The wind had begun to howl as the afternoon snow storm continues to roll in, the evergreens that lined the dirt path to Whitestone Keep’s main gatehouse had begun to groan and bend. You hadn’t expected the storm to come in so quickly, the fine cloak that Ser Cador Belmore had gifted you whips about, annoying you to some degree, such needless frivolities. You push Warrior into a canter, hearing the call of the gatehouse guard’s horn to announce your arrival and are thankful for the relief that the grey walls of stone offer from the blistering cold and wind.

“Dangerous storm be rollin in m’lord,” one of the guards offers. And older man with a nose tipped with black, like to lose it soon. The ‘Bowmen shake off their own cloaks and huddle around the braziers set about to warm their hands. Last thing you wanted was for your men to lose fingers. You allow them their comforts and pull your cloak tighter to weather the courtyard and into the stables where you hand off your horse to the young stablehand. Young Parwyn Waynwood is waiting for your return to the Whitestone, idly looking about the sparsely decorated great hall.

“Ser, do you wish to change into warmer clothes?”

You pause and regard the boy for a moment, he is skinny you realize, a bit too much in fact, he hadn’t hit the full stride of his growth yet even at two-and-ten. You respond, “No squire. I’d rather not. Have you seen the Steward?”

“Maffew Shett?” he asks before shaking his head, “Ser, when will be begin my training? My brother never let me fight… Said I’d hurt myself. Only Auntie has able to convince him to let me squire.”

Well at least he was good with names but his words give you cause to pause and frown, “LAdy Waynwood you mean?”

“Yes, Auntie.”

“I hardly think the Lady would prefer to be called such outside of the privacy of her own home, squire. You will refer to her by her proper title, as a show of respect, as all men and women you have met and will meet are due. Are we clear?”

The boy is silent and looks at his feet before speaking again in a meek and mild voice, “Yes Ser, I understand.”

“Good. Prepare the chapel. I will take prayer after I speak with Maffew Shett, as will you.”

He nods and walks off, you continue wearing your frown before turning to leave the great hall and going down a side passage that lead to Maffew’s room. The Whitestone had a gorgeous vista you note, pulling your cloak tight again as you cross through an open window stone walkway that connected the main keep to a small squat tower that sat apart from the rest of the building. It had traditionally been the Maester’s quarters, the raven rockery held in the high peaked roof, his living quarters, infirmary and all other things that a Maester might need held in the three floors below that dug into the mountains below.

Maffew had taken to living there of late, he was the only one that knew how to handle the four or five ravens you had left and with enough of an eye for reading that could manage to decipher the old Maester’s records of the Earp’s books before your time. What ever did happen to Maester Varon you find yourself wondering occupying your mind as another walks away from the tower, shrouded in grey and brown cloaks they nod to you as you pass, hardly gaining a second look as you enter the tower.

“Maffew!” you call. A clatter of books and the rush of an open window rustling papers about the room answers your voice, you call again, “Maffew! I have letters that need to be penned and sent! Ser Trevor wrote them down... Here,” you say after a brief moment of searching your person for the Stormlander’s notes.

“Ah, well of course Ser! Of course!” Maffew’s voice finally calls back, popping his head around the corner, you note how red and out of breath he appears.

“Are you okay Maffew, a fever?”

He touches his forehead and cheeks, “Oh, um, a touch Ser,” he stumbles out, “A moment a moment.”

You walk up the small wooden stairway the splits the room in two, hand trailing on the wooden balcony that overlooked the old Maester’s work room, you push the door open to the living quarters and find a need to avert your eyes and sniff only to regret it immediately with the smell of musk hitting you like a brick wall, you grimace and say, “Maffew put some clothing on. Have you no shame? And small wonder you catch a fever, close the window.”

“I asked for a moment Ser,” he offers, turning in his full nudity to close the shutters before draping a robe over himself and tying it in the front. You frown at him but he waves it off, patting his forehead with a handkerchief and moving past you, “Letters?”

You produce the piece of paper that Ser Trevor Trant had given you, and he looks it over, “Ah yes this, Trevor asked me of it briefly. You plan to petition Lord Arryn for some ruins in the far flung northwest, for what purpose?”

“The Dawntower,” you state simply, “It was in Marston’s notes. House Earp had an old claim on it, being the builders. House Tollett took it in some dispute long ago, landed a Knight there. They died off, the land fell to ruin. I believe there are clansmen holed up there. House Earp’s old claims are now mine, I will press it and we will enact our law there and cleanse the ruins of the plague that are the Moon Swallows.”

He purses his lips and bobs his head from side to side, “Nestor Royce is the High Steward in the Eyrie. I see little reason why he would deny you your claim. I do not doubt it’ll ruffle Lord Badics feathers, but I doubt you care. House Tollett might be more than peeved, however, expect some sort of rebuke, even though the land now lays unclaimed...” he says trailing off as he writes, “I will find the appropriate papers and send them with a raven. Fortunately our raven to the Eyrie still knows his way. Next?”

“A letter to House Bordain.”

Maffew wears a look of worry at the name, “The Iron Lord, why? I thought you detested him?”

“I dislike him,” you say, “But he has the market cornered for superior arms in these parts of the Vale. I would like for you to write him and attempt to negotiate a more reasonable price for his arms. Four hundred dragons to arm a single company of men is robbery.”

“What do you plan to offer? Surely you know that the Iron Lord is married to the heiress of House Tollett, this is small chance that she will be fond of her Lord husband selling arms to a historical rival of her own House at a discounted price.”

You shrug and he frowns scribbling down some notes and pull another piece of paper, “Ser Trevor suggested we inform Lord Belmore that you will be coming to Strong Song. However it would appear he left the details of such a visit to the two of us,” he says his voice tilting with annoyance but he turns to you, with a look and a pointed finger in thought, “You will need to decide if you will go to him within the week or within the month, or not at all. But… Ser Landon, Trevor Trant seems to be of the impression that we will be asking for military aid. I am sorry if this is something the two of you had discussed but may I offer an opinion?”

You wave your hand wordlessly.

“House Belmore could offer us a line of credit, funds, to be repaid at a later date. The House still struggles Ser, we could use the funds to purchase more food stuffs, to arm our men properly. To… Hire a bloody Maester. Surely he would offer you a reasonable rate as you are his bannerman and friends with his heir. I would not suggest asking Lord Belmore for men, he would be more inclined to offer money in this way, as it makes the man a profit and assures your continued loyalty as if that were ever a question.”

You scrunch your face up, you honestly hadn’t ever considered asking for money before. It felt like begging, the idea of placing your House in debt felt...

Maffew raises his hands, “I know, I know. It is a very difficult, frightening thought, we um… Should consider it carefully yes? Or perhaps you would rather procure these funds through another agency? I still have contacts from Gulltown, the Bank of Bays in Pentos has been doing well these past years I understand, they have an emissary that serves Lord Grafton now, I could contact him? Or… Oh Seven, I nearly forgot the Faith! Surely they would offer a man such as yourself a line of credit.”

“Only if I were a Guardian of the Faith,” you recall in a short moment of knowing what you were talking about, adding with a bitter tone, “I am not even a Proctor.”

Maffew laughs, standing and searching for a moment, “I have been meaning to give this to you Ser, but with the Belmore visit, your busying yourself with the slaughter of mountain clansmen I hadn’t the time,” he hefts a package from the upper level of the room and with a degree of strain brings it down and places it before you,” he smiles, a crooked yellow thing, “Go on, open it.”

You finger the brown paper lightly, tracing the words on the packaging, “Where is it from?”

“The Great Sept of Baelor, King’s Landing, open it.”

The Great Sept? Surely they wouldn’t have heard of you… No, but… You felt an exhilarating pang of joy run through your body as you carefully open the package. Upon a brown satchel is a handwritten letter than Maffew scopes up as you open the drawstring and pull a pair of plate gauntlets from the bag. They are gorgeous things, shining brightly even despite their housing, fully articulated fingers, detail chased with silver the Seven Pointed Star of the Faith etched upon the top of the hands, detailed in red. There are words written about them all, verses of the old scriptures. Your face smiles despite yourself, “These are the Smith’s Gauntlets,” you whisper.

“Ser Landon Grallner of Whitestone Keep,” Maffew says with the most grandiose his voice will conjure, “We of the Faith confer upon you the honorary title of Proctor of the Faith, for your continued and fervent support of the church, her people both small and large, and for all future support you may provide. Do not think your actions go unnoticed, as the Faith sees and knows all deeds done by mortal man, particularly those done in their honor. As a token of our appreciation for your efforts we have sent the first of six pieces for the Plate of the Faith, the Smith’s Gauntlets, we hope it finds you in good health.

Again, we thank you for your service to the Faith and church Ser Landon. We do hope to hear of your continued endeavors to extortionate and honor the Faith through your actions.

Bless you Ser Landon Grallner, Knight of Whitestone Keep and Proctor of the Faith.

--High Septon”

You stare at him, mouth slightly ajar. You had hoped, dreamt in your childhood for such an honor some day. The old Septon had filled your head with songs and stories of the Champion of the Faith of his youth. A Noble Knight of the highest caliber. And how there hadn’t been one in the decades that had followed his death. A single step upon the long road towards an ambitious goal.

“Another step my Lord and you’ll be a Guardian,” Maffew says, “I wouldn’t recommend waiting but… These are your choices.”

How would you like to negotiate with Lord William Bordain?
Note: Maffew Shett will be negotiating for you, rolling a 4D-3 for Persuasion(Bargain).

>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
>Offer 6 units of Silver in exchange for a discount, you however will not have enough to give your usual monthly tithe to the Faith (+2 Bonus to roll)
>Offer nothing, merely relying on Maffew’s negotiating skills (0 Bonus to roll)
>Something else? (Write-in)

Invitation to Strong Song?
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the week
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
>Respond that you are unable to visit
>Do not respond at all

If/When you do visit Strong Song what do you wish to petition Lord Belmore for?
>Military aid, your own men are too green and spread too thin to deal with Moon Swallows effectively (Middle Difficulty)
>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)
>Both (High Difficulty)
>Nothing

>Faith Level: 2
>Faith Points: 0/25

You receive points based upon actions that the Faith would approve of, up to 3 at a time, depending upon the action and the importance of said action. Each time you level up the Faith will confer another title upon Landon that will come with benefits, examples; offering a line of credit, a Destiny Point, and a piece of the six piece full plate set. An incredibly rare and expensive piece of ceremonial armor that Houses devoted to the Faith cherish greatly if they even have a single piece, a full set is incredibly rare and prestigious.

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)

>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month

>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
We really need those weapons but I am not willing to give up 6 units of silver for that.

>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
I feel we need to hurt the Moon Swallows a lot more if we want to leave our lands unattended. If we win another battle like the one in the mine under a week I might be willing to change my vote.

>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)

Can we talk to Maffew about the letters from Belmore that he didn't mention to us, the stolen weapons in the armory?

>>1782468
Second

>this nigger can't even link his thread

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
>Offer to be a champion for him in a duel he requests
Rely on the skills you have Landon
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
Too many heathens on our land right now
>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)
Better to do it our self and get some trained units out of this.

>>1782476
Hey man that hurts. Yeah I know I suck.

Sorry about the super late post, had a doctor's exam that took way longer than I had expected.

Anyway, another thing to mention is this is how your resources break down at the moment.

You produce 15 units of silver a month. In order to keep your people, household, and military fed you need 15 units of Food, all of which is provided by House Belmore right now. The break down is as such
>2 Silver units:2 Faith Points - Faith tithe
>9 Silver units:15 Food units - House Belmore trade
>4 Silver free per month

You have 0 stockpiled. You are free to attempt to find better deals, attempt to renegotiate with Lord Belmore if you find the current deal unfair, make other deals with your freed up units for other things you might want, etc.

>>1782468
>Can we talk to Maffew about the letters from Belmore that he didn't mention to us, the stolen weapons in the armory?

That will come next.

>>1782488
Das all fine
Didn't mean to hurt you bby <3

>>1782488
>That will come next.
Any man sized windows in the room?

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)

>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month

>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
>Both (High Difficulty)

So is Landon just really oblivious to the fact that Maffew just got done having sex?

Landon reminds me a lot of Frederick IV of Denmark

Here is his wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_IV_of_Denmark

>Married Sophia Magdalene "was considered an unequal match for the Danish prince, but the king gave his permission. In Christian's letters, he describes his feelings for the princess's intense religiosity, which reminded him of his own."

>"The king was shy and introverted by nature, and stayed away from the public. Christian's indignation at his father's bigamy and general promiscuity – the reason for the great sorrow of his late mother – led him to one of his first government actions: reversing his father's will and depriving widow Queen Anna Sophie, (Frederick IV's third wife if all "marriages" are counted, second wife if bigamous marriages excluded), of a large part of the wealth she had inherited before exiling her to the Clausholm estate, her childhood home."

>"To posterity Christian VI is known foremost as a religious ruler. He was deeply devoted to Pietism, and during his entire reign he tried to impart its teachings to his subjects. The religious pressure he imposed, along with his lack of personal charm, made him one of the most unpopular of Denmark's absolutist kings"

He also built children's home for orphans and work houses for the people who could not find any meaningful enployment and created what would become the danish public school.

>>1782434
>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
>Nothing


>two cloaked people leaving maffews quarters
>Maffew naked and distracted

Nigga what are you up too?

>>1782517
He just got done fucking m8

>>1782531
Yeah but who?

chances are that is our leak

Rolled 6, 1, 3, 2 - 2 = 10 (4d6 - 2)

Alright, so it looks like offer 3 units of silver to the Iron Lord, go to Strong Song within a month, and ask for financial aid from Lord Benedar. Good stuff.

The roll on this post will be a 4D-2 and will be the result of Maffew's test. You will hear back from Lord Bordain with his response in about a fortnight since you must send a rider.

>>1782517
>>1782421

>What ever did happen to Maester Varon you find yourself wondering occupying your mind as another walks away from the tower, shrouded in grey and brown cloaks they nod to you as you pass, hardly gaining a second look as you enter the tower.

Yes what happen to Maester Varon, and who were the cloaked individuals was happen sex with?

>>1782531
Who exactly? Whores? Spies.

>>1782512
You mean Christian the VI not Frederick.

>>1782543
Fuck. I linked the wrong guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_VI_of_Denmark
>>1782512

>>1782434
>>Offer 3 units of Silver in exchange for a discount (+1 Bonus to roll)
>Respond that you will be answering the summons within the month
>Financial aid, your House yet struggled, and as your liegelord surely he would be able to offer you a fair line of credit (Low Difficulty)

>>1782531
you sure he wasn't beating off?

>>1782638

With the window open and two other people in the room?

“Send Lord Bordain an offer of three orders of silver, in exchange for a discount,” you say after thinking on it, “Surely even an Iron Lord can find use for silver.”

“In the raw or processed?”

“The raw,” you say, thinking on how low the supplies of your silver bars had become over the years as you attempted to keep the House afloat. The smelters were just now catching up and you’d have their resources to count upon again by the end of the month. Or so you were told.

“Easy enough then. But I warn you, the Iron Lord is a difficult man to haggle, not to mention his wife...” Maffew says scribbling more letters in what you assume is messy script but it all seems to your eyes, “The letter will take a fortnight, we have no raven for him, so I will need to send a rider, no doubt they will have heard of your claim upon the Dawntower by then,” he shakes his head and looks up at you, “And Lord Belmore?”

“Tell him we will visit within the month,” you say crossing your arms and leaning back, “And I believe you have the better of it Maffew. A loan could potentially put the House back upon its feet.”

“Well keep your options open, hm?” he responds not looking up, “If you think the terms unfair, perhaps we go to another? Seven knows Lord Belmore is already fucking us over a barrel, wouldn’t put it past-”

Maffew stops speaking as he notices the level and stern gaze you’ve fixed upon him and continues to scribble down his letters.

“That looks to be all Ser,” he says a few moments later. You had become distracted by turning the gauntlets over and examining every facet of the beautiful armor, it was ceremonial armor to be certain but it was incredible work all the same, an armourer beyond reproach had made this. Hand guided by the Smith himself. It brought pride to your heart. Maffew clears his throat, tightening his robe and looking to the door, “If that is all Ser..?”

You eyes leave the gauntlets as you slowly and carefully place them upon the table again, “It is not Maffew.”

He looks away, the sweat upon his forehead hadn’t left you notice, and he drums his fingers upon the table, “Landon I apologize for not informing you of the letters from Lord Benedar.”

“Yes, let us start there,” you respond leaning back slightly, your armor creaking in the cold, “Why?”

He mutters back and forth awhile, pursing his lips and finally breathing heavily, looking up at the ceiling, “I had thought I lost you. You use to be so ambitious, so… Driven. You were willing to fight for anything and everything. But as the years grew and winter came to the Whitestone you withdrew. Sequestered yourself away from us all. Seven you wouldn’t even allow me to join you for morning prayer anymore! We use to read the letters, remember? Together, at the beginning, you so desired to learn even on days when nothing came, where did that man go? He faded and so had your star...

So I thought… Well I thought, perhaps not enough, that if we ignored the letters long enough the Belmores would come here. Seeing Ser Cador again would surely reawaken your idle body. The spirit cannot be the only one fed Landon, you are two pieces that needed to act as a whole. And I understand if you are wroth with me for it. But I did what was necessary to return you to form.”

You sit back a frown fixed upon your face, his hands gripped the table, the nervousness in his voice having laxed for once, “Why were you so nervous before Cador then?”

“I find the man terrifying. During his years recovering from the injury inflicted upon him by Bronze Yohn he studied, he learned, he knows far more than any give him credit. If any man could find fault with me, that what I have done for this House to be lacking. It would be him, his mere look sends me to shivers… I am shamed to say.”

“Tell me why the Moon Swallows have uniforms, steel, weapons,” you say, “You keep our records. Do my armoury’s inventory. Surely you would have noticed it all having gone missing?”

“Because Ser Trevor Trant asked me to send that to the mines? The note said you were raising a peasant levy, send basics armanats, uniforms, and good steel for the leaders, that was a fortnight ago? I don’t bother to argue with the Knight-Commander, he spoke with your voice for so long. I assumed it to be true.”

“I did no such thing Maffew,” you say confusion upon your voice, “Show me the note.”

Maffew stands and goes to his files, picking through the various piles of books and scrolls until he lands upon it, and reads aloud “Maffew, send one hundred uniforms, fifty bows, ten quality steels blades to the mines. Do it with discretion and update accordingly. --Trevor”

You sit straight, your face screwed up further, surely Ser Trevor Trant could not be betraying you? He was the most honorable man you knew, personally, he wouldn’t, couldn’t do that to you.

“Landon what’s going on?” Maffew asks nervously, “You have never taken such interest in our records before. Calling upon Marston’s, Seven rest his soul, field reports, asking of the armoury. What is happening?”

>What do you wish to ask Maffew Shett?
Notes:
To keep this more in line with Landon’s personality type we will be doing this differently from here on out. Landon now has 3 questions to ask, to be decided by the majority of the group, offer your suggestions and we will vote if necessary.

>>1782672
>Do you know anyone in the castle who smells of Lavender?

>>1782672
>How much did it take for you to betray my House.

>>1782672
First check the note for a peculiar smell(lavender, because even if we don't know it's lavender we can link the scent with our new knight).

"It says update accordingly, did you ever speak to ser Trevor personally about this?"

(also do we know how trevor signs his letters?)

Why did you not confront me about this before?

Who was the first person to head of Marston?

>>1782672
this>>1782718

We can't read so it could easily be him reading a fake note to us

>>1782672
>>1782718
Support also keep the note.

>>1782663
jesus, I'm as dense as Landon. Didn't even connect the people leaving with him.

>>1782718
supporting, let's keep the note so our new knight can smell it. He's from a noble house, he'll probably know what lavender smells like

>>1782718
Alright these three look to be the most popular. Side actions allowed as well, as they are rather smart. Writing.

Can we ask Maffew to teach us to read and if so why haven't we learnt it yet

“May I have that?” you ask offering a hand. Maffew hands it to you with little fuss, taking his seat beside you once more. You sniff at the parchment, and he gives you a queer look, it smelled of paper, not any flowers so far as you were aware but you keep it all the same, “The letter says accordingly? Did you ever speak to Ser Trevor regarding this?”

“As I said Ser, I saw no need,” he says, “Until a few days past you hardly did more than wake, pray, eat, train, eat, pray, sleep. Beside the dislike the man holds for me, Ser Trant spoke for you regarding military matters, I will admit I was excited and thought it to be the first step in you awaking. When I heard that the clansmen had these weapons and uniforms I… I didn’t know what to do. I gave them to the scouts to deliver when they went up to the Mines a fortnight ago and that is all the more I knew of them.”

You sigh, “The same scouts I just found were made up of traitors and turncloaks? I just finished executing one, Eli?”

Maffew sucks in air quickly and buries his head in his hands, “It was him.”

“I had thought as much,” you say examining the letter which you glean zero new information from though you frown at the foreign words, you knew how to write your own name down, and it was always a long and arduous process of titles and letters, suppose that is growing longer now. You frown, wondering if Trevor always signed his letters so impersonally, that didn’t sound like him very much at all, not if he was anything like you.

“Why did you not confront me about this before?” you ask.

Maffew gives you a look from behind his hands, “Why would I? I wanted to you reawaken, assuming you were raising levies filled me with hope, but I did not want to push too much knowing Ser Cador would be arriving so soon. As for after when I heard of the clansmen’s attack and the turncloaks, I would suppose embarrassment? Shame? Though I am more shamed now that you stand before me thinking I had something to do with this, that is what this is about isn’t it?”

You ignore his question, “Who was the first to see Marston’s head in the great hall?”

Maffew pauses, his face in frowns, “Lady Jeyne Stone and Lady Wylla Earp. Ser Trant and Ser Belmore came running once they heard the screaming. I was there last, Ser Trevor can attest to this. Landon, I… I would not betray you. I only wanted the best for you, for your family, your father was my mentor. I still hold love in my heart for Lady Lelianna. And you are like the son I never had, may never have even. Perhaps my actions were rash and without thought but I have nothing to do with these things. I swear it, by my mother’s grave, by the Seven. I… I’m hurt Landon, that you could ever think a thing of me such as that.”

You look away and go to stand, his hand grips your forearm and he looks at you, you speak, “I said none of those things Maffew. Your mind wanders too easily, look to the Faith for guidance and calm.”

Leaving the tower you close the door, being smacked by the raging winds and snow once again. Your mind was a mess, you did not know who to trust. What to believe. You curse your inability to read but remember that Maffew had spoken some truths, you had grown lax in the years since the Rebellion. There had been a spurt of greatness, but perhaps it had been more of necessity than anything. Your Faith surrounded and guided you, but had you strayed from the path? The heavy gauntlets under your arm said no. But a part of your heart said yes.

>What to do now?
Something you’d like to do, someone you’d like to see, talk to?
Or just time skip to the next major event?

>>1782862
Go see ser Trevor, make sure we have our sword with us though.

>>1782862
See Trevor. Confront him with sword at our side.

>>1782862
As... Difficult as this may be, we could ask the young lady to read the letter for us, she probably has nothing to do with this considering she's 9. It could confirm Maffew's words at the very least considering we can't trust him or our knight.

>>1782862
Call Trevor, Lady Jeyne Stone, Maffew and Lady Wylla to the main hall. We have matters to discuss, and it's best out in the open.

>>1782862

Push him further, who were your guests in cloaks? No more secrets if he wants to regain our trust. He should have come to us the moment he realize something was wrong.

>>1782862
>see trevor sword at our side
Trust no one but your own blood

>>1782911
No sorry. You've reached your question limit.

Anyway looks like we have two options here so let's vote:
>Go to Ser Trevor Trant, sword on your side
>Call everyone to the great hall and have a very open discussion

>>1782939
>>Go to Ser Trevor Trant, sword on your side

>>1782939
>>Go to Ser Trevor Trant, sword on your side

>>1782939
>>Call everyone to the great hall and have a very open discussion

>>1782939
>Go to Ser Trevor Trant, sword on your side

>everyone immediately jumping on the don't trust this person train

Y'all dense as fuck, it's clearly not Maffew or Trevor. Someone is playing Landon so he thinks he can't trust his two most important advisors. It's either the Earp girl or Jeyne Stone working for her.

>>1782939
>>Call everyone to the great hall and have a very open discussion

>>1782965
Why I wanted everyone out in the open. But nooooooooo anons can't suspect wimmen.

Vote for open meeting

>>1782965
>Our nemesis is a 9 year old girl.

With how dense Landon is, I can actually believe that.

>>1782965
I'm not though, I'd rather not have a stupid everyone lie-ing contest in the main hall or whatever.

>>1782985
So duel Trevor to the death instead. Gotcha

>>1782939
>Call everyone to the great hall and have a very open discussion

>>1782981
For real, plenty of people have a reason to hate Landon.

>>1782981
Landon is a blunt person its entirely in character for him to just go and demand explanations from people.

Calling it here. Open meeting wins.

>>1783006
Seeing Trevor had more votes though.

>>1783009
3 AND 3

>>1782993
I ain't gonna vote for dueling him, I just want to talk with him

>>1783009
I'm counting 3 for Trevor, 4 for Open from the point where I opened a vote.

>>1783016
I only see three discussion

Oh wait, that's a double vote there. Forgot to check IDs.

Alright, I'm just going to go ahead and go with the open meeting because, to be honest, it'll get better results. Landon is getting fed up with the run around anyway.

>>1783016
I just got back from yard work, but I had voted for Trevor before you opened the second vote or I would have voted it for it in that.

>>1783023
aight, I'm not sure what about being infront of other people is going to do except make them lie more

>>1783023
I would have preferred the other option, but its your call.

>>1783023

That's fine with me.

Isn't Lavender a woman's perfume? If it is then I think its Jeyne whose the traitor. Or at least the one who was meeting with Eli.

>>1783066
>Isn't Lavender a woman's perfume?
Yes, but what's to stop a man from wearing it.

>>1783077
Most people don't really wear perfume in westeros, especially men. The only men I ever remember them stating it for was Illyrio and Varys so it must be an esosi thing.

>>1783085
It could be use to throw us off the scent, misdirection that type of thing

>>1783095
I feel like its something they wouldn't have thought we would ever pick up on considering we only found out because we caught Eli and his men.

>>1783095
We could literally sniff every person in the hall for lavander

>>1783107
That will seem weird sniffing all of them. But could work.

Alright, I'm having a bit of trouble with my internet right now, let me get this figured out. Bad storm is passing through and I'm really spotty right now.

>>1782939
>open meeting.

threatening his loyal folkowers isnt really Landons style i think

Dad confirmed dead

Sorry about that guys. Power was knocked out for a couple hours there, huge thunderstorm rolled in out of nowhere. Internet is still off and on.

>>1783540
its cool man

Father's loss is my gain!
Despite only learning about the Quest on Monday, I am now fully caught up! haHA!

>>1782512
We should build some orphanages

damn you guys are autists.
oh well. so /qst/, who dun it? And whats Landon going to do about it?

I say it was the little girl with help from Maffew or Trent.

As for what to do? keep the faith, be a knight. sure some of our people are dick ass erp loyalists. so what? we arent cunning enough to uncover their heinous plot. we never will be. But that doesn't stop the Warrior. A horse may get ticks, but that doesnt slow it down.

extend our mine, for silver doesnt freeze like crops. rebuild the port so we can have better options for that silver. Hows the fishing around here? bet our smallfolk would like some food.

And in between all of this murder Moon Swallows. Later replace Moon Swallows with Iron born.

If we get betrayed, trust in the Seven to provide and in our sword arm to do its work.

i think it would be a fine ambition for Landon to be a champion of the faith and have a cathedral on his land.

>>1784678
It was fairly clearly Jeyne Stone in the employ of another lord. She played our best men against each other and used her charge's family name to rally hold outs to destabilize our lands. It at minimum weakens us for further conflicts or if the clans are lucky they take us out entirely, then march in and get our land.


I would say Wylla was in on it but I doubt it given her reaction to Marston and the accompanying guilt.

>>1784978
never trust a bastard

>>1784978
I would say it's jeyene and trent

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>>1784476
how many orphans do you think we have?

workhouses might be effective once we have the port back up, ships always need rope and oakum

So what parts make up the armor of the Faith? Guantlets, breastplate, helm, leg harness, and arm harness. Maybe a shield or mail shirt as the sixth piece. Considering Landon, I'm sure he wears a full hauberk instead of voiders.

>>1784978
>Jeyne is actually a scorned lover angry that Landon never returned her feelings and completely failed to notice her advances

things to cobsider for the future.

after a careful perusal of out of strife I have a few Ideas. these are mostly just general goals for the next 10 or so years.

>the mine

expanding and upgrading the mine will offer us more guaranteed passive income which we can use to pay back loans or improve our lands directly. We are already essentially garrisoning it so defensive structures arent out of the question at all.

>our town

repairing the port is of the highest priority. once thats done a fishery would be a life saving addition especially if we had a fishing fleet, and processing center. those alone would help boost our terribly low population.

A shipwright would be an excellent addition, especially if they reduced the cost of a fishing fleet.

monthly religious festivals might be nice later when we have more free money.

>Law
Our bond with out dog gave me an idea. kennels. I am torn between breeding the dogs for War or as guard dogs.

Bailiffs. having these promotes Law very quickly which is something we desperately need considering that Moon Swallow attacks are brazen as all hell. Of I thought sabotage more likely I would say to have these go investigator and back them up with guard dogs. As we are now military training is probably more useful.

>the faith
an abbey hosting a warrior brotherhood sounds right up Landons alley. especially if the building is later incorporated into a larger cathedral.

a healing site would also help with population and would be cool as hell.

>defenses
since we are commited to reclaiming the old tower it might be worthwhile to invest in a stonemason and engineers.

turning the Whitestone into an impregnable fortress would also appeal to landon, but probably wont occur in his lifetime.

so yeah in ten years I see Landon having a more stable realm possibly patrolled by stone faced bailiffs and their loyal guard/war dogs.

of course getting all of this accomplished would be insanely successful, and paint us as a target for the ironborn and others.

>>1785519
Maybe later we get some war dogs we can form a unit with handlers/elite soldier called the Hounds of Whitestone? Dogmatic Dogs?

Next update when?

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>>1785519
Once we get the shepherd lands, we should also invest in animal husbandry with woolworks. A road would help as well with our silver shipments

The military academy would fit in well with an warrior brotherhood abbey. Men should not just be taught martial qualities, they need spiritual teachings so that they act in ways that honor themselves and the Faith.

If we do get war dogs, one of them has to be named Becerrillo

>>1785912
Never ever

>>1785932
The Seven give me hope that The Warrior will post. Unless he follows DC quest in which case we are fucked

Some interesting belifes that landon holds might be the stranger being the lord of the seven hells, he sends demons in forms of false gods and untimely deaths to test our faith

>>1786014
>Landon meets Stannis
>He brings the red woman
>Landon calls her 'Demon Preacher' and kills her
>Stannis, after losing a duel with Landon, commits to the Seven and takes back the Iron throne
>Names Landon Defender of the Faith

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>>1785519
>>1785931
looking at the kennels again, the scouting hounds would make our scouts top tier. Considering how hard the Moon Swallows and other mountain clans are to track, those two bonus dice would help a lot in our search.

A quarry would fit with the Vale, and for 15 wealth we'd get a very nice bonus to house fortunes. The stoneworks upgrade isn't that great though.

Earp's old solar isn't being used, Father might let us get it for cheaper than normal. It's not a priority, but it would help our image to not receive our guests in the dining hall. A library once we learn to read would be good as well, purely for aesthetic reasons

Tolls are a cheap investment, with a nice pay
off whenever we roll for wealth. Might tick off the people that travel on our river though.

>>1786840
>Landon meets Stannis
>He brings the red woman
>Landon calls her 'Demon Preacher' and attacks her
>OP magic(pls nerf) stops us from killing her
>Jon Arryn cripples our house with fines for attacking a woman

>>1787013
Tolls also help us regulate who is travelling on our roads and who can get in, which improves our law, which is great. People have to weigh the cost of paying our toll and being safe, or not paying and dealing with the mountain clans.

I'll also agree with the Scouting Hounds, they would help us a lot, Guard Dogs would help down the line as well, what us having traitors within our ranks.

The quarry would be great, I like the +2 Def bonus, I'd like to see some homebrew thing that if we have a quarry + stoneworks and a stonemason, it will reduce the build time even more, and increase the defence more, maybe even be able to hold more troops, somehow. Plus we'll get to sperg out on what our castle defences are like. Unless there is already something with that and I'm blind.

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>>1787149
get an engineer as well for that, build time would be reduced 20%

I am ready for the castle sperging, but I think we should focus more on small defenses that we cover our lands with. Rebuild the Dawntower, put one up next to the mine, and something near the shepherds. After that, we can add to our castle.

>>1787225
I knew I was forgetting something, Engineer was obviously it. Does that 20% stack with the 10% from the stonemason?

I agree we need to get that claim on the tower first, and build up more outside just our castle to make our lands safer.

Also, that's pretty much how I imagine the Dawntower, little taller maybe. Just not in quite as good shape obviously. Maybe with a small empty hamlet built around it. From the lands switching from Earp to Tollet to Moon Swallows, it might make sense for the tower to have an extra something around. Then again, it's said to be "A far-flung tower in the mountains that is hardly known to those outside of the best trackers and historians now." so maybe not. Excited for it anyhow.

>>1787303
I would assume they stack, an engineer doesn't know how to optimize stonecutting efficiency. Wonder if it's cumulative or 20% off the 90%

That's how I picture the rebuilt dawntower, the perspective makes it look a lot more stout. That door is probably 6-7 feet tall, and the tower is 7 doors tall even with the perspective. It's probably 50-60 feet tall

OK, so I am reading the Core book and Out of Strife Prosperity and there's a problem with the plan of getting a Septon before the Maester.

In the core book, to get the Septon you need the Sept holding which takes 15 wealth and 12+2d6 Months while the Priest Personage requires the Temple holding (10 Wealth and 3d6+12 months) or Chapel holding (4 Wealth and 1d6+6 months) while also costing 5 Wealth and 1d6 months.

That's 9 Wealth with a waiting time between 8 and 18 months. That can be a lot of time before getting our letters and literacy in order.

>>1787572
Maester also have a five wealth discount as a "defining setting trait" unlike septs

>Is OP kill?

>>1788168
no, we must have faith

>>1788183
Or we could have a break down and get piss-our-pants drunk and fuck a dozen Essosi whores ?

>>1788200
go back to essos brynden

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>>1788200
I would sternly advise against it m'lord.

looking over our current holdings, and what we can do I see we are leaving a shit ton of money on the table.

Father is absolutely right when he says we should improve the mine.

an extended mine complex on a rich mine adds a flat +6. that's insane.

advanced mine works DOUBLES that insanity.
Throw some smelters in the mix and you add a little [+1 population] but more importantly you make Silver artisans cheaper.

we could mine, process, and forge silver jewelry all in our own domain.
thats... thats such an obvious fucking move that it makes me think Maffew is utterly retarded for not bringing it up.

thats +16 [!] to wealth. add on a artisan holding and a guild and thats another +2.

repair the port and build a market and...

How the unholy fucking fuck has Maffew not mentioned this? did he catch syphilis from the whores hes been fucking?!

add a quarry, stone mason, and engineers and we will be primed to fuck things harder than a camp follower under Landon.

>>1788454
>silver jewelry
>NOT silver sept items/decorations/jewelry
Deus Vult

>>1788454
Getting some craftmen to work the silver would be a good idea.

Maybe we could also mint the silver into coins to boost our economy

>>1788454
Landon.....landon is not a smart man

>we could be producing silver items of faith
>we could be sending more money to the faith
>we could be paying for our ownsept and be a patron to holy men worth a damn

>>1788473
>>1788509
though I didnt state so outright I felt it would be understood that Landons Tithe would change over to silver Icons of the faith.

And of course there are problems getting there, not the least of which being the fuckton of bird dicks in our lands.

personally I want to give the mines the Wieliczka treatment and turn the parts we mine out into religious cathedrals and icons.

>>1788552
>Wieliczka treatment
Jeste cudowny

>>1788552
A cathedral can't really happen at our rank and ability unless we pour absoloutly everything and I mean EVERYTHING we get into it from household expenses to our lords tithe.

Easier to go for a really fancy sept instead

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>>1788581
not exactly cathedral like the holding.

the miners of Wieliczka were VERY religious so they would carve amateur, and not so amateur things into the mine as it was depleted.

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>>1788617
for us, it could serve as a kind of combination faith holding and a proving ground for prospective artisans and stone workers.

>>1788617
>>1788581
A big Sept would be enough. You dont really build a huge Cathedral out in nowhere area that we are located in. Not to mention i dont even think we would be able to build one nor maintain it.

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>>1788623
and long after the mine has run dry the faithful will travel to visit improving our population and the value of any tolls we levy

>>1788454
FYI, Out Of Strife rules that resource gain bonuse don't stack flat bonuses. If you've gt +2/3 it translates to 1d3, +4/5/6 to 1d6, +7-12 to 2d6 and so on. Stacking ridiculous bonuses like that is why House Karban, the first GoT quest, became such a fucking cakewalk.

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>>1788712
even so, at that +16 we'd get a 3d6 on wealth.

we could buy so much shit with that

maybe even a valyrian steel dagger

>>1788712
okay I did not know that. still 3d6 wealth is... hefty.

I have never really understood how a GoT game can become a cakewalk. There is ALWAYS someone bigger, badder, and out for your blood. Father seems to struggle with the transition from small isolated houses to middling prosperous houses.

though to be fair Brynden had covered his bases fairly thoroughly by marrying hot dornish spy wife.

I think the transition to one HF roll every two months is a positive one. And I like that Landon may never be a brilliant guy.

>>1788803
To be fair we had the backing of VArys, Jon Arryn, the Dornish prince, and were getting along well with the heir to high Garden. We were also on pretty good terms with Oberyn.

Our only real "Enemy" on the great house/ great courtier front was the Queen, and we weren't really worth the hassle after Dontos ruined Boros Blount so utterly ad since kept our head down. That and the fact her Appointed watchdog of us was an utter fuck up spamming Green troops in exchange for fucking over everything else in his land helped, I'm sure.

Putting everything to make a huge ass sept seems like somethibg landom would want to do and would probably be advised to not do by all our advisors

>>1788843
true, but we were eventually going to turn the red bastard into paste. And Arryn was going to die. one would have drawn the queens eye, amd the other would have been a solid blow to our house.

especially as it became clearer that Arryns wife was batshit crazy.

>>1788912
Yeah but that's YEARS away for him dying, and the red bastard getting pasted would happen well before that. Especially if we dropped our case of him being a slaver after we pasted him.

We still have Dorn and possibly high garden solidly in our corner by then, and might even have kept in the Vale leader's good graces (although I doubt it). The queen would quickly get far too busy with us to actually try and bully us, especially after the hiding we were about to put the Langford and Blounts through.


As for the war of five Kings? I'd have us beg that our forces are necessary to defend our horses which are the best in the crownlands and not really side with anyone. Just sit and wait while Dontos goes off crusading until a house is clearly winning our Dany and her army comes to wreck shit. Because I doubt after what happened with Robert's Rebellion Bynden would commit heavily to a bunch of assholes who either are utter cunts, charismatic as rocks, Northerners, GreyJoys, Or gayer than band of merry men.

>>1788941
even assuming we dropped shit at the right time and in the right way and got all of the Royce lands and managed to pacify then into lawful holdings, we still would have had challenges.

Arryn and the Dornish were each pulling in the opposite directions. And if you think Varrys was dealing with us without any leverage behind his back then your a fool. At least one of the House secrets would get all of us killed our lands razed or given away and our nane trampled into the dust.

as for the war, Im almost certain Dontos would ask us to help Danny. regardless of how horribly dangerous that could be.

>>1789040
>Arryn and the Dornish were each pulling in the opposite directions.

True but it didn't come to ahead, and that was because the elder Martell was not an idiot.

>And if you think Varrys was dealing with us without any leverage behind his back then your a fool.

His woman was our seneschal, of course he had all the dirt on us he could get.

>At least one of the House secrets would get all of us killed our lands razed or given away and our nane trampled into the dust.
What were those pray tell? The only secret he really had was the Red Door. Our house was fairly straightforward, mostly because we couldn't afford to back alley deal because we had everyone looking at us.

>Im almost certain Dontos would ask us to help Danny.
Who is a world away at best. We'd probably would declare for her if she made landfall but that is a long ass way away, and we'd need to get through the war of five kings first. And frankly NO ONE in war is great for us. You have the Royal lannister line, The faggot who was backed by high garden and the stormlands, the northerners with the riverlands, and the greyjoy assholes, and the man who betrayed the faith and has the charisma of a wet shit.

>>1789078
We dont even know Dany is alive.

>>1789084
which is part of the issue.

IF Dany was alive we'd probably switch to her in a heart beat

But we have only three really viable choices for WoFK. none of which are great.

>>1789084
No we know there are Targs alive somewhere in Essoss. Just not really who or where. IIRC

>>1788843

What about Redward?

>>1789098
He's incompetent, and running himself and his lands to ruin in a vain attempt to build as large an army as possible. If we table the blounts and Langwards he's FUCKED, barring his essossi backer funneling an absolutely massive amount of men and funds into him, which would be noticed.

At this point he's barely a threat and more a lamb to the slaughter.

>>1789108
He is still destructive. We shouldnt get careless. I bet Father never thought about letting our plan be "Let him burn out by himself"

>>1789140
That's not our plan, but the idiot has actively tried to rip apart his ability to grow for more immediate power. He and Father both anticipated us hitting him immediately. Even when Brynden was in full sellsword form, he wouldn't have. Not because he did not want too, but because it was suicide. If he commits he wants to WIN in every sense of the word.

Granted he IS destructive, but if he loses his two closer and far more competent allies? He's now facing a slightly smaller but MUCH better trained army, with their ally or possibly even allies, with no resource base to keep his lands and army running.

Yes he has that wannabe magister backing him, but if he's a bad bet, he will get pulled so fast his head will spin.

Basically Byrnden has been slowly but surely eating away at his ability to be a threat, removing resources, lands, allies and revenue sources. It's been a slowly burning death for the Redward fool.

>>1789108
maybe incompetent isnt the best word.

he was clearly making use of street gangs, criminal syndicate, slave market, saboteurs, and similar holdings. and considering his position and disposition was NOT a bad idea. It gave him the option of building a military very quickly.

And he could easily have become a threat again with the right alliances. Brynden was not loved by everyone. had it devolved into open warfare he could have sold captured regiments into slavery along with raiding bryndens populace to support his purchase of better trained mercenary units. supported by a house with supplemental troops and a better than average commander he could have set us back quite a bit.

do i think he would have won? almost certainly not. but it would have been a nasty brutal rat pit fight.

he would have been much better off assasinating our Uncle and son and buying plausible deniability

>dad is ded
>tfw you just wanted to burn heretics and infidels with holy cleansing fire

>>1789096
We should declare for Young Griff

>>1789306
We should he is 100% better than Dany.

On the topic of the stormlands having very little in the way of fluff, how pious are they?
I don't think they follow the seven as all the stormlanders we know are either whoremongerers,fags,absolute cunts, fake knights, or filthy fucking reds
Maybe they still believe in the old pagan religion of the storm lands?

>>1789229
The issue is, no one will ally with him any more. He's a horribly unpleasant man, has a history of breaking his oaths, and his current allies find him impossible to work with. his lands are falling into ruin and we're clearly growing much faster and more surely than he is.

Him getting back on even footing would be a pipe dream at this point, his allies would be footing the major bills.

>>1789306
>>1789312

He's unproven and a possible fraud.

>>1789324
Still better than Danny

>>1789326

Still a probable false king.

And let's wait to see/meet Father!Danny first.

Hot of Valyrian Descent Wife wehn

>>1789348
Yeah but young griff is cool
And who cares if he's a blackfyre it means no more baratheon kings

>>1789366
>And who cares if he's a blackfyre

Everyone in the Seven Kingdoms (and the Riverlands).

>>1789352
Hot lys merchant waifu is an option

Combine Landon's rugged andal features with bright blue or purple eyes if we want our son to get all the pious bitches

>>1789400
>Marrying a heathen
Not in this life time buddy.

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>>1789432
They will ask "Who the fuck are you?" then followed by "Please leave the premise sir"

>>1789403
>merchants don't convert to circumvent extra taxes placed on religious minorities

>>1789461
>Being that greedy
>Having no real faith
>Being from a city famed for prostitutes and slavery
Landon would hate her anon.

When Landon learns how to write and read the first person he should write to is his sister. I can just imagine how proud he is of himself as he writes her a letter to ask her how she has been and inform her that he can now write. The writing will ofcourse be a bit blocky letters.

I'm gonna laugh if the merchant option wife is a hefty Pentoshi Girl who's related to our favorite banker.

>>1789484
>Pentoshi Girl who's related to our favorite banker.

Kek. Solhas will be invited to the wedding of course and he will naturally be seated next to the brides father!

>>1789489
I hope dad comes back just to see this idea, and honestly, thicc fags need a bone thrown our way at least once

well, I'm not sure if it is at all Landons style, but the monthly festivals holding allows influence to population trade. and they can be religiously themed.

and as I recall having a court (?) allows influence to wealth.

we could just raise our combat stats and Tourney our way to awesomeness?

>>1789545
Do the Seven even have anything like Saint days ?

>>1789568
Thay have days dedicated to each memeber of the seven

>>1789568
they do actually, holy days for each one of the 7

>>1789489
>>1789484
>>1789432
marrying anyone other than the idealistic Anya Waynwood.

its like you want us to fail

>tfw we will never experience a buddy cop between Brynden and Landon

>>1789573
>>1789583
there should be more holidays in Weasteros than that. Every month in pre industrial Europe had a festival day for a saint or two. It's just recently that we started having less holidays than our ancestors. I'm guessing royal namedays have few months in acordance with the weird seasons., or they have 7

>>1789703
I mean, unless we start doing some big dick shit and start writting homer esq stories while revolutionizing the faith and how they do things they have no real reason to have saints
Maybe a baelor the blessed day but robert would probably crackdown on that shit

>>1789654
>Landon get's assigned to "Ser Malroy"
>Get's excited about being partnered with the honorable knight
>Though they fought on opposing sides during the Rebellion, Landon respects Ser Malroy for acting in a righteous way during it
>Polishes up his armor so he doesn't look like some lowborn hedge knight
>Brings his fancy new gauntlets to show off
>Travels to the Crownlands to meet his new partner
>"Who the fuck is Brynden Malroy?"

>>1789805
how about the king and his friends namedays becoming holidays. or heroes of weasteros getting namedays like one with nymeria as an attempt to soothe over relations with the martels.

>>1789964
Most people probably wouldn't take well to a beric day or a ned day
Roberts day would work well

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>>1789964
The birth/death days of past Champions of the Faith would be good holidays. The date of famous battles and the end of wars could work as well

>>1790502
So last storm,summerfield,andal invasion thay stuff

>>1790477
Beric was a right and honourable knight who stood for the small folk when few others would

Red god is hardly a factor as far we will know

>>1789545
How does that help? We'd still need some way to build influence first

>>1791027
you gain influence from winning tournements

we'd get the gold, the xp to level up Landon's spear specialty, and influence that can be converted to wealth

>>1791040
Focus on learning other skills for the melee anon, we've been over this.

>>1791052
Landon's already a beast in melee, cheapest thing to increase would be his endurance or his sword specialty

Comparatively, his animal handling is shit and 10xp for spears 1B would allow him to joust without losing 1D

Upgrading his fighting to 6 would be a very expensive but worthwhile investment that would affect all of our fights

>>1791115
The level of people we'll be fighting in the joust and archery is comparable to the level we are in sword fighting. We can't get enough xp to bring up our enough of the skills needed for jousting or archery to the point of even giving us a chance of winning them. And Dad even told us not to count our chickens before they hatch for the melee.

>>1791166
I wouldn't be surprised if Dad sends a fighter on par with us at Landon during the melee, which is why I mentioned upgrading his fighting stat.

Endurance could work as well so we can tank more damage

>>1791237
We need strength and stamina too.

>>1791237
I say we just go all in on the melee and try to woo her

>>1791256
Might be our best bet. But in time i would like us to become good at jousting as well, i mean. What kind of knight cant joust ?

>>1791262
Further down the line sure. Just not before the tourney.

I only just found out that this quest exists after having given up on Malroy continuing. I am very happy and must now go catch up.

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>>1791254
strength wouldn't effect melee considering we don't use a greatsword.

Stamina will help after tournaments to recover quickly

>>1791256
agreed, but I definitely want Landon to learn how to joust because they in great weapons with a high enough animal handling

greatswords can be extremely powerful as well with high strength

>>1784476
There aren't a lot of children period in your lands, the dock town is the epicenter of the region and given its state very few are willing to start families, especially with it being the dead of winter.

>>1785280
>So what parts make up the armor of the Faith?
Gauntlets - Smith
Cuirass - Mother
Helm - Father
Legs (Cuisse, greaves, sabaton, etc.) - Maiden
Arms (Pauldrons, gardbrace, vanbrace, etc.) - Crone
Sword/Shield - Warrior

They don't all have names yet, but that's the gist of it. No armour is the same, the pieces made specifically for the user. The gauntlets are the easiest, so that's why they're the first and are the most samey of all the pieces, after that they follow the above order. There are only three complete sets about the Seven Kingdoms, as far as is known at least since history before Aegon's Conquest can get sketchy. No one set is the same as the other, the Faith gathers the measurements, specifics of the user, etc. to craft a set that personifies the person and his specific devotion to the Faith.

>>1785519
>>1787013
So, to address this on the whole. I agree with a lot of the planning and thoughts going into this. I encourage it actually. But, you guys do need to be aware that you only get one Estate Wealth holding per Domain. The Silver Mine is your single estate holding for the single domain you own. You are allowed to upgrade it of course, but if you want more estate holdings, i.e. dogs, fishery, etc. you will need another estate. Such as the mountains to the north with the goat herd and... Well actually there isn't a lot of land about to claim, especially for a young Knight. You may have as many Domains as you have Status, thus 3.

Your Personage Wealth Holdings is 1 per every 10 influence you have, so at the moment you are allowed 3 of those. Such as the engineer, a steward, stonemason, master-at-arms, etc. You have zero presently.

You have room for 4 Settlement Wealth Holdings and 4 Lifestyle Wealth Holdings. These are your Abbey, Healing Site, Sept, & Port for the former and Festivals and Solar for the latter. You can get more of the former by building a hamlet, small town, etc. And you can get more of both by building Towers, Halls, etc. (i.e. the Dawntower).

You won't be getting discounts for any of the things that a castle just typically has. Investment in specific holdings just means you are putting the appropriate funds into a more trained individual, dedicated industry, and/or better-stocked locale(library, garden, solar).

>>1786014
Landon is actually more knowledgeable about the Faith than most common-born. He can tell you everything about the Seven aspects and isn't susceptible to fairytales and the like.

>Tolls are a cheap investment, with a nice pay
off whenever we roll for wealth. Might tick off the people that travel on our river though.

A handful of people toll the Greatgorge, House Belmore cheifly among them from their island where the river splits into the Virgin River and the Westflow. House Lynderly, at the mouth of the river, a toll that is widely contested by House Corbray who believe the money is rightly theirs. House Harrock tolls the Westflow and the Westpass, the road that goes through the Mountains of the Moon. House Badics and Egen don't bother given the difficulty of the area to toll, so there's a great big stretch that no one really touches ripe for the picking, but it would ruffle some feathers if you did. Some of the other Houses of the region would not take kindly to the idea, nor would traders and merchants who have never had to pay a toll before. And then you have the issue of enforcing your tolls on the area. Which is difficult given your limited military, household, and chiefly your low law, there are many that would gladly steal away through your waters to avoid paying the toll.

>>1787225
The Dawntower looks roughly like that, it sits on a ridge in the Mountains of the Dawn. It does have a few chambers inside the stone beneath it though.

An Outpost or Tower by the Mine would be a sound investment. The former would be preferred by the men, such as Asher, given it would take significantly less time and caters more to the needs of the men, rather than a landed Knight or lord.

>>1787303
The only extra bit are the Moon Swallows camps inside of the tower. Anything from the Earp/Tollett days are long since gone.

>>1787485
They do stack, and it is cumulative. Because I don't feel like doing extra math.

>>1787572
I wondered if anyone would ever bring that up. That is one of the rare few times that I'll drop a requirement for a Holding. You can purchase the Septon without a Temple(Sept) or Chapel, just because of Landon's reputation.

However the Septon will often, and not low-key either, request a proper place of worship. Landon would prefer to get a Chapel at least, for his personal use. And then get a Sept or whatever else either. Also the Chapel is more attainable.

So yeah, don't worry about that. I'd rather the fluff take precedence over the crunch in this regard because that's just not fun nor playing to the character.

>>1788006
Actually, it doesn't. That was a misprint in OOSP, where for some reason the writer assumed the holding cost 15, rather than 10, in the corebook. There's an errata somewhere out there that mentions it. So yeah, Maester costs 10 Wealth.

>>1788240
>m'lord.
>implying Dontos would ever speak like a commoner

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>>1788454
Because it's unattainable, its not that Maffew hasn't thought about it or Lord Earp hadn't planned on it either. But the simple truth of it is, the House just doesn't produce enough money to get to the point where it is an option. And then there are worries about clansmen and other lawlessness about, which prevents Landon from being able to invest that way. No population to work or build it. The additional food costs that would come with bringing in workers and soldiers to guard it and enforce the law about the domain are also a concern. Also, >>1788712 is correct and I'm glad someone pointed that out, thank you.

>>1788473
That's actually an incredibly good idea. I like the fluff idea of it, would be an Artisan Craftsman for sure. Might even make up a new one with specific benefits, +1 Influence and Wealth maybe? Also to remind because you own the Smelter holding you get a -2 to the cost of the appropiate Artisan Craftsman, so that's helpful to keep in your back pocket.

>>1788509
Landon wouldn't be able to do that as he isn't a Lord. Lord Benedar Belmore could, but it isn't in his best interest given the Bordain scandal some odd years ago.

>>1788519
He is not a clever man but damn it if he doesn't want to do all of those things.

The tithe is his best thing Landon has going in regards to dealing with the Faith. If he wants to give a single more unit of raw silver to the Faith then he'll hit his maximum gain for Faith Points of 3 per every 2 months.

>>1788552
>Wieliczka treatment
>someone else knows what that is

I had actually laid the seeds for something similar in the first description of the silver mine. Just being the men that work there turning the depleted areas into barracks and living quarters. Eventually, they might go further with the fancy stuff. I could even make that a homebrew holding if the interest is there. Lifestyle Holding I think would be appropriate. That would be a really interesting thing to incorporate, including the people's growing Faith due to their liege's own would be a fun plot point to play with.

>>1788625
Yeah I honestly don't think it's possible within the timeframe of the quest. A Sept or Lavish Sept would be entirely possible, though difficult in both regards. Landon isn't going to have the possible incomes that Brynden did, I'd rather not have the Archery contest happen again, and I don't plan on any of his dowries being too large. Brynden and Obella were both pretty high profile people so the dowry made sense. Landon is not nor are any of his possible suitors.

>>1788735
Nahhh, not that. Just go find the old Earp sword.

>>1788803
I think Landon and House Grallner will benefit a lot from my experience with House Malroy. But I think my biggest issue with the latter is that all of the best results that could have happened, happened. It wasn't a gradual build, it was immediate. Landon is not being afforded those same opportunities so the transition phase if there is one at all, will be a lot more gradual and difficult.

Plus Landon is an idiot and I don't really ever plan on writing him as anything ever more than. Even when he learns to read, it'll be focused on different things, such as learning his scriptures and devoting more of himself to the Faith in his learnedness.

>>1789432
Well, Landon did once know a Velaryon. Ser Jothos Velaryon, he was a friend of your uncle, Cyrol Grallner. They met during the War of the Ninepenny Kings and for a short while he lived in Whitestone Keep, though Landon hardly remembers him.

Either way, this >>1789439 would probably happen. And Landon doesn't really trust them anyway, as far as he knows they're just more loyalists.

>>1789470
Probably would. But if she swindled and talked her way into his good graces with talk of the Faith and played the innocent girl that just wanted to be taught the way of the Faith from a man of true devotion. Well... He might fall for it.

>>1789583
Huh. I didn't know that. I should incorporate that into Landon's character. I'll figure out some dates for those.

>>1789654
Oh it would be hysterical. There's a part of me that wants to do a mini crossover during the Greyjoy Rebellion. I mean he is my character, so I guess it wouldn't be difficult. More likely that Landon meets Dontos though... Ah who knows.

>>1790477
Robert's nameday would be celebrated with an annual Tourney and shenanigans for a fortnight in King's Landing. Of course all are invited, it just doesn't suit all to travel to the Crownlands for such every year.

>>1790502
I should fluff the three recorded Champions. I don't think I'd go so far as to make their namedays holidays. But might be something Landon just knows off the top of his head from his old Septon.

Anyway, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to continue and for the silence. Kind of fucked me there. I will be able to run in the afternoon on Monday however. I'll let you guys know the details tomorrow.

>>1791414
Brynden would be better considering just how much they would hate each other where as with Dontos they would just get along. Bonifer Hasty when?

>>1791465
>>1791414
>The Queen arranges that Brynden and Landon get put on the same team in the hope they will infight and Landon will kill Brynden

>>1791476
>It all falls apart because Landon won't kill him out of respect for Dontos, and Brynden gets way to much fun out of constantly infuriating Landon to ever leave him alone.

>>1791405
>If he wants to give a single more unit of raw silver to the Faith then he'll hit his maximum gain for Faith Points of 3 per every 2 months.
well, we know what we're doing the instant our mine is upgraded

>>1791414
What'd you think about the analysis of Brynden and house malroy's situation?

>>1788803
As someone who's run a GoT quest, I can provide some insights (of course, these are my personal opinions so it's possible other former/present QMs disagree):

-The first part of it is simple: the system and characters aren't built to surpass a certain level, but ARE built to, perhaps strangely, bring you to spitting distance of the upper limits fairly quickly.

Landon, for instance, has Fighting 5, Longblades 3. Congrats, he is, from first level, capable of fighting at the same tier as a member of the Kingsguard. Did I say "at"? I meant "Better." An average Kingsguard, by the game, is Fighting 5, Long Blades 2. Even Jaime Lannister, fabled master of the blade, is Fighting 7, Long Blades 4.

And sure, you could change the stats, buff up foes and stuff, but that takes a trained eye with the system to know how much is too far. If Father wants a Kingsguard to give you a challenge, and he just knocks up his fighting and agility, suddenly a good roll has 4 degrees of success, and he's looking at a one-hit KO for the character. Which leads to the next point.

-What is appropriate in a game versus what is appropriate in a novel. One of the central points of most games, at least in modern views, is that the game should have some level of fairness. You should be given the information to learn of threats to you, you should have a chance to resist or overcome them. Sure, in the books, Balon Greyjoy gets thrown off a bridge by a Faceless man, attacked while unarmed in his own home without warning. Which is fine for a side character in a novel.

But let's pretend it's A Song of Salt and Sorrow Quest - Chapter 45. After hours of peoples' invested time, the tragedy of the failed rebellion, the loss of your sons, and the rising promise of a bright return, your character gets ambushed and killed because your bastard brother you haven't seen in 20 threads paid off some fucks on the other side of the world. That's going to be EXTREMELY hard to write in a way that doesn't feel like a ham-fisted Rocks fall situation. Further, it may not even work, because of a quirk of THIS forum.

- What is fair to the GROUP. You and Father are not the only parties deciding Landon's future. It's a conversation with DOZENS of people participating. As such, it's very rare for things to be decided by a single roll. The "Best of three" rule that is endemic to /qst/, and the quests that came before, means that low-probability scenarios spring up more often, at a minimum tripling them.

All of this intertwines with other issues (e.g. the default reward structure is very character-friendly; fights tend to have death spirals, where the first palpable hit causes a fighter to either lose or accept a wound, which makes him more likely to get hit again; etc.) leading to first-time QMs walking in, saying "This all looks like it makes sense", and then encountering wild power spikes.

>>1791762
which quest?

>>1791762

Is that you Princely? Was I right about you being Obama?

>>1791829
[s]God I hope I remember how spoilers work. Page[/s]

>>1791895
Nope. Though I have your same suspicion. If not the man himself, presumably someone in that camp. I mean, involved in American politics, and leaves us in Nov 2008? There certainly weren't numerous gubnatorial, senatorial, and house of representative seats open that year. ;)

>>1791935
And I don't remember. ugh. Sloppy of me.

I presume it's the damn triangular brackets, then.

But, yeah, Father reached out to make sure it was cool to use Bordain in the quest, so I decided to read it.

>>1789313
Fluffwise, the Stormlands are basically all militarized. There's no cities, just castles, keeps, towers, etc. It's got some shitty weather, constant bandits, and for centuries, war with Dorne.

So I assume there's plenty of devout men, of various faiths, and it's sort of informally agreed that no one rocks the boat in that regard, since it's better to trust your brothers in arms than get in a fight over WHICH God should stop this fucking squall.

>>1791982

The Stormlands suffers from being one of the most underexpose kingdoms in the books. Hopefully next book changes that.

>>1792019
Stormlands together with the Westerlands.

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>>1792019
Gotta read the lore book anon.

>>1791982
>>1791935
What do you think of Landon and Brynden ?

>>1792019
Yeah, it's kind of interesting how little it's come up. Like, Stannis and Davos are both Stormlanders, as is Brienne, and yet we've been told so little of their home kingdom.

Like, with Renly and Robert, I get it. They're more King's Landing people than Stormlanders. But you'd assume we'd have had more reflection from Davos, or 'I've endured worse that this" kind of memories from Stannis.

>>1792117
How do you mean?

As characters, I think they're great. It's fun to see how similar motivations and events play out with different characters and QMs. Bordain and Landon started from very similar roots, but are clearly heading in completely opposite directions. William and Bryndan are (or, at least, WERE, since I see I'm now THIRTY DAMN THREADS BEHIND on Malroy) both driven by a core of hate, that expressed itself in a recklessness from Brynden and an ever-present brooding from William.

It's also fun to just pop into other people's stories and make suggestions you can't in your own, or get inspired.

Like, I don't know what about it triggered it, but something in the first chapter of Landon's journey made me think of a potential battlefield unit/equipment that I wanna look at and consider: The idea is essentially 2' by 6' tower shields with alternating patterns of spikes and holes, to be used to construct very simple fortifications. Slam 6 into the ground forming a right angle, drop 3 shields on top so the top spikes piece the holes, impromptu 6' by 6' wall section with cover.

A unit of 36 men forms a 12' by 12' bunker. Pair them with a unit of archers, and you're looking at a unit capable of creating a medieval pill box in around 6 minutes.

The problem is, well...12' by 12' isn't actually all that much. That's usable by what, 12 archers? maybe 20 with some alternating ranks options?

On the other hand, they could be useful in essentially dividing enemy troops, creating artificial bottlenecks to defend behind.
And if we build in arrow gaps, then we can use fewer shield bearers. And we can streamline it, since very rarely in medieval warfare is 360 degree cover useful. So if the unit of 'constructors' IS the unit of archers, where they arrive, plant their shields forming a 4' high wall with 6' high sections every 12 feet, and take up positions, does THAT seem more impressive...?

It's just nice to have the mental juices flowing again. My current life situation isn't one that really promotes creativity.

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>>1792184
Biggest problem with the fort is how archers fought in period. In movies they always show them making arcing shots, which the historical record doesn't support. They'd be firing straight on at enemies, so that their bodkins would hit at the best angle. Of course, that presumes that our opponents are well armored, which the mountain clans definitely aren't.

To modify your idea, we'd have to make the fortifications slightly ahead of time. No matter how strong a guy is, he's not gonna be able to jam a stake into the earth for any depth in one swing. Instead, the pavises could be supported by two hinged legs on the back. Place a few sandbags behind the legs to make sure they don't slide back. Now, these pavises wouldn't be as big as you're picturing, probably only 4 feet tall. This would still provide ample cover to the archers from thrown spears and axes, and we could save money by not equipping them with leg harness.

A major problem with using pavises as a fort is their relative instability. Compared to stakes driven into the ground and actual walls, they'll get knocked over easily. No ground would fit well with it sadly. Thick topsoil, like in the Reach would be easy to drive into, but would provide little resistance to toppling over. The stony frozen soil of the Vale wouldn't let you set them in it, you'd hit rocks after a few inches.

Mobile forts were a thing, in the form of Hussite wagons. Not really suited for our lands, though they'd be great in the Reach where cavalry is a major part. You can't break a wagon fort with heavy cavalry, you have to swamp them with infantry.

>>1791762
>The "Best of three" rule that is endemic to /qst/, and the quests that came before, means that low-probability scenarios spring up more often, at a minimum tripling them.
I hate that so much. Ruins the challenge too much for my taste. Even if QMs correct for it by giving opponents Bo3 too, you've still got all the static DCs to deal with.

I think Warrior/Father is strongly hinting that Earps old Valyrian Steel Sword is located in Dawntower's lower levels.

>>1792412
yeah but then you have players bitching about dm being dicks and bitching out because 1-3 side characters died

>>1792419
I have heard that the sword is a rare drop from the Barbarian King boss that usually spawns there
>>1792229
I like the idea of Roman-like engineers, dropping small steel spikes to make a terrain that causes damage to units that pass through, change the course of rivers and the like

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>>1792426
>change the course of rivers and the like
>not going full china
>not having dams and dykes to drown you're enemies
>not having fire attacks

>>1792184
I wonder what agriculture is like in the stromlands
Constant fuck huge storms would either ender the area barren or some how cause plants to evolve in super plants with high resistence to drowning,fire, and high speed winds
How would this refelct on crops?
The storm kingdom was able to survive even without reach support so they have to have some farners somewhere

>>1792489
Hunting, fishing and the inlands are generally safe for farming. Not to mention trade with the Reach.

>>1791935

He left around 2012, not 2008.

And I hope you'll run Iron and Hate again sometime soon.

>>1792489
>>1792498
I assumed the Stormlands are like Florida, where you have some farmland filled with orchards and most tropical fruit can grow.

>>1793356
Dont think it is warm enough.

>>1791895
You didn't hear it from me, but I heard princely volunteered for the trump campaign.

>>1793356
Well i think the constant storms would fuck that up
There's a big fuck off storm near every week or month or some thing right?
Unless the plants are able to handle that farming is out of the question

>>1793448
Think the storms are only near the coast.

>>1793476
It's a very, very wet region. A lot of it is taken up by a fuck off big forest called the rain wood, which is aptly named. Only the Marches are really dry, and they still get hit by hurricanes.

It's basically Texas

>>1793514

Dorne is sorta like fantasy Texas.

>>1793520
not really, Texas isn't a giant desert, it isn't inhabited by fantasy Spaniards and wasn't founded on an ideology that promotes equality

>>1793476
It's all over the stormlands
Thus stormlands

This makes me want to run House Blackett again, but between nearly dying and then my computer burning up, it's been so long I don't think people would still be interested. Should I try and continue it, or just start something new?

>>1793802
Please continue

>>1793802
Continue it or run another, whichever you rhink you'd be more enthusiastic for / run for longer

>>1793436

That's our guy.

>>1791762
this was in all honest the most concise and informative explanation for something that I have received on 4chan yet. You are a gentleman and a scholar of the highest order.

>>1793514
>>1793520
>>1793555
North is Canada, Crownlands is New England/Northeast, the Vale is Appalachia or maybe the Rockies, the Reach is the Breadbasket, Riverlands is the Great Lakes, Stormlands is the Sunbelt/Gulf Coast, Westerlands is the West Coast, and Dorne is Mexico

>>1792844
Thank you, both for the correction and the implied well-wishes.

We'll see what the future brings. It's been a pretty rough patch for me (unemployment, then constant travel, and now my father is going through chemo) but I'm hopeful that once things settle down, I can get back into it.

I will say that Father contacting me about this quest really perked me up this week, so I'm just happy to help him out as well as play in his sandbox for a while.

>>1791465
It would be more interesting. I'm not sure entirely, we'll see what I decide.

>spoiler
Not for awhile. He's pretty far away and Landon has no idea who House Hasty even is.

>>1791496
I, in general, need to do a 'Landon not understanding how trade works whatsoever' scene. Have Maffew attempting to put together some new trade agreements and Landon just wanting to give more to the Faith and being done with it. I actually have to frame those entirely differently so that Landon isn't making the big smart decisions but rather is given options and plans arranged by Maffew. There are a few Houses that would do business with the Grallners but it's difficult getting ahold of them.

>>1791516
That it's fairly accurate. On both sides.

>>1791762
I agree with the majority of this analysis. But at the same time, I believe it falls to me to provide a challenge in a way that the character cannot beat with just his fists or talking his way out of it. Whereas Landon is an absolute monster on the battlefield, off the field we have established that he just isn't a clever man and doesn't care for diplomacy. As such his first real enemy is a saboteur, a traitor that is using all of his weaknesses and those that he counts as his strengths against him. Which is providing a proper challenge for Landon to face.

Likewise, Brynden's major challenge is that he cannot be reckless or act in his nature, lest he piss off those above him that can do something to hurt him. He has to curtail his pride and ego and accept his punches so that someday he might finally get his chance to take his revenge. Sure he can silver tongue his way out of quite a few situations and knows how to fight with the best of them but he knows to protect his most prized possession, his Family, he has to play ball and that is his challenge.

>>1791935
Control+S on a highlighted section of text will give you spoilers. Or [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] minus the spaces.

But yeah, most of /tg/ and now /qst/ likes to play a fighter, so in general, it feels like the MC is just breaking the game. So the fighting bits always have this overwhelming sense of brokenness. If we conversely played a character with a lot of social skills you'd get that feeling that there isn't a single thing you couldn't negotiate for. The system is incredibly broken, which is hysterical to play with but it does cause these sorts of issues.

I know Page remembers the first time he used siege equipment and it just RUINED the Bloodsmiths, Elite Personal Guards. The game is just weird sometimes.

A side note, I also believe it is in line with the setting for there to be comparable fighters if not better fighters than the Kingsguard at any given point in history. Just isn't possible for every man to join the ranks of the Kingsguard. So there should be a few of them floating about Westeros. Such as Landon, William Bordain, Vickon Blackett. I'm sure there are plenty of others, especially in the Vale right now.

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>>1791982
That's typically how I play the Stormlands, majority Seven, sprinkling of whatever, don't ask don't tell otherwise. House Benedorn, my real life group House, is a Stormlander House and generally, that's how it goes.

>Father reached out to make sure it was cool to use Bordain in the quest
And what a joy it will be.

>>1792184
>It's also fun to just pop into other people's stories and make suggestions you can't in your own, or get inspired.
Agreed. I love playing other GoT quests just for this reason.

>>1792229
>Mobile forts were a thing, in the form of Hussite wagons. Not really suited for our lands
I think they could serve purpose in our lands. But only if Landon invested in the road from the Whitestone to the mine. But for the Reach they would be a crazy good custom unit. I might try to throw something together for it. Research time.

Anyway, to respond to the idea, I think a Heavy Infantry unit that has an Engineer built Fortifications could produce a similar effect for mass combat? Maybe purchase some pavises? I'm not sure, I think it's interesting and would like to play with it. Though it's hard to do something like that in Landon's domains given how damn mountain-y they are.

>>1792412
I see it as a necessary evil. But I have been dealing with it a variety of different ways. Such as Landon's rolls for Fighting being for multiple mooks to just steamroll through them.

The more difficult rolls I tend to allow the Bo3. For House Fortunes I do Bo3 because that table is pretty random. I believe the quest format makes the Bo3 more of a necessity because often characters aren't driven by the players, not so much as a normal table top at least, but the QM taking the story in a particular direction and then such rolls coming up more often than not. If the players fail an action they didn't have as much say in I find they have a less than favorable reaction.

It's an incredibly difficult thing to play correctly. But I believe I can more appropriately give you guys a challenge within the quests because my DCs move about a lot and I don't mind handing out + and -'s . I see the challenge in different aspects for Landon as well.

>>1792419
Am I? Because I definitely didn't mean to, or think I was. I've told you where the old Earp sword is, with the family that Trevor lost it to in his final Trial as Champion.

Well assumedly, that is the last place Landon would assume it would be. There's something in the Dawntower ruins but definitely not the sword, do you really think I'd just give you the sword for 3 Lands and a little bit of a Law reduction?

>>1793802
Either or, but I was rather fond of Lord Vickon Blackett. And making pic related, which I don't think I ever shared with you, though we did talk about having a shared link between the Houses way back when.

In other news, I'm considering some different clothing options for Landon during his off time. A Gambeson in navy blue seems like his style, both form and function too.

>>1794545
Gambeson's are incredibly hot, it wouldn't be bad outside, but in his castle it'd be toasty

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>>1794665
nah, just wearing a gambeson isn't super hot unless it has full sleeves, in which case it's like a heavy jacket. Even though Landon is a landed knight, I doubt he can afford to heat his castle to modern standards during the Vale winter. A nice jacket would probably be welcome anywhere except the kitchen and dining hall

It's once you get a brig, helm and leg harness on that you start to get really hot. The plate makes heat transfer near impossible where it covers.

>>1794545
Dammit Warrior, I'm getting tired of all this talking and no questing.

>>1794545
...damnit, Father, you are just a treat. The best kind of people. Welp, consider me inspired. I'll start working on something.

>>1794954
This

>>1794545
first thing that comes to mind as mobile fortifications are Cheval de frise. They're basically a log with four rows of spikes places at right angles along it's length. They'd be best against cavalry, but it seems like the Moon Swallows' tactics consist of head on charges when not instructed by the traitor.

Another option would be Gulyay-gorods carried by pack horses or mules. They'd have to be made much smaller than the ones used by the Russian armies, so that we weren't dependent on wagons to transport them. They'd stop any arrows coming head on, but arcing shots could still hurt anyone behind them. Thankfully, arcing shots have less power behind them than straight ones, and some wide brimmed kettlehats could deflect any that land on their heads

Given enough time, gabions could provide good protection and act as temporary walls. Like a lot of defenses these, they'd work best in the Reach. Our access to the soil needed to fill them is heavily limited by our location and the season. They're light enough that our men could carry them easily through the mountains while empty.

Unrelated to mobile defenses, forts like an Ostrog are cool. People discount the effectiveness of wooden forts, but they were much more common than full stone castles. After we get the shepherds' lands, we could use some of the timber on them to construct one.

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>>1795486
forgot my pic

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>>1795491
and a cheval de frise, because I realize I didn't describe it that well. The stakes could easily be spread among the men, while a log could be carried by a team or locally sourced at the battlefield.

The romans had an effective method of making hedgehogs that we could steal, each legionary would carry a large wooden stake that is sharpened at both ends. The stake is carve from a larger piece of wood into two long pyramid shapes with a handle at the center. Three of the stakes could be tied together so that they look like a Czech hedgehog. These hedgehogs could then be tied together in a jumble of rope(possibly covered with fishing hooks to further deter wading through itbonus points if you know what book I stole this idea from). I'm drawing a blank on the name of them, if I can find it I'll post a pic

>>1795514
These hedgehogs could then be tied together in a jumble of rope(possibly covered with fishing hooks to further deter wading through it bonus points if you know what book I stole this idea from*

they're called sudes. It literally means stake.

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>>1795533
and I forget the pic again

>>1795514
>>1795486
I'd assume these are exactly what's happening when you get your troops to 'dig-in' for the +1 defense.

Just so everyone knows, plan is to run some this afternoon. But it won't be until 7-8PM EST. Then I'll run 4-5 hours to get through the rest of my notes.

>>1795860
Warrior. I was wondering how you made those borders to seperate stuff in google doc. Also i am making a family tree. And i got house creation "Andal Invasion" No way in hell i am making a family tree dating back 2000 years. Even 300 BC is mindboggling to me.

god, I want the mine upgrades so bad I can taste them.

but they arent immediately useful.

our lord will want to know what the hell we are doing and we had damned well better have some progress to report. If I were Landon's lord I would be seriously considering marrying the Earp girl off to a competent lord and placing Landon back under them as a landed knight.

I say we take half the archers, half the infantry, and all the cavalry and knights.

we know at least one place the Moon Swallows are sure to be, or have been.

the goat herding village.

we gave our word as man and lord we would help those poor fucks, and weve done jack shit. I say we travel with all haste and kill whatever remains with a moon on its head.

if we are hysterically lucky there will be some people and goats alive. we arent that lucky. but the dead at least deserve what rest the mother can give, and the comfort of the warriors vengeance.

plus less moon swallows means more law and perhaps a pittance of wealth.

and infinitely more important the good will of our lord at strongsong.

Also begining the Bailiffs holding would help with law and eventually double as a trained garrison unit. And we would be abke to say, "yes there are problems, but I am fixing them".

also Maffew is either a traitor or the stupidest person alive. letters from our lord go unread for months. supplies disappear without his knowledge. he doesnt follow up on anything!

And when someone who knows more than him comes along, instead of getting their advice like a normal person he sweats bullets and avoids him.

He is almost certainly fucking Jeyne Stone. And she is probably the mastermind. all it would take is reading his letters.

>>1795864

That's not an exact time of creation. Just a general "Hey, your family started around here, but before the event below this."

And just have some info be available while most was destroyed or lost to time or something.

>>1795961
Just a quick response to this as I'm on break.

Not going to punish you guys for not really doing anything to help the goat village because it's entirely my fault for forgetting to move that plot point further. Trevor was suppose to have a letter from the village that was sent by one of your scouts the rest of the scattered remnants of them. I forgot to do that so I'll bring it up next.

Your thumb fiddles with the strap that kept your long blade in its harness. A part of you considers just going to Ser Trevor, demanding answers, the heat in your temples boils for a moment even at the thought of it but as you walk you decide against the thought. You had grown tired of be bounced about like a child’s plaything, being lied to, mislead, fought at every corner. Your mind ached like a muscle that had sat dormant for far too long. The moment you enter the great hall you find a few of your guards and send them to fetch the majority of your Household. Ser Trevor Trant, Maffew Shett, Lady Jeyne Stone, and Lady Wylla Earp all to be in the great hall within five minutes, you make your way there and a heavy foot clears those few servants about doing their work for the day. The room falls to silence barring the winter winds and crackle of the few fireplaces kept alight.

Ser Trevor Trant is the first to arrive, and you find yourself stiffen when he comes to you and bows, the sword upon his side locked in place, but his armor fully worn. You look about and take the moment to ask the elder Knight a single question, “Trevor, read this for me.”

The Stormlander reads the note over, aloud but mumbled and screws his face up when he finishes, turning it over a few times before handing it back, “Is this some sort of cruel joke?”

“How do you mean?”

“I do not write like that. Those weapons and uniforms were stolen, under Maffew’s watch because he cannot remember that my signature is the entirety of my name and title? And then I was lied to about it-” he’s cut off by Maffew entering, thankfully far more clothed than he had been before.

He leans in close to your ear, “I am not a traitor Landon, my honor stands before that,” Trevor mumbles and gives the paper back to you, taking his seat. You wait a while longer in the deathly silence, you assume ten minutes have gone by and grow impatient, the women taking far longer than you had desired. Impatience grows into annoyance and you decide to begin without them.

“Someone in this House has betrayed me,” you start simply, “Whether it be for power, another, spite I cannot say but what I do know is that I have lost good men to war, taken before their time. By godless heathens and turncloaks no less. Neither of you stand accused of this crime. But I have grown tired and weary of the questioning, of the fighting, of the lies and deception. We will end this tonight,” you finish and wave to your guards who bar the doors shut.

Trevor and Maffew exchange looks, the former speaking first, “Why are we bothering, it is clearly Maffew, the rat bastard has been envious of your position for years. He’s the only one that could fake the reports, forge a letter and rely upon your inability to read to keep him safe. Ser Cador saw right through him, and so do I, so do all of the men.”

Maffew puffs himself with anger, “I would never! Let us not forget who the old bitter, broken Knight is here. The man forgotten by the old Earp, replaced by the rising star of untempered ambition, the old man with nothing left to lose. Who thinks it should have been him. I remember you losing the sword Trevor, your resentment towards being replaced and that blow to your ego will never leave. You know well as I that the Earp men are only loyal because they are loyal to you, and we both see how that ended up didn’t we?”

“So I would kill Marston for it!?” Trevor roars back standing and jabbing his finger into Maffew’s face, “I’d sooner kill you than any one of my men! You hid when they came to the Whitestone, you cowered, you forgot your loyalties just as Lord Earp had. What’s to say you haven’t now?”

Maffew goes to respond the two of them saving stood up and gotten into one another faces, but you stop them with a roar, “ENOUGH!” your voice echoes in the empty great hall you can feel the heat upon your temples as you rise and stare down the two men you trusted the most, “Enough with this bickering or by the Seven I so swear you will both see justice done. I will not have you two at each other’s throats like children. Is this understood?”

The two take a moment longer to stare at one another before they both relent and nod, taking their seats again.

“Good,” you state gravely before turning to the doors and addressing the guards that had entered, “Where are the women?”

“We can’t find ‘em m’lord. Lady Earp’s chambers are empty, Lady Stone’s too. And… And we found a body, one of the servant girls, cook’s daughter, Mel I think? Found it with half a dozen stab wounds in Lady Stone’s apartments. We already ‘ave the men looking, they ain’t ‘bout the yard or at the chapel neither. Done disappeared far as we can tell, a thousand apologies m’lord. We-” he stops when Asher Harp comes from behind him placing a hand on his shoulder.

“I think they fled m’lord,” Harp says, “Or were kidnapped, or something. But… Yeah, things have gone sideways.”

Trevor breathes heavily, Maffew looks at his shoes and you can feel the vein upon your temple ready to burst.

You’ve enough men for the one, give the order to?
>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about it still with the raging winter storm about
>Lock down the castle, and send out search parties

What will Landon do?
>Search Wylla Earp and Jeyne Stone’s rooms, perhaps there is a clue
>Join the hunt (Dependant on first option)
>Something else?

What to do with Maffew Shett and Ser Trevor Trant?
>Detain them until you are certain they are not guilty
>Allow them to join the search, they are both loyal men
>Something else?

You may ask the two of them only three questions total if you desire before Landon must act.

Did Malroy end?

>>1796731
>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about it still with the raging winter storm about

>Search Wylla Earp and Jeyne Stone’s rooms, perhaps there is a clue

>Something else?
I think its justifiable to ask Maffew about his hooded visitors now.

>>1796731
>>Lock down the castle, and send out search parties
>Search Wylla Earp and Jeyne Stone’s rooms, perhaps there is a clue
>Allow them to join the search, they are both loyal men
>Did Jeyne or Wylla ever use Lavender scented things?
>How far along was Wylla's schooling?

>>1796731
The name Mel rang a bell, she's the one the traitor Eli was fucking

>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about it still with the raging winter storm about
The best time for the Swallows to attack would be after the search parties left, reducing our already small garrison

>Search Wylla Earp and Jeyne Stone’s rooms, perhaps there is a clue

>Detain them until you are certain they are not guilty
They'll stay in isolation, but are to be kept warm and unharmed. Perhaps the Seven will see fit to remind them of their duty

>>1796743
>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about
it still with the raging winter storm about

Forgot to add, check the stables see if any horses where taken.

>>1796731
>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about it still with the raging winter storm about
>Search Wylla Earp and Jeyne Stone’s rooms, perhaps there is a clue
>Detain them until you are certain they are not guilty
As of now we can't trust either of them
Also make sure our men know that if they find lady stone and lady earp they may have knives and too be warry of them

>>1796743
>I think its justifiable to ask Maffew about his hooded visitors now.

Doesn't everyone else agree with this question?

>>1796731
voting for a merge of these two
>>1796752
>>1796754

>>1796762
*Does

Fucking typos man.

>>1796743
supporting

i'm expecting Mel or Stone, possibly both

>>1796731
>Lock down the castle, surely they must be about it still with the raging winter storm about
>Join the hunt (Dependant on first option)
Landon would be shit at looking for clues.
>Detain them until you are certain they are not guilty

>>1796762
Yes, can we ask about the lavender too?


My guess is jeyne killed Mel because mel saw too much and then scooted away.

>>1796775
>Landon would be shit at looking for clues.

This sounds like a job for our brothers. Let them try to figure it out Hardy Boys style.

>>1796728
>>1796731
Moral of story: stay in school kids.

>>1796780
Jump off ladders and blow our push for being a meth head?