>>1254516

You met with a handful of lords, carefully trying to discuss the possibilities of meeting with and courting the unattached females of their families. You've three possibilities right now. Mariya Darry, Arriet Grell, and Lianne Roote. Each has their perks, and you need to consider it. Further, there's others you have yet to meet or learn of.

For now, however, you are tired of such things. Onwards, to things you're better with. Things you do not stumble at, and bumble through. You're not a people person, as it were. Much more a hurting people person. Thus, you collect your daughter, thanking the ser Silverwood for his kind aid, and head out into the yard. People are chatting and drinking here aswell, but primarily they are watching young knights and squires sparring. The youthful eagerness of the young fighters helps put a touch of pep in your step, and your warrior hearted daughter is full of goodcheer at getting to watch herself. Numerous knights and lesser lords mill about the edge of the yard, while the center is taken up by swordsmen fighting with wooden blades and shields.

>What do? Find someone to chat up? Scope out the young warriors for any who catch your eye? Talk to your daughter a time?
>Last thread >>1238116

>>1254518
Scope them warriors

>>1254518
Just mingle around people. Try to listen for interesting bits of news and rumours

>>1254518
>>1254531
Seconding

>>1254524
>>1254531
All this seems good

Also yeaaaaa! Second thread woop wooop!

>>1254531
Supporting,

>>1254531
This
If we want to get bigger we need to marry up
The highest we can possibly go is tully, Frey is off the table

>>1254613
Fucking Frey's man.
>>1254518
Scope out the meat.

>>1254613
There's no Tully to marry

>>1254637
I can't remeber if they had any cousins left before the greyjoy rebellion, but if they do we can marry off our daughter to them

>>1254650
No, pretty sure Edmure and Blackfish (He's never going to marry) are the last male line Tullys

>>1254531
Sure this

>>1254518
You wander around the edge with the other lords and knights, relaxing as the squires spar. None really impress you much, though Bethany seems excited at each little fight and clash of wooden sword on wooden sword. You pat her on the head and leave her to her watching as you quietly speak with various little lords and knights. Here, you're far less well known than amongst your trading partners and old friends inside, and are met generally as a blank slate. Various young knights compliment you on your work on the road, and are full of the usual bluster saying they'll be keeping an eye out, insuring no more such attacks dare take place, etcetera, etcetera.

"I understand you took a wound during the battle. It is good to see you so readily on your feet! I'd feared you waylaid when I heard you were struck in the side with a blade." A young knight in gold and blue says, his hair and eyes much the same. He's cocky and seems a bit full of himself, and you chuckle.

"A minor annoyance, good ser." You promise, and he nods. "A good crop of young squires, hm? This generation seems quite blessed." You muse, looking at the various fighters. He seems quite pleased.

"Few finer than my own squire, young Tyweth Lannstream. My own nephew, if I must be truthful. Ser Kellos Lannstream. At your service, ser...?" He offers his hand, which you shake readily enough.

"Lord Vickon Blackett." He bows his head at that. "Lannstream, hm? I assume a relation to..." He is all good cheer.

"Aye, the Lannisters. A cousin, distant in truth. I earned a place in the Riverlands when good Lord Grell was impressed with my actions in the war. Lured me from my golden home, he did!" He's all smiles and laughs. An idle eye cast back towards Bethany, and you note a rather devilish little smirk as she looks this way and that.

>Actions, words, etc?

>>1254684
Wan sum fug?

>>1254684
Move on, not interesting

>>1254684
Would our lands border House Grell? If so, ask after the state of his lands and whether they've had any trouble with bandits.
Also, he must have been quite young to have participated in the last war, right?

Anyway, other than that wish him well and carry on.

>>1254715
He's young- enough that you can juuust barely believe he was in his squirehood during the war.

>>1254717
In that case let's, mingle a.little more or go get some rest,

>>1254715
>>1254756
These are good

>>1254717
"Fascinating." You dryly remark, as the young man rambles about himself. Lannisters, they all believe their own hype. "If you will excuse me, I do not come to court often, and find myself needing to speak to a great many people. I wish you the best, young ser." The grown bloody man actually pouts slightly, but nods as you depart. Lannisters. Ugh. You find better uses for your time with ease. You mingle and amuse yourself by chatting with the young and stupid. You hear a collective 'oooh', and see a great many winces as a rather strong and proud looking boy, dressed in black and green manhandles... ah, good, it's that brat Rivertower. The spar is decidedly not in his favor. You spot Bethany watching with a very smug smirk on her pretty little face.

>What is the goal of your mingling? Not many young bucks are that interested in talking to an old nobody like yourself. You'll have to decide how and where you want to poke in your nose, or if you'd rather just relax and let the day end.

>>1254844
Let's give the black and green boy a pat on the back after the round is over.

>>1254844
I kind of want to open ourselves up to challengers, just to see if we meet anyone decent. Wouldn't hurt to recruit a few more knights to our house, young idiots who need a patron or lowborn hedge knights with talent.

>>1254844
Relax and watch the matches. We don't have to talk to everyone you know

>>1254854
This,

Or just retire for the night

We should heading back to our lands to ensure it is not raided, and for ua to get more land after

>>1254844
Go ask Bethany if she likes what she sees.

>>1254854
Supporting

>>1254854
Sounds good

>>1254844
"So, pleased with this turn of events?" You ask your daughter, having arrived at her side. You speak as quietly as possible, even with the other lords and knights observing the fight, best not let them hear this.

"Why, of course not, father. I'd never condone such violence. Why, I was simply telling the nice young man of what that silly boy said to me before, and he charged off before we finished speaking." She says, arms crossed and smug smirk firmly in place. Ah, there's Alys, writ in miniature. Atta girl. You pat her gently atop the head, and continue on your way. You think, for a few moments, of having a bit of fun with the various knights, accepting all challengers and schooling the young bucks in how an old war hero handles things. But you remember Ser Silverwood's injury, and decide it best to hold off. This is too friendly an atmosphere, you might ruin the whole thing if you shatter someone's ribs or bust all their teeth out. Instead, you merely pat the black and green lad on the back when you pass by him later, giving him a grin.

The fights continue for a time, before the festivities start to break up and people begin returning to their own business. Probably wise to have any last minute talks with the people here, before everyone goes about their way.

>Anyone you'd like to chat up?

>>1254987
The Darry girl, let's find out how smart she is, she could be very useful.

>>1255013
I'm OK with that

>>1255013
Supporting

>>1255013
This works

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>>1254987
You find your way back into Seagard, leaving Bethany to her fun. Silverwood's got an eye on her, as commanded. Many of the little lords and ladies are still talking, others drifting away. You've a focus on one, though. You find her on a balcony overlooking the yard, a servant having pointed you in the right direction. "Lady Darry. A pleasure." You address her as you approach. She favors you with a slight smile.

"Lord Blackett." She curtsies lightly to you. "I was observing the fun in the yard. Pray, what did the foolish young toadspawn do to get on your darling daughter's bad side?" She asks, then laughs and waves it off. "Twas easy to see she wanted to handle it herself, I caught her trying to sneak off. Admitted she intended to dress as a squire and thrash the boy while hiding her identity, like she was the Knight of the Laughing Tree!" Mariya Darry laughs even as you tiredly sigh and rub your eyes. "I convinced her it might be wiser to have another fight her battles, atleast this once." She seems rather amused at the whole thing.

>How would you like to chat up the lady Mariya Darry? What subject do you stick to? Wander onto the idea of courting and a marriage?

>>1255186
OP is sorry this took so long. Minor accident while changing a lightbulb ended up with the globe that goes over it on the ceiling shattering bloody everywhere.

>>1255186
Talk about your family fortunes and your desire to raise the influence of the house. Tell her of your need of an intelligent woman by your side. Hint hint
>>1255195
Ouch

>>1255186
We should react surprised That Lady Darry here even managed to convince our daughter to not fight the lad. That is an attractive prospect to be already able to handle our little girl.

>>1255243
I would say that's too blunt but knowing vickon...DO EEEET

>>1255186
It's great that she likes Bethany btw, she could help Beth mature

>>1255271
Actually, knowing our awkward character, I say we be blunt as possible lol

>>1255186
keep talking about about Beth, ask for some pointers about raising a teenage girl

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>>1255243
I like her too anon, but we can't lock down on her before we check out the tourney

hell, we could get a chick from House Tully if we win the melee

>>1255305
This, let's keep our options open

>>1255305
Yeah but there no Tully girl left. And for the love of God please no HDW

>>1255186
Thank her and say a couple of ignorant lads were relaying their expectations of a lady should live her life.

>>1255186
This is before the greyjoy rebellion
Cousins exist
>>1255305
This
We need to keep our options open and try to keep the freys out of our pants

>>1255243
Tis

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>>1255329
there a probably a couple cousins or cadet houses that have daughters of marrying age

or we could find a house that has a good control of the trident lower down. it's important to keep our options open

>>1255373
Right
Our house will not grow strong making rash we will always go for the best options to plant a better oppritunity for the next generation

>>1255401
Fuck me i could have worded that better
I meant to say that the best way we can grow is by making the best choices possible, not rash choices

>>1255373
I'm for keeping our options open anon, but in the books she married a Frey so by showing an interest in her we have a fallback option

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>>1255463
oh fuck, nope. we have to wife her now

poor girl doesn't deserve that

>>1255477
Why don't you like Walda, or little Walder, Walter, Wanda, Walder, Walder?

>>1255477
Anon this is game of thrones
Bad things happen to people
Just because reek was a thing doesn't mean we should save that dirty fucking greyjoy
In all reality, marrying into the freys, while not ideal, isn't the worst thing that could happen to you

>>1255477
That's not a good reason. Let her handle her own problems.

>>1255505
Personally, i like walder, but walder is a close second

>>1255512
The best reason not to save the Greyboy is because he's a Greyjoy.

As to the Frey issue, there's already enough of them as is. We can only genocide so fast.

>>1255530
>We can only genocide so fast
I kekd

>>1255530
When the civil war happens, i say we align with the crown instead of the north

The reason we sided with robert is because we saw the writing on the wall, we were loyalist through and through but we chose what was best for our house

In the end the north was going to lose anyways

>>1255512
Marrying a Frey comes second worst to being tortured a Bolton dungeon. But we've a rivalry with the Freys, we can't just let her marry those weasels

>>1255186
You regard her with a cocked eyebrow. "Hold there, lady Darry. You mean to tell me you convinced my daughter to not thrash the boy with her own hands? I'd kneel before your might, but I fear you might not let me up." You joke, and her smirk upturns a touch. "A couple of fool lads, that boy in the lead, thought to relay their expectations of how a lady should live her life." You explain, and she scoffs, scorn coloring her voice.

"Barefoot and with child?" She asks, and you bow your head in agreement. She sighs. "Frogspawn. I know their thoughts on the matter well. As I warned you before, my sister was married to one by my fool brother. She's two children already." She seems disgruntled by the whole idea. You can understand, you've no love of Freys, and they little of you. Oh aye, they'd find a wife for you in but a split second, but you know it'd take nothing less than bending the knee to the old toad Frey himself.

"My condolences. Your brother mentioned you as well were seeking a husband, no?" You ask, coughing into your fist a bit. She laughs innocently enough at your awkwardness, and bids you continue. "I... may consider an agreement with your house?" It's almost a question. "I could use an intelligent woman, one who could help my family flourish and its status rise. But... you must understand, tis not a decision to make lightly. I've a responsibility to make the right choice, for my house, for my daughter..." Her laugh this time is more gentle- sad even. You go still as she approaches you, adjusting your slightly askew doublet.

"I might be interested. You're the first fellow to come along, look at me as more than just a pretty young thing. If I were you, though... I'd consider making my choices soon. My dear fool brother is considering selling out to the Freys once again. Ser Merrett Frey has asked for my hand, and I can only ward off those two fools for so long." She muses, her smile sad as she smoothes the velvet over your barrel chest. You feel a tightness in your chest- the first time a woman has doted on you in a decade. "Farewell, lord Blackett. I'll keep a watch out for Ravens." As she departs, you release a breath you hadn't notice you'd been holding.

>Actions? You've time left to visit with either Roote or Grell now, but not both. Silverwood will probably be wandering along with you after this, so you don't need to worry about tracking him down.

>>1255543
Can't do that, Mallisters are loyal to the North. Not a wise and honorable thing to betray him

>>1255545
We have no idea if she marries freys right now, that and our house is about the long term
Even if we slightly fuck over the freys, in the end we don't gain as much as we could have

Guys you are forgetting the main reason qe are marrying

To have a hair, to find some love and to find someone Beth likes

The power and alliances. While good, are secondary to our arrangement.

We sould ask if she would be interested, not her house, thats the first step to find a good companion

Again, I'm not saying we commit to her, but however we choose must be because of personality and affinity with our family, the power is a bonus not the goal

Vickon is a soft heart like that, he would agree

>>1255549
WE MUST MARRY THE DARRY!
Also lets start looking into who that squire who helped our daughter hails from.

>>1255559
While finding someone we love would be nice, marrying up is the best option
If we had the choice of marrying a baratheon(fucking impossible, but hypothetical situation) or a low born, baratheon is always the choice to go

Love is the secondary priority, getting a powerful heir is

>>1255590
It's not love, its the internal stability provided by someone we have affinity with and that can deal and get along with our daughter

>>1255590
With our shit influence we're not going to marry anyone important. So someone like her who can control and teach Bethany is more useful, plus she seems smart

>>1255653
I wouldn't say never, if i remeber correctly our wife was a frey(which is why the freys are so pissed at us)

>>1255661
I dont think our wife was a frey I think it was our grandmother.

>>1255661
Our mother was a Frey. Our wife was a Piper. Part of the reason the Freys creep you out is they keep offering you these marriage deals which are juuust far enough to not trigger the legal definition of incest.

>>1255669
It was our mother

>>1255661
With the amount of Freys in the Riverlands, I wouldn't consider them important. Hell, they're giving away brides to everyone

>>1255549
Anyway, let's Check out roots, since we haven't made a choice yet, too busy discussing waifus

>>1255549

Talk with silverwood and go to bed

Tomorrow we ride back to prepare our forces to battle the raids with wargames

>>1255559
This guy is right, get him some minor title.
Marring for power might be good for Frey or Lannister fags, but it is not Blackett's way.

>>1255553
It seems that lord Mallister is our bro so we can't betray him. Silverwood is cadet branch of Blackwood other canon supporter of north.
We are going to end in Frey's dungeon.

in future:
>There is one king in Riverland and his name is STARK
>Bethany Blackett

>>1255775
Nah mate we're gonna get killed in the red wedding

>>1255794
>Imply we have enough renown to be invited to it.

>>1255775
Even if they're our bros....we gotta do what's best for fenmire,blacksoil and Bethany, so not everything is in stone

Also, to be clear, those who want a Tully? There's a chance of this somewhere between 'no' and 'if you literally kick every Ironborn ever in the dick'.

If you REALLY want to pursue that, it will be possible, but marrying into a Great House is a big deal for a major house, and you are really close to just being considered landed knights.

>>1255694
Thats the way the tullys got strong
Marriage is king in the riverlands

>>1255808
We're wayyy to honourable to betray anyone

>>1255815
>if you literally kick every ironborn ever in the dick
Greyjoy rebellion is coming up
I wouldn't doubt that happening

>>1255794
Let's not kill Vickon plaese, I love the guy

And Beth is too annoyingly perfect, like: " Check my OC, she is beautiful, very talented with sword and words and can get anyone to do what she wants, she also is a badass knight in training that can beat any other studants ass, she is extremelly deadly with her sword but she posses a great rage inside of her, you don't want to get on her bad side, and she is angst because she will lead a house even being a woman and will face that challenge because she is better than anyone else at it, and don't forget that she will find the super speshuul family sword too."
The only thing that's missing is eyes of diferent colors and 1 angel and 1 demon wing.


I want to have a hair soon so she can be a badass general

>>1255832
Harwyn
Roberts rebellion
In each of these situations, we chose what was best for the house, whether we agreed with it or not

>>1255835
Too meta 4 me

Also, lads, I'm not seeing any proper votes. Just discussion. I welcome the talking, all quests thrive on working shit out, but we need a vote so I can figure out what to do. I see one for Roote, one for moving on, and one for marrying the Darry.

>>1255815
This. Remember the Great Houses are closer to royalty than to those beneath them.

>>1255842
Holy shid my sides

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>>1255796
Make it a plot point, get enough influence and you're locked in to die, but good thing wil come to you until then. Keep a low lewel and you'll be alive to wage war another day but you'll have shit marriage prospect for Bethany.

>Get too much Influence and you'll die at the Red Wedding, but you'll slap some sense in Edmure and he'll let Tywin fall into Robb's trap.
>Get low Influence score and facepalm at Edmure fucking it up. Red Wedding happens and Walder will send minstrels playing the Rains of Castamere everytime you refuse him a marriage.

>>1255848
Send marriage proposal now fuck it

>>1255835
It's 2 years from now, we are not getting any younger, let's grow throug war with.vickon and set up better mariages for the next generatioms

>>1255848
If nothing happens or no one votes, just change mine to moving on

>>1255848
Send an invite to Darry.

>>1255848
Darry, but if we can wait a little without losing her do so. It sounded like she was getting pursued pretty hard by the Freys, so if we have to make a move now or never do it. She seems *smart*, which, aside from fertility to provide more heirs, is really what we need. Our strength is our trade, and we need a lady who can help things run smoothly while we worry about keeping trade safe and bashing irondick heads in. Plus she seems like she'd be great with Bethany.

I'd prefer not to just go for the first woman we met, but if that's how the game works that's how it works.

>>1255842
I should note, Bethany currently does not know shit about fighting. She'd have gotten her ass handed to her and humiliated if you had not gotten on Darry's good side earlier. She's a thirteen year old girl, she only got the better of the bandit because she stabbed him in the neck from behind after he bitch slapped her and triggered her free attack.

>>1255856
>>1255872
>>1255878
Anons, please, let's not be hasty, going for the first option is just...ehh, we haven't even MET anyone else yet

>>1255878
I also wanted to point out there's really something to be said for allying deeply and closely with a house in Darry's downriver location. That would at least get our name out there end-to-end across the Riverlands, and maybe help boost our overall position if we can get some sort of a unified tax/economic policy on river shipping going. Maybe even have enough clout if we join forces to get the Tullys to do something good for us regarding the canal.

I'm not sure if Vickon is politically minded enough to consider all of this or if this is too meta, but even he should see "trade vital --> downriver port connections good".

>>1255917
Everyone else is either terrible, out of our league or all the above.

>>1255917
The game of thrones is fast and ruthless. Waste your chance and you might not get another

>>1255920
>>1255921
>>1255930
Eh, screw it, ten fathoms deep!

>>1255890
Yeah m8, I know, we haven't started training her yet, it was meant as a joke

>>1255920
Ok, let's marry and make a warm up tourney to the Tully's to celebrate it, hehehe

So, get in contact with Ser Darry then, and tell him you're interested? For now, this equates to moving on, as it's not something that will just happen today. Writing now, with moving on and heading home. So I don't have to interrupt with a stupid question, nobody minds if Silverwood tags along with us, aye? His home is on the other side of our own from here.

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if we do end up marrying the Darry girl, I know one thing she'll love about House Blackett

She will finally get to have nice dresses in colors that aren't various shades of brown

>>1256010
All good

>>1256010
Of course we dont mind

>>1256010
You watch her walk away, slowly nodding to yourself. Aye. Aye, that was... acceptable. She's sharp, and was able to talk Bethany out of getting herself deep into trouble. The Darry's could be decent trade partners, if nothing else allowing you to get word out amongst the area, help you find contacts. As well, her brother is without heirs, and she the eldest sister. You'd stand to inherit Darry and the lands about it if he did not manage a proper heir. You stroke your chin. Aye, as well, she is... pleasant to see, and invokes a stirring in your tired old chest.

Yes. You think a raven might be on its way, in short order. You allow yourself a smirk. If it pisses off the bloody Freys as well, all the better.

Within short order, you've rounded up your daughter and your knights, all five of whom smell vaguely of harder alchohol than wine. As you seek Azla, you find him tending to ser Silverwood. "Aye lord, ready shortly. The ser Silverwood has requested he be allowed to travel with us on the road home, to help offer protection." He muses, and the knight clears his throat, clearly wishing to speak for himself.

"The maester is quite right, lord. In this condition, I am far from fit to head to Riverrun as I'd originally planned. I intend to return home, to rest and recover, and thought it a good idea for us to travel side by side once more!" He explains, and your comfirmation that you'd not mind brings a bright grin to his face. "I thank you, lord Blackett." You wave him off. It's not long before you are prepared to depart, wishing farewell to your liege, Lord Mallister as you go. The man offers again to see about putting together a list of available ladies amongst his vassals, but you tell him to not be concerned. He allows your refusal easily enough, trusting a man of your age to handle his own damn business.

>Anything to handle on the road, or skip on?

>>1256157
Lets skip. Also what was the name of our rumored valyrian sword?

>>1256157
>skip on

>>1256157
Skeep

>>1256173
Shaper.

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>>1256198
Im looking up cool swords that may work.

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>>1256207

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>>1256198
what style of sword was it?

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>>1256244
We sword bred now

Nice sword porn mate

>>1256228
Hand and a half straight blade. Bit shorter than average, Logar was quite a short man.

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>>1256207
>>1256218
>>1256238
>>1256240
>>1256244
lets refrain from just dumping pics without saying anything. It just takes up space. Better to have a slow burn dump where you post a pic with each of your normal posts

and if we want a fancy sword, anything from Tod's Stuff would work

http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/swords/swords.htm
this too, amazing swords
http://templ.net/english/

>>1256278
Im a fan of kult of athena as Im sure you can tell by the images. They just collect stuff from all sorts of manufacturers to sell

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>>1256266
good to know, I'll see what I can find that would suit it

>>1256312
Oh jees im blushing...

>>1256312
That thing on the pommel is less than optimal however

>>1256266
The trip home is quiet. Good. Easy and simple. Various knights headed on their ways happen to travel nearby, all wearing just a tad bit more armor than would be considered polite in civilized lands. All with weapons not far from hand. Bethany swears up and down she could have taken the Rivertower lad, and you have to chastise her more than once there. "You're a young girl, who's had no training in how to wield a sword. He'd have slapped you around like that bigger lad did him." You note. She huffs.

"The lady in the brown dress was a lot nicer about it. Said he'd hold a grudge, an it could cause trouble if I beat him too bad, so better to have another boy do it. So she told me what to say to that Roote boy to get him to run off after him. He's apparently the cousin of that Lord Roote you spent so long talking to." She explains. You approve.

As you reach your own lands, the various knights all wander off their own ways, not wanting to take their horses into the marsh. Your horses are ready and sure, though, easily finding the narrow paths and roads. Ser Silverwood as well finally departs along the way, following the road that will lead him to his own home. You pull into Fenmire in good spirits, glad to be done with that whole mess. "I didn't like the smell." Bethany notes. "It didn't smell... right. Like, it was too... I don't know. You couldn't smell the water, and the ferns, and the fish." You nearly go into full on laughter, biting it down and just chuckling politely. Only someone born and raised their whole life in the Blacksoil would prefer the smell of the marshes to that of clean sea air.

>You've a list of things to do now. Get to preparing your lands, your city, and your family for the possibility of marriage. Sending off a raven to ser Darry explaining your interest, and offer of marriage and small alliance with his house. Arranging wargames and the training of troops. Ravens will fly to and fro with the various lords about the coastal patrols. How do we want to handle the various details and items? We'll be going into timeskip territory as we handle each item.
>In example, how do you want to handle the war games? Split up your units to fight eachother? Call in Ser Silverwood and see if his men would like to skirmish with ours?
>How much do you want to commit to the patrols, how many of your boats, and how often are you willing to let them be away from home?

>>1256380
>inferior pommel

and into the trash it goes. Ending our foes rightly is really important.

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>>1256376
>>1256380
Patrick Bárta knows his shit, I'd have him as a personal swordmaker if I won the lottery

then get a couple armorers recommended by Tobias Capwell

anyway, I found a couple sexy swords. Personal favorite doesn't match the style OP said it was but damn does it look good

>>1256407
Get out of here Skal

>>1256402
Porque no Los dos?
As for the notes, send most of em, keep our image and show ironborn that WE are better Ironborn than them,
SOW. REAP. GROW.

>>1256422
They ARE an Ironborn house. It'd be possible their family blade is in a style like that.

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>>1256402
I'm assuming Silverwood doesn't have many troops, considering he's just a landed knight. We could loan him our Ironbreakers and have some war games. He gets experience commanding a force he's not used to, and the rest of our army will have to work damn hard to fight off the Ironbreakers

>>1256402
For the war games, lets commission some heavy wooden training gear to add onto our soldiers' gear, have them split up into teams using a raffle. And every day have them march out in the swamps and beat the shit out of each other. Then on the weekends we can have a prolonged red team versus blue team type deal, where base camps are set up in private and the soldiers have to steal eachothers flags.

For the patrols, cycle in ships, split the sea around us into 5 zones and split our ships accordingly, patrol in a cyclical pattern so as the ships always have an opportunity to meet up with eachother.

>>1256440
>>1256422
These fucking swords mate.
I can only get so erect!

>>1256440
I like this

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>>1256431
the pommel doesn't fit though, I've fought with swords like it(though way less decoration), there's no way to hold them two handed

give me a good case of falchions over a one handed sword any day

>>1256445
this is good too

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>>1256455
those sneaky fuckers. I saved a picture of a nice sword and I get this?

>>1256455
>case of factions
>dual wielding like an animu
>not leaving your left hand free to bind or use a damn shield

>>1256440
I was going to suggest mixing squads from both of us between the two(?) sides but that sounds good.

>>1256445
Why not just blunted steel if you are going for heavy. We probably have more steel passing through our port than wood anyway.

>>1256455
Well you could round out the pommel at the edges more and extend the overall length of the sword.

That pommel shape is pretty bad for two handed use. Mabye flip it upside down?

>>1256460
factions --> falchions. Autocorrect. Point still stands tho.

>>1256244
This has to be the fav Ive seen so far.

>>1256463
Iron with lead fittings seem more appropriate. Steel, even if a bit shite, is still very valuable for us.

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>>1256445
>beating the shit out of each other
Top kek

>>1256468
It does look really comfy, pommel would be a bit too big foe my hands though

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>>1256460
I know it's useless in a war, but you can blame my dad. Got me into escrima as a little kid and I've stuck with it for 15 years now

it was a style for dueling back in the 1500s, no purpose on the battlefield, but it's effective against someone with a buckler or parrying dagger

>>1256402

Wargames: we simulate raids and ambushes

Patrols: send ravens to the nearby lords to recruit for the patrol, when everything is ready invite them to a feast to see the patrols off
Maester: send him to search for old documents that could strengten our claim on the cannal
lands, so we can petition them with the Tully's

We commit 2 ships if we get a lot of support and 3 if we don't, the rest should stay and defend the city, they should make weekly patrols I think

Marriage,: send a raven to Darry exlaining our interest, but don't ask for a marriage yet, just try to delay the Freys, if its not possible than propose, invite him to the patrol lunching feast so we can talk with them again

>>1256510
I'd honestly question if it's better than a bucker in a duel tho. I'm also just thinking of even in a dual situation in those same 1500s manuscripts for messers (Talhoffer, etc.) how many rely on snaking in the left hand.

Escrima is pretty cool, but isn't the dual wielding there more often with sticks [easier to parry with, closer to a bucker in defensive use] than knives? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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>>1256591
The reach advantage against a buckler is nice, though there are obviously ways to counter this. If you can bind up someone with two swords, you can usually score a hit. A major flaw with them is ranging, they're way better at long range. Up close, the guy with the buckler can slam your nose in. Closing the gap is usually the hardest part

Escrima tends to practice with sticks, partially because they're cheap, and you don't run the risk of cuts. Even with a blunted sword, pressure cuts are possible. Escrima has a lot of possible weapons, the sticks are stand ins(though I wouldn't want to fight with sticks without protective gear) for a type of short sword called Pinuti. You change your style a bit using them, but the general skills are the same

One thing to remember is that escrima is made up of a bunch of styles. It's got swords, blunt weapons, and knives all rolled under the same name.

>>1255844
>Harwyn
Humiliated us, broken feudal contract by giving us this shit land, totally justified, well in some way.
Also he was a dick.

>Roberts rebellion
I'n not sure what version is used in Westeros but it might have been:
Vassal of my vassal is not my vassal so lord of our lord is not our lord.
We are sworn to Mallisters not to iron chair so we did not betray anybody we loyally followed our direct liege.

Ok, I can't find it. How many dragons are in a point of Wealth?

>>1256726
200

>>1256402
>>1256577
+1
Plus let's invite our neighbours to wargames and maybe write to them about possibility of creation joint plan in event of ironborn attack.
If some lord more prestigious than us would like to take command, let him have it. Security is more important than glory.

>>1256736
To be precise 200 dragon are in one wealth until you reach 40, then you'll need 1000 to reach 41.

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>>1256726
I think it was 200 dragons, but can't find a source

found a dress for the wedding

>>1256766
Man, you guys are so useful. I love you guys.

>>1256766
How scandalous an exposed shoulder

>>1256778
But it's hot and humid in the swamps.

>>1256785
That's Dornish harlotry I smell.

>>1256785
I bet she is hot and humid at all times the wench

>>1256802
>>1256800
Top kek

>>1256774
You get things started. Ravens fly to and fro. Silverwood is eager and ready to bring his troops to play in your wargames whenever you like. He's well on the mend, but it's going to be a while before he can fight himself. He can take a back seat, of course, and swears his skill at commanding to your business. He brings a hundred men-at-arms, and would bring light cavalry... if not for the conditions of your lands making that almost literal suicide. As for the patrols, you get several lesser lords, as well as Mallister himself. You bid in two of your warships, the two finest, to sail on weekly patrols up and down the coast. They're welcomed with good heart.

On the home front, you have Azla begin delving into the family records in search of documents that will aid your work in petitioning the Tully's for control of the Canal. It shouldn't be hard, the canal is your family's greatest source of fame and glory. Further, your old friend Desmond Grell is, as always, as good as his word. A raven arrives from Riverrun, baring an invitation to the wedding of Lord Edmure Tully, and to compete in the tournament to accompany it. You should return a letter saying if you will be competing or not, and in what parts.

Another important aspect sees the start of Bethany's training. She begins to learn both to keep her rage under control, and the general idea of holding a sword. She's far from anything resembling competence, but she's on a quick rode. Her hands seem made to hold a blade, and she's eager as can be to learn. Time to think on how you wish to guide her training, and if you want to allow your knights to teach her as well. Kaisen is quite interested in helping, as are her usual handlers, Donnor and Maxon.

Finally... letters to and fro from Darry. The agreements are simple, you will have a thousand dragons as dowry, and in excenge Darry ships will have prefered treatment, and lower taxes in your port. Further, the usual agreements and friendships, to defend eachother's interests and works, to further eachother's houses, etcetera, etcetera. It'd be time to make any arrangements and agreements, anything specific you want from Darry, what you are willing to offer, that sort of things.

>RESPOND. Also anything else not covered?

>>1256920
That sounds fair to me I suppose.

>>1256920
Let the knights help out with Beth

Enter the melee.

Not sure to ask from Darry

>>1256920
TRAIN THE BETH IN THE ART OF WAR.

Holding a sword is nice and all but she is going to be more than that. She needs to start learning how to manage the house and troops if she is ever going to be a decent backup.

>>1256963
She's going to need to know to be a lady, too. Why pigeonhole her into only a warrior?

>>1256979
This. Training her self defense is good but what's more important is that she is able to survive a game of intrigue

>>1257028
That's where the new waifu comes in.

>>1256979
Thats why we are interested in Darry, shes going to help her become a smart lady. We can't teach her how to be a lady ourselves, can you imagine us trying to teach her the delicate mannerisms of a lady?

Pigs would fly before that happens

>>1256963
From what you understand, Silverwood specializes in leading men. Want to talk to him about teaching her?

>>1257051
Its as likely as a boar killing the king!

>>1257051
Oh christ, I just tried to imagine Vickon trying to teach Bethany how to be a proper lady. The mental image included him hunched over a tiny needlepoint tapestry.

>>1257075
>a boar killing the king
That's not impossible seeing many nobles die during hunts gone wrong irl.

Yo how old is Silverwood again?

>>1257070
Sure, if that is better than us doing it ourself. That way we can focus on teaching her how to LORD.

>>1257093
Twenty three.

>>1257104
Alright, so when Beth turns 16 or 18 we can just marry her off to him then. Not a huge age gap and we know he's a decent fellow. Plus he lives nearby.

>>1256920
Can someone explain to my why the Tullys would give us the canal? Sure our blood built it generations ago but it isn't ours now, they own it fair and square. As far as I can figure if we want to petition for it that would have to go to the crown. I mean we could bargain for a share in exchange for ??? but that isn't what I'm seeing described here.

>>1257084
He'd forget if you wipe the blood off your axe before or after you take sugar for your tea.

>>1257112
I assume we are going to file a medieval lawsuit. Without legal aid.

>>1257112
It's pretty simple. Your house lost it, simply, because it was not strong or influential enough to govern it securely. If you can prove your ability and claim, and grease the right hands and such, it could find its way back into your hands.

>>1256920
Begin preparations for the marriage, gotta make it a large feat with tourney and all. Invites all Riverlords and friends we now

>>1257125
But the Tullys could counter-grease hands so we would have to have some pretty good friends, right? Like ... Lord Frey!

>>1257139
Maybe keep it a smaller affair with the lords we are working with in defense against the Ironborn invaders, doubling the tourney as a meeting of commanders and proving ground for their best warriors.

>>1257143
WALDER GET OUT REEEEEEE!!!

>>1257143
I can only imagine you sneaking from castle to castle, leaving marriage contracts in the boxes of the lord's flaked corn.

>>1256920
IF beth is going to train on the family style she needs to double her calory intake and start a strrnght training routine. Our family's fighting style is all about bullying others with our str

>>1256920
>RSVP to wedding + enter melee
>Let our knights assist in Beth's training. Priorities are controlling her rage, dagger work, grappling and (if she really wants) swordfighting in that order.
Rather than formal lessons in warfare (Vickon has shown some concern about propriety) we can just keep her by our side while we oversee the wargames. She can get some first hand exposure to command while Silverwood and us drop pearls of warfare wisdom.
So are a we really moving this fast with the marriage negotiations?
I thought we were planning to scope out the talent at the tournament first?

>>1257225
>double her calory intake
No one likes fat chicks and Beth is into swords, not axes. Berserker mode can be used as a lost resort.

Before we handle anything else, we need to do some HOUSE FORTUNE!

We move into the sixth month of 287. Your nameday is next month. You roll 5k4 normally on your House Fortune, but due to the invitation to Lord Edmure's wedding, you get an upswing there, so we'll be rolling 6k4 instead!

First one linked will be accepted, no holding your hand this time, gents.

>>1256920

yes to wedding and enter the meele

I thought we would only teach Beth IF she behaved until her next name day, wasn't that what we agreed with her?

>>1257225
Give her a backpack full of stones and have her walk through soggy swamps.

>>1257255
Also, due to the House's stats, this roll's final result gains a +6 to it.

Rolled 5, 3, 2, 5, 2, 6 = 23 (6d6)

>>1257255

>>1257255
>57255 ▶
>Before we handle anything else, we need to do some HOUSE FORTUN

>>1257250

That's to create muscle together with the strengt training, she can't hold a sword right now.

If she wants to fight like a Blackett she has to be big as one

>>1257260
Things had to be moved up due to the whole Bloodrage thing.

>>1257269
A really solid roll! But sadly... it actually only comes out to Growth. +1 to one stat. Reminder, Wealth gives a hefty bonus of +3, so if you chose Wealth it will be a total +4.

>>1257282
Wealth. Weeaaaalllthhhhhh

>>1257282
Dosh is fine

>>1257281
But she doesn't need to fight exactly like a Blackett. It can be modified to fit her. style

Also, can we make the wedding on our name day and the local tourney to celebrate it? we have the cash and it would boost our influence

>>1257255
When will Edmure 's wedding be? I say we hold our own wedding on the Eighth moon, just before his.

>>1257302
This is fine too

>>1257304
It's in the tenth month.

>>1257298

her style is our style and the ironbrakers style, unless we send her off to other place to train.

I mean? how can a frail little thing like a 13 year old even fight, she has to bulk up if she expects to get any good, at least with what we have to offer around here

Also, to be strong would be a good battle advantage none the less

>>1256920
We should enter as many events in the tournament as possible, melee especially.

>>1257317
>bulk up
There go her chances of marrying then unless you find some "man" who likes chicks like that.

>>1257317
>>1257326
I'm sure a good middle ground would be to bulk her up enough to have some abs Korra style.

>>1257326
>>1257317
Current plans do not involve her bulking up. She's her mother's build, so she's going to be more of an agile fighter, assuming you lot don't get serious support to change that.

>>1257325
We will end up embarrassing our self and fucking up our hip more. Isn't archery one of the things? And it has been mentioned that we are a poor horseman.

>>1257326

her chances are already pretty slim considering that Vickon can't stop telling everyone how she is just like the perfect boy and all the command and battle training that we are planning to set upon her.

she will not attract many suitors, specially when we start having more kids, I say we focus on turning her into a badass commander/warrior, hell, even future ironbraker leader and let the marriage on the backburner if we find someone suitable or that accepts all this

she could be ugly as sin, if the marriage could bring advantage to some families there would be suitors

>>1257325
Important note, the likely events will be jousting, melee, and archery. Those are the classic big three, though there will be small other things. Those are the important ones, with serious prizes for victory.

>>1257326
Why the scare quotes? Don't like some extra cushion for the pushing? Scare of muscle girls? I imagine these hot dornish wives that everyone raves about tend to be pretty fit.

>>1257343
There will be suitors anon. Especially if we become more important and our influence spreads. Martial training is nice but her priority should be a court education,unless she wants to join Ned in losing heads

>>1257375

my concern is we spread her too thin, we have to choose a place to focus or she will become a jack of all trades and master of none.

I would prefer to see her as a badass warrior but socially incapable like us because that's seems to be what she prefers

>>1257394
>A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.
We're not spreading her out too thinly. Being the "stronk independent womyn who needs no man" is boring.

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>>1257326
>>1257336
>>1257356
I imagine her "bulking up" to be ending in a figure like picrelated

>>1257394
This anon has a point >>1257375
Just because she prefers to focus on chopping things it doesn't mean that is a reasonable decision. Especially if we are trying to make our house more noticeable, thus a bigger target.

Ok, are we locking in snagging more Wealth?

Currently we have:
30/33 Defense
10/14 Influence
26/29 Lands
42 Law
37 Population
36/36 Power
40/43 Wealth

We can add +1 to any stat, except Wealth which gets +4.

>>1257394
But that would be a pretty shit move for a father to pull. She's 13, she doesn't know what she prefers right now. To voluntarily allow our daughter to become a socially incapable warrior in the GoT universe is neglectful in the extreme.

>>1257434
Money money money

>>1257424
>>1257419

so we are not spending too much time with battle training but instead focus our education on court and social behavior? that's your plan?

I'm not saying stronk independent wymen, I'm just saying we arrived at a point where we should worry where she will end up stat wise, because we started training

>>1257434
I want lands

>>1257434

put it on wealth so we can pay for the tourney

>>1257434
wealth can buy anything so wealth is my choice

>>1257434
>WEALTH

>>1257424
Exactly.
I'm okay with her replacing needlepoint and flower arranging with daggerfighting, warfare and command. But her training in courtly intrigue and building the fortunes of a great house should be paramount.

>>1257443
Intrigue and diplomacy is more important than fighting skills in this world. Making her a warrior will not benefit the house as much as turning her into a master manipulator

Would it help you lot calm down if you knew what I was planning for your brat/s? Or should I go ahead and keep it a secret and let you tear eachother apart?

>>1257531
Secret famalamadingdongbannu

>>1257531
No spoilers plz.

>>1257531
Secret. Fuk.

>>1257434
Wealth

>>1257515
>>1257464
>>1257424

Ok,I understand and support now.

silverwood an give pointers to her about command, we can teach her daggerfighting or give her a rapier for fencing lessons considering her build, but the bulk of her training would come from our new wife on the intrigue and social aspect and from the maester on the economics and trade? is that cool with you?

>>1257531
no need good QM, I think our conversation was pleasant enough, I'm not one to hold to an idea when I see merit on the other side

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>>1257531
Mystery box

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>>1257531
nah, let it be a mystery

we should get some engineers

>>1257533
>>1257534
>>1257542
Hah, I figured. Just chill out, you lot. Things will be as things will be.

So, the increase in stats goes to Wealth. With the +5 from agreeing to marry Mariya Darry, you've got a whopping 56 Wealth. 16 points open and free to spend and play with.

Now, for the wedding! You can spend 1 Wealth for a wedding befitting a Minor House, 3 Wealth for a wedding befitting a Major House, or 6 Wealth for a wedding befitting a Great House. In accordance, Influence gain will be 1d3, 1d6, and 1d6+3.

As for the tournament, a Local tournament would cost 2 to throw, 2 for the first event, and 1 for each event after. A Regional tournament would cost 5 to throw, with 2 for each event. A Grand tournament would cost a whopping 10, with 5 for each event. In accordance, your Influence gains would be 1d6, 1d6+3, and 1d6+6.

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>>1257574
I say 3 Wealth for the Major House wedding, and a local tournament with a joust and melee for a total of 8 Wealth

>>1257574
Backing this anon

>>1257585

>>1257585
I agree with this lad.

>>1257585
This

>>1257585
Sounds good

>>1257574

minor house wedding and a local event with just the meele going for a total of 5

>>1257574
>>1257603 this


>>1257546
>silverwood an give pointers to her about command, we can teach her daggerfighting or give her a rapier for fencing lessons [and a bit of grappling/dirty fighting from our guard of bastards] considering her build, but the bulk of her training would come from our new wife on the intrigue and social aspect and from the maester on the economics and trade [and history and maybe natural sciences]
Yeah. Sounds perfect.

>>1257574
Quest is finished for tonight, of course. Continues tomorrow... probably around 1. OP is a good boy and goes to church every sunday, so OP will not be able to do the same schedule.

Please continue voting on the wedding. current leader is a Major House wedding, wit ha Local Tourney with Joust and Melee, for a total of 8 Wealth.

>>1257585
+1

You know if we have our wedding first and then the tourny very close after we may have a larger then expected turnout

>>1257640
Thanks for running!

>>1257717
Thanks for playing! It's been great, I've really been having fun.Hope everyone else is too.

>>1257783
Enjoying it so far. Thanks for running

>>1257585
This

>>1257574
Dontos Malroy would approve of a Darry marriage, being a friend of Ser Willem Darry he was. Good loyalist men and women there. Could use the strong influx of power that Vickon would bring given their current state.

Been a good read so far. Keep it up man.

>>1257656
If you mean the one Vickon paid for, it will happen at the same time as he marry. Westerosi wedding have a tourney most of the time as the two events synergise quite well.

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I calculated the probabilities of our House fortunes (4d6+ 1B)+6:

Decline: 4.64%
Curse: 22.70%
Growth: 42.46%
Blessing: 27.44%
Boon: 2.77%

So we have 27% chance of a setback, and 72% chance of profit.

>>1258212
I like those odds, let's see some dices

>>1258212
Is that accurate though considering that 4chan dice use the clock to generate psudo-random dice? Legit question because I'm not sure, all I'm aware of is that the clock has an effect and impacts clustered rolls

>>1257434
>40/43 Wealth
>+4 from house fortune
>>1257574
>With the +5 from agreeing to marry Mariya Darry, you've got a whopping 56 Wealth.

Am I missing something? 43+4+5 = 52, not 56.

Also, vote for minor house wedding (1 wealth) and a local tourney with archery and melee (2+2+1 wealth) for a total of 6 wealth. No jousting in swamps, please.

>>1258259
it will probably be held in the city or on a dredged part of the locality it's not all swamp

>>1258259
The numbers are weird but honestly, the only part that actually matters is the available wealth. We might "have" 52 or 56 but that it mostly spent. The only party of that we actually have is the 16 wealth.

>>1258395
But do we have 12 or 16 wealth?

>>1258248
It depends... The randomness in that case or dependant on anons rolling at random times relative to each other, this makes it at least unpredictable. Also on the server's entropy pool. So "evenly distributed" (aka fair), no not necessarily but it will still be random.

>>1258444
Honestly, I don't remember, too tired/drinking

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy

So this marriage/tourney deal, are we basically selling it as a 'practice' tourney for the big Riverrun one? We might end up getting a heck of a lot more attendants if that's the case, plenty of eager young bucks looking to test their mettle over small stakes.

>>1258723
I don't know, but we better win the meele and offer the honors to our new wife

>>1258259
...how did I- oh, woops, I added the dowry in twice. My bad! You're absolutely correct!

>>1258783
I don't think the man who holds the tourney participates in them. Anyone remember an instance in the books?

>>1258840
Robert Baratheon was organizer of tourney in Kings Landing and took part in melee.
Granted it was in name of the hand but it was still organized by the crown.

I think we could take part but if we win we should give our prize to second place.

>>1258848
Sounds good. Most important thing is that we get to choose our new wifey as queen of love and beauty

>>1258852
On this note, people were talking about who gets to crown the queen of love and beauty, and how normally it's the jousting champ, etc. I am going to rule it's the winner of the 'main event', as it were. Normally this is the joust, that's the usual 'main event' of tournies. At your tourney, you can simply have the melee, your event of choice, be the main event.

>>1258878
I keep forgetting to change my trip/name. Sorry folks.

>>1258878
We'll just win the joust fair and square my dude.

>>1258878
THIS

>>1258878
We'll win the joust then. We're not that old

>>1258925
I thought we have been established to not be a great rider, though.

Melee stacks the odds in our favor. Orrrrr, we could not participate and see who names our daughter as Queen of whatever in order to curry favor with us.

>>1258934
I rather like this idea personally.

>>1258878
Alright, guys. I've actually decided to not run properly today. I ran Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. I call Sunday to chill the hell out.

I will still be here, though, and encourage everyone to plot, plan, and discuss as you please.

>>1258944
I'm honestly, just not a fan of entering a tourney we throw.

>>1259023
We could always just not enter the melee the one we are good at.

When would our wedding be? I prefer doing it on our name day.

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>>1259085
I think we said the eighth month, the Tully tournament is during the tenth

>>1259085
That'd be up to you lot. Holding it too soon before the Riverrun tourney will turn some folks off, worrying them that they might get injured and not have time to heal beforehand.

Holding it the seventh, or early eighth would be best. Seventh would get the highest attendance.

>>1259093
Seventh, maximum attendance

>>1258934
This is a good point

>>1259123
I concur

>>1259093
Seventh for the Seven.

Gods will it.

>>1259023
I think it'd be ok to enter the melee, show off a little, but we really shouldn't enter the joust, from two reasons. One, we're not that great of a rider, and we might make a fool of ourselves. We really don't want to show off that we aren't great at it (even if we're not actively horrible).I know that practically it actually doesn't suit our marshes-and-naval-combat needs, but riding skill and mounted combat ability is *really* important both as a force multiplier in battles on drier terrain and reputationally to show that you are both a noble and a warrior. We really don't want to show off that were not a "proper" jousting knight.
Secondly, even if we declare the melee the "main" event and give it the larger prize (which I don't think we should), everybody will still think of the joust as the main event. It's where reputations will be made and what people will remember years after. Even if we declare the melee the "main" event people will have trouble thinking of it that way; that's just not how the "sport" works. And it would be quite odd for us to enter our own tourney (and win our own prize money?), really make us look socially clueless. I know we're not the most cunning, but this is basic lordly manners. Generosity. In the melee on the other hand we wouldn't be trying as the host to upstage the main event, but could still send a message of how tough we are. Plus watching the joust will give us a better sense of who the up-and-coming local knights and lordlings are. As Anon mentioned, it'd be interested to see who crowns our daughter, if anyone does. (I'd presume basic courtesy would be for the winner to crown their wife or a lady they are courting if they are in attendance, but to crown the host's daughter otherwise.)