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>>1502990
Arc managed to give you something resembling a nervous grin when you finally trudged back into the 15th’s base camp--you realize dimly that it had advanced a few dozen meters from where you first left it, and a few craters here and there suggest that Mortarphant had at least something to say to their attacks. But with all the fatigue crashing down on you at once, you didn’t exactly stop to chat with her.

Just as well, it turns out, you’re in the kind of shape where the Lifesavers are too busy fixing you to chew you out for getting that way in the first place. Time unlatches from sense and you’re content to just… sit there, a while, thinking about your latest brush with death on the greatest job ever.

Three hours. Three hours you were huddled in that hole, waiting for any second to be your last.

...And then there’s Sabomole, he’s on you, too. You hope the poor bastard is okay.

You realize it’s been a while since you heard or felt the numbed buzz of precision scalpelwork on your armor, and look up to find yourself in the medbay alone. Almost on cue, you receive a ping of a new contact in your mail.

I4115//signal trace fail
THE SLEDGE.

THE REFORGED HAMMER WILL NOT BREAK TWICE.

BE THEIR SWORD, AND EIGHT WILL BE YOUR ARMOR.

>THE RIDER. THE FORTUNATE. THE KNIGHT. THE SLAYER. THE PEACOCK. THE LANCER.

… Terrific.

>

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

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Happy memorial day weekend, all.

This one has some plot ground to cover, and, of course, upgrades. If I'm honest I hope they take a good long while, I could use the rest.

Such as it is.

>>1502991
>THE SLAYER

>>1502991
>THE KNIGHT

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>>1502991
>THE SLAYER

Yay new thread, double yay for landing on a weekend where I don't have work.

In other news, Hunter operations have officially expanded into the Origin system recently.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

Maybe it will pertain to Seven?

>>1502991
The slayer

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>>1502991
>The Knight
It said sword in the cryptic hint might as well see where this takes us.
Good to see you up and running HC.

>>1502991
>THE LANCER.

>>1502991

>THE LANCER

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>>1502991
>The Knight

Welcome back.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

>>1502994
I am prepared to make upgrade discussions take as long as you need.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

Howdy HC.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

>all these votes for the fortunate

>it ain't me starts playing in the distance

>>1502991
>THE SLEDGE.
>THE REFORGED HAMMER WILL NOT BREAK TWICE.
>BE THEIR SWORD, AND EIGHT WILL BE YOUR ARMOR.

This suggests that when we do a mission with the 8th that we should focus on being the offense while they focus on defense.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

>>1503087
It also suggests that Frog is now immortal and unstoppable, which is a nice change of pace.

>>1502991
>THE FORTUNATE

Hope the upgrades include armor or a big boom.

We almost died here if the elephant didn't alienate her own allies we would be dead.

This kind of opponents... they are too much for us.

We should have taken that pension.

>>1503092
Doesn't say he won't go Maverick though, so get ready to hate his newfound immortality!

>>1503098
We've branched out of canon. At this point, I'm pretty sure Anode is literally the only Reploid alive or dead that isn't coming after us as a mav, X included.

...you know, until the Anode Hunters or whatever make a Shadow Anode.

>>1503093
>We almost died here if the elephant didn't alienate her own allies we would be dead.
>This kind of opponents... they are too much for us.

It was a (not completely) surprise S+ rank that interfered. If that beetle had not been there we would have been fine.

>>1503078
>I ain't no Weissritter's son

>>1502991
>THE KNIGHT
There we go.

>>1503102
Shadow Anode. Hmm. Seems like he already has a counterpart, but she's not Maverick yet...

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>>1503165
Don't you dare imply that.

>>1502991
Right, be really nice to the eighth, got it.
>THE SLAYER

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>>1502991
You’re silent for a moment, eyes glazing at the words glowing back up at you.

Finally, you key your response.

>THE FORTUNATE.

Nothing, for a moment, and then:

ACKNOWLEDGED.

>Who i

As you type the response, your screen blinks briefly, and then--

CONTACT LOST

Right.

You sigh and close the message, noting two more… from the same damn sender.

S. FOXFIRE: So wubsy, word is energy weapons defense are about to turn a corner. That turtle-thingy may not be long for this world... (March of technology: Tumult Shell is losing effectiveness)
S. FOXFIRE: Got another shipment of parts with the numbers filed off. They’re waiting in your room. Don’t ask me how I got them in there. (Soul Foxfire has sent along motorization components. These parts can be directed to either the Crossmore rebuild or to India’s jet project. These parts will make the Crossmore (blade configuration) available for remobilization.)

...Well, that, and one more.

R&DNOREPLY@MHHQ: Your parts order has come in and been delivered to 4th Overland’s lab.

That’ll be your next move, you suppose. You head to the lab--alarmed for a moment how empty the place is, before you remember with a start that the barracks have moved. You don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here.

The lab space is still here, for now. You wonder if you’ll be sharing with other units if they ever move the whole base. You enjoy the quiet while you have it, still feeling somewhat withdrawn after your long hell-slog home.

A technician is dispatched, and in the ten minutes of waiting, you receive another notification. Oh, payday.

Combat mission and retirement of target: 15000
Hazard Pay (Artillery approach): 30000
Hazard Pay (enemy reinforcements): 5000
Opening of combat theater: 10000
Reclamation of occupied base: 10000
Bounty (DNA Mimic): 15000 (5000/head)
Intel (“PHANTOM” group): 5000
Command Commission: 7500
Gift of gratitude (Enfillade Shellephant): 1000
Total: 98,500 zenny

GRAND TOTAL: Z100,003

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>>1503311
UPGRADES:
You have received Blueshift: Anode can now channel Capacitor energy into the Jump Jet to shift the flame wreathe into ionized plasma, providing greater speed, force, and damage.


OPTIONS:
Blaster Shell: Stock VWES option. A high-powered explosive shell with long range. Slow rate of fire. 16 shots.

Blaster Launcher: By installing a hardpoint into Anode’s shoulder, the larger barrel and more stable firing configuration will allow a longer range, higher-power shell. Though mounting a shoulder cannon will slightly reduce Anode’s overall mobility, any created shoulder weapons will be removeable before fielding. In general, shoulder-mount weapons do not consume a VWES slot, and exceptions will be noted. This particular weapon has no ammunition limit.

Shell Driver: By retooling the mortar component and shaping the warhead, this weapon allows for a far superior effective range--a shot is loaded into the buster and “charged” for distance, looping into OPAL to indicate its arrival point. In the time the weapon is socketed into the buster, that hand is unusable. However, it can double as an explosive melee punch--literally--that does not inflict any damage on Anode, even if a shell is detonated by incoming fire. In addition, due to the accelerant of the weapon itself having nowhere to go, the weapon provides immense recoil, likely launching the target (and Anode!) away unless braced beforehand. While the initial recoil is not absorbed, the kinetic impact from landing is not, providing additional capacitor charge. Anode can also pair it with the Mass Shriver to remain fixed firmly in place and send his target off on a joyride. 8 shots.

Other options:
Armor upgrade: Requires estimate. This would be a major endoconstructive overhaul of Anode’s combat plating and necessitate some downtime.
Buster: Refire Rate (82K), Additional Charge Level (161K)
Shielding: Shield Strength (40K), Increased Phase Margin (47K), Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K)
VWES Upgrades:
-General: Additional Ammo (20K)
-Tension Coil: Charge Capacity (50K), Wire Reclaim (50K), Fast Zipline (35K), Improved Conductivity (25K), Nonlethalized Braid (25K)
-Tumult Shell: Snapper (45K)
-Blackout Rocket: Blowpast (42K)
-Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33K)

Other:
Misericorde: Refinements (TBD), Spiderbite (TBD)
Jump Jet: Refinements (35K)
Hardpoint: Installation (30K)
Point-Defense Drone: (55K)
Capacitor Saber Pack (50K)

Details available upon request.

UPGRADE VOTING: Bear in mind these are going to be majority by category, not majority combination.

MORTARPHANT UPGRADES:
>Blaster Shell
>Blaster Launcher
>Shell Driver
>Other?

OTHER UPGRADES:
>As requested and open to discussion.

MOTORIZATION COMPONENTS:
>Send to Crossmore rebuild
>Send to India

>>1503315
>Blaster Launcher
XCOM tells me that this is very yes.
>Send to India
Must make waifu happy.

>>1503315
Can we have more details re. the misericorde upgrades?

>>1503315
> Shell Driver
We really need to focus more on melee, and this is great melee utility weapon for Anode.
> Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithm
Its only a matter of time until we get hit with something like this again
> Send to Crossmore rebuild

>>1503315
Information requests:

>Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K)
>Tumult Shell: Snapper (45K)
Cost for dealing with the march of technology also requested
>Blackout Rocket: Blowpast (42K)
>Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33K)

Initial thoughts regarding Mortarphant data are taking a bit of a liking to the Blaster Launcher, because not eating a VWES slot and no ammo to fuck with. Depends a lot on how slight that mobility reduction is.

As for the motorization components, the 8th would almost certainly appreciate the Crossmore, but getting India back in the sky would be a major gamechanger

>>1503315
/r/ing further info on Increased Phase Margin, Wire Reclaim, Improved Conductivity, Snapper, Blowpast, and Point-Defense Drone

>>1503324
>Shell Driver

>>1503324
Its not an Xcom Blaster Launcher (i.e. not a super Rocket Launcher). It is Vile's Shoulder Cannon.

>>1503363
>Vile's Shoulder Cannon.
I love that thing! My vote's staying the same.

>>1503315
>Shell Driver
>Send to India

Waiting for details on other upgrades before anything else.

>>1503315
>Shell Driver
This might not actually be the most useful upgrade we can choose here but goddamn it sounds fun.
Though I wonder what options we would have if we wanted to reinforce the tumult shells

>see about misericorde refinement
>give parts to jet lady

>>1503315
>Blaster Launcher
It basically gives us more VWES configurations with little to no downside. I think our design will look hideous afterwards though. We'll look too cluttered.
>give parts to India
It might just save our skin

>>1503315
>Send to India
For personal and tactical reasons. Eighth has just been reinstated; they've got lots of resources. For all her wealth, India is in danger of being downsized. She needs it more.

>Shell Driver
This looks like a blast to use, but I'd also like to ask about some other alternatives.
Specifically, Mortarphant used a lot of missiles. Would anything in the recovered DNA be viable as a sort of missile/torpedo weapon? We have a couple water missions in our future, and if we get dunked, I'd think artillery won't be quite as useful as something self-propelled.

Details please:
>Jump Jet: Refinements (35K)
>-Tension Coil: Nonlethalized Braid (25K)
I thought TC was already nonlethal, as long as we fire the coil with the razor edges still folded inward. Is this like a lasso? I warn you, I will always vote for cowboy upgrades, just on basic instinct.

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Misericorde upgrades could make the device more stable and/or wieldy, you’ll need to have it assessed by an expert, but generally they will trend towards making it better as a weapon, more effective at what it does, or retune it to be a less volatile weapon. Your expert assessment is coming shortly.

Shielding: Increased Phase Margin (47K) increases invulnerability window by 71 milliseconds.
Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K) decreases shield drain caused by thermal attacks.

(Remember that upgrades to systems are usually iterative--upping invuln by a tiny fraction now will let you improve it further to get more noticeable grace period windows.)

Tumult Shell: “Snapper” upgrade improves the density (and thus endurance) of the shell, and causes it to shatter when expired, releasing explosive compressed energy from impacts taken in transit.

Blackout Rocket: “Blowpast” upgrade would allow the payload to penetrate energy barriers even if the rocket impacts on one. This can damage enemies such as Barrier Attackers who are physically fragile but hide behind thick shielding.

Lockon Hunter: Recalibration could allow half-strength laser shots to consume less weapon energy, allowing 32 weaker lasers (with the same long range), 16 regular, or 8 overcharged.

Tension Coil: Wire Reclaim: Regain half the weapon energy used. Does not reclaim charged shots. Z50,000.
Improved Conductivity: The wires can already channel electricity, this makes them better at doing so. Z25,000.

Point-defense drone: As it stands, Anode's DNA doesn't support drones. Adding a drone component with market-standard autonomous systems would run Z55,000 zenny, even before the addition of any other customization.

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>>1503433
Jump Jet: Small optimizations would pave the way to later upgrades--a small increase in distance traveled, for now, could lead to faster recharge times or even the construction of additional booster vents built flush within your chassis. Starts at Z35,000.

T. Coil is still lethal, most noticeably when actually straining against it, which pushes the monofilaments out. Nonlethalized Braid: Removes the bladed braid. Can still do damage by striking with the charged variant (if you get one). Z25,000.

>>1503435
Get snapper, help the shell stay competitive.

To my previous vote, adding
>Blackout Rocket 'Blowout'
>Lockon Hunter recalibration

>>1503315

>Blaster Launcher: Making a shoulder unit means it doesn't have to fight for VWES space.

>Shielding: One of them, don't really care which

Don't bother with upgrading the shell, we have limited slots and haven't been taking it already.

> Other: Jump jets refinements

>>1503435
>Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K) decreases shield drain caused by thermal attacks.

So increased resistance versus fire? Or does this also include ice?

>>1503462
I'd guess that it's probably only fire. Seems like it'd be Thermal/Cryo Diffusion Algorithm if it included ice. That's just my guess though.

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>>1503462
>>1503464
It does help against both extremes, yes.

>>1503471
Oh, neat.

>>1503471

Ok, the I don't think we need it now, but I think we should grab it before the Gibbon.

>>1503315
Eh, gonna play it fairly frugal after all.

Upgrades:
>Shell Driver
>Increased Phase Margin

Motorization Components:
>Send to India

Also, think we could chip in for Sabomole to get some counseling or something? Poor guy's probably a mess by now.

>>1503484
Seconding this. He's just a civilian, he shouldn't be having to deal with sadistic cephalopods and psychotic pachyderms.

>>1503497
Yup. Agreed.

>>1503484
>Also, think we could chip in for Sabomole to get some counseling or something?
Maybe we can see if there's a therapist offering a 2 for 1 deal!

That said, should probably also send a message of condolences to Compass' unit. At least Sabomole came out alive.

>>1503315
Shell Driver or Blaster Launcher both have uses, That massive melee kick with skriver can open the enemy up for range attacks or throwing them onto terrain. Like sending bosses into spikes. Of course, having that heavy launcher means we can fire from THREE guns at once. Always a handy thing and frees up a VWES slot. We are already crazy mobile, so the hit isn't so bad.
>>1503440
We got the jump jet things on the Sabomole upgrade options.

>>1503484
Great, soon he can join the "My Therapist is Dead" club.

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>>1503315
>Blaster Launcher
>Jump Jet: Refinements (35K)
>Hardpoint: Installation (30K)

>Send to India

Also new edit

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>>1503523
Yeah, I somehow completely forgot you guys got the first upgrade for the jets.

Stand by a while, need to go note-hunting.

>>1503435
>send to india

>Shell Driver

>jump jet

I figure we're fast enough and durable enough that we can close the distance from all but the longest of long range enemies and if that's the case they'd probably outrange us anyways.

>>1503098
That doesn't sound like exactly what I would do and/or already did surprise.

Also hello everyone.

>>1503535
sup Cain, last I heard HC killed you with puns

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>>1503525
Also updated mission select

this is a rather tame thread, normally when upgrades are involved their's more blood on the floor over what we should or shouldn't buy.

Also it's the 7th that's the air force right? Think they would buy india's jets to bolster their forces? I mean it takes YEARS to build reploids but only a few months to train someone to fly a jet so it could open it up for humans to let them fill their ranks quicker while they wait for those replacement reploids to show up in the mail.

>>1503311
>S. FOXFIRE: So wubsy, word is energy weapons defense are about to turn a corner. That turtle-thingy may not be long for this world... (March of technology: Tumult Shell is losing effectiveness)

Just to dissect this for a second: "Something" is being developed that is going to make energy weapons much less effective. Tumult shell will be mostly redundant, since it's mostly geared towards blocking/deflecting energy weapons. Not much point upgrading it anymore. It should still come in useful against Stellar Atlantica and Glacier Gibbon, though, since they're best known for their laser optics.

The other side of this, though: It's also a good reason not to upgrade the lockon hunter or our busters, in the near future. We need to know what this new development is first, to plan around it.

I wonder if this is what made Collide so resistant to busters and the laser? Maybe he's made with similar cutting-edge technology, and we just happened to get a sneak preview before the nerds could break the news.

>>1503566
Mortarphant's upgrade is pretty simple and both special options provide amazing combos. An unlimited ranged heavy weapon, or something with far more bang that can be used in melee or range and works with both OPAL and Skiver. Both are free as well, so it's not bad.
Shield strength and Phase Margin are both good. Taking more damage and our invincibility lasting longer means combo strikes or death by 1000 cuts are less an issue.
We'll need to look at the Armor Upgrade some time as well. Knowing how much that'll cost can give us an idea.

>>1503598
>works with both OPAL and Skiver
>Skiver
X5 isn't for a while, you know

>>1503315
While going full Vile is tempting, I'm worried that we'll have to stand still momentarily each time we shoot the Blaster Launcher like the aforementioned. Will this be the case?

>>1503611
Shriver. Autocorrect Cuckoo likely got him.

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>>1503315
MORTARPHANT UPGRADES:
>Blaster Launcher

We're already among the most mobile Hunters, and the Blueshift ought to cover any mobility drop caused by a shoulder cannon. Plus, another heavy long-range option might come in handy on our S mission. Sometimes you just need more gun, and with it another VWES slot.

I won't cry if we get Shell Driver, though. Pic related.

OTHER OPTIONS:
>Armor upgrade: Requires estimate.
Get that estimate. Collide shrugged off an absurd amount and we ought to get a piece of that.
>Hardpoint: Installation (30K)
Required for the Launcher.

VWES UPGRADES:
>Tension Coil: Improved Conductivity (25K)
Mavericks call us Livewire. This'll make us livelier, and gives us a harder shock in melee range.

Save the remaining 55,003z for whatever the armor cost will be.

MOTORIZATION COMPONENTS:
>Send to India
She's been waiting.

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>>1503624
You can fire it while moving, but for range and accuracy you'll want to be able to aim it.

Keep in mind, dynamic and kinetic combat is a big part of what makes MMX what it is. You're not going to go full Siege Tank.

... not with THIS upgrade, anyway.

Any chance of taking the raw tumult shell DNA and turning it into something external and more specialized like a shield?

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>>1503648
After locking the configuration, no, you no longer have DNA, you have weapons data. You can play with the data in a few ways or try to hybridize it, but no turning it back into the most adaptable form.

>Blackout Rocket: “Blowpast” upgrade would allow the payload to penetrate energy barriers even if the rocket impacts on one. This can damage enemies such as Barrier Attackers who are physically fragile but hide behind thick shielding.

Does this apply to normal shields too? Being able deal scratch damage during Iframes would be amazing.

>>1503435
UPGRADES:
You have received Blueshift: Anode can now channel Capacitor energy into the Jump Jet to shift the flame wreathe into ionized plasma, providing greater speed, force, and damage.
OPTIONS:
primary vote Shell Driver
secondary vote Blaster Launcher
Z100,003
Other options:
definatly get
Jump Jet: Refinements (35K)
-Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33K)
would also suport
VWES Upgrades:
-General: Additional Ammo (20K)
-Tension Coil: Fast Zipline (35K), Improved Conductivity (25K)
Hardpoint: Installation (30K)

MOTORIZATION COMPONENTS:
>Send to India

We already have jumpjet refinements, HC copypasted without taking it off.

Alright, alright, bare with me here while I try to get a direction here. I'm digging Shell Driver just a bit more than Blaster Launcher. The rocket punch could be a big boon with keeping big aggressive guys off of us like Collide and possible Tanker later. They go in for a big charge like they tend to and find themselves moving backwards rapidly thanks to a Shiver Driver combo.

I definitely want Blowpast though, and a price check on getting upgrades for the Misericorde. Both of those weapons have gotten us through way too much to neglect in any capacity.

>>1503668
>Tell me more about the Armor upgrade.

I'm on my phone so I can't make a big post but the shell driver has my vote.

Can we buy a second copy of Mortarphant's data?

So here's my current lean (not a vote yet)

Hardpoint: Installation (30K)
Blaster Launcher
Blowpast (42K)

The hardpoint gives us another weapon slot, and the blaster launcher is an unlimited ammo heavy weapon - better and longer lasting than what we could get in VWES.

Blowpast upgrades our blackout rockets, which have been consistently useful. If it lets us deal damage through all shields (and not just dedicated shielders like barrier attackers), then it'll be at lot more effective at dealing damage against single target bosses in addition to its current status as a great debuff.

If we go with the Blaster Launcher, can we have it looped into OPAL to improve its aiming on the go?

>>1503904
That sounds good but we need more armor since the tumult shells have been "downgraded" recently. Also better armor doesn't take a VWD slot and is always with Anode.

>>1503315
We'll need as much firepower variety as possible, so the Blaster Launcher being a separate weapon is a big plus. Installing a Hardpoint will be necessary to facilitate equipping the thing, too.
>Blaster Launcher
>Hardpoint: Installation (30K)

From there, we increase our defense against other thins, like heat and cold.
>Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K)

Finally, to round things out, we should increase our VWES ammo count; don't want to run out of the good shit like Chaff or the Lockons too soon, after all.
>General: Additional Ammo (20K)

That should leave us with 8k Zenny for a rainy day.

>>1503566
Is because we are in qst.

>>1504141
Not just that. Upgrade arguments have been memed up a bunch. The only really major arguments were tied to the multiple threads it took to get Sol's data and that was because everyone was split between flame dash and murder sword, two very different options.

Motorphant's options are much closer together filling similar roles with many only having a slight preference of either Shell Driver or Blast Launcher over the other while accepting both.

One thing to remember about mounted weapons is that if it gets destroyed. Its either gone for good or we need to pay to get it repaired.

>>1504107
I would say put off thermal diffusion until later and additional ammo only works for one vwes at a time. I'd say going for better shields would be a smarter choice. Actually HC, would the snaper upgrade put the tumult shells back in front of the curve again?

>>1504224
Is that really the case, though?

>Hardpoint installation (30K)
>Blaster Launcher

>Blowpast (42K)
>General: Additional Ammo (20K)

>Send to India

I won't be mad if we get the Shell Driver, though. I just prefer the Blaster Launcher slightly more.

>>1504107
>>1504307
What do you want to get the ammo upgrade for? It's a per-VWES thing.

MORTARPHANT UPGRADE
Blaster Driver. That looks like overwhelming offense AND mobility if we use it right, with a charge gotten out of it to boot. Too good not to take, even at 8 shots and a slot.

OTHER OPTIONS
Tumult Shell: Snapper. Might as well get ahead of the curve on this one, and adding an offensive aspect to our mostly defensive/utility VWES entity seems like a good idea.

Improved Conductivity: We use our T. Coil a lot, and zapping is our bread and butter. Besides, we've got a name to live up to.

As for the parts... I think we should ask India where they should go. I think we could use that Crossmore for taking on Yamatoad, and thus possibly scoring jet stuff from his shipyard, but since it'd only give us blade (which is good but I don't think it'll be able to work off of our pretty awesome VWES loadout), will mean we'll have to get up close and personal to shit, and we're not really ride armor trained.

>>1504107
This works for me. Maybe we could see if our B team needs upgrades too? For next time of course.

"B team?"

"I hope you guys reach B rank someday."

"Ah ok."

>>1503315
Upgrade:
>Blaster Launcher
We seriously need an offensive punch, and this won't seriously hamper our mobility.

Other:
>Hardpoint: Installation (30K)
>Jump Jet: Refinements (35K)
98,500-65,000=33,500
hopeful that's enough for the potential miscorde upgrades.

>>1504593
Heck, DNA mimics might be perfect targets for the team to take on. We might also be able to use it to justify HQ giving the Broken their own DNA upgrades.

>>1504742
Maybe.

Gentlemen, a thought occurred to me while looking at ideas. We could use the Launcer for rocket jumping.

>>1504852
Don't think so. Shell Driver would though.

Say. When our VWES entities become obsolete, does that carry over to the equipment the Bravely Broken sport?

Cause they're toting around those Tumult Shell shields.

>>1505016
I think its more a degradation. (i.e. A rank weapon degrading to B rank) The Skippers were B ranks so them going to C pretty much made them obsolete as a VWES weapon.

>>1504938
Rocket jumping is basically jumping off the blast. It just requires a big enough blast and the Launcher is even stronger than the standard VWES. It likely has recoil as well, which could be used for maneuvering as well. Should wait for HC before saying if it can or cannot though.

>>1504852
We have a jetpack.

>>1505119
No, Rocket/Grenade jumping is using the knockback effect of many FPS explosive weapons to move.

Only the Shell Driver has stated recoil.

>>1505161
And? Could use that as well. Dash, jump, jump off explosion, use wire, and then jump jet. But in all seriousness, some strong, unlimited explosives can help us and using it in such ways help deal with the slight mobility drop.
>>1505183
And thats why I'm asking. The fact we needed to be on solid ground for better aim makes me think there is still kickback and recoil from making the shot. And the shell driver's knockback was likely mentioned due to it's incredible power.
Now, great power is nice, but we have been using a lot of low ammo weapons and they fall off quickly too. We got plenty of one shots, but our long term game isn't so good. The last mission showed that. We need some steady power that doesn't run out.

>>1503315
>Blaster Launcher

SHOULDER CANNON. Seriously, it's a new weapon that doesn't take up a VWES slot. And maybe new data can allow us to develop new loadouts for it? This is just full of potential.

>Jumpjet refinements.
>Hardpoint installation.

Should deal with any loss of mobility. Beyond that, I'm open.

>>1503315
Voting for the Blaster Launcher, and obviously as a result, the hardpoint install.

Also the Increase Phase Margin, I guess.

>>1505312
Not only that but once we have that hardpoint installed we can put all kinds of stuff on there.

>>1503315
What is the firerate on the Blaster Launcher? One every few seconds or so?

Also, sis is going to give us much a hard time about mounting a should cannon, especially if it winds up bigger than her guns.

hey, if the shoulder mount is a standardized attachment system, does that mean there are some standard weapon/utility options, if our cannon isn't suitable for a mission?

>>1505427
Well, it says that the cannon is removeable, and alludes to other options... I bet we can do all sorts of shit with that hardpoint.

>>1503315
>Shell Driver
>Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42K)
>Tumult Shell: Snapper (45K)

>Send to India

> Donate to counseling as noted in thread if possible for Sabomole

If I missed something, feel free to let me know (I had to skip through the thread rather quickly)

>>1504344
Wrenades, of course.

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Okay, back home, was visiting the family. Give me a little time to get caught up.

While I'm doing that, some clarifications:

1: The "expanded ammo" is per weapon, not a wholecloth upgrade.
2: Anode DOES have the improved Jump Jet, I managed to completely forget like a dingus. Now that I'm back I'll reconjure the expanded options.

I'm for at least stabilizing the misericorde so it works underwater, seeing as how we have two naval missions to go still.

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>>1503713
No, just systems that circumvent direct damage via a secondary defense system.

>>1503736
Damn it, "Shriver Driver" is an awesome combo name. In retrospect, probably because of the Mass Driver pun in the first place.

>>1503784
Nada.

>>1503922
Yes.

>>1504224
>>1504280
Short version: Yes, but we're not going to go out of way to Rust Monster your gear. The worst you can typically expect would be damage knocking it out for a mission.

>>1504226
It'd improve them enough to keep them current, yes.

>>1504742
Unfortunately, the Mimics are already adapting weapons data, not raw DNA, so there's no getting bootleg Chameleon Sting or Shotgun Ice or what have you off them.

>>1504852
No rocket-jumping with the shoulder cannon. You can think of the Shell Driver as the Recoil Rod meets Rocket Jumping. ... with a side of Falcon punch.

>>1505016
Yes, but remember your low-power hardware is their specialist equipment. And sometimes the dropoff isn't overly harmful--if T. Coils get depowered, they don't stop being useful as grapple lines.

>>1505312
You will be able to amass, create, customize, and mount other hardpoint weapons.

>>1505400
One every few seconds, yeah.

And stand by, Saetos options on the way. No escape from upgrade hell.

>>1505731
Is it time for me to screech about saetos swords again?

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Jump Jet options:
Distance retune: Reduce the damage component to significantly improve distance traveled. Z25,000.

ACtive IDentifier Reflex System: OPAL loop-in creates an emergency jump system that anticipates incoming attack and will automatically engage the Jump Jets if they are available to avoid incoming harm. Potentially double-edged sword, as it may misread an incoming attack or leave you without the jet at a crucial moment. Z45,000.

Extended Charge Projection: As the jets build energy for use, they will project limited compression bubbles outside the exhaust to use as additional energy storage. When in this “overcharge,” energy will visibly gather at the jets and contribute to the flame wreath on ignition, resulting in a more powerful flame effect on impact. Z55,000.

Inline Air Intakes: Modifications to Anode’s chassis will allow two front-mount vents and the beginning of an airflow system, improving the cycle time between jump-jet uses and cooldown. Z53,000.

Continued investment into the Jump Jet may permit retuning of the flame envelope around a beam blade projection on the move, or increased Blueshift power to release deadly bursts of UV lasers in all directions on boost.

I mean... these are all pretty cool, but expensive. There's not a lot we can do with this info on this go around. Maybe next time.

>>1505800
>Inline Air Intakes: Modifications to Anode’s chassis will allow two front-mount vents and the beginning of an airflow system, improving the cycle time between jump-jet uses and cooldown. Z53,000.
This plus the Snapper upgrade to keep tumult competive and useful would be good. I'd be fine with Driver if there are other options.
Though, how much does Indie give for weapon data? Because if it's enough, I say we get both intakes and extended charge. It'd be a great combo for it alongside blueshift.

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>>1505800
is it possible to improve other systems/weapons with the Inline Air Intake in the future?

Also, how would everone feel about investing in some elbow blades(elblades?) sometime down the line. We wouldn't have to go full Soulgain, just something to make us less grabbable in the future, as well as possible extra parrying capabilities.

Can we get additional info on developing the Blaster Launcher and the Shell Driver could look like?

>>1505812
I'd beg to differ. Inline air intakes and Extended Charge Projection are both good. Increasing recharge speed and using that increased speed to bolster the overflow is great. With the Skriver Driver combo, we could send someone flying and then hit them with a over charged jetpack thats Blueshifted. It's not that expensive comparatively speaking to other options(about 10k more than snapper) and opens up more compatibility with our other upgrades. It is expensive, but it damned if it doesn't pull it's weight.

How many additional wrenades would we get from ammo upgrade? Just 2, or more?

>>1503315
>>1503772 here

Now that I'm actually at a computer, I can post my reasonings.

>Shell Driver
This not only gives us a much needed power boost in melee, but I imagine it will be the perfect follow up to the Misericorde.

As for the other stuff;
-Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33K)
is the only thing I'm 100% behind considering we never take it off it's VWES slot.

>>1505912
Recalibration makes our shots weaker though. We have problems with penetration as is, toning it down further hurts us.

Giving an even weaker Lockon is a bad option; they already don't do a great job penetrating things.

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>>1505873
Not really, no. Most systems aren't positioned in Anode's chassis or systems in a way that would benefit from it. And they'd have structural complications besides.

>>1505894
Well, Blaster Launcher probably has a lower ceiling, and despite not taking up VWES, would also have the same problems with losing effectiveness long-term. That's not to say there's NO upgrade potential--you might be able to tune the fuzing or adapt the shells/payload.

Shell Driver, you could also change the payload as well as improve the recoil, increase the punch, maybe look into auxiliary systems for the charge-up mechanic. It would also be easier to develop a charged variant for, because it already has a similar component.

>>1505911
The Wrenade would start at 1. It's 1/8th base capacity at a time.

>>1505921
The Lockon Hunter can already fire the low-power shots, it just costs the same amount of ammo. Recalibration doesn't force you to. Think of it as changing from the 16 shot weapon you know to a 32 shot weapon that has a double and quadruple charge function identical to their standard/overcharged. It'd also let you do further upgrading down the line.

>>1505921 >>1505930


I suppose you could look at it as "using the weaker shots when needed means you could use more of the regular or strong shots when it counted". I feel like it's less that they're not great at penetrating things, and more that we've come up against a lot of stuff that's great at not being penetrated.

If there are any funds left over, I think we should consider putting them into improving the firing range.

>>1505921
No it doesn't? it just makes the half-charge shots not take a full charge amount of energy.

>>1505800
Inline Air Intakes: Modifications to Anode’s chassis will allow two front-mount vents and the beginning of an airflow system, improving the cycle time between jump-jet uses and cooldown. Z53,000.

Hell to the yes.

>>1505938
what about upgrading it into a full on linear gun that we could spend capaciter charge to accelerate? that'd definately up the power ceiling.

>>1505800
>Inline Air Intakes: Modifications to Anode’s chassis will allow two front-mount vents and the beginning of an airflow system, improving the cycle time between jump-jet uses and cooldown. Z53,000.
This gives me the mental image of Anode looking kind of like one of those ricer cars with a ridiculous body kit, and then eurobeat starts playing in my head.

>>1505942
Except why would we use the half charge to begin with when we have problems with the regular charges' power output? We have not needed to use the dialed back function and in some cases had to use full power for it because normal plinks. It's not worth it.

>>1505946
It's a mortar launcher with a shell projectile. It's not a rail weapon. Repurposing it into one is possible via solid metal payload shells (hello, bolts of liquid metal), but that's a one-way trip and might be better served just making a rail cannon.

>>1505938
The problem is more that the current 1/16 'standard's shots just haven't been that good at penetrating things.

If we meet a rare target that is so ridiculously soft that something even weaker than a 'standard' lockon is gonna kill it, we shouldn't even bother wasting vwes ammo on it.

>>1505961
Anon is probably talking about the Lockon Hunter, here.

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>>1505969
True, but two caveats there:

1: Weapon properties: A buster shot is slow and has travel time and shorter range. Lockon Hunter is an instantaneous laser.
2: Opening up the weapon to additional upgrades. Bear in mind that you now have OPAL and could investigate the synergy there. And that one Anon had a point--whatever your issues with the weapon, it's never left Anode's loadout since gaining it.

>>1505953
In several cases we had a large number of targets at long range but opted not to use Lockon Hunter because of ammo consumption.

>>1505969
We have been running into stuff we would overkill with standard shots but have not opted to use it due to ammo cost.

>>1505950
From the chat, it seems the intakes shave away 5 seconds from our 30 second cool off time. Thats 1/6th of our cooldown shaved off. That's pretty good for the price.

>>1505950
"NIGHTS ON FIYAH!"
"anode pls im trying to sleep"

>>1505938
>The Lockon Hunter can already fire the low-power shots, it just costs the same amount of ammo. Recalibration doesn't force you to. Think of it as changing from the 16 shot weapon you know to a 32 shot weapon that has a double and quadruple charge function identical to their standard/overcharged. It'd also let you do further upgrading down the line.
I think we should gradually recalibrate it until we can choose between 1/1024 lasers that can temporarily blind people without hurting them and a 1 shot death ray

>>1505985
is Susan's rifle able to calibrate shot strength? and if so can it be modified to mirror are calibration upgrade if we get it?

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>>1506056
Yes, but the ammo reservoir makes it a lot less useful.

And yes.

>>1506058
i figured it had a lower reservoir, all the more reason to get it those extra shots. he could snipe the little annoying buggers for us on over watch(Baaaaaaattsss)

another thing, is there any way we could link up what we see to our team, or at least Susan? Running into another phantom while we bring them along and them still not being able to see them is not something I want to have happen a second time.

>>1503315
>>Shell Driver
>>Lockon Hunter Recalibration
>>Increased Phase Margin
>>Send to India

>>1503315
YES TO SHELL DRIVER. YES.

Other than that, I like the upgrades to Tumult Shell and the Tokyo Drift Jump Jets.

>>1503315
OH! And load India up. Eighth could use the help, but we owe India a very serious debt.

>>1506102
that and her supporting us would probably be hella useful against Yamato's fleet.

>>1506098
>>1506102
I'll back this. We've had the Tumult shell for quite some time as well and it too provides us with plenty of uses. It'd keep it competitive, give it an attack option, and likely open it up as well.
Honestly, we could likely combine the Lockon with either Stellar's or Gibbon's weapon to improve it further. We can also use the upgrade to improve the Tumult shields that we have. That's two squaddies getting the boost instead of one.

>>1505800
Juroko is going to have an aneurysm if no one mentions it, so I'm telling everyone that it has been clarified that the Inline Air Intake for the Jump Jet will cut 5 seconds off of the 30 second recharge time, and open up future options.

>>1503315
>>Shell Driver
>>Lockon Hunter Recalibration
>>Increased Phase Margin
>>Send to India

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>BE THEIR SWORD, AND EIGHT WILL BE YOUR ARMOR.
>Meanwhile people want to give India the parts instead of getting the SWORD ride armor up and running
Really gets the tinker tonkin'

>>1506200
Getting the Crossmore up is likely to make a maverick stage easier but getting India ready likely will make the Fortress easier.

>>1506200
Yeah, with this in mind, I'm gonna go with using the parts for the Crossmore.

Alright then, changing my vote.

>>Shell Driver
>>Tumult Shell: Snapper (45K)
>>Inline Air Intakes (53K)
>>Send to India

Okay, so obviously "THE REFORGED HAMMER WILL NOT BREAK TWICE. BE THEIR SWORD," so we spend all the money on a shoulder mount, and install it into Emerald when he's sleeping. He won't be happy about having a gun, but we just put the bolts on the back where he can't reach them with his stubby little arms.

Or, no, wait, that's dumb, here's my real vote:

>Shell Driver - Energy defense is gonna turn a corner. Guess who is gonna have a big upgrade in non-energy attack? THIS GUY

>Inline Air Intakes: 53k . Anode will be blue and have a big fan going all through his body. He will be impossible to beat.

>Snapper: 45k. Mavericks currently know that the tumult shell is totally harmless to get hit by. So if we turn it into a powerful explosive weapon, it'll be one hell of a suckerpunch against the next guy we spring it on. It's also upgrading it to keep up with data degradation and be a better screen.

>Crossmore

>>1506269
Changing my vote to this, I was
>>1505333
but now I'm at work so my ID's changed

>>1505912 here. Official vote is

>Shell Driver
> Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33k)
> Inline Air intakes (55k)
>Crossmore

>>1503435
>>1503728 is me i am changing my vote in light of new info and analysis
> Shell Driver
> Lockon Hunter: Recalibration (33K)
> Inline Air intakes (55k)
> Crossmore
and i am thinking we should chip in 10K on counseling for Sabomole

>MHQ runs when I'm sick and I only noticed now
for FUCKS sake

>>1505800
changing
>>1504711
to
>Blaster Launcher:
>Hardpoint: Installation (30K)
>Tumult Shell: Snapper (45K)
>Parts to India
I'm hoping what's left can be used for misericorde.

want but can't afford:
>Inline Air Intakes Z53,000.

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>>1506351
>He doesn't check twitter three times a day

>>1506364
I would, except I spent the last 16 hours in a delirious haze.

>>1503315
>Mortarphant
Can we hybridize it with Blackout to create multi-stage explosive chaff?

>Send to India
> Inline Air intakes (55k)
>Improved Conductivity (25K)

this is going to be a pain to integrate into the titanpad

https://titanpad.com/QVkirj5Z8C

>>1506392
whoops, mistyped the cost

>>1506404
updated. Some of these things sound like they were offered in older missions that I just haven't gotten to yet, so I'll leave the date of offer blank.

>>1505938
Any Lockon upgrades we can get that just makes them plain better?

Command, I'm curious. Did you plan out where the phantoms be during the timeline in advance, or did you just roll some dice? What would have happened if we never had the Opal upgrade, skip them? Did Cain Labs cackle like a madman when we picked that as our very first upgrade?

>>1503315
>Blaster Launcher
While Shell Driver sounds fun as fuck, hard-hitting reliable ranged game is what Anode really needs right now.

>Send to India
If Light intended robots to walk around in larger robots, he'd not have stopped at one level of recursion.

No real opinion on the other upgrades.

>>1503315
>MORTARPHANT UPGRADES:
>Blaster Shell
Doesn't need the charge up time, allowing for snap fire, and doesn't slow us down. It's simple, but effective.

OTHER UPGRADES:
VWES
>General: Additional Ammo (20K)
Also put some money aside for another dash for Bravely Broken.

MOTORIZATION COMPONENTS:
>Send to India
The whole sledge thing makes me want to do the Crossmore, but we promised to help India and we definitely owe her for the capacitor.

HC, Blaster Launcher is the default stock VWES option?

If so, I vote for Shell Driver. We can always buy a weaker copy of Blaster Launcher.

Can we talk to India and Crankshaft and ask them where they think the parts will be more valuable before we commit them to a project?

>>1506828
>Blaster Shell: Stock VWES option. A high-powered explosive shell with long range. Slow rate of fire. 16 shots.

>>1506836
Sorry, mobile scum for the moment. That's the weapon I meant, the stock VWES, not the hardpoint.

I don't wanna vile mode. Also the punch looks strong and gives us more melee control.

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>>1503315
Vote:
>Blaster Launcher+Hardpoint installation
>Jetpack: Inline air intakes
>Get estimate on armor upgrades
>Get expert assessment on Misericorde upgrades

I think Shell Driver is the best option. Range and melee, charges capacitors and a gtfo button or immense knockback.

I think if we upgraded the misericorde too we'd have a nice one two where we could knife 'em, fuck with their armor, then falcon punch.

Also HC I reread the quest and you know a furrow isn't very deep, right?

In light of new information, changing >>1505312 to:

>Blaster Launcher
>Hardpoint Installation(30K)
>Inline Air Intakes (53K)
>Send to India

>>1503315
Ok, think I'm ready to vote.
>Shell Driver
More possible maneuverability along with increasing utility is too good to pass up, even if I'm turning my back on Vile mode for now ;_;

> Increased Phase Margin (47K)

>Blackout Rocket: Blowpast (42K)
I can see these becoming obsolete soon, and we need em.

>Send to India
We owe it to her.

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>>1503433
>Specifically, Mortarphant used a lot of missiles. Would anything in the recovered DNA be viable as a sort of missile/torpedo weapon? We have a couple water missions in our future, and if we get dunked, I'd think artillery won't be quite as useful as something self-propelled.

I managed to miss this question entirely. It's not out of the question, you'd just need to adapt the projectile type.

That said, I'm trying to tally up votes now. God help me.

>>1507256
It might help to post each seperate voting set as a different post EG: one post for weapon, one post for -various other upgrades-, one post for where the parts should go.

I'd think it would at least make the organization easier.

>>1506518
sabomole had to have been made with the phantom unit in mind from the start. His rather shitty situation couldn't happen without someone actively taking hostages.

>>1507256
Hahaha, good luck man. I keep getting the Shell Driver and Blaster Launcher names confused in my head, so I don't even trust myself to know what I voted for (it was the punchy one!).

>>1503523
>>1503526
ahah, that's why

>>1504280
the recap is missing the jump jet optimizations purchase

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>>1506518
State secret.
>>1507061
Yes, but it's long.

OKAY, tally is done. Good news is we actually had a clear winner on the main weapon, after all the vote changes. India pretty handily got the parts, too.

Bad news is there's enough close runners up on several items that I'm going to do a runoff. It'll be easier, though, without the Launcher/Driver option debate.

Stand by, I'll write up a post where you make your first selections, and then we'll get into the misericorde assessment and then do the actual second round of voting with all options on the table.

>>1507416
gonna need your comments on other VWES variations before runoff votes, though.

At least Blaster Shell is pretty definitely out. How much would the slaved data version be, though? Who cares if they aren't as good at aiming if they just use REALLY big guns?

>>1507427
We beat the elephant because her aim sucked. And we cannot tank explosions like she could.

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>>1507427
Slaved Blaster Shell for the Berets would be 50,000 for 2 shots. It's a big gun.

And stand by, next post going up.

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>>1503315
That shoulder cannon is pretty tempting, and you feel like you’re going to get one eventually, one way or the other, but that Shell Driver is just too useful not to take. You also decide to send the parts for rebuilding the Crossmore over to India, instead--they should come in handy for her jet project, and you owe her one for replacing your capacitor.

You’re undecided on a few issues with throwing your money around when the door hisses open and Em breezes through it. He actually looks about as surprised as you for a second.

“Hey,” he finally says, breezing past and sitting down at a terminal in the back.

“So everyone’s gone, huh?” you ask.

“More or less.”

“Been to the new barracks?”

“Yeah.”

He’s being pretty close-lipped. “...Came here to get away?” You hazard.

He cranes over one shoulder to look at you, before turning back to his work. “Yeah.”

Em doesn’t speak further for an uncomfortably long time, tapping away on whatever he’s working on, and you’re just contemplating what to say next when he finally speaks up. “Close call?”

You chuckle darkly. “Yeah.”

He nods. “Figured. You were gone a long time.”

“Armor became an innie for a while too, that was fun,” you add.

“It’s not great, is it?” Em asks. You don’t particularly feel you have to answer. The feeling of helplessness against a straight outclass maverick, the hours of waiting to die… On at least some level, you get Em and his damage a little better now.

“Knife came in handy,” you offer. That gets his attention, as you fish it out and examine the misericorde hilt. “Cut open her armor, and she nuked herself.”

He snorts. “Nice. Glad it does the job, at least.”

“Think we could do anything with it?” you ask.

He spins around in his chair. “Yeah, actually. It’s been pissing me off since I made it, never been happy with that piece of shit. Lemme see?”

You toss it over to him and he inspects the weapon with a visible grimace. “Fuckin’ thing. Okay, so, I’ve been thinking, and here’s the problem.” He gestures with the hilt, tapping it against his palm. “I built you a can opener out of a katana handle and a wizard staff.” You can’t help but laugh at that, and dour mood or not, even Em grins. “Yeah. And, so, okay, it’s a specialist tool, and it does what it’s supposed to. I could make it better at that, improve the LN so you can use it more, but… it’s never gonna be any better than this.”

You nod--it really is good for what it does, but you consider your odds of hitting, say, Collide with it, which means getting in past his guard, something you’ve always had trouble with, even before considering how wieldy (or not) the tool is. “So what else could we do?”

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>>1507813
“I could inline some of the parts, extend out the hilt a little bit, make a real knife out of it. No loss to what it does, but it’d function a hell of a lot better as a melee weapon. Pretty good one, too,” he adds, igniting the hibeam and rolling it once for emphasis. “Orrr…”

“Or?”

“Or we could throw out the LN bullshit entirely and just keep the regulation I built with it,” he says. “We could go to a cryomer system--bigger, but a lot less fussy. It’d probably halve the AP.”

“Ouch.”

“Yeah, but here’s the thing--it’d work as a beam blade, it’d be a lot easier to play with, and it’d put more of its weight on the ice systems. They’d last for a while, too, so no more one-and-done bullshit.”

You mull that over--you remember half the reason you made the damn thing is because your systems don’t play nice with cryonics.

“And,” he adds, “I could make you a different weapon out of it. Would have to expand the hilt a little anyway for the cryomer. I was thinking like a smallsword or something.”

All of those sound like they could be pretty useful. “How much?”

He shrugs. “I don’t give a shit, don’t worry about it.”

RUNOFF UPGRADE VOTE: THE UPGRADE VOTENING

>Locked selections: Shell Driver, Motorization Components

MISERICORDE: Thanks to Emerald, this will be free of charge. Choose one:
-Improved AP: While doing nothing to resolve volatility or ergonomics, this will make the misericorde even more effective at piercing heavy armor.
-Inlined Components: By redesigning the weapon, this will allow the knife to function as an effective melee weapon without compromising the effectiveness of the AP properties when the reservoir is available.
-Cryomer Rebuild: By changing the payload to cryomer, this will produce a more dedicated “ice element” weapon. It will work as an effective melee weapon as well, but at the cost of some of its armor-piercing capability. The weapon can be modified into any edged melee weapon on creation (specify).

TUMULT SHELL: Snapper (45,000)
JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)
LOCKON HUNTER: Recalibration (33,000)
SHIELDING: Increased Phase Margin (47,000), Thermal Diffusion Algorithm (42,000)

For now, your voting is between these options. You have Z100,003 to spare.

Now go! Fight and die for my amusement!

If we do the cryomer rebuild, we gotta do it into something that's got good armor piercing ergonomics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseman%27s_pick

Let's make an ice pick.

>>1507816
-Improved AP
-JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)
-LOCKON HUNTER: Recalibration (33,000)

>>1507816
>Improved AP
>Snapper
>Thermal Diffusion

>>1507816
>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper (45,000)
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)
-Inlined Components: By redesigning the weapon, this will allow the knife to function as an effective melee weapon without compromising the effectiveness of the AP properties when the reservoir is available.
Being able to properly hit with the thing beats raw AP for me. That improved finesse and some training could allow us to really put the hurt on vital spots.

Honestly not really convinced on misercorde yet, so just gonna place my vote for the other stuff first.

>Snapper
>Air intakes

And see how discussion goes on the knife

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>>1507409
I didn't put it in because I didn't see it -- and reviewing the Sabomole upgrade thread, I still don't. And yet HC remembered that we got them, so... something's not connecting.

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>>1507876
I'm going to have to go back and take another look, aren't I.

>>1507880
What's throwing me is that optimizations weren't even offered at that point. Just Red/Blueshift.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/704030/#p704488

>>1507816
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)
>SHIELDING: Increased Phase Margin (47,000)

More mobility, more shield i-frames. Save upgrading our energy-weapons/defenses until after we find out what Foxfire means by energy weapon defenses "turning a corner". No blind turns.

>-Cryomer Rebuild: By changing the payload to cryomer, this will produce a more dedicated “ice element” weapon.
I was leaning towards inlined components, but a literal Ice Pick is such an awfully horrible pun I can't NOT vote for it:
>>1507837

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/704030/#p713602


>You have ordered:
Backup battery replacement, jump jet optimization, another set of slave circuits ordered (other options it presented will be available for 75k apiece after this), but you will not have Blueshift until the parts can be delivered and installed, which will take a mission.

>>1507880
>>1507876
It was mentioned though and bought here
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/704030/#p713602

Oh, weird, snapper was 35k last time it was offered.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/704030/#p712167

10k is added on that upgrades general stats due to march of technology?

>>1507816
>Cryomer Rebuild: By changing the payload to cryomer, this will produce a more dedicated “ice element” weapon. It will work as an effective melee weapon as well, but at the cost of some of its armor-piercing capability. The weapon can be modified into any edged melee weapon on creation
short sword might work here. I mean our lance is great in all but if we're up against an enemy that just loves to get close enough for hugs I feel a simple blade will work better. Also the shell driver has some AP capabilities as well sing how it's literally a rocket fist. If we can combine it with our lance punch (or whatever the fuck it's called) I'm sure that could get through almost anything.

also
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)

>>1507913
That might be a typo, then.

Man, fuck everything today, I need more coffee. Let's go ahead and price it at 35.

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>>1507816
MISERICORDE:
>Inlined Components
Still technically icy, but more importantly it'll be a reliable sidearm. Which is a thing we don't have.

OTHER:
>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper
At least two of our remaining four Mavericks seem to use energy weapons, so this will be helpful. Plus, without the cost of a hardpoint, this still lets us save zenny for the armor rebuild.

>>1507897
>>1507901
Huh. I must have registered "jump jet optimization" as just a synonym for Blueshift. I'll adjust once all the voting here is done.

>>1507816
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes
>LOCKON HUNTER: Recalibration
>Inlined Components

Im assuming this stabilizes enough for underwater use?

If so, this is the way to go. We aren't Emerald, we don't need to emulate his swordness.

>>1507837
A literal oneshot ice pick for our guys might not be a bad idea.

>>1507816
>Inlined Components:
>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper (45,000)
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)

>>1507816

Misericorde
>Improved AP
Tumult Shell
>Snapper
Shielding
>Thermal Diffusion

>>1507816
Fuck, no shoulder cannon. Oh well.

>Cryomer Rebuild->Ice-elemental smallsword
>Inline Air Intakes(53K)
>Lockon Hunter Recalibration(33K)

More speed, the Hunter is a standby we should hang onto, and I'd like to move into a more true ice weapon Anode could have in reserve.

>>1507816
>Improved AP
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes
>LOCKON HUNTER: Recalibration

Operation: Cheer Em Up a go?

>>1507982
Heretic, change your ways now to the one True Path of PAWNCH or be forever damned to be lame.

>>1507816
>Cryomer Rebuild, keep it as a knife
>Inline Air Intakes
>Increased Phase Margin

>>1507994
Hey now, there's nothing wrong with getting in touch with your inner Vile.

Besides who's to say that we will never wind up getting a shoulder hardpoint later to maximize Rockout potential?

>>1507816
>Inlined Components
>Increased Phase Margin

>>1508054
Who cares when we can punch people into orbit?

>>1508068
Its not like I said you're point isn't valid salad, mate, just that shoulder cannons are still rad.

>>1508079
But it will ruin our punching form, my friend. That simply won't do.

>>1507816
I'm so tempted to get the intakes and phase just so we literally have 3 zenny to our name. But really:
>Improved AP
>Snapper

Save the rest.

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>>1508167
Not for nothing, a beer at the Dodo will run you about 3Z...

>>1507816
Cryomer Rebuild
Inline Air Intakes

Misericorde: Inlined Components. Make it a better weapon while maintaining its specialist status.

Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithim. This'll just be handy, I think.

Tumult Shell: Snapper. I think that when we come to Atlantica we're gonna want this to be current.

Ask Em if he wants to come with us to give our sister our birthday present. He did most of the actual work, it's only fair. Apologize for pulling the shotgun-polishing on the porch routine with him too, maybe. Not that it wasn't fun to put the fear of big bro into him.

>>1507925
Cool! We already liked snapper as an option before the runoff, and now we get everything we liked before AND 10k zenny on top of that.

>>1507837
Dammit I wanted the inlined components but your idea is so much better

>>1507962
It wouldn't be oneshot, since you'd be doing the cryomer rebuild to get it.

>>1507816
-Inlined Components
Howevere, if we WERE going to redesign the blade, I'ds say go for a style to assisst with just getting it in there. My money would go down on a Push dagger or Trench knife style one.

-TUMULT SHELL: Snapper
-SHIELDING: Increased Phase Margin

I think were getting better at getting in peoples faces and staying a threat, so, these choices should help.

>>1507816

> Cryomer Rebuild [Roundel dagger]
> Lockon Hunter: Recalibration
> Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithm

>>1507816
Hey, just thought of this, but did we use our Emergency Battery last mission? 'Cause we should buy a new one if we did.

>>1508442
Nope, I don't believe you did.

...then again, I'm like 0 for 2 on those, so by all means, go back and check.

>>1507816
No matter what gets voted, can Anode "wonder" out loud if Em's name might be spoke about alongside Wayland and Masamune?

>>1508442
Don't think so. So much kinetic energy was being thrown around that we didn't need to use it.

>>1508195
>Misericorde: Inlined Components.

Armor piercing is half the reason we use it.

How much for an ice lance specialised weapon?

>Shielding: Thermal Diffusion Algorithim.

Way too many enemies with fire.

Tumult Shell: Snapper.

Yes.

Get Em to train us more.

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>>1508543
>How much for an ice lance specialised weapon?
A lot.

We didn't use the battery last mission.

The thread consensus last time we voted was going mortarphant->yamatoad, followed by atlantica. Since those are gonna be naval/underwater battles, we don't have to worry as much about anti-fire countermeasures.

Actually, since they're in water environments, HC, would all 3 upgrades let us use the misercorde underwater, or just some of them?

>>1508546
Is that or better armor then? How about an ice knife build from zero instead of recycling? If we used a better sword as a base it should improve the weapon, right?

I think that instead of going straight to a Mav, we should scope out some of that background stuff.

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>>1508551
>>1508557
Cryomer has known boosts underwater, but mastering how the weapon behaves underwater is its own beast.

Short version: Improved AP is not usable in water, cryomer weapon has boosts with a caveat, and inlined components will work in water safely.

>>1508557
Not really--you already have a very serviceable weapon in the knife as built. Em offering to make it a dedicated cryomer weapon is basically what you're voting for.

Also, boss vote will be held as per usual, because there's some additional intel coming up that may affect that decision.

>>1508577
If we face yet another phantom we are screwed.

>>1508543
>Get Em to train us more.
Always a good idea, but we should also try to spar with Templar or find some big bruiser from the 14th so we can work on our fighting huge guys strategies

>>1507839 here
Changing
>Imprioved AP
to
>Inlined Components

>>1503315
>-Tension Coil: Charge Capacity (50K), Wire Reclaim (50K), Fast Zipline (35K), Improved Conductivity (25K), Nonlethalized Braid (25K)
>Nonlethalized Braid (25K)

I thought we'd gotten a non-lethal option for the coil right after the avalanche-causing spider-guy mission? After he killed himself on our coils, we made them less lethal and more able to capture.

>>1507816
>-Inlined Components: By redesigning the weapon, this will allow the knife to function as an effective melee weapon without compromising the effectiveness of the AP properties when the reservoir is available.

Is this a "you can do the really-armor-piercing stab once, and then use it as a normal weapon" thing? Or a "mwahahahaha now you can stab all you want!" thing?

As for actual upgrade votes, voting for this so far:

>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper (45,000)
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)

>>1508688
You did not.

Inlined components, the weapon functions identically to how it does now (one-and-done, usually), but it's also actually usable as a melee weapon.

>>Inlined Components
>>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper (45,000)
>>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)

>>1508613
>>1508543
>get Em to train us more
I was thking we could Tag team some sims so he can give us pointers and we can get close to real combat experiences without needing to get repaired again

>>1508709
I thought it was already usable as a melee weapon? I'm 99% sure it was said it works as a normal, if somewhat subpar, hibeam knife after the LN's gone.
Or do you mean usable without blowing the LN charge on the first shanking?

>>1508755
It's usable, but 1: the cumbersome cryo-tech makes it really unwieldy, and 2: Anode isn't really very skilled at melee. Combining the two, it doesn't go well for you trying to actually hit someone with it. Inlining the components gives it all the ergonomics of a proper fighting knife.

>>1507984
Changing misericorde upgrade to inlined components.

>>1507816
>MISERICORDE: Inlined components

>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes
>TUMULT SHELL: Snapper

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Pretty clear majority wins, here. I'll write in a little bit, this weekend is continuing to dump on me.

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A bit off topic, but... HOW ABOUT THAT CHOGOKIN GIGA ARMOR X FIGURE, HUH?

I know it's highly likely that it's not gonna be canon AT ALL, but just look at this Wing Zero-esque craziness. I love it.

>>1509593
What makes it better is that the armor combines with a red dog mechaniloid to form a ride chaser.

>>1509659
There's also a Giga Mission Carddass series to go with this madness. So that'll be fun.

Also, if X is getting crazy cool likely non-canon armor, that probably means Zero and maybe Axl, depending on how far in the timeline this takes place will get some cool looking not!Gundam armor of their own too.

>>1508731
Yes, and we could also try all the fighting sims we can on our own.

>>1507816
>-Inlined Components
>JUMP JET: Inline Air Intakes (53,000)
>T. Coil: Improved Conductivity

I still think we should upgrade T. Coil over Lockon and Tumult. Tumult because I don't think snapper is enough of an upgrade, and Lockon because we can wait until we get more actual laser DNA before upgrading.

We won't need the charged version of T.Coil any time soon if we're getting Shell Driver, but there's nothing wrong with just improving how it plays with our regular setup.

>>1509897
Tumult was just DEGRADED, if we don't upgrade it we won't be able to use it well next mission.

***S. FOXFIRE: So wubsy, word is energy weapons defense are about to turn a corner. That turtle-thingy may not be long for this world... (March of technology: Tumult Shell is losing effectiveness)***

>>1509942
even considering that. Can't we make it expand in-transit or something, or just wait one mission to hybridize it with Yamato DNA for an S-grade defensive VWES?

>>1509981
We might not survive the next mission if we go cheap on defence.

>>1510009
>we go cheap on defence
We are still primarily a defensive reploid. Particularly for guys like Collide, what saved us was our offensive abilities.

Tumult is losing effectiveness because energy weapons are getting better. Guess what still works against energy? The phase lance.

>>1510009
Our defense is rooted in our mobility, and we have plenty of that. Our weak-point is currently our offensive ability; it takes too long to wear our targets down, thus mitigating our defense/agility advantage.

>>1510040
And yet this gives our defense offense as well. Our offense has also been amped up with thewrenades and our Shriver driver combo.

>>1510040
Mobility does shit against mass bombarment.

>>1510083
you mean the mobility that got us to Mortarphant's doorstep?

I just want to point out that we don't have a lot of ways to use capacitor charge at range. Besides raikousen dumping, we need to be in close range. The insta-charge buster cycling doesn't sound like it's enough burst unless we also grab the next buster charge level, and that's hella expensive.

T. Coils are comparatively cheaper, and we can just keep hooking and shocking available charge.

>>1510111
You remember that it was more that she came looking for us because she got angry and we did expend hours inside a cave hidding from the bombing, right?