>>82143239
>How large is Durite territory?
well seeing as they're based vaguely on the mongols, probably fairly large

>>82143239
I think there's a spelling error in tthe Venitii Artillerist
> Forefatheers have always served the Tsar, second ONLY to Auntie

>How large is Durite territory?
Considering they're nomadic, as far as they can roam, since borders are a thing for sedentary people. Lapsarian Occupied Durit though, I'd say is pretty big, ranging from 1/3 to 2/3 Lapsaria excluding these Domains. So not Bigger than them, but still a major aquisition of land.

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>The Goguryeo Emissary
>Really wishes the god-king hadn't sent him to this nightmare country
>No one believes Goguryeo is a real place
>Everyone thinks he's a durit, even though he can barely speak it
>Probably going to die in this Jem-forsaken country

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>>82144101
>The Kyugoryo Envoy
>Doesn't know why the god-king sent her to this nightmare country
>These savages don't even believe Kyugoryo is a real place
>Often confused with a shamanesse
>Misses the Forbidden Palace's banquets

>>82144101
>>82144111
Choose your favorite.
I prefer the female one just because I put more effort into it.

>>82144135
I prefer the female as well, will add her with the poet.

>>82144101
The hat is suposed to be see through by the way, so the lines aren't a mistake.
Apparently is a traditional korean hat. If it's too weird I can edit it out though.

>>82144111
>>82144135
Prefer the Female version, mostly because she captures the contempt of the text better than the wojak.

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>>82144154
In that case
The Kyugoryo peasant
>Will worship anything
>Has never seen his god-king
>Believes his country is the best in the world

>>82144262
when your wojak can be an emissary and a peasant at the same time, that's not a good sign

>>82144262
>>82144286
Agreed. Maybe:
The Kyugoryo Official
>Will worship anything he's told to worship
>Has never seen his god-king
>Believes his country is the best in the world
>Has never left the capital

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>>82144286
Eh, by the time I found male korean clothes I had decided to make the envoy female, but I also had already done him.
I like to things the Kyugoryo is in decline for some time, but it just refuses to just fall over and die
>>82144262
Anyway, here's him smiling, maybe add a
>Hasn't starved since last harvest, things are looking up

>>82144330
>>Has never left the capital
Hmm, I think most wojaks in this chart are meant to be people either in Lapsaria or that directly affect Lapsaria. A regular official might not be relevant to the current sittuation

>>82144344
Male korean noble clothes
>>82144330
Although that works too
>>82144353
He doesn't need to be added, just not forgotten

>>82144372
>He doesn't need to be added, just not forgotten
Fair. I'll add him to the Docs then, in the Kyugoryo section.

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>>82144353
True.
I just thought the hat looked very official. My limited experience with ancient Korean peasants is they couldn't afford hats.

>>82144386
Best day in the life of that peasant/official.
He will go home and eat leftover rice to celebrate.

>>82144413
Wikipedia says that only nobles were aloud to wear hat before the 19th century.
So he may be a official after all.

>>82144111
Is the spot in [6,9] the one reserved for her?

>>82144479
Yes, Kyugoryo is the land of a thousand and one gods for no reason.

>>82144461
honestly, the real shame is how he's just a korean and you even consult the wikipedia page on korea to figure out if he's allowed to wear the hat. Kinda dumb to just put Korea into the setting and they dress exactly like Koreans and have KOrean culture and their country is named Korea.

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The Steppe Bronco
>EEEEhhhhhHh
>*Rolls around in grass*
>SNORT
>NHEEH-NHEEH-NHEEH
>The supreme armament of days not long past

Semi-serious submission, on the Neutral-Stone axis

>>82144499
Don't be so mean to mister Sanderson.

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Small update of timeline.
Maybe tomorrow will try to improvise chart for northern regiment.

>>82144499
>just put Korea into the setting
>put Finns also
>Finnish-Korean hyper war
when?

>>82144111
>>82144670
>>82143274
Adding these, then returning to map stuff. I am nearing the end of my work day so I can start not working.

>>82145010
Between 103BB and 8BB are there no major happenings? Wasn;t tthe capiytal moved aroun din this mid-time? We could/should add it to the timeline, if nothing else to fill up a rather major gap in recent history

>>82133921 the bad flag

>the Free Divers

> No tech just SEA OIL AND SALT
> Must go Deeper
>We are all equal in the depths
> the deeper we are the deeper our minds are

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We are at 110/121.

>>82145568
I think the >The Kyugoryo Envoy is meant to be more Faith aligned than anything else. In theory, the Kyugoryo worship all gods.
What';s the claimed spot in [6,9] for? Because she'd fit well there

>>82145598
I'm honestly not sure, someone said to mark it and I don't remember what they wanted.

>>82145619
It was for the Emissary >>82133253

>>82145635
>>82145619
Oh, awesome. Thanks.

>>82145643
Could you save [3,3]? Im working on The Capri Bay Die-Hard

So before my Internet got shat out. I had some ideas to differentiate Goguryeo...

>The Goryu hat is marked with stone bands to display social caste, lower castes aren't even allowed to have a hat. This hat is shaped around the top, and is closer to a Fez to allow easy inspection.
> The brow, and mustache share this trait, with specific cuts being styled for clans. Only members of the royal household are allowed to grow beards as that is where the royal cord rests.
> Clothes are traditionally black, but are generally laced with metals, typically bronze which is abundant on Goguryeo
> Like the Durits they have naturally grey skin, but will often utilize face paints for sharper colours.
> Particularly extreme members of society fuse crafted stone parts to themselves, particularly on the teeth and cheekbones, making them resemble 'tusked demons' according to Masovii rumours.
> Many beasts of burden in Goguryeo are insects, and armour is as often made of chitin as metals, especially among the lower classes.
> The Mantis and the Stag Beetle are the patron Animals of Goguryeo, with the first dynasty believed to be a union from the Stag Emperor and the Mantis Queen.
> Motifs of bother creatures are common place in fashion, and the claw-blade and horn-hammer are the traditional weapons of the nobility, while spears are omnipresent elsewhere in society.

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>>82145672
done

>>82145834
I can't believe the chart has gotten this big. It started at 6x6.

>>82144499
Good thing I changed the name to mix with Ryukyu, the female envoy is dressed like an tang chinese noble, the title I gave to the land is the one of shinto religion and the rulung dinasty is based on the mongol Yuan dynasty
Therefore making them all of the big eastern asian countries together, isn't it?

>>82145988
Eh.
Not really? We've just done the "East Orient one big place thing."

Try and describe Leviathan in 2 sentences. I need to build a shitpost and need help.

>>82146077
Horrible Lovecraftian Imperialism

>>82146016
>Big
I see you fell for the God-King's biggest meme.

>>82146077

local Russian man turns into fish

>>82146077
>"So then someone sold us out to some frog looking mother fuckers and that's why we're shooting a bunch of stony ass quartz humpers from the steam boat."
>"That's done nothing to explain why you need to smoke those Corals Ivan."

>>82146115
More like local russian lesbian.

>>82146077
Russians enjoy fish.

>>82146016
Ah, I see.
So what nations do you enjoy? Please explain them to me, and only superficially.

>>82146131
She is still not a full fish.
Her dad on the other hand...

>>82146077
Decide whether your character should be turned into a fish, a rock, or a ghost. Get addicted to coral and disembowled by rebels instead.

>>82145834
>the northern & southern border soldiers
lmao

>>82146140
Personally I feel the Yakuts might be a better match, and their Jurchen cousins. There's also something to be said of the namesake itself, which stood out from other Korean states for being outward.
>We are the only true people
>However the gods created others to supply us with goods and tobacco

>>82146077
Eastern Europe but instead of Vodka we have magic fish oil. And they really hate the monolith from 2001: A Space opera.

>>82146165
I like how they're diametrically opposed. It adds to the kek factor

>>82146077
"But you are killing your followers!" said the Fisher King
"Lol" said the Monolith "lmao"

>>82146170
Did they like yogurt and give people diarrhea?

I am returning to map work and will be posting as I go. I've been day drinking while on the clock all day so my posting will be slow or erratic. I apologize in advance.

>>82146265
Don't stress, boss.

>>82146265
> spoiler
Do you want a hug?

>>82146280
>>82146274
No I'm day drinking because I didn't have a lot of work today and had nice beer.

>>82146301
Whew, good to hear. And as >>82146274 says, don't stress

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Ended up doing a minimal Delvers sketch. Couldn't get it to work in grey, but let me now what you think.

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>>82146340
And the pupil free variant.

>>82146340
Try add in some really faint outlines of bodies I say.

>>82146355
Goddamn I knew I was forgetting something.
I was the anon who volunteered to make the Delver redesign 2-4 threads ago, but you did it better than I could!
Something you could try is having small purple-ish growths in he shadows, like the ones the Singer In Stone has? It coiuld look pretty nice

>>82146379
>>82146386
This two suggestions are good.

>>82146379
>>82146386
I actually really like the thought of keeping them in shadow, although some faint gem growths do add definition while leaving things up to the imagination.

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>the Free Divers

> No tech just SEA OIL AND SALT
> Must go Deeper
>We are all equal in the depths
> the deeper we are the deeper our minds are

could i get this spot ?

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>>82146386
Like so?

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>>82146519
Non-Pupe Variant as well.

>>82146534
I think non-pupil variant is better

>>82146620
It does say more; 'Unknowable ancient' than 'opened the wrong door to a dark room at wank-con.'

>>82146497
Sure, I'll need a redraw on it from current though.

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Here we go again.

>>82146534
Looks good!

>>82146534
Maybe some really faint outlines, but only close to the gems?

>>82146661
I like this. Only possible problemm I coulkd see is the position of Masovii, since it's meant to be in about tthe same climate as Lapsaria,m but people want it to be somehow between Lpasaria an the center of the Vast

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>>82146727
I can't really see them as managing that, if it's between Lapsari and the main Vast it has to be near the equator.

Red: Lapsari
Green: Durite Steppe
Blue: Masovii
Purple: Sligaffi Salt Pan
Grey: Vast
Yellow: Jesentrof
Light Blue: Kyugoryo

This map makes the "Northern" border more western than northern. The actual north border is just on useless Tundra.

>>82146787
Huh. Mind if I throw my hat in the ring for the Map CCA?

>>82146787
>Light Blue: Kyugoryo
>There is no light blue
Holy shit the Lapsarians were right.

>>82146787
What's to the west and north of Lapsaria then? The Northern Front Soldier needs to fight somebody.

>>82146787
>The actual north border is just on useless Tundra.
Even then, they'd need to police the disparate settlements and suppress smuggling. It's a mostly unpeopled wasteland, but peopled enough to need a garrison.

>>82146855
They fight aemiid and yak that get too drunk.
Lapsaria prays that they never rebel like the durites are.

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>>82146727
>>82146661
Maybe something like this, if you move the mountains a bit?
I honestly don't know if the Masovii should have much of a coastline for them, given they have like, no ships to speak of

>>82146787
the salt pans are in Masovii, not Sligaff, as a note.

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>>82146835
Sure, this is just get people to agree to the placement of the nations though, not for actual for show maps.

>>82146841
Whoops.

>>82146855
>>82146856
I need people to figure out the western border that the "northern" front is probably on (since it is north of the southern Durit front.

>>82146885
The main issue is someone has to be living on the coast, and with a continent this massive Masovii would be desert in this.

>>82146913
Are the Vastian Wastes big enough?

>>82146934
>>82146913
Actually that green could be Jesentrof if we want it to be clower to Lapsari.

>>82146865
Kek
>>82146885
Yeah, ships/coast doesn't fit with their interior/steppe empire type vibe.

Ok ok, take a look at this. We need someone to sit between Masovii and the sea (and a reason masovii hasn't themselves reached towards the sea).

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>>82147028
forgot the image

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>>82147028
>>82147034
Changed the coastline slightly, think this might work. Masovii has a tiny amount of coastline.

>>82147028
Mountains, or maybe a very dense jungle? Either one is hard to invade and not worth doing so.

>>82146954
I don't know, pulling Jesentorf further away from the vast makes less sense for a majority stone nation.
So potentially...
>Expand Lapsaria down the coast
>Push the Durit Steppe inland
>Jesen takes up a sizable amount of space further to the south while still touching the vast

https://voca.ro/1av5lCtCobLj

>>82147075
I second all of these

>>82146913
What are the yellow parts on the bottom right? Are those just more mountains like the orange?

>>82147058
I like that, though maybe make some sort of passage between Sligaff and Masovii so they touch somewhere without the mountains in the way.

As for filler nations, we need a spot for
>Ververia - which I was thinking could be the Dark Green if we want to leave Jesentrof to the south,
and
>Hasyym - Which can also take up space on the southern Coastline if we need it

>>82147117
Yellow is Inactive mountains (smaller) orange is active mountains. The Vast Wastes are basically all desert.

>>82147079
Kek
Luv me anons

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If we ever add some tribals on the tundra for the northern front to fight, I say we base their armor on the Tlingit.
Having a bunch of raider dressed as totems fits the setting too well.

>>82147146
Maybe stick that in the doc so we don't forget

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Ok, let's try this on. The Durit Steppe is basically a border zone between Masovii and Lapsari.

>>82147184
This makes going from the east to west coast horrendous because over the north and south you have to past the Vast where there likely aren't many functional ports. Plus the northern/southern coast is probably iced over a good portion of the year.

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>>82147117
>>Ververia - which I was thinking could be the Dark Green if we want to leave Jesentrof to the south,
I like this. Push Jasentorf towards the empty patch of landwest of the wastes (It's a nation with sizable Stone worship, they should be nearer to the Vast), and gives us a good place to start thinking of Ververia

>>82147184
I was thinking something along these lines. The Hassym being an near puppet state to Lapsaria would place them somewhat next to them, and I quite like the way the Sligaffi fit in that basin

>>82146907
I don't think tthat's been fully settled. At least in the docs it's ambiguous/allows for both.

>>82147203
This would make Jesentrof essentially tropical, which might be a problem. I don't really get 'full of jungles' vibe from them. I think Sligaffi being on the equator makes sense, but I'll move Hasyym. We should put someone in its place.

>>82147234
>>82147203
And this would make Hassym tundra, and for oiled up wrestlers that doesn't fit, gonna shuffle things.

>>82146913
Do the kyoguro envoys have to travel through the vast wasteland or did the circumnavigate the continent by ship? And if so by the north east which would be shorter but most likely partially frozen or full of icebergs or by the south east which would be like three or four times farther?

I like Jesentrof being on Lapsari's border.

>>82147234
>his would make Jesentrof essentially tropical, which might be a problem
Ttehre definitely is some variation opne for jasentorf regarding Climate, as there are several separate cultures.
Also I think them being all tthe way down south would make them too distant from Lapsaria to have the effect/impact they currently ahve in lore.

>>82147252
maybe just move them further south down the mountain chain they are already in? To the right of the Durite Steppes

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>>82147203
How about this?
Would need to move some mountains around though.

>>82147283
This might work really well!

>>82147301
now Jasentrof is even less relevant.

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>>82147301
>tfw uploaded the same image

>>82147312
I uploaded the wrong image, meant >>82147320

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May I make a suggestion of general locations?

>>82147320
Still the same problem though.

>>82147334
Not shown are the other small nations, but this is everything relevant so far.
Yogurt-Empire isn't currently relevant so I'll not worry about it. We gotta focus in on things.

>>82147334
This is good.

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>>82147301
I still think jasentorf is really far away, considering it sends mercs and dignitaries to/near Lapsaria

>>82147334
I like this, thougjh It'd probably involve some more shuffling around, and a change in the scope of the map.
To apeace the anons who want Masovii between Lapsaria and the Vast, maybe add a mountainragge like pic?

>>82147334
Gonna go off of this, give me a bit.

>>82147387
We can have a general continental frame, but this is like framing a map of the Ukraine on Eurasia. It's gonna feel wonky when we just have the Ukraine, Romania and Cumania
We gotta zoom in on the black sea mang.

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>>82147334
>>82147283
Tried to change some things.
It may help CCA

>>82147390
Thanks!. i think this represents maybe 1/4 of a world map, so since I know you want to build tthe wjole world as a means to get the climates right, make this just the northwestern bit of a whole continent

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>>82147431
>>82147387
>>82147390
I kept Hasyym on the other side and more south. I gave masovii and Lapsari a border like you has, and brought the thousand states up.

>>82147445
This is pretty kino. I am OK with this.
Shove the Sunset Islands somewhere west of Jesentrof and I think we've got it.

>>82147445
Best one so far, though I'd give that Masovii chunk of coast to Freeskalön. Make it the weird little sea-cow state divide the big three.

>>82147464
Just remember to make the Sunset Islands MULTIPLE islands instead of just one or two. It should be sort of like Hawaii. The larger ones are jungle no-man's-land, and the smaller islands are populated.

>>82147480
>>82147464
I plan on zooming in on Lapsari for map 1, so we won't have to worry about that.

>>82147445
I think this is really good. Only change I'd make would be push tthe whole continent up one bit, so we have more of jesentorn in non-tropical regions north of the equator

>>82143239
I do hope all this geography debate continues to be constructive, the maps look better and better with each iteration but while that debate rages on I’d like to get some discussion going about one of the thread topics:

>Laprasi city life

I think we’ve all generally agreed the general vibe we’re going for is a mix of British early industrialism and German/HRE imperialism.

With these assumptions in mind then can we assume most every man woman and child work to at least some degree in the cities. Even the woman peasants who raise their children have side gigs like cloth making or other hand made goods.

Children are of course being abused left and right in the factories being gophers and fixing factory machinery in cramped spaces a grown man can’t reach.

Education is a joke for the peasant families, only noble children in fancy boarding schools get to really know much of the world, and of course through the lens of Noble and Deacon approved material.

>>82147495
maybe remove that limp penis from Masovii and give it to Jasentorf instead, and than remove a bit of their southern lands?

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>>82147542
kek, despite tthe description, the idea is solid. Then the upper pportion of Jasentorf can be Main Jasentor, the tropical parts can be Aleria, and the mountains can be the Mountains Region

>>82147445
I really like this map, I think this is close to what we can all agree on without making major compromises. The small Masovi coastal region should have a big port city that has exchanged hands numerous times in masovis struggle to maintain a warm water port.

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>>82147619
>>82147542
>>82147495
One more shift, how we looking?

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>>82147702
And this is how I'm centering the atlas map that I'll be starting on. The coastlines will change slightly as I increase the level of detail and increase the image size.

I'll be back in a bit for us to start filling in things.

>>82147735
I's put Freeskal and the Sallow state on the map, but if this is just broadstrokes then I've no issues.

>>82147768
Are these in the doc?

>>82147702
This is looking really great!

>>82147768
Who and who?

>>82147784
Nope. But I'll reach back to the old thread for them.

>Principality of Freeskalön
>Nightmarish little shithole nestled on the border between [Jasentorf and Lapsaria], nominally granted independence eight centuries prior and neither the Tsardom, nor the States want to deal with them
>95% of the country is swamp with only a single central plateau useful for non-kelp farming. Mostly occupied by long out-dated fortifications
>While the 'Order of the Great Cow' is technically the only religious hierarchy and seems Fish, it isn't and seems to be completely neutral in comparison to the Lapsarian and Jasntorf Coastals
>The 'Great Cow' of Freeskalön is the oldest of the Sea-Cows, strange breathing creatures that are kept by the Freeskals like herd animals, and the Great Cow is now so large the Order's Elders live on its back
>While most Sea Cows are herbivores, the Freeskals feed the Great Cow human sacrifices
>Freeskals when trading are agreeable people and export Sea-Cow Milk, Willow-Furniture and nominal amounts of 'sea-stone' to their neighbors, which is actually jsut a hardened kelp chunk
>When not trading, the Freeskals are introverted, and if threatened are terrors when the swamp begins speaking Freeskal

>>82147813
>Sallow State of Sudawas
>The Minor principality locked on a nebulous border between [Masovii Lands and the Lapsarian Frontier,] dominated by a forest of the 'Red Titans'
>Red Titans are enormous Sequoia like trees that while they seem to be made of stone grow like wood, and while the Sudawii aren't religious they're ferociously protective of the forest and their homeland
>Sudawii people are moss farmers, living off of pigs, chickens, and moss that grows one the sides of the Titans, the moss giving their skin an odd dark red colour that fades without the moss
>The Sallow State is governed by a council of elders, who are notorious for being easy to bribe in minor matters, allowing frontiersmen to freely pass through Sudawas and establish several minor townships
>Dead Sudawii are ground into powder and buried outside the forest, and eventually these graveyards will sprout new Red Titans

>>82147828
I'll also nab up the other suggested nations.

>The Kingdom of Guthall
>An distant Nation far from Lapsaria, in ancient days the Guths raided and settled on Lapsarian shores, and was the center of a vast Empire
>This Empire was devoted to the 'Old Olm', a nebulous creature that lived under the island of Guthall and called for immense tribute the Guths struggled to supply
>At some point this empire collapsed when the Olm vanished, and Guthall shrank away, their settlers eventually integrating into their new homelands
>Recently, rumours have arrived that a 'Singing Olm' now inhabits the darkness of Guthall, a stranger creature than the Old Olm that makes those historically minded nervous
>Guthall has long supplied sail-ships of great size and strength to the world, but recently the introduction of Lapsarian Ironclads have devastated their industries
>Olm Hounds are common pets on Guthall, though they are rarely ever seen off-island

>The Ashen Order
>Religious Order of crazed Yothenstein monks who moved onto an actively growing volcano island
>Generally insular, because no one wants to meet a bunch of monks snorting volcanic ash and enduring the magma flows
>Have been sending out perfect obsidian bricks recently, maybe they're doing something productive?
>The Stone Wails Here
>The Nubile Stone is Perfection Made Manifest
>What Works Will Be

>>82147813
>>82147828
I like both of these, they're interesting enough to go onto the chart. They just need something drawn for them.

>>82147846
>The Sunken Land Khalat
>[Located on the opposite side of Jasentorf to Lapsaria], Khalat was once a peninsula on which a powerful kingdom grew and thrived
>This was back in the iron age, when Khalat and Jasentorf were the worst of rivals, and the Kings of Khalat recieved tribute from all places their boats reached
>Except that place with the creepy worm thing
>For thirty Kings of the Pink-Salt lineage, the Khalats held what might have been the greatest strength in all the World
>No one knows why, but after the death of the thirtieth King, the sea swallowed up all of Khalat, and the stone idols of the Kingdom watched
>In these days, several princes claim the wet isles as their own, but no one really controls it, aside the remaining natives
>The Khalati sing of pale salt and a sacrifice abandoned, and wait for when the day when the waters forgive them and allow them to reclaim their strength

>The Mountain of Birk
>Why is this mountain so big?
>Why are there so many esoteric orders and lakes and lakes on this mountain?
>Jesus that's a lot of lakes.
>The Birkers just sort of got used to Stone Monks and Hooks murdering each other on the Slops
>This Algae isn't gonna farm itself after all
>The Birkers have formed a weird anarchist collective situation, and no one is around to stop them
>That guy who just showed up with mining equipment might change that

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>>82147735
Looking good.
just a few suggestions, this time they aren't really necessary.
Also what are those yellow spot?

>>82147919
lol, feels like Masovii is gonna have a Danzig situation one of these days.

>>82147919
>Danzig
Inactive (shorter) mountain ranged.

>>82147940
>>82147954
Lmao, I just wanted to give Jasentorf a bit more mountain because the docs said they had them.

>>82147954
>>82147982
Ah, sorry, I was just answering what the yellow was. It makes sense to give them more mountains. I'll change it when we get back to big map time.

>>82147702
Only comment I have is maybe make Ververia smaller (Especially after they fought against Lapsaria)
But that's mostly a nitpick, all aeelse is pretty good!

>>82147919
>desert takes up 60% of the continent

>>82148099
I mean, yeah. If you have one supersized continent with plenty of mountains that ends up happening

>>82148099
It's also part of the themeing, the Vast represent's the larger then life solid nature of stone and the Monolith. So it feels appropriate that a large chunk of it is dominated by lifeless sand and rock.

/lvtn/ board soon

>>82148275
Leviathan general.
Would be better than most of the trash in this board.

>>82148323
>>82148275
Collective autism can produce an RPG. All it needs is enough pushing.

I'll do my best lads to keep it going.

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>>82147528
Have we established what the Laprasian's are building with all this industrialization? To my knowledge it's Weapons, Airships, ironside ships, horseless carriages, and diving equipment so far. Surely there's general goods being made as well like textiles, tools, cement (which may or may not be infused with dust), new types of farm equipment, paper making which of course has lead the invention of newspapers and a demand for literacy education, and of course glass production, can't phase out those Yechod Glassblowers without that.

There was a question of what the northern border guards were doing on such a desolate frontier, and I think a good answer might be guarding prisoners (heretics, union agitators, Durite rebels) in labor camps up there. The assignment is an unpleasant one, but represents that the church and state trust the officers a lot to give them such autonomy.

>>82148594
Air Pirates are probably another problem. The mountains are probably infested with them and delvers.

>>82147702
still need the Sunset Isles

>>82148421
They're also probably converting their aquaculture and logging industries into fine goods industries. Mass produced furniture and seaweed textiles, that sort of thing.

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memory lane

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Ok, so I've done the initial coastline, will be doing the rest of the elevation map from here.

>>82148717
They are there, it's just that each individual island is so small you can't see the archipelago.

>>82148717
I'll add it when we zoom back out.

>>82148777
I can already see the mouths of each of the four rivers.

>>82148784
just cause they're small doesn't mean you can't represent their general location and region of influence

>>82148812
It was a joke anon, CCA forgot it.

>>82148834
everyone forgets them, the poor sweet things ;-;

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>>82148594
Should we come up with some ice monsters for the Suuri tundra? Would Ice monsters be a weird fusion of both Fish and Rock? Ice is a mineral after all. I'm imagine a regi ice like creature with menhir runes for a face, perhaps carved by Delvers as a means of fighting against the brackish ones since ice can be easily remade and won't sink to the bottom where it can be ambushed. Though that would imply there is active warfare between the delvers and the brackish but I think the idea is both sides of fish and rock mostly ignore eachother, it's humans that are drawing these things into conflict. So perhaps some mad carver monks that smoked to much coral moved up there after being banned from the country and the order.

>>82148874
then again, the ice would be made of sea water

>>82148874
We might be full up on monsters. Ice Nomads I like, ice golems I don't.

>>82148874
I agree with CCA. Maybe we use >>82147146's idea for styling the tundra people.
Hell, if they're totemistic, maybe their worship is a far off variation of the Menhirs.

>>82148916
how about polar bears, and funky renaissance art style killer whales?

>>82148874
There is Fish and there is Stone.
Ice golems? No.
Giant Starfish that hunt things through the ice?
Yes.

>>82148959
I like that.

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>>82148874
>>82148964
Predatory Antarctic worms are terrifying.

>>82148874
I think it's also important to remember that the more exotic and bizarre things we add it kinda takes away from the supernatural feeling weird and out of place

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>>82148977

>>82148874
I was thinking of some weird trees whose bark is incredibly strong, and can be "shaved" and retain their weird properties if a shaman does it, so the tribals have wodden armour, but are incredibly well armored.

Also wendigos, but instead of monsters, it's just cannibal mutants.

>>82148966
imagine you're a northern guardsman walking out on an ice sheet, and the world around you reverberates with the deep rumbling call of a whale under the ice.

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>>82148731
True I forgot they have seaweed farms, besides woven seaweed fiber textiles they could also use the seaweed for animal feed, fertilizer, and herbal medicine.

For a factory usage you can actually use seaweed for cosmetic products. Algotherapy is the use of a seaweed bath or massage scrub for the purposes of restoration of skin and beauty. With the fisher king's abilities such seaweed scrubs could actually work in major ways, perhaps even reversing aged skin. Obviously such cosmetic's would be all the rage among laprasian noble woman and beyond.

Another unknown gift of the fisher king whose long term effects can only be guessed at.

>>82148977
>>82148980
OH MIGHTY SAII-HELVETA
KEEPER OF THE NORTH

BLESS THE ICE AND THE WATER BENEATH
BLESS THE COMING AND THE GOING OF HIM
MAY HIS PASSAGE CHILL THE WORLD!

>>82148988
Pure cannibals. There is truth in stone. There is marrow in bone.

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[Last known photo of 12th Northern Horse Guard night patrol]

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>>82149022
A whale with a sword on it's face

>>82148874
I think the goal is to try and not be GoT
No matter what we decide on

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>>82149040
but anon that's not how narwhals look

>>82148980
Holy shit I've never seen something that is so simultaneously beautiful and disgusting at the same time. I love/hate it so much.

>>82149062
This. I really like how the Whale Fall is based on the old depictions of whales and think that should be the canon.

>>82149062
>>82149071
I can agree with that.

>>82149058
Fair Enough, I retract my ice golem idea.

>>82149062
Now we're talkin, clearly these are just the Suurian greater narwhal.

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This will take a bit. I go from the top down.

>>82149033

some people say now there are three giants hunting for poeple now

>>82149133
Looking good!
Just remember about the 4 rivers, and how the Durite-Lapsaria border was given by one of them. Don't want you to have to do any more reworking than you already had to due to pre-estabiilished lore, especially since this step is probably going to be way more time consuming

>>82149033
I like this art but i can't think of where we'd fit that monster in neatly

>>82149163
I am planning for that already. I know where it'll be.

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>>82148594
>>82149062
>>82149033
>>82148980
>>82148977
>>82149022
>>82148964

> Giant horned whales hunting under the ice
> white and golden worms with razor sharp beaks and tentacles in every shallow pool of water
>whatever the hell keeps howling in the mist
>Another riot in the labor camps, wish they'd just shut up and mine
>Why did I take this assignment again?
>Wait, whose that out their in the ice...
>Is that some pale woman out there?
>I got to get out there before she freezes to death
>Wait...that's not hair on her head...That's...

>Hours later
>Has anyone seen Johnson?
>No sir, but do we have any female inmates?
>Don't be ridiculous of course not. Why?
>Must've been the wind sir, could've sworn I heard a maiden's song.

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>>82149243
Don't forget these lads.

>>82149322
>rapid slapping as a nearly naked ice nomad runs at you with a sharpened fish bone

>>82149243
>>82149322
>>82149330
Congratz everyone I think we've made the northern border suitably terrible. Someone make sure this is all put in the lore document. I haven't the foggiest one where one would put it.

>>82149322
>>82149243
Do we need to add a Eastern & Western Border Soldier?

>>82149391
I'll make a heading if you wanna chuck it in

>>82149407
Eastern border soldier: occupying the durites
Southern border:fearing the masovii and jasentorf
Western border:Cleaning up after ververia campaign

>>82149428
There's a bit about the ice nomads at the bottom of theory crafting, so you can just move it from there to the right place

>>82149407
>>82147702
The only western border is with Ververia, idk how much conflict is there.
the Eastern Border is where the Durit rebellion is hottest right? Would we consider it an active war zone at this point or more just the occasional rebel warband hit and run?
The Masovii aren't in active conflict with Lapsari but are helping fund the durit rebels.
Perhaps the southern border is actually quite boring since it's just managing incoming and outgoing masovii and jesentrof dignitaries and buissnessmen and that's why the northern border solider is glad he isn't there because he'd be bored to death?

>>82149528
>tfw got assigned to the southern border
>don't got to deal with skypirate raids out of high harbor in the west
>don't got to dodge Durite warbands in the east
>don't got to watch asylum labor and ice nomads in the north
>even get to drink with the Based Prince when he comes through

Life is good.

>>82149565
>>82149528
wasn't the border with the Durites originally gonna be the southern border?

>>82149572
Yeah

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>>82149565
Jesentrof invasion soon, fellow Southern Border Guard
Once they finally piece themselves back together

>>82149528
It's true - though it'll take much longer, beurocracy will kill you just as well as a spear. It may even be crueler than way...

On that note - Does someone want to draw a Ververian? They could maybe go in one of the Pain / Stone slots left

>>82149586
Who is going to do it? The Mad Man of Yostethein? The Mercenary Princess? Maybe the Arch-Bishop will pull a trick.
Or maybe it will be the true masterminds, the Gisser prince and his cousin

>>82149610
My money is on Mercenary Princess. N-no bias... none whatsoever.

>>82149572
I don't recall but I think the durrite's where they are now makes a lot of sense. Their steppe is backed by the mountains, Lapsari has them trapped in a corner and the only way through is out.
>>82149565
I love it, makes the Northern Border's attitude even funnier

>Goes to check to see if the northern border lore is typed in the lore log
>Not only is it already in their but one of the anonymous editor's is a narwhal
>Truly a sign that we're on the right track

>>82149628
All this narwhal talk made me remember this old ass video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc

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Sorry this isn't really an interactive process lads. I'm still working.

>>82149656
NARWHALS NARWHALS
SWIMMING IN THE OCEAN
CAUSING A COMMOTION
CAUSE THEY ARE killing the Northern guard my god there's so much blood and we haven't seen Johnson in three days now

>>82149600
I think all we know about them is that they had their asses handed to them by the slab knights for being stone worshippers. So Stone/pain slot is fitting but I don't think we have them fleshed out enough to really make any assumptions on what they look like or even do. I'm all up for any ideas though but for me I'm drawing a blank right now.

>>82149666
Don;t worry. I think getting the geneeral shape of the maps and the positioning of the countries correctly was the part most people could interact with. What you're doing now requires a lot more know-how (Both artistic and geographical), so it's undertandable the thread has less direct input.
Anyways, it's looking good!

>>82149175
The mad mutant tribal cannibal wendigos kills polar bears and wear the fur as large coat.

>>82149692
>polar bear made a deal

>>82149671
>>82149656
I love this thread so much

>>82149683
Maybe we can have them be pseudo-stone worshipers. As in, they worshiped the Monolith in the past, but affter a couple hundred years of isolation to it theyd eveloped their own sub-faith, worshiping totems and engravings of the monolith as a proxy.
That way we can have some totemist influences, and we can have a relation between the Ververians and the Tlingit-based nomads of thee Tundra (Whcih we sttill don't have a name for)

>>82149692
I was thinking of finding somewhere in Jasentorf for it

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>Northern Border Guard: "NOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO THROW ROCKS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO EAT THEM! THIS IS NOT HOW THE VAST IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!"
>Wendigo, throwing rocks: "HEYFRIENDIT'SME HEYFRIENDIT'SME HEYFRIENDIT'SME"

>>82149656
>They stop chtulu eating ye
Narwhals are the rebellious whales, outside of the control of the sea gods.
They use their sword heads to kill other whales and denizens of the deep.
No reason for it, they are just dicks

>>82149572
I think so, but tthe way the map ended up it wouldn't make much sense. Plus, the direction itself doesn't really make much a difference in the big picture.

>>82149722
The Qelerqa perhaps?

>>82149722
are the tundra nomads not the Suuri? Or is that the name of the place and not the people

>>82149756
unless the horns are quartz polyps, or coral growths
They drive the whales crazy

Many think there's an ancient Menhir or a coral reef somewhere below the ice

>>82149779
Good question. It'd make sense to have them be the Suuri, but nothing's been estabilished yet

>>82149731
Wendigos being mutated rock eater but from the northern tundra is a good idea actually.

Troglodytes are always a good addition to a setting

>>82149830
>Troglodytes are always a good addition to a setting
Strangely, not the first time an anon has said this in tehse threads.

>>82149798
This is one of those parts of the world that, like many 'unsettled' areas is under active contention.
I personally think there's an 'old' culture that has all but completely deteriorated with their last true members worshiping the 'Big Worm.' The rest completely turned into cannibals drawing strength from 'stone and marrow taken' and similar horrors.
Then you have Aemids who are just chugging along on their yaks, and the most recent invaders from the East, our Wooden Warriors who've been harassing the Lapsarians. And the Aemiids. And anything unfortunate enough to cross paths with them.
Really, the only thing they fear is the afformentioned Big Fuckoff Worm.

>>82149830
>Lapsarian Phrenologists think they represent an important link between the durites and animals

>>82149854
What about the link between Durites and Humans?

>>82149859
no solid evidence has been found

>>82149528
>>82149407
>>82149491

>Eastern Border Solider
>Got fed up when he got shot with insurgent's arrow...again
>Got concerned when the arrow wound left a quartz polyp
> At least gets to take aggression out by oppressing Durite's
>steals their shit during the rebel searches
>Got weird feelings after defacing a Menhir
> Oh shit a big lizard crawled out of the ground!
>Shot it and it shattered like rock and glass
>Hates this place
> At least isn't at the northern border

>>82149883
>Wait where'd the shards go?
>Guys?

>>82149869
That weird shamanesse that the Tsarina let's in her court keep talking about Kyugoryo proving the holyness of stone skin, I don't know why our leader keeps the company of such insane individual.

>>82149902
Meh. She also has a dancing bear. Don't stress too much about it.

>>82149902
I hear the Tsarina thinks she's pretty good in battles of wit

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>>82145834
Took a while but here we go
[3,3]
>The Capri Bay Die-Hard
> Refuses to leave his ancestral home
> Lives off of supplies stolen from looters
> For some reason the ghosts leave him alone
> "Sure is spooky out there."

>>82149798
>>82149779
>>82149847

The Suuri is a name the lapsarian's collectively give to the various nomadic tribes and cults scattered throughout the tundra but each have their own names and belief's many revolving around the various strange beast of the land as powerful spirits and some believe the mist itself as powerful sky spirit that protects the land.

Scholars argue wither these tribes are the ancestors of the Ververia or the other way around.

>>82149961
I like how Capri Bray has evolved into this weird mix of Silent Hill and Stalker's The Zone that the state pretends doesn't exist and never happened despite the very obvious supernatural goings on.

>>82149996
Of course nothing is going on there. Where else would the Empire get its grain from?
>[haunted bread moans in the background]

>>82149961
still like the
>likes the neighbourhood better this way

>>82150011
>Takes bite of sandwhich
>I moan in pleasure
>The bread moans in pain
>what?
>What?

>>82150011

>The Kelp wine keeps screaming
>That just means it's well aged

>The Salt Burners attempted to eat a child again
>Operating at peak efficiency, crank up the fans

>Can we talk about fish people?
>I know the neighbors are Kossoki but that's just rude!

It's not that Lapsaria isn't a nightmare, but one that you could probably get real comfy in.
In the right circumstances anyways. The good end for the Durites is probably getting back on the horse and going across the vast to ruin some poor Dynasties day.

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>>82149923
BATTLE OF WITS

>>82150082
"The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma..."
[picture of schnitzel being tossed out of a frying pan]

>>82150034
So do I, but I thought it was important to make clear that he was alive for a reason (the ghosts not going after him). Also, his smile might suggest he's contempt with the situation.
But hey, I'm just an anon. Switch to whatever people like best

>>82150118
the wojak is fairly simple, we might be able to fit them all

>>82150082
An idiot savant is still a savant

>Everyone thinks the prince is secretly an elaborate genius just playing dumb
>Is actually that dumb but things keep going in his favor because his rivals keep undermining themselves out of sheer paranoia and 4th dimensional chessing themselves
>Is genuinely just trying to have a good time and make friends and worst yet believes his rivals are being honest about being his friend

>>82150140
>or does he just want you to believe that?

>>82150140
This prince is the spiritual successor of the Tsar that just fell off the Seawall.

>>82150082
>The Deacon; Impossible! You've entered my most Sacred Sanctum!
>The Deacon; You dastardly Jasen demon... Tell me good prince, before I kill you. Who sent you? How did you get past my traps? And the ravenous mudskippers?
>The Prince; Oh dearie me this is you bathroom? Oh I thought I'd taken a wrong turn!
>The Prince; I'll just get out of your hair, you look like you need to use it way more than I, and I really need to use the bathroom!
>The Prince; Oh and by the way. Your dogs are very cute but they're a little wet.

>Prince is leaving behind evidence for Maid, as she's the best hope for doing something with it

>>82150140
>The suitor is the only who is genuine with the prince
>This is because he actually believes everything the prince says because he's not paranoid and can't be intimidated
>Doesn't reveal what the other nobles think of the prince to him because he doesn't want to ruin the prince's fun
>As a result the prince and the suitor are good friends
>The suitor doesn't take advantage of this to eliminate the prince or other rivals even though he easily could
>Doesn't need to do so anyway

>>82149973
I like this suggestion.

>>82150167
>How the prince gathered said evidence and if he is doing so intentionally is a mystery the maid doesn't have the patience to solve

>>82150232
> the suitor knows the truth about the prince
> He's not scared shitless of how smart the prince is
> He's scared shitless of how unbelievably lucky the prince is

>>82150140
I imagine the Tsarina would catch on quick having grown up surrounded by master manipulators. And probably finds it endearing.
And she'd probably use him in a roundabout way. Asking him to deliver mundane packages with notes. Not things with food though, poor boy can't help himself with chocolate.

>>82150298
well she does unequivocally trust one of those master manipulators, so she might not be the best judge of character

>>82150319
She might not ask the sources, but that doesn't translate into unequivocal trust.
Especially with her own ambitions and awareness of a certain someone's soft power.

>>82150280
>wipes his slovenly spittle with a document on plans for the next durite pogrom
>"Here miss, would you be a dear and take this to the trash for me?"

>>82150319
>>82150298
>>82150289
>>82150280
>>82150232
>>82150167
>>82150160
>>82150150
>>82150147
>>82150140
>>82150082

God I wish this is all made canon somewhat, but I don't see a character section in the lore document

>>82150344
one has been added, go nuts

>>82150344
For the record, if you don't see a section for something, feel free to make one where you think it's appropriate.

there's anon's that love formatting that will sort things out eventually

>>82150405
> anon's that love formatting that will sort things out eventually
I feel personally called out. I'll get to those other sections, I swear

>>82150427
you do us a great service formatting anon

we just need someone autistically dedicated to going through the old threads to get everything documented and we'll be all set

>>82150460
>you do us a great service formatting anon
Ownt, stop it. I think in general most people in the Docs took to the formating conventions fairly well. The index is being updated frequently, and people are using the correct titling levels. The rest is just parsing through the text layers out and distilling it to something more condensed and readable, which several people have been doing

I like how in the last three or so threads we've had scheduled shitposting sessions near the bump limit. It's a fun break of pace and makes this project so much more memorable

>>82150523
Truly a collaborative effort all 'round
I'm proud of all you anons

>>82150535
Like our own little meme ecosystem

>>82150535
Leviathan general threads have the best memes

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Ok, that's ~half the elevation layers done.

>>82150605
Oh. I thought those mountains looked a bit skinny on the last passes, now I see it's because it was just the peaks.
Looking great CCA!

Well I think we're getting close to the thread limit and it's getting late for me. Hope to see a new thread in the morning. Goodnight everyone.

>>82150735
I'll be working late as I can on this.

>>82150735
>>82150761
have a good night anon

and good luck CCA

I'm probably also gonna be calling it a night

>>82150761
Night CCA, can't wait to see the next update. See if I can make one more portrait for the morrow.

>>82151058
>local anon angry he is incapable of participating in something

>>82148874
>>82149040
>>82149062
>>82149243
>>82150605
I'd like to do a Northern Whale and a Suuri native for the compass.Wherever you have space. Seeing as all FULL FISH tiles are occupied, I might just do the suuri native.

>>82145988
No, not really? It's the same problem as if all of them were Korean, just spread out. Nothing's new, everythings just lifted from wikipedia.

>>82147058
I'd give Lapsaria bit more room to expand. They didn't stop because there's a border, they've stopped because they're stretched too thin.

>>82151058
;
Blaxodio

everyone is a human or half human people ie human dwarf, half orc, half dino, half elemental etc. and there's one one super continent YOU HAPPY NOW

>>82151437
>>82147919
nvm the most up to date veryion here does have that room.

>>82151437
to be fair that's already how it was near the Nemijski river, it is still scarcely populated and only really has Lapsarian settlements as part of their logistical structure

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>>82147034
>The Suuri Tundra

>>82151486
yea but also if I look at
>>82147919
there is stuff beyond the Durites, there is stuff up North, there's enough stuff.

HOWEVER
>>82145834
Considering the map, where the hell is the Souther Border Soldier? He'd just be facing Mosovii, where it's cold enough to completely clad yourself in furs.

>>82151444
Ha ha. No. Stop shitting up my board

>>82143239
I'm happy some of my jasentorf Ideas were kept, uh, what has changed since I left for a break in thread 5?

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>>82151413
I think it would be properly morbid if we rolled with the gaffe of Kyugoreo's nonexistence, it's an ontological anomaly that spits real things out of an unreal context.

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Still working on this, it's gonna be a bit difficult.

>>82151561
I have the impulse of jumping to the coral islands. but IDK. Maybe I should make some shit for ververia to see if it sticks. Has someone already drawn a ververian?

>>82151676
I still don't know what Ververia is. Last Ihad seen it was a JOsentorf principality, so now I don't know what it is

>>82151700
The map and some parts of the lore document imply that is in the norf. And some people suggest it was in some way or another invaded by lapsaria and their slab destroying automatons.
>>82151564
>Mfw kyugoreo is an amalgamation of most if not all nations in the east. Brought to you by hear say and drunk merchants

>>82151757
>Mfw kyugoreo is an amalgamation of most if not all nations in the east. Brought to you by hear say and drunk merchants
All descriptions should start with "allegedly" and the DM should be encouraged to make up or contradict where they see fit.

>>82151700
Nation of Stone-worshippers who either fucked up, or got fucked up by the Slab Knights during the Ververian campaign. It's kinda vague in the lore document.

There's a bit in the lore document about them maybe being pseudo-stone worshippers whose isolation from the vast has caused them to develop their own sub-faith of stone worship involving things like totems and engravings of the monolith, to try and connect them to the aemid and other tundra groups.

I also remember from a couple threads back something about the Ververian campaign being the reason for/cause of(?) the modernization of the Lapsarian military, which also kinda implied they were a naval rival of Lapsaria before the modernization, as this would explain why Lapsaria needed a large navy to begin with.

Hell, that would play well into explaining why the Ververian campagin started at all, as the Deacon could consider stone-worshippers sailing the oceans to be blasphemous against the fish (maybe they really were too) but would be able to spin it to the tsar/tsarina (don't know which was in power when the campaign happened) as bringing a dangerous rival on their border to heel.

>>82152059
Huh. I definitely prefered the Josentorf principlaity lore

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>>82146534
I gotta say, it tickles me pink that my drunkenly typed out and vague as fuck lines about some mountainous themed deep ones have turned into such a cool effort amidst all this.

Perhaps have some soft, glowing runes like the Menhirs in the far corners, or something else to give them a vague outline in the darkness. I'd given some loose thoughts to how to tie them in with the rest of the chart but work took the wind out of my sales lately.

>>82152081
What lore was there for it as a Josentorf principality? I looked in the lore document and a couple of the past threads but I couldn't find much for it other than it maybe being part of Josentorf.

>>82146534
Evil stone people please. I don't want to go home, my home is on the surface. I was already home, stop singing please.

>>82152102
yea there wasn't much, I'm really just talking about my opinion on the basic concept.

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Drawing her took a lot of effort, hope you like her
>The Gorgeyo Worm Dancer
>Her every performance is sold out
>Sometimes the fans sneak into the dressing room and don’t come out anymore
>Craves more than just serving Auntie
>Banished from the Jem Empire

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The Sunset Seaman

>Last thing he shot down was a bottle of rum
>Carries 23 diseases you don't know the name of
>He hasn't been invaded
>Yet
>Metal ships ... burn, right?

>>82152219
I swear making me look bad like that, couldn't just finish at another time
I dig it, nice job

>>82152269
>>82152219
nice

>>82147702
idk, but it feels like the Vast Waste should be a little bigger (about 40% longer).

>>82147702
And Kyugoryo is kinda too small.

>>82152269
I spent about three hours trying to draw her. Though I think expanding info about Sunset Navy is more useful to lore, while she looks more like NPC or PC (for King-worshiper campaign).

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Ok version 1 of the topography is done.

>>82152337
Nice done

>>82152337
Whoops, meant to have my trip.

>>82152219
That worm is fuckin dope