>>1522051
And so it begins anew!

Time to rip a dude's head off.

>>1522051
Ey, Wong. Just as a heads up but my schedule changed this week. Now I'm off Friday and Saturday.

>>1522111

I'll get you in on Friday, then. Now if only I can remember the other matchups...

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“...So that's what happened.” You finish filling the three SOUL C pilots in, as Brunhilde serves them each a cold beer in the comfort of the Rhinehawk's bar.

“You really had no way of stopping him?” The one with the purple-dyed hair, apparently a relative of the Jovian Planetary Chairman and easily the most tempting to kidnap for ransom, sips his drink and nods approvingly.

You nod firmly, “I wanted to, at first, but after he broke out of the ship he convinced me to let him go. It would be hypocritical for me to stop him from going into peril to save the woman he loves at this point, considering what I did on Mars.”

The big one who looks like he could indeed beat up a Paladin frowns, “The Martians are civilized, the Avalonians are enemies of all mankind. I saw firsthand what they did on Qu'lir.”

“Almost everyone is an enemy to space pirates.” You correct him sharply, “If I was caught somehow, do you think I wouldn't have been arrested? In a way, I owe General Fairchild...and believe me, that's incredibly painful to say. If she hadn't turned on Commodore Abujamal and made me look good by comparison, I'd still be a villain in their eyes.”

“I hear they feed criminals to the sandworms on Mars.” The third pilot, the shy, stuttery one with the largest mech comments.

“That's not actually true.” Samantha corrects him. Samantha and Clemmy have been uncharacteristically not hostile towards each other, both too busy preening at their own victory. Right now, one is on either side of you, snuggling against your shoulders. It's certainly good for your ego, “Sandworms are a pest animal, they don't want to encourage them to come near settlements by feeding them.”

“Whose idea were sandworms, anyway?” The purple-haired boy, Garret, questions.

The big one, Amos, with the Major's insignia on his uniform, shrugs, “The Green Men.”

“Of fucking course.” Garret grumbles, and the three let out a well-rehearsed sigh. Qu'lir must have been rough on them.

[Continued]

>>1522158
I dunno, they would have been pretty OK on a planet dedicated to RPing Tremors.

>>1522051
Time for the best part of the week!
Kestrels Awaken

>>1522183
>Tremors

Patrician taste.

>>1522217
Intentionally stupid and campy movies are my fetish.

>>1522217

The fact that it completely validated a /k/ approach to giant monsters made it 10/10.

Hmmm...you know what? 1d10+15, Cool+Fast Talk & Persuasion. You may add luck if you like.

Rolled 2 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
2 luck

Rolled 4 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
Add a point of luck, why not

Rolled 7 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
I forget, does anyone know if maneuver only be used in combat encounters, or all kinds of encounters?

Rolled 4 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
2 luck

Rolled 7 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
2 luck

>>1522265
You mean maneuver pool? It's derived from Mecha Piloting and is quite explicitly for mecha combat.

Rolled 6 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255
Oh boy, we're back, and kinda screwy with rolls

Rolled 7 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>1522255

>>1522395
>This isn't a homodrama
Sam says otherwise
Also they might want to check themselves a bit if they want to talk to us about bad ideas after their shambles of a plan.

>>1522395
>homodrama

So.

Naomi has a D

>>1522395
>>[Truth]
Eh considering our reputation everyone pretty much knows how we do it.

>>1522395
>>[Truth]

>>1522395
>[Truth]

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“Anyway, as I was saying, I understand wanting to help him, but if you go about it that way the Avalonians will just get suspicious of his identity. If they find out who he is, no matter how they react it won't be good for him, right?” You don't mention that you don't intend to let either of the kids get within arm's reach of Fairchild ever again, they don't need to hear that right now. You spread your arms wide. “Save him, if you like, but do it after he has Naomi back.”

The three of them trade glances. The Major frowns, “...What's in it for you?”

You shrug, “I hate sad endings, don't you?”

He looks even more suspicious, “We won't do anything that puts him in danger, and we want him to get his girlfriend back, obviously...but this whole thing is a bad idea. This isn't a comic book or a holodrama, just believing in your friends alone isn't enough to make sure you win. We have to think logically and remember just what Avalon is capable of. Admiral Starwind, for now we'll stay quiet, but if we see an opportunity to rescue him, a clean one...”

You hold your hand up to forestall him, “I get it, you'll do what you have to do. I don't have the right to blame you for that.” Inwardly, you were hoping to do better, it's nice to meet more SOUL members who seem to dislike General Fairchild. “Let's just enjoy our beer.”

The Major nods, “If I may ask, sir, how are you keeping the Paladin in your custody contained? We have some experience with this matter, on Qu'lir a number of new security measures were designed to keep unauthorized personnel out of the brig.”

“Amos, please, you sound like we're planning to snatch her.” Garret grumbles. “Refill, please.” He slides his empty glass expertly over to Brunhilde, who catches it deftly.

“Honestly, I'm a little surprised that General of yours hasn't tried that already.” You remark, “It would be an extremely foolish idea, on any count.”

“You'd die.” Clemmy informs them.

Samantha nods, “You'd definitely get killed.”

>[Lie]
>[Truth]

>>1522447
>>[Truth]

>>1522447
>[Truth]
They might need to see that Avalonians != Greenman.

>>1522395
>homodrama
Kek

>>1522447
>[Truth]
Roarke is personally "guarding" her.

>>1522447
>>[Lie]

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>>1522208
You must SCREAM IT! With your KOKORO! LIKE A TRUE BUSHI!

AWAKEN MY KESTRELS!

>>1522395
Ahhh well. Would have liked to poke that a bit more and tried for a small speech, but it'd likely have been a hard sell anyways. As for the big question, we can likely be honest to some degree, just no 'I sleep with the Paladin.'.
Really, explain it how we do just about everything else. We don't treat them badly, listen to them, and tend to be strong enough to handle most issues if they arise. Then it just sort of progresses.
In the end, we hate the Green Lady, but Avalonians are give or take. If they are decent, no reason why we shouldn't be fair. Doesn't mean we don't take precautions with them though.

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>>1522395
>This isn't a comic book or a homodrama
>homodrama

Oh my...

Yep, no homodramas here, right guys?

>>1522447
>[Truth]
You don't need to worry about keeping them from escaping if make them don't want to escape.

>>1522447
[Truth]

Might as well be honest.

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“Well, about that.” You cough into your fist, “When you say 'contained'...I mean, that's a very broad term.” You look at Clemmy and Samantha.

They smile sweetly back without a single drop of sympathy, “Go on, Roarke, we'll let you tell them all about your security arrangements.” Samantha radiates sweet, pure innocence.

“Yes, let them hear just how seriously you're taking the threat of an Avalonian commander. These boys are veterans at that, you know...although you did it solo so you're still the best, Roarkey.” Clemmy kisses your cheek, with a much less innocent smirk.

“I'm guarding her personally.” You adjust your shades.

“Ah, it's g-good to be a little paranoid.” The shy one of the trio, Simon, nods and smiles, “T-they're really dangerous. Lucas Ford shot a battleship's main cannon t-through his own troops at us.”

“That doesn't sound like something Loriette would do.” You remark.

Garret rubs his chin, “Completely unflappable, as expected of the legendary Pirate Admiral. So, electrified cage? Stasis pod? How are you doing it? Amos' Irina and my girl Marilyn rigged up a cell built to hold dangerous animals for Carnegie.”

“That's a bit excessive, isn't it?” You try to deflect, deciding you won't lie to them, “She's honor-bound to stay with me until ransomed back, after all?”

“Not to the Avalonians, certainly. As a prisoner, she's lost a lot of value thanks to...us...really...but she's still worth a lot of credits, maybe even some kind of letters of marque or more colonies or something. You're not giving her back to Avalon, are you?” Garret looks alarmed.

Amos is just...watching you. His eyes narrow slightly, “Is she even in a cell, sir?”

You adjust your shades again, “Imprisonment is more like a state of mind. I have complete confidence she isn't going to escape, and while turning her over to Avalon is far down my list of preferred scenarios I can't rule anything out at this point.” You're going to say more, but are abruptly interrupted.

[Continued]

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>>1522051
Don't worry everyone, I'm here.

>>1522566
Here he comes to praise the day!

>>1522566
Good, I was almost worried for a second.

So, how are you today, kouhai? Is everything bright and shiny for you?

>>1522551
>Imprisonment is more like a state of mind
Kek

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>>1522551
>You're going to say more, but are abruptly interrupted.
Its... Its Lori, isn't it?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>1522584
>Red and Lori burst in totally sloshed

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>>1522551
Oh man, this is gonna be great.

>Imprisonment is more like a state of mind

Nice.

>>1522566
their view of us is rather stilted wouldn't you say?

>>1522577
hello and good night to everybody

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“MON ROWAAAAAARC!” Loriette's voice rings out stridently, “I am tres bored and tired of being cooped up on le Rhinehawk! Come! Let us go explore le colony some more!” She flounces over, “I am willing to take le risk of running into mon cousin and le zhirty-eighth attempt on mon life, c'est worth it!” Pouting, she throws her arms around your neck from behind.

Samantha and Clemmy give her simultaneous baleful glares while the three SOUL members just...stare at you in shock and horror.

“Maybe you should introduce her, Rowarc?” Clemmy grins like a tigress.

“Oui, petit peasant boy, ohohoho~” Samantha flutters her eyelashes.

Loriette finally deigns to notice your company. You see her noticing their UJCIDF uniforms, plus Clemmy, plus Samantha. Her eyes narrow in annoyance, “Faugh. Per'aps I am rescuing you, mon Rowarc? Come away, let these gas knights converse, they do not deserve your conversation.”

“No!” Clemmy grips your arm tighter.

“We earned him!” Samantha insists, siding with the Butcher for once and hugging more tightly against you too, “A proper lady wouldn't interrupt!”

“Jove. Damn. It.” Garret covers his mouth with a hand.

“The legends really are true.” Simon sounds awestruck.

“...And there goes the Belt.” Amos facepalms.

"Eh? Non, that goes off later, non?" Loriette looks a little confused. "Zat is not a zing we do in public on Avalon."

[Continued]

>>1522685
>"Eh? Non, that goes off later, non?" Loriette looks a little confused. "Zat is not a zing we do in public on Avalon."

A best

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>>1522685
>“...And there goes the Belt.” Amos facepalms.

>"Eh? Non, that goes off later, non?" Loriette looks a little confused. "Zat is not a zing we do in public on Avalon."

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>>1522685
>"Eh? Non, that goes off later, non?" Loriette looks a little confused. "Zat is not a zing we do in public on Avalon."

>>1522692
I almost spit my beer.

>>1522684
VICTOR-KYUUUUUUUN~S2!
I missed you! How are you doing?

>>1522685>>1522716
I almost spit my food.

The legends are always true.

And now Lori is going to meet the Blue Knight... The man who deafeated her master in combat...

Hmmmm, this keep getting better.

>>1522685
And a proper reaction of Simon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3byg_PzS0

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>>1522577
The air is chilly but the sun shines clear giving life and warmth

>>1522679
They have good reason this quest has never been black and white, just shades of grey, fifty shades of grey

>>1522781
It doesn't help that the trio has been through hell. They have seen two of the worst paladins when it comes to being personable and their greenman experience is worse than ours.

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“Jove. Damn. It!” Garret repeats, dropping his face into his hands.

Amos seems to have momentarily forgotten how to speak, just shaking his head silently.

“Wow. He really is Roarke Starwind.” Simon, by contrast, sounds a bit awestruck and admiring. At least someone appreciates you.

“I was last time I checked.” You respond wryly, keeping your cool despite the uncanny sensation that you're holding three cats each on the verge of shredding your arms in order to attack the other two. You can practically feel Clemmy bristling, and Samantha's smile is a little two sweet. Loriette isn't innocent either, she's definitely trying to provoke them by pressing her chest against the back of your head like this.

“That's a really novel way to keep a prisoner.” Amos finally remarks, awkwardly.

“A pity you couldn't keep the Berenger Duchess that way, eh?” Garret nudges his friend, grinning.

Loriette's arms tense around your shoulders, not quite choking you, “So it is you.” She hisses, “Le Chevalier Azul. I zought le face was familiar.” She points dramatically, “Were I not forsworn, I swear, I would challenge you 'ere and now!”

Samantha frowns, “Why can't you duel him? I'd like to see it.”

Loriette pouts, “Mon Rowarc would be upset, and besides, zis peasant wench shall be le first if I am permitted.” She glares at Clemmy.

“A~n~y~time~!” Clemmy's voice is cute, practically a bleat, infused with giggly anger.

Your PC rings and with unashamed joy in your heart at being able to escape this situation you snatch it up, noting the contact icon as you bring it to your ear, “Karen, I love you.” You tell her sincerely.

“I love you more, but right now we have a situation!” There's a metallic crash in the background, “No, we have an emergency!” You hear the overworked mechanic girl swearing at someone.

[Continued in an hour so Wong can eat]

>>1522817
A pity.... I want to see them dueling...

>>1522826
just throw them both a childrens card game

>>1522817
It's all fun and games....

>"...we have an emergency"

I hope that isn't horrible.

>>1522827
On bikes? Or on mechs?

>>1522817
Ah man.. did she install the Kaiser with that bud? Is it waking up and wondering why it isn't hearing freddy mercury?

>>1522817
Sounds like Amos's ride is here and she saw what happened to her masterpieces

>>1522833
Boy if that's the case we're fucked if anyone figures out what we're doing.

>>1522833
It might be Irina. She's gnarly.

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>>1522833
I hope that it isn't Akai's fault...

>>1522836
Or Not!Shinji's pseudo Paladin has gone on a rampage after Karen repaired it

Did Wong fall into the void?

>>1523078
The void of his stomach

>>1523083
there is no end

>>1523078

Just technical difficulties, and I rewrote something after realizing I'd nearly let a golden opportunity slip.

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“Stay calm, tell me everything.” You disentangle yourself quickly, and leave the bar in a hurry, having to strain to escape the tar pit of feminine arms grasping at you.

“It's the SOUL mecha. As soon as we cracked the outer armor open to have a look, these transmitters inside sent out a signal and...HEY! Get away from that! Don't you dare read my notes!” You hear outraged squawking, and then the sound of Karen's PC being dropped. Much to your surprise as you charge down the hall, the SOUL pilots are following you.

Inside the mechbay is a scene of chaos. Aligned along one wall, pouring out of a few rented shovels, are a few dozen UJCIDF MPs in ballistic armor, facing off reluctantly with a much larger group of less-equipped Kestrel mechanics and pirates brandishing a motley assortment of tools and weapons. At their lead is a shrieking woman with shoulder-length blonde hair and vaguely familiar features, wearing sunglasses and a white labcoat, yelling at Karen. The two women are both holding autowrenches and clearly on the verge of hitting each other with them. A few mechanics are trying to hold Karen back, and a woman with dark skin and...much to your surprise...feline ears and tail is trying to stop the blonde from hitting your mechanic.

“UNACCEPTABLE!” The blonde roars, “How dare you try to steal more of our designs!? Take your hands off my precious babies!” She shoves Karen with the autowrench.

Karen shoves her back, sparks practically lighting off the crossed tools as the two women strain against each other, “As if I'd need to! My Roarke's mech could beat them all at once, I wouldn't glean more than a few improvements!”

The blonde's face goes icy, then she howls like a blizzard, “SO IT'S YOU! YOU'RE THE ONE! YOU SMUG LITTLE BITCH, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE ALL THOSE POSTS ON GYCHAN! DID YOU THINK YOUR SHITPOSTING WOULDN'T COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU!?”

“Y-YOU CAN'T HURT SOMEONE FOR WHAT THEY POST ON THE HOLONET! BESIDES, THIS IS MY MECHBAY, GET OUT!” Karen stomps her foot, displaying a vein of brattiness she rarely expresses anymore.

“Oh Jove, Irina's lost it.” Amos murmurs in a despairing voice, “You shouldn't have let them meet.”

“Oh?” You think for a moment, then perk up, remembering, “Oh, my future sister-in-law.”

[Continued]

>>1523127
>“Oh, my future sister-in-law.”

PANIC

>>1523127
>“SO IT'S YOU! YOU'RE THE ONE! YOU SMUG LITTLE BITCH, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE ALL THOSE POSTS ON GYCHAN! DID YOU THINK YOUR SHITPOSTING WOULDN'T COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU!?”

Kinda reminds of GTAV for some reason.

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>>1523127
It's happening!

>>1523127
Heard of dueling banjos, but this is the first time I've seen dueling wrenches.

>>1523147
Should see dueling pianos at a burlesque club.

>>1523127
It's Glorious
Absolutely Glorious

>>1523149
My town isn't classy enough for that, sadly.

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>>1523127
>Amos now knows Roarke is going to be his brother in law
>Amos's children and Roarke's children will be cousins.

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>>1523172
Honestly, there is only one person I can think of who could be Amos' child after all this.

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>>1523172
>>1523190
Nah, got a better one.

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Garret looks askance at you, “Sister-in-law? Wait, who...hey Amos, is Irina related to Lieutenant Farragut or something?”

Amos just shakes his head.

The two women glance at you for a moment, then back at each other. Then make a concerted effort to bash each other with the wrenches.

“My mechbay!”
“My mechs!”
“You're trying to embarrass me in front of my Roarke!”
“You ARE embarrassing me in front of MY Amos!”
“These are free repairs from a highly-qualified mecha ARTISAN, you ungrateful bitch!”
“And you'll just study all my advanced systems a little while you're at it, right, you thieving slut!?”
“I'm just looking out for my boyfriend!”
“...and it doesn't hurt that once you've made that stolen mech even MORE powerful you'll claim all the credit and brag on the holonet, right!?”
“I deserve credit for being the best at what I do!”
“The best!? I'll show you best! I didn't get to steal other people's work you rapacious harridan! I actually earned my laurels!”
“Don't act like you're good enough to be my rival! You're just a side-character next to the feud between me and Red Siren!”

That last comment seems to strike home. You swear, for a moment, you see the human-scale equivalent of a Paladin's biocore coming online, every muscle in the blonde's body tensing as she surges forward, “SAY THAT AGAIN! I DARE YOU, SAY THAT AGAIN!” A female UJCIDF officer grabs her arm and tries to help the cat-eared woman hold the blonde back, but she still grabs Karen by the braid and pulls. Hard.

Karen stiffens, and with an outraged yelp drives her foot into the blonde's knee. One of the mechanics trying to hold Karen back slips, “Come here, I'll remodel your head servo with this wrench!” Karen howls in an admittedly not terribly intimidating tone, swinging wildly before Clemmy grabs her arms and Samantha grabs her legs, hauling her away from her taller opponent.

[Continued]

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>>1523190
And his sister who takes more after Aunt Rosita

>>1523200
Ah, redpilling on /m/ again?

>>1523200

Consarnit /k/, haven't lost my trip in a while.

>>1523203
Fighting a truly uphill battle.

>>1523207
May as well be trying to fly.

>>1523209
Don't know what it is about /m/ that attracts all the lefties and commies?

>>1523214
Anime worship?

>>1523214
Think there was this one bugger from the ol' controversy that was a real nutter and hard left. Constantly altered wikipedia to what he considered right. Ryuu something. Probably some of his flunkies.

>>1523227
Then it must be a trickle down thing, or they post a shit ton, because it sure seems like over all their left leaning.

>>1523214
Wish fulfilment, sci-fi, and over compensation with a giant metal mech.

>>1523232
>>1523234
/m/ is also pretty isolated all things considered. Hurts them hard when something worms in though.

>>1523214

It's not that bad, considering "muh Zeon" and the prevalence of red-blooded male protagonists. Now, /tg/ on the other hand, bit the lefty cookie HARD over the past few years. "Muh innocent orc babies", etc.

>>1523227
Ryulong. More autistic than clawshrimpy or elf-vore tripfag on /tg/. Camped the sentai and kamen rider wiki pages and stuck to the literal homonyms of Japanized English. Spilled his pasta due to gg and was exiled to rationalwiki. Then himself got banned for autisming against one of the other mods.

>>1523254
I mean, the BABIES are innocent.

The toddlers, thought, they're about as evil as you can get. I blame orc breast milk.

>>1523256
Ah yeah, Dragondragon! He got banned from Wikipedia proper too because of the shit he started there.Fun times, watching that.
>>1523254
>>1523260
I stand by the premise of 'doing what you can', but understand there are some situations where you are going to have to do something unappealing.

>>1523260
I blame warcraft 3 for this. Used to be Orcs were raping, despoiling monster bred and made to be cannon fodder. After Warcraft III, dindunuffins who are tree huggers and disney princesses on the side as well.

Man I wish Simon would tell us about how he Idolizes us so we could justify teaching him a little something about Hand to Hand combat.

>>1523272
How the hell do you start shit on Wikipedia?

>>1523282

And then we impart him secrets on making his girl scream.

>>1523286
That's something he can only learn on his own.

>>1523282
>Lesson one: Speech Counseling.
Why is that relevant? Can't talk shit while beating someone's ass if you're terrible at speaking.

>>1523282
Can't we just give Copycat McPanicPants an autograph and leave it at that

>>1523298
I like Simon, feels like he would make a good apprentice when we master the Void fist, only if he joined us though.

>>1523283
Editing everything he didn't like for starters, editing wars with people he didn't like, being a ass to some of the higher ups. It is a long list and it was a year or two back.

>>1523272
Mofo had more lives than a cat during Arbitration. When he was banned frn the wiki proper, mofo had his friend mod to police the wiki pages he camped.

>>1523304

The fact that wikipedia has "higher ups" and a "community" and "cultural bias" in its pages is one reason I'll never, ever, ever give them money.

>>1523304
Don't forget accusing every newcomer editor of being a Single Purpose Account. Which also exposed how fkin' asinine the Wiki proper had become.

>>1523318
Wikipedia just got bloated from its very successful fundraising. Most of their costs go into salary of the Wiki Foundation Staff, who as far as I can tell, do nothing as compared to the thousands of editors who help maintain the Wikipedia and keep it up-to-date barring a few autistic editors claiming ownership.

>>1523318
Why would you give money to someone when you are already getting their stuff for free?

>>1523318
The funny part was he was with the bias. It didn't help him in the end. Though, as >>1523309 said, they had to drag him out with a fight.
>>1523329
He was in deep with SJW clique and goons as well from what I heard.

>>1523333
T. Winrar user

>>1523336
The Great Shitstorm of 2014 redpilled alot of people on how shit Wikipedia's editing team is and how cliquish the entire thing had become.

let us move on from this topic. Only bad things may come from it.

>>1523337
How did you know!?

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Amos winces visibly at the Rosita comment, “That's a low blow.” He mutters to himself, worriedly, watching the two women try to reach each other, seemingly more intent on clawing the other's eyes out the further apart they're pulled.

“No, seriously, how is Irina his sister-in-law?” Garret demands to know quietly, then waves to the cat-eared girl, “Hey Mari! I'm okay! Did you come to rescue me?”

“You knyow it! Even if you don't need it, I'll always save you!” She smiles brilliantly at him, tail curling into a heart shape.

“I can sort of see it.” Simon shrugs, “I mean, there's a bit of a resemblance.”

“She's been avoiding her sister since we got here.” Amos admits to you quietly, “Even dove into some bushes once so she wouldn't have to talk to her.”

You wince in sympathy, “Let's do something stupid, then.”

He looks at you curiously, “You mean you want to...?”

You nod, “Get them together. They're family, it's only right.”

He cracks a big smile, and for the first time, eases up towards you a little, “I forget sometimes you had a brother.”

[Continued]

>>1523361

Damn it /k/.

>>1523361
>I forget sometimes you had a brother
>Flashbacks to Cassius
>Resist urge to kill Bethany
Stop pushing our rage button Amos.

>>1523361
Yay, bonding time, in what could end up as the most horrible family reunion ever in MSPQ's history.

>>1523361
Right in the feels.

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Your smile vanishes as you remember that Cassius' killer is on this damned colony, within reach of your fists. You could kill her tonight if you didn't care about the consequences, just walk up and spear-hand her in the throat. You know where the trachea is, you could pop her windpipe and watch her die slowly, panicking and fighting for air until the end. It frightens you a little how happy that mental image makes you.

“Sorry.” Amos scratches the back of his head, “That wasn't something I should have said, I'm not cut out for this diplomacy stuff.”

“I wouldn't respect you so much if you were.” You respond honestly, “No, you didn't do anything wrong. Let's see if we can get them together for dinner after the next round of the tournament.”

“Amos! We're going, and we're taking your mecha with us!” Irina has finally calmed down, red-faced and indignant as she straightens out her labcoat.

“Coming, dear!” Amos waves to her, then mentions to you, “Oh, by the way...Simon's a huge fan of yours, but he's too shy to say anything. So could you maybe...” His voice trails off.

You nod, and give him a thumbs-up. As the three SOUL pilots depart, you tap Simon on the shoulder, “That's an impressive beast of a mech you've got. Come spar with me sometime when you're here, I want you to meet my teacher. Maybe we'll have a few pointers for you.” It could bite you in the ass later, training up an enemy...but then again, maybe you're just helping a future friend.

His face lights up in a huge smile, and he grabs your hand, shaking it vigorously, “Th-th-th-thank you, Admiral sir! I'll be sure to do just that! Um, I've got to go, but really, thank you!” He gabbles, before running after his friends.

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You watch him go with a smile, noticing a frazzled, rumpled Karen stalking over to hide behind you and cautiously glare at Irina as she gets the mecha loaded up to take back to her own bay, “Don't scold me.” She grumbles.

“I wasn't going to.” You respond, you can't blame her for being protective of her mechbay, “They're nice kids, I'm glad I got to meet them, even if it wasn't under the best circumstances...why are you looking at me like that?” You glance down and see her smiling up at you, hugging your arm. “Don't tell me it's because I'm making more friends, I still might have to fight them again someday.”

Her smile widens, “No, Roarke, it's because I at least had time to do a complete structural and material analysis of the shield the blue one had, and I can't wait to tell you all about it.”

>>1523379
Bueno.

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>>1523374
>Step 2 of operation Soul C-section is completed
Excellent

>>1523377
Nice picture.

>>1523379
At least Karen still got something.

>>1523384
>>1523387

Things that the tourney arc unlocks for the Knuckle Kaiser:

>More Drones
>Permanent Booster Pack (maybe, I'm tempted to just have Pod-with-Booster Pack be something that gets slapped on as needed and can be removed with an action for Medium-weight and better mecha)
>Gamma Armor available
>Potentially that anti-range-attack shield, but to be honest you don't NEED it that badly and would be hard-pressed to find space for it

>>1523405
>>Gamma Armor available

unf

>>1523405
Mecha Booster Surfboards!

>>1523405
I'd go drones first, then either boosterpack/gamma armor. The anti-range attack shield...I'd save it for last unless people start carrying guns that can tear a hole in the Knuckle Kaiser.

>>1523412
I like the anti-range purely because it forces enemies to come into melee range if they want to damage us.

>>1523405
Well, drones would probably be first due to action economy.

>>1523405
>Gamma Armor available
can we get a rundown on this is this an improved officer shield or is this to do with metal parts of the mech

>>1523405
Well.. one idea I saw poked was a distributed shield like the Fin Funnels. Space economy could be salvaged some by making things like the active shield, grapple-chan, and some sub systems steam lined.
Still, Gamma armor itself is nice. We'd be blast proof and I'd laugh madly as Cabot tries to blast us with all the missiles again. Even more if she had more than one slayer drone.

>>1523405
>>Gamma Armor available
all the way

>>1523417

Make the fist drones out of gamma and they can fly about and act as shields as well?

>>1523422
the mad man

>>1523422
Maybe. One idea I had was having the drones use the largest servo category. Would make them slightly more expensive, but it'd boost their attack power, kills, armor, and dismembering potential.
Could also go to an energy shield design or upscale the body. We'd get more space one way, and cut down weight dramatically the other.

>>1523429
>having the drones use the largest servo category.

Now picture the KK with drones as big or larger than itself

>>1523431
>>1523429
>>1523422
y are we thinking aboutgoing with a drons unit?
fistingforlife

>>1523432
>Not having more fists to fist so that you can fist while you fist

>>1523431
Arms would be 18 meters long by Mekton core rules.

>>1523432
Action economy. Each drone basically gives a mech 1 extra action. It's why they're so OP. You probably saw how well it went for Clemmy.

>>1523429

If you start down that route the Kaiser would start taking up multiple spaces in the Rhinehawk's bay.


I feel like I played with energy shields once as an experiment. I forget the results besides "it cost a lot more and weighed a lot less".

>>1523431
we would probably need a larger core to charge the drones

>>1523435
Sounds good because getting our weight down is going to let us make use of our high roll bonuses.

>>1523432
>Not wanting giant drone fists to speed bag space ships with

>>1523435
Hey Wong it says energy shields damage mechs that come into contact with them for half their kills, is that just for when you attack with the shields or is that whenever something hits the shield?

>>1523442
>>1523439
>>1523434
>>1523433
just make them into fists
but i dont know howtobuild anythingjust here for the space jam
butfist as bug as us sound silly

>>1523449
The drones would be fists, yes. The ones Roarke has already are.

You're showing a real lack of ambition there though. Don't you want fists bigger than most mechs?

>>1523449
>he doesnt want to master hand people

>>1523449
But if you want to make them into the fists you're thinking about, they'd have to be attached to arms, which would be a lot more costly and not as efficient, since you would still only fist one person at melee range.

Adding fists to drones means that we can fist people at range AND fist someone multiple times. And if we're going the Big Bang Punch route, it'd be fun to see one big fist going on and hitting someone, kinda like this, except without Roarke turning into one big glowing fist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3PjpOtFxnw

>>1523435
53.5 cp to get it to fit one space with no active and being at the same sp level and DA as our old shield. However, the reduced weight refunds 9 CP. For replacing the standard, that'd be 26.5 cp.

>>1523449
>Not wanting to crush entire mechs in your giant robot hands

>>1523459
That a reactive shield or an attack-factor beam shield?

>>1523456
could just make it so that they can combine onto our fist and make a gig fist brake?
a fist to puch though the havens

>>1523463
Combination rules for mechs are black magic that no sane person can decipher.

>>1523465
i dont know any of the rules or anything

iwouldnt know

but you guys and try

You know, if the drones can dismember, a Mega Heavy drone could one shot Heavy Striker limbs while ignoring armor with a -2 attack.

>>1523465
IIRC the combined weapon cost 1.5 times what it did, and the combining weapons have to equal the pre-multiplier cost. So you could have a huge beam gun made up of 2 smaller beam guns, or a bunch of tiny beam guns.

>>1523471
Combination weapons are fine, combination mechs arent even that bad up until you try to figure out how damage is allocated.

>>1523463
That would be costly as fuck in this system, not to mention >>1523465

Also, obligatory >Why not both?

https://youtu.be/H7W8BZkxRbY?t=3m16s

>>1523471
It'd be pretty costly, enough for the Knuckle Kaiser to break that 400 CP limit if Wong wants to keep it there.

Again, drones are more cost effective. Just think of it as tons of rocket punches.

>>1523448

I'm going to say when you attack with the shield.

I wonder how the general public will learn about what Roarke can do outside of his mech?

>>1523451

I strongly advise against it.

>>1523462
Standard ol' beam shield. Which might make sense if we try for a reactive shield too. Active shields tend to be less handy when you are highly agile or got multiple defenses.
Course, we COULD just got grab a single, 20 SP beam shield. Price would certainly go down alongside weight instead of getting 2 beam shields, but it's not the same.
Oh, and replacing the active shield with the non active beam shield? 11 cp.

>>1523483
I'm just making jokes. We're not even voting on what we're going for yet. Or are we and I didn't notice?

By the way, someone remind me if you know offhand, besides Lightning versus Libra did we ever decide on who was fighting who next? I feel like Dutchman's match was set already.

>>1523485
Hmm, time to consult the Mekton Technical Abuse site...

Name: Poor Man's Reactive Shield#Updated#
Munchkin Meter: **********

Description: Coupling an AF of 2 with a -2 WA Beam Shield results in Reactive Shield like protection for 1.8cp/K instead of 3cp/K normally required by reactive shields. This gets even better if the design has room for 2 shields, which can then alternate between uses and add the TIU and Rechargeable modifiers for even more savings.

(The Munchkin Meter has been increased due to some calculations I did. A 20K, 1 TIU, Rechargeable, -2 WA, AF 4 beam shield costs only 17.82 cp. Buying two of them only costs 35.64 cp. This is even cheaper than a 15K reactive shield! It is effective against all types of attack, has 5 more SP, is basically unlimited, and by default has a Reset of 1)

Remedy: Exploit the fact that Beam Shields can't have Reset: 0. Also, exploit the fact that there are two facings unprotected on a mech with Beam Shields instead of Reactive Shields.

>>1523490
Seemed to be pumpkinseed was the one we talked about.

>>1523493
So that leaves Jager and the death cassowary together.

>>1523490
I dont think you ever decided besides one of the pirates fighting revy. Maybe flip a coin?

>>1523474
Seems pretty simple. Make a couple mechs, designate what part of the smaller mechs are where on the bigger one then when one servo on the big one takes damage, so do the smaller ones.

So in the example in Zeta Plus, the head of the Greater Mecha (8/6) is made by the torso (2/2) of the Figher smaller mech. If the head got hit with a 4K attack, the head would lose 1 SP, but if the mech de-combined, the fighter would be destroyed. If another Lesser Mech's servo was part of the head, it would also take 4K damage.

Keeping all that straight would be a nightmare though.

>>1523492
So, gonna leave this site again for some recorded system abuse.

http://virtualmekton.tripod.com/mtsac.html

>>1523471
>the combined weapon cost 1.5 times what it did.

and this right here is why combining weapons isn't really worth it IMO.

although I really want to revisit them and wrestle those sumbitches into shape like I did the projectile rules, because it seems like it's the only way to unlock the CROWE's true potential.

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>>1523465
obligatory

>>1523474
>>1523503
Wait no, the fighter's torso is split between the head and the torso?

They could have made that chart less shitty.

>>1523510
Ah, Gingiser, never fails to make me laugh.

>>1523492
meant how much it would cost to trade up. I put the price for a beam shield up there and I certainly wasn't going to use that munchkiny stuff. If I want to bully, I bully the old fashion way.
>>1523496
It wasn't going to be pretty for anyone since the lightning and Libra are both pretty strong against the Sagister. It's got the same sort of problem the blitz did. Less servos and AP hurts like a bitch for those upper models.

>>1523514
Gingiser is the strongest

>>1523506
Yeah, I get not putting all your eggs in one basket, but why would you make it so you can't use a bigger basket if you lose one of the smaller ones? That's why I think they're bad. Lose one cheap beam gun and you can't use your super expensive beam gun. If the gun costs enough, just buying weight or space efficiency would be plain better.

>>1523518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O043exmFoJE

>>1523515
I'm scared to death of anything with a boosterpack, and the Sagister can potentially destroy me in a single dropkick.

>>1523527
true, but at the same time, you have the ability to lay down extreme range ap attacks that have a good chance of hitting and comes in bursts. That bird's only defense is a anti-beam chaff, anti-missiles, and dodging. It also sacrifices speed to use that massive melee. After all, the wings become legs, and it loses flight bonus. Thats 8 MA down right there PLUS it loses an action.

>>1523493

Righto. You and Revy are up tomorrow, then, if I get the map done in time (which I will)

>>1523536
Alright. I'll make some posters for the matches. Might stick with the Machines for this round.. and a giant angry bird for the sagister.

>>1523531
>extreme range

Not really, Compared to beams, the CROWE has very limited range.

>>1523551
In most circumstances, yes. But you have a sniper variant, correct? It packs plenty of punch and the Sagi's dodge penalty makes up for some issues. Or you can be a total butt and indirect blast fire near it and simply do a dozen dice to see if you get luck and either melt it's chest armor or hit the cinematic or special table.

>>1523561
I think that's how you'd mess up the M-Sagister: explosions.

But I don't think the sniper and blast are together.

>>1523564
Don't think they are, no and indirect fire hurts from further away. I was honestly pondering if indirect blast missiles would even trigger anti-missile systems since they seem to be based only on missiles attacking them directly.

>>1523527
You would have an easier time than the poor jager. I'm going to have to pull some shit out my ass for that fight or hope the PTSD dice kick in again.

>>1523569
Also, 1 AP sniper shot is enough to destroy the head. -2 penalty right there, and takes a quarter of the sagi's MA with it since it only has 4 servos. For land speed? That 10 Ma becomes 7.5 which hurts how far it can chase you. Remember, you have free 2 MA that you can use for moonwalking or getting away.
There are ways to deal with it.. but because of how it's set up, you must play it smart.

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>>1523564
Yeah, only AP and tracer rounds on the sniper. But bringing the sniper rifle seems suicidal depending on how the map looks. if there's enough cover for the Sagister to safely approach, the sniper is useless.

Which brings to mind why I want to at least experiment with Combiner weapons, even if I think they're stupidly expensive. It would finally, FINALLY, give me a way to turn the existing CROWE into a true modular weapon like the EAGLE I based it off of.

I think I just had an epiphany regarding that, too. But it's going to have to wait until Friday to see if I can actually make it work.

>>1523577
Its got no thrusters in its head.

>>1523580
Yeah, that was talked about last thread. Something about messing with the balance.

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Is it possible for the Kaiser to have different types of drone fists like an AP, energy based, etc etc. The Kaiser can switch fists ala MCU Hulkbuster Armor if someone managed to destroy one of the Kaiser's arm servo. Also, why no Right Arm-Inbuilt Armor-Piercing Bombardment-Type Radiation Wave Unit for the Kaiser. Pic related.

>>1523586
1/however many servos you have thrusters in. Not total servos. At least, that's how Wong does it. So the Sagister would lose 1/3rd its MA if it lost a leg. Along with the wing and Avian bonus.

>>1523254
Making Orc Babies Evil makes you a shitty DM.

>>1523277
So, you're used to Tolkien orcs? Cause D&D orcs just do raping and despoiling.

>>1524044
Yup. Not every minion race has to have a tragic backstory of peaceful race being enslaved by demons/magic/brain parasites/Chad/overlord.

>>1524082
True. But there's nothing wrong with making Orcs more than just a Minion race. Especially if you want a setting with verisimilitude.

Well I'm flattered that so much consideration is going into how to handle my murder bird, I really hope I get to re-design it later for the second season of this quest... need to figure out how to get rid of the form change and just give it normal wings...

What's a good starting CP level for a protagonist mech? I was thinking under 200.

>>1524201
considering the monsters you can make at 140... I'd say 150 to 160

Well I got rid of the metaform legs but had to sacrifice damage and tankiness...

「M-SAGISTER」ALT
(Avian Mecha Beast: Cassowary)

Light Heavy Torso: C/S/K 14, 7 tons
Heavy Striker Head: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Right Talon: CP 4, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 2 spaces
Left Talon: CP 4, Quick, AP, 4K, 2 tons (Clumsy -2 land MA), 2 spaces
(+3K for leg servo bonus, +2K for avian mecha beast bonus, 8K total)
Heavy Striker wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker wing: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Armor:
Medium Heavy Torso Armor (8 CP, 8 SP, 4 tons)
Medium Striker Armor (4 CP, 4 SP, 2 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Right) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
Heavy Striker Leg Armor (Left) (5 CP, 5 SP, 2.5 tons)
Medium Striker wing Armor (Right) (4 CP, 4 SP, 2 tons)
Medium Striker wing Armor (Left) (4 CP, 4 SP, 2 tons)

FRAME TOTAL: 79 CP, 38.5 TONS

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP), Inter-servo melee linkage (legs, talons) 6 CP,

DAMAGE CONTROL PACKAGE (1 CP, 1 Space (torso))


Armament:

Loadout 1: Wave Chaser
Torso- Mounted Beam gun: Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, 13.5 CP, 10 Spaces, 0.5 tons (2.5 CP of space efficiency)(fragile)

Head Crest Scatter(anti beam chaff) Missile Pod: Range 550m, 10K, Blast radius: 1, Ammo 3, 5.25 CP, 3 Spaces, 1 ton (1 CP of space efficiency)

Beak/Head Mounted Beam Wave: Range: 200m, WA +1, 1K, Wide Range: Hex, 4 CP, 1 space, 0.5 tons (fragile)
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Loadout 2: Hen Peck
Torso- Mounted Beam gun: Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, 13.5 CP, 10 Spaces, 0.5 tons (2.5 CP of space efficiency)(fragile)
Head Crest Scatter(anti beam chaff) Missile Pod: Range 550m, 10K, Blast radius: 1, Ammo 3, 5.25 CP, 3 Spaces, 1 ton (1 CP of space efficiency)

Beak/Head Beam A.M.S: Range: 300m, WA+1, 2K, Anti-missile, 4 CP, 1 space (1 CP of space efficiency), 0.5 tons (fragile)
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Thrusters & Speed:
16 thrusters, 500m +300m+100m (when wings deployed (avian+wing bonus)) = 900m per turn, 5 in each wing, 3 per leg, (42.5 x .375) = 16 CP
Land MA: 5-2-2 = 1 (50m a turn).
133.75 CP, 42.5 tons-
6 CP Weight efficiency
=
139.75 CP, 39.5 tons (-3 MV, -1 for Avian mecha beast form) -4mv

>>1524210
crap, I think I miscalculated the weight again...

>>1524201
>>1524205

The original Kaiser was around 200, if I recall correctly.

And part of the reason why we have so many absurdly effective mechs at a 140 CP level is because we had a ton of people obsess over the rules and create non-standard entries.

A standard unarmed Medium Weight Mech with 12 MA comes in at a bit over 100 CP, so if it was souped up a bit and given actual weapons, it would be pretty formidable.

>>1524201
150-160 CP is good.

>>1524231
Actually, it was 140 at the start.

>>1524264
Hmm, my mistake.

Personally, I'm thinking of a rule where you have separate budgets for your mech's weapons.

Also thinking of a rule where multipliers are only applied to relevant parts of the mech. Giving a mech VTOL capabilities doesn't really affect the weapons all that much, so it doesn't make sense to multiply the cost of the weapons either. If you bought the Targeting computer, it doesn't make sense to multiply the cost of your melee weapons because only ranged weapons are affected.

>>1524289
It affects your weapons by letting you fire them twice without going into free fall.

>>1524291
For a hovering jet? Maybe. Just maybe.

But other modifiers don't make sense when applied to the entire mech.

>>1524297
A lot of things dont make much sense about this system. Why does cost dictate spaces taken instead of weight or something for one thing.

>>1524306
Another good one is why does adding a second slot for ammunition make the ammo cost more?

>>1524306
True, but this is something I can easily fix.

I also think Verniers should be calculated using Weight, but that can get unbalanced pretty easily.

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I have stared into the abyss of combiners and tried to map out a sample weapon before I had to leave.

Getting the math to work for the Libra's gun is going to seem like kindergarten work compared to this.

>>1524308
Technically, if you calculated all the Ammo characteristics using the Kills of Damage the weapon does, and not its cost, you'd have something more internally consistent. However, that could get unbalanced.

Although... the changes to the ammo values shouldn't be that big. Especially if we're ignoring Ammo Weight.

Calculations:

Example Gun 1: Range 7MA, WA +2, 5K, 10 CP, 10 Spaces, 2.5 tons
- Ammo Calculated with Weapon Cost: 10 Rounds, 1 CP, 1 Space
- Ammo Calculated with Weapon Kills: 10 Rounds, .5 CP, 1 Space

Example Gun 2: Range 9MA, WA 0, 10K, BV3, Long-Range, 53 CP, 53 Spaces, 5 tons
- Ammo Calculated with Weapon Cost: 10 Bursts, 5.3 CP, 5 Spaces
- Ammo Calculated with Weapon Kills: 10 Bursts, 1 CP, 1 Space

I guess it saves you some CP and Space. Admittedly, the price had to be jacked up really high to make a noticeable difference.

Although, it would make sense for the ammo to cost more and take up more space if you were using a Burst Fire system. Either way, calculating Ammo stats using kills isn't THAT big a difference, unless Libranon wants to correct me on the intricacies of SP guns.

>>1524328
I tried figuring it out but I wasn't sure if the combined weapon is supposed to cost 1.5 times the calculated weapon values or if it got discounted to half its cost. That, and the question of Space Efficiency being counted towards the cost.

>>1523538

Link them, don't post them.

>>1524377
>or if it got discounted to half its cost
It's 1.5 times the cost. A negative multiplier that reduces the cost has a - sign in front of it. For proof, open the Corebook and look at starship MA. The really low MA values are listed as "-x0.2" and such.

If it did halve the cost, giving your mech every sneaky upgrade so it would be basically undetectable while cloaked would reduce the cost of a mech by 60% since those multipliers are also listed as "x0.X" and such.

Basically, every mech you make has a native multiplier of 1.0, and any other multipliers you take are added or subtracted from that. I can't think of any negative multipliers in Zeta Plus though.

>>1524405
underpowered powerplants, I think.

>>1524405
In that case, weapon splitting is a god-awful idea that costs way more than it's worth.

>>1524381
Don't know where to post them. I try to keep a lot of the things I make anon.

>>1524631
Just make a throwaway google account in incognito and put them in its Drive, then link that so Wong can get them.

>>1524631
Oh, if you do, make sure you set them to public first. IIRC all files you put in a Drive are private by default.

>>1524631
imgur?

>>1524377
I think you misunderstood me. Everything else effecting ammo costs makes sense. All multi-feed does is add additional ammo slots.

It's a very minor nitpick.

>>1524328
Hang on, I think I might have found a way to make Weapon Combiners work.

The biggest limitation of Weapon Combiners is that their component Weapons have to add up to half the cost of the overall weapon. So a 30 CP weapon has component Weapons that add up to 10 CP. The greater weapon must also occupy the same number of spaces as the two combined weapons, so I'm guessing space Efficiency is part of the cost.

The way you could Actually make that work is to have the costs of the component Weapons equal the cost of the overall weapon. So a 20 CP Combiner weapon would cost 30 CP but the costs of the component Weapons would add up to 20 CP. You're getting three Weapons for 30 CP but two of those can't be used while the third one exists.

Makes a lot more sense in my opinion.

>>1524631
Just use Imgur. It's easier than Google Drive and it's not as shitty as Photobucket.

>>1524710
>The way you could Actually make that work is to have the costs of the component Weapons equal the cost of the overall weapon. So a 20 CP Combiner weapon would cost 30 CP but the costs of the component Weapons would add up to 20 CP. You're getting three Weapons for 30 CP but two of those can't be used while the third one exists.

Eh, not really. You're essentially getting 50% of the Greater Weapon for free by doing this, since the whole point of the lesser ones adding up to 50% is that you don't have to actually pay the multiplier for the greater one. I would say that it should be an option. You can make do it this way, but you also have to pay the 0.5 multiplier.

>>1524711
>>1524649
I used this instead. Hope it works. https://anonimag.es/image/JT9s19V

>>1524442
Hot standard power plants as well.

>>1524405
Also, space hydraulics, weight ineffeciency, and a system that lowers your maneuver pool. It is possible to get a 80% discount if you do it right.

>>1524757
You ARE paying the Multiplier with the way I wrote it. You create a weapon, multipy it by 1.5 and pay that cost. The component weapons add up to the original weapon's cost. This allows for the creation of stronger component weapons, which is a lot more fair.

Anyways, this is all a mechanical difference. In play, you would need special facilities and stuff to create a Combiner Weapon. If I was planning on allowing them in my setting.

>>1524804
The fact that you used Gunpla models amuses me.

>>1524850
I try to keep the design similar for each contestant when I make these things. Aside from weird cases like the Sagister and it's pilot who has way too few pictures to work with. Used gundam VS for the Dutchman vs Chimera fight.

Yo, could someone help me with energy pools? Shit's crazy yo. Or at least give a clear example.

>>1525281
(Head Mounted) Energy Pool: 30 Available Power, 3 Portfolios, 13 Kills, 6.5 Tons, 10 Spaces, 50 Space Efficiency, 85 CP (Base 60 CP)

Thunderbolt: WA 1, 20K, 900 Meter Range
Super AMS: WA 3, 10K, Anti-Missile
Xiphos: WA 1, 15K, EMW, Quick

Here's one I made. What are you having problems with?

>>1525310
How do you use a sword that sticks out of your head?

>>1525310
The available power part and portfolio.

>>1525320
By being a tank.

>>1525321
Available power is the max CP cost a weapon in the energy pool can have. Portfolios are how many weapons an energy pool can have. So the energy pool I made can have weapons that cost up to 30 CP, and can have 3 weapon portfolios it can switch between.

>>1525321
Also how did you come up with the WA and kills portion of each portion?

>>1525320
You ever see destroyha from godzilla?
>>1525321
Basically you have a certain amount of power available which you can use as CP for a weapon, so if you have an energy pool with 25 power available you can make a weapon that costs 25 CP as one of its forms.
The portfolio is how many different forms your weapon can take. Most have a portfolio of 3 so using the above example you can make 3 weapons at 25 CP.

>>1525331
>>1525336
And the maximum power part?

>>1525331
>By being a tank.

That's either really cool or really dumb.

>>1525336
>You ever see destroyha from godzilla?

So, like a unicorn? More like a Rhinoceros in this case though.

>>1525342
You can ignore that unless you start using RAM armour I'm pretty sure. I know I have.

>>1525347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mWb2NN7xA
Lots of head waving.

>>1525347
>really dumb
Everyone was terrified of the Blitz and it had a melee loadout. The tank I made the energy pool for is basically the Blitz on steroids and cocaine.

>>1525333
When you say "each portion" do you mean each weapon? You design the weapons for the energy pool. Though you can only make beam guns and EMWs without morphable. Then you can only make melee and projectile weapons.

>>1525375
Morphable can be anything O'm pretty sure.

>>1524013

That's the meme I'm talking about. Pure cancer.

>>1525375
No, you can make energy and solid stuff together with morphable as well.

>>1525397
>>1525398
Huh. I thought someone had told you that when you were making Oda's new mech.

>>1525375
>Everyone was terrified of the Blitz and it had a melee loadout. The tank I made the energy pool for is basically the Blitz on steroids and cocaine.

Everyone was terrified because getting through the armor would be a chore and it had a big gun that could fuck up your day.

But I was referring to the mental image in this case. Just, the idea of the Blitz ineffectually swinging its turret around while the mech it's trying to hit stands on top of the turret amuses me.

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>>1525415
I dont know man, I can see it getting pretty scary.

>>1525397
Man, I haven't been on tg in ages. Glad of it too. Planning on a post-apocalypse pen and paper game with friends, alignment charts not in effect.

>>1525397
It's also true ;)

>>1525397

Before any orc-baby apologists show up, I'll clarify this. When encountering an orc baby after slaughtering an encampment of orcs, you have two options.

One, kill it and feel bad, because we're programmed to see larval things as cute and not want to murder them.

Two, take it in and derail the game into My Adopted Green Drizzt Baby Who Might Turn Evil Eventually Anyway Because Gruumsh Designed Them To Be Hyper Aggressive And Easily Angered.

Fuck both options, honestly. It's stupid in the first place for the Orcs to bring children with them if they're raiding human lands or whatever, and if they have noncombatants with them, say you're slaughtering a village of them trying to colonize the local barony, you're in a situation where your charter as an adventurer clearly includes slaying noncombatants and you were fine with it before it wasn't portrayed in such stark terms.

>>1525431
What about dumping them in an orphanage and fucking off?

>>1525431
I stand by my statement that Orc toddlers are the purest form of evil.

>>1525424
That's not a sword. I was imagining a big beam saber sticking out of the barrel of the tank and being waved around.

>>1525431
>playing in a Vanilla D&D setting

Well, there's your problem.

>>1525437
Someone brings up the fact that the Orc will probably kill the caretakers as it grows up.

The threads are generally stupid because the premise is pretty shitty.

>>1525437
Then the orphanage will burn down because whole point is that the DM is a dick who's going for the cheapest "moral dilemma" possible to make you feel sad, or is trying to make the paladin fall for some asinine reason.

>>1525431
This. I've had DMs do the forced oh my god drama shit too often. Shits stupid. My first DM treated orcs like viking raiders, they maraud in from somewhere else and fuck things up. No pesky moral problems for the annoying three other players.

>>1525444
>I was imagining a big beam saber sticking out of the barrel of the tank and being waved around.
In that case I'd just make the barrel prehensile or something.
>>1525444
>>1525448
>burnt orphanages
Thats their fault for being shitty caretakers, nothing to do with me.

>>1525431
Leave them in a shaolin temple and walk away.

Monk training will solve the problem in time, or the monks will deal with the rampanging orc children anyway.

If you don't have shaolin monks in your world, the nearest temple of a god of peace/life/hippie stuff should be able to brainwash- errr... I mean... teach them into not being murderous assholes.

>>1525444
From the way I think they work, the barrel would retract or deconstruct and it would be left with just a pure beam. It would be pretty stupid if it was actually designed to make it impossible to aim up.

I wanted to make it a halberd because I don't like flails, but I'm pretty sure weapons like them weren't invented for centuries after Greek societies ceased to exist.

>>1525454
>My first DM treated orcs like viking raiders, they maraud in from somewhere else and fuck things up.

One of the best ways to portray Orcs. Good on him.

One of my DM's once went full out on the Viking Orc analogy. Orcs had their own thriving society and shit but liked to raid and pillage the nearest Kingdoms. Then they went and sacked the Paris equivalent and we had to steal back the silver they demanded as ransom. Fun times.

>>1525474
That's funny. One of my early characters was a half-orc monk in a crazy horror inspired dnd game. Think John Carpenters The Thing level stuff, that was fun.

>>1525497
He was a good one. Helped me get over my first time RP jitters by having me be an undercover plant sent by devils.

>>1525427

It isn't untrue, but it's also not correct, because it raises the wrong question. It's not a matter of whether or not orc babies are evil, it's a matter of whether or not you should kill them.

Consider most wars in history, were the people on the other side evil? Not usually, most people are good, at least in their own minds. Their leaders might be evil, but Hans the Stormtrooper might just want to protect his homeland by removing burger and borscht. That doesn't mean grandpa Bob should feel guilty about shooting Hans, sometimes decent people are forced to kill other decent people by circumstance.

The difference is that if Grandpa Bob doesn't encounter Hans the Stormtrooper, but rather Hans the Baby Nazi, he can be reasonably assured that if he raises Hans himself or puts Hans into an orphanage, Hans will grow up into a regular human instead of being genetically predisposed to despise the juden and admire men with tiny mustaches. A baby orc is different, because it isn't human, it has different drives and instincts. Even half-orcs have a (frequently downplayed) genetic predisposition with getting angry or aggressive really, really easily, full-blooded orcs have it much worse.

The real problem, though, is that it's such a complex issue and such a campaign derailer and is so easily avoided by the orcs just leaving their mates and spawn at home in the mountain caves (which would explain the raping, too, if they don't have their own women around) that it betrays an agenda on the part of the DM if he includes it, and so killing the babies to spite him is a perfectly valid response.

Map is up, we start as soon as Dutchman gets here.

>>1525552
I am always here. Posted the match up pic earlier as well. Hope it works for ya. >>1524804

>>1525547
Greenmen genetically predisposed to be scumbags confirmed

>>1525497

Ironically, that's how Tolkien did it despite how blatantly his orcs were magically twisted creations of evil and how you never see a single orc female. Orcs had villages, even farms of a sort, with different sub-species and individuals that were invested to greater or lesser extents in actually fighting...but Mordor was SUCH A SHITHOLE EXPLAINED AT UNGODLY LENGTH BY TOLKIEN IN MIND-BLOWING DEPTH that it makes sense there wouldn't be enough resources.

>>1525547
I like your reasoning. Just going to point out that plenty of Vikings and other invaders were married and perfectly happy to rape.

>>1525569
Not gonna lie, I like the movie Orcs better. And the Shadow of Mordor Orcs.

>>1525568

It's 100% known fact even with all the wartime propaganda that at least the original Green Men were genetically predisposed to have a strong aversion to violence and conflict, which is part of the reason they were viewed as trustworthy. It's also theorized that this is part of the reason why they went genocidal on humanity, because the constant fighting and squabbling inherent to the species was like constant sandpaper grating on them.

>>1525547
It really is a shitty thing to throw in a campaign.

>>1525547
And that's not counting the fact that they would realistically hold a grudge against humans for killing their parents. Best for everyone to just mercy kill them and be done with it.

>>1525582
So, what you're saying is, Green Men were like adults in a room with crying and fighting toddlers?

Why didn't they leave? Or did some of them leave?

>>1525581
The Lord of the Rings films did a lot of things right. The orcs and goblins were amazing and savage. They had acting coaches teaching the extras how to move like goblins and orcs.

>>1525582
I'm just ribbing you.
>>1525601
>not leaving the orcs alive so they get a grudge on purpose so you have work down the line