>>2027838
First

>>2027838
Also please dear God have a plan to prevent over micro managing of mecha.

Like give us load out options?

>>2027853

My plan is this. I'm taking all the mecha out of your ships. I'm giving you a bunch more, mostly tourney mecha. Then I'm going to probably put them back in, maybe with some player input. Among other things, you're also getting a ton of Rocs.

I call this sort of bullshit "Miles doing procurement and financial management behind the scenes." I justify it because you just made a ton of money from ridding the system of Pale Slayer Meridian and because you have a steady stream of recruitment.

And after a brief moment of calculation, you have 500 Rocs, which will serve as your basic-bitch mooks. This is, of course, counting the few hundred Harpies that are now getting upgraded from Red Siren's forces. Your Harpies and Bluegills are getting folded into these.

So, Colonies. Here are yours. There are more in the process of joining, and a bunch of empty Martian and Jovian bases that are yours in theory but you haven't moved into or invested any bases into yet.

~Auditorium~
Food Requirement: 4
Food Production: 4
Materials Requirement: 4
Materials Production: 1
Mecha Production Lines: 3

~16-Psyche~
Food Requirement: 3 (will increase over time)
Food Production: 2 (will increase over time)
CURRENT Materials Requirement: 11 (9 when repairs are complete)
CURRENT Materials Production: 13 (will increase over time)
Mecha Production Lines: 8

~Suleiman-2~
Food Requirement: 2
Food Production: 3
Materials Requirement: 2
Materials Production: 2
Mecha Production Lines: 1

~Suleiman-3~
Food Requirement: 3
Food Production: 4
Materials Requirement: 1
Materials Production: 2

~Suleiman-4~
Food Requirement: 2
Food Production: 2
Materials Requirement: 1
Materials Production: 4

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Decided to make something fun in honor of our hundredth thread, here is our current list of kills and disables (obviously only counting those we've fought in threads).

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>>2027868
And further broken down based on enemy aces we've fought.

I'll try to explain this despite being a little fried from adjusting it so much.

>>2027863

As you'll notice, Colonies have four basic stats, plus additional things like Mecha Production Lines and eventually shipyards.

Food Requirement is how many units of Food (this encompasses everything needed to live, "Food" is just how I'm simplifying it) the colony needs per month. The larger the colony, the more Food Requirement it has.

Food Production is how many units of Food the colony produces in a month. If it's equal to Food Requirement, it's self-sufficient (or in the case of Auditorium, brings in enough money to easily afford supplies from elsewhere). If it's less, the colony has to get food from your other colonies (hopefully you have a surplus). If it's greater, it gives you a surplus, which can make up the gaps elsewhere.

Materials work the same way as Food, with slightly different calculations. It's tied to how many Mecha Production Lines (and Shipyards) you have. You can shut down Mecha Production Lines (we'll worry about Shipyards once you have some) to reduce the Materials Requirement of a colony by one per line. So Auditorium is normally self-sufficient when it's not actively building mecha (or virtually all industry shutting down with Red Siren spending her loot surplus to upgrade the Rhinehawk via plot).

They'll also have starship-scale weapons and a ton of starship-scale armor (SP 400+) that can be used in your defense if you fight a battle at one of your colonies, but I haven't added those in yet.

Don't have enough food? You'll have problems. Don't have enough materials? Mecha Production Lines will shut down and if you still don't have enough you'll have problems. Fortunately, you have a surplus of both for now, in part due to the Suleiman colonies which, while small, have large farms and asteroid mining. Suleiman 2 also had a facility to serve as a backup to Suleiman 1. No secret technology there, sadly, but it does have a Production Line.

You also have your military base colonies. These aren't even listed until you activate them, sending people there and jumpstarting their industry. They WILL have substantial anti-ship and anti-mecha defenses for their size, and also Mecha Production Lines...but each and every one is deficient in Food and Materials Production, because they're supposed to be supplied by Mars and Jupiter (and now by you). The SSL planets will maintain them until you take possession of them.

Offhand, I'd say their stats are as follows.

~Military Colony~
Food Requirement: 1
Food Production: 0
Materials Requirement: 1
Materials Production: 0
Mecha Production Lines: 1

Very simply, these bases are a way to turn your surplus into more Mecha Production Lines, and if attacked the garrison can at least hold out long enough to call for help, usually.

>>2027881

That should actually be Materials Requirement: 2. Oops.

As for mecha, what I had in mind didn't work, so I'll sleep on it and update it tomorrow.

>>2027884
Why not just assign them as "unit blocks".

Like each squad of different mecha types give a unit a number of die to roll for offense/defense. Like Harpies give 1 attack die and zero defense.

Special squads have modifier abilities.

A stealth squad of Shinobi gives 1 reroll, 1 attack and 1 defense (I have no actual idea of power levels but you get the idea) representing it's ability to strike from cloak. If the reroll is (x) or (x and higher) they get to re-cloak and reroll again.

That way you're treating battle groups as sort of individual encounters so that you aren't micromanaging the battles. They're more like PCs with special abilities.

Except main character fights. Micromanage those.

>>2027868
>Tulwar pic is Mecha Tengu
my nigga

>>2027838
The fucking Rhinehawk is stupidly fast, holy shit. Tanky too with that projector screen

>>2027941
We need to get ALL THE scientists to help Karen along.

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>>2027838
It is good to see you Wong. Congrats on making 100 threads and thank you for the show. Now, as a sort of 100 thread present, I have been working on something the last week. It's done, but requires polish; The Whydah.
https://pastebin.com/VrD8zKUm
Used a whole bunch of ideas to make this baby. It's incredibly fast, highly customizable, and 100% Phaeton. Figured rather than Bass Frames and Mustangs, we could produce these if need to.
Either way, have a good halloween, will be heading to a party myself so I am thankful for the consideration.

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>>2027838
Here's to another hundred threads.

>>2027871
Da Hell, when did Roarke fought SKUNK?

>>2028217
The obstacle course of the tourney

>>2028696
Ah.

>>2028173
> Because when having trouble figuring out how to make the Mecha work, what he really needs is another munchkin Mecha to review

Lol. I actually think you've done a really good job there. Just - timing maybe isn't so great? Something to look at integrating later on though for sure.

>*FANGIRLING LIKE NEVER BEFORE*
This is a dream coming true....
It just happens that I love micromanagement.

I'll read the thread and I'll be right back.

>>2027863
>>2027881

So, we currently have 1 Extra Food and 3 Extra Materials.

Will the Suleiman Colonies ever increase their Food or Materials output?

Is it possible to make the Military colonies self sustaining?

>>2027863
Which Suleiman Colony was gutted by Fairchild again?

>>2029820
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>>2027838
Firstly...
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 100TH THREAD MARK, WONG!!!!!!!

And it should be us thanking yoy for allowing us to experience this awesome life experience that is being here and making part of this unmatched group narrative that is MSPQ, which unites people from all over the world into this ragtag band of pirates, mecha designers and friends that we call the kestrels (even if we kind of want to kill one another sometimes).

You know, I think we should celebrate this somehow.... But it won't be the same without you here, so I'll wait before anything.

Now about the micromanaging shenanigans.

Firstly, I want to throw a unorthodox idea, but its just a idea, not my main suggestion... So, if the qst already work like some sort of democracy, we could just name a some sort of "Micromanaging Ministry" and have the people in charge of it to deal with the micromanaging shenanigans of troops and inform the decisions... I mean... Me, Thunder and Ducth are crazy enough to keep track of thousand of statistics, shady rules, and killcounts... Keep tracking of mecha numbers isn't far of our usual shenanigans.

>>2027884
>>2027923
Yep.
This is reasonable idea, to have the mecha split into pirate squads of 5 members and turned into unit statistics.

A good way to deal with them is to use them in battle like ships, fuse their kills into single stat and turn thei armor into ship scale with weapon damage being multiplied x10... Then apply the rules of each shoot reducing the armor by 1d10 and you have Unit Stats.
(In case of amor varing from limb just divide the total SP by the number of limbs)
For example, a Pumpkinseed squad would have:

170 Kills
50 SP
Weapons:
WA+1, 60K Sword
WA+1, 30K Beam gun....Etc..

The only thing we would need to rework is the crits, though.

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>>2027936
I cannot see it as anything other than a B-2 Spirit...
I have no idea why.

>>2029831
Think we can salvage it?

>>2030001
It would take a shit ton of materials to rebuild the hull and all the infrastructure, but it should be doable.

>>2030006
Something to consider long into the future.

Self-sustaining military stations seems more doable in the meantime.

>>2030001
Thing was cored and vented into vacuum. We're almost likely better off rebuilding a new one and just melting this one for parts and raw material.

>>2030006
>>2030016
Honestly at this point it's probably better to salvage the parts for raw materials instead of trying to rebuild an entire colony.

>>2030028
>>2030033

Building a new one doesn't seem as effective when the basic structure of one already exists.

But, again, it's a project for consideration far into the future. A more immediate and useful goal would be making any military stations we acquire self-sustaining. Ideally, I'd like to make Auditorium Self-Sustaining as well.

>>2030033
Its still a huge chunk of a colony, once we get Psyche up and running we won't be needing for materials.

Weren't the Suleiman's responsible for a good portion of Fatima's Dad's wealth?

>>2030001
>>2030006
Most of what was salvageable was used to help building the new Rhinehawk.
So, probably not.

>>2029939
Having only certain players micromanage and play parts of the quest is the worst idea ever.

Having crrtain players work with Wong outside of threads to come up with different options go present the players is not a bad idea, but also debatable if it's even necessary.

Also for simplicity sake, most units would have to have standardized equipment and at most a single unique weapon.

Micromanaging is toxic on this site. Either only some players get to do it, or you have people fighting over the minutae of literally a hundred different things.

>>2030230
Okay, I'm sorry if I said something stupid, I don't go outside of this thread much anymore, so whats is the problem with micromanaging and why people have problems with it? I assumed that it was because of people just not wanting to be bothered to do it, and thats why I suggested the "micromaning board of directors".

If the problem is having people fight of minutae, does it even applies here? We would be just mostly moving troops around ONCE, and maybe some other times when the Raiding crews manage to go back after planets shenanigans.... And we just have a bunch of mecha to split, we aren't upgrading individuals mechs one by one or something like this.

Even if we got choices like "Spend X CP on mechs" I doubt that we would go too nuts with it, probably 4 or 5 anons would throw up some different options on how to spend it, and the rest would choose and correct course from that...

There is also the fact that the tourney showed that having something to occupy us with outside of the playtime helps to focus disscussion and avoid the worse of shitposting.... And since that some anons are just throwing more and more ships and mecha ideas with no focus because we don't have somewhere to vent them anymore.

For curiosity sake... How would you guys prefer to split the 500 Rocs between our ships and colonies?

>>2030363

Not by simply assign 'this number here', 'this number there'.

The best way would be to create ORBAT Templates.

At the very least, we need 2 differing types. Fleet Air Wing and Garrison Duties.

Say a Garrison Duties Orbat is 3-4 Squadrons of Rocs. We can then easily specify Divisions to garrison specific colonies. Units can then also be easily transferred between operational areas in strength and not piecemeal.

>>2030412
>ORBAT Templates
Hmmmm... But your structure seems to rely in personnel distribution, while the whole mech thing seems to rely on equipment distribution, with each of the ships and colonies having their own micromanagement led by each captain our colony governor.

Also, IC pirates use squads of 5, but that could change now that we are an nation.

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>>2029962
You mean like this?

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>>2030502

>>2030465
Both go hand in hand. With both, either is useless.

Right now definitely, crews will likely stay together under their own captains, just that reorganisation will help to form them up and incorporate them into an armed forces structure while keeping them intact.

Say for example the Stone Soldiers pilots:
Likely formed into an over-strength division of 5 squadrons that will still be attached to their ship.

Also, based off our old pastebin, our fleet itself has somewhere in the region of 400 or so mechs. Rocs alone outnumber that since we'll likely be staffing our fleet with a mix of tourny mechs as well, we'll have a large number left over for garrison duties.

The templates are there to help in the formation of new units that will be independent of the current crews, for a time when we transit to a proper navy, where units can be swapped from ship to ship without much trouble.

>>2030540
I get it now... So for now we should focus in Ship Squads with a exchangeable garrison that will serve as an example for our forces in the future... Makes sense.

One thing I would like to mention before I forget is that we should refrain for sending many Rocs to our outer systems expeditions...
First, because we need to keep spaces for our loot, and not only for the usual loot but for the mechas we loot too... What should keep in our minds that we need to make each mecha slot as useful as it can be.
Second(but still linked to the first), is that the only advantage the Rocs have on our other mechs is that they are absurdly fast, but they aren't that useful to direct combat against Knights and the like(unless they are on numerical advantage, I've done some simulations and 2 or 3 Rocs usually win against some heavier machines).

So I think that we should maintain a max of only 2 squads of Rocs for the Yamato and Harmonium for the first trip, a full the rest of their space with Shinobi Harpies and Tourney mechs(and in the case of the Harmonium their Morgan's II squad).

A Roc is basically a transforming Bluegill, right?

>>2030611
It also has wings and MA10 if I'm not mistaken.

I lost the link to its sheet, but the Wings give it a MA bonus that gets reduced by the aditional weight... So it is probably not far from that.

Thta mean that during jet mode it can fly 1KM per turn.

>>2030576
Don't forget we also have to protect Phaeton.

I wonder if we can get some sort of rapid response "pocket carriers" that can quickly respond to raids against our colonies/outposts with various levels of strength.

>>2030640
>Don't forget we also have to protect Phaeton.
I just said that we shouldn't send many Rocs with the Yamato and the Harmonium to out of the system... How does that goes agaisn't protecting the Belt if most of the Rocs remain?
Besides, we will still have the Stone Soldiers and at least an Avalonian ship full of Knights(which we should update into Ulfberth and Templar as fast as possible) chilling out here.... We don't need to have the bulk of our new elite mook forces here when they are going to be vital elsewhere.

>Pocket Carriers
Use the transport ships, we have at least 7 of them, we could have one of them in each colony while one go to each outer system mission.

They can hold 4 Squads of mech no? Make it 2 Roc squad, One Shinobi harpy and a special squad for each of them.

>>2030663
The important question is where will our wives duties take them.

Kate stays with us because a) protection and b) she's our engineer.

Fatima is probably the best to keep in-system for political issues as well as her ties to Mars.

Siren is also valuable for maintaining the popular opinion of us, also her role as the Pirate Queen of Auditorium. Then again, she could be useful for a Minmei Offense on her first extra-solar tour de force.

I bet we could even get people intentionally trying to get kidnapped and robbed by Roarke and Red together.

Clemmy I feel should be kept to training actually. At first. She has experience as a trainer first of all, and second we need her to make a Maenad Squad. Fuck Valkyries, Maenads are where it's at. Also keeps up the Greek theme. Kind of like reverse Amazons, they're looking for a strong man to beat and marry (as opposed to being beaten by).

So that leaves Sam and Lori as the Raiders. Lori will be super useful against Avalonian allies because nothing ruins the propaganda of an infallible goddess like a heretic.

Sam is ideal for scouting and raiding.

They get along reasonably well also. Lori could even bait out Knights to attack her and over-extend themselves while Sam ambushes them.

>>2030663
If we're stationing them in-system, though, why don't we just have them on the actual stations?

>>2030763

>Kate stays with us because a) protection and b) she's our engineer.

Karen.

>>2030763
Wong has mentioned that there will be political repurcussions for lori having to engage avalonian troops. Since we know that the duke and co seem to have some sort of plot going, we should avoid that since it might damage their cause.

In that case, I think Lori would be good on the homefront. Since shes a good mix of martial and leadership with a healthy does of charisma, like wong has mentioned. She'll work up loyalty of our colonies.

>>2030763
I agree with you in almost everything

>Maenads
We could have both, have Clemmy train a maenad squad while Siren trains a Amazon squad, and then let them compete against each other.

>Sam
We NEED Sam with Beckingham in the Moonbash raid, she is probably the only one who can do "Cloak&Dagger meets Labyrinthian Politics" from our aces... I also really want to recommend Garreth and Marciana to go with her, Garreth because we need a stealth backup in the case Sam is too ocuppied to do the actual Stealth stuff or in the case she needs to prove that isn't the Not!SpaceBatman that is sabotaging people by being in the same place as it at the same time.
Marcy because she is our only ace with experiences with nobles and politics that isn't occupied with more important matters, even if she will be out of her area of expertise.
>Lori
>>2030913
THIS.

One more thing to consider is to give a colony for Lori to protect and establish her base at, having the Avalonians mix with the general population is good long time strategy but for short time will create attrition because of their different culture, so giving them a place to... be avalonians and stuff... Could be helpful...

Also, I feel sad about her losing her palace and everything she had on avalonian grounds... I think its more than fair to give her a Palace or something to remind her of home while we don't get her lands back.

You know, I just had an idea to celebrate our 100th Thread aniversary!
What if we played a game?

To play, firstly reply to this post choosing your team:
>UJCIDF TEAM
>AVALONIAN TEAM

And remember to stop me if I'm commiting any heresy to any social rules for basket weaving nepalese boards that I don't know about.

>>2031006
Dude, go do something else for a bit, play vidya or read something else.

>>2031032
I'm playing P5 while I keep an eye on the thread, i just wanted to do something special for the 100th anniversary....

>>2031040
It's a nice gesture, but sometimes showing appreciation is doing what you have done before with a bit more gusto. Milestones don't need to be overly fancy.
>>2028833
Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last. Still, the idea was something akin to how Irina described the Mega Bass and Soul units; A high quality piece of hardware showing what we can do.. though, with a twist. Rather than handing out Whydah to anyone with money, sell and customize them to up coming aces. A ranks or 17ers. those who are not quite named ace or have their own unique machines. Customizable to what they need, and decked out in some of the better tech available. Like one of those really fancy cars, customized for the client with potential for more and sold to those who can handle it and would appreciate it, as opposed to the Megacorp practice of 'give enough money and you can have a horribly over engineered machine' like Rashad or that one planetary leader had.
Also, the arms, odd as they are happen to have an important use; what they can hold one handed, our medium strikers can hold with two. It would help with standardization of weaponry only having to worry about 5 spaces and 10 spaces.

>>2031040
Who is best girl?

>>2031164
Sam is best girl.

>>2031180
He's playing P5.

>>2031180
Weird way to spell `Clemmy`. Sam is a strong contender though.

>>2031164
>>2031184
Difficult question, I still don't have a favorite, it may be just because of little playing time(as I 'm still in Kaneshiro's Palace) but I didn't cared much about any of the options that already showed up... I just don't feel attached to any of the concepts that showed up.

Also... this is how I would split the Rocs

250 To the Colonies

10 per each of the transport ships staying at the Belt.

10 to the Yamato and 10 for the Harmonium.

60 to the Rhinehawk.

30 for the Cleander, 40 for the Heart of Sunshine and 30 for the Goshawk.

10 on each Avalonian Ship.

>>2027863
How are you going to rule the mecha production lines? Do they generate "X" CP per line as in the book? Or do they just produce mecha?

>>2027871
But we only fought Bethany once :^)

I saw 50 new posts and thought the game had started but no, of course it's just BR sperging out at full force like every fucking week.

BR, go do something else preferably with someone else and get your dose of social interaction like a healthy human bean.

Thank you in advance!

So. I’m not caught up yet, but I’ve been binging this nonstop for the past couple days. It’s amazing. Thank you Mr. Wong.

How is it that Oda is so best?

>>2031341
We've fought her at least twice, the first slayer fight she talked about killing our brother.

>>2031557
That was the other Slayer.

>>2031613
The second fight might have been, but the first fight had to be her.

>>2031384
>tfw at least BR is trying to contribute even if he's a spastic

Also

>thinking the thread was up because of only 50 posts

dohohoho

>>2031615
The conversation the other Slayer had with Caesar tells a different story.

>>2031909
She was talking about the second fight where we rescued Clemmy. Her talking about almost killing us was when she broke our harpy.

>>2031909
During our first encounter with the Slayer at Auditorium, the pilot specifically mentioned killing Triple-C.

When Caesar encountered the second Slayer at the prison, the pilot mentioned how they COULD have stopped triple-C from getting killed, but didn't.

>>2031949
Which is followed by the statement "So in a way, I did kill him."

>>2032005
That doesn't mean she was the one who personally put the knife into Triple-C's throat. It just means she feels equally responsible for his death. Sort of a 'I didn't pull the trigger, but I gave him the gun' situation.

>>2032005
If you did kill him why would you ever say "So in a way"?
>I bought some milk, so in a way I put milk in the fridge,

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>>2031384
>Session started with 50 posts
What?
>Social interaction.
What makes you think that I wear this persona beacause of too little social interaction? Its more like the contrary, I get tired of the day-to-day decadence of western society and get here to put my Genkidere mask and fit the group role of the Fool of the party... Man, a few weeks back I was going into or watching political debates every single day, against everything from monarchists to ancoms... Wong being biased by his political views during his writting seems like just a breath of fresh air compared to that.

I do admit however that I have this annoying habit of thinking too much about little details and dispersing my thoughts through many small comments instead of just writting enourmous boxes of text though.

For example, in my mind in this moment I have:
>About 5 designs of Desert themed mechs to be put on paper.
>2 or 3 225CP mechs for when we need stronger mook during the second gen game.
>About 3 concept of characters just in case I get a new opportunity to contribute characters.
>Two Concepts of modified transport ships that could probably be made in Phaeton harbors by customizing our normal transports.
>A Plan of Tourney Aces distributions for the current situation that may never see the light of the day.
>An In-Universe Holofanfic written by Akai about a Avalonian Dame falling in love with a UJCIDF Lt that hates vegetable-lovers and vegetable-people with every fiber of his being.
>Concept for the eldest Daughter of akai and Victor.
>Ideas for MSPQ manga drawings that I never put on paper because I was get distracted by other things in life.
>I big set of guesses about how Wong is going to conduce this story and what certain things really are.
And that is the MSPQ related stuff, I've got microplans and elocubrations about almost everything going on near me.

>>2031698
>tfw you do things like this everyweek and people get annoyed by it, but then when you dissapear they start missing you and writting sad things as if you were dead.
Sometimes I swear that some of you border being too tsun for my tastes...


Hey, Have you guys Noticed the Avalonian ship?

>1400K of Structure
>500K Cannons
>MISSILES
>Can hold 150 mechs each.
BY THE LADY! THIS THING IS LIKE A SUPER YAMATO!

>>2027838
100 threads
What a ride it has been!
I'm looking forward to playing nation builder now
I was worried when I got home from work and noticed the thread went up Monday.
See you guys tonight!

>>2031384
BR is a spaz it's true. He writes like me when I do blow. But his autism is pretty useful when it comes to things like the tournament or designing/checking mecha even though I remember him having to check his numbers again after submitting pretty often.

Just trust that Wong will keep his obsessive detailing out of the thread (I love micromanaging!) When BR gets to be too much himself.

And if his shitposts bother you, just ignore the faggot. Like not reading is a challenge for you.

>>2032211
> unironically posting that you were pretending to be retarded

You know that the joke is that pretending to be retarded IS retarded? Yes? Just letting you know so you don't post that pic again about yourself.

>>2032017
>>2032020
I'm not saying she did kill him, I'm saying she thinks she killed him. She was the Slayer we fought at Auditorium.

>>2032688
>I'm saying she thinks she killed him
She doesn't think she killed him. She's saying it as a joke like haha I guess you could say I killed him. Cabot did the deed.

>>2032706
Cabot is a sadistic cunt though who would probobly cop to anything if she thought it would deliver the hurt shot since she was untouchable. Also since the first mate appeared after she died and the bits stuck in the Kaisers fingers didn't show her as some cyborg receiver for the real First Mate. it means that the first two encounters with the First mate have a high probability of not being Cabot.

>>2032743
The description Duncan gave of CCC's killer has the body shape of Cabot and she herself confirmed to do it there is no reason to really think she didn't do it.

>>2032752
Yes, Cabot killed CCC.

I'm saying our first encounter with her as the First Mate happened after Auditorium. The First Mate we fought for the First time was the one who is currently alive. It treats itself as having killed CCC for some reason.

We can ask Wong once he gets back.

>>2032796
No, if for the fact that the way they talked wouldn't match up if she wasn't at Auditorium. Cabot was vicious and blunt the whole time and that fits the Auditorium one. The one with Jesus? Way too cagey and smart. She also knew all about the ASP system.. which she used again when facing Caesar.

>>2033028
To me it seemed that The one at Auditorium was deranged in the same way as the one Caesar fought.

>>2033133
Not really. Cabot was all about the glory and was petulent, getting mad and more akin to jabs. She never saw herself as 'heroic' like the one Caesar fought, and her methods were more sheer damage and destruction. She didn't play smart either.
This is important when you consider that how our Old Captain died was through using asteroids and a ambush to come at us. It also makes me think of their preference as well. Missiles seemed more the Second Slayer's thing, while Cabot seemed more Melee.

>>2033028
Just checking, but what's the current consensus on what the First Mate is? I'm thinking some kind of infomorph, be it a proper AI or some variant of neural upload.

>>2033152
Got a few ideas gathered up. The Mechanic girl Caesar saw way back, an AI, Fairchild's mom having had her mind transplanted into a Fleur.. there are a few of them.

>>2033152
Terran agent

>>2033152
The Mechanic that tried to get in Caesar's pants back when he was first introduced.

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>>2032512
>I say I'm being retarded on purpose.
>"But Anon! By being retarded you are being retarded!"
Everything is on purpose, nothing is on purpose, what is purpose anyway more than a shadow of cold logical concept being projected against the mutilayer structure of the consciouness of the universe and all the infinite wisdom of the state of being?

>>2033152
Choose:
>Fairchild's Mom mind in a clone or neural upload.
>Mechanic Girl
>The True Fairchild
>A A.I. made of the neural scans of the most powerfull jovian aces that ever existed.
>Floyd Beck Ressurected by Greenman Techonology.
>A Greenman's Plant-Thing.
>Any of the above + Being a terran agent.
>Fairchild's true boss piloting it from Terra.

>>2033211
I think he meant that whoever tries to use "I was just pretending to be retarded" loses all credibility. Although whether you're a dumbass or not, you're autistic enough that it doesn't even matter.

Power is out at my place and has been out since I got home. Going to a relative's, but it's unlikely I'll get the space to properly write tonight. Possibly after they go to bed.

Regarding micromanaging, no. I'm avoiding it as much as possible. Regarding Mook Mecha... I'm actually leaning in a different direction. Narratively there is no way I'd be rolling dice for a full-scale battle between hundreds of mecha. No, just no. It would therefore be fluff as, so far, most actions with your mecha fleet have been. Individually circumstances might lead to squads of them needing stats, but if that happens it's easy to whip up. The more I considered it, the more I realized that the simplest way to do this in general is to avoid being specific about how many mecha of what types you have even if you know generally. Ships are different because you CAN and DO have fleet battles with them where the big role mecha play is rolling for crits, plus ships are present in smaller numbers. My apologies for the technical issues.

>>2033323
How'd your power go out?

>>2033323
Hmmm... Are you sure? I feel like it would take away part of the fun of collecting new mechs when they aren't going to be accounted for into our forces anyway...

And about battles with hundreds and mecha and stuff... Can't we just do it like in that one Ceasar session in where he fought an entire army of Bluegills? Mainly QM the aces part first(as they are going to be sucession of smaller fights that are going to end up severely reducing the number of mecha involved on the scene) and then maybe fluffing the rest depending on what survive of the forces?

Is the risk of it getting out of hand that bad?
I kind of wanted to see mook combat for a change... But I'll be ok with whatever comes out of this anyway...

>>2033378
Dude, if you want us to micromanage everything, than participation is going to drop like a meteor because only a very select few are autistic enough to do that for a quest.

Most people are just here to enjoy a good story and occasional provide input when needed.

>>2033330

A downed powerline somewhere, probably. I didn't see any repair trucks nearby on the road though.

Did I read that someone had questions about the First Mate?

>>2033418
I've never said that we should roll everything at every chance, I just said that IMHO knowing how many mecha we had in each ship adds to the fun, and that we don't need to have hundreds of mecha rolling in everybattle in order for them to be of any use in it.

>>2033474
Yup. General consensus is that Cabot was FM at Suleiman and Auditorium while the other times was a different First Mate.

>>2033474
Idle musings about who and what he/she is. I'm pretty certain it's some kind of of Informorph, but there are no shortage of ways to fake pseudo-immortality. There's almost certainly some kind of Terran connection, but that can mean absolutely anything. It Terra had Ground-Gate technology (which we need to talk to Bruce about), a puppet setup is entirely plausible.

>>2033474
That Sucks bra.

My question is if the First Mate we faced at Auditorium was Cabot or not. I don't think it was.

>>2033250
But what if you're just pretending to pretend to be retarded? Does that make you a double retard or a clever retard?

>>2033665
Please just stop. Just stop reacting to ancap Brazilanon, and you're a healthier human being for it.

>>2033702
When someone posts almost a third of all posts in a thread its hard to ignore.

>>2033706

"Get the hell away from me you crazy bitch!"
Brasilia shivered, "Oh Thunder, your words just make me so... MOIST."

>>2033702
If I wanted to be a healthy human being I wouldn't hang out here.

But I suppose there are even more unhealthy places to stay on the internet.

Guess it's still the same over here, but now with nation management!

>>2033323
Hey Wong, not sure if it was ever covered, what are your thoughts on The Big O?

>>2033778
There is only one reasonable response to this question:

CAST IN THE NAME OF GOD
YE NOT GUILTY

>>2033778
Considering Wong was pretty happy about the KK being a black and white punching machine, more than likely he's a fan of The Big O

>>2033820
doesn't have those pistons though, which considering I think would've been decent additions to the Knuckle Kaiser.

>>2033849
The thruster in the KK's arms fill a similar function

>>2033474
less questions and more speculations.

I'm with the group that sees "Missile Tyrant" FM as the one who killed the captain while "Cut'em Close" was Cabot. As of know we have almost no concrete info on Missile tyrant except that their existence means FM is still on our shit list.

Confusion is added due to Priest Buddy fits the bill in terms of style for Missile Tyrant but doesn't fit the personality of an Orange Boy. So basically yay puzzles!

>>2033323
QM we need but don't deserve right here.

>>2033860
Cabot was a download specifically programmed to corrupt Fairchild. They're all Cabot. Even the Priest.

On a very unrelated note, in Shadow of War, when a Nazgul teleports behind you and tries to stab you in the back, you can teleport behind then and stab them in the back instead, provided you have the right skill.

Did we decide who is going to be the new First Mate for the Rhinehawk?

I vote on Basil.

Game is Friday, by the way. No more delays. I would have run it tonight if I didn't have to be up early for a corporate thing.

>>2033378
>Roll a D100 for every hundred of our mechs in combat. Number rolled is the number of survivors
Add bonuses for quality of the mechs and tactics
>Bam micro of conflict gone while also making the casualties more "Real"

>>2035296
Too random, you could end up with 10 Harpies winning against 100 Bluegills because of a random roll.

Focusing the action on our aces wouldn't change much, as it is what always happened before... We could also just rule that only mecha who surrender or that are taken diwn by the aces count as loot, with the rest being coverted to repairs for our own troops... And if you want to make the casualties more "real" we could just copy the "Enemy Ace POV" mechanic from the Psyche-16 episode and have the enemie's aces fight our mooks...

And I'm just quoting things already used, not aditional complications.

>>2035439
Meh. Let's just fake it and move the story along instead.

>>2035283
Hey Wong... Can we roll dice here while the game isn't running? Or is it a problem? I need to know because of reasons.

Also, Good luck with the corporate thing, don't let the shadowrunners kill you!

>>2034757
I kinda want Inari.

>>2035828
What about Max?

>>2035843
Maxwell Hammer? He's in charge of Psyche.

>>2035882
We need an organization chart of who does what.

>>2035953
>[Micromanaging intensifies]

>>2035965
There's no dice. It's cool.

But a Who is Who would be useful.

>>2035828
I want Inari to be first mate in the Goshawk with Captain Moe, I think that her experince could be more useful helping our younger and newer Captain.

>>2035882
>>2035953
>>2035965
>Psyche-16
Maxwell(Governor) with Mako and Wyatt probably hanging our there too for the time being.
>Yamato
Akai(Bosun) and James McTicktock(First Mate)
>Browning
Alexander(Libra Guy) as First Mate. I'm not mistaken.
>Heart of Sunshine/Auditorium
Katherine
>Harmonium
Bruce and Ex-Pally(Not Tourney related but worth mentioning)
>Rhinehawk
Basil(Chief of Security) and Skunk(Bosun)

Victor follow Lori's orders I think... And Magnarus is now Roarke's personal Knight, the rest didn't get assigned yet If my memory is working 100%.

Oh, There is also Shukrya, Moe's second and younger wife... She has a Jet called "Misericorde"... I think she could be a good bosun for him.

>>2036115
>IF I'm not mistaken.
Urrrg... So many typos...

>>2036115
If Inari is Moe's First Mate, I want scenes of her either being grandmotherly to him or Ara Ara-ing over him.

>>2036224
Well Inari likes them young and Moe has a penchant for cougar hunting. I would be worried about operational efficiency but it would be fun to read.

>>2036115
See guys? The micromanaging is useful for background and tracking.

> Shukrya

I am concerned, knowing what a misericorde is thanks to joker quest.

Very concerned.

P5 Blogpost:
I just spend 10 hours grinding in the third palace after discovering that I could be ambushed on purpose by high pixies and be put to sleep while using a persona that drains wind... What let me have infinite SP recovery for as much as I had patience....
I'm also very tired even after taking a nap between hours of gameplay.....

>>2036316
Joker quest?
What is it about?
>[Resisting the urge to make persona jokes]

>>2036316
Martian fighters are named after blades.

>>2036252
Inari is less cougar and more GMILF. She's not interested in another relationship, but she's more than willing to tease Moe.

>"My, my, so YOU'RE the one who seduced my daughter's commanding officer. You're just as fluffy as they said you'd be."

>>2036323
Spend time with Tae until she starts selling SP Recovery items and a discount.

>>2036328
Probably one of the darkest and most surreal quests on the site.

>>2036316
>joker quest.
Now there's a blast from the past

>>2036329
Yeah. But a blade has a purpose and a meaning.

In the future we have to to have a sgian-dubh if you want a little polite murder blade.

> The black dagger (sgian-dubh) was usually carried in a place of concealment very often under his armpit (or oxter). This gives support to the view that 'black' does not refer only to the colour of the handle but implies 'covert' – as in (as stated previously) blackmail or black market. When the Highlander visited a house on his travels having deposited all his other weapons at the front door he did not divest himself of his concealed dagger, since in these far off days it was unsafe to be ever totally unarmed, not because he feared his host but rather because he feared intrusions from outside.

Pirate knife!

Much cooler than a mercy kill knife.

>>2036407
We could just give Combat Cloak to our Scimitars and rename them as Sgian-Dubh.
I also propose that we tranfer them to the Goshawk, as they are Moe's oldest friends.

http://dune.wikia.com/wiki/Crysknife

When people havent brought dune into this quest yet

>>2036668
I've never read Doom but the "can only be drawn to shed blood" thing sounds stupid as fuck. People attributed that to gurkhas and kukris too but gurkhas mostly use kukris as tools.

>>2036768
They're a warrior culture of not!Arabs that take ritual and actions very seriously, so of course drawing a blade is absolutely dead serious to them.

>>2036779
Still stupid.

Gurkhas are a warrior culture too. They draw blades all the time to do menial things.

>>2036668
Probably the lack of giant sandworms.

Or Spice.

Or Navigators for the warp.

Or Bene Gesserit.

Or a moratorium on machine intelligence.

>>2036768
Those sorts of cultural semi-taboos are more often exaggerations built around the cultural memes of "don't draw a dangerous weapon/tool unless you are going to use it" that members of that culture use to troll outsiders.

Crap...

One more of my 12 uncles from my dad's side just died, only more 9 to go now...

>>2036802
Did they really made it just to troll outsiders? From where did you get that? Were you from a warrior culture in your last life?

>>2037147
BR you and your family fill every latin stereotype under the sun and it amuses me greatly.

>>2037496
Huh, interesting, which stereotypes do you mean exactly?

>>2037532
I think he means the huge family that dies frequently.

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Quick question. Anybody have the rules for building a starship? Mars and Jupiter have their own home-built and -produced designs, why not Phaeton? Granted it would probably end up as a glorified mech mule, but still.

>>2037722
If we go basic, then they would be in the core book. The fancy custom rules are in the advance tech book.

>>2037732
I don't have either of those.

>>2037722
Scaling rules in the Advanced Technical Manual.

>>2037775
No, as in the actual Mekton Zeta rules, or whatever system this is. Is it Mekton Zeta? I don't remember.

>>2037789
Yeah, it's in the Corebook.

>>2037832
I DON'T HAVE THE CORE BOOK.

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“Are we ready for gate projection yet?” You ask for the sixth or seventh time in the last hour, fidgeting in the Captain's Chair of the Rhinehawk and idly rolling one of the captured game pieces between your fingers. You're playing checkers against someone via the ansible connection, since each of you has a board.

Brunhilde, doing her real job for once instead of working the Rhinehawk's bar, shakes her head, “Not yet, Admi-er, your kingship. I've set a timer to go off and alert you the moment the microgate generator is recharged.” Her attention barely leaves her nails, which she's working on patiently.

“I don't think 'your kingship' is the right term.” Maya, Avi's girlfriend, remarks uncertainly, “Your highness, maybe?”

“Loriette says it's 'majesty' for sitting, uh, kings and stuff.” Avi replies, from where he's recalibrating the ship's weapons systems.

“It's too complicated.” Brunhilde grumbles, “Boss is fine, right boss?”

You wave the question off. Titles don't concern you very much.

Colonel Stern, occupying one half of the split screen that the main holo-monitor is currently displaying, raises an eyebrow and makes his next move on his own set, “A commander must learn patience, or he can be baited into mistakes. Being a great warrior is practically easy compared to the difficulties inherent in leading large masses of troops.”

You grumble affirmatively, and look over at Miles, occupying the other half of the screen and seated in her temporary office somewhere in Red Siren's palace on Auditorium. It's remarkably neat, though you're not sure whether you can attribute that to her or not, “Have you been able to get a call through to California Station?”

[Continued]

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>>2037839
LOOK ON 4SHARED!
>>2037850
AWAKEN MY KESTRELS!

>>2037871
CALLING ALL THE KESTRELS FOR THE BEGINING OF OUR 100th THREAD!?
WHO IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT?

>>2037850
Good ol' blue gill joe. Always around for a game of checkers.

>>2037871

Da Archive threads on /tg/ are good for it too.

>>2037147
>Did they really made it just to troll outsiders?
Not really. The rumored taboo serves a couple actual purposes: reminds the owner of the blade to only draw it when it is appropriate/necessary and decreases the number of people asking to look at your "unusual knife."

Rumors tend to spread fast and people stop asking when you show an annoyance your blade and then lightly cut their thumb or palm before resheathing it.

>From where did you get that?

A Gurkha himself and knowledge of the reoccurring meme that has popped up through out history in a ton of different cultures.

>Were you from a warrior culture in your last life?

Multi-generation military brat and also former military.

>>2037920
Thank you for the useful info anon.

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“Gee, Dude, you think maybe if I had I would have told you? Old Man Checkers is right. You're about as patient as...as...” Miles fumbles for a simile and fails to find it, shaking her head, “Fuck it. Look, you can guess why maybe the Hextarchs might be stalling, right?”

You can. California Station, by custom, as a nominally independent outpost, is run by a council of six, known as the Hextarchy. Some people say that Sextarchy is grammatically correct, but it doesn't sound quite as dignified even if you might privately think Sextarch is a good title to have. One representative elected (by those who are willing to pay the poll tax) from each of California Station's four colonies, plus the chief executive of the California Station Shipyards and the elected spokesman (no payment required to vote, just company membership) of the California Station Shipyards' workers. All of which, in the past, have been subordinate to the Jovian and Martian militaries by virtue of not wanting to be on the business end of a warship. Corruption and shifty dealings are practically a tradition among the Hextarchy, bribery was common in the event of a 3-3 split, and that was how the four California Station pirate bands managed to spring up. Operating under a truce negotiated by Captain Jeremiah Ozark of the Iron Kestrels, it forged peace between the Iron Kestrels, Red Siren's fans (the least native and least present of the groups, but they do still have a foothold on California Station as a place to distribute her merchandise more on the up-and-up than Auditorium itself), the Storm Dragons, and the Stone Soldiers. While you operated in the shadows, the Sextarchy was happy to leave you alone.

Now, however, the situation has changed substantially. You've been gone for months, and in that time you've taken a very loose association whose rules were based predominantly on an abundance of loot and no real need to fight over targets and turned it into an actual military alliance. You're coming back with a fleet, as the head of a nation, and with every reason to claim California Station as your territory with the existing governing body completely unable to stop you. Naturally, they might see the end of the gravy train they've shamelessly ridden fast approaching, and naturally they might not be happy about it. Stomping grounds or not, you need to be careful, Meridian wanted you here for a reason.

However, “It still doesn't make sense.” You remark. “I'd expect them to put you off, make you talk to an aide, arrange a meeting...whatever it takes to act like this isn't a complete and total conquest, so that they can maybe negotiate to continue running the colony under my banner. But you say they're not responding at all?”

[Continued]

>>2038027
..Got a feeling one or two of the five man band are up to something here.

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>>2037871
The Sun is with us.

>>2038027
They're dead.

Meridian probably drowned them with nanobots.

>>2038042
If not Meridian, than the other two members. What were their names again?

>>2038039
PRAISE.

Oh yeah, that reminds me.

PALADIN-SENPAI, ARE YOU THERE!?

I'VE FOUND ADULT LUCCA!

>>2038048
The Gentleman and the King In Yellow?
I don't remember the last two.

>>2038034
I'm pretty certain Meridian was implying if not stating that the band's "King" had control of CS.

>>2038071
Maybe they had a deal with Meridian, and now that he failed to bring Roark for an ambush they bailed out before we got our hands on them.

>>2037920
>Not really. The rumored taboo serves a couple actual purposes: reminds the owner of the blade to only draw it when it is appropriate/necessary

A modern day equivalent would be 'Don't draw you gun unless you intend to fire'

Also, just got off work, let's do this shit.

Alright, time to start, Buddy.

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>>2038196
That would be a great catchphrase for Walter.....

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Miles nods, frowning, “That's right. They're not responding, nobody in California Station's government is even picking up. Many of our old contacts aren't, either, and the ones that are are street-level criminals who don't know anything. Oh, except that, obviously, with you gone the local gangs and small-time criminals have gotten a lot more cocksure. Even that information is probably out of date, though, they can't know that the Belt is Iron Kestrels turf now, entirely, or they should have come crawling in to surrender first and get in while the getting's good, right?”

Her logic makes sense, “Or Meridian killed them all.”

She snorts, “Him and what infrastructure? Nobody's reporting chaos or begging for us to come save them, although like I said, the local gangs are a lot more bold than they used to be. The owner of that bar we used to meet at, the one you came back from the dead at, was run over by a ground car a few weeks ago. His niece is running his place now, she was one of the more knowledgeable people I was able to get ahold of.”

“Thank goodness for that.” You remark, then turn to Stern, “Colonel, how many ships does the UJCIDF have in the vicinity?” You're not willing to commit to an allied show of force, but it might be useful, and you're undecided on that front.

“None.” He replies phlegmatically, grimacing as you take another of his pieces off the board. “Everyone of Captain rank or above is being scrutinized to make sure we don't have any Fairchild sympathizers plotting trouble, the War Marshall is a thorough sort of man. To avoid the possibility of a conflict with your people, we've removed all of our military assets from California Station, and the Martians have done the same.” He sighs, “Speaking of rank, they're promoting me to General.”

“Congratulations.” You say with complete sincerity.

He shakes his head, “Against my will. Rudolph bullied me into it, he claims he's been out of things too long and absolutely needed someone he could rely on. I offered a list of other candidates to run SOUL and he crumpled it up and threw it away. The only concession I could make is that they're letting me keep the Cincinnatus instead of forcing me to take the Iulia Maesa. Strongest ship in the fleet or not, she's not my ship. I know every rivet on the Cincinnatus, we've grown old together, and she's the only one I need. I'm letting Trevor, the older Luxol boy, have the Maesa. Speaking of ambitious young men with battleships, to an ambitious young man with a battleship, Grand Admiral Jorgenssen has a request for you.”

You frown, remembering the pale Martian, “What does he want?” You're expecting a meeting, some way for him to gain an alliance, likely dragging you into the inevitable succession struggle after Hakim passes on. A struggle you suspect on some level you're already involved in.

[Continued]

>>2038230
Roarke, you married the richest woman on Mars. Of course you're involved.

>>2038252
Heck, Hakim likely sees Roake as the (future) father of his heir.

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He strokes his beard, “It's really rather strange. He wants your lieutenant, the Mohammed boy, with him on Dwakim. Apparently he's heard good things about him, and as fellow Martians they should get along. Or maybe he just wants someone to balance out Captain Oda.” His voice is rather dry. You'd committed, prior to leaving the Academy in something of a hurry, to sending the Harmonium to Monbash and the Yamato to Dwakim, with the chance of secondary vessels to support them. After all, you don't want to lock yourself in to anything.

“Both possibilities.” You shrug, then sigh. Mohammed deserves a chance to command, he's handled himself exceptionally well on multiple occasions. “Him being an officer on the Rhinehawk makes that complicated, I'm not sure I'm comfortable just assigning him by himself to a Martian ship...” Because Fatima has taught you about how the hierarchies of Muslim noble families might make their officers view him as a dangerous outsider and a threat, “...Or to the Storm Dragons...” Where he'd have an effectively higher rank than Oda's own officers. Abruptly, you have an idea, “Samantha?”

“Mmm?” Your wife stretches in the spare chair where she's been sneaking a nap, opening one eye and tilting her fancy officer's cap up, smiling tentatively, “Sorry Colonel, sorry Roarke, I must have drifted off.”

You smile and lean over to kiss her cheek, “Go tell Mohammed he's been promoted to Captain of the Goshawk. Tell him to requisition a few squads of officer mecha on Auditorium to supplement its complement of Rocs, he's free to alter the personnel and mecha setup on board as he likes, and take Inari Sune as his First Mate. I'll let him work out who his Bosun is for himself. Then go to bed, you've been up much too long.”

“So have you.” She ripostes.

You grin at her, “I couldn't sleep even if I wanted to. Do I need to make this an order?”

“Isn't it already?” She teases, standing up, dusting herself off, and giving you a hug, “Come to bed at some point, please.”

You nod without promising anything, unsure that you even could sleep, and she departs with a sway of her hips...trading venomous glances with the girl who slinks onto the bridge behind her.

“Roaaaarke, are we there yeeeet?” The Butcher complains, resting her breasts on your head and letting her arms hang down around her shoulders, “I didn't get a chance to show that bastard who he was interfering with!” She complains even more, “I'm angry and I don't have anyone I can take it out on that wouldn't get me in trouble!”

[Continued]

>>2038323
>take Inari Sune as his First Mate
Will there be Ara Ara-ing?

>>2038323
Well... That deal with it.
Kinda sad about sending him to Dwakim, I remember people wanting to send him to Monbash and I personally wanted to send an Avalonian ship to Dwakim for maximum overkill.

>>2038347
no, but there will be tea.

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>>2038359
Excellent.

>>2038378
It was all part of her plan of seeing Jergal-6 again a last time before dying all along.

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Brunhilde mutters “A match made in Olympus.” under her breath, her attention rapidly returning to her nails as Clemmy fixes a baleful stare on her.

“Heeey, when was the last time you went a few rounds in the sparring ring, huh?” The white-clad pirate queen narrows her eyes at the bridge officer. Then she growls to herself, “Forget it. Sorry, Brunny. Heya Colonel.” She glances up at Stern.

“You've certainly grown.” He remarks neutrally, “That's a very mature response.”

She preens, “I've got responsibilities and stuff now.”

“So you do. Not picking on any of your husband's underlings, are you?” He inquires.

She rolls her eyes and grumbles, hugging you like a teddy bear, “As if I'd do that!” She quickly changes the subject before Maya or Brunhilde...or worse, Miles...can say otherwise, “Inari's a good choice, I overheard that part. She's ex-military. Not too keen on commanding anyone, but her experience will be good for training Moe.” She sighs, “He's a good kid but I still miss Caesar. That crazy boy would do anything for someone he loves, I admire that.” Of course she does, you reach up and pat her head accordingly.

A beeping notification on the holoscreens built into the arms of your chair informs you that the Rhinehawk is ready for immediate warp, finally.

>[Go straight to California Station alone]
>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]
>[Go back to Auditorium, gather more ships, and go to California Station with them, although it takes longer]

>>2038426
>>[Go straight to California Station alone]

The Yamato's drives are spooled up right? So they can hot drop in if anything happens?

>>2038426
>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]

We still need to catch the FMB offguard, we can't go in without backup, and the more time we take gathering Phaeton's forces is more time FMB has to plan for your arrival.

>>2038426
>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]

We need no fleet. We have HANABI

>>2038426
>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]
Imperial March intensifies?

>>2038426
Just to check... Why should we leave the Yamato behind?

Also, can we give Combat Cloak to the Scimitars and give them to Moe like was mentioned earlier this thread?

Oh... And about the Master Harpy that could be made by using our last Tulwar... They're 180ish Medium strikers, right? Could we adapt them to be a Special Tourney level mech with jet transformation instead and give it to one of our ships?Maybe to Moe's ship too?

>>2038426
>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]

I am filled with distrust.

>>2038444
>>2038453
>>2038461
Something seems fish here.
Just think, Meridian plan was to lure us away to California station.
But don't just look at the "probably an ambush" part, also look to the fact that they could be planning on taking advantage of less ships and the academy to use it as their advantage, as there is many important people here at the moment.

>>2038426
>>[Go straight to California Station alone]
We fear nothing.

>>2038426
>>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]
I want to see oda's machine.

>>2038426

>[Go straight to California Station with the Yamato]

Strength in numbers

Second question.

Once you arrive (with the Yamato in tow), will you...

>[Hail the colonies and demand their surrender from your ship]
>[Land and do what you need to do from there]

>>2038528
How good is our stealth team? Because we could send a few mechs to canvas the area while we talk it up, in case they have hostages.

>>2038528
>[Land and do what you need to do from there]
Better yet, declare that we're here for the remaining heads of the Five Man Band and any attempt to hinder or obstruct us is casus beli for war.

>>2038534

Samantha is excellent, the Shinobis are invisible to the naked eye and anything without an ASP.

>>2038534
either way.. >>2038528
>>[Hail the colonies and demand their surrender from your ship]
Lure them out, keep them talking, and play to our strengths. We could have the Yamato appear as a ambush, or use the shinobi harpies to do some blind side damage to their forces.

>>2038528
>[Hail the colonies and demand their surrender from your ship]
But send the stealth units out before hailing them, and see if they notice something unusual.

>>2038528
>>2038558
>Yamato as ambush
Lets also do this, do we have shinobi harpies on the Rhinehawk?

>>2038558
>>2038571

You...mean in space? Because this isn't Suleiman 1 where you literally blasted your way in. If mecha enter the colonies it would have to be from the docks. Not to mention, a machine whose height is at least ten meters isn't the best for "spotting anything unusual" from an overhead flyby.

>>2038597
Considering Oda's choice of mech. Does he have any spaceborne marine ninjas?

Maybe we can deploy some ninja ground troops.

>>2038577
>>2038558

What exactly are you trying to ambush with this Heavy Cruiser covered in neon dragons and eye-hurtingly-bright Japanese art?

>>2038528
>[Hail the colonies and demand their surrender from your ship]

>>2038597
Look for possible ambush set ups, or anything that could give them an edge over us by taking us by suprise.
Yes, in space then, around an on the colonys outside structure I mean.

>>2038577
Not sure. Also, >>2038547 the Wraith. If I recall it also has really good stealth as well.

>>2038597
Not so much blasting, but seeing where areas are congested and to have them serve as a rescue/possible exfiltration team. I wouldn't be surprised if they have hostages or ambushes ready. Having the means to counter it would be a good idea.

>>2038615
Uhhhhh.... Maybe we give them the coordinates to jump behind an enemy ship and HANABI?

Ambush in the sense of making them go for us and them having reinforcementes show up in a advantageous position.

>>2038615
Well, more like having it Jump after the Rhinehawk, as >>2038629
said. As is, I am trying to think of a plan or means to mitigate the trouble they will cause.
Sides, I want to take the fight outside the colony in the worse case scenario.

>>2038625
>>2038615
Is Gareth and the Wraith abord at this moment?
Have him find a spot from where to shoot people behind their backs and outside their range then, he should be fast enough to keep them away even if his on the station hull when hordes of enemy mech get out of the hangars.

>>2038635
In either case, Meridian wanted us to go into the colony if I recall right. That is likely where the trap is.

>>2038528
>>[Land and do what you need to do from there]

>>2038528
>>[Land and do what you need to do from there]

>>2038672
>>2038721
>1 post from this ID.
Shady.

>>2038733
Its the fact they won't even put their own two cents into the conversation that seems off. Never liked those sorts.

>>2038738
Not only that, but they also created a draw.

>>2038733
slim shady
i just turned back in for the vote
i was the guy talking about dune

>>2038629
actually impossible. Takes 1 full turn for a ships weapons systems to come online after a jump.
also
>>2038528

>[Land and do what you need to do from there]

>>2038751
>>2038750
You lot do realize that being inside the colony is exactly the plan that Meridian wanted for us and would likely cut us off from most of our support and mech? We won't be able to use the Kaiser in there or our ship and crew.

>>2038756
Not unless we enter the colony in our Mech~

It is the royal ride after all.

>>2038750
Do you have proof? The ID isn't the same.

>>2038751
Please see:>>2038756 and >>2038649

>>2038528
>>[Land and do what you need to do from there]
Meridian probably planed to have something set up for WHEN we got there and he was still alive to get it set up. Killing Meridian when we did probably fucked up the plan alot, bring Clemmy with us as backup though.

>>2038757
Which would be in the bay and not in the colony prior. Also
>leaving the royal ride unpiloted in enemy territory when they are expecting you.
You are asking for them to plant bombs or trying to outright destroy the Kaiser.

>>2038528
Hail them, really just landing is a bad call.

either Maridians trap is their and we walk into it, or the Hexachs view this as an invasion they are expecting which is why they have been refusing contact. either way landing right off seems like a bad call however you look at it.

>>2038766
Its an invasion backed by Mars and Jove then and at that point theirs nothing they can do. If they kill Roarke they are completely fucked, thought that supposes they care about living without power.

>>2038770
Mars and Jove are just not getting in our way, they aren't actively helping.

Their plan always involved killing Roarke, they even outrightly sided with Avalon, they don't care about Jove and Mars already and expect a full blown war.

And you plan on docking the Kaiser in enemy territory?

>>2038770
I don't think the gangs or whomever are joining with the five man band are the brightest tools in the shed. They likely see a way to gain more power and are taking it.

>>2038770
If they kill Roarke in their eyes shit goes back to normal. Phaeton collapses and they go back to buisness as usual.

We know that just crossing Roarke is what actually fucks them but these are a group of oligarchs that have been living high off the hog with a very limited understanding of the interstellar political situation and we are, though scary, just an up jumped criminal punk from their station.

That is assuming that they are in control at all which is unlikely. in which case we have zero intel on what to expect on the station.

>>2038766
>>2038770
the Hextarchs are politicians an gangsters, not warlords. By all accounts, they should be trying to buy or bargain their way into the new regime, not picking a fight with it. Someone else is calling the shots.

>>2038796
Likely the 5 man band, the people who have had an eye on taking over the belt themselves, hence why we should not go in alone there.

>>2038733
Just showed up bub.

>>2038789
>>2038796
Its pretty clear that the 5Megabytes is in contorl and planning an ambush that involves we getting into the station.

And people want to do exactly that.

When we don't even need to go in to take the station.

WHY?

>>2038796
The california pirates were weak. There is a reason for that. elsewhere in the belt pirates were pirates not our Broadway show types, the dead men tell no tales style. this is mostly because of mars and Jupiter wanting a buffer, but mostly its because California station was strong militarily when compared to Green skull tier pirates. you don't hold a linchpin trade post with just bribes and bargains.

that said, Kestrals and 5 man band are all that remain, and their lack of comunitcation is likely they either did what would be expected of them, but with FMB and are now dead in which case we have no tactical knowledge of the situation. Or they are holding their cards close in hopes that they can bloody our nose to deny pirates their station.

In both cases the stations at large have no clue whats happening and the only safe way of boarding the station is weapons hot, breaching and clearing which can go wrong in a million different ways. Worst case for boarding strait up, 5 man band had killed the Hexachs and rigged the station to blow as soon as we attack. best case one of the 5 man band is commanding a contingent on the station and will have zero care for collateral damage. both bad PR

>>2038825
>They totally have nothing prepared for if two ships showed up not like the station is loaded to the teeth with antiship weaponry
>Not like Roarke or at least Miles would probably know at least one back entrances into California station and could sneak in

>>2038834
>A hundred mechs isn't able to crit the station until it can't defend itself.
>Like they don't have bombs in every entrance when they literally have the best source of info on the entire station.
Thunder, pls.

>>2038834
Sneaking in through the back door is a completely different verbiage to >[Land and do what you need to do from there] that seems to imply docking our ships.

We have only civilian level intel on the ground situation, so we hail them and send in Shinobis to scout.

>>2038851
Either docking or going full boarding action which with at least three o'neill cylinder to contend with which our lack of intelligence also means we don't know where we are supposed to hit we didn't bring near enough manpower.

>>2038547
Hey Wong, are you still there?

>>2038825

Why would you not need to go in and take the station? Do you plan on starving out colonies that exist to farm enough food for and create enough oxygen to sustain the shipyards? Or damage the colonies until they start venting atmosphere like Suleiman 1?

>>2038948
They can surrender their weapons in space.
While we point guns at them.
Without our people inside it where they can pull stuff on us.


Also... I've got a feeling that the niece of the bar's previosu owner is going to be important somehow.

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>>2038982
>Have two ships
>Thinking CALIFORNIA STATION will surrender

>>2038830
>The california pirates were weak. There is a reason for that. elsewhere in the belt pirates were pirates not our Broadway show types, the dead men tell no tales style. this is mostly because of mars and Jupiter wanting a buffer, but mostly its because California station was strong militarily when compared to Green skull tier pirates. you don't hold a linchpin trade post with just bribes and bargains.

While this isn't technically wrong, most pirate crews individually were the size of the Kestrels or smaller (and less renowned). The big fleets and legendary captains are their own special brand of predator.

>Broadway show types

Imagine being the Captain of...let's be generous and say you have a Channel or Efreet-sized pirate ship. You've got less than 70 mecha, which are Harpies. Your officers might have Bluegills or if you're lucky, Tulwars, and you might have a Tulwar or a lower-end Warmouth.

Now imagine having to fight Red Siren in the Archen.

>>2038982

I flat-out don't understand what you mean. You're going to point the weapons of your starships and mecha at the colonies and demand everyone with a weapon inside throw it out an airlock or something? That just...that doesn't make sense. How would you know everyone complied? What would you do if they didn't, murder a colony?

>>2038988

It's a civilian station. It's not a matter of it being individually a strong place with mecha or warships of its own.

>>2039003
>Point weapons
>Make them surrender their mechas in space
>March Troops through the gates.
No main character needs to be exploded while going in.

>>2038995
Even Oda who was on the lower spectrum of our Captains could be scary with his dual katanas and ace pilot skills, and thats not taking in consideration whatever his old First Mate piloted.
I had I design that I did end up using that would be Akai's father mech... I Called it "The Silver Chariot".

>>2038995

Addendum, California Station didn't need to be strong in a military sense, it would frequently have UJCIDF or MHM ships present. If the Green Skulls showed up, the Hextarchs would just have to batten down the hatches and scream for help. Consider what the Jaburo on its own did to the Green Skulls, then think about what the Cincinnatus (A-Class Crew, SOUL mecha onboard including S-Lionfish, and unlike the Jaburo not suffering from recent sabotage) could do. With a few Channels for backup Jupiter could go full boot-on-ant to the Green Skulls, the fact that they didn't do this at Suleiman 1 was one of the first suspicious things in this quest.

>>2038834
>>2038846

You're both wrong. California Station isn't loaded with antiship weaponry the way Auditorium and 16-Psyche are, and you need specialized tools for a mech to damage colony hull at all, it's much stronger than a starship. Also venting a colony would be disastrous for your reputation.

>>2038948
>>2038995
>>2039003
>>2039007
>>2039015
Wong... You forgot you trip.

Were you risking being banned by /tg/ mods again?

God damn it /k/ I forgot my trip.

>>2038528
>[Hail the colonies and demand their surrender from your ship]

>>2039048
Oh, I tried to reverse enginner the Morgan & Warmouth I, can I post it here? I based the pattern of choices on the Bluegill and Pumpkinseedm but I would love to know if its anything near what you had in mind for their original stats.

>>2039048
what were you shitpostin about this time?

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I wonder if Wong is about to post 10 pages of word worth of exposition...

...Or if he just got sidetrackted by /k/ again and is going to tell us to go sleep

>>2039107
Bonafide Monafied.

Wait, shit, wrong dialogue string.

>>2039110
Oh Skull... You're pathetic...

>>2039107
Maybe the crypto-facists finally got him

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>>2039110
>>2039163
While we despair, I'll call this out now:
Dawkim is gonna be Guren Lagann meets Hokuto no Ken in Stardust Crusaders with a side of Sidonia to dip in the special SAO sauce of the house.

>>2039180
And thats is exactly why we can't send Mai there.

Wong officially dead.

>>2040717
F

>>2040732
What happens now? Who is the next in the sucession line? Thunder? Or are we a democracy?

>>2040834
Valkyrieanon.
RIP Blitz-chan.

>>2040839
I miss him getting angry at me for calling him "onee-chan", in my heart he will always be my only true onee-sama.