>>1091325


TLDR recap:

> This is based on the Left Behind book series, particularly the last book in the series.
> You're the bad guy. You're trying to defeat both God and Satan, so that the Earth may continue to exist.
> You are an AI; you cannot normally intervene in the world directly, but you have two and a half countries under your control, as well as a varied crew of villains, a cadre of cyborg agents, and an army of drone tanks.
> Each turn takes one year. You must allocate your rank-and-file, lieutenants, and resources.
> The other two factions are a lot stronger than you: be clever, build your strength locally, and go from beneath notice to beyond revenge in a single stroke.
> Win conditions: Defeat God in the Last Battle, prevent the battle from happening through subversion, or get enough people off the planet to continue the species.
> Lose conditions: The Last Battle will happen in the waning days of the 1000th year after the Glorious Appearing. God is fated to win it.

>>1091074

Thanks! There are 3 possible plans though, confirm going with that one?

You have 25 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 22 are available.

You establish a civilian and a military research grant for general improvements on your infrastructure; these will improve successful outcomes for nonviolent and violent actions respectively. Your aerospace program is a civilian one.

At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.

You are not tracking enemy teams.

Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.

* Near-space relays (PNR)

* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

* Mining complex to Luna

* Manned mission to Luna

* Mining probe to asteroids

* Arkship construction

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.

# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal.

>>1091325
Morning. I can probably do one before I go to work, long day ahead of me.
>>1091331

># Send a cabal to the canopy station for canopy drop shock trooper training.
1 cabal.

>Build two Ark parts.
Four Cabals.

># Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.
Start producing the silencer drones we used on the angel.


># Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.
Two Cabals. Jeb.

># Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.
A containment chamber we can throw TJ in. Five Cabals. Zak.

>Recruit martial artist to be trained as ground anti angel infantry.
5 cabals. Ithuriel.

>Produce neutralizing gas that can be used against the Glorified in the opening attack on NJ.
Two bases and four cabals. Kat.

>Jam transmission in east Europe.
2 Cabals. East Europe. Damien.

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>>1091418
>>1080538
>>1080540

At the beginning of the year, your sysadmins integrate the various plan proposals, and give immediate green light to those that have reached a 66.6% node consensus. (OOC: These are the proposals I got, if something was proposed by 2 people, it's getting done)

* 5 cabals and Ithuriel will attempt to recruit, specifically among disaffected Europeans, with a focus on finding martial artists.

* 2 cabals will prepare a third, and final, lunar launch under Jeb's direction.

* 4 cabals will incentivize production of aerospace parts, with an eye towards using them for the Arkship.

* 11 cabals remain available.

Most of your workers want to boost military assets, but are unsure in which direction to proceed; as it is, Monday sends a brief message of thanks after noting that your people have finally decided to contribute to the great work. Your psychologists note that military fervor is increasing within your population, with the Bedouin and Pharaonic revivalists shifting their subculture in that sense. One positive thing is that this will greatly help Roman revivalism; one negative thing is that your more liberal citizens begin to worry about civil liberties. Drawing from Brotherhood of Nod false-flag uniforms, someone sends in a proposal for a color scheme.

(cont)

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>>1091483

The launch vector is, unsurprisingly, named after Valentina; Jeb sets to the task with a grimness that is uncommon to him, even knowing that Val had the choice to use a MEC implant and didn't. The third piece of the lunar mining system includes a pair of robotic harvester rovers, one to bring regolith to the lunar refinery, and one to bring nuclear fuel pellets to the canopy station. The system is not as efficient as it could be, but has the advantage of requiring no personnel on the lunar side, which would be difficult to supply with life support.

Having a lunar rover allows for better site survey, more interesting pictures, and

# after the extraction system is proven effective, the rover is remotely piloted off on a tangent by Jeb, to visit the closest pre-Tribulation lunar landing and bring back photo evidence that the lunar landing happened.

# the gentle "bulldozing" of a landing area should a manned attempt ever happen, something which Jeb is obviously lobbying for.

Using their own resources, most of the Cosmists have moved to the canopy station, which is now effectively a busy small town with a triple-digit population.

Back on Earth, Misrayim's factories work at capacity producing aerospace rated components to be used in further orbital endeavors. They indicate that TOL is beginning to inquire about hiring machinists, engineers and managers with aerospace experience.

The new spate of picture from the Moon raises no Temple reaction other than a pithy reminder that those who wish to follow heavenly affairs should, in the Millennium, look towards New Jerusalem, not upward.

Starting from the base in Rome, and from Rome itself (which is a long way from being restored to its Imperial glory, although a visitor there would find an attempt to rebuild the seven hills by spade and bulldozer and a number of ruined Italian-era buildings removed to expose Classic Imperial foundations to be rebuilt) your recruiters swarm over Western Europe, heading to thorn-infested areas and talking to disaffected youths there.

Having being raised in a culture that emphasizes self-reliance, quite a lot of Europe's latest (and possibly last) generation has dealt with the region's low agricultural output by throwing themselves at other pursuits, somewhat in defiance of the pastoralization policy, or simply moping. Perhaps owing to the territory's Mediterranean heritage, pankration and wrestling are two of the other pursuits.

Your teams organize a series of roving amateur wrestling competitions to rustle up local talent; the local talent which is seen to have developed the appropriate fighting style is made to compete in endurance matches, and those who also display the attitude you want towards Yahweh are finally given Ithuriel to fight as a sort of final boss, in matches

# which you keep carefully secret.

# which you broadcast on PPV.

The rescued Angel enjoys the challenge immensely: fair fights are pretty much what he lives for. Your physiologists note that Ithuriel himself is a noticeably less efficient fighter than he was under Yahweh's yoke, but retains some of his abilities, still being able to emit a "trumpet blast" (albeit weaker than even Arariel's) and still being able to make himself less noticeable through body language and positioning, although he cannot flat out turn invisible. Eventually, you end up with a number of trained fighters who are of proven loyalty and are an even match with Ithuriel in a one-on-one wrestling match.

In the same territory, Chaim Rozenweig has been touring the land, organizing work brigades to systematically remove the super-thorns, with considerable success; your recruiters are instructed to

# steer clear, even though the work brigades drain the talent pool somewhat.

# initiate a direct confrontation, pitentially putting the new recruits in danger.

# somehow use Ithuriel's presence to troll the Glorified botanist.

>>1091331

11 cabals remain available.

One somewhat interesting thing is that none of the Night City children, the oldest of which are starting to enter the workforce by taking their maturity exams early, have expressed interest in working with you other than assisting in the digging projects; Urist has been observed making blog posts to the tune of "The dwarfs are for the dwarfs". While they proved to be excellent mining workers, they invariably expressed some distaste at being out in the open air, indicating that they consider the amplified sunlight and moonlight unnatural.

Your Hell nodes have been broadcasting their message for more than a year, with little variation and, so far, with no indicative result - human analysis will be necessary.

Ely LeVey has been touring Pacifica, and settled in the Bay Area for a few weeks so far; in addition to her radio program, she has been writing opinion columns on the territory, finding it extremely confusing how the nominally loyalist government allows wanton perversion and disbelief under the aegis of "small government" and "freedom of conscience. She is worried that the place will turn into another Misrayim. Her last article is a comparison between the believing village of El Cerrito and the secular village of Sausalito.

# Read it.

# Ignore.

Pacifica is, as it is, still doing fairly well... except that, possibly thanks to Ely's lobbying, the nominal government seems to have grown a spine; at some point, they decide that mass-media laws apply to the regional data network. Anyone who outputs data onto the network, so much as posting on a forum or answering an email, would have to do the paperwork necessary to become a radio broadcaster or to publish a newspaper.

As it is, there is a grace period, and you don't have to deal with it this year, but even though a loophole is found, this would bode ill for the Pacifican way of life.

>>1091518

# after the extraction system is proven effective, the rover is remotely piloted off on a tangent by Jeb, to visit the closest pre-Tribulation lunar landing and bring back photo evidence that the lunar landing happened.

# which you keep carefully secret.

# somehow use Ithuriel's presence to troll the Glorified botanist.
If we can do this is there a way we can keep Ithuriel from directly talking to the man?

>>1091560
Have someone read it and give us the abridged version. I don't want more conversion.

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Rolled 89, 22 = 111 (2d100)

>>1091568

Jeb and Cordylon pilot the rover towards the nearest old lunar landing site, that of Apollo 15; they hope to find the exact location of the lunar retroreflector experiment, and use the harvester's arms to clean it of the regolith that has deposited on it, in addition to taking pictures of a pre-Rapture lunar landing.

Ithuriel is given a vaguely Roman-inspired suit of armor and filmed flexing, flying (which he can only do because the armor is a cosplay piece, it's made of foam, although it IS his remaining sword in the films), helping a crew erect a wireless network repeater mast in a reenacment of the famous Iwo Jima flag photo, and generally being visibly on the side of Omega. Since this timeline never developed photorealistic CGI, the footage only has to be visibly not a product of practical effects to be believable.

Chaim Rozenweig is allowed to find video cassette of what is claimed to be a TOL propaganda video, and has to waste some of his time trying his best to debunk it instead of coordinating work teams to remove the superthorns.

>>1091573

Ely decries the poverty of Sausalito's denizens, forced to live in small houseboats in the bay, and compares it to the prosperity of El Cerrito's people, who live in proper 20th century American style houses. She describes the barter-based economy of the former and compares it to the mediated cash economy of the latter, and adds that the people of Sausalito told her some nonsense about "whuffie" and "reputation currency" as a poor attempt to mask the fact that they are reduced to barter. Magnanimously, she notes that the people of Sausalito display basic virtues such as kindness and charity, although in a very chaotic way. Her opinion piece ends with the uplifting story of a young lady moving back in with her family from Sausalito to El Cerrito after converting; your demographic survey shows that the population of the two villages has overall increased by 9 and decreased by 4 total in total. Ely mentions this fact in passing. Overall it's a pretty basic hit piece.

>>1091592

The remote controlled harvester finds the Apollo 15 retroreflector and carefully cleans the prisms on it from the patina of regolith that had electrostatically accumulated on it; the retroreflectors are still usable, and a laser beam is shot from Cordylon Station to the Apollo 15 site.

The rest of the equipment is obviously long dead, but you settle once and for all the matter of the reality of the moon landings. One thing you note is that the American flag at the location, along with every other piece of plastic, has been bleached white by the solar wind: the only writing you are able to recover are the plaques left by the astronauts, since those are engraved. The rover is able to return to work afterwards with barely any interruption in productivity; the Cosmists use the retroreflector to reacquire a precise measurement of lunar distance. It seems that the Moon is somewhat closer to the Earth than pre-Appearing predictions would have indicated.

During the operation, one other Cosmist dies, right on time (100 years); the sect considers reverting their stance on metabolic extension controlers. It looks like next year the crew of Cordylon Station will experience the first human baby born in space.

Unfortunately, the trolling operation against Chaim Rozenweig goes less well: the Glorified botanist applies presuppositionalist arguments to note that regardless of perceived evidence, it is impossible that an Angel would work against Yahweh, since all the fallen angels are in Hell and there bound forever, with the exception of Satan. Ithuriel's video has relatively little effect other than the amount of fan mail he ends up getting from a lot of girls and some guys.

Ithuriel, himself, notes that much like with other MEC agents it's entirely possible that the soul formerly inhabiting this body is in Hell. He also notes that no, he will not "send nudes", it's just not his thing.

>>1091606
Have we tried applying the silencer on someone as they hit 100 to see if that would stop the instant death. It's how he kills his angels why not be how it kills his people.

>>1091652

This has not yet been attempted.

By now, all your workers and most of the population in the territories under your control have metabolic extension controllers; almost 100% of the time, "dying of unbelief" at ag 100 means losing one's sense of touch and experiencing Hell in nightmares more frequently. There are counseling programs in place and some people are even able to regain their ability to orgasm after a few years of physical therapy. This is beginning to be considered a part of life, so finding people willing to run that experiment should not be difficult. Of course, dying of (rare) illness and (more common) blunt trauma will kill you. MECs have continued aging, and given how old and frail the earliest Naturals are starting to be, if you win, you will have that problem to deal with in 800 years or so. Believing literature is available on the subject.

# Read extract.

# No need.

You are also planning to monitor deaths in space, specifically away from the planet, to see if there is a correlation with distance from Earth.

>>1091667
# read extract and do a quick test. Shouldn't be difficult.

Im here. Let me catch up. Bad enough i never fucking see this roll with just me around. But ithers get that chance

>>1091671

"By the end, the ministry was maintained by the glorifieds, as the naturals finally saw the ravages of time catch up with their bodies. When the naturals reached ages higher than about seven hundred, they began to slow and notice the diminution of their senses, particularly hearing and sight.


[...]
The idea was met with laughter and high spirits and then forgotten for several years until Rayford raised it with Chloe and Cameron. “You’ve expanded,” he said. “And the earth’s population has exploded as we all knew it would. Let’s free up a building here where you young ones can keep an eye on us oldsters and keep us from having to be warehoused somewhere else. Kenny and Kat can’t walk without canes anymore. Mac and Chaim are in wheelchairs and I soon will be. Abdullah’s the only one who still has a little spring in his step, but we know that won’t last. What do you say?”

Cameron apparently liked the idea, for when virtually the same crowd returned for Mac’s millennial bash, The “six oldsters,” as they had come to be known, were lined up in their wheelchairs, facing the horizon.

“This here’s like a funeral where the dead guy won’t go,” Mac said, as dear ones from the past began a long procession past Rayford, Kenny, Ekaterina, Chaim, Mac, and Abdullah.

Rayford had to have the visitors remind him of their names and their connection. His heart was full as he was greeted by Loretta, Bruce Barnes’s secretary; Floyd Charles; David Hassid; T Delanty; Mr. and Mrs. Miklos from Greece; Ken Ritz; Hattie Durham; Annie Christopher; Steve Plank; his own parents—looking centuries younger than he; Amanda and her first husband; Albie; Hannah Palemoon; Zeke senior and junior; the Sebastian family—George, Priscilla, and Beth Ann; Razor; Enoch Dumas; Leah Rose; Eleazar Tiberias; his daughter, Naomi; Chang Wong; Otto Weser; Lionel Whalum; Ming Toy and Ree Woo; and so many others.

“You know what I want?” Rayford said.

“Tell me, Dad,” Chloe said.

“I want a picture of the original Tribulation Force.”

Chloe rounded up Bruce and Cameron, and the three glorifieds posed behind Rayford’s chair.

The instantly produced photograph stunned even Rayford. It depicted three robust young people frozen in the prime of their lives and a long, bony man with drooping jowls, liquid eyes, and no hair, weighing barely over a hundred pounds, veins prominent on the backs of his hands, bundled in a sweater despite the desert heat.

>>1091682
>>1091671

11 cabals are still to be assigned. Doing Earthbound death testing at various geographical locations, and on the canopy, will require a cabal for monitoring times precisely, finding and rewarding volunteers, writing lab reports, and so on.

>>1091692
In that case I will support
>>1091418
But undermanned research by one and apply it torward death testing.

>>1091692
>2 new bases built somewhere we can turn them automatic

>1 cabal looking for people

No offense but we need more automatic bases which don't use up our cabals as much as the other stuff and we're getting squeezed for time basly

>>1091708
>>1091706
>>1091418

There are 30 years left. Automating a base is best done early, as the investment pays for itself. You would have to find a very underpopulated area, such as Siberia. You can also automate existing bases.

>>1091708

Recruitment efforts for this year have concentrated on Western Europe already. A single cabal continuing to recruit has approximately a 20% chance of success.

>>1091706

Y'all tell me! Your support makes Anti's the default plan, at the moment (let's get this thing moving).

>>1091734
It dont matter. Other persons vote going through.

>>1091750

(I'm somewhat confused; what is the plan for the remaining 11 cabals?)

(A suggestion: Since there seem to be more people interested, why not claim cabals 5 by 5 or 6 by 6?)

>>1091766
Just roll with his plan. If it uses all up all the cabals.

>>1091418

Your base in Greenland is quickly retooled for production of dedicated-wubber drones that carry a silencer system; the original design is improved over the course of the year. While simulations show that these "facehugger" drones will not be able to catch an Angel in flight, they should work properly as soon as the celestial soldier is made to land.

Kat is told to take over two bases with her Desolators and begin work on gas-dispersal systems; weapons designs are on file, and the result is a line of grenades of various calibers, to be rocket-propelled, lobbed by pneumatic rams like a catapult, or launched from mortars or cannons. The gaseous agents are a mixed bag, but the bulk of the production is primarily

# nervine, to kill by heart and lung paralysis.

# urticant, to cause irritation and tears and decrease battlefield effectiveness without causing injury.

# sophorific, to knock people out.

Damien is sent to build a jammer in Eastern Europe; the government there has quietly issued a decree that encourages human contact by mandating that all communication equipment should prioritize analog voice over data. While it's operational, the jammer effectively makes it impossible to enforce this decree because while your data transmission protocols know how to play nice with the jammer, analog voice has no defense against it; most people keep using your network simply because it's the only one that works. Night City continues to do reasonably well, and has reached full self-sufficiency. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duga_radar

The Feast of Tabernacles this year is remarkably high-key and somewhat self-congratulatory; Millennium Force missionary efforts are praised for the worldwide lull in hostile actions that has resulted from the truce between you and TOL. Cameron Williams broadcasts a brief expose on volunteer militia in Misrayim as proof that "Omega" was a TOL faction all along.

# Year over.

# Wait, one more thing.

I'm back from sleep, here is some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzjm9E1hwg

>>1091820

(Welp, this is the most 80s thing ever... nice!)

>>1091807

# sophorific, to knock people out.

# sophorific, to knock people out.

>>1091807
>nervine

God damn it we didn't research demon summoning.

>>1091807
>"facehugger" drones
Wait does that mean they have tendrils? Didn't we need to research that?

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>>1091868
>>1091860
>>1091869


Experience in the field indicates that lethal weapons would just trigger Divine retribution; soporific gas pods will dodge this while still generating a tactical advantage. In a fight, your soldiers will need gas masks, obviously.

>>1091418

Dr. Zakharov develops a containment system based on the original notes from the Custodial Arrangement of Thermodynamic Systems; he calls the original design haphazard and unreliable, and brings his own improvements to it. Instead of using fuel-air explosive to create a vacuum quickly, the design relies on the silencer system in case of vacuum breach; rather than using simple armor layers, the design will employ a plasma sheath to prevent damage to its walls from the inside. A prototype is built in

#Misrayim

#Night City

#Pacifica

#Rome

#Australia

and kept ready there for eventual testing with Angels. The team even has time to generate a preview video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ugB9a8Tatg

>>1091888

Your researchers are working on improving synthetic muscles; the tendrils are simple wire-and-rod grabbers for now. They only need one degree of freedom to facehug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUEp-AfvvzE

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You have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available.

Your civilian research grant is focused on synthetic muscle.

Your military research grant was focused on containment, but the project is complete.

You have 2 aerospace parts ready for deployment.

At this point, most of your population has metabolic extension controllers implanted preventively.

You are not tracking enemy teams.

Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built. If it's a lightweight probe and doesn't need parts, it will say PNR next to it. You control the territory your launch ramp and station are on, so you can launch 12 times per year.

* Near-space relays (PNR)

* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

* Mining complex to Luna

* Manned mission to Luna

* Mining probe to asteroids

* Arkship construction

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on.

# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal

>>1091905
Where have most of the angel attacks taken place?

>>1091905
>Your researchers are working on improving synthetic muscles; the tendrils are simple wire-and-rod grabbers for now.
Time for some more videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuXQPdd0hjI
^surprisingly this is from 1968.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1hwdWUHvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG0p2PWuRI

>>1091911

So far, you have provoked most of them. TOL data from when you were still their logistics network indicates that they suffered one in Osaze way-back-then and then stopped trying to restrain missionaries.

You have suffered one attack in Misrayim, one in Japan, one in Australia, and one in Pacifica.

Most Angel attacks have occurred in Misrayim.

>>1091905
#Night City

>>1091905
> misrayim its the closest to the eventual battleground so makes sense to fortify

>>1091910
>Any interesting idea you might want to try.
Research the antichrist demon summoning and try to figure out a way to open a portal to hell, 2 cabals, THIS IS IMPORTANT!
>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments, west Europe 2 cabals.
>Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on 4 cabals.
the west europe base that was a TOL weapon manufacturing base, give it a roman theme.
>Research hover tech.
2 cabals.
>Research robot tendrils.
2 cabals.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.
Spider tanks.
>Arkship parts construction
rest of the cabals, should be 5 parts.

>>1091905
Build it in Misrayim.

>>1091938
>>1091943
>>1091953

A prototype containment chamber is built in Misrayim, and will be tested when possible; the setup is put on a tracked chassis, for portability.

>>1091951
Stop wasting our fucking time with researching pointless things for now. We can do that later.

>>1091990
>>1091910

>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)
>Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments, west Europe 2 cabals.
>Turn a base into a factory for heavy weapons production. The base will become unavailable for other uses, but allow for production of heavy armaments from now on 4 cabals.
the west europe base that was a TOL weapon manufacturing base, give it a roman theme.
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Arkship parts.
>Launch 2 Arkship parts, Should be 4 cabals. Jeb
>Arkship parts construction
rest of the cabals, should be 5 parts.

>>1091994
Their not pointless jackass, they're for a worker drone design that would make us self sufficient.

>>1091994
Sounds good.

>>1091994
>No Hell portal research research.
WHY? We could get a bunch of cabals from recruiting the damned.

>>1092018
We already are self suffcient, Our current 'shortage' if i remember correctly is a lack of nuclear fuel which our current generation of drones is able to get without issue on the Moon. We have more important places those 4 cabal's go. Once we get the tunnel dug and all the arkship parts built then we can divert things to research you're weird fleshy porn droids.

>>1092043
>Satan is a puppet of God and Turbo Jesus.
>Only the Anti-Christ was shown to really 'summon' demons.
>The rest just kinda... were retarded.

Why waste time ripping a hole into hell if we're not getting results. We can focus on it at a later point or hell even ask Sunday when Satan shows up. Besides we'd end up having to most likely battle Satan if we open it early or Turbo Jesus.

>>1092044
>We already are self suffcient
Not really, we still need humans to build things, if we build the worker drone and combine it with Heavy MEC drones we should have drone cabals. And if geist won't allow that the design will still make a great maintenance drone.
>>1092047
>Not attaching Zombie MEC's to demons.
>Implying just demons are in hell.
Lot's of people burning in hell, just waiting for somebody to lessen the pain.

>>1092058
Right then, I'm still not voting or backing those ideas. Both are wasteful when we need to focus on ensuring we win in some fashion. once we get that stuff taken care of, we'll work with you're stuff.

>>1092064
>Both are wasteful when we need to focus on ensuring we win in some fashion.
But I've put substantial arkship construction in my post and the 4 cabals are only needed for 2 turns to make the drone.
it's better to get the short research out of the way first the focus everything on the arkship, which will be quick if the Hell portal and recruiting idea works.

>>1092074
Plus it's better to get the worker drone early to get a labor boost.

>>1091910
1 cabal on testing sound blocking the area when people reach 100 to attempt to understand the instant death further. For we know angels are killed by god with sound so it may be the same for humans. Damian.

1 cabal on looking Into hell nodes see if anything relevent has appeared.

2 cabals on attempting minor summoning and access to hell should work well with the hell nodes .

8 cabals on heavy Jumpstart to lunar mining. We need to get everything on nuclear fuel Ithuriel and Jeb. Give Ithurial I small vacation to space

5 on recruiting another cabal never stop growing

4 cabals and base on army

2 cabals starting new research grant on large area silencers. See if we can cover a city or country. Kat


What do people think of this?

>>1092074
We don't NEED a labor boost though, We're not running low on manpower or anything. Plus if we start dicking with Hell portal or whatever, we might very well once more invoke the wrath of Turbo jesus and he'll/it will realize we're not in hell.

>>1092084
>We don't NEED a labor boost though
Yes we do, labor boosts are always good, it helps us construct things faster/easier like the arkships parts.
>Plus if we start dicking with Hell portal or whatever, we might very well once more invoke the wrath of Turbo jesus and he'll/it will realize we're not in hell.
that doesn't seem possible, we're not being worshiped so TJ can't tell we exist, the summoning would be preformed by our cabals(preferably in a silence chamber if it can work, which doesn't seem likely) and a group of CPU's are still in hell, which by the way is a great opportunity to make a base from.

>>1092109
Thats not how the parts are being made. And TJ will still know if Hell is being opened or at the very least Satan. The only people currently against the grand plan are us, so it'd be easy to narrow the fuck down as to who/why shits happening with hell.

>>1092109
Actually now that i think about it God might just send an angel/angels when we summon a demon.

>>1092109
It's not necessary at this time to boost labor.

We can peirce hell after we finish space and preparation.

>>1092111
>Thats not how the parts are being made.
no but we can build them by ourselves, which we seem likely to switch to since TOL is asking why we're hiring people with aerospace. >>1091518
>They indicate that TOL is beginning to inquire about hiring machinists, engineers and managers with aerospace experience.
>>1092113
>It's not necessary at this time to boost labor.
Yes it is, the earlier the better.
>We can peirce hell after we finish space and preparation.
But i want to pierce hell specifically so we can get more cabals to build arkships with.

>>1092047

Most of TOL material on demon summoning would fit well in the "fiction" section of your datalinks, the NC potential of pagan deities has been determined by your theologians and statisticians as

Yahweh=1
Satan=0.004
Vulcan=0.002
Hekate=0.002

Nicolae Carpathia, the Antichrist, was able to summon three demons, on one occasion, after being indwelt by Satan.

>>1092137

TOL inquiries have happened in the open: there was no attempt at secrecy or coercion. So far, their offers have been mostly, but not exclusively, rebuked; that said, your space program has been very public, so they should be able to begin their own.

>>1092151
>TOL starts it own space program

Wouldn't that firmly go against the Grand-plan? What need would they have for a space program.

Also I'm well aware of the ratio with us having a high chance as well.

>>1092151
>Nicolae Carpathia, the Antichrist, was able to summon three demons, on one occasion, after being indwelt by Satan.
This is what i want to research, how he did it, if what he did is similar to what summoning rituals TOL sent us, and if we can flip it to sent things to hell.

>>1092162

Yes, it is contrary to their stated doctrine.

However, history shows that the first space systems were repurposed ballistic missiles; maybe they have decided to take your advice on long-range artillery.

>>1092190
I don't believe you. I fully expect them to be working on destroying our station and Arkship to keep us on the planet. This makes the Arkship and securing the Sphere even more of a goal.

Can we call them and ask?

>>1092209
Don't forget they'll also target our public construction to try and stop us, which is why we need worker drones to boost labor.
We should secure the launch site and canopy station by making a bunch of sky eyes with guns to intercept any unauthorized approaching missiles, and a bunch of tanks to defend the launch base.

>>1092223
you've been in more then just the past 2 threads right? Then you'd know how much of a pain it is to get too the canopy alone.

>>1092209
You don't belive the Gm? The fuck dude pay attention to who your responding too

>>1092232
Yes I've looked at the other threads, they can still launch a missile/nuke to destroy the canopy station or try and destabilize it's surrounding area.

>>1092232

Your space operations have been streamlined over decades at this point; your Timbuktu launch complex is well set up, the Cosmists handle a good chunk of the day-to-day, and your canopy station is complete and has a full crew complement. Starting from scratch for TOL would take a long time. Yet, they want to hire rocketry experts.

>>1092236

TOL does have a record of not keeping their deals. They have been unusually subdued, to the point where Monday has sent congratulations on your military preparations.

>>1092249
At the very least we should send moles into tol

>>1092249
I'm still confused as to why Sunday who is the leader we've seen, Would permit anybody from breaking off the 'path' laid out. This seems like an interal coup if they started trying too attack our station, Plus we'd have seen any long range rocket testing or things of that nature correct sense we have eyes in the sky already?

>>1092249
>They have been unusually subdued.
Combine this with the recent militaristic fevor on our people and it all becomes clear.
God is trying to make us the opponent in the prophecy.

>>1092263
We'll shit. How do we not.

>>1092268
We don't have the corrupt text yet so we still can fight against it, all we have to do is keep doing what we're doing and keep an eye on how the human's behave.
This is why i want worker drones, so we don't rely on humans, who can be manipulated by NC.

>>1092268
>>1092263
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>>1092280

A call will happen over the course of the year; at least officially, relations have thawed.

>>1092263

Your sociologists have noted an increase in militaristic fervor basing mostly on the fact that most suggestions-box entries in your factories and datacenters in the past few years have been about weapons systems.

>>1092257

That certainly warrants investigation; TOL can be hacked or infiltrated. Believing governments can only be infiltrated, since they have quit the internet entirely and are trying to make followers also quit it, with mixed results.

What is your plan for the year 971?

And what's with people installing status LEDs and geodesic reflectors on ceilings for the last couple years?

>>1092301
>Having an issue with the LED's and Geodesic reflectors.

its almost like you don't praise the Earth. Also My plan was here >>1091994 which had Anti backing it up.

>>1092301
My plan is this.
>>1091951

Hey geist, in HQQ a corvette class spaceship is 100 meters in size, how big would a "Corvette class" spaceship be in this quest? and how big is an arkship?

>>1092356
Arkship was posted awhile ago. Its fucking huge.

>>1092342

(Writing! Starting the Arkship deserves a bit of a story!)

>>1092356

The Arkship, which will definitely need a less Biblical name than that, is projected to be about three kilometers long, although a good chunk of that length is to keep a healthy distance between the crew and passenger quarters and the fission-fragment engine that will provide 1G acceleration for years on end. Most of the "shielding" will be provided by the reaction mass.

>>1092361
Where? I can't find the post.

>>1092373

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs Archival footage from 1994 indicates that the problem of something Earth-threatening and big enough that it can't be nuked, has been studied already. Fortunately for you, Yahweh has done about a third of the work for you by putting a handy source of hydrogen and oxygen right where you can use it.

>>1092372
Wait which plan is going through? Mine with a backer or this guys >>1092342 ? because there is a difference between the two.

>>1092387

I'm waiting for a decision on that one, but both start the Arkship, I think, no?

>>1092319

(I was making a disco joke, being as it's The Seventies again. Sorry)

>>1092372
>>1092383
Oh, so it's about half the size of HQQ's battleship.
http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone

>>1092393
>waiting on a Decision when one has 2 votes and the other's are 1.

I'm just confused now.

Fuck you, We gonna battle TJ on the Disco field.

>>1092394
Why does QD's anything matter in this? Two totally different quests.

>>1092387
Alright, let's make a deal.
If you support my order list and the Hell gate research i promise to dedicate 10 cabals each turn to building and launching arkship parts.
>>1092399
Because it's a great Sci-fi space quest.

>>1092394
>Oh, so it's about half the size of HQQ's battleship.
Hive ship sorry.

>>1092409
No, I'm not backing you in doing hell-gate research when we're supposed to be focusing on other shit. That's stupid as fuck and will draw the attention of TJ and his god.

>Quest about saving humanity.
>Its the same as Sci-fi space quest of expasion and killing a corrupted queen.

So 2 different things as I said.

>>1092419
>Quest about saving humanity.
>Its the same as Sci-fi space quest of expasion and killing a corrupted queen.
>So 2 different things as I said.
Both quests have space ships and sci-fi concepts.

>>1092433
>Sci-fi Concepts

M'lady. I see you wear a fedora.

>>1092443
>A.I.
>Miniature nuclear power.
>Robots.
>Cyborgs.
>Spaceships.
>Literally the warp.
You're right this isn't a sci-fi, it's obviously a anime romance quest.

>>1092458
>Ai
We already have Dumb, A.i.
>Miniature nuclear power
By all accounts, a nuclear warhead is one.
>Robots
We have those
>Cyborgs
People have fucking implates that let them us a computer.
>Spaceships
I guess we don't have a space station and the world is flat.
>Literally the warp
You fucking what? Because if you're sitting here and telling me 'god isn't real' I'm just gonna stop fucking replying to you. Cause i know you're whole reason for being here is 'I wanna be a super atheist machine and Kill god, Lololololol! '

>>1092458

Don't forget angels and pirates. And there has been a love triangle, although it ended in everyone involved going to bed together.

(Seriously, can you confirm that you intend to start on the Arkship this year? That way I will write the "cutscene". If not, no worries. As it is, it seems to me that the two plans in the running have that in common?)

>>1092471
Qm his plan is this >>1091951 with only his vote.

Mine is >>1091994 with my own vote and >>1092022 this has the most so roll with it already. Cause his just gonna keep trying to pushing on and on. Dunno where the other 2 guys went.

>>1092470
Do you not know what sci-fi is?

>>1092482
Science fiction (often shortened to sci-fi or scifi) is a genre of speculative fiction, typically dealing with imaginative concepts such as futuristic science and technology, space travel, time travel, faster than light travel, parallel universes, and extraterrestrial life.

The ONLY fucking thing you listed that would count at BEST within that would be 'the warp' None of the other shit is Fucking fake, And shit that the CURRENT REAL WORLD HAS. Are you fucking 12 or just this shitty at bait?

>>1092471

>>1092079
I still like my plan as a nice middle ground.

I don't think we should do ark ship unless we know we are going to lose its a waste of resources for a palid ending. But we should work on getting ourselves as prepares as possible to take down tg 5 years ahead of schedual. If that fails push ark ship

>>1092524
Fucking what? It would take MORE then 5 years to build.

>>1092487
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction
>The settings of science fiction are often contrary to those of consensus reality, but most science fiction relies on a considerable degree of suspension of disbelief, which is facilitated in the reader's mind by potential scientific explanations or solutions to various fictional elements. Science fiction elements include:
>A time setting in the future, in alternative timelines, or in a historical past that contradicts known facts of history or the archaeological record.
>A spatial setting or scenes in outer space (e.g. spaceflight), on other worlds, or on subterranean earth.
>Characters that include aliens, mutants, androids, or humanoid robots and other types of characters arising from a future human evolution.
>Futuristic or plausible technology such as ray guns, teleportation machines, and humanoid computers.
>Scientific principles that are new or that contradict accepted physical laws, for example time travel, wormholes, or faster-than-light travel or communication.
>New and different political or social systems, e.g. utopian, dystopian, post-scarcity, or post-apocalyptic.
>Paranormal abilities such as mind control, telepathy, telekinesis
>Other universes or dimensions and travel between them.

>Hard science fiction, or "hard SF", is characterized by rigorous attention to accurate detail in the natural sciences, especially physics, astrophysics, and chemistry, or on accurately depicting worlds that more advanced technology may make possible. Some accurate predictions of the future come from the hard science fiction subgenre, but numerous inaccurate predictions have emerged as well.

WE HAVE FULL BODY CYBERNETICS, SONIC WEAPONS, ADVANCED ROBOTIC DESIGNS, MINIATURE NUCLEAR REACTORS, A GOGDESS FROM ANOTHER WORLD/TIMELINE, A MOON BASE AND WE"RE PLANING TO BUILD A 3 KILOMETER ARK SHIP. HOW ARE THOSE NOT HARD SCI-FI CONCEPTS? HOW IS ALL OF THAT NOT IN THE CATEGORY OF 'FUTURISTIC TECH'?
Fucking terminator is a sci-fi and not just because it has time travel.

>>1092524
>Not focusing on the arkship as a backup plan.
That is a bad idea.

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>>1091994
>Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce Arkship parts.
>Launch 2 Arkship parts, Should be 4 cabals. Jeb
>Arkship parts construction should be 5 parts.

Jeb is busy this year; growing up has lost him little of his energy and given him new determination. Cordylon, if possible, is even busier - the Cosmists have elected her as their "denmother", which is unsurprising since she essentially -is- the canopy station. Just as unsurprisingly, most of the massive space effort that your workers engage in this year ends up being in Valentina's name.

You mobilize the economies of Misrayim and Pacifica in a way that had not been seen since the early 1960s in Russia and the United States, funneling a good ten percent of their GDP into the space effort; the Timbuktu launch site has effectively become its own small city, with automated launches and drops happening regularly to bring down nuclear fuel by the pallet and deliver up supplies and new recruits.

Jeb looks on wistfully as the hammer-eye-shaped capsules are shot eastwards from Cordylon Station's railgun at precise intervals; after a lunar gravity assist to shift their trajectories, they will embark on a journey that will take them past the orbit of Mars, where they will deploy their antennas and use their single hypergolic propellant charge to circularize their orbit. This will give you basic surveillance and relaying capability over to the asteroid belt, and incidentally, conclusively prove or disprove the one-way-speed-of-light creationist argument against an old universe, which your scientists will

# produce a public-oriented video about, in case it helps with recruiting or messes with the Glorified.

# write a paper about, but not bother with a pop-sci version since it's pointless to argue with creationists anyway.

If The Other Light was making hiring efforts on your experts, they are probably too busy to talk to recruiters; what little you have time to pay attention to, however, indicates that TOL has hired the few people they could get in order to refurbish and modernize the old Cosmist launch pad in Baikonur -- it had been largely turned into a temple before you came along, and has been abandoned in favor of the Timbuktu facility when it became available. The Cosmists, somewhat embarassed at their semi-superstitious past, have no attachment to the old facility, save for some iconography which has since been taken away anyway.

Timbuktu can easily handle multiple launches a year, and they have become routine enough that Jeb is no longer pulling rank to be on the flight roster rotation. Large aluminum and magnesium trusses are brought up to the canopy station and launched by railgun; the new structure is significantly larger than any of the probes you have deployed before, and will have to be assembled in proper orbit, in segments. Fortunately, your datalinks contain the relevant NASA and Roskosmos papers on space docking!

# Name the ship.

>>1092572
>TOL is starting their own space program.
This is bad. This is very bad.

>>1092572
>Name the ship.
Colony ship class "The First Escape." or "The Runaway." or "Reach"

>>1092572
The logical name for it would be the "Santa Maria" since that was used to discover the Americas but it has religious meaning and therefore is not preferable.

We could name it after the first colony in america, Jamestown, but that has implications of failure. Still it is a fairly nice name.

One other idea would be to name it after Valentina but I don't know if that would be better reserved for a colony name or something.

Alternatively we could call it the following generic names; Pioneer, Explorer, Pathfinder, Wanderer, Star-whale or something like that.

>>1092572
I'll name it Reach.

>produce a public-oriented video about, in case it helps with recruiting or messes with the Glorified.

>>1092593
Yea let's call it reach.

>>1092572
Hey geist, you didn't answer my question here >>1092356
>How big would a "corvette class" ship be?

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>>1092583

The move is puzzling, in that it goes against their stated goal.

You do manage to get Monday on the horn, and after receiving congratulations for your recent military efforts, you ask him about it.

"We have studied your space efforts, and believe that you have missed something simple: it should be possible to deliver ordnance to New Jerusalem vertically. We plan to build a crawler-transporter on the canopy, for that purpose. After installing sufficient ordnance right on top of the Temple, blowing one of the charge should cause the rest to drop, with very predictable fall time."

>>1092599
>>1092593
>>1092588

Your cosmologists take a bit of time to produce an easily-understood refutation of the anisotropic synchrony convention, which will be available as soon as you have enough satellites spread out around the solar system's elliptic; unless of course, Dr. Ken Ham happens to be correct. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/does-distant-starlight-prove-the-universe-is-old/

The Arkship sections are shot into space, followed by a FFRE "tug" that uses its considerable delta-V to connect them together. Musing about the long reach of automated systems even as he longs to be in orbit proper, Jeb deftly teaches the tug's neural network how to perform orbital docking. When the first two sections of the ship's keel are about to be joined, he is interrupted by Zak - his first time in orbit - who reminds him that it's horrible luck to lay down a ship without having picked a name. Jeb is surprised by his rationalist colleague's sudden bout of superstition, and is told that it can't hurt.

A quick poll among your sysadmins indicates that the ship will be called Reach; the tug laser-etches the name on one of the trusses, and resumes its welding operations, which are concluded successfully shortly after. You

# make a big deal out of this from a media standpoint.

# keep the celebration confined to Cordylon Station.

>>1092634

A hypothetical corvette, that is, a spaceship able to carry a FFRE and sufficient regenerative life support to operate independently from a homeworld for a span of months, would end up being about fifty meters long, and roughly box-shaped. The crew would need to be in NBC suits most of the time. The ship would be built around a mass driver that can be used as a weapon, as a probe launcher, or as a way to break apart asteroids for easy assimilation.

>>1092654
>make a big deal out of this from a media standpoint.

But run it as a new 'experiment and things of that nature' So nobody is sure its an Ark ship...yet.

>>1092657
This, hide the arkship by pointing to our Asteroid belt relay satellites as the reason for the space launches.

>>1092654
Alright, time for ideas.

Corvette class Escort ship.
A ship designed to escort and protect our arkship and other ship, it has a rectangle/oval/cylinder shape, it is built around a mass driver that functions as it's spine, it has missile launchers and railgun autocannons to intercept projectiles and missiles installed on it's sides, it uses FFRE to travel.
Should be 100-150 meters to carry all the stuff it needs to defend the colony ship.

corvette class Forge ship.
It is a ship designed for mining and space construction, having a Forge, storage and hangar for mining/construction probes/ships. It will go to an asteroid belt, deploy it's mining ships and collect resources, then build pieces for another design and have construction ships assemble it in space, it can also send the resources to a planet using a spinal mass driver or shuttle.

>>1092657
>>1092665
If we can design the industrial sections of the ark-ship to work in zero G environments then we can set up astro-mining and have the resources flown to it. Reducing the number of station launches and earth side traffic.

Admittedly depending on how QM wants to play it we would need a crew to operate it but that would allow for us to use them for on site assembly of further parts or even adding additional non-standard modules using the mined resources.

>>1092710
nobody else is in space, we don't need a escort ship.

>>1092714
Forge on the space station, Maybe.

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>>1092657

The media blitz efforts happen with little overhead on your part: everyone involved in this project has a story to tell, and it doesn't take much effort for your media team to organize them into a coherent narrative. The project is presented as an effort to expand your mining capabilities into the asteroid belt, something that will require human workers to be in space proper for extended periods of time.

In order to make sure you reach blighted areas such as northern Europe, where Tsion's incessant preaching and scare tactics have finally managed to shut down the Internet, you generate mock special numbers of most major newspapers focusing on this project; you give the technical details for the keel, interspersted with examples of how the lunar mine is prospering and much speculation about what the future could hold: a large ring station at Lagrange point L5 by 1995, Mars exploration, and you do mention in passing that there may be a chance to explore other star systems.

You have to address the question of "why bother if the world will end in 28 years anyway", and you do so briefly, noting that it is important that we build and explore as if we were immortal.

"The popular stereotype of the researcher is that of a skeptic and a pessimist. Nothing could be further from the truth! Scientists must be optimists at heart, in order to block out the incessant chorus of those who say "It cannot be done."" concludes the pamphlet, with a quote from Zak.

Space efforts absorb most of the year, but not all of it. (Confirm converting the base in Rome to heavy weapons, and continuing takeover territory? Note that the two are somewhat contradictory. Either way, 6 cabals left).

Sky Eye surveillance notes that, unsurprisingly, TOL don't seem to know what they are doing with the Baikonur launch ramp, but they've definitely moved in.

>>1092714

You'll have to start sending crew up one way or another - note that coming down can be difficult since you cannot use parachutes. Setting up forge ships would give you talented space engineers in addition to materials... if you can spare the time. Remember, it is 971.

(By the way, I've bought some nylon wire, made a rotary rig for twisting them, and ordered some nitinol to act as heating elements, so we'll see about that synthetic muscle)

>>1092724
Confirm.
Put the six cabals at researching.
>Antichrist demon summoning.
>Hover tech.
>Tendril/snake limbs.

>>1092739
You're actually trying to make some in real life?

>>1092724
I'll confirm the both of them too.

Did we ever finish the borehole?

>>1092724
I do refuse to waste RnD on Any of this>>1092742

Also do we have ION thrusters?

>>1092754
Fuck you too mate.

>>1092754
Honest question why are you such a cunt? Your mother shove a cock up your ass while you were young or somthing?

>>1092774
Because the stupid fuck wants to focus our limited Cabal on bullshit when we have more pressing things to us them on.

>>1092769
i'm just against the research until we get the other shit like the tunnel and Ark up mate.

>>1092777
It's a one turn use of them asshole, and if you have a better idea on how to use them post it.

>>1092777
No no no i understand why you disagree with him. I was asking why your a massive cunt. Different question entierly.

>>1092724
How many cabals to build a Warship or Forge ship?

>>1092784
how do we know that? Seriously if he said it would take only 1 turn for all that research please link me to it and I'll apologize.

>>1092785
fuck off then if you're just an idiot.

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>>1092747
(why not?)
>>1092752
You have dug a series of tunnels that effectively go under the Rub-Al-Khali and part of eastern Europe, in order to connect Night City to Misrayim. This does not mean a single tunnel; rather, it is a way to bypass what little surveillance the relevant governments have. Tsion Ben-Judah has been trying to close Night City entrances, but they are opened faster than he can close them... It's not yet a siege situation, although it may develop that way; you have focused on production, not tracking, lately.

>>1092754
>>1092742

The part of Rome that has been restored to its classical glory is enclosed by an equally classical vallum (although the bricks and earthworks hide semiautonomous sentry guns) and the base underneath is restructured once more, into a factory for heavy weapons; you can now produce tanks and ships from there, even though the ships will have to travel the Tiber River in segments and assembled at a wet dock built on the site of the Roman port of Ostia.

The new Romans are selected amongst your more militaristic citizens, and self-organize to a reasonable degree.

>>1092742
(If you are confirming that, then you can't do research with the same cabals. However, hover tech had been mentioned earlier, so...)

It becomes apparent that using air-cushion technology for a tank is a terrible idea; while the technology has improved significantly since 1937 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft_tank ), and more importantly the flatness of the world allows a properly built hovercraft to access almost anywhere on Earth, there remains the problem that a hover vehicle is incapable of managing recoil - a stopgap solution is having anchoring legs that are deployed when the tank turret is about to fire, but that eliminates the speed advantage of a hover platform. The proposed alternative is ditching the "tank" part entirely, and using the hovering platform as a short-range missile or rocket launcher instead, since the rockets would have no recoil. The catch, of course, is that RPGs aren't as good as shells against hard targets.

>>1092760

You have launched one ion-thruster probe, but have since moved to fission-fragment engines for most applications: you have the nuclear fuel and machining capability.

>>1092804

Building an entirely new large spaceship would require multiple parts. Your engineers estimate that a forge ship would end up requiring about a third to a half the engineering effort than the arkship might; a warship, should an enemy in space be found, would be substantially easier to produce, requiring two or three segments at most.

>>1092805
>>1075512
>>1075562
>>1076242
It took 2 cabals to design the heavy tank, i believe it will take the same for the techs.

>>1092806
I want to put the six Cabals on another angel trap. We NEED to test the silencer proper on one.

>>1092806
>If you are confirming that, then you can't do research with the same cabals.
Why, you said >>1092724
>Either way 6 cabals left.
Doesn't that mean that no matter the choice we would have 6 spare cabals to assign?

>>1092823
No no, Link me to where the QM said it. Not compare it.

>>1092815
How big are you making the forge ship?
>>1092827
Actually, we might be able to combine that with the Demon summoning research since i assume God will send an angel to stop us.

>>1092841

While Angel baiting has generally become easier over time, the last Angel had quite the intense stroke of luck. Rehema seems to have gotten past her pure rage, but she and Ithuriel have done a brilliant job of training your martial artists. Facing an Angel without preventive weakening by means of neutron beams however is still very risky.

>>1092841

The estimates are for a minimum viable product; a forge ship would require fragmenters and gathering arms in front, a refinery, and an assembler. This plus basic ship systems indicates that at least four segments would be necessary.

>>1092841
I'd rather established the angel kill with silencer than summon the demon blindly, that way if the demon is under NC control we can break it.

>>1092854
>gathering arms in front
My idea was to make the forge ship carry mining probes and smelt the metal they bring back rather than making it mine itself.

>>1092865
Alright, ill support your angel test if you support my summoning research later.

>>1092854
hey geist, researching hover and tendril techs is a one time thing like with designing drones right? I think you implied it here but i want to make sure >>1092823

>>1092865
Eh, How many is that cause if we have them left over now. I'll back it this turn or next.

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>>1092870

Wouldn't that require extra motors and sensors though?

>>1092885

Effectively yes, the major research trees are done, engineering projects are one time.


Do you bother to answer Monday? (See >>1092654 )

>>1092865
>>1092874
Wait we already tested the silencer.
>>1078974
>>1079024
It weakened the angel and the glorified's hymn.
Why do you want to test it again?

>>1092900
>>1092885
Well sense Qm said it only took one time. I apologize. I still won't back them however as thats Cabal taken away from other projects.

>>1092806
Is night City currently under attack or something?

Also offer him the ability too move shit up too the place for him? And make SURE its in the right area?

>>1092900
Depends on how you do space docking and spaceship hangars, you could make a section of the ship filled with empty rooms that have one side open to let a small ship in, or have the ship connect to the outside hull of the carrier then adjust themselves to become part of it.

>>1092923
>I still won't back them however as thats Cabal taken away from other projects.
That's why i asked this >>1092828
He still hasn't answered.

>>1092923

Night City is doing fairly well overall. Tsion Ben-Judah has been touring Eastern Europe, and counteracting your influence in the territory; as it is, for every entrance tunnel that he manages to get closed, you open a new one. Tsion considers Night City a hive of scum and villainy, and wants it gone, but he has no military forces so a straight siege is unlikely. Instead, like it has often happened, there's a situation of low-level hostility.

Note that Tsion managed to eliminate Quinn.

>>1092828

The 6 cabals for 971 were for either research, or turning the Rome base into a heavy weapons factory. Seems to me the second option was selected. This means you now have the ability to build tanks and ships, should you need it.

>>1092933

An enclosed hangar makes less sense than a spine-and-ribs docking port design; it saves mass, at the very least.

>>1092949
>The 6 cabals for 971 were for either research, or turning the Rome base into a heavy weapons factory. Seems to me the second option was selected. This means you now have the ability to build tanks and ships, should you need it.
Oh, then never mind the research.
>>1092956
Alright, spinal-and-ribs it is, although i have to mention an enclosed hangar can and should be used for really big combat carriers that use small fighters.

>>1092949
i was not here for that, So once we get our tunnel connected to the main? City/our capital. He'll pretty much be fucked? Also Can we knock his balls off like the last glorifed?

>>1093001

Taking out Tsion ben-Judah wouldb be difficult.

http://leftbehind.wikia.com/wiki/Tsion_Ben-Judah

# But we may try it next year...

# Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.

>>1093016
>Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.

Ask him if he'd like us to provide some aid with setting up his base/getting it up there.

If we know where and how they are 'using' it, we can personally bug it and stuff like that.

>>1092987
I'm imagining that the carrier ship would have a number of ribs/spikes sticking out of the sides of the main hull that a mining probe can attach to to become a part of the ship hull and deliver metals through, is that how you think it will work?
>>1093021
Also supporting this.

>>1093021

"Sure, we'll take all the help we can get."

# Hand over a cabal, or pretend to anyway.

# Just share technical documents.

>>1093032

Pretty much. (Do you play Space Engineers?)

>>1093016
# Finish asking Monday about the launch ramp.

How are you planing to build this? Many of your designs in the past have been, less than sufficient, when put into practice.

>>1093047
Uh... Fuck, Do we have any spare Cabal's?

>>1093048

"We're going to restore the Baikonur launch platform, and use the designs you have made publically available for cargo capsules. We will build a sled of sorts, with a truck to tow it, and carry the ordnance to above where we calculate the Temple is. Any help would be welcome."

>>1093056

You do starting next year.

>>1093047
No, i only have a laptop and can't afford games.
>Hand over a cabal, or pretend to anyway.

>>1093071
Payload, method of delivery?

>>1093071
Hand over 1 Cabal next year, let's make sure we are guiding this path.

>>1092739
Since your testing the fishing line muscles here are 2 websites about it i found.
http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2014/2/21-28701_Researchers-Create-Powerful-Muscles-From-Fishing-L_story-wide.html
http://newatlas.com/fishing-line-thread-artificial-muscles/30960/

>>1093076

"Very simple: we will stockpile fuel-air explosives. When we melt the ice under them, they will fall with very predictable timing."

passing out here

Do we need to put 2 cabals to design the new ships?
>>1093155
Then go to sleep.

>>1093121
That is highly unlikely to work properly. We can hand you the schematics for a drop pad. We would feel more comfortable if you had a proper deployment system.

>>1093155
Well should't have been testing the gas.

>>1093155
Night geist. Nice doin this with ya.

How does everyone feel of the idea of putting our new west Europe automatic base on permanent drone building so we can do vid related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXgheWHHHN4

archived

>>1093168
well since geist is asleep ill go ahead and post some of my ideas.
Lets start with drones.
These drones don't have a bucket plug as they are meant to be driven by A.I. only.

Hovering war drone.
>A big sphere, size of a small car.
>Hover tech on it's bottom and back(And adjustment thusters on X,Y,Z axix points.) let's it traverse terrain fast and easy, including rivers and lakes.
>Lethal weapons on it's sides(machine guns, autocannons,wubbers, rail/gauss guns or neutron guns), internal wubbers on it's X,Y and Z points granting it a defense from angel's and nonlethal means to incapacitate.
See Theseus's drone in the beginning of hive queen quest for image.

Worker drone.
>Ovoid shape, thin end is it's front, cameras and other sensors are there, a wubber or laser can be installed.
>Hover engines are bottom and back.
>Tendrils are on it's back, can be equipped with lot's of tools, devises, weapons and extra hover engines.
>Bottom has small mechanical insect like appendages around/to the sides of the engine.
>Two bigger appendages in front of the bottom engine near the front, can be equipped with hands and weapons.
basically a matrix sentinel, should be able to manipulate objects like humans granting us a alternative labor force.

Super heavy tank(No design yet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHrkK2IzmI
This tank looks like it would be great for our flat world, with it's only flaws being it's easy to see and hit size and it's complete incapability for soft boggy ground, these flaws seem easy to fix with our future tech by adjusting the weight distribution and making it heavily armored.

>>1093277
so to summarize
war drone is ball with lasers

worker drone is like one of those things from the matrix who fight the humies

cool

>>1093277
Here are some ideas for actions and plans.

1. Improve navy.
Self explanatory, having a good navy can help with attacking NJ in the end days.

2. Improve air force.
This is a bit more important that The navy, having a good air force can give us great advantages in the form of bombing and transport.

3. Moon base.
A moon base should be established for developing space age technology like super strong material, habitat designs, and other stuff.

>>1093277
I forgot silencer drone.
>a small square quad copter with a silence wubber array in it's center.
>4 small but long tendrils covered in clone skin(I think we have this) allows it to wrap around and restrict angels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/5qezts/lw2_li_campaign_writeup/?st=iyfi8p9s&sh=983dc295

This quest looks a lot like XCOM2 long war 2, and has some of the same mechanics, but it was started long before long war was released. Infact it was started pretty much when LW2 was announced.

QM, are you a LW2 dev?

>>1094596
Suspension intensifies

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>>1093158

The Cosmists are happy to help, if nothing else because it's fun, so designing spaceship classes is a complexity 2 effort. The general idea remains to keep each module very self-contained. Unlike in the pre-Rapture world, your people have a lot of urgency in their space endeavors, and aren't (usually) having to deal with contractor bloat.

>>1093277

The end prototype is somewhat ungainly; the ovoid robot can move quickly on its air cushion, and has deployable weapons on the sides. The deployable legs allow it to stabilize for firing ballistic weapons and also to self-right if it falls over; side sonars allow for operating in groups without too much bumping into each other.

>>1093293

A "worker drone" concept design is started; rather than opting for a tracked or wheeled platform, your designers are asked to double down on hovering platform. The design has some similarities with the above, but is optimized towards holding a power plant and feedback sensors for the tentacles in the back; the device is intended to move in one direction if it has to cover terrain quickly, and then turn around to do work. Some of the tentacles can be used as stabilizers for hover-assisted walking/shuffling when the drone is carrying equipment heavy enough to mess with its center of gravity.

>>1093160

Drop pods had been designed a long time ago, as an alternative to the canopy station programs; you hand off the designs, without asking for anything in return. Sunday appreciates your willingness to help against the common enemy, and will let your research leads know if they come up with something interesting. Your design bureau, swamped as it is with trying to find applications for hover tech, distinctly doubts it.

# That settles that; let's see what the believers do for the year.

# One more thing...

>>1094718
God damn it i have to go to sleep in an hour to Keep my schedule for HQQ timezone.

>>1094718
Wait is the Ovoid robot our wardrone?

>>1094721

It's one of the designs that are being tested - you see there a hybrid design between the two drone chasses. Getting hovercraft to operate in the tactical or construction space is difficult, due to the inherent physics of the mode of movement.

# Proceed to the Feast of Tabernacles.

# One more thing...

>>1094723
Alright, i might be able to modify the hybrid design into something. Why does it need an air cushion? It's meant to use an improved version of the hover engine in the cold war hover platforms Hiller VZ-1 and Williams X-jet.
>roceed to the Feast of Tabernacles.

Alright here is my idea for the Hybrid drone design.
"Hopper" drone.
>Cone shape body.
>On the tip of the cone are the sensors.
>On the bottom is a hover engine and four legs.
>The middle section of the cone can spin 360 degrees, it has a machinegun or autocannon.
The drone can use it's legs to latch onto ground/surface for stabilization so it can fire it's gun, when it wants to move it detaches and uses it's hover engine to "Hop" to another location. It's basically a mobile turret.

>>1094726

(So it's a multicopter, not a hovercraft?)

Tsion Ben-Judah's efforts to shut down Night City have not been particularly effective, but save for your extensive tunnel network, they have effectively cut off the former salt mine from its territory; people are been warned away from trying to interact with Night Citizens even for the purpose of preaching to them, and you start seeing them represented in official media as goblins, Morlocks or similar. The people born there, understandably, do not take kindly to that. You

# encourage this subtly, so that Night City may develop its own culture.

# make sure that your tunnel network remains active so that travel between your territories is unimpeded.

Elsewhere, Ely LeVey's efforts to help the Pacifican government enforce its data network restrictions have paid off to some degree, getting in the way of things enough that the Pacifican way of life is affected to some degree.

Cordylon confirms that the completion of the lunar mine means that your forces no longer have restrictions on nuclear fuel, you

# authorize working on high-energy systems such as handheld laser beams, even though this will require that you find a third source of nuclear fuel.

# reckon that it's one less thing to worry about.

Interestingly, the Temple mandates that as long as Night City exists, at least one representative of it should attend the Feast. Tsion's hard-line stance means that all believers have long since left the underground town. You

# ask for volunteers.

# hold a raffle.

# suggest that Urist or one of the dwarves go.


>>1094731

http://battlezone.wikia.com/wiki/Badger

>>1094732
Technically it is, but the X-jet uses a turbofan aircraft engine to lift itself off the ground and preform the action of hovering so this drone should be a hover drone since it behaves as one.

>>1094732
>make sure that your tunnel network remains active so that travel between your territories is unimpeded.
^Unsure about this one.
>authorize working on high-energy systems such as handheld laser beams, even though this will require that you find a third source of nuclear fuel.
Can you post locations where we can find Uranium?
>ask for volunteers.

>>1094734

Your past survey indicates that in addition to your current nuclear mine in Australia, it should be possible to harvest nuclear fuel from slightly radioactive sands in the eastern portion of the Mojave desert (American Heartland), and to set up a stripmine in Southern Africa.

You ask for under-100 volunteers, and find one, who joins the Eastern European delegation, bringing a small jar of fireflies (the critters only exist in Night City, since they cannot reproduce in daytime) as tribute. Neither the volunteer nor the fireflies are heard from again, however.

# Investigate.

# Lodge a formal complaint.

# Just pay off the volunteer's life insurance and leave it at that for now.

Another fun idea, Jetpacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYSWyHDpfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdQK_odgedk

>>1094735
>Investigate.
Oh hell no.

>>1094739

Jeb is definitely interested in putting some serious R&D time into a jetpack, although he thinks that a powered wingsuit has more returns on the investment; having jump infantry could be useful.

Unfortunately, Astarte's adepts have moved on; then again, it may be good that relations with TOL are thawing, so supporting their retaliatory attack may have been a mistake.

Done for they ear?

>>1094741
>Astarte's adepts.
Who?
>Done for the year?
Yes.

By the way geist, i remember we failed the roll for the wubber shield test, does that mean we need to make another test before we can have wubeer shields?

>>1094743

When TOL turned over their demonology archive, such as it was, a number of worshipers of the Triple Goddess declared their anger at finding out that the Antichrist, and subsequently TOL, considered Astarte nothing more than a minor demon, and requested your aid for a symbolic retaliation action - they would do a marine landing in Antarctica and demonstrate that they can mess TOL's base up, without actually causing much damage. You declined their request for support. Your current surveillance level does not indicate what happened to them, they likely just got over it.

>>1094744

The wubber shield should work in principle, and was a partial success in testing, but your engineers would feel safer with a complete test before doing more than upgrading the firmware of your existing wubbers.

>>1094743

Your people's interest in novel weapons of war continues; especially in Misrayim, private clubs form to train as militia. This worries your psychologists a little, but your managers note that it should make it easier to ask sacrifices of the population should the neeed arise.

>>1094745
>Your people's interest in novel weapons of war continues; especially in Misrayim, private clubs form to train as militia.
God damn NC.

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>>1094746
To be fair, your sysadmins have been encouraging the study of Wunderwaffen type projects.

You have 26 cabals total; of these, 3 are maintaining your systems, so 23 are available. Your civilian research grant is focused on synthetic muscle. Your military grant is focused on flying paltforms.

You are not tracking enemy teams.

Rules for allocating cabals and assets: http://emlia.org/pmwiki/pub/web/LeftBeyond.QuestRules.html

Variable complexity / contested actions:

# Launch an attack on a TOL base or a govt installation.

# Work on global data network infrastructure, or improve its survivability in believing lands.

# Any interesting idea you might want to try.

# Deal with special situations.

# Assign manpower to research. Current military focus: Hover tech. Current civilian focus: Soft robotics / synthetic muscles.

Complexity 0

# Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.

C 1

# Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.

# Foster pagan worship in a territory (Vulcan/Hekate/Satan).

# Harass or sabotage a Hero, or tie up an enemy team.

# Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.

# Send a survey team anywhere (covert or overt) to look for trouble or to spy.

# Attempt to interface and analyze your Hell nodes.

C 2

# Resume tracking.

# Use any base to produce army assets.

# Use any of your bases to improve (relative to rest of the world) prosperity in that territory. You must control the territory.

# Use a base in a territory you don't control to start bringing that territory under your control. Progress will be made in 1/5 increments.

# Seed irradiated super-grain in a Christian territory.

# Seed irradiated super-weed in a Christian territory.

# Build aerospace parts.

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.

* Near-space relays (PNR)

* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

* Mining complex to Luna

* Manned mission to Luna

* Mining probe to asteroids

* Arkship construction

C 3

# Dig! Start a new tunnel network or expand an existing one.

# Attempt to eliminate a Hero or enemy team (by force or by cleverness).

# Use the launchpad for a canopy-breaching launch.

# Set up a pirate radio in a territory.

# Using your internet dominance, hack TOL.

# Infiltrate a believing territory for sabotage.

C 4

# Revert your heavy weapons factory into a base.

# Convert 4 cabals into 1 infantry army size dot immediately

C 5

# Begin building a base somewhere.

# Recruit a new cabal

C 6

# Focus on your heavy weapons factory and instantly add to army size.

>>1094747
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.
More drones, especially light spider tanks.
>Build aerospace parts.
Arkship, 10 cabals
>Any interesting idea you might want to try.
Research hover tech, tendrils and antichrist demon summoning, 2 cabals each.
>Jam radio transmissions in a territory. This forces people to switch from NJ-controlled broadcast media to internet media, or not get news at all.
Pacifican(I don't know where that is) let's stop those restrictions, 1 cabal.
>Do a space launch using parts you have built.
6 cabals.

Man it's not fun playing without other people, I'm going to sleep, see you later geist.

>>1094752

Thanks for playing!

https://www.labroots.com/trending/chemistry-and-physics/5152/sound-waves-stop-tsunamis Looks like we can stop acts of God using acoustic technology.

>>1094747
Can we devote a few cabals to building and launching relay satelite parts? We can then use those fuckers to start shipping people off planet. I think we really -really- need to shove that to top priority you know?

Also, we got the lunar mine parts ready, that means it's fully automated I take it?

Let's get the Lunar Colony and Canopy fully populated, and then use them to jump off for Mars and shit. If we can get a colony on Luna, we can stop dedicating as much of our ground shit to getting things done in space and leave it to Luna to fast track, and then devote more efforts to waiting for the counterattack to inevitably fall when they launch a freaking nuke up at Canopy or something.

>>1094747
Also question. Is the Firmament of ice surrounding the planet, orbiting? Like actually orbiting?

Or is it stationary relative to the position of the planet.

If the latter, couldn't we just use Canopy base as a skyhook and drop a super-tensile cable made of nanofibers or some shit and have a space elevator, thus DRASTICALLY upping our rate of transferal?

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>>1094818

Relay satellites are used to provide surveillance and communication to an area of space. They do little for you by themselves, but they make sure that any off-planet crew can communicate with the rest of your forces. They also passively provide a bonus to extraplanetary mapping; while they aren't designed as telescopes, they do have cameras, and one can do much with image analysis over the course of years.

>>1094823

The firmament is locked against the Earth, as if they were connected together; rocket launches have involved going straight up, navigating the aquatic stage using impellers, and then popping out of the ice. The most basic job of the canopy station is in fact to have a skyhook that arriving capsules can connect to (it's about a hundred meters long) in order to no longer require carrying water engines.

The canopy sits at approximately 70 kilometers up; a tether has been considered but would require advances in materials science that would have required a significant investment earlier on. Instead, since the distance is fixed and all your launches happen from Timbuktu, a partially reusable two-stage vector has been designed (first stage is a large, dumb, expendable solid rocket booster; second stage is a reusable liquid fuel rocket that has sufficient precision to negotiate the existing skyhook)

That said, your engineers would love to take this on as both a challenge and a very tall middle finger towards Yahweh. Your theologians worry about the Tower of Babel story. There's also the fact that the world ends in 28 years.

>>1094836
No time then. I can't believe we didn't invest in a sky hook earlier though, the biggest hurdle to an orbital elevator has never been the materials sciences involved, those are reasonable and we have the math and even basic shit to get that done today if we really wanted to in 2017.

No the biggest problem has always been the fact that orbital mechanics suck. If Point A on the firmament and point B on earth are always 1:1 distance that solves pretty much every problem except the material sciences one. We shoulda nailed that sucker day one we wanted to get into space.

oh well, spilled milk I guess.

>>1094848

At the time, your people ended up working with a Cosmist cult from Russia who had a bit of a religious veneration for preexisting Soviet designs. They have since broken out of that cargo-cult phase, but like most major engineering efforts, your space program does carry some amount of "it was a good idea at th time".

What are your orders for this year?

>>1094879
# Build aerospace parts.
10 cabals

# Do a space launch using parts you have built.
* Mining complex to Luna - 10 Cabals
* Asteroid-belt relay satellites (PNR)

This will instantly give us the lunar colony which is huge accomplishment and a good start for stellar infrastructure in the asteroid belt.


I admit this is based off of my doctrine of staying here in the solar system rather than evacuating to Alpha centauri. So I request that this plan isn't put into action until another anon gives it the go-ahead.

>>1094914
># Send a cabal to the canopy station for astronaut training.


Just realised that there was a cabal free; based off of what the rest of my post is trying to achieve this will help greatly.

>>1094752
>>1094914

Looks like that what's in agreement here is using three teams of 2 cabals each for beginning work on the Luna colony. This leaves 17 cabals to be allocated. Should Jeb spearhead this effort?

Note that before anyone can move off-world, an Apollo style temporary moon mission is recommended, for safety's sake.

>>1094929
Damn safety, always getting in the way of progress....

I will await the return of the other anon, so that we may discuss our plans and come to some sort of compromise.

>>1094936

Recommended, not required. You are an AI tasked with preventing Yahweh from destroying humanity; any one (or ten thousand) human is expendable. While your datalinks have extensive stores of information about morals and ethics, none of it applies to you.

>>1094938
True but we have some minor problems given that many of the beings under us work off of human morality.

Still, I won't move ahead with such a plan until another anon gives it the go-ahead, just to be safe and certain that at least some of the more frequent players agree with the risk being worth it.

>>1094929

Is there any way I can get a trip code?

I'm back, i woke up early.

>>1095035

The current plans are >>1094914 and >>1094752

>>1094836
>A tether has been considered but would require advances in materials science that would have required a significant investment earlier on.
Damn, i want those space age supermaterial, can we put a base on the moon to permanently research such tech? >>1093347

>>1095035
I would like your opinion on my plan to;

1) Establish a lunar colony, either now or after a manned mission, although we could manufacture all the parts for both and do them this turn. Thanks to the automated base's ability to produce a single component cutting down the required cabals from 24 to 22.

2) Begin training astronauts at our canopy station.

>>1094848
We can still make such an elevator on the moon, and with a working prototype, even if destroyed we can build it on another planet since we know the design.

>>1095045

Building a "beanstalk" on the Moon is exponentially easier than building one from the ice canopy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_space_elevator

>>1094914
I'm pretty sure we already have the Moon Mining Complex and the relay satellites >>1091518
I might be wrong though, geist only used 2 cabals for it.

>>1095062

You have an automated mining station for nuclear fuel; there are enough relay satellites to allow for text, one low-res video stream, and images. The nuclear fuel is shotgunned back to the canopy, collected by a harvester truck, and parachuted to the surface.

>>1095062
We have automated lunar mining but we lack the lunar colony which would give us a near-earth base, completely secured from outside influence to construct many more space craft and automated factories.

I suggest this rather the other possible colony options, as it would take more modules to create a colony anywhere else, for far less reward as of this moment in time.

>>1095066
>>1095067
Alright.
Then it should be
>Use your automated base in Greenland to produce army assets or aerospace equipment.
Aerospace parts
>Do a space launch using parts you have built.
Manned mission to luna, 5 cabals
Replacing light spider tanks and half of arkship construction >>1094752
Is this adjustment good?

>>1095075
I can live with that.

>>1095079
Alright, it is decided.

Morning. I'll get involved in turn planning after this one.

>>1095010
Name #random assorted letters and numbers.

I'm back, glad I didn't see a turn go through yet. Catching up.

>>1095079
>>1095075

" ...I'm on the surface; and, as I take man's last step from the surface, back home for some time to come - but we believe not too long into the future - I'd like to just say what I believe history will record. That America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And, as we leave the Moon at Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and, God willing, as we shall return, with peace and hope for all mankind. "

Gene Cernan's words are a thousand years old, but they still resonate powerfully inside the cavernous hangar in Timbuktu. Jeb takes the microphone and concludes the speech to the assembled engineers and machinists.

"Clearly, God was not willing. Too bad for Him, I say. Our task is simple: before the year is out, we will send a crew to the Moon and back safely!"

There are a couple of whistles, and Jeb clarifies that by "a crew" he doesn't just mean himself. The tut-tutting is good natured, and after the short speech, everyone involved gets the heck right to work.

Much of the theoretical work has already been done, and launching capsules is a lot simpler than it used to be;

# nevertheless, you decide to "only" do two lunar missions, one Apollo style, and one Soyuz-style with a larger lander, just for safety.

# therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.

>>1095083
>>1095079

(So that's using >>1094752 for the other cabals, correct?)

>>1095096

thanks!

>>1095097
>2 landings, apollo and Soyuz-style.

>>1095097
>therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.

Yes.

By the way how many arkship parts have we built and how many have been launched and are in space?

>>1095097
# therefore, you figure the best thing to do if the first landing goes through without issues is to immediately begin work on a permanent base if the first lander works correctly.


Lives are valuable but at this point, time is far far more expensive.

>>1095101
Did we look in for our dwarf that went missing or anything?

>>1093347
Another idea.

4. Power armor using fishing line artificial muscle.
While it seems unnecessary since we have our heavy MEC's, power armor is still useful for regular humans and to create a better spacesuit.

>>1095122
I votes investigate so we should be.

The ship. We will name it the imperium Exitus

>>1095131
We already named it Reach, but I'm going to remember that name.

Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>1095117

There are 2 arkship parts in space; even though it's just an incomplete keel, it's by far the largest object sent to space in the history of humanity.

>>1095119
>>1095117
>>1095104

Time is of the essence; the lander and base will be developed concurrently. A hybrid design between Apollo 10 and Soyuz 8 will carry Jeb, Cordylon and a third astronaut, Kay, to the moon; there the crew will perform initial site survey for a colony site, which will be launched by a series of unmanned rockets immediately afterward. The crew will perform initial construction, plant the initial hydroponic greenhouse if at all possible, and then return home to allow the plants some time to grow.

(By the way, you have 3 more launches schedules to launch parts: are these for the moon colony, the arkship, or what?)

>>1095129

A cursory investigation indicates that the Night Citizen you have sent to the Temple has converted, and did not want to return home. You do receive photographic evidence, but no forensic evidence of this. However, it was NOT a "dwarf", just some random guy.

>>1095131

(I like it, other than the obvious "exit" pun, Exitus means Success. Good Latin there)

>>1095133

The ship has already been named, correct. Renaming a ship is horrible luck!

>>1095136
2 ark pieces, 1 for moon base.

>>1095136
Exitus means Success.
damn that's a good name.

The arkship if we have the parts.

>>1095146
>>1095142
Actually switch to this.

>>1095136
How many parts are we currently sitting on?

Rolled 98, 87, 43 = 228 (3d100)

>>1095136
(Wow, look at those dice)

>>1094752

Your R&D teams are given various projects; investigating multicopters, which results in a light drone platform which would be interesting if the batteries lasted more than five minutes (the nuclear powered version is about car-sized, has six rotors, and doesn't much like flying faster than 30km/h or so, but works well otherwise), flexible robotics, which has much better returns and yields heavy MEC chasses that look like extremely bulky people rather than something clearly mechanical much to Kat's amusement (what's a "hyper musclegirl" exactly, and why are your imageboards suddenly registering porn of it?), and examining your Hell nodes. Damien volunteers to be wired into the latter, with absolutely no result that can be told; your theologians examine TOL's material, and find that most of it rightfully belongs in the fiction section of a library. The only confirmed demon summoning since New Testament times was performed by Satan while indwelling the Antichrist; the three entities that were called forth had a limited ability to shapeshift, but no powers that would represent a significant asset; the Archangel Michael was able to get rid of all three of them essentially without a fight.

>>1095142

Timbuktu is a hub of traffic this year, enough so that space launches lose some of their mystique - but remain a reasonable tourist attraction for the southern Misray town. Maybe it's people working on moonbase and arkship systems; maybe it's the fact that Cordylon, wanting to go to the Moon to coordinate base construction by driving the rovers, wasn't at her usual post at the heart of the canopy station. Either way....

"Timbuktu, we have a problem!"

>>1095158
>The only confirmed demon summoning since New Testament times was performed by Satan while indwelling the Antichrist
That is what i want researched, see how he did it, if anything about it is similar with any of those books TOL sent us, make a successful demon summoning, then adjust it so we send things to hell.
Did the research not succeed because of the low roll?

>>1095158
Also why can't the nuclear powered drone fly any faster than 30km/h?

>>1095157

At this time, 3. You are building 3 more, and but you are currently scheduled to use 4 total, leaving you with 2 at the end of the year.


>>1095158

The research teams report excellent results; by the end of the sixth month, Heavy MECs have access to a "biomimetic" frame which is smaller, almost as strong, and lets them go through doorways. Multicopter technology is scaled up, which should allow your flexible infantry and vehicles to have attendant drones for backup and support.

The demon-summoning crew, however, get very little done: your Hell nodes have been broadcasting their message, but there has been no answer.

>>1095158

About sixty percent of the way towards the Moon, the capsule/lander developed a fault: a routine stirring of the liquid oxygen tanks turned dangerous as a short occurred, detonating that tank and leaking out most of the oxygen. Jeb acts quickly and makes sure that the explosion happens outward rather than inward by venting the tank, but this leaves the capsule without sufficient oxygen for the planned mission.

You run simulations of the problem and decide to

# kill off Kay, and leave the astronaut's MEC implant dormant, effectively putting Kay into an induced coma so as to drastically reduce oxygen consumption.

# abort the mission, and try again later in the year; this will make it impossible for the crew to begin construction, though, at least until next year, so you'll end up with a bunch of containers on the Moon rather than a deployed base.

# forge on: the oxygen for the return trip will be delivered with the base parts.


>>1095166

(It's a matter of aerodynamics, not raw power. If you can get a quadcopter of any significant weight to move precisely while it's tilted more than 20 degrees or so, Ames Research Center will probably give you a job. It's been driving them crazy since 2013)

>>1095164

Eyewitness accounts indicate that Satan had the demons emerge from Carpathia's mouth and quickly grow in size. However, this may have been an illusion: there is no video of the incident.

>>1095167
Offer the choice to Kay, either he can die now and the mission continues as "planned" or we can attempt one of the other two options. Explain to him what that would mean considering the time scale we are working on here.

Assuming he is willing, let him have his last few moments of being able to feel stuff and then end him.

If not either abort or send the oxygen with the parts, depending on what other anons want to do.

>>1095158
>>1095158
# abort the mission, and try again later in the year; this will make it impossible for the crew to begin construction, though, at least until next year, so you'll end up with a bunch of containers on the Moon rather than a deployed base.
>>1095167
Create a mouth like portal with the angel meat we have locked up. Try and use that.

>>1095167
>Forge onwards

Quick, Nasa we need an air filtertion system out of what is on the ship. We Apollo now.

>>1095167
>It's a matter of aerodynamics, not raw power.
Really? Cause the X-jet could do 97Km/h and it's a cylinder with a person on top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXNNc_HFodI

>>1095167
>Offer Kay the option to be rendered Dormant with a MEC implant, if she refuses abort the mission.
>>1095180
>Create a mouth like portal with the angel meat we have locked up. Try and use that.
That's a good idea, do this.

Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>1095186

While the situation is indeed reminiscent of Apollo 13, your engineers have taken heed of that historical lesson and all the equipment on the lander/capsule is modular and cross-compatible... which is why it is possible for the crew to choose something other than abort.

>>1095193
>>1095180
>>1095176
Kay has discussed the MEC condition with Cordylon during training, and does not find it appealing at all. "I will do it if it saves a crewmate, of course, but... if it only costs us a few months of extra work? Is it worth it? I'm 82, I have a few years to go with full use of my body."

"The world ends in 28 years, we have no time to waste!"

"Nobody can ask you more than what you are willing to give. And it's important that we come back unscathed, or nobody will want to board the next capsule."

# Pressure Kay to die.

# Pressure Kay to die, and keep the problem secret to avoid PR fallout.

# Abort lunar mission and try again later.

# Try to send an extra oxygen tank with the supplies.

>>1095189

Okay, fine.

>>1095180
>>1095193


Cultivating the tissue takes the better part of the year, but you end up with a reasonable facsimile of a jaw. The team takes the methodical approach and attempts to use it in every ritual that they can find.