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>>90267064
Well OP, because you actually shared some of your own stuff, I'll share some of mine.

I have a culture with a particular set of beliefs revolving around fire and hearths. Essentially, they believe that the souls of the dead are kept in fire, so an eternal hearth is necessary to maintain respect to one's ancestors. Likewise, caring and tending to the hearth evolved into rituals and ceremonies.

This society is matrilocal, so marriage involved the husband transferring a fire from his mother's hearth to his bride's, so that his bride's family may also forever watch over his ancestors. In turn, the bride's father offers a weapon as a gesture of approval. This was originally a bronze sword, but nowadays most people just have ceremonial knives, but the nobility still offer an actual weapon.

As for funerals, cremation is mandatory as that's how a soul can be released from the body, the fire that burned the body would thus be transferred to a hearth.

Beauty standards in this society has prehistoric origins, when a woman's quality derived from her ability to feed her children, as well as willingness to sacrifice their own health to do so. Because of this, thin and lithe women are seen as both beautiful and pious. In contrast, some thickness on men is seen as attractive as it is indicative of their respect to their mother; good sons work hard and get beefy, and thus get fed more. Basically, leaness isn't entirely attractive, but neither is being a fatass.

Did you thought of any original intents on the rituals of your culture? Like where did the wedding hunt come from and such.

>>90267064
what is this type of fetish called

>>90269892
Petplay with a bit of slave/master relationship.

>>90267064

A common IRL wedding tradition around the world is for the groom's family to "kidnap" the bride from her family.

I always thought that the opposite would be funny: the bride's family tries to force her onto the groom's, and the groom's family has to fight them off before reluctantly accepting her. (switch genders if in your culture the groom joins the bride's family). It doesn't have great implications, but it's very funny and coming up with a historical background could be a great way to inject humor in an organic way.

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>>90267064
Masturbate before posting

>>90267064
When married, a man wears a lock of his wife's hair braided into his beard or hair. Betrothed & serious couples substitute a ribbon until they are married formally. All marriages must take place under the watching eye of the sky father & in the embrace of the earth mother, ritualistically emphasizing the creation of man, when the sky father & earth mother had sex. So the bride & groom must fuck outside on bare earth or stone, no roof or ceiling obstructing, though it's okay to put up a screen or to go into the woods or behind a fence away from prying eyes. Usually nobles will have one old chronicler observe & prove an actual consumation took place, & some boisterous people want to fuck right then & there with both family & friends watching but that's rare as hell & not the norm. Because the consumption has to take place outside with little shelter rain on your wedding day is actually seen as a good thing (skyfather & earth mother want to get in on the action) & marriages in winter & freezing weather are seen as either acrs of desperation or declarations of overwhelming love.

>>90270035
everyone's having a good discussion here but you
>>90268425
>Did you thought of any original intents on the rituals of your culture
I'm pretty sure I got this from somewhere else but the idea is more common since I just read a comic where orcs do the same exact thing.

>>90267064
Weddings and funerals, no, but the culture I've been working on for a while has something interesting regarding duels.

A duel is always agreed to and arranged a week in advance, and rather than two people fighting it out one-on-one, is considered to be a boring affair if both participants show up to it. As such, it's less a case of "I wish to fight you to see who is stronger" and more "Me and four of my friends are going to jump you in an alley and shank you to death some time in the next week." It's also considered a MASSIVE social faux pas to challenge anyone not actively bearing military-grade arms or wearing a military insignia to a duel, though everyone carries a dagger with their name, date and place of birth, parentage and next of kin engraved onto it - as that last bit is regularly updated, it's done on an iron plate that's set into the handle instead of directly onto the blade.

This does lead to some awkward social situations when insulted foreign dignitaries challenge someone to a duel only to be found next morning in their bed missing the majority of their throat.

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>>90271565
I generally try to invent the origin of traditions for my cultures, and I find that it's a convenient way to develop cultures since you can kill two birds with one stone.

For example, in this post >>90270529 I'd infer that this culture might revere rain as it provides growth to their land that they feed off of. It's nothing entirely special as that's something almost every culture understands, but it's something you can start building upon. As for the ribbon, there could have been some story involved that started that tradition, and could be as simple as a young girl giving a ribbon she weaved to a boy she liked to mimic what their parents already do.

>>90270024
I have something like this, where it all started as marriage between two kingdoms. It has to do with the matrilocal culture, but a special case was made for the bride to move in with the groom. She was ordered to do so by her aunt, the Queen, and it's considered similar to how an heiress's husband moves into her household to take control of it. Unfortunately, her parents were upset to lose their daughter and only child, so they did everything they could to sabotage the wedding. It erupted into a duel between the groom and the bride's father, and the groom's and bride's mothers having a tug-o-war over the ceremonial brazier that's meant to be taken in by the groom's mother. The groom's subjects enjoyed the ceremony so much because in a way it displayed the sorrow of losing one's child that they began imitating it at their little weddings. Instead of kidnapping, it's more like the parents of the spouse moving out have to pretend to be stubborn and disapprove of the other party, and it might become something of a friendly roast.

>>90267064
One culture descends from steppe nomads that used to do bride kidnapping. Now that they are settled and more civilized they instead do a mock kidnapping where the groom has a mock sword fight with the bride’s father or brother before taking her out of her parental home.

Another culture has that when somebody dies they are buried in a mound. The deceased person’s female family members then stand in front of the mound and cry and wail for all to hear. This is to make sure that the deceased person understands that he is dead so that he won’t rise again as some kind of undead.

>>90274566
The first one can’t have always gotten their brides from kidnapping, but the mock fight idea is pretty cool.

>>90276536
NTA but these traditions probably start off when there are plenty of independent clans running around the steppe, and the more powerful men taking multiple wives. It would lead to lesser men who want wives to go out and kidnap women from other clans, particularly ones you already have beef with. It may also eventually evolve into revenge kidnappings, and throughout the course of history as these clans may converge, unite, and get more powerful, all the while also trying to maintain order, rules may develop to discourage wanton kidnappings which would eventually evolve into traditions. I like to think traditions began as a sarcastic way of acknowledging the past.

>>90273025
You're right on both counts. Rain represents the sky father seeding new life with the earth mother. And ribbons are like highschool promise rings. It's just girls getting really into things

>>90276872
And speaking of developing cultural traditions, I can further develop this tradition here >>90273025 where the parents of the spouse moving out going over to the receiving household to criticize it, like it's not good enough for their child. It's meant to be a friendly way for families to discuss what changes they'd like to see so that the couple can live in harmony. If the bride and groom decide to move out together and go on their own, then both their parents might just team up together and hound the new couple on how to keep a proper household. The parents might argue with each other over what's best, but they'd only argue in front of the couple because it's meant for them, all the while laughing it off when they leave.

>>90274566
I smell a Slav.

>>90267064
I have no wedding traditions (truth be told it had never crossed my mind) but as far as funerals go my Orcs prefer cremation. They abhor burials at sea and drowning, believing the kraken god will steal their souls. They will not bury their dead out of fear that water will seep into their graves and given the kraken access to them. In ancient myth the kraken sunk their island city and stole the souls of every orc who died. This hasn't stopped them from becoming sailors and sea traders but it has led to a peculiar relationship with other seafarers.

The Orc land caravans are little better than bandits and will steal everything from you if you cannot protect yourself, but orc sailors will never leave anyone adrift or engage in deadly ship to ship combat except to defend themselves. To rescue a marooned or adrift sailor gives him a divine protection because they rescued him from the grips of the kraken god. He cannot be taken into slavery and must be delivered to safe harbor. To kill him or enslave him would likely curse the crew to the kraken doom.

As a side, orcs take careful effort to teach themselves how to swim. They may fear dying in water but they understand knowing how to swim is a key to mitigating that. It's also why many seek a life in the deserts and steppe, far from deep waters.

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>>90267064
My four faiths in my setting revolve around each of the four elements of Water, Air, Fire, and Earth, and each have different traditions for weddings and funerals.

For instance, for my Earth faith plants are placed upon graves to mark them returning to the Earth and bringing forth new life (the specific plant varies depending on the area and other factors), so their graveyards look like gardens. I'm having more trouble with wedding stuff for Earth, my best idea is building a small tower of rocks together.

For Fire obviously they'd cremate their dead in massive bonfires, and for weddings I was thinking that they'd each add fuel to a fire in a special ceremony.

For Air I was thinking that they'd do sky burials, and for weddings my best idea is ceremonially constructing a kite and releasing it into the sky.

I could use some help on Water's funeral rites, Water worshippers living by the ocean could easily do burials at sea, but ones living by rivers or lakes can't, as that could contaminate their water sources. I was thinking that they could instead hold a ceremony in which they ceremonially cleanse the body using their equivalent of holy water before undertaking their local version of funeral rites like a reverse baptism.

So, are these ideas workable, or is there anything major about them that I should change?

>>90279691
What system do you use to play in your setting?

>>90279691
I'd ask why these elements are important to each faith in the first place, like the theology behind them. Without that, I think the ideas just rely on being associative and offer little substance.

For example, if the Earth element is, for whatever reason, agriculturalists who rely on good soil, horticulture might be a big component to their piety, so garden graves may be common, their bodies now nourishing the soil to grow the plants above them. If this is the case, a wedding ceremony may involve mixing the soil from some ancestral altar to create a new alter as a sign of union, rather than just rocks because rock is earth or whatever. It can symbolize how both parties plan on nourishing and cultivating their gardens together.

For fire, if it's a metaphor for life or whatever, and maybe there's also a family hearth (like my dudes), maybe the couple would take a fire from both hearths and combine it to start a new family. Kind of the same deal as previous to be honest but I'm just giving examples you can work with.

For air, I am assuming these are mountain people which is how they're able to conduct sky burials. I would also assume the sky is their main figure of worship, and I think building a kite and flying it together might be a way to some how symbolically show the sky their union, but I would put more importance in the sort of materials used to construct the kite.

For water, it seems that there's some kind of purification element behind it, cleansing a body in the water is an obvious rite of course, but as for weddings, maybe the couple simply bathe each other to symbolize a new beginning for the two of them.

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>>90280260
Oh, sorry, each one of the gods of my setting is aligned with one of these elements, so their faiths are elementally-themed as well, guess I forgot to mention it. Does that help clarify things a bit better?

Well, that's a cool idea, but it might not work for orphans. Something to think about though, thanks. Not to mention the possibility that they live in a more desert-like climate, now that I think about it. Talking with people really helps develop my ideas, thanks again for the help!

Again, a cool idea, but there are issues with doing so for orphans, or for if they marry someone from an outside faith.

What do you mean by the kite's materials? I was thinking that a priest would provide them and let the couple make their own personal touches to the basic design, but what are you thinking, that they each bring half?

Oh, I just realized that I completely forgot to mention my ideas for Water marriages, lol. That's about what I was thinking, with maybe doing so on a boat during a ceremonial trip for Water worshippers fortunate enough to live by the actual ocean or a large lake instead of a river, glad to see you had the same kind of idea.

>>90267064
Sauce on the image, I assume she is nude

>>90280742
>Does that help clarify things a bit better?
Not really, that doesn't say much about what these people actually value. You should describe more about their societies and what they need and what they do to thrive, even if the gods have a part in that.

As for the orphan, that seems rather irrelevant unless these societies take great care to think about them and they're a prominent part of society. If not, then you should ask what would orphans do when everybody else does these other things, like perhaps do the same but from the orphanage they grew up in, or whatever replacement they use to participate in the tradition.

For the kite, I was more or less asking what sort of materials could be significant to these people and what it would imply when flying them. That doesn't have to be important, but you can also do something like have them write messages on the kite, whatever to make the kite more personal for the couple.

Moving on from weddings and funerals, I'm a bit curious about what other people's cultures thoughts on the conception of power, such as the Divine Right of Kings or the Mandate of Heaven. I have a society that developed from a drought ridden area, and whoever was able to store water and share it would have influence. As that society transformed into a civilization with an Emperor, the idea of a ruler having to be generous became a form of legitimacy, and the wealthy would also build reservoirs and furnish green gardens as a display of power, the Emperor having the largest reservoir of course.

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>>90283003
Okay, that part of the setting is still in development, but I better understand what you were trying to say now, and I'll try to come up with more ideas there. For funerals at least, the funerary rituals should be meant to help ferry them off to the afterlife and their god's embrace faster, since the gods are absolutely real, so there's that at least.

Okay, I'll consider that, thanks.

Thanks for clarifying on that, I was also thinking of doing something along the lines of having the messages and design be different depending on the couple. Oh, if they tend to do sky burials, maybe they attach feathers to the kite, to symbolize their ancestors watching over the union? Also, I just thought of something, they'd surely need an alternative to sky burials, especially in times of war when there's a lot of bodies and not enough space or birds to handle them, what would you think could work, besides borrowing from the Fire religion and cremating them, so the smoke rises up to the sky in a different way?

Are you asking me specifically, or asking the thread in general, just to be clear? As for me, I was thinking that the gods would normally leave mortal politics to mortals, but their priests might intervene in times when succession is unclear, giving trials to potential heirs to the throne, determining who is most worthy to sit on the throne.

Speaking of, I've also been thinking about rituals for the birth of children in my setting. Obviously the Water faith would do something similar to Christian baptism, but the other faiths are giving me more trouble. I was thinking that the Fire faith might rub ashes from a sacred flame on the child's forehead like in Ash Wednesday, Earth could maybe have them touch a special crystal in a temple. My best idea for Air has something to do with feathers. What do you think?

>>90267064
In a city in my setting, a dragon once gave its word that it would protect a city during its founding. It later gave its soul to pay for a spell that erected a protective barrier around its walls so they would never fall.
This specific tidbit is irrelevant as my players will never care, but they had to attend a wedding as plainsclothes guards. But in honor of that dragon's sacrifice, when nobles (or wealthy merchants imitating nobility, in this case) the husband's blood is taken throughout the course of two months and slowly used to draw a magic circle around his home to reinforce it. Of course magic isn't very widespread so the circle doesn't actually do anything, but it's tradition to larp as that dragon. These weddings are also always at least partially held in the husband's home instead of a banquet hall or public place for the same reason.

>>90283174
I guess what I'm trying to get you to understand is to try to get in the mindsets of the people actually there. For something like this:

>maybe they attach feathers to the kite
It brings a lot more questions, like the signficance of birds and thus their feathers. Writing it off as "because they fly in the sky and sky is good" is very bland and is the same as honoring Jesus by eating fish because he made a lot of fish. Only having an association will never making it deep enough, you have to ask where those associations came from. I'm not Christian theologist, but I'd wager part of the importance of the Jesus and fish story is charity, so charity should be the focus of the faith, not fish. I will say that you can still start with an association as a base, that's all humans had to work with when they were still developing worldviews. Birds fly in the sky, skies are good, birds must be messengers of some sort. I will admit though, my way of reasoning is much more anthropological where I try to cut out any undoubtedly divine force to explain things, rather I do the other way around and make events be interpreted as divine forces.

>The question of power
This was for the whole thread, and it could be a lot less about religion but how what each society expects from their ruler. For example, Confucianism espouses a family model for the state; like a father who provides for his children, the Emperor must provide for his children. Thus the child must obey their father, and so do the Emperor's subjects. I believe medieval kings have a lot of beliefs rooted in proto-germanic kingship, where kings were of divine lineage and were responsible as a medium between the gods and the people. It's my personal theory that the Christian Divine Right of Kings was a development from that root.

>>90267064
In my setting the more body fat a woman has, the more attractive she is considered. Plump ass and large tits signify virility and femininity.

Men, on the other hand, are expected to be skinny and fit, and also die before reaching old age.

>>90267064
In my setting gay marriage is allowed for nobles as a tool for making alliances. The society is still homophobic, but homophobia is coming from the top - nobles want poor people to breed so that there's always enough serfs or soldiers for their wars. Among nobility itself, married homosexual pairs are expected to maintain extremely high standards of class/beauty. Sexual intimacy is not required in arranged marriages, so many just live together like bros, having side affairs.

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>>90283174
>birth
I think birth rituals are often about "joining" the child to the community, baptism in a way serves as a way to start them off as Christian. If ashes from a sacred flame of some sort of significance that can maybe transfer some sort of protection or acceptance, then that definitely checks out. You just really need to explain the meaning behind these rituals rather than just having them done because it just "seems to make sense". I don't have anything like that for my hearth keeper society, as being a child of a hearth keeper already makes one a hearth keeper. These people still often wear devices that can carry fire though, like candles, incense, or braziers, as it's believed that their ancestors can better watch over them when they're physically (the fire) is present.

>>90284676
I would expect a lot of dragon motifs were warriors as they would clearly become a symbol of protection, maybe some obsession/tradition of making the ultimate sacrifice.

>>90286676
Why do men die so early? And why the difference in beauty standards between genders?

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>>90286653
Yeah, I'll try to work more on that part of things. Thanks again, you've given me a lot to think about if nothing else.

Okay, thanks for explaining your chain of thought better, though I do see that you know that it would be rather different in a setting where the divine is unquestionably real. What are some of things that you've done with this, while you're here?

Okay, sorry that I couldn't tell. You mentioned that one society with an Emperor who has the largest reservoir in the territory, what about tour other societies?

Are you the same anon that I replied to below about stuff related to baptism-like rituals, BTW?

>>90286727
I was just using the term baptism specifically because of the similarity to my best idea for Water, but thanks for explanation. Still need ideas for my Air faith beyond just "something something feathers", do you have anything? Because I just had the thought of ceremonially presenting the infants to the sky, like Simba in the Lion King, so they can be seen by the Air god and vice versa, thoughts?

>>90290186
>do you have anything?
nta but if you want to get crazy, you know how those large birds hang out on mountain cliffs and wait for midday so the sun has warmed the air enough to support them on the thermals?

Remember that scene in Farscape when Chiana hangs out with the kids who jump off a cliff for fun?

What if an air baptism involved tossing newborns off a tall peak, either with or without a parachute, and relied on thermal updraft to catch them and carry them back up to the priest and relieved parents?

>>90267064
Goblins in my setting are supernaturally disgusting. Like they could look like a hentai character and be wearing the nicest dress and perfume and the 'civilized' races would still steer clear of them. Because of this they're obsessed with beautiful things, especially flowers which they treasure over precious metals or gems ('living' beauty vs. 'dead' beauty). Rather than exchanging rings, Goblin couples exchange flower garlands which they make themselves. If they're in a rush or there aren't any flowers around flower crowns or even a single flower behind the ear are acceptable.

Due to a deal between the God of All Goblins and the rest of the gods all Goblins are required to fight for a righteous cause at some point in their lives before then can pass on. Old soldiers and Goblins who die in battle are buried in normal clothes with a single flower, Goblins who haven't fought before are buried with some armor and a weapon so they can serve their term at their god's side.

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>>90290363
>Remember that scene in Farscape when Chiana hangs out with the kids who jump off a cliff for fun?
No, because I've never seen it before. I've heard of the birds though, but literally throwing babies off a cliff sounds a little too extreme for me, sorry. It could work for some kind of criminal trial or ritual maybe, so thanks for the suggestion anyway.

seriously no one is gonna link the full image of her nude? I imagine she has raisin-like nipples like most thin italians do

>>90268425
Thanks mate, I needed a cultural tradition for my DMsguild book. Just try to stop me lmao

>>90292028
What if they're thrown with a parachute or tied sheets or something? The ones who go back up can be highborn and the ones that only half catch a draft are spirited down for the peasantry at the foothills to raise or sell.

>>90267064
In my setting due to an army of the undead almost wiping out all life in the known universe (it's a dumb magic fantasy setting that spans across multiple worlds under one big disjointed empire) many worlds used to have large walled off areas for their cemeteries or cremated their dead not long after passing. It's fallen out of favour now that it's been a good few millennia since then, but the capital world still has essentially turned the cemetery in the main city into one big area ringed by walls and guarded by giant stone constructs. It's also partly a very nice public park. It's been so long, no one expects any more necromancy shenanigans, but for the capital, better safe than sorry.

Worlds have since developed their own funerary rights, but for a couple of thousand worlds, it was law that they have to burn all their dead. Only then would they go about holding the actual funeral rights after the burning. Some places now still do the whole funeral/send off ceremony after they've been buried just because they're so used to it even after the law was eased up.

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>>90267064
The two main gods in my world are a deity of Creation, Chaos, and Light, and a deity of Destruction, Order, and Darkness. The former constantly creates things, while the other either refines or destroys these creations to make them safe for the mortal realm.

I was thinking that they would each have a major faith corresponding to them, the former being less formal and centralized, and the latter being more structured and with a stronger central authority like a Pope, with most artists and other creative types belonging to the former and most government officials and similar individuals belonging to the latter. The thing is, I'm having trouble coming up with ideas for weddings and funerals for each faith. For the Order god's religion, I was thinking that they'd do something like sign a contract (akin to vows but written instead of spoken), but that's about all I've got so far, so I can really use some help here.

>>90293209
Is than AI that's unusually good at fingers or a human who's kinda bad at them?

>>90267064
Courtship is done through exchange of gifts that you yourself have made, with marriage only being performed after consummation. Consummation is done in secret with one sneaking into the other’s room and then escaping after having done the deed, lest the sneak be discovered by their partner’s family. It’s mostly formal at this point, but has its roots in old persecution of their species.

>>90290186
>What are some of things that you've done with this
With what, the way I build societies? I won't shut up if you ask.

>What about tour other societies?
I'm the same anon who shared the fire keepers. I'm pretty sure I've been the only one replying to you.

>Sky Rituals
I don't have much to give, I certainly don't want to do the work for you, all I can do is help you understand the origin of rituals so that you can pluck ideas from what you have and develop it. If you want to make it fancier then you have to pretend these people know nothing about rituals, give them one single basic idea for them to start with, add historical events or problems that encouraged them to make changes/additions, and eventually you'll come across something more natural. You can work backwards though, like if you have a neat looking idea, and then just make up the reason for it.

>>90292206
Oh no???

>>90292411
I think the best you can do with this is to have contrasting elements for either. You might even deliberately have them influence each other in that they try to not be like the other over time. The Chaos's wedding might have a lot of guests and wild ceremonies, and everybody being loud and maybe even roast the couple. The Order's wedding might be more somber even if a joyful occasion, but with much less guests and a larger focus on rituals. A Chaos's wedding might officiate a marriage with just vows, while the Order's wedding may officiate the marriage with plenty of documents to be indexed in some grand archive or whatever. If I had to design this, then I'd probably pull them in complete opposite directions just because it'd be fun.

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>>90267064
The !Spaniards of the setting have a unique death custom where they surgically remove the heads of the recently deceased and keep the heads while cremating the bodies.

I havn't nailed down why they would need to do this but I found the concept interesting, especially for wealthy nobles who will have their relatives heads embalmed and placed into ornate helmet like casings even have parts of the torso take to make them appear as a statue bust. Something like pic related except it would be a extremely well preserved head. The lower classes just have to stick with keeping the flensed skulls of their ancestors.

Needless to say, the same country is also a major innovator and source of the world's doctors who are very practiced in anatomy and medicine.

>>90292154
You live in the age of image search browser addons.

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>>90292240
Again, not remotely what I was considering, and I doubt that the parents would be very happy with that.

>>90293306
I'm fine with that. Just pick one to start with.

Okay, have you ever done the working backwards thing?

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>>90293306
Okay, these are all great ideas, thanks, though now I wonder what a marriage between individuals in each church might be like, and don't forget the other aspects besides Order and Chaos. While we're here, what about funerals, because I have almost no ideas there besides the Chaos, Light, and Creation church having a poem for the eulogy and the Order, Darkness, and Destruction church having a symbolic destruction of some of their personal papers if they had them.

Also, I saw the whole thing about birth rituals, do you have anything for those for me? Again, I was thinking that the parents might create a symbolic piece of art, or add to one like a family quilt for the Creation one, but the Destruction one is causing me to draw a blank, sadly.

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>>90293841
I started with working backwards, or rather I have a certain endpoint I'd like to come to and try to figure out how to get there. For example, I wanted to make a society of folks considered to be bumpkins by the wide world, and figured giving them suspenders like overalls would make them look more quaint. These little guys are considered primitive and because their sewing isn't very advanced, they started off by tying ropes onto their bottoms so they can just slip them on over their shoulders.

>>90294544
I don't know too much about your setting, but I'd simply recommend opposites again. A Light funeral might speak many nice things about the deceased and what good they brought, but also continue to celebrate their death day every year, as well as cremating them to show the light they still bring to the world. A Dark funeral may still say nice things at the funeral, but would treat it more like a "final conversation" with them and then burying them six feet under in the dark, not necessarily because they want to forget about them but find more value in trying to move on.

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>>90294627
Okay, thanks, these are a good start at least, I was beating my brain black and blue trying to come up with good ideas for funeral rites for each one of these. Again, speaking of, what about birth rituals I can use? My only new idea since the last post is that the filing of the birth certificate equivalent for the Destruction/Order/Darkness religion would be a major ceremony.

>>90276899
This sounds like a normal jewish family

>>90269892
Nostalgia.

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>>90296975
Have you ever considered making the DOD Church also be the bureaucratic arm of most states? You can make all sorts of religious functions as also public services. My fire keepers are like that, as the priesthood is also responsible for things like collecting taxes and redistributing it in the form of public works and services, such as land management, roads, food stores, etc.

>>90286727
>would expect a lot of dragon motifs were warriors

NTA but I have a dragon themed Not!Roman empire in one of my games & their soldiers are called Scales, since when they form a shield wall the shields interlock with scales, etc.

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>>90292411
Creation faith should have the prospective couple create something to give to the other. Like a wife might sew a coat & the husband might make a chair, or maybe he wants to show he wants kids & so he builds a crib.

As for the other church. Marriage should be held in darkness. The bride & groom get married & then they extinguish all flames & lights & send the next day or so in complete darkness with only each other. They could also ritualistically break something. Like the smashing a glass thing with Jewish couples, or maybe they break bonds with their old families in some way.

For funeral rites, the creation church might just dispose of the body in the woods & never think of it again. They might be averse to death as their people seek only life. Death could be taboo. As for the Destruction church ritual dismemberment & the breaking of bones with a hammer. Possible cremation, maybe even some light cannibalism

>>90298330
>They could also ritualistically break something. Like the smashing a glass thing with Jewish couples,

FYI, the breaking of the Jewish glass is symbolic of the destruction of the Temple, and to remind everyone that A. even on a day of great joy, bad shit still happens and B. the Jews are in exile and stuff.

It's not great, symbolically.

>>90301605
I'm not a kike so I don't give a shit. It's just an example of people breaking shit during a marriage

>>90301649
>thread about unique traditions during weddings and their origins and meanings
>a unique tradition is explained
>lol i dont care

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>>90293449
the tits are blurred

https://therongolianstar.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/bizarre-brides-and-weird-weddings-5.jpg?w=400&h=252

>>90301881
It's an entire pornographic photo set, not just a single image.

>>90302309
Yeah I found it, she's got some decent hangers.

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>>90297738
I was thinking that a lot of bureaucrats would be IN the DOD church, but not that it would BE the bureaucratic infrastructure of said states. Certainly something to think about, and I'd love to hear about how your fire keepers handle their own duties in this matter, please.

>>90298330
The crib thing might be a bit much at the wedding, but each one creating and giving each other a gift is a good idea, thanks.

So, does that mean that the Creation faith would hold its weddings at the height of the day, surrounded by lanterns?

That's going a bit farther than I was thinking, though cremation could work for the Destruction church.

>>90301605
Thanks for the additional context for the suggestion.

>>90305210
Creation church doesn't have to do everything equal & opposite of the destruction church. They don't need lanterns & light if you don't want them too.

Also, I'm not saying every man makes a crib I am saying that every man makes something, a crib is just an idea of something one individual & independent man might make. Other men might make chairs or one might make a whole cabin. It's the idea that they create SOMETHING as a gift.

>>90303580
Do you...want to share with the class?

>>90298221
>shields interlock with scales
You mean LIKE scales? Anyway, how do they handle weddings and/or funerals, and what else can you tell us about them?

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>>90305210
>I'd love to hear about how your fire keepers handle their own duties
Certainly. But I'd first preface that this society does not label their worldview as a religion, it idea of ancestor veneration in the fires is simply how the world works for them. That is not to say they have a fixed idea in how to run a state, but generally they organize themselves under noble clans who have monopolized the priesthood for their female members and military for their male members. Their political legitimacy comes from the idea that they are caring for and defending an eternal hearth of all members of a community so that their ancestors could never be extinguished. The priesthood acts as the mothers of the community, making laws and judging trials, as well as being a homemaker for public works and services. The military is not restricted to just warfare, but when they are home they still manage and build infrastructure as a son must obey their mother. But when father leaves the household to get resources that mother asks for, she has no right to tell him how to go about it, so the priesthood have no command over the military. This does not necessarily mean they have no control over the military, as domestic affairs is what determines what's need to be done abroad to fulfill those goals. It's just a simple family as a model of the state, although power is still restricted to the nobility.

This model isn't entirely identical in all clans/kingdoms, as they may have different expectations of mothers and fathers, as well as dynamic, which may determine what the priesthood and military are responsible for and how they behave.

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>>90267064
To round out the trifecta of major life events, what kind of rituals do the cultures in your setting do when a baby is born, like the Christian baptism? And does it have any connections or parallels to how said cultures handle weddings and/or funerals?

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>>90305317
Okay, that makes a bit more sense. I think that there should be a loose guideline of the scale of the gift, and how much help they're allowed (again, loose, so one can go over or under, but I can't imagine that a potential spouse would be very happy if they got a hand-made button, and making an entire mansion might be a little over-the-top, you know). Any more ideas on this while we're here?

>>90308217
Okay, this is cool, thanks. Are there any other major faiths near the fire keepers, then?

>>90305497
nah, you fuckers made me find it myself

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>>90312584
The counterpart of the fire keepers are rain makers, they're that one empire I mentioned with the whole sharing waters and building reservoirs. It also shouldn't be seen as a religion so much as a civilization, their pantheon incorporated many gods of their conquered subjects, they only ask that their new subjects acknowledge the emperor as the heir of the Sun, the supreme deity. A lot of their rituals and obsessions have to do with colorful displays, as rainbow would often follow after rain, believing it to be a good omen from the sky. They also came to revere birds and when they came into contact colorful birds like macaws, they began importing them for their feathers and those became a sign of prestige.

Also another note of "working backwards": The fire keepers were designed from a "hot-blooded warrior mama's boys" archetype, while the rain makers were designed from a "haughty benevolent pretty boys" archetype.

>>90267064
Ritualistic challenges. Before being married a bride gives the groom an ostensibly difficult or seemingly impossible challenge but is expected (assuming she wants to be married) rigs the challenge so he will win.
>Before you can marry me you must defeat each of my brothers in a duel
>Swap out brothers’ swords with swords made of lead so they’re nearly twice as heavy and brothers probably go easy anyway
>Before marrying me you must cross this river without a boat
>River freezes regularly for several months of the year
>Before you marry me you must bring me a white rose growing out of a stone
>Just fucking cuts off a rose and jams it in a crack in a boulder

>>90315697
This is cute.

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>World of the Strong setting where outside of the main sanctuary-cities, there are lawless lands where anything goes
>Some of those lawless lands are helmed by technologically and supernaturally augmented heroes who wind up closer to walking WMDs the further along they go in their growth
>These heroes can enforce rules on a wide circle of space and every single person within is expected to follow those rules or be regarded as an Enemy (be executed horrifically by the Ruler or the Ruler's various followers)
With that said, there is a generally understood rule to never bring harm to those who gather, prepare, or deal in food. It's an ancient taboo that is so thoroughly entrenched in the entire world's set of cultures that even during terrain-shattering conflicts between these demigods, they'll come to an immediate ceasefire if a convoy of chefs moving through their battlefield might wind up impossible to fight around. Many times, those untouchable chefs have even wound up resolving hideously bloody battles simply by hosting great feasts and encouraging opposing forces to meet eye-to-eye at the table instead of the frontline. In fact this rule is so heavily enforced by everybody that there is a subset of anti-culinary assassins who specialize in tracking down cooks, depriving them of any and all food materials they have, separating them from their kitchens, and killing them with excuses of not being aware they were chefs by their having been drawn so far out without any intent to provide nourishment, because anything short of that would paint a black mark on the assassin's head that would make them an open target for all factions throughout the world.

>>90267064
In my current one, Southern Wizards of noble status (so most nobles there) are boiled after death, their skeleton is preserved and decorated with jewels n' parts are engraved with silver or gold, then it's put in a glass display case in the house's mausoleum that's typically in a large subterraneal room that's ever expanding. Even if that noble died as a baby but they'll typically use bugs for the very young. Mourners will often sleep in the mausoleum the first night after the skeleton is placed there since sleeping is believed to be close to death, kind of as an opportunity to say goodbye one last time, catch em on the way out sorta thing since the spirit is believed to linger a bit before poofing.

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>>90315492
I remember that now. What are some of the major gods in the pantheon like, and do any get invoked at weddings or funerals often? Cool, what's some other backwards stuff that you've done?

>>90315697
So if they don’t want to be married they just let the groom flounder. What happens if he finds a way to beat it anyway?

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>>90316997
I never built a list of gods since they were meant to be made at people's discretion. It's like how in ancient mesopotamia, every city had its own god, and in this case all the subjugated cities' just had their gods made subservient to the conquering city, the Empire. There is one named god though as somebody wanted clown girls, so there is a God of Joy. There are organizations that seek to bring joy to the world by following the god's principles, and they're meant to be able to read the emotions of people very well as well as to calm them down with laughter.

>>90320139
I won't lie, I really fucking dig that design. Got any more?

>>90319786
Should have chosen a better challenge, you’re getting hitched whether you like it or not.

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>>90320139
Okay, that's rather interesting, I presume that they show up at occasions like weddings? Anything else that we should know about them?

>>90325388
kill yerself bumpboy

>>90325388
goddamnit bumpfag, we talked about this, if all you've got to pot are vague, open-ended questions, then don't post anything. i get that you're a low-functioning autist and shit, but that ought to be clear to you by now

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>>90320261
More what, clowngirls or my art in general?

>>90325388
I never delved too far into them, they probably wouldn't be present in all weddings, but the wealthiest and most powerful nobles often employ a troupe of them to entertain guests.

>>90326880
>More what, clowngirls or my art in general?
either really. It's cute.

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>>90326949
Very well, here's a stone age village of proto fire keepers during the ice age.

>>90272213
That's some drow tier viciousness

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>>90327972
NTA, but thanks. Do you have any more art on this topic, or is this it?

>>90327972
Didn't you have like 15 threads of art?

>>90267064
A group of humans in my setting are of course in constant conflict. Due to the massive amount of male warbands leaving their cities and lands, married women take their own unmarried girls as “wives” and these married women take on the more traditional husband/male roles of the house or society until their husbands return.

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Amongst the sea faring folk, the noble families have knots like you would expect nobility to have crests. The women incorporate the knot into their braids. On marriage, their hair is undone and braided into the knot of their new family.

>>90328722
The traditional solution to this problem in human history is polygamy.

In fact, this is how a lot of other mammals live, with a pride/herd/pod/whatever being one male and several females he's boinking, plus kids; and other adult males leave and wander around in packs causing trouble. Some hunter-gatherer tribes also operated like this, and frankly so do the Bedouins in some places.

>>90328752
That's awesome.

>>90328363
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>>90328613
bump

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>>90328613
Like what this anon >>90328670 said, I made quite a few worldbuilding threads that I updated with my art. I'm due for another one soon but I injured my arm at the gym.

>>90269958
Petplay is fucking cringe, not all leashing involves that faggotry.

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>cute and comfy anon's back
>but he's posting in an obvious bumpfag thread
It hurts, is this our punishment for not giving him the respect he deserves?
>>90331460
>I injured my arm at the gym.
Shit man, that sucks. Hope you get better soon, and not just so you can make more silly scribbles for us all.

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>>90335781
Hey man, I think bumpfag is pretty cool, he doesn't go around cussing at people but tries to engage, even if he just comes off as a well meaning awkward act I protagonist.

>is this our punishment for not giving him the respect he deserves?
I feel like I've been given a healthy amount of respect.

Anyway, I'm planning to release this shortly, going back to cute and comfy times with a focus on the Lingdom and developing their culture and society.

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>>90338459
>>90331460
Can't wait to see it once you recover! Sorry to hear that you got hurt.

While I've spent quite a bit of time coming up with details for the cultures in my space opera setting, I haven't actually thought much about wedding and funeral customs. The only concrete details I have is that the species with a sort of Roman-inspired culture cremate their dead, preferably on a pyre, and the eusocial species doesn't bother with funeral rites or burials in most cases and just break down the bodies to be used as fertilizer etc., with the exception of the queens who have their skulls preserved, gilded, and displayed in a mausoleum. Individuals that perform some notable deed can have their names and deeds recorded for posterity and engraved on a monument, but there's no actual graves or personal grave-markers.

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>>90270035
I masturbate while posting.

I'm not OP but I wanted to let you know.