno, King Fisher really seems to want those Durites repressed.

>>82089379
The Fisher King cares takes away the pain. He doesn't inflict it. The same cannot be said of the Lapisians who aim to strangle the interior of the Vast.

>>82089379
Because he knows
Land is uncaring
Land is ever growing
Land is ever dwarfing
The ocean cares
He must protect his children

Are the Masovii like.... pseudo-Russians?
afaik the only ones with them are the Dignitary and the Shaman

>>82089197
>>82089224
>>82089229
>>82089235
>>82089238
>>82089273
>>82089315
Gonna keep bringing it up until I get a definite no but I personally am not a fan of the Leviathan title, although it wouldn't be the end of the world if it stuck, not the worst choice.
But I think the following should still be roundly considered
>Of Oil and Dust
>Empires of Oil and Dust
>The Vast
>Oil & Dust
>The Deepvast

probably more out there, anyone else got anything?

>>82089465
They've got some Russian going on, but they're strongly Hungarian coded, and multi-ethnic. So kind of a Hungario-Austrian Empire (the Hungarians taking the lead rather than teh "Austrians")
This also puts them in familial relations with the mongol-coded Durites

>>82089465
Kinda? the whole setting is vaguely east-european/west-asian.
though I'd say the Lapsarians are the most russian of the groups

>>82089478
I like the Vast, maybe pair it with something. The Vast and the Deep has a nice ring to it.

>>82089379
Both the King and the Monolith don't super care about the human conflicts going on, they kind of just follow their own weird motives, the fact that different groups are turning to them is almost coincidence

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>>82089062
>Barges into your divine dichotomy
>Kills everyone
>refuses to elaborate further

>>82089511
>Both the King and the Monolith don't super care about the human conflicts going on
Objectively false. The King loves all his children

>>82089478
Leviathan does seem to focus very heavily on just one half of the equation.

"Empires of Sea and Stone." Would have been my choice for title.

>>82089465
The Masovii are a commonwealth of Opal and Oak Stone. I wouldn't say they're any one thing, though they've got a Polish tribal name to start with.

>>82089478
I also would prefer one of thsoe titles, maybe with the exception of "The Vast"

>>82089535
oh yeah, what I mean is that they're not taking sides. The King has given gifts out to both Durites and Lapsarians, but just happens to have made the bargin with the latter. The stone has commued with at least one Lapsarian. They're not perfectly split along the lines of human conflict

>>82089511
SLANDER! My king loves me!

>>82089567
>>82089567
well yea, the king loves all his children equally, after all

>>82089578
The king loves you, but he doesn't care about what you do to other men.

>>82089511
I dig the vast on its own but if it's combined the deep's as good a counterpart as any.

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Who is the closest rival in power navy-wise to Lapsaria? I ask this because if Lapsaria is the only nation with a good navy, or the only one with a navy at all, then the question becomes why it has such an expensive navy to begin with. It cant' be just for kicks and giggles.

There has to be SOMEBODY else along the Vast's coast or in the Deep that made Lapsaria spooked enough to start defending its whaling and trading vessels with big fookin' ironclads. The only ones I can think of are the Sunset Islands, and I don't think they're the type to have a big navy.

>>82089631
Jasentorf probably has a navy but they're more likely to be stuck back in the age of sail. A thousand micro-states in a trench-coat isn't like to produce much in the way of good naval tech.

>>82089666
Venice was a microstate and it had a decent navy.

>>82089666
>Jasentorf
Oh, we forgot about that in the Doc. Is taht the HRE-like state?

>>82089631
We don't know but there are surely soome. Maybe the Ververian campaign had a naval component?

I think the Airship faction should be expanded upon when the grid is expanded. Most of the squares will be fairly neutral, and I'd think the airship pilots would be entirely neutral in the ground conflict below.

>>82089699
It's all the serfdom and decentralization of Russia and all the autonomy of the HRE. Massive but like a black hole for manpower. There are probably other states but no one's gotten into it yet.

>>82089719
I want to add the Proto-tank crew I mentioned last thread. Lapsarians should be full of barely flying zepplins, ironsides, and shitty deathtrap tanks.

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>>82089719
Airship anon here. I always intended for them to be minor. A pirate faction that attacks indiscriminately, causing problems for everybody.
But Balloonists as a concept we could work on more. Like a cute steampunk balloonist girl, for example. Like I posted earlier, Freedom Lives and can be found in the sky.

>>82089759
>Like a cute steampunk balloonist girl, for example
Yes please. We are severely lacking in the Cute Girl department. We have what, 3 of them? 4 if you think the Shamanese is cute.

>>82089751
let's not go too hard on these tanks, the fleshy infantry movements of late 19th century warfare has had a strong impact on the form of the compass, it should be upheld for the most part.

The moist and soft nature of the occupying force in Durite territory is vital to the core story of the setting

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>>82089772
It's not a good steampunk setting without cute mechanics.

>>82089772
>if you think the Shamanese is cute.
The things I would do to the Shamanese would make the Savant look dry.

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>>82089781
Agreed. And in addition, there's a big "why do this" question with the tanks. In our timeline, tanks were intended to break the stalemate caused by trench warfare. If there is no trench warfare, but instead guerrilla warfare, then tanks are nothing but a deathtrap easily led into an ambush and blown up with explosives.

A better idea, if not quite as cool, is armored cars. That makes sense in the setting. They're rapid response armored vehicles intended to support a garrison outpost that has just come under attack by rebels. Tankettes are also acceptable, but instead of being used to break trench warfare, their treads are used for marshes.

>>82089835
We're not quite there yet in terms of power supply. After all we're all doing the proto-oil boom right now by SACRED OIL.

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Wow, I reduced down to only a few layers and now my computer doesn't threaten to crash every time I export. I am doing the arranging for the 9x9.

I see movement in the GoogleDoc related to new names.

I am a BIG proponent of having a good single word or two word name that is catchy. I am open to suggestions besides Leviathan.

>>82089835
>>82089781
Makes sense, armored cars and fast moving armor would be important for trying to control vast inhospitable steppes.

>>82089857
if you really need two words, then the deep and the vast is my vote.

>>82089857
Not one or two words, "Deep and Vast."

>>82089857
Frankly i love Leviathan. it gets to the point.

>>82089885
It's also already used. I like Leviathan as well, but if this is going to be a thing with longevity it needs an original name.

>>82089835
Are we even at trains yet? We've gotta power this and the Oil seems to be supplying Laspisia's crippling addiction.

>>82089882
While Deep & Vast are descriptive it doesn't make for a good RPG name.

>>82089906
Maybe trains aren't completely viable due to the marshlands and sheer distances of the steppe. Perhaps a railroad exists in the capitol region, and there is an attempt to extend it outward into the colonies/frontier, but the Rebels are making it difficult. As a result, river steamboats dominate.

Since it was brought up in the Google Doc that the military could potentially be expanded (if more slots open up), I thought I'd throw in a suggestion. We could perhaps use a character who represents the more traditionalist, old guard faction within Lapsaria, who's in opposition to the Deacon and his shenanigans. Probably sitting somewhere further towards the Pain/Stone side of the spectrum.

>The Lapsarian Noble
>war hero, friends with the last tsar
>the old ways are what kept this nation strong
>does not trust that Deacon one bit
>is asking entirely too many questions

Just a rough outline, feel free to use or discard depending on what people think. He's perhaps a little more mundane compared to some of the characters we have so far, but as mentioned in a previous thread a bit of normality can help heighten the weirdness around it.

>>82089931
I feel like the already existing presence of the four great rivers vastly reduces the need for land based transport for Lapisia, and the interior cultures are horse based.
However the world is changing. Maybe basuc trains using 'black-salt' like coal but worse as a means to power them are begging to emerge as the industrialists are clearly willing to play everyone.

>>82089985
>an opportunity to get Austrian-Hussar style plumed helmets
good concept.

>>82089985
I second this. A counterpoint to the marine who's still in the establishment fits well. I've been thinking of mocking up another type of Durite Freedom Fighter who's similarly secular, maybe using scavaged Lapsarian firearms

>>82089985
>82089985
I like it. I think the
>does not trust that Deacon one bit
Could be reduced to
> Does not trust the Deacon
To sound a bit less jovial

And maybe something regarding The Handmaiden maybe being his Daughter? It was somewhat common for the children of nobles to serve the Royal family

>>82090008
>black salt
I like it. Much like coal, it's a fossil fuel, but it's the dried up "tears" of... something...
Something extinct, but the smog it creates brings back memories of long dead eons. So you get "Spring Heeled Jack" or "Mad Gasser" type phenomena, only they're ghosts of raptors or some shit that random civilians are seeing in the smog.

>>82090020
make sure not to present them as too effective though. Otherwise you make the others look really foolish for going to the extremes they do. Like, the insurgent is a pacifist who chooses violence, the rebel is a tribal who accepts exile.

>>82090033
>And maybe something regarding The Handmaiden maybe being his Daughter?
That's a good shout. He might also have some ties to the Tsarina's Maid, if he's looking to get some dirt on the Deacon and his activities.

>>82090033
>>82089985
I'm going to bed now, but if you guys want, I can do this guy tomorrow with a bitchin' hat.

>>82090062
That'd be dope from your end anon. Sleep tight. Don't let the bed fish bite

I saw mention of 4 great rivers. What if one of those rivers, as a result of the spread of the Vast, is being closed off?

>>82090062
I've got all the artistic talent of a fingerless gibbon, so if you want to give it a shot please feel free.

I'm picturing him with an absolutely gigantic moustache as well. Imperial Russian officers had some incredible facial hair.

>>82088742
I propose a series of eastward islands, far in the east, the existence of the coral isles implies some other isles can exist.
It's so we can have an emigre character the comes from the recently independent lapsarian colony there, in that swampy sleepy isles. To be freaked out by what happened to the mainland.
Or maybe just scrap it. We can have someone like a coffee shop owner. As he sees the cities decay. And refuses to put this "boon" in his coffee. He notices that the factory workers look dumb and bloated. Something is wrong here... but what...

>>82090050
I was tempted to have them be suicide bombers, but that might be a bit on the nose. Otherwise it'd probably be something like

>When one falls, two more take their place
>One rifle for every 20 militia
>The rest use farming equipment
>Either pick off a patrol or get slaughtered

>>82090071
We lost the Capri River to [REDACTED], the Venitii is filled with masked drown-happy freaks, the Nemijski has been getting pot-shotted by the Durites and so everyone sane (bandits included) is now swamped into the Timajoir.

>>82090071
IIRC the 4 are the ones ruled by the 3 lesser Fish (the Venit, the Timajor, and the Nemijski) and the Capri, which is sorta a fucked up ghost place no-go zone.

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>>82090108
Suicide bombers are honestly cliche, and only work in a culture that has both a strong martyr culture and is a large majority population-wise. It makes sense when you have an overabundance of recruits and not enough time or money to train them, but no sense when you're on the brink of cultural and ethnic extinction.

A better model would be the Irish revolutionary practices in pic related. You don't need to blow up a marketplace and you along with it to get your point when your real target is just a military convoy or outpost.

>>82090124
We also lost the entirety of Capri bay too. Lapsarian control is at most a couple of minor cities at the south and north no one willingly steps out of.

>>82090151
>>82090071
We can easily add a fifth river that's mostly dried up, full of the husks of riverboats that are used as hideouts by the Durites.

>>82090108
I think we're over-militarizing the Durites a bit. I had the feeling that most of them were just kind of oppressed peasents and then there was a minority of super violent and dedecated rebels to the point that the normal durite doesn't really know who to root for. Like it says in the peasent square: Gets killed by Lapsarians, gets killed by rebels. They're not a warlike people that mobilizes all their young men against the enemy, they're an oppressed, outmatched culture convulsing and changing under pressure.

>>82090105
>I propose a series of eastward islands, far in the east, the existence of the coral isles implies some other isles can exist.
>It's so we can have an emigre character the comes from the recently independent lapsarian colony there, in that swampy sleepy isles. To be freaked out by what happened to the mainland.
I don't really see the need to make another when the Sunset Isles already exist and could use a bit of love to them in terms of writing

>>82090179
No, we've got four rivers for four gods. There is the 'fish abandoned water' of the salt-lakes of the interior but that is it.

>>82090182
They're mongols if mongols were more religious than warlike

>>82090201
I was thinking of doing a short story (since I can't draw) that is about a young doctor looking for his son in the coral-opium dens of the Sunset Islands.

>>82090108
I'm picturing a large but poorly supplied armed force that's spread too thin. Pacifying the Durites was supposed to be a simple task, but it's growing harder and harder every year.

>>82090218
visually, sure, but culturally there's a lot of very different stuff going on. I know because I put a lot of it there.

>>82090230
For the Lapsarians, to clarify. Apologies.

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>>82090163
>>82090182
yeah I think you two are right. Maybe a Rebel Sympathiser of some description would hit that secular angle, and the only people extreme enough to properly pick up arms are the ones who'd go far enough to go full fish or rock.

>>82090201
Seconded

>>82090230
Thats what I was pondering, but I'm increasingly leaning towards a generally supportive populace who aim the rebels, but mostly they don't just human wave people

>>82090219
That'd be kickass

>>82090239
Oh yeah, i was agreeing with your point. ttheyre horse bound, nomadic, etc, but not that much into fighting. They roam around, maybe even becauise of their worship, and haven't really developed much need for fighting until recently

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The 9x9 is ready. I will begin adding new things as they are posted. I need to take a break to do my actual job. I have essentially lost this work day to compass making.

>>82090302
>need to take a break to do my actual job.
This is your job now anon
Good luck on your job, don't get fired

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>Sunset Isles
>were once part of a much larger sub-continent that has since sunk below the waves
>coral-pilled to the extreme, but there is a vocal minority sect that worships fire vis-a-vis the Oil (UNQUENCHABLE FLAME OF THE SEA)
>many of the larger islands are untamed and tropical, with a scattered few spice and fruit plantations hugging the coast; nothing can penetrate the deep jungle due to the magical diseases found there
>what few islands are heavily populated have become quite arid due to overuse of few water sources
>their navy is backwards but has a secret art of "Flame from Water" (greek fire via oil), although this is no longer effective since the invention of the ironclad
>Lapsaria is increasingly eyeing them for future colonization

I almost missed the whale added last thread.
>>82088797

Will add him soon. Probably right above the HARPOONER?

>>82090230
>>82090261
imo it's more of a "everyone knows a cousin or an uncle who is actively trying to fight, but the majority of them are still just normal people trying to get by under harsh colonial rule". So while most of them aren't fighting, any home could harbour a rebel at any given night, and if the Lapsarians come looking through a town, everyone around would do their best to help the rebels blend in.
Sorta an IRA kind of deal if that makes sense.

>>82090302
Kino. Thanks man

>>82090302
Good luck with your job!

>>82090302
I suggest bringing the professor down one, and switching the Harpooner and the Slavage Diver (The Harpooner seems pretty chill all things considered, while the Diver definitely has some creepy/scary shit going on)
Then maybe >>82090350 the whale can stay to the right of the harpooner?
No rush, just some ideas for when we have more stuff to add in

>>82090302
>doesn't want to displease auntie
spooky

>>82090339
The Vast is the only major continental body.
What if the Sunset Isles were formed from a type of coral? The boring option is volcanic but it is the most straight forward. They could also be the remains of ancient creatures long since petrified.

>>82090201
Ah fair, but we could still see excerpts of them by making some sort of explorer/merchant who goes from the exotic lands down south and beyond back to lapsaria.

>>82090355
Agreed. The vast majority of Durites just want to get on with things and farm (though some are willing to contribute resources or shelter a few insurgents). The actual number of Durite insurgents and rebels will be pretty small, but their strange abilities mean that they punch well above their weight when it comes to fucking up the Lapsarian military.

>>82090302
Since he's at least somewhat fishy (eyes messed up) shouldn;t the Lapsarian Factory Worker beone right? Works with stone but bound to the Sea by the boon, a good middle term

How dangerous is The Last Captain/Capri Bay Ghosts/Our Lady In Grey?

Seems to be the most dangerous things on the compass.

>>82090400
Who lives that would know the answer?

>>82090391
I'll also say that increasingly brutal Lapsarian tactics are changing the conflict, as they are actually creating a more viable threat by bringing in more Durites onto the opposite side.

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>The Aerialist
>her father worked himself to death on the riverboats
>she goes where the smuggler cannot
>many scoff at her ideas for heavier than air flight
>FREEDOM LIVES ABOVE THE CLOUDS

Inspiration Art here:
>>82089793
>>82089759

>>82090400
Dangerous enough for most people to know not to fuck around to find out. Only the most desperate go to Capri Bay, and even then death might be a preferrable alternative.

>>82090302
Should we add something to the Durite rebel's description to amke it more clear he represents those who made a deal with the Fisher King?

>>82090429
He has the eyes, which is what is important.

>>82090400
In my opinion, it's not impossible to sink the Lady in Grey. Difficult, she was the finest ship of her generation, but with the newest dreadnaughts being built her reign would in normal circumstances be at an end.
The trick is sinking the Lady permanently. The Ghosts can just refloat her, and any ammunition they expend is easily regained by boarding the enemy and taking what they want.

>>82090409
Definitely. I'd imagine this will be more in the favour of the Durite Rebels specifically. An increasingly desperate people will be more inclined towards desperate measures.

This could have disasterous consequences for Durite culture even if they manage to drive out the Lapsarians.DJVPM

>>82090449
Honestly, Durite culture is already going through some nightmares. The Kossoki are still nomads while plenty of the Durites have actually settled.
So we're likely in a situation where the Tsarina's Grand-daddy started trying to choke out stone-worship in the interior and now we're dominoing towards something that will make Capri Bay look small.

>>82090302
Found messed up text, the deranged auctioneer has someone else's text box. I'll try and fix that.

>>82090449
The central conflict is really whether they'd let their culture be destroyed by the Lapsarians or whether they're willing to destroy it themselves if it means that they get to bring the Lapsarians down with them.
It's a question of going scorched earth until the bitter end or losing what you once were and becoming something else (and that aspect of change really works for the PAIN axis of things imo)

>>82089305
you are right anon, on the money

>>82090485
I imagine that the Durites were originally all nomadic, but the stationary nature of the monolith has driven many to settle down

>>82090507
The Durite peoples shall forget the song of the Monolith, and be embraced beneath the waves.

>>82090507
It's all a part of the greater problem. EVERYTHING is now changing. Industry. The radicalization of Faith serving only a minority. Heretical experimentation with Steel, Salt and Coral.
Ironically a Lapisian Serf and a Durite serf might have more in common than the Lapisian Serf and someone in high Lapisian society.

Somehow, we can blame the Shapers for this.

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I think the good Fisher King has our best interest in mind :), being horrible transmuted can't be that painful right? when you hear the call, don't you just want to jump right in? He's waiting for you!

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>>82090628
>Somehow, we can blame the Shapers for this.
NO IT'S THOSE DAMN DELVERS
THEY'RE BEHIND IT ALL

>>82090642
Come home anon

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>>82090638
Hm. I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>82090638
>>82090672
based fishposting

I'm glad everyone is so enthusiastic. I encourage people to pop into the google doc and look over >>82090302 to think over new items.

We have 17 boxes to fill. This will be the last expansion of the chart as well. I will be working on it, but also be transitioning into other work for this on maps and the like.

>>82090378
I like it being built on a coral idea, might lean a bit into turning islands into "Dude! Corals, lmao" but I think its neat with them being considered heretics by both fish and stone

>>82090669
I HATE THE DELVERS, I HATE THE DELVERS

>>82090638
>>82090669
Nice try but humanity is already home.

>>82090708
Riffing off what >>82090507 has said, I might do something in the morning along the lines of "The Indentured Durite"

>Has moved to the city for work
>Needs to feed his family
>Lapsarian clothes to fit in
>In two generations the steppe will be forgotten

>>82090748
>has to remind his children to speak Durite at home

>>82090758
Now this, this is gold. Definately going to power up ms paint tomorrow

>>82090715
It doesn't need to all be coral. In fact, a combination of the suggested ideas would make for a more interesting place.
The Coral is just how everyone views it. Like Ireland and potatoes.

>>82090758
A little too close to home honestly.

>>82090758
This is good, but you could potentially make it more impactful with something like
>his children no longer even speak Durite at home

>>82090758
>Speaks lapsarian to his own children.

>>82090758
oh i love that
>>82090783
desu this >>82090758 feels better to me. Action sentences I guess

>>82090821
Agreed, >>82090758 fucking hits hard

>>82090821
Fair point. Either way I love the tragic elements it conveys. The Indentured Durite giving up his entire culture just to keep his family alive, and his children will never even know what they've lost.

>>82090748
Where'd that go? [5,4]? Or maybe [6,4] if the Factory Worker gets pushed one to the left.

>>82090873
I'd say 5,4. They've lost the link to stone, and moved towards pain, which seems fitting

>>82090909
Further from Stone and closer to Pain absolutely fits.

>>82090909
I think it's weird for them to be more to Fish than the Factory workers that have actual fish eyes. And they still have some connection to Stone left, the real tragedy is how they can see that connection being erased in front of their very eyes.

>>82090932
Maybe swap the places between them and the Factory Drone, then?

>>82090947
That's what I was going for. I had a stroke in >>82090396, but what I mean was to push the Factory Drone One Left (To [5,4]), freeing up [6,4] for the Indentured Durite

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Character Idea, the constable.
He is a night patroller in some city, he seems things writhe around, feels his days are numbered. He also misses his wife.
But it's only a cursory idea because we're normal people fagging and all. Well at least trying to add some more normies.

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>>82091113
>Royal Night Watchman
>Joined up to escape life as a longshoreman
>There's a serial killer out there carving up hookers
>now has to deal with journalists and vigilantes during his patrols
>"D-did you see that? It jumped onto the roof!"

>>82091171
As long as he doesn't need to go to the sewers, he'll be fine.

>>82091113
>drew the short straw, must now take prisoners down to the Seawall
>he must not look at the things moving in the water

>>82091189
The only thing that goes into the sewers are grenades.

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The Union Agitator
>Wants progress without pain
>Wants comfort without faith
>A rebel without a cause
Some anon wanted it last thread.

>>82091216
>Almost slipped off the wall into the water once
>Spent five minutes straight screaming
>Won't tell anyone what he saw, not even his wife.

>>82091317
Hell, I know this is far-fetched but add to him.
>His wife says strange things about the royal court in her very very occasional letters and reunions.

>>82091379
Or don't seems stupid.

this is really fucking cool but where do you get all the assets for this, is there some source for the wojak templates? i'm trying to google but it's too specific to find lmao

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>>82091456
I use this guy.

>>82091456
You just draw 'em, my dude.

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Also from last thread.
The Timajor Bandir
>Deserted his cause
>Only wants to loot
>Started having weird dreams

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>>82088742
Dunno what the fuck this is but I can't tell you how happy I am to see /tg/ finally create something again.

>>82091569
I nearly forgot this lad! Thank you.

>>82091494
Who are the Yothestein, Synanceians and Venitii? There is a lot about the Lapsarians and Durites, but not much about some of the others.

>>82091621
They're from the Vast, don't worry about them, this is a Lapsari-centric chart.

>>82091621
Yothestein are foreigners from a HRE-like clusterfuck, that Masovii may or may not be part of.
Venitii are a local people that live near the Venit river, they are workshipers of the Auntie Angler
I have no idea what Synanceia is. Apparently the royal academy is beconing more secular, so they probably are going through a period of centralization and industrialization like Lapsaria.

>>82091494
Veniti, Capri, Timajor, and Nemijski are regions inside of Lapsarian territory, same as Durit.

Masovii are a foreign power to the south.
Yothestein is a conglomerate of small kingdoms also far south.
Synance is a city in Lapsari.
Slifagg is a vast interior nation on a salt pan

>>82091696
meant to reply to >>82091621

>>82091621
>Venitii
>Native denizens of the Venit River, known for their immense cruelty and worship of Auntie-Angler as their matron
>Strict religious culture and hidden secrets not derrived from oil, steel, coral or dust
>Just really like drowning non-Venitii

>Yothestein
>Major principality in the neighboring state of Gilded Jasentorf, not really known for progressive technology or peaceful solutions
>Very much well known for their serfs, manoralistic traditions and powerful mercenary companies
>Technically on the Stone alignment but much prefer killing, guns don't feel right without pikes, etc

>Synaceian
>Old Esoteric order that has been losing its archaic religious roots, now get their jollies off on stealing relics from tribes in the Vast and plundering fossils

>>82091687
Synance is a city on Capri bay I believe.

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Character Concept
The unfortunate Visionary
>Knew what he was doing
>Didn't know the consequences
>Tried to use the dust of progress to make something new
>now he's something new
>Sees a something not quite man and not quite god in his dreams.

Durite irregulars who sided with Lapsari?

>>82091754
If they weren't Kossoki before, they probably are now.

>>82091754
That's just a Kossoki 2.0

>>82091736
I would say change some of the text. Mainly taking out the last line. I like it a lot though.

>>82091765
>>82091762
Makes sense, no need for it then.

>>82091768
>Knew what he was doing
>Didn't know the consequences
>Tried to use the dust of progress to make something new
>now he's something new
>Thinks slab knights are only the start.

>>82091784
I like it! I would say some details past the head spite are needed before adding. Perhaps a grey skintone would also be nice.

I'm going to draw the ballooner girl myself.

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COELACANTH as a title because of its "living fossil" status? Stone and fish into one... something like a paradox.

Also, something like a cultist for the salt folk, very friendly, but also very eager. Self destructive Masovii?
>MORE SALT!
>MORE!
>MORE!

>>82091797
Small nitpick, but the water in the Whale segment kinda ruins the color harmony of the compass

>>82091928
Maybe make the water reddish?

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>>82091805
how's this?

>>82091957
I like it! I may add some more cracks to his skin.

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>>82091797
Terracotta idol
>Brought from faraway land to meditate between sea and stone
>Or so it tells to those who can listen
>Appears spontaniously where you least except it
>Even more frequently now, since there are less shamans
>"Statue ascendant is punk-ass loser"
basicly rogue trickster spirits who try to trick people into replicating them. Claim to be strongest spirits despite not even knowing what fish are (even regualr fish). Not really stone despite being sculptures.

No idea where to put it, maybe lowest level next to great reef

>>82091965
Fine by me, I'm no MS Paint master

I figure that the visionary is the result of an attempt by a stone shaper or slab breaker(probably a stone shaper) to turn themselves into something in between a slab knight and a stone singer, a stone-singer brought about artificially from the dust of progress (maybe concrete?) less of a shaman or mystic and more like a necromancer or mad scientist that is big into concrete trans-humanism. He'd probably be very interested in dissecting corral addicts and would probably want to ally with the slab knights if he was certain that they wouldn't kill him on the spot.

>>82092088
>Professor "gifted" one by a colleague
>now he can't get rid of it

>>82092114
I'll second a colour change on the whale. Red water white hide.

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>>82092088
Alternative with mouth crevisse and additional texture for forbidden s o y jak affinity

>>82092121
I'll see what I can do.

>>82092128
I made a terracotta idol of you so clearly my argument is superior.

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>>82092114
one for below Sky Pirate

The Airship Pilot
>got into planes to get away from the horrors of the war
>Longs to take his airship and leave
>forced to return for parts and oil
>Fears the oil might be effecting him
>Clouds are apart from the sea. King Fisher has no sway up here. R-right?

What if, as the Vast grows in width, the Deep grows height? Like as the ocean recedes it isn’t shrinking but rather growing downwards.

>>82092160
rip cute Aerialist girl

Look, I know wojak is an easy template, but this is a real sausage fest and there's barely any cute girls. I know that sounds like a coomer argument, but it does add diversity.

>>82092189
my attempts at a girl looked like a fallout ghoul

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Man the doc is looking awesome, great work everyone.
I'm currently working on typing up the resources of the setting and just trying to fill in blanks atm. Anyone wanna jump in here?
I know Sky Pirate Anon had some idea about an Aether-substance that is sky related or something like that
Here's what I have so far:

>Oil:
Comes from the sea. A gift from the Kingfisher/other powerful beings. Essential fuel source. Responsible for the Industrial boom. Responsible for the Age of Sea Exploration.

>Dust:
Comes from breaking Slabs. Stoneshapers work it into steel, gunpowder, and other more esoteric materials. Responsible for Lapsari’s edge over the other nations. Partly alive.

>Salt:
Comes from??? Narcotic effects???

>Coral:
The Stone of the sea. Outlawed substance in some nations. Different corals cause different effects ranging from medicinal, narcotic, or even poison. Prolonged usage begins to change individuals in unsavory ways.

>>82092160
should probably be airships instead of planes

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>>82092160
I'm currently drawing something for that though. Perhaps he can go lower in faith.

>>82092189
Currently drawing her.

>>82092214
Bless you.

>>82092189
coomer though you may be, your argument is valid

>>82092197
>>82092160
your art is good anon, but maybe try transposing the details onto one of the preexisting wojak girls? Doomette comes to mind and maybe fits the text

>>82092214
>>82092160
hm, maybe upper right in the center grey, leaning pain and stone instead?

>>82092206
Also there's "Black Salt", which is the equivalent of coal.

>>82092189
No you're correct. Although I'd remove the cute from the prerequisite as plenty of the Lapisian women just look like the kelp farmer with bigger jugs.
What's Jane Doe doing? Is the Shamenesse unique or is Durite society just 'everyones gotta pick the crops' type deal? In a setting sheet now that we're covering Joe-Schmoe we gotta cover that stuff.

>>82092206
Don't forget steel, the purified stone. And Salts, vital both pale and black.

>>82092232
>"Black Salt", which is the equivalent of coal.
Why would the Sligaffi Transplant have to smuggle it then?

>>82092244
Shoot, didn't see that get added.

>>82092244
It's basically super-coal that MAY or MAY NOT release the ancient abominations long dead and entrapped within as ghosts. And sure if you burn one chunk of salt for a few days nothing happens.
But if you start doing that on an industrial scale that's when we get some fucking problems.

>>82092214
Oh sick.
Is anyone doing anything for [4,8] - because if not I can go do the Mirror Walker as >>82079601 and it fits pretty nicely into that space

>>82092246
I also had no idea it was added until quite recently, and I have absolutely no idea what it means. Is it a monkey? Is it a person? is its mouth sewn shut? I have no clue

>>82092244
Well there is the possibility that Riverboat tycoons view black salt as a rival to oil, and as a result have blacklisted it. So you have to smuggle it to transport it, not because the police will go after you but because the river mafia will.

>>82092254
Doesn't really sound like something that's be outlawed
>>82092268
This is more likely, but coal needs a different type of infrastructure to oil, so it'd be easy to know who was breaking the coal ban

>>82092257
>>82092244
So there’s salt pans in Masovii, is that where we’re getting black salt from?

>>82092259
The Siglaffi serve the Masovii, who are generally better masters than the Lapisians are to the Durites. But they're also culturally closer.
Probably got rep in the commonwealth so even if they are dying in the salt mines you're getting whacked by the local boss, not some dude on a stone-horse.

>>82092271
You say that but this is probably something that happened in the past, and now the industrialist types are overlooking historical records and laws to get their precious salt.

>>82092206
Salt comes from the new rising lands of the vast. Where nothing once was, salt now is. Newly rising from the sea, right before the water recedes, that’s when the salt forms. The black salt is at the waters edge, just below the surface.

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>>82092271
>This is more likely, but coal needs a different type of infrastructure to oil, so it'd be easy to know who was breaking the coal ban

>the cold war between the industrialists and tycoons is slowly heating up
>tycoons are organizing labor strikes and cutting rail lines, industrialists are funding smugglers and sabotaging riverboats
>aerialists are tossing dynamite on both sides in the dead of night as they fly overhead
>the police are realizing that this is going to end with someone important dead and a full civil war breaking out if something isn't done, but they're too busy with keeping the durites in line and the serial killers at bay to focus on stopping the conflict

Man, they say life on the frontier is bad, but the cities ain't much better.

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Hasyyiam something (Tribal?)
>Abandoned his gods for Oil
>Is addicted to Oil
>The crown gives him Oil

>>82092313
Some. Different Salt comes from different places. There is Salt from Water Abandoned by Fish, Salt from the Depths, and salt from the motions of Stone as you describe.
But it is still restrained to certain regions on the interior. The Ocean isn't like to give away salt, while the Vast gives it freely.

>>82092315
>You thought you should have worried about esoteric terrors!?
>Fool! We're having a civil war! Now take these bottles and burn down a police station!

>>82092325
Think Chechnyan, but instead of Allah they love Heroine.
Liquid whale Heroine.

>>82092328
>Tsarina: "A civil war? Those ungrateful wretches! After all I've done for them!"
>Deacon: "My Lady, this... has nothing to do with you..."
>Tsarina: "Oh. Well, keep them out of the palace grounds then."

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>>82092325
Guess who is the idiot that keeps posting the old versions?

>>82092336
I imagine the Tsarina would actually throttle a civil war, but the entire Imperial court and the Deacon are keeping it from her and saying it's just the Durites.
Meanwhile, the Tycoon is outside rubbing his greasy fingers and the Deacon is actually getting a little hot under the collar.

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Added the Aerialist.

>>82092361
Thank you.

>>82092361
PURPLE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL

>>82092214
Ah, you made terracotta idols be more benevolent. I had imagined them to be more sinister in shape. Like imagine coming to a durite village and finding nothing except clay idols lying around.

Not that i mind, there are enough blights on region already.

Okay, so suppose the Masovii Dignatary is there to constantly exert political pressure on the Lapisians to keep the Salt trade quasi legal, though well disliked by the Oil industrialists. The reason that they can't just tell him to fuck off is because with the Durite rebels causing enough trouble, they can't afford to offend the Masovii enough to bring them in as direct combatants - and as of the current moment the Masovii have remained a "neutral" party.
But the Masovii are and have always been stone worshipers. And using the money from the salt trade, have been funding the Durite rebels behind the scenes. But since they're not the ones directly doing it (that's what the Sligaffi are for) the Lapisians haven't been able to publicly call the Masovii out on it.

Does that work? It sorta gives a bit more depth to the Masovii and the Sligaffi's role by the coast while sticking with what was already writting for the Dignitary

>>82092378
Sorta-not-really-but-close-enough like the Brits pumping opium into China

>>82092378
And also the mercenaries that are hired are from another country.
So the Lapisarians can't even call bullshit on that.

>>82092378
Masovii is nominally committed to peace and generally won't do anything unless provoked. The status quo works and normally there's no threat, even if the Durites are supported by the Mosovii, the crown still thinks they can crush them.
If the Masovii were to get involved they would be a massive fucking threat, being able to lay claim to the Durite territories and possessing a formidable army that, while like Jasentorf isn't modernized is massive, mobile and tactically superior thanks to a combination of cavalry and sky-craft ships. So the Lapisians are currently ignoring their geo-political problems by attempting to strangle their problem minorities.

>>82092315
This is actually pretty great. Gives some more internal turmoil, and in the sense of a RPG, gives some city hooks to draw players in

>>82092361
What is that being? It's not white or grey! Quick, throw rocks at it! Set it on fire!

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>>82092408
Bro we've already got enough hooks to go around.
Capri Bay must be the Tetnus capital of the world holy shit.

>>82092418
So would you say we're almost done then?

>>82092431
it's never done. the vastness will grow larger

>>82092418
Kek
But I really do believe that the city is somewhat dry inactual industrial conflict, and something like >>82092315 (maybe mixed in with a bit of >>82092378) could bring in economic conflicts that could lead to either street fighting, subterfuge/sabotage, or, with the involvment of the Mazovians, Court politics.

>>82092418
There can never be enough hooks.

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>>82091927
>it's a Scholar of the Wilbur Sin episode

Chew with your good teeth

>>82092431
We're only nine down from completing this, so yea. LEVIATHAN Lapsaria Edition is a success. Although I was really more focused on the fact you can't swing a dead cat in this setting without impaling yourself on something sharp meant for fish.
Personally I like to think we can jump off this to look at other parts of the world. The Gilded State could be fun if you start creating the Electorate states.

>>82092378
> that's what the Sligaffi are for
Also connects to how the Siglaffi transplant smuggles coal. Maybe the Siglaffi are tthe mazovian's all purpose political scapegoat, and leave all politically risky moves to them to dissasotiate them fromtheir governmnet and their people

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Taking a break, posting the current. Please reply to this post with locations & reservations. Thank you.

>>82092439
We haven't exactly settled on a proper capital of Lapsaria, though it's likely on the Capri bay. We have the university city, but maybe a commoner who lives in the capital so we can name it?

>>82092453
Tagging this one so ypu don't forget
>>82092349

>>82092453
I've got an idea for [4,2] (just above Deacon). I feel like the Lapsarian faith could use some more presence.

>>82092464
Dude nothing's on the Capri Bay except [________]
The Capri Bay is the most dangerous place in the world right now

>>82092453


>>82092160 just right of Sky Pirates

>>82092473
Capri bay is a big bay. Like, if the Thames just went to hippo-ghost hell London is still right there.

>>82092464
I dunno, Capri Bay is not really a good location for the capital in its current state. I kind of viewed Capri Bay as a place where there was a major military fort/port AT BEST that protected the farmland further up river, but the actual capital city is on a different river.

Perhaps a historically important city could be mentioned (Caprimouth?) that's currently the base for Lapsarian Cleaner Squad.

>>82092447
>you can't swing a dead cat in this setting without impaling yourself on something sharp
Funny you should mention that, because when I originally suggested the Monolith ( >>82049997 ), it had two forms. That's the REAL hidden lore.

I'm surprised my suggestion with the Monolith went so far, to be honest.

>>82092470
Where is he supposed to go?

>>82092486
Caprismuth, Kingsvald, Oskau. Take your pick. We could do the actual Moskau thing and have the capital be moved out of Capri to the interior, but still touching two of the rivers.

>>82092498
Next to harpooner, above oil soaked savant.
He would feel right at home.

>>82092496
I was going top draw both versions of the Monolitth, but OP asked me to stick to one, so I chose the calmer one. I'm also surprised it lasted so far, not for the concept, but for the art

>>82092474
He might do better at [6,4] since he isn't extreme pain. He seems to be a military man and only slightly pain aligned.

>>82092486
Venit doesn't sound super safe either.
Based on >>82090124 could either be on the Nemijski or the Timajoir, depending on how close you want the Durite conflict to be to the capital
I'd go with the Timajoir personally

>>82092504
OSKAU OSKAU
QUEEN OF THE LAPSARIAN LAND
BUILT LIKE A ROCK TO STAND
PROUD AND DIVINE

>>82092514
that's fine

>>82092526
HAHAHAHA HEY

>>82092515
Having both the Timajoir and the Venit nearby and perhaps connected by canals works best. The Venit is not safe, but it is fast. The Timajoir is currently swamped with the majority of the traffic.
Meanwhile Nemijski is hick country.

Should an Aemid be an Eskimo or a Finn?

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Can someone archive this in the sup/tg/ archive?
I would but idk how to do it

>>82092579
Neither. They're closer to Sami, but instead of reindeer, they have stone-yaks.

>>82092593
Finns and Sami aren't the same thing?

>>82092583
It's archived on 4plebs, if that's any consolation.
Still, suptg is a little more reliable.

>>82092583
there's a big fucking button that says Request Thread. I went ahead and did it. previous threads are lost to 4plebs

>>82092504
>The Tsarina's great grandfather raised up a grand city of hubris on Capri Bay, the great city of [x]
>The Tsarina's father lived to see the effects of the Pact
>The Tsarina restored the capital to [y]

>>82092598
Cultural cousins. But they've got radically different lifestyles. The Finns are settled unlike the Sami who are nomadic. The latter lifestyle doesn't change much with time.

>>82092619
>previous threads are lost to 4plebs
I think this is why the google document is going to be important, as is eventually transcribing everything - most especially the ruleset - onto 1d4chan.org. The latter because that's how we'll get long term visibility after the threads are dead and buried.

>>82092619
>>82092583
I went there and the thread is there. Cool thing there's also a brief description.
How does the points system work in this website?

>>82092646
You vote threads up or down. If you vote up enough times, it gets a color change all the way up to gold. If it gets voted down enough, it gets deleted by the site's head archivist.

>>82092658
Oh. Simple enough. Thanks!

>>82092646
every time you vote up, it refreshes the archive and adds new posts

>>82092619
>>82092645
Like, the past threads, starting from when it was just a political compass one, are still on 4chan, like you can follow the links back.
Is that not good enough for them to be archived?
Push comes to shove there's desuarchive for the threads anyways

>>82092696
>Push comes to shove there's desuarchive for the threads anyways
The fact is, in the long term, the only absolutely reliable archive has been /suptg/. The other archives have been forced to delete full sized images (leaving only thumbnails) or shut down entirely. I remember when Archive.moe bit the dust for good, sad day.

Again, in the long term we want all of the individual character images saved separately on a site like 1d4chan or suptg, for posterity. This setting has a lot of potential, but it's going to go nowhere long term if all it ends up being is just a cool political compass and google doc floating out there unconnected to anything else.

>>82092506
Adding him next.

>>82092766
> A fucking FISH
> A fucking ROCK
> Some fucking CORAL
> The entire 'Buv F.C. Fan Battalion
Those mid-point fringes man.

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>>82092766
>>82092349
Made him an oil wrestler.

>>82092833
>Crown Executioner
Oh god he's a Gachimuchi.

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>>82092846
Fuck you

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The Aemid Sheppard
>Has no idea what's going on in the south
>Worries for his clan
>Just wants to herd his stone-yaks
I was thinking he should be on one of the 3 gray, but turns out the funny hat represents the four corners of the world, so bellow the kossoki works too.

>>82092850
>"Oh, fuck you stone man. Maybe you and I should settle it right here on the oil-ring if you think you're so tough."

>>82092696
just go in and archive them yourself. Click the /tg/ archive in the upper left of the page and then the button that says "ADD THREAD" in the sidebar. fill out the infor for thread number (first set of numbers in the URL) and go to town.

Problem is, a person can only submit one thread per hour. Since I archived this one, others should get the other threads

>>82092869
Neutral or faith/stone bottom certainly. The Aemids are lucky enough to have completely missed this pain situation.

>>82092883
I'll try for the 1st one, if someone wants to try to archive the 2nd (And maybe the Original Compass thread that started it all)

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Can someone give me a rundown on the 3 lesser fish gods? And/or help me set stuff up.

I'm working on The Mirror Walkers - see >>82079601 - and I'm just trying to get them to fit more into what's been established since I wrote that and throw in some more connections.
So basically, the sacrifices the Masovii Shamans make out on the salt pans (which largely go ignored by the Monolith, but that's besides the point) are left there, and their bodies dry up in the salt and the heat until they mummify. However, on the very rare occasions when it rains out there, the salt pans essentially form a short lived ocean of saltwater, allowing the Fish Gods to exert power in the interior of the Vast for as long as the water remains.
The Mirror Walkers are those mummies gifted breath again under the Fish Gods' power. But I'd like to tie them to one of the Fish Gods in specific so (which gives both of them a bit more connection) and maybe them into the salt / black salt trade that's been talked about a bit above

>>82092909
Archived the second, this is the original compass thread if someone wants to archive
>>82025910

I need to take a break to have dinner. Please reply to this post with things to add/alter.

>>82092943
On it.

>>82092934
>Auntie Angler is a ruthless beast and a creature of hunger.
>She is master of both the Venit River and the Venitii people, the latter of whom reveal her nature through their secrecy and sacrifices.
>Twas she who was most aware of pain and laid the foundations for humans to follow the path. Unlike her fellows, she seems to take a much more deliberate interest to things on the surface.

>The Eal Sire is enigmatic and seemingly paradoxical in description.
>The only certain elements that bind it are creation and the Timajor River it is said to sleep under, but some suspect it was the beacon for the pact.

>Father Oyster is the bright and strange one, master of the Nemijski and the Transformer.
>His pearls are strange objects neither of fish nor stone, although he does change using the nature of stone itself.
>He is also the least connected of the Deep Ones, being far from the others and his river stretching far into the Vast's Interior.

>>82093005
Eel sire needs to be expanded upon a little, desu.

>>82093005
>>82093012
He in some way governs dreams, since he gave the bandit dreams.

>>82093005
That sounds like Father Oyster is what I'm looking for given
>change using the nature of stone itself
>his river stretching far into the Vast's Interior
Though I do agree with >>82093012

>>82093012
I think it'd be interesting if the lack of information on him wasa good thing. Most people are thankful to the Eel for the Timajor being so calm and its margins being so fertile. They fear what would happen were he to wake up, given that his physical form is the only one rumored to be located within the confines of Lapsaria, so thay bless the lack of interest and impact he has on their daily lives

>>82093033
>>82093012
>>82093042
I'd prefer to keep him enigmatic, although the actual nature of his paradoxes can be fleshed out certainly.
Dreams are a good place to start.

>>82093062
Even if there is little information on the Sire himself, there should at least be people talking about him or worshiping him. He can be mysterious, but should not be unknown.

So we just need an Yechod to have all the cultures of Lapsaria on the chart. Gypsi or Jew?

I don't really have anything to contribute right now, I'm just bumping the thread because I love it.

>>82093075
True enough, which is why I sugest the route of worshiping him as both a force of good (fertility for crops and a good route for ships) as well as a potential disaster waiting to happen were he to wake up

>>82093075
>The tradition of Lapsarian 'Eel singers' and Eel Handlers resembles Cobra performers of the near east and evangelical snake handling
>Worshipers are known to entrance amphibious Timajor eels and eventually release them with 'gifts' for their sire, usually feeding the creatures with eyes.
>Small shrines dot the Timajor and are protected savagely by the bandits.

>>82093096
Ashkenazi. They are glassworkers who are currently watching their guilds die to the Tycoon.

>>82093096
> Gypsi or Jew?
Yes
Big nose, money culture, but Romani/Gipsy clothing/acessories

Actually, right below the Wall. "The Chief Wall Officer."
>Partakes in oil to soothe his joints.
>Coral to ease his mind.
>Salt to pass the time.
>The only thing he doesn't partake in is guard duty.

>>82093110
>>82093112
I'm going to get the happy merchant then.

>>82093112
>>82093129
Nose yes, but it seems like the Lapsarian nobles had no qualms with doing their money handling themselves.
The Yechods are craftsfolk. The Smith who was responsible for the original Slab Knights was made capable by the Tycoon using Oil and Steel.

>>82093122
I'd kind of prefer more neutral normal people. Townsfolk and PC archetypes.

>>82093129
kek
>>82093134
>The Yechods are craftsfolk
You are right. Still want the Jew/Gipsy fusion for them though

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>>82092833
Order of Icthys
>Eyes and ears of the Deacon
>Keepers of the Faith
>Tired of exposing heretics, just wants to meditate
>Spoken of in whispers, feared by all
meant for [4,2], just above the Deacon

>>82093168
>those scales are mostly tattoos
>except the ones that aren't

>>82093168
sorry, it should be spelled 'Order of Ichthys'