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Festive Gorg edition
>What is this?
/TG/ DEVELOPS A GAME.
IT IS CURRENTLY PLAYABLE.
EXPEDITION - an ~1870s era, Jules Verne-inspired retro-futurist, underground blood storm hellscape.
It is a Skirmish wargame. Two players with their own expeditions, on a hexgrid map, fight each other for victory.
A campaign mode is planned, and currently in the works. (you) are encouraged to contribute.

3 versions of the rules exist, TWO of which have been playtested:
>1e - proof of concept, recently updated with unit stats
>2e - lead by 2e anon, playtests started, ~75% done. Campaign system is developed here.
>3e - Replaced 4e because it died. Spearheaded by 3e anon, needs more playtests, rules present in the doc

>What can I do?
Shitpost, meme, get comfy. Read over the docs to settle in.
Familiarize yourself with rules and plan some playtests.
Contribute if you have ideas. Give feedback on contributions if you don't.

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> TQ : I'd like to settle the physical appearance of Gorgs, please post a description or comment on previous descriptions by other anons, we need to settle this down. Art would also be much appreciated. Also, since it is stated that Stink Juice is a fuel, what kind of industry do Gorgs have?
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>>91338794
>TL;DR Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LxdaGoBlJRTMuziMDupG5TeeFwNDnsIW2pfaRAcFDgA
>Main Lore Doc, including links to anon-written short stories and additional lore in "Recommended..." section
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRrxdD1BMLmcMDFeszwqg2Rcjrt8DDo7tjAxoOB6KQ8
>2e Main Rule Book, Expedition & Tokens. Mu, Duosicilians & Lemuria ALL NEW RELEASED!
https://app.mediafire.com/us7vnek39dc6k
>3e Rules Doc (READY FOR MORE PLAYTESTS)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ZpHhEyUbjt-SCx2xuAd0lyh7Rs4J7rK5kHkljqykhk/
> Unit Spreadsheet - Currently outdated, requires an update
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rcleQtrT4Q0INiBW50-kq2ZXWJ-cjLOeVTLTJg_oX5E
>Unit Design Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n0X89OdMPXJKQGm6kYcOABjhjE4NZER1fvmpDmDX1JA
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REJECT MODERNITY
EMBRACE GORG
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>>91338816
Hey, that's my job!
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>>91338794
>> TQ : I'd like to settle the physical appearance of Gorgs, please post a description or comment on previous descriptions by other anons, we need to settle this down. Art would also be much appreciated. Also, since it is stated that Stink Juice is a fuel, what kind of industry do Gorgs have?
Stink Juice is confirmed as being from Stink Beetles. To settle this, I propose is the liquid inside Stink Beetle eyes. Beetle Eyes like fruits to the gorgs, but also bio-fuel. They're beetle farmers.

As far as aesthetic, the horned helmets obviously, but I've always imagined them as having very pale skin. Sort of like white goblins.
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>Why are they called Stink Beetles?
>Not because they stink, that's for sure. That name was given to them because of their close relation with the Stinker Gorgs. That's what scholars of New Mu told me.
>How did the Stinker Gorgs get that name, you ask? Why, the scholars of Atlantis informed me it is because they breed Stink Beetles.
>These revelations were as confusing to me as the history of Agartha itself. Nothing makes sense down here.
>As far as I can tell, as far what came first, Stink Beetles or Stinker Gorgs, the beginning is the end is the beginning.
>It concerns me that we find the same patterns down here, in so many places.
>But, such things I dare not ponder. Perhaps men more mad than I will take up such pursuits.
>Memoirs of Elbert Mills, British Naturalist
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>>91338890
>white goblins.
Shouldn't they be big tho, bit above normal human height?
I thought a lot of them were fat. The more horns the more swole?
Pale skin works. Lee-Dher has beady black eyes, might be an artefact of the pixel art, but we could also say that's a normal feature?
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>>91339195
>Shouldn't they be big tho, bit above normal human height?
I've always imagined them as smaller.
Maybe they have a Cuttlefish-like thing going on where half the men are gigantic and half are smaller than the females.
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I don't suppose that Fraggle Rock Gorgs are in the running for possible appearances types?
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>>91341545
>I don't suppose that Fraggle Rock Gorgs are in the running for possible appearances types?
we don't talk about the Deep Gorgs...
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WHO HATH SUMMONED ME
WHY HATH YE CALLED MY NAME
THE ACCURSED LONE-HORNED GORG OF THE GREAT DEEP, THE HIDDEN LAYER'S KING
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>>91339313
Ok, so we should settle down their size before I make the World entry book. Other anons please chime in.
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Got a good amount of work done today on the World book, started filling up some entries for the USA and Britain, as well as wrote up Old Mu and the Lost Men.

Old Mu
Old Mu is an ancient, reclusive monarchy of eldritch monsters from the deepest depths, degenerated subhumans and those few Deepfolks foolish enough to seek them out and pledge loyalty to them. Described as a tenebrous, hellish place even by the emissaries of Old Mu who call it home, no Epigean is known to have returned from a “visit” to its home in the 7th Layer.
Lemurians, with their typical disregard for danger, attempted on multiple occasion to colonize it, each eventually failing. It is now a tradition for its shamans and greatest warriors to brave its dangers and return with the hide of one of its monstrous inhabitants. On the occasions these are willing to boast about such dangerous treks to Outlanders, they describe a ruined metropolis of impossible size, overtaken by the long dead roots of giant mushroom forests, in which the Mu courtiers and priests go about their affairs, unfazed by their crumbling environment. To hear them, Old Mu is a dying civilization clinging on to their last breath.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Old Mu can still be found pulling the strings behind many events that are facing both Colonials are other Deepfolks. And thanks to the tithes paid by the expanding New Mu cities, the royalty’s coffers have never been so full (both in gold and corpses, which seems to be very valuable to them, for an unknown reason).
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[cont.]
It is ruled by an ancient duo of powerful Shadow-born beings, named the Nameless Khan and the Mother Unknown. Contrary to other members of Mu “royalty”, these two involve themselves directly into the day to day affairs of New Mu, and are often visiting the higher Layers while wearing a human form. Enough reports of battles involving the Khan and what happens when he is sufficiently wounded exists that most Colonial power accept their supernatural origin as a fact. Whispers traded in the best informed (or most schizophrenic) Epigean esoteric circles suggests the Nameless Khan and Mother Unknown have long ago made a pact with an entity from the Void beyond the Firmament, known as the Star Ancestor. They see the known “fixed” reality as something akin to a prison and the Void beyond it as a key to liberation. If this is true, it would be logical that in this they are in opposition to the more conventional eldritch forces which participates in the Loop.
Many of the denizens of Old Mu escape classification, being too unique or simply impossible to describe. The subhumans and Deepfolks from New Mu sent there always come back changed, both physically and spiritually, as Mu royals apparently enjoy experimenting on live humans through alchemy and grafting. Imaterii and Elois will also be seen walking (or phasing through) the streets. In some rare occasions, envoys from the Psysaur Clans will visit the Palace, heralding another Mu military campaign headed by a Saur stampede. Apart from these, Morlocs are the most common sight, having long ago struck alliances with the eldritch royalty.
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And the Lost Men.

The decade following the fall of the Vatican saw a strong flare up of demands for Scottish independence. Many of the Catholics felt that the British Crown should have set aside its difference with the Church and supported directly the Crusader camp in 1851. While the Twin Arrow Theory was not yet formulated, for many Scots, it was the simplest and most obvious explanation for the current state of the world.
These tensions escalated further when Highlanders veterans started being rotated back from India in the 50s. Repressing other independence movements didn’t sit well with many soldiers and officers who themselves shared similar notions.
A central figure soon emerged as a rallying point for these burgeoning rebels. One of the most outspoken and charismatic officers of the regiment had apparently a distant claim to the House of Stuart. Styling himself “King Malcolm”, more as a publicity stunt for the rebellion than a proper claim to the Scottish Crown, proved to be a very effective way in drawing both the attention of potential allies and that of the British intelligence. King Malcolm was quickly captured and held in a Glasgow jail for a week before armed rebels were able to mount a raid to free him. News of his treatment and of the more general repression against Scottish Catholics that ensued sufficed to push Avignon to reach out and offer their support to the rebellion.
British intelligence posit that the Church must have gifted Agarthan artefacts to the rebels, and that this would be how King Malcolm began his quest for Agarthan Science. They have no direct proof for this other than the seemingly supernatural ease with which King Malcolm’s rebels began avoiding capture after his escape.
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In the next four years, the “Malcolmite Resurgence” would see the rebels grow from a large band of outlaws to a proper force, apparently able to attack and retreat into thin air within moments. The distant success of the Sepoy Rebellion in 1857 finally convinced King Malcolm to step out in the open and publicly call for widespread resistance to the British, however this could not have come at a worst time. The Indian’s success forced the British to consider the possibility of losing surface colonies as they focused much of their efforts underground. This might be ultimately acceptable with India, but not with Scotland. Additionally, Avignon’s support immediately dried up as the French, unwilling to risk their current alliance with Britain, applied pressure for them to stop their support.
Left in the open and without supplies or recruits, the Crown’s logistical superiority began to grind down the rebels. Eventually, even one of King Malcolm’s own raids, until then all victorious, failed and the King was reported missing. Without leadership, the Rebellion was over before the end of 1858.
Yet King Malcolm still lives, having sought refuge in the Underground, where he assembles his forces once more. He has now struck an unknown deal with the Shadows for a portion of their power, and many attacks on both Colonials (British or others) and Deepfolks have been attributed to him and his mercenary force. Even more worrying to the British are the rumors that hold that he has met Napoleon, briefly fought with him and then walked away. Regardless of the reason, the similarities in the methods taken by the two figures are too close for the Crown’s comfort, and even the simple potential of an alliance between the two rivals is seen as enough justification to send military expeditions to scour any area where mentions of the King surfaces.
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>>91343204
>Ok, so we should settle down their size before I make the World entry book. Other anons please chime in.
I honestly like the men having dimorphism between small and large, while the gorg femals (which are never seen) are all the same size.
We have examples of this on Earth as selection strategies.
In some species where mating rituals involve combat, some of the men evolved to be smaller so they could just walk right past the warring males and right into the women's den while the chads fight it out. Them getting first pick of the females was a reason the strategy was successful.

Since some people imagined them as small and others large, its an elegant solution. Also opens up the opportunity to have BIG GORG and small gorg units.
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>>91344194
What's the ETA on the world book finishing?
I'll try to set some time aside to do a full edit of it when the first draft is set out.
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>>91346242
>What's the ETA on the world book finishing?
Its hard to tell, I've been able to add to it every day consistently in the last week, yet I also keep adding more sections and reworking those already there. I feel like if I could keep it up I might be able to post it by the end of the weekend, but that might be overly ambitious. One good writer's block and that's fucked.
>I'll try to set some time aside to do a full edit of it when the first draft is set out.
That would be much appreciated. I don't know if age has started catching up to me mentally but I feel I wasn't making this many dumb mistakes or that my sentences weren't so stiff and repetitive only a year or two ago. Any improvements you can bring will very much appreciated.
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>>91346909
>Its hard to tell, I've been able to add to it every day consistently in the last week, yet I also keep adding more sections and reworking those already there. I feel like if I could keep it up I might be able to post it by the end of the weekend, but that might be overly ambitious. One good writer's block and that's fucked.
You are under no pressure to finish, and yes, know that you have an editor when its done.
I might not be able to get to it immediately, but if you finish it I'll put it on the list of things to do.

>but I feel I wasn't making this many dumb mistakes or that my sentences weren't so stiff and repetitive only a year or two ago. Any improvements you can bring will very much appreciated.
Everything needs editing, no matter how careful you are. At the very least I can do a quick pass for style.
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RIP festive snow.
Happy soon to be new year, bros.
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Rereading the initial docs last week reminded me that anomalies are are a thing, and it feels to me they should have a small section in the World Book, to flesh out what sending an Expedition in might be facing. I'm gonna try and lift as much as I can from current lore but since a lot of this is pulled out of my ass again if it doesn't feel like it fits, or you think of better names (I didn't exactly feel super inspired there), please go ahead and suggest something.
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Anomalies

As previously stated, the rules of reality tend to bend and eventually as one goes deeper into Agartha. This is exemplified not only by the spiritual and physical effects on living beings, but also by the frequent anomalous experiences of Deepfolks and Epigeans alike as the explore the underground. Many of these are tied to specific locale, while others are bound to physical objects, or seemingly happen at random. Theories as to what provokes these ‘anomalies’ abound, ranging from the religious to the metaphysical. Adherents to the Gano-Ducksworth Loop theory tend to assert that a force analogous to pressure applies itself on reality as a whole as it is contained within more Layers, and that this force is as well responsible for Deep-Drunkness, Husking and Corpsification. Regardless of the truth, that these anomalies causes nearly as many losses to colonial efforts as attacks from the Underground’s denizens and fauna is a fact acknowledged by almost all Epigean powers. France, Britain and the USA in particular have an agreement to share efforts in documenting and mapping every anomalies they discover (once each power has thoroughly studied and assessed the anomalie’s potential for application, of course).
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>>91348103
>please go ahead and suggest something.
>Anomalies
You mean THE HIDDEN LAYER IS BREAKING THROUGH
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Fold

Epigeans have learned to deal with the extremely contradictory reports they get on distance and time necessary for travel underground by blaming these inaccuracies on folds. The term has been used to describes both specific experiences of time&space loss/compression during travels which have not been reproduced as well as areas where these seems to happen consistently, and thus a proper classification is still in the works.
Simply put, a fold is an instance of travel which takes either less or more time and distance to travel than it should otherwise. Stable geographical folds that accelerates travel have long ago become one of the main geopolitical tension point in Agartha, as they greatly facilitate travel and trade, and Colonials have recently begun putting additional focus on acquiring intelligence on them from other Deepfolks.
It is sometimes claimed by eccentric scholars that all travel underground involves some degree of folding. Paris for example, should have taken weeks if not months to reach its current depth at any speed that would not have left the city in small pieces. This is of course the point at which proponents of the Twin Arrow Theory like to remind these lunatics that God doing it seems a simpler and more likely explanation for these mysteries.

> Also I was lazy sorry for the Slop art please suggest something better if its too grievous.
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>>91348121
Amber

Ambers are the most commonly encountered anomaly, and luckily, the easiest to spot and avoid. These take the form of small bright fires seemingly lighting up on the ground, walls or ceilings of a cave without any fuel. As they do not manifest in an occupied space, burn at high temperatures when they start or spread even when in contact with flammable material, they represent very little danger at this stage. It is only when an amber begins to compress, burn redder and with more of an audible crackle that care needs to be taken, as it is a sign it is reaching toward the end of its “lifecycle”. Eventually, the anomaly reaches a point where its size can no longer contain its energy and expands rapidly into a bright orange deflagration, typically causing death or grievous injury to those within two to three meters of it, and light to severe burns to those up to ten meters. Ambers cannot be handled physically or used in industry, they are pure flames. Pouring water on an nascent amber is the simplest and most obvious way to neutralize it, but this is generally done only in colonized areas, camps or around frequently roads, as the rest of the time one can usually tell immediately by looking at it if an amber is anywhere near exploding, and when it isn’t you can safely walk right by it.
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>"The Firmament Below"
>Anomalies are cracks and distortions in it.
>Cracks that might reveal the way to The Hidden Layer
>Something of an Agarthan El Dorado
>Anomaly Hunting is an ancient Agarthan superstition and tradition. Total crackpots who might be right.
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>>91348171
> on the docket
> Flash : floating spark that cyclicly goes into flashbang mode
> Time Trap : as a more unique form of time anomaly, feels like it needs its own section.
> Star Ancestor's Trail : The Star Ancestor is only known by the traces it leaves behind. Which is none, he just burrows through reality and erases it wherever he stands. Reality seeps back in and cauterize the area after, but nothing ever regrows there, not life, not minerals, nothing. They can make for good, if very eerie shortcuts.
> Penumbral? : Place where Shadows live? Or perhaps a place/time where if you die at a certain moment your shadow turns into a Shadow? Please pitch in.
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Bump as I work on more anomalies.
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What would a group of Atlantean scholars be called?
A court?
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>>91350326
A scholi, I'd say.
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>>91350326
Plato's Academy was called, well, an academy, and Aristotle's school was called the Lyceum. Both words are based on specific places in Athens, but we've established that there's plenty of influence from post-sinking eras of Greek history.
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>>91350658
>>91351509
>scholi
Seems good. Academy. Lyceum. Noted.
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>>91351509
if anyone would have an influence on Atlantis post fall it would be Plato that's for sure.
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When Epigeans embark on their first trek underground and read on the dangers of anomalies, they usually picture gory scenes of bodies pulled apart by gravitational forces, or spontaneously combusting. Some anomalies are not immediately or obviously harmful, yet continued exposition to them end up having dire consequences.
Flashes are the primary example of this. Small floating sparks of tangible light may sometimes be found in the lower Layers, usually beyond the 5th . Often mistaken for spores, the spark clouds however hold direct effect on health. They will however rhythmically release an intense electrical light, accompanied by a very short exploding noise. Flashes seems to ignite in response to movement or contact, and absent of these will remain dormant. Once ignited, it will “flash” every minute or so, and trigger other sparks in the cloud, leading to an accelerating cascade. Despite its intensity and resemblance to an explosion, it is again physically harmless. Many have also reported a strange sensation of movement in their head, as if something passed from one ear to the other. The danger comes from venturing forth or remaining for an extended period of time in an area filled with flashes, as only a few hours or days of exposition to the stroboscopic madness can suffice to induce something akin to shell shock into even the most resolute and experienced soldier.
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>>91353749
> Exploding Head Syndrome anomaly
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>>91350658
plural of schola is scholae. If you want to use the greek word, then scholioi could work better.
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>>91352514
>if anyone would have an influence on Atlantis post fall it would be Plato that's for sure.
An interesting thought...
What would Atlantis philosophy look like?
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Well, that would depend heavily on social factors. For example is atheism tolerated? If so Physicos (philosophers who claimed wordly events didn't have a divine origin at first, generally avowed atheists, a capital offense, sidenote the charges presented to Socrates at his trial are interesting because they aren't worded the same as would those of layed at a Physicos at the same time, but mostly meant the same... ) might be a popular school of philosophy, albeit modified to fit the Agarthan uniqueness.
While the Ancient Greeks had advanced knowledge and sciences in many fields (math, oratory arts, engineering, architecture, etc), they also lacked ridiculously in others (Greek medicine and biology in particular was a thought crime that left scars on the Mediterranean psyche for centuries after). It would make sense that the general negative opinion against sciences that didn't pay lip service to the Gods at every turn would turn out to hinder its development.
Since Atlantis shows signs of having developed its science much further, perhaps they've grown to a point where they aren't constantly suspicious of anyone doing experiments, as long as the scientists don't become too loud about denying the Gods.
Otherwise, I figure Atlantean philosophy would be split between a gnostic-stoic religious approach, another which resemble a mixture of Plato's creation myths (Timaeus in particular) but with Atlantean religious figures in place, and a gnostic-aristotelean metaphysics approach that skirts maybe too close too physicos territory most of the time.
I figure Atlan philosphy can be like Plato's Laches, except it actually is about if or not training your sons for war is the best science to give them, and who is better suited to do so, a great gladiator or a great general, not some weak ass triple-level allegory about the relation between action and thought or the fact that courage not being teachable breaks Socrates conception of psychology and education.
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>>91348121
Chromatic Shifts

On appearance the most inoffensive of anomalies, Chromatic Shifts are quite simply areas of the underground where lighting conditions are considered unusual, even by the standard set by the Inner Sun. This may take the appearance of a different hue or tonality, hardly perceivable with the naked eye or through photography, or of the presence of weird visual artifacts, sometimes completely overtaking a person’s visual field and rendering them incapable of any spatial navigation. Chromatic Shifts are nearly always associated with a specific area, often extending over miles.
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>>91356461
>For example is atheism tolerated?
I would say VERY no.
The Lemurs and Gorgs are atheist. We would never allow our society to descent to such pathetic depths.
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bump
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Trying to make a Ravenfield config for a few of the colonial factions. Anybody know any good mods for Armstrong guns or something like a Warp Lightning cannon?
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>>91362704
Sadly that's not something I ever explored.
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>>91362704
>a Ravenfield config
Sorry, what is that?
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Sorry I didn't get any progress done yesterday on the World Book, I've got a busy day but I'll try to squeeze in some time to continue it a bit.
If someone wanted to post an introductory entry on Atlantis, Lemuria Sky-Clans or the Tsardom that would help.
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>>91366643
Not a problem man. Sadly I don't have much free time myself to pop any entries in right now, but if you need some extra entries feel free to mark them as blank in the book and when I get to editing it, I'll try to fill them in.
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Thanks! I'll do that to post it as early as possible.
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>>91368009
Now I'm not the most versed in assorted DEEP LORE but I'll do my best to fill in any slots you aren't up to do with some compelling stuff.
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>>91368072
I'm 100% sure it'll be fine.
Aren't you the one that came up with the Warfare Existentialist lore anyways?
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>>91364520
A cheap, low-poly Battlefield clone with a lot of mods.
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>>91369121
Nah I've just done some editing sometimes.
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Sorry about radio silence on the RPG front.
I've been working on it, its just a lot of thinking and formulating, and very little postable progress.
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bump before work
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GOOD MORNING YOU CHEEKY SUBTERRANEAN FUCKS
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oh today was a good day. Didn't really finish any new entries yet (might do before tonight) but I managed to advance a lot of the ones that had been stuck with only a few sentences. I also started a quick glossary of terms.
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> MFW I realize its already 50 pages and most of it is half-baked temporary entries...
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> MFW I realize its already 50 pages and most of it is half-baked temporary entries...

> MFW I signed up to edit it.
I got you bro. Do try to keep it under 100 pages though, if you can...
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>>91381347
Oh it'll be under that, 100%. If I keep it growing it might as well become a bible of sort, and that's not useful for newbies.
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>>91381686
>If I keep it growing it might as well become a bible of sort, and that's not useful for newbies.
True true. And you can expect to lose anywhere between 5-20% of raw length in edits.
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What if the US is the first to invent smokeless powder in the timeline? It might make sense, considering the Franco-Prussian war doesn't happen (i think), but the Paraguayan War does. Considering what jungle conditions do to black powder, it might make sense for the US to be the first.
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>>91383994
I thought Veille invented gunpowder in the mid 80s, no? Not that I'm against the idea of having the US figure it out early I don't think that's too egregious of a change.
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>>91383994
I don't know about that, the US is kind of taking a backseat in this setting.
Not that it doesn't have an influence, and not that its a bad idea to make that shift so they gain some extra influence, but this is a rather Euro-centric setting overall.
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>>91385800
I wouldn't be opposed on working specifically on fleshing out the American continent, not necessarily just on Americans themselves. But regarding gunpowder what would be the point of adding it a decade early? Americans would already have an upper hand on many other Colonial power regarding firearms because of how much blackpowder they get access to, no (along with Brits)?
Also mechanically we can't really push guns much much further, not without having 0 Reload guns or ammo tracks, which I've avoided. Unless you guys have an alternative.
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Holy shit, this took way too long, but as promised, I wrote something for France. By necessity, this changes the Italian history a little bit, but not by much. The goal was to preserve most of the stuff already in the doc, but elaborate on it and avoid Charles L.N.B. becoming president. Mucho texto, I know, but there is a tl;dr at the end.
Reasoning for some specific changes:
Sinking of Paris to 1860 - to give Parisians more time fending for themselves and for symbolic reasons (30 years after the July Revolution)
Marseille Commune to November Revolution - as I understand it, Paris Commune was a very specific development linked to the Franco-Prussian War and the Parisian grievances at the time, like the lack of municipal self-rule, among other things. Other Communes were proclaimed in solidarity. Any socialist revolt happening earlier and under other circumstances would likely use different language.
Apologies for ESL grammar.
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>>91387070
>Apologies for ESL grammar.
As stated no time right now, but if I can get to it too I'll cleave through it with some edits.
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>>91387070
Holy shit did you mistake your endterm papers subjects or something? This is awesome. Will go over it with whatever little free time I can find today and tomorrow.
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>>91387070
Its really good. I'll do another pass but I couldn't find anything that seemed out of place, either from a historical or setting PoV.
I will be replacing the entries in the World book appropriately.
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>>91338794
Happy New Year /eadsttcoteg/!
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do they even have years in the underground?
isn't time tracked by the breathing of the deep sun?
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>>91395422
Time is tracked in SLLI
Since Last Lemur Incursion
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>>91396363
>Since Last Lemur Incursion
wait, those are regular?!
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>Beanstalk Control with Orcish Bowmasters is the #1 deck in legacy now
its ogre
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>>91396568
Someone didn't read the assignment...
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>>91390074
>>91391272
Thanks a lot! I'll edit the lore doc in the meantime then.
And Happy New Year, everyone.
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NEW YEAR BUMP
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>>91398298
So, its too big for the France's Worldbook entry, unless we shift and decide to make France the official protag, but this will do 100% as an intro to the Expedition book itself, which I've meant to eventually add lore to, not just keep as a roster.
The Fallen Paris part however will fit perfectly for its own entry. I've edited the timeline to reflect your changes, will post it soon.
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>>91387070
Could we get this as an editable word doc?
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Fallen Paris Worldbook entry

When Paris fell, the city was in the middle of a revolt. Suddenly the people on both sides of the barricades found themselves trapped in the darkness, struggling to survive in a strange and hostile land. Almost immediately they were under the attack by the Deepfolk survivors, whose settlements were destroyed by the collapsed Ile-de-France. The revolutionaries, the royalist troops sent to suppress them, and regular men and women from every walk of life now had to reconcile their differences and fight side by side.
After repelling the initial onslaught, Parisians came together to elect the Municipal Council and the Executive Committee. There was much work set before the new municipal government: tending to the wounded, securing provisions, training and arming the militias, erecting fortifications and so forth, all while heavily pressed for time and resources. The government had to resort to some drastic measures, like implementing strict rationing. Parisians even had to resort to hunting the animals that escaped from the city zoo, not to mention all the dogs, cats and rats. The government also took over the running of the city’s industries. Initially Paris was run almost like a Bronze Age palace economy, but gradually currency recovered from the Bank of France was reintroduced. Virtually every citizen was expected to fight if need arose and due to manpower shortages even the Parisian women often had to take up arms. Yet by coming together the people of Paris triumphed over great adversity.
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When the Deepfolk struck again, they were ready. Not only were the Parisians able to fend off the new attacks, they were soon chasing the attackers to their hideouts. They could very well have destroyed what was left of the Deepfolk, but following some successful attempts at wordless parley that resulted in an exchange of captives, some voices called for mercy and peace. As the language of the strange underground people was partially deciphered, it became clear that the Deepfolk had their homes destroyed, just like the Parisians have. They were also frightened and fighting for their lives - their myths and legends foretold cities falling from the Undersky as the first sign of the coming end of the world, and they took the Parisians for “demons” that would bring it about. In the end, the two peoples came to an understanding. The Christmas Truce of 1861 saw the Deepfolk welcomed into the city, forming Parisian Integrés community. The first generation of Agarthan Métis was born soon afterwards. To this day the Integrés and their descendants enjoy a privileged status among the other French colonial subjects and can fairly easily get naturalized as French citizens.
In their years of separation from France, the people of Paris would go on to face many other challenges, as Yazata raiders, hungry Gorg hordes, Morlock swarms, rampaging dinosaurs and other foes would attack the city. The Lost Years, as this period came to be called, gave rise to many stories of heroism, ingenuity and survival, like the Defense of Fort d’Issy of 1861 and the Great Tyrannosaur Hunt of 1862. In the Flight from Zalmun, the same year, Parisian captives led by young Leon Gambetta escaped from the Yazata sky fortress by stealing one of their aircrafts.
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But the hardest of trials came in 1863, when the city faced the invasion by the renegade Atlan general Philobastres and his host of loyal Atlan warriors, Deepfolk followers and slaves and Yazata, Mu and Apemen mercenaries. Parisian militias and their Deepfolk and Amazon allies waged a guerilla war through the countryside as Philobastres’ army marched towards the city, harassing the enemy with traps, ambushes and hit-and-run attacks by the bicycle troops and the skyriders. When the invaders entered Montmartre, the Parisians fought at the barricades and assaulted the foes from the rooftops and the alleyways. As they retreated, squads of women known as pétroleuses poured oil and set the city on fire. In the end of the Battle of Paris, Gargantua, the city’s first tame diplodocus, stampeded through the enemy ranks, trampling Philobastres, but was mortally wounded in the process. A statue dedicated to Gargantua and this victory now stands on the Montmartre hill.
Paris remains a highly autonomous city, a bit of a world onto itself, and the Parisians value this autonomy very much. By the 70s they had developed their own peculiar identity and culture, shaped by their shared (and undeniably traumatic) experience of survival and cultural exchange with the Agarthans, from their peculiar slang to their scandalous social mores, like letting women serve in the armed forces, to the many local superstitions. The Catholic Church is particularly concerned by the heretical practices of the Parisian faithful, like the cult venerating prince Philippe as a martyr and the patron saint of the city (he was Comte de Paris, after all) with strange rituals of undeniably Deepfolk origins.
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The city is still ruled by the Council and the Committee, which invariably has the representatives from the opposing political factions share executive power. Paris is generally a republican stronghold, flanked by the socialists on the left, and the Bonapartists on the right, but some enclaves of royalism remain, and all of them inevitably come to blows in the political arena. This means that few decisions are made without some prolonged and heated debates. The Parisians themselves treat this “rugged cosmopolitanism” as a part of their history of coming together in the face of adversity and a point of pride, even if they personally hate the people they disagree with.
The city was rebuilt and renovated in a style similar to the Pombaline reconstruction of Lisbon after the earthquake of 1755, giving it its modern look. Yet some districts remain slums full of ruined and makeshift housing and infested with the infamous Parisian gangs.
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>>91402791
Nice work.
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>>91401923
Obviously I never intended you to fit the entire thing anywhere, especially the parts with actual French history before the POD. Just keep the basics in mind and use infro from it if you think it makes a good entry.
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>>91402481
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tFfsca-BKUPcTJ5jx-LfU3iPIEQIE_dA
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>>91403414
Sweet. If I can get to edits, I'll get to them, but if the world doc gets posted it'll take a backseat.
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Revised Timeline

~5000 BC : Sinking of Atlantis
~4600 BC : Atlantis and Atlan reestablish contact. Start of the Eternal War.
~1600 BC : Various Mediterranean people are forced into Agartha following the many volcano eruptions of the Late Minoan period. Many eventually join Atlantis.
1542 : Arne Saknussemm leads an expedition and discovers Agartha, but all members are either loss or return insane and their account are discounted.
1799 : The French acquires the Rosetta Stone. Napoleon subsequently deciphers it and learns of the existence of Agartha.
1815 : Battle of Waterloo. Napoleon escapes and seeks refuge in Agartha.
1848 : Sicilian Revolution. The Carbonari, an ancient secret society with mysterious ties to the Janarae Cults enters an alliance with the southern Italian radicals and Freemasons and eventually takes its leadership. Cavaignac is elected President of France, and his government’s diplomacy insures the survival of the Duosicilian Republic.
1849 : King Ferdinand II is sacrificed to the Etna volcano. Establishment of the Duosicilian Republic (1st Abomination War).
1850 : Franz Joseph is murdered, Maximilian takes the Austro-Hungarian throne.
1851 : Conflict between Cavaignac and the conservative Assembly results in a royalist coup by General Changarnier.
1852 : Third Restoration under Henri V, with Philippe d’Orleans as heir.
1853-56 : Eastern War (Crimea). Henri V is too focused on countering Italian influence to lend support.
1854: Austrians align with the Ottomans. British begin Crimean campaign.
1855 : The Allies are stopped at the Chernaya River, and barely stop the Russians themselves over the Danube.
1856 : Crimean war ends in Allied humiliation. Russian secures the independence of the Danubian Principalities and Serbia, as well as assurances on Bulgarian autonomy.
1856 : Pius IX is assassinated, 2nd Roman revolt breaks out, Alexander IX is elected and calls for a Crusade.
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>>91406325
1856-57 : Italian Crusade/2nd Abomination War. France & Allies lose, The sacrifice of most Swiss Guards and Cardinal Clement to evacuate the relics and other Cardinals ignites the faith of Catholics around the world. Pope moves to Avignon
1857 : The Sepoy Rebellion. Lemuria moves to support India which leads to a British defeat. Emperor Bahadur Shah II establishes the Neo-Mughal Empire.
1857-58 : Malcolmite resurgence
1858-60 : Global depression. France’s defeat in the Crusade spirals into a prolonged economic and political crisis. The king’s response is particularly heavy-handed.
July 1860 : The 2nd July Revolution is aborted by the Fall of Paris.
1860 : The Duosicilians sacrifice thousands of dissidents, aristocrats and political prisoners to the Volcano Spirits. The Stromboli Entrance is revealed.
1860-1864 : Parisians are left fending for themselves and incorporate the Deepfolk survivors of the villages crushed by the Sinking.
1863 : Lidenbrock-Bjelke expedition.
1863 : Paris repels an invasion led by the Atlan exile Philobastres
1864 : Julius Verne’s Expedition reaches Fallen Paris and comes back.
1864 : Foundation of Sicilia Terza in the 4th Layer by the Italians.
1864 : Massacre of the Manchus of Beijing. Hong Xiuquian ascends to “Heaven” and return.
1865 : First French elections involving Paris, a new Constitution makes France a Parliamentary Republic.
February 1865 : The British seize Iceland for its Entrance.
April 1865 : Prussia and Italy declare war against Austria. (4th Abomination War). However a number of social and political issues begin plaguing the Italians, which prevents the war from escalating too quickly.
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>>91406334
June 1865 : Unsure of its military after the Crimean disaster, Maximilian I seeks a political compromise which the Italian leadership is only too eager to accept. Austria will pay the Italians a hefty price for access to the Stromboli entrance in exchange for Venetia and Trentino. On the other hand, Italy will renounce any further claims to the Austria territoty, and reform itself into a Monarchy. After a short but bloody civil war, Francesco Crispi becomes first Tyrant Francesco I. The Pope excommunicate Maximilian I. Creation of the Imperial Church. Increase in anti-Habsburg nationalism in the general austrian population.
October 1865 : Foundation of New Kirkwall in the 3rd Layer by the British.
1866 : France begins the construction of a series of elevators linking the Surface to Fallen Paris.
March 1867 : New Mu invades and captures Hokkaido.
1868 : Parisian Riots over economic issues presented by the reintegration result in an attempted terrorist attack on the Tower and the assassination of several preminent engineers. Eiffel takes over the construction project.
1868 : Foundation of the Pillar-City of Errum as capital of the Yazata Assembly of Sky-Clans.
1968 : Foundation of the Agarthan Society
1968 : Foundation of Maximiliana in the 4th Layer by the Austro-Hungarians
1968 : Foundation of Franklin in the 3rd Layer by the Americans.
1969-70 : Corruption scandals and several ministerial crisis allow the French Monarchist to regain popularity.
1870 : Completion of the Eiffel Tower
1870 : Foundation of Kitezh in the 3rd Layer by the Tsardom
1870 : Foundation of Wallace Point in the 4th Layer by the British.
1871 : Foundation of San Ignacio in the 4th Layer by the Holy League
1871 : Conflict erupt in Bulgaria over violation of its autonomy by the Ottomans. The Tsardom declares war on the Ottomans and Turkey and swiftly breaks both. Belligerents meet in Fallen Paris
A few months later, Murad V makes a coup and becomes Sultan.
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>>91406349
1871 : Foundation of Ys, Guyenne-Basse and {XYZ} in the 3rd Layer by the French
1872 : Italian Invasion of Ethiopia over a newly discovered entrance.
1872-73 : The Necropolis Event. Desperate to return his new Empire to its former glory, Murad V descends into Agartha and return with an army of undead.
1873 : French Campaign in Tonkin vs Lemuria
1874 : Tunisian and Greek expeditions in the aftermath of the Necropolis Event.
1874 : Foundation of Valdiagartsk in the 4th Layer by the Tsardom
1874 : Foundation of Fort Wellington in the 5th Layer by the British
1875 : A La Ombre plot is uncovered in France’s military. Charles L.N.B. is initially implicated but later acquitted.
1875 : Foundation of Libertalia
1875 : Foundation of New Alamo in the 4th Layer by the Americans
1875 : Foundation of Ezana in the 3rd Layer by the Holy League
1876 : Ethiopian Crusade
1877 : Foundation of Kagoshima-No-Yomi in the 3rd Layer by the Satsuma Domain.

Are we also moving the Italians invading Ethipia further, or do we keep it in 72 and the Crusade in 78?
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The story of the Analytical Engines is the story of Babbage.
Henry Prevost Babbage.
Henry had grown up with his father, Charles, who worked often on designs for computer engines. He had tried to help but lacked the spark of his father. This was soon to change however, due to one of those odd quirks of fate:
Henry Prevost Babbage was an officer in India during the revolt.
His fellows blamed their failures on the Tsardom, poor weather, the troops, anything except the supernatural. Those who did accept Lemurian influence for what it was still couldn’t understand or counter it. But after an encounter with a prophet, Henry began to have ideas. After the rout from India, Henry fought the Malcomites in Scotland. Here too the influence of prophecy was felt. Corresponding with his father, and later with many more influential mathematicians, Henry developed a series of complex formulas to predict the motions of the Malcomites, drawing on everything from historical data to weather patterns and bird migrations. Later in life, Henry would admit that he also drew from Occult texts to develop some of these equations, including several anonymous and highly revealing letters delivered to him.
The first model derived by Henry was often correct, but the answers provided were hard to decode and even harder to calculate. By the time any predictions were made, they had already come to pass. Only one calculation ever had any impact on the Malcomite Rebellion, successfully heralding Malcom’s final raid on an English stockpile hours in advance. Seeing promise in the technique, Henry and his Father began developing a specialized engine to calculate the formula. At first, it seemed the strain placed on the machines would always cause them to snap apart, but after years a solution was found in a titanium alloy. In 1867, “Ada” was put into operation. Funded by the Military and Royal Society, the house-sized engine successfully predicted the winners of a local horse race one day early.
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Funding their project through investors and gambling predictions, the Babbages began to make smaller and more multipurpose engines. Soon, they started selling them. This in turn sparked an “Engine-Mania.” Just as with railways decades earlier, it became fashionable for any investor to buy up engineworks. The only difference is that the Engine bubble has yet to crash. Each time the market slumps, a new use for the engines is found and the stock prices continue to rise. Foreign complaints that being able to predict markets presents an unfair advantage have been ignored so far, though Engine-based stock companies are banned in several foreign exchanges. The government meanwhile banned the export of engines, and later the emigration of Analytical engineers altogether. Foreign attempts to recreate the engines, even with supposedly legitimate plans and components have failed, sometimes with catastrophic results. Arguments over whether this has a supernatural explanation or one rooted in espionage rage to this day. Attempted American usage of Analytical Engines has been blamed for falsely calling a presidential election, or even accidentally altering the results. Monsieur Eiffel has famously quoted “It seems to me that there is little rationale regarding these engines” after finding several flaws in Henry Babbage's first equations. When corrected to follow conventional mathematics, the engines cease to work, leading to great academic debate.
Analytical Engines helped fill the economic hole India left in the British Empire, but many believe that they are becoming a crutch for the nation. Critics point to Lloyds of London, claiming that firing all their adjustors and hollowing out the Royal Exchange to fill it with a vast Engine is a perfect example of the deleterious effect the technology is having on the nation. Lloyds responded that such claims were an exaggeration, as the building still requires a small staff and the facade was largely undamaged.
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In Agartha, Analytical Engines are seen in two varieties. Those attached to the more prosperous colonies to handle day to day predictions, and a portable variety taken on expeditions. Travelling Engines are miniaturized, economically made, and have exceptionally lightweight alloys. Nonetheless, they are still larger than a man and heavier than a horse. While larger engines might gently jam on a calculation, Travelling engines will send gears and springs flying like knives. Redundancies mean it can endure a few failures, though operators may not be so lucky.
Travelling engines predict within a small timeframe and range, limiting their utility. They can point out the location of a trap, enemy positions in battle, the weakest part of a wall. But beyond the span of a few minutes predictions become unreliable. Combined with the weight of the engines and the high wages of their operators, they don’t find a place in every British expedition.
Most Agarthan nations view the engines like any other Colonial technology, as something to be smashed or stolen. Atlan scraps the Titanium and enslaves the operators, Atlanteans keep them as trophies, and Mu tends to leave them in favor of looting bodies. Lemuria however views the Engines as the highest anathema. Britain is their chiefest rival of the Surfacers, so for them to use their own techniques against them is a grave insult indeed. The prophets especially fear what the engines could represent for themselves: obsolescence. Operators are cultivated as an example, their engines smashed, burnt and buried. Britain firmly denies any connection between the superstitions of Lemurians and their technologies.
There are rumors of those who hate the engines even more than the Lemurians. Experimental long-term predictions have returned results including “Iridescent,” “Tripod,” or even “Firmament.” There exists a fifty-year limit to predictions, after which point none can be made. And strangely, each year the limit decreases.
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I had some free time and the fact that Babbage's son who tried to continue his work OTL was ALSO an officer in India around the time of the revolt was too good to pass up.
As for the revealing letters, maybe they were sent by Napoleon, or the Fateless, or time-travelling robots, or Jump Man.
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>>91406325
>>91406334
Some minor remarks
>he Carbonari, an ancient secret society with mysterious ties to the Janarae Cults enters an alliance with the southern Italian radicals and Freemasons
Carbonari weren't ancient at all kek. I'd rephrase it as
>Janarae Cult of South Italy enters an alliance with the Italian Carbonari remnants, Young Italians and Freemasons and eventually takes over their leadership
>February 1865 : The British seize Iceland for its Entrance.
Pretty sure it was 1864? It even flows seamlessly into the Schleswig War and the subsequent Austro-Prussian conflict going pretty much the same
Speaking of
>April 1865 : Prussia and Italy declare war against Austria. (4th Abomination War). However a number of social and political issues begin plaguing the Italians, which prevents the war from escalating too quickly.
Any particular reason it's 1865? It seems to work well enough with the historical date of 1866. Also, Italy did take Lombardy in that war, the issues start after.
>June 1865 : Unsure of its military after the Crimean disaster, Maximilian I seeks a political compromise which the Italian leadership is only too eager to accept. Austria will pay the Italians a hefty price for access to the Stromboli entrance in exchange for Venetia and Trentino. On the other hand, Italy will renounce any further claims to the Austria territoty, and reform itself into a Monarchy.
Likewise, I can see it happening after 1867, when the Austro-Hungarian compromise would be signed and that whole mess figured out, so in 1868 maybe.
Also the way it's writen implies the Italians are giving *them* lands, which is not true. It's Austrians giving up Veneria+Trentino for the Stromboli access.
>Are we also moving the Italians invading Ethipia further, or do we keep it in 72 and the Crusade in 78?
They are the same thing? The Crusaders help Ethiopia fight off the Italians, that's the Crusade.
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>>91407093
Also, on Ethiopia. I suggest the later date, 1876 for certain reasons. From what I understand parts of Ethiopia, including the Eritrean coast, were Egyptian dependencies. Hell, Ethiopia in general did not take the shape we're used to until late 80s, but I suppose the northern part is what matters, Axum and all. Now, Necropolis Event would certainly give the Ethiopians the opportunity to claim those lands, but that means that Italian invasion/Crusade has to happen after, not before.
Also, I'll reiterate that it makes more sense now to switch Vladiagartsk and Kitezh in the timeline, since Vladiagartsk is under the Urals and is a proper colony, whereas Kitezh is under Verkhoyansk and is a prisoner dump.
Finally, since we're integrating Holy League into France, I suggest scapping the Pyrenees entrance and San Ignacio altogether. Ezana can be an Ethiopian settlement with heavy Franco-Papal presence maybe?
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>>91406947
Good shit, as foretold.
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>>91407093
>Any particular reason it's 1865?
I probably changed it at some point to try to spread events, 1865+ was getting busy, but since we pushed back to 1878 as the current moment there's no need for it anymore.
>They are the same thing?
Ok that's what I wanted to know, thanks.
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bump before bed
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Slow day, huh.
Once we bake I have a game report from New Years I can post.
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>>91413377
Ooh that's fucking awesome, thank you again for your service~!
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>>91413377
>Once we bake I have a game report from New Years I can post.
Fuckin' nice.
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baking
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