>>82130747
Is doesn't matter if he is stupid, only that he is based.

>>82130747
to repeat because it sorta got taken over by the glassblower discussion
Suggestion moving the Deacon one space to the left to place him more FISH

>>82130747
>Lapsarian Climate
Oooooh, so we're getting some mapping/geographing(?) done?

Point of discussion, is Leviathan Grimdark? I would say no, but it's really up to interpretation.

>>82130797
I'm working on it now. I didn't forget, just haven't gotten to it yet.

>The Prince has absurdly low stats in everything besides luck and raw confidence
>Even the Suitor is sweating because he just keeps plodding along cheerful as can be
>Everyone is second guessing themselves about him
>Even the Deacon is getting twitchy
>Meanwhile, the Prince just having a good time in this strange country
Much like the Harpooner, we can learn much from this man.

>>82130802
No. Even if there is darkness, there is a lot of light. You just got to stay out of the bad places.
Bad rivers. Maybe invest in a few masks.

>>82130802
Don't think so, but as you said, it's up for interpretation. If you go by the wikipedia given definition of a grimdark setting ebing "dystopian, amoral, or violent", then yeah. But I think hopelesness in changing the current situation is a big part of Grimdark, and if nothing else in leviathan nothing is stopping you from either a) Fucking off to another corner of the globe where things might be better or b) actually possibly improving the situation

>Prince is told by a spy that the Tsarina is a lesbian
>"Well, I'm not too religious myself, but I wouldn't mind converting!"

>>82130802
No, it's just depressing.
Just like real life

>>82130747
> A Yechod Smith helped forge the first Slab knight
> Yechods are jewish influenced
> Various Jewish myths revolve around Golems
Are the Slab Knights Dust Golems?

>>82130747
Can you swap the boons line from the suitor to this, another anon had a better idea for the line
> Hooks begged him to accept the gift. Took it out of generosity

>>82130802
I've personally been getting more Lovecraftian/Cosmic Horror tones from it, given all the funky fish people we have rocking around (not to mention the giant rock that is basically the world and really doesn't give a shit about anyone).

>>82130921
Fun fact, the part of continental tectonic plate that has been pressed under another one and is slowly sinking into molten innards of earth is called "slab"

>>82130747
Holy shit I can't believe this is still going. Someone should archive those previous threads.
What's the deal with the archaeologist?

>>82131159
kek never mind they've been archived mb

We need to sort out what was the Ververia campaign.

>>82131194
could stand to sort out a bit more about the slab knights too

Some ideas:
>Capri bay had a major city on its shores and several smaller towns
>during the Betrayal most within a few hundred feet of the shore were taken and transformed
>this is in the terms of tens or hundreds of thousands of phantoms
>those who were not taken but were nearby were imparted 'sensitivity'
>mystical and spiritual sensitivity has gone from ungodly uncommon to common enough to be employable by the military.

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Added the Vastian Rock Eaters.

My idea is Vastian is a general term for the cultureless peoples who somehow survive in the desert's interior. Little more than cavemen.

Also the Phrenology Skill ties Vastian to Durites (considering their similar grey skin).

Whoever came up with the Goguryeo, I'm thinking of changing the name a bit so it's not straight up old Korea.
I tried fusing it with the Okinawan kingdom of Ryukyu to come up with Kyugoryo, is this alright?
Also adding a Jem- prefix instead of Gem, because the text on the emissary referenced Jem instead of Gem, so i thought it might have been your original intent and it got auto-corrected or something.

For the new compass: Bottom Row, center left:
>Village Watchman:
>Watches for fires
>Beats the Yechods when he feels like it
>Was the blacksmith, handed the shop over to his son
>Worried about the volume of salt he's seeing lately

>>82130802
>is Leviathan Grimdark?
I think it's more a "the world is dangerous and things are in a state of flux" but happy times were present in living memory, so it's not like everybody is hopeless.
>>82130921
I think this has potential. It goes well with the existing mix of disdain for them and appreciation of their usefulness
>>82131159
>What's the deal with the archaeologist?
I think we shouldn't prescribe it in too much detail, since this is somewhere the players can come in and be involved with as it happens. But he touched the monolith - not out of reverence, but curiosity- and something touched him back, something he's bringing back to the Lapsarian capital.

Potential entries

>The Venitii Artillerist
>Fathers have always served the Crown, Second to Auntie
>Joined for tradition, stayed to shred Landies
>Erect for General Kelchek
>The Mask Stays on

>The Lapsarian Dock-Worker
>Someone always needs to do this shit
>Boats, Air-Boats, Oil-Boats and the Dredgers
>Always has pocket change
>Multiple debilitating drug addictions

>The Capital Street Beggar
>The Scum of society
>He survived the fuckery that took the old (new) capital
>Walked and swam to the new (old) capital
>Demands seaweed wine

>The Lapsarian historiographer
>Came from a monastic family, can't really follow tradition
>Got into history at the university
>Plans on using his degree to extort aristocrats
>This shit is wiggity-wack yo

>General Kelchak
>Career Officer who rose to General in the New Army
>Only ever loved the Cannons
>Good Friends with the River Admirals
>Would sacrifice anything for the Tsarina

>The Street Orphan
>Third in command of the general Orphan Landsmoot
>Raised by the sewers and canals
>Information costs you
>Snitches Get Stitches

>The Crippled Veteran
>Lost his legs in North Veveria
>Still doesn't know if it was the Kossoki or friendly fire
>Would rather die than go back North
>So decrepit nothing will bother taking him in the night

>The Ghost Hunter
>Mother was a Shamanesse, taught him everything he knows
>Often mocked by Capri scavengers
>He always finds the bodies
>Ain't afraid of no-ghost

>>82131330
>>The Venitii Artillerist
I'll try this one once I finish >>82129517's Lord Coloner of the Airforce ( And maybe >>82130496's Freeskal Marsh Herder)

>>82131330
>>82131390
where are we on the Venitii siege equipment preferences?

I suggested they were expert cannon smiths, and cannoneers.

another anon said they'd prefer ballistae and scorpions

>>82131298
So are these the guys getting sacrificed by the Masovii in the salt pans?

>>82131498
No idea yet.

>>82131484
Ornate cannons (perhaps in the same pattern as their ornate masks) would be cool.
Medieval siege stuff would clash pretty hard with the modernization going on, and not in a way I think we want it to

>>82131484
Why not both? Before industrialization and Gundpower they focused mainly on ballistae and scorpions, but after the modernization of the army they adapted and became cannon producers, though still having a thing for adaptations of old-fashioned siege weaponry with modern Tech, though mostly for decorative purposes

>>82131516
>>82131524
I like that

ornate decorations, precise bore drilling makes them accurate and powerful, while being the most well decorated thing your peasant enemy has ever seen.

I am consider in [3,1] to make:
>The Lapsarian Master of Whispers
The spymaster & leader of the secret police.

>>82131484
That was me.
>>82131516
>>82131524
I support the ideas of these anons.
A venitii at home would rather shoot you with the old reliable family crossbow, but he isn't going to turn down a gun if nescessary.
The same goes for the siege weapons.

>>82131516
>>82131558
I think it's probably be ballistae like >>82131524, said, but ornately maid.

>>82131504
>>82131498
I do like the idea that the Masovii have given the Slifaggi carte blanche to drag as many Vastian savages from their saves to kill on the salt pan. The Masovii are preparing for confrontation with the Lapsarian, clearly, and have turned to magic to do something. They are waking things up, including the Mirror Walker.

>>82131564
>[3,1]
That's a lot of pain. Will he be a tortured soul himslef, or is that just becaise of the pain he causes others?

>>82131564
>Master of Whispers
I like that. I think we should shy away from "institutional" sounding anmes for the secret police, and present them as a bit more loosely defined and loyal to the Tsar's throne personally, not as a govt office for the nation as a whole.
Which means they will but heads witht he hooks, the deacon, the railroads, and the smugglers.

>>82131595
Well, the salt shaman is impressed if the number of sacrifices, so it means that it's an unusual amount.
Probably more to do with a rapid industrialization to keep up and more demand for black salt than trying to wake up the mighty salt lord.

>>82131498
>>82131595
Are the mirror walkers intentional? I thought that the Masovii were sacrificing for the sake of sacrificing (lol. Lmao) and the Mirror walkers were just a thing that happened

>>82131656
*A thing that happened because of Father Oyster being sneaky
Dammit

>>82131656
yeah, i also had the impression the Mirror walkers were a "natural" phenomena

>>82130747
On the Lapsarian Airship Pilot:
musn't > mustn't

>>82131681
>>82131656
>>82131595
Speaking of the mirror Walkers, they were originally meant to be nearer the Fish side but there was no space. Now that tthere's room, maybe push it 2 to the left?

>>82131330
>Mistress of the River Lotus
>Owner of one of the most successful 'Water-Brothels'
>Old laws of the River allow for legal loop-holes
>Anonymity costs extra
>Diversified into perfume sales

>The Winery Owner
>Concerned about increased monopolies in the industry
>Heir to one of the oldest wineries in the country
>Business is still good at least
>Smells of the weed

>The Lapsari Water-Dog
>Cares not for politics
>Cares not for war
>Just wants to hunt ducks
>Loves his owner unconditionally

>The Guppy Shark
>Terror of the rivers
>Eats small children, they taste the best
>Even the Fish despise him

>The Traditional Gunsmith
>Still caters to the old nobility
>Almost erotic love for the powders
>Plans on shooting up some industrialists bigwigs
>Before the cough gets too bad

>The Phantasmagoria Master
>Has such wonders to show you
>Most of which are fraudulent spoofs
>What actually goes on in Capri bay scares the funky pants off him
>A source of joy in the harsh urban landscape

Took me a while, added The Emperor In Opal in [8,11]

>>82131931
Who?

Still to add:
>The Northern Border Soldier
>The Kossoki Priest
>The Kossoki Temple Guard
>The lapsarian Monsignor
>The Populist Carver Monk
>The Alerian Merchant

To Draw:
>The Lapsarian Master of Whispers

Current Counts:
99/121 (with the additions)

>>82132015
Oh, the leader of Masovii. I think someone had named him the Lord-Electant last thread.

>>82132016
The Emperor of the Mosavii Commonwealth.

>>82132051
>Lord-Electant
Ah, I must have missed that.

>>82131931
>>82132051
Yeah, I think the Title Emperor is a bit generic, something like Lord-Electant Might work better.
Also, where did the inspiration for tthe design of the crown come from? It looks cool though a bit like an elaborate cupcake

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>>82132061
Switched it, added 'High' to make the text balance better.

>>82132077
Just kept adding layers.

>>82132077
Agree, on both the name and the cake.
But I want the cake crown to stay.
>>82132048
How about instead of the populist carver, you add his boss, the arch-bishop?

>>82132117
>How about instead of the populist carver, you add his boss, the arch-bishop?
I am trying to add people more slowly involved with Lapsaria, which is why I hesitated on the Arch Bishop. Maybe the Patriarchal Order Monk?

So the setting has ritual based magic, at least for how I am constructing the mechanical side. I based the magic off of 19th and early 20th century occultism. So far we have a fair number of more tribal mystics, but I am thinking of who to add on the Lapsarian side of magic.

>>82132132
But neither the patriarchal or the populist are invested in Lapsaria. I would argue that the Arch-Bishop has more interest in the place than both of them simply because he is the leader of a rival church, but the best option is to add none of them and keep it internal Lapsaria.

>>82132168
Sounds good.

>>82132168
Wait, i'm an idiot! There is one that would care for what's happening in Lapsaria, The Sister in Black Iron. Her job is to protect the monks and pilgrim, and both are outlawed and hunted down there.

>>82132185
Makes sense. I'll add her.

What's the quick rundown on Alerians?

>>82132302
Fishtalians.

>>82132340
So Portuguese?

>>82132340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bEZHVkhaAE

where would >>Free Diver go

A group of people who free dive >>(Freediving, free-diving, free diving, breath-hold diving, or skin diving is a form of underwater diving that relies on breath-holding until resurfacing rather than the use of breathing apparatus such as scuba gear.

Besides the limits of breath-hold, immersion in water and exposure to high ambient pressure also have physiological effects that limit the depths and duration possible in freediving.)

this group treat free diving as a way of life with some being extremely fanatical saying diving in dangerous waters and dyeing is part of the life

>>82132363
You talking about >>>82093436 ?

>>82132349
Kek

>>82132363
>>82132386
I feel like their diving could be extended by using salts or oils, even without equipment

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>The Wall that Weeps
>A Memory of a Stranger Time
>Gave Away Everything
>Remembers when the world was Young
>Hope lives in the small places

>>82133029
That looks like a male nipple lactating

>>82133072
I didn't see that until you said it you son of a bitch.

>>82133092
The Pain must be shared.

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Ok, that's everything we have so far added, I'll need to do a redraw of something.

>>82132574
>>82132363


>the Free Divers

> No tech just SEA OIL AND SALT
> Must go Deeper
>We are all equal in the depths
> the deeper we are the deeper our minds are

>>82133184
Planning on doing the Kyugoryo emissary, coul 6,9 be reserved?
I don't know if I will finish before going to sleep.

>>82133253
done

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>>82131656
>>82131681
>>82131707
t. guy who wrote them in
As far as I was doing it, the Mirror Walkers are more a by-product of the Masovii's religious activates than the goal of them - the rain there is pretty damn infrequent (so it wouldn't really be practical anyways) but moreso the Walkers are following the Father's song - which is something that if they knew about it they'd be pretty upset about.

>>82131498
>>82131595
the interior vastians being the source of sacrifices is as good an idea as any, though that's probably not the "only" source of them. Tbh when I was writing I didn't really have a direct source for them, but the world was also a lot less developed then so idk

>>82131707
They way they were written originally was a lot more fish aligned, but because of the space issues they were set to a bit more of a neutral position. They would totes listen to the Monolith as well, if it cared enough to talk to them. Imo, as stuff is now, they're fine on either side of the Coral, so they can stay or be moved based on if someone else needs either slot.

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>>82133184
Could the lapsarian Officer be Pushed one right, and use [7,3] for
> Lord Colonel of the Airforce
> Young and full of hope
> Growed a mustache to appear older
> Thinks he'll be able to revitalize Lapsaria's airforce
> Doesn't realize his position is a political trap

>>82133498
nice, but it's "grew" not "growed"

>>82133072
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it

>>82133511
>nice, but it's "grew" not "growed"
I am retarded. I thought grew but wrote growed

>>82133498
What an absolute lad. I'm doing the world coastline at the moment, but will add it in due time.

>>82133575
>I'm doing the world coastline at the moment,
Oooh. Will you be posting along as you go? And how far are you drawing the map (Full world or just "near" Lapsaria)?

>>82133595
I am doing the first world first so I can make a climate map.

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>Lapsarian Cavalry Officer
>sounded forth a trumpet that shall never call retreat
>airships are for traitors
>by saber and by pistol she shall break the foe
>has nightmares about her horse sinking in quicksand

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A Revised version of the Wall that Weeps because god damn it all.

>The Wall that Weeps
>Hidden away in the Durit Hills
>A Memory of a Stranger Time
>Gave Everything it had to Give
>Hope lives on, Always

>>82133747
It looks even more like a nipple now.
I'm sorry dude, rethink your entire drawing and start again.

>>82133747
Yup, I still see it. The nipple is a fucking memetic hazard.

>>82133747
>Wall Presenting Nipples

>>82133747
It's also like, super blurry for some reason

>>82133693
>the first world first
I assume you mean the whole world.
I mean, that's fine, though I recommend not makimg anything too detailed yet, as we might still want to change stuff around. And for stuff faraway we'll probably touch on more later.

>>82133826
I'm afraid now if I restart it's just gonna follow me.
Help.

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>>82133203

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>>82133921
Ah yes, I also love the flag of French Sudan

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>>82133865
I do do the whole world at hardly any level of detail.

This is the basic. Red is Lapsari.

Orange are active (tall) mountain ranges. Yellow are inactive (shorter) mountain ranges. Being on the west coast means Lapsari will be warm for its lattitude but the shape of the continent means it'll still be cold. Think the climage of England and the pacific northwest. I put deserts to make the Vast's interior a single massive desert.

>>82134142
Open question to everyone: is the current capital northern, southern, or towards the center?

I guess this depends on where we want the Capri River to be, as that's the old homeland.

>>82134142
>Red is Lapsari.
I see. Is this with the Durite territoies? Where +- would you be drawing the lie between Durite and Lapsarian lands?

Also, if Lapsaria is so north, it's probably pretty cold (> the climate of England and the pacific northwest), and we haven't really considered snow or tundra/near polar regions in lapsaria at all

>>82134283
This is with Durite acquisitions and with the Lapsari projecting their power further north. it is pretty far north. My idea is that the world is warmer than earth. Not by a lot, but a tad warmer.

It makes Lapsari wet and humid.

>>82134142
Honestly I always figured Lapsaria was on the southern Coastline of a landmass at the further western edges of the (apparent) continental body.
More Ukrainian than Rusii so to speak.

>>82133184
small nitpick, but the Jasentorf wojaks have Jesentorf instead

>>82134425
Ah, whoops, I'll fix it.

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>>82134354
I see. And where would the Durite territories be? Because if they're at pic related (blue), it's a somewhat weird positioning for highly mobile people due to the near encircling mountains, and as we know the Durites (or rather their ancestors) used to raid multiple countries around the world, and should be able to move towards the Monolith near the center of the continent.
Though if they are pic related Green, whoile it makes more sense with what we know of the Durites, the occupation seems somewhat small compared to Lapsaria as a whole, and seemingly arbitrarily limited

>>82134485
That's what I was thinking, but I am redoing the coastlines now, so I'll redraw based on that.

>>82134559
That;s what you were thinking Blue or green?because I think Blue could be solved by breaking the mountainrange to give the Durites free access to the rest of the continent. green would be a bit more tricky, as Lapsaria as a whole would have to get smaller for it to make sense

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>>82134602
>>82134559
Sorry, the green was what I was thinking. I marked it in green on this one. This map makes Lapsaria massive though, but a lot of it would be frozen and unusable.

The North Border guard only makes sense if there is a norther border that NEEDS defending. So perhaps I should rearrange again.

>>82133943

its the free diver symbol maybe it started is french sudan

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>>82134632
Maybe like this then? That north bay would be Capri Bay, but being a cold bay that might ice over for part of the year doesn't really make sense for their most important naval port.

>>82134632
>This map makes Lapsaria massive though, but a lot of it would be frozen and unusable.
Also, distortion due to the map being a projection of a sphere definitely makes it look bigger,

> The North Border guard only makes sense if there is a norther border that NEEDS defending.
maybe Masovii is on the right side of Lapsaria's mountain chain, and some of their people claim the lands to tthe north of Lapsaria. Altough unusable, it's still techinally a frontier with another country and thus must be defended.

Though lapsaria still *seems* massive (though i think while we're making a Global map that'll always look pretty weird), and locations for its neighbors are limited.

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>>82134632
>>82134485
honestly I had them figured for more territory

>>82134700
Oh, you already reworked it.
This is cool, and we can still apply what i suggested here >>82134711. Though I think the Durite occupation can be slightly increased

>>82134716
Problem is this is a world map, so both of those territories would be absolutely massive, especially the Durite's since theres less distortion from the projection.

>>82134755
I feel like this is something that we should be using a 1500s style map for.
IE; So I think France is a Cube and Turkey is a very misshapen sandwich.

>>82134755
true, I do think they should hold comparable territory to the Lapsarians though, it would add considerably to the logistical side of the issues they've been having.
Even if most of the space is unused steppe, or impassible mountains, it gives a lot more space for rebels and insurgents to set up from.

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>>82134781
> 1500s style map
Considering the world's and lapsaria's tech level are in the 1800's, we can definitely have semi-precise maps. Pic related is a 1817 map

>>82134799
True, and I agree they need a little more space in the map. But remember that equal in the map doesn;t mean equal in practice, due to map distortions. So for the sizes to be near equal, the map area for the durites needs to be somewhat smaller

>>82134879
Potentially, but I feel like this is a very recent science.
However I'll be honest this is just to leave some grey space while getting a general feeling for landmass.

>>82134879
so the far north looks a bit like a botch circumcision but the rest is relatively on point

>>82134899
well given the existence of airships, cartographical surveying might actually be a lil bit better for the equivalent time period

>>82134900
>so the far north looks a bit like a botch circumcision but the rest is relatively on point
Kek. As they say, Mercator is one hell of a drug

>>82134899
>Potentially, but I feel like this is a very recent science.
Well, this is a late 1700's map (1786). There's definitely some wonkyness, but still generaly good.

+ Defining the whole world is, according to CCA, much more a question of getting worldwide climates right than actually what any civillization knows, so a map focusing on one single nation could definitely be more limited.

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>>82134899
>>82134879
>>82134781
This map is more to just get some general ideas, not for the actual map of Lapsaria. I am going to zoom in for that.

I messed with it again, brought Lapsaria down, but now parts of it are in the tropics, so that feels wrong too.

>>82134991
Ah good, now it's a bellybutton

>>82134991
Friend, your nipple isn't looking so good.

>>82134991
THERE WE GO
Much better.

>>82134986
I'm starting over I think.

>>82134991
Now there’s a wall that weeps and doesn’t look like a nipple.

>>82134991
turn your head sideways and it looks kinda like your mum did this morning

>>82134986
>>82135020
Keep trying, every iteration is getting closer. It’s a tough nut to crack but once we bust that nut it’ll make everything else easier once we have a strong foundation to place things on and fill in the blanks.

>>82135009
My nipples are such terrible things sir.

>>82135035
Be glad we're not in the part of the Vast where the Walls Fuck.

>>82135079
kek

>>82134986
I think moving this up, and maybe expanding it horizontaly would be good

>>82135079
>Be glad we're not in the part of the Vast where the Walls Fuck.
>*sound of rock roughly rubbing against rock*
>high art for vastion rock eaters

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Ok, I think this might work.

>>82135320
Should the world be more ocean than land? The big continent strip is sorta weird to me

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>>82135320
Oh yeah, this looks quite good. Gonna fill in the rest of the mountains now?

For reference, here's what i think by looking at this map. Blue is masovii, Yellow is Jasentorf, purple is Sligaffi.

>>82135395
That's probably too big for Masovii, we need to have a large section in the center that's just Vastian Wasteland.

>>82135393
Maybe thwos out the southern pole of continent and make it a bit weirder down south to compensate.

Also, >>82135320 anons requested a couple of trheads ago that the coast of Jasentorf be more ragged-like (Like denmark), so when we decide where it's going to be tat should be spomething we keep an eye out for that

>>82135424
I generally don't do any roughness on the coasts until I zoom in a great deal more.

>>82135432
lol, that's the opposite of me. When I draw a map, I draw fjords first and then everything else next because fjords are so much fun to draw.

I feel like the Vast should be a little more... Uh. Vast.
Potentially all of the power's we've addressed also being on the same side. Except for Goryu.

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>>82135415
>That's probably too big for Masovii,
I think that as a commonwealth, it's fine for it to be pretty big, considering all the cultural acceptance shenaniigans. Also, map distortions and stuff. Though it can defininitely be smaller by a tad.

>>82135415
>we need to have a large section in the center that's just Vastian Wasteland.
i though That'd be futher to the south, like Grey in pic related (Subject to the mountains due to rain shadows and whatnot)

>>82135432
Fair

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>>82135295

>>82135544
Omegakek

>>82135544
This thread has given me hope I'd forgotten and shitposts I'd never imagined.

>>82135522
Masovii should be between Lapsaria and the Vast. Maybe not directly beside Lapsaria, but that sort of thing

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Ok, the first level of zoom. This is before I start doing the actual Atlas styling, It will go through another zoom for this. The main thing I need is to begin labeling locations. Out there on the northern coast, the western Bay I think is Capri.

>>82135639
I second this, they're the horse based wall between the slab breakers and the monolith
>>82135522
we still need somewhere for the sunset isles, and I believe they were said to be to the south of the vast

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>>82135639
>Masovii should be between Lapsaria and the Vast
Fair, something like this then?
Can't move Masovii much furtehr south without it becoming a Tropical country, which seems against what's beens estabilished for it thus far
(If some borders seem a bit arbutrary, is because thy're based on landmaks like rivers or mountains not yet there, and are open for alteration)
>>82135678
Sunset Isles can be pink? Though with more isles

>>82135544
I’m so blessed that my snark and has birthed such beauty into the world.

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>The Hasyyiam Elder
>Watched his culture die
>Watched his people turned into belly-dancers and oil-wrestlers
>Left to go to the capital for his last years
>The Orphans around here like his stories, at least

>>82135756
Wtf, for some reason when I moved the Isles down a copy remained up. Consider just the ones in pink

>>82135765
Jesus that's sad.

>>82130802
>>82135765
to answer ops question, it wasn't before you made this post

>>82135765
Is there any culture in this entire setting that is going to have a happy ending?

>>82135853
depending on how the Durite conflict pans out

...Maybe

>>82135853
Rockfuckers seem pretty happy with fucking their rocks.

>>82135869
Even if they win their culture is going to be horribly scarred and possibly even end up just as bad as their former oppressors.

>>82135805
>>82135831
Eyup. The Oils are some Krokodil shit.
But even if it's the end for the old Hasyyiam, the Elder is going to have his stories survive because he does pass them on. Which is more than can be said of some parts of Lapsarian Culture.

>>82135853
All cultures either die out or transform. Or if they're lucky, they blossom outwards and create something new with a clear connection.

>>82135879
well if both sides cripple each other, the Kossoki get a happy ending

>>82135890
>>82135853
actually probably worth noting that the Kossoki aren't exactly displeased with the current state of affairs.
they're not required by the Lapsarians to follow orders or maintain a constant presence in Durite lands, so they're more or less free to come and go as they please and fight at their leisure.
all things considered this is a bit of a morale high point in the culture.

>>82133184
I think I forgot to mention, but the compression is way less noticable now. Thanks for adjusting it!

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Added the two new items.

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I feel like my problem is this peninsula thing we're doing. It makes things very constricted at some points, and it makes it hard to have a big inland centre part like the Vast's supposed to be
I think something more globular / Pangaea-like would work better
not that what i just drew up in paint is anything incredibly serious, but as an example
>>82135320
And just to confirm, the brown here is mountain ranges, right?

>>82136173
I think you forgot >>82133498

>>82136173
Is maid kill? If so that's too bad.

>>82136214
No, she's just claimed. By the Tsarina

>>82136224
NOOOO KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY DEPRESSED WAIFU YOU AUTOCRATIC WHORE

>>82136173
what do you mean by claimed

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>>82136192
WATCH THIS, I REVERSED IT

>>82136173
Think you can save [4,7] for the Venitii Artillerist I'm working on?

>>82136214
Hopefully she gets moved to the remaining neutral spot. I like the plucky lass.

>>82136229
You are too late anon. I have already written fanfiction of the Tsarina ruthlessly encouraging the maid to be more confident and utterly plowing her poor sleeping habits.
Leaving the poor maid one of the better put together people in the royal household and a vital part of her information network. And I guess they smash at some point.

>>82136280
>Hopefully she gets moved to the remaining neutral spot. I
But she needs to be PAIN. And I guess kinda fishy is appropriate as she's mostly discovering dish plots

>>82136271
AAAAHHHH
Surely he is a Stone-Shaper!!!

Raise the Pikes!

>>82136295
Should she swap places with the Drone? He ain't feeling much these days.

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alright so the Jasentorf standard for arms seems to be flintlocks.

So as was suggested on the doc, we could make percussion caps a development of Oil alchemy, another boon of the Bargain.

so to keep with Lapsaria being several decades ahead of the rest of the world, again as was suggested on the doc, we could have them using something like the Dreyse needle gun.
It'll give them a definite but not overpowering edge in firepower at the cost of complexity and likely causing the production bottleneck that was mentioned as one of the logistics issues Lapsaria is facing.

>>82136173
If we do a "Southern Border Soldier", then he should have a line "at least he's not on the northern front"

>>82136305
>He ain't feeling much these days.
Kek.
But i think she needs to be at most 4 down form the top. She is pretty paranoid (And fucked)

>>82136326
kek, yes

>>82136332
S-surely the maid will find a party of investigators that will use the information she's gathered to expose the corruption of the oil industry.

>>82136307
Just remember that even with flintlock technology, rifles are possible. Just very rare. So Jasentorf's skirmishers can be scarily accurate if they're backed by a powerful prince.

>>82136332
Doesn't leave much in the way of options, and she is still very much a sweaty-ass normal human being. We'll see what the re-org does and shuffle what we can I guess.
Still, it's a rare situation when I find every part of a setting engaging and the same with a chart. The only thing I'd really want for LEVI is a touch-up to everything after we finish the chart.

>>82136413
I'm well aware, there were rifled matchlocks back in the 16th century, I feel like most of them would use smooth bore for the quick reloads though.
like I'm pretty sure britain adoped a rifled musket at one point and switched back to smooth bore because they could get an extra shot off every minute.

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>>82136272
I've got the Cannon itself Done, but Now I need to head to bed. When I wake up I'll try finishing this.

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What's the endgame of the Fisher King? To use the oil to turn the human race into deep ones? To cover the entire world in ocean? It seems to me like the real "bargain" would entail this.

Though it would be a neat plot twist if it were discovered the Monolith is actually the ultimate evil, despite whatever horrors the Fish Gods are responsible for.

>>82136597
The Brackish Ones take humans and turn them into eggs, which become Hatchlings. That's my interpretation, at least.

That's probably not the singular plan, though. It's just one of them. You have the Handmaiden and Suitor's mutations as well.

>>82136597
>What's the endgame of the Fisher King? To use the oil to turn the human race into deep ones?
Maybe if that's what he thinks is best for humanity. His goals are mainly helping his "children".

> Though it would be a neat plot twist if it were discovered the Monolith is actually the ultimate evil,
That directly conradicts the motiff we've been pushing for this whole time. The monolioth is supposed to be akin to a force of nature. It Can't be Evil because we're not even sure it thinks. It just is. Any worshiping, miracles or depravities it commits aren't intentional because it has no intentions to begin with.

>>82136597
It is the nature of water to pull and sway. Where there is purchase, water flows, filled with Fish.

>>82136597
>endgame of the Fisher King
Mystery

>>82136597
That's a very buddhist take on it.
Existance itself is pain, and because the Monolith "capital E" Exists it is the ultimate evil
Slab Knight Philosophy Hour?

>>82136690
SLAB KNIGHTS ARE PUPPETS OF THE YECHODIAN DEEP STATE
WAK UP YAKEEPLE

>>82136714
>I'm just skeptical about the worship of-
>SILENCE SERVANT OF THE MONSTROUS STONES

>>82136271
AMAZING
But jokes aside it still looks pretty good

>>82135765
This produces two moods
>Depression
>HOT HASYYIAM BELLY-DANCERS IN YOUR AREA, CLICK HERE TO SEE THE DETAILS!!!

>>82136214
That's a mistake, whoops.

>>82136272
Done.

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>>82136825
We are at 100/121 done
We have 3 claimed spots and 1 redraw spot, and 1 to add.

We'll be looking at 16 more spots to fill.

>>82136198
I did, adding him now.

finna get a fancy pistol with a stock of the finest whale tusk ivory

>Wake up
>The Americans have done great work
>It's all in keeping with the setting
>It adds but doesn't clutter
>no dualismfags in sight
Dare I say based?

>>82135890
>>82135939
I'll see how happy they are once the Deacon is revealed to be a blooody heretic

They'll just also become fish worshipper, won't they? Christ almighty...

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>>82137009
The Synanceian Dualist got added to the chart, though.

Anyone saved lore of the northern border troops?
Is there any timeline of events, at least for Lapsaria?

>>82136875
So looking at the Kossoki priest, just making suretthat it is clear that the Kossoki priest follows the state relgion, right? No reason to be purged really. He'd love to touch the Deacon's robes one day.

>>82136448
sharpshooters and many skirmishers used rifles and continued to do so while rank and file used smooth barrels

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Adapted an old lad I did for a different compass for the Master of Whispers.

>>82137042
The idea is he's gonna get purged because he isn't Lapsari. It's race riots, not religious ones.

>>82136614
>You have the Handmaiden and Suitor's mutations as well.
and those of the Durite rebels of course

>>82137040
The only definite we have is the Old Tsar was the one the deal was brokered under. This happened 25-30 years ago and culminated in the Capri Bay Rebellion and The Betrayal. The Old Tsar died not long after and the Tsarina rose to power as a young teenager.

>>82137113
"Died"

>>82137121
>he got taken too, just like the Last Captain
Oh God. No. Anything but that.

>>82137113
I think the idea is the Tsarina rose to power around the age of 10 ish

>>82137219
Ah, so a bit earlier than young teenager. I was thinking around 13-14.

>>82137113
the deal could also have been brokered a bit earlier than that, 35-40 years, to give a bit more time to develop. Although I'm not sure if it is needed.

>>82137255
Maybe we need a different term for pre-Bargain deals and the big B Bargain itself.

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Just throw some numbers on the wall. Does it stick?

>>82136271
Yeah I think this definitely fits the Pangea with large inland dessert idea more.

>>82136271
Lol, Iran map.

>>82137255
>>82137113
I think 30ish years was around what we determined a few threads ago, the Tsarina seems in her early 30's though the use of oil has made her appear more youthful than she actually is

>>82137262
Old Tsar
>died
like, within months of the Bargain. The period after that was a Regency by the Deacon

>>82137295
I don't think it should be by the Deacon. There should be another noble Lapsarian who took that role. It could be added to the count's entry.

>>82137295
I love the fact that the deacon had a regency, really went gham on consoldiating power, but then still chose to abdicate power to the Tsarina in sucha way that she has evidently had a very strong influence herself. Kind of speaks to the Deacon's foresight, he doesn't make her a puppet until it blows up in his face, he makes sure there's a competent ruler.

>>82137262
Tsarina is meant to take power around the age of 10, so how about the Tsarina was born around the year of the bargain or shortly before, the Capri bay rebellion happening around 3 years after, the Veverian campaign happening about 5 years later, and the Old tsar died 2 years later leaving the Tsarina in charge helped greatly by her trusted advisor the Deacon

>>82137312
The general idea was that the Deacon was the one who set in motion the Betrayal at Capri Bay during the time of the Regency iirc

>>82137338
>>82137262
>The Tsar is introduced to the real power of the sea gods by the Deacon
>The Tsarina is born and the Tsar's wife dies in childbirth
>The Bargain is made in order to preserve the Tsarina's life
>the Tsarina miraculously returns to life
>the Tsar has already doomed his country

>>82137360
ehhhh, seems shoehorned

>>82137348
I think he can do that even if he was only highly influential during that time rather than the Regent.

>>82137360
All of this happened like in few weeks?

>>82137348
>>82137312
the deacon set it in motion, but he wasn't necessarily the ruler, he worked mostly in the shadows.

>>82137374
Fair, maybe he just did it because he was a bastard. I am a sucker for melodrama, so I like men who get fucked over by rapid decision making in times of crisis

Also the Tsarina's mother is gone, dying during childbirth is as good a time as any.

>>82137378
>>82137360
>>82137374
Actually, I have a much worse idea. The Tsarina's mother was one of Auntie's Handmaidens as part of the terms of the deal, it's why she is so interested in having people around the Tsarina.

>>82137392
>>82137360
>>82137374
one of the older ideas was that the Deacon was dripping poison in the ear of the tsar, convincing him that the Masovii were planning to unify with the Durites, or otherwise start moving against them, and that the boons brought by the bargain would be the only way to defeat them.
The deacon stoked the paranoia of an already paranoid man that wished the best for his country and felt the sacrafice he was making was for the greater good, when in actuality he was just being manipulated so the Deacon could gain himself more influence with the ear of the young and impressionable Tsarina.

>>82137406
Yeah, the deal was for the mother's life, not her daughter's. And nowhere in the deal was it said the mother would come back human.

>>82137406
you know, i feel like the reason why there are so many fishy boys at court is mainly because they all came from the same line of: Handmaiden is fishy, then: pls draw a chad version of handmaiden, then me doing a female confident one and then realizing they meant a literal chad, so me doing a chad. So these are just riffs on the same person. I don't know if the compass is representative in this case.

>>82137426
the Tsar's untimely death wasn't a coincidence

The tsarina was always meant to have the throne in this time of rapid change

>>82137406
>The Tsarina is half fish
>Auntie Angler is literally the Tsarina's aunt
I like it

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Slightly changed timeline. But I see anons are not really agreed on this question.

>>82137430
The Handmaidens as in the strange fish monsters, not just a Handmaiden.

>>82137360
sorta gay anon

>>82137444
Yeah, I came up with a dumber idea.

>>82137426
I do like this general thing with other countries - even though they aren't actually doing the influencing - influencing the bargain, just by existing in the setting and being connected

>>82137463
and we may never know if there was any plan to begin with or if it was all just a part of the Deacon's plan

>>82137438
I think the deacon would want to get the Tsarina on the throne as early as possible to serve as a legitimizing figurehead, while he advised her.

so maybe she took the throne shortly after the betrayal, as a way to keep the people pacified.

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So are the Angler's Handmaidens canon now?

>>82137438
also I think current time is closer to 35 years after

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>>82137491
>>82137511
So we have almost 28 years to fill.
May be I will add some Uncertain dates in far past to connect other countries.

>>82137535
I think we should consider the Tsarina's birth and the original Bargain being the same event.

>>82137099
>leaves offerings in the mist

this is one of my favourite lines on this compass, low key

>>82137535
How long was the Captain's Rebellion going for? I think we should give it at least a year or two.

>>82137553
>>82137535
I mean in the idea that she was conceived and birthed as part of the Bargain, the Tsar being the father and something from the sea being the mother.

>>82137553
So we need additional timeline for Bargain year.

>>82137564
>Tsarina doesn't have any gifts because she's not a human turning into a fish, she's a fish that turned into a human

>>82137535
well we do know that rapid industrialization in Lapsaria followed the bargain, and with the captain's rebellion crushed the biggest issue to worry about would be the rising unrest in the Durite colonial territory, and the rapid industrialization on the homefront.

and for distant past reference, one of the suggestions was that the Tsarina's great grandfather, Tsar Pietr the Unifier was the one that brought the Venit and Timajor peoples under Lapsarian rule.

>>82137577
Nice ideas, I will wait a little more for another suggestions and remake timeline chart.

>>82137577
>>82137564
The Tsarina's conception being the beginning of the bargain also gives us more time to industrialize. It would be the bargain ~32 years in the past or so.

>>82137577
>Tsar Pietr the Unifier
May be another name, it's too straightforward from history textbook.

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Btw, we have to use somewhere "Institute of pseudo-mechanics" or "textbook of pseudo-mechanics".
Just cool word, wanted to use it somewhere for a long time.

>>82137553
I think one life is a little small for the nature of the bargain.
It seems like the Kingfisher traded vast resources that would give a massive economic and technological boost, as well as potentially gifting Lapsarians esoteric knowledge to put those resources to best use.

The price being either a one time deal of tens of thousands of sacrifices, or that was just the first payment, and they need to keep up a steady supply. Possibly they collect Durite prisoners, which "go missing" in the custody of the Order of Ichthys. The rebels have to meet the sea gods somewhere.
Additionally they required that the Lapsarians eradicate the faith of the monolith, and destroy their objects of worship.

I feel like this was a deal made to try and make the country as a whole more powerful at the cost of innocent lives.

>>82137595
That said we could always just say the Tsarina is closer to 40 and her youthful appearance is a result of her use of Oil.
that would give us an extra decade to work with regardless of a few years difference in birth years.
so she looks in her late 20's, is actually in her early 40's, and was born around the time of the bargain, give or take a few years
so current time is roughly 40 years post bargain

>>82137553
>>82137564
I don't really like that. It's better if she's a real person rather than part fish. There's already enough of that around her in her court. I honestly think that having her born before the bargain is the right way to go, and not only that, but a more interesting one.

>>82137643
>at the cost of innocent lives
Please remember. The Fisher King does all that he does because he loves you. The Bargain is not one of traders, where it is an exchange of equal goods, rather it is that of a parent to a stubborn child. "If you finish all your homework we can go out for ice cream later". It is a reward for, at least in the Fisher King's eyes, doing a good job.

>>82137817
>I don't really like that. It's better if she's a real person rather than part fish. There's already enough of that around her in her court. I honestly think that having her born before the bargain is the right way to go, and not only that, but a more interesting one.
agreed

>>82137643
>I think one life is a little small for the nature of the bargain.
the real lapsarian side to the bargain is the whole of Lapsaria. Lapsaria is given to the OCean, and we can see it transform before our eyes. The Tsar may have thought that he was giving some lives or whatever to pay for it, but that's a category error on his part. The king gives his gifts FREELY. He gives to care for his children, and to have more children to care for. Capri bay wasn't payment, it was the sealing of the deal, a show of good intention.
The Lapsarian half of the bargain may not realize this, but this is what the nature of the Bargain - and any bargain with the king - looks like. A fully selfless act of fishy recuperation.

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Just improved timeline, but still need some events to fill gap before current time.

>>82138006
600-590 I assume you mean Jasentorf Emperor?

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>>82138026
My bad

>>82138045
why does it take so long from bargain to durite unrest? Isnt one the cause of the other?

>>82138179
Tension was growing, I guess.

>>82137438
> 1 year between the bargain and Capri Bay rebellion
But wasn't the defeat of the Rebellion what sealed the Bargain?
Did the sea gods come knocking on the tsar's door a year after they struck their Bargain to remind them to pay?

>>82138302
again, they didnt pay for the bargain, they sealed it. It was not a payment, it was the final sign that they had passed the point of np return. There are no payments for gifts, only shows of gopd faith

>>82138319
>There are no payments for gifts, only shows of gopd faith
True, but the bargain is very explicitly not a Gift. If not due to its name, then because the Brackish Ones "Collected PAYMENT for the Bargain".

>>82138346
>>82138045
Also, any particular reason why the Tsar dies right after the Bargain? I think it makes sense if nothing else than due to the dramatic irony of having the Tsar destroy the ship that was his ambition and pride to have the Tsar die After the Capri Bay Rebellion.

>>82138045
>>82138006
I'm sorry, is the Betrayal not the end event of the Capri Bay Rebellion? The timeframe of those should be a lot closer

Could also throw in the Masovii Tribes Confederating (sometime after the Jasentorf Empire breaks down, but still a while ago- 400 BB ish?), and the Masovii gaining control of Sligaff.(maybe 90 BB - still sorta recent in the grand scheme of things, but a enough that several generations have come and gone since then)

>>82138179
Putting the above aside - there's steps to the thing. First of all, they had to actually start their conquest of Durit, which given that it's been around 1 generation since that happened, was probably during the Deaconcy/Early Tsarina period. Then there's the fact that they had to establish control and actually start, y'know persecuting them for that stuff to start building up after the military defeat. And the industrialization and military organization for all this had to happen beforehand and took time to build for.

>>82138045
And what exactly is "The Betrayal" (Which I think you misspelt)?

If you mean what CCA commented here >>82131256, I interpreted the Betrayal (Mostly due to >>82137113) as something that followed immediately from the reult of the battle in Capri Bay, not a separate event and definitely not a few years apart

>>82138367
>Dies
The funeral was with a closed casket.
There was no body.
He has a better existence now, courtesy of the Fisher King

>>82138382
>they had to actually start their conquest of Durit, which given that it's been around 1 generation since that happened, was probably during the Deaconcy/Early Tsarina period
I think the Durites had been occupied for a while now (40-50 years), but only recently became rebellious due to increased repression, etc.

>>82138407
Fair, though the point still stands that having the Tsar being forced to deal with the Rebellion would be deliciously ironic

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>>82138391
>Which I think you misspelt
Sorry

>>82138428
Any coments on >>82138382 and >>82138391?

>>82138417
I think the Durite occupation is even older than that, it's just that the oppression to this extent started with the bargain

>>82138705
Could definitely be, but Much older than that and it gets too close to the Conquest of the Venit+Timajor. So I think ~60 would be a cutoff point, unless we decide to push the conqueest of the Venit further back in time

>>82137099
I'm probably going to sleep right now, but come tomorrow I'll make either
>Coral Island "Navy" person (woefully unprepared but doesn't even know it yet)
>Mosavii Horse person (need some non-high class people from Mosavii, could also do a Slagaffi -something-)
with actual fluff + picture. Asking to save 2 slots feels like too much, so idk - whichever one people want on the chart. Sunset Islander is probably in the FishFaith quadrant, which the Mosavii Horse guy would be StoneFaith.

>>82137099
Are we going with the Master of Whispers being the guy in charge of the Secret Police that's been proposed? Because that would lend them a certain esoteric/mystical quality that could work quite well.

>>82137099
>>82136272
Here we go:
[4,7] (Or somewhere in tat vicinity, preferably more Stone than the Venity Ferryman)
>The Venitii Artillerist
> Forefathers have always served the Tsar (Second to Auntie)
>Joined for tradition, stayed to shred Landies
>Likes cannons, Loves Ballistae
>The Mask Stays on

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>>82138991
>>82137099
Shit fuck damn, forgot the file

would the head of the DCMA wear military or civilian clothing?

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I've illustrated a prompt from last thread for the Josentorf thread.

>The Enzingarian Commoner
>The Archtypical Hick of Jastendorf
>No one understands a word he says
>Left out of politics
>Happy to be left with his Brews

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>>82139193
cleaned him up

>>82137426
This is the better idea.
>>82137817
Hard agree, stop trying to turn this into some power level everything is the fault of gods.
Let men do the mistakes.

>>82139193
>>82139222
It seems Jasentorf is where all the happy lads come from.

>>82137817
>It is a reward for, at least in the Fisher King's eyes, doing a good job.
Praise Fish Daddy.

>>82139299
>Let men do the mistakes.
I had a though regardin this idea a while ago. The thought being, the Fisher King never outright told people to destroy the Slabs or hunt the Monolith worshippers, he just cautioned them about the dangers of the Monolith.
But the Deacon interpreted it(or had it interpreted to him) as "kill all stone worshipers", and started a whole extermination campaign against them, leading to the Durite rebellion, tense relations with their neighbors, etc etc.
So once again, not the fault of the god, just people fucking up and acting out of fear of the unknown

>>82138428
Pyotr and the Tsardom's unification really needs to be older honestly.
Knock it back a couple centuries and tie it together.

>>82139380
>I had a though regardin this idea a while ago. The thought being, the Fisher King never outright told people to destroy the Slabs or hunt the Monolith worshippers, he just cautioned them about the dangers of the Monolith.
This idea that there is not really a mandate to supress the Durites has been floated before and I'm sympathetic to it. But it should definitely not just be "caution them about the dangers of the Monolith" and more "encouraged them to reduce stone worship so he can come in and give nice gifts". It should be mistaking a soft ask for a condition, not a completely different kind of statement for an imperative.

>>82139418
>encouraged them to reduce stone worship so he can come in and give nice gifts
That is a much better idea.
I had some gripes with the idea of the Fisher King demanding stone worship to end as it would just make him seem petty, but the idea that he expressed he wanted to have more children to gift, and people took that too far, is a good interpretation

>>82139442
>'Bring me more folk, and I reward you better'
>The Deacon looks around
>Notes the Durites and their stone
>"So what if..."

>>82139531
I like that idea, makes both the fisher king more amoral and open to interpretation but makes the deacon more of a bastard and puts the persecution of the stone worshippers in a more human lens. Human cruelty spurred on by ambivalent supernatural forces is very on brand for this setting.

>>82139681
The Fisher King takes away pain.
The Monolith is removed from it as stone is.
It's the Lapsarians who are looking at the Durites like a bunch of Tsarists looking at the Circassians.

>>82139681
>akes both the fisher king more amoral and open to interpretation but makes the deacon more of a bastard
This. Making the "gods" have a less well defined morality and making most tragedies be the result of human intentions seems very appropriate forwhat we've been going for.

>>82138428
Change the 600-590 to 720-590 and just chaos in empire led to federalization, because it was a dark age and with multiple reasons for it.

>>82138367
I imagine he doesn't actually die in the traditional sense.

The reason the Deacon convinced him to do the Bargain instead of making a deal of his own was because he knew enough to know the brakish ones are gonna collect eventually.

He wanted the old Tsar out of the way leaving him in a position of immense political power at a time when Lapsaria would be extremely powerful due to the boon.

The old Tsar is serving the Fisher King in his own way now.

>>82139951
Oh yeah, I agree with that. My main thing is less the "dying" part (I used that language as that is whjat's said in teh timeline) and more the timing of him getting dissapeared.
I think he should disapear after the rebelliion, not bofore it.

>>82139991
With the rebellion happening after he died, it meant that the Deacon could have sealed the bargain without opposition.
Because the capri bay rebellion meant that it was the point of no return for Lapsaria.
What I don't get is what the hell is the betrayal, wasn't it the rebellion?

>>82140070
>With the rebellion happening after he died, it meant that the Deacon could have sealed the bargain without opposition.
Fair, though I'm still fond of the idea of the sacrifice in Capri Bay being as much of the tsar's ambitions, as he sacrifices his prize ship, as of human lives

> What I don't get is what the hell is the betrayal, wasn't it the rebellion?
We aren't really sure. CCA threw that idea up here >>82131256, but most people interpreted it as something that happened immediately after the Battle at Capri Bay, not several years Later.
Timeline anon still hasn't responded to inquiries about it Not clear if he's asleep, if he just mised it, or if he's purposely ignoring it

>>82139385
>>82138428
we could make it 4 reigning tsar's back and have each rule for about 60 years, up until the old Tsar's was cut short at only about 30-40.

Which would put the unification about 150-200 years before the Bargain.

Also the Kossoki would have split from the Durites around 500 years ago

the Durites would have discovered the monolith a few millennia ago, and slowly started adopting a more agrarian culture, though by the time of the Lapsarian invasion into Duritas(I like that name but I don't know if it's the actual name for the country) only about 1/3 of the Durite population were sedentary.

I think the Durite invasion was shortly before the Bargain, about 5-10 years, with the Durites enduring it until the bargain when the Lapsarians began their crusade against monolith worship. Conditions in Duritas quickly deteriorated, and more and more Durites joined up with Durite insurgent forces, which included the remains of their military, and others joined the more radical rebel groups.

>>82140125
If the Durite lands are Durita, than the language should be Durit.

>>82140113
>>82140070
Yeah I think it was whatever caused the current condition of Capri bay, which was implied to have also ended the captain's rebellion.

>>82140125
>have each rule for about 60 years
That doesn't really work very well.
A Tsar has assumes the throne at 20 and has a kid at 20. He dies after ruling for 60 years. By this point his kid is already 20 himself.
So unless the tsars are having kids REALLY late (Like, at their 60s), you need to have shorter rules.

>>82140159
>By this point his kid is already 20 himself.
60. I meant to say the kid is already 60 himself.

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With all that talk about the old Tsar I thought I'd draw him.

>>82140150
So how about
1 rebellion
2 betrayal
4 rapid industrialization
5 air fleet
7 ververia
9 tasrina crowned
>>82140113
He's probably asleep.

>>82140125
Lapsaria and Duritas strike me as a nation that formed out of several principalities and one that was only unified under Lapsarian rule.
I feel like the first Durits under the foor would be those immediately on the far shore of the Nemit, and like Ireland it wasn't an all at once deal.
I also feel like the agrarianism should be a more recent development. To an 'outer' Durit you were always a farmer and have no recollection of a time when your people lived outside the Tsardom. However on the fringes that could be a more recent development and the Demi-nomadic presence never fully went away. Your dad talks about when the Kossoki rolled up and planted the flag, and your cousins all drive goats in the badland.

It's also better if we account for contentions in succession. But that is me.

>>82140176
>Some people say its the Tsar
>A fucking fish
Leave it up in the sair, and make it clear the old Tsar might as well be dead regardless.

>>82140176
Kek
> Royal Axolotl
> Extremelly rare specimen
> One of the most prized possessions of Synanceian Professor
> Seems oddly inteligent and aware
> "Why does it have a crown shaped mark on its head?"

>>82140190
Capri Bay happened after industrialization had already occured at least to some extent

>>82140176
I would pet the old tsar.

>>82140159
could be that their ascendency is age dependent, so regency skips a generation or two and the grand child of the current Tsar Ascends the throne around the age of 20.

or just chuck in a couple 10-20 year reigns in between

>>82140211
Correct. The Our Lady in Grey isn't something you're gonna Mao your way up to.

>>82140190
>So how about
>1 rebellion
>2 betrayal
That could work, though the main impression was the betrayal being almost immediate. Maybe it wasn;t something that happened overnight, so the 1year time difference marks the time it took people to realize the region was becoming uninhabitable?
Also >>82140211

>>82140211
Rapid industrialization, not industrialization itself.
Which means after the betrayal and the sealing of the bargain, things became intense, probably more whale started showing up in a year than had been seen before in a century.

>>82140233
>The Capri Bay Die-Hard
>Refuses to leave his ancestral home
>Scares off looters with weapons taken from dead looters
>Likes the neighborhood better this way
>"Sure is spooky out there."

>>82140231
I was thinking the industrializatipn started back in 8 bb, since they were planning airship and all.
So the tsar pulled all the industries and made them start pumping out military grade things for his big project.

>>82140240
With the Lady in Gray, rapid industrialization kind of already had to have occured. I feel like the big problem is having Capri Bay so close to the Bargain. I get the "sealed the bargain" bit, but couldn't it have happened on credit? It could also be a metaphor, that they were the last hold-outs before all the tsardom was firmly working in the interests of the king

>>82140192
>I also feel like the agrarianism should be a more recent development
Oh yeah. I thought it was common grounds that the chnage in way of life of Durites was one of the reasons behind the rebelion. The Lapsarians were pushing them from nomadic to agrarian lifestyles, and not all of them were fine with that. So even more recent than you amke seem, in fact, something of the last 40-50 years (Depending on how far back the Durite colonization began)

>>82140240
Fair point.

>>82140221
This is interesting. The ascendency being age dependent woul indirectly encouage Tsars to have children late, as to not imotivate potential power struggles within the family, as well as introduce interesting dynamics in a way that isn't just copying something from the real world (as far as I know, at least)

>>82140277
I didn't do the timeline, I'm working with what the anon made.
If it's better to just change the timeline all together, than let's do it.