>>1329637
hell yeah! Time for Mother!

>>1329637
Guess Union and Commonwealth forces on Mars are finally engaging each other.

>>1329637
GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING

Welcome back

Daily reminder.
>Raid OQ
>Read the locked memories of that thinker.
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Build that new FTL prediction building.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)

Also i think our agent might be compromised now that we hinted that we knew about the mirage assassination.

>>1329668
You know I thought of a way we could really screw with the humans on Gemini.
We clone human blood(Killinger's if we can get it) and write that litany in the blood in as many places as possible.
Should up the level of paranoia and panic by an order of magnitude.

>>1329675
>Also i think our agent might be compromised now that we hinted that we knew about the mirage assassination.
No he isn't you retard.

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>>1329686

I would rather assimilate the Union humans slowly. We have that nightclub at Bedrock we can even copy the terrorist on Path and make it as a way to attract people from Bedrock to be assimilated, we do the same from the humans in Geminni and from there we start to slowly infiltrate the other polanets and adopt EVERYONE!

>>1329675
>Also i think our agent might be compromised now that we hinted that we knew about the mirage assassination.


Michael had nothing to do with the Mirage. If i ain't wrong that was Seiner's work. Michael took care of the project were Lee was imprisioned.

>>1329697
We hinted that we knew about the attempted assassination, that means the information was leaked and he'll realize we have spies somewhere, our agent will be a suspect especially since he was kidnapped by Lyle.

>>1329706
>If i ain't wrong that was Seiner's work
Nope it was the Nowhere scientist's work.

>>1329706
Seiner told Michael about the mirage i think, or at least he implied alder's assassination by saying "she won't be a problem" or something like that if i recall correctly.

>>1329686
I don't think it falls into a clear narrative of who might be writing it, much less one that would play into an existing fear.

It's a xenophobic internal memo, essentially. Why would we write it in a human language on human worlds?

If it's supposed to be humans saying it to other humans, why would they include "stab the monkeys"?

Also "the void" isn't a big fear of theirs, so writing about it isn't likely to inspire much more than curiosity. And we don't want the humans to be curious about what "the void" means.

>>1329707
>our agent will be a suspect especially since he was kidnapped by Lyle.
He'll pretty low on the list and entire list will get dropped if we mention we have clairvoyance.

>>1329707
>kidnapped by Lyle.

His mission was to catch Lyle, but Lyle was obvously waiting for then. This might make him thing:

1- Michael is somewhat compromised
2- The hive has a way to spy on his communication

But Michael was captured by the Vzlen and we are trying to make it look like it was Deckers internet friends that are comming for the rescue.

>>1329717
>Seiner told Michael about the mirage i think, or at least he implied alder's assassination by saying "she won't be a problem" or something like that if i recall correctly.
This whole sentence is retarded.

>>1329722
I thought the monkeys was supposed to be the Taidarens?
Honestly it's just too good to not insert into the story at some point.

>>1329713
Well he's dead now and we do have some flies on that goverment building were Gilliam lived/lives. We can infect some of the residents and infiltrate even more deep within the Union.
But they might start to run some scans on key personnel.

>>1329738
>Well he's dead now
Are you really assuming that when the void is involved?

>>1329738
I had an idea. We can try to upgrade the spine pals so that they can shrivel in size an stop production of almost all chemicals. They will still make enough to stop any of them from blabbing about anything we dont want them to.

>>1329732
The Taidarens are cute and funny. Don't mix then with the human garbage that is the Union.

>>1329675
No, our dude wasn't involved directly other than an off the cuff remark, so he is safe and if they do suspect him then they need to get him back from the whales

>>1329637
>their kinetic slugs pass through a field of kinetic mines fired like a shotgun shell from the Commonwealth fleet,

Are kinetic mines just using explosive ammo autocannons to fill the space with shards, or is it some space mines tech we haven't invented yet that we should buy from the Deep Song market to study.

>>1329741
When a base blows up to the point of leaving just a crater on it's place? Yes.

>>1329745
We can mutate drones if i ain't mistaken maybe we can make our symbiots/spine pals be able to shrik? Does Psionic Cloaking affect machines? Can we use it on our symbiots? Or give it to then?

>>1329725
I was talking about the first time Lyle kidnapped Michael, back when we destroyed that psionic research base.
>>1329731
Thread 45.5

He looks to Michael briefly. "Oh don't mind the conference call, you're cleared for these things anyhow. Tell me, who's giving the biggest opposition to the new bill?" As he asks the question a sly smile creeps across his face. Michael knows the answer, but it's so obvious he hesitates for a moment.
"The Greens, sir. But sir Richards is a Green, isn't that-"
"And who is the current leader of the Greens, and the only person on the Security Council with the funding, public backing, and popular support to actually throw enough weight around to fight off Tory proposals?"
"I'm, not sure I understand, sir." Michael says. Killinger nods his head.
"That's fine. Just get your files on my desk by tomorrow." He turns from the unseen screen to another unseen projector, as if something had just appeared. "Ah, Commander Grey, you're right on time. What's the status of the Mirage?" He seems to listen for a response, but the echo cancellation removes it. "Good." He says finally. "That's more than thirty years of research and engineering you have there. Don't fuck this up."
"Inspiring." Anderson says over the call.
"It better be, after the recent setbacks we may only have one shot at this." DuPont says. Killinger ignores them for a moment, as if listening to some long stream of data, then he types something into his data pad and looks to his desk, where the council members are projected. They each nod in silence, and Killinger quickly turns back to the unseen figure.
"You have a green light for the operation. Maintain video feed, but otherwise maintain comm silence." He turns away, having dismissed whoever was there, and he turns back to Michael as the council members hang up one by one.

This definitely puts Michael as a suspect.

>>1329745
I figure anything that can pick up a tumor will pick up one of our parasites, no matter how small we make it.

If bioscans start happening we might need to switch to using clones and go full body-snatchers. They'd need to be implanted with the memories of the original, but would have their minds tweaked/constructed to be sleeper agents. They won't be telepathically connected to us but they could still be useful.

Wait, how are our human agents with Kent able to stay in touch with us? AFAIK they're not in direct contact, and we're only giving input into what they do because QD says we can.

>>1329769
Advanced relay gives planet wide coverage.

>>1329766
Again off the cuff and not a lot of details to pin our man, and given we already had intel before our attack on Lee lab it doesn't point to a specific spy

Plus they know about our deal with the unity so they will first focus on the idea that we got intel off the unity

>>1329717
>Seiner

>>1329766
Now i understand this plus the fact that the operation fucked up might make hima suspect. But the rogue we recruited was the one that tip the Valen's hands if anything we can put all the blame on him.

>>1329769
We have a relay in the system/above the planet.

>>1329766
Michael's a suspect, but >30 years of development means there could have been any number of leaks from any sources. We actually detected the ship before we knew what it was, and our assumption at first is that it was a ceph ship. We actually don't have a lot of information on it, just a name.

>>1329776
But what in the agents' biology lets them have a psionic link, if anything? Baseline humans are totally psi-blind.

>>1329800
>humans
>implying hybrids are human
Have you read this quest at all.

>>1329800
We can turn then into Hybrids. Once a human gets a symbiot we can mutate then into Hybrid's. Hybrids are psionic linked.

But to mutate one from human to hybrid required one day in a cacoo state.

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>>1329637
Yogesh examines the holoscreen in the center of the flag bridge with thought as the stars swirl around the room from the projection walls like a celestial orey. The system of Kalidesh beyond is large and lush with terraformed worlds, while its star is a faint red speck, barely noticeable from the outer system, the red dwarf being hardly larger than a gas giant and offering little light for the seven worlds around it.

"The first is the frozen rock of Kailash, its atmosphere cold and thin and its surface covered in ice and malformed with massive jagged peaks and tremendous valleys. The glow of civilization is soft and sparse, with most of the cities huddled around the mountains of the tidally locked day side where what little light there is offers some measure of warmth, but also a dangerous amount of x-rays from the local star, which emits mostly non-visible radiation. The night side is marked with the rare military base, research post, and observatory where distance from civilians and the endless night provide an enhancement to their function. In the band of endless twilight you can see even from the zoomed in orbital view, a vast band of wind farms covering the planet's surface like a waistband just beneath the endless stream of wispy clouds flying back and forth in the heat exchange. The thin air would not provide much power in itself, but with a constant, never ceasing wind it would at least be reliable.

The fleet lurches with the deployment of long range munitions as the Commonwealth forces close in on the scavenger fleet in orbit, and deploys landing craft and atmospheric corvettes for low orbit engagement to support the ground offensive. Fighters launch and begin zipping between the ships to maintain a perimeter around the armada as fleet formations over the other worlds begin to move to intercept.
cont.

>>1329786
*Killinger
I'm getting all these names confused.

>>1329802
Easy anon ther eis a lot i don't remember about the quest and besides. He might be new to it.

>>1329763
>When a base blows up to the point of leaving just a crater on it's place? Yes.
It actually it didn't. "Them" only ripped a hole through the roof.
>>1329766
>This definitely puts Michael as a suspect.
A very low one and it gets even lower when he finds out we blew up the ship.

>>1329800
Not so much psi-blind as psi-incompatible. If some being tries to make them psionic, then their brain will steadily fail until it results in a painful death.

>>1329809
>>1329802
In that case, can a bioscan pick up that they're hybrids? This might not be a solution to the problem of parasites getting detected, after all.

>>1329810
IS time to fuck up the Scavs boys!!!

>>1329826
>can a bioscan pick up that they're hybrids

I don't know. The humans studying the Thing seemed capable of figuring out the triple Helix that is a genetic characteristic of the hive. If the humans manage to study it it might improve their detection metod since they don't have yet a sample of hive genetic.

>>1329830
My favorite time of the day.
>>1329675
I forgot
>Upgrade speakers with medium relays.
Since we're getting all these Psionic powers i think it would be good for our speakers to show of our superiority occasionally.

>>1329840
>they don't have yet a sample of hive genetic
You fucking retard they were comparing the BQ drone genetics to that Thing's a couple of threads ago.

>>1329852
Geez so rude. What's wrong anon had a bad day?

>>1329852
Um i thought they only had the things genetic strand because it was the first corpse they took a sample of? When did they get OQs?

>>1329865
Worker, part of a thinker and random ship organs

>>1329867
From the battle over path

The already scanned the worker but the thing ate it so no other experiments i guess

>>1329810
>The night side is marked with the rare military base, research post, and observatory where distance from civilians and the endless night provide an enhancement to their function.
"Reminds me of nowhere. Ah, the memories."
>>1329867
>>1329874
That is what corpses they have, i don't recall them taking samples from them yet since the other scientist rushed for the cavebug.
What did the scanning do?

>>1329865
GO AND REREAD THOSE THREADS ANON. IT WILL SO PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT YOU WILL FEEL STUPID FOR ASKING IT.
>>1329861
I'm on an imageboard. When someone else says something I think is stupid I call them a retard.

>>1329810
"My men report your forces have made landfall." Yogesh says. "I thank you for the assistance. I doubt we would be able to fend off both attacks at once without sustaining devastating losses."

"Yes." Your speaker chirps as the ship rumbles with launching munitions and fighter craft.

"Magnus is leading the attack on the Union, I'm not sure what his fleet time is, or if he is available, but I would recommend you speak with him. We have access to the full Q-comm network, and there are many things I believe he needs to hear from you." He says, his eyes still locked on the colored dots of the central holo display as streams of missiles fly past each other and blips of enemies and allies flicker and wink out, or leap from one place to another as the sensors strain to maintain a vigil through the growing fog of atomic radiation and thick X-rays of the star.

>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
>Send Magnus a message about something else (write in)
>Other

>>1329883
They have technicians man, taking samples is automatic in a research lab

>>1329888
>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
Cant keep delaying this

>>1329885
You should probably see a doctor with all that unneeded stress you subject yourself to anon

>>1329888
>>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies

>>1329888

I forget who Magnus is, or what enemies we might speak to him about, but this sounds like plot, so...

>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies

>>1329883
>i don't recall them taking samples from them yet since the other scientist rushed for the cavebug
They were comparing the dna before the whole cell dividing thing happened.

>>1329888
>>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
Ask Yogesh about appropriate swear words for talking about the Obsidian Queen.

>>1329888
>I'm not sure what his fleet time is, or if he is available
"Union reinforcements have arrived in combat over Mars."

>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
It must be a secure line. Nobody eavesdrops. Do not record the conversation. Mere awareness of a thing can be dangerous.

>>1329888
>Other

Although the hive does need to inform Magnus about this now it's not the time. Magnus needs to focus on his attack against the Union and we need to handle the scavs. Besides talking about..."Them" will be safer if it's in person. Such knowledge can be damage.

>>1329885
Found it, it was when Gilliam was introduced which surprises me since i though they didn't begin until he got there.

>>1329909
>safer if it's in person
QComm is point-to-point, so if they have a direct line, it's probably the one thing that's difficult to spy on.

>>1329906
He wants us to talk about the whole Void Gods thing to Magnus.

Q-comss are hackable i don't trust broadcasting nothing from it. Specially if they are engaging the Union, who might eavesdrop on our communication.

>>1329908
Dont tell them that, only raises more question about how we are spying in sol system

>>1329916
To convince him that there's bigger fish than the Union to fry?

The Commonwealth is already taking a pretty hard beating from the Scavs. You'd think that would have already convinced him.

>>1329888
>>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
It is time for this. We have so much to discuss.

>>1329888
>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies

>>1329888
>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
I think we should assume direct control over the speaker just to get the point across of how important this stuff is. We can then go back to being backseat-speaker and if they ask why we were speaking differently before just play dumb...with maybe some subtle cheek.

>>1329909
This is an awkward time yeah. Telling him about the 70 thousand year feud in the middle of their hundred year feud...

>>1329909
Fair enough, I'll switch to that.

>>1329947
Actually it's a million year old war but otherwise yeah.

>>1329930
It has nothing to do with convincing, they just want an explanation why the hive got pissed enough at the Union to send a small scouting fleet to Gemini.

They'd be the opposite of helpful in fighting the nonhuman wars anyway. They're nothing but walking research subjects waiting to fall into Obisidian claws.

Direct human military aid is the last thing we want.

>>1329946
I think we should develop a second breed of speaker, thats a bit more intimidating and no nonsense, like an old grizzly admiral type fellow, and have them go speaking in pairs with the old speaker design, for a good cop bad cop sort of routine. It would also allow us to convey more serious matters that's currently a little... Awkward to deal with with with our current speaker.

>>1329888
>>Send Magnus a message about something else (write in)
We have the Carrier battle groups, best help him move his troops around.

Can someone tell me what the hell those ambush fleets in thread 62 are?

>>1329888
>>Speak with Magnus about the Hive's enemies
Can we just deploy a second ambassador drone to his fleet so we can talk to him and the Wise whenever we need to?

>>1329971
I personally prefer our current speaker. It can be obtuse at times for when it dosent want to talk or it wants to be evasive, however it can be direct when we want it to be. WHat I meant with my original post was instead of stearing what the speaker is saying, we directly control it. Our manner of speaking would be more human because we have a direct link to our thinkers, it would likely use a wider range of tone and wordplay.

>>1329976
Read the wiki

>>1329769
>I figure anything that can pick up a tumor will pick up one of our parasites, no matter how small we make it.
I doubt our parasites are as dense as a tumour. IIRC QD said they can easily be mistaken for a kidney or whatever they replace. So they would probably unly get spotted if the docs knew what they were looking for.

>>1329973
>having human troops get into shenanigans aboard our ships
YES PLEASE

>>1329976
Doesn't matter much, when was the last time we got to vote about creating new fleets?

>>1329971
Our speaker can already fulfill that role when it goes queen mode.
Actually i think it's better since they don't expect the speakers to do such a thing.

>>1329976
They're stealthed ships with a shitton of missiles. It's a good enough, if exceedingly expensive, concept.

Overwhelming alpha strike.

>>1329973
No, we said we would not interfere in intra human squabbles

And moving commomwealth troops in union space is a no go, hell may not be able to do that in cw space given the union spooks

>>1329996
>aboard
Opening a Rip Drive wormhole doesn't involve sticking the humans in our giant spleens.

Which is what establishing a transport hub at Mufrid for that kind of rapid transport would be useful for.

>>1329992
Did that already their design isn't there.

>>1330005
It's not the missile ambush fleets I'm talking about.

>>1330007
You do realize that we explicitly built the ships to move their STL ships right?

>>1329991
I actually greatly appreciate our current speaker. My point was I think it would be nice to have a secondary speaker accompanying it, with a contrasting personality, to allow for more depth in our interactions. I mainly want one for a roleplay perspective, so to speak, and would fill the role you're describing.

>>1330020
Did we officially commit to building anything.

We definitely didn't commit to actually going through with this hypothetical plan, which might earn us loadsa Canderon as our price.

>>1330007
Yeah we don't want to look like hypocrites.

>>1330020
And we just said we wouldn't aid the CW invading union space

Again it sucks we built them cant use them now, but hey it happens unless you want it to be plastered all over union media that we are aiding the CW

>>1330030
We don't even hypothetical ships listed.

>>1329888
Yogesh taps several keys on his terminal and you see a number of projected orbital paths form for the fleet and a timer estimating time to the ship's engagement, then he flips several switches and a new screen appears in front of him.

"Direct link to the Columbia is open. You can speak with him regarding anything you wish from your guest quarters if you wish to convey anything you would prefer to not leave the room." Yogesh says, "but we would all appreciate some level of understanding regarding your motives of interaction with humanity."

Your guest room is rather extravagant. A far cry from the transport harness and nutrient tube your drones are typically stored in for starship travel. Amenities which your drones have no biological need for fill a tremendous amount of space in a decadent and inefficient manner. There is a bed, cocoon-like with its low-g straps, with an entire bathroom adjacent, with a small door sealed tightly and rendered opaque. A desk is connected to the wall on the other side, with a set of holoprojectors embedded within and a computer terminal set along the wall that flashes with the controls for a connected Q-comm link.

>Request to speak with Magnus
>Leave him a message for later
>Other

>>1330020
We didn't build anything anon, and that plan still has a lot of holes we need to address before we think about putting it into action. The Commonwealth is a rather xenophobic and isolationist state as far as they go, and we still need to grease them up before they would allow our ships free movement within their borders.

>>1330038
They can't complain if we use them just for the scav frontline.

>>1330044
This is far too sensitive to leave a message.

>>1330038
Well to be honest, its going to be spun that we are helping the CW invade regardless by some parties in the union

>>1330044
>Request to speak with Magnus

>>1330044
>>Request to speak with Magnus

>>1330044
>Request to speak with Magnus

>>1330044
>Request to speak with Magnus

>>1330044
>Request to speak with Magnus
I mean, unless he's getting shot at.

Magnus actually didn't want to go to war with the Union, so maybe he'll have some ideas of how this war can be ended sooner rather than later.

>>1330021
The general impression im getting from your suggestion is,if you will pardon the use of analogy, a being with two face,one a tragedy mask and the other a comedy mask. Each one speaks using a different facet of the whole. While I do belive it is a very interesting idea, it may give some wrong, and not too advantages, impressions about the hive or worse get some of us too bogged down in the speakers playing their roles that it takes far longer for us to come to a consensus.

>>1330044
>>Request to speak with Magnus
>Other
Request permission from him to deploy a second ambassador drone to his fleet, so we can talk to him directly when we need to. We're a hivemind, there's no need for us to have to choose which fleet we attach our diplomats to.

>>1330050
Yeah they will, since they can scream we are freeing up CW resources allowing them to send more at the union

That is true and they can use that against in union mass media given the declassified that image of us at odin station

>>1330044
>Other
Request a to arrange an urgent meeting with him, alone because only he needs to or should know.

>>1330049
>>1330030
We absolutely did build them. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1284708/#p1284725

>>1330044
>There is a bed, cocoon-like with its low-g straps
Dam Commonweatlh sure is trying to imporess us.


>Request to speak with Magnus

>Other
Go to your Quest room.

The less people know about the void is better. But we can all just say that we are enemies of the servant races and that they work for 'something'.

SHIT. It's been so long since you've ran I keep forgetting you're back dammit.

>>1330044
>Request to speak with Magnus

>>1330065
I'd be a bit concerned about the Union seeing this. If they see one of our ships approaching a Commonwealth fleet actively attacking the Union that could be bad...

>>1330071
There it fucking is, what are those ambush fleets? They're not missile ambush or else they wouldn't be listed separately.

>>1330065
No anon a speaker in a fleet invading the Union can be easily used by the Union fuckers as the Hive advising or meddling in the war.

I don't give a fuck for what Union think but we should avoid give then ammunition to refuse our claims to the expanse.

>>1330071
WTF? How many people actually voted for that? Most of them were against it.

>>1330071
>>1330094
And for that matter, how did we squeeze out 6 entire fleets in less than one thread? Is QD switching up how crunch is calculated here?

>>1330106
They've been requested since the first hiatus.

>>1330094
>>1330106
It's been confirmed to be on the construction list half a dozen times. OP just kept dropping it from the que a bunch of times.

>>1330106
>>1330129
Specifically I believe he first confirmed that they were being build on a tweet on August 8th, 2016. You are way, way too late to protest building them.

>>1330121
Never mind that was a vote for adding battlecariers to the light fleets.

>>1330044
You establish the connection and wait. While the connection itself is technically as instantaneous as your own hive network, the various extreme speeds and resulting time dilation effects hamper the overall experience of non-thought communication. Several minutes pass before a response arrives, and the Marshal of the Commonwealth Fleet appears on the screen.

"I was informed of the basics by Admiral Yogesh." He says. "I am currently engaging Martian ground forces, but things are calming down while the local PDF is hunkering down and waiting for the Union fleet to engage so we have the time to talk. I understand you have some information regarding the reasoning behind your aggression against the Union?" He asks. Your speaker chirps.

>Write in

>>1330158
Nowhere and whats on the Mirage

And give him details on what to expect from the speech that the union going to release

Aka our meeting at odin and dealing with unity and kicking them out of the expanse

>>1330158
"How familiar are you with the weapon that malfunctioned and destroyed Earth's moon? The one that the elder Doctor Seiner had a large hand in building."

>>1330158
"Long story short, there is an enemy that can only know of you if you know of it, see you if you see it. It has nearly wiped out the Hives, twice, And did succeed in destroying all biological members of the Skyle."
Also give him some wonderful video of a certain conference between union high command.

>>1330158

Yes. The Union in their greed and pride saw to mess with something dangerous. Something that corrupts and slave all the things that lived. The hive is enemie of such entity and it's minions. At first we hope to avoid contact so the humans wouldn't be caught on the middle of it...but the humans from the Union made humanity and the hive to be seen by then...

>>1330168
Oh and we also told the union about the scavs,

yeah we have to tell the Magnus what went down in that meeting since it ended up involving him

We also need to tell the unity what happened in that meeting since it also effects him

>>1330182
And Heretic he might help us with some of the Skyl stuff and also might want to reclaim some resources.

>>1330152
Anon I'm looking at his twitter feed and there is nothing about carrier battle groups or nexus ships. Traditionally when we opted to build a fleet or ships he would post the design and get a confirmation vote before going ahead, then spend three days to build it, but I really can't recall that happening here. I don't have anything against the fleet but I'd like to know if we're changing up how we build ships, and your shitposting doesn't offer any answers to that.

>>1330158
"While I'd rather not explain in detail, for the information is dangerous by itself, i owe you an explanation for the sudden move. my actions were provoked after the unions latest experiment in forbidden science, the resulting catastrophe forced our intervention."
"I expect you have sufficient spies in the union so if you do find out whats much ado about nowhere please quarantine the people who have found and handed you the information for safety."

>>1330158
Just make damn sure that we emphasize how serious containing this information is.

>>1330188
https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest/status/762507471931871232

>>1330168
We aren't telling anybody about Nowhere. We can say that SOMETHING happened but not where. We don't want information looked into or spreading.

>>1330172
Should we really reveal our connection to that superweapon either?

>>1330158
They tampered with artifacts beyond their comprehension, which do not register as any ordinary matter, or of any substance at all, with no mass and no reflection.

>>1330197
Ah, i found out what those ambush fleets are, apparently i forgo the "missile" part to shorten the name and QD mistook that as me requesting a completely different kind of ambush fleet.
My fault entirely.

>>1330212
>Should we really reveal our connection to that superweapon either?

Why not? We need that thing. The ammunition is too precious to use for anything except the real enemy, the ones that the Union decided to summon, which required our intervention so that life can continue in this sector.

>>1330158
Mostly this >>1330191
But maybe instead of "forbidden science" just say alien tech and that their blunderings put all life in the local sector at risk.

>>1330172
Yumies lust for this weapon. Let's not get their curiosity up.

>>1330223
Actually i recall we told them the crystals were forbidden science before which is why i added that in.

>>1330221
None of that requires revealing our connection to it especially knowing the name of Grandpa Seiner in charge.

The mysterious and possibly paranoid Commandant Zadornov who we officially do not know about yet, and only overheard conversations with in secret, might be a wee bit cagey about handing over data on the Ultimate Weapon to aliens they met last week, because it's "for a good cause/your own good."

>>1330226
Yes, and we should tell them exactly why it's such a bad idea to mess with it.

Do it wrong and you:
1) destroy a planet (or a moon)
2) summon an elder creature from beyond
3) become their new slave race

or any combination of the above.

The Union did (2), the Commonwealth did (1), and we're all here trying to prevent (3).

>>1330217
Its fine. I was just a bit testy because its not exactly the first time that someone's tried to cancel these after the fact. And after the second or third time you just want to tell them to shut the hell up rather than go through the whole thing again.

>>1330245
Well in retrospect, the Black Queen is guilty of (3) so I guess we're just trying to unfuck everything.

>>1330252
She's little more than Satan in the Void religion.

>>1330245
Or
4) We drop a bioweapon on you. Because don't touch the thing!

>>1330252
Should we tell Magnus about auntie?

>>1330245
They've already abandoned it. All we have to say is that the void shards are insanely dangerous to tamper with, even to attempt to destroy them is pure insanity. They must be kept 200 meters from any form of carbon based life at all times, too.

If, if they ever dig up the 100 year old blueprints that might have been forgotten by all but Zadornov by now, they will easily recognize the ammunition as the shit you must not use in any way, even to destroy it.

>>1330266
I vote we give him a map. Seriously, just give him a map.

>>1330266
I think we already mentioned her a little so it would be good to elaborate especially now that she's attacking the union.

>>1330266
Probably that just that there is another hive that is utterly genocidal and that we are the only faction between them and the divided humans.

>>1330275
I'd prefer being able to keep the scope of our own territory mysterious and out there with no known borders.

It'll make it harder to estimate how vast or not our resources are.

>>1330275
And put a warning on it. EXTREME DANGEROUS DON"T GO THERE!

>>1330275
Not a bad idea.

>>1330266
Also a good idea.

>>1330272
That's why I suggested asking Magnus if he's at all familiar with the weapon, and if he isn't, who would be, because we need to sit down and talk to someone who knows some shit to explain to them how they've messed up.

>>1330263
You sure that wasn't the Ceph being indoctrinated against Hive life back when the war was on, before the OQ's betrayal?

Come to think of it, were the Ceph part of that war back then or not?

>>1330289
It would avoid any commonwealth trying to scan and allowing auntie to take and reverse engineer their tech.

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>>1330290
I remember when I said I wanted to do something like that to Theseus, to warn him to stay out of Hive Space.

People said not to, no way. No consequences could follow from that.

>>1330245
I really support telling them something to that effect.

>>1330158
"The Union's blundering with ancient artifacts caused a rift that unleashed an ancient enemy of the hive.

Thus far the hive has observed three paths leading forth from toying with these artifacts.

1) A planet is destroyed
2) IT which we will not let be is summoned
3) IT enslaves the race

The Union's foolishness took path #2, and this Hive was inadvertently noticed by IT as a result. We deemed it necessary to intervene as deterrent against further pursuit of that path, as the third option is the inevitable conclusion.

The Hive cannot provide more details, as they would only serve to endanger yourselves, and ourselves also."

>>1330296
I'm pretty sure it's just Ceph indoctrination that the Hive is evil, I don't really understand where >>1330263 is coming from. It never seemed like it was the Black Queen being portrayed as the enemy, just Hive life, before Black Queen was corrupted.

>>1330279
But that's a lie. Theseus is helping, and we should tell him so. He seems like a practical enough man to at least check it out if we tell him that there's another non insane faction that has every reason to hate the humans he's currently at war with.

>>1330291
That doesn't help anything. If the humans have forgotten about it and it's collecting dust in an ancient database you don't REMIND them of it.

It's just going to give them ideas.

Telling them to not attempt to destroy void shards, don't use void shards, don't go near void shards, don't do anything but contain void shards is enough to drive them off ever using the Psionic Cannon. If they know about the cannon, they'll put 2+2=4. If they don't, there was no need for the warning at all.

>>1330275
If we gave them a map it would likely fall into Union hands and from the systems we didn't say were ours they could guess where Theseus is hanging out. Then send him hand grenades in the mail or something.

>>1330301
This is another reason to give that map to him.

>>1330289
Imagine if us with so little planets manage to do a fleetas big as ours what would they think is the size of aunties fleet?

>>1330158
We should gently ask Magus about the weapon or imply our knowledge of it. Springing that we originally designed the weapon that ruined the earth is something we need to be careful about. On the other hand, understanding our roll in this is critical to fully explaining the danger of the void and what we'd like in our further relationship with the humans.

>>1330245
Supporting some variation of this.

>>1330266
Also supporting.

>>1330314
>Telling them to not attempt to destroy void shards, don't use void shards, don't go near void shards, don't do anything but contain void shards is enough to drive them off ever using the Psionic Cannon.
Well that's true, but I really want to get schematics for the cannon without needing to research it. We need to find a way to get that. But maybe that is a discussion for another time.

>>1330329
We do have the carriers. Could trade the help for the schematics.

>>1330315
We can give it after, just make the offer and deliver on Magnus hands personaly. So he and the Commonwealth can have a idea were he shouldn't send their ships.

>>1330158
"The Hive has suffered greatly by the Union's tampering with ancient devices beyond their understanding." You say.

"The artifact of that shipwreck we recovered, that would be an example I assume? You've mentioned this already, but without much in the way of details." Magnus replies.

"Yes." You say. "Knowledge is dangerous. Ignorance is the best defence."

"Well you clearly know plenty more than you've let on so far about these artifacts, their function, and their origin, but I have yet to see any reason to believe that won't sweep us up in the danger with you." He says as he lights a cigar with a small electric lighter with a quick motion. "I can respect everyone has their secrets, and your business is your business, but it's already affecting humanity both in the Union and here, and I'm not going to accept the claim that ignoring it is the best way to fight something that may already be causing mass chaos."

>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the events of Nowhere
>Other

>>1330329
They won't just GIVE us a superweapon we just explained is insanely dangerous to use.

It will cast doubt on our motives and the warning will appear insincere, a canny, manipulative grab for power and monopoly over the ultimate weapon.

>>1330334
>>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>>Explain the events of Nowhere

Yes to all this. Explain it in this order too.

>>1330334
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
Explain how humanity was engineered to have their brains melt if exposed to psionics, thus earning them the nickname of "Blind" and also immunity against being enslaved like the Ceph or Skyl or the Hive.
>Explain the events of Nowhere

In that order.

>>1330334
>Explain the events of Nowhere
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods

In this order

>>1330334
>Other
"Be warned, you asked for this knowledge."

>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the events of Nowhere

>>1330341
Please no.

>>1330334
>>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods

We just need to explain what happened to the Black Queen. That's all they need to know to demonstrate how ignorance is safety.

>>1330334
>>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
then
>>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
and finish with
>>Explain the events of Nowhere

>>1330344
You know what?

He wants to know, we'll fucking tell him.

Supporting this.

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>>1330350
>"Be warned, you asked for this knowledge."
Yeah, probably a good lead-in.

>>1330334
>and I'm not going to accept the claim that ignoring it is the best way to fight something that may already be causing mass chaos.
"It is"
"I will warn you now Magnus, if i were to tell you my secrets it would crush your worldview and everything you thought about your place in the universe. Are you sure your ready?"
If he still says yes
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the events of Nowhere

>>1330334
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods

>>1330334
>>Other
First you have to promise not to speak of what we speak here to any other humans. Not even to your other Admirals.

>>1330334
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
Ask if he is familiar with the events that caused the explosion of Luna.
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
Say that the crystals have a negative affect on organisms when used in masse or experimented on. Further information could be given under a more secure channel.
>Explain the events of Nowhere
Say that an experiment done on a Union research facility resulted in the destruction of a server ship in less than 10 seconds and it would have only gotten worse if we hadnt intervened.

>>1330344
>Explain how humanity was engineered to have their brains melt if exposed to psionics, thus earning them the nickname of "Blind" and also immunity against being enslaved like the Ceph or Skyl or the Hive.

No. This is something we spring on him another time. We are doing enough of a knowledge dump as is. We don't need an existential crisis on top of that. Just explain it away as "innate and so far unexplained innate human psychic resistance." But also ABSOLUTELY explain that it is possible for such resistance to be overcome (possibly by sharing pictures of crystal brains from Nowhere). We don't want Magus to think he's okay researching this due to some human immunity.

>>1330368
This too, everything we say beginning now is to remain between us.

>>1330376
And this.

>>1330352
Second

>>1330334
I think we shouldn't tell him every detail, just the abridged version. The entire version should be told under a more secure channel or in person.

>>1330376
i can get behind in saying the humans have resistance to the void gods

>>1330334
>Explain the events of Nowhere
And make sure no-one else is listenning to this transmission.

>>1330404
We absolutely have to hedge down our knowledge of Nowhere to only things we can handwave away as learned via 'mysterious bullshit' like 'we heard the screaming'.

We hardly want to hint about how we have a mole in the Union in the form of Gilliam, or cloaked pods watching them.

>>1330414
That's going to be difficult. It's possible the Commandant bugged Magnus's flagship or something.

We'd have no way of knowing.

>>1330376
>Blind
Telling them they are resistant will just make them less scared of the void!

>>1330404
>>1330415
Definitely this.

>>1330415
Our pod noticed the psionic signal before Gilliam was briefed.

>>1330404
This is their military QComm network from one admiral's ship to another. Channels don't get more secure than this, in fact an in-person meeting could probably be eavesdropped on easier.

>>1330415
IIRC we told, or implied, to the union that we noticed their experiment because ... we are familiar with the tech and we sensed it. Not because we were watching all along.

>>1330352
If we explain the nature of the Psionic Cannon at the Battle of Sol, we're admitting to having given humanity an insanely dangerous weapon that would draw aggro from an unfathomable 4-dimensional being just by using it.

We'd have to explain how Mom utterly did not care about human welfare, and used them as pawns. Or they'd infer as much themselves. And we're stuck protesting that no we're totally not using them like that, really.

>>1330344
supporting

>>1330451
>we

That was our mom anon not us.

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>>1330440
Yes...that's what I said.

>>1330456
Yes, we, the plural. The hive race.

It's hardly a leap for them to conclude the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. And they'd just have our word it was totally someone else.

>>1330451
>If we explain the nature of the Psionic Cannon at the Battle of Sol, we're admitting to having given humanity an insanely dangerous weapon that would draw aggro from an unfathomable 4-dimensional being just by using it.
Hey, they're fine now, right? Even managed to get a few shots off. The Void didn't even show up.

>>1330451
True, we should just tell him about
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the events of Nowhere
But i don't think that's going to win.

>>1330464
Except the ceph started to show up and look around

And now we came out of the woodwork

>>1330451
When they say that that's when we retort

"Well we tried not to fucking tell you anything about them, because we don't believe in using you like pawns like Mom did.

But you just didn't fucking want that so here's what you got."

>>1330464
The void is just watching if they hear us talking about the Canon i think we will start seeing much more activity from auntie and the ceph.

>>1330451
I could be okay with explaining how "the ancient" hives did not care for human welfare. But we are not an ancient hive and we care about them. Or something like that.

>>1330470
The only reason the Red Hive exists is because White Queen was defeated. For all she did, she couldn't stop them.

Not Black Queen, not the Ceph, and not the Void.

>>1330481
I feel that summarizes the retort nicely.

>>1330481
That doesn't make any sense. It would imply telling them this makes them pawns, when it doesn't even serve a useful function like using them as guinea pigs building the Cannon did.

>>1330481
I can support this. Knowledge is dangerous and he asked for it. He gets what he asked for.

>>1330491
The gardener would probably have cared for them unlike our mother.
A little too much even

>>1330515
Gardener was the best. I bet Gardner and Builder would be the Red queen's favorite aunts.

>>1330451
Oh, also.

Our shock that humans have finite lifespans. It's gonna be harder to explain away when it turns out we have historical interactions with humans from 100 years ago.

If we knew about the lunar death ray details, how'd we not know about human details in general?

>>1330536
>If we knew about the lunar death ray details, how'd we not know about human details in general?

"We were pretending in order to appear on a more even footing."

>>1330536

Because Mom was a paranoid bitch and we're still finding tidbits of information she hid away.

>>1330376
>so far unexplained
I'd drop this part. It adds no useful information and makes the statement a lie.

>>1330536
They know we were faking that

It why he stormed in to ask us about fighting the scavs in the first place when the rest of his science guys were screaming about unknown unkowns

Since he got sick and tired of all the bullshit in the place

>>1330497

No, it implies that we wanted to keep them separate from any fooling with the crystal gods. We didn't want to drag them into it like our mother did, and as evidence we didn't even want to tell them these things existed except in so far as we had to in order for them to stay away.

But they asked for it, so we'll go ahead and tell him specifically. And we'll tell him enough that we hope he independently draws the same conclusion we did, that these things need to be as little known as possible so as to reduce their danger.

>>1330536
"We thought it was funny"

>>1330557
>But they asked for it,

Actually it was Union's fault. If they hadn't decided to mess with that shit the humans wouldn't need to know about this things.

>>1330553
>They know we were faking that
Not yet they don't.

>>1330553
>It why he stormed in to ask us about fighting the scavs in the first plac
No it isn't. We feared it was why but that wasn't remotely related. He just had an urgent need of Scav-fighting and no time to dance around it, because Prince Reuenthal went SPACE WAR NOW so they had 2 fronts.

>>1330334
>Explain the nature of the psionic cannon from the Battle of Sol
>Explain the history of the Hive's conflict with the crystal gods
>Explain the events of Nowhere

Just the basic facts. No need to go into details or expose previous Hive involvement in Human affairs.

>>1330566
They not idiots man

He stormed in cause he got sick and tired of the back and through bullshit that was spewed and wanted a serious matter dealt with

And our acting was not really that good to begin with to be honest

>>1330565
Pretty much yea, we had a entire different plan before the nowhere catastrophe started.
It's all killingers fault.

>>1330565
Well Magnus just did specifically ask about it. That's what I was referring to.

>>1330566
He's clearly the sort who acknowledges posturing, but does away with it when the need arises. Pretty anyone with the balls and half a brain would call bullshit on a race with a mastery of genetics thinking it incredible that non-engineered lifeforms have finite lifespans.

>>1330581
Pretty sure the experiment was done on the orders of a member of the Security Council.

>>1330583
>thinking it incredible that non-engineered lifeforms have finite lifespans

We assumed they were smart enough to be self-engineered, since they had spaceflight. That was how the conversation went.

>>1330589
Aka killingers cronies, also i recall someone saying he started the whole psionic research or something.

>>1330334
>Tell him that we'd have to tell him the details in private because we don't want anyone eavesdropping on this call.

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>>1330592
Yeah the conversation basically went like
>going into space before you master your own biology
smug drone.3pr

>>1330604
RIP anon's vote it died of loneliness

>>1330592
>>1330605
And it was clearly bullshit to all parties involved.

>>1330598
We was the man behind Seiner and also has Windsor(The intelligence secretery), for who Michael works. Michael was the one burecrat in charge of the psionic lab and Giliam was the scientest.

>>1330598
Based upon their interactions they Council does not seem like Killenger's cronies at all. They seem more like colleagues:they take care of the matters of the Council, while Killenger, as senator, has more room to scheme using non-government funds and business because he is under less scrutiny. If the Council turned against him then he would be fucked, but it would probably have to be at the very least 4 of them against him.

>>1330622
>And it was clearly bullshit
Wiseman, the xeno studying scientist, found it extremely plausible for aliens to assume that others' tech trees would go like ours did.

>>1330621
qcomms are unbreakable as far as we know, they operate on entangled particles so they dont leave a information trail that can be decoded.

>>1330647
That cause he was a rookie diplomat and had no idea how much bullshit there is in diplomacy

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>>1330334
"Be warned, you ask for knowledge that carries danger with its understanding." Your drone begins. "What we say cannot be said to any other. We fear it would bring great danger to all life in this region, and sow great chaos across your space."

"I'll determine that once I've heard it, but on the whole I understand. Information control isn't something new to humanity." Magnus says.

"Then know this. The Hive fights an enemy older than humanity, in a war that has lasted longer than your kind has existed. They see those who see them, and their agents are everywhere. The Hive has fought with their slave races for as long as we know, and their devastation marks the Expanse."

"We're ants stuck between two fighting elephants, you mean." Magnus says. "We know you're more advanced than us, older than us both personally and as a species. So far humanity has met only species of a similar technological level, slightly more advanced with the Valen, and a few centuries behind with the Taidaren. I always felt it was a matter of time before we found someone further along their development than anything we've seen before." He inhales his cigar and sighs for a moment, clouding the screen with smoke. "But advanced bio-engineering aside, either you've spent countless years as a spacefaring species at war making no technological advancements, or the war has sent you backwards technologically." He thinks for a moment as the smoke clears around his face. "Unless there's a point where technological advancement goes from exponential advancement to a near complete plateau at some point." Your speaker chitters.

>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death
>Move on without responding
>Other

We should end our story by saying.

"As you can see, the Union really dropped the ball in this situation."

>>1330658
Told ya anons
Everyone got us clues to what we are they just dont have all the knowledge

>Move on without responding

>>1330658

>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
And since Mum was one of the supervisors of that exodus, segue into
>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

After all, it doesn't look like we're holding anything back for this conversation.

>>1330658
"In the past 100,000 years there have been perhaps 100 Queens total. How many genuinely new ideas do you think 100 people have?"

>>1330658
>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives

>>1330658
"As we shall shortly explain, you are correct, this everlasting war has stolen from us our hope and a great deal of our potential."


>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

>>1330655
>qcomms
That's why, obviously, the Commonwealth Secret Police or another Admiral or someone would have to bug the computer system on the other side, since you can't tap the line.

So it's not impossible.

>>1330658
>Move on without responding

>>1330658
>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

Both. The simple fact is that we *have* been making significant technological advances since our awakening, and letting him know that strengthens our position rather than weakens it. Maybe the ancient hives were stagnant, but we are not. That might be part of why the White Queen left us with so little information. It might have held us back as much as helped us.

>>1330658
>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
"For the record, we try not to show off the best stuff too much. And planetcrackers are expensive."

>>1330658
>Move on without responding

>>1330676

No. Do not say this. We're still being ambiguous about just how our intelligence is distributed through our hivemind.

>>1330658
>"We're ants stuck between two fighting elephants, you mean."
I don't think he quite gets it. Do you think Lovecraft is still a thing enough that we can use it as an analogy?

>>1330658
>>Move on without responding

OR

>>Other

We told you that ignorance is protection. We have been blessed with ignorance, for our ancestors died of their knowledge.

>>1330658
>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
"Much knowledge was lost during the exodus."

Also explain that biological immortality does tend to lead to stagnation, yes. He's not wrong.

>>1330676
To be fair queens do a marginal part of the thinking involved in a hives advancement, she really doesnt even do all the work involved with making new ideas since tons of our techs are based on ideas the thinkers came up with.

>>1330658
Respond with something along the lines of "we have suffered loses and...setbacks in the conflict. At times we barely survived near-extinction."

>>1330658
Unless there's a point where technological advancement goes from exponential advancement to a near complete plateau at some point."

That probably it to be honest, at some point marginal returns start kicking as there only so many ways to make stuff go boom

>>1330705
I'd agree, but we're proof that that wasn't a point that the ancient hives had reached. We already have tech and abilities that they did not.

>>1330658
>Information control isn't something new to humanity." Magnus says.

You are individuals. Your whims are selfish and your risk/reward estimations differ wildly.

You must not even trust your closest peers and underlings with this knowledge, no matter how high their rank.

>>1330658
>>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

>>1330575
>He stormed in cause he got sick and tired of the back and through bullshit that was spewed

He stormed in because he had a deadline and a war starting. It was very, very explicit.

Wiseman's memories show that bullshitting back and forth on our interstellar date was his idea in the FIRST place. He wasn't that opposed to it.

Circumstances changed.

>>1330658
>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

>>1330658
>>Other
"Now that you have heard it, what is your determination? Will you heed our warning in containing this information? Or who will you share it with? It is only fair if we tell you this, and you refuse to heed our warning, you tell us the identities of all humans who will share this dangerous knowledge."

>>1330676
That is way too specific. And revealing of a weakness.

>>1330658
>older than us both personally and as a species
This is actually incorrect.

The Red Hive has only been around for maybe half of a human year.

I kind of want to correct him, but ehhh...

>>1330658
>Other
"War as you understand it usually leaves one contender alive. War as we understand it scours resources and knowledge from systems, makes tampering with systems an invitation to extinction, and leaves all parties dead, held down for millennia, or hiding to survive until the next conflict."

We could also say "Some technology removes progress, and only." Since the classical example of that would be world destroying thermonuclears...

to sum it's saying "yea, but no." Skyl would be the actual example of being "held down" since Heretic was in hiding. Don't tell him that, tho.

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>>1330765
Yes, but let's not reveal that until the very last thread of the quest, and our enemies/friends find out they've been dealing with a space toddler.

>>1330765
Actually this speaker could admit that it was hatched not long before the meeting with Wiseman.

>>1330658
>"We already gave you what you needed to know about our enemies, if you want to know anymore we'll have to discuss this in private and in person."
This conversation is going into a more personal level now, so we should treat it as such.

>>1330784
SECONDING

>>1330784
That'd be neat.

>>1330789
No, that irrelevant right now

>>1330658
>>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>>1330765
Telling him that our hive personally has only existed for around that long would be really fucking intimating and give across how little we're fucking around. We had to start from scratch with our technology and are already at this level.

>>1330805
That's a good point. Our strength isn't in doubt, and letting him know just how quickly we built it up only makes it more impressive.

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We're sending agents to break Decker out and find out what the ETA is for the Tannhauser Gate coming online, in a quest to get its blueprints.

But what if.

>>1330826
And then we tell there is another hive. One that is hostile and has being active for around 70 thousand years. I would shit my pants if i was Magnus.

>>1330805
Seconding.

>>1330805
>>1330826
But would it intimidate them too much that they think it's better to get rid of us before we become unspeakably powerful? Well, I suppose if they decide to spite us like the Union.

>>1330805
We can save it for a rainy day when we really want to intimdate someone. We can only get the full effect of raw, human shock once.

>>1330765
>>1330805
Lets tell him our age. It will really drive our point home.

>>1330843
This a private convo where he swore to tell no-one what we talked about. We will be able to experience this at least twice

>>1330854
He hasn't actually sworn anything. He said he'd determine whether he'd listen afterwards.

>>1330765
Good idea. We can offer this correction to him. We're a space toddler effectively and we already have a fleet many times larger than his.

>>1330838
Logistcaly speaking since this we went and talked to then it tells then we can be negotiaded with.

The other isn't likely to do the same.

Ya guys are dedicated to acting cheeky in every conversation aren't ya?

Even if its totally ruins the mood

>>1330658
>>Explain the exodus of the Ancient Hives
>>Explain the White Queen's meddling and her eventual death

Also put in a quip that he's technically wrong about the age. As a species we have been around for much, much, longer than he has. But on a personal level our hive is in its infancy.

>>1330873
He said "individually."

It's more hilarious to assume he's using that to refer to this individual speaker's age.

>>1330873

Yes, tell him our hive is less than a year old. The 'say what?' moment will be worth the calculation as it sinks in that it's only taken a year for the hive to attain this level of warfighting capability.

Is QD's captcha still buggered?

>>1330866
Well, relatively speaking compared to the Union. These are humans we're talking about and they can be fickle people. You're right that of the two the Commonwealth can be expected to at least not hold the Idiot Ball in a fit of panic if we decide to clue them in. So I suppose we can trust that they’d really start ramping up their defensive efforts against the Void forces if they learn of the true gravity of the situation they’re dealing with.

>>1330658
Its more accurate to say your an ant stuck between a mouse and a tiger the hive lost the war and only a small renmant remains free.