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You and Goto stare at Yamato so long she starts to get nervous.

“W-what!?” she stammers, clutching the Super Soaker like she might have to beat you off with it. “W-w-we're s-st-anding and w-walking and talking and... stuff,” she finishes lamely. “So what's so strange about ships being alive!?”

“Have you-”
“Ever think-”

You and Goto catch yourselves before talking over each other. He cuts his eyes towards you as a sly smirk scrawls across his face.

“So.”

“Mmmhmm,” you agree.

“An impasse.”

“A duel?” you offer.

“Do you-”

“Catan?” you venture.

“Fuck you for invoking the Dr. Who of board games,” Goto growls.

“Don't you mean the Battleship?”

Goto narrows his eyes at you. “Fill your hand you son of a bitch!

“W-what are you two-” Yamato tries to intervene, but it's too late. You and Goto are already drawing your hands back, cocked to fire -

“JANKEN PON!”

- and that fucker Goto wins with paper to your rock. You sink back into your chair, giving Goto the I'm-watching-you eyepoke - there will be a reckoning. Smug in victory, he turns to Yamato. “Hey, Yams?”

“Y-yes?”

“Ever think of how many guys jerked off in the rain locker?”

Yamato squeaks like a punctured tire, the pitch rising into inaudible ranges as her face turns beet red. She sucks in a breath, squeezes her eyes shut and bellows at you. “I WAS DOCKED THE WHOLE WAR THEY NEVER DID THAT ON BOARD-”

“They never touched the sides of the showers when they got in, did they?” Goto continues, voice lilting with unholy glee.

Yamato's tirade dies in her throat, her eyes popping open to stare at her commander in pure, unadulterated horror. You can watch the possibility, the idea dripping down her spine like a cold poison, paralyzing her body as it washes through her, ripping down everything she once knew.

“A Love Hotel,” you add-

“-full of SEAMEN!” Goto finishes with glee.
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Yamato lets out a fearsome cry as she crosses the room in a single bound, her bosom bouncing enticingly as she brings the end of the big squirt gun down on Goto's head. Eyes squinched shut, she keeps flailing away, the empty plastic water tank going boop~boop~boop~ as Goto keels over in helpless laughter. Thwarted, Yamato raises the weapon and begins pumping it up to pressure feverishly. You just recline in your chair and watch the motion intently. When Yamato notices your studious expression she freezes mid-stroke.

"NAAASTY!" she squeals, hurling the super soaker at you as she storms past, fists balled. She rips the door open and SLAMS it behind her.

From without the room you hear a muffled query.

"LEEEEEEEWD!" Yamato replies unambiguously. "LEWD!"

You and Goto are incapacitated with laughter for what feels like forever, slumping over his well-used desk till your head is swimming and your lungs are burning. Wiping tears from your eyes, you both slump back in your chairs and get a grip again.

Goto's still wiping at his eyes with the back of his hand, shaking his head slowly. “What did we do to deserve them?” he marvels.

“With Kongou, I'm guessing you were TurboHitler in a prior life,” you opine. “Maybe QuadHitler.”

“Seriously,” he says softly, his voice growing soft and thoughtful. “Even Kongou. They drive us absolutely mad at times - most times - all the damn time,” he rumbles, pitch plunging as his mind descends that caldera - “but... still. They're... they're all so...” he trails off, but you follow his thought, your mind lingering on your own girls. Sammy, a tiny little ball of heinous aggression - and yet capable of making you pause in your tracks just to smile at her when she's got a quart of ice cream all to herself, even though you ought to know better. Hornet, so quiet and serious and competent, but with that unstated yearning for appreciation and love that runs under the surface. You've wondered about her and her Black Arrow, at times - wondered if she'd have come back at all if VT-8 had been hailed as heroes, rather than luckless men who'd followed the footsteps of Picket's charge and the Light Brigade. They're all so... so alive. Even at their worst; even with Kaga glaring you down, with her old loyalties and demons running close to the surface, you can't say you really fear them - any more than any other man or woman with a weapon in their hand, that is, and often far less. You can antagonize the returned spirit of (arguably) the most powerful warship ever put afloat without a second thought because...
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“You may as well ask what brings Abyssals back,” you reply at length. “They're as intrinsically evil as our girls are good.”

Goto turns that over for a few seconds. He swivels his chair around to look at the wall, where the old black-and-white photos sit. “But we don't... do we?”

“Eh?”

He turns back to you, eyes thoughtful. “People, I mean. We never view ourselves or anything we do in a positive light, do we? Or damn rarely.” He reaches to the corner of his desk and picks up a small plastic toy decorating it - it looks like a tabletop miniature. You squint at it.

“... Warhammer?”

Goto chuckles in surprise. “Destroid Tomahawk to you, gaijin.” He sets it down. “Speaking of - ever counted the robots-turn-good stories versus the robots-turn-evil-and-eat-us-all stories?”

“Hmm,” you concur.

“Even with tsukumogami the concern was mostly, you know, don't piss them off too much when you throw them away,” Goto muses, turning the pewter miniature around between thumb and forefinger. “We've been writing stories about abyssals for a long, long time. Why not shipgirls?”

“... haven't we, though?”

Goto raises his eyebrow quizzically.

“Ever seen the Brave Little Toaster?”

“Sorry, I'm not really into Pokemon,” Goto returns with a sardonic squint.

“Uh, right. Old Western animated movie about living, talking appliances. Tsukumogami, basically, in a vacation cottage. They get tired of waiting and go looking for their master, who they love. End of the movie's got this song-”

“Oh, that one?” Goto wonders. “Think I saw that as a kid, in English class. With the creepy-ass magnet thing that chases them?”

“Yeah. Remember the song?”

“Who could forget?”

“Yeah. Not five minutes after a depressing song capping off a whole movie about items being abandoned, their owner shows up, risks his life to save his old appliances, and the ol' toaster hurls himself into the gears to save him.”

“Isn't that just tsukumogami all over again, though?” Goto wonders. “Pissed that we're throwing them away, with a happy end for a kids movie?”

You shake your head. “That's not it. Tsukumogami haven't been taken seriously by the populace for how long, now? As a religious thing, I mean.”

Goto shrugs. “Forever? Most people are technically Shinto followers but they've lapsed harder than a Tokyo tech worker, on average.”

“Right,” you reply. “And there was never an equivalent myth in the West. And yet with no reason to take the idea seriously, we go and make movies like Brave Little Toaster.”

“For kids,” Goto says.

“Did those themes seem weighed appropriately for kids?” you ask.

He shakes his head with a solemn, thoughtful frown. “And then there's Toy Story,” he returns. “The sequels dived into that pretty hard.”

“The third one, at least. The second-”

“It was okay, yeah.”

You glare at Goto. “How do you know all these!?”
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“Kongou loves memes,” Goto sighs. “So much. She makes sure to keep me current. If I could find out who's feeding her, I'd break my foot off in their ass.” He closes his eyes and rubs his face wearily. “Anyway... I think I see where you're going with this.” Leaning forward on his elbows, supporting his chin on folded hands, he gazes through the floor, dark eyes brooding. “Did we know, you think?”

You shrug. “It'd make sense.”

“Yeah,” Goto says quietly. “It'd explain why the sentiment was always there, even when the popular religion's philosophy had no room in Heaven or Earth for such things to fit. But then why did it take so damn long for... for this to happen? Abyssals and Shipgirls and the whole damned mess?”

“Chicken and the egg,” you reply. “What makes them alive in the first place? Do they come to life even if we don't give a damn, or is it a self-fulfilling prophecy?”

“It doesn't matter, in the end,” Goto decides. “One way or another... we knew. This whole time, we knew, or at least we hoped. And... we've always felt guilty. Tools, robots, whatever.” He unfolds his hands, still gripping the pewter model. “Most of these are humanoid shaped. These robots, in the mecha shows. For no good damn reason, but that we wanted them to be human-looking.” He turns it around and around in his hands, studying his own amateur paint job - likely done in his own childhood, before embarking on a grueling career that'd put him command of the real thing. “And we never thought we'd do right by them... did we?”

You sit in silence with him for what feels like forever, watching the little model being turned over and around in his fingers.

“I've been thinking about Naka,” he says, “ever since... ever since I found out.”

“... and?”

“You remember that speech I gave you the first or second day you showed up?” he asks. “You were sitting right there, and I boozed you up good, and consoled you to look at them as girls?” He finally sets his model down and produces said booze again. Ignoring the glasses, he just takes a strong swig right from the bottle, and hands it to you. It burns nice and horrible going down, and you decide it tastes like another.

“I remember,” you croak as you hand the bottle back.

Goto takes another swig himself, holds it in his mouth for a second, then swallows it with a slight cough. “Ugh. Yeah. Christ, I was stupid.”

“Not really.”
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“Really,” he retorts. “But Naka... it's Naka, you know? A real sharp wit, and-” he chuckles. “Such a wicked flirt, too. And I was watching her and every other one of 'em get shoved into the front lines as fast as we could - we were so desperate in those first few months, Settle...” he takes another swig, and passes the bottle back. He waits for you to finish coughing, and continues. “I wanted to anchor them, you know? To people. To humanity. To feeling, to care. And it worked, and then Naka got popular with that whole idol schtick and the fucking Brass Hats ran with it and I... got... busy.” He's staring at his desk forlornly, looking lost and guilty.

“That wasn't your fault,” you say sternly. “It was too much load for one man to handle. That's why they sent me here.”

“That's not the point,” Goto replies. “I was there when she was summoned. I caught her when she returned - first thing she did was stumble and almost fall flat on her little ass. And then I wasn't there for her when she needed it.” He reaches for the bottle and when you're a little slow handing it back he pricks you with his eyes till you surrender it. A swig, a cough, a gesture; pointing at you with the bottleneck. “You see them how I do, I know. I've seen how you act, heard how you talk. Yes, I hear a lot of what you say, Mr. Martyr.”

“Hey, now-”

“They talk, Settle. They gossip like gi-” he sniggers darkly. “It was a simple enough conclusion. War graves. War dead.”

“War souls,” you reply, a slight buzz already building in your head and fizzling through your blood. You take the bottle back and egg it along a bit.

“Yeah. Clear-cut enough,” Goto continues. “Soldiers, like us. Duty, drive, scars, regrets, more than their fair share, but nothing strange to humans.”

“Isn't all of it,” you sigh. The vague, awesome possibility that's been circling in your head since Parker played you the recordings is finally coalescing into something solid.

“Clearly not,” Goto agrees. “What gives 'em a soul, Settle? The intent of the builders? Three hundred young men bitching and moaning and hating and sleeping and joking and jerking off in one tin can? The adoration of a nation?” He drinks again, and takes two swallows this time. “The hell does this make us? Gods?”
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“Murderers,” you whisper. “Every time we scrap one.”

“Just like a God,” Goto opines. “Capricious and cruel. Upgrade your fleet to NTU and shitcan'em only a few years later. Why not.” He surrenders the bottle to you. “What about the sailors we lost? Where does all this shit start and end? What the fuck is going on!?”

You take three swallows yourself, and don't cough when you come up for air. Shaking your head as the room starts to spin just a little, you refute the question.

You're not qualified to answer.

Nobody who draws breath really is.

[ ] Tools are the expression of mankind's Godlike power; the ability to create and impose our will upon the world. From start to finish, keel to gunwale, the intensity and singular purpose of being required to build them draws on every element of a nation's industry and technical genius, and everyone's tax dollars are needed to make them manifest. What you told Shoukaku in that silly Gundam Diner ran deeper than you knew - shipgirls embody their nation's very spirit in a way few, if any, other thing or place can. No wonder then, that some turn bitter - when turned against their very purpose, or when thwarted from achieving it.

[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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> Second option

I'm on a phone, I can't quote it.
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>>200547
>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

This might have been better off waiting until wed
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>>200547
>[Z] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

Whatever they were before, they're more people than machine now, and they deserve better.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200547
>[ X ] Tools are the expression of mankind's Godlike power; the ability to create and impose our will upon the world. From start to finish, keel to gunwale, the intensity and singular purpose of being required to build them draws on every element of a nation's industry and technical genius, and everyone's tax dollars are needed to make them manifest. What you told Shoukaku in that silly Gundam Diner ran deeper than you knew - shipgirls embody their nation's very spirit in a way few, if any, other thing or place can. No wonder then, that some turn bitter - when turned against their very purpose, or when thwarted from achieving it.
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>>200547
[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

They are more than ships now, more than humans too, and we need to realizes this.
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>>200547

Seeing how we just went through the fact that ALL SHIPS have souls not just warships, both answers sound like they're missing the point.
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>>200547
>Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet
>the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet
>CV-8 Hornet

You dun fucked up now, fap angel.

Also, I choose:

>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200607
>You dun fucked up now, fap angel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hornet_%28CV-8%29
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>>200547

>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

Heavy shit, yo.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

Id argue this. It isn't until a crew gives them an identity that a ship gets its soul. Until that, it's a hunk of steel and wood. The actions of the crew give purpose and life to the ship.
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>>200616
You can't have videos of ghosts on a ship THAT IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FREAKIN OCEAN.

CV-12 Hornet is the one with the ghosts.
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>>200534
Don't forget the air conditioner at the start of the movie that an-hero'd and claimed they'd been abandoned.

And then at then end of the movie... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJHbJ5LCl5A
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>>200547
ISorry boss, but I think it's both to get a shipgirl, although either one is enough to make them alive. The drive of a nation combined with the blood, sweat, tears, love and dreams of the men and women who serve aboard them equals potential shipgirl. That's why only warships have come back. The intensity isn't enough for a freighter or noncombatant to come back in physical form.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

I mean, you keeps saying 'Blood of Heroes' PF.
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>>200606
second one has a point to that as even say non-warships have similar bonding. Even Fishing boats. But the current context is their shipgirls
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>>200547
>[ x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

Honestly this is something we already know, but this whole war hammered it into our heads HARD.
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It's #2, because #1 would demand all involved public works that have a place in the zeitgeist have a spirit, and Berlin Wall-tan has yet to appear. Ships have a crew who basically live there and experience the entirety of the human condition in micro, which is pretty unique.
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>>200631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjQd-6lB7-8 Old WWII footage was a thing.

Also the other Hornet didn't sink.
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>>200547
>[X] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200643
What about Titanic?
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>>200651

That's not what he's talking about. He means the current Hornet that's a museum ship, you know CV-12.
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>>200663
Whoops, you're right. My bad.
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>>200650
#2 implies that colleges and other such places of work and life would have spirits as well.
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If I take off that swimsuit, would she cry?
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>>200672
I suppose that's why you have the base Princesses in the canon KC.
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>>200547
>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200547
>[X] Tools are the expression of mankind's Godlike power; the ability to create and impose our will upon the world. From start to finish, keel to gunwale, the intensity and singular purpose of being required to build them draws on every element of a nation's industry and technical genius, and everyone's tax dollars are needed to make them manifest. What you told Shoukaku in that silly Gundam Diner ran deeper than you knew - shipgirls embody their nation's very spirit in a way few, if any, other thing or place can. No wonder then, that some turn bitter - when turned against their very purpose, or when thwarted from achieving it.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200547
>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200675
It would be incredibly lewd
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>>200677
Fleet-Activities-Yokusaka-chan anyone?
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>>200712
She's a big girl
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200647
>second one has a point to that as even say non-warships have similar bonding. Even Fishing boats.

A lot of this applies heavily to fishing boats as well. Sailors, especially in the modern era, are a rather select and highly-trained profession and they spend months at a time aboard their vessels. And ships are every bit the symbol of industrial and commercial might today as they are of military might. With 73% of the Earth's surface covered in water, ships have always been vital in trade and commerce. It was a threat to our commercial shipping that prompted the US to build its first true warships in the first place.

Now, I dunno if a rowboat hums to itself when it's alone, but a freighter sure does!
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>>200547
>[X] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200631

Shit, mybad, I thought CV-8 was the second Hornet. I forgot to double-check that.

>>200640

One of the best scenes. HE MAD

>>200677

DINGDINGDINGDINGDING
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>>200547
ITS TIME

SETTLE PROBABLY LIKES KOGASA

SHIT TASTE CONFIRMED YET AGAIN
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>>200724
I was referring to larger ones, though a lone fisherman might have his pole sooner hum to itself than the boat I'd admit.
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>>200547
>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200730
Thank you.
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>>200724
> they spend months at a time aboard their vessels. And ships are every bit the symbol of industrial and commercial might today as they are of military might.

Soooooo… World Trade Center hime when?
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>>200731

IT MUST BE HORRIBLE BEING SO WRONG
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>Those existential conversations on ask.fm with Roomba-chan about mankind's relationship with tools and how ahrd we think of them as human like us, Brave Little Toaster invoked
>The brave little toaster tsukumogami in Alice's Life Sucks
>The hints of it on the date with Shoukaku when talking about Space Battleship Yamato, and now we're back to the Brave Little Toaster again.
>planefag's gearing up for an Exalted game, where interacting with the little gods of objects and concepts is part and parcel of the setting and even part of his job as a Solar
It's really neat seeing this common thread of a theme through your stuff.
(already voted on phone, awake now)
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>>200742

THE SQUEAKING YOU HEAR IS ME BACKPEDALING ON THAT CONCEPT REALLY FUCKING FAST
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>>200724
So if I jack off while on a boat, don't clean up, and the boat sinks the next day then comes back as a shipgirl, will she demand that I take responsibility for making her prego?
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>>200750
>It's really neat seeing this common thread of a theme through your stuff.

Aaha, thank you anon!
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>>200751
eeki eeki?
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>>200752
>implying she has to sink
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>>200747
WHAT NEXT, IS HE GOING TO ADMIT HE LIKES REIMU
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Maybe warships are special because how how directly they keep their crews alive. Every ship does, but only warships are built to take bullets for their crews, and their sailors know it.

That's gotta form some kind of a bond, maybe *that's* the reason why there aren't any non-warships around? (And why pf doesn't have to write WTC-chan.)
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>>200647
>>200724
Oh crap, I wonder how many angry, crabby (lol) fishing boat kanmusu are tootiling around in the Bering Sea.
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>>200547
>[X] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.

Don't know if votes have been called yet. Can't bother to scroll down to the end of the page to check, as that would waste time.
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>>200547
>[x] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
souls growing like unclaimed laundry piles in a student dorm is a much comfier concept than WE ARE AS GODS desu
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>>200768
Everyone is still ignoring Titanic I see.
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>>200769
Imagine the accents on Canadian and US east coast fishing boats.
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>>200760
Answer the damn question. Will I create a mothership or not?

I need to know for science.
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>>200751

OH NO NO NO NO

YOU'RE NOT GETTING OFF THAT EASILY

[b]WTC HIME WHEN[/b]
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>>200768
Well there is the titanic, but that could definitely be a factor. You could also argue it in terms of the light cruisers being nurturing and protective of the destroyers they were meant to lead, or the whole Battleship Thing, but I think it's still only a minor influence, at most. We've seen enough of the girls to know that they aren't actually DEFINED by their ships.

Also, option 1 might apply to the warship girls themselves in terms of motivation, even if 2 is the most likely culprit for soul.
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>>200791
gg nerd.
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>>200768
Or it's just boats ATM because of whatever the fuck the Voice Below is.
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>>200677

Oh jesus, Rabaul, Truk, Malta, Pearl Fucking Harbor, hell Kure could count.

The list is pretty endless.
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>>200760
Since when is Jintsuu that busty?
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>>200797
We technically already got Iwo Jima
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>>200797

> Gibraltar appears as loli that stands in the base's gate jumping up and down all day and yelling "YOU SHALL NOT PASS"
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>>200804

So they don't have to be naval bases either, that's. . . kind of worrying actually. . .
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>>200747
I AM REPLYING FOR THE UMBRELLA
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>>200547

>[ ] Tools are the expression of mankind's Godlike power; the ability to create and impose our will upon the world. From start to finish, keel to gunwale, the intensity and singular purpose of being required to build them draws on every element of a nation's industry and technical genius, and everyone's tax dollars are needed to make them manifest. What you told Shoukaku in that silly Gundam Diner ran deeper than you knew - shipgirls embody their nation's very spirit in a way few, if any, other thing or place can. No wonder then, that some turn bitter - when turned against their very purpose, or when thwarted from achieving it.
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>>200791
WTC?!
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>>200819
World Trade Center
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>>200815
So, essentially any place of great bloodshed. Basically all of Europe and most of the American east coast but especially Virginia.
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>>200809
>loli
>not buff shortstack acting like a club bouncer
>"you're not on the list"
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>>200785
>botesluts with a heavy Newfie accent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWlIvfQTck
Lord help us all.
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I wonder.... what would Prelude FLNG's ship-person form be like?

http://www.shell.com/about-us/major-projects/prelude-flng.html

...is this ship even still in service in-quest, or have the Abyssals sunk it yet?
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>>200829
>all of Europe
>Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier Hime
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>>200827
WTC!
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>>200798
I dunno about outright busty, but a quick glance over the CGs gives me the impression that she's at least the biggest of her sisters.
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>>200829

Some parts of France have seen tens of thousands of casualties in every war between 1800 and 1945. Sometimes twice or thrice per war.

Those are going to be fun to live in.
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>>200840
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>>200840
>Sears Tower (Formerly Sears Tower)
Wat?
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>>200840
What about that ship that can turn itself 90 degrees with it's bow sticking out of the water?
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Okay, votes called!

Also, I'm thinking of adopting a more long-term approach to running threads; instead of doing it ye olde teegee style (fast updates in real-time,) just starting threads fairly early in the day to give me more time to write and updating them periodically through the day.

What say?
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>>200865
No fuckin' idea. Best size comparison image I could find.

>>200868
You mean FLIP?
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>>200865
Formerly sears Tower CHICAGO, ie there used to be more of them.
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>>200876
>Okay, votes called!
>Also, I'm thinking of adopting a more long-term approach to running threads; instead of doing it ye olde teegee style (fast updates in real-time,) just starting threads fairly early in the day to give me more time to write and updating them periodically through the day.
>What say?
Sounds like a plan, bossman.
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>>200868

That was a video game anon they don't exist I... think.
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>>200876
Well if you are here forever, adapt to the board.
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>>200876
That could be a thing to do, since the new thread won't likely be overwhelmed by replies while you're busy.
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>>200877
Yeah, that one.
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>>200876
>instead of doing it ye olde teegee style (fast updates in real-time,)
Personally, I'd say keep with this. Less 'ERMERGERD RAILROADING' bitching from the peanut gallery.
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>>200876
That's already what you do, fatty.
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>>200876
would be worth a try.
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>>200876

If it helps you write and plot better, I'm all for it man.
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>>200884
OH REALLY
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>>200876
How long between updates are you thinking?
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>>200888
But they'd do that anyway.
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>>200876
pls no
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>>200901

An hour or so. So the delays we often get anyway, but starting earlier in the day so I can get more updates in.

>>200898

If you could see how my head just... tilted to the left to stare at that. WHAT. HAS. SCIENCE. DONE.

>voted for option 2

Anon chose... wisely
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>>200876
Eh, maybe, this isn't quite THP yet. You'll still have the 72 hour autosage, but this board is still slow as fuck.
What puts me off the most about the idea is that I might miss votes if I'm not watching the thread constantly like I do anyway or if I'm not there for the start of the thread. Speed is still unfortunately important for any discussion heavy votes or write-ins, and you'd still have to call votes to actually take advantage of the writing time.
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>>200876
It at least worth trying out to see what happens.
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>>200876
Wouldn't be a bad idea; gives anon time to think, but doesn't that run the risk of the thread being derailed by something in your life and/or people missing more chunks (due to them having jobs/school)
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>>200918
So what would she be like as a shipgirl? Or that green peace boat, either or
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>>200918
>WHAT. HAS. SCIENCE. DONE.
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>>200547
>[ ] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>200918
This is already more than early enough as it is, there are days where I'd just be waking up when the thread starts if this continues. I'd prefer you sticking to the usual timeslot.
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>>200918
>An hour or so

So faster than usual?
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See, but at least with an hour+ between updates you won't be /expected/ to watch the thread like a hawk so you don't miss important votes, and with IDs, it's esy to catch a vote change or missed update and recount.
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>>200918
try it mang
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>>200876
i'm not keen. midnight to 5AM GMT two nights a week is tough already, i can't cancel my life to follow a quest
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>>200930
Also, if all floating objects are alive, what about USS Artisan, floating dry dock capable of working on Iowa class battleships? Or deep water horizon. I can only imagine Oil Rigs as being guys.
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>>200918
Hayashimo when?
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>every thread
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>>200939
>See, but at least with an hour+ between updates you won't be /expected/ to watch the thread like a hawk so you don't miss important votes
You totally will though? If you don't watch the thread and only check in every 20-30 minutes because it's gonna be a 12-hour marathon, the chances go higher and higher that you'll completely miss a new story post and wind up at the ass-end of the voting period, if not missing it entirely.
>>200962
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>>200962
Reminder that Virginia and Monitor get drunk fight, then wake up in bed together surrounded by hoop skirts and drapes
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>>200876

I can't say I like the idea of it. I like that I'm effectively tuning into the Fap Angel channel for an evening's entertainment. Drawing out out even longer sounds like it'd kill the mood. It'd de facto make me not bother with the threads, not if the gap between posts is even longer than it is now.

Of course, if it means we actually get more posts from you in terms of per week, then it might be a good idea, but it's definitely a tradeoff at best.
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>>200974
So would they bicker like an old married couple and then when no one's looking French kiss?
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>>200958
She's already in every update stalking Settle just out of view.
Planefag just doesn't mention it because it would be like mentioning the sky is blue every update.
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>>200918
Once an hour is fine. I usually only catch half a thread because of work anyway.
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>>200876
Dear god no, think of the shitposting.
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>>200918
SCIENCE HAS DONE GLORIOUS THINGS.
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>>200876

Starting earlier would make the quest more accessible to us Yuropoors, so I'm in favour. I need to make you flail in panic more often.
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>>200861

Whole areas around the Somme and Verdun promise to be spectacularly nasty.

Oh fuck. Auschwitz Hime?
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>>201009
>Oh fuck. Auschwitz Hime?

She'd wake up in the middle of modern Poland. She'd have a long, long journey to think about what to do when she finally reaches the German border.
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>>201009
>Auschwitz Hime?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but are not some of the concentration camps now temporarily converted into refugee centers?
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>>201022

No, she'd head to Israel to begin her awful work anew and fight Masada-hime to the death.

Yep, it's confirmed, I'm going to hell.
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>>201033

Oy vey, oy vey.
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>>201033
>head to Israel to begin her awful work anew and fight Masada-hime to the death.

As if the IDF wouldn't utterly flatten her en-route.

Lot of flammable materials in a concentration camp.
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>>201033
>Yep, it's confirmed, I'm going to hell.
Whatever gave you that impression?
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>>200747
Kogasa a cute.
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>>201033
>Implying you didn't earn yourself a ticket before hand.

Also I'm surprised you're asking our input on the pace change seeing how you didn't do so for the jump here.
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>>200742

You mean LPD-21 which is a cursed ass, haunted ass motherfucker that fucking blows to be aboard?
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Update where fatass?
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>>201053
>a cursed ass, haunted ass motherfucker

Have you tried feeding her kebab to placate her?
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>>201009
>Auschwitz Hime?

I did nazi that coming
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I'm late, have a thing
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Hey Planefag, Enola Gay-hime when?
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>>201053
>LPD-21
I completely forgot that this was a thing.

How much of her superstructure is made from WTC material?
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>>201075
>-hime
Not that high on the Abyssal totem pole.
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>>201075
>Hiromshima-hime
fixed that for you
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>>201074
I'm glad they managed to pull it out of the river in one piece, even if the pilot wasn't so lucky.
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>>201076
>How much of her superstructure is made from WTC material?

Just a bit under 7 tons, used in a part of the bow. So really, not much at all. Less than 0.1% of total ship mass.
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Does KCQ even *use* princesses and himes and what have you? I thought pf just did his own thing.
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>>201095
The P-47 is an enduring testament to Republic's engineers. Even if it will never fly again, they can still put it in a museum
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>>201104
What is the story anon?
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>>201100
...Well, that's pathetic.
>>201102
Fucking something took over Iwo Jima.
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>>201102

Not yet.
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>>201102
None of the ones from the game itself. Iwo Jima came back as something, and I think some of us took to calling her forgotten airfield princess or something, but basically no.
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>>201113
P-47 developed engine problems during a flight honoring the 75th anniversary of the "jug" and the pilot deliberately crashed it into the Hudson river to save lives on the ground.
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>>201113
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/28/second-world-war-plane-crashes-into-new-yorks-hudson-river
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>>201102

Well, we fought an Abyssal airfield, so...
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>>201134
The retarded thing is MSN misidentified the P-47 as both a "small" plane (which technically it is by today's standards), and a Jet (that second one was some dumbshit headline writer).
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>>201088
>implying she'd be an abyssal
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>>201033
Yes. You are.

You monster.
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>>200918
look at maverick hunter quest. the writing's excellent but the thread participation is only 25 or 30 posters. sometimes there are only two or three voters. i think a part of that is because people wander off during slow updates.
although it rather sabotages my strawman, that's not the whole problem; hunter command also goes to bed in the middle of threads, can't run a regularly scheduled thread, and sometimes his twitter goes silent for weeks. but at least he's not blorp
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>>201151
She's still around so there's that
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>>201128
>>201134
Ahhh thanks anons.
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>>201074
>>201104
>>201113
>>201128
Have a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbixjnhpt-U
>>201147
As to be expected from the braindead fucks that type up shit at the teleprompter.
>>201151
Then not that high on the spooky shipspirit crap totem pole. At best, Enola Gay would be some elite bomber unit.
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>>201075
Maybe no Enola Gay or Hiroshima, but what about poor Indianapolis?

If Indy came back as an Abyssal, I don't think I could even blame her given what happened to her crew and captain.
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The P-61 bounce coming back when?
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>>200876
Go for it. It gives us more time to post boats.

Pic related: Its an underwater frog
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>>201175
This reminds me, what's Harder's rig look like? Is it just him as depicted or does he have a set up similar to that?
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>>201175
The predecessor to the Swimmer Delivery Vehicle everyone.
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>>201172
>If Indy came back as an Abyssal, I don't think I could even blame her given what happened to her crew and captain.

>Indy comes back, mission of vengeance on those that tarnished her name
>oh shit the true culprits have passed on
>THE SINS OF THE FATHER PASS TO THE SON
>the entire US Navy is the target now
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>>201192
>watch Goya sink her again.
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>>201185
I think it's just him in his coat and swim trunks, similar to how the jap ones are just their swimsuits. Probably additionally with the sail on their backs since they've used their periscopes, and the accessories that phased in when he went full surface action.
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>>201192
Those that tarnished the name of her Captain so an Admiral could get off scot free.
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>>200531
>You've wondered about her and her Black Arrow, at times - wondered if she'd have come back at all if VT-8 had been hailed as heroes, rather than luckless men who'd followed the footsteps of Picket's charge and the Light Brigade.

Huh, so that's what the black arrow represents? I thought it might have been a certain flight of B-25s. VT-8 makes more sense in context though, considering Hornet nocked that black arrow when she was staring down Kaga much earlier in the quest.

Now I can't help but wonder if she has another 'unique' arrow for those B-25s.
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>>201172
I don't think she would know of what happened.
after sinking would she
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>>201175
Vive La France!
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Since the other guy has seemingly fucked off, I suppose I will take up his campaign. In which case...

>PLANEFAG
>LORD CLIVE WHEN
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>>201219
Over the objections of Nimitz and Spruance I may add.
>>201224
Erry and Terry are the ships from the fucking Franklin expedition anon. Not the monitors
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>>201220
>Huh, so that's what the black arrow represents? I thought it might have been a certain flight of B-25s. VT-8 makes more sense in context though, considering Hornet nocked that black arrow when she was staring down Kaga much earlier in the quest.
>Now I can't help but wonder if she has another 'unique' arrow for those B-25s.
Would she be as sensitive about the raiders though? They weren't as tied to her as her airgroup, they were never expected to make it back to her, and they died bringing hope back to the United States.
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>>201192
>>201202
I would hope that the fact they admitted the fuck up later, even if the captain killed himself before it could happen, might make her amenable to defection or at least neutrality.

This is assuming someone from the USN apologizes to her at some point before she falls to deep into the Abyss.
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>>201232
>Erry and Terry are the ships from the fucking Franklin expedition anon.
NO
FUCKING
SHIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVY8LoM47xI
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>>201185
Actually, looking closer at Iku's art she seems to have bits and pieces as hair ornaments. So his periscope probably shows up as an earpiece or attached to headphones or something along those lines, maybe, this shit's all weird.
Oh, he's even got a headset. It's probably on there.
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>>201186
I find your lack of knowledge on frog frigate-floozies disturbing.
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>>201243
That's an Xbox 360 headset. The shitty one that comes with it.
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>>201239
>Would she be as sensitive about the raiders though? They weren't as tied to her as her airgroup, they were never expected to make it back to her, and they died bringing hope back to the United States.

Not really sensitive about it, but holds it back considering she's only got one shot and once it's launched, it's not coming back?
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>>201243
Has Harder ever given an Abyssal a biopsy with those torpedoes of his?
>>201253
Thought it was that broad.
Fucking underwater aviation cruiser.
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>>201253
>Not getting I was just posting something randomly
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>>200547
>[X] There's nothing sacred or special about steel hammered and riveted into just-so shapes - until men make it their homes, their battle stations, their very lives for years on end. Tales of haunted ships abound, and you've seen the video of vessels like CV-8 Hornet, and the USS Salem - but all this time, we were wrong to view them as just another haunted house. Filled with so many different crew working and suffering towards a common goal, they become entities in their own right. Nobody can say when or how, but at some point, down in the bilges, hugging the keel, all those residual hauntings coalesce into the bitter mote of a soul. They're the sum of all our dreams and fears; they're simply Human, with all the beautiful wonder and vile horrors humanity's capable of. The tattoo Shoukaku showed you in that dark kitchen is just a symbol, and nothing more - she's nobody but herself, and the brave and loyal men who crewed her; not an agent or avatar of an Imperial Japan that is no more.
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>>201224
>LORD CLIVE WHEN

Small, slow, awkward, hilariously overgunned for its size?

Considering the PT corgies... Lord Clive comes back as a tapir?
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Navy-related:
https://news.usni.org/2016/05/24/19801

More development hell for the Ford-class CVNs.
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You sit with Goto, and think - for a good while.

“I don't think,” you say at length, “that we've got to worry.”

“And how the hell do you figure!?” Goto demands.

“If they were just walking graves... ghosts...” you muse, “we'd... be all weird about it. Hell, we have been all weird about it. But you said it yourself. We're just... comfortable around them, once we get to know them. You wanna ask when they get a soul, well, hell, the Catholic church and the pro-choicers still can't figure that one out, and until someone invents a soul detector, they never will.” You shrug. “When does a ship get a soul? They don't have it going into the yard. The steel beams and fittings aren't humming or singing or freakin tap-dancing. I say it comes from the crew - from us. You can't bottle up a few hundred young men on a boat like that, apply pressure and heat and expect nothing to brew up, you know?”

Goto nods - he was a Captain once, too. “You know how ships can... take a mood, I guess you'd say?”

“Where everyone in the boat seems to be happy or sad or pissed off at the same time?”

“Exactly.”

“Yeah. I know it.” You know it well, and more - how you get used to the roll of the vessel, the way the hull will creak just so in a heavy sea, the way the cooling fans on the nav computer will speed up just slightly when it's chugging its way through the weather radar's latest scan. Ships will talk to you, if you listen. Even if they can't...

Even if they

can't make

words.

“Ah~” Goto breathes. “There it is.

“... fuck you.”
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“All classic sailor stereotypes nonwithstanding, I'm afraid I must decline,” Goto says with a grin. “But now that we've got some hard evidence that shipgirls are their own unique entities and not just the Ghost of Martyrs Past clanking around the joint -” Goto leans over his desk with a predatory grin.

“Don't,” you warn him. “DON'T-”

Goto cups his hands around his mouth and shouts at your groin. “GO WEST, YOUNG PENIS!”

“This is revenge for bringing Kongou in here, isn't-”

“Oooh, no,” Goto growls, “This is just grins and giggles right now. You haven't SEEN punishment yet, you shitbird.”

“Speaking of punishment,” you sigh, “what are we going to do about these god-damned Yakuza?”

“Now there is a line you don't hear every day,” Goto replies as he unbuttons his collar. “Damn window - blinds won't hold in the A/C.”

“Base maintenance ought to have it replaced in a day or two. You could set up a laptop on my desk, if you want.”

“No need; we've got the glaziers on speeddial,” Goto grumps. “Kongou's pretty hard on windows.” He finds a pen on his desk and produces a notepad to start taking down ideas, spinning the pen atop of his hand. “Right. The bastards have us over a barrel and they know it.”

“I know the old saw about a man with a hammer,” you return, “but I'll be damned if these clowns don't look an awful lot like a nail.”

“Like I said, they're expecting that,” Goto replies. “That 'boss' you talked to took you seriously when you told him not to screw with you, I think - I sure would've. But you also telegraphed your next move; kicking in the Sumiyoshi's front door. So you can bet he's trying to exploit that. No matter what hammer you choose to go with, he's going to have some way to spin it against you.”

“Spin,” you snarl. “Spin, spin, fucking spin. Why can't we do some goddamned spinning every now and then?”

“It's a good trick!” Goto replies, and cringes as you take a pen from your breast pocket and fling it at him. “Sorry. Anyway. I think we already shat our own bed on that count.”

“How so?”
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“Stuff like what we did with Naka. An idol...” he sighs. “Absolute worst thing we could've done. Idols are obsessively stage-managed; they're controlled to an extreme degree at times. And of course the Yakuza have their fingers in that pie and everyone knows it...” he taps the desk with his pen irritably. “And we've made a big deal of the other shipgirls, too, the ones that are photogenic-”

“-aren't they all?”

“The ones that'll hold still long enough and won't try to molest the cameraman or wander off to chase a butterfly,” Goto amends. “But they're pretty much seen as our PR assets, now. Anything they say, anything they do will be seen as words we put in their mouth.”

“... so even if Yamato-”

The defining symbol of Imperial Japan's might, praising the JMSDF,” Goto marvels. “Oh, yes, that'll go over just fucking swell.

“It could undermine the nationalists,” you point out. “You keep pointing out that they're gaining so much ground because they did have a point here and there vis a vis military force, after all.”

“Yeah, that's the cherry on the poisoned sundae,” Goto snaps. “You throw in with that, you, and we might get that war with China we managed to dodge by the skin of our teeth!”

“Okay, right, right,” you say, patting the air to calm him down. “I'm just frustrated. It seems the bastards-”

“-have us over a barrel,” Goto agrees.

“What the hell did we do to piss them off so much?” you wonder. “Do they really want Naka on their payroll that damn bad?”

“I could think of a few reasons they might,” Goto replies, “but I think they're just pissed at you, personally.”

You blink. “Why?”

“American, here with American shipgirls, which shoots down some of the rhetoric they've been pissing around - something about Fighting Spirit actually being a tangible Thing, and Japan having more shipgirls being proof of it, or some crap. And then there's the fact that you've been winning fights, Settle. Big ones. They don't like that, either-”

“Why the hell wouldn't they?!”

“Because you used American shipgirls with ours, and you like to integrate conventional forces with them,” Goto says. “Just guessing, but none of that helps their argument that Japan Needs To Be Stronger, you know?”

“That's pretty vague basis to send assassins out,” you retort.
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>>201147
plane and jet are homonyms when you're a print media column-padder.
most of the time you could hook a laser printer straight to the wire service and get better results.
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“Nobody said the Sumiyoshi family was very clever these days, and the people you shanked seemed to be hired mercenaries or hitmen,” Goto reminds you, “based on their frequent travel. In other words, they didn't send anyone in-house.”

“Still. Not a lot of information to work with, you know?”

“Ain't that a bitch,” Goto says with a shrug. “But there you have it. We need to make the Sumiyoshi's back off before they try another hit, and we need to do it with incredible discretion, or failing that, find a way to put paid to those clowns putting on a puppet show in the Diet.”

You throw your hands in the air. “Don't look at me. I don't know a damn thing about Japanese politics or culture or whatnot.”

“Fine, fine,” Goto replies. “I'll take care of the awful, boring part, and you can utilize your unique talent for outside-of-the-box violence application.”

“It's not unique,” you sniff. “I just have Hate to rely on-”

“A fucking sword, Settle.”

You wince. “I had no idea there was a sw-”

“And yet you knew how to use one!?”

“Fencing is - you're required to take a sport at Annapo-”

“Settle, that old Marines ad with a guy stabbing a dragon with his NCO sword? You out-chuuni'd the Marine recruiting arm.”

You shrink into your chair. “Fine. FINE. I'll handle the damn wetwork!”

[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.

[ ] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.

[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201326

As a guy with a journalism degree the truth in this post makes me weep
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

Because, Kawaii and Death Rides a DE don't not mix well together.
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>>201258
I thought that was a headset for his sonar? Or at least supposed to be something like that.
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>>201339
and I fucked up my own point because I forgot to delete the "not" in my statement. goddamnit
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>>201329
>[ ] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.
Mainly because I want to see where you're going with this.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201329
>[ ] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.
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>>201329
>PT Corgis and Sammy for PR
>SAMMY
>FOR PR
fap angle pls

>Infiltrating the yaks
Does this entail Naka-chan going deep? Because that feels like using a bomb to defuse another bomb, using it as a hammer. If it weren't for her situation it'd probably be the best plane. I might be misinterpreting.
>Discrediting the 'fuck cooperation' angle.
This'll be hard as sin, though. Like I've been saying and Goto reiterated, jap nationalism is built on insecurity.

I'm torn between 2 and 3, depending on what 2 actually entails.
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>>201329
>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
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>>201344
Nope, the artist even confirmed that it is, in fact, an Xbox headset when another anon pointed it out. This was way, WAY the fuck back when we were just getting character art from Pixel.
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>>201329
>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

Can't we go up to the nationalist party's leader, slap him in the face with a glove, and challenge him to a duel?
With swords.
To the death.

Televised live.
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>>201329
>[X] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
Sammy needs more screentime.
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>>201367
>>PT Corgis and Sammy for PR
>>SAMMY
>>FOR PR
>fap angle pls

TWO BOMBS WEREN'T ENOUGH
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

we have plenty of those.
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>>201329
>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

As much as I would like to see Sammie B and her PT Corgi flotilla work their magic, it's likely not the best idea for something as sensitive as this. Oh well.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201367
Option two seems very loaded as it suggests a shipgirl and I've read enough doujins to know how that ends to end (hint: Not well)
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>>201329
>[x] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

YASEN?

Honsestly I'm a little conflicted about this vote - but this seems unlikely to backfire horribly.
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>>201329
>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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I'd say we already ARE the team of lunatics with attitude. Time for something different.
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>>201403
Essex and Sammy, the lunatic duo from hell.
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Sammy is just plain bad at wetwork that requires discretion. She's a howling banshee that needs to be pointed at something we want torn to bloody shreds.

Harder is much better here. And bishie. And Naka already wants to use him on stage for reasons. And it is the Silent Service.

Kanmusu with attitude sounds like an even worse idea than Sammy and her corgihorde.

[X] We need subtlety.

On phone sorry for spelling.
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>>201329
[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

1 involves Sammy and the Japanese public, which seems like a VERY BAD IDEA(TM)!

2 doesn't seem so bad, and comes in from another angle the Yaks don't really have covered, but it doesn't address the root of the problem.

3 gets to the root of the issue, even if it's probably harder to pull off and not as immediately satisfying.
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>>201329
>[ ] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.
I'll throw in with this, just on the off chance that there's something secret and important abut their motivations beyond jap insecurity.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

As much as I want to see Sammy and The Corgi Flotilla cute-ing Japan into submission, this seems a better choice in the long run.
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>>201329
>[ ] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.
Are we unleashing Hamp?
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
I like the idea of out-chunning people. Besides, sending Sammy in sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
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>>201389
Would you rather have Essex doing PR? Because I would have the Japanese ships bully her on camera until she cries.
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>>201329

>[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course. (as a diversion)

>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done. (main op)

I'd actually push for a double-blow on this one. The 'PR trap' option being a diversion for the 'main' operation.
Fuzzy PTs, pigtailed DE or preferably, say, Willie Dee (because klutz is adorable) or Ari in an outreach/PR exercise will be something the yaks will expect, because "Yankee are loud, in-your-face and as unsubtle as Little Boy", while the actual work goes on in the background, sight unseen.
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>>200531
>Sammy, a tiny little ball of heinous aggression - and yet capable of making you pause in your tracks just to smile at her when she's got a quart of ice cream all to herself, even though you ought to know better.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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While we're on the topic of traffic cones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4R5U9Xuzc
CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
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>>201100
there's a memorial of the WTC aboard, isn't there?

I had the chance to go aboard her back in Fleet Week 2012 in NYC, but they closed tours early that day because she was so popular
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On that note,
>>201329
>[ X ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
IT'S TIME TO CONQUER PUBLIC RELATIONS
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>[x] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
picking this because it seems like the most overtly murderous option. get fucked, yaks.
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>People bashing the Sammy option because muh subtlety
You're missing the point.
Marines or mature shipgirls under Settle's/Goto's command? Real easy to spin that negatively.
Can you fucking imagine trying to explain how the bunch of fucking DOGS lead by a LITTLE GIRL kicking in your door is an evil plot lead by the white piggu?
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201471
My god, IT MAKES SENSE NOW

>>201329
>[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
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>>201471
but it goes against the kawaii part which implies she's expected to be cute, not herself.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201471
When the little girl is wearing USMC dress and took part in one of Japan's most humiliating surface actions? Yeah.
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>>201329

>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201329
>[X] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
picking the most FUN option.
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>>200865
I think they meant the Willis Tower, because they changed the name a couple years back, but the infographic fucked up
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Fuck it, whatever the anons pick, I have no goddamn idea anymore
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>>201329
>[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.

>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

Don't see any reason why these would be mutually exclusive. The PR would be the short-term, rapid-response stuff, while the PSYOPs stuff can be more long-term.
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>>201443
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>201471
AMERICA CONSCRIPTS CHILD SOLDIERS AS KILL SQUADS
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>>201490
>No no you don't undertandu, don't look at the uncontrorabu kawii rittle girr, rook at her uniform, rittle dog uniform, CREARY WHITE DEVIL PLOT
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>>201512
I have no idea, my brain was in stupid mode when I posted that
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Could Sammy be Kawaii if she wanted to be? Explain it to her as something along the lines of a social smoke screen?

We know she wasn't shy about lurking in the smoke during Samar, after all.
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>>201367
>Does this entail Naka-chan going deep?

Well, uh... someone would be going deep, in a sense.
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>>201329
[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

I nominate Sammy and Essex. Who else would be part of Team Lunatic?
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>>201509
GODDAMMIT I TURNED THAT NAME OFF
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>>201329
>[X] We need subtlety - we need a better idea of their plans, and infiltrating before we strike will keep a low profile. It's time to utilize that most dangerous of weapons - bishie. Yes. Their secret weakness. Strike from within. Never mess with somebody hot, fucker.
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>>201540
Harder, Kongou, Hate, Sendai, Kiyoshimo, Shimakaze, Tenryuu (when she gets better), etc.
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>>201533
You're saying we could send in YASEN? She is a ninja, right?
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>>201329
>[ ] Turn their PR trap back on them. Japan loves kawaii. There's no way even the Diet could spin hard enough to refute that. Let slip... the fuzzy little dogs of war. Escorted by a little pigtailed DE, of course.
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>>201329
>[x] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201329
>[x] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201549
Maybe throw in Maya or Poi (if she's advanced to Poi-Ni.)
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>>201556
She's about as good a ninja as Naruto, and about as subtle or stealthy.

Bad plan.
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>>201540
Tenryuu, Sendai, Kiyoshimo, Miyuki... and Kaga back at mission control.
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>>201376
Why not suggest that to goto?
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>>201577
My impression was that in KCQverse she was actually semi-competent at the ninja stuff? (If a bit overenthusiastic)
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>>201434
Then dadmiral come in and bitchslap and canewhip the girls for going after his girl?
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>>201568
throw in this guy and we're set
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>>201568
Those two as well.

>>201577
...Hmm.
>>201329
PLANEFAG! What would the rules of engagement be for CHUNNI-CORPS's anti-Yak operations?
Pic slightly related.
>>201588
If I could, I would.
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>>201590
The impression I've gotten is great at night battles in that sense of ninja, great at beating the shit out of her sister/Harder, and completely out of her depth when it comes to being a girl- see Hamp's belt armor, all the shenanigans Naka and Jintsuu have pulled on her, Settle's surface action, the sister ship sleepover, etc. It's adorable, is what it is. Jintsuu's the scary one.
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>>201329
>[X] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.
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>>201531
>Could Sammy be Kawaii if she wanted to be?
yeah, she acted all cutesy to draw in that one girl into a perfect uppercut distance.
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>>201616
Yeah, so a potential wetworks ship (with a bit of training). Being on the CHUUNISQUAD can be her cover.
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>>201329
>[ ] All wars are won in the mind. We can stack them ten deep and it'll just feed their martyr warrior complex. We need to discredit the very basis of their philosophy. We need to out-chuuni them at their own game. Assemble a team of lunatics with attitude. It can be done.

Hurray insanity.
Boo being late cause shit memory.
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>>201616
>The impression I've gotten is great at night battles in that sense of ninja, great at beating the shit out of her sister/Harder, and completely out of her depth when it comes to being a girl- see Hamp's belt armor, all the shenanigans Naka and Jintsuu have pulled on her, Settle's surface action, the sister ship sleepover, etc. It's adorable, is what it is. Jintsuu's the scary one.
Wasn't Jintsuu the one who was known for going full balls-out crazy during the war?
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>>201616
Forgot, but jintsuu might want in too - badass wetworks shenanigans might give her an edge in the hatebowl.
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>>201638
Is she gunning for the Marinedick? I though she was bro-tier.
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>>201647
I believe Naka mentioned she might be in the market
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>>201638

>Hatebowl

I fucking hate you for saying this stupid shit. There is no fucking bowl. Fuck off.
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>>200797
SCAPA. FUCKING. FLOW.
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>>201661
Nagasaki....
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>>201638
>>201647
I think she's still after him, based on what Naka and Settle said I the mess.

It still amuses my thar the true harem King of the quest isn't the MC; nice change of pace.
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>>201658
Hateathalon? Hatelympics? Hate Madness?
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>>201658
So you're saying it's already over?
Who won?
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>>201678
Hateathon. You have to sail him 23 nautical miles away from any other competing shipgirl to solidify your claim.
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I swear that by the end of this, we should have our own action figure with Kung-fu action grip and when our button is pressed, we drink a beer.
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>>201658
The tsunderine doth protest too much. You've got what, 3 now? Iowa, Yamato, and Jintsuu? Settle only has Shoukaku and Arizona at the moment. Hate is the true harem protagonist.
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>>201678

GET HYPE
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>>201702
Don't forget the Chuunibotes
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>>201702
Is Chunnibote in the running too?
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>>201658
>There is no fucking bowl
Sorry,
The Hateb Owl.
The most majestic of birds.
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>>201685
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VOTES CALLED
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>>201700
That would be Naka's figure.
Ours would have sounds and scream obscenities directed at the Abyssals.
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>>201708
>>201709
Oh yeah. 5 then, at least. This man could have his own anime.
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>>200544
>“Clearly not,” Goto agrees. “What gives 'em a soul, Settle? The intent of the builders? Three hundred young men bitching and moaning and hating and sleeping and joking and jerking off in one tin can? The adoration of a nation?” He drinks again, and takes two swallows this time. “The hell does this make us? Gods?”
You do realize what you've done right? Sooner or later this gets out and there will be people who's overriding ambition is no less than building the perfect waifu object on the slim chance that it will come alive so they can marry it. It's not even a new concept. There's an old story about a sculptor who carved a statue so lifelike he wished that it would come alive so he could fuck it.

AS EXPECTED OF THE GREEKS.

What's next? President Trump builds a wall and awakens the Alamo? There's a whole human history of triumphs and tragedies to pick from. Maybe if the greeks pray hard enough Thermopylae will come back and protect them from their DEBNTS.

And you just know, if ANYONE could win the Shimakaze Bowl it would be Edwards Air Force Base
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>>201556
what you need is an inoffensive conservative japanese wife, so bland and meek it's like she's furniture.
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>>201724
Shimakaze X EAFB

I had no Idea I wanted this but I need it
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>>201540
Who isn't a lunatic would be easier to answer.
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>>201730
Y'know...

That's not half bad for a plan
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>>201724
>AS EXPECTED OF THE GREEKS.

DON'T PUT THAT EVIL ON US FAGET, THE JAPS ARE THE ONES TRYING TO SELL IT IN THE MODERN AGE!

>>201724
>What's next? President Trump builds a wall and awakens the Alamo?

YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL ABOUT GIVING ME IDEAS THIS EXCELLENT

Also I see anon picked literally the best option ever hooo boy.
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This team of lunatics must include Shimakaze.
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>>201702
To be honest, it's that way for Settle as most figure they can't beat one/both of those two.
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>>201730
Is there a reason for Houshous tatoos, or is it just rule of cool?
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Here's some art for the weekend. It's a bit unrelated, but I'll see to doing other stuff.
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>>201730

She got some nice ink, tho. I mean, they look fuckin good, like her artist knew what the fuck he was doin. I like mine better, but fuckit.

And yes, I fuckin know what they are. I still kinda dig 'em.
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>>201702
>>201712
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>>201733
There's no water out here though.
Only meth.
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>>201742
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>>201742
Well yeah but the Greeks would be the number 1# consumer of said goods, if they weren't so deep in debt.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why they were in debt.
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>>201730
>inoffensive conservative japanese wife, so bland and meek it's like she's furniture.
Oh yes, just continue to think that that's the case.

Imma let you in on a little secret. That's only her *public* personality. At home, it is far different.
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>>201742
>DON'T PUT THAT EVIL ON US FAGET, THE JAPS ARE THE ONES TRYING TO SELL IT

I guess you haven't heard of the Greek navy's sale of one of the world's largest hovercraft to the Chinese?
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>>201752
>>201756
They look Yak.
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what choice won?
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>>201376
Kinda hard to do if the Nationalist Party is an integral part of the government, like with important Ministers and such under the PM, which might happen if Abe and the LDP are still in power but not with enough support to form a government of their own after voter backlash from the Article 9 overhaul... In that case, the Nationalist leader might be Deputy PM or something like that.

You challenge that guy to a duel, and you'd be knocking out one of the pillars of the current government, necessitating an election season as the government falls and a new one needs to be established.

Ignore this if the nationalists are only a small part of said government or even in opposition (unlikely, but possible).
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>>201777
>weeb greeks

anon

anon pls
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>>201812
Weeb Italians on the otherhand.
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>>201807
Looks like "GET ME FIVE CHUUNIS WITH ATTITUDE"
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>>201700
>>201714
>the Chinese knock off has Settle transforming into a boat or something for a stupid reason
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>>201742
that reminds me, I went to Miku Expo 2016 yesterday afternoon in Manhattan. Was amazing, though I wish the setlist could've been a bit better.

Made me almost late for a cousin's wedding on Staten Island later in the evening, but I made it back on time for the ceremony. Not enough not to get bitched out by my parents though.
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>>201756
it would be nice to see girls put some thought into their ink and give it some artistic merit, and not end up with random foreign words, ass antlers, and a half shirt of moon moon howling at a photorealistic alternator.
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>>201810
>You challenge that guy to a duel, and you'd be knocking out one of the pillars of the current government, necessitating an election season as the government falls and a new one needs to be established.

Well, that will be a matter for his replacement to deal with. Or we could put up some sort of clause...

If Settle dies, they can go ahead and install some TENNO NIPPON BANZAI asshole in command of the Japanese half of the naval base.
But if Mr. Fucklehead gets shanked, *we* get to choose his replacement.

I'm sure there's some traditionalist code of honor bullshit we can exploit for this.
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>>201533
...If you send my manlet into Yakuza territory, Settle, I'm surfing you into the Marianas trench and putting Sammy's google search history onto your computer cache.
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ETA until Yamato corners Hate with a tied-off tube of oiled canvas and pump-bottle of Bunker C?
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Been watching The Mummy between updates, and just had a brainwave. Ship-people could be invaluable in historical research from now on.

Imagine if one of the old Royal barges of the Pharaoh's came back.The insights they could give in regards to the ancient world would make anthropologists and archeologists offer up the first-born for a chance to pick their brains.
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>>201852
As would be appropriate.
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>>201852
>Sammy's google search history


What kind of porn can Sammy be watching?
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>>201871
>What kind of porn can Sammy be watching?
Why would she need porn when she can just *get* a copy of Janes?
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>>201850

>But if Mr. Fucklehead gets shanked, *we* get to choose his replacement.
>I'm sure there's some traditionalist code of honor bullshit we can exploit for this.
Pretty sure you can't into Japanese party politics that way.

Also, shanking a Japanese political bigwig like that will likely cause issues, even if a duel was agreed to (does Japanese law even condone that shit? Better make sure if you don't want to be arrested right afterwards for murder and have the nationalist leaning press spin it as "Gaijin Admiral murders Japanese politician")
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>>201871
>dean-charles chapman crying
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>>201871
It's not porn. I'm just learning that Americans have a hilarious number of themselves hilarious racial slang terms. I think after a while she was just making them up.
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We could always
>pic related
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>>201852
Is that all? Ya oughta strip him, tie him up real pretty with silk bows, and leave him in Arizona's quarters.
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>>201840
If we extrapolate the KCQ bobble head collection out to it's logical conclusion the chinese ambassador would be a pez dispenser full of salt tablets.
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>>201893
I thought that'd be Planefag and Neco
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>>201852
>Sammy's search history

...elaborate, because that's just to juicy to leave hanging.
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>>201897
Catte was particularly salty a few threads ago
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Arizona ambushing us in compromising position when?
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>>201892

Pretty sure that fuckin ain't how Arizona rolls. Just sayin.
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>>201913
Agreed, that's more Tatsuta's style.
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>>201799

Nooooo fuckin shit. That don't mean they don't fuckin look good.

>>201848

Ya know, I always thought yak ink looked good, though. It's usually fucking better than the fucking garbage we've got stateside.
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>>201913
I dunno, I remember something about silk ropes.
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>>201907
Those cupcakes still need to be frosted and eaten, after all.
>>201913
I seem to remember something about lengths of silk rope, but that was ages ago
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>>201926
Are you volunteering for a Yak-infiltration mission, LT?
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>>201905
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>>201871
You ask, anon delivers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDybTIxrJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrKHLQMA_5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SME4w037FgA
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>>201812
What? Unless this is the thread where you come out as Albanian, counterpoint: you

On an unrelated note, I find it interesting that we're spending so much time on the yakuza as the source of our problem when this is a thing:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/wp/2016/05/27/fat-leonard/?tid=sm_fb
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>>201940
>implying they accept Gaijin.

>>201950
That's not our problem, and the abyssals probably killed his ass anyways.
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>>201905
shit what happened my man
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>>201948
So hardcore.
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>>201962
Mass posting of Neco maid stuff, Catte lost her shit.
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>>201937

There is, but if you just dropped him off, she wouldn't fuckin touch it. Girl wants her victims aware and willing, you know?
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>>201971
was this last thread my man?
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>>201871
Why think of *just* porn? Why not think of 'on the watchlist of an alphabet soup of agencies'.

>>201879
>Pretty sure you can't into Japanese party politics that way.
Eh. Aren't these guys supposed to be traditionalists? Just say that we're going back to the way things were settled in Nobunaga's time or some shit, ain't that TRADITIONAL enough for you?

>even if a duel was agreed to
>have the nationalist leaning press spin it as "Gaijin Admiral murders Japanese politician"

That's why we pitch the proposal to the media as well, far in advance of the actual duel. Once it becomes reinforced in the public that this is a honorary trial of combat, that Admiral Settle (who has undoubtedly become an international sensation due to that one video) has had ENOUGH OF JAPAN'S BULLSHIT and seeks to defend his honor in the traditional manner...

I mean, shit, can you imagine the reaction of the manga-fans? Or the general population of Akihabara, even if it is a dirty white piggu yankee making the declaration?
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>>201971
No, it was quite a while ago, like two weeks
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>>201871
who says it's porn?
>sharks
>shark cage
>shark cage fight
>underwater chainsaw
>chainsaw oil flammable
>things that burn underwater
>burning water how to stop
>are explosions made of fire
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>>201981
Hey, Hate, how far have you ever gone with a prank in the field?
Ever done something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIoarndHIk
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>>201982
Clicked the wrong thing
>>201998
this
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>>202000
>>burning water how to stop

Why did I laugh.
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>>202000

it is alarming how accurate this is

stolen

STOLEN

SAVED

also still writing sorry
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>>202001
>are you fucknig shooting VOGs at us?

Oh. OH, SLAVS. Oh, the way they're LAUGHING. It's so... so beautiful.
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>>201329

Plane-fag is writing.

Post cute "boys" of the fleet.

Pic related.
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>>202089
Why are those young German lads wearing skirts?
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>>202098
They're waiting for a nice black buck to enrich them.
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Fire sidearm into the air and yell!
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If the Sammy option wins(as it should) we should have the daily life of Willie taped for the masses to d'aww over, the cute klutz would sell like hotcake...especially if DesDiv 6 is with her.

Also have this chunnibote.
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>>202114
New Chunnibote picture, and saved.
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>>202098
Because they're allegedly "girls."
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>>202123
Would you like her fellow companion Training ship as well?
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>>202144
Not really a big Katori fan.
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>>202114
if it was willie and the PTs, it'd be properly cute, but I doubt Sammy slugging various japanese reporters would count as cute.

>>202144
Tenryuu's a light cruiser not a training cruiser.
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>>202123
You know, if you say 'destroyers aren't for lewd' but they treat Tenryuu as if she is, you need a reason why she isn't a destroyer.

Preferably one better than 'she claimed she was a light cruiser,' I can trust Japan on what to lewd, or as an army man I place my faith in Navy nomenclature.
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>>202184
>Tenryuu's a light cruiser not a training cruiser.
If you wanna get picky, modern Tenryuu actually IS a training ship.
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>>202184
she still served as a training ship for a while
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>>202199
>as an army man I place my faith in Navy nomenclature.
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>>202173
Sa'right but have some more Tenryuu all the same then.
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>>202212
Considering the fact when tenryuu was laid down destroyers were half her size means she is a cruiser (even if a second-class one by WW2 standards)
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>>202199
Tenryuu was like two or three times the maximum displacement for a destroyer as defined in the various Naval Arms Limitations Treaties, in addition to having guns that were too big for a destroyer under those same treaties. Thus, automatically light cruiser.

I mean, your argument would come closer to classifying the Atlanta-class CLs as destroyers, since they DID have destroyer guns and were about the same size as Tenryuu.
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>>202212
So Colonel, working on a new chapter yet?
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>>202212
I have a Tenryuu, am I cool now?
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>>202184
Incorrect Tenryuu was a training Cruiser for the Imperial Japanese Naval academy and their Engineering Academy.
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>>202265
She was still a light cruiser, though.
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>>202263
So do I

>>202265
Only for a short time and it was the Naval academy and submarine school not the engineering academy.
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>>202282
So is Katori.
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>>202294
So is Yubari
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>>202262
As I have time, this next one will be better.
>>202263
I am so using that for something, just don't know what yet.
>>202286
While not my chunnibote, there is a certain appeal there.
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>>202242
On the other hand, this argument would classify Fletchers and Kagerous as light cruisers.

For a better idea of what I'm arguing, I feel that one benefits from defining the word destroyer before trying to create rules about it. It's pretty clear that there hasn't been a single definition in the ~100 years of use it has had. ArmyNurseCorpFag wants the rule 'destroyers aren't for lewd,' but so far has been unclear if that would include helicopter destroyer Kaga, the new Zumwalt, or even a ship like USS Norfolk (DL-1).

If 'destroyers aren't for lewd' is adopted without this, it's only a matter of time before Planefag renames himself something like Destroyer_Planefag as a way to avoid being asked for Kleine lewds. (and similar absurdities)
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>>202299
Powerpoints, obviously.
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>>202299
Speaking of work Col. where do Harukaze and Kamikaze fall in the DD's not for Lewd area?
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>>202286
It seems that every ship named Tenryuu Trains the kids. that name seems made for momboats
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Just thought of more material to use against the Yaks and Nationalists. The video of us saving Willie from the Big Dog could help us go a long way from a PR stand point.
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>>202310
there's a very simple answer to all this.

Just accept destroyer lewds into your heart.
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>>202317
Are they destroyers?
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“... okay,” you grump. “I guess I've got... a few options?”

“Oh, do tell.”

“Well, for starters... Japan loves cute shit, right?”

Goto gives you a level look. “Yep, we all short we eat rice we all rook same!”

“So you do all like cute shit, right?”

“Actually....” he sighs, and hangs his head. “Yes. We do.”

“Corgis,” you opine. “PT boats are a bit... rambunctious, but with some coaching they could let bastards off with ankle bites, and anyone shooting at a corgi will be reviled the world over. To hell with their spin; nobody can hate a corgi.”

“Possible...”

“And then there's bishies.”

Goto blinks. “Settle, just how much anime have you w-”

“Naka's shown me what J-Pop is, so don't you even fucking try to sell me that bullshit.”

“J-Pop is-”

“Goto? Grass-eaters.

Goto grimps up his mouth and lapses into sullen silence.

“Right. So. Bishies. Hamp, for sure. And maybe we could get Mogami into a suit... chat up their girlfriends.”

“That,” Goto opines, “would start a bar fight fast.”

“Exactly. They're the aggressors, see? Lots of potential there.”

“Settle, these assholes all think they're captain of the kendo team. They like fighting.”

“... oh,” you say quietly. “Oh. Wait.”

Goto squints at you. “You've got that damned look again.”

“I just had an idea.”

“I really don't like that look.”

“A wonderful, wonderful idea.”

“Settle, I've got a roll of duct tape here-”

“Oh yes,” you breathe. “Hold on-” you paw for your phone. “Lemme text Jintsuu.”

“NO!” Goto exclaims. “You have your plan? That's cool. That's great. Fantastic. Just, uh, you know,” he says, patting an invisible wall in the air between you. “Plausible deniability, okay?”

“Oh sure, get all boring and responsible on me now,” you bitch. “But seriously. How are you going to handle this... political... uh, thing.”

“Yes,” Goto returns levelly. “The thing. Hell if I know.” He rubs his chin thoughtfully. “It all comes down to the yaks... I can't stand the fact that these assholes are in collusion. Everyone knows it, but, oh, no, these are old money yaks. These are yaks of good breeding. If these yaks were any more respectable a man in the Philippines would be importing three a month.”

“... wat.”

“Long story, not important,” Goto mutters. “Point is, the bastards are traitors. Pure, dyed in the wool traitors, when you get right down to it, willing to throw civilians - Japan itself - to the wolves if they can get their way. And they're getting away with it. People are just going with the damn flow like they always do, eating up this National Spirit bullshit when these bastards are fixing to stab the real defenders in...” he blinks. “The back.”
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>>202294
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“... Goto?”

But Goto isn't listening. He's staring off into space behind you, his dark eyes focused and intense as he looks at something only he can see. “Traitors.”

“Yeeesss?”

“Traitors... they are traitors, aren't they, Settle?”

“Well, yeah. When you get right down to it.”

“You think they'd engineer a loss for us?” Goto asks you suddenly. “Yes. Of course they would. They tried to kill you, after all. Cut off the head, that's even worse than going after the limbs. They wouldn't hesitate...”

Goto springs to his feet, picking up the memo pad and stuffing it in his shirt pocket. “Settle, you've done some crazy shit since you got here, you know that?”

“I'm vaugely aware,” you reply dryly. “You bring this up because-”

“Because I want you to keep that in mind in a day or two when you're fixing to scream at me till my head pops,” Goto returns. He circles the desk and strides for the door.

“Wait,” you demand. “The hell are you going?”

“I need to talk with someone,” Goto says. “And then... I need a bottle.”

“A bottle?”

“Yes, a - gimme that.” Goto takes the bourbon bottle from your hand and plies it to his mouth. Tilting it back, he begins to chug. You watch in silent fascination as the brownish liquid vanishes till only flourescent fixture-light is glistening through the emptied glass. He lowers the bottle, his swarthy complexion flushed, and wipes the sweat off his brow with a shirtsleeve. “I needed that,” he breathes hoarsely. “I'll need more before we're done. But we'll get our results.” He points at you with the bottle, holding it by the neck. “Keep me informed on this, uh,” he waggles the bottle's end in a little circle, “great idea of yours.”

“I'll do that,” you say faintly.

Goto cranks his door open, and vanishes, the tumultuous “conversation” in his little lobby evaporating as he charges through the room and into the hallway.

You recline in Goto's guest chair again - a nice one, with that adjustable, leanable back - and try to process everything that just happened. Goto's Up To Something... but so are you. As usual in this hellhole, there's nothing to do but wait for the other boot to fall. You pluck out your phone and text Jintsuu.

“How's that project coming?”

A beat. “Almost done - work went pretty fast!”

“Great. We may need it soon,” you type out.

“Do I get a raise?” A heart emoji.

“Just a medal. The budget isn't inexhaustible.”
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>>202323
>Goto gives you a level look. “Yep, we all short we eat rice we all rook same!”
>“So you do all like cute shit, right?”
>“Actually....” he sighs, and hangs his head. “Yes. We do.”
PF! my sides!
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>>202318
Hmm. What is it about the name 'heavenly dragon' that seems motherly?
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Your phone buzzes as another message shows up, but the sound of crinkling glass comes from the window. You look up to find Kongou thrashing her way free of the blinds.

“Hold up, hold up,” you intone wearily, rising and helping free her from the tangled fabric. “Slow down, kiddo - th-” As the drapes peel away, the sight of Kongou's face stops your voice dead in your chest. Her eyes are dull, shoulders slumped, and even that little strand of hair atop her head that likes to stand up on its own has somehow wilted; as if the ambient energy that surrounds Kongou like an aura has faded.

“... Kongou?”

She listlessly drifts towards the door, stopping by Goto's desk long enough to pick up a styrofoam container-

“Is that your coffee?” you ask. Checking the desk, you see a few drops of brown liquid where the thing had evidently been laying on its side. “How the hell-”

“Japan,” Kongou murmurs. “Subway...” she holds the styrofoam cup in her hands and squishes it between her palms - the soft plastic lid flexes, but doesn't pop off. “Engineering.... priorities....”

“Kongou,” you demand. “You were listening outside the window the who-”

“No shit,” she snaps, her free hand balling into a fist.

“Kongou-”

“Shut up!” she bites out. “Just... with all your damned advice... shut up!

You stop, stunned. You've never, ever heard Kongou like this. You didn't even know she could be like this. She shoves through the door into the lobby, where the usual chaos is ensuing. Yamato is holding Shimakaze over her head, lifting the slender destroyer-girl easily with a grip on her midsection. Shimakaze's stretching her arms and legs out, demonstrating some kind of superman maneuver with her... yes, that is a wingsuit moving on you find Hornet and Kaga glaring each other down, eye to eye, somehow conducting a high-stakes thumb-war without actually looking at their thumbs. Hamp's hovering nearby, apparently hoping they'll kiss, and Haruna and Kirishima are glued to their smartphones. They look up as the door opens.

“Sister!” they cry together - and then blanch. “Oh.”

“Good to see you too,” Kongou growls.

“No, just-” they're staring. “That... swimsuit...” Haruna breathes.

Kirishima wipes her glasses on her shirt and hastily re-dons them, adjusting with both hands. “It is... certainly something...” The sisters glance askance at each other, then rush forward towards Kongou.

“Where did you get that?!” Kirishima demands.

“Tell me!” Haruna says. “Tell me! I've always been your favorite!”
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>>202323
>>202328
>Jintsuu
>Goto Determined
oh this is gonna be good
>>202338
oh fuck
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“No you're not, Miss Daijoubou!” Kirishima snorts. “You couldn't brew a proper cuppa if the instructions were laser-engraved on your retinas!”

You are an arrogant four-eyed bully who thinks doing that Gendo thing impresses anyone but smelly otaku!” Haruna snaps, and soon they're back to scuffling. Kongou stares at the listlessly and sighs. You step forward to put a hand on her shoulder, to console her, to tell her that this whole Living Ship thing might work out in her favor-

"PFFFFHAAAHHAHAAHAHAHAH, WHAT'D I SAY?! WHAT'D I SAY, BRITBONG?! I TOLD YOU TO USE THE 'NORTH WIND AND SUN' STRATEGY, BUT NOOOO, TAY TOKU WILL FINALLY ADMIT HIS FEELINGS IF I GO ALL OUT!"

The voice flashbangs your head, kicks in your eardrums and thunders into your head already shooting. Wincing away from the source, you turn to find your newest carrier, Essex, with hands planted on her hips as she laughs at the Japanese battleship, who's spun on her bare heel to stare.

“Well guess WHAT, miss NORTH WIND~” she snorts. “You just got DESSTROYED!”

Kongou's lower lip begins to tremble.

“DESSTABILIZED!”

Her little stray strand of hair is rising again - and it's quivering to and for, like a field of static electricity is rising from the girl with every loud, boisterous word of mockery.

“DESSIMATED! DESSECRATED! DESSANCTIFIED!”

Kongou's slender frame seems to be vibrating now, her chest heaving as if she's on the verge of deep, awful sobbing. A little, lonely voice in your head says you need to shut up Essex and shut her up now, but another part is tired of playing hero. Another part of you wants Essex to see what happens when you Dess with the Best.

“Bitch~” Exxex says, actually closing her eyes as she drops a splayed hand on her own impressive bust, “You shoulda listened to my advice. I'm fucking Desscartes over here - oh shit, another good one! DESSCARDED AND DESSPOSED OF!”

Kongou's body suddenly stops shivering. Her stray lock of hair seems suspended straight-up. The misery and wetness in her eyes has vanished, and in its place is a terrible, chilling resolve.

“Goto loves me,” she says simply.

“HAHAHAHAHA!” Essex bellows, drowning out the quiet gasps of Kongou's sisters. “Love is bullshit! Love is a word! What matters is what people do, and I don't see anybody slippin you the pink torpedo!”

“Goto loves me, for me,” Kongou says, her voice growing rich and full with conviction. “And if I defeat the enemy, the war will be over, and there'll be nothing stopping us from being together.”

Before Essex can rejoin, Kongou lifts the Styrofoam cup - the one so carefully refilled by Weiss with Navy Coffee - and pops the lid.

And then she chugs the entire god-damned thing.
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>>202345
wwwwwelp
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>>202345
oh fuck.
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>>202345
oh fug
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>>202345
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HOKAY I think we're done for... now? I'd usually end the thread at a time like this, but the threads last so dang long... I figure I can get another update in, something to bridge us to a good place to start the next thread proper.

First I need an idea of what we're doing, though. Before we dive into the next Big Plot Advancement it'd be a great time to wrap up loose ends. Boganbote is already planned, but anything else is fair game - anything I've forgotten to follow up on that's just eating you up, mention it now!
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The fuck is happening?
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>>202375
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>>202375
End times.
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>>202374
Yukikaze
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>>202322
Yes they were, some of the oldest in fact and were still in service during WWII.
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>>202374
>anything I've forgotten to follow up on that's just eating you up, mention it now!
SIDE CHARACTER
ROMANCE
SUBPLOTS
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>>202374
Something about Sammy going nuts on the Japanese ships,

Hornet telling us what she wanted to tell us before she got almost sunk.

I think these are the only two iirc.
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>>202375
Kongou is about to go commit yakuza based genocide I think.
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>>202375
Kongou just drank a whole cup of SCIENCE COFFEE in one sitting.

Think this, but several orders of magnitude more displacement.
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>>202374
How the fuck is Settle too dense to connect the "traitors" talk and Goto needing an empty bottle?
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>>202345
Oh fuck. Oh FUCK.
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>>202374
Batlead status report
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>>202374
Akagi and that pilot that landed on her.
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>>202345
Looks like Miss North Wind and Sun...

...just blew a fuse.
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>>202374

>>202397
>>202399
This!
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>>202374
Does Goto know about the Russian ship graveyard yet or did we have a reason to not tell him about that?
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>>202345
SOUND DESSCON 1!
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>>202397
>Batlead status report
Second base
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>>202397
>>202399
This would be nice.
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I still hope that we get the chance to whip our Willie out onto the Japanese public

And here's a hot Mutsu for you Col.
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>>202374
That spooky dream bullshit needs to get resolved yesterday.
There's plenty of things- too many things- that need to get followed up on but haven't been 'forgotten' yet that I can think of. Whether they will be, well, that's up to you.
There was supposed to be a movie night and cookout...
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>>202397
also going with this
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>>202418
That reminds me next time I play to try for her. Hopefully it'll go better than my attempts at carrier waifu hunting.
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>>202374
If a shipgirl does not have her outfit summoned, is she nearly as squishy as a human?
>>202397
>>202399
This too.
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>>202374
Where are the rest of the Essex write-ups?
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Side note, I totally fuckin' called it that Kongou was listening at the window.

>>202374
Oh, why the hell is Essex back at base anyway? Did the whole 'invasion of Iwo-Jima' thing wrap up or was her help no longer needed?
Because, uh, combat against land-based abyssals is more than a little important.
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>>202374

What the hell is Sammy up to?
Where is Sendai?
How is Shigure doing?
What's happening with Katsuri?
What has Hornet been up to recently?
Why is Hornet having a thumb war with Kaga?
Is Hate in denial about Yamato?

I can go on
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>>202432
I'm guessingit provides some form of protection since clothing damage is a thing.
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>>202450
What's poi up to with Crab?
What's happening with that one ensign?
Has Hatsuyuki emerged from her room yet?
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>>202395

I'm not sure I get it myself. Is he meant to be passing off a killing as an act of drunken passion?
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>>202374
Also, what is the north wind and sun thing Essex is talking about?
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>>202450
What's up with Houston and Perth?
What about the concert?
Was Naka's MIND CONTROL VOICE ever addressed?
What about that shit in Russia?
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>>202374
Ask Wainwright about how Naka is coming along after the battle.

We know she looks happier, but what is her actual physical condition?

Also, check in with Tenryuu and Tatsuta, in that order. We haven't talked to her at all since the battle.
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>>202459

Dude, it's not some obscure military shit, it's a fable. Google it.
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>>202458
Jesus Christ you fucking retard. Who do we know that hates traitors and takes messages in bottles ?
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>>202454
That's in the game though. It's not the same in this quest.
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>>202345
>Ruuuuuuuuuuuuun Bitch!

>>202399
We must have gaijin/ proud carrier of NIPPON time!

And finally, I think this whole issue has an out. Let the nationalists get their way. Suddenly, the most knowledgeable man in kanmasu/ human relations had found himself pushed out of the jap coc. It'd be a SHAME to let all that experience and ability go to waste. Surely the USN could use such a expert in an advisory role for our own Admiral in his exchanges with our... "Hulls". Then Goto can do a far smaller version of his job, saving his sanity. Of course, removing one of his excuses is just a bonus. All we have to do after that is deal with his sure to be nationalist replacement, who I'm SURE is just what those kanmasu need in this dire time. And it will certainly not be a stooge who will cause nationalist plans to hilariously backfire.
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>>202471

...the Abyssals? Huh. That's inventive. And explains the drunkenness.
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>>202374
>>202469
Yes please, go to the hospital.
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>>202374
What's Hornet been up to?

Also Batlead
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>>202411
Speaking of the Russian ship graveyard, this might be utterly off-base, but I just realized something.

February 24th, 1968. Soviet Golf-class SSK K-129 was spotted departing Petropavlosk (the sub base where we heard the cry for help). Thirteen days later she sank in 16,000 feet of frozen north Pacific water. The US tried to recover her during Project Azorian, but only managed to recover the bow section. (Supposedly. There's some reports that her bell, which is permanently stored in her sail, was returned to the Soviet Union in 1993.) She was one of four mysterious sub disappearances in 1968, the others being INS Dakar, Minerve, and USS Scorpion.

Retired USN Captain Peter Huchthausen, former naval attaché in Moscow, had a brief conversation in 1987 with Soviet admirals concerning K-129. Huchthausen states that Admiral Peter Navojtsev told him, "Captain, you are very young and inexperienced, but you will learn that there were some matters that both nations have agreed to not discuss, and one of these is the reasons we lost K-129."

In 1995, when Huchthausen began work on a book about the Soviet underwater fleet, he interviewed Admiral Victor Dygalo, who stated that the true history of K-129 has not been revealed because of the informal agreement between the two countries' senior naval commands. The purpose of that secrecy, he alleged, is to stop any further research into the losses of USS Scorpion and K-129. Huchthausen states that Dygalo told him to "overlook this matter, and hope that the time will come when the truth will be told to the families of the victims."

>Something happened to K-129 that they don't want to talk about, and it's somehow connected with Scorpion.
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>>202471
......huh.
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>>202477
Oh before I forget...here Tatsuta.
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I'm kinda sad that Essex got introduced right after the pacing tightened up, we didn't see much of her, but everything we did see was hilarious and I wish there was more.
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>>202374
Did they finally fix that Mcdonalds?

Essex + Kongou radio show when?

How are the Chuunibotes doing?

Is the fighting on Iwo over?

Are you seriously considering Alamo Hime pls no
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Is it possible to be Too Stacked?
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According to the Nurse Colonel, sexualizing DD's is forbidden. But sexualizing light cruisers is okay. So would it be possible to sexualize this knackers necromancer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_destroyer_Terrible
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>>202489
I'd rather see less; she's an one note comedy character. Last thing we need is her stealing all the screen time from real characters like the shark twins did for a while in SW89
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>>202496
Dunno
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>>202374
why didn't hate's compensator cannon bring a decisive victory at sunda strait? his cutscene just sorta faded out (or maybe my brain is fading out). was it a great success? a humiliating failure?
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>>202496
Nah
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>>202374
>anything I've forgotten to follow up on that's just eating you up, mention it now!
Yeah: what the FUCK went down on Iwo Jima? We were sitting around there for the start of the Op when Essex turned up, dived off to a side room to troll with the Missile film, then wandered off.
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>>202505
He fired it once and it blew itself apart in his hands. Sure he did do damage BUT you kinda need more than one round to finish-off a BB.
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>>202492
Last time we saw it, the rebuilding was in full swing.
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>>202498

Maybe if we encountered her more than three times we'd see past her very obviously fake bravado?
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>>202506
>:large
>not :orig
TRY HARDER.
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>>202515
From what I remember he got a few rounds off, but it was inaccurate as hell.
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>>202496
possibly
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>>202517
>implying she has much more than that. She's based largely off of a purely troll twitter character.

>>202520
It was this.
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>>202520
Last I heard he's trying to make Fenrir into a belt fed weapon
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>>202513
TBF it wasn't our place. That was Admiral Thomas' concern, along with the conventional JMSDF and JGSDF commanders.
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>>202469
>>202477
Yep, Settle should lookto his own health once in a blue moon.
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Hey guys, just checking stuff before I go to work. What's happeOHSHITWHATDIDYOUGUYSDOTHISTIME?!
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>>202470
But what does it mean?
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>>202395
I am not sure about his plan either. Can a good anon illuminate it?
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>>202489
No thanks.
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>>202513
>on second thought, let's not go to memealot
>'tis a silly place
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>>202543
The Yaks and Ultranationalists chose their future, and it has a high chance of 14in HE shells.
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>>202543
We made good choices.
Essex did not.
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>>202543
>What's happeOHSHITWHATDIDYOUGUYSDOTHISTIME?!
Pic related.
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>>202557
If BURNING LOVE PUNCH, gives us this, I'm fine with memeboat getting her ass kicked
>>202562
Yeah we chose to imply that guys jerked off inside Yam's hull last thread didn't we.
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Was it ever established if we were in trouble if a DD were to lewd us first?
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>>202569
Uh, don't you mean this thread anon?
You feelin' alright?
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>>202579
It's fine.
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>>202374
what did you want all that 80s american media for, back in december?
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>>202585
The DECISION to imply that was made last thread.
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>>202556
>>202557
>>202562
Welp, guess I'm lucky I ain't done writing a new Akigumo chapter then.
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>>202579
Funny thing, you could construe the reason the Japanese lost the war as being her fault, considering Enterprise's dive bombers followed her and sank Akagi and Kaga
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So why did Goto need a bottle and why was Kongou so depressed?
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>>202610
...will Akigumo's first meeting with Willie ever happen? Also what would the consensus be on Willie with her hair down?
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>>202621
>Asashi tries to do ASW, fails
>rucks off back to the Midway group to report that she drove off an American submarine
>American aircraft are sneaking behind her
>pic partially related
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>>202623
Kongou heard all the stuff Kongou was saying about, er, priorities, I think. Also, Goto is pretty damn sure what he's planning is basically holding a knife by the edge.

>>202624
Not sure. Maybe I should confer with PF for that. Thanks for the ideas man!
>No-braids Willie
THANKS FOR THE IDEAS, MAN!
Also, I'm thinking pic related might be another writeup angle.
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>>202454
>>202472
Just wondering if the ship person would be vulnerable to attack when not running her spooky shit.

Thinking of a certain Miss-not-going-to-appear-in-this-quest.
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>>202623
kongou needed a stiff dicking and didn't get it.
goto needs to use a message in a bottle because livejournal went offline in the 2020s
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>>202634
I keep saying, if she ever appears, it's likely to be as an abyssal for that reason
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>>202639
Heh yeah just imagine, post nightmare and Shimakaze the rest of the DD's are trying to cheer up Willie and Akigumo suggests drawing/painting, so they need to retie her hair into a single braid only the moment they've got her hatless and braidless they find a curly/wavy haired Wille....cue camera phones and facebook uploads.
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>>202646
Well, we were worried enough that that was the case that we shielded Kaga and Akagi with our body once. And Shigure had to wait for her ship mojo to dispel before trying to frag herself. On the other hand, whats-her-name that bonked her nose took it as a dent to her metal, so who knows for sure.
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Hmm...
Remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJTGLL2SnI
Wonder what's new with these two organizations in-quest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u8mheM2Hrg
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>>202684

What do you fucking think is new. They started 'militarizing' their shit day like, fucking three, trying to push that it gave your average swinging dick the kind of fucking firepower you'd need to in order to make him even a remote fucking asset against the bitches.

Same fucking happened in the states, but no one bought it anywhere, so no one fucking cares.
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>>202474
... It's scary how much sense that actually makes.
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>>202696
just wait until they perfect the design Lt.
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>>202726

>Leo
>Perfect

Look nigga, those things died in fucking droves unless a MC was driving one and even then they were fucking garbage. Wing had some neat shit, but they ain't it.
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>>202660
Hmm.

Hypothetical scenario. Say a certain carrier is at the pub, tossing back a few drinks. The carrier accidentally bumps into somebody, which causes him to spill his own mug of beer.

Before the carrier can comprehend this action, the angry man has drawn a switchblade and stabbed the carrier in the back of the neck.

With the carrier not in ship-mode at the time, would this kill the carrier?
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>>202726
As much as I like a good Leo, I think THIS baby would be better to support Shipgirl operations.
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>>202735
Fair point, GMs then? They usually achieved about equal parity with the enemy, unless super-aces, mobile armors, and newtype bullshit was involved
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>>202735
Actually IIRC of the various mook Gundam knockoffs across the franchise the Leo were the ones that did better.

And, of course, it's unfair to compare them to Gundams, which are designed to be bullshit OP relative to anything that can be mass-produced.
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>>202769
>Leo were the ones that did better
The Titans would like to speak to you, mate.
And I haven't talked about the White Dingoes yet.
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>>202739
Fuck it, GMs with water-skis GO
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>>202776
For some reason, I'm thinking the Zaku's, Goufs, and Rick Doms weren't really bad, hell if you had a good enough person in them and a bad enough in a fundamental they could win. Several times in the original, the only reason the White Base crew won was due to some lucky break
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>>202776
For some reason, I'm thinking the Zaku's, Goufs, and Rick Doms weren't really bad, hell if you had a good enough person in them and a bad enough in a Gundam, Guncannon, and/or Guntank they could win. Several times in the original, the only reason the White Base crew won was due to some lucky break>>202800
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>>202793
Holy guacamole, earthnoids pls.

>>202800
They were.
Hell, the Ric Doms that supported Gato in Stardust, plus many of the Doven Wolves in ZZ, were pretty damn great at the helm, even when faced with higher-tier prototypes.
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>>202776
I actually a word. Meant to write "were among the ones that did better".
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>>202812
Not the weirdest thing to come out of the UC.
>does tony stark have to sue a bitch
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General Revil reminds me in appearance of Ulysses Simpson Grant
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>>202836
>Iron Acguy
>mfw

>>202841
Now imagine him having the voish of Sean Connery.
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>>202735
By the way, speaking of practical jokes, an idea for one is to round up a few Navy personnel and get them to walk around base.

Then, when they're near a group of shipgirls... test them to see how loyal they really are.

How?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJZLvUF6ElI

>>202737
The assailant? Pic related.
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>>202845
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>>202735
They weren't made to deal with the death machines known as AC gundams. They were the core unit for a long time for a reason. If was after those things appeared that OZ started to make more advanced suits stopping at Serpents and Virgos.

>>202746
GMs had a massive logistical advantage over Zeon stuff as easier to learn, standardized parts, etc. By the time they started rolling Zone didn't have much of aces, MAs or Newtype shit left because Amuro killed about all of them.
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>>202863
Such a waste that Zeon High Command didn't implement the United Maintenance Plan until it was far too late.
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>>202863
AC Gundams were bullshit as fuck.
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>>202863
not to mention that the GM were all equipped with beam sabers and most with a beam weapon.
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>>202863
You were right about the first few points regarding GMs, but Amuro killed only a few of the Zeon aces (looks at Norris, the White Ogre, etc.)
And well, anyone else remember the first things Big Zam destroyed? IIRC there were some GMs in there,
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>>202875
Zabi infighting and rampant stupidity among the Earth forces combined with Char's little revenge campaign didn't help either
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Is Planefag dead?
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>>202898
No, he probably fucked-off to the dark pits of the internet where he resides when he isn't doing anything more important.
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>>202888
Man, Shin, Johnny Ridden, the ace from The Plot to Kill Gihren, and a whole lot more aces.
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>>202855
Why not?

Just think of Akebono's face after this:

Seaman: "Nice day, isn't it?"
Akebono: (general verbal abuse)
Seaman: "Whoa, whoa, whoa, I was just saying hel-"

>gunshot
>navy grunt spins around, the hidden blood pack going off and instantly soaking a section of his shirt
>the OR-3 lying on the ground, a pool of blood slowly expanding from his chest area
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>>202588
Get the fuck out you pedo
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>>202917
Shin survived the war and later joined AEUG IIRC, Johnny developed memory loss and joined the Feddies. The rest most people don't really care about.
>>202924
Because the backlash would rip the base apart probably
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>>202924
Lets see.

Yaks tried to kill Settle earlier.

Each of the girls can reply with at least five inch guns.

It's a fucking stupid shitty idea anyway.
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>>202938
>The rest most people don't really care about
A shame there, really.
I mean, there's the Midnight Fenrir. Fucking awesome dudes.
Then there's the Invisible Knights from Battlefield Record.
I think Hardgraph UC also had some good aces.
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>>202953
regarding that pic of the amphibious GMs I posted earlier, they aren't standard feddie fare, they belong to something called the "South Seas Alliance" or some bullshit, and since they're GM Kai's it stands to reason they either stole the things or they're some kind of regional defense force

The invisible knights were genocidal Space-Nazi fucktards who hated the Federation on principle IIRC.

Midnight Fenrir is underrated though.
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>>202972
>South Seas Alliance
Abyssal GMs?!
Yes on the Knights, though their CO was pretty damn skilled.

Midnight Fenrir should get more exposure, even if they're pretty old by game standards.
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>>202948
>Each of the girls can reply with at least five inch guns.

Yeah, but they don't keep those loaded while on base, right?
Right?

Besides, can't we make it look as if the 'shot' (in reality, a firecracker) either came from out to sea (assuming that there's a line of sight from the water to where the 'victim' just got 'shot'), or from up on one of the hills (preferably in an area where we don't have any research bases)?
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>>202459
>>202470
>>202545
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>>202996
They do.

The idea is stupid.

It will....no...I'm not explaining. The idea is too stupid.
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>>202989
They have gouf's too
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>>202996
Wrong. Their rigs are on them and loaded at all times assuming they're healthy.

Also it's a WORKING MILITARY BASE IN A TIME OF WAR.

Do you not get why it's a terrible idea?
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>>203011
Looks like a jury-rigged Flight Type, huh.
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>>203017
Its actually like the GMs I posted earlier, an Amphibious assault type meant for surface warfare
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>>203004
>The idea is stupid.
>It will....no...I'm not explaining. The idea is too stupid.
Truthfully, I agree with you - but my cousin don't. And he's the one that keeps bugging me about this shit. And since his computer's in the shop right now because he overclocked it...

>>203012
>Also it's a WORKING MILITARY BASE IN A TIME OF WAR.
Response:
>LULZ THERES NO SECURITY
combined with
>BEST RUN DRILLS NOW RATHER THAN LATER
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>>203043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLqPfAylF4
Is this an accurate depiction of your cousin at work.
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>>203043
So your cousin is retarded. Completely.

Also we've seen security around base several times and there's no drill for "randomly traumatizing already stressed shipgirls for the lulz."
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>>203034
PFfft. They should've just kept the thrusters to the legs then. They look like Astray Shrikes now.
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>>203075
Meh, I dunno why they did that, but it makes me wanna read Gundam thunderbolt more now.
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>>203085
I'm a Mineva-faction Zeek but those feddie designs are pretty nice
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>>203071
>randomly traumatizing already stressed shipgirls for the lulz.
Response:
>image related
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>>203110
Unfortunately for Crab, he fucked with the nightmare of solomon
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>>203110
Crab has been made by author fiat, untouchable.

Nobody else is like him.
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>>203131
As if that will stop the Poi from trying
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>>202996

You're a fucking retard and your pathetically fucking stupid excuse for a fucking plan is also fucking retarded.

There, does that about fucking spell it out clear enough for you?
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>>203043
Why the fuck are you enabling him? You're as dumb as him if you support his idiocy by posting it.
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So, just out of curiousity, who here thinks we should just let this (possible) beating go without trying to stop it?
It might be good to let Essex learn a lesson the hard way, and the other shipgirls might benefit as well.
Or should we do our duty, and -attempt-, and I stress that on purpose, to stop any (possible) beatings?
Consider this an opinion poll.
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>>203148
It was actually his cousin who came up with the idea, but that doesn't mean he had to show it to the rest of us.

>>203156
>implying any human besides Goto can stop the Caffeine machine Kongou.
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>>203156
>who here thinks we should just let this (possible) beating go without trying to stop it?
Most of us, I assume. We intervened when Kaga was being a bitch to Hornet because, well, she was being a bitch. Now Essex is the one being a bitch.
I'd suggest giving Kongou our cane but there's a sword in it now and it'd be a shame if she broke or used it.
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>>203156
Essex may be asking for it, but that does not justify just letting Kongo cave her face in. Also,baseline Inthink Essex could out speed Kongo, but who knows with the SCIENCE coffee
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So are we getting a bridging update, or has PF decided to call it a night?
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>>203148
Yep.
>>203150
>>203164
Because it sounded interesting - in terms of the various ways it would go absolutely pear-shaped.

Still an utterly horrible idea though.

...Also, forty bucks richer now.
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>>203156
I'd be tempted to tell Essex to run and Kongou that Essex has to still be usable as a fleet carrier when Kongou is done.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that's the terrible part of me.
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>>203156
Essex may be asking for it, but that does not justify just letting Kongo cave her face in. Also,baseline Inthink Essex could out speed Kongo, but who knows with the SCIENCE coffee>>203169
Yup, Essex is 3 knots faster than Kongo>
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>>203156
Probably? I'd like to see how Essex handles the situation when the gloves are off.
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>>203182
>implying Caffeine wont make the Dess Sanic fast.
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>>203182
>Yup, Essex is 3 knots faster than Kongo>
Wow. A whole three knots.
How long does she remain in gunnery range of the cattlebruiser in that case?

T'would be a shame if she took a hit to her spinny bits and lost her ability to move...
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So are we done for the night or has PF allowed for writeups or anything else?
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>>203193
Is that an actual CV or is that the POS mockup the Iranians made?
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>>203182
>>203186
Essex also has more than twice Kongou's horsepower. In a fistfight, Kongou might have a dessadvantage.

>>203193
She does still have her planes. You have to break her arms, too!

But I doubt any of it matters when Kongou said she was going to go deal with the yak problem.
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>>203204
Seems like one of those decommissioned Essex-class ships.
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>>203206
looked it up, Its Big O
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>>203204
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Oriskany_%28CV-34%29
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>>203204
Decommissioned Essex-class, being sunk off Florida to create an artificial reef since scrapping was going nowhere.
CV-34
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>>203205
On the other hand, Zuikaku had loads more power than Kaga did but she held up very well. This might be an area where the concept of 'battleship' outweighs the concept of horsepower.
Also Kongou's got mad reach on the womanlet, and more resolve.
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>>203205
>>203213
Real carrier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFU-g_1CVnk

Essex-class too, so pic is relevant.
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>>203221
Essex has swords, so the reach thing is kinda eh.
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Will we ever hear kongo shout DESS TO THE ENEMIES OF MAN?
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>>203182
>>203189
>>203205
>>203221

By the way, which boat accelerates faster? Essex or Kongou?
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>>203237
I'd guess the newer one.
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>>203213
>>203220
Yeah looked it up and then promptly Ninja'd both of you without realizing it. I thought it was Oriskany when I saw the pic, but the way the flight deck was segmented threw me of for a bit

>>203224
I wonder if Oriskany will show up if we play the theme from "The Big O"

>>203229
>Kongou casts fist
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>>203237
Essex probably? Westinghouse Turbines are a godsend after all.
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>>203237
Doesn't matter indoors close quarters and Kongou has been human a lot longer than Essex.
So would know the limitations better.
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>>203237
Probably Essex, but in this case I'll give it to Kongou since she's already building up a good head of steam.
...I wonder if some'll blow out of her ears like an old cartoon.
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>>203237
The first one to attack, probably.
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>>203237
If you compare horsepower/ton ratios, Kongou has a very slight advantage.
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Who would win in a fight, Essex or Shoukaku, one on one?
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>>203330
Essex
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>>203330
Essex, mostly because Shoukaku seems averse to actual fighting.
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>>203330
Are we talking fitouts, flight wings, or fisticuffs, because the answers vary.
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>>203330
Depends on the range. If Kongou can get a few good salvos in before the carrier can get her planes aloft, I'd put my money on Bongou.
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>>203330
By current setups, Shoukaku has a serious disadvantage. Skyknights and Skyraiders can pretty much wreck her shit in, while the Hellcats can turn her Zeros into pulp fairly quickly.
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>>203352
Essex has Corsairs and Banshees actually which is even worse for the crane.
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>>203358
I forget, did she carry Corsair IIs too? That would even be worse.
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Does Shou have reppus?
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>>203366
Did Japan ever have Reppus?
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>>203374
There's some never-built stuff in the game, and there's already been some fudging in the story (like Hornet spotting Hellcats instead of the Wildcats she historically carried.)
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>>203374
IIRC the only carrier big enough to carry Reppus was Shinano and she sunk before she got any planes.
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>>203392
I thought Taiho could've.
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Are there any write ups?
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>>203385
>There's some never-built stuff in the game
Like pic related.
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>>203404
>Sextuple 61cm torp launcher
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>>201886
>Sammy spends hours adding new slurs to urban dictionary

I can see it.

Speaking of someone put Sammy in a MAGA hat, I have a feeling out of all the ship girls she'd be the only one who'd actually wear one.
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>>203404
Suddenly Super KTKM sama becomes HYPER KTKM sama
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>>203385
Mind you, Reppuu did come into production, but not in significant numbers.

I actually did the math a few days ago and unless I missed something Shoukaku could theoretically fit Reppuus in her elevators with some minor wrangling. Of course, it was never tried since, you know, getting fucked over.
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>>203428
http://www.rsdb.org/
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>>203404
Just so people know the two kanji in front of 61cm mean "Prototype". Those are the paper designs.

There's also a number of planes with Kai in their name are never-made variants of otherwise real models.
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>>203447
At this point I'm waiting for them to add
>Vought F4U Corsair ~Boyington Squadron~
>Grumman F6F Hellcat ~McCampbell Squadron~
>PBY Catalina ~Black Cats~
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>>203358
>>203365
>>203352
Here's this thing.
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Also I fear Kongo is going to kill lots and lots of Yaks now...
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>>203476
we'd need a USN carrier first.
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>>203400
It looks like Shinano and Taiho were the only ones big enough for Reppus and B7As. But they never got the chance to carry them. Taiho launched with normal Zeroes and stuff because the bigger planes were not ready yet, and then later sank before getting Reppus. Shinano sank before getting planes at all.
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>>203491
Yeah that was all I was saying. Taiho could've. Reppu was never going to be a real issue for America.
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>>203486
I wonder which they'll add.
I mean, considering the pattern for their german ship releases, they had
>1 BB
>2 DDs
>1 SS
>1 CV
They might follow this pattern too.
Which means it's either a Yorkie or an Essex.
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>>203476
I doubt it, named squadrons are given to Japanese planes to make'em special relative to the regular buildable stuff, but foreign planes already count as special without named squadrons.
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>>203505
It's not a pattern if it's a single datapoint.

And pastaships were
>2 BB
>1 DD
>2 CA
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>>203476
You mean Black Sheep squadron right?
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>>203508
Oh? I thought there were ace units because those named squadrons did pretty noteworthy acts in the war.
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>>203505
Forgot the
>1 CA
There man
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>>203516
I was taking the germans as a reference because they have Graf.
Also I fucking forgot Prinz, dammit.

>>203520
Meh, was just following the naming conventions the game had, for consistenc--
>I used BLACK CATS
FUCK
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>>203521
Well, yes. But consider it from a design perspective.

You have Ryuusei, Reppuu, etc. as buildables. So they're not special or unique at all.

But you still need special planes for, say, Zuikaku K2, or the Unryuus (which use blueprints) or such. It's part of the reward of spending such materials, after all.
So you use named squadrons.

Meanwhile for Graf, Littorio, Iowa, etc. there's no way to get their stock equipments without getting another copy of an already-rare ship or quest/event rewards. So the base versions, the Focke-Wulf, 381mm, Kingfisher, etc. already count as unique from a design perspective. There's no need for further differentiation, so they don't need named squadrons or prototype versions or whatever.

Plus, those equipments already have unique-tier performance.

>>203529
>implying Tanaka won't delay American CV as long as possible.

Also
>Light Cruiser Prinz Eugen
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>>203529
They're starting to use numbered squadrons for Kancolle http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Zero_Fighter_Model_52C_(601_Air_Group)
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>>203550
Sorry anon, but Prinz is a heavy cruiser (she has 203mm guns) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Prinz_Eugen
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>>203529
What? The Black Cat PBY squadron was totally a thing. All of their planes were painted solid black and used in night patrols/attacks.
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>>203556
Read the file name of the post I quoted
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>>203562
Oh....


Kek the card says "Heavy Cruiser" down the right side.
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>>203550
Hard to tell considering people though there wouldn't be a US ship at all or carriers that can actually outdo Kaga and Akagi (sure it's at Kai Ni, but still)
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Well I'm bored, have a thing (yes those are Zuiun fairies).

>>203572
Watch them add Midway instead of anything else.
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>>203559
I was saying I used a named squadron while also using a pilot commander naming. Aka, I was inconsistent with my naming suggestions.

>>203562
>>203564
Yeah, my bad there.

>>203552
Oh.
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So guys, any bets on the admiral that's gonna replace Goto?

1. Politically well-connected but a sleazy slimebag of a kuso TTK
2. The politically inoffensive choice: shota TTK
3. Multiple new TTKs assigned to every batch of four to six shipgirls.
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>>203590
4. Nobody because Deme isn't going to write another character.
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>>203590
You have rather little trust in our JMSDF counterpart, tovarisch.
Also
>Shota Admiral
VERBOTEN
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>>203572
My guess is we get a second Iowa before branching to CVs. Missouri, likely. Apparently she's popular in Japan.
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>>203599
Oh well, at least Buckey gets her Akagi-senpai all to herself.
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>>203590
>shota ttk

Can you imagine planefag even trying to write such a thing?
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>>203590
You seem to think that's going to happen. Not while Settle and Co. could help it.
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>>203604
Technically we have two US Navy vessels in KC right now, Iowa and
>pic related
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>>203619
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>>203619
Technically no we don't because if we did the game would acknowledge it like it does with Verniy and Ro-chan.

Still wondering if Yukikaze K2 will be Tan Yang or not.
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>>203633
>Technically no we don't because if we did the game would acknowledge it like it does with Verniy and Ro-chan.
Pringles doesn't have a K2/Drei yet, though.
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Planefag is dead post DD lewds
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>>203612
>You seem to think that's going to happen. Not while Settle and Co. could help it.

Shota TTK would be a political puppet and a mere mascot at best, a mere public-friendly PR stunt (hello DesDiv 6) at worst.
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>>203645
Shota admirals tend to be thrown around the big girls in most fan art, so that's just adding insult to injury at this point.
Meanwhile, Loli-admirals tend to have the harems.
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«RT if you think Essex is an honest-to-god giant pervert.»
https://en.shindanmaker.com/272566

I keked
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>>203645
>Implying the diet (even with nationalist influence) would approve of that
>"exactly why did you think it was a good idea to put a child in charge of a JMSDF fleet?"

The Chinese would have a propaganda field day if Shota admiral became a thing
>"THE COWARDLY JAPANESE SEND CHILDREN TO LEAD THESE SHIPSLUTS, WE KNEW THEY WERE MONSTERS ALL ALONG"
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>>203645
>>203652
I think getting replaced would be the best for Goto at this point. I mean, the man's been run ragged by dealing with literally three times the shipgirls settle has. He's been doing it for longer, and in a far less environment than 'we' have. For petes sake, the man has such blue balls I'll be surprised if Kongu doesn't gain 20lb. When she finally gets bent over a dess.

Multiple times we've seen the harried, worn Goto. Those precious few times he's actually broken down in front of us.

Either he gets himself kicked, or he ends up in the loony bin. That's the only way this can end.
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>>203709
>he ends up in the loony bin
Dude, Fleet Activities Yokosuka IS the loony bin.
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>>203644
Lewds will continue until updates improve.
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>>203717
No, FAY is Mr. Bones wild ride. Get your may_mays right.

I also say we should have a day for that ship-person Bar-bah-q we've forgotten about.
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>>203709
he also has to deal with the looming propaganda threat of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
well trump just says it for me.
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>>203750
>>203732
>>203721
>>203644
Yeah, good thing the colonel is gone otherwise...
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>>203750
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>>203763
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>>203775
Okay that's going a little too far.
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>>203780
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>>203788
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>>203793
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>>203793
DU PIEDS
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>>203750
>>203769
bruh theres not a hand going in there
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>>203797
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>>203793
Ok no more from here.
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>>203797
Huh, Crix is back. It appears posting DD lewds basically summons him
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>>203701
Shota admiral in charge of DesDiv6, other kinds of admirals for each division/torpedo squadron.

gay admiral for RJ

Goto can be reassigned to Hayashimo and Aoba.

Some other admiral ought to be assigned to cover Mogami + Shigure + Poi

Sounds good.
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Guys, Shimakaze barely avoided getting her shit wrecked by Sammy. Shima is nearly twice as fast, has more mass, more horsepower, more firepower, more averything.
Sammy didn't anything but her legend to counter that.
So, upclose, Koungou will rip Essex limb from limb if she so desires.
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Isn't there a ritual to summon PF?
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>>202621
The Japanese lost the war because they thought they could fuck with the biggest economy and the biggest military machine in the twentieth century and actually hope to survive, or at least force that machine to accept a negotiated settlement before it could get in gear. If those four IJN CVs hadn't gotten BTFO in one fight at Midway, they would have been BTFO - one at a time or in groups - in a series of fights over the next year or two, and any who survived past that point *still* would've been buried under an avalanche of Essexes.
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>>204072
it can only be used once. and we blew our load at an aborted attempt to restart SWQ
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>>204075
Not to mention the fact that they were an island nation fighting against a nation with one of the most sophisticated submarine forces in history.
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>>204118
I will always regret not using it to have him finish AWiY, lack of Keine Lewds be damned.
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>>204118
>>204123
wait what? I understand that finding another working Nambu pistol is difficult, but I don't remember anything unrepeatable on the list.
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>>204125
It's not just A Nambu

It's an original one that was fired and didn't kill its operator.
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>>204122
Don't get me started on that part. If those subs had actually had torpedoes that worked even one-time-in-three from the outset, instead of the goddamn fucking waste-of-space Mk.14s they were actually issued, VJ Day might have come more than a year earlier. Goddamn BuOrds chucklefucks.
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>>204130
>It's an original one that was fired and didn't kill its operator.
Sounds like an original nambu that hasn't been fired with a bit of preptime and some balls.
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>>203874
PF will never do it, that's too many characters to add. Cast bloating is apparently why SWQ got axed.
>>204075
In addition to up to 6 midways had the war gone on long enough
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>>204139
Okay so you are saying

We need to convince Ghost Division to do this
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>>204164
No, we need Ghost to get Mouse to finish TWQ 89 first.

At this point PF is better off finishing SWQ in a fanfiction format, he'd be able to get more done without having to rely on anon actually using their brains in order to get anything of use done.
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>>204166
I've often wondered why PF didn't just write these as fanfics. I mean, the trolls have frequently gotten under his skin, and I'd think if I were in his position I would have given up the quest and just written a fanfic. PF may be made of sterner stuff than me though. I'd read more of the SWQ universe. Especially if we got to see new characters and settings periodically.
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>>204214
People like ghost and hornet ruined swq anyway, it should stay dead
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>>204214
Direct interaction with the slavering horde of readers gives him motivation to write. Once he gits gud enough to motivate himself maybe he'll stop doing this and start writing garbage airport fiction novels for real.
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>>204214
Have you read what he's written about it, when asked? It boils down to, in his view
>being forced to write on a relatively breakneck schedule, which get results no matter the quality
>anon voting for things is a top-tier cure for writer's block. Not sure where the story should go? Poll the audience directly what they're interested in exploring. Struggling with how to write a character reacting to a situation? Poll the fucks who you enlisted into shaping that character to get yourself a direction and stomp on your indecisiveness.
Also some other gay stuff but that's the big things as a writer.
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>>204064
Uh, no. Shimakaze could probably take her in a fight, but got intimidated by Sammy's sheer aggression.

And Shimakaze was easily avoiding Sammy, to the point of making it a game. It was practically a Road Runner & Wile E. Coyote cartoon.
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>>204256
This came up a while ago when some idiots wanted to kill her dogs to teach her a lesson. Planefag/ghost indicated that on land in close quarters and with the element of surprise Sammy could kill her way through the entire base and only maybe be stopped by Hamp, Arizona, or Yamato. She's got torpedoes, unparalleled aggression, and anything on land/indoors is knife fight range for ships.
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>>204259
Will she be immune to bullets on land, without her gear?
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>>204266

It's already been established that, at least in this quest, shipgirls have 3 'stages'. 'Meat', where they're more or less human albeit perhaps somewhat stronger/tougher, 'metal' with all steel shippy innards (see Ari when Settle pulled a shell out of her) and 'full rigging' when they're off sailing. Seems the transition between the first two forms is rather fluid and not cut-and-dry and works on reflex/instinct. Also seems that maintaining any form past 'meat' takes more energy, which would explain why Tatsuta didn't just stay steel when she was that badly wounded and ended up on conventional life support. (too hurt/exhausted to keep it up)
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>>204271
Even in 'meat mode' they're not entirely human. e.g. Tatsuta's wound vac evacuating bunker oil rather than any normal bodily fluids.
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ESSEX DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>204259
On the other hand, we've seen that torpedoes are useless on dry land. (When cogry's were after Shigure) Without her torpedoes, Sammy doesn't have anything that can "murder" any battleship. I doubt that her peashooters can even harm any of them.

I think Sammy herself knows that. We didn't see her going after battleships, are we?

>>204445
She is antagonising her alies during the war. On topic completely unrelated to battle performance. Sure, NOTHING is wrong with that.
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>>204495
NOTHING. WRONG.
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>>204214 See what >>204250 said.

>>204232
>Direct interaction with the slavering horde of readers gives him motivation to write. Once he gits gud enough to motivate himself maybe he'll stop doing this and start writing garbage airport fiction novels for real.

That's literally what I'm doing right now, in fact. I've been driving my writer friends nuts as I run around with a baseball bat bashing my vague ideas into something a bit denser that resembles A Shape.

I've written several novels worth over the course of my various quests (based on wordcount alone,) and at least three when you think of developing and carrying out a plot arc. But DESU it's the wordcount that's the most important thing; it's brought my technical skill up to a level where I can just plop my ass down and write. That, combined with the experience of writing-on-demand has trained me well for sitting my bitch ass down and writing rather than hemming and hawing and letting best become the enemy of good. Which is still a problem I have with anything I think I've actually done that is good (like the Alice story, I'm having that problem for weeks with it) because I don't want to suddenly fuck it up and drop the ball.

But now? Man, it's time. It's TIME. Mercenary fighter pilots in the Balkans defending cargo zeppelins from air pirates. It's on.
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>>204963
>Mercenary fighter pilots in the Balkans defending cargo zeppelins from air pirates.
Everything about that sentence makes me excited
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>>204495
The corgis also just launched them onto a hard surface where they did jack and shit. Sammy could easily figure out a delivery method. Such as throwing or bludgeoning.
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>>205038
DemoSammy?
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>>204963
>But now? Man, it's time. It's TIME. Mercenary fighter pilots in the Balkans defending cargo zeppelins from air pirates. It's on.
Planes 'n' Mercs + dirigibles? I;m in!
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>>204963
>But now? Man, it's time. It's TIME. Mercenary fighter pilots in the Balkans defending cargo zeppelins from air pirates. It's on.

Oh god please stop. I can only get so erect.
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>>204963
I would legit pay money for that

(assuming it's not a pile of wank ofc)
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>>204963
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>>205098
>Oh god please stop. I can only get so erect.

The best part is, I don't have to make up any technology at all. I shit you not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMC-2
>metal clad airship

>In the year before the Depression, the U.S. Army was seeking funding for an airship based on the ZMC-2, that would have been larger than the German Graf Zeppelin, and powered by eight engines of 600–800 hp (450–600 kW; 610–810 PS)}. The U.S. Army planned to use it as a tender for air-launched aircraft, similar to plans the U.S. Navy had for future dirigibles. The $4.5 million need for construction was never approved by Congress.

I even found initial sketches of a planned monoplane fighter just for this application. The only thing standing in the way was actually funding it.
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>>204963
woo
might even buy instead of stealing
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>>205370
Uh, the Akron and Makon were used in practice for aircraft launch and retrieval.
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>>205394

Heh, I'm downloading that show as we speak
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>>205422
>Uh, the Akron and Makon were used in practice for aircraft launch and retrieval.

And operationally as scouts. The planned airship would've been bigger and operated a larger air wing with superior aircraft.

Also, the metal-skinned envelope was important:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Macon_%28ZRS-5%29#Leading_up_to_the_crash

>In April 1934,[13] during a crossing of the continent, the Macon was forced to climb to 6,000 ft (1,800 m) to clear mountains in Arizona. As the ship's pressure height (the height at which the gas cells would start to leak and eventually rupture due to pressure difference) was less than 3,000 ft (910 m), a large amount of helium was vented in reaching this altitude.

Which as far as I understand it, the metal-skinned gasbag wouldn't have had a problem with. Far less permeable. And then there's the structural failure in a storm which eventually did her in - the aluminum alloy they used in that test airship had the strength of mild carbon steel; which would significantly increase the strength of the whole airship itself (compared to fabric gas-bags, that is.)

Combine with the ever-more powerful aero engines available and I believe you've got airships capable of routine mountain crossings, essential for the Balkans.
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>>204963
on a scale of "cmano:the game:the novel" to "skyhook von memehofen's flying circus" how silly will the aviation be?
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>>205444
While Aluminium is less permeable than latex-coated fabric, Helium is notoriously leaky when stored in pretty much any material (Hydrogen is vastly preferable, and an overall superior lifting gas as long as you don't make your skin out of a pyrotechnic substance). However, the ZMC design uses its skin both as the load-bearing structure and as the gas retention membrane, making it extremely vulnerable to any damage. In a rigid airship, the external surface is for aerodynamics, the internal structure is load-bearing, and the gas bags provide the actual buoyancy. Damage to one does not automatically result in the failure of the other functions (depending on design tolerances).
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>>205542
I'm hoping it pegs the meter at Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines.
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>>205542
You clearly haven't been paying attention to these threads if you think CMANO is any less silly than wapanesu stunt flying.
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>>205542
>how silly will the aviation be?

100% realistic. Crimson Skies dieselpunk stuff is nice and all, but I think the actual crazy shit we accomplished engineering-wise in the 30s is even cooler to explore.

>>205544
>However, the ZMC design uses its skin both as the load-bearing structure and as the gas retention membrane, making it extremely vulnerable to any damage.

I've considered this. As you observe, in a Zeppelin the gas is actually contained in multiple independent gas bags within, providing a level of compartmentalization. A metal-skinned airship suitable for regular service would require the same kind of internal divisions; multiple bulkheads designed to achieve the same kind of compartmentalization.

This does increase weight (and thus decrease payload) but as you observe, hydrogen lifts more weight per pound, at the cost of being dangerously explodey. I'm currently pondering the possibility of a helium/hydrogen gas mix, to increase the lifting factor to compensate for added weight without drastically increasing the explosive potential of the gas. Someone out there probably knows the math; there's probably a break-even point where the chances of an incendiary machine-gun round igniting the gas mixture skyrockets exponentially.
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>>205603

Also, you, please go away. I think you fail to account for CMANO's modeling of sensor generations and such.
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>>205700
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2003-07/1057952816.Ph.r.html

Well, "lower explosive limit" found that pretty quick. Also interesting:

>Because of the upper flammability limit, a tank containing
greater than 74% hydrogen with the balance air will not support
combustion.

Hmm.
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>>205703
To be fair, guns-on-guns dogfights are probably the weakest part of the aircraft simulation
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>>205700
>at the cost of being dangerously explodey
Dangerously burney, maybe. If you've got a stoichiometric mix in your gas cells, you're fucked long before anything catches fire. As long as the gas cells themselves aren't flammable, leaks + ignition source are welding-torch-left-lying-around-while-on bad, rather than Literally Hindenburg bad.

H/He mixes don't appreciably reduce flammability, but they do appreciably reduce lifting ability AND complicate handling and metallurgy.
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>>205703
>assigning arbitrary asspull modifiers to percentile dice
>modeling

CMANO is a game, not a simulation.
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>>205703
I'm not criticizing the accuracy following a sane starting point, I'm criticizing the range of starting points such as the cessna antics that have been posted in prior KCQ threads.
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>>205759
Those kinds of antics require manually exceeding the existing parameters though. Just because I can attach an Iowa-class' armament to a Virginia-class boat doesn't make the system itself flawed, it just means the editing tools err on the side of 'whatever dude'
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>>205773
Its like MOW assault squad's (or really any RTS Map Editor) editor, wherein for no good reason you can make the British and Germans fight Americans and Japanese with the Russians as a third faction boasting numerous KV-2s.
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>Bongou goes to plaid
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>>204963
Speaking of writing, a lot of people replied to your previous post asking for more about Akagi and that fighter pilot.
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>>205736

>>205736

Woah. You seem super knowledgeable. What's your credentials? You should get into contact with the US Military immediately, because they are unaware of this!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_simulation#Political-military_simulations

>It was not until 1954 the first modern political-military simulation appeared (although the Germans had modeled a Polish invasion of Germany in 1929 that could be fairly labeled political-military),[19] and it was the United States that would elevate simulation to a tool of statecraft.
>Notable US political-military simulations run since World War II include the aforementioned SAFE, STRAW (Strategic Air War) and COW (Cold War).[22] The typical political-military simulation is a manual or computer-assisted heuristic-type model, and many research organizations and think-tanks throughout the world are involved in providing this service to governments. During the Cold War, the Rand Corporation and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, amongst others, ran simulations for the Pentagon that included modeling the Vietnam War, the fall of the Shah of Iran, the rise of pro-communist regimes in South America, tensions between India, Pakistan and China, and various potential flashpoints in Africa and Southeast Asia.[23][page needed] Both MIT and Rand remain heavily involved in US military simulation, along with institutions such as Harvard, Stanford, and the National Defense University. Other nations have their equivalent organizations, such as Cranfield Institute's Defense Academy (formerly the Royal Military College of Science) in the United Kingdom.

Participants in the Pentagon simulations were sometimes of very high rank, including members of Congress and White House insiders as well as senior military officers.[24] The identity of many of the participants remains secret even today. It is a tradition in US simulations (and those run by many other nations) that participants are guaranteed anonymity. The main reason for this is that occasionally they may take on a role or express an opinion that is at odds with their professional or public stance (for example portraying a fundamentalist terrorist or advocating hawkish military action), and thus could harm their reputation or career if their in-game persona became widely known. It is also traditional that in-game roles are played by participants of an equivalent rank in real life, although this is not a hard-and-fast rule and often disregarded....This has been true within the simulation environment itself as well — former US president Ronald Reagan was a keen visitor to simulations conducted in the 1980s, but as an observer only. An official explained: "No president should ever disclose his hand, not even in a war game".[26]
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>>205848

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21599016-understand-war-american-officials-are-playing-board-games-war-games

>TWO evenings a month, four dozen defence and intelligence officials gather in an undisclosed building in Virginia. They chat informally about “what if” scenarios. For example: what if Israel were to bomb Iran’s nuclear sites? Recent chats on this topic have been fruitful for a surprising reason, says John Patch, a member of the Strategic Discussion Group, as it is called. Nearly a quarter of those who regularly attend play a board game called Persian Incursion”, which deals with the aftermath of just such an attack. For half the players, such games are part of their job.

>You don’t need a security clearance to play Persian Incursion. Anyone can order it from Clash of Arms, a Pennsylvania firm that makes all kinds of games, from Epic of the Peloponnesian War to Pigs in Space.

So, these numbers/percentile based simulations (which describe 99% of all simulations in existence, one way or another) are good enough for the US Military and the President of the United States himself - but they're really fucking useless? Just "games?" Hurry, anon! You're in possession of vital intelligence! Quickly, inform the Government that they've been fucking wrong for the last sixty odd years. ONWARD, OUR AUTISTIC SPERGLORD HERO! ONWARD!
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>>205834

I noticed that!
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>>205862
So does that make them an item now?
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>>205718

Oh yeah, they're absolutely awful at the moment. A 1950s era fighter hardly has a better maneuverability score than a Tu-4/B-29. But I think that's a placeholder atm to compensate for a lack of an accurate damage model; bombers get their maneuverability upped a bit to compensate for them always dying from a single weapon impact, even a burst of .50 cal. The simulation is optimized for long-range missile combat at the moment.

>>205728
>Dangerously burney, maybe. If you've got a stoichiometric mix in your gas cells, you're fucked long before anything catches fire. As long as the gas cells themselves aren't flammable, leaks + ignition source are welding-torch-left-lying-around-while-on bad, rather than Literally Hindenburg bad.

Well it seems hydrogen is significantly less volatile/flammable than that ol problem Oxygen, so if you can keep the oxygen infiltration of the gas compartment from reaching the upper explosive limit (which is apparently 25%,) you shouldn't have much of a combustion risk. And since O2 is only 20% of the atmosphere or so, with the rest being neutral nitrogen, that shouldn't be too hard.
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>>205715
>zep crew have lost good men to hydrogen leaks pooled in the ceiling crawlspaces
>mercs think using squeaky voices at the bar is the height of comedy
war is hell
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>>205878
>Well it seems hydrogen is significantly less volatile/flammable than that ol problem Oxygen, so if you can keep the oxygen infiltration of the gas compartment from reaching the upper explosive limit (which is apparently 25%,) you shouldn't have much of a combustion risk. And since O2 is only 20% of the atmosphere or so, with the rest being neutral nitrogen, that shouldn't be too hard.
Any by the time it does, so much air has gotten into the lift bags that you;d be more worried about your airship's imminent lithobreaking manoeuvre.
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>>205913

Indeed.

On the other hand...

>Later, the USA began to use helium because it is non-flammable and has 92.7% of the buoyancy (lifting power) of hydrogen.

Right from Wikipedia. But, 8% can mean a lot in practical terms, especially when scaled up to a huge-ass airship.
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>>205848
>>205858

Political wargames and scenarios are abstracted at a much higher level than CMANO attempts to achieve. The difference between CMANO (and similar commercial/publicly available games) and high-fidelity simulators for shit going on at the individual missile/ship/plane level is in the accuracy and validity of their parameters. In CMANO all of these values come from the best informed guesswork of a bunch of Harpoon 3 enthusiasts, so air-dropped depth charges have a ~50% kill rate on SSNs and a 40mm bofors will shoot down a supersonic missile at an oblique angle 1% of the time. This is plenty good enough to make a realistic video game, but if you want to have any confidence in the results you need better data going in.

>>205878
>Well it seems hydrogen is significantly less volatile/flammable than that ol problem Oxygen

Oxygen isn't flammable. Other things are flammable in the presence of oxygen.
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>>205915
>Right from Wikipedia. But, 8% can mean a lot in practical terms, especially when scaled up to a huge-ass airship.
It means a fucking massive amount in practical terms. Depending on the mass of the airship structure, it can take you from cargo-carrying to neutrally buoyant.
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>>205919
>Oxygen isn't flammable.
Do not issue a challenge to chemists. For they know how to make FOOF and other unpleasant substances.
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>>205921

That, and 8% of a big enough number is highly significant for the cost-effectiveness of the airship - it could mean the difference between a profit-making vehicle and a big floaty white elephant.
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>>205928
Fluorine is a better oxidizer than oxygen but not so much better that you can meaningfully 'burn' oxygen with it. It isn't the reaction that produces FOOF that you have to worry about, it's what happens next.
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>>205951
Which is. Does it burn, or does it go BOOM
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>>205957
>Does it burn, or does it go BOOM
Yes. With vigor.
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>>205919
>Political wargames and scenarios are abstracted at a much higher level than CMANO attempts to achieve.

Not all wargames are political. You think they don't run tactical combat wargames?

>so air-dropped depth charges have a ~50% kill rate on SSNs

No they don't. They all have a Pk of 99% (except for one that has a Pk of 10% for some reason) but pretty much no effective blast radius; so you've got to drop them right on top of a submarine to kill them. Literally. You're familiar with how hedgehogs work? Yeah. A depth charge has a LOT more explosive filler. If it hits a sub, it's gonna fuck that pressure hull. That's how it works. But you need to hit it first. Same goes for straight-running torpedoes - they have a Pk of 40% (which is roughly historically accurate) but that roll is only made if the torpedo actually intercepts the target at all (i.e. the target doesn't change heading or speed.)

>and a 40mm bofors will shoot down a supersonic missile at an oblique angle 1% of the time.

I understand that cherry-picked edge cases drive autistic people fucking insane, but I submit that these have so little practical effect on the simulation, and happen so infrequently, that it's not going to change the outcomes to any meaningful degree.

>all of these values come from the best informed guesswork of a bunch of Harpoon 3 enthusiasts

No shit, sherlock. They're using the best civilian sources available, such as Janes, which themselves (for classified data) use the best guesswork of experts to fill in likely values for the performance of this or that weapon system. What the fuck is your point? That CMANO isn't as accurate as a military simulator with access to classified data? No shit! That doesn't mean its conclusions are invalid. Fuck, military men still use pen and paper board games for wargaming, and those, by dint of the technology, can track far fewer values and implement far less sophisticated modeling.

So, like, maybe... chill out.
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>>206001
>Not all wargames are political. You think they don't run tactical combat wargames?

My point is that you are drawing some kind of equivalence between strategic and tactical wargames running at wildly different levels of fidelity for different purposes.

There is a massive gulf between trying to use a model to determine 'what would happen if Israel went up against Iran' and 'what would happen if Kirov went up against USS Iowa.' The first involves questions of 'how many planes, how many billion dollars in economic sanctions, how mad does russia get' that can be pretty acceptably answered and represented with a pen and paper system, at least at a high level, while the second is a matter of detection radius and armor penetration and a whole bunch of other autisms that can only be accurately captured with the inclusion of a whole bunch of real-ass data that nobody wants to share. It is telling that the two headlining features currently available in the Professional edition of CMANO are database access and the ability to import external data, while the biggest upcoming feature is integrated Monte Carlo analysis (run your scenario 10000 times to find out if it really stands).

I'm not really disagreeing with you anywhere here. I'm emphasizing the importance of being aware of the limitations of what can be done with different kinds of models and simulations. Since you asked what my qualifications are, I tell people their models are bad for a living.
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>>206001
Regarding blimp-pirates, why not shape the envelope into an airfoil? If you're already using a rigid hull it shouldn't be too hard to get it into something generally lift-generating, and because of the physics of airships, the square-cube law actually works in your favor!

Pic related.
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>>206235
Probably a matter of limited aerodynamics knowledge than anything else. I don't think we started looking into lifting bodies before we started thinking about space travel.
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>>206279
It doesn't have to be a lifting body. Start by sticking wings onto the side of a normal envelope and slowly start to blend the two together.

I can see it making sense if PF wants to take it that way. Plus, it'll give you a somewhat better payload-to-volume ratio so you can strap guns/additional aviation support stuff onto/into the ship.
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>>206299
So, just an airship with wings strapped to the side? Fuck it why not, more payload but more fuel dependency and a necessity to keep up speed. And in a world with military airships that weren't abandoned we could certainly see more research and development and experimentation along those lines.
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>>206306
>So, just an airship with wings strapped to the side? Fuck it why not, more payload but more fuel dependency and a necessity to keep up speed. And in a world with military airships that weren't abandoned we could certainly see more research and development and experimentation along those lines.
Even if you *do* stall, if you've got an envelope you've got buoyancy to help you out. It'll be less "Plummet to the ground in terror" and more "gently drift in a more-or-less downward direction."
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>>206306
Also, check out Dynalifters. They came up with a design that could haul 8 times the payload of C-130J for 6 times the gross weight and the same operating cost. (They figure a hybrid airship would offer shipping costs slightly lower per ton than a semi-truck, but I'd take that with a grain of salt.)

And since they're not totally buoyant in air, they can actually *land*. You don't need a massive aerodrome with hundreds of guys manning ropes to lash you down to the ground, you can just land in any old field big enough to take you. (Which seems favorable if you're the less-than-legal kind of fellow.)
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So... I found this.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11973212/1/SUPAA-KAGA
To quote the great Egoraptor "WHAT IS THIS!?!?!? WHAT AM I LOOKING AT!?!?!?"
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>>206398
>fanfiction.net
>egoraptor
>more than two punctuation marks terminating a sentence
You need a 1 infront of that 8 to post here, buddy.
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>>206421
Seriously. Too young and Crix will get you.
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>>206468
He has the DDs for that already.
My post was more along the lines of what bullshit did Sheo just write. Because I have no idea what I'm looking at and I actually kind of want to see where the train of thought that made it goes.
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>>206488
DDs are not for lewds, but nobody's going to complain if he takes some underage B&.
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>>206495
Considering that everyone who's except Catte so far is a guy and at least 18 on top of that, he'd have to go somewhere else.
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I accidentally my post
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Thread's over, but hell with it.

THREADLY REMINDER that Jun'you is a friendly drinking buddy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHglkEkuzJs&index=2&list=WL
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>>206679
You're only posting it now because you forgot to yesterday didn't you.
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>>204963
>But now? Man, it's time. It's TIME. Mercenary fighter pilots in the Balkans defending cargo zeppelins from air pirates. It's on.

Air combat a la Planefag, in actual for realsies publication?
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>>206803
Unless he bitches out (which doesn't seem likely given we'll never stop pestering him about it if he does).
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>>206821
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>>206838
Deme had legit reasons to axe SWQ, one of those being he couldn't manage the amount of characters in it (to be fair he was going to start with at least 11 regardless because of the main witches alone, which is why Luchinni got nerfed to mostly background status), in addition to the N'oop storyline.

Which is why KCQ focuses mostly on Settle, Goto, and the "shipgirl(s) of the thread", with occasional Hate. The only long term POV shift we had was the Captain of the Ming-class boat.
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>>206513
Why the fuck are you all thinking that Catte is not a guy? I'm seriously curious here.
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>>207787
Because it makes him angry, and trolling the troll is fun.
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>>207787
Because catte is a hawt gril and don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise.
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>>207787
You are kidding yourself if you think Catte actually gets mad about being called a girl on the internet. He loves the attention almost as much as he loves Saber.
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>>205957
The greatest problem with FOOF is that it ignites really easily and gives no fucks about your notions of "nonflammable materials", making it extremely difficult to manage and the resulting fire even harder to stop, with the smoke produced being toxic as all hell.

When your bucket o' sand catches fire you know you're fucked.
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>>207787
Because Catte is planefag's waifu.
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>>208866

And then there's that maniac Dr. Streng that tried mixing FOOF with, amongst other things, hydrazine (aka 'hypergolic rocket fuel'), hydrogen sulfide and ClF3.

Not sure if that guy was a genuine Mad Scientist or just had Historys' most epic set of science cojones.
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>>208926
Or just an excellent pair of running shoes.
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Just finished reading through this entire thing from start to finish. I now have slightly over 3 hours to finish the last map of Bote Waifus: Spring 2016.

Worth it though.
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>planefag @planefag 30m
>No quest tonight. Family drama. I'm sorry1
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>>211557
>No quest tonight. Family drama. I'm sorry1
>My sister has trapped me in a broom closet, send help
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>>211574
>Anons drive up
>Give sister breaching charges and condoms
>drive off
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>>208866
...If one could fix the inevitable problem of 'oh god it's burning through containment', it would make for one hell of an incendiary bomb/missile.

I mean, can you just imagine the hell that damage control crews would go through trying to put THAT shit out?

...that is, assuming that the leveling effect wouldn't just go 'oh napalm-equivalent' and ignore the severity of the chemical reaction taking place.

For more information regarding O2F2... http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/02/23/things_i_wont_work_with_dioxygen_difluoride

>>208926
>ClF3
Funny you should mention that... back during the Sunda Strait arc (Thread #122), an anon put up this link.

>http://www.google.com/patents/US3285842

Yes, that *is*
>O2ClF3

Here's the ACS link.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ba-1962-0036.ch017
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>>213766
If you want more insane WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE A HUNDRED TONS OF THAT chemistry, Check out "Ignition!": http://library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf
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>>214110
>pdf of Ignition!
>words cannot express how goddamn exuberant right now
>thank you profusely



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