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let's add highwaymen as a hazard in the Blind Bastard's Domain

>>85034645
are we gonna have guns in any form?
it defiantly can't be common cause that would break lore, but I could see a few guns getting approved as legendary/magical items

>>85034645
There are probably bandits in most regions.

Highwaymen of that particular style are probably present anywhere with the appropriate aesthetics and tech levels

>>85034823
the landsknechts that fight for the seven barones have

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Some lore for the Lemon kingdom and Lorient on their relationship, and how the former became a vassal of the latter

The Lemon Kingdom, or Limonaint as it is called in Lorient was long both a rival and trading partner of the Lorientain kings. Buying lemons and other fruits from the area, first in its era as a duchy, and later as a kingdom, was a must for any lorientain noble or merchant wanting to impress. In return Limonaint received iron, fish, and goods bought from far shores from Lorient. The trade was often disrupted by Lorientain nobles or kings claiming land to the north, and many a war has been fought between the two, though these wars often took the theatrical form of Lorientain civil conflict, often being more mock-battlea than real war. The cycle of war and trade was finally broken when king Guille of the Lemon kingdom died without an heir, and through the complicated system of succession, the throne went to the crown prince of Lorient, Guidon, later Guidon III. From then on the Limonaint has been a vassal state of Lorient, with the crown prince traditionally holding the title "Lord-regent of the Lemon Kingdom"

>>85034823
Rifles and cannons have been mentioned on a few occasions.

Maybe we should just say they are extremely primitive versions of blackpowder weapons that don't work well.

Or maybe gunpowder doesn't exist/is very rare and making equivalent substances via alchemy/magic is expensive and inferior to cheaper magic wands and other such items, so guns are only viable in certain regions.

>Things that can be done right away.
-Creating the world’s cosmogony and ancient history.
-The Day/Night Cycle, seasons, sea currents…
-Giantstep’s mythology and religions.
-Creation of a magical system.
-Adding more lore to the more lacking spots (politics, culture, economy, characters…).
-More underground lore.
-Writing the 13 Wonders of the World and 13 Horrors of the World.
-Current history/politics of every nation.
-Current world villains/wars/other threats...
-Bestiary (Land/Sea/Underground...).
-Herbarium (Land/Sea/Underground...).
-List of sapient species.
-Highly detailed maps for every major area in the world.

>Things that need something else done before starting them.
-Political map with cities, nation's capitals, main roads and trade routes [needs finishing the clean political map, more lore written and combine them all with the physical map]
-A general timeline of the world [we need lore about the World’s Creation, how long its ancient history lasts, match the timeline of the different nations so they do not overlap…]
-Making an astrological star map [needs finishing the world’s day/night cycle, cosmogony…]
-Making a map for monster territories [we need the bestiary and the biome map done]
-Map of alliances, peace treaties and wars [we need the clean political map and much more lore]
-Military power ranking [much, much more lore]

Anything else?

>>85034914
I'd say they're common but ineffective
what with magic and whatnot

>>85034837
>appropriate aesthetics and tech levels

Which nations would those be?

>>85036788
Probably somewhere in the northwest, they seem the most Western-European inspired region so far, and they are confirmed to have at least some guns.

>>85035839
There is an eternal state of war between the Tolbari Tribes and the Bhakkari Tribes.

The Necromancer beneath the cursed battlefield and the Bog Witch have come to an agreement to not interfere with each other's plans. The Necromancer has given the witch the eye of Erelyn as part of this agreement.

The Necromancer has a lieutenant named Khazgul that is a shapeshifting demon summoned from the abyss.

The Necromancer has three disciples(Tevak, Selia, and Olrau), who all have their own hidden strongholds.

The stronghold of Tevak the Holy(so named mockingly, for he once was a priest) is located within a mountain in the middle finger of the hand-shaped mountain range that surrounds the giant handprint desert, trying to find a dragon to trick, kill, and reanimate.

Selia, illusionist and necromancer, is hidden in plain sight, creating a cult in the city of Fenqui, capital of the Changrila Empire.

Olrau, warrior and dabbler in blood magic, lurks in the forests of Faarowt. There he leads a bandit army and secretly captures creatures for his collection.

>>85035839
One of thethirteen wonders of the world is most certainly the Quartz tower of Florinth, which is so symbolically important that it is forbidden for any to enter unless for an important ceremony. It was constructed by the third son of the founder of Florinth, to honor his father's legacy with a glowing beacon, to symbolize all that the city could be. It is three hundred feet tall and thirty feet in diameter, with a seventy-faceted sapphire the size of a man resting upon the peak of its conical roof. Each year, on the day that its construction ended, the light of the morning sun shining through the sapphire hits the statue that was once at the center of the city before it's great expansion.

The foul lair of the necromancer is a horror to behold indeed. The castle's many chambers are home to all sorts of creatures twisted from what once were human forms. There are many rooms where the walls ooze blood so that it might flow into another to be absorbed and returned, done only to see if it could be done. The room of faces is where the relics of dark sorcery are stored. The ice halls hold many people, heroes and peasants and nobles alike, frozen but still alive. They shall likely never escape their waking nightmare, for the magic of this accursed place keeps them very, very aware.

>>85037946
*It's construction was ordered by the third son, he obviously did not make it himself.

% change of magick gene
boy baby
both parents=40%
father=15%
mother=5%
girl bab
both parents=25%
father=2%
mother=7.5%
you can use rituals and blessings to reduce the % amount
only gods interfering with fate can increase the % for a birth
magick is 'mostly' inherited from the parent with the same sex
sometimes people can go their whole life without knowing they are able to do it, as use of magick is difficult to teach, and only sometimes lashes out when the user is in extreme distress - but not necessarily in a useful way because they dont know how to use it, i.e. magick gened person being tortured by gnolls might make a candlestick 50 yards away float instead of helping them escape

maybe there can be 'magick hunters' that misunderstand the inheritance and roam the lands and attempt to find children that have the ability by getting them to attempt basic spells

added stuff from the last thread to the wiki

>>85038781
The tribespeople of the Bhakkari Tribelands are already pact based casters.

>>85038832
their magic is granted by their totem
tear the bond or destroy the totem and there is no ability
this is more of a patron granting magic that innate ability to perform
even then this type of bond can be limited to the tribespeople
there are some true users amongst them but not many

>>85038792
Did you add the tale of the universe's creation?

>>85034498

Here's a World Horror idea. It probably sucks and I have no idea where it would go, but here it is:
>The Tower of Song
>The shattered ruins of a tower from where the Undying Chorus menaced the land. Their song may have fallen silent after their containment, but the land surrounding the Tower has forever been changed. The only constant in the stories of those that return is the oppressive silence that blankets this forsaken place. Heaven save the land if, one day, some poor soul heard a forlorn voice on the wind.
R8 & H8 my terrible lore.

Did we reach a consendus about the way the stairs world works?

>>85039332
straight line, infinite steps
finite stars and moons that stay above the steps

the circular stairs undermines the giant's journey up, so we use the straight line instead

the different sized suns and moons give different harvests and tides as they pass over this step and into the next step up

>>85040193
I don't think we agreed on that. I still prefer the circular stairs

The maneater islands seem comfy, what happens there

>>85040907
Anon, they're cannibals... did you miss the Maneater part?

>>85040460
then the giant has no journey and the whole mythology has to be scrapped

>>85040907
maneating

>>85041289
we haven't agreed an any mythology either

>>85040460
>>85041289
circular staircase could exist in the world as a monument/spiritual landmark to represent the peoples' hope for a neverending existence
an illusion propped up by druids or even a permanent kink in the physical laws of the ether could make this landmark happen
ultimately the last sun must pass over the step and never return, leaving this plane in darkness

>>85041324
steps for the cosmic giant were introduced in the first thread
the handprint desert was made by the giant

>>85034823
I think having Matchlocks or very primitive gunpowder weaponry sounds fair. We've seen some full on pirate ships so it must be at least fairly common among humans.

>>85041369
don't mountain hobbits have head on machine guns

>>85041264
no

Are there anything on the Lost Island?

>>85038781
>Certain nations/organization probably have ways to locate those with magic potential for recruitment/conscription into their organizations

>>85041379
I think it is just blunderbusses and maybe muskets

>>85041357
this does not contradict a circular staircase

>>85041607
Do you mean The Lost Isle?

It is a mysterious island home to the ruins of a lost civilization with untold riches. No one has successfully located it during an expedition, but occasionally ships stumble upon it while lost.

There are several different potential backgrounds hinted at for the lost civilization.

>>85035839
I only know a bit of lore, but I do know a few things regarding Witchelven politics. I know that Snorath country is more of less considered useless by them, that they're trading with the bog witches (mainly Baba Lustra) for rare ogre sex slaves, and the nation to the direct south of them they're certainly not trading with.
Also, in case you forgot, I did most of the world's sea-based trade routes already (or at least a mock-up of them).

Are we going to do the Bestiary and the Herbarium as a wiki page or as a pdf?

>>85041765
>rare ogre sex slaves
That's wrong the ogres are used as brothel guards

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>>85041784
It's been a while since I looked at the lore, ok?

>>85041803
What's that? A trade route for ants?

>>85035839
>Anything else?
We could always use some more Bobbitposting

>>85041857
seconded

>>85041850
This ain't squid island.

>>85041707
>giant climbs to the heavens
>going in circles
hmm

>>85035815
Someone really needs to redo this map

>>85035410
>>85035780
>>85041803
What program are you guys using to make maps?

>>85041898
the og post did not say that the giant was going to heaven

>>85041909
gimp

>>85041909
I made >>85035780 >>85035815 >>85035822 with Photoshop.

>>85041904
I agree, but for now I'm focused on the underground and other stuff. The only big thing remaining of the biome map is to make it look more professional.

I want to create a CK2 or EU4 mod out of this

>>85040907
gonna write this later

>>85042023
why CK2 not 3? Anyway have fun Anon, post it here once done

>>85041957
People should probably review the biome map one last time before it gets cleaned up. For example:

- Forest of Getting Lost doesn't extend as far west as it should
- Drouchont, Lumberling Grove, and Dia'ul should be forest (maybe make the section of Dia'ul closest to the mountains taiga instead)
- Chill Steppes and Frost Lands should probably be tundra (due to magic cold climate)
- Maybe rethink the Mediterranean climate on the east coast, most of those areas were originally meant to be fairly unpleasant, maybe switch to meadows

>>85042520
seconded

also, are the only black people in this setting the Nosso Lar and the savannah people?

>>85042628
The Zulutaurs were also blacks

What kind of Elves were the Western Elven Empire? What are we drawing inspiration from with them and where did they go?

>>85038781
I like the magick hunters. Why is the overall chance lower for a female child? That is usually not useful for a gene.

>>85041289
Consider that the circular stairs are moving throughout the stars whether the giant is or is not moving on its own. Although I believe the straight staircase is better.

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>>85041850
TF? Why is it so small? Ok, lemme try that again.

>>85043001
It could be that the staircase has a teleportation so that the giant is forever journeying upwards?

>>85041909
I didn't make any of the maps, I just put down the trade routes.

Are there any unstable regions? I'm planning of adding a breakaway state.

>>85041850
Fixed it, here's where it is.
>>85043013

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If the Witchelven don't mind going through Snoloth Country (cus last I checked the lore's a little iffy on the subject) then they might also get some ogres from Baba Yuma.

>>85042744
the zulutaurs arent humans though

that's like calling the witch elves white people

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>>85041957
>make it look more professional.
This and I'd change the color pallet to something like this. It's just a little easier on the eye

>>85042023
>>85042371
Paradox games are far too ambitious for a setting that's in its infacy and has a lot of weird shit going on. A more doable mod would be in Civ V, since that could only include a couple of civs taken from the setting (Like Avangar, Azan etc) and would require little effort comparetively.

>>85043099
The Wiki says that there's a large buffer zone, so I guess that's not the case.

>>85041957
>>85043120
idk I think the political map being more professional and easier on the eye should be more of a priority, since it's the map 99% of people are going to view the most

>>85043134
that's true but isn't paintanon already working on that?

>>85041777
Seconding this question. Is they wiki guy still around?

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>>85043144
I think so but we haven't seen progress in a couple of threads

>>85043155
the herbarium is in the wiki and there is a page for sea creatures although idk about the rest of the monsters, I think they're getting added to their respective nation pages

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>>85043157
that's true aswell. hopefully he hasn't lost interest

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>>85043165
>the herbarium is in the wiki
Based thanks for including it. I feel like there should be a singular Bestiary page aswell. Ideally with hotlinks to their respective habitats/nations. Every good setting should have one. I feel like the 1st ed' monster manual was arguably the heart of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j52_r_1Rmy8&list=RDMM&index=10

Aine Saevherne theme

>>85042628
There are also black people indigenous to the Kinalonga Island, and probably other parts of the Eldritch Jungle as well, likely the coastal areas at minimum, even if the central parts are too dangerous.

There are also some people in the Terrania Free Holds with dark skin, but it is unclear if that is there original skin color, or it is a result of hybridizing with tree spirits.

Blind Bastard’s Domain (original inhabitants), Nosso Lar, Mumak, Bakir, Jeraxih, and Chakobsa are a bit ambiguous. There could also be some co-habitating the lands of the meteorite people, zulutaurs, and badger people.

>>85042812
Western Elven Empire first appeared on a map in the second thread of Ancient Empires. Unclear what the anon intended it to be. When I wrote the Drow lore, I assumed it was meant to be a long lost empire, but maybe it was just a reference to the unified Drow nation before it split up. Too late now to fix it though, I have made numerous references in the history of western nations to the Western Elven being a wood/primal elf nation that got gradually overrun by Azan. There is also now a Second Western Elven Empire since another anon thought the Western Elven Empire was the drow, and used that interpretation for one of the regions he wrote up.

>>85043434
Bakir and Mumak seem to be ambiguous middle eastern people, maybe closer to persians or afghans?

chakobsa and jeraxih seem aztec/mayan too

I think one anon said that dsrvyth are a mix of african/greek and asvaran something similar, although I'm not sure now

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>>85034498
>Herbarium edition
obligatory

>>85043434
Basically the history goes:

1) First Western Elven Empire (wood/primal elves, probably with some allies)

2) Azan Empire (who shared it with the dwarves)

3) Second Western Elven Empire (Drow)

>>85043457
What's it's name, where does it grow and what does it do?

>>85043459
4) Drow confederacy

5) Drow city states

what was the extent of these empires? Did the first elven empire cover the drow lands or just the northwestern area?

>>85043478
>>85043459
What about the (Southwestern) Dragon Empire? Could it be that it co-existed with the First Western Elven Empire, and both of those split into the Second Western Elven Empire (Drow) and the Azan Empire?

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>>85043450
Personally I want to reduce the patchwork nature of the setting a bit and not have so many races living side by side in isolation from each other.

Maybe the Blind Bastard's domain indigenous inhabitants, Mumak, Bakir, and Nosso Lar can be a mix of African and Sumerian (from Gilgamash), while Chakobsa and Jeraxih are the same, plus a very strong Asian lineage due to ancient horde conquests.

>>85043478
I figure pic related from the second thread shows the max extent of the First Western Elven Empire.

>>85043500
I consider the Dragon Empire and the Azan Empire to be interchangeable. At its peak, the Dragon/Azan Empire ruled over everything shown on the map as Dragon and Western Elf, but started falling apart after the Drow showed up.

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Currently editing the Herbarium wiki page. Feel free to join in! Are there any plants, trees or mushrooms that I've missed?
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Herbarium
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Herbarium
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Herbarium

>>85043697
lullaby trees and the white death plant seem important

https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Swaying_Meadows?so=search
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Moreelese?so=search

>>85043697
The trees of life are relevant here.
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/The_Neeugs

>>85043765
>>85043776
Thanks! Got a picture of what the White Death Plant or the Trees of Life look like?

>>85043664
I think the elf empire should extent to the northwest, given its the homeland of the wood elves

did the dragon and the first elven empire break up at the same time?

>>85043664
The khenomeric Empire was smaller than the Gnoll Empire, but holy fuck you made it waaaaaaayy to big even if you want it to be large.

>>85043664
zemyland should be split between the hyperboreans, the aine saevherne and the alltaf tribes (who may be under the hyperboreans, idk)

>>85036788
Azan has Greco-Roman empire aesthetics with Rural Chinese characteristics, InGurLand has Northern English aesthetics, Moonlit shores have moon elfs with high tech, republic of abandoned automata have postapocalypse gundam aesthetics, Kingdom of Drunigzar is el conquistador, Lands of the Star People have alien cow herder aesthetics

>>85043765
>>85043776
Added to https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Herbarium
Any other flora that is missing?

>>85043946
>Lands of the Star People have alien cow herder aesthetics
Alien 'Merican Cowboys. It's the Wild West but with Roswell aliens.

>>85043805
>I think the elf empire should extent to the northwest, given its the homeland of the wood elves
The Elves could have had more than one Empire, in fact I kind of assumed the Lands Behind the Hedge were a separate entity even back then.

>did the dragon and the first elven empire break up at the same time?
First Western Elven Empire was conquered/assimilated into the Dragon/Azan Empire sometime after its depiction in this map.

>>85043851
I didn't make the map, someone else made it way back on thread 2

>>85043860
Makes sense

>>85043946
>Azan has Greco-Roman empire aesthetics with Rural Chinese characteristics
I think it is more Byzantine with some Japanese Samurai and Italian Renaissance crossover.

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visualization for the sausage trees on glutton island

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>>85043697
let me add some:
>Oderica Pine
Also called black pine or rock pine, the Oderica pine is a species of pine tree well known for it's incredibly deep roots and thick black bark. It's native range stretches from the Scabbard Range through all of greater Azan and ends at the Oront mountains and Gommorah breach. Oderica pines mature in 3 years and can reach up to 50 meters, though they rarely achieve that size outside of their native are in the Scabbard range.

Due to its attractive dark green foliage and black bark this species is often used as decoration, likea in the well known Black Rock Garden of the Imperial palace in Nananikor, a quiet plantation of pines in the middle of the palace the emprors have traditionally used as a place of rest and meditation. The oldest known Oderica pine is said to lie in the courtyard of castle Essakor, the old capital of Azan.

In Furlaniya Oderica pines are of great cultural, economic and religious importance as they are one of the only shade-giving trees that can thrive on the large kasrtic plateau that makes up most of the region. In Furlaniyan tradition, the pine was brought to the region by Santa Oderica (hence the name) after a mythical cataclysm killed off all other trees in the region. Every year in early fall, the Furlaniyans celebrate the feast day of Santa Oderica, the feast dedicated to the saint and the tree she brought. During the festivities it is customary to plant as many Oderica pines as the village had newborns in the previous year while young boys and girls dress all in white and escort the "Odericinna", a young girl covered from head to toe with pine branches around every household in the village. Every family must gift something to the procession, most usually pastry rolls or pine liqueur, and in exchange the Odericinna blesses the family with good health and fertility for the coming year.

>>85043982
Yes, there's the Oromian blue banana.
>The Oroma islands are the home ofa species of large blue banana that thrives on the island's rich volcanic soil. The banana is extremely poisonous and thus of great interest to the Drow which often organise expeditions to the islands to bring back the fruit, though most are unsuccessful. All attempts so far to grow the banana on foreign shores have miserably failed.

>>85044183
Added! Love the lore! The photo feels a little out of place though since all the other images are illustrations. Got a drawn or painted one?
>>85044205
Added! Got image?

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>>85044183
>Wild Swamp Onion
The swamp onion, is a coarse plant of meadows and swamps, with flowers of purple, lavender, or white. It is a robust wild plant found in abundance from the Sytmphalian swamps all up to the swamps of Sadness. Although not considered one of the best for cultivation, it's ubiquity in the wild and strong onion flavour make it a staple vegetable amongst the miserable human serfs of the Bog Witch as well as any other inhabitant of the swamps.

>>85044310
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>>85043470
No idea. Nobody solved Voynich Manuscript.

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>>85044239
After some searching, this could do.

I think there where laughably large carrots mentioned somewhere in the Bobbit tale. Anyone wanny do some writing on them so they can get added to the wiki? Ideally the anon that came up with them

>>85044407
nice thanks anon it's going up asap!

>>85044239
>The photo feels a little out of place though since all the other images are illustrations. Got a drawn or painted one?
You could always run images through a filter

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>>85044558
Hey you're right.

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>>85044692

>>85037946
This is a world wonder and a world horror, correct?

>>85044692
>>85044732
Looks pretty good pal! Added them to the wiki. What program is this?

world horror

a city that is mysteriously expanding without anyone living in it

wombo art is so fucking good

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>>85044310
>Black Stallion Grape
Black stallion grape is a red grape variety that originates from the wine-growing region south of the Pommel mountains. It is believed to be closely related to the wild Kratovyan grape that can be found all along the Scabbard range.

It is the most planted grape variety in Azan, used to make traditional Azanese Mavrokrasí wine. Black stallion is also considered the most important grape variety in Furlaniya and one of the most important in the Shangrila Empire. It is also grown in regions of the Lemon Kingdom and Ögchuk fiefdoms.

Black stallion berries are large and deeply coloured, with its dark berries growing on vigorous vines. Depending on the area, this harvest can begin from early fall and continue into later months in more southerly areas..

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>>85043798
white death plant

working on big rock candy mountain ecological map and the surrounding area

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MANEATER ISLANDS


Island (1) is known as Lekhes. It's inhabited by a party of rogue ChangriLese mercenaries, who are hostile to Big Sopho's men and other pirates. One can find mysterious statues of orangutans scattered around the island, although no one knows who built them and for what reason.

Islands 2, 3 and 4 are known as Axe Isle, Black Tear Renato island. Ferocious hurricanes are common there, as well sand fleas that can quickly eat the skin of anyone not wearing approriate protection. They are under the de-facto rule of Corsair King Big Sopho, a black skinned pirate who's thick as a bear and tall as a tiger. Big Sopho was a crewmate of the last Maneater Isles Pirate King, earning a reputation as a "gentle giant". He earned the respect of his crewmates when he was able to single-handedly defeat 5 cutthroats that were out to kill him, with nothing but his bare hands. Many trading posts are set up in their shores and caves and secret operations are ongoing deep in the jungles.

Island (5) is known as the Isle of Toads. It's inhabited by a mysterious species of huge toads that are able to mimic human speech. Those toads live in boggy waters and deep rivers and sing enchanting songs during the night.

Island (6) is known as Fallgrim. The town of Ortega lies in its northern shore. It's a town ruled by its mayor, Art Jota. It's the only town that's free of any pirate's rule, and it's been established as a neutral ground between warring pirates and other undesirable criminals. It also houses a former slave refugee deep in the jungle, so many slavers make their way to Fallgrim, looking for their escaped slaves.

>>85045453
So we have an Ortuga and an Ortega? Might get a bit confusing, we will probably have to be careful with this one

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Island (7) is called the Bloedzuiger Island. It's filled with bogs and bleak, steep cliffs. It's inhabited by bloodworms, grotesque leech-like monsters that walk on two legs who pour acid on the wounds of their living prey, in order to digest their intestines and liver. Despite that, it's populated by a certain tribe from the Badgassi lands, whom the other pirates call simply "The Skinners", due to their habits of skinning their victims and making cloaks and bandanas out of their skin. People usually avoid Bloedzuiger, and for good reason.

Island (8), also known as the Basilisk Isle, is the second largest island of the archipelago, and also the most populous one. Its the only island that has mantained a steady population thoughout the years, its inhabitants not wiped out by diseases, slavers or pirate raids. Rainforests and hills cover the island, in which live dreaded cockatrices and basiliks, some even reaching the size of a large horse.

Island (9) is known as Segador. Corsair towns and pirate lairs have sprang up, being abandoned not long after. Witnesses have claimed that its haunted by a monster that takes the form of a cloud of black smoke. It's said that the Monster makes a variety of peculiar sounds -- two of the most distinctive being a mechanical clicking and a loud high-pitched warning or alarm call. It holds enormous strength, capable of knocking down buildings and trees with ease, and it's only limited somewhat by large bodies of water.

Island (10) is known as Florana. It was the first island that people from Dsrvysth set their foot in, who subsequently named the whole archipelago off the many species of hideous plants that seemingly feast on human (and other mammal's) flesh. These plants can be either restricted to the ground or either appear as vines that use camouflage in order to ambush and consume unsuspecting travellers. Despite that, many outspots and strange ruins are located in Florana.

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>>85043697
I Had some ideas

Sugar Cane and Powder Cane

Regular Sugarcane: the plant we all love and adore its origins can be traced back to the eldritch jungle but can be found in small numbers in the realm of the Bog witch. One of the most common variants so they can be found all over the place in small plantations but these are often short lived and die out after 3 or 5 generations due to mishandling, Florinth has the greatest monopoly of sugar canes and use the extracted sugar in their cuisine mainly making sweet pastries. The second greatest producer of it was the Azan empire for roughly less than a century ( around 600 years ago) before their greatest fields have been burned down accidentaly, legends say spies from Changrila burned it down out of jealousy who knows for sure? around the same time they finaly extracted something akin to fuel from it.

Powder Cane:
Odd entry in the family and possibly the most sought after one because the extract is not exactly sugar instead some form of biological gunpowder. Again it originates from the eldritch Jungle but can be found naturaly in the realm of the bog witch nobody knows how these plants got there in the first place but they are there.
Raising them is cumbersome harvesting them is complicated. Because of the difficulities producing them in great quantities is near impossible only Changrila could produce them in a number that it can be used but still its too small, only the most elite units have acces to the powder. Myth goes that Changrila originaly wanted the regular one but by mistake they got the Powder Cane.

>>85045532
We can call it Omerta instead

>>85045453
I also forgot that Ortega/Omerta is known for its brothels and brawling competitions. The pirate lords respect Major Jota's rule and provided services. One can find many card and table games from all around the world played in its busy taverns.

>>85045636
Florana is currently ruled by Aurélien Chastang, a fearsome corsair from Lorient. He is handsome and thin, with silver-gold hair and grey-green eyes. He is styling himself as "Lord of the Waters". He used to be the Royal Admiral of the Lorientais navy, although he escaped with the fleet and set himself up in the Maneater Isles. He's in a quarrel with Big Sopho and other pirate captains.

>>85045532
>>85045783
Countries with similar names happens all the time, having one or two isn't an issue i think. It means our setting has its own version of the Austrian vs. Australian joke.

>>85045636
>>85045453
one more added to the "expanded lore" list, good job anon

Which is the most scientifically advanced nation?

>>85046356
The Kingdom of Tarot, Biblion and the Astromancers

We need more maps like this one:
>>85025361

>>85046712
I can post the gimp file with all the assets if you want

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>>85044875
The dead city is an accursed place. Located in the Cursed Battlefield, its inhabitants have been dead for centuries. But it still grows, consuming more and still more bodies from the endless mountains of them, tearing the stones from the ground and shaping them. Any unfortunate enough to be there will be shredded and repurposed to build.

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>>85034498
>Stinkshroom
The Stinkshroom or puffball farter emits a foul-smelling gas together with its scattered spores in the wind to reproduce. The scientific name for these are Chontrokoritsiperdons. The smell is comparable to that of the Fart Daisies but ten times worse. So bad in fact that the faint-hearted will faint from the smell. The Stinkshrooms grow throughout the Witch Bogs and are particularly common in the Bog of Eternal Stench.

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>>85043697
>Cannibal Orchid
The Cannibal Orchid or Venustrap, appears to offer the promise of sex: parts of the plant have evolved to resemble attractive females of the human species. The mimicry is near perfect. The pseudo-copulation strategy of this carnivorous orchid species enables it to lure in male prey. By the time they realize the unfortunate position they have put themselves into by getting too close to the plant, it is already too late. The trap snaps shut and the razor-sharp, thorny teeth of the fleshy leaf outgrowths, which are located around the bait like a rosette, pierce the victim's flesh and make any movement impossible. After this, digestive fluids are secreted and the mauled prey is slowly decomposed. After the body has fully digested, the woman-shaped fruiting body withers and the plant "spits out" a skull-sized seed from which a new cannibal orchid can grow. The force with which this seed is shot out of the plant is so great that it can fly up to 300 meters away. The plant then slowly opens up again regrows it's bait and is ready for a new meal. The carnivorous plant loves warm habitats with frequent rain showers and has been sighted in the Badgassi jungles, on Bloedzuiger Island and in the Eldritch rainforest even if it is relatively seldom to be found there. The Cannibal Orchid is most common in the moist jungles on the island of Ortuga where she is said to have widowed countless women

>>85043001
straight staircase is better. circular/infinite staircase makes for good heresy.

Mg'umba the moon that lingers could be influencing the creation of infinity cults that want to force the staircase into a loop.

>>85043434
>There are also some people in the Terrania Free Hold
Thats predominantly woodland spirits trying to mimic people though. Per OG lore anyways.

>>85043664
>not have so many races living side by side in isolation from each other.
You'd be surprised and possibly disappointed at how isolationist people were IRL historically. Trade routes and cities had some intermingling of populations but the majority of the world has been isolationist and or xenophobic to some degree for most of human history. Merchants, soldiers and criminals make up the majority of those who traveled any great distances.

>>85043434
>but it is unclear if that is there original skin color, or it is a result of hybridizing with tree spirits.
Both? But also spirits who perfect their mimicry becoming mostly human over time.

>>85034498
>says no fetishes
>opens with fart daisies
make up your mind

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>>85043697
>Blue Cedar
Also know as the sweet cedar and the southern cedar, the blue cedar is a species of tree whose range extends from the kingdom of Azhar Nar, along the Huan-Ho-Sei Sea and down into the Brumgull steppe. Blue cedars very rarely grow above 30 meters, but are well known for their huge trunks which can measure more than 3 meters in diameter. The cedars usually form forests on mountainsides and hill slopes, with a preference for coastal areas. The species is very tolerant of dry and hot conditions and their forests provide valuable shade in otherwise desert conditions.
The blue cedar is well known for its abundant and sweet resin which was used in ancient times to preserve mummies. Explorers and looters of ancient tombs and caves report the smell of blue cedar resin can linger for millennia, so much so that the smell of blue cedars underground has become something of a folk legend indicating spirits of the dead are present nearby.

>>85045783
>We can call it Omerta instead

Is there a fantasy version of LCN there?

>>85044161
why have sausage trees when you could have cattails with sausages on the end

>>85043988
cool!

>>85043946
So InGurLand is the best bet for stereotypical human16th century highwaymen?

What happens in Sniden

>>85048615
[Verse 1]
As I was a goin' over the far famed Kerry mountains
I met with Captain Farrell and his money he was counting
I first produced my pistol and I then produced my rapier
Saying "stand and deliver" for he were a bold deceiver

>>85048615
It's literally a country of Orks

>>85048868
oh wow lol

>>85048868
>
so yes

is the anon who made the CoA here?

>>85049360
The what?

any dms out there willing to host a game in this setting when its done?

>>85049360
Yes

>>85047806
get the stick out of your ass

>>85047620
>straight staircase is better.
nope

friendly reminder that everyone can edit the wiki

>>85049973
>>85049965
>>85049956
what are you on about

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>>85049977

>>85049360
source?

>>85048368
Why would that be better?

map anon pls make the area around moreelse bog/swamp

>>85050349
why don't you make it yourself?

>>85050413
>>85049973
>>85049965
>>85049956

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>>85050459
>gets told to contribute to the project instead of begging others to do so
>surely it must be some evil guy conspiring against me
get real.

>>85050459
lmao

>>85044871
Wombo dream

>>85050688
thanks!

>>85050349
> do the stuff I want for me
we're at the stage of the project where these types are starting to show up, huh

what happened to the avatarfrag from the previous threads?

>>85051893
Hopefully killed himself, or atleast taken his meds.

yooo paint.anon where you at

>>85047652
>You'd be surprised and possibly disappointed at how isolationist people were IRL historically.
But people who live near each other often shared ancestors if you went back far enough, you rarely had a white nation, a black nation, and an asian nation right next to each other with little intermingling.

Instead you had invasions and migrations of technologically superior peoples who generally intermingled with the people they conquered.

>>85047806
A lot of stuff in the setting is somewhat fetish-y, but we draw the line at mpreg

Which place has the most political plotting and intrigue?

>>85035815
There should be larger sections of forest in the middle-east of the continent

>>85052932
The Orange Marquissates is a good candidate for that.

>>85053164
what are their relations with the neighboring nations?

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A large-ish tropical island of the coast of the Eldritch Jungle that was the site of a meteor crash, out of which poured a scortching hot, alien techno-organic miasma that consumed everything in its path. It's actually a clump of strange femtotech that attacks and modifies atomic nuclei into exotic, non-atomic forms, realeasing a great amount of energy in the process.

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>>85053388
Being within a 20 ft distance of such a creature without strong magical shielding is enough to slowly turn any creature into a hostile aberration, and the planet would probably have months of life should the miasma ever infect the mainland. Fortunately, the mystical properties of the ocean are seemingly a complete anathema to the alien lifeform's existance and mere contact with saltwater is enough to dissolve it and render it inert.

If you could retcon one thing from this setting, what would it be?

>>85054192
The piss forest, it's one of those fetish things that should have been stopped from getting in

>>85054270
but where would the piss wizard live then?

>>85054294
He would reside in the nightmares and dreams of Giantstep's denizens. Some would consider his presence in your mind a omen of fortune, but others consider his arrival a promise of future suffering.

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>History

The city was founded somewhere after the dissolution of the Second Western Elven Empire. It was mostly inhabited by humans, although it was under the rule of the Drow, under the Drow Conderacy at the time. Even though most of the humans in Moreelse were not actual slaves, they were still second-hand citizens, not enjoying many of the liberties and luxuries of their overlords.

Once internal strife broke the Confederacy apart, giving its place to several independent Drow City-States, the humans of Moreelse rebelled, killing many of the stationed Drow. They used that opportunity to form their own government that was composed of a council that included the city's most influential nobles, as well as the Hierarch that represented the clergy. And thus, the Free City of Moreelse was born.

Things were going smoothly, with Moreelse building many alliances with the other human states of the West. It all changed overnight, however, when a ship carrying a group of exiled alchemists and pyromancers from Arangea crashed on its shores.

This group, known as the "Hydra's Eyes", was formed by a Nasrian pyromancer known as Javed, who had made his way to the Alchemists Guild in Arangea. His revolutionary ideas and experiments with fire magic earned him a sizable number of followers, forming the infant version of the Hydra's Eyes organization as we know it today.

Javed and his followers were soon exiled by the guild and the city of Arangea, citing that his thoughts had grown too wild, dangerous and uncontrollable. However, all changed when the ship that was carrying them to the Oroma Islands was taken off course by a terrible storm just south of the Land of Storms.

Finding themselves in Moreelse, the Hydra's Eyes soon fled to its sewers and secret tunnels, initially bribing the guards and nobles against the Arangean hunters that were after them.

>>85054270
>>85054294
I think it got retconned as a forest where when the leaves turn yellow it reminds the scatological humor obsessed inhabitants of piss

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>>85054379
However, their syndicate grew rapidly. They formed a cooperative relationship with the city's clergy, adopting their religion of the Cleansing Flame and using them as a body of protection, while they got rid of the problematic individuals that the Cleansing Flame priests couldn't take care of themselves due to the lack of jurisdiction.

The Hydra's Eyes turned from rogue crime syndicate to a powerful organization when one of their alchemists found a particularly interesting plant while in an expedition in the Kinnog jungle. The Hydra's Eyes were able to extract a powder from their leaves, turning it into a narcotic called "The White Death".

The syndicate quickly spread the use of this narcotic throughout the west, nowadays its widespread in Arangea, Hithlone, the Drow city states, the Sea Elves, ChangriLa, Gvilderstaaten, Ampleazzo, Zapalovah and of course, Moreelse. The Hydra's Eyes got the nobility of Moreelse addicted to the White Death, which they use as leverage, turning them into their puppets.

Nowadays the Hydra's Eyes are virtually untouchable in Moreelse, and spine-chilling rumours float around its Underworld.. It's said that the Hydra's Eyes scientists have gotten even bolder, conducting abominable experiments beyond the boundaries of science, turning men and dogs into beastly, mindless mutants for use in their legions, and conjuring forbidden insectoid creatures, like the terrible Koschey.

>Geography

Moreelse sits in the shore of Lake Moreelse, in the valley of the Isaarn River. Many murky bogs and swamps surround the countryside of Moreelse, although most of them have been dried out by now. North of the city, in the middle of a larges wamp, lies an Old Manor surrounded by a huge cemetary. Although considered as haunted by the locals, it's said that the Hydra's Eyes conduct their most terrifying experiments there.

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>>85054598
>Religion

The Cleansing Flame is worshipped in Moreelse. It's said that it derives from an ancient Drow deity, from when these humans where under their Empire, although that connection has been lost now.

The Clergy is headed by an Hierarch, who holds a spot in the city's council, along its nobles. Worshippers of the Cleansing Flame believe in the undying flame as a symbol of survival and a guide through darkness. They view it as a harbinger of progress and better days to come.

This religion's influence rose rapidly after the arrival of the Hydra's Eyes, and they soon established a knightly order, the Order of the Illuminatus. The primary purposes of the Order are to defend the downtrodden from evil and spread the belief in the Cleansing Flame, but they also serve as a police force or an iron fist to hunt down heretics. The Order considers practicioners of magic - apart from Pyromancy - as evil. They also are extremely hostile to non-humans, as many businesses owned by Drow, Hobbits and Orcs were ravaged during the first years of the Hydra's Eyes presence in Moreelse.

>Culture

Moreelsians are considered very courteous and religious, although they are despised by many of their non-human neighbors due to their rampant xenophobia, something that's built up since the establishment of the Order of the Illuminatus. Their language, although similar to that of Hithlone's and the Three Sister's, also holds influence from the queer tongue of the southern Drow. Usage of the White Death is widespread in the streets of Moreelse.

>>85053164
Second this.

>>85051893
Which avatarfag?

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>>85054792
>Economy

Lying where many trade routes converge, Moreelse is a generally wealthy city, although not as much as Hithlone or the Three Sisters. Its main exports are alchemical concoctions, paper, fruit and of course the dreaded White Death. Although trading relations between them and their neighbors have soured in the last years due to the presence of the Hydra's Eyes, the White Death has caused the flow of heaps of coin in the streets of Moreelse.

>Demographics

Humans - More than nine out of ten people in Moreelse are humans. Most are natives, although many people from the Remnants and the Triarchy have fled to Moreelse in order to join the ranks of the Illuminatus Order.

Non Humans - Few non humans have remained in Moreelse after being oppressed by the Cleansing Flame fanatics and the Hydra's Eyes. Most are old Drow families still living in their ancestral homes or bank-owning Dwarves.

Millitary - The Moreelsians have their own army comprised of infantrymen, arbalesters and cavalrymen, as well as their own - albeit smaller - fleet. Rough terrain between them and the Drow city-states has made their lands quite easily defendable. Although there's a civil guard in Moreelse, most of the patrolling and law enforcement is done by the Order of the Illuminatus.

>Government

Moreelse is ruled by a council that's composed of the city's most influential noble families, as well as the Hierarch of the Cleansing Flame. The council elects a Burgomaster on a one year term, who's responsible for much of the city's internal affairs. The shadow of the Hydra's Eyes looms over the Council, with many nobles being bought over by the criminal syndicate with either coin, or drugs.

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>>85055201

>City

Moreelse is divided in four quarters. The Old City of Moreelse is divided by sturdy walls, and in it live the cities' oldest families and nobles. The New Ghetto houses most of the city's poor inhabitants, a lot of them non-humans. Many run-down hospitals and schools also operate there. The Trade Quarter is most active during the day, with many market stalls and festivities being set up. It's also the banking hub of Moreelse. The fourth quarter is the Flame Quarter. It's almost absent of city guards, since it's where the Order of the Illuminatus, as well as the Temple of the Cleansing Flame are located. Folks speculate that the Hydra's Eyes operate in the sewers under the Flame Quarter.

Many smaller towns and villages are scattered in the outskirts of Moreelse, specializing mostly in lumber and farming.

>Foreign Relations

The Triarchy - Although these two nations have been close to each other since the independence of Moreelse, Hydra's Eyes alchemists and mutants clash over the Triarchy's slavers in the Kinnog Jungle. The City's Council is reassuring the Triarchs that they've got the situation under control, although the latter have seen no progress as of yet.

Drow City-States - There's mutual hatred between these two nations. The Drow hate the Moreelsians for the horrible treatment of their own kind, and the Moreelsians hate the Drow for decades of subjugation.

Hithlone - Considered trade partners, Hithlone, as well as Azan, is the Hydra's Eyes main destination of the White Death. Many mages live in Hithlone, so for that reason there's a cloak of dissent between them.

Kinnog - The Jungles of Kinnog are the source of the White Death plant. Hydra's Eyes mutants and alchemists have set their operations there, often clashing with the native inhabitants and slavers from the Triarchy whenever their operations get threatened.

>>85055326
Arangea - The city's officials distrust the Moreelsians, due to their inabillity of capturing the Hydra's Eyes renegades and returning them to Arangea in order for justice to be carried out. Many bounty hunters have set out for Moreelse in search of the crime syndicate, although few have had any success

>>85055326
this doesn't sound comfy at all

What is this setting's version of the spanish inquisition

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Map anon here. I added more info in the underground map. Anything else you want to add or correct, feel free to tell me.


Also, I'll update the biome map with >>85042520 >>85052949 tomorrow, I can't do much today. Many have said the biome map needs a major makeover (and I agree), but right now there are other priorities.

>>85055916
The Inquisition of Grobianismus

>>85056264
This looks great, anon. Well done.

>>85056264
Good shit

>>85049390
I'm making a campaign set in the west. Azan Empire, Terusia, the Drow are all getting statted out.

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I hereby request that breach Ogres look like this. I think there's some Witch Elven lore about them and the Ogres coming from the Breach.

>>85044094
yeah sounds about right

>>85050076
cattails already look like they have sausages on the end making it look more natural.

the lore of glutton island is that it was created by a gluttonous god, it would make a lot more sense for the god to think of making cattails with hotdogs on the end because cattails already look like they have hotdogs on the end.

also we could call them hotdogtails

>>85057385
Any information that you want included in the Terusia lore? I am going to write them up next.

Azan and the Drow have a lot of stuff on the wiki if you need ideas for the campaign.

>>85057419
>I think there's some Witch Elven lore about them and the Ogres coming from the Breach.
Must have missed that one. I think three of the breaches only produce succubi. Maybe one of the other ones is different. When I wrote the Witch-Elf lore, I put forward three potential origins for them, one of which also applies to the ogres.

In terms of Breaches though, ogres seem mostly associated with the glutton god, while Witch Elves are associated with the Succubus Queen, so they won't be from the same breach. Also, there are already red horned ogres in the setting, so don't know if it is necessary to make a new ogre race, or just expand on the history of the existing horned ogres.

>>85056264
We should probably have a wiki page for the Underground Stuff since most of it isn't long enough to justify its own page.

>>85040193
straight line is cringe
pic related is what it should be, Penrose stairs on the south and west, Euclidian linear stairs in the north and east. although I don't see how the penrose stairs undermines the giants journey up, he's still going up stairs, it's just that the stairs don't follow standard euclidian geometry and loop back on themselves as they go up.

>>85041898
maybe the real heaven was the friends we made along the way did you ever think about that hmm?

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>>85058977
forgot pic related

>>85058977
>penrose is cringe
ftfy

Straight staircase is OG lore. Penrose should be heresy like >>85047620 anon said.

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The Path of Ascension

A cult like faith that revolves around the preparation for and attempt of ascension from one staircase to the next. The core belief of the ascender's cult is that one achieves spiritual enhancement from ascending to the next stair, following in the literal footsteps of Giants and Gods.

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>>85060737
The Infinite Path

Directly opposed to the Path of Ascension cult, despite some members having similar goals, spiritual ascension through physically ascending the Giant's Staircase. The members of the Infinite path believe that the true nature of the staircase is infinite, looped upon itself in an unending cycle. The Infinite Path encourages all members to seek their own means of ascension. Some attempt to achieve immortality believing the gods will return in the endless loop, others attempt to ascend the staircase by launching themselves into the heavenly void, believing they will land on the other end of the loop, achieving instantaneous apotheosis by having leapt past so many stairs. There are those in the cult that believe the staircase is not looped but should be, drawing on twisted knowledge and powers, even attempting communion with Mg'umba believing the celestial to be ally in this endeavor. Regardless of their methods the members of the Infinite Path often find themselves at odds with The Path of Ascension, coming to blows with one another more often than not.

>>85060626
stop shilling this. just because you've written some mediocre lore that fits better with the straight model before we could decide on it does not mean you get to pick and choose. I vote penrose

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>>85058677
You realize this >>85044161 is a picture of a real tree, do you?

>>85060813
>I vote
Ok samefag, keep pushing what no one else wants.

>>85060813
>you've written some mediocre lore
>>85034498
>be nice
>before we could decide on it
>>85034498
>don't fuck up other people's lore
>does not mean you get to pick and choose. I vote penrose
>>85034498
>don't sperg out if people don't accept or like your lore/additions

>>85060853
>>don't sperg out if people don't accept or like your lore/additions
exactly. now piss off

>>85060813
Most Lore was already written based on the idea of a staircase not a penrose one. Don't sperg just because you're late to the party and your shit doesn't fit in.

>>85060839
take your meds. straight stairs are not happening

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>>85060860

>>85060863
>source: trust me bro
I'm writing lore for this project since day one. Stop projecting

>>85060866
>take your meds
Classic troll tactic. Its ok anon, no one liked your mpreg island. No one wants your penrose staircase. Just calm down.

>>85060873
nice picture of yourself.

>>85060878
>the guy pushing for a straight starircase is avatarfag
color me surprised lol

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>>85060879
Its like you're putting in effort with your low-effort trolling. You're not going to kill the project no matter how hard you try.

>>85060886
>>85060879
>>85060876
>>85060866
>>85060860
Classic sperg

>>85060889
You are still projecting anon. The majority here wants the penrose model. You are the one samefagging because you desperatey want people to use your shitty lore see:
>>85027737
>>85027752
I'm just saying it's not happening. You are the one derailing by forcing this meme. Also why did you drop that loli avatar?

>>85060914
>The majority here
Anon short of an actual poll, which doesn't work well on 4chan(nel) to begin with, you're not going to get a verifiable consensus.

>>85060914
ive only seen one person advocating for circle stairs
i guess going around in circles and not accomplishing anything was your goal the whole time
retconning the escape from the great void into some sisyphean tailchasing undermines the worlds origin

world is round

>>85061009
Well that's because you think everyone that disagrees with you has to be one person. We're going with this anons idea >>85012904 and no amount of sperging or samefagging from your side will change that.

>>85061043
based contrarian

>>85061060
wrong

>>85061069
>based contrarian
>let's just troll, derail threads and fuck with people!
opinion discarded

all of this would have been avoided with a round world

>>85058708
There's barely anything added about the underground lore. There's a lot of potential to fill story there.

>>85061194
begone
heretics of the sphere cult and heathen barbarians of the circular stair shall be smited

These threads are terrible and so is everyone involved.

>>85061768
that's you aswell

Best location of this setting for a CoC campaign?

>>85061905
Eldritch Jungle?

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>>85058708
Mainly just places and place names. Small towns and cities

Niikolai
>A former Azan city along the southern coast of Terusia. Niikolai started as an Imperial fort atop a flat hill, overlooking a natural harbor and the flows of the Geistfox where it meets the sea. It would eventually become the core of the city. The thick, and tall walls of the fort making an effective citadel and center of government. The fort is home to the Council of Worthies, the petty Nobles and Merchants who maintain governance over the province. It is also home to a professional Cadre of soldiers, the Niikolai Lost Legion, made up of the descendants of Azan Legionnaires who stayed behind when the Empire withdrew from the Province.

The Whispering Woods
>The Whispering Woods are one of the many alpine forests bordering the Scabbard Range. Made up of rock hard Oderica Pines which grow along the rocks and White Oaks which grow along the plains, the Whispering Woods serve as a natural border between Terusia province and the Blasted Plains that lead into Drow territory. Arching through the Woods is the Geistfox river, so named for the spirit like creatures seen to inhabit the forest, which starts in the mountains and goes south towards the coast. The river is the only real way through the Forest unless you skirt the edges of it, as the deep you go into the Woods the harder it is to leave them

Geistfox River
>A medium sized river, ignored by most maps of the region but crucial for northern trade it is frequented by trade and cargo barges, small river watch boats from Niikolai and even river bandits. It's source in the Northern stretch of the Scabbard Range has yet to be found and it stretches for hundreds of miles down to the sea. Passing a number of small towns and villages before reaching Niikolai

I see Terusia as being a war ravaged and slowly rebuilding province. Small independent villages responsible for their own defense. As well as being a melting pot of the North and West.

>>85058997
What other worlds are on top of the other stairs?

>>85062372
Sounds good

>>85060626
It doesn't matter. Almost nobody will ever access anything other than their current layer. Of those who access another step, they'll virtually always only access an adjacent one. The chance of anyone ever venturing further is so small as to be negligible.
>Everyone can accuse everyone else of heresy, so that's OK
Truth be damned!

So, what the hell is in the Eldritch Jungles

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Ok, I added the changes you mentioned. Anything else in need of change?

>>85061060
I actually enjoy watching you sperg while insisting multiple people are me and blatantly, desperately, trying to retcon lore which goes against the rules of the project.

>>85061009
Honestly at this point just ignore Penrose Anon and whatever he tries to post.

>>85064180
Map anon here... I like the pentrose idea.

Any Zapalovah lore?

>>85061060
No go fuck yourself. The penrose idea is retarded. Though, some sort of weird hyperbolic space staircase might be worth exploring.

>>85054192
probably the giant handprint desert

>>85065487
id keep it, but make the outline a bit rougher, still recognizable as a hand but a big more wiggly

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>>85065223
No you are not, stop lying.

>>85065597
based

I like the penrose stairs

what lore should I write next

>Mossovoy
>Arangea

So, from all the lore so far it seems that the western human states are either descendants of drow slaves/subjects or from Azan colonies. What about the ones to the north?

>>85066236
Mossovoy sounds very interesting, I'd love to see more lore about it.

>>85066276
How far north?

North of Drow City-States is still ex-Azan.

North side of main continent is a bit unclear.

>>85066329
I meant blesire states, arangea, calcabra etc. I know that Etera is supposed to be a magic city-state whose inhabitants disappeared, but I don't know if you can attribute the rest of the humans living there to them.

>>85066295
Yeah they are the only major Necromancer civ with seemingly no ties to Okhost.

>>85060821
really?
huh funky, well I guess that works out then, I still like the hotdogtails though so the trees could produce sausages while the cattails produce hotdogs

Which are some interesting characters in this setting?

>>85060626
I don't see how this is wrong in any way.
in this model the penrose stairs shouldn't interfere with any pre-established lore

>>85062543
idk.
maybe the stair to the west is like a space flavored one? no idea really

>>85065487
>>85065535
I'd make it a footprint cause it fits better with the lore.

>>85066717
bobbit the hobbit, the blind bastard king, and the bog witch

>>85066972
isn't the blind bastard a woman though?

>>85066978
eh, close enough

>>85066355
The way things are written now, those states were part of the Azan/Dragon Empire at one point, but not necessarily first settled by them. The Azan/Dragon Empire was a multicultural empire that brought together (mostly) human cultures all across the south and the west.

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>>85065597
no the *other* guy, dummkopf

>>85067277
>>85065597
based map anons

Anwho, someone give me the QRd on the Azan empire chronology, I might be able to do something fun.

>>85067323
I think it goes line this

>Southwestern Dragon Empire, 1k years past
Basically covered most of western portion of the world. Then it broke apart, with Azan being its successor state in the Southwest, while the far west Continent was subject to two different elven empires.

First was the Western Elven Empire, which was mostly wood elves from the north. Then that broke apart, and a second Western Elven Empire was formed, also known as the "Drow Empire". Successor state of the Drow Empire was the Drow confederacy, which blew up thanks to internal strife so we have the various Drow city states now.

>>85067479
You can also check the Hithlone and Triarchy wiki pages since those mention the Azan empire in the history section, I think.

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>>85067277
Huh. Well that's just embarassing. My apologies.

To celebrate this merry misunderstanding, I'm putting "Dummkopf" as the name of a cave.

>>85067323
Prophet Aza unites ancient humans against unclear opponent
Dragon/Azan Empire slowly expands for millennia
Drow appear about a millennium ago, triggering initial breakup of Empire
New Prophet reforms the faith, which helps the Empire recover in some areas while costing it others

>>85067479
Azan/Dragon Empire took out the First Western Elf Empire, not the other way around.

The history is fairly well explained here:
https://crumbling-giantstep.fandom.com/wiki/Azan_Empire?so=search

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>>85065223
>>85065597
>>85067277
>>85067503
these guys

voting for penrose

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What is it life like in a day of your average Grobianismian?

>>85066717
Chancellor Constantin Farvello of the Orange Marquissates has potential

>>85070034
shit

Which is the most comfy place?

>>85070929
Not Grobianismus

>>85065597
>>85067277

Nice

Since most of the moon's and sun's trajectories all cross Chakobsa, does anything weird/arcane/divine happen there?

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>Terusia Isthmus

>History:

The border between the drow and the Azan Empire has changed frequently since the drow first established themselves in the Ashlands, with many battles fought among the hills and valleys of the Scabbard Range/Terusia Isthmus. For several centuries, the Whispering Woods have served as the de facto border on the southern side of the mountains, and the Grey Marshes have served as the northern boundary.

However, 50 years ago, rumors began to spread of a plan to demolish the city of Valens, and dig a canal to the nearby dwarf ruins of Zalivarr, which it is said was once the entrance to a massive underground canal leading to the far side of the isthmus. The goal of this of course would be to rehabilitate the underground canal, allowing ships below a certain size to be pulled from one coast to another.

It is unclear whether this plan was ever truly viable, or even anything but a rumor, but needless to say, this wasn’t popular in Valens, and also in other cities as well, as most rely on the transport of goods through the mountain passes to form the backbone of their economies. The legion and local administrators were either driven out or defected during a three-year long rebellion, and the Terusia Isthmus as been independent ever since.

>Government:

Niikolai, a fort city near Whispering Woods, is the de facto capital, though the smaller the community, the more independent it is, with the smaller villages and hamlets essentially self-governed. The Council of Worthies rules Niikolai, and to a lesser extent the other cities and towns.

>Economy:

The backbone of the economy is the transfer of good from the north coast to the south coast, or vis-versa, via footpaths through the mountain passes. Most cities and towns other than Niikolai and Varens have a “twin” located on the opposite coast.
Fishing is also a key industry, as is ship building and repair.

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>>85071010

Due to the mountainous terrain, farming is difficult and is mostly restricted to what is needed to support the local population. Small grain farms and vineyards are common along the coast, while sheep herding is common along the mountain slopes.

Forestry to support the ship building industries is also important, with several fast growing species like the Oderica Pine providing most of the wood.

Due to the threat of invasion by the drow (and more recently by Azan), little wealth is kept or invested in the Isthmus. Buildings tend to be small but functional, made from wood or white stone and terracotta tiles. Wealthy nobles and merchants tend to have roots in other nations, and many send much of their wealth abroad to banks, investors, and family for safe keeping.

>Foreign Relations:

Azan – Although 47 years has past since the end of the rebellion, everyone knows that Azan will one day attempt to regain this province, though it is unclear whether they will invade directly, subvert politically, or perhaps merely wait until the drow launch their own invasion, then come to the rescue, for a cost... Despite this, many of the merchants that ship goods through the Isthmus are Azanese, and the two regions are too culturally similar for there to be a strong hatred between the commonfolk.

Drow City-States – The drow have controlled the western portion of the Scabbard Range for over two centuries, and it is almost inevitable that one or more city-states will try to expand eastward. But for now the main drow alliances prefer raiding northward, and only occasional minor raids pop up from the cave networks beneath Terusia.

>>85071010
Hey anon, you’ve been doing a great job on the lore! Feel free to add more depth to Chancellor Constantine Farvello of the Orange Marquissates and Vandervax the Vile of Okhost as they are both my additions and I have trust that you’d do them justice if you decided to write some more expansive lore on them.

>>85071048
>>85071048
If you want to that is

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>>85071026

Bumi, Gvilderstaaten, Terpysythea, Azhar Nar, and Lorient – Aside from Azan, these nations are the most frequent users of Terusia’s mountain passes, and you will find merchants and sailors from all of them in Terusia’s port communities. However, Terusia’s government trusts none of these states as all of them would benefit if Azan were to somehow forge an underground canal through Terusia.

Daligrad and Moreelse – Two more relatively frequent users of the mountain passes, the criminal organizations of these regions have mixed feelings about Terusia’s independence. On one hand, Terusians are far easier to bribe now that they are independent, on the other hand, the underground canal would also open interesting possibilities.

>Geography:

Although the coastal regions have a similarly warm climate to neighboring regions, most of the central isthmus is mountainous, and in some places the mountains directly border the sea, while in others they are surrounded by foothills.

Despite its small size, it has a range of interesting features:

Niikolai - A former Azan city along the southern coast of Terusia. Niikolai started as an Imperial fort atop a flat hill, overlooking a natural harbor and the flows of the Geistfox where it meets the sea. It would eventually become the core of the city. The thick, and tall walls of the fort making an effective citadel and center of government. The fort is home to the Council of Worthies, the petty Nobles and Merchants who maintain governance over the province. It is also home to a professional Cadre of soldiers, the Niikolai Lost Legion, made up of the descendants of Azan Legionnaires who stayed behind when the Empire withdrew from the Province.

>>85071048
>>85071051
Thanks, I may check them out at some point.

I should point out though that I am not the only person who makes posts in this style, there is at least one other.

>>85071074

The Whispering Woods - The Whispering Woods are one of the many alpine forests bordering the Scabbard Range. Made up of rock hard Oderica Pines which grow along the rocks and White Oaks which grow along the plains, the Whispering Woods serve as a natural border between Terusia province and the Blasted Plains that lead into Drow territory. Arching through the Woods is the Geistfox river, so named for the spirit like creatures seen to inhabit the forest, which starts in the mountains and goes south towards the coast. The river is the only real way through the Forest unless you skirt the edges of it, as the deep you go into the Woods the harder it is to leave them.

Geistfox River - A medium sized river, ignored by most maps of the region but crucial for northern trade it is frequented by trade and cargo barges, small river watch boats from Niikolai and even river bandits. It's source in the Northern stretch of the Scabbard Range has yet to be found and it stretches for hundreds of miles down to the sea. Passing a number of small towns and villages before reaching Niikolai.

(I didn't write the above three geography items, just incorporating them for a more logical flow on the wiki)

Varens – This moderate sized city of canals and dry docks is located among the ruins of the dwarven hold of Zalivarr, as well as the river delta formed by water draining from a massive rock pile in the centre of the ruins. The ruins, and the river, are said to connect to an underground canal that was painstaking carved out by the dwarves in ancient times to connect the ocean on either side of the isthmus. However, any attempt to reestablish the canal would not only require the demolition of much of Varens, but would also damage the economy of most of Terusia’s other cities.

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>>85071093

Firefly Hills – This long stretch of foothills on the southern side of the Scabbard Range is imfamous for its indigenous fireflies, which come out in vast numbers for several months each year in the summer.

>Demographics:

Humans – Most of the population are human, and former inhabitants of the Azan Empire, which of course is quite diverse in terms of human ethnicities. Inhabitants of the southern coast tend to have the stronger tan and darker hair associated with the core Azan Empire, while the inhabitants of the northern coast have paler skin and fairer hair, similar to Gvilderstaaten, the Isle of Wizards, and the northern coast of the Azan Empire. However, you will find both groups on both coasts, and many humans descended from other western maritime nations as well.

Drow and Half-Drow – Not uncommon in the Isthmus, most descend from ideological exiles from the drow city states like Eilistraeans, while others are descendants of slaves and their masters. Despite the long history of warfare with the drow city-states, the drow find Terusia to be among the most accepting of their kind, as most communities have at least a few long-term drow residents who can be relied upon to sniff out spies and infiltrators from the city-states.

Demon Tieflings – Many tieflings have migrated here from Gvilderstaaten, finding the people tolerant, and the lifestyle less cutthroat than their homeland. Demon tieflings have a known tendency to immoral and cruel behaviour, but locals are fine with longtime residents with no history of causing trouble.

>>85071106

Dwarves – There are surprisingly few dwarves in the region given the number of abandoned dwarven holds and mines. However most of these ruins were abandoned long before the arrival of the drow, their residents drawn to more plentiful opportunities in the Ashlands and the Baalps (regions which in turn were later overrun by the drow and gibberlings respectively). Most dwarves in the region today are farmers, fishers, and craftsmen.

Hobbits – Some hobbits have arrived from Gvilderstaaten, but they tend to be short term residents.

Goblins and Harpies – Small colonies of goblins and harpies live in the more remote parts of the Isthmus. Although not all hostile, enough are that they are usually attacked or avoided when they appear.

>Religion:

Most inhabitants follow the New Azan Faith, sometimes with other pantheons partially incorporated like the Triple God Faith, the Dwarven Gods, or Eilistraree.

>Military:

Terusia’s main fighting force is the Niikolai Lost Legion, made of the descendants of defectors, deserters, and retirees of the legions that tried to put down the rebellion. Most communities have their own militia, and the more remote ones rely entirely on them for defence, knowing the closest Lost Legion garrison is far to far away to be of use.

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>The Azan Faith (see Azan wiki entry for history)

The Azan Faith is centered around the Faceless God Bronzar, and his Prophet Aza, who helped the ancient nations of the west and south defeat an unspecified evil in ancient times via divine magic.

The Old Faith had a more binary and hierarchical view of the world, while the New Faith is more flexible and prioritizes spreading the Faith and maintaining its moral supremacy in case one day Bronzar must unite much of the world against evil again.

>Key Figures:

Bronzar, the Faceless God – A powerful force, but selfless and humble, Bronzar is credited for safeguarding the world against great evils in ancient times, and is still considered active in modern times. His faithful are sometimes granted divine magic, generally healing, but also sometimes offensive magic meant for demons, undead, and other evil beings. Bronzar discourages egotism, and in ancient times was generally depicted as a man without a face. The Old Faith often gave him a draconic appearance, and the New Faith heavily discourages depicting him at all, though some regions ignore this. Bronzar rarely communicates directly with followers, perhaps seeing petty politics and doctrinal disputes as beneath him.

Aza the Prophet – The main prophet of Bronzar in ancient times, when he, and some others like him mobilized ancient humans against some great evil.

Alarna Hiranur – The second main prophet of the Faith, there is some debate whether she actually is a prophet as she never claimed to be one in her lifetime. However, her reforms are the backbone of the New Faith, so most assume she was in some way guided by Bronzar, otherwise why are the members of the New Faith able to access divine magic still.

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>>85071384

Other Figures – Depending on the region, the local church will sometimes integrate other gods into the faith, along with a wide range of local prophets and saints. The logic behind this is generally that as an altruistic, selfless god, Bronzar will naturally have friendly relations with other relatively altruistic gods.

>Organization:

Over time, the Faith has become highly decentralized, with separate church hierarchies appearing in any nation or cultural region where existing hierarchies can’t gain traction. These separate hierarchies disagree on a wide range of minor issues, and often end up distinct aesthetically as they adapt to local culture. However, the religious leaders back in the core Azan region have the most moral sway with branches of the New Farith, and smaller branches often follow their lead on new issues.

>Locations:

The Azan Faith can be found throughout range of the old Azan/Dragon Empire and beyond. It co-existed with a number of other religions even at the height of the Old Faith’s intolerance and excess, and has since then managed to get along with most relatively altruistic religions in most places, allowing it to exist as a minority religion in many regions.

>Key Beliefs:

The New Faith emphasizes altruism, humility, thoughtfulness, and non-judgmental behavior, except in the face of true evil.

The Old Faith has a more binary view of the world, seeing evil everywhere and seeking to stamp it out. In some places, the Old Faith has become fanatically pro-human, and borderline genocidal against “evil races” like the demon tieflings, witch-elves, or drow.

>>85070929
Also curious about this as well.

>>85070929
foodland or the paradise of big rock candy mountain

>>85071384
speaking of faith, I think that gods should be created and be sustained on the faith of those who believe them

>>85071928
there are often shared hallucinations of deity figures travelling south to north/up the step as part of the ascension for a god

>>85070929
woodcutters are fairly affluent, and surrounded by green and sea, they are probably up there

>>85066717
I like the Gnoll Emperor.

>>85070187
>>85072847
what is their typical day like?

>>85071396
>>85071384

sounds great anon

people need to start updating the wiki otherwise most of the stuff posted in these threads will just get lost

>>85071928
Maybe some of them, but others are clearly extraplanar beings who don't necessarily seem to care about their followers.

>>85074087
This. I don't like the idea of the gods needing to feed on adoration to survive, it makes them less godly.

Plus, some of the gods mentioned don't seem to need it anyway. The God of Action seems to just enjoy watching shit happen for no other reason but entertainment.

>>85073992
I added the terusia and azan faith lore to the wiki

This way
>>85074457
>>85074457
>>85074457

>>85073992
Someone's gotta scroll through the threads and start adding stuff.