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>>1438425
Last Turn's Stats

--REMNANT BUNKER--
>>>>>Food: Average
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Morale: Average
>>>>>Armaments: Plentiful
>>>>>Current Pop: 7
>>>>>Military: 7
>>>>>Fuel: Vertibird Fuel [Limited]
>>>>> Infrastructure: Spring Water Well [Tiny] Drinking Fountains. Vertibird Hangar [Small]. Shielded Armory/Ammunition Room [small] Barracks [small]
>>>>>Defenses: Bunker Front Door [Intact] Steel and Concrete lining [Intact] Automated Steel Bulkhead Doors [Intact] Radar Installation [Intact]
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird
>>>>>>Power: Remnant Bunker Power Cell [Tiny/Long Lasting]
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Trinkets [Abundant] Junk Cars [2]
>>>>>>Weapons: 1 Tri-beam Laser Rifle, 1 Minigun, 1 Assault Carbine, 1 Gatling Laser, 1 Arcade’s Plasma Defender
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional Ammo [Sufficient]. Energy Cells [Sufficient]. Explosives [Sufficient]
>>>>>>Armor: Remnant Power Armor 6. Assorted Enclave Scientist and Officer outfits.
>>>>>>Technology: Enclave Advanced.
Researchers: COURIER, Doc Henry, Arcade
[Research Capability and Assets: Limited/Low]
>>>>>>Other: none
>>>>>>Research Items/Items of Interest: none
>>>>>>Communications: Enclave Radar. Radios.

--COTTONWOOD COVE--
>>>>>Food: Above Average (and Falling)
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Morale: High
>>>>>Medicine: Average (and Falling)
>>>>>Armaments: Low
>>>>>Current Pop: 77
>>>>>Military: 7
>>>>>Fuel: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Old World Houses. Tents. Prisoner Pen.
>>>>>Defenses: Wooden Watchtower
>>>>>Vehicles: None
>>>>>>Power: None
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (small) Scrap Wood (tiny)
>>>>>>Weapons: Average Legion Melee Weapons (small, damaged) Average Legion Firearms (small, damaged). Mercenary Battle Rifles (moderate, intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor: Average Leionaire Armor (small, damaged)
>>>>>>Technology: None
[Research Capability and Assets: None]
>>>>>>Other:
+18 Allied Follower Medical Staff
+1 Allied Follower Mk 1 AutoDoc
>>>>>>Research Items/Items of Interest: none
>>>>>>Communications: None

ALERT:
>You have successfully provided enough medication for the intermediate needs to heal the free'd slaves
>You have successfully stemmed starvation for a decent amount of time
>There is still not enough Doctors!
>12 pop have left to seek their lost families. 4 pop have died due to critical injuries and lack of sufficient medical staff

Update Incoming

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Are these Zetans going to have a surplus Giddy-Up-Buttercup calvary charge?

They've been taking space in the cargo holds for a couple centuries and I'm guessing the ship still has its gravity generators functioning since it's sideways but the passengers are still able to put up a fight.

https://youtu.be/cM-Zb3I7WwY

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>>1438455
>MEANWHILE, AT THE FORBIDDEN ZONE
The Sierra Madre. Zion. Big MT. The Divide.

You’ve faced the odds before, you'll face them again here. At least this time you hope to keep all of your gear.

Your Remnant Power Armor, the Stealth Suit MK II, even a Space Suit and Ulysses’ Mask (a copy) in case of intense Rads. Although you’ve adapted to literally sleep it off.

You ensure yourself at least a few hundred super stimpaks, most of your stash (you wish this was the type of medicine Cottonwood cove needed). You never did bother with any of the other chems, sort of annoying to sort and use.

Your two favored weapons, your massive crafted pistol “Big Iron” and the Cosmic Knife.

“Esther” and “Mercy” as your heavy weapons of choice.

Christine’s silenced rifle for some quite sniping detail and delicious sneak critical hits.

The MF Hyperbreeder Alpha Your, old reliable in case you run out of ammo.

All modded to perfection, and several weapon repair kits in your inventory. Not that it matters, you store enough /personal/ ammo and spare armaments to be a one man army. Alas if it were only enough to also supply your new settlement with an actual army. Most of those free’d slaves wouldn’t know how to hold a Gatling Laser, let alone use and maintain one, and you would’t have enough ammo for them all.

You can rightly say that in your life time you’ve faced down an entire army. But. . .admittedly that was piece meal, done over time, in groups. This time you’re facing them, deployed and arrayed and in defensive battle positions and with technology in their favor.

>con't

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>>1438478
Dr. Mobius and his robot scorpions were hard at work while you dealt with the situation at Cottonwood Cove. It used up nearly all of his available resources, so this was your last chance.

Not one but three Giant Robo Scorpions, each with a shield modulator, to bring down the shields. When the aliens blew up one Robo Scorpion and would try to remodulate, the 2nd would move up. And then the third. This gave you time for you and your forces to move in.

At your disposal is primarily robo scorpions (you have some chagrin at this remembering how much they fell in droves against you) but Mobius is providing his entire army. You also have a few robotic forces, some Mr Gutsy’s, Robobrains, protectrons, sentry bots. You do have a few Y-17 trauma override harnesses’ (aka the Zombie Spacemen) with some decent energy weapons and fairly good combat training. This is the bulk of the ragtag forces directly under your control when you assault the ships front door, which isn’t so much a door as a gaping entry wound. Against you are aliens outnumbering you by a factor of at least 2.

You wish you had any number of your companions with you. It seems that no matter how many people you befriend and have walked the breadth and width of the Mojave with over the years, they’re never available on these do or die missions. Boone and that Anti-Material rifle you gave him. Lilly to sneak with greater ease. Arcade to be your energy weapons man. Even your newfound Devil’s Brigade or your other friends like Doc Delilah or Willow and would be a blessing.

Finally the moment was ready. You assemble your forces behind the cover of the crevice’s and hills of Big Mt, out of sight of those deadly ship turrets. Thankfully they were preoccupied with blasting away the swelling waves of chaos that surrounded the vessel, and you hoped when the shields went down that same mass would work in your favor and funnel into the ship rather than slow you down.

You time everything just right, ordering the charge right as Mobius 1st of three giant Robo Scorpions steps up and begins phasing the ships shields. The shields begin to ripple and become transparent again, as the hordes of monsters surrounding it now once again drive headlong into the line of alien and drone defenders. You see their battle line, and pull out Euclid’s C Finder.

You are SO glad you decided to resolve the Helios 1 power issue this way.

>con't

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>>1438488
You aim not at the alien battle lines, but upward, and the projector thing they are using to phase the Radar Fence of Big MT. The wonderful tribeam of targeting lasers concentrates on it, followed by a bright almost blinding glare as the alien projector is destroyed.

Big MT’s Radar fence turns back to its normal color, and you see the throng of creatures trying to escape it stopped once again, burned to cinders and repelled.

Now to stop this alien menace for good.

Your forces hit the alien lines. . .and then the true carnage begins. And it’s not in your favor.

The very first and sensible thing you do is pull out “Big Iron” and using V.A.T.S. target the nearest alien directly shooting at you. But something is different about these aliens. There’s a strange transparent glow, a shimmer around them. Still you aim for the head, and fire off with as much AP as you can throw at it, with [95%] chances to hit.

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

Six shots of 28mm GRA AP rounds from your fully modded gun and the damage you did to the alien was. . . barely enough to bring him down to about 20% of health. And you’ve spent all your AP points.

You manage to injure Alien, where you were hoping for an explosion of guts and gore like always. One hurt alien still alive, out of at least 21 aliens with disintegration aimed and firing at you directly. All of them bearing the weird shield thing around their bodies.

You quickly duck to cover behind a boulder as these strange energy projectiles fly at you, slamming into the big rock and making chunks of it disappear. As you crouch, your pimp boy 3 billion continues to flash a [DANGER] warning, these guys seem to have fantastic perception.

You realize if you yourself could could barely scratch aliens with your powerful weapon, you don’t have to think hard what’s happening to your scorpion army. Huge moutains of robot parts and molten metallic goop begin to pile high, as wave after wave of robo scorpion is blasted away by powerful alien weaponry and destroyed, their laser stringers deflected by aliens personal shields. The only reason such wholescale slaugher hasn’t turned this fight into a route was how much the forces and the monsters of Big MT outnumbered the aliens. It was like watching a meat grinder,

except you realize your side was the meat.

>con't

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>>1438478

Also the FO3 DLC Mothership Zeta Wandering Samurai who got himself transported back to Earth might be carving up the wasteland as an irradiated Ronin.

Might have ghouled out even.

>>1438505
fucking unbalanced Mothership Zeta with their meatwalls, and high damage weapons. We only have massive hitboxes on the Gen V scorpions.

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>>1438505
You also see your window of opportunity literally closing as the aliens begin erecting some kind of bulkhead door to close down on the opening into the vessel. A second big boom in the distance tells you Dr. Mobius is on his last giant robo scorpion.

With speed of desperation, you pull out “Esther” and launch a fat man at the aliens between you and the door. It sends all of them flying off, and does kill some of them, but even as you run the gauntlet of turret fire and flanking fire from nearby aliens you see that some are still left alive.

And a few get back up to block your path and stop you from reaching the doors. It almost looks like you aren’t going to make it. That’s when something small, mechanical, and covered in fur furry leaps up and knock them down, just as you duck and roll under the alien door which closes shut.

The doors slam shut behind you as you recover and see you aren't alone. You look to see Roxie and Rex are staring down at you, tails wagging and tongues lapping over their iron jaws. Around them a few cyberpups eyeing you with curiosity.

You smile. Looks like you are getting two companions for this quest after all. You get up, followed by your following of cyberdogs, and start walking as you begin your mission: to disable the alien vessel from within.

>con't

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>>1438527
ayyyy best dogs

>>1438527

Sic balls Chopper

https://youtu.be/YTZA6SvkuVg

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>MEANWHILE, AT COTTONWOOD COVE

>>1435836
>>Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>[Civ] Contract a caravan group to start making regular stops by Cottonwood.
>>1435918
>You and Sharon discovered that the Van Graffs and Crimson Caravan massacred hers and several other caravans, resulting in their monopoly over the Mojave. As such you reported them to the NCR.
>off course that was Cass, and not us, and we did such good work for Crimson Mclafferty would be willing to hear us out

Rose of Sharon Cassidy delivered damning evidence of the Van Graffs and the Crimson Caravan to the NCR, detailing how both of them ruthlessly hired mercenaries and criminals to murder and sack all other caravans in the Mojave, in an evil bid to monopolize the region to themselves. With irrefutable evidence, combined with the fact that indeed no other major Caravans were being run in the Mojave save the two of them, news spread quickly. Outrage at home and cries for justice but sympthetic citizens brought the issue up to the Supreme Court of the NCR and the NCR Congress.

Over the next few months criminal investigation and charges were brought against the two. Expectedly Mclafferty and Van Graff claimed innocence and put the blame on some "overly ambitious subordinates", escaping punishment themselves.

But things were only going to get worse for the caravans. With support of Congress and public sympathy, President Kimball signed into legislation severe trade laws and restrictions of power on the Carvans. It was something that the NCR had wished to do for decades but the threat of Caravan influence to incite resistance was too great, until now.

As a result the NCR began to grow its power and authority over its internal chains of supply, slowly shrinking the influence of the third party's.

Though you the Courier have played your hand in this, you have also hidden it well. Both Caravans still blame Rose of Sharon but are unawares of your involvement, while you have suggested Rose to lay low in hiding which she is currently doing.

Thanks to your efforts to win relations with both Caravans, and driven by a need to make up for lost profits, each has agreed to divert its caravan routes to Cottonwood cove, providing a crucial source of continuing supply for your settlement.

They expect Cottonwood Cove to be a profitable endeavor, and the caravans must be paid for their supplies. So far you have just enough caps from your own inventory to provide about 5 turns for your village of sustainable food but. . .you don't have near enough wealth to do this forever.

You're going to have to come up with a means of cap income/ goods export for your faction, or risk backlash and withdrawal of the Caravans and negative relations.

>>1438586
We should ask for seeds. With the fresh water right by, we can become a very productive farming community, and then branch out, and maybe dip our fingers into the mines around us

>>1438586
>You're going to have to come up with a means of cap income/ goods export for your faction
Alien weapons, shields, and other technology seem like a good idea.
If that's out of the question, we could always start a big ass farm since Cottonwood is right next to a river.

>>1438586

Is LakeLurk flesh something that's particularly marketable? There are nests all along the river and if processed right they aren't even that radioactive!

Surely we took out Chop Chop and got our hands on the White Glove Society's amazing recipe's as well. Cottonwood Cove as weird fishman processing center?

>>1438598
>>1438601
Any scrap or semblance of industrial equipment would help in either indeavor. That should be priority uno prior in terms of acquisition prior to any base production.

This is the wasteland after all.

>>1438598
Idea! Use the metals in the mines to make guns to sell.
Living the American dream.

>>1438608
What about House tools outside of vegas? That entire place looked like it was running

>>1438607
Industrial equipment is probably a good bet then.
Shit like work tables, reloading benches, industrial lathes, mills, foundry equipment, etc...
>>1438614
We could just raid his basement. Maybe try and sneak some stuff out of fortification hill too.

>>1438622
Well we might as well just raid and destroy the fort. We aren't sneaking anything out of that place. As for House's basement, once again we will just have to wait until we kill him

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HERO STATUS: QUEST

Your primary civ hero is on a major Quest!

This means until the Quest is completed, you do not have access to your usual Hero Action. You will need to rely on your civ and followers, and vote for a Civ action for each turn until your primary hero returns.

Every now and then you will receive prompts and choices as your hero continues his Quest.

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--REMNANT BUNKER--
unchanged >>1438455

--COTTONWOOD COVE--
>>>>>Food: Above Average (Stable - 5 Turns)
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Stable)
>>>>>Medicine: Average (Stable - 5 Turns)
>>>>>Armaments: Low
>>>>>Current Pop: 110
>>>>>Military: 7
>>>>>Fuel: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Old World Houses. Tents. Prisoner Pen.
>>>>>Defenses: Wooden Watchtower
>>>>>Vehicles: None
>>>>>>Power: None
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (small) Scrap Wood (tiny)
>>>>>>Weapons: Average Legion Melee Weapons (small, damaged) Average Legion Firearms (small, damaged). Mercenary Battle Rifles (moderate, intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor: Average Leionaire Armor (small, damaged)
>>>>>>Technology: None
[Research Capability and Assets: None]
>>>>>>Other:
+18 Allied Follower Medical Staff
+1 Allied Follower Mk 1 AutoDoc
+Willow, Doc Mitchel, Doc Delilah
>>>>>>Research Items/Items of Interest: none
>>>>>>Communications: None

ALERT:
>3 pop have died from last turn due to critical injuries and lack of sufficient medical staff
>Morale has dropped due to frustrations and deaths from the lack of additional staff
!Good news! Due to allowing the 12 free'd slaves to go out and find their families, they have all managed to come back and even bring their families to live in Cottonwood Cove. Some of them are from Goodsprings, where word reached Doc Mitchel and Doc Delilah who have both decided to come help with the situation. Willow has also showed up, and is helping by cooking the gecko meat harvested last turn, and helping to raise spirits.
>The medical situation is no longer critical, no new deaths are expected and a full recovery is imminent
>Morale is stabilized and no longer falling

{! Warning !} You are incurring a negative outflow of caps due from your current Caravan Contracts and nonexistent faction infrastructure/industry, which is being withdrawn from your heroes private stocks. These are ultimately limited and require time + actions to replenish.

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 8

>>>>>Reputation level: Noble Anti-Slavers / "Enclave return?"

>>1438628
It's probably gonna be super easy to kill House.
He's somehow dumb enough to let us walk up to him chamber doors in full gear.
His access terminal isn't even hidden. Anybody with enough tech skill and sufficient firepower could take him out.

>>1438622
Anything that we do find can be stored or used for any pure manufacturing, or repurposed for agriculture, mining, etc. Enough spare industrial capital can kick start both a stage 1 and 2 economy lickety split.

>>1438634
>>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
We will try to improve cottonwood cove by planting farms there and using basic irrigation techniques. Tell the caravans that we will sell our extra food below market price of they go easy on us with the cap debts

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>1438634
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>[CIV] Gather seeds and prepare a field for growing crops.
We need food first, then industrial equipment

Rolled 9 (1d100)

>>1438644

>>1438634
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
Send a good amount of able bodied people to locate and transport industrial equipment of any kind in the immediate vicinity back to cottonwood cove. Wether it be half finished, scrap, or fully completed.

Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>1438644
Changing to this since it's the same thing but significantly better

Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>1438634
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
Improve cottonwood by creating farms.

Rolled 9 (1d100)

>>1438634
improve cotton wood somehow.

Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>1438634
Forgot to roll

>>1438637

That big casino of his might also double as an orbital antennae and the space battle that caused the Zetans to crash into Big Mt may very well provoke the Mr House's paranoia.

>>1438651
1 - Scavenge for Industrial Equipment

>>1438644
>>1438645
>>1438653
>>1438656
4 - Improve Cottonwood Cove (Farms) [LOCKED]

>Writing

>>1438665
What roll did you use?

>>1438668
I think he used the 85

>>1438668
Best of 3 unless crits, >>1438653 was it.

>>1438645
>>1438649
>>1438652

>>1438677
Well shit, we might have to spend a few turns on the farms

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>1438634
>>1438644
>>1438645
Support.

>1d100

>>1438681
Or get bonuses from scavenging auto plows and seed processing equipment, maby some construction equipment might help with the irrigation system. Ya know.

>>1438693
We would not know where any of that stuff is. Unless it's sealed in some vault somewhere, it's either going to be broken beyond repair or used by someone else

>>1438693
A few dozen hard working Americans with shovels and picks can work miracles, but yeah actual construction equipment would help.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Coyote_Mines

Mine really close to us

>>1438703
Well securing that would probably be a good idea once we get the farm up and stop people from dying at the drop of a hat.

>>1438703
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Searchlight_North_gold_mine

this one too

>>1438698
Theres piles of shit everywhere in the game. Its probably largely low quality garbage, but think about it this way, the servos in several sewing machines can be torn out, linked with detenator or air pump, wired or pressured in a way to function with the pumping action, then add steel chiseling bits to the ends of the servos and whalla. You have a fucking jackhammer powered by a pump.

Seriously.>>1438700

>>1438710
We would need to get Raul, maybe Loyal from Nellis, and anyone else who is good with a machine, but it's possible

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>>1438652
Several issues come with an attempt to establish farms.

First and foremost is the quality of the land around Cottonwood cove. Much of it is dry clay or sand ill suited to sustain plant life, with only some areas viable soil.

Secondly is the source of water itself, the River, is plagued with mirelurks and dangerous creatures that frighten some of your pop and pose a risk to those who go near the water.

These two issues might have made Cottonwood cove a farming nightmare, but the Courier chose his allies well.

The Followers expertise at agriculture, and the familiarity with farming life of Willow, Delilah, and Doc Mitchel come to a major advantage. To deal with the soil, they begin using buckets and shovels to dig up silt from the river bed, which is rich in deposited minerals and some nutrients. In addition, they make sure to gather some of the Brahmin droppings from the caravans as manure.

The Mire Lurk's are kept at bay by the Vertibird and the power armored Devil's Brigade. Daisy parks the bird along the coast and scares the creatures away with a short burst of gunfire, while the old soldiers protect the Followers and your pop as they harvest water and silt from the river.

With a little help from Goodsprings and Old Mormont Fort, a bit more fertile soil is brought in along with some fast growing crops such as Spinach, Carrots, Peas, and Radish which should be edible in a month or so.

Despite the hardships of the area, your assets and allies help to pull through, with some limited success. It's not enough yet to make Cottonwood Cove entire self sufficient without trade, but it does decrease some of the food cost and lengthens the amount of time you have to come up with additional income.

>>1438714
I think bringing Raul over would be...conflicting.
On one hand, he's great help with machines and having him around would give us a better chance at getting cooperation from the ghoul community,.
On other hand 80% of the Mojave only have experience with feral ghouls, which may spoil our image somewhat.

>>1438723
Also our magnificent 7 probably won't all be hyped about the ghoul. Most would be fine, but i think some would be against it.

>>1438714
I dont understand why we cant do it now though, a long discarded power hammer body from a foundry or steel mill could be set up in a god damn pulley system in 2 hours tops with the amount of people we have.

>>1438726
Yeah.
We're gonna have to deal with conflicting views on mutants at some point.
I'd just rather that be when our only settlement is stable and when our biggest cache of super-tech isn't being invaded by aliens.

>>1438727
Industrial equipment provides much better in the long term if we have technicians to maintain said equipment.
Raul could probably help with upkeep on machines and teach the settlers how to keep shit from breaking.

>>1438734
Aren't the magnificent 7 also technicians? They're not as good as Raul but they maintain their own equipment so they must know a little about industrial equipment.

--REMNANT BUNKER--
unchanged >>1438455

--COTTONWOOD COVE--
>>>>>Food: Above Average (Stable - 7 Turns)
>>>>>Water: Average
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Stable)
>>>>>Medicine: Average (Stable - 7 Turns)
>>>>>Armaments: Low
>>>>>Current Pop: 110
>>>>>Military: 7
>>>>>Fuel: None
NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Old World Houses. Tents. Prisoner Pen. Barebones Garden Farms (Medium, Primitive). Bucket Irrigation.
>>>>>Defenses: Wooden Watchtower
>>>>>Vehicles: None
>>>>>>Power: None
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (small) Scrap Wood (tiny)
>>>>>>Weapons: Average Legion Melee Weapons (small, damaged) Average Legion Firearms (small, damaged). Mercenary Battle Rifles (moderate, intact)
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor: Average Leionaire Armor (small, damaged)
NEW!
>>>>>>Technology: River Silt Fertilizer. Manure.
[Research Capability and Assets: None]
>>>>>>Other:
+18 Allied Follower Medical Staff
+1 Allied Follower Mk 1 AutoDoc
+Willow, Doc Mitchel, Doc Delilah
>>>>>>Research Items/Items of Interest: none
>>>>>>Communications: None

ALERT:
>Primitive Farms have been established, there is room to upgrade them currently
>You have created a small food income, decreasing your reliance on the caravan and prolonging the amount of time you have to come up with a suitable income. however the Caravans themselves sell food, and do not buy food.

Remember that at any time you may posed a question to your companions as free dialogue.

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 9

>>1438741
I think it varies. Some are grunts, some are techies, and some are in between. Cannibal Johnson doesn't seem like the sort to know how to fix more than his gun and his armour, which is different from industrial equipment.

Rolled 83 (1d100)

>>1438746
>Secure the mines

Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>1438746
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>[CIV] Scavenge for industrial and construction equipment from the nearby mines. Stuff like machinery, parts, hand tools, and dynamite.

Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>1438751
This.

>>1438719
Fixing the mirelurk and land problem:
>fashion a horizontal grid scaffoling out of I beams with some weilding equipment
>fashion nets of barbed wire
>create solid foundation work at the shore using stone blocks and available scrap metal
>weild the scaffolding to the shore foindations
>place barbed wire nets on the outside I beams
>rienforce every junction when biulding out with a sufficient pillar
>use old bath tubs and containers to fill in the grid, hold it together with discarded steel cable
>place reclemated top soil in tubs
>add a filtration system
Done. Mabye some things are out of order but whatever.

>>1438746
>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
In terms of priority
>fully functional industrial capital
>partially functional industrial capital
>working and interchangable parts
>scrap

Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>1438746
buy some brahmin and secure the surrounding mines

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>1438756
Forgot to roooooolll

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>1438644
>>1438645
yeah sure

>>1438723
Tolerance of Ghouls in the Mojave varies.

The NCR is steeped in its egalitarian ideals, and often you will see female and ghoul soldiers among their ranks and even officers. Intelligent ghouls who are NCR citizens are legally protected by law.

This is aided by how stable and orderly the NCR central territories are, being able to more easily deal with feral ghouls and maintain order.

Those native to the Mojave rarely see intelligent ghouls and primarily associate with the feral type and are less receptive.

This has caused a clash in many cases.

Your character suspects the Legion tolerates no Ghouls at all save those who perhaps have stood out to Caesar himself and proven exceptionally useful.

In general the Followers of the Apocalypse and Arcade are open to them. Of the Devil's brigade it varies between non-caring to disapproval with Moreno who says "America should strive to be pure"

Is the last thread archived?

>>1438767
Good thing you can't fuck a ghoul and make more.

>>1438769
No, i would appreciate someone starting a SupTG otherwise I will rely on archived.moe

>>1438767
Well Moreno can eat a dick.
A citizen is a citizen, whether or not they have skin or if they're a hulking beast.
It's not like they're gonna spread or anything. All the mutants are effectively sterile.

>>1438771
I'll do it but i don't have any ideas for the TAGS, do you have any you want in?

>>1438776
Fallout, Civ, Courier, New Vegas perhaps

>>1438776
Enclave, America, Freedom, USA

>>1438751
Support

>>1438773
I disagree, Ghouls can turn feral which is a public danger, while they can be citizens their condition should not be treated as normal or insignificant.

Never forget Tenpenny Tower

>>1438751
>>1438789
>>1438754
3 - Secure the mines (Searchlight East/Other?)

>>1438753
>>1438756
2 - Scavenge for industrial and/or construction equipment from the nearby mines (Searchlight East/Other?)

>>1438757
1 - buy some brahmin + secure the surrounding mines

Current tally. Locking on >Secure the Mines soon unless mistakes/further votes made.

>>1438780
I'm drawing a blank on the description, what do you want me to type?

>>1438793
I'm not saying they don't have special conditions which require special protocols, but I don't see why they can't be a part of a productive society.
They just need a lot of supervision.

>>1438797
Brief descriptions are good for the first one, something like "Fallout Civ Quest, the Courier sets out to establish his own nation from American ideals."

>>1438799
Yeah, they're sick, and should be treated as such. Like if they have cancer of the everything

>>1438799
Kinda felt like you did with
>A citizen is a citizen, whether or not they have skin or if they're a hulking beast.
But i agree that they can be part of society.

>buy some brahmin + secure the surrounding mines
Thats actually a superb Idea. Though getting brahmin from caravans would not be optimal. Taking some overpopulated brahmin off of a large pasture in exchange for some unwanted good would be the best bet though. The caravans would charge us an arm and a leg for on demand brahmin in comparison.

We need to get a badass playlist for Black Mountain.
Broadcasting our message was a very good idea, but the people need something else to keep them on the station.

>>1438802
How about
>The Courier becomes a true Patriot and frees some Legion slaves for America, also Big MT is invaded by aliens.

>>1438809
Add that somewhere certainly, but don't forget to also detail the quest itself.

>>1438797
"The Courier dies drowning in pussy for America. Also aliens."

>>1438808
We need to acquire about 20 school children and record them singing "America the Beautiful" for that real people coming together feel.

>>1438814
Good suggestion.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BL4RNFr58 could also work well.

>>1438812
>Fallout Civ Quest, The Courier becomes a true Patriot and frees some Legion slaves for America, also Big MT is invaded by aliens.
How's this?

>>1438818
nice

Economics refresher: caps could technically be considered hard currency right?

>>1438818
Also this is good

>>1438818
>Fallout Civ Quest. The Courier sets out to establish his own nation, and becomes a true Patriot and frees some Legion slaves for America, also Big MT is invaded by aliens.

>>1438824
I guess Caps could work, but somewhere along the line we need to make a currency that we control and hopefully be backed by some gold.
But caps definitely work for now, and it's a lot easier on our citizens too.

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>>1438824
Somewhat yes. Caps are the most reliable and stable, but are not the only currency in the Mojave.

The NCR created its own Dollar, and backed it with gold stored deep within a fort. With this their economy prospered, and for a time the NCR Dollar was replacing the bottlecap, but the gold was blown up by the BoS during the NCR BoS war. The bottlecap resumed its supremacy as the mainline currency in the wasteland, however the NCR Dollar is recovering and gaining heft as the NCR industry continues to grow.

The Legion uses silver Denarius and gold Aureus within their borders as currency although they too deal with others mostly with the bottle-cap. However they fix their exchange rate personally and very few people try to argue with the Legion.

>>1438827
Over 140 letters i think, doesn't let me type beyond "also"
I'll just use mine if you don't mind >>1438818

>>1438834
Go ahead. Its been years since I posted on SupTg so I've forgotten those kind of limits.

>>1438828
>>1438833
Im all in for a goldstandard. But when it comes to the credit and the banks and shit. Whew lad. Thats some Orwellian tier shit. Gold standard is probably the best stability/growth compromise we can make. Nowadays with the artificial interest rates enforced by the fed it seems like one of those conspiracy theories my dude. Cant wait for the greatest deppression.

>>1438751
>>1438789
>>1438754
3 - Secure the mines (Searchlight East/Other?) [LOCKED]

Writing

its very late here and I may be able to churn out a few more turns, tomorrow I have work again.

>>1438842
First thing we need is gold though, which we don't have. Assuming we're not cheating cheaters who abuse the game, we have max 2 or 3 bars of gold.

>>1438842
Also I just remembered
>all the lost gold from last thread
Made me cringe.

>>1438828
>>1438833
>>1438842
i'd personally like to keep the Caps currency.
BTW first thread is now archived.

>>1438853
If we can find a way to control Caps sure.
But we're gonna have to stick to Caps for a while anyways. We have no currency we can control or a way to back it.

>>1438853
Neat

Thing is with the cap economy, it can be completely fabricated and inflated. Easily. Granted the effects would take a while at first, but if someone punches bottle caps from scrap, they get obscenely rich while everyone else gets gradually poorer.

>>1438859
Exactly

>>1438859
We could just limit Caps currency to old world caps, Maybe make some special engravings on the bottom?

>>1438863
obviously its not that easy or someone would do it. The wasteland as a whole seems on top of keeping away rampant inflation and counterfitting. There was the whole Crimson Caravan mission to stop the counterfitter press.

>>1438863
From Fallout New Vegas contrary to popular belief Bottlecaps are not used as currency because they are "irreplaceable" but primarily due to convenience.

The most powerful businesses and government reserves control access to the rare bottle-cap presses which they use to replace worn down bottlecaps and return it into circulation. Generally speaking they do not engage in inflation and counterfeiting and actively fight it, because even they realize that everyone loses hard when you crash the economy including themselves.

The Courier fulfilled a mission from McLafferty to destroy an illegal/unlicensed bottle-cap press used by criminals to churn out bottlecaps.

>>1438869
>>1438871
Hmm
Bottle caps it is I guess
These post apocalyptic wonder boys got it down to a science

>>1438869
>>1438871
>>1438876
And they should, one of final stages of Old World lore was ridiculous levels of inflation shortly before the apocalypse happened.

>>1438871
>destory
I never did that mission. Time to start over.

>>1438881
What, like Zimbabwe levels?

>>1438883
Pretty much. If I recall, there are some images that can be found both in the other games and Fallout 4 where it costs $100+ for some gas and $150+ for a simple toy.

>>1438888
>$100+ for some gas
I might actually shoot myself or just fuck off into the wilderness. If America didn't get nuked, it would have turned into a macro-Brazil.

>>1438891
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/United_States

Also ignore 'muh morality!' the world was going to shit.

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>>1438891
>>1438892
Yep. Keep in mind, America was still one of-

>>1438894
Oh dear lord, it's even worse than I remebered!

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>>1438898
>>1438894
Never forget the chinks caused the New plague.

And that F4 and F3 are illeglement games with only New Vegas being proper canon.

>>1438902
Considering how Fallout heavily bases itself on world building, character interaction and good storytelling, yeah 3 and 4 are illegitimate.
I would actively tell anybody new to the series to skip 3 and 4.

>>1438909
I hope we can get Fussion reactor production back at some point. God knows we could then have unlimited power. Or everybody gets Power Armor as a right of passage.

>>1438913
Can't we technically use Microfusion Breeders as power sources?
Like getting a whole bunch and wiring them into a big ass power source.

>>1438921
Possibly, Not sure how effective or rare microfusion breeders are.

Sory folks, I have to crash, will be on tomorrow though after work.

Feel free to discuss or ask me questions I'll respond to them and any dialogue later.

>>1438923
It's cool man. Thanks for running.

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So our main priorities with Cottonwood are
>Securing the adjacent mining facilities
>Establishing stable irrigation for agriculture
>Procuring additional industrial equipment for construction and manufacturing
>Finding an abundant source of raw materials
>Bolstering available medical facilities
>Improving fortifications around the settlement
>Procuring additional arms and armor
Anything else I'm missing?

Also we still need to get a playlist for the radio station.
I'm not sure if the QM cares if the songs are period accurate or not, but any suitably American tracks would be appreciated.

>>1439070
Don't forget

>Nuke NCR and the Legion

>>1439101
>nuke
Thats the last resort
Subterfuge and assimilation is the best option by far.

>>1439105
lonesome road. Those nukes just gonna fly any no one knows. If we want, it could be an option of last resort. nuke the NCR capital from there.

>>1439107
Or dissasemble them and refurbish the parts to work in a nuclear generator.

>>1438909
3 wasn't that bad...

>>1439113
Shouldnt we have helios one for our power needs?

>>1439117
Moooooore
POWAAAAAAR

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Hopefully as the Courier one of our advisors or even our experiences as a rootless murder hobo will have taught us that the Old World's manufacturing processes were generally unsustainable.

Sure the old America made magical tech that lasts 200+ years and preservatives for industrial food that persist just as long.

However without coherent recycling and a better means of getting energy and fuel we're going to hit the same limits that led to the Resource Wars and the first collapse.

Obviously wastelanders have got the recycling part down having to scavenge for scrap in the Old World's corpse as a daily part of existence for a significant part of the population.

It's boot strapping the miraculous tech from the Sierra Madre and Helios One that haqs the greatest potential. The Think Tank and Dr.Mobius while useful allies are still limited by being transhuman jar critters that have lost touch with the common man.

As compared to our Brainless cybered up chassis of the People.

>>1439121

We have nothing better to go on with now though.

A better society model will take R&D and advanced research facilities to bring to fruition and we don't even have the capability to produce a blackpowder gun, let alone a 3mm caseless gatling gun.

Copy the old world tech and adapt to our own use until we are large and stable. Then work on making it better.

>>1439144
INDUSTRIAL CAPITAL

Come on mates

Do you think we should ask our brain for advice?
It's been mentioned as being twice smarter than us.

>>1439161
Good point. Looking into that would save us some hassle.

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posting from phone

QUEST:
The narrow hallways and closed spaces favor you much better, keeping the Alien numbers funneled into close quarters makes them excellent group targets and limiting the amount of fire they can throw at you.

However the shield aliens are still deadly. Their shields give them a powerful defensive edge, able to take far more damage than your power armor and they dish out shot after shot with that disintegrator rifle of theirs, making you pour stimpaks into your veins.

You always target them first. The most effective strategy is to attempt to sneak up on them, and then quickly take out "Big Iron" or a sniper rifle to pick the weapon out of their hand with a Sneak Critical. You have to move quick to grab before they can run over and pick them up (the fuckers are fast).

Denying them of their weapon they are virtually powerless, they're crap melee fighters. You have Roxie and Rex tie them up in melee while you grind down their shields using the MF Hyperbreeder Alpha. What's also effective seems to be lighting them on fire or using the Arc Welder, their shields don't stop Fire or Electricity.

The aliens eat some kind of worm food which is plentiful, helping you save up the rations you've brought. They also use some kind of bio-gel as medicine, its not as effective as Stim-Paks and comes with some side effects.
You meander past room after room on the vessel, seeing many strange sights.

You eventually reach a junction leading two three separate areas, and you decide which way to go:
CHOOSE:
>Some kind of treasure room! Your eyes widen as you see something you've never dreamed of. Intact Pre-War equipment, cars, trucks, planes, tanks and row upon row of advanced technology!
>A circular room with a light shining in the center, surrounded by large empty glass tubes
>A cryostasis room. There are many different sizes and shapes here, holding creatures of all sorts. Many are familiar, like Ghouls, Super Mutants, and Brahmin. . .others are things you haven't seen before. You suspect there might be humans among them too.

Roll me a 1d100 with your choice

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>1439183
>Some kind of treasure room! Your eyes widen as you see something you've never dreamed of. Intact Pre-War equipment, cars, trucks, planes, tanks and row upon row of advanced technology!


Oh shit. Looks like we just found our D-6 motherfuckers!

>>1439191
Dammit!

Rolled 3 (1d100)

>>1439183
>Some kind of treasure room! Your eyes widen as you see something you've never dreamed of. Intact Pre-War equipment, cars, trucks, planes, tanks and row upon row of advanced technology!

Imma save ya

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>>1439183

Cryostasis means more potential allies or at least mobile distractions for those Zetans to worry about.

>>1439198
>3
Just fuck my shit up senpai

>>1439200
True but Prewar tech is incredibly rare and valuable.


We are talking, with your roll, at least a few dozen armoured vehicles and industrial devices. Possibly even some mining gear.


Speaking of which. I thought of something rather important in the NV area for us to secure: a semi-functional steel foundry. Do anon's want to discuss this?

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>>1439204
Got a location in mind - I do think that we might be jumping the gun with the desire to build an industrial base though.

Not only do factories require power, they also require defence, an uninterrupted stream of raw materials and a large workforce. We should probably focus on building a mining / agriculture bad first and just recruiting new citizens en mass.

Freeing legion slaves world probably be the easiest way to go.

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Dumping images for OP to use as well.

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>>1439191
>17
You enter the treasure room, and feel like a child that just found a whole crate of candy.

Cars! You turn the keys on them and they hum to life with nuclear energy, you press on the wheel and they honk. oh how you can't wait to learn how to drive them!

Other useful vehicles, trucks, bulldozers, cranes and even stranger things that you can only guess what their purpose is for.

Attack vehicles of every shape and variety. Pre-War American tanks, jeeps with machine guns, artillery vehicles that carry guns like the boomers have. You even see Chinese vehicles.

Planes and flight craft of all sorts, jet craft, a Repcon missile, Vertibirds all shiny and new.

Then of the appliances. Everything you've ever seen rusted and defunct exploring old world buildings, here pristine,intact, and fuctional. Machines that wash dishes, cook a fresh plate of eggs, clean and dry press your clothes.

There's an assortment of Pre-War toys that work, flying planes, toy trains, little childrens books. . .and then, oddly enough, something you've seen on a poster.

A toy horse, large enough for a child to ride, one of those "Giddyup Buttercups". But this one isn't with the other toys, its separated in a corner of the room behind some windows and doors.

Curious you enter the room and look the toy over, finding a simple on switch. The horse toy whirrs and comes to life, and you hear it start to play music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiTKteYvy2Y

It begins to move and prance around, you guys Old World horses walked like that, making horse sounds as its feet "clop" on the floor. It's a neat little toy. The music stops and so does the horse. Before you can leave the room, you see the horse silently turn its head and look at you. For some reason, you feel wrong. Your mind trained for danger in the wasteland starts blaring warning bells but you can't understand why. You crouch down to take a closer look at the horse. It's then your power armor sneaking interface activates, and you see it put something in front of your vision: [DANGER]. You turn around expecting to be ambushed by aliens, you don't see the rest of the toy quietly turn its body to face you.

TO BE CONTINUED

>>1439211
No problem. This is the place I have in mind: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/New_Vegas_Steel

This place, based off of the game, still has power and functional equipment. If we can supply ore and such, then we can produce steel and other metals in theory.


As to needing to defend it, we have 70 odd ex-slaves and we will free more. If we have twenty defend and work the steel plant we can be certain that it will be safe-ish.

I do agree mining and agriculture especially is needed first but this is just something I wanted to make sure we all knew about. This can easily be achieved and I can say with great certainty we can increase our strength of numbers by recruiting from the various towns, gangs and tribes of the world along with freeing slaves. It would also be wise for us to create some defences for the cove like concrete or brick firehouses supported by tunnels or trenches to a central command, ammo stock and medical centre


Also this is another good objective: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/H%26H_Tools_Factory

However I would argue we should try and disassemble this place and either move it to the steel plant or to Cottonwood cove.

>>1439222
Oh fucking aliens made this into a battle bot didn't they?

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>>1439223
Sounds like a good plan!

>>1439222

Battle Buttercup?

And hot damn that loot!

You mean that loot that will inevitably be destroyed by the upcoming battle?

>>1439230
If you want I can expand on defensive strategy and what we can and can't do. What weapons we can realistically train our population with and such.


>>1439249
Only if we roll badly or can't run out of here fast enough...so possibly.

>>1439223
This is a good plan for the future mixing with what I said earlier too. We do need a lot more people and stable agriculture first.

I also have a bunch of things for establishing industrial economies and such, from when I was going to write some Greentext / Fan fiction on another board.

Anyhow, I know of methodologies for the creation of concrete / cement that sets underwater, the Haber process (creates ammonia for plants / farming), modern road design and a limited understanding of the Bessemer process.

So, you know, I can state with some certainty how to do this shit. We do this every other quest so it shouldn't be too hard.

>>1439287
Well it's not the issue of how, but when the time is right. We need to make the cove self sustaining, take over the nearby mines, and branch out to make our own caravans and start recruiting towns.

>>1439307

Also depending on if we've culled them there still might be Boomer, Vipers and most dangerously Fiends dicking around our potential trading lines.

I'm wondering how we avoid becoming the NCR when it comes to establishing Rule Of Law and allowing communities to retain their independence.

>>1439222

I fucking KNEW it! Beware the abominable equine.

https://youtu.be/CBomQh0np6w

>>1439314
We can deal with the raiders the way the legion does. A lot of people say how safe their supply lines are

>>1439307
That will be easy to do so long as our rolls hold for now.


>>1439314
Simple: we do to raiders what we did to the Legion until either they turn themselves in, settle down as farmers or die. The Legion method of regional pacification works wonders.

As to how we avoid becoming the NCR, we have exponential tax rates, so the rich are less powerful.

We also need to avoid allowing lobbying as much as possible. Since that causes huge problems for the NCR.

It would also help if we say that super-mutants and such are fine. Seeing as we all understand what we would use them for.

There are other things but you get the idea.


>>1439320
It's the method humans used for thousands of years.

>>1439327
Making more supermutants is terrible but letting the ones stay alive until they all die off is fine

As for the government, we will have to have a thread long discussion on how to structure our Senate and what our system acrually is going to be

>>1439331
I know more supermutants would be somewhat bad but we can't make more. So the fundamental problem is do we abuse them or make use of them?

>>1439347
Well we COULD but let's not think about it. As for what to do, they could be our construction machines. We are allied with Jamestown

>>1439349
They also are entirely resistant to radiation, so they can defend and work in and around irradiated areas.

>>1439366
They would need to be properly paid and supported. It could be easily done.

So how much you wanna bet we're gonna deal with a wannabe Master who has access to FEV down the line?

>>1439366
>>1439368
Honestly, We could have them live and work in the radation zones and pay them in proper building stuff.

>>1439381
I mean so long as they aren't eating people and breaking shit, I have no problem with them being an active part in the community.

>>1439381
We could call it the SMCS Project.
SMCS meaning Super Mutant Civil Service.

>>1439387
>Tfw Super Mutants repent by helping build a better tommorrow, Today.

>>1439389
We truly are America now

>>1439395
But we don't have slums, massive military corruption, massive military corruption, an obsession with our ex-presidents, a suppressed civil war movement, a obesity epidemic, a corrupt education system or shit internet from Comcast.

>>1439417
Well having strict standards and actually holding people to those standards would help us a lot.

>>1439417
Blow it out your ass.

>>1439417
I think you meant to list massive government corruption instead of military corruption twice.

>>1439417
Shit I put military corruption twice...


>>1439421
Oh yeah, that would certainly help. Luckily we have the training methods of the Enclave to make up for our lack of equipment, numbers, time, resources, intel and such.

>>1439424
Oh please my nation has about 4 of those problems and a few you don't have. Like semi-active rebel organisations.

Seriously, fuck the god damn Irish. That is our clay and has been for literally hundreds of years.

>>1439432
Yeah, I was going for that.

>>1439434
You a bong?

>>1439439
Scottish.

>>1439449
Oh. Yeah, you guys are cool. Sorry about your problems with the Irish though.

>>1439434
Yeah but I fail to see how we have massive military corruption, slums are everywhere on all nations , I don't understand what you mean with an obsession with ex presidents, and my internet is good because I pay firbgood internet. America isnt perfect, but you're looking at the wrong problems. Also, people are not at the civil war level yet

>>1439454
No problem with the Irish. They are a great people. The problem is they have a problem with us (meaning the British government). Not even all Irish just those who support the IRA and think that NI should belong to the Republic of Ireland.

>>1439462
Well I guess rebels and terrorists never really do think about the effects of their actions on the public.
I can sorta sympathize with them about the British government, but it just seems like IRA does nothing but horrid and cowardly shit.

>>1439462
>>1439468
>Tfw your political party betrays you and forces the military parts to break down into infighting and no real idea what to do so they do everything they can.

>>1439461
The massive military corruption is just a thing all nations at peace succumb to. You Americans haven't been in a "real" war that pressured your nations resources and such for awhile so your nations military can afford wasteful projects and inefficiencies. They also have the budget to match that though so it doesn't cause many problems. Generally your military also suffers from the fact that they want to give contracts to certain companies, even if in theory they could get a product from somewhere else for a slightly better deal. Also, you have that whole lower standards for women thing, that is kinda corruption of a political kind.

The slums are in every nation true but the fact is you have entire cultures that have developed in these slums. Also they have insane crime rates and shit.

As to your nation's obsession with presidents, I mean like you having a museum of presidents in the Disney park in Florida. I mean, it is a great show and I enjoyed it but still. We have nothing of the sort in the UK because the only prime minister who is near universally liked is Churchill and even he has his enemies, seeing as he caused gallipoli and shit.

As to your internet being good, fair enough it just seems the only stories we get are about your internet generally being shit cause Comcast won't bother to fit fibre optics and such.

As to my civil war comment, I was more so talking about the whole of the south calling the 1st american civil war, the "war of northern aggression" rather than your current political climate where Antifa may decide to go further than intercepting riots and such.


>>1439468
Oh aye, I mean the IRA had it's point but the fact is that at this point it is doing more harm to the Irish than good.

>>1439476
The south is just butthurt that they decided to fight an enemy 3 times their size and try to make up for a lack industry with failed support from foreign nations. Don't take anything they have to say about the war seriously.
Also the hall of presidents isn't even a particularly popular attraction at Disney. It's got more historical value than anything and even then it's still incredibly dated and bias in a lot of its info.
Also Comcast could totally do fiber optic, but they make a lot more money for a lot less work with their current system.

>>1439490
The confederacy is only good for one thing nowadays, the proper difficulty setting in every civil war game.

>>1439490
I totally understand in all those cases except for the hall of presidents. When I was there it was very busy and it seemed quite lovely in all honesty. Very patriotic, even got to me a little.

>>1439509
It's been a while since I took my family to Disney, but in the end I don't think one attraction in a theme park constitutes a national obsession.
Our tendency to constantly compare leaders, past and present, with no regard to the circumstances of their tenures might be obsessive though.

>>1439514
Thats a good point.
In all honesty I do think the dixies were pretty cool. Aside from all the damn racism and slaves. They upheld their right to secede and fought what they stood for however stupid the endeavor. Romantic really.

>>1439519
I'm fine with the South honestly.
My only real problems with them are the eternal butthurt over the war, the enduring racism, the rampant sexual indecency, and constant drug problems.
Not that other parts of the country don't have some of those problems, but the south has those in spades in their backwoods.
Still love the music and the food though. ANd the hog hunting.

>>1439529
The south reminds me of north England. Essentially everything is very grim but unlike north England they have interesting food, music, traditions and ideas.

>>1439534
It's certainly got a type of antiquated charm you just won't find in most other parts of the country, they just have a huge chip on their shoulders.

>>1439476
Well if that's what you mean by military corruption, then I guess every first world nation has it. It's a shame because we COULD save so much money by having actual competition over contracts. I agree with the lower standards for women, but I can't think of a good alternative.

The slum culture is unfortunate, but it mostly just resolves around the black community.

We love some of our presidents that we see as good leaders. George Washington of course, FDR, Lincoln, Reagan, JFK. Maybe it's just an American thing.

As for the south, they're just sore losers. I didn't mean to sound rude or agressive, I was just wondering how you figured it.

We might have to loom towards Sloan if we want building materials. I know that it is established that the NCR uses it regularly.

>>1439614
We could certainly use all that concrete. I just don't know if we have the funds to buy them out of their NCR contract.
The only real edge we have over the NCR is the fact that we cleared up the Deathclaw infestation while the NCR did fuck all to help cuz "the legion has been encroaching on our territory"

>>1439622
Well this would be after the NCR pulled out. We could make a deal with the workers there, as they have the expertise and we have the protection and money

>>1439556
Oh yeah, the problem is that most companies have went bust so even major powers only have two or three different suppliers, who often agree to not drop their prices beyond a certain point.

As to the women's standards, how about letting them do the same as men and if they pass, they pass? Even then I'd keep them in separate squads / divisions / regiments for political, social and sexual reasons, in the case of that last one, negate if they all are automatically given the implant to stop them getting pregnant.


The slum thing is a serious problem with no real solution, besides the obvious one of mass immolation.


Oh we Brits love some of our leaders too, again Winston Churchill comes to mind but also miss Thatcher. The fact is though that far less power is given to the Prime minister so we hear less about them and less good / bad comes from them.

Admittedly we also lack that whole atmosphere about elections you guys have, seeing as it's just another thing to keep the country ticking along as we want it.


I understand you didn't mean to sound rude or aggressive and feel this has been a good exchange.

>>1439628
It's nice talking about our respective countries without throwing a piss fit, isn't it?
Why can't the actual political and international boards have a decent exchange nowadays?

>>1439627
I figure we might as well clear out the quarry after we wreck everybody's shit at the Hoover Dam then.
NCR a shit.

>>1439628
With the whole "females in the army" is tough because biologically women are weaker than men. We could put them in administrative roles, but you get constant "sexual harassment". We either weaken the integrity of the military, or make it unfair for the males of the population.

I guess we could compare our love of the presidents to the Brit's love of the royalty.

>>1439642
I know that my plan was to attack every NCR and legion position in the mojave during the battle, but there was one or two people that didn't like that.

>>1439650
Women are pretty decent for support and alternative roles honestly.
Regular infantry shit just doesn't fit them very well.
They have problems with everything from duress under fire, lodgings, and hygiene standards.
They do a lot better as nurses, spies, snipers, explosive technicians, etc...just not grunts.

>>1439674
>better as snipers
No, They fucking don't. When the wash out rate for them with men is high as hell. There is no way women do better as snipers unless you're Russia in-which case you're women are men and your men are dead.

>>1439680
Whatever the case, at least we agree they aren't really cut out for infantry work.

>>1439680
kek
I agree. If women prove competent in support roles, I have no reason why they woulndn;t be accepted.
>>1439690
Agreed

>>1439690
They really don't, However with the fact 100% of the surface folks in Fallout have been exposed to radiated FEV seems to have possible closed the gap to some fashion.

>>1439700
Nither do I, I just don't like the idea of women in any front-line or likely to be attacked role. A man will be shot, a woman becomes a play thing.

>>1439635
Oh yeah, it's a nice change from /pol/ where mentioning you are from the UK results in being called Mohammed and asked how many refugees live in your house. It's gotten better since Brexit mind you since we gained a bit of respect, not to mention the whole thing with Shia le bouf...


>>1439642
We could try and clear the quarry from the air, thus avoiding more or less all the danger. Also even if we clear it we still need a source of good clay to make good concrete or cement.


>>1439650
Oh I agree. The conundrum of how to deal with the differences between men and women in a way that doesn't get the majority of people on your back is nearly impossible. Though it will quickly solve itself if you Americans get into a ground war with ISIS: seeing as they would enslave and rape the female troops.

Again, my opinion is that if they are good enough to do the job, great but never lower the standards. I also have little problem with them doing admin but I am aware that the number of jobs in that department decreases yearly thanks to automation.

As to the sexual harassment problem, there is no solution for that in the current political and law environment. The moment however there is no cash incentive the problem odd to solve itself.

>>1439705
Well we could easily just walk into the quarry and clear it. I've done it before with my character

>>1439716
True but I don't want to risk it.

>>1439705
Can't we use or make up that stuff the Romans used as Cement and things like that? Or just Quarry the blocks in there to lock/rest together like a puzzle so they don't just 'fall in' on themselves?

tfw applying a job's logic to fallout and trying to think of some bullshit that would work.

>>1439720
Well we have limited fuel for the vertibird

>>1439705
We're a character with max stats, power armor, an anti-material revolver, and cosmic knife.
If we just walk into the quarry it wouldn't take more than an hour to clear.

>>1439650
Just have one standard to meet, if your man or woman. easy.

>>1439735
For the military? Women can't serve combat roles as much as men, but can administrative

>>1439725
The Romans had access to Volcanic rock. They essentially had the cheat material to making cement and concrete but they never really advanced beyond this method. Literally because it was so effective.

As to the material in the quarry, we can make use of it if we can set up a good furnace in the area to process the limestone and some clay.


>>1439728
You raise a good point: we need to set up a bio-still soon and start making wood gas.


>>1439731
You also raise a good point, here is my response: Nat 1. Admittedly it is unlikely but still.

>>1439745
If the NCR can make concrete, so can we. We need all of the specialty characters in the game, such as Raul and Loyal

>>1439754
Concrete is easy to make, good concrete is harder but with fallout tech shouldn't be too difficult. Essentially we just need to make ground limestone and then burn it with clay. Depending on the quality of the clay and shit we will make some good shit that will set even underwater, this particular recipe is still used today.

Essentially the NCR are going to send their army and we are going to pull some "magnificent seven" bullshit but with 30 super soldier: us and all of our possible companions. In power armour. With artillery support. Backed by our nations army.

>>1439741
Well does it really matter what their gender is as long as they meet the standard? don't go easy on the women, but if they can serve in the field let them.

>>1439779
If they can, then absolutely. We need everyone we can get, yet there aren't going to be many.

>>1439778
The NCR might send their army in time, but between the Dam, the attack on Camp McCarran, on Forlorn Hope, on Helios, on Golf, and on the many outposts, they won't be back for a while

>>1439778
>>1439791
actually, Why not 'clear' the quarry when the 'battle' at the damn happens. If we don't want to be 'known' as the leader of this nation yet we can use it as a vaild excuse.

>>1439791
You underestimate the power of the NCR and their army.

Also we've only planned attacks on Camp McCarran. We can almost certainly arrange some more if we are smart.

However we must be careful not to weaken them too much more so than the Legion.

>>1439804
We'll take the NCR side for the dam, turn on them at the end, after we have killed Lanius, Caeser, and the entire camp. The NCR people want out of the Mojave, and a defeat is just what they need to get pushed out of this desert.

>>1439803
I mean we could, but I see a number of other higher value targets

>>1439812
Well, they're deathclaws. When we have the time and fuel, just take a vertiberd and strafe them a few times with a minigun.

>>1439812
>>1439804
Why bother aiding the NCR. Let the Legion and NCR duke it out and then 'houses' Robots show up because 'muh Damn power.'

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>>1439703
>However with the fact 100% of the surface folks in Fallout have been exposed to radiated FEV seems to have possible closed the gap to some fashion.
The NCR, the original Enclave, the BoS, and the Boomers readily employ women into arms and combat roles, as well as many caravan and trader groups.

Mostly its the Legion who is primarily a male dominated society.

200 years of post apocalyptic necessity, miniscule population, and scarcity of food to diminish the importance of child birth and family rearing has altered previous societal constraints.

>>1439803
We plan on revealing the existence of our power by attacking as many NCR and Legion cities as possible while the majority of their forces are distracted with their battle for the dam.

We plan on doing this by convincing raiders to attack the NCR bases (while we take their bases and then kill them with our ex-slaves when they return) while we deploy by Vertibird to attack the Legion and destroy as much of their stuff as possible.


>>1439812
I suppose that could work but I feel we need to arrange more attacks on their shit to make sure.

>>1439816
We'll do this. They'll bloody themselves and we'll roll in and clean up.
>>1439818
Of course.

>>1439817
I gave a reason for them to be in said roles. The airborne might've made them as strong and viable as men. Women are usually too valuable in a post apocalyptic world as breeding and house hands to use in combat roles.

>>1439818
Or you let them bloody themselves at the damn AND then attack, Thus ensuring they can't just call a truce and leave it for another time. Also, Kill the asshole when he visits the damn, blame it on the legion but also ensure Ceaser dies.

>>1439823
We need Kimball to survive for someone to blame. If he died, the people might be angry enough to continue the attack

>>1439823
That is the idea, once they have committed their resources to the attack, we signal that it is time to launch the raids.


>>1439827
This, we need the NCR infighting and him before his people not them united behind his "valiant death".

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>>1439823
That's also a strong possibility, I would also factor in some eugenics at play where those women who were most likely to survive and thrive the wasteland in turn were also more likely to raise children.

>>1439817
Admittedly in many cases it doesn't matter what gender is wearing power armor, however most notably you will find women in the NCR's elite forces, the Rangers.

Many of the couriers companions have also displayed and improved their combat skill under his training, such as Rose of Sharon, Veronica, Doc Delilah, Willow, Sunny Smiles, and others.

Definitely by the current year population and survival levels have reached the point where women don't necessarily have to be hemmed in at home. It helps that west and southwest US has clean water.

>>1439827
Yeah, can't have martyrs in this war. Just fuckups. gotta save Kimball's ass.

>>1439845
Oh ya, Most likely for sure. Its a weird thought that i doubt anybody who made Fallout would you know, Actually look into before putting out.

>>1439850
I'd say in areas like the Capital wasteland where food and clean water were scarce (and this honestly is a bigger problem than monsters and raiders) you saw more women and wives at home, including harem towns. Slavery was bigger too since women were more prized. The population in those areas was smaller as well.

>>1439860
Too be fair though, The West was only well taken care of because of the first 2 games. However it was just as bad and radiated. It also took place 10-20? years before 3 or even longer.

the population charts for these factions are so god damn weird.

>>1439890
There are population charts? Where? All I have to go off of is how expendable they treat people and the size of their nations.

>>1439909
Over 700,000 people live in the confederation

>>1439909
Thats what I meant, Sorry.

>>1439918
Oh fuck a duck with a truck in the muck, we have shit luck.


So they currently outnumber us at a ratio of 10,000 to 1 or there abouts.

>>1439926
Well we have the nukes from the Divide...

>>1439932
We are not nuking one of the few regions that is stable and productive.


Also we might hit Vault city, which pretty much screws over some of the last pre-war and advanced populations.


However we could fire the nukes into the ocean to create a blast-wave to push enough water towards the coast to drown everything for miles. Cause science. Or we just threaten the NCR with us controlling them and let them remain.

>>1439941
Well, I would rather use it on them than vice-Versa. Besides, if we spread into the midwest, it will be untouched land just like New Vegas

>>1439946
...I doubt that but you are correct, the Midwest was hit far less.


So if we can somehow gain control over those regions, we can probably out compete the NCR and Legion for population, farmland and industry. Seeing as it won't have been as intensely nuked.

>>1439950
That depends on how far QM goes with this, and how much he wants to butcher the lore

>>1439950
>>1439954
Midwest and West got hit almost as bad as the East coast. Due to it having large popluation centers and actual targets of interest. Unless thats changed recently.

>>1439954
I am going to guess pretty far.

>>1439959
There is far less in the middle of america historically speaking, just because of how...shit it is.

Not bad just boring as hell.

>>1439959
The Midwest, I mean Nebraska, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Iowa, Kansas, etc.

>>1439968
DELET THIS

>>1439969
>>1439968
Ah, I thought you two meant places of impotrant, Well they still got fucked from fallout and the FEV plus all the other shit leaking into the air.

>>1439969
Oh for fuck sake. Accept it. Like I accept the fact that I am a bus ride away from losing 20+ years from my life expectancy.

>>1439987
Fine, I hope you enjoy your mountains and depression
>>1439986
Well sure, but it probably has clean water, as well as some plant life, just like Vegas

>>1439986
Oh aye, chances are there were fewer military bases and such there. Seeing as they would be built in places they could reach easily with power and shit. Plus they didn't seemingly go for massive military installations and such, admittedly they had quite a few bunkers and such but they were seemingly made for the Enclave than the army.

>>1439995
Look I am sorry but I have never heard of a single interesting thing in the Midwest, ignoring the far south with their massive swamps and your huge mountain ranges. Both things I consider impressive but not greatly interesting.

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I have to make an announcement and say that the Courier has not launched the Nukes, neither at the NCR nor the Legion. He opted to convince Ulyssess to stand down.

Even as such as the Legion are, wiping out entire communities, whole scale genocide with ancient old world weapons would have devastated relations with the Followers, as well as some other factions like the BoS. Conversely because you had not launched the nukes, you enjoy fantastic relations with the followers and gained a boon to BoS relations (although other historical choices can change this). Survivors of the battle from afar saw you and Ulyssess leave and seal the nuclear room behind you.

That does not mean that one day, perhaps the Courier might decide to go back and work hard on re-launching the nukes, either on mass or individually, with more sensible choices but this will take considerable resources and be as hard as cracking a Vault plus the rewiring and breaking of the missile codes, and if successful even one launch will still have major consequences to relations.

Still, it was Ulysses words that inspired the Courier to start a nation.

"Whatever your symbol...

...carry it on your back, and wear it proudly when you stand at Hoover Dam."

>>1439995
The water is still dirty in New Vegas with all that nasty shit mate. Its why clean water is still such an important thing to get. Rad's don't go well, but each person is abit different hence why some stomach it better.

Also remember House Shot down alot of nukes heading for his area and the place it.

>>1439999
Checked and I doubt. It is most likely just shitty writing on there part.

>>1440012
>Tfw nuked both sides.

>>1439946
I rather we idn't use them. Its not like we actually secured the Divide. There's still the marked men and the tunnelers, which are spreading into the Mojave according to Ulysses.

>>1440016
>Tfw nuked both sides, then killed benny and was forgiven by everyone.

>>1440011
No you're right. I usually bag some good bucks out here though.

>>1440016
What about the clean water from the Colorado river? That's clean

>>1440016
>The water is still dirty in New Vegas with all that nasty shit mate
That was mostly in freeside and a result of poor sanitation and frank negligence by House and the NCR.

New Vegas and the Strip enjoyed clean water, pumped from pre-war tubes from the Colorado which itself has remained clean, mostly. Everything is some level of radioactive, but its not Capital Wasteland tier. Mr. House made a huge effort to stave away nukes from the Colorado, combined with the nature of the flowing waters helped to cleanse it of some immediate fallout ad presumably there were no major hits along the river north of the Mojave.

One of the first things you notice in Goodsprings are the working water wells which give the town its name.

>>1440025
I am going to guess Colorado got nuked. It seems that they would have been used for military shit given the region's general isolation, mountainous nature and so on.

>>1440033
Colorado got fucked. The rest of the midwest might be fine though. Nebraska has a large air base by Omaha and the SAC

>>1440029
As I said, Mr. House defected alot of the nukes coming for the area and I was getting at the fact its still radative just not as badly.

>>1440033
>>1440039
You guys know how far Mr. houses defenses actually reacted out? Cause we should count those areas as pretty much fucked unless they had an Umbrella defense.

>>1440029
It can also be said that the Chinese sent different tiers of warheads to different places, with different levels of defense.

For example, in San Diego where the United States primary power armor research and facory was located, an enormous nuke was detonated to create a literal giant hole in the earth that glows day and night and releases Radiation Storms.

Similarly there are places in DC so irradiated as to cause instant death even with an advanced suit. It may be a testament to united states defense systems that the capital wasteland was not turned to glass entirely.

Anyway, enough OOC.

>Writing