>>1426411
Lets get started!

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>>1426411
>CHARACTER STATS
SPECIAL:
Strength 10
Perception 10
Endurance 10
Charisma 10
Intelligence 10
Agility 10
Luck 10

SKILL:
Barter 100
Energy Weapons 100
Explosives 100
Guns 100
Lockpick 100
Medecine 100
Melee Weapons 100
Repair 100
Science 100
Sneak 100
Speech 100
Survival 100
Unarmed 100

PERKS:
[undecided - will show up in game]

>con't

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>>1426560
Today is the day, the very first day where you decide to bring the Wasteland out of its dust and rust into a new golden era not seen since before the Great War. You reflect on all that you've done, your reputation and where you stand today. Which empire do you intend to forge?

CHOOSE

>Bearer of the Golden Branch
You are a hero of the New California Republic, having routed the Legion at the great Battle of Hoover dam and been recognized for your velour and honor in battle and in service to this great nation. But the NCR is still a corrupt and flimsy nation rife with deceit and corruption, spread out to far and too wide until it is nearly bled white upon its own size as bandits, monsters, and other threats continue to flourish in its own borders. The bear is being bitten and stung by a thousand different pests, even as it fights for its superiority over the Bull. You intend to see that change, and the Bear rise up over the former American territory.

>Hero of the Empire
Ave, true to Caesar. You have served the Emperor well, having won him Hoover dam and a ticket into the west. Your face is spread far and wide upon the minted coins of his Legion that carves into this blasted wasteland, ripe for the taking. Unlike the NCR, the Legion finds its strength in unity, discipline, and most importantly leadership under Caesar and his most trusted generals. But its reliance on intentionally stifling technological advance in favor of skill ever proves a disadvantage in more and more cases, as the NCR only increases in knowledge and size. Constant oppression and subjugation of enslaved territories proves almost as much as hassle of logistics as the NCR's great size, as troops must maintain constant vigilance against dissidence and rebellion. Despite opening the door to the West, the Legion cannot move further without sacrificing its own gains. You ponder on ways to permanently affix this, and break the Bull from the chains of those it has enslaved to carve a greater Empire than even Caesar dreams of.

>Vegas' Trump Card
You are the best investment ever made by the smartest man on the planet. Vegas stands as the closest thing to what the Old World once was, but like Mr. House himself is still but a ghost of its former self. Although you activated his robots and won full independence for New Vegas, the old man ever proves to be limited in his sight, perhaps a product of his great age causes his care to limit itself to his precious city. Vegas shines, but only just, and the rest of the Wasteland in darkness. And even the New Vegas of today pales in comparison to the Old World. Prosperity is caught in the cold metallic claws of the Securitrons. Can you break out of the rusted walls of this ancient city and make Vegas truly shine as the capital of a new empire?

>Con't

>>1426582
>WildCard
No Gods. No Masters. You routed the NCR and slain their general, gutted Caesar and his feared Legatus, and killed House himself. You are the master of New Vegas now. But having tasted what the Old World was and looking upon Vegas in its current state, you weep at the dirty, rusted, and ultimately corrupted city you have inherited. Still with an army of upgraded Securitrons at your bidding, the prospect of trying to forge an Empire while being squeezed between two others doesn't sound too impossible. After all, they don't have you on their side do they.

>Other/Write in
Want to play to see another faction rise entirely? As long as there's a reason for them to be in the Sierra Nevada go ahead. You might even try t reestablish the Enclave for example

>>1426588
>No Gods. No Masters. You routed the NCR and slain their general, gutted Caesar and his feared Legatus, and killed House himself. You are the master of New Vegas now. But having tasted what the Old World was and looking upon Vegas in its current state, you weep at the dirty, rusted, and ultimately corrupted city you have inherited. Still with an army of upgraded Securitrons at your bidding, the prospect of trying to forge an Empire while being squeezed between two others doesn't sound too impossible. After all, they don't have you on their side do they.
Time to attempt to build an Anarchocapitalist paradise here in the Mojave!

>>1426582
>>Vegas' Trump Card
I want to see what we can accomplish with the old man. He's got some good shit if he's a living relic of the Old World.

>>1426639
If whatever faction leaders we start with prove wanting, we could always off them to go back to >Wildcard.
Out of all the factions we have save for >Wildcard, >Vegas' Trump Card seems the most willing for this option.

>>1426588
>Vegas' Trump Card
You are the best investment ever made by the smartest man on the planet. Vegas stands as the closest thing to what the Old World once was, but like Mr. House himself is still but a ghost of its former self. Although you activated his robots and won full independence for New Vegas, the old man ever proves to be limited in his sight, perhaps a product of his great age causes his care to limit itself to his precious city. Vegas shines, but only just, and the rest of the Wasteland in darkness. And even the New Vegas of today pales in comparison to the Old World. Prosperity is caught in the cold metallic claws of the Securitrons. Can you break out of the rusted walls of this ancient city and make Vegas truly shine as the capital of a new empire?

>>1426692
if I remember correctly he wanted man on the moon in like 10-20 years after the game at the latest. I loved House.

>>1426582
Actually question, Could we be the Enclave? because if so, I want to change my vote here >>1426699

1 vote for independent
2 votes for House

>>1426588
>>Other/Write in
>>1426712
I would think so. So long as they're a faction that exists in New Vegas, the Courier can pretty much make any faction work.
What about the Brotherhood of Steel? Weren't the Enclaves originally villains?

>>1426582
>>1426712
I would like to advocate for the Followers of the Apocalypse. They have the right leaders in science and medicine to create a utopia, and with good enough leadership and defense it can transform the Mojave.

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>>1426712
Absolutely, although remember currently the Enclave of the Sierra Nevada currently consists of a handful of old timers well past their prime.

Well, if it gets voted a handful of old timers plus a Courier. Good odds for a faction outlawed by the NCR, the BOS and of course the Legion.

>>1426720
The Enclave is the rightful continuation of the proper American Government as outlined in the Constitution of the United States.

Also yes they were hella evil, at least from FO3.

But the old guys in FNV are more like retired run away nazi officers in Argentina at worst, and generally seemed nice except for that one fellow who really hated the NCR's guts.

>>1426720
>Enclave the Villains.

If you look at them from a morality stand point yes, but this is also fallout. No side is 'mortally' just in any fashion. The Enclave are actually the only 'true' members from the Old American government in any fashion. The BoS broke off from them and started the war because they found out about the FEV and that was being tested on prisoners and PoW's. If we could fix the Enclaves needs to just murder everybody instead of use them as labor they would be great. Due to the mass 'cullings' they suffered, That surprisingly wouldn't be too hard unless QM has his own lore.

>>1426725
Which is why they could defend themselves as is right? Lol.

>>1426729
I'm gonna vote for Enclave, God Bless the Enclave and America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72snIjhvpMA

>>1426730
If the Enclave gets voted in you'll essentially have to rebuild the Enclave from the ground up, recruiting masses and key figures to their cause.

>>1426741
I shall vote for the Enclave. God bless America

>>1426639
1 for independant
>>1426740
>>1426743
2 for Enclave
>>1426725
1 for followers of the Apocalypse

Current tally unless I missed someone, I'm in no rush if noting gets voted today I will check the thread tomorrow. Feel free to think on what you'd really like to play!

>WildCard
We've already cleaned up a lot of the Mojave's bullshit so turning it into it's own nation seems the best thing to do.

>>1426754
2 for independent

>>1426750
All these choices. You also forgot my earlier vote >>1426692.

>>1426741
That makes it all the perfect, What better place then to rebuild it then the New Vegas one of the most important places in America Before and Post, nuclear bombing.

>>1426754
>>1426763

Join the Enclave side, we atleast start with people who are actually trained in starting proper military tactics and only lost cause of a PC.

>>1426750
If Enclave wins we get to be the president right?

>>1426763
Ah, right.

>>1426692
1 for House

>>1426764
It's not like the Mojave doesn't have former militia in it's borders. At the very least we have Boone.

>>1426767
Only if you're ready for the campaign trail!

>>1426770
Militias are super useful when holding onto places of known land. However they are usually under geared and under-supplied. Where as with the Enclave personal we would have an edge in almost every field of training plus how to properly fly verti-birds. Locations for hidden Enclave catches, and other things of that nature.

Boones a good kid, but I mean. I'd rather have a squad of military guys with years of experience then just 1 guy.

Current Tally
2 for independent
2 for Enclave
1 for followers of Apoc
1 for House

Current tally!

>>1426776
>>1426767

If we were a pretty cool cat then I'm sure we could win election of the Enclave no issue. This is making me want to replay Fallout 3 and New Vegas now.

>>1426778
I just don't want to be Enclave because they seem to be a continuation of a bunch of the shit that led to the great war anyhow.
I doubt they learned their lesson about the past or how to actually get civilians to cooperate on a large scale.

>>1426780
What about a Brotherhood of steel path? What would we get? What shall be the objective?

>>1426767
>>1426776
Courier for 228X!

>>1426778
>I'd rather have a squad of military guys with years of experience then just 1 guy.
>then just 1 guy.
One guy is all we need.

Fully independent. Launched nukes at both sites from the Lonesome Road. Our rival is alive and contemplating the world now out on that perch.

From our vantage point atop The 88 we forge a new empire. Attempting to use the fire of the enclave remnant alongside the compassion of the followers of the Apocalypse to lead the people out of darkness.

>>1426784
I strongly recommend it I plan to myself, it's been a long time

>>1426785
Well you'd have a point if we were talking about the East Coast enclave, but like, with only 6 old people to start with you might have an easier time convincing them to change their ideology.

Hilariously, thats the sort of complaint the NCR gets too by Caesar.

>>1426789
That would need to be a write in, but it would be akin to the House Quest. Like house, the BOS is very narrow minded, focused primarily on hoarding and guarding advanced technology for themselves alone, even if for a chivalrous cause. Hence the war between them and the NCR.

You'd work to get them out of their monastic funk and into the empire building mood.

>>1426582
>Hero of the Empire
you profligates better vote for establishing a new Rome or you'll end up like the whores in Nipton

>>1426795
Also, since he's still alive, we need to convince him to join us in rebuilding the world he longs for but has never known.

>>1426785
as Qm said here >>1426741 we'd have abunch of guys who disliked the bad shit the Enclave did and be able to do a fresh start of it. We'd also have abunch of knowledge and shit they did.

Also the only reason the guys who 'did' the great war died along fucking time ago and paid the price.

>>1426790
Ourselves? Is this what unlimited power feels like?

>>1426796
I wish I owned the older games, All I have is old lore and this nasty ass Fallout 4 that decides to fuck proper canon in the ass.

>>1426799
>New Rome
Ya, Cause the Last one worked so well...you know with the downfall and dark ages and things like that.

>>1426795
3 Votes for independent!

This is the first vote to get 3. Since we have a lot more potential players in the quest, I'm going to give about half an hour or so for other votes to make a counter argument before locking it in.

Any other votes by then get to three and we'll vote do tie breaker.

>WildCard

>Changing to Enclave
If we're actually gonna do a reformed Enclave, then I change my vote to Enclave.
Having access to old world tech would do a us a lot of good and it'd probably make us fast friends with the Followers anyways.

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Let's make that nation!

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>>1426804
silence profligate

>>1426826
I can't hear you over the sound of that Football armor rushing across a minefield into Plasma fire.

>>1426819
>>1426820
With a switch and a new vote, the score is tied at 3 for 3 Enclave and Wildcard.

These two options are LOCKED.

---

Please re-vote whether you would like to see Enclave Quest or Independent.

>>1426826
Have fun getting beat out by a bunch of faggots from California of all places.

>>1426832
Enclave Baby.
Stars and Stripes forever.

>>1426832
This will confirm the game and move us onto the next step.

>>1426832
Enclave

No reason we can't sway various other groups into joining with us.

>>1426832
independent, we shall forge a more perfect society

>>1426832
Indy. We can take the people we want to join us. Or try to at least.

The courier and Ulysses. Working together to forge a nation. Butting heads on ideology but building a lifelong friendship and trust.

"Look at what you've built, Courier."
"What we built."

>>1426799
>or you'll end up like the whores in Nipton
>Nipton
But what about that glorious steel that's been folded over 1,000 times?

>>1426810
Is it possible to run a Write-in where we spared House, but we're effectively puppeting him as one of the other faction options?

>>1426784
Honestly we could get any leadership position pretty easily, given >>1426560.

Yes, embrace the Fallout.

>>1426804
>Ourselves? Is this what unlimited power feels like?
Certainly. Now help me shock these robots into life with lightning.

>>1426832
>>1426780
>>1426820
Enclave, sway splinter factions like Followers of the Apocalypse into joining our ragtag band.

>>1426832
Enclave. I'm glad to catch one of these empire builder /qst/'S at the start.

>>1426845
Wait, will Ulysses join us if we pick the Enclave?

>>1426850
Not at the start, you'll have to find him. Unfortunately you don't know where he went.

>>1426850
He has no reason not too. We're building a new one, Learning from the past to make a brighter future. We're not regressing like he hates.

>>1426846
I just realized, We could even get to Big Mt or w.e. that is called. Thats New vegas right?

>>1426850
Enclave a shit.

Bro up with Ulysses. Try and recruit the Enclave remnants to help rebuild the country they thought they were fighting for. Build what NEEDS to be built.

>>1426855
Big Mountain is the super secret science facility run by brains in jars which may or may not include yours working from a distance

New Vegas is Vegas, except its not new but really old and honestly decrepit but much better than the wasteland in general.

>>1426855
That is NV, but I have no idea if our Courier has done the DLC or not.
If we did though, letting the Followers in would certainly get them in our pocket.

>>1426854
How about staying with him at the end of the road, engaging in philosophical discussions about what the world needs, and setting out to so it together.

>>1426861
I meant, Thats a dlc FOR new Vegas.

>>1426863
Hey, I'm down with bringing the Followers in for there medical knowledge and stuff with Enclave. I see no reason, they do want a better tommorrow just.. don't have the stuff they need to bring order to reach said places.

>>1426863
>That is NV, but I have no idea if our Courier has done the DLC or not.
He did. Exactly how he resolved them will be decided in game.

>>1426855
>>1426861
You're talking about the Think Tank, correct?

>>1426870
Interesting.

>>1426870
So long as we murder the Think Tank and get all the AI in the Sink up and running, we good.

>>1426872
Yup. Rip Murder toaster.

>>1426836
>>1426839
>>1426846
>>1426847
4 for Enclave

>>1426844
>>1426845
2 for Independant.

ENCLAVE OPTION IS LOCKED

Don't worry if your vote didn't get picked though, there's always room for change and new decisions.

>Writing

>>1426878
I hope you stay around QM. It'll suck to catch one live but have it die after 1 thread

>>1426411
>>1426878
>>Writing
This is one of the fastest discussions I've seen for character generation so far.

>>1426877
At least we still have Muggy.

>>1426880
I've had it happen to me before to my deepest regret, I would hate to do that to you guys and its my intent not to.

I might be slow on updates when school resumes, but damned I won't let this die

>>1426886
It's a lot faster when it's 4+ choices for one thing instead of 10+ choices for 50 things.

>>1426888
When we finish tonight. Might I suggest making a Twitter to let us know when you run?

>>1426886
Oh ya, And the light switches that wanted to do lewd things.

>>1426878

Goddamn you Enclavefags

I just want to make a monarchy where we're the emperor but NOOOOOOO, you motherfuckers wanna rebuild America.

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>>1426888
it wasn't 1 thread btw, more like fifth thread

>>1426891
I'll think about it. Might use Discord instead

>>1426894
>Rebuild GOAT Country
OR
>stick with a bunch of retards in football gear with machetes and 20 guage break actions

>>1426894
>implying you can't rebuild it as the first American Empire.

as long as we have baseball, Apple pie and white picket fences, i don't see an issue.

>>1426896
Bitching.

>>1426894
But America is the Wasteland. And it would be majestic if the Wasteland would become America again.

>>1426896
I believe both are useful. Though, discord has indeed been catching on

>>1426898

I'm not saying we should be the Legion of raping luddites.

Just be like other great empires. Like the Assyrians.

>>1426899

First American Empire....fuck I'm all for it.

>>1426902

We could do the same as any other empire, just didn't want a democracy limiting us

Will we see any famous Mods from the game make it into this quest? Even if it's just some equipment or cameos by fanmade characters.

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House, the NCR, the Legion none of them were really important to you. In fact if the battle of Hoover Dam were to happen right now, you would hardly care.

For all you know it IS happening right now.

You've seen the Old World America, through simulations and footage, and the fever of old world blues and patriotism has gripped you with a fiery passion! You yearn to see that greatness and prosperity brought back to the wasteland, when all that is offered is the sad parody of it that is the NCR and the brutal totalitarian rule of the Legion and. . .the enigmatic House.

The Enclave calls to you. But you've read the old NCR newspapers and know enough about history. The Enclave was destroyed decades ago in an Oil Rig, blown to bits, while any stragglers were summarily hunted down, tried, and executed by the NCR. Nothing remains of the Enclave but memories.

Except a handful of old timers that you've called here to this bunker right now with an important thing to say.

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You arrive at the Remnants Bunker, located on your Pimp Boy. You had to do a few errands for Arcade a long time ago, the details aren't that important.

You remember you are wearing:
>The Remnants Power Armor - The Toughest Goddamn armor you've been able to find in the Sierra Nevada, hands down. Its hugely fitting for this occasion as well.
>The MK II Stealth Suit - Ever since you put "her" on you really are loathed to ever get her off your body. She has such a nice soft touch, and she's so friendly, warning you of enemies and telling you when its nice and safe. She's damned good at hide and seek.
>Your boxer shorts - Fuck armor. Fuck clothes. You beat a nest of Cazadores to death in only your boxer shorts. Any other person walking around naked would be a huge embarrassment and taboo, but you're the motherfucking Courier!
>Other/Write in?

>>1426912
>The Remnants Power Armor - The Toughest Goddamn armor you've been able to find in the Sierra Nevada, hands down. Its hugely fitting for this occasion as well.

>>1426912
>The remnants power armor.

Just because we don't pick something, does not mean we have it correct?

>>1426912
Gimme dat all american power armor

>>1426916
Correct, but choices directly influence your characters preference and fighting style.

>>1426912
>>1426920
>>Other/Write in?
Can we get the AI for
>The MK II Stealth Suit - Ever since you put "her" on you really are loathed to ever get her off your body. She has such a nice soft touch, and she's so friendly, warning you of enemies and telling you when its nice and safe. She's damned good at hide and seek.
and stuff it in
>The Remnants Power Armor - The Toughest Goddamn armor you've been able to find in the Sierra Nevada, hands down. Its hugely fitting for this occasion as well.

>>1426917
Indeed.

>>1426912

>Other/Write in?

Remnant power armor, modified with a built in displacer glove. And a duster over it

>>1426912
>Reinforced Leather Armor and a Bandana - This modest armor has been with you across the breadth of the Mojave, withstanding many a gunshot or Deathclaw. The bandana also makes a mean fashion statement.

>>1426912
>The MK II Stealth Suit - Ever since you put "her" on you really are loathed to ever get her off your body. She has such a nice soft touch, and she's so friendly, warning you of enemies and telling you when its nice and safe. She's damned good at hide and seek.


Whatever we choose, put a duster on it

>>1426921
Not to start with, but you can go to Big MT. and see if it can be done.

>>1426922
>>1426930
>Whatever we choose, put a duster on it
>>1426912
>>1426921
Of course, no outfit would look complete without a duster.

>>1426933
Do we still have the other options in the armory or our inventory, if we wanted to get the AI from the >The MK II Stealth Suit for the >The Remnants Power Armor later?

>>1426912
>>The MK II Stealth Suit - Ever since you put "her" on you really are loathed to ever get her off your body. She has such a nice soft touch, and she's so friendly, warning you of enemies and telling you when its nice and safe. She's damned good at hide and seek.

>>1426947
>>1426930

Power armor with a Duster... Thank God Fallout already makes no fucking sense because that's some bitching armor.

>>1426947
You cannot carry every single piece of clothing you have ever encountered, far too heavy. Some things had to be left in a safe place for storage.

However the Stealth Suit is in your inventory if its not picked.

>>1426915
>>1426916
>>1426917
>>1426952
4 for Power Armor (with Duster!)

>>1426930
>>1426951
2 for Stealth Suit

>>1426929
1 for Leather Armor and Bandana

Writing

>>1426959
Wait, QM. You counted me twice by mistake. I was just saying how nifty Power armor with a Duster would look. I'm only 1 vote. This guy >>1426921 I think tho.

>>1426959
>>1426965
Yep >>1426947.

>>1426965
Thanks, I see it now.
>>1426921
This is a hybrid option, its within your reach but you'll need to travel to Big MT later on for it.

It still feels like Power Armor seems to be the majority vote of 3 unless I am mistaken.

>>1426974
you are not mistake and all good. Even if power armor had lost cause of it. It'd be kinda dickish you know.

>>1426965
>>1426970
Uh....
>>1426915
>>1426916
>>1426917
>>1426930

>>1426974
Yep. Also I vote for Power Armor.

>>1426982
>>1426930
Wow, I misread that. I still vote for power armor though.

Remember gentleman

>However the Stealth Suit is in your inventory if its not picked.

We can change outfits, I think

>>1426982
>Uh....
Were you in doubt over the Power Armor (with Duster!) combo?

>>1426952
Oh yeah, totally.

>>1426994
Yeah, but this is >The Remnants Power Armor we're wearing here.

Wear that sweet LA Riot armor from Lonesome Road.

>>1427011
No, I was in doubt about the vote count. But I was actually wrong.

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You're wearing the Remnant Power Armor, you love to get in a good scrap! Dishing out all the punishment while taking it in stride, this armor truly represents the superiority of American Engineering!

You do have the Stealth Suit in your pack, sneaking has its uses by why sneak when you can fight! You also have some leather armor and a bandanna in your inventory for civil occasions, whatever those are.

The brown duster you wear over your armor is riddled with holes and stains, but is as much a part of the suit as it is a part of your identity.

You also remember the weapon you have at your side, your preferred instrument of delivering your particular style of justice at range.
>A Shoulder Fired Fat Man - Who cares if you're indoors, the threat of this baby is good enough!
>Gatling Gun - Ol' reliable at 3000 RPM
>"Big Iron" - That song just wouldn't stop playing in a row one day, making you annoyed. You got yourself an Anti-Material Rifle, sliced off most of the barrel and refitted it with a custom revolver style loading system. This is one weapon you didn't find in the wasteland!
>Anti-Material Rifle - Perfect for picking off pesky pests at a 1000 yards away. Like people in Power Armor for example.
>Alien Blaster - You only have so many of these little glowy things you think are power cells, but who cares this thing is awesome. You've left a long trail of glowing goop in the wasteland with this baby
>Other/Ranged

And when push comes to shove and the badguys are a bit to close, you've also got a good melee weapon
>A Ballistic Fist - Punch people in the face and watch their head explode into itty bitty bits
>Super Sledge - It's always hammer time
>Thermic Lance - This thing melts through everything. Literally. You've yet to find something that stops it.
>Cosmic Knife - This unholy thing is too sharp for anyone's good. It has on many occasions poked through your power armor and given you a nasty cut, and to hold it at your side in conventional knife holsters is a joke whose punchline is a lost toe. The only way you managed to wear it safely was by using the Thermic lance to melt and creating a holster made out other cosmic knives.
>Other/Write in

>>1427031
Before you ask, you haven't yet found enough cosmic knives to make a sword.

>>1427031
>Alien Blaster - You only have so many of these little glowy things you think are power cells, but who cares this thing is awesome. You've left a long trail of glowing goop in the wasteland with this baby

>Cosmic Knife - This unholy thing is too sharp for anyone's good. It has on many occasions poked through your power armor and given you a nasty cut, and to hold it at your side in conventional knife holsters is a joke whose punchline is a lost toe. The only way you managed to wear it safely was by using the Thermic lance to melt and creating a holster made out other cosmic knives.

>>1427031
I really want Big Iron but the Alien Blaster is tech would could learn from, hard choices.

Melee is an easy one. Our enemies can't block if we cut through it.

>Alien Blaster, Cosmic Knife.

>>1427031
>"Big Iron"
>Cosmic Knife
Big Iron sounds like a quick-draw fuck you and the uses for the Cosmic Knife are near endless

>>1427031
How many of these weapons can we hold in our inventory?

>>1427033
We can do this? I'm sorely tempted now.

>>1427056
>How many of these weapons can we hold in our inventory?
Not many. I'm not going to be super specific on weight but in general you can expect to hold about 2 heavy weapons tops, plus maybe about 11 medium weapons (or double that in small handhelds). And thats if you were naked, wearing the power armor and holding clothes also adds to the weight.

Is our Cosmic Knife clean or dirty?
There is a considerable difference between the two.

>>1427031
>"Big Iron"
>Cosmic Knife

>A Light Shining in Darkness
>Fist

>>1427031
>"Big Iron"

>Thermic Lance

>>1427049
I think we'll still have an Alien Blaster if we don't use it as our main ranged weapon. At least in storage if not inventory.

>>1427062
Clean

There was a super-heated one you found, Arcade asked for it and has it. Says its useful for cauterizing wounds during "emergency amputations"

Cosmic Knife LOCKED

>>1427035
>>1427049
2 for Alien Blaster

>>1427053
>>1427064
>>1427065
3 for "Big Iron"

Writing

>>1427073
We are totally making a Saturnite Sword in the future. That's just too baller to pass up.

>>1427061
>>1427049
>>1427065
Yep, it is. I suppose this means what weapons we're best at and what we spend the most ammo out of.

>>1427031
>>"Big Iron" - That song just wouldn't stop playing in a row one day, making you annoyed. You got yourself an Anti-Material Rifle, sliced off most of the barrel and refitted it with a custom revolver style loading system. This is one weapon you didn't find in the wasteland!

>>Cosmic Knife - This unholy thing is too sharp for anyone's good. It has on many occasions poked through your power armor and given you a nasty cut, and to hold it at your side in conventional knife holsters is a joke whose punchline is a lost toe. The only way you managed to wear it safely was by using the Thermic lance to melt and creating a holster made out other cosmic knives.

Most useful items we have so far.

>>1427027
Ah, right. Counting can blur together at times.

>>1427080
QM, were you the same guy who made Fallout ship quest?

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Here stands the Courier. Decked in his potent Remnant Power armor draped by an old Duster.

In his right hand a personally crafted weapon unlike any other, a 28mm six shooter crafted from the barrel of an NCR Anti-Tank/Anti-Material rifle, the "Big Iron" so heralded in the song. Any other man would have needed to just hold this with two hands, let alone fire it, but not you. In your side arm, you have your not-so-trusted Cosmic Knife, which has a propensity to hurt you as much as it can your enemeis. Good thing you're pretty skilled at Melee Weapons in general, this thing causes some really bad owies.

>You prefer to face your enemies openly in Power Armor!
>You prefer getting up close and personal, blasting them with well aimed pistol-cannon shots and slicing them with a knife!

---

The sound of your heavy footsteps can be heard as the old soldiers gather around the holographic table, continuing to fade away as old soldiers do.

Doctor Henry the Scientist/combat engineer
Orion Moreno, the soldier and heavy weapons trooper
Judah Kreger, the (former) Commanding officer and captain
Cannibal Johnson,Soldier, sniper, and marksman
Daisy Whitman, vertibird pilot.

Arcade is here too, also wondering what you plan to do.

They answered your call to gather at the Bunker, and ask you why you've gathered them here.

"What's the meaning of this meeting anywho?" askes Kreger.

>Write-in response requested
>If you cannot come up with words, then simply state your intentions/goals for the group. what is it you want to tell them
>Roll a 1d100 with your posts

And that's it for me tonight folks! I have to go to bed. May not be on tomorrow due to a long trip but should be back by Saturday at least. Take this time to come up with an outline of what major goals and plans you have for the Enclave!

>>1427132
nope. I ran Imperial Japan in Fantasyland quest back in 2012.

Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>1427135

"I just have one thing to say, short and sweet. We take America, even places beyond that. A manifest destiny for a new American empire, I ask that you all join me. The old guard to train the new and inexperienced. What do you say? Are you with me? Are you ready to make a newer, greater America?"

>>1427135
Night man. Get some sleep.

Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>1427135
>Brothers and Sisters. I have asked you all here for another request one that may shock you to some degree. The future is bleak with the corrupt NCR, And the Slave Driven Legion. House only cared for greed and his own wealth. I've killed many people and yet I've also brought hopes and dreams to many. I ask you to help me reforge a future for the various people of the wasteland for now to drive out the NCR and Legion for good, with House's cards being brought to us.

We would bring the remaining goods of the Brotherhood of Steel into our control, Secure assets for a bright future that are unused or not repairable from the NCR and Legion and gather the cities and peoples togeather with flowing water and power to everybody along with food. Training the up the masses to be a proper military and resecuring industry and medical knowledge from the Followers and you here to ensure we defend ourselves.

I want to see the wasteland dare I even say, Maybe farther out actually bloom once more under civilization one that cares for all of its people, not just a few. I know this sounds like every other speech made but I ask for you to look at my deeds and what I have done and what we can do together for a bright future. A future for all of America.

>Resecure the Flow of Caps, Water, Food, Power and building supplies
>Get people to work in factories or farms or things like that so they can afford these new goods thus kick starting an industry
>Get the Followers and the current Enclave to get proper hospitals up and a Military trained up
>Secure BoS and other Enclave goods for the military and us
>Restart education and various other important things I have forgotten.
If anybody has a better speech or w.e. please do.

Now onto to our speech.
Main Goals:
>Establish a reformed Enclave as the dominant power in the Mojave.
>Reclaim old world technology with the cooperation of the Followers of the Apocalypse.
>Begin enlistment of troops.
>Secure the borders of the Mojave.
>Eventually take new territory and absorb the wasteland into the New American Republic.
Anything else we want to put on that?

Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>1427135
This man seems to have an idea at the very least so far. >>1427167 so my roll for it

>>1427180
>>1427167
Fuck it, I'm with them

>>1427185
Yours is actually pretty close to mine in terms of a plan. I just added a speech to mine albeit kinda shoddyly.

>>1427180
Also Jesus anon, Somebody feels American tonight.

Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>1427167
This is good.
I'd like to make one addition. I suggest we say something about restoring the Enclave and making it what it should be; that we must be the continuation and rebirth of America that the people need, and in doing so restore their faith in our cause.

>>1427180
Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
thread theme

>>1427167

To add on to the goals

>Form an effective army that can act as a conquering force in times of war, and a police in times of peace

>Secure control of the Mojave, if any wish to fight against us they'll be given the chance to surrender peacefully. If not then they'll face annihilation

>Grow more across America, doing the same as above. Securing Old World technology along the way.

>Gain a firm control of food, water, caps and other resources

>Establish Old World systems of taxes, education, and laws

>Make the American Empire be the only civilization where a man or woman truly can live and prosper.

You could use my speech

>>1427202
I'm alright with that.

Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>1427167

And I'll add on to the rolls

>>1427167
I'm going to add that we shall hold a presidential election right now! And I, the courier shall be a candidate

>>1427225
That might even be more of a forced 'i'm the leader' then mine. Considering nobody else has currently done as much as us.

>>1427225
>>1427228
Yeah. Shouldn't we leave the presidential election for after the Battle of Hoover Dam?
There's only, what, 10 guys in this entire organization?

>>1427234
7 in the west coast. Everyone in the bunker and Arcade.

>>1427298
That's only in the Mojave, if we scour through the West Coast we would probably find a few dozen more

>>1427325
>if we scour through the West Coast we would probably find a few dozen more
>a few dozen more
There are literally dozens of us, dozens!

>>1427325
If we put out an alert. The other enclave outposts might return. Who knows what long range tech is sitting in Mr. HOUSES place and I hope we out yes man in charge cause his great for a puppet for us

Would it be a long shot to try to reason with the Brotherhood into joining us? They are a powerfull force that i would prefer not having as enemies.

>>1427333
I'm sure Enclave also has a few secret bunkers all over the West Coast that we could find and salvage equipment from

>>1427363
>BOS
>Cooperating with anything even remotely resembling the Enclave
Naw. They're pricks anyways. They can go die in a fire.

>>1427363
>BoS
>Friendly with anybody that even looks techy

fuck those traitors.

>>1427375
>>1427380
Had to ask.

>>1427373
Probably.

Are we going to ditch the whole 'purity' angle that the Enclave stuck to? Because if we want to rebuild America, we're probably going to have to do it with the slightly mutated / irradiated populace.

>>1427456
We kinda have to ditch the "Purity" bit.
We can't afford to waste resourceson exterminating everybody who doesn't fall withing a certain percentage of a genetic pattern. Fortunately for us, the people of the Mojave seem to be a hardy and industrious people. Even the mutants pull their weight here.

Going on for a bit, if i"m lucky I'll be able to reply in and out of the day.

>>1427167
>Kreger
"Son, if I didn't know you better I'd say you took out a page from Richardson's speeches and decided to repeat it back to us. That's the same sort of thing all the presidents repeated in Navarro for two hundred years.

I don't know what new idea's come over you son but we've lived our whole lives believing that dream. We've seen people close to us give their lives, and done some pretty nasty things for it, only for it up in our face and turn to ash. We're not too keen on dedicating the last bits of our lives on something that was lost a long time ago."

>>1427167
>>1427180
>>1427212
At first the group has a look on their face as if they've heard all of this before (to be honest they have). But as you talk on, there's a twinkle in their eyes, like an old fire relit. Some of them start to remember the American dream they once shared, and hearing it come from you, talk of bringing back prosperity and peace stops being a record player and starts being an honest message they want to believe in again.

Even Arcade seems to be impressed, but ever the logical thinker he has to point out the obvious.
>Arcade
"Those are some noble goals you've set yourself out to do, but the NCR has you beat by about 100 years. Corrupt as they are they have been establishing farms and factories, reclaiming technology, establishing a military and safe zones. I can't say they've been the perfect guardian angels, but for all their greed they have been reestablishing civilization and keeping the Legion out of the Nevada."

>Moreno
Unlike the others Moreno is dressed in his power armor. "Fuck the NCR. I don't care what trinkets and scraps they make as hand outs, I'd sooner join the Legion than the NCR anyday."

Arcade is visibly distressed at this thought, but still some things had to be said.

"And for all of the NCR's corruption, it has to be said the Enclave wasn't a beacon of morality either." Arcade looks to Kreger.

Kreger nods back. "Arcade is right. In a way sometimes the Enclave was as bad as the Legion in how it approached the wasteland. There was a lot of wrong done to a lot of innocent people for the sake of the "greater good"

You can sense Moreno's anger beneath his armor. "It was war. We followed our orders and did what we had to do. No more than any NCR soldier or Legionaire."

>Daisy
"I would like to get back in a Vertiberd cockpit. . .but look sweetie, we're not exactly the young men and women we used to be."

>Doc Henry
"Daisy is right. You want to establish a nation with 6 old soldiers, one young doctor and a Courier. Now you've done some pretty amazing things but that seems like too tall an order for anyone."

>con't

>>1427484
>>Doc Henry
>"Daisy is right. You want to establish a nation with 6 old soldiers, one young doctor and a Courier. Now you've done some pretty amazing things but that seems like too tall an order for anyone."

Did we help out the boomers in this 'play-through'? If so, let them know about them. The old guys aren't gonna be doing the fighting, they'll be training the boomers.

>>1427495
Of course we helped the Boomers.
You'd have to be retarded not to.

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>>1427484
>Arcade
"He does make some nice points about reform and education, and working with the Followers. Ever since Kimball the NCR decided to establish their own Office of Science and Industry, the NCR hasn't been the best of patrons. Many of the followers suspect if they win at Hoover Dam, the NCR is going to drive us out."

>Kreger
"Tell us Arcade, you've traveled with the man. Do you really think he's capable of all this?"

>Arcade
He pauses and thinks on it for a moment. "There hasn't been anything I've seen the man set out to do that he hasn't accomplished, and some of the tales he's told me about places like Big MT or the Sierra Madre Casino I wouldn't have believed myself if he didn't bring back proof.

If he really means what he says to work with the followers and recruit local villages, I think he could do it. Its going to take more than just the seven of us. But from what I've seen, he's made a lot of good friends. If he brings them along, we can do it."

Kreger nods.

"Alright son, you've got the Devil's Brigade on your side. Show us some of those crazy Courier deeds to back those words, and maybe we can do a lot of good in the time these old dogs have left."

[SUCCESS]

---

You have successfully convinced the Enclave Remnants to your side. You now have control over one settlement. I'll be statting it when I get a chance to sit down and do it.

>>1427505
We probably have the securitrons too. If we wanted to remake america, then we probably kicked everyone else out, so that gives us a foothold in vegas and some manpower.

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>>1427530
In this Scenario, the battle of Hoover Dam has not yet happened. House is still alive, and in control of both Vegas and the Securitrons which haven't yet been upgraded by the Platinum Chip.

You actually have it in your inventory.

CHOOSE:
You remember you got the chip by:

Going to the Tops and:
>Slaughtering Benny and/or everyone inside
>Pickpocketing Benny and leaving without being noticed
>Convinced Swank to kill Benny then looted hisbody
>Intimidated the shit out of Benny
>Seduced Benny with amazing charisma skills
>Other?

OR

Went to the fort and:
>Convinced Caesar to give you the chip (after HE killed benny, or stole it, you're not sure how the Legion did it) and that you would kill house with it
>Pickpocketed Caesar and leaving without being noticed
>Slaughtering Caesar and/or everyone inside
>Other?

>>1427548
>>Slaughtering Benny and/or everyone inside

>>1427548
>>Convinced Caesar to give you the chip after HE crucified benny

>>1427548
>Going to the Tops and:
>>Other?
Ripping apart Benny with our bare hands, and then just walking away, laughing as the casino's small arms as well as the unupgraded securitrons just bounced off our power armor.

>>1427560
Supporting this.

>>1427548
>>Pickpocketing Benny and leaving without being noticed
You know what causes fear? When a person in power armor sneaks up to ya.

>>1427548
do >>1427560

>>1427548
>convinced swanks to kill benny

>>1427548
I'll back >>1427560

>>1427548
>>Intimidated the shit out of Benny

>>1427560
Do it. The future Waits for no man, not even you Mr.House

>>1427548
>>1427617
2nd. Was this one of the original options? I don't remember it being possible to do it this way without Benny running away.

>>1427548
>Intimidated the shit out of Benny

>>1427548
Distracting Benny with an intricate song and dance number, courtesy of a hack job of the local securitrons

>>1427965
If there were enough votes for this to have a chance, I would vote for this. Unfortunately, there aren't so I'll stick with >>1427650.

>>1427650
Benny always runs away, Unless you kill him from what I've seen.

>>1427974
Yeah, but I was thinking maybe something different happened if we intimidate him this time.

>>1427983
i'm not sure why it would.

If I can remember correctly, ceaser dies shortly after the second battle for the damn and the legion rips it apart if we don't cure him. So that's one major player as long as the NCR suffers and the legion from the secruitrons and Yes Man, after a few reprogramings is put into Mr. Houses spot. We should be mostly fine to secure our means of goods

>>1427548
>Intimidated the shit out of Benny

>>1427560
And after this, we can just destroy the fort and everything inside of it, except maybe the Securitrons. We could use those as part of our army

>>1427988
Generally speaking there are definitely elements of the plot that do not conform to the video game. You can certainly fluff and vote for something about our history that wasn't in the game.

>>1427557
>>1427562
>>1427607
3 for Kill Benny (with or without the Tops)
>>1427560
>>1427564
>>1427602
>>1427609
>>1427649
5 for "Got it from Caesar (who killed Benny)
>>1427617
>>1427774
>>1428011
3 for intimidation

"Got it from Caesar" LOCKED

>Writing

>>1428110
>>1427650
You also forgot my vote again, which makes it 4 for intimidation. But that's not enough anyways.

>>1428104
Neat.

>>1428125
Sorry bout that, I try to catch em all

>>1428138
>I try to catch em all
Clearly you have some ways to go before you can become the questing master.

>>1428159
He got some good hits in, right?

Should we create an American Republic, or some Autocracy?

Republic all the way, let's bring back the good ol days of the U S of A

>>1428447
America is a Republic for and of the People.

Though, this is a period of crisis, so Emergency Powers need to be temporarily granted to the office of the President.

>>1428452
>>1428447
First American Empire. The people are currently too stupid Like the real world. To be part of a Republic or Democracy without it ending up and abusing them in some fashion.

>>1428452
Of course, of course.

>>1428460
UN-AMERICAN BELIEFS DETECTED

DIRTY PINKO

>>1428463
>Un-american
>Letting american's suffer when you have the chance to ensure they won't need too.

Let me guess, You think the NCR is the best fucking faction ever made? All because of Muh 'supposed' Freedom?

>>1428471
Oh hell no. Autocratic and bureaucratic nonsense.

We'll stop suffering by enlightening the Wastes with Americans Freedom.

You sir, are an Un-American communist.

>>1428447
The First American Empire

>>1428484
>Communism
>First American Empire

Ohboy.

>>1428495
commie

>>1428447
A republic with suspended elections until stability can be established. Then we step down for the elections. And they will call us Cinncinatus.

>>1428515
That could work.
I figure we're the most likely candidate in those elections considering the shit we're gonna have to pull off beforehand.

>>1428515
A Napoleon sort of figure could also be nice, maybe even a Julius Caesar.

>>1428515
>>1428521
A metricrotcy would be better until we actually get tensions down. I know for a fact I misspelled the government type.

still going for an empire however.

>>1428543
>metricrotcy
Meritocracy?

>>1428515
>until stability can be established
Yup, that's a good end date...

>>1428557
Ah, Yes. Thank you.

>>1428515
This is how an autocracy is created. Even if "elections" are "opened up," it will likely be the same people as before, except for maybe one or two actual do-gooders. You'll quickly find those in power rarely will relinquish it unless forced to.

>>1428515
We will be the American Napoleon!

But, like >>1428575 said, we need free elections.

>>1428584
I guess we can hack it on the campaign trail. I figure if we lay out our plans we should get at least a decent amount of public support.

>>1428584
Don't recall saying we needed free elections.

Personally, I'd prefer a Constitutional Monarchy. Congress on one side, King on the other. A proper American Empire can be built off of that, one to put the British Empire to shame.

>>1428591
Fuck monarchies.
We came to this conclusion centuries ago for Christ's sake.

>>1428584
>>1428589
>>1428591
>>1428575
>>1428574
>>1428566
>>1428557
I don't think we will ever be able to have elections during our life. Our Empire wouldn't be stable enough to hand over power to someone maybe less competent, as well as all the other problems associated with democracy. Unless there was a way of gaining immortality...

>>1428589
Plus, in a gameplay perspective, it would be entertaining to stump our way into office.

>>1428600
TRUE PATRIOT

>>1428601
COMMIE

>>1428601
I figure we could have the sink's Auto-Doc put us into a robot or something.
Maybe if we found a synth...

>>1428611
An Imperialist is far from a Commie.

Don't see the issue with the Empire balanced by a proper Congress. Keeps the peasants happy, gives them a voice, and the legislative power while allowing someone of proper blood retain executive power.

>>1428627
>PEASANTS

UNAMERICAAANN

>>1428627
>referring to the people as peasants
>"proper blood"
Worrying me a bit there.

>>1428636
Go be austic and stupid elsewhere

>>1428636
>Autism

>>1428627
We can do the roman republic way. Elected senate except in emergencies, then we elect a dictator for a short period of time.

>>1428636
>>1428639
Would you prefer me call them civilians or citizens? The meaning of these is the same as peasant in this context. But fine. We will give the average citizen the opportunity to run the country. Although, to run a proper campaign, they'd need quite a bit of money or funding from the private sector to tour or be broadcasted on the radio outside of debates, so it still limits the pool of participants. There is no creating a "true and free" election system. No matter what, we'll be plagued with the same issues as the modern American government, so we may as well improve upon it as we can.

>>1428657
So long as we're not a complete dictator and we actually put things to votes with elected officials and shit, I'm fine with whatever.
Except for Communism and Monarchies.

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>>1428640
>>1428649
>Believing in a system that creates an unhappy populace and unmanageable nightmare

>>1428657
Improve upon it by allowing for greater civilian representation. There we go.

>>1428627
Don't see the issue with the Empire balanced by a proper Congress. Keeps the people happy, gives them a voice, and the legislative power while allowing someone of proper blood retain executive power.

>>1428677
>unhappy populace
Anon, if they are secure and kept productive, they don't really need anything else. Besides, people like Napoleon, Augustus, and Julius were beloved.

>>1428677
>>1428693
What government makes a happy populace? What government doesn't create a nightmare for its officials? Do we seem happy with our current government? The Republic has failed us. Only the rich and influential can run anymore. And how do you intend to open it to more people? Is the government going to fund all campaigns? Are we going to tax everyone so that anyone can run? It is not possible in the modern age (or post-modern, as it is) to create such a system. No matter what, someone will be unhappy. Best to do what we can, but keep executive power in proper hands and let everyone else squabble and fight over legislative power.

>>1428701
Julius kept the Republic nominally.

We will be better than all of em when we institute DEMOCRACY

>>1428707
Local elections boy.

How will preventing free and fair representation create a happier populace, they will simply resist the executive branch. We need representation for the people.

How can we call ourselves heirs to America when we are the antithesis to traditional American values?

>>1428711
Julius kept the legislature, which I agree with. Democracy is good when there is order and safety in the nation, not when we have to deal with a post apocalyptic world ravaged by every horrible thing possible. Democracy keeps people happy, while authoritarians get things done.

>>1428731
Authoritarian regimes have consistently proven to be inefficient and unstable, replaced by another autocrat.

Democracy is proven to work.

>>1428741
I'm sorry, but corruption takes hold much faster in Democratic nations then others.

>>1428728
>How can we call ourselves heirs to America when we are the antithesis to traditional American values?

We should not have to. America failed and died. But we are the survivors. We are the true heirs because we are the strongest, and we are the survivors. Traditional American values, those held by the ones who failed America, have no meaning here. Why should we follow a system that lead to the death of the world, alongside Communism?

>>1428731
Which is why I advocate for the middle ground. It can and does work.

>>1428741
>democracy proven to work
HAHAHA HAHAHA
holy shit please tell me you aren't being serious

>>1428741
>Democracy has proven to work, while Authoritarian regimes don't

>Wow I sure like my Congress in gridlock while my country is falling apart

Also, how can you say that Authoritarian regimes don't work? I'm not going full Stalin, but a mix of the free market, legislature, as well as a VERY strong executive branch

>>1428744
Factually incorrect.

Corruption and cronyism ran rampant under the Soviets and the autocratic governments of China, Zaire, Honduras, Brazil, Rhodesia, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, 1930's Italy, Ceaušescu's Romania, Turkey, Ottomans, Thailand, Vietnam, Venezuela and Yugoslavia, not to name countless others.

That's just stupid anon.

>>1428746
So then why are we the Enclave? We might as well be godless communists.

>>1428748
Only superpower on the planet babyyyy

>>1428759
But the enclave weren't godless either. We still believe in the Bible, while having a secular-ish government

We can easily combine the best of both worlds like >>1428746 is suggesting

Also, while I am a patriot, I know the US did not get this way because of just our type of government alone

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>>1428110
You remember that once upon a time you decided to work for Caesar, just to get close to the man and the Legion. Back then you still weren't decided on who you wanted to support.

You did remember how important the chip was and as was getting the man who put bullets in your brain. When you learned from Caesar himself that he had Benny crucified and had the chip in his possession it was disappointing.

Your Pimp Boy still lists Caesars request, you were supposed to go to the Bunker and destroy whatever was inside. You still haven't. That's a choice you can do whenever you feel ready.

Today though, you spend time actually assessing the bunker and seeing what you have.

-----

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve the base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons.
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials.
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 0

>>>>>Reputation level: unknown

>>>>>Settlement Assets (does not represent your inventory)
--REMNANT BUNKER--
>>>>>Food: Average
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Armaments: Plentiful
>>>>>Current Pop: 7
>>>>>Military: 7
>>>>>Fuel: Vertibird Fuel [Limited]
>>>>> Infrastructure: Spring Water Well [Tiny] Drinking Fountains. Vertibird Hangar [Small]. Shielded Armory/Ammunition Room [small] Barracks [small]
>>>>>Defenses: Bunker Front Door [Intact] Steel and Concrete lining [Intact] Automated Steel Bulkhead Doors [Intact] Radar Installation [Intact]
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird
>>>>>>Power: Remnant Bunker Power Cell [Tiny/Long Lasting]
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Trinkets [Tiny]
>>>>>>Weapons: 1 Tri-beam Laser Rifle, 1 Minigun, 1 Assault Carbine, 1 Gatling Laser, 1 Arcade’s Plasma Defender
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional Ammo [Sufficient]. Energy Cells [Sufficient]. Explosives [Sufficient]
>>>>>>Armor: Remnant Power Armor 6. Assorted Enclave Scientist and Officer outfits.
>>>>>>Technology: Enclave Advanced.
Researchers: COURIER, Doc Henry, Arcade
[Research Capability and Assets: Limited/Low]
>>>>>>Other: none
>>>>>>Research Items/Items of Interest: none
>>>>>>Communications: Enclave Radar. Radios.

SO BEGINS TURN 1

>>1428759
Don't our yourself America is a republic (representative democracy)

>>1428771
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>Gets a message out to see if we can't call in or locate other Enclave forces or Followers to start recruiting and luring them in.

>>1428771
>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base
Look into trying to improve the base by excavating moire rooms. We will scavenge and hire for whatever we need, as I assume we have caps

While we do that, we need our researchers to look into ways to increase crop yield, and water purification

>>1428783
>Supporting

Dirty redcoat

>>1428695

I'm all for this, let there be a representative sent from cities and towns to tell what needs to be done for their area of land.

>>1428701

We should figure out the function of our military, I'm all for being like the Assyrian empire and the Mongols to demoralize the enemy with terror tactics and sheer brutality.

For the justice system I'd say this: for minor offenses like petty theft, minor arson and the like they have to perform 48 hours of community service and pay a fine.

For those who've committed heavier crimes like murder, rape and such. They're conscripted to be an advance party in fighting in wars. Utilitarianism.

And for everyone arguing about communism. It's an economic system, we can be a socialist oligarchy, a capitalist autocracy, or communist monarchy to name examples.

>>1428759

Because there were a few here who wanted to suck the dying cock of the Enclave to revive it.

>>1428748

I'm sorry commie, you want to buy some bread? No? Why? Is it because your economy controls everything and you get next to nothing? Excuse my capitalist self eating a fine banquet of burgers and apple pie.

>>1428771

Supporting >>1428783

>>1428783
But why would the Enclave forces come? They have been hunted by the NCR all over and have to be extremely careful not to give their position away

>>1428800
We're using an Enclave only boardcast to meet us somewhere, They're disorganized and might honestly just be laying low until they can get somewhere. Alot of outposts and other places are still working just not talking.

>>1428795
I'm arguing for democracy and some trivial thing called FREEDOM

>>1428812
Alright then that makes a lot more sense. I just hope we are using our turn as best as possible

>>1428822
So am i, I don't know if we can only do one action or two per turn.

>>1428783
Supporting.

>>1428829
I was thinking a research and a main action

>>1428744
That is because corruption is institutionalized within autocratic regimes - the elite are corrupt and the state empowers it.

>>1428898
Well if we also try to model ourselves from the Galactic Empire in Star Wars, they allowed no corruption at all.

>>1428921
They're entire military system was made of gloryhounds and politicians, not military minds. You have to suck up to someone who knows someone if you want to be a starship captain.

>>1428898
Yup

>>1428959
While there was that sort of "nepotism" that you were talking about, you can't say there was NO meritocracy at all

I FORGOT TO MENTION, PLEASE ROLL A 1d100 WITH ALL VOTES/PROPOSITION

Please revote with 1d100

>>1428983
I can say that, because their wasn't.

The main reason the rebs pulled off so many victories in the eu was because of imperial incompetence

Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>1428783

>>1429016
>yeah that was the reason, not because it was a fictional universe with plot running the entire series

Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>1429010

>>1429030
No shit Sherlock, but if you're gone argue about a nerdy fictional universe, I'm going to argue on your level.

>>1429053
I'm not arguing on a lore based level, I am talking about the administrative system

>nerdy fictional universe
Do you know where we are right now?

Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>1429010
>>>>>>B. Try to improve the base
more rooms, more food, more water, whatever.

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>1428783
>>1428771
>>1429010
Support. Find more contacts to help us out with stuff.
Where's the rest of our companions, Boone and the like?

>>1429010
>>1429047
So what are you revoting for, >>1428783?

>>1428921
As I mentioned above, corruption is inherent to autocratic regimes. You need it to bring the elite onside and keep them loyal - the Empire included.

If anyone is ever caught out for 'corruption' it's because they made a political mistake. Modern China is a perfect example of this.

>>1429115
Are you saying their isn't corruption in democracy?

>>1429114
I was rolling for QM to see.

>>1429010
>Please revote with 1d100
>>1429155
Yeah, but I think he wants you to link to what your command is.

>>1428771
my vote here >>1428783 roll here >>1429047

>>1429141
No, but it's way worse in autocracy.

Autocracy isn't efficient in any way.

>>1429185
But it can be with a good leader. Even with a good leader, if congress doesn't want it, we don't get it.

>>1429195
That's never going to happen. First of all, no leader is infallible, and if they make the slightest mistake, they won't rectify it.

Second of all, no man has absolute power, theirs always someone else who influences the play.

Third, the people would in no way accept a man with absolute power. That's foolish.