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>>1733940

Your request for a modified LAER based Securitron model is complete.

Coming in two forms, the standard Securitron model with built in human interface and civilian control features and face screen, and your hardier but less intelligent Soldier-Securitron.

Both arms are replaced with newly developed Gatling LAER's, based partly off of Elijah's Advanced LAER. Each shot by a Laer is nearly 3 times as powerful as the standard Laser Rifle Shot, and almost 6 times as powerful as the standard Gatling Laser individual shot. Twin armed, they are a formidable weapon, causing

Interestingly, Cain likes the weapon and notes its "similarity to electrical weapon he discovered in the Secret Vault before it blew the fuck up". Your scientists and files on BigMT confirm the LAER and Cain's weapon share similar parts, though the LAER seems more advanced.

The upshots of this design are that it has increased the energy weapons lethality of the Securitron Model considerably, showing a "200% increase in vaporization" according to Dr. 0. The weapon being an electrical variant make it particularly effective against robots and enemy power armor. The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased

Drawbacks are that the weapon itself is more fragile and prone to breakdown and overheat, so the Securitrons Auto-Repair mechanisms work very hard increasing energy cost as well as being more vulnerable to counter fire. In addition, the increased energy consumption necessitates a larger alien battery which becomes a vulnerable point as well as being glowing and slightly more visible.

To counter this, the extra armored Hazard Variety increases the armor protection of all systems yet however, also increases its energy consumption, decreases speed, and also increases cost but gives it ample armor and cover.

>>1744066
>Twin armed, they are a formidable weapon, causing

Causing what?


>The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased

Increased what?

>>1744087
Ugh I hate typos.

That was supposed to lead into the mention that they increase the rates of vaporization, are generally more powerful, and cause electrical damage.

>The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased
*Increased the flexibility of the Securitron Model over hard terrain while retaining their landspeed over flat terrain.

>>1744103
bueno

>>1744103
Cool

>>1741448
You return home to organize reinforcements, and to drum up support for the troops.

In that regard you feel its time for a bit of some propaganda of your own, and working to the best of your own abilities, start on it.

You begin the first drafts of your own, somewhat autobiographical book, though you've yet to come up with a title you start jotting down some personal ideas.

The Improvement of the Human Race is a major theme. The usage of augments, the acceptance of mutation as part of natures scheme of evolution, and the efforts of science to ever increase the abilities of scope of humanity.

You realize that this may be offputting to any factions or people who are human "purists" particularly the original Enclave, and possibly some elements of the BoS. But it does speak truths about your own ideology.

The Commitment to welfare is also on your agenda, how the state should provide for the human living condition especially in old age.

Last but not least, the effort that New America will make to avoid the mistakes of the old and rise New from the ashes of the Old World.

---

As you write, you have a copy of Yaunkers red book on your desk, mainly to compare.

It strikes you that some of this mans ideology isn't at all very different from your own, and he himself speaks of the improvement of humanity (through the superior Californian race and augmentation), the NCR's commitment to wellfare, and avoiding the mistakes of the Old World as well. It isn't exact copy, as there are marked differences, such as your beliefs on debrainification and the FEV.

But suppose you will need to make more efforts and put in more ideas to your book.

Further actions on the book may prove very valuable for future propaganda purposes! Once its ready to be sold by making it more fleshed out, it will be truly worthy of speaking on your behalf to the masses. You can make them as part of a hero action as you write whereever you are.

>>1744282
Nice. Heres hoping our 100 speech will help even if we roll shit.

>>1744298
Didn't we roll 89 on this turn?
I saw it from the last thread

>>1744302
True, but the book isnt finished.

>>1744309
Use another hero action to get it done

>>1744311
Hence >>1744298

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>>1744311
It is unlikely you will get this done in two turns, but the good news is you can add to it at any time via the hero action by just tacking i on. Unless you're doing something very intensive that won't allow for reading. What it needs are some more fleshed out concepts.

>>1741448
You make other direct efforts to improve patriotism or at least nationalism within your nation. More flagpoles, and having soldiers or officers regularly tend to them when it comes time to bring them down or up.

Propaganda posters are printed out attacking the Legion and the NCR. Legion posters are easy enough, in regards to the NCR you accuse them of unfair economic policies, and the use of human capital in war where you protect your citizens and soldiers through a "metal shield of robotics". Apart from that you do your best to generally antagonize them.

You're no mind reader, and neither is James bond, but you suspect they are having an effect. Those who already hated the NCR have something to talk about now too.

You consider you may want to add more poster concepts over time as well.

>>1744331
Following in the footsteps of Enclave Radio, you think make a radio channel specifically for national purposes. Unity's band is more than happy to play new versions of the old songs, based on some musical pieces they were able to find for a marching band. These are recorded and added to the playlist.

It is decided to give Mrs. New Washington her own radio show as well.

On the topic of the radio show and the new Anthem, Dean Domino voices some hesitations.

>Dean Domino
"First off, I'm a Jazz an swing musician savvy?"

Dean Domino suggests, rather than /just/ American patriotic marches playing over and over again, why not throw in some swing music instead?

He takes a piece of Americn march music and adds his own twist, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-lBi5r6Jk

CHOOSE:
>The old classics are fine, it will appeal to the traditionalists.
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music

----

Meanwhile he also speaks about your ideas on a new Anthem.

>Dean Domino
"I'm no Red Blooded Flag Waver, but as a musician even I recognize there's something to be said about America in its national anthem. The Anthem carries a bit of a message to it, not in its words but also the familiarity of its tune. I'm not sure whether you want the same tune to new lyrics or something new entirely. What do you suggest?"

CHOOSE:
>People like Moreno would want the old Anthem, and it would make our ties to the Old World stronger. Perhaps a newer rendition is in order instead, rather than some old holotape. That would please the traditionalists.
>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new. [Would you like to add suggestions to new lyrics anons?]
>A Brand New Anthem is warranted. We are a new America after all. Descendant in spirit, but new in upbringing. Something more relevant to our cause is needed. [Would like some suggestions if possible]

>>1744282
>>1744331
I'd like to add something to the book.
The improvement of humans should also be cultural/social rather than just scientifically, through promoting a genuine desire to improve among the people, our goal should be not just being physically and mentally strong but also having a very wide arrangement of useful skills like cooking, crafting, reading, shooting, swordsmanship, martial arts, wilderness survival and any other stuff. Our goal is to make every person a king not by what they own but how they behave, what they are as a person.

And it is by improving the people that we improve the Nation, because it is the duty of Citizens to contribute to their community and the state in the fashion they believe is best, whether that be teaching others, making tools, researching and inventing or joining the military, and when the people are strong and help each other be better people do they make the nation strong, for the nations strength comes from the people.

>>1744331
>You consider you may want to add more poster concepts over time as well.
Point out the NCR's dishonorable habit of claiming inventions were invented by them, it is greatly disrespectful to the true inventors and the scientific community as a whole.

>>1744437
OP I got to think for a while before making the choices, got to get some ideas going.

>>1744467
>Point out the NCR's dishonorable habit of claiming inventions were invented by them
Which ones? Hexcrete and Salient Green

Sure you can add that.

>>1744482
>Which ones? Hexcrete and Salient Green
I thought they had some other ones, inventions not from us but from the old world they claim had been invented recently by them, do they not?

>>1744486
They say they have rediscovered old world principles like internal combustion and other technologies. Obviously this stuff existed before the war.

The new technologies they accredit themselves to are stuff like Hypo and their theoretical "Ion Engine"

>>1744486
Salient Green, Hexcrete, the robots that look like a low tech versions of Securitrons

>>1744493
I think the low tech securitrons are kinda iffy. We don't have any sense of the internals, and a lot of the subsystems are not exactly proprietary. Take the missle replicator out of a sentry bot, laser out of a mr gutsy, etc. then it's just putting it in the familiar packaging.

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>>1744493
Those are actually just old world Heavy Sentry-Bots reprogrammed.

>>1744490
Oh, then nevermind what i said about science, i though they falsy claimed some tech as their own and i don't want us to appear as a whiner because of the Salient green and hexcrete.

>>1744462
i do support this. Though obviously some skills, like swordsmanship, are less useful than others.

>>1744522
>Though obviously some skills, like swordsmanship, are less useful than others.
I do believe they have some use in certain situations, knowing how to swing something is useful whether that be a knife or a metal rod, plus i'm a sucker for medieval combat and i don't want our people to lose to the Legion in something so i believe promoting a martial arts and swordamnship interest would be good.

>>1744462
I also support this.

>>1744437
I do like the old classics, but also want something new.
A idea is we can have set hours to play the classics and the new swing music that will appeal to both. And we could just have two different stations of new music and Classics.

>>1744437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRIJpU1k3A
I like the tune of America, and the lyrics but I don't really have suggestions to new lyrics. Maybe with the Courier INT 10 and other stats he can come up with something.

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The Omni-Constructor leads your new Pan-Constructors, and with the help of Jacob Miles and his crew of robots, swiftly being construction of General Kregers forward outpost. And with steel and especially Hexcrete aplenty, it is being constructed in record time.

You have a new outpost! It can be further upgraded.

Meanwhile, the Chinese say they will accept the Generals request as long as their own conditions are met. They would like to maintain their own independant chinese forces, which will be deployed alongside yours.

They also request a considerable amount of Fuel(Food) to fullfil the Generals request. It will set our food stocks back a bit, but they say it will be most effective this way.

CHOOSE:
>What do

>>1744544
Agree to the terms. We're going to need all the help we can get to get the Divide from the Marked Men.

>>1744544
Can you say what the request from Kreger is? or is it supposed to be a surprise?

>>1744562
He asked the Chinese to deploy their "Urban clearing and anti-biological forces" that was part of their dogma he noted when reading their tactical codex.

>>1744544
>agree

>>1744437
>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new. [Would you like to add suggestions to new lyrics anons?]

Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.

>>1744544
Do it

>>1744544
agree.

>>1744583
>Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.
This is an excellent point

>>1744602
I agree with that.

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>- Convince our companions / scientists to receive augments

Some companions of yours, like Mary-Jo Casey or ghouls like Raul and Cain are out when it comes to the implants, as they were designed for humans. Marcus points out that the Master had to tinker with specialized implants for mutants, and that they were also working on a Ghoul variety, so it may be possible with further research. E-DE, Rusty, and Mary Jo Casey may need more electronic based implants being cybernetic in nature. Milton+Hans being entirely different species altogether.

People like AXE MAN, Sonia, Hazel, and Vanessa are all on board when it comes to implants and graciously accept. Couripor accepts, though possibly out of subservience. Riddick also accepts the offer, except for certain ones like his eyes.

Delilah is pregnant at this time, not a good candidate for augments until after her child by her husband is born.

That just leaves the rest. Mainly people who are adjusting to civilian life like Joana, Wendy Gilbert, and Desmond Harper.

And others who are just plain leery of the idea. Like Cass, Arcade, Veronica and a number of your scientists.

You are pretty sure you can convince them, but would you anons like to put in your own words of wisdom? Why should humanity pursue augmentation?
>What say?

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>>1744331
Here you go QM, fresh from the presses

>>1744651
Yo scientists you want to be smarter, spend more time researching but get tired too easy. Or you just plain weak and want to get that pussy, get augmentations.
You be smarter, faster, stronger, and can research more hours of the day with the augs even live longer if you want. Not to say the amount of pussy you get from the ladies your know what to say and not be limited to "Y-you too".

Get Augs today and be a better, tho you also have to improve yourself to maximization the augs you have

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>>1744331
And here is a nice anti-NCR one I cooked up.

>>1744674
Wonderful! Definitely going to give you a boost or that.

>>1744651
Humanity should always strive for improvement. To look inwards, see our flaws and accept them as immutable, unchangeable, is to resign one's self to failure.

We must always be striving towards the unachievable perfection and take our steps along the infinite path of progress. We must always be better than what we were.

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>>1744706
Look at this OC

>>1744721
But we don't have a church.

Which kinda takes the wind out of the "battle Hymn of the republic", but what can you do?

>>1744730
It's a small homage to the nailed god, subliminal imagery. A tiny cross at the top is the only church like thing and seeing as our people probably don't have a concept of "church" in game will probably just see this as a hexcrete government building.

>>1744730
You forget we have that offer from the New Canaanites to learn about their religion, we also have that preacher in the alien cryopods we can learn from.

>>1744730
I say that it can be a Church if we put the cross, most people will see it as a government building.

>>1744462
Supporting this addition, sounds good.

Possible book title:
>Blood & Iron:
>The Case for an Empire of Liberty

I'm not sure if 'acceptance of mutation as part of nature's scheme of evolution' is correct though.

The mutations were caused by humanity via nuclear war, not nature. Instead of acceptance, I think we should replace this section with a reference to:
>aiding those poor souls who have been harmed by mutation - a legacy of the problems of the old war. Through science, we will strive to make them truly human once again.

>>1744674
Damm son, thats perfect

>>1744730
The Hubologists would like to build a church.

>>1744651
Alright just tell them they be smarter, stronger, and faster, able to do more things they want to do like research or other things. Like we have implants but we look normal in all regard. We're not giving out robots arms or legs, or tiny things that can't be seem.

>>1744753
>>1744761
Almost hivemind.

>>1744819
I like a good meme now and then. I'm trying to test my skills with photoshop

>>1744762
>aiding those poor souls who have been harmed by mutation - a legacy of the problems of the old war. Through science, we will strive to make them truly human once again.

Problem with that though, is not every mutant will see it as a weakness and may get offended by it. Im not trying to turn this into a PC argument but how does this sound?

>In a society of Intellectuals that constantly seek to better themselves, with the grasp of science even the potential to reverse mutations exist for those that want it.

>>1744813
Well, they can get a church once they aren't a dumb, cashgrab with practices based on self-harm.

>>1744813
Let them build a church.

If they are asking us to build a church for them, I gotta pass.

>>1744843
They are requesting Hexcrete and some robots when you are not using them in a construction action.

They actually are willing to pay for it, and have a considerable amount of bottlecaps.

Actually, your wallet has REALLY been hurting since your ladies got those goodies from the NCR and you could use this. . .

>>1744837
your way is better.

>>1744856
If they pay for the materials, and build it themselves using the bots, Im fine with that.

>>1744856
Let them do it, but only if they offer humanitarian services to the populace, religious or not, in exchange we will offer up some air conditioners and an Alexa for their church as well.

>>1744837
I like the way yours sounds, but I wanted to push it more as a state goal than an personal option for individual mutants - to mollify relations with the Enclave / BoS.

>>1744891
I think just working on the cure would go a substantial way with BOS/enclave.

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>- Tell the Hubologists to chill it a little bit with the preaching / converting
You talk with AHS-9 again, now in more priestly attire.

"The Great Wheel of Truth rolls on, firebird. To deny it is to deny that which makes us ourselves.

We do not force faith on those who refuse it, the Wheel simply passes over them, alignment must be sought after. But in the face of the coming 2nd apocalypse, truly the need to add more to the spokes of the Hub is upon us.

As for the money. You have studied history have you not? Then you must understand that the offering of tithes to sustain the faith is a fundamental practice among many religions."

Well, it is true. Your follower correspondence in Utah mentions the Church regularly asks everyone for 10% of their total income, to be used to maintain the church.

>>1744881
"Certainly we can offer humanitarian aid. Though, you maintain such a well run society that there are no poor or hungry to speak of. Only those poor in spiritual knowledge, and hungry for alignment.

Many of us are willing to engage in your medical training programs however and we are quite intelligent in the preventment and treatment of radiation injuries."

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>>1744331
Last new poster for now QM.

This one highlights our growing robotic forces and has a swipe at the NCR for wasting human lives.

>>1744919
Yeah, tithes are important to sustain the faith, but what do you need with the money that the state cannot provide? You do not need to pay to feed your people, or to clothe them, or to give them homes. What else would the money be needed for?

>>1744939
Oh, this will be PERFECT if you were ever to invest in robotic humanoid soldiers.

>>1744939
Do you have anything criticizing the NCR's anti tribal dogma?
>>1744954
>Oh, this will be PERFECT if you were ever to invest in robotic humanoid soldiers.
Aren't our new Securitrons robotic humanoid soldiers?

>>1744709
Supporting this dialogue towards our companions.

Sell them on the notion that the augments improve at their ability to do basically everything.

>>1744941
"It is an indivisible element of our faith. The Hub ordained that church leaders be those with the intellectual and organizational capability, and proof of this is known through how they steward the finances given to them in life.

And certainly there are still things which are not offered freely and must be paid for. A new church for instance. And had we not the money, we could not pay you for it. Is this not proof enough?"

>>1744971
They're more boxy like, in general your securitron model retain the basic securitron shape.

>>1744993
You could have /can still pay for it with your labor.

>>1745049
"Surely we are capable researchers were you to teach us the sciences you have discovered. But I have seen conventional payment does not form part of your economic scheme."

You don't actually pay anyone really. Mostly, researchers and companions just get better private housing and you offer your wives fine gifts.

>>1745070
I do want to implement some kind of economy system. I think one anon had the idea of a Credit system a while back, but I'm hesitant to use money.

Complete Side question
Does the Courier know about the GARY vault that clones functioning GARYS? Because somehow they found a way around the brain problem - Mostly.

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>- Talk to Sam
You find Sam in the (as of yet, not yet finished) underground farms reading beneath a lamplight.

There's some piles of books around her. Self-help books and psychology stuff, focused around gaining independence.

>Sam
"Hi daddy. . .I guess mommy told you what happened.

I'm my own Me daddy. I don't need mommy or the others to tell me who I am or what I should be doing. I should decide for myself what I believe in.

Didn't you do that? Mommy said you could have listened to the NCR, to House, or to Caesar. But you decided to follow your own self instead."

>What do

>>1745095
Nope. Doesn't ring a bell.

>>1745116
"True honey, and i can't say i don't enjoy how you decided to forge your own path but i am worried about why you decided to do this now. What's in your mind Sam."

>>1745116
Yes, it is important to know who you are, and know your own path in life.
But Me and your mother just want what's best for you, so we tell you what to do. Because we love you and we want you to grow up to be a a wonderful person.

>>1745148
>>1745161
Supporting these.

>>1745116
Sam, Its beautiful that you are taking tge steps to being your own person. Yes thats what I did, although its more complicated when it comes to Nations and Country's.

Ultimately you should be able to choose your own path, and I'm proud of you.

But at the same time your my darling daughter and I love you. Im always going to look out for you and try my best to keep you safe. You may not always agree with my decisions, but I want you to come and talk with me if thats the case.

Or something along that line.

>>1745116
It comes a time in everyone life to be independence that time is around 18. As a child you are still dependence of other, it's not until teen years when girls start doing their own thing.

Getting independence is a long process, that you need the help of you mother and father to get to. If thrown too early at independence most of the times doesn't work out. Momma and me are going to help you one step at a time, first of all it's starts with chores.

>>1745116
>We didn't do it at your age and we sure as hell didn't cut out our parents that love and are there for us. I wish I could contact Breeder number 56# and Father 04# from my tribe.

Have we ever introduced Sam to oir brain? That might be a fun field trip

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>>1744971
>Do you have anything criticizing the NCR's anti tribal dogma?
Here you go Anon.

>>1745209
Wow, you're going ham with this. It's some high quality stuff.

>>1745209
Oh man if you could make a Legion variant we could post that and this side-by-side and point out the similarity.

>>1745209
Good poster anon

>>1745209
Also i recall one anon posted some art of a home in a hill surrounded by greenery, i think that could make for good "Living alongside nature" propoganda.

>>1744437
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music
Make it mostly patriotic songs though - maybe a 70/30 split.

>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new.
>Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.
Supporting these. I'm no good at lyrics, but replacing mentions of the old flag with our new one + throwing in some triumphalist lyrics about us emerging from the fires of the Old World to reclaim our birthright would be good.

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>>1745225
This one?

>>1745148
>>1745161
>>1745176
Support.
>>1745182
>>1745184
Also support clarifying the mechanics of independence.

>>1745209
>>1745217
I never thought propaganda creation could be this exciting!

Where are you getting these pictures from, anon?

>>1745227
Ye.
Just add "A life of harmony" or something.

>>1745231
It seems like most of us anons know how to talk about independence.

>>1745216
>>1745221
Many thanks Anons, glad to hear it hit the mark.

>>1745217
Same image with different copy, or a new one entirely?

>>1745225
As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)

>>1745231
>Where are you getting these pictures from, anon?
Have a stash of some, others I've just found on the net and edited.

I just got done binge reading the archive over the last couple days, and I'm at once amazed by the QM's output and ability, and incredibly disheartened by how little effort is being put into robotics.


Did you guys forget that every single faction but us routinely fields more in singular military excursions than we have in our entire population? Why isn't the immediate focus on getting a decent source of iron to make steel from, so we don't have to keep constantly relying on scavenging and trading with our most daunting competitor? Why isn't securing the great divide as a massive pile of resources not an immediate priority? There were some stupid fucking decisions early on, but why are you guys ignoring the handful of opportunities we have to remain relevant in the face of a Legion and and NCR that are both flourishing?

>>1745161
support, keeping her closer to us and away from the fucking forecaster is extremely important. We should also spend more time getting to know him, since all this quasi-divine shit is ramping up into an actual plotline.

>>1745244
>Same image with different copy, or a new one entirely?
Just add a red streak on top of the Whip guys helmet and change the text.

>>1745238
Yeah. I saw the first 3 as easing into the conversation on what she thinks independence is.

>>1745244
>As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)
Kinda Pro-Phoenix, more like Pro-nature, i want to please Joshua.

>>1745226
Well the old anthem is already about surviving what should have been an end, so the imagery still stands as is.

So it becomes simple syllable replacement.
instead of star span-gled ban-ner, we could have
"flame-bird-touched ban-ner"

the instance of "broad stripes and bright stars" can just have the stars made singular, because we have only 1 star on the flag.

>>1745249
>Why isn't the immediate focus on getting a decent source of iron to make steel from, so we don't have to keep constantly relying on scavenging and trading with our most daunting competitor?
Mate i've been trying to get us a secure resource for a while now. Currently i plan to build power plants so we can spend the energy on making Fissile material to convert into resources.

>>1745244
>As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)
NCR has lots of industrial chopping down 200 year old trees. But we have the upper hand in tech so we don't need to harm nature to fuel our civ.

Like Pro-Nature, more than NCR.

writing

>>1745249
Iron is a major difficulty even for the NCR. The West Coast is Iron Poor and there are only a handful of mines to be found in California. If there are others they are probably east, or south in Mexico or maybe up north in Canada.

Most iron is recycled from scrap, the Old World was fortunate enough to leave a mountain of the stuff everywhere.

Well, everywhere there were big cities at least. For you guys BigMT is really called the "Big Empty" for a reason.

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>>1745283
We NEED to do both of those really quick, and tie up some of the dozens of loose ends we're surrounded by. We've got obscene research potential, but we're trying to do everything at once instead of picking a few things to be good at like everyone else, and it's costing us. The NCR are killing us in tech (and Oddball is metagaming hard all on his own), the Legion are kicking ass with millennia-old fucking farming techniques, the Midwestern Brotherhood have us vastly out-roboted, and the MLA/Shi have much better radation and mutation tech.


We need to establish a few clear focuses for research, and we need to secure reliable supplies of fissile material and iron. If we don't do these two things, we're going to end up a satellite state of one of the actual big boys. Hell, we're already halfway there with the fucking NCR. We sat there while our assorted concubines ooh'd and aah'd over THEIR tech and infrastructure.


We built semi-modern houses with modern amenities and called it good, when we were thinking it would be a focus of our nation early on. You guys are tearing the country in a million different directions, and it's slowly killing us as everyone else ramps shit up. PLS STAHP

>>1745318
If that's the case, then we really need to dump loads of effort into improving the viability of the mantle iron pump. It's distant, but if that's the only way to wean ourselves off the resources of our competitors, then it needs to happen. Hell, Nazi California did it and they're doing fucking great!

>>1745318
BigMT does report there may be an Iron Mine in "Iron County Utah" but the area is indicated to be deep within Legion territory.

>>1745331
Fuck it, then we rape the Legion there and take their shit. This is hilariously crucial to us having any chance of being anything other than a meme city state.

>>1745335
General Kreger and the Brain suggest acquiring the Divide for its mountain of hitherto untouched metal resources will be the real godsend to your power base.

Especially now that you have a way to convert radioactive steel into non-radioactive steel once you get the disinegrator variant of replicator online.

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>>1745288
>>1745271
Here you go Anons.

>>1745330
Problem with the Mantle drill is that it takes like 5 energy sources to power the damn thing, we could just use those 5 energy sources to make Fissile materials instead.
I recommend we begin construction of another solar farm/tower.

>>1745116
>>1745184
>I wish I could contact Breeder number 56# and Father 04# from my tribe.
This reminds me, the Courier is from the "Tribe" Tribe, they don't seem to have any last names, and their tribal location would likely be named something similarly generic. Would the Courier's full name be similar to how "Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci" was named? Something self-descriptive like "Courier di Hunter da Village?"
It seems like his tribe’s naming system would be similar to what some of those Italian Renaissance folks used.

>>1745343
Oh yea that hits me right in my agrarian bias.

>>1745347
>Problem with the Mantle drill is that it takes like 5 energy sources to power the damn thing, we could just use those 5 energy sources to make Fissile materials instead.
The mantle drill would provide more steel however. It may be something you want to try when you've acquired huge amounts of power like say, repairing hoover dam or conquering the NCR.

Or who knows, you may find something else on your journeys

>>1745356
I like that, and i'm not just saying that cause i'm Italian.

>>1745341
"Thank you Brain, Kreger, you are truly my greatest allies."

That settles it, we need to take the Divide hard and fast. We can commit our spaceship, seeing as we can apparently repair it semi-reliably, and maybe the vertibird, since ground invasion works so slowly. Using the jury-rigged inertial engines we developed and then did NOTHING with to create a decent cargo ship to bypass the logistical hassle of moving large quantities of heavy material all that way would also be a godsend, and eliminate the need for roads and rails while opening entire new avenues for vehicular science.
>>1745347
>>1745361

With this in mind and the Brain and Kreger explicitly saying "Hey dumbass, literally all the shit you need is right there", and the fact that the divide will remain uncontested the entire time we claim it, the only logical option is to secure it as quickly as we possibly can.

>>1745377
yup, that's what we're doing.

>>1745377
The Divide is right above us we don't need to build the airship for it.
Utah on the other hand will need it.

>>1745277
Those are quality changes - supporting.

>>1745148
"I disagree'd with Mommy and the others.

It was very hard to do!

When Mommy and Unity have a question or a problem, they all think together. Everyone has different ideas, and different ways they see things. Then they all get together to see things from everyone else's way, and hear all the other ideas. Mommy says since everyone is informed and sees from all perspectives, the best idea naturally is agreed on. This happens very fast and all the time.

Well, I disagreed! I think I'm the only one. Mommy thought it would take a lot of 'willpower' to disagree even when everyone agrees. But I think Mommy talks louder than everyone else.

I disagree'd that I felt bad that you won't let me talk to my best friend."

>>1745453
Wait, did we ban her from talking to the forcaster, or did we just tell her he couldnt come with us to NCR?

>>1745453
>I disagree'd that I felt bad that you won't let me talk to my best friend.
I don't understand this, is she saying she doesn't feel bad?

>>1745176
>>1745161
"I know you love me daddy. I love you too.

If I can talk to you, I want to know why you are afraid of Clay. He's nice to me. I don't think he'd hurt me. The monsters he killed were evil, like the monsters you kill all the time. You eat their meat, he eats their soul."

>>1745182
"Chores.

Well, Joeclyn says normally she doesn't let people my age join the Rats. But she says I'm taller and smarter than someone should be at my age.

She's asking me to join the rats. I want to."

>>1745474
She's saying she feels bad about it, but the hivemind says everything rationally points she shouldn't feel bad about it.

But she thought about it very hard and decided she wanted to feel bad about it.

>>1745467
You did both.

>>1745475
>The difference is we let there souls pass on, we don't force them to become with us.

>>1745484
"They were very bad monsters daddy. They were planning to hurt us.

He won't keep their souls forever. Just while he is alive. He needs them to be strong because he says there will be more evil things he needs to fight in the future."

>>1745475
Being a destroyer of evil does not make someone good. While Clay did hurt bad monsters, We believe it was done for his own purposes, which can end with you getting hurt.

It is important to judge not just the action, but also the motive.

You can join the rats. But also go to school, keep up with you're studies. Now that you're not part of Unity, you have to learn things on your own.

>>1745475
>He's nice to me. I don't think he'd hurt me.
"I can understand that but i have to tell you something, even if you don't think he would hurt you doesn't mean he won't, i am your father and i worry about you Sam, and i don't want any harm to come upon you. So if i can't convince you to stop talking to him then i can only do one thing to guarantee your safety and that is teach you how to defend yourself, whether against a stranger, clay or even me, that way if he does anything bad you can just hurt him worse."
>The monsters he killed were evil, like the monsters you kill all the time.
"And people used to shoot ghouls on site cause they thought they were monsters too, but you know their appearance doesn't make them bad right? The it's the same with the people underground, just cause they felt evil doesn't make them evil, we don't know who they were or what kind of life they had and now we never will, if you think that's for the better than you have the right to believe that, but i won't trust a single person's account of an entire community."

>>1745519
Like what? What has he told you sweetie? And I just want you to know that I'm scared of losing my little Sunshine and your mother.

>>1745475
>Clay
Who's Clay? Is that the Forecaster's real name?

>>1745531
Supporting

>>1745544
Yes

>>1745544
yes

>>1745531
Supporting

>>1745531
>and that is teach you how to defend yourself
Sam's eyes light up.

"I would really like that daddy! I would be able to impress Joeclyn too if I knew skills like that."

CHOOSE:
>What would you like to teach your daughter? Probably everything but anythig specific or to start with?

>>1745531
"But he did know daddy. He tried to sneak among them by pretending to be their friend. He found out they were planning to sacrifice us to their evil god."

>>1745534
"He doesn't know. He just says he's scared."

>>1745475
>He's nice to me.
Sometimes people pretend to be nice to get closer to people.

I'm not saying that Clay is doing that - I just want you to be cautious around others. You can always trust your family, everyone else should be treated with some suspicion.

>>1745579
>What would you like to teach your daughter? Probably everything but anythig specific or to start with?
Well if the prophecy says Clay is gonna use a knife Unarmed combat is a must, we should also teach her how to spot lies and charmers, some survival skills and some mental fortitude in case Clay tries any Psychic powers on her.

>>1745579
Teach her gun safety first and unarmed combat

>>1745597
>>1745599
Supporting.

>>1745599
support.

So do we try to harness the forecaster's psyker shit (since everyone else very clearly is trying to get their own), or do we just try and minimize his power?
So far, I'd say he's more of an asset than a liability, according to Sam.
>>1745396
I wasn't thinking an airship necessarily, more sort of like a floating cargo barge. Basically a big floating pseudo-truck that'd eliminate the need for roads or rails, and might be more energy efficient thanks to the lack of friction.
>>1745597
>>1745599
Supporting as well

>>1745579
>But he did know daddy. He tried to sneak among them by pretending to be their friend. He found out they were planning to sacrifice us to their evil god.
"And he's the only one who knows that firsthand, as i said i won't trust a single persons account of an entire community. Do you know when i first met the Unity i thought they were bad too, but i learned later that wasn't the case, the same could have happened with the underground people but now well never know."

>>1745622
I don't think we can make a Inertia drive for a truck sized aircraft, it's limited to airships.

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1745599
Roll me 1d100

Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1745655

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>1745655
>4
What does it mean?

>>1745597
>Well if the prophecy says Clay is gonna use a knife Unarmed combat is a must,
Why's that? Does Unarmed Combat counter Melee Combat? Or is that in case of an ambush?

>>1745663
>Why's that? Does Unarmed Combat counter Melee Combat? Or is that in case of an ambush?
I am assuming unarmed combat includes techniques against a opponent wielding a knife.
Please correct me if i'm wrong QM.

>>1745671
Not in game actually, that falls under melee combat skills though yes unarmed will help teach one how to deal with someone who is armed.

However, in your opinion the first rule of unarmed combat should be "do not be unarmed."

>>1745695
Ah, then teach her Unarmed combat and melee combat on top of everything else i listed.

>>1745695
Hmm. Does she have shapeshifting powers? If she can make a knife whenever she wants, then we should teach her how to knife fight.

>>1745655
>>1745659
It's very strange for Sam, she says.

"I always could just ask mommy or someone to know something, now I can't. Hmmmm."

So she decides to "relearn" the basics of riflemanship, melee combat, and others from you. Her muscle memory is lacking, but she's a sharp learner.

And surprisingly strong. Her grip packs a whallop and you believe she could break your hands easily.

But you know from experience strength is not everything, and so teach her the basics of melee and unarmed combat. She feels proud to know these things now "all by herself."

>>1745709
She tries to shapeshift, its very hard. She tends to melt back into a blob and its sort of become natural for her to assume her human form.

It's also rather disturbing to watch. I mean, besides the melting part, seeing her attempt to grow a bone claw out of her hand "like some of Mommy's fighters." It also hurts, but then she learns how to minimize the sensation of pain too.

She's a sharp learner and you feel the potential for her is great, though you wonder if it would be greater if she were still part of the Unity.

---

Rest of the turn incoming.

>>1745744
Hold on we haven't taught her how to detect lies and resist charmers, do we have to dedicate another hero action to do that?

>>1745744
Im actually proud of our little monster.

>>1745751
As for that, you test her on logic and detecting holes in alibi's, as well as how to read people's emotions.

In regards to logic she's brilliant.

In regards to reading emotion. . .not so much. Evidently she was very reliant on actually feeling emotions telepathically, such that subtleties in speech are, frankly, poor for her. Hmmm, could be why she was attracted to a mind reader who could see that type of thing a bit more clearly.

Another thing to keep up her lessons on.

>>1745763
Gotta max that perception.

>>1744651
>>1744709
>>1744680
>>1744814
It takes a lot of convincing and talking, but eventually you convince the holdouts to give it a try. Maybe not all of the augments, but most anyway.

Thankfully it seems none of them regret it so far. On the upshot Cass' heart problem is no more, fixed by the Auto-Doc.

All your available human companions and scientists have been augmented

Hey who wants to archive the last thread?

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The LAER Securitron is a simple enough design. 20 LAER Hazard bots have been passively produced and are being shipped to the frontline.

---

The Chinese have made good use of the Steel. They are sending in 3 entire Platoons of Men! 1 Platoon is built around the Bawang Tank already built. 1 Platoon are armed with 2 "Lóng Tanks" which apparently means flamethrower tanks equipped with napalm.

They have also produced 1 single artillery platoon, based around a self propelled long range artillery gun! This one has a built in autoloader and electronic targeting system (though it needs to be fed Radar information) and fires either conventional HE shells or incendiary napalm shells. Boomers ain't got nothing on this. . .

Each platoon has a contingent of 2 or 3 squads of men each, including crew. However they all are equipped with Old World basic Hazmat suits. These are suitable enough for surviving in normal divide conditions, but not enough to protect against sandstorms and the like thus their crews will necessarily be relegated to be close to shelter and safety, and will have to take cover during Divide storm.

The Chinese request new protective suits specifically for conditions in the divide.

>>1745923
Agree to the suits, ask if we can see the designs for those weapons they have.

>>1745908
Gimme a description.

>>1745923
fine, well get around to it.

>>1745939
The NCR pushes The Legion, We discover nuclear alchemy, The Divide campaign begins.

>>1745939
Went to see the Legion, Discover Nuclear Alchemy, prepare for Divide Campaign, and find out about NCR war efforts

>>1745936
You need to research the suits.

The Chinese have several blueprints from their warfactory actually.
>Main Battle Tank
>Rotary Autocannon Tank
>Stealthed Communications Truck
>Armored Troop Transport
>Electromagnetic Scrambler Tank
>Self Propelled Howitzer
>Atomic Cannon
>"Bawang" Tank

There are apparently more than this, but one would have to get clearance from China to unlock other advanced vehicle types.

>>1745964
What's their Main Battle tank like?
Also last thread is now archived.

>>1745964
Alright for now they have to make due. We're going to get the suits ready when we get the chance

Also some cool designs that will be useful for us.

>>1745971
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Battlemaster_tank

>>1745964
They also have a flamethrower tank, unless that requires clearance.

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>>1745971
Propaganda would put the Chinese Main Battle Tank as superior to anything the Americans could field.

Realistic tactical knowledge show that while perhaps not the most sophisticated tank of the Old World, they were easy to produce and had decent armor and firepower. Which are good traits for any tank, especially in your case.

The conventional design is powered by gasoline, but later in the war a newer, faster design was based around nuclear engines. These however, had a terrible tendency to explode and leak radiation when a tank was destroyed so more stable and expensive isotopes had to be used.

may pass out, going to try to put out this turn update

>>1745996
Can't we improve their designs to modernize them?

BY THE WAY

IF YOU HAVEN'T YET VOTE ON THIS>>1744437

>>1746200
Make 2 Stations with just classics and one for the new music with Jazz in it.

>>1746200
ANTHEM:
Well the old anthem is already about surviving what should have been an end, so the imagery still stands as is.

So it becomes simple syllable replacement.
instead of star span-gled ban-ner, we could have
"flame-bird-touched ban-ner"

the instance of "broad stripes and bright stars" can just have the stars made singular, because we have only 1 star on the flag.

>>1746196
Certainly, though BigMT wasn't heavy into tank research but you can start modifying them.

It may be easier to apply upgrades than to alter the blueprints however, as the War Factory is specifically designed to produce them as they are and changes are made difficult by the programming being in Chinese. So jurry rigging is likely.

Although, per stipulation in the treaty you signed the Chinese would like to retain the rights to use Chinese equipment in their army.

>>1744437
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music

>People like Moreno would want the old Anthem, and it would make our ties to the Old World stronger. Perhaps a newer rendition is in order instead, rather than some old holotape. That would please the traditionalists.

Can't find if I voted yet, if so ignore 1.

In regards to the Anthem, you have decided to keep the tune and most of the Lyrics as they are still relevant.

Perhaps, even more so considering how the beacon of liberty and freedom is surrounded upon all sides by tyrrany.

The only adjustment will have to be Star Spangled Banner in regards to the new flag, you're working on something right now.

>con't

>>1744437
two stations for classics and swing.
Also include actual classical music in the classics station if possible.

three votes for modifying the words for the anthem with specifics.
>>1745277
>>1745414
>>1746204

>>1746214
Rather than two dedicated stations, can we have 1 with just different programming blocks.

6am to 6pm - Patriotic music
6pm to 6am - modern swing + old world classics

3 News breaks at 8am, midday and 8pm co-hosted by Mr New Vegas and Mrs New Washington.

>>1746204
Oh say do you see?
We survived the great fight
And though the trials arent done
Its our freedom we won
By the replicataaar
We make power from air
We proved through our pride
That the Phoenix will arise

>>1746223
Just make two music stations. Keep the news breaks the same for each station.

>>1746230
>Just make two stations
Why should we be wasteful?

>>1746230
Works for me if that is technically feasible.

I just didn't want to cut into the number of listeners who hear our news segments by making two stations.

QM, did we upgrade the radio transmitter with that tech we found to boost the range?

>>1746235
>Keep the news breaks the same for each station.
In my post just make the news happen at the same time, and it's the same thing. Allowing people that hear any of the two stations able to hear the news.

As people who don't like Swing music don't listen to the late news.

>>1746229
These lyrics feels like they need to be read after we defeat one of the factions.

>>1746235
We went digital already, so we're all good on that front.

>>1746241
*Feels like they need to be sung

>>1746229
Supporting this for anthem lyrics, breddy gud
>>1744437
>that's a good idea
We really need to distinguish ourselves, since the QM is making the other assorted factions have actual fucking cultures unlike in the games. Getting some specific music and developing a vibe will go a long way towards that

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Dean Domino was very finnicky about the tempo and sound of the new recording. You suspect he wasn't much of a patriot before the war, but damned if he isn't a professional. He goes to Baker with a heap of Dr. 8's sound equipment where their Cathedral has much better acoustics. Even though the entire place is like "walking a nightmare".

Unity doesn't seem to mind he conducts blindfolded.

You come up with the new lyrics. You figured it out. Keep the old lyrics, but make your own addition.

It all comes together. Your words. Unity's voice (she makes a mean chorus) and Dean Domino's touch.

The End Result goes live. You ask Moreno how he feels.

He won't admit it, but you suspect he's in tears smiling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0GFqrCcwes

>Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
>Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight
>O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
>And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air
>Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there
>Oh, say, does that Firebird's Banner yet wave
>O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

>And still we can see as the years have gone by
>There's a dream in our land, like the flame that is burning
>And the lantern of hope from the harbor still shines
>Those who seek free doms’ dreams to it's light are still turning
>Now we look to the skies and we lift up our eyes
>For we know with the dawn we will see our flag rise!
>And this is our Firebird's Banner unfurled
>As a sight to the free, and a hope to the world!

>>1746229
You jot this down as as an option for a personal victory addition once you win the war or unite America again.

>>1746262
>We really need to distinguish ourselves, since the QM
Yeah, agreed.

That was the idea behind this nationalistic culture push. Our people need to know what we stand for and why it is better than the other factions.

Hopefully all of these actions will have helped with that.

Anyone have additional elements for the Courier's book?

>>1746279
Well, It could do with another syllable between firebird and Banner, but it's good stuff.

>>1746285
>Anyone have additional elements for the Courier's book?
How about economy? What kind are we going for?

>>1746279
Perfect.
>>1746285
We should be sure to emphasize the opportunity present in the NPC. The NCR is honestly doing a fantastic job of pushing national socialism, and we're working with a similar base, with our book basically being a response to Yaunker's, even being similar in basic tenets. We need to make sure that the average wastelander fuck reading it will be able to understand that you can live a good life in the NCR, but only in a place like New Washington can you truly soar.

I think the Courier's personality will really shine through and put a good spin on things to help the differentiation, but I think he'd be bold enough and well-spoken enough to just cut straight to speaking in the 2nd person in the book, and address readers directly to illustrate the differences. I think something blunt like that would really get through to the average wastelander.

When you come up with new ideas that you all agree on, tack them in your hero action (as long as that hero action lets you write) so I know its consensus when the vote goes through.

Now for the turn calcing

>>1746279
Absolutely cracking!

Now to play it over the air waves and have it sung in our school every Friday morning.

>>1746296
Mix of private enterprise and state control.

Mass replicators and robots render most conventional jobs meaningless, in an almost post-scarcity way.

Everyone will receive a basic income to guarantee a base living standard. If they want to work on top of that - say if they enjoy carpentry and make chairs, they can sell them in an open market.

Replicators obviously remain under state control; but do we allow the individual ownership or robots, or are citizens just 'leasing' them from the state?

>>1746311
We didn't talk with that one supermutant yet, and we were going to.

>>1746319
Oh right.

>>1746317
iirc, we agreed that outside of basic rations and housing, citizens would otherwise be on their own in terms of employment and payment. So, for instance, they could certainly own whatever robots they pleased (as long as it didn't chafe our taint), but if they somehow fucked up hard enough for them to go bankrupt, they'd at least have a government subsidized house, food, and essentials to fall back on.

Right now we're basically a state dictated economy due to the necessities of gearing a nation of a few hundred for war with nations of several hundred thousand, but this will eventually relent, and we'll see much much more private enterprise begin to take off as we saw in the boxcars.

>>1746317
I disagree with the basic income thing, unless you mean the food and housing welfare.
Other than that i agree, however i believe we should also promote small artisan businesses rather than just let people work if they want to.

>>1746317
>Everyone will receive a basic income to guarantee a base living standard.

Lolno, They do something they get to sell it and make money. We don't support freeloaders. And Replicators are strictly state controlled.

>>1746317
No to basic income, they work to get money to buy the goods and services they want. Their needs are in the most part safe.

We need to promote a good work ethic, that they make business and make wealth. It help us more if the people are making their own factories.

>>1746354
>We need to promote a good work ethic, that they make business and make wealth.
I agree but i rather we promote a work ethic of refining craftsmanship, inventing and contributing to the community instead of wealth.

>>1746317
I support that.

>>1746332
>>1746341
Yeah I'm fine with these.

By 'basic income' I just meant government provided basiscs - housing, food, utilities.

Cool, sounds good. Where do we stand on private weapon ownership, ala 2nd Amenment? Personally, all for it.

Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.

I wonder what the NCR's policy on private weapon ownership is, probably against it given the dictatorship. Would be a good point of differentiation about us trusting our citizenry with the security and survival of the state.

>>1746365
I agree.

We could always make a custom replicator that only makes civilian items - food furniture the like, and put them in a public building for people to use / spend their income on.

>>1746365
>Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.
So unamerican of you even for Old world America.

People should be able to buy a Mr.Handy for their home or place of work. We should train the people in a event of total mass attack from foreign powers. Only a few days of the year.

>>1746362
They need a work ethic to do the refining and other things

>>1746373
That would be a possibility.

>>1746375
>They need a work ethic to do the refining and other things
Yes, which is why i'm supporting the worth ethic?

>>1746375
We could have them do 2-3 years of civil service, which includes the military, Ala Switzerland.

>>1746365
Good on second amendment. Folks who have lived through the rough periods like these are gonna be loathe to give them up.

Some weapons should be restricted of course, Super hi-end tech that our military use and AOE weapons like fat men will not be available to the general public. Eventually though, the regulations can be relaxed to allow mil-tech but still no explosive/AOE weapons.

>>1746365
>Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.

No thank you mate.

>>1746373
That is an excellent idea!

>>1746365
I'm honestly not sure about the weapons. Disintegrators are so stupidly dangerous that there really shouldn't be any way for the average pleb to get their hands on one. Everything else should probably have a military-grade distinction on what's cool and what isn't though, from melee weapons to energy and laser stuff. Could probably have more restrictions lifted for former military and be fine though, especially with the augs.

The robots seem like an obvious "no" to everything but potential robot factories (though I really doubt we'll see anything that could match us turn up on a private scale), and that would require significant government oversight.

>>1746373
This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, but can probably be delayed by making sure there's damn good security on the things. Maybe just make really sure that the dispensers are too small for anything dangerous, so even if they get hacked they don't have the capability to manufacture weapons or anything.

>>1746375
>>1746385
So the public should be able to own their own Securitrons and Fatmen?

Seems like a dangerous position to hold...

>>1746382
In Austria they also have compulsory Military Service

>>1746389

Community dispensers. One big one that can fabricate most things. Allow us to keep an eye on whats being produced and create a centre of community where folks congregate to share schematics and generally mingle/hang out.

>>1746365
Yeap. Supporting government aid in housing, food, water, and basic necessities like education, internet and ability to communicate over it, plus the likes. Even a small amount of basic income.

It's actually how some of the most notable futurologist have calculated that the future will hold for us with ever increasing automation and robotization.

Naturally however, it will not come for feee, so if you're on gov support, you're expected to perform certain duties for the betterment of the community.

>>1746365
You picked up some NCR legal info on your way there, while passing through the state owned gun store.

"After a near century of Corporate parasitism tore at the structural fabric of society, a rapidly expanding divide between the people and the Corportions prompted the enactment of the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions previously tacked on by Corporate Lobbyst and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this law, all Californians can possess firearms and required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition.

The law restricts ownership of firearms to "persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." This law revoked the previous Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which severely restricted gun ownership and sales to profit the corporations.

As of now, in the NCR:
>Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition and completely deregulates the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.
>The legal age at which guns could be purchased is lowered from 20 to 18
>Permits are valid for three years, rather than one year.
>More classes of users are exempt from the requirement to hold an acquisition permit: holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and state party members are no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions.
>Manufacture of arms and ammunition requires a government permit, with the provison that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Tribals; Tribals can not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.

>>1746398
So if you're on government support, you're given a job. Makes sense. Yaunker is doing that for the NCR's sweet 0% unemployment.

>>1746395
Oh, that sounds pretty good. Long as there was some constant, decent security that'd probably be just dandy. I'm sure that'll produce all kinds of culture all on it's own.

We should set something like that up soon as we have the energy to, to help bolster the culture and give the citizens a new toy

>>1746392
>So the public should be able to own their own Securitrons and Fatmen?
I say Mr. Handy in my post. Robots that was used for the people before the great war.

Fatmen, well they need to get a permit for that. :^) And other one for the ammo :^) And so many permits :^) that you only allow to buy it while in the military, and only use it in the military :^)

Permits will give us all the money we need.

>>1746404
>Long as there was some constant, decent security

This is also a society where everything and anything you do is recorded on CCTV. Frankly, we should be fine.

>>1746401
Ah fuck, they're out nazi-ing us and out-freedoming us.

How do we prove that we're the superior, more liberated state while maintaining our megalomaniacal god-emperor control?

>>1746398
>so if you're on gov support, you're expected to perform certain duties for the betterment of the community.
Like for instance, making sure citizens pick up those cans.

>>1746412
>while maintaining our megalomaniacal god-emperor control?
We don't necessarily have to, we could form a council if more of our companions stepped up to the plate and stopped idling.

>>1746401
Hmm...much more free than I thought it would be.

The permit system does disguise the fact that government individuals can own a lot more than private individuals can.

It basically sounds good, but beuracratic red tape could tie you up.

>>1746401
>state party members are no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions.
Get hyper numbers of members by giving them no restrictions Hmmm

>>1746417
It means that all of them are armed, and it be crazy to attack them. As we'll have militias popping up everywhere.

>>1746417
We did throw around the idea of thorough identification of everyone- government mandated ID and such,

>>1746416
>implying we would ever want to relinquish power in anything other than name
See, I feel that that's the obvious moral choice, but seeing as we are a literal superhuman that may not even ever actually die if we're not stupid, I'm not sure why we would ever allow the state to turn to anything more elective than an aristocratic/minimally-parliamentary monarchy.

The companion bit I agree with completely, however. The sooner we can find ways for most of them to get off their asses reliably, the better

So we seem to be in agreement of our economy, if someone could organize what we agreed too for our hero action that would be great.

>>1746416
Just God-Emperor from behind the scenes. Make a Senat and just tell them what to do. Do you think Tandi got re-elected for 40 years because she was cool?

Also, since we have under 1000 people this is not a problem for now. Shelve it until we reach 100 times that.

So does anyone feel like relaxing our gun laws at all to compete, or do we not feel the need?

Frankly, I wouldn't mind if we had a better standing police force. Only problem is that our police are also soldiers, and will probably remain such for a good while.

>>1746426
>>1746428
A significant number of our population is composed of companions too.
>>1746401
This makes me wonder, how much of our population is active?

>>1746434
I don't really see a reason. We should get eyebots armed with stun weapons up once the population starts getting up there, but for now, things are going fine.

>>1746439
I say 250 to 300 adults the rest kids

>>1746439
>This makes me wonder, how much of our population is active?
I was thinking that too. What do our people actually /do/ day to day? Beyond those that are in the military or are scientists.

>>1746444
OP said they work on the farms, few of them are cooks

>>1746444
Probably just assorted farmers. I sincerely doubt Brain would allow genuine layabouts without informing us.

>>1746444
I believe they farm.

>>1746444
>>1746449
>>1746450
>inb4 we're more inefficient than the NCR and Legion.

>>1746456
>inb4 we're more inefficient than the NCR and Legion.
Yep, all the more reason we have to build more solar farms.

>>1746456
Man to man, there's no goddamn way. We've got a few hundreds to their several hundred thousand, and we're managing to compete. Not well, but we are.

Not to mention, most of the NCR's recent tech boons have been a result of one weasly faggot making off with samples of OUR tech to reverse engineer, and he certainly won't be getting anymore thanks to our big brother system. In fact, the first chance we get, we should assassinate the bastard just so their head rat is gone

Are mayors a thing we want to start looking at setting up for our towns?

>>1746444
Well we have 203 humans.
40 of them are freeside rats, so children
20 are researchers
14 are hubologists
10 are combat medics
64 are in 8 squads of 8 man (general infantry)\
15 are in 2 squads, on 8 man, other 7 man, of heavy weapons.

so we have 40 farmers, assuming non of the remaining are children who are not freeside rats.

>>1746465
I'm still advocating the building of a ballistic missile to fire at his casino

>>1746465
Capture and retrieve. Then torture and mount his head on a chiuaua Mars Attacks style. Feed him rats.

>>1746444
Also exlcuding people with technical skills who become psudo-engineers working at the War Factory or keeping stuff running?

Farm, service industry, or housewife/home-father. Mostly farm, then service industry. Service industry includes stuff like helping Jannith cook, clean, and waiter/waitress at the kitchen. Scavenging for neat bits and things in around the BigEmpty (under spybot supervision of course). Or being a prostitute. Washing clothes. Unique small skills which you currently don't have robots for or aren't easily replicated by Alexa.

The Brain and James Bond strongly encourage people to be productive and without much more sophisticated schools, people learn how to farm.

Truth be told you could easily build enough Mr. Howdy's or agronators to remove even the need for human farmers. Or well, really, a lot of the service industries (cleaning, cooking, washing) can be replaced by Mr. Handy's in general.

>>1746476
Use the flame bucket and rat torture trick.

>>1746471
On that note, anyone have any ideas for actually growing our state at a reasonable speed? We're clearly going to have to push robot memes hard if we want to get anywhere, but how do we get our pop to grow when we can't really get immigrants and our people's ability to fug is limited?

>>1746477
>Unique small skills which you currently don't have robots for or aren't easily replicated by Alexa.
So lewd OP

>>1746478
>>1746476
>>1746475
At this point we'd be needlessly spiteful. Would be healthier for our people if we just write Oddball off, unless we get a golden opportunity.

>>1746475
Too obvious. Infiltrate and spray his ventilation with fish guts. Stick a virus in his system and bug out all gambling machines/AC. Freeze his business, then capture him and then ICBM his shitty little hut.

>>1746477
So we need to expand the school then.

>>1746476
>>1746478
>>1746485
Then caricature it in the most outlandish ways possible so everyone watching thinks it's just REALLY good special effects.

>>1746482
Alright slaves buying of course.
Getting tribe people, NCR must have them in the getto, or one of them civilizationism camps
Broadcasting people to join. (Spy risks)

>>1746482
Didn't we get immigrants once? We can get some more.

>>1746482
We're also pushing the culture of other people being dicks. I think we're forming alliances with some factions once we figure out the culture game to make them effectively vassals.
>>1746495
Yeah. We did a broadcast once and then stopped I think.

>>1746494
While we're buying slaves, why don't we try buying any of our captured people back?

>>1746495
just have to broadcast

>>1746494
The slave buying works, it's just a bit slow and not too cost efficient. Hadn't thought of the tribes though, could probably just wow them with all the neat shit and have things work out with some propaganda.
>>1746495
When did that happen?

>>1746477
Funnily enough, this reminds you the Courier of the Story of Vault City.

Before their integration to the NCR, Vault City hired "servants" (better kept slaves according to Yaunker) to do all their hard and dirty work, and mercenaries to fight for them.

The native populace of Vault City itself then relegated to, what one person called, "jobs for octogenarian". Researchers, civil planners, engineers, repairmen, robotics experts, that sort of thing.

>>1746500
>When did that happen?
Like way back a number of threads ago, back in thread 13-15 I think.

>>1746494
Try and find the followers that left and incentivise having kids. Free days off or a helping Handy in the house if you go 3+ kids, for example.

>>1746502
Well we are basically doing that, replace servant with robot.

>>1746497
>>1746495
>>1746498
We did broadcast two times. One getting like 30s people, the second time the Enclave came and no people came, what up with that? People would have come for the second broadcast but didn't

>>1746500
Their could be Utah tribes not in the Crayon, or NCR would have some tribes in a getto somewhere.

>>1746482
Develop a Baby making fertility program that suggests people make babies with who they match with. Perhaps use Alexa to do so.

Develop an artificial womb type thing, and have wmnz donate ovary eggs to mass baby make

See if we can work around the brain problem when it comes to cloning.

More conventional methods
-buying/freeing slaves
-recruiting tribals
-recruitment beacon
-ask the NCR if THEY want to become a vassal state.

>>1746502
>>1746502
>Before their integration to the NCR, Vault City hired "servants" (better kept slaves according to Yaunker) to do all their hard and dirty work, and mercenaries to fight for them.
That sounds like an incredibly easy way to have a sudden, yet inevitable betrayal.
Also sounds incredibly Roman during its waning years, or what the other factions did during the 30 Years War.

I'm liking this session a lot, I feel like we're making a lot of quality progress on addressing the issues that've come about from our lack of direction. I don't know where all this cohesion came from, but it's fucking great.
>>1746506
>>1746511
>>1746512
Seems like more than anything, we're in agreement about trying to induct more tribespeople and broadcasting to get more immigration. We should do this soon, and try to keep the propaganda/big brother shit up with it so that we don't suffer a fall like Vault City did.

>>1746520
>I don't know where all this cohesion came from, but it's fucking great.
I think shitposts unifies us. It's like the propaganda is having a community effect here too.

>>1746517
The helot revolts in Sparta are partially to blame for their decline in power.

>>1746482
You know, were this any other civ game I'd say "encourage more families" but my Quest sort of runs on a much slower pace. Each turn being roughly a month (or less). Its not so much that your peoples ability to raise families is poor (in fact its probably great) but the timeframe to raise children to even 16 year olds.

Sam herself is only as smart as she is because of Unity. The rest of your children are still realistic 3-4 year olds.

Othergames handwave pop growth while allowing characters to not shrivel and die and I understand that perfectly, but in this case since we're working in Fallout timeframe it woudn't make sense for you to be a great grandfather in a few years.

>Brain
"Consider that, even where the NCR or Legion to be lax or emmigrants to slip through their grasp, the surrounding "Big Empty" is a fiery death trap of sand and a noted lack of water.

I imagine this is a major barrier to our immigration prospects, but may also be a reason why the Legion hasn't bothered with us.

>>1746520
We should really focus more on getting resources rather than population.

>>1746512
>Develop a Baby making fertility program that suggests people make babies with who they match with. Perhaps use Alexa to do so.
Sure, if two people get together faster they get more babies made. We can rig this, but no need with the womb idea.

>Develop an artificial womb type thing, and have woman donate ovary eggs to mass baby make
We can go selective breeding with this route, getting our sperm or other buy guys 4U and using it to get all the eggs ready to be grown. Since we have 10 in everything.