>>1238116
Lets roll for it

>>1238116
I'd say the one you crafted sounds interesting.

>>1238162
>>1238159
Well, it's been twenty minutes, and we got a vote each way. If we get another vote within five minutes, that'll decide it. If not, we'll flip a coin/roll a d2.

>>1238116
Roll for it.

>>1238169
>>1238166
Welp, there we go.

Alright, gents! First things first. 3d6 for Realm. Taking the first linked to this.

>>1238162
This +1

Rolled 5, 2, 1 = 8 (3d6)

>>1238175

>>1238179
Riverlands

>>1238179
8 means the Riverlands. We've fertile land, and a good bit of it, with a high population. Not much in the way of natural defenses though.

Let's get some 7d6 rolls linked to this. Taking the first seven, in order, for our stats.

Defense, Influence, Lands, Law, Population, Power, Wealth, in that order.

Rolled 6, 5, 4, 2, 3, 4, 3 = 27 (7d6)

>>1238190

Rolled 3, 6, 5, 1, 4, 2, 1 = 22 (7d6)

>>1238190

Rolled 1, 2, 1, 3, 5, 2, 1 = 15 (7d6)

>>1238190
second roll?

Rolled 4, 5, 6, 5, 5, 6, 6 = 37 (7d6)

>>1238190

>>1238216
>>1238197
>>1238220
Keep it going, folks. We need 7, and I don't mind people rolling multiple times.

>>1238190

Rolled 6, 1, 2, 6, 6, 2, 6 = 29 (7d6)

>>1238222

Why not take this roll? >>1238220

Rolled 4, 6, 3, 4, 3, 2, 6 = 28 (7d6)

Rolled 2, 4, 2, 2, 1, 6, 4 = 21 (7d6)

>>1238190
Seven gods of the dice help us.

Rolled 5, 6, 3, 6, 4, 2, 6 = 32 (7d6)

>>1238190
BIG WEALTH PLEASE

Rolled 5, 3, 6, 4, 3, 3, 1 = 25 (7d6)

>>1238222

>>1238227
I am, mate, I am. You have pretty damn good Law and fantastic Population.

>>1238230
Not linked, so I can't take it. Sorry!

>>1238232
And that's seven, rock on. You did it, anon. You have some pretty nice damn Wealth. Now we need 1d6, taking the first linked here, for our house's age.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>1238240

>>1238244
Old House, Rhoynar Invasion!

>>1238244
An old house, one from the Rhoynar Invasion. 1d6+1 for how many events we have in our respectable history.

Hopefully the dice our kind to our family!

Rolled 6 + 1 (1d6 + 1)

>>1238252

>>1238252
>An old house, one from the Rhoynar Invasion
Are we connected to the event and are in some way related to Dorne or our house just emerged during this period?

>>1238259
Well shit! Our people have been pretty busy over the years. 3d6, gents, seven times. The first seven linked.

>>1238263
As we're Riverlanders, we're probably unrelated. The rolls for our history will decide how and why we became a house.

>>1238263
Our house was emerging in that period.

Rolled 4, 4, 3 = 11 (3d6)

>>1238266

Rolled 1, 6, 2 = 9 (3d6)

>>1238266

Rolled 3, 2, 1 = 6 (3d6)

>>1238266

Rolled 4, 3, 4 = 11 (3d6)

>>1238266

Rolled 4, 1, 6 = 11 (3d6)

>>1238266
For Glory!

Anyone remember that other Riverlands house where we had crazy influence purely from well-connected marriages to our hot af daughters?

>>1238282
Guthier!

>>1238271
Ah, the most boring of beginnings. Infrastructure. We were founded for the simple purpose that House Hoare needed someone to govern a stretch of land for them.

>>1238272
And then came the backstabbing!

>>1238274
And then everyone went nuts. Fantastic!

>>1238282
>>1238275
And even while everyone was kind of crazy, we still did our jobs.

Still need two more, gents!

Rolled 6, 3, 4 = 13 (3d6)

>>1238301

Rolled 5, 1, 6 = 12 (3d6)

>>1238301
Well if OP does not mind multiple roles, then I'll try again. Maybe less craziness this time

Rolled 3, 1, 5 = 9 (3d6)

>>1238301

How about we play a crazy moutherfucker instead of a sleek player of the game?
Like a less bratty joffery and a less aggresive ramsey?

>>1238340
That's as unoriginal as a sleek player also I hate "lol rundum things! xD" characters.

>>1238316
>>1238319
And then everyone loved us? Maybe we were *really* good at our jobs? Anyway, now we need a whole mess of d6s. Just... a whole bloody mess.

Let's do this by stat. For Defense, we have -2d6, so, 2d6! First linked will be taken.

>>1238340
>>1238348
What if we played the Bronn? Fuck games with chairs or whatever, just pay us and we'll stick our sword in something.

Rolled 6, 2 = 8 (2d6)

>>1238354

Rolled 5, 4 = 9 (2d6)

>>1238354

>>1238357
With the +6 from Madness, that's a total of -2.

Next, 5d6 for Influence! The first three are negatives, the last two are positives.

>>1238354
WEALTH ROLL FOR INFRASTRUCTURE

Rolled 5, 6, 4, 2, 3 = 20 (5d6)

>>1238363

Rolled 6, 1, 2, 5, 1 = 15 (5d6)

>>1238363

>>1238367
I'm just gonna' stop rolling. Jesus.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>1238364

Rolled 3, 1, 1, 6, 6 = 17 (5d6)

>>1238363

>>1238340
pls we no bully smallfolk
Unless we are mad from trying to learn arcane secrets of the world.

If not then being tryhard evil in grey and grey morality setting is hardly original.
Given setting, a paragon of chivalry character may be more original Arthur Dane/ ser Barristan style.

>>1238367
Jesus. That's a total of -4.

Next comes our Lands! 4d6. First two are negatives, last two are positives.

Rolled 1, 1, 3, 2 = 7 (4d6)

>>1238375
I don't know what numbers mean, but I still roll.

Rolled 6, 6, 3, 6 = 21 (4d6)

>>1238375

>>1238383
GG anon

>>1238383
Thank you anon

>>1238383
It's ok, anon. You did good. That's a total +9!

Now law. 4d6, first three are negatives, last one is positive.

>>1238374
The reason i brought it up is because we always play the game player and i think something else would be more interesting
While going full randumb is stupid, it would be refreshing to not play a character in the most optimal way possible

Rolled 2, 2, 2, 5 = 11 (4d6)

>>1238395

>>1238402
Dang man.

>>1238402
Only a minus 1, not bad

>>1238402
Nice! +5 total. We pretty lawful, yo.

Now, population. 2d6, both of them negatives.

Rolled 3, 5 = 8 (2d6)

>>1238412

>>1238410
Actually, Madness gives all of our stats +6 ontop of the various rolls.

>>1238415
This is a -2. That's not bad at all.

Now power. 5d6, the first two are negatives, the last three are positives.

>>1238415
Bad roll, could be worse

Rolled 5, 5, 6, 3, 1 = 20 (5d6)

>>1238419

>>1238419
Oh
I forgot about that

>>1238427
Not... terrible. Total of +6.

Next is Wealth, 3d6. First two are negative, last is positive.

Rolled 3, 5, 4 = 12 (3d6)

>>1238435

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>>1238399
Some flaws or mental disorder are good for character, so worth a consideration.
I think that our family is crazy from some past event, so we can be mad and (if old gods wills) badass.

>>1238437
Total of +2! That's not bad at all.

Now, as it stands, here are our stats.

Defense 20
Influence 13
Lands 29
Law 42
Population 37
Power 27
Wealth 39

To sum this up, we're not very defensible at all, a keep, or a couple of towers maybe. Influence... eh, noone really notices we exist. But we have a decent amount of land, and with our Law and Population... well, it's land we govern well, and our Smallfolk pretty well adore us. We also have a NICE pile of dosh, when you consider where we are in the world.

Now here comes an important part, and also a cluster fucky one. Three instances of Infrastructure means we have 6d6, which we can allocate where we want. So we're going to take a vote. How many of the d6s do you want to add to each stat? Inexample, +3 to Influence, +2 to Power, +1 to Wealth? Or +2 to Defense, +2 to Influence, +2 to Wealth? Etc. Voting will last 20 minutes from the time of this post.

>>1238448
We got REALLY good rolls. The long story short is... even if we have some weirdness going on every couple generations, we do our job very well. Kinda like the Targs, I guess, but with more good and less bad, like instead of a coin flip, it's rolling a 1 on a d6, and even then we're less 'torturous madness' and more 'quirky lunatics'.

>>1238462
I'd say 3d6's to Defense, 2d6's to Power, and 1d6 to Law.

That Defense is scaring the shit out of me right now what with how good our Land and Wealth is.

>>1238462
As that guy that don't know the rules I'd say that we should add to defence.
As we have quite much cash, popular support and relatively big population we should be able to arm and field large amount of militia troops for defence and they will need both force multiplayer of static defences and time to mobilize, that we need to spend locked behind the walls.
Or we could hire mercs while in danger but it takes time and we need not to get rekt before help arrives.

>>1238469
This

>>1238469
Why another d6 to law, which is a 42

>>1238469
I like it except the d6 to Law. Make it Wealth instead.

>>1238469
>>1238489
>>1238491
>>1238495
So between these, I'm kinda getting 4d6 Defense, 2d6 Power?

>>1238499
Sounds good

>>1238462

Since we were set up by the Hoares, perhaps our house origins could be Ironborn? It won't really effect too much aside from perhaps our arms, as we're likely to have assimilated heavily over the centuries.

>>1238499
Fine with me.
>>1238495
Because I fucking hate bandits and don't wanna' take any chances.

>>1238508
And at just under 20 minutes, we'll call it a lock.

Roll them 6d6. The first four go to Defense, the last two to Power.

>>1238514
Entirely possible, might explain the Treachery as the second roll, and the Madness as we start sorting shit out, then... holy shit, best governors ever, House (insert name here) for president 2020.

Rolled 2, 6, 1, 4, 3, 6 = 22 (6d6)

>>1238527

>>1238530
Would've liked more for Defense but at least we're in the 30's now.

>>1238534
With how much money, law, and defense we have we can totally pull a german warmachine if we wanted
But i find that a bit boring

>>1238530
Alright! Our 'final' stat tallies now go as...

Defense 33
Influence 13
Lands 29
Law 42
Population 37
Power 36
Wealth 39

These are, except for Influence which is SHIT, really respectable stats for a minor house! Good going, guys! Our Defense is nice as shit for the Riverlands, we have a decent amount of Lands, our Law and Population are both REALLY nice (our Population is actually at the best it can be, any higher and we'd actually start taking penalties!), we have decent Power, and veeery nice Wealth.

Now, let's start our investing with LANDS!

Being in the Riverlands, we can expect mostly Hills or Plains, with plenty of Rivers and Streams. Especially Streams. With our high Population, having atleast one settlement would be pretty wise.

May I suggest Plains 5, River 3, Road 5, Hamlet 10 for one, and Plains 5, Stream 1 as a second? That'd be all 29 Land, but we'd have two decently nice areas to start with.

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>>1238560
Of course I forgot to add this.

>>1238560
>>1238576
And my damn trip.

>>1238560
I'll go with your suggestion.

>>1238560
We need MUCH more wetland

>>1238560

Can we take your first, but got for Wetlands(3)+Coast(3) In place of your second? Gives us some variety.

>>1238590
Wetlands are more swamps and marshes. If you'd like, however, we could go with Wetlands instead of plains. This would actually allow:

Wetlands, River, Road, Hamlet
Wetlands, Stream
Wetlands, Stream

>>1238597
This is also perfectly acceptable. It's really up to you guys how you'd like to go. Maybe a vote between the three?

>[A] Stable Land
Plains, River, Road, Hamlet
Plains, Stream

>[B] Diverse Land
Plains, River, Road, Hamlet
Wetlands, Coast

>[C] Lotsa Land
Wetlands, River, Road, Hamlet
Wetlands, Stream
Wetlands, Stream

>>1238614
>>[B] Diverse Land
>Plains, River, Road, Hamlet
>Wetlands, Coast

>>1238614

>[B] Diverse Land
Plains, River, Road, Hamlet
Wetlands, Coast

>>1238614
[C] Lotsa Land

>>1238614
Voting will last 15 minutes this time! Get your voice heard, gents.

>>1238614
>>[B] Diverse Land
Gotta get the coast so ironborn can raid us.

>>1238614
>[C] Lotsa Land

>>1238636
>>1238622
>>1238624
Also, important note! A Port requires River, Coast, or Island, AND a Small Town or larger. So we either need to grow our Hamlet in the River area, or built a brand new Small Town n the Coast.

>>1238614
>C

>>1238646
>>1238646
Actually, a good note: A lot of things require a Small Town or bigger. We should keep that in mind for the future.

I could offer an Option D:

>[D] Trading Land
Plains 5, River 3, Small Town 20

>>1238664
>>[D] Trading Land
>Plains 5, River 3, Small Town 20

>>1238664
Gunna give voting ten more minutes if anyone wishes to change their vote. Lotsa Land seems to be in the lead right now.

>>1238664
Would changing plains to coast be a bad idea?
Ports are generally a good way to generate income and having most of our assets concentrated will mean they will be easier to defend.

>>1238691
Plains is a Terrain, while Coast is a Feature. Rivers also allow for Ports, which is why one is included there.

>>1238681
Aren't lots of land and diverse land tied at three each? Or have I miscounted?

>>1238691
You need a base terrain to set your lands.
so you'll need to decide wether to use a plains, wetland or hills and build rivers or road or even a coast.

>>1238614
>[B] Diverse Land
Plains, River, Road, Hamlet
Wetlands, Coast

wetlands aren't great, better to have access to the ocean

>>1238715
Oh, you're correct. Woops!

>>1238725
This here breaks the tie! In the future, we could build a road in the Coast, and a Small Town there, or something else. Or we could just focus on our primary area and build up the Hamlet into a Small Town so we can have our Port.

As it is, our Wealth purchases might be a bit limited.

Now, we need to chose a name for our Hamlet, and move on to Defense holdings. We have, essentially, two options. This is not, of course, counting the ever present right to Write-In.

>[A] Castle Town
Small Castle at Hamlet

>[B] Safe Lands
Hall/Keep at Hamlet, Tower at Coast

>>1238614
>>1238614
I'd trade the wetlands of the Diverse plan for a light wood.

>>1238749
>[A] Castle Town

is there any guide of how big a part of land is?
For example one plains are how many square km approximately?

>>1238749
>>[A] Castle Town

>>1238749
OP must run. Be back shortly!

>>1238766
Each domain is roughly one league (3 miles) by core. We might fudge this.

>>1238749
>[B] Safe Lands

Gotta make sure our port is defended

so locationwise, I think we are on the northern side of the Cape of Eagles, about on line with the Twins. There's no (large) river on the map that I can see, but we can assume that cartographers aren't gonna mark down every single tiny river in the Riverlands.

>>1238749
>[A] Castle Town
Small Castle at Hamlet

Better to have a well defended home incase of Ironborn raiders. It would be cool to style it like Riverrun, where the castle has the river as a moat. We could have the castle be on a oxbow that was built up by our house, and if we get enough Defense buy a moat.

>>1238750
I would support this, plus it would mean we can get away from the Freys a bit

>>1238778
I'm seconding this.

Christ, I came in late to the thread.

>>1238777
>Gotta make sure our port is defended
If one piece of lands is 3 miles then we can build a port along our river no problem.
So we can concentrate our defences on our main "tile"
Historical port in Gdansk(Danzig) is 7 km from the sea and it did not stop it from being major trading port in Balitcs (it was also surrounded by the swamp)

>>1238778
lets do this

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>>1238778
>if we get enough Defense buy a moat.
It would help if the OP would allow for the homebrews made over the years by /tg/ and Out of Strife, Prosperity.

Didn't the Brotherhood without banner hide in the area between Acorn Hall, Pinkmaiden and the Isle of Face in the books? I may be wrong in the location but there was wood wherever it was.

>>1238835
If we want to become owners of successfully trading port the best place would be near the source of Blue Fork at the height of Oldstones.

Blue Fork -> Trident looks like a place that would be great for any West - East transfer of goods, far shorter than going around the Dorne

Also on this map area between Seagard and Oldstones looks like some kind of swamp for our wetland.

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>>1238876
the area on the Cape of Eagles would work if we want a good trading port. Ships are gonna need to get fresh water and provisions if they're headed up/down the west coast, if we're on the tip of the cape, we'll have a large amount of traffic.

Definitely gonna need higher defenses though, our port would be a prime target for the Ironborn.

>>1238835
OP happily allows the homebrews and OoSP.

Perhaps if I might suggest... Placed between either Seaguard and Oldstones with Wetlands, River, Small Town, or between Fairmarket and the base of the Blue Fork as Plains, River, Small Town?

These would offer excellent chances for trade, with a Port and Market both?

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also OP, what time period/year are we gonna be playing in?

>>1238922
Seagard and Oldstones.

>>1238926
287 AC.

>>1238931
Say, about here, and assume the Blue Fork goes all the way to the bay?

>>1238922
I vote Fairmarket and the Blue Fork. It'll be easier to farm and we can ship stuff down the river to Maidenpool slightly quicker

>>1238905
Could play the part of a house sworn to House Mallister, the master of Seagard. the low influence can be a result of that, though being a house raised by the Ironborn when they held the Riverlands would make us at odds with the Mallisters.

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>>1238938
Forgot my picture

>>1238938
What?

I'm tired, I have no idea what you mean

>>1238953
>>1238938

I approve

>>1238953
Oh yeah, that's fine.

>>1238952
I say we should be Ironborn given a shit piece of Wetlands by Hoare, and since that was a slight against us, we became allies with Seagard.

>>1238953
Thats an excellent central location sure

Also I came out of nowhere. Hi.
New GOT quests make me happy

>>1238954
>>1238953
I forgot my picture.

So Wetlands, River, Small Town, with a Small Castle. Is this correct, everyone?

>>1238954
looks good to me. That puts us under the rule of House Mallister

>>1238958
could we have rebelled against Hoare to side with Seagard, considering we have the Treachery in our history?

>>1238963
Im down.

>>1238968
Boom, there it is

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>>1238963
I like it.

so, do we want to keep the Old gods, the Drowned God, or the Seven?

>>1238979
The Old, we're a bunch of Ironborn-turned-Rivermen weirdos, might as well get weirder

>>1238958
>>1238968
Reminds me of a creation thread some months back, in it the house was a Riverlander lord who sided with the Ironborn, only to get dicked by Aegon when he made landfall. In it we also had the Mallisters as our overlord and boy where they pissed at us.
We where around the same area too, amusingly enough.

>>1238970
This works excellently, really. We were given the land by Hoare to govern, and viewing the piece of shit marshland as a slight, allied with Mallister against them. It fits with our background events well, and out location, AND our low Influence score meaning we're subordinate to another house.

Need to study up on Mallister...

Now, the Wealth holdings.

I assuming that Marketplace and Port are both autoincludes, taking up 20 of our 39 Wealth. Can I also assume the Trader's Warehouse upgrade to the Marketplace? What other might we be interested in?

>>1238979
I am betting the Seven, but with a small but considerable cult to the Drowned God floating around.

Or maybe say fuck it and go with the Old Gods just to be contrary.

>>1238979
Im down for the seven
We could use the converting as a sign that we left the ironborn way of life

>>1238995
The Mallisters are my fav house, incidentally. This played out nice.

>>1238992
did they have crabs on their coat of arms?

>>1239001
Give me a rundown on them, I am not as knowledgeable in that area as I should be.

>>1238995
would you mind posting the Holdings PDF?

>>1238997
Changing the vote, 7 with small drowned cult

>>1238979
I want to be old god worshipers. No other reason than I think it would be cool. The seven and the drowned men are fine as well. Im not really gonna argue religion, I dont find It that important to me if im frank.

But I know its important to the setting. So if were being super cereal id say probably faith of the seven, with a sizable cabal of old god and drowned god worshipers

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>>1239006
Nope, was geared to feed Harrenhal. Never went far enough to name it as the OP stopped responding.

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>>1239013
One better. Here's most of the core stuff, if not all of it.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6sar1o14399xv/SIFRP


< And here is the homebrew stuff.

>>1239012
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/House_Mallister

the fact that they would side with Ironborn seems a bit off. What if we were a house of Ironborn that married into the dying house that had our land? By the time we joined the Mallisters, we'd only be like 1/8th or 1/16th Ironborn

>>1238979
Seven

>>1239013
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6sar1o14399xv/SIFRP

You can find it in here.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qm-psOSbKz_FbT9XpMXcNfwuOLmSRokmevgt9jkMVzo/edit?usp=sharing

This the Homebrew collection.

>>1239030
Nah. I'm pretty sure the Mallisters during the original overthrow of Hoare would be desperate enough to accept Ironborn (mind you Hoare hasn't been burned alive yet) and our conversion to the Seven and our willingness to be bannermen to them would prove our loyalty.

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>>1239013
The PDF and the link for the homebrews.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qm-psOSbKz_FbT9XpMXcNfwuOLmSRokmevgt9jkMVzo/edit

>>1239030
>What if we were a house of Ironborn that married into the dying house that had our land?

I actually don't think this is a bad idea. Pulling a Baratheon essentially, maybe not to the same degree but to some extent.

So, we still need Wealth Holdings. We are auto including Marketplace and Port, so we're at 20/39. Adding Trader's Warehouses would raise that to 25/39, if we chose it. What else?

>>1239069
What are the other options again?

>>1239069
I'd say Fishery+Whaling for 10. Hunt down some Leviathans.

>>1239055
>>1239066
So our ancestor was some random Ironborn raider that was given a hand of noble lady owning some shit tier part of swamp at the Upper Blue Fork.
But as soon as local population decided to rebel against Ironborn we decided to betray our king, accept Seven as our Lords and saviours and bend the knee to Ironborn hating Mallisters.
As the result despite being Ironborn we are kind of accepted but still disliked.

Our later history, with exception of some kind of genetic madness that shows every couple generations, was boring and in years we managed to convert our shitty swamp to some kind of working trading town.

?

>>1239069
Herb Fields from OoSP, costs 5 wealth

A guild of some sort would be nice, 15 wealth

Gods Wood, 5 wealth. If we go Old Gods, it's kinda a must

>>1239069
Food Agriculture is 5
Fishery is 5
Herb Field is 5
Apiary is 5
Textile Agriculture is 5
Animal husbandry is 10
A Maester is 10
Can't have them all.

I'd go with the maester or do fishery+one of textile/food/herb/apiary

>>1239079
Fishery for 5 might interest us, upgraded with Processing for 5 for more dosh, a Shipwright for 10 might interest us if we want a stronger navy, a Maester for 10 is never a bad option.

>>1239113
>>1239117

Oh shit, yeah we need a Maester for sure.

My vote is Port+Marketplace+Maester+Fishery. For 35, sit on the other 4 for a rainy day.

>>1239099
Here's what I thought it was:

We were a small "noble" family, a bit odd but proud, and Hoare decided to grant us some land. Instead of some nice territory, we get a piece of shit swamp. Bitterness is fostered, and we side with the Mallisters (who are suspicious but need allies), only for Hoare to get burned alive in Harrenhal.

To end up placating the Riverlords, we convert to the Seven and intermarry over generations and become bannerman. The overall population of the Riverlands (that actually know of us) think we're shit Ironborn, but the Mallister family and our own populace think we're pretty good.

Despite the good ol Ironborn insanity, we manage to turn our shit swamp into a functioning trading port, and made it into a decent sized hamlet.

>>1239104
It makes sense for us to have a goodswood if we really are old.

How abput a temple or something? Justan indescript ancient temple, peehaps with some goodswood traits within it, but one of our mad ancestors burned the tree?

>>1239113
cant get a master, we don't have enough influence

the Peat Gatherers homebrew could be good, it's cheap and makes artisan craftsman cheaper too

Vineyards are 10 wealth, but give us House Fortune +1, Wealth +1, Reduce cost of Artisan Craftsmen (Vintner) by 2 Wealth.

>>1239124
I'll back this guy I guess

>>1239128
Aren't we the Seven followers? Might've missed something on my part

>>1239126
I like this one.
>>1239136
Seven won, I think and it makes more sense for integrating.

>>1239128
We're 7 not old gods

>>1239136
But due to our location and history, heresy is abundant. Im talking about an indescript temple with godswood traits that we took over or mabye never knew were on our lands, the weirwood was burned at somepoint, possibly by a madman. Thus we have a repurposed ancient temple as a sept. Makes for an interesting story

>>1239135
>>1239136
>>1239124
I'll allow the Maester even without the Influence needed. It'll help represent we're old and respectable, even if we're not well remembered.

>>1239136
>>1239139
>>1239140
We follow the Seven, but we have a small but considerable Drowned God cult wandering about too.


Now, we need to do our Power holdings! Oh this is such fun.

One note for houseruling, every Warship comes with an equal group of Sailors for free, because it just feels stupid otherwise.

>>1239091
I like this, whaling would give us a good trade good. if we don't get it at the beginning, it would be a nice investment later on

>>1239113
>>1239117
>>1239124
we need 20+ influence to get a maester, we only have 13

>>1239148
Heresy is boring.

>>1239148
could have the faces of the Seven carved from weirwood wood that once stood in a Godswood

>>1239124
I think the port is taking 15 because of the Trader's warehouse addon so getting the fishery right then is incompatible with the maester.

Though keeping the 4 wealth is a wise move as we'd only need one wealth to pour into to get one of the 5s.

>>1239135
OoSP changed the maester cost to only require 10 wealth.

>>1239155
How so?

>>1239159
Thats fucking evil

This is shaping up to be vary intriguing.

The time is coming right after the Greyjoy Rebellion, were Balon tried to get independence. Our lord Jason Mallister just killed one of his kids for Christ sakes.

We reside in the most anti-Ironborn region in the Seven kingdoms right after a bloody and needless war, and we reside under a anti-Ironborn lord who while he thinks we're great, probably has other lords questioning why the fuck there are Ironborn in the Riverlands, and worrrying about the fact we have drowned god cult in our lands

There's a whole persecution storyline here

>>1239159
I'll support this for lore reasons, helps create an interesting setting

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>>1239152
So.

>[A] Trade Good
Marketplace, Port+Traders' Warehouses, Maester

>[B] Fish Good
Marketplace, Port, Maester, Fishery

Fifteen minutes to vote, gents.

>>1239152
trained or veteran archers would be good for fighting those pesky Ironborn

Trained or veteran heavy infantry, bought the best steel from the Vale to outfit them

A special unit of axemen to reflect our Ironborn history, I'll leave their key abilities up for debate

And obviously we need at least one war ship

>>1239186
>probably has other lords questioning why the fuck there are Ironborn in the Riverlands

Eh. If House Kenning of Kayce can do it in the fucking Westerlands I'm sure we can manage here.

>>1239195
>[A] Trade Good

>>1239195
>>[A] Trade Good

>>1239195
>>[B] Fish Good

Fish those goods son.

>>1239195
>[A] Trade Good

>>1239195
>[A] Trade Good
Marketplace, Port+Traders' Warehouses, Maester

I want that fishery, but if we are gonna play an Ironborn lord, we're gonna need a surgeon

>>1239195
>[A] Trade Good

>>1239195
>[B] Fish Good
Only because it'll allow us to go full merchant faster, oy vey.

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>>1239195
Pretty unanimous, I think we can cut the voting short and call it for Marketplace, Port+Traders' Warehouses, Maester. Lets us sit on 4 Wealth too, which is never bad.

Now, Power Holdings.

We have 36 Power! We should get atleast one decent unit of Warships.

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>>1238979
Seven for sure.

I'm also a fan of

(1) House Hoare gave us a stretch of land to develop and take care of.

(2) We switch loyalties . Could be for personal gain, could be because we think House Hoare weren't taking the Ironborn threat seriously enough?

(3) Something seriously crazy. One of our ancestors announces a campaign to end the Ironborn threat once and for all. A ridiculous endeavour given our relative strength, but since everyone around us hate them so much it didn't -really- come back to bite us in the butt.

(4) and (5) Infrastructure: I guess we mostly followed House Mallister's lead. They've always been the staunchest defence against the Ironborn raiders so, as long as we supported them, our lands remained fairly secure and allowed to develop.

Thematically I guess it makes sense for us to be a vassal of House Mallister? Or at least a very minor ally of theirs.

Personally, these quests tend to be too heavy on the 'just as planned' character. For once I'd like us to create a character that would prefer to solve his problems by hitting them, resorting the subterfuge only when violence isn't an obvious answer.

>>1239253
>Warships
WE'RE IRONBORN

>Guerillas
Works well in the Swamp

>Infantry

>Sailors

>Criminals
No use, just interesting.

>Cavalry

Training is

>Trained

>>1239265
We got Ironborn roots. Punching shit really hard, or ramming a ship into it is probably plan A a lot of the time.

>>1239253
Veteran Warships - 12
Veteran Personal Guards - 11
Trained Archers - 6
Trained Infantry - 7

Fluff the Personal Guard as either Knights or a band of axemen like someone above suggested.

>>1239253
Trained warships-10
Trained sailors-7
Veteran archers-7
Elite garrison-9

Thats 33 power with 3 in reserve

>>1239265
The second one I think should be because we're a prideful bunch despite our size, and instead of us interpreting it as Hoare asking us to develop land, we view it as him giving a dirty swamp over to us.

Thus, betrayal.

>>1239253
Veteran Heavy Infantry (Homebrew) Cost: 10 Power
Trained Warship Cost: 10 Power
Trained Garrison Cost: 5 Power
Trained Engineers Cost: 5 Power
Trained Archers Cost: 6 Power

>>1239291
Also, turned out we were really good at governing land. I mean, we got some bitchin' rolls, even with the Madness.

>>1239288
Sailors come free with Warships. Any group of Warships automatically get a group of equal level Sailors to go with them. That's a houserule of mine.

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>>1239186
I like it.

It makes sense for us to be all about hating the Ironborn twice as much as any of our neighbors, because we're trying to prove something, and yet secretly hanging on to certain traditions (such as baptising babes?) and other quirks that would ensure we never quite lose the link to our Ironborn heritage despite our conversion and gradual gentrification. We certainly should condemn the drowned god cult and work to quash it, but we should also feel vaguely guilty or reluctant about doing so.

Extra drama points if we are torn up about it, unsure whether to raise our children as 'proper' Rivermen or keep that which makes our House unique.

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>>1239296
forgot pic of Heavy Infantry

>>1239253
Vet Warships 12
Vet Archers 8
Vet Sailors 7
Trained PG 9

The Sailors+warship combo could be our Ironborn root. The warships are only used in ship to ship combat and they somehow can't do shit to the men on those ships they're fighting, you'd need sailors/archers for that.

>>1239296
I'll vote for this. However I think we should swap out Engineers for something else. Not sure why we'd have them, they don't assist ship building or any such thing.
Every damn time people go for Personal Guard because it sounds cool. Makes no bloody sense.

>>1239296
Ok, this is great. One thing though: why engineers? This is coming from someone who really gets a hard on for combat engineers. Whats the thematic reason for them other than they are usefull?

>>1239305
Super dope.

>>1239305
So, it could tie back into the pride thing.

"Oh, so you're giving us some fuckin' swamp? We'all shoe you Hoare, this place will be the new Kings Landing, just you wait"

>>1239307
I'm digging it

It could lead to drama with the Mallisters, as Jason might be pressured by the nearby lords into persecution, despite the fact that he harbors a good trust in us.

DRAMA

>>1239265
>For once I'd like us to create a character that would prefer to solve his problems by hitting them, resorting the subterfuge only when violence isn't an obvious answer.

I for one would love to play the Royce Redward character for once.

Which reminds me, are we going to be spending our Influence? We have enough for a first-born daughter at least. Or are we going to do the usual /tg/ thing and be a young bachelor Lord?

Personally I think it would be fun to be a middle-aged Lord with a daughter in her early teens whose mother died in child birth. Part of the game would be finding a new wife to produce a son.

For our house motto, maybe somethong that referes to getting what you put in?
The opposite of we do not sow, we sow the seeds of our future and the future of our house and when the time comes, we reap the fruits of our labor

>>1239309
This one is really thematic.

Ironborn usually have a distinct advantage because they wear heavy armour during sea combat. It'd be fluffy and in character for our house to be one of the only Riverlander Houses that practice something similar due to our own heritage.

>>1239331
Interesting.

We could be a handsome middle aged guy, but hardheaded, rude and a bit crass. Sweet guy, but not in tune to court subtleties.

A true Ironborn.

>>1239336
fruits of labor are all the sweeter

>>1239331
I remember a failed ironborn quest a way back, the MC was the last of his house, young and skilled of arms. But he belived his house was haunted and wanted to get down to the bottom of any possible occult shit.

Bassicly a noble that was a witcher on the side. Personally really liked that character, even if it was a bit edge.

>>1239326
The Silk Guard, the Bloodsmith and the Sons of Gold are why, they're the game changer in the fields. The twenty good men meme is real.

>>1239281
>>1239288
>>1239296
I'm looking at everything, kinda getting this feel of...

Veteran Warships+Personal Guard 18
Trained Garrison 5
Trained Archers 6
Trained Infantry 7

Total 36? Our Personal Guard are badass big armored warrior dudes who favor big axes, and fight best as boarders and raiders off the boats.

>>1239352
Short and to the point. I like it. If we're descended from the Ironborn then wouldn't something too fancy be too out of character?

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>>1239328
I have a hard on for them, and love the idea of our little holding being able to destroy any invaders before they can even reach us with arrows. Hell, if we get some special NPC's, we could revolutionize sea combat with ballista. Plus the Iron&Hate quest proved that engineers are OP when they have something to hide behind

>>1239340
this too, I like the idea of an Ironborn adapting to the changing world

>>1239361
I like this idea.

>>1239331
As you say, young bachelor Lord is overdone.

I wouldn't mind a middle-aged Lord with a young daughter, looking to both find her a suitable marriage and also hook ourselves up.

>>1239336
"You reap what you sow" ?

-Lord Hoarse gave us shit land, we turned on him.
-We invested time, effort and heartache into the land so we actually made something off it.
-Flies in the face of Ironborn that just take stuff instead of making it.

I'm not saying my words are perfect, but we should get something that sort of reflects our disdain for the Ironborn ways.

My motto idea:

Strength From Toil

>>1239291
>The second one I think should be because we're a prideful bunch despite our size, and instead of us interpreting it as Hoare asking us to develop land, we view it as him giving a dirty swamp over to us.
>Thus, betrayal.
We vowed that for this insult we will see the line of Hoare extinguished and joined the rebbelion.
Guess what happened?
Hoare is no more, and his line ended with him.
Guess who is responsible for this?
Of course we are it was our vow that brought dragons to Harrenhall, I'm totally serious.

>>1239377
I actually really like those house words. It fits what we have so far.

We sow, we reap, we grow.

>>1239388
>>1239381
I really like both of these

>>1239369
>that ballista
Whew lad

>>1239361
Heavy infantry sounds nice, but on ship based combat... meh mabye, that personal guard sounds pimpin though.

>>1239381
Work Hardened

short and simple, works best if we get some old bronze weapons passed down as trophies

>>1239388
I'm backing this

>>1239361
>Veteran Warships+Personal Guard 18

Oh now there's an idea. I can dig the combo idea like Malroy's Archers+Cavalry.

I'm in.

>>1239377
>>1239388

Anything with the word reap in it I'm game for. Just so we can throw a middle finger to the Lord Reaper Greyjoys.

>>1239388
I'm game if only for the chance to say "Sow, Reap. Grow motherfuckers" at some point

To be clear, is it

"Sow, Reap, Grow."

or

"We sow, we reap, we grow."

or

"We reap what we sow."

>>1239426
>"Sow, Reap, Grow."

>>1239426
>"Sow, Reap, Grow."

>>1239426
Both 1 and 2.
2 is official and said in official situation or when we think we should sound dignified.
1 is shorter version used more commonly as something you'd say without thinking under you nose.

>>1239426
>"Sow, Reap, Grow."

>>1239426
>>1239426
"We Reap what we Sow"

And there's so many instances we could say that, especially when getting back at someone.

>>1239437
Seconding this.

>>1239426
>Sow, Reap, Grow

>>1239437
Actually this makes alot of sense.

>>1239442
Sow, Reap, Grow is official, but this is our action one liner.

>>1239399
Absolutely not.

Personal Guard is a 1/5th the size of normal formations. So instead of 5 warships you are looking at 1 (albeit crewed by badasses). Fuck that.

>>1239437
I'm down with that.

Not exactly a war chant, but a mantra you might mutter to help you get through something or deal with bad times.

>>1239426
>sow,reap,grow
>>1239442
This is what we said when we betrayed lord hoarse and this should be our lannisters always pay there debts

>>1239437
I dig it. Sow, Reap, Grow can be a sort of oath, chant, mantra, or unofficial saying, something we mutter under our breath, while We Sow, We Reap, We Grow is the official. We Reap what we Sow is our one liner.

>>1239453
Nah, you'd have 5 warships, with 20 sailors each, and 1 badass Personal Guard dude on each one (or all gathered on one if we want them all with us).

>>1239341
Middle aged sounds good.

Perhaps we were married in our youth but our wife died during childbirth along with our son and we never really got over it.

Now as we age we have some sharks from our extended family circling as they want our land and title once we die.

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>>1239453
I think buying a unit of warships only gives you the one ship. By getting a personal guard, we outfit the ship with one of the most disciplined forces. Without them, the sailors would have to do the fighting

correct me if I'm wrong, none of the GoT quests I've been in have had warships before

>>1239460
Sorry, FOUR PG dudes on each one. Not one. Derped there for a sec. You have twenty of your personal guard, four to a ship, or all with you if you wish. Generally they're where you want them, but four to a ship is their standard design.

>>1239466
Nah, a unit of Warships is 5 ships.

A unit is either 100 Infantry, 20 Cavalry/Personal Guard, or 5 Ships.

What will our house name be?

Blackett sounds cool to me.

>>1239471
Now, we want to be a middle aged man, with a first born child? So that's 10 Influence invested in a first born daughter.

Realm:
The Riverlands

Defense:
30/33 Invested
Small Castle

Influence:
10/13 Invested
First Born Daughter

Lands:
26/29 Invested
Wetlands, River, Small Town

Law:
42
+0 House Fortune

Population:
37
+3 House Fortune

Power:
36/36 Invested
Veteran Warships+Personal Guard 18
Trained Garrison 5
Trained Archers 6
Trained Infantry 7

Wealth:
35/39 Invested
Marketplace
Port
-Traders' Warehouses
Maester

History:
-Old
Infrastructure
Treachery
Madness
Infrastructure
Infrastructure
Favor
Ascent

Roll Bonuses:
House Fortune +6
Wealth Bonus +2

Loss Mitigation:
Wealth +1
This should be our sheet.

Now, we need names! Our House, our character, our daughter, our castle, our town.

We need to design our character in general. I can stat him once we have our design and outline.

>>1239464
Yes, I'm all about it. Only having his little girl around left to remember her by will be a fun way to explore the character. And give him more cause to fight the vultures who would wish her harm.

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>>1239480
Blackett...or Beckett?

>>1239487
We gunna be overprotective and loving father?

I can dig it. Give us a softer side to the hardcore badass.

>>1239484
>Lord
Vickon, middle aged dude. Crass, rude and unsubtle, but well-meaning and fair.

>House Name
Blackett or Blackhand. Something with black in the name, sounds cool to me.

That's all I got, I'm not good with names.

>>1239484
Hogsmire should be our town name

>>1239506
I'd be down for those names. Blackett is my personal preference.

Suggesting Bethany for the daughter.

>>1239512
or at least ___mire should be the town name

Darkmoor, cool castle name right there.

>>1239506
Vickon Blackett? Vickon is distinctly Ironborn, or atleast Greyjoy, speaks to our roots well. Anyone got anything better? And what about his personality and general design? I get the feeling he's a fighter, but has a real canny mind for managing his lands. Probably a fair number of bonus dice in Stewardry.

>>1239513
Bethany sounds fine to me. Though not quite... odd enough for GoT. Maybe it's just all the Brans and Rickons and Petyrs and all that.

>>1239530
Ironmoor maybe? Darkmoor just sounds a bit too... edgy, I guess?

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>>1239506
Sounds good
>>1239530
>Darkmoor
JK

>>1239484
>>1239487

According to the rulebook, we can have more children. It's just that the influence buys children that are old enough to be of age.

>>1239513
I like Beth for our daughter's name. 10-12 years old?

As for the protagonist's age, mid 30's sound good? We'd still be able to fight well, and could remarry for political reasons. Seeing how we just have Beth, getting a male heir would do us a lot of good

Fenmire for town maybe. It basically means swamp swamp

>>1239546
There are several Bethany's in ASoiaF. Bethany Bracken, Rosby, Bolton.

>>1239546
Ironmoor I guess, didn't factor in the EDGE

>>1239558
Shiggy diggy

>>1239513
I don't like Bethany, or Beth. Sounds like an old woman's name, not fitting for the hard daughter befitting our house

>>1239550
I'm down for Blackett.

I think a scythe is too morbid for our house symbol. Maybe a crop of wheat? Or we could roll on the symbol table and see if there is some way to link it in.

Bethania as opposed to Bethany, perhaps? I think our Lord should have a guttural name, like Brock or Brundan.

>>1239569
>Brock
>Brundan

This ain't Pokémon nigga

>>1239569
Can we move away from the B names a bit...?

>>1239558
>>1239555
>>1239546
So, Vickon Blackett, Lord of Ironmoor and the city of Fenmire, father of Bethany Blackett.

>>1239569
Well, let's see then. Give me a roll on the table, see what we got. You roll 13d6 for mythical creatures and animals, I'll roll 15d6 for objects. See if either roll comes up with something interesting.

>>1239555
I was thinking 13 for the daughter. 34 for the Lord. Had her at 21, his second child (the one that died with his wife) when he was 23. So he's been single and in mourning for a bit over a decade and his daughter is just now beginning to bloom.

Suggesting House Piper for the wife that is dead though.

>>1239578
>suggested Blackett

>Bethany
>Bethania
>Brock
>Brundan