>>82330143
Imperial Navy group
>Tribespeople from a Jungle Forgeworld, these are cavalry that specialize in trench warfare, which I'm choosing to think of as intra-ship combat instead of choosing to think of as stupid. They adhere to the Omnissah's creed and also somehow have actual blessed wargear. They're obscure as fuck and fight for their homeworld. They're allied with the above imperial guardsmen, and are enemies with a group of Chaos Space Marines.

Chaos Space Marines
>HOOBOY
>So. There's three of these warbands, all allied together and all splinters from Traitor legions. I'm going to be writing about them separately because otherwise it just gets confusing.
>The first warband here is a Black Legion splinter. This splinter is fanatically devoted to Chaos, specifically Chaos Undivided. Their creed is the Gods above all, they're *hardcore* worshippers. They specialize in ambushes and stealth. Mutationwise, the Black Legion splinter is twisted to the point it doesn't resemble humanity anymore, so this is some body horror shit. Mentally, the splinter hallucinates and forgets shit. Their figure of legend is a possessed who was a scourge of the Imperium, destroyed planets, killed shit, the works. Their homeworld is a toxic feudal/feral world that they share with the Alpha Legion splinter, they use chemical weapons, and have bestial companions, probably from their toxic homeworld. They're slightly understrength but that's just because they're spread thin and have other fragments everywhere.
>The second warband is an Alpha Legion splinter. This splinter loathes chaos, not using it at all. They're battle maniacs and specialize in ambush tactics and stealth. Their figure of legend is a terminator who slaughtered a hero of the imperium. Their homeworld is a toxic feudal/feral world that they share with the Black Legion splinter, they do death from afar, and they have unusual mounts, probably from their toxic homeworld. They're average strength. Almost *too* average...

>>82330167
>The final warband is a Word Bearers splinter. This splinter is neutral to chaos, seeing it as a tool but not trusting it, though they do worship Chaos Undivided. They're merciless bastards who take no prisoners. Mutationwise, the Word Bearers splinter is twisted to the point it doesn't resemble humanity anymore, so this is some body horror shit. Again. Their figure of legend is a chaos champion who corrupted an entire sector, plunging them into the grip of chaos. They're fleet based and are parked over the feral/feudal toxic world that their allies are based on. They use terror tactics and have unique daemon engines. They're absolutely fucking massive, due to absorbing a renegade space marine chapter. This chapter, just for convenience and tying loose ends together, is the former chapter of the Kabal's primaris slave.

And that's everything. If anyone has any ideas, thoughts, comments, questions, etc on what any of these things mean, please by all means share em.

Also, I'm planning on rolling up that renegade chapter, so I suppose we can start with a d100 for why they fell.

Rolled 71 (1d100)

>>82330180

>>82330605
A battle-brother found a badass weapon that was secretly a Daemon weapon, and it corrupted everyone. Wow, sucks to be them.

Now, we're skipping the progenitor because in the previous thread we agreed that they'd be blood angel descendants, so I suppose we'll just move on to how devoted they are to Chaos. (d10)

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>82330655
Also might be worth going over the Curriculum Vitae for the Void Mistress again. The Void Mistress is the Archon of the Cloaked Void.

>>82330948
Ima be real, I was OP of the first thread to and I have no clue what the curriculum vitae is, so if you could elaborate that'd be great.

Also
Neutral. Chaos is a weapon, not something to avoid but not something to be devoted to.
Now, what god do these former Blood Angels hold to?

>>82331077
sorry, d12 please

>>82331077
It means her resume, but in High Gothic.
Anyway, we know the Archon now known as the Void Mistress was originally an Exodite called Ru'khess. How she found herself in Commorragh is a bith of a mystery, though it is likely that she was originally brought there as a pleasure slave. Never the less, she eventually found herself running with one of the many low-born gangs that coalesced into the Cloaked Void, and worked her way into a position as a Dracon for the new Kabal. When the Kabal found itself faced with ghosts in its new quarters in the docking spire, she was tasked with finding some way of appeasing or controlling them, by the former Archon. Against all odds, and risking a fate worse than death should she fail, she managed to do just that; turning the ghosts, many of whom were the vengefulk spirits of other Drukhari killed by the nascent Kabal, from a persistent enemy into a useful asset to the Kabal. The Void Mistress used her knowlege of eldar spirituality from her old life as an Exodite to do this. She expanded the rituals, bringing in many allies within the Kabal, and consolidating her own base of power under the nose of her old Archon. When a Ynnari agent appeared, trying to recruit the Kabal into working for his strange death kult, the original Archon refused. The Void Mistress, however did not. She killed the former Archon, and took control of the Kabal of the Cloaked Void, which quickly fell in line behind her.
Much of the Kabal's hatred towards other Eldar is at her behest. She is somewhat embarassed to be an Exodite, because she feels that they are all backwards hicks, despite the power she gained from her Exodite knowledge. Much of her enthusiastic and highly visible embrace of hedonism is in fact a conscious effort to out-deldar the Deldar she findws herself living among. She loathes the Craftworlders, blaming them for failing to defend her homeworld from the Drukhari raiders who kidnapped her.

Rolled 1 (1d12)

>>82331102
>>82331224

Of course, she hates the Drukhari, and feels that her half-born, low-Commorrite Kabalites are little more than vermin. Despite happily accepting the money and support of the Ynarri, she sees them as little more than psychotic death cultists who have been duped by the Great Enemy.
Basically, the only living being for whom she bears the slightest amount of affection is her pet Space Marine, who she named Pet. Even so, she keeps the Space Marine in constant agony, wearing a wrack mask, and with a pain matrix plugged into his Black Carapace ports, making it utterly impossible for him to move without feeling unimaginable pain. Pet bears the pain somewhat stoically, which on some level, she respects. Of course, she also appreciates having a constant supply of rejuvenating suffering at her side at all times, keeping her in the very image of youthful vigor.

>>82331224
>>82331304
Oh the thing I wrote up. Didn't know we decided on the details of the primaris or her personality, I figured the primaris was some sorta near mindless black rager, not a weird bdsm fetish thing.

Anyways, looks like these blood angel renegades hold to chaos undivided.

Now, what form do their beliefs take? (D100)

Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>82331429
I went for it, and threw in some of my own details that nobody really objected to. When you're going for consensus, silence is consent!
Also it just seems natural that part of the reason she appreciates Pet is because Druhkari need pain to survive, and he can handle a lot of it without breaking. It also ties in with their rivalry with the Imperial Guard regiment; this particular Kabal seems rather frugal with their resources. They try to avoid wasting or destroying things that might be useful later. You could even say it's an Exodite influence from the Void Mistress. They may be sadistic lunatics, but they put a certain amount of effort into stewarding their hunting grounds, and if they have a good thing going, they try to hold on to it. This also contrasts a bit with their low-commorrite origins, where you take what you can get and try to get everything you can out of it before someone takes it from you in turn. Learning how to protect their investments could be one of the things that gives them a slight advantage over their neighbors in the docking spire.

>>82331540
I do like the rest of what you've proposed, it fits really nicely, but frankly the whole 'pet' thing seems a bit fetishy for my tastes. These *are* thr deldar, but *we* aren't, if that makes sense.

Okay, so the creed here is the Gods Above All, but these guys aren't fanatics so I'm gonna have someone reroll for me if that's okay.

>>82331622
That's true, but that's just how a Drukhari would refer to her most favored pain slave, and humiliating the Space Marine is just an added bonus.

>>82331622
Agreed, too fetishy, keep the relationship towards hate on part of the marine and treating him as an amusing trophy/useful animal without any inch of endearment explicit or implicit on part of the exodite.

Bumping, and also reminding people that I'd really love another d100 for creed.

Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>82333481

>>82333495
Daemonhood is godhood. These guys actively seek to become daemon princes.

Considering they're not fanatics, I assume this just means 'Daemon Princedom is a bunch of fucking power and we want it.'

Now, what's their demeanor? (d10)

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>82333538
Also explains why they're running with Word Bearers

>>82333590
They practice scorched earth, denying everything that they can to their enemies.

Now, what kind of mutations do they have? (d10)

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>82333842

>>82333995
Freakish skin, there's something fucking nuts about it, from scales to hair to something else.

Who was their figure of legend? (d100)

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Rolled 63 (1d100)

Tried the two cavs. Didn't really know what to do with them. Turned out shit.

>>82334132
Roll

>>82334232
I like the Walrus mount

>>82334232
bro this is fucking amazing, holy shit! Great work drawfriend!

Figure of legend is a Chaos Champion or Possessed. Considering these guys want daemonhood for power I assume it's the latter, though that's pretty obviously up to everyone not just me.

Now, what did they do? (d100)

Rolled 63 (1d100)

>>82334410
Posessed are some of my favorites lore-wise so i vote for posessed. Also, these guys are running with a Word Bearers host, so it's a good fit.

>>82334438
Corrupted an entire sector to chaos, the same as what the word bearer figure of renown did.
Weird.

Now, I'm gonna skip homeworld since if they're part of the word bearer splinter they're gonna be fleet based.

So, whats their combat doctrine? (d10)

>>82334232
the one on the right is not very good but the walrus is excellent

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>82334881
>Corrupted an entire sector to chaos, the same as what the word bearer figure of renown
Maybe they did it together

>>82334935
Huh
Daemons everywhere. These guys are followed by tides of daemons wherever they go.
They're better word bearers than the word bearer splinter!
Now, what sort of special equipment do they have? (D100)

Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>82335068
Maybe the reason the guards are a penal regiment of priests is because their order has fallen out of favor with the Ministorum at large.

>>82335559
Oh, good idea. Not heretical but definitely unorthodox even though they're fanatically devoted to the emperor

Also, biological alterations. They got bile-type weird shit.

Now
How big are they?

Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>82335783

>>82335813
Oh sorry, it was supposed to be a d10
But I can just divide by 10, and both a 5 anf a 6 are Typical Strength so I'm just gonna go with that.
Now, we already know their allies, but who're their enemies? (D100)

Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>82335858

>>82335865
Tyranids. Fucking tyranids.

...I guess that's why the blood angel renegades are so daemon-happy despite not fanatically devoted to chaos. Daemons and Daemon Princes are immune to being eaten by the Hive Mind

Now, that's basically everything, so right now we got two options. Either we roll up the tyranids now, or we try and flesh out the blood angels and the chaos space marines and that second group of guard and the first group of guard too beforehand.
Personally I'd prefer the second but it's up to you all.

Looks like we're rolling up a hive fleet.

>>82336042
Im gonna be fully real, I dont know where the last line came from. I didn't type it. Or at least, I don't remember doing so.

>>82336063
That's the Zoanthrope who lives down the hallway.

>>82336080
Lmao. Maybe yeah.

Bumping bumping bumping

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>>82330143
>Also have a red thirst/black rage blood angel primaris as a slave/pet. ...I swear it makes sense in context.
He should be a Dreadnought. Or rather, have been in a Dreadnought until the Kabal unhooked his sarcophagus and brought him home as a trophy. Can't kill them and try to escape if you've got no limbs.

>>82336828
Oh, bit of lore stuff to discuss and talk about. Thoughts on the Daemon Weapon that corrupted the blood angel renegade chapter being an agent of belakor or some shit?
Take a chapter that already hates the tyranids, bend them to his will, load em up with daemon shit so they dont get eaten.

Just a thought.

>>82337860
I like it, but maybe they played a cruel joke and restored his body in the form of a wrack/grotesque. Trapped in a sarcophagus of flesh that is not his own, unable to will his limbs into action against his tormentors.

>>82338121
>>82337860
That sounds awesome. Maybe they used leftovers from his battle brothers to rebuild his body, and none of the parts quite match, and in addition to his own torment, he's constantly reliving his brothers' final moments at the hands of his captors.

>>82338331
Blood angels are all moderately psychic, that would actually happen.

>>82338121
>restored his body in the form of a wrack/grotesque
He's got a gigantic vaguely humanoid body stitched together from the remains of his battle-brothers, with the original Dreadnought sarcophagus for a head.

>>82338940
That's pretty metal. The Void Mistress should have a throne welded to the top of the sarcophagus, and ride him into battle

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>>82338940
>>82339286

If the marine was a primaris, they'd have been entombed within a redemptor-pattern dreadnought. Potentially, this is what drew the kabal's attention to them and allowed for their capture in the first place. Remember how redemptor systems tend to burn out their pilots like onager dunecrawlers? The marine was fighting the kabal when said burnout began, leaving him paralyzed by agonizing-even-by-astartes-standards seizures while the kabal finished off the rest of his battle-brothers and took him captive.

>>82339286
Why be an exodite living some primitive life in the boonies having to break your back doing manual labour when you could be an Archon of a cabal in Commorragh, sitting on a throne atop a vehicle sized grotesque fighting beast made out of the corpses of several of the humans' fancy new godling space knights?

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>>82339782
That would definitely get the Kabalites' attention, they'd all practically look like children from the suffering they imbibed, and the Void Mistress would immediately decide she needed to keep it for herself.
>>82340031
Meanwhile, all her neighboring Archons are joking about how you can take the Exodite out of the Maiden World, but you can't take the Maiden World out of the Exodite, and comparing it to the Sauropod mounts the primitives use. They're appropriately jealous though, and putting varying degrees of effort into figuring out how to steal her throne or obtain one of their own.

>>82340401
A pain engine made from the flesh of a bass boosted psychic noble warrior, already in incredible agony from their entombment, then stitched together again with the flesh of their own brothers who're similarly psychic and can communicate their pain, and forced to fight on behalf of the exact kind of creature you despise with all your being for willingly turning to this evil decadence and casual cruelty, is an incredibly potent source of fine quality suffering.

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>>82340401
>comparing it to the Sauropod mounts the primitives use
Is it human-shaped or quadrupedal, more closely resembling one of said dinosaurs?

>>82337860
>>82338121
>>82338331
>>82338343
>>82338940
>>82339286
>>82341355
OP here, just woke up.

First off, this is metal as fuck. One question though. If we go with this, how's that gonna work with the 'renegade blood angel chapter being this primaris' old chapter' thing we talked about? Are we just gonna kinda ignore that? Is there a way to make it work?

>>82330143
> They specialize in capture tactics and yet use splinter weapons, and despite hating other eldar, they work with the Ynnari. They're at odds with a guard regiment. Also have a red thirst/black rage blood angel primaris as a slave/pet. ...I swear it makes sense in context.
> >Warrior Priests in a Penal Legion from an Ice Agriworld that ride enormous beasts into battle.

Um… okay. These procedurally generated factions always read like nonsensical spam. None of this shit makes sense or sounds cool, it’s just a lot of attempting to pigeonhole random variables into a coherent faction. No rhyme or reason. I’ll pass on this thread.

>>82343786
And yet instead of being a mature adult you decided to make a public declaration before you flounced out of the thread like a five year old who's mad her daddy wont buy her a toy.

What was the point of this shittery? If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to say shit.

>>82342530
I wasn't really thinking about whether their comparison was accurate, it's just petty Archons being petty and mean for the sake of it. Personally, I was thinking it would either walk like a gorilla on its fists, or have like 30 rows of legs and move life a centipede. Being a throne, it would probably work best if it resembled a Palanquin in some way, but I'm open to other designs.
>>82341355
He's a huge hit in the Kabal
>>82343757
Presumably, he was captured before they went Renegade. Maybe they were so desperate that they'd make pacts with Daemons to fight the 'nids precisely because they were missing a redemptor dread and the better part of a company, and were really in a pinch?

>>82344682
Oh, yeah that makes a lot of sense.

They picked up the daemon weapon and at the moment where the chapter was at its lowest, it offered power for the low, low price of corruption.

Hell, the original wielder could have been the possessed who plunged a sector into chaos.

>>82345875
They could have even gotten the weapon from a Sybarite or something. The Synarite was genetically engineered and pharmaceutically enhanced to be basically immune to the corrupting effects of the weapon by suppressing his psychic spoor, but it still cut things pretty well and made him feel special because nobody else got to have one. However, he's not immune to mass reactive bolter shells, and he was out of the fight after taking a few too many to his head. He splatters. The Bangles are getting pushed back, having taken serious losses from the Deldar pirates, when all the sudden their listening posts report no enemy activity. The Deldar disappeared as suddenly as they arrived. As the Bangles start to regroup, they notice a shadow over the Warp, and the first spores start falling on the planet. Surrounded and outnumbered, the company captain picks up the cursed sword, which itself is a relic from the Great Crusade (but for which Legion? The blade says AD VEROS DEOS XVII) securing their victory against their new foe, but damning his chapter.

>>82343786
>Warrior Priests in an Astartes Legion from an Ice Feral World that ride enormous wolves into battle.
Wow it's so nonsensical, no fucking rhyme or reason to anything. Or you could grow a brain and actually use it.

>>82346306
Hell yeah, I fucking love that lore.
Speaking of, let's roll up that swarm fleet (this is OP again)

First off, who's the Hive Fleet's progenitor?

>>82347121
Oh, d100 please. Nearly forgot.

Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>82347121
>>82347250

Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>82347250
Might as well!

>>82347445
Our progenitor is hive fleet Kraken. Nice.

Now, how big are we? (D10)

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>82347725

>>82347773
A Hive Fleet Splinter. Not a full fleet but not a bunch of lictors huddled on a single planet either.

Now, how big is that splinter? (D10)

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>82347887
That seems like about the right size. They need something serious enough to fall to chaos but small enough to survive fighting it.

>>82347911
About average size for a splinter, so still somewhere in the middle.

Now, what's their current goal? (D100)

Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>82348462
Eating things, I assume.

>>82348739
Specifically, they're making a beeline for the astronomicon. Nomming that light.

Now, what's their general strategic tendency? (d100)

Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>82349276

>>82350108
Destruction from Afar, so every fuckin bioform has a gun. Dakka forever.

Now, what are some of the fleet's common biomorphs? (D10)

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>82350668

>>82350811
Bioplasma. Makes sense with the guns.

Now, what kind of assets does this hive fleet have? (d100)

Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>82351206

>>82351474
...A Nightmare Fiend.
Here's the text.
>Nightmare Fiend (Dagon Overlord-esque) - Mutated into a nigh-unstoppable monster by the experiments of the Fleet's Norn-Queen, this creature is an abomination even among the hordes of the Tyranids. Deployed only in the most desperate situations due to its massive material cost and high independence, this Fiend has been the death of entire armies and Astartes Companies.

Well
I can see why the blood angels went chaos to fight this fucker.

Now, for our final choice, who's the hive fleet's main enemy right now? (d100)

>>82351590
>Now, for our final choice, who's the hive fleet's main enemy right now? (d100)
Why not just have it be heretic Blood Angels?

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>>82338940
>a gigantic vaguely humanoid body stitched together from the remains of his battle-brothers, with the original Dreadnought sarcophagus for a head
>>82339286
>The Void Mistress should have a throne welded to the top of the sarcophagus, and ride him into battle
holy shit, Dougal Dixon Drukhari

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>>82351651

>>82351632
Oh yeah that'd work. It's really fuckin late here, I'm probably gonna just crash.

>>82351659
I'm not familiar with Dougal Dixon, but I'd wager Andy Chambers was when he was working on the Drukhari. That looks like pretty awesome body horror.

>>82343757
There's no reason he couldn't have been captured before they went chaos but after they went renegade. How did they go renegade? It has to be in a way that would lead them to chaos. Red thirst is a possibility, but maybe it wasn't the entire chapter? The influx of Primaris could have lead to a chapter's internal monitoring for the thirst falling behind, and they get resentful en masse of their circumstances. A breakaway faction goes off to fight something they can drink the blood of instaed of being stuck in with say necrons, because it's their due to get to have blood for all the effort they put in. Maybe they took an opportunity provided by an outburst of black rage, and abandoned those marines to a futile rewardless battle; but of course, the ones they abandoned prevailed over all odds, and are now out for vengeful justice veangence.

Also, could the pets down on the planet be like the Kabal's pet, marines in the grip of black rage. Maybe the renegades gave them to the black legion as a present on arrival.

>>82343786
Let's say in universe that a guy with this attitude is chained Salacious Crumb style to the archon's throne. He's mocked and tortured, but is brain-damaged and and just injects himself into conversations to make snide remarks all day. The kabal thinks it's hilarious.

>>82351769
Fair. Same here honestly.
I like the development we're doing here, though I admit I'm loosing track of the different factions.

>>82330143
good art, who is the artist?

>>82353924

Hey, OP here, just woke up.
I gotta say I kind of agree with you.

For now id suggest maybe fleshing out lore and shit for one faction at a time, until we get a good grasp on all of em. Because I think we've finished rolling, so all that's left is lore now.

So, starting with the warrior priests, because they're the second faction we rolled up.

I'm not sure why but I really like the idea of their mounts being able to grow fucking enormous, like, not actually stopping. The leaders of this regiment have agreements with like a giant land walrus and a polar bear and a yak and maybe something else, all the size of houses. In exchange for rare plants grown under the ice and frost, the giant beasts allow the regiment to try and tame and train their descendants, taking them out into the stars in order to get stronger.

If they survive, these veteran animals return to the homeworld to pass on their genes. If they die, well that's just survival of the fittest.

Hell, tie it into their whole priesthood thing. Maybe they worship the Emperor as a great huntsman, killing monsters and demons all through the stars. If that's true, then they could view the giant animals as descendants of the Emperor's own companions, making training a mount a holy duty of theirs.

Could be how you get ordained into the priesthood, getting an animal mount.

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>>82354500
Anonymous from the last thread.

Alright, OP here, and I'm not gonna let this thread die. That being said, I'm also not gonna post a sad little 'bump' every two hours and pray that someone takes pity on me.

As such, I'm gonna go on a bit of a worldbuilding spree. If anyone wants to comment, refute, join in, or do anything like that, perfect! That's what I'm doing this for. If nobody does though, I'm still gonna continue until I have a fully fleshed out slice of 40k.

So.
Warrior Priests.

They got a preferred fighting style, and their tactics are Shock and awe. Couple this with their warrior priest nature as well as their deldar enemy and I think we have a good foundation for said fighting style.

Shock and awe is meant to demoralize the enemy, and their enemy in this case is the lightning fast raiders of the deldar. The only thing that I think could work in this case is having the regiment's preferred fighting style be defensive in nature, learning how to endure anything and everything with no change of expression, making the waves of the deldar break on their iron defense.

Ties into their fanatical nature too, since they're probably never gonna actually break and run.

Priest wise, I'd see it as emulating the Great Hunter (Emps, obviously), standing firm and never backing down in the face of enormous monsters and demons, weathering blows and then striking when their guard is down.

>>82358083
Very cool.
Thought the wreath behind her head was her own wrapped up hair for minute.
Girl had VOLUME.

>>82360196
Shock and Awe implies swift and overwhelming application of force which doesn't gel with 'defensive' in my opinion. It should be Hannibal leading an elephant's charge, the blitzkrieg breaking the French line, barbarians storming the palace and lopping the emperor's head off. They're also a penal legion, mind, so human waves and fodder tactics are kind of the norm of that structure. It might not be the perfect style against the Cloaked Void, but they'd certainly fight more than just the Eldar, and the victories they do steal against them would be all the more demoralising for it. A concerted charge atop a stampeding herd of massive walrus-bear-things fits that criteria well enough I think.

Preferred fighting style could definitely be something that lets them weather the storm without breaking though. A berserker trance, army-wide war chant, something that defines their fighting style into an unbreakable charge.

https://youtu.be/hQ6ObgPOoD8

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>>82351828
Speculative biologist whose work has been turned into memes. The Starfarer posthumans from his book Man After Man would probably make cool inspiration for DE.
>this is your counts-as haemonculus

>>82360196
>The only thing that I think could work in this case is having the regiment's preferred fighting style be defensive in nature, learning how to endure anything and everything with no change of expression, making the waves of the deldar break on their iron defense.
I disagree. Given their nature as cavalry and their shock and awe fighting style, you're most likely looking at something similar to how the Germans used panzer divisions for defense in depth after 1942. (With the notable exception of Kursk, which went rather badly for them) That is, rather than fighting defensively in the mode of say, Kreigers, they specialize in counteroffensives. While the infantry are getting pounded and trying to hold the line, these guys are trying to flank and encircle the enemy, disrupt their momentum, and pick off the outliers. That is to say, they have a fighting style that would typically be associated with the Dark Eldar themselves.
Not only would this better suit a "shock and awe" cavalry contingent, but having a fighting style that is similar to the Dark Eldar would further deepen their rivalry and mutual hatred for one another. Yes, the Deldar farm them for priests, but there should also be moments where, for example, the Deldar get ambushed trying to get back to a webway gate, and their reaction is "dammit, not these assholes again! This is the last thing we need!" It's better if their contests are never one-sided.
>>82361122
Ironically, a counteroffensive and highly mobile fighting style is actually a pretty effective way to disrupt an enemy with a similar fighting style, it's one of the reasons De Gaulle was more successful against the Blitzkreig than other French generals.

>>82361553
>>82361122
Oh I actually like that a lot. Only problem is tying it into religious stuff but that's easily fixed by saying staying mobile honors the Great Hunter who roams through the stars or some shit like that.

>>82361628
Yeah that part is pretty straight straight forward. "The Emperor wants us to do what we wanted to do anyway."
Also ambushes and days-long running gun battles are certainly more of a hunter vibe than sitting in a mud hole.

>>82361680
>>82361680
True, I do like that idea a lot.

Now, I'm vaguely confused as to the nature of their worship. I've already established they view emps as a great hunter roaming the stars, but I'm not sure what form their worship takes.

The only ideas I've got are totem or fetish crafting, specifically from corpses they've killed, and burying part of their kills under the ice to send to the Hunter, but all of that seems a bit lacking for an organized priesthood.
I feel like there should be something more codified but I'm not sure what.

>>82362140
I mean, if you look at actual animist Cults, it's not like they are going to send their dudes to a seminary or learn hardcore theology. They're going to have a few pre- and post- hunt rituals, and some initiation rights and mysteries that only members of their priesthood can know about. Frankly, given this, it's probably the fact that their priesthood would be run as a secret society (modern western analogues are things like the freemasons) that would get them on the inquisitorial and ecclesiarchal shitlist, since their beliefs aren't heretical.

>>82362460
Fair enough.
Probably drives atttaches crazy too, since there's even odds that the regiment itself is structured similarly to a mystery cult.

>>82362972
Definitely. They probably begrudgingly accept the commissar but he's also basically sitting in his office drinking alone most of the time because he doesn't want to get fragged and to be perfectly honest, there's not actually much for him to do, since they police themselves pretty well and their morale is above reproach.

>>82363742
Speaking of, what's the support element look like? I'd assume the regiment itself would be something like 80/15 of animists and franchised agriworlders, with the smaller element representing the civilised imperials who are ostensibly there to keep the penal cult in check, but end up mostly being creeped out and handling logistics. Sort of a roman fertility, sun and harvest vibe, compared to the animists' blood and forests and snow vibe.

>>82364715
They might be other penal soldiers, who are reassigned to the regiment in support roles. Presumably, most of them are at least aware of how much worse things could have turned out for them, and try to keep their heads down and their boots out of the giant killer walrus shit that appears wherever the cavalry goes.

>>82364948
This, and a handful of support staff, commissars, and other minor officers.
People to do the networking.

>>82363742
The only problem is that people keep trying to 'convert' him away from the Emperor's light... and back to the Emperor's light.
It's still recognizably the emperor but its very different to his schola education.

They're so damn polite about it too.

For bonus points, the Commissar's accidentally been picking up a few entry level rituals, just out of habit and assimilation. He hasn't noticed yet but it's only a matter of time before he has the realization.

OP here, just woke up. I really love all of these Commissar ideas and especially the 'roman' style stuff, the harvest and fertility shit. Maybe we have these support elements coming from the same planet as the priests, make it a double divide. The civilized imperials are from underground, where the planet is an actual agriworld and has normal (albeit slightly tribalized) beliefs about the emperor. The warrior priests are from the surface, where it might as well be a death or feral world.

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>>82371296
New to the thread but I’m glad you saved that image lol. Very nice.

Okay, OP back again, not gonna let this thread die, so time for more worldbuilding. I do love the idea of the ‘roman’ attatchment, so let’s take a look at how they interact with the warrior priests.
First of all, they obviously worship a different interpretation of the emperor, closer to what the ‘official’ interpretation is. I think the only real thing they’re gonna have different is that the Emperor is the ruler of the magma of planets, and the Astronomican is the galaxy’s most potent planet ‘core’. He’s the god of the molten core that keeps them warm and lets them grow their crops, and as such he is the Firebringer.
I’d consider them to have a variety of rituals for propitating the Emperor at various times and for various things, they’re all very intricate and all involve fire or lava or ash in some way. They probably view the Warrior Priests as brutish and kinda unsophisticated, and the Priests view them as soft and cowardly, and both view each other as mild heretics, but there’s respect there. The Priests do the fighting and the Embers do everything else, so neither can function without the other.
Both of em are trying to convert the commissar though. He’s not having a fun time.

>>82371333
If you want to do Romans, and have them be semi-tribal, you might want to look at the Gens system. Basically, all Romans were part of a Gens (such as Gens Julia) that could usually be traced back to the founding of Rome (or directly to Venus, as in the case of Julia)
You could even suppose that most of the Gentes claim unbroken lineage to the original settlers of the planet during the Great Crusade, and the surface guys are actually members of a Gens that, for whatever reason, chose never to go under the surface. While the surface priests only make up a maximum of 1% of the global population, they are the largest and oldest Gens on the planet. Anyone who moves to the surface or who is inducted into their mystery cult is formally adopted by the Gens, and assumes their nomen gentilicium. This also means that on Administratum paperwork, everyone in the regiment has the same name, though they use their cognomen or praenomen among each other. This is particularly jarring to outsiders because at first glance, they have troopers calling their Colonel by his nickname (his cognomen) to his face.
Of course, the fifteen percent of the regiment who aren't from the surface continue to use their own nomen gentilicium, but this goes unnoticed by most outsiders since they are largely outside the command structure.

>>82372228
Ooh, I like that a lot. I'm not sure how this transformed from 40k finland into 40k rome, but that's fine.

>>82374263
frankly, Rome has a whole lot more to work with since they wrote everything down. Finland may well have written stuff down, but you have to like, find the birchbark scrap notes in a bog or something like the Novgorod codices. Also, no reason why the surface tribe can't be Gens Pinnastalainen or something, and still be Finnish in most aspects.

>>82375624
Fair enough. The merging of cultures stuff makes sense too.

Anyways, I'm tired as fuck, so I'll be heading off. Hopefully this thread's alive in the morning.

>>82374263
Varangian guard? Imported norsemen barbarians as auxiliaries?

>>82369627
I'd imagined the Roman element would be fairly new to the planet, the Imperium claiming it within the last few centuries and beginning terraforming towards the Imperial agriworld standard, stepping on the toes of the prior occupants in the process. The frozen forests begin to recede and the locals are subjugated to serve the newcomers.

>>82376640
So far, the agreed shit seems to be that this agriworld has the feral shit up top and the agri shit underground.

Do we have anything approaching names for these dudes?

>>82377609
No. Don't think so.
Any ideas?

>>82378937
IF we want to go off >>82372228, they should be the Pinnasta Regiment. When the Tribals were worked into the Gens system used by the Trogs living underground, they used the nomen gentilicium Pinnasta, or "surface." Since about 85% of the regiment is named Pinnasta, the regiment has become known as the Pinnasta regiment.
(And yes, the Gens Pinnasta does somewhat playfully refer to the undergrounders as "Trogs," or Troglodytes.)
If someone actually speaks Finnish, they can go with a better name for the Gens, but I think having them all named "surface" fits.

Another fun little twist, if they are Romanesque: nobody in the regiment speaks Low Gothic. The Trogs use High Gothic almost exclusively, and the Gens Pinnasta uses High Gothic and their own language which shares almost no linguistic similarities with Gothic; another reason why the Ecclesiarchy is so suspicious of them. (For one thing, it places the Ecclesiarchy in the incredibly awkward situation where everyone on the planet understands what they are saying, and can read their documents with native fluency. Something no endless bureaucracy wants to deal with) Since they all speak High Gothic, the planet is still considered in compliance, on what is basically a technicality.

>>82379083
Could be interesting. Problem is, how does this backwater agriworld have a population that knows high gothic?

>>82334881
>>82334935
The obvious link to me is that it was the same Demon in both possessions. Together they could be looking to find perfect host #3, so they can lead another sector wide black crusade.

>>82381315
Oh shit yeah that could work really well desu. Make it some sort of daemon prince or a greater daemon of undivided or shit like that and we got ourselves a party.

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>>82382321
Something skinwalker-inspired could be neat. Fits with the DE kabal rituals copied from their former exodite eldar leader and the arctic barbarian guardsmen.

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>>82330167
Some thoughts to bump
>Imperial Navy group
>Tribespeople from a Jungle Forgeworld, these are cavalry that specialize in trench warfare, which I'm choosing to think of as intra-ship combat instead of choosing to think of as stupid. They adhere to the Omnissah's creed and also somehow have actual blessed wargear. .

Trench warfare is all about armour and mobility getting outpaced by weaponry, forcing a need to dig in to a fortified position and wait it out because even the best assaults bring heavy casualties. An autocannon at the end of a hallway presents a brutal killzone similar to the MG nests in any major battle of WW1, and with no real artillery or air support the only option is to push through under fire, or sap. Given they come from a Foregworld, they're well suited to the latter, finding or making ways through the wallspaces and utility tunnels that wind through any voidship, holding chokepoints and vital parts of the ship while sappers slowly work their way up to enemy lines to make an effective assault. This process could take months or even years to clear out a ship on the offensive - meaning they're primarily used to defend against boarding actions - but with control of engines or life support, that vessel may be dead in the water until one side finally wins.

For Forgeworld Tribals, they could be techno-barbarians regressed from skitarii who were abandoned in the under layers of the forgeworld generations ago, still carrying the gene-bulking and biological mods their stock were made with but lacking the cybernetic augmentation, outside of a few individuals who received the blessing of tech-shamans. They'd know that the chainsword needs to slake its thirst with black-blood, and that the metal angels have need of their strength, but they'd also think every voidship they serve on is an extension of their homeworld.

>>82386282
Cargo cult shit? Nice. We could also have them kludge stuff together, nothing actually tech-heretical because none of it involves servos or innovation, i'm talking stuff like bashing together metal pipes to form traps and sticking stakes into the ship to make pungee pits.
Might as well go full viet cong.

What do we do with the ice guys mounts? I know we talked about having them getting bigger over time, but did anyone ever do anything else?

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>>82386282
>
Trench warfare is all about armour and mobility getting outpaced by weaponry, forcing a need to dig in to a fortified position and wait it out because even the best assaults bring heavy casualties. An autocannon at the end of a hallway presents a brutal killzone similar to the MG nests in any major battle of WW1, and with no real artillery or air support the only option is to push through under fire, or sap. Given they come from a Foregworld, they're well suited to the latter, finding or making ways through the wallspaces and utility tunnels that wind through any voidship, holding chokepoints and vital parts of the ship while sappers slowly work their way up to enemy lines to make an effective assault. This process could take months or even years to clear out a ship on the offensive - meaning they're primarily used to defend against boarding actions - but with control of engines or life support, that vessel may be dead in the water until one side finally wins.

They strike me as the kind of naval forces that heavily invest in point defense turrets and barricaded walls.
The best offense, is a good number of defensive turrets being overlaid in a leapfrogging pattern so that we move slowly, but we don't get pushed back.
Naval assault takes hours, but it's inexorable and by halfway, the boarded ship is just awash with dread.

>>82383595
I'm not sure about that, but looking back up the thread, we may already have the candidate- >>82338940
>>82341355>>82338331 a noble, heroic, quasi-psychic fallen champion, tormented to the point of insanity by hatred and agonising pain, whose posthuman physiology has been upgraded to the point he can't actually die no matter what further indignities he suffers. A beacon of exquisite suffering in the warp, and a reminder of a corrupted chapter's former glory, used mostly as furniture.

If that doesn't get a demonologist's motor running I don't know what will. Plus it ties back to the Op and the DE.

>>82393195
Pet is a lot of things, and most of them are deldar/man-made horrors beyond our comprehension, but a Daemon isn't one of them. If anything, he's spending far too much time in the webway to experience Daemonic Apotheosis.
Personally, I think whatever was possessing the sword "Ad Veros Deos" and later possessed Pet's former Battle-Brother is enough to get the job done. Plus there's still a contingent of Word Bearers running around with the fallen Bangels. Daemons follow those assholes around like stink on shit.

>>82393480
I agree that the pet isn't demonic, I was thinking more that it gives the Chaos forces a reason to attack but not destroy Dark Eldar, at least until they have their hands on it. A strong host is best, a hideous abomination thats blasphemous on every level and begging for death even before you use it to bind a Demon is so much better. Plus it gives the Dark Eldar a reason to constantly antagonise the Chaos guys, because the seething desire every time they bring it out has got to terribly amusing.

>>82393673
Ah. So the chaos hosts want to take Pet for themselves to use as a Daemonhost, while the Deldar enjoy antagonizing them over it, and the Imperials are caught in the middle. That makes sense. It also helps that the Bangels probably feel deeply ashamed of leaving Pet behind --once they realize he is still alive-- and in their own Chaos-twisted way, desire to "make things right" by bringing him back into the fold.
Pet, for his part, is probably more horrified by what happened to his Brothers than his own fate, and they are probably one of the few enemies that he actually fights voluntarily, instead of being goaded into it by the Void Mistress with the help of Beastmasters and the Haemonculous who remade him.

>>82393195
If Pet gets turned into a daemonhost, it'll swap the seat welded onto its sarcophagus for a pair of rusted metal antlers, grow some patchy fur and not much else needs to change.

Alright, OP here, finally succumbing to the use of a trip because im fuckin tired of saying 'op here'. Been a while, i've been pretty heads down in work recently, but you guys have been doing some damn good work here.

I'll try and collate what we've gotten so far for the warrior priest regiment.

>Mounts are fucking enormous, growing and not really stopping. The leaders of this regiment have agreements with like a giant land walrus and a polar bear and a yak and maybe something else, all the size of houses. In exchange for rare plants grown under the ice and frost, the giant beasts allow the regiment to try and tame and train their descendants, taking them out into the stars in order to get stronger.
>They worship the Emperor as a great hunter roaming the stars and killing monsters, followed by great beasts he’s tamed
>Fighting style is bold and quick, flanking and encircling the enemy, disrupting momentum, and picking off outliers, effectively what the deldar do
>Religiously, they’re a mystery cult, and their regiment is actually structured around that principle, with higher levels of command being higher ups in the cult. This also kind of gets them on the inquisitorial/ecceslechiarcal shitlist, since a secret society is kinda alarming. It’s why they’re technically a penal legion
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>>82396271
>The regiment itself also has an 80/15 split, the 80% being the warrior priests themselves, with the smaller element being the support elements, which come from the same planet as the priests, and are more civilized. The civilized imperials are from underground, where the planet is an actual agriworld and has normal (albeit slightly tribalized) beliefs about the emperor. The warrior priests are from the surface, where it might as well be a death or feral world.
> The civilized undergrounders sort of have a roman fertility, fire, and harvest vibe, compared to the animists' blood and forests and snow vibe. Their worship of the emperor is closer to what the ‘official’ interpretation is. The only real difference is that Emperor is the ruler of the magma of planets, and the Astronomican is the galaxy’s most potent planet ‘core’. He’s the god of the molten core that keeps them warm and lets them grow their crops, and as such he is the Firebringer. They have a variety of rituals for propitating the Emperor at various times and for various things, they’re all very intricate and all involve fire or lava or ash in some way.
>The undergrounders (Embers) view the Warrior Priests as brutish and kinda unsophisticated, and the Priests view them as soft and cowardly, and both view each other as mild heretics, but there’s respect there. The Priests do the fighting and the Embers do everything else, so neither can function without the other.
>Both groups are trying to politely convert the commissar. He’s not having a good time, being the only person in the regiment with an actual schola education and an orthodox view of the emperor.
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>>82396304
>All members of the regiment are part of a Gens, most of which claim unbroken lineage to the original settlers of the planet during the Great Crusade, even the ones on the surface, though they don’t really give that much of a shit about the Gens system.
>While the surface priests only make up a maximum of 1% of the global population, they’re the largest and oldest Gens on the planet, since anyone on the surface and in the mystery cult gets adopted into the gens. This also means that on Administratum paperwork, everyone in the regiment has the same name, though they use their cognomen or praenomen among each other, which fucks with outsiders since you have commanders being called nicknames to their face by the rank and file.
>That being said, the mystery cult doesn’t really care that much about the Gens system, they have their own cult stuff going on. They grudgingly use the name Gens Pinnasta, but nobody inside the Gens calls them that, it’s all cult stuff
>Also, partly to their romanesque roots, nobody in the regiment speaks Low Gothic. The Embers use High Gothic almost exclusively, and the Cult uses High Gothic and their own language which shares almost no linguistic similarities with Gothic. This makes them both incredibly infuriating to the ecclesiarchy, and also means that the planet as a whole is technically under compliance.

I... think? that's everything??
Let me know if I missed something.
For now, I think the main things we might need to go over and flesh out are the mounts and the interplay between the Cult and the Embers, along with maybe a few notable figures

>>82393846
>Pet, for his part, is probably more horrified by what happened to his Brothers than his own fate, and they are probably one of the few enemies that he actually fights voluntarily, instead of being goaded into it by the Void Mistress with the help of Beastmasters and the Haemonculous who remade him.
I really like the idea that Pet has a completely functional set of vocal cords or speakers and won't shut up. Even when he's paralyzed by the Void Mistress' remote control, he won't stop shouting. I can just imagine him fighting loyalists and constantly apologizing.

>>82397830
He does, but the Void Mistress has the volume knob. He only gets to talk of it's really funny, like when they're fighting Imperials.

>>82400162
>the Void Mistress has the volume knob
Does the Mistress have a literal remote control?
https://youtu.be/b5ic3xWyYwo?t=124

>>82396315
>flesh out are the mounts
I think they should be kept fairly straightforward. They're big wintery animals that the regiment trains to smash through enemy lines, don't need to get super unique with it. Big enough that you'd probably put a few people on it in a howdah, like how war elephants were used.

>maybe a few notable figures
The Colonel / Legate / Consular Militant is secretly an inductee of the mystery and pays heavy credence to the cult's whisperings, following the direction of its haruspices over his own advisors and flamens.

>>82401211
>big wintery animals that the regiment trains to smash through enemy lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljrTIUPSiEY

>>82401211
I'm going to be fully real anon, I'm kinda attatched to the semi-mystical portion of the mounts, having them be part of the cult's rites, being more intelligent and much larger than normal animals.
It feels more thematic.

>>82402911
Sure, I was just going by the strict roll interpretation since we got preferred fighting style and not exotic mounts, but a little fudging never hurt anyone.

>>82403161
>>82402911
It feeds into the classic "Dragon rider" Trope.

>>82351590
>Large Overlord-type creature. Plates dripping with bioplasma it excretes over itself.
>Basically a bass boosted hive tyrant, but everything's a gun.
>Literally induces psychological horror in any creature looking at it.
Like a Kelermorph had sex with The Swarmlord, this thing is large, nimble, frighteningly intelligent, and a great shot.
Except instead of shooting stubber rounds, it shoots a ball of extra-potent bioplasma that can bore through a tank.

>>82402911
I want to dig down on this some- it's a sentient being? Does it worship the emperor? They're sentient versions of non-sentient beings? If you don't have answers, I suggest that they are DAoT bioweapons engineered from local critters that can pheremonally commmand other versions of their kind and rather than being immortal, reproduce parthenogenically with intact memories and programming. They may command or spawn the beings the priests ride.

>>82406553
So my initial thoughts were something along the lines of having these be intelligent, but only about as intelligent as a below-average ogryn. I've been basing a lot of my thoughts on this >>82334232 art, so my base idea has been larger than normal versions of regular animals, like walrus, polar bears, and yaks.
The DAoT angle does work really well, and yeah i'll admit the immortality bit doesn't work so good. I do like the parthenogenesis bit.
I'm currently leaning towards only having the 'rulers' of the various mount species be DAoT beings, with the rest simply being larger and more intelligent versions of tundra animals.
...And I just realized that's exactly what you said.
All of this is of course open to change, but it's what i've got so far.

Oh also I do have a quick thought RE: the Embers.
I could see them providing a mild artillery and ranged infantry contingent, sort of supporting fire to the cavalry, so that they get to do stuff in combat.
Thoughts?

>>82410155
It needs to be a little more complex than that. It's sort of flat to have them just show up that way. How are they integrated? How do they coordinate? There might be a segment of the embers that is inducted into the lowest level of the surface cult, even temporarily, so as to cohere the fighting force.

>>82411965
Late roman republic and early byzantine has good clues for the setup here. There'd be some flow in either direction, with some of the undergrounders getting inducted to serve as commanders of the barbarian hordes, and some of the cultists being brought in to serve as elite guards for the HQ - Varangians have been mentioned.

>>82396315
>the main things we might need to go over and flesh out are the mounts
>>82401211
>big wintery animals that the regiment trains to smash through enemy lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z12RWdKMN4

>>82413454
>>82411965
Hmmmm, good points.
Maybe it's a mix of both. The Embers as a whole could be considered part of the mystery cult, albeit the lowest portion and 'unworthy' of being cavalry, the highest position imaginable for the Cult. Instead, they're relegated to the infantry, and, not being idiots, the Embers generally prefer to be suppressive fire and artillery. Let the Cultists soak up the brunt of the human cost, the Embers know that sometimes it's necessary to be the molten core; quiet, unassuming, and ignored until it violently erupts.

>>82406553
>DAoT bioweapons engineered from local critters
These guys? >>82351659

>>82417285
Makes sense.
>Cultists are the hammer that basically banzai charges at every oppotunity.
>Embers are the equivalent of the scalpel, specializing in long range strikes using artillery and snipers to take out key shit to let the beasts get in close and wreck shit.

>>82419143
Naw, that's too Fenrisian. Go with the walrus and bear and moose monsters. Mammoths. Giraffes, because I like them. Ligers. All the animals of the savannah, winterized. Giant wolverines. Giant lobsters. Giant, uh, snails-

actually, make that a local prey item, four foot long metal-eating snails, like those sea slugs, running over ancient ruins and eating them. The bioweapons are protecting the ruins and the human's willingness to help kill the snails is the original foundation of their agreement. So the humans of the surface have metal-infused giant snail-shell armor and harvest circuitry grade metals (even further refined by the snails) to trade to the embers.

>>82358083
actually we are two artist i did this piece of art and the kabal logo, the other one did OP's image
>>82360247
it is her hair and yes she has volume lmao

>>82420964
i didn't know you were different people, but you are technically both Anonymous.

>>82420893
Mammoths could be fun, but winterized savannah animals is...
It doesn't really fit the themes.
Giant snails as a foundation of the human-animal agreement could be fun, maybe its what the embers use in their holy rituals, so they *need* the Cult because the Cult hunts em.

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>>82330167
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>>82431334
At least post artwork.

>>82424407
Well, I've just realized that the real point of the giant snails is that they give the surface priests a ready source of giant pauldrons.

I pictured the refined metals being what the surfacers traded to the embers.

>>82432668
Problem is, how do the Cult refine the metal, that seems more in the Embers' wheelhouse. Also yes, pauldrons are mandatory

>>82435925
The metal is refined as part of the digestive process by the slugs.

>>82436894
I don't know enough about how metal refinement works to contest that but it doesn't seem right. IMO, it makes more sense for the cult to trade raw metal to the embers and the embers to trade refined metal back to the cult, gives a good explanation for what the Cult would actually *want* from the Embers.

>>82437498
Well, no, it isn't right. It is 110% science fantasy bullshit. But if that real sea snail can do the stuff with metal, maybe these can separate out silver from iron by putting it in different places on their body. Your raw metal for finished good s arrangement is perfectly sensible, and makes me think of the Admech.

>>82432668
>the real point of the giant snails is that they give the surface priests a ready source of giant pauldrons
Are the snailshells melted down and reforged, or do the priests just wear metal snailshells?

>>82438214
I'm imagining that they break out the interior, which they use in fragments like scale mail, and the biggest curve of the shell forms a natural pauldron. Exterior spiral intact because it's aesthetic.

>>82439051
>Exterior spiral intact because it's aesthetic.
Do we still have a drawfag in the thread?

>>82441543
give me a day

>>82443004
Artwork of Pet the Grotesque-ified Deadnought would also be neat.

>>82330143
Art source?

>>82446226
An anon from the previous thread

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Did we want to flesh out the other factions as well? Seems we've got a pretty hefty chunk of the iceworlders done and not much else

>>82454591
We did a shitton of deldar shit too. But I agree. Any ideas?

>>82456766
Maybe the Word Bearers warband, twisted to body horror levels as they are, are sorta vampire/werewolf looking? We could have the blood angel chapter be vampiric, though not twilight fuckery, I'm talking nosferatu shit here

>>82458103
But being twilight is the blood angel's whole thing. I'll take vampire/werewolf for the word beaters if it was the demonic style Dracula had in the third movie, so live a vampire demon. None of them being identical to each other, of course. Did anyone itt have a strong mental image of the chaos world? Share it.

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>>82458992
I'll post something- let's say that the chaos world has a bunch of floating continents- orbital plates essentially, lifted from the surface by warp energy. They're airless and their orbit is natural now, they were placed by the warp, they are not held up by it. Their orbits would deteriorate, but there's a giant volcano, which absolutely is warp-active, that spews up matter, water included, that hits the lowest, then the matter is deflected into another plate, and another, for however many plates we want to imagine. The system holds together like clockwork. The last plate puts the soot and ice on a trip back to the surface, where it spirals in as a deteriorating ring. All this is where the orbital warband lives. Rather than the mass the volcano ejects running our or lessening the mass of the planet, It's actually coming from the warp, and is adding to the planet and chocking the air. The eruptions are very loud. It's Krakoa every tide.

Sadistic space elves daddy

maybe the chaos world toxic stuff is coming from the core, could have been hit with a virus bomb a while back

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>>82458992
>it was the demonic style Dracula had in the third movie, so like a vampire demon
This, in power armor.

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>>82458992
The BL has the feudal half of the world, and AL have the feral half, which they use to stage their battle games at the expense of the humans living there. This could be the second or more runs of the game, with the last one resulting in near-total armageddon and the fallout sticking around well into the next run, giving it its toxic quality. I'd say the Black Legion has a massive stone fortress - sort of a Minas Tirith situation - that functions as a colossal altar to the gods, with some motte and baileys littered around a landscape that bubbles with dark waters and glitters with the glassed remains of the last generation. In an amusing twist on trope, the feudal villagers share their masters' twisted forms - maybe a chaosy version of werewolves if the Word Bearers are going for the strigoi aesthetic - and the Alpha Legion ferals are about as clean as you can get.

>>82469567
>I'd say the Black Legion has a massive stone fortress - sort of a Minas Tirith situation - that functions as a colossal altar to the gods
that's something the word bearers use in their omnibus, by the way. It's called a Gehemehnet tower for such purposes.

>>82470217
I've read it, and enjoyed the description, even if the books themselves were fairly clumsy. Black Crusade also has Dark Apostles I think with rules for a similar construction.

>>82470265
The second book with the Dark Eldar was the best (obviously) but the first and third fell into the trap of using fighting as filler and got repetitive quickly. They'd be much better if they were each scout 20% shorter.

>>82469080
>>82469567

I meant to say "third Blade movie"

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>>82469567
>In an amusing twist on trope, the feudal villagers share their masters' twisted forms - maybe a chaosy version of werewolves if the Word Bearers are going for the strigoi aesthetic

>>82472124
I don't know that I needed to see that.

Let's have iron feathered eagles that shoot their feathers, that's always fun.

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>>82330167
>>82330180
It seems that you’ve flipped the traditional stereotypes of the Black Legion seeing Chaos only as a tool and the Word Bearers worshipping it above all else. What does your Word Bearer splinter think of Lorgar, Erebus, Kor Phaeron, and the Dark Council?

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>>82474674
Probably NOT on good terms. I mean these are super apostate. What even drives people who have lost everything, even their souls, or given it all away, in service to something away from that thing? Have they flayed their skins to get ride of the scripture? Is it always growing back because they donkt get to just walk away? Are the flayed strips blowing in the wind across their territory?

Let's include talking ambulls on the world. Still man-eaters.