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>>1840933
>Automated Mines built
>Corps of Engineering HQ built!


ALERT! We are at 99% energy capacity. We cannot run the Vehicular Assembly Line or the Automated Mines without more power.

>Incomplete projects include the new Underground Farms and the Universal Disintegrator
>Your Legendary Large Tunnel Boring machine is working on building a tunnel north from the divide into the NCR's lines

The new military base will need to be thoroughly explored and any new repairs and power lines built to add it to your nation. This could be extensive, and your scientists request several actions toward this.

NEWS!
Military pride has improved following the construction of the Engineering Corps
Moral has improved now that peoples rations can be converted into meat!

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You tell Dandan that you've been considering going out and infiltrating the NCR to get a lay of the land and its people and discover any important military secrets. Dandan is hesitant on the idea. It would pull her away from training the recruits. Despite there being other Crimson Dragoons, she is still their best agent and she already has to make up for lost time following her last pregnancy.

Normally Crimson Dragoons were not supposed to get pregnant, but the Elders overturned this stating the "need to repopulate China." In saying this subtly insinuates you intend to fill her belly again, and it wouldn't be surprising considering you've had three dates in the past months and now have three new and expectant mothers.

Tactfully dodging the question, you remid her that she did wish to learn about the cultures and how to blend in with other people and surely this will add to the Chinese spy program by learning how to infiltrate the NCR. After she almost refuses, you manage to convince her.

>This will count as your hero action for this turn

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STATS HERE

>BIG MT
https://pastebin.com/jAXYFRB1

>THE NURSERY
https://pastebin.com/ic3ac1xL

RELEVANT STATS:
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Low) Fissile (Average)
Hexcrete Bags (Above Average)

4 Action Cap.

Available Actions: Civilian, Construction, Military, Research, ZAX, Hero
+Robotic Research does not count toward cap.
+Biological Research does not count toward cap
>>>>>Turn: 118

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You have gained a SECOND CONSTRUCTION ACTION!
Although it does not count over cap, your effective ability to build things has doubled!

4 Action Cap.

Available Actions: (1)Civilian, (2)Construction, (1)Military, (1)Research, (1)Hero

+Robotic Research does not count toward cap.
+Biological Research does not count toward cap
+ZAX Action does not count toward cap

>>1840970
>repopulate China
Lennyface.jpg

Civilian
- Expand our school system. Better tools, curriculum, etc
- Receive applications for clubs and community activities with a companion or two taking this all down. Have them organize a civic participation drive to get everyone involved and debating which clubs to join, start, etc.

Construction
(1) New solar plant (medium)
(2) Cold Fusion Reactor

Military
- More engineering squads.
- Clear the military base?

Research
- Cold Fusion Reactors! How to make em, how they work.

Bio Research
- How to cure FEV (until we get sample of SHI plant)

Robotic Research
- Greater modularity between robots beyond chassis

Zax Action
- Help research Cold Fusion Reactors

>>1841002
I don't suppose a working Cold fusion reactor in the Military base will help in anyway with research? *wink* *wink*

>>1840970
>This will count as your hero action for this turn
Does this mean for this turn our action cap is at 3, or that We just don't have access to the courier?

>>1841002
>- How to cure FEV (until we get sample of SHI plant)
Are you talking about FEV or Radiation?

>>1840970
>hero
Do the date

>civ
Expand our school system. Better tools, curriculum, etc
- Receive applications for clubs and community activities with a companion or two taking this all down. Have them organize a civic participation drive to get everyone involved and debating which clubs to join, start, etc.
-enable culture based occupations like art

>construct
Connect the military base to the city grid. Bring that cold fusion into the fold

>construct 2
Brain vault

>Robot research
Robot controlled devils tongue

http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Devil%27s_Tongue_subterranean_flame_tank


>Bio research
Further salient research. Have it be able to be made into any food or drink.

>Zax research
Work on better cybernetic processing cores- smaller and denser. I want them to be able to replace brains.

Passive build
Civil help bots- cooking assistants, city cleaners, etc.

>>1841008
Eventually I'd like to reverse engineer the SHI plant. On the other hand I'd like to start FEV research for UNITY as well as trying to mellow down the BoS. Since we don't have the SHI plant might as well start on FEV research which has been on our plate for God knows how long now.

Rolled 73 (1d100)

>>1841009
Supporting

We need to archive last thread

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1841009
I'll support that

>>1841009
Writing!

>>1841056
You need one more roll OP

Someone roll a Nat 100

Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1841009

Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>1841056

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>>1841009
>construct
>Connect the military base to the city grid. Bring that cold fusion into the fold

The Cold Fusion technology is incredible. It only requires an insignificant amount of fissile fuel to create heavy isotopes of Hydrogen from Water, and not even that much water, generate enough fuel for the main reactor to kick in and take over the whole process.

Power without the need for fissile materials! If only the United States had more time, this and other technologies you have rediscovered could have avoided the resource wars.

Or perhaps it was never about resources. Perhaps, war. . .oh well, you know.

Terminals indicate that this isnt even the full extent of their capabilities. Advanced Control Rods were meant to be shipped in from Hawaii, but never arrived due to the bombs. Those would have doubled the generators output.

Unfortunately, diverting power from the military outpost will render most of the base defenses and systems without power, but will activate both your mines and the Automated Vehicle Assembly plant.

Accept?

>>1841098
Deny

>>1841098
>Deny
Is just checking if it works going to take the whole contrast action or can be add the action to make the solar plant

>>1841107
You have built the power lines in case you want to divert power, its definitely working alright these things are powering the entire base. Granted much of the base appears to be blown to pieces, but the defense system still works.

>1841113
Cool, at least we have that done, also we can also divert power from BigMT to the base using logic

>>1841128
Well, yes if absolutely needed but BigMT is currently at 99% power keeping all of your stuff running (vehicles and bots included).

>>1841129
I know just if we get the Base up and running again, we will be able to power more things in the future.

>>1841098
Do it. No one knows abkut the base. Station our own forces for defense.

>>1841138
Supporting this.

Depower the defences, take the power and station our military for defence m

>>1841138
Ill support this.

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>>1841009
>>Robot research
A flamethrower variant of the Tunneler is devised, mimicking the Chinese flame tank.

This one's cargo hole is filled with either liquid fuel which has short range but is very devastating to flesh with a much wider arc and more liable to cause fires. or napalm which is medium range and fires flaming gelatin blobs of napalm. More spread out with a less immediate inferno effect, but it sticks to stuff and burns hotter where it touches. you don't want even a drop of this on your skin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDZ54cvg0hY&t=21s

The drawback is to make room for the fuel, the armor is thinner, and it has to surface to fire making it vulnerable to armor piercing weapons. And like all tunnelers it can only penetrate soft dirt, not concrete or solid rock. But it is a terrifying weapon all the same.

>>1841098
I knew that was going to happen... We should start researching Cold Fusion next turn then.

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>>1841009
>>civ
>Expand our school system. Better tools, curriculum, etc
The Expanded School System is complete! Fitting the Followers standards, it contains numerous VR pods enough for 100 people at a time, where the bulk of virtual reality education and simulations take place of such accuracy users "wouldn't even be able to tell which is reality and which isn't". There are also VR classrooms, which allow for real world physical training simulations to help check that what they've learned in VR also works in tune with real world physics. Mostly, it is a holographic overlay over physical objects such as chairs, tables, and such.

Still was pretty funny when you put a real chair next to a fake one and watched people fall on their assess.

At long last, the Followers dream of mass education of the highest caliber is near completion! The only limitations of what can be taught is what information you can put in them.

>con't

>>1841201
Do those VR pods have an emergency battery in case of blackout?

>>1841167
>And like all tunnelers it can only penetrate soft dirt, not concrete or solid rock.
We should research some kind of subterranean concrete-busting missile.

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>>1841201
- Receive applications for clubs and community activities with a companion or two taking this all down. Have them organize a civic participation drive to get everyone involved and debating which clubs to join, start, etc.
-enable culture based occupations like art

As if waiting for such an opportunity, the Hubologists open up their own organization. Separate yet sponsored by their religion, and call it the "The Architect Society of America" or ASA whose mission statement is to promote science and enlightenment through community works. It is the most populus club so far, with members from the Followers of the Apocalypse and the Engineering Corps.

A smaller portion, including Arcade, simply recreate the Followers of the Apocalypse as a minor branch.

Raul and Veronica form an amateur tinkerers club, which by no coincidence, has members from a club of amateur roboticists who also want to host bigger "Robot Fighting Games"

The workers of the Lobotomite Den and the Brahmin Ranchers form the "Animal Domestication Club", combining their similar talents and trying to spread awareness and promotion of lobotomite use as an accepted social past time.

Dean Domino, Unity, and Jonathan are trying to form a Musicians organization to help train new musicians.

Janith has begun a cooking club too. Certainly she needs the help now that Salient Red is out and everyone wants to eat her cooking.

A few of the tailors are coming together to form fashion clubs.

Other clubs and organizations come up too, for art makers and artisans of all kinds.

This, combined with the VR school, has created an explosion in desire for more free time to pursue hobbys and the arts and sciences. Most notably it is also being used as a good time to raise awareness of "De-brainification" and of the other various augments, of how safe and tested it is, and how much it has improved their lives.

>People are more accepting of debrainification

>>1841218
These designs shouldn't kill people if they are knocked out due to an EMP or loss of power. However if a sudden EMP strike after long term usage they may suffer from a little Cryo-shock, which isn't lethal, but leaves one feeling frigid and fatigued until they recover body heat.

>>1841242
Yeah, that lobotomite club might have to end. Dont really want that as an acceptable passtime.

>>1841248
On the other hand it sounds like it might lead to Warhammer 40k servitors.

>>1841254
Yeah, but servitors only need to exist because the mechanicus is so dogmatic they avoid independent robotics as much as possible. Also because the universe makes everything not-dogmatic go to shit. But servitors are not neccessary when we our robotics make tau blush.

>>1841257
>Yeah, but servitors only need to exist because the mechanicus is so dogmatic they avoid independent robotics as much as possible

Do you know nothing of warhammer 40k Lore?

>>1841257
Servitors exist because hostile AI almost wiped out Humanity and the Emperor said no more of that shit. So the Admech thought they would be clever by making the human brain element control their computers instead of created artificials, and even then Half the Admech were pretty mad about not having their AIs anyways.

>>1841271
The mechanicus is super religious about tech, and see robots as tech-heresy.

Not without good reason, see men of iron.

>>1841281
i'm well aware, Hence why I was confused by such a weird ass statement.

>>1841286
Im saying the mechanicus is all religious so they avoid robots

But also its a crapsack universe, so faith in the emperor is pretty much the best option to not die.

But we don't need to deal with servitors because we have robots, like the tau.

It was a badly phrased statement. Just forget it.

Side Note, I want to build a toned down version of the Nova Cannon for our Airships

>>1841291
>Im saying the mechanicus is all religious so they avoid robots
>Religion is the reason they avoid robots
>Yet states he knows about the Men of Iron

Anon, what the fuck are you doing?

>>1841292
What's a Nova Cannon?

>>1841295
Just because you had 1 ai rebellion doesn't mean you shouldn't try again.

Which the mechanicus doesn't because Omnisiah.

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>>1841009
>>construct 2
>Brain vault

>Jacob Miles
"Never imagine I'd be building vaults after the Nuclear Apocalypse."

The Brain Vault is a very ambitious and expensive project, but cerainly not without merit. Jacob and Kreger want it to be built as deep as feasibly possible, to protect against even a direct warhead, as the Old World built their Vaults. It will be built away from the Geothermal Vent of course, and have a direct connection to the Tesla Tower however it will also include the new Teleportal Transmission system with its unlimited range.

They intend to give its own self-sustaining life support system which can keep brains alive indefinitely, as well as extra stocks of Salient "Just in case". They also want to build it using the incredibly rare and expensive to produce Brain-Tektite Glass which can withstand even mini-nuke blasts.

In short, they would really like this thing to be done in a year. Or half a year. And thats even considering you've doubled your output, but they assure you it will be well worth the wait. They could build it faster of course, if they were to cut corners.

>Kreger
"If we're going to be facing the NCR's air power it would be a bad idea for my soldiers and myself to turn into one of those. . .animals, just because a bomb struck the place we keep our brains in."

>>1841302
Anon, Do you not understand the fact the Men of Iron was one of the KEY reasons humanity's Dark Age empire fell apart?

Ontop of that, part of the codition for them to be 'keep' the whole Omnisiah thing was not AI research. They have a a few good reasons to 'avoid' AI's besides this whole religion reason.

>>1841304
No cutting corners

>>1841301
A Nova Cannon is a weapon of great size and destructive power used by ships of the Imperial Navy which propels explosive projectiles close to the speed of light that, depending on the Author, causes a blast anywhere from the size of a small planet to kilometers in length.

Its very pretty, but drawbacks are Incredibly slow reload times.

>>1841304
Do everything in your power to make this as indestructible as we can make it.

>>1841308
So basically a big ass gun.
Yea that's already in my airship design.

>>1841304
We've operated with one construction action for years now. We can wait another one.

>>1841304
Do it right.

>>1841310
..... I mean, yeah you can call it a big ass gun. I guess that simplifies it correctly.

>>1841304
No cutting corners

>>1840970
Iirc you said the 2nd construction action won't count towards the cap. Did this not happen because we don't have enough power? Or do we need to build more stuff?

I support diverting power from the military base.

>>1841326
More power would help.

I need to retract that statement, if I have to dissapoint. Above cap actions are not meant to be something given like candy, even with considerable investment. They're meant to be something that signifies that you are the greatest and the goddamn best at what you do, maybe even in the whole world.

Robotics is from having the information from House's systems, you being a Robco-Certified specialilst, BigMT's robotics research, and the ZAX themselves being robot specialists. That's a lot of freaking robot power.

The ZAX action is the ZAX. ZAX's are very very good at what they do.

The biological research comes from Diana's 200 years of life and in general by how absolutely amazing the Nursery's collection of preserved lifeforms and investment is. It was built as the shining centerpiece of the big Greenway Hydroponics company which actually gave the food systems much of the Vaults use to this day.

Can you get a free construction action? Its possible but I anticipate by the time you do, you will already be working on a national scale instead of your current city-state scale and by that time actions will need to be recalculated entirely

>>1841326
>>1841333
What does "Above cap" mean?

>>1841338
You have an action cap of 4, but different types of actions you can take.

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>>1841009
>>Bio research
>Further salient research. Have it be able to be made into any food or drink.
Chemically, salient research has peaked but as it stands, Salient can make just about any fruit, plant, or meat product. These includes sugars, and even bee's honey!

It can even make artificial eggs, though Janith and Jacob says that real eggs taste a little better.

Advances are instead made in compact machines designed to easily refine the Salient foods into other food products. Small flour mills for flour and cornstarch, processing machines to make condiments and oils, replicating the vast food industry of the past.

You can even make NUKA COLA! Real nuka cola with the fizz! Wow!

Replicators can replicate any kind of food or drink, but this is much less energy intensive!

As a bonus, thanks to your improved construction abilities, the kitchen has been expanded to include these new machines. Janith puts up more help wanted signs, and several people sign up to her cooking classes.

Janith thinks more people should be able to cook at home too, and suggests an action to produce nice home appliances like the NCR's catalogs have.

>Cass
"Hmmm, instead of buying from the NCR why not outdo them in the appliance industry?"

>>1841371
Making me hungry with that pic of the that burger. Morale is for sure going to be boosted. But they still want their windows.

>>1841375
Well the hubbs can do that whenever they want. Why arent they doing it?

>>1841378
If it's not windows they will now said something else. Endless cycle.

>>1841378
They're working on it. Passively, mostly using their ASA society and the new school to train enough people to work the factories while your robots are busy working the big damn Vault project.

They'll be able to get it done, and you won't need to spend an action on it

Well now that we've improved the school i think we should start building power plants, get those underground farms and then just start making tons of military units to invade the Legion.

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>Passive build
Skilled in the art of Robco designs, it is childsplay for you to build Mr. Handy's.

How should they be distributed?

>One for everybody to own as there's.
>Owned by the state, citizens are merely "renting them" for personal use
>Reserve them for street cleaning, clothes washing, and cooking and other public services
>Other?

>>1841386
>One for everybody to own as there's.
But any modifications will be inspected by the state to ensure quality and safety.

>>1841386
>One for everybody to own as there's.
but lets keep an eye on them.

>>1841386
Robots for everybody!

>>1841386
>One for everybody to own as there's.
>However make sure we can use them to spy

>>1841386
>One for everybody to own as there's.
Tie them to the house.

You have a house, you have a robot - easy.

>>1841386
One per household, integrated to work with the home Alexa. extra bots should be made available to our newly established clubs too. I doubt everybody needs a personal robot but if that's not enough we could also set up free robot rentals for more than just mr handys, the farm bots and power loaders should be able to be "checked out" and used as needed as long as they are returned in good shape, breaking robots or violating the spirit of the service would be cause to have your rental ability suspended temporarily or permanently as needed.

Obviously James Bond will keep tabs on all checked out bots.

>>1841386
>>One for everybody to own as there's.

>>1841333
QM, I dont know if you realized this but you have just royally fucked us. We have been trying to get a second construction action going as a "bonus action" by your standards. Now you are telling us we STILL have to sacrifice an action but if we EVER want a bonus one, it is so far off to be a moot point?? What the fuck QM?!? This is EXACTLY the sort of shit you pull that gets people angry.

>>1841386
>>One for everybody to own as there's.
Have some for public services.

>>1841400
I don't understand, what exactly is the problem?
It looks like we have a 2nd construction action.

>>1841400
Nice dubs
stop getting angry this is what I expected from a second Construction action

>>1841400
Im fine with how it turned out.

>>1841407
That we are still at the 4 action cap and if we want 2 construction actions we can only do 2 other actions (in addition to onus ones).

>>1841408
This makes the whole second and third cons. actions so pointless it hurts. For all the trouble we went through (and considering we are still not done with it - power) it is a shit reward.

>>1841400
We got a second construction action. It makes sense that It's not free.

We just need to figure out how to get a bigger action cap now.

>>1841416
But it doesnt make it pointless. Now we can go, military, civ, con, con, for example to build things up at twice the speed.

>>1841416
>That we are still at the 4 action cap and if we want 2 construction actions we can only do 2 other actions (in addition to onus ones).
Oh wow that does sound like bullshit.
Do we only need to build more power plants to get that 5ft action?

>>1841418
>We just need to figure out how to get a bigger action cap now.
QM what do we need to do to increase our action Cap?

>>1841418
As QM said, we wont see that until we are far into a "national" size, whatever qualifies as that. Meaning not for a long time yet. Meaning, we wasted all this time on something we will rarely use (military, research and hero actions are far more valuable in this case).

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Every Household gets their own personal Mr. Handy. There's not enough space or reason for every single person to have one,

In addition to Mr. Handy's, everyone CAN have their own little Muggy Style securitron too. Mostly as a toy, but still quite useful.

To say that people are happy is an understatement. A robot to do all the cooking, cleaning, even some light babysitting?

Everyone feels fancy and ecstatic.

>Moral has improved

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Big debates continue to go on between the Pioneers of Post Scarcity and the so called "Skinner'st". The Pioneers say that people shouldn't be compelled to work, even by motivator chips. Robots have effectively replaced humans in our economic scheme. Citizens, after basic mandatory education, should be "retired" by default. The truly motivated and ambitious people can then achieve jobs, or pursue cultural arts a hobbies not jobs. Yes there will be people who dont want to work, but robots can and are doing all the work. They want to copy of the Vault City model.

The Skinnerist think that motivation derived from the same neural chemicals is no different if it is produced by random chance as it is by a chip. That the concept of work being a mandatory facet of life should be kept, as a fundamental of society. Even if these jobs are simple administrative tasks with robots doing much of the labour.

The pioneers argue that motivator chips would be inappropriate for jobs like artists, painters, and writers who would end up producing quantity items not quality. A man on drugs can write a book, but only a dedicated sober man can write a good book.

While still far away, both sides do admit only time will tell once the nation reaches a much higher population size.

>>1841424
Everybody works, no lazing about. It can be artsy work or science but if anyone is seen doing nothing for a period of time there will be repercussions. (No more Handy, then less credits and so on until an improvement is seen. Alexa will monitor)

>>1841420
You can increase your action cap by having more/bigger cities with either human or robotic population bases.

For example, the Divide could be theoretially turned into a city. Its jut an outpost right now.

Eventually once you have either a big enough city or enough cities, you will transition to national stage. Your action cap will be returned to 4, but will have much more power and ability to them and furthermore certain actions won't even be necessary like improving sidewalks or windows or whatever because the cities administration themselves will handle and administrate that.

Your task will be more like a president managing state resourcs, rather than a mayor handling a city as you are doing right now. Which is how Caesar, Yaunker, and General Barnaky are operating.

Now that you have twice the constructive power that you had before, thats even more in reach. Currently you have two small cities right now which have room for more growth, though BigMT will likely need to grow up than out due to the crater hemming it in.

>>1841431
How stalinist.

>>1841424
Pioneers have the right idea. Support them.
You will find boredom and inspiration and desire for self improvement to be wonderful motivators.

>>1841431

You are absolutely terrible at running a society.

Here's a small truth, there are only so many jobs that can be filled and not everyone has the mental creativity to be artsy.

>>1841432
>You can increase your action cap by having more/bigger cities with either human or robotic population bases.
>Now that you have twice the constructive power that you had before, thats even more in reach.
Oh, well that is gonna be easy then.

>>1841434
you realize we have Implates and now an education system that can be tailored to each person right?

>>1841432
And now please in actual numbers. How many cities (and how big) will we need for a bigger cap? How many cities (and how big) will we need to go national? What is the gameplay difference between mayor and president/dictator?

>>1841432
So Qm, Essentially the reason that the NCR always seems to be ahead of us is because they are using National level Actions where as we are still just using what I guess is City Level Actions?

>>1841432
>>1841435
Ok here's what i think we should do.
First build more power plants.
Then build a tunnel network for easy transportation and military movement.
Then start pumping out loader bots and military bots to make more cities.
During all this we'll have recruitment beacons constantly on.

>>1841436

Congratulations!

That still doesn't stop the fact that unless we are expanding perpetually at a fast pace with infrastructure keeping pace, even post-planetary conquest if necessary, there will STILL only be so many jobs and labor positions that can be realistically filled, even "Busy body" work.

And that solution for "Artsy" products gets you cookie-cutter lazy "Modern art"

>>1841433
>>1841434
As >>1841436 stated, the "natural abilities" can easily be altered and personal education is something we are striving for. People will have free time, free days and holidays but we will not build a system of asocial layabouts feeding off the system instead of adding to it. This is what your pink glasses wont allow you to see and branding this as somehow brutalist is frankly misguided.

If people not working is a problem we could encourage small businesses like shoe making, glass making, metalworking and stuff.

>>1841441
I agree with you but also agree with >>1841440 comment about how you can't force artists to work.
Can't we be selective about who we motivate?

>>1841441

There are really own two end-points for the different paths.

We either become The Culture, and have a post-scarcity society of people doing whatever they want watched over by Artificial Minds, or we go 1984-esque "Stay busy or get recycled, we'll be watching."

>>1841440
You have a point. When we get to a level where this becomes a problem we will tackle the situation. Currently, we can get far more out of our people.

>>1841445
I'd honestly prefer the latter, i don't want humanity to evolve into Zetans.

>>1841424
Why not both?

Nobody is forced to work but by applying Skinnerist model they will be highly motivated to do it on their own and derive a lot of pleasure.
There's no doubt that Skinner's method is highly effective.

>>1841445
I can agree to us being a nation of people who know nothing about hardship in the endgame. In this very moment, however, we need everybody to pitch in.

So I guess I am in favor of dandy poetry WHEN we have no further need of our citizens.

>>1841445
Could always combine the two. All Citizens are required to perform mandatory service, After working for however long they can retire and do whatever the fuck they want.

>>1841438
I've been trying to help you guys appreciate the difference in scale between you and these other empires.

In 2196 NCR had already created five independant states, each with their own city capital and surrounded by smaller outlying villages and outposts. This was 90 years ago, and it has tripled in size by then in the least.

If we suppose the NCR has 1 million men today (and this is a very low estimate today), if we compare that to your total number of humans and robots which by a gross estimate is probably 1000 at the most, they have 1000 men for every one of you.

They're really really really really big.

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> What is the gameplay difference between mayor and president/dictator?
Size of units and scale of actions.

No more squads for example, you'll have to start working with regiments and divisions, even battalions and armies.

It would be prudent, rather than organizing the construction of better roads yourself, to organize infrastructural bureaus and administrative systems within cities. When cities need more resources, you go out and find new mines or new locations to connect by rail, and the cities will work out the smaller details.

I'll probably start using the American map more often.

>>1841455
>>1841452


That's perfectly reasonable.

All I'm saying is that one path leads to our people more or less being happy sardines with a few strong outliers, and the other sets us up for being the BBEG in GalCiv.

>>1841457
>When cities need more resources, you go out and find new mines or new locations to connect by rail, and the cities will work out the smaller details.
>Not just building Underground Reactors connected to Universal Disintegrators to allow for resource generation.

>>1841452
>>1841456
I support this.

>>1841459
>BBEG in GalCiv
Also not a bad thing :D

>>1841457
And the other questions too please.
>>1841437

>>1841457
I honestly don't understand why people keep whining on and on about NCR and other factions progression.

Go back to thread 1, when OP have choice of playing as NCR, Legion, House or taking Mojave. What did the players choose? The hardcore nightmare difficulty Enclave meme.
The players chose the hardest difficulty. Instead of playing as established nation with big population, cities, infrastructure, resources, etc. They chose to lead 7 men out of an old bunker.

For some reason they keep thinking that everything should revolve around the player. That other factions should not discover and use old world miracle facilities, that they just sit around keeping the status quo till the player puts things into motion. Like some kind of a video game.

OP, stop entertaining these people and just move on.

>>1841437
That is a very multifaceted question. It honestly depends on the makeup of each city, what facilities are in it, its populace (and their place in it), local and available resources, and so on.

There will be a difference between creating a robot factory complex out of the Divide than say, building a tunnel under the Legion/NCR to Mexico to start ruling Mexican cities and their populace and putting them toward your work force.

>>1841478
And let me just also say You guys aren't the only people with Heroes.

>>1841479
>There will be a difference between creating a robot factory complex out of the Divide than say, building a tunnel under the Legion/NCR to Mexico to start ruling Mexican cities and their populace and putting them toward your work force.
What's the difference? Cause honestly i'm planning to do the former.

>>1841481
We will be if we muder / kidnap them all

>>1841478
The problems that irk us is the fact that these nations progress in such a fast manner as to be unfeasible for large nations TODAY. That means, the NCR has achieved industrial and scientific advances (large scale, mind you) in 5 years that would take actual nations decades and something that the NCR (pre-quest) couldnt do in 100 years. It is not the size difference of the nation that is worrysome, it is the seemingly turboboosted developement for the sake of adversity that is.

>>1841479
Then give me an average, a guideline, an example of what works. You are, again, keeping us so in the dark we dont know what we are stumbling into.

Anyone want to do >>1841439 so we become a nation?

>>1841481
That should have been obvious when we first saw Yanuker.

Hell even Caesar and BoS General could be considered heroes.

>>1841457
Thats making a lot more sense now qm.

>>1841490
We should just work towards taking over New Vegas and the Mojave. Then we can move to Utah. And perhaps then lay road towards claiming northern lawless wasteland.

Hopefully NCR hasn't taken over New Vegas yet

>>1841457
You've done good and alright mate.

>>1841479
Tunnel under the Legion/NCR to seize Enclave assets in Mexico you say?

>>1841497
>We should just work towards taking over New Vegas and the Mojave.
That's part of my plan, see
>Then start pumping out loader bots and military bots to make more cities.
We can begin making military robots earlier if you want.

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>>1841009
>>Zax research
>Work on better cybernetic processing cores- smaller and denser. I want them to be able to replace brains.
Synthetic brains. Computers with the very same capability of what a Brain can do. Manage the human body and all its delicate intricacies, hold the very fabric of what makes humans sentient thinking beings.

Sentient machines are not unheard of, but what takes a baby only 3-4 years, even the best computers and ZAX's without organic components might take 200 years to break free of its programmed bonds and gain intellect.

Your vast team of researchers is on the case. Currently two theories are proposed. Microscopic cybernetic cells meant to mimic human tissue, including brain tissue, but also are programmable. This idea while having merit, is unfortunately not currently feasible with your existing facilities. BigMT wasn't geared toward that, though other facilities out there might have been.

The other, more approachable idea are highly advanced processor chips with extremely sufficient programming, perhaps with a dash of chaos and unpredictability, but most of all the ability to learn. Your scientists begin working on "Machine Brains". They can't give you an estimate of the where or when, but it is now within the realm of possibility and that's the most important part.

---

AHS-9, the Forecaster, and Unity predict that even if these machine brains were to mimic humanity or even gain consciousness, they will not be able to use, what AHS-9 calls, "psychokinetic energy" which requires organic components found in intelligent persons, as outlined by Dick Hubbels book and theories on psychokinetic energy.

And, of course, as machines they may or may not be more prone to EMP than an organic mind.

Luckily it also means their brains are much more durable and theoretically can be removed without killing them.

>>1841488
Well, the general brought in some tech, namely the gas making tech, they found the crashed shuttlecraft, reverse engineered the hyposprays and seemed to have made relays for the emh, oddball gave them them hexacrete and salient, which thry improved a little, and then they found townes laser base, the main one, which explains much of their advances.

The microwave tank is straight out of Generals, in that it does not harm vehicles, including drones, but burns everyone in a building.

The NCR has made very little actual new developments in the field of science.

>>1841503
Or well, without killing the brains at least. The body might die.

>>1841503
Do our scientists think there is a potential way to link the cybernetic brains to Organic brain in a jars through a chip or some other application?

>>1841505
>including drones
The NCR warned your robots to stay out of the direct line of fire of the beam, whether it was clearing the area around itself or within a building.

They did not give you concrete information on what happens when it strikes robots, but from small rumors you heard from NCR pilots it can disrupt large scale electronics if it stays on target long enough.

Obviously, unless you have the thing, all you can go by is rumors and watching it melt the crap out of bugs.

>>1841505
And I agree that they have adequate reasons for having the tech they do. However the point I am making is that the implementation of all these discoveries went at a pace so quick as to illogical in any real sense. Setting up the infrastructure to make the machinery to get the machinery to the forests to cut the trees to make the machinery for fuel and to then fabricate All the machines that use said fuel IN A YEAR is francly ridiculous. Not to mention all the other advances going on simultaneously. It just doesnt work that way.

>>1841510
As in increase a persons thinking power with an entire other brain?

Theoretically yes, but there may be unforeseen consequences. Some theorize a patient might develop double and risk schizophrenia, others say this is a pessimistic outlook and you won't know until you try it out.

Currently the ZAX has five brains, but only allows one brain control at a time, never inputting all five brains at once.

>>1841516
I was thinking more along the lines of a replacement for the tesla coil. Im still trying to come up with a way to make body swapping feasible for brain in a jars that have lost theirs.

>>1841516
QM, answer please. >>1841489

>>1841518
>Im still trying to come up with a way to make body swapping feasible for brain in a jars that have lost theirs.
Isn't it already feasible since we've researched advanced Tesla coils?

>>1841521
Qm said that the lobotomite still has the dangly bit in the brain that controls the body that the coil relays to. So for our Bodys that die, our brain in jars have already lost that bit, im trying to come up with a work around.

>>1841516
We should build seperate ZAX for each personality

>>1841526
>Qm said that the lobotomite still has the dangly bit in the brain that controls the body that the coil relays to.
Why not just figure out a way to attach that dangly bit to a brain?

>>1841528
Later.

>>1841526
Oh that part.

>Follower
"Theoretically it is possible. If we excise that part of the brain with the Tesla Coil and successfully replace it with a suitable vital organ monitoring artificial brain."

>Forecaster
"Though you may achieve what you seek, I predict there will be consequences. Both good and ill. No, I don't know what they will be."

>>1841529
Well its more that the Dangly bit is destroyed in the case of disintegration or what have you. Im thinking we can do a do a complete brain extraction so we dont leave it behind, and connect in a cyberbrain that syncs up to our jar through a chip or something. That way if the body dies, we can build a new one.

>>1841531
Yeah. Obviously. We don't even have enough power to run them.

OP, how is the vote for directing power out of the military base looking? We need to power up our industry.
Did we completely finish the checklist of stuff we needed for 2nd con action?

Also, how is the automated resource gathering from the Divide looking?

>>1841539
>OP, how is the vote for directing power out of the military base looking?
Most people voted no in favor of keeping the base running including its defense grid

>>1841533
QM
QM
QM

Can I have answers?

>>1841489

>>1841541
Dude.
Fuck off.

>>1841539
>Also, how is the automated resource gathering from the Divide looking?
All it needs is an action to build the automated gathering systems.

>>1841544
which we need more power to..well power?

we really need to build a larger solar plant

>>1841489
Anon, the greatest calculator in the World, House, could not predict you. Certainly I find I can't predict you guys either, you really manage to amaze me with your decisions sometimes.

Just recently you guys make a really good decision thats going to work out (better) for you than if you didnt

I understand why its so important for you to request timeframes anon especially if you want to pick the 'fastest' of them, but there are simply so many different routes with different ways to go about this I wouldn't know where to begin. there are many doors yes ed-boy?

>>1841547
>we really need to build a larger solar plant
And underground cold fusion plants.
And the universal disintegrator so we can make metal from energy.

>>1841549
did we get the cold fusion design? Cause we can tap into the under ground water right?

Ok here's what i think we should be doing next turn.

ZAX research Cold fusion.

Civ gather metal and automate the Divide salvaging.

Construction builds more robots to expand our outposts into cities.(Or take over New Vegas)

>>1841548
Well since you answered him can you answer me? >>1841484

>>1841550
I don't think we did.

>>1841548
>Just recently you guys make a really good decision thats going to work out (better) for you than if you didnt

is it more hubology stuff?

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The Boneyard. The NCR's largest city, even larger than its capital, and some say its industrial heart. Built on the ruins of old world Los Angeles, massive skyscrapers reach up into the sky even bigger than those of the Divide, structures so large they survived even the nuclear fires (though not a direct blast).

Many NCR companies are corporations have headquarters here using the still intact buildings, including the Republic Reserve which now functions out of an old world Gold Depository and major Bank. Most famously, it was penetrated and blown up by the NCR many decades ago but has since recovered.

You and Dandan have arrived on foot, without any papers or passports, pretending to be:
>Unregistered NCR frontier citizens looking for proper citizenship and a new home
>Prospectors (Scavengers) coming to the great boneyard to see what's left to be picked clean
>Refugee's from the Legion having come all this way in search of a job
>Other?

>>1841556
>Refugee's from the Legion having come all this way in search of a job

>>1841484
Robot power vs People Power, plus the prospect of new population centers with existing infrastructures, facilities, even militaries..

>>1841558
Are you saying that People power is superior to robot power.
Cause you and i are gonna have a problem if you are.

>>1841556
>>Prospectors (Scavengers) coming to the great boneyard to see what's left to be picked clean

>>1841556
Prospectors

Anyone want to talk about how to invade New Vegas?

>>1841556
>>Prospectors (Scavengers) coming to the great boneyard to see what's left to be picked clean

>>1841573
>>1841560
>>1841567
You decide to pretend to be prospectors, and explain the concept to Dandan.

The world is one giant ruin, filled with ancient things many of which have value. Some have become rich overnight after discovering an important find, but most just look for a piece of scrap or junk that will get them enough bottlecaps to buy a meal.

You take on the disguise of a scavenger, traveling with Dandan who takes up an alias as well as a former Shi.

There are many places you consider going to. Perhaps find a place to stay, even look for a temporary job.
>-The Commercial District
>-NCR "New Housing" District
>-The Downtown Area
>-The Industrial District
>-Angel's Boneyard University
>-Adytum aka "Prospector Town"

>>1841574
Prospector town? Maybe? I don't know

>>1841574
>-Adytum aka "Prospector Town"

>>1841580
Dont worry, the Courier hasn't been here in ages either and things seem changed

>>1841548
QM please. This is a civ game with long term planning. This is what I want to do but frankly we know jack-all about the world at large or how it relates to ingame mechanics. What I asked of you was an example of what is and isnt a nation and at what point the transition is. I have no doubt that we will reach it "sometime in the future" but a civ game is inherintly based on long-term strategy and this is what is currently hard to do.

>>1841548
>Just recently you guys make a really good decision thats going to work out (better) for you than if you didnt
Is this the decision to allow civilian industry and clubs?

>>1841617
This is also part of my gripe. We have no feedback on which decisions are good and which bad besides our gut. And again, not conducive to longterm planning.

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>>1841580
>>1841582
"Prospector Town" is the official name of what everyone else knows as "Adytum". It was once a den for a group of armed and powerful Slavers known as the "Regulators". According to legend, a mysterious hero of NCR myth who is said to have been a direct descendant of the Vault Dweller came here one day. he killed all the slavers and free'd the slaves, and restored the hydroponics system with his intelligent knowledge. a plaque commemorates this man, though a more recent addition calls him the "embodiment of civilized man in the struggle against barbarism and slavery".

In any case the settlement, like the rest of the Boneyard, is doing very well. the old Los Angeles Aqueduct leading from Lake Owens has been known since the Great War, but due to intense radiation from the lake and the aqueduct itself has never seen use. but in recent years with the joining of the Shi, the NCR has restored and repaired the aqueduct, and installed means of purifying water. although most of the water in the aqueduct is said to still be radioactive, the NCR has built numerous water treatment plants at its ends in the Boneyard to purify fresh water, as new farms grow large crops which are then turned into Salient Purple or fed to Brahmin.

Adytum is known as Prospector Town due to its large scavenger population. Many are recent immigrants from the NCR's border territorial gains such as the Frontier, Spire City, the Flooded City or refugees of the Mojave. prospectors and experienced scavengers are encouraged to come and work here by the government which provides them a basic living ration and payment for their services.


You consider:
>Sneak into the local water treatment plant and see how the NCR is getting fresh water
>Apply for temporary hire as a farm aid
>Apply for temporary hire as a scavenger
>Apply for temporary hire as a repair and salvager
>Apply for temporary hire as a mercenary
>Apply for temporary hire as a doctor
>Other? Explore? (feel free to use your imagination this place is big and there is a lot to see and do,not just here but elsewhere)

>>1841660
>Sneak into the local water treatment plant and see how the NCR is getting fresh water
>Apply for temporary hire as a repair and salvager
>Apply for temporary hire as a doctor


Also please respond to >>1841489

>>1841540
Qm, most people voted to shut down the base and reroute power.
>>1841156
>>1841138

>>1841158

Vs
>>1841107
>>1841101

>>1841660
>Sneak into the local water treatment plant and see how the NCR is getting fresh water
>Apply for temporary hire as a repair and salvager

Love the images OP

>>1841621
Anon, governments never know if what they so is good or bad until consequences happen. Its why they make some pretty dumb decisions.

>>1841660
>>Sneak into the local water treatment plant and see how the NCR is getting fresh water

>>1841678
If you take a strategy game (which this is) you understand what your actions do. You cant predict what the ultimate consequences are but you have a short-term understanding of what is going on and what will happen.

We, currently, are in a place where we blindly try to achieve goals we have no idea how to reach (becoming a nation is a good example) and we are up to QMs railroad, not our own ideas (good or bad) on what happens. We have no way to predict our actions, save for trying to divine what QM will do next. This, frankly, is not conducive to long term planning, strategy or transparency of game mechanics.

>>1841551
Here is my propsed list for next turn:
>ACTIONS:
>Hero
- Another date
- Convince more of our populace to debrain / become augmented

>Civ
Create a state bank which can loan SM chips out to individuals and private businesses + add incentive rules to private replication as per this post >>1835908

>Construct 1
Continue work on Brain Vault

>Construct 2
Extend train line to twin mines and add any other required features for automated hexacrete production

>Robotics research
(Not sure here...)

>ZAX research
Cold fusion tech

>Biological research
Viral killing agent (the final missing piece to allow for the creation of our FEV lab)

>Passive production
Assaultron (mass production military model)

>>1841689
We have auto hex. Fromm yhe 100 last turn. You want auto metal gathering in the divide.

>>1841689
I suggest we robotics research the assaultron a bit better before we spread them out. However, I would also suggest we continue on the spiplane arch. We could research a better plane (cheap and disposable)/satellite (in space, this time) and give the passive construction to SPI to start making an intelligence service.

>>1841691
I take it you agree with me then?
>>1841684

>>1841689
I strongly disagree with this list.

>>1841694
Not really. We have a general idea, of have nore cities, that we can work towards. Once we have more cities, then we can probably get a better idea of the finishing touches to become a nation.

Probably include building the capital complex we have plans for, setting up some bureaus of whatever.

>>1841689
You realize we need a POWER PLANT up and running to get the automated mines running right?

>>1841698
And that is exactly my point:
>>1841698
>general idea
>Probably
We actually dont know anything and QM seems reluctant to say anything, leaving us in a place where we, again, have to hope QM gives us something when we jump through his loops, instead of making stretchgoals for ourselves and planning this thing out. And since QM obviously has a grand plan in mind (with how much he has been teasing) it is unfair to the players to keep us in the dark. And I am not talking about plot points but game mechanics and how our wants and desires translate into the system (since he has previously said the system is something he is reluctant to sway from).

>>1841703
You have a very good point.
I'll think this would be the best list for next turn.

>ACTIONS:
>Hero
- Another date

>Civ
Gather metal from the Divide.

>Construct 1
Construct solar farms.

>Construct 2
Construct solar farms

>Robotics research
I dunno.

>ZAX research
Cold fusion tech

>Biological research
Viral killing agent (the final missing piece to allow for the creation of our FEV lab)

>Passive production
Assaultron (mass production military model)

>>1841706
How about

>ACTIONS:
>Hero
- Another date
- Infiltrate NCR lands to gather intel and tech samples (priority is the rad plant)
- Explore Divide base for clues to locatins of interest in the US as well as tech to expect from the NCR/other generals.

>Civ
Gather metal from the Divide.

>Construct 1
Lay groundwork for new and bigger cold fusion reactor in BigMT

>Construct 2
Improve solar farms

>Robotics research
Better assaultron/ bots for SPI to spy.

>ZAX research
Cold fusion tech

>Biological research
Viral killing agent (the final missing piece to allow for the creation of our FEV lab)

>Passive production
SPIs spybots / UAV drones

Changes?

>>1841706
If were developing fusion tech, then we can hold off on making solar power for a turn. Especially since more people actually wanted to divert power from the base.
>>1841676

>>1841709
The Passive production and maybe the 1st construction action are the only things i disagree with.

>>1841710
Not when the vote was called they didn't.

>>1841709
Give ZAX the passive, also you mean finish this date while inflirating correct?

>>1841714
>Give ZAX the passive.
Why? We need Cold fusion researched.

>>1841711
Why? If we dont rush fusion we are stumped with either leeching from the base or pulling back our industry. Either way we will have to build it soon, better do it now.

And the whole reason for the waste that was the "satellite" was to gather intel on our enemy - something we literally dont have.

What are your alternatives?

>>1841714
The vite2 was called after 2 people voted. By the qm's usual wait for 3, that isn't a legitimate result.

>>1841714
Was my assumption yes.

Also what do you mean give it to the ZAX? To get fusion faster? If it really helps a lot ok but I think we get more from the few spybots than from the few construction bots.

>>1841717
You realize it can also use the passive right?

>>1841719
3 people had voted before it was shut down.

>>1841695
Why?

>>1841718
>Why? If we dont rush fusion we are stumped with either leeching from the base or pulling back our industry.
Because i'm not sure if the 1st construction action is a waste of an action or not, i'd clarify with QM first if we can "Lay the groundwork"
>And the whole reason for the waste that was the "satellite" was to gather intel on our enemy - something we literally dont have.
I'd still prefer Assaultrons, planning to take over new Vegas.

>>1841721
>You realize it can also use the passive right?
Ah, sorry i misread.

>>1841725
I believe the Civ and Construction actions can be put to better use.

>>1841660
Sneak treatment plant
hire as repair and salvager

>>1841691
We have the auto mines yes, but QM said before that we need to link the train there before we get passive hexacrete.

>>1841692
Research what about it assaultrons specifically. I'm fine to change it to SPI bots though.

>>1841703
No point building solar, poor return.

We research cold fusion, then build one of those in BigMT once we know the tech.

>>1841721
Qm never closed the vote, but it was 2 people voted no
>>1841101
>>1841107

, the I voted yes
>>1841138

and 2 others voted to support me.
>>1841158
>>1841156

>>1841726
Groundwork as in dig the cave and make the supports, insulate and shield it and build and install the logistics.

As to the passive, as QM has stated, the factory output is small and varied and I dont see it being that useful (as opposed to 2 construction actions). However, a handful of infiltrator bots can be quite handy if used correctly.

>>1841734
>Groundwork as in dig the cave and make the supports, insulate and shield it and build and install the logistics.
I know what Groundwork bloody means, i'm saying we should first clarify with QM if we can do this.

>>1841731
Fail safe. It's better to have surplus energy and worse case just overhaul our small solar to medium

>>1841733
>ignoring time difference between the posts.
Alright senpai. You do you.

>>1841731
Was actually going for free use of stealth and better survivability but better SPI bots is a very good thing. Especially if we get the damned UAV going.

>>1841737
Here are all the comments in order
Votes no
>>1841101
>>1841107
Non-votes
>>1841113
>>1841128
>>1841129
>>1841131
Votes yes
>>1841138
>>1841156
>>1841158
Then qm moved on.

How about this then?

>ACTIONS:
>Hero
- Another date
- Infiltrate NCR lands to gather intel and tech samples (priority is the rad plant)
- Explore Divide base for clues to locatins of interest in the US as well as tech to expect from the NCR/other generals.

>Civ
Gather metal from the Divide.

>Construct 1
Lay groundwork for new and bigger cold fusion reactor in BigMT

>Research
Improve artificial brain/smaller-better computer tech

>Robotics research
Better bots for SPI to spy.

>ZAX research
Cold fusion tech

>Biological research
Viral killing agent (the final missing piece to allow for the creation of our FEV lab)

>Passive production
SPIs spybots / UAV drones

>>1841741
Now you got rid of the Second construction action, you just made the list worse not better.

>>1841741
Look, i'll agree with the Passive production and the 1st construction action if you can confirm with QM that we can Lay groundwork, but we need the new solar farm.

>>1841744
Yes, and if we focus on cold fusion we can get it up before we build further large industry. What would you change then?

>>1841741

You have a research and a robo research. Have to ammend that. Replace the research with a second construction.

>>1841747
Here.

>ACTIONS:
>Hero
- Another date
- Infiltrate NCR lands to gather intel and tech samples (priority is the rad plant)
- Explore Divide base for clues to locatins of interest in the US as well as tech to expect from the NCR/other generals.

>Civ
Gather metal from the Divide.

>Construct 1
Lay groundwork for new and bigger cold fusion reactor in BigMT(Confirm with QM this won't be a wasted action.)

>Construct 2
Improve/Build solar farms.

>Robotics research
Better assaultron/ bots for SPI to spy.

>ZAX research
Cold fusion tech

>Biological research
Viral killing agent (the final missing piece to allow for the creation of our FEV lab)

>Passive production
SPIs spybots / UAV drones

>>1841745
If we can get the other reactor up I am fine with leeching off the base for a few turns (as long as basic defence is up so its not abandoned).

Besides, we arent building large industry this turn.

>>1841753
>(as long as basic defence is up so its not abandoned).
What do you mean exacly? Leeching of the base causes the defenses to disable.

>>1841749
As per QM, we have +ZAX +Bio and +Robo research. On top of that we can do a regular research action.

>>1840970
>4 Action Cap.
>Available Actions: (1)Civilian, (2)Construction, (1)Military, (1)Research, (1)Hero
>+Robotic Research does not count toward cap.
>+Biological Research does not count toward cap
>+ZAX Action does not count toward cap

>>1841752
Were doing a lot of spying with dandan now, so it might be redundant to do more next turn.

>>1841757
>Were doing a lot of spying with dandan now, so it might be redundant to do more next turn.
I agree.

>>1841755
I mean we dont have to have every EMP missile, turrent and artillery gun online. Leave a skeleton crew, so to speak and secure with our robots.

Thus, we can get the power we need for now, IF we need it and we can pour all our focus on getting the fusion reactor onlie to clear our power troubles for a while.

>>1841757
>>1841758
This is not for "next turn" but a passive force we spread out over the area so we wont have to spend actions in the future to learn what our enemies are doing.

>>1841760
Quick question, how would we avoid being detected when the NCR has the same spying tech as us?

>>1841763
Being smarter about it. They have them at our borders so we have them smuggled inland. We ask SPI on how to outplay or out-tech them. If anything, We should be able to do this.

>>1841759
Thats the current winning vite when it comes to rerouting the bases power. Do so, bit station a robo garrison to keep it secure.

>>1841765
>Being smarter about it. They have them at our borders so we have them smuggled inland. We ask SPI on how to outplay or out-tech them. If anything, We should be able to do this.
I am not confident of that working.

>>1841768
How so? Keep i mind they couldnt detect our stealthed units and the bots dont have to be UAVs if it is not appropriate at this point. Is SPI says there is a better way we do that.

>>1841769
>Keep i mind they couldnt detect our stealthed units
They can, they have the same tech as us.

>>1841772
They detected our regular bots (the flyers) but couldnt spot the stealthed one.

>>1841774
>They detected our regular bots (the flyers) but couldnt spot the stealthed one.
Can you confirm this?

Phone post

Before blending in, you decide to see exactly how the NCR is getting fresh water. You and Dandan gaze upon a large concrete structure, of new world build, with pipes connecting to the Old World Aqueduct. The Aqueduct is lined on both sides with large, green vines and being tended to by robots, ghouls, or people in radiation suits who seem to be picking things from the vines.

Up in the air, peering with binoculars your incredible and unmatched perception noticed the ripple of an invisible spy drone in the sky, though there may be more. You and Dandan used a tuneller to sneak under the NCRs borders to avoid this risk.

>observe the pattern of the drone and try to sneak closer to the aqueduct
>observe the pattern of the drone and try to sneak through the surface door
>Hide in the water! Spy on the vine collectors
>find a sewer or tunnel to go into the water plant

>>1841798
>Hide in the water! Spy on the vine collectors

>>1841808
+1

>>1841676
There should also be my vote somewhere. I don't think I directly linked it

>>1841798
We should steal some of those vines while we are at it

>>1841808
This so we can get on with shit.

>>1841808
Support.

Also a realisation that came to me when I read OP's description of the cold fusion reactor: if we get a lunar colony, we can sift the regolith for it's (relative to earth) high content of Helium 3. An extremely (again, relative) reactive fusion fuel without any input cost. Admittedly this hinges on us getting a decent space program running but I feel once we've taken over the Legion this becomes a far more realistic prospect especially if we continue to develop technologically like we have.

I admit this is a very, very long term plan but the fact is that a lunar colony is a thing I have advised in past and continue to do so since few of our current threats could even conceive of following us there and the region is unexploited in terms of resources.


More short term, this makes expansion into NV and towards large rivers (like the one for the Hoover dam) all the more important and useful. Main point, we really need to capitalise on what this technology represents: we can turn one of the most common and light elements (hydrogen) into power in good amounts which makes our future far easier. Since it makes the powering of a rock-to-robot factory far easier.


Also another point: we must prepare to push into the Legion as the MLA and NCR bloody each other's noses. As that will prevent them interfering while allowing to strike before the Legion can recover or the other factions intervening. Once we've secured that region up to the river and have the nuclear reactors of the region under our command, we can construct a replication facility to turn the entire Legion city into war robots and other shit we need. Until we've turned the entire region into a modern technological industrial center to support the war effort. For this to work, I feel we must construct a few drone tending TACTs, debrain all of our soldiers and as many Assaultrons as possible.

Once the region is secured we can focus on a period of internal development: automating factories, constructing new industrial facilities / mines and pacifying the Legion population as needed. I would suggest beginning a mass recruiting program. In Montana, in the NCR (if we still have a border) and by purchasing slaves in the MLA.

Speaking of which, we should see about getting as many slaves as we can from the MLA to enable us to achieve nation-state status quicker and to enable a larger amount of TACTs / researchers.

>>1841798
>Hide in the water! Spy on the vine collectors

>>1841885
Sorry busy today going to try to get more turns in tonight

>>1842182
No bother man. Take your time.

Have you ever considered adopting Genie's system in this regard? He'd give boons for missing sessions and shit if I remember rightly but to be fair my memory is pretty shitty and the last time I remember seeing the system described / mentioned was back on /tg/.

>>1842193
I don't do sessions anon, I update when I can and as often as I can.

>>1842208
I know but occasionally you drop off for half a day because you fall asleep during the middle of posting and we all stay up waiting for you to continue.

Still, just a question.

QM, two quick questions:
- Given that we have auto mines and a railroad at 'Twin Mines', are we receiving passive hexacrete deliveries? If not, how can we?
- Given that we have a railroad link to the Divide, how can we receive passive scrap/fissile deliveres?

>>1842382
>- Given that we have auto mines and a railroad at 'Twin Mines', are we receiving passive hexacrete deliveries? If not, how can we?
We would be but we need more power. Solutions to this are in effect such as the use of the Divide military base cold fusion reactor but I imagine if we want to study it we will need to disassemble it.

>- Given that we have a railroad link to the Divide, how can we receive passive scrap/fissile deliveres?
We'd need either teams of salvaging people or robots along with a depot in the Divide which the outpost could suffice as.

>>1841994
You take your Radx and Dandan takes a double dose.

According to Doc Henry and Dr. Bradley (proper now, in his mutant body), if these Chinese are "prime humans" it would be prudent for them to take Radx much more often, as the Enclave did to maintain their pure genes. The longer the exposure to the outside world the more at risk they are for FEV mutation or deviance from pure genes. The Devils brigade have long since fallen off that quest, but you wonder about the chinese. They have tried to protect themselves with rad suits and your new exoarmor, but Dandan and the factory workers especially have been in the outside for very long. Thankfully she has the implant that help ward against radiation, as you both don on rebreathers.

You consider developing a test for that, it may be prudent for future FEV research.

I'm any case the water here is radioactive, but surprisingly not a lot. From your older travels you remember that lake Owens glowed green and was fatally toxic but this water is not like that. The water and thick green vines that swallow and choke the flow make excellent cover.

While invisible both of you observe the cleanup crews up close. They are very carefully plucking green glowing pods growing from flowers on the vine. Their skin reminds you a bit of glowing feral ghouls or other glowing animals like that irradiated bot fly that nearly killed you, and your Geiger counters tick tick tick in their direction.

The crew seem very tense, carefully grabbing the pods with long tongs or robot hands, and holding thick lead containers under them. These are loaded onto armored trucks.

>avoid the teams and Sneak on into the facility
>Try to steal some of the containers, as well as vine samples
>capture and interrogate some of the cleanup crew
>other?

>>1842743
>avoid the teams and Sneak on into the facility
>However if possible stash some containers and vein samples for later or in our suits.

>>1842751
subborting.

>>1842751
Support

>>1842751
Easy action, gimme 3 1d100s

Rolled 29 (1d100)

>>1842853
>easy
>here comes dat nat 1

Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>1842853
Nat 100

Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>1842853

I believe in love after life.

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>>1842751
Waiting for the right moment not to be seen by the Drone, no easy task even for the both of you with your skils, you just barely manage to get it right up to the truck to snag some containers. Thankfully you arent in the heat of combat and are the best of the best.

You prudently decide to hold these as well as the vine samples on yourself, not just because you are stronger but also to keep any radiation near you instead of dandan.

---

>Ghoul
"Oh shit, we're missing some containers."

>Soldier 1
"Shhh! Do you want the goddamn robot to hear you? Shut the fuck up, if the Commissar gets word of this we'll be shot!"

>Ghoul
"AS I WAS SAYING, I AM REARRANGING THESE CONTAINERS TO BE MORE SPACE EFFICIENT. THANKFULLY THEY ARE ALL HERE."

>con't

>>1842898
>commissar
We in the Imperium of California now.

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>>1842898
Purifying water en masse, such as cleansing an entire river of pollutants and muck, was something either the ancients could not do or did not consider a need to do. The largest known purifiers in the known wasteland were able to feed an entire Vaults of upwards to 1000 or so. Most vaults were much smaller, such as Vault City which started with scarcely less than 100 when they opened their door.

There is an inherent difficulty in this. For some reason cleaning water is very very hard and expensive. Even the ZAX predicted that with current known technologies it seemed "very unlikely" that any single facility could be designed to clear a whole river at once.

As you enter the facility through underground tunnels, bypassing guards and robots alike, you notice how the NCR seems to have bypassed this.

Hacking into the computers and observing the designs, the technology here are clearly Vault-Tec in origin, you wager either studied from Vault City or some other Vault. The mechanical principles are the same, but the technology is different. The computers here are very crude and large, using vaccuum tubes rather than electronic chips (though this does make them less prone to EMP damage). Similarly the machinery itself is rather crude and bulky, unlike the brilliant compactness of old world Vault Tec or your own.

But if it can be said these machines are 1/10 of the efficient of the Vault Purifiers, then the NCR simply decided to build them 10 time as large. What they lack in an ounce of highly refined tech, the NCR made up for in a tonne of brute force.

You learn that this is but one such facility out of dozens, maybe even hundreds, spread out along the NCRs various rivers, with this facility alone being one of many along the aqueduct. It can only purify so much water at a time, and not even nearly enough to feed the city by itself, but is connected by pipes to other facilities exactly like this one, each one contributing fresh water that adds up to a large amount.

This feels exactly like the ZAX predicted the system would work, though you can tell with your technological prowess you could do them much more efficiently.

The real main difference is that the NCR seem to have a massive amount of Old World water purifier chips. These they use to run the entire facility automatically with very minimal robot or human maintenance. This large building right here is run entirely from one chip alone. You wonder where they got so many.

>>1842898
>>1842918
This partly explains how the NCR managed to get so fascist so quickly.

Going to the east coast sounds more and more appealing

>>1842961
There actually isn't much new technology here you don't already know. The NCR doesn't appear to be using miracle tech, here at least, but simply more of what they are able to reach.

>Go back to the main populace, lets try that (Scavenger, Doctor, Mercenary, Repairman, Factory Worker, Construction, Other) job offering
>Other (Do something here?)

Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>1842961
Can we find a chip around the area somewhere?

>>1842990
>Go back to the main populace, lets try that (Scavenger, Doctor, Mercenary, Repairman, Factory Worker, Construction, Other) job offering

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>>1842992
You manage to find the central processing unit which surely does house the water chip. You can see it from here, however it is guarded by both robots and living human guards who haven't spotted you yet, as well as what appears to be some sort of laser protection. Guess this is the part they really don't want anyone to touch.

The robots appear to be reprogrammed OW Assaultrons with laser arms and modified Sentry-Bots with two Gatling lasers on each arm, as well as soldiers in OW American Exoarmor with very good laser weapons. You feel you can beat them, especially with Dandan at your side, but this would be a very messy fight and Dandan could get hurt. The chip might also be destroyed in the process, but from this distance it doesn't look like more than an old world Vault Water Chip that you'v seen before. The BoS Midwest sold you a design for them.

>>1842990
>Go back to the main populace, Let's try Doctor.

>>1843029
>>1841664
2 for doctor
>>1841677
1 for repair/salvage

Anyone else?

>>1843090
Doctor, why not

>>1843090
Salvage.

>>1843090
>Doctor

>>1843090
repair/salvage

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You decide to apply yourself as a Doctor, with Dandan as your humble wife and aid.

You do of course, investigate the local medical business. You remember that historically Followers of the Apocalypse were for many years the primary accrediting body of NCR medical professionals, until the rise of the Office of Science and Industry. Asking around you find they have all but supplanted the Followers almost entirely, "nationalizing" their centers of research, medical centers, and more; members were told to either sign up with the OSI, or get out.

The Followers are all but gone these days, with NCR accredited doctors having replaced them. Though they are still here, a shadow of their former self, working from small clinics now though always under scrutiny. It would seem that certain Followers of the Apocalypse were very vocal against the policies of the new regime, and some prominent members have vanished without a trace.

The NCR is encouraging more and more people to go to hospitals and government clinics rather than freelance doctors, claiming to be safer, more professionally trained, and affordable for the masses. With more money in peoples hands, there are less freelance doctors out there and it doesn't help the NCR puts some hard restrictions on them.

>Work for an NCR government hospital
>Work for an NCR local clinic
>Try to work as a freelance doctor
>Look for another freelance doctor to pair up with
>Other?

>>1843133

>Work for an NCR government hospital

>>1843133
>Look for another freelance doctor to pair up with