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>>2017168
>Friendly Approach
You step on out into the light, dressed in your Power Armor. You could have chosen the suit, but you felt this tends to have a better response.

>Security Guard
"HALT"

Several security guards and human robots walk up to you, some riding little cart things.

You see that a few of them have Power Armor, but the rest mostly have Exo/Combat Armor but very advanced and clearly Old World, though not of any government model for sure. Their weapons likewise are also non-standard, all shiny and black or very well designed.

>Security Guard
"Identify yourself!"

>You
[A Courier from the Mainland Commonwealth]

>Security Guard 1
"Yeah, right. Like we would believe that"

>Security Guard 2
"Hold on a moment. Look at his model. Enclave armor. You just don't get those anymore. And he's walking in it, he's clearly trained."

>Security Guard 1
"What is your purpose here?"

>You
[I've come to speak to your leaders, I have an important message to bring to them]

The security guards chat among themselves, then call in something on a radio. You notice multiple camera's observing you, as well as drones. After a short wait, they respond.

>Security Guard 1
"Alright pal. We'll escort you there. Don't. Try. Anything. I don't care if you're in Armor or the bloody Enclave, you try anything shifty and we'll turn you into Swiss."

>You
(What's a swiss. . .)

>con't

>>2017234
I'd like to get a pair of those exo armor suits that's for sure

Okay so these guys are related to the Enclave for certain.

>>2017260
Looks to be it. If we have ever wanted to get the Enclave into into our nation, this would be it.

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>>2017234
You are escorted by armed guards, as you pass by. . .what might be the most fanciest place you've ever seen. It's a bit like a mix of the Ultra Luxe, the Nursery, and New Reno put together. Only much MUCH more well decorated and with plenty of water and greenery.

The houses here are nothing short of mansions. Each and every one. The people that you see riding about in cars, carts or scooters are all in great physical shape, smooth skin, nice muscles, and no blemishes. The air itself smells fresh and pretty.

There are more service robots here than even at BigMT, Mr. Handy's and humanoid robots everywhere trimming hedges, planting flowers, sweeping streets.

In contrast there are also a lot of human laborers. You can tell the difference in that, where some of the populace are wearing very fancy outfits, these are wearing very low quality outfits. They aren't unclean or ragged by any means, but very clearly designated as workers including a visible number tag. Many them even have collars. Rather well off as slaves to be honest, kind of like Vault City. Probably domestic slaves by the look of it.

>con't

>>2017275
Hmm...clearly they could afford to have robots do their labour entirely...so are the human labourers a status symbol or because of population growth without the ability to replace or create more robots? So much to consider and so little time to develop theories...

>>2017260
Eden, President John Henry Eden.
It's all there, You just have to look.

>>2017291
I suppose but I just presumed it had to do with the entire place being so...nice.

>>2017305
You would think that, but what do you think is more likely, that whoever is in charge named this veritable paradise after a very fitting biblical reference, or somehow, a ZAX located on the East Coast survived getting blown up, and a subsequent move and installation on the other side of the continent?

Follow the breadcrumbs.

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>>2017275
Eventually you are brought to a tall structure. A skyscraper, only sleek, shiny and intact! It glimmers in the sun, even after 200 years. You see people working on platforms held by ropes as well as drones wiping the windows.

---

The inside reminds you of the NCR's Hotel or the Vegas Casino's, only . . .cleaner to be honest, and sleek. As though time had no effect here.

>Woman
"Welcome to Eden. My name is Secretary Steele. I'm here on behalf of the Board and Chief Executive Officer Selmy who are not able to be here today.

I'm told you are a messenger from the United States Government. We have not had any contact with you in almost 200 years.

Do you have any authentication of your identity?"

>What do

>>2017353
What was the name of that one Enclave scientist guy who could legitimize our claim as a successor of the Enclave?

>>2017368
Dr Bradley. Technically speaking he's the highest ranking officer left alive from the Enclave Oil Rig.

Although he's a Super Mutant right now.

>>2017368
Would they even know who he is if they haven't been in contact for 200years?

>>2017368
Name dropping him probably won't work. These people seem to have no contact with the Enclave as we know it.

>>2017353
My credentials were located on my assigned Eyebot, designation Eyebot Duraframe Subject E. If you had located it, allowing me access to it would allow me to retrieve my credentials.

>>2017353
[Lady Killer: What about my very large and impressive penis?]

What about

"I am a messenger from the Mainland, one of the only ones to make it, apparently. I am here by order of Dr. Bradley, the acting president of the Enclave. While that name doesn't mean anything, no other name would either, would it? There is a large storm acting as a shield for the island, so no communications was able to be had, so we had to send people here the hard way.

My credentials were located on my assigned Eyebot, designation Eyebot Duraframe Subject E. If you had located it, allowing me access to it would allow me to retrieve my credentials. Otherwise, you can ask and I can answer, hopefully.

>>2017353
>>2017373
Alright, what kind of verification codes did we get from Krieger again?
>>2017376
>>2017381
But the Guards recognized our Enclave armor, suggesting they had met the Enclave back when it was operational, so they should know important personnel and leaders of the old enclave.

>>2017373
Qm we arent in contact with our brain atm are we?

>>2017381
Eh, Ill support this.

>>2017386
>I am here by order of Dr. Bradley, the acting president of the Enclave.
I don't think we should do this.

>>2017387
I don't think Identifying ourselves as a vertibird will help.

And the lady did just say that they had no contact with the US for 200 years.

>>2017393
I don't see why not. Dropping any name at all wouldn't work. so might as well throw out the only name we know

>>2017404
>I don't think Identifying ourselves as a vertibird will help.
Drat, i was hoping we got some verification codes that were higher than that.

>>2017414
I was talking more about lying that Dr. Bradley was the president, which i don't think we need to do when we can just have him verify we're the Enclave once we fix our Pipboy.

>>2017349
I suppose.

>>2017353
"You mean ignoring the fact that I am wearing Enclave power armour? Or the fact that I'm not a tribal? I offer the knowledge of control station ENCLAVE being an offshore oil rig, the last active one in the entire world pre-war.

I'd offer to let you communicate with my superior's but currently that is impossible thanks to damage my equipment I received during arrival. Although if I am supplied with electronics to effect repairs, I will be able to find my craft and restore long range communications."

Good?


>>2017368
They haven't talked to the Enclave in 200 years. That wouldn't help.

>>2017424
This is a bit better.

>>2017423
It's one of those things where it wouldn't really help, nor hurt. Also would it really be lying that he's acting president?

>>2017436
>Also would it really be lying that he's acting president?
Yea kinda, he's not in any leadership position except maybe a scientist under our government.

>>2017424
>They haven't talked to the Enclave in 200 years. That wouldn't help.
Yes it would god dammit, why has everyone forgotten the dialogue in >>2017234 ?

>>2017452
So your logic that because they recognise Enclave PA, something that has remained more or less standard since the pre-war days, they'd know about the medical officer who only gained control long after they'd lost communications?

>>2017424
Seems decent.

>>2017452
Those are robots anon, its just as likely that they recognize enclave symbols from pre war as it is that they may have interacted with enclave since then.

>>2017353
Take off the impassive and imposing helmet to give a more human feeling to the interaction.

“Hello, my name is Six. I am currently acting president of the fractured United States.”

Our pip boy supports this assertion if i recall correctly.

“Californian separatists are en route to these islands. Their general intends to force the entire population into his expansionist schemes. Those who will not work for him he will imprison in internment camps.”

Gesture to any office furniture

“If we can be seated I can outline how we can prevent your people from loss of their God given Liberty.”

>>2017460
pipboy's still broken i think.

>>2017442
But by the Enclave's succession system, he is technically in charge. While he has no power at all, he still should be president.

Just need a vote of three. I'll adapt your response to something more fitting if need be based upon the intent rather than the literal wording.

>>2017455
>So your logic that because they recognise Enclave PA, something that has remained more or less standard since the pre-war days
Except that Enclave PA was made after the bombs fell you idiot.
>"Hold on a moment. Look at his model. Enclave armor. You just don't get those anymore. And he's walking in it, he's clearly trained."
>>2017457
Oh my Christ you actually have.
>Several security guards and human robots walk up to you, some riding little cart things.

>>2017475
And that doesn't change my main point: how in the fuck does name dropping someone they've never heard of work to convince them?

>>2017481
Because they should know his name cause he was very important Enclave personnel.

>>2017424
Your speech is a bit too confrontational and condescending.

>>2017487
But they don't know people in the enclave.
Unless they think the US government and the Enclave are two different things, they have had no contact for 200 years.

Or someone is lying, and now would be a time to call them out.

>>2017487
>"They'll totally know this guy, he's super important and thus they'll instantly know him." (Even though he wasn't in that position of power, let alone alive, at that the time they could've found out...)


That is the entirety of your logic.

>>2017475
I mean, X-01 Power armor was finished before the bombs fell according to F4 lore which is what the Advanced Enclave Power Armour is based off of / improves upon which was created after the wars as you've stated.

Might as well name drop, it does as little harm as it does good.

Perhaps the enclave has a destroyed base on the island? Maybe something they would have seen? Might be worth looking into after this base fiasco.

>>2017494
>But they don't know people in the enclave.
They should at least know very important personnel, like Dr. Bradley who if i recall correctly was like Chief scientist or something.
>Unless they think the US government and the Enclave are two different things, they have had no contact for 200 years.
They did, they recognized Enclave PA which means they were contacted by the Enclave AFTER the war.
And trust me, there's no way they can confuse old world PA and Enclave PA seeing as Enclave PA was made after the bombs fell.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Enclave_power_armor
>The armor was created by the Enclave's skilled team of engineers and scientists after the Great War, as a result of a research program initiated in 2198,

>>2017519
But if they haven't had contact, and Bradley isn't pre-war, then they would have no idea.

I do agree with the power armor point though

>>2017519
Yes, but she just said they had no contact for 200 years, so either she is lying, or they won't know about the Enclave and their chain of command.

>>2017460
Supporting this approach.

Californian separatists have rendered serious damage onto the old Enclave.

I lead the successor state, the Phoenix Commonwealth of America.

The last President of the US according to the order of succession, has confirmed my leadership.

>>2017531
>But if they haven't had contact, and Bradley isn't pre-war, then they would have no idea.
But the Power armor point does support that they did have contact, however i admit i can no longer be sure they havve after learning about F4 X-01 lore from >>2017508

>>2017534
Aw shit i can't believe that bit slipped my mind.

>>2017538
I'd support it with this add on. While we did just say we were a courier, I am sure we could explain how we have many roles.

>>2017547
>>2017547
Well the power armor look didn't change much, and if they saw the Enclave symbol on the armor, then it would just be a logical conclusion

>>2017534
Just because the enclave hasn’t stopped by and said hello doesn’t mean they haven’t found enclave equipment washed up from the mega storm

>>2017560
True. They probably think the Enclave is just another post war faction. Pick up flotsam with X-01 armour labeled Enclave and things line up.

But that means >>2017538
won't mean anything to them, and the more we have to explain the less likely they would be to believe us.

Could we all just agree on this:

"I offer the knowledge of control station ENCLAVE being an offshore oil rig, the last active one in the entire world pre-war.

I'd offer to let you communicate with my superior's but currently that is impossible thanks to damage my equipment I received during arrival. Although if I am supplied with electronics to effect repairs, I will be able to find my craft and restore long range communications."

>>2017622
I'll support it.

>>2017622
Put in something about ED-E If they have him, best we stake our claim in him before they dismantle him or something

>>2017622
We don't have superiors...

We should really provide them with the truth - we run an Enclave successor state and the NCR separatists are coming for them.

This way we can verify what we say - while bringing them up to speed on events on the mainland (if tinted our way)

>>2017634
It's just the fact that I doubt we can convince them we are the head of a successor state. Easier to convince them we are a special agent than a president.

>>2017643
I agree. I doubt they expect Heads of state to actually go out for things like this.

>>2017643
Which will make convincing them hard later - as we've lied to them now.

We can recite all history for the past 100 years on the mainland, and say that once our communications are fixed we can put them in touch with the former Enclave President to back up our claims of being a successor state.

>>2017622
Dude, we don’t have superiors, like at all.

And they likely don’t know jack shit about the oil rig.

AND it’s still semi-confrontational

>>2017643
>>2017647
I agree for the most part, however when they realize we lied to them then it's going to be even harder to get their help, or for them to even be kind to us

>>2017460
>Take off the impassive and imposing helmet to give a more human feeling to the interaction.
>“Hello, my name is Six. I am currently acting president of the fractured United States. Californian separatists are en route to these islands using stolen Enclave IFF codes to avoid the storm. Their general intends to force the entire population into their fascist, expansionist schemes. Those who will not work for them are imprisoned in internment camps.”
>Gesture to any office furniture
>“If we can be seated I can outline how we can prevent your people from loss of their God given Liberty, and your reintegration into America the beautiful."

This is literally perfect, do this.

If they need proof, ask them to repair our pipboy and then we can contact our people.

Wait a fuck

These guys don’t have a horse in this race. Like at all.

All we really need to do is convince them to help us get back on our feet. Once we restore coms we can handle the rest without them (maybe)

>>2017656
>Which will make convincing them hard later - as we've lied to them now.
Seeing as a fair few of us seemingly want to completely take over their government I'm fine with that.

>We can recite all history for the past 100 years on the mainland, and say that once our communications are fixed we can put them in touch with the former Enclave President to back up our claims of being a successor state.
Fine I'll write something new up.

>>2017658
>Dude, we don’t have superiors, like at all.
Dude, presidents don't go on expeditions to dangerous places and shit, like at all.

>And they likely don’t know jack shit about the oil rig.
That I find unlikely.

>AND it’s still semi-confrontational
Like hell it is. That is literally as non-confrontational as I can do.

>>2017678
>Dude, presidents don't go on expeditions to dangerous places and shit, like at all.
What about you?

>>2017697
We are the Courier, the exception to the rule.

>>2017697
We'll that's why we're the best

>>2017701
What about Yaunker?

>>2017678
>>Dude, we don’t have superiors, like at all.
Dude, presidents don't go on expeditions to dangerous places and shit, like at all.

Alot of US ones disagree

>>2017697
We feel the need to reconnect with the American people. A modern day Johnny Appleseed spreading the fruit of Safety and Freedom.

>>2017708
It's not the norm these people would be accepting of.

>>2017718
>Johnny Appleseed
We really need to make a propaganda department and have them start publishing stories of us.

>>2017723
Who are you referring to?

>>2017731
Any Presidents going around, leading from the front. Us and Yaunker are pretty much to only ones who do so.
Imagine if some guy shows up at your door and says he's the governor of Kentucky. You wouldn't believe him. Governors don't do that.

>>2017750
What about Andrew Jackson? Didn't he offer god damn cheese to his neighbors?

>>2017764
Yeah, Ol' Hickory was one of a kind. Revolutionary War, War of 1812, kicking the Injuns out, etc...

>>2017764
He was given a cheese, and invited the people of the capital to take some, but that isn't really the same as going around alone on dangerous missions.

>>2017775
Our historical records CLEARLY show presidents of all eras standing amidst numerous tragedies from hurricanes to destroyed war zones.

>>2017795
Teddy Roosevelt was quite active and hunted. While it is very hard for a president to do these things safely, they try

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>>2017795
Truly they were made of sterner stuff than modern men.

My main point is that I doubt they'd believe the random grunt of the Enclave is the president but if you all want to give it a shot I won't oppose it.

are we still at an impass?

>>2017795
In the aftermaths of tragedies on their home soil- not going of into the unknown alone, with no body guards or anything.

>>2017813
If they don't we could just punch a wall again.

>>2017816
I think the "general" agreement is >>2017538
>>2017460

>>2017830
There is plenty of contention about identifying ourselves as a faction leader or just an agent.

>>2017851
Is that what it boiled down to? Either being an agent or the president? I could agree to being some "agent" of the Commonwealth, because even when we reveal our true role, they will probably understand

>>2017858
Essentially. One side argues that lying about our importance / role will foster distrust whereas the other side believes that the Eden-folk wouldn't believe we are the president.

>>2017538
>>2017460

Fuck it then, Ill support this if it will let us move on.

OP are you still there?

Back,

>>2017460
Writing

>>2018004
Does it really take you a hour to update or it is finding a suitable picture?

i had to sit back and think exactly. . .how you would say this and what the appropriate response would be.


>>2017460
She pauses noticeably. Staring you up and down, as if she's not entirely sure what to say.

". . .

I'm going to try and entertain what you just said. Because with all that armor and weapons, I really, sincerely, would prefer it that you are not insane.

I'd like to see some form of proof as to why the President of the Enclave decided to show up, alone, in front of our gate. And some form of proof that you are who you say you are."

>You
[My craft was badly damaged on the way here, I may be the only survivor. I'd need to repair my communication device, then I'll be able to transmit proof from the mainland.]

She furrows her brow for a bit.

". . .Alright then."

She starts tapping at her holograhic noteboard

>con't

>>2018235
Also, Did you happen to find an Eyebot, Eyebot duraframe subject E, and a grumpy bald man named Riddick? We were separated in transit.

>>2018173
Sometimes it is finding a picture actually. This time I got pulled away.

>>2018235
You get your parts.

And more security. A lot more security. With energy fields.

You repair your Pip-Boy and detect several things: the location of your crashed UFO, access to Diana's Satellite and Contact with BigMT.

>You
[This is Six to Big Mountain. Come in General Kreger]

>Kreger
"We're recieving you Sir"

>Steele
"You have a Vault Tec pip boy, that could be a recording or an AI program speaking."

>Kreger
"Ma'am I assure you this is no recording or AI. I am General Judah Kreger, United States Army, Serial Number 243-42-8443"

>Steele
"We're not the Army, we don't have a way to verify that. We were told by a representative from General Alexandra in 2079 to wait until an all clear signal was given on the secure lines."

[BONUS ACTIVATED]

>Dr Bradley
"This is Dr. Bradley (his brain by the sound of it). I'm currently chief-"

>Dr Klein
*cough*

>Dr Bradley
"of Enclave Operations. The universal All Clear Code in the absence of the Automated System is Foxtrot Alpha Delta Echo Oscar Uniform Tango"

>Steele
"Oh. . .alright. Please wait here a minute."

You're left alone for a while, the various guards surrounding you from all sides.

>con't

>>2018306
>Foxtrot Alpha Delta Echo Oscar Uniform Tango
Fadeout, I like it OP

That Dr. Bradley he such a gift and we have that nat 100 to thank

>>2018306
Bradley saves the fucking day.

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>>2018306
After a while, Steele Comes back.

>Steele
"Security stand down.

Allow me to personally apologize for the delay, we've confirmed the All Clear code.

On behalf of the Board, welcome to Eden . .Mr. President."

---

You find yourself in a luxurious room while the Board of Directors is preparing an emergency meeting.

No Alexa, but this is a very high class room with some technologies you definitely intend to bring home. Colored TV, TV with actual colors! A microwave machine that cooks food without destroying it! A telephone, that you can pick up and doesn't have to be plugged into the wall!

The technology here is ahead of its time.

In addition you have a complement of servants, maids, and butlers at your wait and call.

>What Do?

>>2018331
Have you people found an eyebot and a bald man?

>>2018331
>>2018337
May i also sample local cuisine and ask why you still have human laborers despite the robots?

>>2018337
"We confirmed sighting of smoke coming from the coordinates described in your Pip-Boy, as well as camera recordings showing a smoking hulk flying through the air.

I'm sorry sir but the craft appears to have crashed deep into criminal territory. We're assembling a response force but it will take time."

>>2018331
>Mr. Preident
AH SHIT

Ask for a history lesson from one of the servants.

>>2018353
What do you mean by criminal?

>>2018353
>I'm sorry sir but the craft appears to have crashed deep into criminal territory. We're assembling a response force but it will take time.
Would that be the Tribals i've encountered? If so please withhold that response force and explain who they are and what their history is.

>>2018331
>On behalf of the Board, welcome to Eden . .Mr. President."
Fuck yes!

Honest approach wins the day (plus Bradley)

>>2018363
Fuck the tribals, fuck all of that - it can wait.

We need a way to isolate and turn off the Enclave IFF signal that the NCR are using ASAP - that way, the storm will destroy them.

>>2018353
I don't suppose that Riddick has a way to communicate similar to our pipboy?

>>2018378
>We need a way to isolate and turn off the Enclave IFF signal that the NCR are using ASAP - that way, the storm will destroy them.
It's already off, but i agree the only way to keep them out would be to take control of Hawaii and that storm maker.

>>2018378
We can just move the Iowa's signature from the friend list to the foe list.

>>2018349
"Robots are quite costly, and there are limits to how closely they can mimic certain human functions."

>>2018358
>>2018363
"Criminals sir. Murderers, Thieves, as well as Contract Violators. They imagine themselves some tribe based on their ancestry and the villages of Hawaii'ns that lived here centuries ago.

Their ancestors signed contracts for themselves and their families as indentured servants, as continuing payment for the privelege of living on Eden in the event of nuclear war. Many of them attempted to break their contract and received fines, further increasing their indentured debt. I'm sure by now anyone we recapture from out there would take dozens of generations just to pay off their own debt with interest for lost time. Our Security is always on alert for them."

>>2018387
>"Robots are quite costly, and there are limits to how closely they can mimic certain human functions."
They would still be superior, however if the problem is cost i could fix that. And perhaps the other thing too if it's what i think you're insinuating.

>>2018387
Also, how are you managing to keep such a wonderful place running? Where do you get the resources for repairs and maintenance?

>>2018394
*cough* "You'd need to speak with the Board of Directors on that account Mr. President."

Might pass out soon, if there are things you want to ask these people or general goals you want to carry out go ahead and list them.

>>2018397
"We are quite well stockpiled and have the infrastructure to produce and repair parts from scrap metal, though we recycle as often as we can. This is also partly why prefer human labour, as it conserves on metal while it's much easier to get more humans. They did sign a contract indicating a compliance with familial quota's as well."

>>2018398
Does the Board of director have any control over the massive storm to the East? any system that would recieve IFF data, and enable access to the island?

>>2018408
*more servants

>>2018408
"Well then, i can definitely fix that resource problem of yours."

>>2018398
One of the first goals is to stop the NCR from landing, then setting permanent communication with our home base, getting the teleporter up and finding the UFO and finding Riddick.

Then we'll have to bridge the gap between the tribals and Eden, by either wiping them out finally or allying them with us.

>>2018414
>by either wiping them out
I strongly recommend we don't do this, it'll be bad if our Citizens hear of it.

>>2018409
"No sir. As far as any of us are aware, the storm is being generated by the military Pearl Habor. My grandmother was there when the Chinese tried to invade, their ships crashed on the rocks while their planes were blown away. It is what has protected us from the dangers of the outside world.

Are you not aware of this as Commander in Chief?"

>>2018416
I'm just putting the options out there anon. We don't know the whole story yet. These could be some fucked up people

>>2018417
After the war, many documents and much information was lost, so it has been my main goal of reconnecting with every loyal American I can and recovering what we lost.

>>2018417
>Are you not aware of this as Commander in Chief
"Unfortunately not, i had my assumptions but due to events in these 200 years great amounts of military intel was lost."

>>2018417
Seeing as how I am unaware of the authority and reaches of the Board, I wished to verify whether or not they do have access to Pearl Harbour or not.

>>2018422
True enough.

>>2018417
Qm question - with their Ideal lifestyle, do these people seem to fit the pure human/non fev affected criteria?

>>2018435
Your pip-boy interestingly note's little radiation and people here take their daily doses of Rad-X. You can't be sure without strict genetic testing, but it stands to reason these people may not be FEV infected.

>>2018422
this seems solid

>>2018422
"I suppose it is understandable your craft would have been damaged on the way here through the storm."

>>2018426
"Nobody has left the island for 200 years. Or entered it as far as we know, until you Sir. The Storm has surrounded us and shielded us.

We were awaiting the all clear and for a fleet to inform us that America had been rebuilt"

>>2018467
That's a work in progress. However An rebel state has gained access codes to get past the storm. We need to go to Pearl Harbour and strike them off the Friendly list so they do not gain access to this territory.

Gonna pass out now

>>2018487
"I see. I'll be sure to inform the Board of this development."

>>2018467
The situation on the mainland is likely more complicated than you would expect. A full briefing would take far longer than we have, but suffice it to say that most pre-war estimates fall far short of the true extent of the damage.

Many factions of dubious morality seek to claim the American dream.

>>2018467
Even two hundred years later, America is still rebuilding. The damage from the great war was far greater than any possible prediction.

I can debrief your board when it becomes convenient, but right now it is urgent that I find my downed craft and traveling companion.

This has gone far better than I had hoped! If we dont fuck this up now we could have an ally as well as a staging platform to the C&C base. We should probably set up the teleporter ASAP and ferry through a few replicators and some bots for security. Then connect BigMT to their mainframe and see what we can see. Then portal through another portal and lets go see if the base will let us in.

>>2018637
Agreed!

We have a list of three priorities:
1. Recover the UFO + Riddick + EDE
2. Set up the teleporter to BigMT and bring our military across to ensure our control of this location
3. Go to the military base and update the IFF list

>>2018637
>>2018656
So we know that we have to deal with the NCR. and I don't remember for sure, but Yaunker is traveling with the fleet. If we eliminate the NCR fleet as friendly within the island's books then the fleet will be destroyed and possibly Yaunker as well. This might tip the balance against the NCR to breaking point, as for sure the loss of Yaunker is the loss of the lynchpin holding the country together and our stalemate goes kaput.

On the other hand, if the fleet lands we will have to deal with an extremely large military force and the presence of Yaunker himself in the island which may lead to conflict. Of course diplomatic actions by ourself might prevent this, but it will be a close one for sure. The tribes are another factor that we haven't considered though I would imagine it is quite easy to resolve it.
- Eden relies on indentured servitude/slavery
- We fix the teleporter, get an Omniconstructor through, and create the robots.
- Emacipation proclamation 2: electric boogaloo
- Bring the horde of people back to the tribes, announce our position as leader and how we were responsible for stopping the attacks and how the tribes no longer need to live in fear. Maybe recruit them as a auxillary force against a potential fight.

Of course there are things we haven't considered yet:
- One is whether or not the Board of Directors is willing to cooperate with our emacipation though the constructors will no doubt be a benefit to any negotiations.
- Second, the NCR is passing through the storm but how do they know that they can get passed? Some anon mentioned access codes which may be due to them accessing secret American bases, but as long-range communications with the mainland is possible we can't rule out the potentiality of someone providing this information from the island.
- Third, we have to quickly find out how far is the NCR fleet is from arriving.
- Fourth, we need information about his place as quickly as possible. The secretary is one thing, but chances are she's going to tell us only what is officially ordained by the Eden command. We need to hack into their databases to see what's up.

>>2018637
Essentially. This entire place is going to be an amazing boon to our nation and we can fix the shit that they have "wrong" in their society by our standards.

>>2018656
Yep.

>>2018715
>- Bring the horde of people back to the tribes, announce our position as leader and how we were responsible for stopping the attacks and how the tribes no longer need to live in fear. Maybe recruit them as a auxiliary force against a potential fight.
Agreed, they'll make excellent citizens as well if they survive.

>- One is whether or not the Board of Directors is willing to cooperate with our emancipation though the constructors will no doubt be a benefit to any negotiations.
I get the feeling when they see our far superior robotics, that can easily out-thinking their own, they'll be a little more willing. Especially when we offer everything else we've got in return for them freeing the slaves and being part of our nation. Worst comes to worst, we eliminate the board.

>- Second, the NCR is passing through the storm but how do they know that they can get passed? Some anon mentioned access codes which may be due to them accessing secret American bases, but as long-range communications with the mainland is possible we can't rule out the potentiality of someone providing this information from the island.
We assume that they'll get through the storm since we only disabled their IFF for a time. If they survived until it reactivated they'd continue without issue.

>- Third, we have to quickly find out how far is the NCR fleet is from arriving.
They were a few weeks away when we did our attack. Depending on how long we were unconscious and how long it took to get here we might have lost four to five days.

>- Fourth, we need information about his place as quickly as possible. The secretary is one thing, but chances are she's going to tell us only what is officially ordained by the Eden command. We need to hack into their databases to see what's up.
We are the president now. We can probably just assume direct control.

>>2018761
>We are the president now. We can probably just assume direct control.
Technically yes, but these people have had a set way of life for centuries as well as social and governmental structure. I think it will be a little more complicated in establishing control. We need to talk to the board and if they seem like they're hiding stuff from us we go through the back door.

>>2018715
>- Emacipation proclamation 2: electric boogaloo
>- Bring the horde of people back to the tribes, announce our position as leader and how we were responsible for stopping the attacks and how the tribes no longer need to live in fear. Maybe recruit them as a auxillary force against a potential fight.
We should aim to add a bunch of service robots to this society - while at the same time taking the indentured and the 'criminals' back to BigMT.

That will prevent conflict between the two groups as create more productive citizens.

Portal travel between the two areas should 100% be restricted to necessary personnel only.

>>2018800
True.

>>2018805
Why not just use the tribals to settle the other islands? Explain the situation in detail and that seeking revenge will only lead to more violence.

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While you await dinner, you spend your time enjoyng the various new technologies.

Particularly something called a "Walkman". It works like a pipboy holotape player, only much smaller and able to fit in your pocket. These "casettes" are able to hold many hours more than holotapes. What's more, they are attached to devices you put in your ears so you can privately listen to music. The best part is they work without radio contact, and because you develop the casette track yourself, you get to listen to the music you like without commercial breaks.

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Dinner is provided to your room on silver platters. A sampler. Some of these foods have funny sounding names, some of them taste a bit odd (you definitely tasted worse), but a lot of it is spectacularly delicious! Their Brahmin Beef is incredible soft, moist, and almost melts in your mouth. Strangely they don't know what a Brahmin is, and when you ask they say it comes from "Kobe cows". In any case the food here outclasses anything you've seen before. And apparently this is just the take home stuff, with much finer items during formal occasions.

There isn't much contact after that even into the next day when they provide breakfast in bed, Steele isn't reachable at the moment. Your servants say the Board is busy with important internal affairs right now, and apologize for the delay at meeting such an esteemed official.

Hmmm, your bullshit sense is tingling.

>What do?

>>2018973
The president of the Enclave should be able to help them with their internal affairs since they are under our jurisdiction. So how about we go drop in on their meeting and offer our insight? No need to inform them we are coming however...

Failing that, I think it is time we go for a walk. Let's go to that "criminal territory" and see if we can't get to Riddick, ED-E, our ship and the important teleporter.

>>2018993
This, let's put something nice on and pop right in.

Also, if the technical developments of this place we've seen so far are anything to go by, this place is going to massively improve the lives of our citizens.

>>2019015
The appliances, absolutely.

>>2018973
Time too find out why our bullshit sense Is tingling

>>2018993
Support

>>2018993
Hmmm, you get the sense you're being closely monitored. There are at least 3 or 4 hidden camera's, not to mention your servants are always nearby, as well as guards down the hall. Your absence is likely to be noticed.

Would you still like to go undercover?

>>2019313
Who said anything about undercover? There are two possibilities: either they will attempt to contain us, in which case we can ask why until either they concede or we have reason to believe our position is unsecured; the other possibility is that they will not attempt to contain us and we will be able to come and go as we please while they attempt to either direct themselves or us away from what they don't want us to find.


If I had to take a guess, they are just worried it's a ruse but still they shouldn't have any problem with us going for a walk and shit.

>>2019313
So first, look for all the cameras we can in our own private room, and cover them up nonchalantly with objects, then tell our servants we'll go to bed.

Put on our stealth suit and sneak out of the suite. Make a shape in the bed like we're sleeping in it

>>2019364
Well if they are planning something secret, us telling them they are leaving kind of ruins the point

>>2019427
Except my point is to figure out if they are just being cautious about this new supposed president or if they are genuinely not going to listen to us before we start trying any stealthy operations and shit.

>>2018973
let's just wait and see.

worst case they are talking to Yaunkers and were going to have to kill the entire board.

best case they are arguing over reunification and are about to make an offer.

either way we can hurry things along by informing then through proper channels thatwe will need to be heading out into criminal territory soon.

in the mean time, relax. read a book, talk to the servants.

there will be plenty of time for dealing or violence shortly.

>>2019434
Well I completely understand your point but it could ruin the element of surprise.If we try to walk out the door and they stop us, then sure, that's strange

But if they let us leave, I guarantee that as soon as we leave the servants are gonna contact the board.

Either that, or we're being paranoid again

>>2018973
Leave the room and talk to one of the guards, make it clear that we want a message to the higherups.

Paraphrase the following, for political correctness as necessary.

"Look, I understand that you buncha fucks have lived on this island for however long with uncontested dominion. I understand that you're probably unwilling to lose that privilege to me, seeing as I represent the government and you guys seem like the sort to follow protocol.

I /understand/ all of that, can empathize with your concerns, and allow me to assure you that at the power levels you guys are playing at we can work out something that is agreeable to all parties.

However, let me assure you that dipshitting around and making me sit by like that's not what you're doing is NOT the way to accomplish whatever your specific goals are.

Now you guys are either going to let me into that fucking bullshit 'internal affairs' meeting you've got going on so we can have some goddamn constructive talks OR you're going to let me go and give me what I need to repair my craft and recover my allies. And it's going to happen /NOW/ because I don't have time to sit and wait.

One of these options will leave you much better endeared to me than the other, but I'll leave it to you to decide which you'll take. So what do you say?"

>>2019434
>>2019436
>>2019489
Going to be away for 30min, but writing.

They might be talking to Yaunker or plotting to kill us. Or who knows. We need access to a computer terminal so we can hack into cameras, read up stuff etc.

>>2019822
Or just arguing about whether to bend the knee or not. They probably know to do so would limit their power, which Is likely not ideal for them.

>>2019822
I dont think the board wants to give up power.

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>>2019436
You decide to become a "Tourist" and head to the various amenities here. And there are so many.

People here travel around in scooters or in "Golf"-Carts. Everywhere you go you are 'escorted' by guards. The first place you decide to visit is the library.

It's . . .massive. Its at least as large as the NCR's University or the Follower's University. The books here are excellently preserved and there are advanced electronic cataloging systems.

The first thing you do is book up on the history of Eden.

It was designed as a haven for the Wealthy Elite of the old world, with exclusive invitations going out to the greatest entrepeneurs of the age. Though many invitations were never returned, such as Mr. House, Mr. Bradberton, and several others, quite a number of others did show up. It was part of a joint Government and Corporate effort to "preserve the spirit of capitalism" in the event of nuclear war.

More interestingly, this place has electronic archives of the stock market and corproate assets of the Pre-War as well as vast stockpiles of gold, platinum, and pre-war money.

Eden is run by the descendants of the entrepeneurs, engineers, business owners. In addition, a number of natives and labourers were signed on as indentured servants, who would accept a personal debt for the 'privelege' of living in Eden.

You ask if anyone has ever paid off this debt, and a few have. But many more have not. "Too many make the unfortunate mistake of violating their contract or incurring fines, which increases their debt. When they die, any outstanding debts are added onto their children in addition to the mandatory debt given to all children of servants. Some families are not expected, short of a sudden debt forgiveness, to be able to pay off their debts for many generations, if ever."

>>2019849
Meanwhile the Servants themselves are rather hush-mouthed. "Servants are seen not heard, Sir" when asked about whether they like their job, they smile and say yes that they appreciate the privelege of living in Eden. While a few legitimately content (mainly those in higher servant positions), others especially in lower ranks appear to be masking something else, you can tell by subtle facial movements or expressions.

>>2019849
>More interestingly, this place has electronic archives of the stock market and corproate assets of the Pre-War as well as vast stockpiles of gold, platinum, and pre-war money.
My god, those high density metals would be great for fissile-replication, electronics, trade and just general shit.

Those lists of corporate assets? Vastly valuable since we can reclaim those locations.

>"Too many make the unfortunate mistake of violating their contract or incurring fines, which increases their debt. When they die, any outstanding debts are added onto their children in addition to the mandatory debt given to all children of servants. Some families are not expected, short of a sudden debt forgiveness, to be able to pay off their debts for many generations, if ever."
Perpetual debt slavery. It's like if you took a caricature of the modern economic system and made it real...

>>2019894
Well I can't really blame them, but now that money isn't a thing for us anymore, indentured servitude like this isn't needed

>>2019884
What about...us finding out whats causing our bullshit dector to go off?

>>2019901
Still writing

>>2019911
It's maybe a little too late, but can we use a isolated computer terminals in the library to hack in the Eden mainframe? Potentially spy or observe on the Eden officials.

>>2019937
Library computers won't be on the same network as the high level government systems, would they?

>>2019952
They weren't in the NCR at least, or at least in any meaningfully hackable way.

>>2019899
>Well I can't really blame them
True, I mean their ancestors DID sign away their freedom and the Eden-folk did save them from nuclear death.

>now that money isn't a thing for us anymore, indentured servitude like this isn't needed
To be fair, money is a thing, it's just that it is used only for luxuries and for "voting".

>>2019937
>>2019952
This is a rich man's paradise. The likelihood of this being easy to get through is low. On the other hand, it's meant to be a place for ultra-capitalists and such who wouldn't be likely to cause problems so they might have a single network just for simplicities sake and shit.

Worth a shot.

>>2019972
Money, unlike their society, isn't an issue, or anything to focus on. It's gonna be a shock for the rich, but I'm sure they'll get on board if we give them a healthy dose of propaganda about banding together as Americans

>>2019998
Eh, I get the feeling that they don't really have capitalism either for the most part. They seem to have created a caste society between the pre-war rich and their indentured servants and lack any sorts of major economy.

Although it is hard to assess such things without knowledge of their population, industry and so on.

>>2020023
But think of the culture shock they're gonna be subjected to once we take full control. Having distinct classes, and then everyone being "equal" the next day, it might create a few grumbles

>>2019972
Currently your monetary system doesn't allow for things like debt or interest. The Sierra Madre Chip is the same.

There was talk about a percentage system based on the total amount of energy available, however this would fluctuate drastically depending on how much energy the government is using.

The compromise was to set aside a small percentage of energy/resource for civilian "market" and then dole them out in a set payment rate. Storing these energy credits in a bank instead meant to incur interest, but you can donate some of your credits towards a project you want to see completed. Most peoples food and basic living needs are not extremely energy taxing, and many can afford a growing income.

The vast majority of Energy/Fissile is government owned.

>>2020029
Which is why I want to use the indentured population, who are experienced in maintaining equipment and such, as well as their tribal brothers to expand to the other islands and begin restoring the Hawaiian island chain.

To make up for the shift meanwhile, I'd advise we deploy most of our stock of civilian robots to replace them while also getting ready to construct more.

>>2020031
True but that doesn't effect this.

>>2019489
You get the feeling saying these to the Guards would be a moot point. They're just Guards.

Also they aren't allowed to tell you where the meeting is, because they themselves are not privvy to that either.

You can always leave to go find your craft yourself but they strongly suggest against that.

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You realize the Board of Directors is intentionally delaying meeting you or giving you their presence. You aren't able to tell where they are, but from chatting around with other folk you see that they are absent from their usual hobbies of golfing, sunbathing, or other.

You are tempted to try and sneak around past forbidden areas and such.

>What do?

>>2020074
Just plop on our stealth suit and find the most important looking building in the city.

Not the most delicate, but you know

>>2020088
sure. Probably for the best.

>>2020074
Im in favor of leaving to find our craft. If they ever do decide to meet with us they can contact us on our pipboy.

>>2020088
>>2020095
We could see about going and getting our ship at this point, seeing as we have coordinates for it apparently. Although I could've misread it but I know for a fact we at least have a direction that the Eden-folk saw a stream of smoke descend in.

>>2020114
Then we'll write a note or something saying we'll be back, put it in the pocket of one of the guards, and haul ass over there then

>>2020124
Eh, I doubt they'd stop us. I'd ask for an escort and possibly mention the fact that our craft is technically nuclear armed...so they might want to secure it before those "criminals" do.

Assuming Riddick hasn't cut them up like a shredder or something.

>>2020140
I'd rather not take the chance. We don't know what these people's intentions are so for now I'd advise to tread lightly

Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>2020074
Can we examine one of the hidden cameras and determine where is it broadcasting to?
Security office = surveillance
Surveillance = location of board.
Rolling in case we need it.

>>2020156
Good god I hate my dice.

>>2020156
Except it probably goes to a local security room and then is relayed up the chain to the Board, so following the camera's would likely just take us on a scavenger hunt of go to A to find B to find C.

Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>2020156
>Rolling when OP doesn't say
Rolling that low watch this

>>2020168
I think we are a special case being the fucking president and all. That being said we are more likely to find clues than not. It won't hurt to try and how bout you roll son to help out.

Guys lets just go secure our ship and get the teleporter mounted on it set up. Then we can start teleporting in reinforcements and shit.

>>2020190
I've done it before for PER and INT checks so why not?

>>2020074
lets force the issue a little bit.

have the guards get in touch with A representative of the Board.

it doesnt have to be miss Steele, but we would appreciate continuity.

if they havent responded in an hour we can knock out the guards and try the stealthy route

Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>2020190
sad, sad rolls

>>2020193
Reinforcements? We got the NCR coming soon so we don't want to start a fight just yet. We need these people on our side and to resolve this as soon as possible.

>>2020193
We don't want reinforcements. We just want to secure the UFO and get to the bottom of whatever is happening

Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>2020205
Could be better

>>2020206
Relatively soon. Ships were still weeks away, and likely haven't been sped up by our disruption. Depends on how long we were unconscious.

hey guys.

idea.

get in contact with AHS 9 back home and have him scan the situation psionically.

eh? eh?

maybe even influence the Board to be more cooperative

>>2020206
>>2020211
If we can bring through people like Unity we can assemble our strike team to secure the Military base while we work on getting the Eden-folk on side.

Plus, we can send for stuff we currently lack in order to leverage our position. If we were to bring through 3 squads of infantry and assaultrons, that'd certainly get the Eden-folk listening and we could get SPI through to do spying for us.

>>2020225
Hrrrrm. Can his psychic abilities even reach this far? Even if we get in contact it this might not work. Unless QM says otherwise.

>>2020227
It's not gonna look to good when we're flooding the island with our own forces. This is one of those things where it's out of our hands.

We need to get the UFO working and see what the council is really doing.

>>2020237
And in this we are agreed. Fact is though I think we will have an easier job finding out if we can get our actual spying assets through. SPI and the Chinese dragoon's for example.

Meanwhile we go with our best combat, hacking and other such companions in full combat gear to secure the military base.

>>2020225
Is that something he does? I don't think he can go full Professor X.

>>2020245
Doesn't change the fact that the council will see that we have invited unknown combatants onto the island without permission

If there were any council members on the fence about coming to our side, it's very possible they would be swayed opposite of us.

I could see of bringing maybe the SPI here, but that's it.

>>2020262
>Doesn't change the fact that the council will see that we have invited unknown combatants onto the island without permission
And they have no reason to complain.

>If there were any council members on the fence about coming to our side, it's very possible they would be swayed opposite of us.
And it's very possible that seeing we actually have forces to bring to bear would make them admit our superiority.

>I could see of bringing maybe the SPI here, but that's it.
You agree we need the ship and should go get it however?

>>2020275
It's unknown combatants and they don;t 100 % trust us. If they think we're going to military annex them, they won't cooperate well.

>>2020275
>And they have no reason to complain.
What?

>And it's very possible that seeing we actually have forces to bring to bear would make them admit our superiority.
Or see it as an invasion and/or a threat to their sovergienity

Yeah I said we should go get the ship, secure it, then go see what's going on in the board meeting

if the board refuses to see us we should make steele an offer.

help us with access and she gets to be chairwoman steele.

>>2020283
>>2020287
I see we disagree about how they'd react to us bringing in additional people but can we just all agree to go get the ship? Please? So we can move on and shit.

>>2020307
>but can we just all agree to go get the ship? Please? So we can move on and shit.

Yes

>>2020307
yes. Lets just go to our ship.

>>2020307
>>2020316
>>2020321
That's 3 for it!

>>2020325
How should we deal with an armed escort tagging along?

>>2020335
If they are willing to help us by going into a place they've got no orders to follow us to, let them come.


They will be adequate meatshields.

>>2020335
We ditch them

>>2020344
M8, I feel like you are too insistent on escalating when they hold all the cards. Even if the NCR is weeks away, it will take much longer to establish control if the entire place is against us.

>>2020344
Them Dying does not inspire confidence in us. Best to ditch them. We are going into "criminal" territory.

>>2020355
I don't want to escalate things. I want to get this shit solved so we can get back to the part of this that I find easier to do and so we can get this shit solved and the US base ready for the NCR's potential arrival.

>>2020371
>Them Dying does not inspire confidence in us.
Hey, the courier does not allow his bullet sponges to die.

>Best to ditch them. We are going into "criminal" territory.
I know but I doubt they are even going to follow us.

>>2020385
No one wants them to come along, but we have all agreed to go to the UFO.
Let's just leave it at that and let QM writw

>>2020396
Yep. Also to revive an old debate: what architectural style are we going to use for all of our shit?


I still say that art deco is ideal for our "brighter future!" outlook and goal. Not to mention the giant human statues and shit we can use to install robots covertly into our every building...

>>2020404
I thought we were going full future pyramids after I highfived our architect.

>>2020417
Not everything we build can be a pyramid. Or an obelisk.

>>2020404
A lot of octagonal shit. Although, I would really like a lot of that Old Greek Revival shit that the US used when building it's government buildings.

>>2020404
I say Neo-Futurism. White buildings is inherently opulent.

>>2020424
Neo-Future + Art Deco + Neo-Egyptian sounds good

>>2020307
Supporting. Our guards can tag along if they'd like.

>>2020307
Supporting

>>2020424
>>2020434
I don't like Neo-Futurisim, can't we just stick with Art Deco/Neo Egyptian mix?

>>2020444
I could agree to Art Deco, but other than a few obelisks and some pyramids, I hate Neo-Egypt. I could go for a Neo-Rome though

>>2020444
Wait, what about c&c Nod architecture?

>>2020444
Why? Neo Futurims is sweet. All clean, and opulent. and shiny.

>>2020444
I would prefer we just stick to Art deco, perhaps with a bit of industrialism

>>2020461
I just don't like it, the pics i'm looking at in google tick me off in some way.

>>2020467
I feel as if industrialism sends a sort of backward message of what our society is capable of. Industrialist architecture calls back the industrial revolution, but we have long surpassed coal and smog and dirt that the era implies.

How about we just make objective statements about different architectural concepts, styles and elements until we narrow down what we find acceptable? Then we term that "Phoenix-ian" architecture. That way we can each take what we like from certain styles without copying them wholesale.

Back, reading up.

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>>2020452
The Neo-Egypt would just be those few pyramids.

The central government building in any town should be a pyramid/arcology - build in a strongly defensive manner.

Other government buildings will be built to a Neo-Roman style, incorporating obilisks sporadically.

Private buildings will be built Art Deco style - such as th vision in the pic

>>2020307
You insist you want to find your craft, and while the Guards put up some verbal resistance, they arent about to argue with a giant man in military grade power armor with more weapons than a Swiss-Army Knife.

Out the gate you go.

>Robot
"Caution, Sir. Beyond the Barrier is deemed unsafe for civilian personell."

>You
[I'm no Civlian]

>Robot
"Please remain safe. Have a nice day"

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Into the jungle again, and not a minute off before the sound of energy beams and railguns and splattered and burnt monstrous foes, as you carve your way into the green toward the direction of your ship.

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>>2020582
Too old fashioned for me. We are the future, we should be embracing that, instead of reviving older architectural styles.

Compared to Neo-futurist design, Art Deco can be a bit busy, even gaudy at times.

>>2020594
Yep, still ticks me off somehow somewhere.

>>2020594
It looks like you hollowed out a giant tooth but I have to admit that it can look okay in some cases.

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>>2020592
Of course you don't blast all the way there or you'd be noticed, and switch to stealth mode eventually.

You discover the ship has been moved and the tracks cover. Finding it in this damned jungle was hard, you're not primed for jungle exploration but some of the same principles of forestry still apply. You do end up finding it in a large tribal base, bigger than the one you found before. This must be their headquarters!

Lo and behold, you see that Riddick has become something of a hero among them. For blasting apart robots and rescuing them. ED-E is there too, and so is the damaged ship hidden in the cave.

You make your presence known to Riddick, or he spots you. Between you and him its never quite sure who spots who first cause he is just that good.

>Riddick
"I see you've managed to find us. These people need our help."

Seriously though, why not Nod architecture?

>>2020641
>What say/do?

>>2020643
To much black and red. Looks a bit too malevolent to really sell well.

>>2020641
>>2020650
"What for? And by the way i have revealed my existence and president status to the Eden government, i suspect that may be problematic for you."

>>2020670
This. Eden is probably causing the problems.

>>2020660
I agree but we can just change the color scheme to fix that, how about silver and red?

>>2020641
How badly damaged is the ship? What about the portal system.

>>2020641
How long has it been since we EMP'd the NCR?

>>2020641
How did I end up outside the saucer, while you two ended up with the saucer?

>>2020641
*Explain our role in Eden as President, the discontentment of the working class, and the Board of Directors up to no good.*

[Any ideas on locating these guys?]

>>2020804
Probably in the largest most official building. But first we have secure the islands from outside threats. Once we collect Riddick and ED-E we should head straight for Pearl Harbour.

>>2020641
>>2020650
whats the situation?

Ive made contact with Eden and revealed myself as president of the United States, but they are stalling.

its not damning in and of itself, but they dont appreciate the gravity of the situation. We need to deal with the fleet bearing down on all of us.

once thats accomplished we can end this ridiculous indentured servitude farce.

>>2020810
Maybe not, these guys might need our help without delay. If they can get us a power source we could hook up the teleporter and bring in armaments to help them stave off whatever is threatening them until we come back.

>>2020821
>If they can get us a power source we could hook up the teleporter and bring in armaments to help them stave off whatever is threatening them until we come back.
China was assaulting this place when the bombs dropped. Multiple ships crashed and landed on the coast under the effect of the storm.

We searched one of these and found multiple functional Chinese assault rifles and other weapons. They could easily be supplied these if they lack conventional arms.

>>2020836
I meant better weapons, the kind that are good against robots and aren't 200 years old.

>>2020821
The back and forth has been going on for years. Our arrival would not have done anything to disrupt the balance too much . Riddick has mostly been defending, and has been handling himself quite well.

>>2020846
Hey don't knock Chinese assault rifles. They are effective in the hands of the undertrained masses.

As to being effective against robots: these robots seem kinda shit. The real risk is the human guards.

>>2020821
Help the tribals against our new Enclave buds, why?

We should just move them out to our colony in Montana, or other islands.

Set them up to be self-sufficient citizens of the new America.

Don't let the grudges of the past dictate your future.

>>2020855
>As to being effective against robots: these robots seem kinda shit.
Are you sure? It seems to me the Tribals are just really good at destroying them.

>>2020863
>Help the tribals against our new Enclave buds, why?
Cause that's what we do? Free slaves and make them into citizens?
Also i didn't say anything about having the Tribals attack Eden, just arming them so they can resist better.

>>2020863
Yeah, except this is their "ancestral homeland" and that means a lot to some people. Many people. They won't abandon it if they aren't going to imminently die.
We can probably work something out between both factions so everyone is happy-ish

>>2020867
The robots were described as reacting slowly and shit which implies to me that they aren't exactly the most advanced things.

>>2020882
>>2020891
To be fair, we could probably move them to the other islands of Hawaii.

>>2020905
>The robots were described as reacting slowly and shit which implies to me that they aren't exactly the most advanced things.
Where did it say that?

>>2020959
Previous thread when we first saw the tribals fighting a robot.

>>2020964
This bit?
>As you step outside, you hear footsteps in the leaves. But you also hear the sound of metallic boots stomping down the road. It's a robot. Humanoid by the looks of it. Doesn't appear to be of a model you've seen, so not part of the big companies at least. It hasn't spotted you but you've spotted it. It's armed.

>You watch the robot searching around, weapons trained with clear intent. You then notice it heading toward a piece of vine on the ground, next to a bent tree. It takes a single step forward, and you hear the rope snap and the robot flung by bent tree slamming it back and forth on the ground. It buzzes angrily, firing its weapon erratically while bags filled with sticky, globular substances are thrown at its head and eyes.
>Figures begin moving from the jungle, bearing hammers and axes, thwacking the gun out of its hand before mauling the robot, trying to smash its head in. The robot swings back, but is outnumbered and trapped, and is being bashed to bits by the assailants. Eventually, its still enough that they let it down and continue to destroy it on the ground and rip out its pieces, putting them in bags.
Doesn't mention anything about it being slow.

>>2020983
Aye round about that bit. I swear it said something about it.


Another point is that they beat it with axes and hammers. Assault rifles would be amazing.

>>2021010
They severely weakened the robot with a trap and by melting it's sensors before that, i agree them using guns will help but they still succeed with regular traps.

Eating dinner, be done soon

>>2021022
True but my point is that Chinese assault rifles are entirely sufficient to put Eden on the back foot if in large quantities. So if anything, we'd want to limit how many we give the tribals.

>>2021072
I disagree, depending on what Riddick tells us the Assault rifles may just equalize the situation.
Let's just wait for QM before arguing about this any further though.

>>2021084
Agreed. The main point is that this situation is vastly complex and we have a looming time constraint.

We either need to get the base with the particle beam cannon and the storm generator under control before the NCR or unite the tribals and Edenites against the NCR.

>>2021097
the base is almost certainly Pearl Harbor.

We likely cannot repair the UFO without Edens supplies if not active help.

Riddick wants to help the tribals, but they might not have a lot to offer us.

I am all for brokering a treaty between eden and their ex slaves.

Hell, half of me just wants to unionize all the indentureds and let eden deal with that mess.

however their robotic labor will pick up the slack. The servants are literally expendable.

However capturing Pearl Harbor would send a HUGE cultural message that the Board cannot ignore. We can see to their integration afterward. but for now we need their supplies

>>2021193
Agreed. If Riddick can get us the needed electronics, between RIG'D's omnitool and our own knowledge we can repair the ship's systems. Seeing as he is leading the tribals, he odd to be able to do that.


Then we just head over, take over that base and then get to work making these different groups not kill eachother and shit.

>>2021219
ED-E has a bunch of American codes for random crap. He would go a long way to gaining access. Depending on how far away Pearl Harbour is, we could just walk, and it would be easier than scavanging around for UFO pieces.

>>2021236
It's on another island if I remember rightly so we need a boat / plane or to swim through the highly radioactive waters.

Also, I'm talking about the electronics of hundreds of Eden robots. We odd to find what we need to repair the ship seeing as we did it before with random shit we got from the MLA.

>>2020882
>side with the shitty tribals against high-tech true Americans
This mentality is why the NCR is beating us

>>2020891
Getting most of them to move would be a good start

>>2021280
The tribals are just as American as these people. Hawaii was a state before the bombs dropped after all.

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We are not """siding""" with anyone. We ARE the president so we seize control of Eden. If will then USE OUR RIGHTFUL AUTHORITY AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF, to abolish this horrific form of slavery. THE fucking END.

>>2021326
Yeah, that's the best case scenario. We will force them into Jolly cooperation. Probably need some restitution payments though.

>>2021280
I mean, it's also the only thing that really differentiates us from the NCR.

Anyway, I feel like there's a middle-ground here where we negotiate between the servants and the Edenists so that both sides come out alright.

It would help to demonstrate that we're highly competent by gaining control of the military base first though.

>>2021326
Sure, but we can soften the blow with promising robot servants aplenty in exchange AND by noting that with contact made (which we'll have to demonstrate they can't undo) they're going to have to make changes anyway.

>>2021326
That's the best choice.
I don't want the Eden people to get fucked up since we need there tech and fuck helping the tribe.

>>2021382
Why are so many anons so hostile towards the tribals? of any type?
It's like, fuck them for not wanting to be slaves, they should just take it or it would cause a hassle for us.