Grassy plains probably, with some rolling hills.

>>1169805
With lava fucking everywhere

>>1169860
+1

>>1169860
+1

>>1169860
+1

>>1169860

This

>>1169860
>>1169872
>>1169880
>>1169884
>>1169913
Alright, grassy plains with rolling hills it is, update being written.

Be forewarned that this will end up being significantly more deadly than its sounds.

>>1169918
>grassy plains with rolling hills

The Firey Expanse is the largest open area on Sadla’s surface, excepting a dash of hills here and there. The name is relatively self-explanatory when one encounters it’s native wildlife: the Mawtusk, an example of the rather uncreative Saiyan system of naming things. The Mawtusk does indeed have a giant maw, and large tusks, though they are somewhat larger on the males of the species. These creatures are essentially giant elephantine carnivores sporting fire-spouting trunks, resulting in regular accidental brush fires. This phenomenon is what gives the Firey Expanse its name.

The tribe lives on the western edge of the Expanse, in a small hilly area separating the Expanse from the volcanic ring surrounding it. It is a fertile area, and well-populated, making the tribe only one of many. The area makes a great staging ground for Mawtusk hunts further inland, as other prey animals have had their numbers thinned exponentially. Most popular methods of killing them require extreme brutality as well, making it a pleasant pastime, particularly for the children.

Life at the edge of the Firey Expanse is not easy, however. The other tribes constantly perform raids on one another, both to capture slaves and for entertainment. Agriculture demands that all tribes have a large workforce, as the idea of a member of their own tribe lowering themselves to the point of growing plants for a living is so disturbing that it usually prompts multiple murders if even suggested. Our tribe also has a number of slaves, almost all of which are used for sustenance, in one way or another.

Of course, we can hardly follow our erstwhile hero-well, we can hardly follow are erstwhile villains without their name, can we?

>What is the name of the tribe?

>>1169974
Tusk Monkeys

>>1169974

Crimson Tails

>>1169974
>Crimson Tails

>>1169980
>>1169988

Come on guys, you can do harder than that.

Let's go with something traditional.
Something having to do with vegetables

>>1169974
Zelleris

>>1169995
>>1170004

What about... The Crimson Zelleris tribe?

>>1170004
Switching.

>>1170009

Ma monkoy!

>>1169805
Shouldn't the prey animals start making a comeback if Saiyan population numbers tanked?

>>1170023
Most of them are extinct. The Saiyans themselves have only had agriculture for a few years now. Mawtusks and other similar animals were too difficult to hunt to extinction, so they are around. The animals who had their numbers 'thinned exponentially' rather than totally obliterated have not had enough time to make their comeback because the Saiyans managed to destroy their own numbers in a remarkably short period of time, about 60% of all Saiyans on Salda died in roughly 10 years.

>>1170009
Alright, we'll go with this compromise. Next update already being written, it should be posted shortly alongside a pastebin containing further details about the tribe.

>>1169805
https://youtu.be/ZmVuNlu0LCk

>>1170059
>Crimson Zelleri Tribe

>Population: 450 Total
>150 Adult Males
>150 Adult Females
>50 Children
>100 Slaves

>Division of Labor:
>300 Hunter-Gatherers
>100 Slave-Farmers

>System of Government:
>Tribal Anarchism: Whoever is the strongest member of the tribe around at that given moment usually calls the shots. The tribe is too disorganized for more advanced forms of government without significant changes in it's societal development.

>Technology:
>Clothing
>Basic Tools and Weapons
>Agriculture

All of this information will be stored, updated, and expanded upon in this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ZNasYH5k

Ah, yes, the Crimson Zelleris. Named after a species of exploding red leafy plant common in the hills, the title is often considered a reference to their fierce temper and tendency to literally explode things.

There are many problems that face the tribe. The first is the problem of government; namely, the lack thereof. There is effectively no government except a basic, unspoken agreement not to kill each other for sport or food and grudging respect for the most powerful members of the tribe. Unlike other tribal cultures there is almost no respect for the elderly in general, however those few Saiyans who last long enough to be counted as such fall into the category of the most powerful members of the tribe, and thus do receive a modicum more influence than others. Individual Saiyans will gather together to go on hunts or raids, with no one to oversee or manage this process. Perhaps a more orderly society would be best? The question remains as to who could knock enough heads together to accomplish that.

Another issue is the food shortage. As most of the slaves were eaten until recently there aren’t enough of them to manage the level of agricultural production to feed every member of the tribe. New raids will have to be conducted soon to ensure a steady supply, as well as to become familiarized to those tribes who survived the days of extreme cannibalism. A lot of them have been wiped out or absorbed into other tribes, so it’s imperative that our own tribe observe the lay of the landscape. Or, as a Saiyan would put it, you have to know who’s ass will need a kicking.

Lastly, the population crisis. A low number of children have been born in recent years due to the cannibalism; some mothers actually devoured their own children in the worst days of such. Others simply didn’t choose to have them because of the harsh circumstances, or let them starve to death in favor of their own lives. Saiyan society has no concept of romance, so most relationships are brief and casual, and children are raised communally. This reality means that most have no attachment to the youth, being too short-sighted to see the necessity of the next generation. Every young Saiyan sees themselves as immortal, after all. Still, can something be done to improve the rate of baby-making among the tribe?

>What should we do?

>>1170077

> Food shortage

Before we can get more kids, or even a proper "government", we will need a way to improve food production.

One way would be to improve the soil, or by keeping animals which can produce food.

One way or another, more food opens more possibilities.

Three-field system could also help.

>>1170077
One woman gets mounted by several suitors who have to fight each other and then the woman. This will cull the weak and produce the strong.

>>1170105

Is it a good way to cull the grown?
Especially right now?

A better way would be a trial for kids growing into adults.

That way, we won't lose any troops we have right now.
Those who fail to come into adulthood will not be missed.
Women should also compete, it's a warrior race after all.
Everyone has to fight.

>>1170103
>>1170077
This
>>1170105
We're at low numbers.

>>1170111
And we have a surplus of men.

>>1170077
Lets send out scouts to find the location of other tribes. Then attack the weakest one and take all of their people as slaves. This solves the food problem and will give the men women to breed solving the population issue.

>>1170114
And we need to compete against other tribes. Losing them won't help.

>>1170114

We could go into war with rivaling tribes.
That way they die a useful death.

How about making this tribe an amazonian tribe?

>>1170118
No.

>>1170103
Supporting this.
Since Saiyans love meat we should focus on shepherding.
There's grass practically everywhere.
The problem is the herd would have to be guarded from predators and other Saiyans.

>>1170121
Or just capture more Saiyans and use them to crow crops and be food when we need it.

>>1170123
The problem with that is that we will also need to feed those slave saiyans to keep them alive thus raising our tribe's food requirement.

>>1170123
Eating them was the cause of the food shortage.

>>1170125
Who said we feed them well? And if they die we just eat them.

>>1170129
Because we didn't know how to grow crops at that time, now that we do it shouldn't be as big of an issue.

>>1170130
They won't last long enough for them to make any significant work for us, especially in our current situation.

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>>1170118
Yes, either that or /ss/mad lads.

>>1170137
Well, eating the farmers is going to cause another food shortage. I don't know why you think it's a good idea to eat the help.

>>1170144
Because we have farming now we shouldn't need to eat the farmers, I'm saying if they did die though we can just eat them for extra food.

>>1170144
https://youtu.be/fibDNwF8bjs

>>1170147
If they don't eat then they die even before the first sprout grows. Also, going to run out of slaves at that rate.

>>1170155
We feed them, just not as much as our soldiers. When we have enough slaves to feed our warriors then we can spend time improving our farming techniques, which would require time.

I'd say we burn the bridge once we cross it.

Let's see how keeping kettle turns out.

>>1170123
>>1170125
>>1170129
>>1170130
>>1170137
>>1170139
>>1170144
>>1170147
>>1170152
>>1170155
>>1170161
https://youtu.be/cLts-sXlLEM

Alright, so I believe that current consensus is nonexistent, so let's narrow it down from some of these suggestions. What should be our first course of action. Should we:

>Scout out new tribes for slaving raids?
or
>Try to find a more efficient way of farming?
or
>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat?
or
>Implement "the strong breed the weak" as a breeding tradition?

>>1170198

>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat?

We need more meats because saiyans eat a LOT. We need to find some animals that are easy to breed and handling.

>>1170198
>Try to find a more efficient way of farming?

>>1170198
>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat.

and also:
>Implement "the strong breed the weak" as a breeding tradition.
If I remember my DBZ lore correctly, saiyans become stronger as they survive and recover from major injury.

>>1170198
Changing >>1170216 to
>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat?

>>1170198
>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat?
Though, we still need good feed for them.

>>1170229
Grass.
That's the most abundant resource we have right now.
Saiyans don't eat grass.
We will need to domesticate grass eating animals.

>>1170198
>>Implement "the strong breed the weak" as a breeding tradition?

Ok, looks like most people want either

>Attempt to domesticate animals for meat
or
>Implement "the strong breed the weak" as a breeding tradition

So we'll just do both at the same time. Update incoming.

Next turn lets set up a might based tribe with the strongest male at the top.

>>1170249
Isn't that system already in place?

>>1170252
Nah it seems to be an anarchy with no set ruler

>>1170254

I think we need to form a fighting tournament to decide who will be the ruler of the tribe. The winner of the tournament will become the ruler of the tribe.

>>1170249
Sounds good to me.
Let's have an official top monkey chieftain.
Maybe we can also have a "duel for leadership" type of annual event so we will not have to defend the crown constantly and interrupting the current regime.

So what should we do with other tribe leaders once we take over their tribe? They might be too strong to let live and would only end up causing rebellions.

A young member of the tribe, a relatively weak male by the name of Sproute, has returned, heavily injured, from a hunting trip. Apparently he had set out alone to find the den of a Stalker, a very large and very ferocious beast that stealthily preys on the wildlife in the Firey Expanse. When they mate, they return to the hills where they were born and build dens, just as they have for generations. They are muscular enough that even a Saiyan can have trouble with one, prompting some to ask Sproute why he even bothered trying to defeat one alone. He chose to tell his tale as he was busy skinning the carcass of his kill.

Apparently he had been offered a bet by a female by the name of Arugula. The terms were that he should bring her the head of an adult Stalker, one that he himself had killed without any other’s aid, and in return she would show him a good time when he returned to the tribe. Having succeeded in his effort and brandishing the whole corpse of a Stalker, he was naturally quite eager to take her up on it now. Unfortunately for him, he was not the only one who had heard of this bet.
Just as Sproute was preparing to mount Arugula (in public, of course, so as to really rub in his victory), he was shoved aside by Kale, another male just returning who had also brought in a Stalker’s head. While Sproute was reeling from the blow, the much larger Kale proceeded to smash his head in with his bare hands. Laughing uproariously at the whole thing, Kale went on to take Sproute’s place in the mounting. The entire tribe agreed that it was very good entertainment.

It was of course even more entertaining when Sproute’s father, an older Saiyan by the name of Tomato, ripped off both of Kale’s arms even as he was still distracted by all the fun he was having. Angered by the loss of his son, he decided to try for a replacement, which in turn angered his own prior mate, Sproute’s mother Okra, who ripped his heart out and ate it just as he was distracted by all the fun he was having.
As a result, no one is quite sure if Arugula’s new child is Kale’s or Tomato’s, but most people are guessing Tomato’s, as he was clearly the stronger of the two. Coincidentally, Okra herself is now also pregnant once more, but only after killing seven initial suitors. There are now ten less men in the tribe, but hopes remain very strong for the next generation of Saiyans, as the whole display has resulted in a cavalcade of similarly violent though significantly less deadly spats over females.

>Continues in next post

>>1170296
Also quite entertaining was the death of several slaves attempting to catch Belchers, a curious species of horned herbivores that feed on Crimson Zelleris, allowing them to ‘belch’ out flames. After a few explosive mishaps a few were captured and eaten, but one tribes-member had the brilliant idea of keeping a few alive so the tribe would always have some on hand. A few others had been captures, giving a total of twenty-five in the tribe now. Because they feed on Crimson Zelleris, they often have to range far from the tribal grounds to feed, prompting concern by some that they might be stolen by other hungry tribes. Five slaves died in attempts to capture Belchers.

>What should we do now?

>Population:
>140 Adult Males
>150 Adult Females
>50 Children (Increasing +10 per turn)
>95 Slaves

>>1170302
Hold a nonlethal tournament to decide who the strongest is and make him the tribe leader

>>1170296
>>1170302

Holy fucking shit!!!

We need to make some fucking laws otherwise it will go out of hand!

We must have law about not killing each except as last resort.

>>1170308
Before fort that to happen, we're going to need a leader to enforce those laws. And I don't think many will take kindly with rules.

>>1170308
No, that breeds weakness if the weak want to fight the strong let them. If they die then so what they should have been stronger.

>>1170307
This

>>1170318

But...
If the weak get beaten enough, they become the strong.

I propose a proper tournament, with blood, sweat and tears...
But no killing.

And, as already mentioned, a way to cull the weaker childs, by trial. (Or child-tournaments)

>>1170316

True we need leader first before putting laws.

>>1170318

True we need strong warrior BUT they need some freaking common senses too otherwise they will die out very quickly.

>>1170308
see >>1170316

There are no laws without someone to enforce them.

>>1170347

Let's hope for a smart leader (be it male or female) who can set rules.

It's to soon for a collective leadership, isn't it?

>>1170369
Collective leadership is shit especially for tribes

>>1170369
That's a little advance and I doubt a warrior race would like that. Strength is the truth.

Consensus seems to be non-lethal leadership tournament. Update being written

>>1170369
With a bit more development a primitive stratocracy (basically military rule) could be achieved, but as for most other forms of collective government, it would be very difficult. Regardless only tribal governments are possible right now.

>>1170378
>>1170380
These guys have the right idea. Collective leadership is rather rare in tribes that don't just have basic elder leadership. Except if it's Iroquois Confedracy type of collective leadership, but that's hard to achieve for Saiyans

For people that break laws we can cut their tales off, make them eat it, then put them to work in the fields.

>>1170395
Sounds good to me

>>1170395

ah, right.

We gotta harness big ape powers ASAP.

Some of the more powerful members of the tribe decide to have a little competition. It all started when Arugula, still recovering from the birth of her child, made yet another wager. She basically promised that she’d be the mate of whomever was the strongest in the entire tribe. At the time, Okra had laughed and remarked that, even as pregnant as she was, she was still in the strongest hunter in the village, complicating the whole ‘mate’ matter. Her newer mate, Avocado, having already bested her in combat once before, decided to make her amend that statement by kicking her in the back of the head. To her credit, Okra took the blow quite well and retaliated with a punch to his groin. Shortly thereafter another hunter, Artichoke, broke up the ensuing fight.

“Hold on, that Arugula lass just gave me a good idea,” he said. “Why don’t we go and get all of the strongest in the tribe and have them fight? Then we’ll know for sure who’s the strongest!”

(It should be noted that ‘the strongest’ would naturally then be in charge of the whole tribe.)

All in all, eight candidates for the title are assembled:

>Okra, female. Currently pregnant, not that it’s going to stop her. In her mid-thirties, short tempered, and very bloodthirsty even by Saiyan standards. Is sure to be a war-like chieftess.

>Avocado, male. Okra’s new mate, replacing Tomato. Not even out of his teens yet, he’s a young hot-head with a lot to prove. Prideful and eager to excel.

>Artichoke, male. Old by Saiyan standards, he’s in his forties. Wise and cautious, once again by Saiyan standards. He’s lived through some tough times and has the scars to show for it.

>Zelleri, female. A tremendously uncreative name by any means, also has crimson hair. In her twenties, fierce, and clever. Her small size has forced her to compensate with brutal cunning.

>Potato, male. Tomato’s very large brother. Relies on brute strength and size in battle. In addition to wanting to prove himself as the strongest, also wants to kill Okra, though he’ll avoid doing so in the tournament. Afterwards, though…

>Cauli, female. Huge for a female, standing at a full six feet in height and quite muscular. In her thirties, she’s one of the most experienced hunters the tribe has to offer, and is an expert on nature in general.

>Cumber, male. A young serial polygamist. On the bright side, no lack of heirs, on the minus side, way too many heirs. Part of appeal of being the strongest is that it’ll help him with the ladies, but of course, being a Saiyan, he’s no stranger to general battle-lust in addition to his normal lust.

>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.

>Who wins?

>>1170487
>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.

>>1170487
>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.
That ki trait is enough to convince me.

>>1170487
>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.
If it weren't for the ki control, I would be against this guy.

>>1170487
>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.

The sayan hippie

>>1170487
>Zelleri, female. A tremendously uncreative name by any means, also has crimson hair. In her twenties, fierce, and clever. Her small size has forced her to compensate with brutal cunning
wiz needz dat brutal cunning N dat cunning brutality to stomp all da other tribz.

>>1170487
>>Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. The other competitors are unhappy with the thought of such a rampant sociopath achieving victory in the tournament, but Turnip’s learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki.
After he unlocks ki for the tribe replace him with a real warrior

Turnip it is, then, writing.

>>1170510
I was hoping someone would get it, sorry she didn't win though

>>1170487
>>1170494
>>1170495
>>1170497
>>1170503

I like to go with Artichoke, I'm unsure Turnip right person to lead the tribe despite knowing ki. Worst case he will be killed by more aggressive saiyan who learned ki from him.

>>1170517
Thats what I'm hoping for, I don't think anyone here wants to be a peaceful tribe or the good guys

>>1170520
>Not using our "peaceful" leader as a disguise to trick others
Baka desu.

>>1170517
>Worst case he will be killed by more aggressive saiyan who learned ki from him.

Genau wie plannen!

For those that might be concerned about Turnip's purported peacefulness, don't be, he's a rampant sociopath and that will quickly become apparent.

>>1170515
well from the way things are sound turnip isn't going to live that long.

From what people are saying they're hoping he can teach the next generation a few things that will help the tribe that will stick around after someone offs him like a better government structure, and ki powers, but fail to realize that whoever kill might be an idiot that banishes this teachings as to move away from the teachings of a mad man and would actually cripple us instead of picking another leader and forcing Turnip to teach the clean how he does his witchcraft.

Then again I like overthinking things so I'm sure I'm just talking out my ass.

Guys, FM said Turnip likes peace but is also insane so all we know he wants peace within the tribe while loving to slaughter someone outside of the tribe.

The reactions to Turnip winning ranged from utter shock and disbelief to utter hatred and anger. Utterances of both sorts of uttered reactions were quite common, and several fights broke out among the lower warriors. Turnip’s first action as Chieftain of the Crimson Zelleris was to declare that he would not and would never cavort with Arugula, as previous experience would prove that an un-wise decision. He also considered building a wall and making the Mawtusks pay for it (by using their carcasses as raw materials), but chose to shelve that idea temporarily.

One object of curiosity was Turnip’s unusual method of fighting. Most Saiyans channeled ki inwardly, empowering their muscles in order to achieve ungodly levels of strength and power. To win his battles, however, Turnip had channeled it outwardly, creating strange little globules of energy he referred to as ‘ki blasts’. Interest in these blasts rose now that they had proven their usefulness, and Turnip was happy to teach from others.

Of course, this resulted in bit of an incident. Okra had insulted the new chief and his cowardly blasts, right in front of the whole tribe. This led to Turnip going on a long-winded speech about the nature of power dynamics and the social contract, then using a ki blast to smash open her stomach. After eating the partially-developed fetus in front of her as a form of chastisement, he launched into another long-winded speech about the ethical dilemma of abortion, and how it relates to the intricate interplay between classical morality and the natural callousness of the Saiyan species.

Avocado, quite angered at the whole display, attempted to punch him partway through the second speech, only to have his leg crippled by an oncoming ki blast. This prompted a long-winded speech about the need for greater medical technology so as to minimize the amount of death or crippling injury present by nature in all primitive societies, which then elegantly segued into a humorous diatribe about the realities of damage to the two articulations connecting the femur to the tibiofemoral joint and the patellofemoral joint.

Thankfully both Okra and Avocado survived the ordeal, and a full year since the Crimson Zelleris achieved agriculture, they now have a surprisingly popular, if still very strange Chieftain.

>What should the tribe do now?

>Population:
>140 Adult Males
>150 Adult Females
>59 Children (+10 per turn, -1 this turn because of Okra's dead infant)
>95 Slaves
>Belchers 35 (Domesticated, +10 per turn)

(HA, and you thought I was joking about him being a rampant sociopath)

>>1170597
Dark but effective

>>1170597
You know how we have a tournament to determine who's strongest?

Let's have a tournament to determine everyone's place. So that even the weakest know who's slightly less weak, and slightly more weak.

And by tournament I mean a big free for all.

Try to be nonlethal of course. All in good fun.

Come to think of it, can we somehow cultivate a societal image of NONlethal combat being fun to participate in?

Maybe invent some sport. Sport involving lots of combat. Nonlethal combat.

>>1170631

How about rugby/american football/blood bowl? It also make you learn teamwork.

>>1170597
so should we focus on making even more powerful ki attacks or should we focus on making better weapons and tools and then figuring out how to use the body's ki to supercharge them as well?

>>1170639
Better Ki attacks since that so much stronger than weapons

>>1170638
That sounds like a good idea.
Can the Ball explode when thrown?
That would be great fun

That way we could have some kind of Sports Tournament.

Also as an aside your government type has changed to:

>Tribal Chiefdom: The Chief, currently Chief Turnip, rules the tribe by right of being its strongest warrior. His power can enforce rules that otherwise would be difficult to enforce.

And your technology has been updated to include basic ki blasts

>>1170652
Work on improving Ki blasts and bulding up our numbers

>>1170652
This is fucking adorable by the way, Is the whole normal, Get really fucked but survive Syian thing a thing in this?

>>1170652
Fuck yeah.

With these new weapons, we'll be able to hunt Mawtusks / other tribes / escaped slaves more efficiently!

>>1170597
Huh. And here I thought he was a total monk-like hippie. Going with this >>1170631

>>1170655
Zenkai is still a thing here, yes. The problem is that most fights end in death rather than near death.

For those who are curious, the estimated power level of Turnip is about 350, and average power level tribe-wide is about 100. Most of the more powerful warriors are in the +200 range. Everyone's power level will be going up with the discovery of ki blasts, especially as its usage becomes more complex.

>>1170681
He is, by Saiyan standards. He left both Okra and Avocado alive, when he could have murdered both of them. All he did was kill the baby, and that can be replaced.

Also I must leave for about an hour but when I'm back I'll write the next update.

>>1170721
That's ok, I'm sleepy anyway.

>>1170721
Thanks for running. Interesting quest.

>>1170721
i'll be here, WE really need non-leathal training.

>>1170597
>Okra and Avocado survived the ordeal

Fuck damn thats brutal.

Alright, I'll be leaving as soon as I post this next update.
>Tournaments for the weaklings
>Building up our numbers
>Improving ki blasts
And a few other miscellaneous things will be in it

>>1170810
Inspired by the tournament of the most powerful hunters, the tribe at large has decided to begin regular competitions of such non-lethal combat, accidentally creating a hierarchy of strength within the tribe. These tournaments are supported by Chief Turnip, who recognizes the advantage that regular combat training might have for the strength of the tribe as a whole. In addition to this, Turnip’s instruction in the art of ki blasts has earned him quite a few admirers, to the point where he is considering taking a mate. It is unlikely any female in the tribe will refuse him, as the strongest in the tribe. (All of the previously mentioned females are options, even Okra, though that might be a bad idea)

Chief Turnip himself has tried to experiment with more advanced forms of ki control, to maintain his advantage over the rest of the tribe. He saw some success, managing to focus a ki blast into a continuous, though quite unstable, cylindrical beam. This basic ‘ki beam’ is more powerful than a normal ki blast, but slow to charge and fire. It could do with some more improvement.

Another dilemma has presented itself to the Chief. With some of the older children in the tribe starting to reach adulthood, some of the hunters are suggesting that they go through some sort of initiation rite to ensure their usefulness as adults. It’s up to Turnip to come up with something, though, as they would never dare presume to make that determination without his approval, lest they find their infants devoured. As Turnip ponders this, he also begins to encourage more mating. While it’s difficult to ensure more children considering the brutal mating tradition, it does get a few more babies born than normal.

However, stranger happenings are on the horizon. A group of refugees from a nearby tribe, calling themselves the Bloodhounds, arrived in our tribe. Apparently their village was set upon by a savage tribe known as the Dragonclaws, who burned their domain to the ground. Most of the females were stolen, and the males and children butchered. The survivors are made up of those who were able to escape the devastation, composed of the elders and a few of the uglier females. All in all their tale was fairly entertaining, though a little dry, leaving some of the more excitable tribe members disappointed. Nonetheless, something must be done about them, and perhaps one day these Dragonclaws, too…

>Enslave the Bloodhounds

>Murder the Bloodhounds

>Accept the Bloodhounds as tribesmen

And also

>What does Chief Turnip do next?

>Population:
>140 Adult Males
>150 Adult Females
>69 Children (+15 per turn)
>95 Slaves
>45 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)

Right then see you in an hour, I'll be back by then

>>1170821
>wat do bloodhounds?
have them fight the slaves. If they beat the slave and prove their strength they're in if they lose to the slave the slave moves up and joins our tribe and the bloodhound becomes a slave. Non-lethal fights because if they kill a slave they have to replace the slave and if the slave kills they will be killed and then feed to the other bloodhounds as an apolgy. this way we keep the week farming and making us food and keep the strong in the tribe.

>wat do Chief Turnip?
Turnip should also find a wife, someone who can run the tribe should he ever need to leave. then he should leave the tribe in her care while he goes and tries to find more powerful ki and fighting technics to make himself and the tribe stronger.

>>1170821
>Enslave the Bloodhounds
They are the worst of their tribe and would degrade the quality of the Crimson tribe if allowed to mingle with them.

>>1170894
>>1170821
+1

>>1170894
>if they lose to the slave the slave moves up and joins our tribe
It's no impressive feat for a slave to beat a slave. It is only impressive if they beat one of the Crimson.

>>1170920
seeing as we're building a caste system more or less based off strength I figured it might be a good idea to place the idea in earlier that people can move up in the caste should they earn it. That way in the future should we ever have a someone useful to the tribe be born in a lower caste they won't be wasted there.

>>1170894
>>1170901
+1

>>1170894
Supporting

>>1170939
I just disagree that beating another slave in combat proves that they have earned it.
They should be allowed to challenge a member of our tribe to combat, gaining freedom that way.

>>1170999
well seeing all the tournaments we're having lately maybe when we start raiding other tribes and start getting a influx of slaves or even let them start breading we could hold an annal tournament for them to fight for their freedom? Were they fight until only a handful of them are left and then have them fight some random warrior from our tribe to see if they can't best them. I'm just spit balling ideas here, feel free to toss your own in as well.

>>1171019
oh and by random warrior from our tribe I meant each slave fights a different warrior. That way we can get more then one tribe member every tournament.

>>1171019
I like it, only because of how fucking brutal it sounds.

>>1171019
>>1171028
or should we do something more like the pit from fallout 3 where the first match is slaves fighting slaves then have a few rounds where we have them fight some wildlife our hunters caught, then some warriors from our tribe, and then the champion. then only after besting all those challenges they can become a full member of the tribe.

Oh crap I also remembered something else we need to vote on, what do we do with the kids reaching adulthood?

Have them venture out into the wilds and tell them not to come back unless they kill something or find something useful for the tribe? like the body of a slain beast, or the head of a dead rival tribe member, or some kind of useful information or technic that will make the tribe stronger like a new fighting style or blacksmithing or something like that? These sound good or anyone else got some ideas?

>>1171085
A little of this and a little that. While slaying big beasts and strong opponents are a must, new knowledge is important, too.

Alright I'm back. Narrowing down the options, we have:
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight slaves to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)
or
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)

Also, you have to decide on an initiation ritual for adulthood, or simple set a certain age if you don't want there to be a ritual, though I doubt that'd be something a lot of people want.

>Initiation to adulthood?

Also, updated the pastebin, will post most of the new stuff here to show what we've accomplished so far.

>>1171115
Crimson Zelleri Tribe

Population: 454 Saiyans Total
>140 Adult Males
>150 Adult Females
>69 Children (+15 per turn)
>95 Slaves
>45 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)

Division of Labor:
>290 Hunter-Gatherers
>95 Slave-Farmers
>45 Domesticated Animals

System of Government:
>Tribal Chiefdom: The Chief, currently Chief Turnip, rules the tribe by right of being its strongest warrior. His power can enforce rules that otherwise would be difficult to enforce.
>Internal Hierarchy: The hunters are ranked by strength, with the more powerful automatically being in charge of their lessers.
>Chief Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. Considered to be a rampant sociopath, he nonetheless learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki, giving him victory in the leadership tournament. Power level of 350.

Tribal Traditions:
>Mating Tradition (The Strongest Breed): Violent contests decide who gets to mate with whom, limiting population growth but increasing the strength of the next generation.
>Slavery: Raids on enemy tribes procure slaves for the tribe.
>Tournaments: Regular violent sporting competitions are held to re-affirm the position of each individual member of the tribe.

Technology:
>Clothing
>Basic Tools and Weapons
>Agriculture
>Domestication
>Basic Ki Blasts
>Basic Ki Beams

>>1171115
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)
Non-lethally, of course. Don't want to kill potential slaves/tribesmen

>Initiation
They have to go out and only return when they bring something of value to the tribe. What is "valuable" is determined by Turnip.

>>1171115
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)

1. They must display basic ki blast ability.
2. They will be set against a group of armed slaves in a makeshift arena, where they will have to defeat them.

>>1171133
>>1171135
I'll go with this.

>>1171115
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)
eh this sounds like a better way to get stronger tribes man. Still try to encourage the no killing rule as if we kill all the bloodhounds then we don't get any new slaves. Although I do feel that it shouldn't be as enforced as I said it would be if they were fighting slaves since the whole thing with the slave fighting was to insure we came out with a net gain instead of a loss.

>>1171115
>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)

>Initiation to adulthood?
This. >>1171085
We Spartan now.

Alright, consensus appears to be

>Force the surviving Bloodhounds to fight tribe members to earn a place in the tribe (Any who refuse to fight will be enslaved by default)
>They have to go out and only return when they bring something of value to the tribe. What is "valuable" is determined by Turnip.

Writing update now

>>1171133
This is really Saiyan, but also has potential for the future. I like it.

We should be thinking about forming slave raids. If our strength is Strength but our weakness is numbers, then collecting slaves will offset this.

What are our current Hunter-Gatherer's tactics? How effective are they at hunting Mawtusks?

If we can have our Hunter-Gatherers spot a Mawtusk without the Mawtusk seeing them, wait to charge up a Basic Ki Beam, then unleash their Ki Beams all at once on the Mawtusk, we'll have a pretty strong advantage.

Maybe we can even hunt the Mawtusk to extinction.

>>1171133
We might want to consider finding some way to replace turnip. The short term boost we got from ki blasts is great but the long term effects of having someone completely insane running our tribe could be devastating. Maybe have Artichoke and/or Zellari stage some sort of coup or assassination.

>>1171245
Why hunt them to extinction? Force them to become pets or some shit. Or use them as tests for those who wish to join us.

>>1171265
Who was that girl that was brutally cunning?
Zelleri.
Some brutal cunning might go a long way.

>>1171265
>>1171275
Boo.

>>1171275
>>1171281
>>1171265
Should we breed Brutal Cunning with Crazy tendency's for future warrior king?

>>1171289
I did suggest turnip take a wife

>>1171245
>>1171269
Or we could use them as mounts or hunting companions.

>>1171294
Mounts.
that's a good idea.

But how are we gonna start the idea of getting up on the Hydra's back and making it go where you want it to go?

Turnip should take Zelleri as a mate.

>>1171289
>>1171292
I don't really think that breeding more insanity would be a good idea, though it would be a good use of cunning to get close to him and then stab him in the back. Maybe also implement a sort of royal advisor as I think that artichokes wisdom could be fairly useful.

>>1171206
The Bloodhound refugees are forced to either fight Crimson Zelleri tribesmen for their freedom or submit to slavery. To their credit, none of them submit to slavery without a fight. Ten new tribe members and twenty new slaves are added to the tribe’s numbers, bolstering them quite significantly. Though the refugees are not the only new hunters to be welcomed into the Zelleris.

The addition of an initiation process allows a fair number of children to becomes adults. Usually, they bring the pelts of strong animals, though a few bring more thoughtful gifts. One in particular caught Chief Turnip’s attention: a new hunter by the name of Parsnip had managed to capture a pair of Stalker cubs, alive. Considering the previous success domesticating the Belchers, there is a possibility that they can be tamed, but it may take a while due to their inherently standoffish nature. Additionally, the lack of a separate food source means that they will have to live off the tribe’s meat.

>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
or
>Kill the Cubs for Meat

Also

>What should Chief Turnip do?

Population: 514 Saiyans Total
>150 Adult Males (+5 per turn)
>165 Adult Females (+5 per turn)
>84 Children (+15 per turn)
>115 Slaves
>55 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)

>>1171305
Hitting it really hard, and beating it into submission? Or feed it the meat of the unworthy like humans did with wolves?

>>1171306
>>1171292
Fuck it, Lets get Small titted Zelleri and crazied leader to mate.

>>1171305
We could make it the initiation ceremony that was talked about, beating and enslaving what was once considered one of the strongest beasts.

>>1171318
>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
>>1171323
Use the stick and carrot method

>>1171318
>>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
>Also
>>What should Chief Turnip do?
Fuck Zellari

For the sake of reference, besides Chief Turnip here are the 8 most powerful hunters:

>1. Artichoke, male. Old by Saiyan standards, he’s in his forties. Wise and cautious, once again by Saiyan standards. He’s lived through some tough times and has the scars to show for it. Power level of 340.

>2. Avocado, male. Okra’s new mate, replacing Tomato. Not even out of his teens yet, he’s a young hot-head with a lot to prove. Prideful and eager to excel. Power level of 320.

>3. Okra, female. In her mid-thirties, short tempered, and very bloodthirsty even by Saiyan standards. Tomato's former mate, Avocado's current mate. Power level of 300.

>4. Zelleri, female. A tremendously uncreative name by any means, also has crimson hair. In her twenties, fierce, and clever. Her small size has forced her to compensate with brutal cunning. Power level of 280.

>5. Cauli, female. Huge for a female, standing at a full six feet in height and quite muscular. In her thirties, she’s one of the most experienced hunters the tribe has to offer, and is an expert on nature in general. Power level of 270.

>6. Potato, male. Tomato’s very large brother. Relies on brute strength and size in battle. In addition to wanting to prove himself as the strongest, also wants to kill Okra. Power level of 250.

>7. Cumber, male. A young serial polygamist. On the bright side, no lack of heirs, on the minus side, way too many heirs. Part of appeal of being the strongest is that it’ll help him with the ladies, but of course, being a Saiyan, he’s no stranger to general battle-lust in addition to his normal lust. Power level of 240.

>8. Parsnip, male. An up and coming hunter who gave the thoughtful gift of a potential domesticate for his initiation ritual. Intelligent, and relatively strong, though the weakest of the most powerful hunters. Power level of 220.

Any other potential rulers or consorts for Turnip will come out of this list, which is in the pastebin http://pastebin.com/ZNasYH5k for the sake of future reference

>>1171318
>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
fuck yeah

>turnip do
gather some hunters and scout the land for rival tribes then plan on how to destroy them.

>>1171318
>Kill the Cubs for Meat

>>1171318
Organise slave raids
Have the tribes hunt Mawtusks. See if any can be forced to act as mounts for our warriors.

>>1171323
Seconding having Zelleri breed Turnip

>>1171318
>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers

>Chief Turnip must fuck the Zelleri and breed a powerful child.

>>1171353
This

>>1171343
Turnip mating Zellari seems to be pretty hard set at this point so not gonna fight against that, though I still think it would be a good idea to put Artichoke in a sort of advisory position.

>>1171376
>though I still think it would be a good idea to put Artichoke in a sort of advisory position.
I'll second this, but we have to make sure he can't stab us in the back.

>>1171376
he kind of is seeing how strong he is and in this tribe the strong rule.

So it appears the consensus is

>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
>Make Zelleri Chief Turnip's mate
>Organize scouting parties for nearby tribes

>>1171381
He has the right idea. As a result of

>Internal Hierarchy: The hunters are ranked by strength, with the more powerful automatically being in charge of their lessers.

Everyone will already listen to everything Artichoke says that doesn't directly contradict the orders of Chief Turnip. If you want to formalize him in an advisory position that's fine, though. But I'll warn you that if Turnip pisses him off that he will not take it lying down. Right now he's content to serve, however.

>Make Artichoke official second to the chief?
or
>Let Artichoke remain merely the most powerful hunter?

>>1171402
>Let Artichoke remain merely the most powerful hunter?

FIRST WE MUST GET TURNIP STRONGER.

>>1171402
I'm for official second

>>1171402
>>Let Artichoke remain merely the most powerful hunter?

>>1171402
No opinion on this matter.

>>1171402
>>Let Artichoke remain merely the most powerful hunter

>>1171402
>Make Artichoke official second to the chief?
His experience would be a great benefit to us

>>1171402
>>Make Artichoke official second to the chief?
>Make Artichoke official second to the chief?

>>1171402
Second in command.

>>1171402
>>Let Artichoke remain merely the most powerful hunter?

>>1171402
>Make Artichoke official second to the chief?

Second to the chief: 5
Most powerful hunter: 4

Unless anyone else wants to weigh in I'd say that's a bare win for Chief's Second

>>1171459
Clearly the 4 need to kill the 5 and assert our dominance.

Ok update being written with

>Attempt to Domesticate the Stalkers
>Make Zelleri Chief Turnip's mate
>Organize scouting parties for nearby tribes
>Make Artichoke official second to the chief

People want a bro but going to get a fist through the face

>>1171472
Would it improper to fuck Zelleri while doing Chief stuff?
Multi-task and shit, yo.

Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>1171471
>Clearly the 4 need to kill the 5 and assert our dominance.
I assert this much dominance (rolls dice)

>>1171507
Your efficiency is commendable. We need more tribesmen like you.

>>1171472
The first order of business for Chief Turnip was a personal affair. Being both childless and the tribe’s strongest makes him quite the bachelor, and producing strong children is essential for the long term survival of the Crimson Zelleris. This is something that the Chief himself had spent a huge amount of time giving long-winded speeches lecturing about. Unfortunately, with regards to the Crimson Zelleri he had in mind, who, indeed, was both Crimson and a Zelleri, making this perhaps the most fitting title, he was at a loss. With her being the strongest female in the tribe whose child he hadn’t murdered it was only natural that she would be his mate, yet frustratingly enough he was having trouble attaining this.

Fortunately, the newly appointed Chief’s Second, as well as the most powerful hunter, Artichoke, did in fact have some useful advice.

“I think I lack understanding of the electro-chemical processes taking place in the neurological systems of our female hunters, Artichoke. It is natural that given the innately conflicting nature of our species that the strongest of the females should give themselves over to the strongest male, which in this situation is of course myself. Yet for some reason this conclusion has eluded my magnificent ability,” said Turnip.

“Have you tried, you know, asking her?”

“No.”

“Well, start with that, then,” said Artichoke

Following this conversation, the Chief did in fact ask Zelleri to mate with him, and after the customary brawl was finished claimed her as his consort. She was swiftly impregnated, and will be giving birth soon.

Ignoring personal matters, the Chief also ordered two actions: firstly, that a group of ten hunters scout the area surrounding the tribe for signs of other tribes. The second action was to begin the attempted domestication of the Stalker cubs brought by the hunter Parsnip. They had varying degrees of success.

>Cont.

>>1171604
>“Have you tried, you know, asking her?”
>“No.”
>“Well, start with that, then
I love this duo already

>>1171604
Are we gonna be encountering our first conflict and/or difficulty that as players we have to manage with as few losses as possible?

>>1171604
There appear to be three tribes in the immediate vicinity of the Crimson Zelleris. To the west, the ragged remains of the Bloodhounds’ village stand as a monument to the destructive Dragonclaws. The Dragonclaws themselves are not located during the mission; the former Bloodhounds claim they are further to the west of them, dwelling in the volcanic ring surrounding the Firey Expanse. To the east and south, there are two villages, belonging to the Skullcrushers and Bloodsippers respectively. These two tribes seem to feud quite regularly, even by the standards of Saiyan tribes. The scouts actually met them for the first time in the midst of a battle. And to the north…

The scouts encountered a fortified village with some sort of wall around it, built from the skeletons of Mawtusks. It appeared to be uninhabited, but when they approached it they had ki blasts fired upon them. Two of the scouts were killed, and the others quickly retreated further back. The former Bloodhounds do not know the name of this tribe, only that they are reclusive and not fond of visitors. It seems that any attempt to get close will meet with intense hostility. Additionally, one of them claims to have spotted a shadowy figure following them on their way home, prompting some concern, although this supposed figure could not be located.

The domestication goes better. The Stalker cubs are very fond of the young Parsnip, following him around during his daily business. They have to go another year before they reach adulthood, but when they do it might be possible to capture more Stalkers to breed them with. Already they are aiding in hunting missions and pulling their weight around the tribe. Parsnip calls his own pair ‘Tooth’ and ‘Claw’, rather uncreative as traditional of the Saiyan race.

Population: 537 Saiyans Total
>155 Adult Males (+5 per turn,)
>168 Adult Females (+5 per turn, -2 due to dead scouts)
>99 Children (+15 per turn)
>115 Slaves
>65 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)

This is the last update for tonight, will resume updates tomorrow morning. Feel free to brainstorm our course of action and the pastebin is here http://pastebin.com/ZNasYH5k for reference, showing updated power levels (training means a rough +10 increase to the hunters power levels per turn, may increase more if Zenkai or something similar occurs.)

>>1171644
I say we go rumble the Skullcrushers and the Bloodsippers.

>>1171644
Thank you for running, dude.

>>1171644
Clearly we do what that other village did, Use the Skeleton's of Mawtusks to make giant walls.

>>1171604
>“I think I lack understanding of the electro-chemical processes taking place in the neurological systems of our female hunters, Artichoke. It is natural that given the innately conflicting nature of our species that the strongest of the females should give themselves over to the strongest male, which in this situation is of course myself. Yet for some reason this conclusion has eluded my magnificent ability,” said Turnip.
>“Have you tried, you know, asking her?”
>“No.”
>“Well, start with that, then,” said Artichoke
Artichoke best second in command, holy shit.
He's like the sane straight man to our insane fucking shenanigans.

>>1171644
hmm, well I say we grab what's left of the bloodhounds as a trail run for our warriors and based off that decide how we should engage the skulls and the bloods. My suggestion is to disguise ourselves as the opposite tribe and start screwing with the two tribes and try to make them leave in a massive fight with each other. then we come in after the fight mop up the survivors and then enslave both villages. Then power train our warriors to better protect our village and to get ready to beat down the last village seeing how those fuckers took our chief's wall idea. THE BASTARDS!

>>1171691
Given how fighting for sport is part of our tribe's culture, and social standing is determined by strength, plus all the time spent hunting, our strength should be increasing over time, shouldn't it?

>>1171644
Artichoke and Cauli should be mated.
Both are described as having knowledge, and both are strong. Their child should work well I think.

>>1171805
yeah but >>1171644
>training means a rough +10 increase to the hunters power levels per turn, may increase more if Zenkai or something similar occurs.
so while I think our warriors might slowly get stronger over time I think training gives us a quicker boast.

>>1171805
it is, but also that stuff is usually just straight up killing. Where as 'training' would let us beat them to near death and dsuddenly become super stronger.

So guys, how much Inbreeding do you think we'll need to make a Legendary Super Saiyan?

>>1172385
None. If we're going by current DB lore, then breeding with other strong people or humans will make stronger warriors.

>>1172445
>Tfw in canon, syians end up breeding out of existance because the humanity is stronger then the Monkey.

>>1172452

Hey that Human Poon is no joke.

https://youtu.be/oWSDOy10Zws?t=21s

>>1172490
>First generation compared too 10+ generations down the line.

You disappoint me and the king.

Alright, I'm back

Update on our tribe so far:

Crimson Zelleri Tribe

Population: 537 Saiyans Total
>155 Adult Males (+5 per turn,)
>168 Adult Females (+5 per turn)
>99 Children (+15 per turn)
>115 Slaves
>65 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)
>2 Stalker Cubs (Domesticated)

Division of Labor:
>323 Hunter-Gatherers
>115 Slave-Farmers
>67 Domesticated Animals

System of Government:
>Tribal Chiefdom: The Chief, currently Chief Turnip, rules the tribe by right of being its strongest warrior. His power can enforce rules that otherwise would be difficult to enforce.
>Internal Hierarchy: The hunters are ranked by strength, with the more powerful automatically being in charge of their lessers.
>Chief Turnip, male. Considered to be quite insane, Turnip usually preaches the value of non-violence and cooperation. Despite being a rampant sociopath in the eyes of his fellow Saiyans, he nonetheless learned some unusually powerful ways of controlling his ki, giving him victory in the leadership tournament. 25 years old. Power level of 360.
>Chief's Second Artichoke, male. Old by Saiyan standards. Wise and cautious, once again by Saiyan standards. He’s lived through some tough times and has the scars to show for it. His experience is considered valuable enough that Chief Turnip officially appointed him as Chief's Second, his most highly valued advisor. 47 years old. Power level of 350.

Tribal Traditions:
>Mating Tradition (The Strongest Breed): Violent contests decide who gets to mate with whom, limiting population growth but increasing the strength of the next generation.
>Slavery: Raids on enemy tribes procure slaves for the tribe.
>Tournaments: Regular violent sporting competitions are held to re-affirm the position of each individual member of the tribe.
>Initiation: Children on the cusp of adulthood must go out into the Firey Expanse and procure something of value for the tribe. Whether or not the value of the thing is sufficient is determined by the Chief.

Technology:
>Clothing
>Basic Tools and Weapons
>Basic Buildings (forgot to add this earlier
>Agriculture
>Domestication
>Basic Ki Blasts
>Basic Ki Beams

>What does Chief Turnip do?

(As an aside, exact ages have been added to the pastebin http://pastebin.com/ZNasYH5k and each turn is now officially a half-year)

>>1173100
Jesus I screwed up the formatting for that at some point

ah well you can still read it

>>1173100

It's time to prepare for war.

We should consider using Belchers for something.
Bones, hide, tendons, all that could be used in some way or another.

I suppose we used them to build before, so how about we try to go for armour next, maybe better tools too. (As for weapons, not sure if we are ready to infuse Ki into our weapons yet.)

>>1173128

Also, fucking Turnip.
I'm almost certain that his complexion is so orange, he might as well be called "Kakarot".

>>1173100
>What does Chief Turnip do?
He orders the animal handlers to train some of the belchers for war.

If I recall the past OP posts correctly, these animals belch out fire.
They could make good siege units and crowd control specialists if handled right.
This would also complement our ki blasters and perhaps even use them as mounts.
Assuming that these creatures are even compatible enough to be used as mounts.

Aside from that we could possibly use them as beasts of burden at the farmlands though since they belch fire this might prove to be a hazard. We'll have to figure out how to redirect their fire belches elsewhere where they won't burn the crops. Perhaps a specialized muzzle with exhaust pipes?

>>1173175
Belchers are too small to be used as mounts. They're roughly the size of mountains goats. It should be possible to train them for war, however their current handlers are slave-farmers so it would be best to assign the task to proper Saiyans, such as with the Stalker cubs.

>>1173175

We can properly use belchers for smithing and cooking thank to their fire-breathing.

>>1173193
Alright.
Let the proper saiyans handle the tasks of training the belchers for war, with the initial assistance of the slaver-farmers.
Make them teach the initial belcher-masters-in-training to teach them how to handle belchers.
After that these trained saiyans will work on integrating their know-how of war and battle with their new knowledge.
Then they will be responsible for training future beast masters from now on.
Their slave-farmer teachers will then be returned to their former duties.

>>1173231
That is also a good idea.
We shall turn these goat-sized creatures into living stoves, forges and ovens!

So to summarize everything; The tribe will think of various ways of utilizing the belchers' fire belching abilities to their advantage and integrate them to their daily lives.

>>1173100
Have Cauli train Belchers for war
Loot the Bloodhounds' village of anything useful
Try to get a count on Bloodsippers and Skullcrushers

>>1173234
>>1173233
>>1173193
>>1173175

May I bring up a related topic?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ager_Falernus

So the general consensus seems to be:

>Train the belchers for war, smithing, cooking and other such uses

Other points of contention:
>Should the tribe prepare for war or raiding? If so, how?
>Should the tribe loot the remains of the Bloodhounds' village?

>>1173238

> The tribe should loot the remains of the Bloodhounds' village!

Technological piracy HO!

>>1173238
>Should the tribe prepare for war or raiding? If so, how?
Not right now. We will still have to train some belchers.
For now let's train an escort of guards so that our scavengers and looters will have some protection from a potential ambush while they strip the Bloodhound village of its contents.

>Should the tribe loot the remains of the Bloodhounds' village?
Yes.

>>1173238
>>Should the tribe prepare for war or raiding? If so, how?
For now raiding since we're going to finish off the bloodhounds to boast our forces. Have our forces practice diversion tactics and hit and runs. Diversion as in have a smaller group of our stronger saiyans open up an attack to either get the enemy to run or attack the small group while our main forces come in from the opposite direction and either hit the enemy in the back or stop anyone from running away. Hit and run is self explanatory. Ambushes on away parties and having small groups of warriors fire ki attacks at important enemy structures or people to try and cripple or destroy them then running the fuck away before the enemy can counter attack. Mounts will be vary handy for the second form of attack.

>>Should the tribe loot the remains of the Bloodhounds' village?
Yes. It will make good practice.

Ok, next update is being written. Will include:

>Belcher Training
>Basic Tactical Training for Hunters
>Looting the Bloodhound Village's Remains
>The Birth of an Heir

>>1173311
I bet Turnip is a freak in his personal life. He likes cuddling and holding hands, the sick pervert.

>>1173311
Hey do we have any shit tons of bones from the animals? Those fiant walls seemed siper usefil

>>1173364

Or armour. And Weapons. Or tools.

We could use bonetools to send slaves out to mine rocks, or whatever material we could use.

“Do not stress yourself, accouchement is remarkably simply when done in the correct manner. It is of paramount importance that you be as relaxed possible during the delivery process. Here, allow me to grasp your prehensile organ while you push.”

“Screw you, you bastard! You’re the one who did this to me in the first place! I’m pushing as hard as I can already, damn it!”

Chief Turnip was currently in a bit of an awkward position. After his mate Zelleri’s water broke, he was one of the first on the scene. He immediately ordered Artichoke to retrieve a few of the older females to aid with the birth, but in the meantime he was stuck here with her. It was somewhat rare for Saiyan males to actually be present when their children are born, but Turnip wished to be an exception to the rule. Being that he was the strongest in the tribe, and his mate quite powerful as well, his own child was a contender to potentially succeed him, if groomed properly. Nonetheless, the constant screaming was getting annoying. As were by this point multiple attempts by Zelleri to fire a ki blast at his reproductive areas, though those were rather easily deflected. So perhaps it would be best if he waited outside.

“I’m back, Chief. And I’ve brought a few of the elder lasses to midwife her,” said Artichoke, as he and a group of females entered the chief’s residence.

“Excellent, my faithful second. It is imperative that we allow them to do their work. Come, we shall exit and await the birth of the child outside. I wanted to discuss with you the potential ancillary uses of our domesticated Belchers.”

“Right.”

Hours later, when the birthing was complete, Chief Turnip returned to his hovel to greet the newborn. It was a boy, who looked very much like him, though he had his mother’s crimson hair. Thankfully Zelleri had fallen asleep shortly after he was squeezed out, the birth having strained her considerably. Since she seemed out of commission, it appeared it was up to the Chief to name the boy.

>What is the name of Chief Turnip’s son? (The child was born with a power level of 15)

>Cont.

>>1173399
>ZAKUUUUU

I don't know any fucking vegetable names.

>>1173399
rutabaga
kohlrabi
cabbage
Kale

all apart of the same family as turnips

>>1173399
>rutabaga

>>1173399
>Brock Lee

>>1173399
His hair is red, chili peppers are red, lets name him Chili. Or Cherry. Whatever.

>>1173407

Let go with Chili.

>>1173399

How about something related to beetroot?

>>1173407
Switching to Chili

>>1173419
>>1173407
>>1173410

Sheeri?

>>1173423

Some variation of the term chili.
It's got to be a chili pun.

Anyway, we also have to get that child trial system underway ASAP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo-QziDiznU

>>1173399
Drills were organized by the Chief to instill tactical knowledge in the tribe’s hunters. Unfortunately, the average Saiyan’s knowledge of tactics does not advance far beyond charging straight at the enemy. In particular, Chief Turnip ensured that they were capable of dodging and deflecting ki blasts, though ki beams of sufficient strength appeared too powerful to properly deflect, so only dodging was advised in that case. This should provide a significant advantage, particularly should the tribe enter into a violent confrontation with the unknown tribe to the north, which also has knowledge of outward ki manipulation.

The process of breeding the Belchers for other purposes is going well. Repurposing them for cooking, smithing, and other similar uses was easily done, as they are relatively docile unless provoked. A group of ten was assembled under Cauli to breed for bravery and warfare. Progress on this front is slower; the Belchers are a naturally skittish species, after all, and the Saiyans, particular those dedicated to war, are just the opposite. Nonetheless, Cauli claims it will only take a few more breeding seasons to get a decent group of War-Belchers, if she selects for strength and bravery. (Action will complete in two turns, until then the population of War-Belchers will remain stagnant and unusable in combat) Additionally, Parsnip’s twin Stalkers, Tooth and Claw, reached adulthood this year. Both have power levels of about 100. While they are quite useful, they are both siblings and male, so more Stalker cubs will need to be kidnapped to serve as mates for them in the future.

Scouts, including some former Bloodhounds, were dispatched to the remains of the Bloodhound village to search for loot. While it was thoroughly ransacked by the Dragonclaws, they were primarily interested in material wealth rather than more practical spoils. Some food, tools and weapons, and a storage full of firewood were all recovered. The Bloodhounds seemed somewhat distressed that they could not recover any of their personal belongings as well.

Population: 562 Saiyans Total
>160 Adult Males (+5 per turn,)
>173 Adult Females (+5 per turn)
>114 Children (+15 per turn)
>115 Slaves
>65 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)
>10 War-Belchers in training (Domesticated)
>2 Stalkers (Domesticated)

Current Actions:
>Breeding/Training War Belchers (2 More Turns)

>What does Chief Turnip do?

>>1173458
Raid stalker dens

>>1173465
+1

>>1173458

So, we got food underway, we got a proper system.

Time go for technological advancement, right?
We want to go to war, so we should learn to use materials for tools and the like.

Also armour.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU

>>1173465
And that I suppose too.

>>1173458
Build walls around the tribe using the bones of the Dead animals and get some armor.

Alright, so:

>Chili (for child's name)
>Raid Stalker Dens
>Armor (leather, because metal-working isn't very advanced yet)
>Fortify Village with Mawtusk Skeletons

Anything else?

>>1173491
Turnip works on ki techniques

Oh, I almost forgot. An anon mentioned it a while back but if you want to:

>Does Chief Turnip attempt matchmaking on Artichoke and Cauli?

>>1173508
Yeeee

>>1173498
+1

>>1173508
Yes, sayians must breed for intelligence as well as strength.

>>1173508
Image the shame arty is gonna feel when fucking Turnip of all people helps him get laid

>>1173515
Saiyans don't give a shit about intelligence there's no reason for them to try and breed it

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>>1173520

No shame, only pride in his own work.

>>1173525
Yeah, they didn't.
Look what good it did em.

>>1173525
they don't, we're god though with an insane leader. So we will.

>>1173525
I can see why Freeza was able to kill them.

>>1173525
Yeah, and look how that turned out.

Saiyans like to win. To win, you need your warriors need the best weapons. The best weapon is the mind bro.

Sun Tzu Kiwi said that, look it up.

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>>1173550

Also tactics.
Don't forget them tactics.

“Turnip! Come back here right this instant or I’ll kill you!”

“Sorry, I am unable to grant your request as I am currently in the midst of perfecting the outward manipulation of ki so as to assure the posterity of the Saiyan race.”

“I don’t care! Chili is crying and it’s your turn to clean up his crap.”

“I-yes, dear.”

Somewhere, deep inside of his heart, a tiny piece of Turnip was severely regretting that he had decided to make his relationship with Zelleri and Chili far more involved than typical of Saiyan father. It was times like these that gave that piece its potency. Thankfully, Chili hadn’t made as much of a mess as last time, and so was rather easily taken care of. And once it was dealt with, he attempted to return to his training, only to be interrupted once again.

“Chief.”

“Artichoke, my good man. What matter is it that requires my attention?”

“The hunters we sent out looking for Stalkers have returned. Not all of them made it,” said Artichoke, scratching at his beard in what might have been sadness on a weaker man.

“A pity. Yet they knew the risks; Stalkers are fearsome predators, even more so when defending their young from would-be kidnappers. How many returned, and did they at least capture a cub or two?”

“Just one, but she’s a lass. Seven hunters returned.”

“So three died, then. Shame. And Tooth and Claw will have to share a mate for now. Once she reaches an appropriate age, anyway. Speaking of age and mates, I have a proposition for you, now that I’ve thought of it just now.”

“Yes, Chief?”

“You and Cauli should mate. Being both slightly more experienced and of higher than standard intelligence and strength, it is only fitting that you too should bond to one another for the twin purposes of reproduction and to re-affirm the social bond that must be present between individuals at the high levels of tribal societies for maximum group cohesiveness.”

“Right. Will do.”

“Hmph. I expected that convincing you would be harder.”

“Wrong on that count. Not like I haven’t given the lass a tumble or two before. But that was during the famine, so we made sure not to squeeze out any little ones. Suppose we should, now.”

“Exactly, my good man. I hope your relationship is as happy and healthy as my own!”

“Eh, maybe.”

“That’s the spirit!”

>Cont.

>>1173591
I love how fucking weird Turnip is.

I hope Clan Zelleri gets a reputation for having crazy chiefs.

>>1173608
Other than being killed by other Saiyans/beasts, what's the average age of a Saiyan dying of natural causes? I know since they're a warrior race, they probably don't have a lot of chances of seeing old age but I'm sort of curious.
I love Turnip's personality a lot. Perfect for Zelleri and Artichoke

>>1173633
I think like 200 +? Even more with advanced medical shit.

>>1173591
The failure of the raids on Stalker dens was unfortunate, but not an unexpected outcome for Chief Turnip. With an average power level of 100, and ferocious enough when not defending their young, he had already calculated that a few men would probably be lost. The real pity was that only a single cub was wrangled back to the tribe. At least this would mean a breeding population in just a couple years when she reached adulthood, though perhaps some more successful raids could be organized in the mean time.

Additionally, time dedicated to ki manipulation allowed the Chief to perfect his ki blasts to be stronger, as well as increasing his all around power. (+20 to Chief Turnip’s Power Level)
Work began on the construction of a wall to defend the village from outside attack, composed of the skeletal remains of hunted Mawtusks. It would probably take another few months to complete, but even in it’s unfinished state provided a great bulwark to enemy tribes. Walls were not the only defensive innovation to greet the tribe. Primitive protective clothing, made from tough Belcher or Mawtusk hides, soon became a popular article of clothing. Most Saiyans opted to wear this armor at all times, just in case of a fight.

Current Actions:
>Breeding/Training War-Belchers (1 Turn)
>Constructing a Wall (1 turn)

Also:
>What does Chief Turnip do now?

Population: 584 Saiyans Total
>165 Adult Males (+5 per turn,)
>175 Adult Females (+5 per turn, -3 due to Stalker Den raid deaths)
>129 Children (+15 per turn)
>115 Slaves
>75 Belchers (Domesticated, +10 per turn)
>10 War-Belchers in training (Domesticated)
>2 Adult Male Stalkers (Domesticated)
>1 Female Stalker Cub

>>1173642
>Chief Turnip would have all the men and mothers not pregeant get into a giant fist fight, However it was not to be to the death but until they were unable to effectively move anymore. Then the pregeant women would apply any medication they had to get the people back up.

>Afterwords they would work on squad tactics for hunting together and fighting together to build up the whole 'team work' thing'

>>1173641
I think that's in the future with the medical tech. Been reading online that they only live a bit longer than humans. They only keep their prime looks and power longer then rapidly age in the end.

>>1173642
Did we put crop rotation in as of yet so to farm the land for bullshit or have slaves do it? Also, Do slaves not reproduce?

>>1173675
I don't think the slaves have time to tumble with all of the work they're doing.

>>1173678
If the slaves are Saiyans, I think they do. Or at the very least, the men of the tribe take turns passing them around because they are too weak to fight back.

>>1173633
>>1173641
>>1173657
Current lore on Saiyans states they live about as long or slightly longer as Humans, but their do not outwardly age much. Effectively there's just a point where their bodies give up and die of old age, but until that point they keep on going strong. According to lore (I believe written by Toriyama himself) for Dragonball Online, just before Goku and Vegeta were going to die of old age they went out to an un-inhabited space and had one last all-out fight to the death, which resulted into a multitude of star systems blowing up. So they are powerful until the very end.

>>1173675
>>1173678
The slave population is stagnant at the moment, as their is no real incentive for them to breed. You may institute a breeding program if you want, however it may not be very productive. The slaves are kept on the brink of death at all times to avoid rebelliousness, and often are left only just healthy enough to keep working. Slave women might not survive childbirth or even conception considering how Saiyans go at it. Of course, you can also choose to start treating your slaves better, but that would be terrible in-Saiyan of you.

>>1173690
Ah, God Bless you Toriyama. Its a same we made the human race slightly above avg after the whole introduce of the genes.

Can we get a power level gauge on the slaves? Or are they so weak they don't really 'have' one.

Why don't we start working on better healing remedies? That Zenkai boost would sure as fuck come in handy.

>>1173699
Need to find good medicinal plants then though that will take experimentation to find which work and which are poisonous.

>>1173699
we can do that once we get strong enough and our slaves are ready for taste testing.

>>1173642
Time to test the effectiveness of our forces. Let's go on a raid. See how well we do.

>>1173722
This

>>1173722
Second.

>>1173722

Might as well, can't turtle up forever.

We need some fresh meat, in slaves, and potential mates/tribes members.

>>1173722
To elaborate, we should go after those 2 feuding clans, specifically whichever one currently has the upper hand.

1. We're saiyans so we want to fight the strong.

2. If we win, we even the scales between the two clans and keep the feud going. They'll probably be too busy with each other to retaliate.

Also, if we do raid, Turnip should take part. It's probably been awhile since he's gotten into a real fight, and he needs to remind the clan of just why he's the fucking boss.

Apologies for the wait, I had to help my elderly grandfather clean his guns.

Consensus:
>Raid (On Either the Skullcrushers or Bloodsippers)
>Gather Potential Medicinal Herbs

Who leads the raid?

>Chief Turnip

>Chief's Second Turnip

>Someone Else?

What is the goal of the raid?

>Capture Slaves

>Steal Food

>Kill Enemy Tribesmen

>Something else?

>>1174092
>>Chief Turnip

>>Capture Slaves

>>1174092
>Chief Turnip
>Capture Slaves

>>1174092
>Chief Turnip
>Capture Slaves

>False flag Bloodsippers AND Skullcrushers