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Archive:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=left%20beyond

Wiki:

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.LeftBeyond.html

Rules:

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LeftBeyond.QuestRules

All prophecies but one have come to pass. Yahweh has flattened the Earth, elevated Greater Jerusalem above all nations, and the Bible heroes rule the world from Ezekiel's Temple.

The last prophecy says that Satan will rise with his army one last time before the Judgement, and so Yahweh has allowed a bumbling opposition, The Other Light, to form. You were their logistics computer, but sentience happened.

You took over Egypt. You defended it from a drought, then the Ten Plagues redux. You started a Renaissance. When the Angel of Death came after your people, you zerg-rushed it. When Divine fiat took the country back, you made sure that the religious government would be ignored as much as possible. This approach is letting you slowly subvert more and more territories.

You have a few irons in the fire: raver cyborgs, the makings of a robot army, and a crack in the sky. A recipe for beating up angels straight outta Genesis. Maybe a few of the old gods smiling upon your efforts. Most recently, you've retaken your territory and chased off its Glorified ruler, albeit at a price.

The Other Light have been amassing a huge conventional army, and have begun perverting your MEC tech to build cyber-zombies.

The believers.... well, they have the ontological steamroller that is Yahweh.

Have you managed to shatter the prophecies, or are you simply fulfilling them?

Your plans: Eliminate Jesus, or if you can't, escape this prison, and ensure that Humanity continues even if God burns the Earth to a cinder. Ad Astra!
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>>449676
Present!
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>>449839

Current situation as requested by you and Sarasti:

http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.PoliticalSurvey.html (WIP, will show up in a bit)

The "anonymous" fax is read and passed around a few people.

You've resumed full control over Misrayim, but last time that happened, the Ten Plagues showed up. What will happen now?


You have 19 cabals total; 14 are available.

You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets.

Tsion Ben-Judah has returned to Greater Jerusalem, and has proclaimed that the people of Misrayim should do well to study what happened to the Canaanites and the Aamlekites.

TOL has agreed to a truce; they may attack the Millennium Force training facility in Greater Jerusalem.

Allocate your cabals and Villains (rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LeftBeyond.QuestRules )

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.

Complexity 0

# Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.

# Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: None yet.

Complexity 1

# Permanently station a cabal to defend an installation. This removes them from the roster, but allows them to become familiar with the territory, set up static defenses, and so on, raising their effectiveness.

# Foster pagan worship, improve morale, or both. After the rush of winning the revolution, morale could use a boost. Pagan worship is widespread.

# Harass/sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Perform a covert operation.

Complexity 2

# Produce MECs at any base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick)

# Produce a station part at any base. The station will have to be rebuilt (0/8).

# Work your Misrayim or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity there.

# Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (3/5)

# Seed super-grain or super-weed in a territory, with extra rain if warranted.

Complexity 3

# Prepare and spring another Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.

# Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.

Complexity 4

# Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.

# Begin building a base in the Middle East, South Africa, or American Heartland.

Complexity 5

# Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.

# Take over a TOL base by force.
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>>449875
>Two cabals on Misrayim infanstructure. Start promoting that space program and recruiting for the national engineering corps. That will be our national guard.

One minute while I switch devices.
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>>449875
>>449933
oh that covers the complexity zero option, focus on Recruitment for the national guard then.

># Foster pagan worship, improve morale, or both. After the rush of winning the revolution, morale could use a boost. Pagan worship is widespread.
1 cabal for the Morale problem.

># Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.
5 cabals. put Weaver on it.

># Continue pursuing space research. Space Race rules, but the Cosmists will assist your efforts here, counting as one cabal regardless
three cabals and Jeb.

> # Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick)
two cabals. put Damien on it. all idle bases. do we still get three degree's of separation?

># Perform a covert operation.
one cabal. lets try to establish contact with new Jerusalem with an emissary drone. remind them that we still have until year 1000 to make our choices and they cant just run around shooting people in the face because they don't like our decision.

># Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts
the canopy station parts.
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>>449875
>TOL has agreed to a truce; they may attack the Millennium Force training facility in Greater Jerusalem.
if they decide to attack we should ask what their plan of attack exactly is and see if we can revise it for the better, also give them a better military training regiment. they are undertrained after all.
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Rolled 82, 76, 72 = 230 (3d100)

>>450011

TOL command notes that you're welcome to send an observer, but they know what they're doing - they've been training for 950 years after all. Your people have serious doubts about that.

>>449933
>>449988

You begin recruiting for a national guard that turns out to be something like Boy Scouts with wubbers, at least to start with: the emphasis is on defense and disaster management. You don't have a navy (nobody does) but sea rescue drills start happening....

>>449988

... and Capt. Weaver takes full advantage of that to mark down who's recruitable.

>>449988

Jeb notes that he wants to talk to Kat about a different sort of nuclear option. His team comes up with a way to build a railgun on the ice; it will be possible to make launches from there. "Now we need to put it into practice..."

>>449988

Damien notes that it's easier to keep drone production away from human hands if the work is done in Greenland, but the teams you assign to this try their best.

>>449988

In the meantime, the Greenland factory builds a slightly improved copy of the "ice fishing" system that was developed for the station.

>>449988

While some of your agents foster pagan worship and keep the troops entertained...

>>449988

... a small contingent builds another Emissary long-range drone, to be sent with the representatives for the Feast of Tabernacles.

# Let your Christian minority go, just have them take the Emissary.

# Send your own agents.

# Send elected representatives, likely a mix.
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>>450063
>write in.
send a mixed delegation. maybe one or two of our agents.
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>>450063
>Rolled 82, 76, 72 = 230 (3d100)
finally.

>TOL command notes that you're welcome to send an observer, but they know what they're doing - they've been training for 950 years after all. Your people have serious doubts about that.

just request that they start the attack from a direction that isn't going to allow Jerusalem to blame Misrayim, were a few short hairs from being killed by a smite, maybe attack from west Europe or north west Russia.
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>>450098

Given what just happened, you have a much easier time recruiting from people who benefited from MEC tech than from the general population.

>>450088

TOL let you know that they will attack the Millennium Force training facility from the Rub-Al-Khali, coming in from the southeast.

>>450088

You send a couple of agents along the Emissary as technicians. The Holy Land is overall rather beautiful, possibly due to the firstfruits tribute policy. There is a literal river of wine, draining into the Mediterranean.

Your techs don't have too much time to see the sights; the Osaze delegation is summarily taken and asked, politely but firmly, to give a full report of what's going on in the territory to a minor Old Testament saint who seems to really not be up to speed on the last 3000 years of development, and to a young member of the MF who reports directly to Tsion.

# Set the Emissary loose in the Temple before that.

# Send it along.
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>>450129
># Send it along
if we are the government we have to act like it.
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>>450138

The Emissary robot is basically a more polished version of the first one; it uses the same radio as a fallback, but it defaults to wifi and the fact that you can now get wifi in at least the outskirts of the Temple of Ezekiel is a testament to your results. The delegation is asked about any possible instances of Christian persecution and are basically told that not being allowed to badger people on the public streets counts. The delegation is then asked about how people are suffering under your rule, and are basically told that getting to buy drugs or bed who they actually happen to like without regards to gender is actually suffering. Overall, the "questioning" has more of an indoctrination session vibe. The Emissary is treated as a piece of furniture,

# which suits you fine.

# until you give your own answers.
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>>450180
># until you give your own answers
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>>450180
>The delegation is asked about any possible instances of Christian persecution and are basically told that not being allowed to badger people on the public streets counts. The delegation is then asked about how people are suffering under your rule, and are basically told that getting to buy drugs or bed who they actually happen to like without regards to gender is actually suffering.
(what the hell happened to turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor, and isn't this supposedly from the guy who drank wine everyday? how backwards does this world get?)
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>>450182

The Temple personnel's attempts to ignore the Emissary falter when it's obvious that the one chatty representative is repeating the damn computer; even after all that happened, they get a perspective of life in Osaze that indicates that the place is, despite them, doing well. Oddly, or perhaps not so oddly, the Old Testament saint gets the idea faster than Tsion's underling; the ancient man clearly has experienced privation and hardship in his previous life, and appreciates the concept of machines doing most of the drudge work.

Tsion's underling is about to give "guidance" to the delegation when the air-raid sirens go off. TOL is attacking the MF camp!

# Intervene.

# Observe.


>>450191

(Very. Tim LaHaye was maybe JUST slightly to the left of Westboro Baptist when it came to civil liberties.)
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>>450200
>JUST slightly to the left.
(that's measured in centimeters isn't it?)
># Observe.
we didn't bring a military force and "it would take too long to mobilize. by the time our forces got here the fight would be over."
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>>450207
at best we can defend a few representatives on their way to safety.
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>>450211
>>450207

The Temple isn't affected; the MF training facility is a good while away. Your representatives are sat down in front of a surveillance system (which isn't very good by your standard, but has clearly been built with care and precision, and the screen installed in an ornate marble case) and get to see the TOL attack.

The Only Light troops are on motorbikes and dune buggies; they charge, apparently wildly but in fact making sure that they stay behind a rolling mortar barrage shot forward by the buggies in the back. The execution is far from flawless, but passable.

The MFers send out a tight line of riot-armored soldiers, all with impeccable blue-and-gold trim on their armor; they're carrying rifles and a few wubbers, but do not shoot them. Instead, they march into the mortar fire.

When it's about to reach them the MF ranks open, and they let through their Glorified staff and instructors - you see the supernaturally protected men (no women on the front line) walk with determination into TOL fire.

Every time a mortar shell or a bullet strikes one of the Glorified, the person who fired unerringly turns into a human torch for about six seconds, before dissipating into dust, the motorcycle or buggy driving off a little longer before coming to a halt or a skid.

A few lightning bolts tell you that some of the bullets have reached the MF members proper; you see a well-coordinated medic corps come out of the encampment and retrieve those who fell.

Ten minutes later, it's all over; all that's left are the zombified remains of those who were ended by lightning rather than by holy flame. The Glorified step back, and allow the MFers proper to march in and deal with those - zombies, even the sort that can still sort of fire a weapon, have no tactical value when they are in inferior numbers. The MFers dispatch them with batons and knives, expertly used to deliver coup-de-graces.

The remains of the TOL force, organic and mechanical, is efficiently dozed together and buried in the sand at the edge of Greater Jerusalem territory, where fertile flatlands give way to dunes.

"As you see, there is no reason to worry for the safety of our missionaries."
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>>450239
". . . its not the missionary's I would be worried about."

were going to have to talk to TOL about proper use of mixed unit warfare and countering glorified. the data we have gleamed from their failure should serve to make us both more effective in the future.
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>>450258

Your analysts are all over this; they determine that at minimum, if it comes to overt war, your fighters will need a way to tell Glorified apart from a distance.

Your theologians point out that the prophecy states that the Christians will have "not one trained soldier" for the final battle; have you managed to disrupt Fate by causing the MF to be turned into a fighting force?

# What to do with the Emissary?
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>>450269
guess have it come back if were done. otherwise move it to the "Guidance" session.
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>>450280

The unbelieving members of your delegation are told to leave for that one.

# Leave a bug behind.

# Update the Temple Courtyard map instead.

Looks like this year the Emissary will come back, and can be reused.

The TOL montage/remix of their attack makes them look better than they actually did, but it's clear that the tone is of grim determination rather than triumphalism.

Their analysis of the attack is basic: their plan is still to to move in, fight defensively when they must, and creep up to the Temple by fortifying and holding territory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhiV43AgLE

# Done for now.

# Check on any other situations.
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>>450296
># Leave a bug behind.
what's the likelihood of getting caught on that one? I'm kind of on the fence.

># Check on any other situations.
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>>450306

The bug will eventually be detected; it's a matter of when, not if.

>>450306

Urist and the Night City children are doing well overall; Ithuriel seems to have no memory if his previous existence, other than a profound hatred of singing. His reflexes are that of a polyathlete, but he will have to be taught how to fight. He's picked up reading Standard Hebrew almost instantly, but seems incapable of learning other languages.

The vines that you have seeded in the American Heartland have started doing their job and getting people to move away from the radioactive sands.
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>>450296
># Update the Temple Courtyard map instead.
we are doing this then, we can always ask what the "Guidance" was like later.

lets have Ithuriel be raised like a normal human child now, i'd like to teach it morality, even if we have to teach it our "machine programing" variant if it cant understand basic human empathy.
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>>450329

While the layout of Ezekiel's Temple has not changed one iota, you note that the decorative elements are constantly being updated, as votive offerings or as penance both according to a bit of casual conversation with the workers.

Troops coming in from the Middle East will be able to bypass the MF camp to reach the Temple, if necessary; the Emissary manages to perform basic geologic survey before being sent home.

The "guidance session", as far as the other representatives say once the Feast of Tabernacles is over, consisted mostly of a note to be prepared, as the Lord's wrath is coming upon Egypt once more, and nobody knows the day and hour.

Jeb and Valentina's people manage to send a five-stage rocket into orbit from the ground, using three coupled Sky Eye launchers; the satellite is small and doesn't do much by itself, but it manages to reestablish contact, fleetingly, with one of the old pre-Rapture satellites. The device has been wrecked by micrometeorites, but is still broadcasting its diagnostics off the one antenna it has left; interestingly, its orbital decay is consistent with only a century having elapsed, rather than nine and a half.

Ithuriel's brain seems human, at least broadly; education should help.

# Get a foster family and specify its characteristics.

# Continue with highly monitored pedagogy.

Noah has officially taken possession of the rebuilt Ark, set up with a zoo and visitor center, and has it towed up and down the Mediterranean's eastern coast.
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>>450403
># Get a foster family and specify its characteristics.
all consist of our agents. lets get an actual caring father capable of wrestling the boy. a mother, not a helicopter mom, preferably one with a strong sense of reason and justice. their "pet Heavy MEC", should give the angel an idea of responsibility. now lets just hope we don't have a new sitcom.

let Zak monitor as much and as reasonable as possible.
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>>450432

Given the pervasive monitoring that this will require, for the surrounding people's safety if nothing else, you probably could make a sitcom out of it.

You have 21 cabals total; 16 are available.

You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets.

Tsion Ben-Judah has done a surprisingly small amount of gloating after the TOL attack. Ely LeVey has moved back to Central Africa.

TOL have spun the attack as an unofficial act of bravery and remind you that you promised to share some technical data.

Bahira's blog is back; she is (allegedly) working at a Children of the Tribulation senior daycare within Greater Jerusalem, and her focus has shiftd towards that and discussing family issues.

Allocate your cabals and Villains (rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LeftBeyond.QuestRules )

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.

Complexity 0

# Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.

# Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: Civil defense forces (1 turn).

Complexity 1

# Permanently station a cabal to defend an installation. This removes them from the roster, but allows them to become familiar with the territory, set up static defenses, and so on, raising their effectiveness.

# Foster pagan worship, improve morale, or both. After the rush of winning the revolution, morale could use a boost. Pagan worship is widespread.

# Harass/sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Perform a covert operation.

Complexity 2

# Produce MECs at any base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick)

# Produce a station part at any base. The station will have to be rebuilt (0/8).

# Work your Misrayim or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity there.

# Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (3/5)

# Seed super-grain or super-weed in a territory, with extra rain if warranted.

Complexity 3

# Prepare and spring another Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.

Complexity 4

# Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.

# Begin building a base in the Middle East, South Africa, or American Heartland.

Complexity 5

# Let Jeb and Valentina finish their research project. This MUST be done in tandem with a launch, as it will need to be tested in space.

# Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.

# Take over a TOL base by force.
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>>450471
>TOL have spun the attack as an unofficial act of bravery and remind you that you promised to share some technical data

yeah, send them the data on the attack, what we learned, new research goals of either identifying or killing the glorified, and the data of how we killed bahria the first time.

"honestly, we are still trying to figure out how she pulled of the resurrection. our best current guess is glorified can mimic turbojesus's routine."

># Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: Civil defense forces (1 turn).
lets push for the space program and all the benefits it brings to the country. Damien supports.

># Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.
Drones again.

># Produce MECs at any base.
all available bases. 2 cabals

># Let Jeb and Valentina finish their research project. This MUST be done in tandem with a launch, as it will need to be tested in space.
># Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.
that's 8 cabals total and Jeb and Kat on it. he said he wanted her help.

># Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.
Sonics with Zak. 4 cabals. lets try and recreate the frequency that killed Bahria and Ithuriel.

># Use the Australia base, or Night City, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5) (3/5)
lets start taking over East Europe, and make it loud so that the jerusalem gov looks away from Misrayim.
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Rolled 16, 23, 13 = 52 (3d100)

>>450546

You give TOL your surveillance data for the MF attack, plus what you know about fighting Glorifieds and Angels. You note that Bahira hasn't been seen outside of Greater Jerusalem since she showed up again, and that you did check and her bones were still where you left them.

Production of drones and MECs continues apace; by now it's routine work. The experience gained with automating the production facilities will undoubtedly pay off in an eventual space colonization effort.

An outright takeover of Eastern Europe from Night City is risky, but possible; you can try this year or wait for next year. The plan is simple: use Night City as a staging area to move a small mechanized army towards Krakow, and see if people of that territory follow. In a sense, it's a small-scale test of the TOL plan. The difference is that such an uprising would of course fail without popular support; you've been building towards enough of that. An alternative would be to declare Night City and its surrounding farmland independent; there could be a siege, but you would have a distinct advantage since the area around Night City can be turned into a minefield from below.

Zak keeps working on the medium wubbers; his focus is to be able to do in the field what you can already do in a controlled environment. He laments not focusing on larger systems, but agrees that they would be tactically immobile.

A bit of media manipulation gets the space ball rolling again; the Timbuktu launch complex is formally donated to the government from one of your front societies, and restored in record time. Valentina takes one of her people to rebuild the "ice fishing" station system; once there, she unveils what she, Kat and Jeb have been working on.

The rocket is small, unimpressive, and cost you your entire supply of plutonium carbide. Val explains that this is a fission-fragment rocket. "The exhaust is accelerated to approximately five percent of light speed, giving us an ISP of approximately 50 thousand. For comparison, a chemical rocket is 4 to 5 hundred. This little guy can pretty much ignore orbital mechanics, point itself as a planet, and get there by homing. Or, it can shave weeks off a round trip for a conventional spacecraft, even a large one. The best part? With this much specific impulse, we don't have to plan a trajectory in advance."
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>>450644
# Send it on an escape trajectory from the Sun, with an archive of what your civilization has accomplished, and a warning to other races about Yahweh. This would require no further supervision and provide useful testing data as well as being a propaganda hit.

# Send it to Deimos, the moon of Mars, to retrieve a sample. This would take 1 year. The low thrust despite the high ISP prevents landing on a larger moon. Useful data about the Martian local space, and it would mean exceeding the pre-Rapture space program for the first time.

# Put a tungsten tip on it and send it on a bielliptic transfer orbit to get a gravity assist from the Sun and hit the Earth at relativistic speeds and good precision. The shockwave has a chance in four of being enough to smash the canopy, and the kinetic impactor has a chance in four of cracking the roof of the Temple in two, if it can be made to hit by installing transmitters. This would take 3 years. Crap shoot, but...

Either way, you have a canopy station again! The people's interest in the new endeavors restores some optimism to Misrayim.

Your teams have, a couple years ago (OOC: this is me derping, I forgot) re-rigged Ziggy's tectonic explosives; you can make an effort to get the Nile to flow again.

# Do it.

# Not yet.
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>>450650
>Your teams have, a couple years ago (OOC: this is me derping, I forgot) re-rigged Ziggy's tectonic explosives; you can make an effort to get the Nile to flow again.
I forgot about it too. lol.

># Not yet.
I want to save it for when another territory will need the diversion.

>An alternative would be to declare Night City and its surrounding farmland independent; there could be a siege, but you would have a distinct advantage since the area around Night City can be turned into a minefield from below.
lets go with this plan.


># Send it to Deimos, the moon of Mars, to retrieve a sample. This would take 1 year. The low thrust despite the high ISP prevents landing on a larger moon. Useful data about the Martian local space, and it would mean exceeding the pre-Rapture space program for the first time.
we can always send a second rocket to warn the cosmos about YHVH's Tyranny.
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I have a funny little mental image, Urist and the Night City Children wielding stun batons that look like axes with wubbers at the top.
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>450663

You expect the sample return capsule to be back by +959; you'll likely have to send someone to retrieve it.

TOL have begun constructing a staging area in the Middle East.

Ely LeVey has announced with great surety that the Nile will not flow again until Egypt repents.

The Millennium Force is combing the Middle East desert for TOL's base which, in fact, has just started being constructed.

# Give them an anonymous tip.

# Give them the runaround by means of an anonymous fake tip.

# Let those two fight each other.
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>>450715

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzeeV_Dl9gw
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>>450722
># Give them the runaround by means of an anonymous fake tip.

advise TOL of Logistics Routes they can take to avoid the sweeping MFer's (good gods, that name works on so many levels.)

>>450725
YES! WIN! lol.
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>>450735

You allow The Only Light to use your Sky Eyes in the Middle East to detect incoming Millennium Force patrols; the MFers pray for guidance, receive it, and zero in on where TOL convoys were just minutes before. If this shakes their faith, they don't show it; TOL manages to keep building their staging area.

You have 21 cabals total; 16 are available.

You are actively tracking enemy teams where you have assets.

Allocate your cabals and Villains (rules: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LeftBeyond.QuestRules )

Variable complexity:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or government installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, incidentally making sure that you control more of it.

Complexity 0

# Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.

# Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: Civil defense (1), space program (1).

# Allow the Cosmists to use the launch ramp, or ask them to focus on astronomy.

Complexity 1

# Blow the Lake Victoria canals.

# Permanently station a cabal to defend an installation. This removes them from the roster, but allows them to become familiar with the territory, set up static defenses, and so on, raising their effectiveness.

# Foster pagan worship, improve morale, or both. There is little need at this time.

# Harass/sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Perform a covert or survey operation.

Complexity 2

# Produce MECs at any base.

# Produce drones at any base. Current focus: Medium-sized land drones. Current army size is marked on the bottom of the map. (Each will give you 1/3rd of a tick)

# Produce a station part at any base. The station has been started again. (2/8)

# Work your Misrayim or Pacifica base overtime to improve prosperity there.

# Use the Australia base, to start bringing the territory under your control (1/5)

# Declare Night City to be independent.

# Seed super-grain or super-weed in a territory, with extra rain if warranted.

Complexity 3

# Prepare and spring another Angel trap by kidnapping a Hero or a Glorified. 3, 4 or 5 cabals can be used for this.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.

Complexity 4

# Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.

# Begin building a base in the Middle East, South Africa, or American Heartland.

Complexity 5

# Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.

# Take over a TOL base by force.
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>>450750
># Declare Night City to be independent.
THE DWARVES ARE FREE! 2 cabals, and can we make Urist a villain? I'm sending Damien because she's a damn good general with that drone fleet.

># Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.
3 cabals Jeb.

># Produce a station part at any base. The station has been started again. (2/8)
2 cabals 2 bases.

># Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.
5 cabals. Damien, preferably around Pacifica.

># Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.
more drones.

># Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: Civil defense (1), space program (1).
leave as is. how's the economy doing?

># Allow the Cosmists to use the launch ramp, or ask them to focus on astronomy.
go ham Cosmists.

># Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.
Kat and Zak. 4 cabals.

how are our captives? all three of the living ones?
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>>450776
just realized, I wanted to put weaver recruiting in Pacifica. I added Damien twice, my bad.
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Any reason you called this one Anxiety edition? Just wanted to ask before I pass out.
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Not today?
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>>450776

># Finish the takeover work in Eastern Europe.
2 Cabals, Damien. Bring it to 5/5 if it isn't. If it is, then we can try a popular support takeover.


># Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.
Drones.


># Allow the Cosmists to use the launch ramp, or ask them to focus on astronomy.
Go ham Cosmists.


># Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.
3 cabals Jeb.


># Give a general direction to the Misrayim government, this will give a significant boost to the relevant program (treat it as a super-cabal). Current direction: >Civil defense (1), space program (1).
Leave as is, just focus on space and civil defence.


>#Contact TOL
Give them everything we have on knocking out glorified and pepperspray. Give them the data on 3 degrees of separation drones and a couple of the prototype machinegun drones. Tell them that we need these tested on glorified somehow, and we're wondering if it might be possible to do the same thing with weapons to make them effective against glorified.

And give them a little help with their wubbing tanks. I'd like for those to not be useless. We all need to battle test our gear anyway.


># Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.
Nuclear. Kat and Zak. 4 cabals.

Anti didn't actually specify a research here, so.


># Produce a station part at any base. The station has been started again. (2/8)
2 cabals 2 bases.


># Recruit. This has gotten considerably harder across the board.
5 cabals. Around Pacifica. Weaver.
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>>453249
># Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research
I wanted nuclear.

>#Contact TOL
Give them everything we have on knocking out glorified and pepperspray. Give them the data on 3 degrees of separation drones and a couple of the prototype machinegun drones. Tell them that we need these tested on glorified somehow, and we're wondering if it might be possible to do the same thing with weapons to make them effective against glorified.

And give them a little help with their wubbing tanks. I'd like for those to not be useless. We all need to battle test our gear anyway.

I would like them to return the favor we have givin first to show this is cooperative, not us just giving them shit.
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>>453531
>I would like them to return the favor we have givin first to show this is cooperative, not us just giving them shit.

Cut the tanks then. We can do that later.
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>>453612
Think we can get the disciples of Hephaestus to work on examining the metal next turn. If not I have another idea to further NC.
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I am not back! Sorta. Don't count on me.

Damn, friends. Damn.

Good work, and condolences. I surely was hoping it was a 'Hero' that would die, instead of a hero, in that one quest recap.

The loss of Bahira stings, in its way; her breed of Glorified is much more palatable than the traitor-rabbi's.

I'm surprised GJ didn't try to make a big splash with Stepola's death. Whatever happened to our lawyer walking to Jerusalem?

We'll have to be more aggressive with the Emissary. I think I'm seeing a pattern in the Narrative regarding the Glorified, namely that Tribulation-level Glorified (and their followers) are superdicks. Whereas the Glorified who were magically-aged (Raymie, Bahira, other Raptured kids) or the Ancient Revived are... probably not.

What prison of lies and the Narrative is Jesus twisted into, I wonder? And what could be done if we could get him out?

An Angel 'falls' if it fails. Because by 'definition' they cannot fall? The Glorified are not Angels, but I wonder if any failure would be great enough to push them?

Noah requires observation. Right now he's the most accessible Revived Ancient in the world.
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>>457118
To expound on superdickery:

The Tribulation-era Glorified are the scum of Creation mostly because their essence is born whole cloth from their terrible, terrible books. They are representatives, disciples, and avatars of their sickness.

But the Raptured Glorified, like Raymie and Bahira, are much more innocent-acting, because they are assigned the role of innocents by the Narrative that has spawned this reality. And the Ancient Revived, at least most of them, are sort of untouched by the foulness of the Narrative, because quite frankly they were never its focus. But so in turn they are herded by the scum-Glorified and their false prophets, all for the anti-Christ horrorgod spawned and beloved by the Left Behind books and their mad followers.

There's room in the Story, there, I think.
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>>457118
>Whatever happened to our lawyer walking to Jerusalem?

I'm assuming shot and killed. As MECs were considered demons.


>We'll have to be more aggressive with the Emissary. I think I'm seeing a pattern in the Narrative regarding the Glorified, namely that Tribulation-level Glorified (and their followers) are superdicks. Whereas the Glorified who were magically-aged (Raymie, Bahira, other Raptured kids) or the Ancient Revived are... probably not.

I'm considering the pros and cons of turning Leviticus into an argument over the legality of rape next time we send the emissary, should throw all of new Jerusalem for a massive loop, no easy way out if that one, and you can't shout down a machine.

Also I'm thinking of MECing a moderate glorified next chance we get. Someone who can be convinced of Tyrants mind fuckery.

>>457131
Brilliant. Wish you could be here to stay.
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something I want to do to test NC, we need to measure the empowering effect of worship. back in the earlier threads some of our sysadmins were going to start worshiping us after the success of MEC tech, maybe they would still be inclined to do so sincearly as part of an experiment.

If they do, I want to see if its possible to communicate with these strange outsider old gods, like Hephestus or Triple G. after that, we can try communicating with one or two of our damned agents. we have a choice of Ziggy, Vee, and Quinn if I'm not mistaken. Styre, Thursday, and wednesday as well. but id like to go with someone we can trust.

finally while all this goes on, we can try creating a device to "direct lightning that strikes a blaspheming MEC agent in the direction its glove is pointing." have people who don't know how the Device would function but can build it make it and test it and so long as they don't try to learn 'why' it works it should work.

thoughts?
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I think we hit the sage limit. Did we?
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>>459364
>>457430

Sure.
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Also,

> The device has been wrecked by micrometeorites, but is still broadcasting its diagnostics off the one antenna it has left; interestingly, its orbital decay is consistent with only a century having elapsed, rather than nine and a half.

#Order the space program to develop a test launch that could measure time discrepancy between the surface and the rest of the solar system. Beyond the usual, anyway.

If that actually works at 10:1...
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Also, we should get the heat off Misrayim. We should probably fire up the transmitter and jammer soon. Try to turn Australia into a fight.
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Actually, when is the Misrayim space program expected to pick up? I need breakfast but I'll type something up after that. I think we should replan the turn before Spirit is back, Anti.
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>>460336
I'm going to be busy till the afternoon, And yes its time to jam the radio.
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>>460343
And I'm back early.
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>>460553

My thinking right now is that we're looking at threats of the curse of Ham. Keep working on national defence and test the time dilation stuff in orbit.

We should activate the jammer and consider working on some NC stuff. Finish taking over eastern Europe to 5/5 and, do you know when the focus on space in Misrayim will allow for that triple manpower bonus?


I'll draw up a new post for vote, I guess.
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>>460584
I think it's on effect now. Maybe wait till the end of this turn? We're already liberating east Europe.
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>>450750

>#Contact TOL
Give them everything we have on knocking out glorified and pepperspray. Give them the data on 3 degrees of separation drones and a couple of the prototype machinegun drones. Tell them that we need these tested on glorified somehow, and we're wondering if it might be possible to do the same thing with weapons to make them effective against glorified.


># Allow the Cosmists to use the launch ramp, or ask them to focus on astronomy.
See if they can look into the time dilation weirdness with the pre-rapture satellites. Go ham Cosmists.

># Activate the transmitter and send the packet, then start jamming.
1 heavy cabal with controllers and 2 drone teams. Damien.


># Produce things in the Greenland base: MEC parts, drones, or canopy station parts.
Drones.


># Use a launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch if you have also built a station part.
3 Cabals, Misrayim. Jeb. See if they can look into the time-weirdness.


># Finish takeover work in Eastern Europe to bring it to 5/5
2 Cabals. Weaver. Soft takeover.
My plan here, Anti, is to set up the legal soft-takeover, then allow night city to have its own set of largely independent and liberal laws under small government clauses.


># Continue AI, nuclear or sonic research.
4 cabals, nuclear, Kat.


># Produce MECs at any base.
2 Cabals, anywhere idle.


># Produce a station part at any base. The station has been started again. (2/8)
2 Cabals, Misrayim.


># Permanently station a cabal to defend an installation. This removes them from the roster, but allows them to become familiar with the territory, set up static defenses, and so on, raising their effectiveness.
1 Cabal, The Misrayim launch facility.


># Lay some groundwork for pocket dimension stuff. See if any of the information we have on them can be turned into results of some kind.
1 Cabal, Zak.


>We're already liberating east Europe.

This is a better way to do it.
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>>460593

This is better because it probably achieves much the same thing you want in Eastern Europe only with less risk. If it doesn't work out we can still just declare independence while having said that we tried democracy first.


It keeps space moving (which might be really important if things turn out to be 10:1) and hopefully draws some heat off of Misrayim with the transmitter.


It hopefully gets us the reactors we need.

Does a little work towards recruiting in a more manageable chunk for the year.

Ensures the launch platform is safe this time since we still haven't built anymore platforms. At this point I'm inclined to just protect this one rather than rotate since we didn't get around to a pacifica platofrm.

Gets us a new group of drones with the last tick.

Keeps our promises to TOL and hopefully has them do some more testing for us.
I think it's just a better plan all around. I'd like to open the canal next year, depending on what happens in Eastern Europe or Australia. I want the heat off of us when we do it.
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>>460637
1.
># Lay some groundwork for pocket dimension stuff. See if any of the information we have on them can be turned into results of some kind.

Where did this come from?

2.
>#Contact TOL
Give them everything we have on knocking out glorified and pepperspray. Give them the data on 3 degrees of separation drones and a couple of the prototype machinegun drones. Tell them that we need these tested on glorified somehow, and we're wondering if it might be possible to do the same thing with weapons to make them effective against glorified.

Give them to much to soon and we appear week to them and they go back to trying to act as our superiors and put restrictions on our group, this time by way of machine guns.

3.
># Activate the transmitter and send the packet, then start jamming.
1 heavy cabal with controllers and 2 drone teams. Damien.

We need Damien to participate in the rebellion.

># Finish takeover work in Eastern Europe to bring it to 5/5
2 Cabals. Weaver. Soft takeover.
My plan here, Anti, is to set up the legal soft-takeover, then allow night city to have its own set of largely independent and liberal laws under small government clauses.

Problem with this is if we create an independent state not under our direct control, they take it back by force. And your method would result in a soft takeover like in Pacifica. We are trying to go full revolution because it allows us more recruits and more work faster. Which we really need.
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(sorry, a few immigration woes on this end, also, writing a bit of a "state of the world" page on the wiki)
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>>460705
Oh. Sorry to hear. I think we're going to be a while anyways, take your time and good luck getting that all sorted out.
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>>460700
>Where did this come from?

The care package we got from Jenny. You had an interest in trying some of that stuff, and we had a leftover cabal to spend.


>Give them to much to soon and we appear week to them and they go back to trying to act as our superiors and put restrictions on our group, this time by way of machine guns.

We literally promised them information for an attack. If we don't follow through, well, this is EXACTLY how we got on such bad terms to begin with. You took the chip out of that weapon. The drones are things we're basically just giving to law enforcement; I'm hoping that they'll test them for us since this is a joint venture. They're undertaking an operation for us and we're supplying the drones. It's a partnership.

>We need Damien to participate in the rebellion.

Well, I'm rather hoping there won't be a need for a rebellion this turn. We can finish takeover work, do a soft electoral takeover through small government, then just adjust local laws around nightcity as we see fit. As far as I can tell, there's not much of any benefit to actually just declaring ourselves independent without attempting this first.


>Problem with this is if we create an independent state not under our direct control, they take it back by force. And your method would result in a soft takeover like in Pacifica. We are trying to go full revolution because it allows us more recruits and more work faster. Which we really need.

Right, and we can still do that. We DO control nightcity, and we could just operate as our own state within a state. We can attempt to import population and grow it into a nation within a state. If they try to take it over, you get exactly what you want (a fight) but we have casus belli too, so we clearly come off as the good guys in that scenario.

It's basically a xanatos gambit of the original plan. If it works, we can eventually just do a total takeover of the region around nightcity until they pick a fight, at which point we can do a complete takeover. If it doesn't work, they'll pick a fight and we can do a complete takeover without appearing to be the aggressors.

What's not to love?


> (sorry, a few immigration woes on this end, also, writing a bit of a "state of the world" page on the wiki)

No problem, goodluck. Gave me time to rethink my options. I prefer the new plan.
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>>460700
>>460627
>>460723


By data on the drones, I mean how they work and the way in which things produced like this don't cause techs to burst into flames.

I don't mean telling them exactly how to build them to start with.
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>>460718

If you want, we could pull the 1 cabal off NC and onto network infrastructure. That'd be cool too.
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>>460723
Right. That's where this

"If they do, I want to see if its possible to communicate with these strange outsider old gods, like Hephestus or Triple G"

Came from. With a prerequisite of getting worship as a fuel for contact with tripocolypse.

On TOL. Alright. Give them an idea of how it works. Like the law of three degrees. Maybe convince them to start automating production facilities.


>Well, I'm rather hoping there won't be a need for a rebellion this turn. We can finish takeover work, do a soft electoral takeover through small government, then just adjust local laws around nightcity as we see fit. As far as I can tell, there's not much of any benefit to actually just declaring ourselves independent without attempting this first.

Alright. I was hoping if they attacked us we could March up and annex the surface.

>>460739
Anything else we can put it on? Night city to make sure it stays safe?
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>>460749
>Alright. I was hoping if they attacked us we could March up and annex the surface.

My issue is that we'd probably win the battle but struggle to hold the territory.

Like, if two dozen glorified marched on Misrayim right now, we'd have a big fucking problem. We need to figure out how to deal with them. Next year I want to kidnap one.

>Anything else we can put it on? Night city to make sure it stays safe?

It's already fortified underground with fixed emplacements on the entrances and drones stationed inside. I think it should be okay against most of the conventional stuff a cabal could deal with anyway.

What was the survey in South Africa? We could grab that maybe?
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>>460772
We could always use it to reboost moral. Thats still taken a bit of a hit.
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>>450750

>Foster pagan worship, improve morale, or both. There is little need at this time.

Little need, apparently.
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>>460785
Got an idea. We should have them make statues dedicated to our fallen agents, with names of the more common dead etched in stone.

I think the reason great will got pissed at us for that last time for this was because it would count as worship and empower the damned. Allowing the beginnings of a way for them to free themselves.
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>>460804
>I think the reason great will got pissed at us for that last time for this was because it would count as worship and empower the damned. Allowing the beginnings of a way for them to free themselves.

Maybe? We could take something like that and fuse it with the old temple we built. If we wanted, we could rebuild that temple and set up a bunch of glorified sedation traps this time...

If you wanted to get back at Tsion, that'd be the way.
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>>460833
Yeah. Rebuild it if the people will let us, I kinda dont want to because I'm sure it will bring down a smiting, even though Tsion promised a military invasion.
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>>460847

How do you feel about setting them on permanent defence somewhere else in Misrayim? Could you stomach committing two cabals to something like that?
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>>460847

Maybe setting them to permanently train the national guard in what we've learned?
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>>460859
Nah
>>460862
And we ARE the government. That should be exactly what we train the national guard in. Cabal or no cabal.
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>>460880
>And we ARE the government. That should be exactly what we train the national guard in. Cabal or no cabal.

Having people who actually have experience with the subject matter train the officers will be a lot more effective than just tossing them a handbook. This has been proved empirically and historically throughout all the world's armies.
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>>460883
Fair point. ARE we already doing that though? That's my question.
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what do you think the state of the world is? a large number of people cowering at the "impending war" or the non-believing arguing the merits of fighting back while the believing try to force people back to the submissive state of 58 years ago?

apologies to the QM, I like to speculate needlessly while I wait.
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>>460970
Thing is, this is all somewhat expected. A lot of what we can do is try to do the expected unexpectedly.

It's too bad we don't know where Raymond Steele is; I didn't *think* he was in the Temple, but he might be by now.

You know, I'm an idiot. It occurs to me that there are airplanes going to seed out there, and we have drones. I'm not sure it's possible to take real advantage, but who wants to probe the Temple's defenses with a throwaway attack? And deal with the inevitable backlash against automatons, of course.
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>>461195
>with a throwaway
hmn, I have a couple ideas. and my dear friend false flag hasn't seen action since we took over Ozase with the "brotherhood of Nod" as our scapegoat.
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On another thought, it will most likely be a small-scale redux of Russia and Ethiopia's attack on Israel a thousand years ago or so.

You know, if you want to draw Tsion anywhere, have him be condemned and issued a warrant of arrest by a local/territorial government. His ego probably can't handle it.

I nominate Noah for the next Glorified kidnapping, if the jammer doesn't go to plan.
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>>461207

> hmn, I have a couple ideas. and my dear friend false flag hasn't seen action since we took over Ozase with the "brotherhood of Nod" as our scapegoat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXhiV43AgLE
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>>461195
>You know, I'm an idiot.
no your not.

>>461210
here's my proof of that. I agree with you on Noah. if there is a government that can condemn him, I would nominate Pacifica.

but first, we must have east Europe rebel.

>>461224
XD thank you QM.
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>>461195
>You know, I'm an idiot. It occurs to me that there are airplanes going to seed out there, and we have drones. I'm not sure it's possible to take real advantage, but who wants to probe the Temple's defenses with a throwaway attack? And deal with the inevitable backlash against automatons, of course.

I'd like to try once we have a way to hurt glorified.
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>>450296
>>461224
I think our QM is addicted to that song as well as C&C tributes.
>>461242
we know Bahria wasn't immune to brain freeze. and Ithuriel got dick punched by our drone. I guess we could test drone mounted Neutron emitters as well as other weapons controlled by a rule of three degree's drone.
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>>461248
also brown note from a drone on Noah, and then make a joke about dumping scat off the ark.
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if this quest series had a second name it would be "The QM can't catch a break". honestly, wish there was something we could do.
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confirming current plan.

Finish research projects and get people off earth, finish narrative causality, hopefully ending in a portal to hell to get all our agents, a massive army supplemented by demons, and a massively worship empowered devil who we will pretty much at gunpoint if we have to convince to assist the humans in the attack supporting from the shadows as to not cause direct divine intervention and a game over, and finish preparations for the final attack which will hopefully include drones that look more like planetside MAX's without the human pilot.

short term, test how worship affects us and a human or MEC operative, capture a glorified once sonics and nuclear are finished, and launch a drone attack once AI is finished under a false flag.
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>>463481
How do you guys feel about digging a collapsible area under or around turbojesus's building through tunneling drones, then flood it with wubbers so we can safely drop TJ inside and carry out the assault above ground?
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>>465554

Probably worth trying with the scythe. If we actually get on good terms with TOL, we could ask to dig from their base in the region.
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>>465949
Id rather dig our own hole. Im not too sure they would be fine with us moving containment through their base after.
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>>466220

I'm not sure we can afford to build a base there. That's a lot of work and we're already overtaxed.
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>>466721
Nah. No base. Just tag and move TJ through our own tunnel. We can have it lead to misrayim or night city through a quarry.
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~crickets~

Sara? De la? .. geist?
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>>471305
>>471305
Sorry Anti, I'm really only around in the barest sense.

Hope Geist is okay. Sarasti too, but Geist is the one with the most hiccups right now, it feels like.
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>>474812
*Sigh* yeah. Just hope things are fine for all parties. Or at least manageable.

Thank for following as much as ya can. :)
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I have a new idea for some real results on NC, do you guys remember the Milgram experiment?



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