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The sky lights up with the streaking lights of falling pods arcing through the sky as the sound of rolling thunder echos across the open planes from the sonic boom of their breaching the atmosphere, and the force of their impacts. Corvettes begin to follow, shedding transports from their hulls as drones swarm forth from their holds carrying supplies and the seeds of hive infrastructure. Settlers watch with worried anticipation from their homesteads, and in the distance the first hint of a hive ventilation spire breaches the horizon, far enough to give the settlers their claimed space, but still visible, like a hoisted flag declaring who truly owns these worlds. Workers quickly swarm over the few population centers of note, examining the local infrastructure as speakers explain your findings and the proposed improvements as the groundwork of a joint infrastructure is built.

You are still unsure of how the settlers will take to your new rule, and for now you give them space, keeping your hives only close enough to make sure they understand it is your world, and that you allow their presence, but not so close as to begin encroaching upon lands they have claimed for personal use. You suspect that with time, and your rapidly accelerating social influence projects, that they will start to come around to a more amicable demeanor.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>>3008202
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 34,002,853N
Metals: 30,620,392M
Credits: ₡8,752,206
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active Commercial trade routes:
>Leeland – Lanway HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]
Estimated per-day value: ₡2,500,000

Fleet info – [s]We still need to assign designs to the different roles. We can do that later tonight or maybe Monday, but most are obvious enough for me to keep your ships behaving properly.[/s]

[Recon]
[Stealth]
[Boarding]
[Line ship]
[Carrier]
[Artillery]
[Support]
[Picket]

>Income
Metals: 2,952,854 – 2,746,854
Nutrients: 7,636,202 – 7,680,702
Net: 1,005,110

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390

(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total
(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income total
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>>3008202
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>>3008202
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>>3008211
Espionage Activity

Gemini
Agitation – **************_
Suspicion – ***********____
N 48
M 18
Development 70

[Covert Infiltration]
>Beggars and Taidarens
BFI authorities have begun an investigation into possible Hive influence
Resources:
Locally coded holoprinter capable of creating authetnc ID cards for local security: Grants 1 free Professional Equipment supply per day. May be rendered inoperable by counter-intelligence actions.
1 Sleeper Cell within local civilian infrastructure
A high ranking source of information within the governmnet
Close ties with local Taidaren clans

This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is highly irritable and aggressive to Hive influence. All failure and detection chances are increased. Increased rate of psionic resistance in the local populace. Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.
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>>3008222
[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Parliament Building – Unique: The primary seat of Union political authority, this structure organizes the humans and various xeno entities within the Union into a semblance of order, collecting taxes and passing laws, all things the Hive has little need for, but the single-minded cannot function without.
BFI HQ – Unique: The center of Union counter intelligence, the Bureau of Foreign Intelligence is devoted to rooting out espionage across the Union, as well as infiltrating enemy or possibly hostile planets and organizations. Allows recruitment of BFI agents and deployment of espionage cell networks on other planets.
Space Elevator [Under construction] – This space elevator is nearing completion, however political corruption and recent unnatural inclement weather patterns have caused delays.
ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.
Union Customs Authority – Unique: Large scale government oversight of import and export activity creates a demand for a greater level of traffic be diverted through the capital system when dealing with interstellar multi-national corporations so as to allow said corporate travel more rapid movement through local bureaucracy. +2 Commercial Trade Routes
[Detected Economic Activity]
Commercial Trade routes:
Gemini – Librae
Librae – Gemini
Lanway – Gemini

Gemini Beta
[Maintain Concealment]
This is a sparsely populated military world. Low population increases the abilities to conceal a hive, while its large military presence increases the failure rate of operations. This world is under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure rates of attempted actions and operations.
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>>3008230
[Hydra]
Path
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet has been recently struck by interplanetary weapons of mass destruction. The surface is in a state of anarchy with multiple cities suffering grave infrastructure loss. Widespread looting, rioting, and mass crime has broken out and the local authorities are unable to maintain control in many areas. Many authorities have resorted to martial law and summary violence to maintain order, making acts of espionage more risky to the agents involved, but also more easy to avoid Hive implication, greatly reducing Discovery risk but slightly increasing failure chance.

Talgo
Agitation – ********_______
Suspicion – ******_________
[Passive Observation]
Invasive Research

Full infrastructure roster unknown
House of Farmers – A quasi-political branch devoted to expressing the political grievances and interests of the planet's oldest family owned farms which make up the bulk of the planet's traditional economy and consisting of individuals whose lineage is traced back to the founding of the colony. The house has no legally binding power, but motions passed are entered into the record of the local legislature and can have great sway over public opinion, and as such enjoy some level of deference by local politicians, although growing interstellar corporate farm ownership is reducing this influence.
Privatized PDF Militia – The right to bear arms is not only codified in Talgoan law, it is mandatory. All land owning families are required to own and maintain a minimal armament, and are expected to use said armament in the event of invasion. The planet's government maintains very few weapon systems directly, but instead subsidizes local land owners to build and maintain privately owned defensive structures up to and including anti-orbital batteries whose fire-control system is leased to the colonial government, increasing morale of local troops and decreasing upkeep costs of all defensive structures.

Elite Hive Agent Anderson: Spin Doctor – Allows minor passive influence of local politics, increasing or decreasing Agitation or Suspicion by one point per day. Requires at least Covert Infiltration.
This planet is undergoing an infestation from non-native insectoid life forms. Discovery chance is decreased as locals dismiss your flies as part of the infestation, but failure rate is increased as local anti-infestation measures inadvertently kill your drones periodically.
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Aww yeah, so much HQQ I'm going to overdose.
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>>3008235
Coral
Agitation – *******________
Suspicion – **_____________
[Passive Observation]
>Invasive Research

Full infrastructure roster unknown
Deep Ocean research facility – Studies local life forms and environmental history of the planet.
PDF wet navy
Silicate Nature Reserve – Attracts both tourists and scientists to examine the many different species local to the planet, providing a bustling tourist industry and assisting in research of silicate biology.

This planet's native biosphere is silicon based, limiting the capacity for your drones to disguise themselves as native life forms and forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements, increasing detection chances until the local hive grows to a size capable of importing resources or becoming self-sustaining.

[Eridanus]
Huron
Agitation – **_____________
Suspicion – *______________
N 78
M 25
Development 65
[Passive Observation]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Huronese Fishers' Guild – Exclusivity laws and carefully organized mass-branding gives locally caught specimens artificially high value, translating 25% of local N income to Credits.
Island Resort – Strings of small island chains domed against the frequent storms offer mock-traditional entertainment and themed luxury events to the ultra-wealthy, increasing Credit income
Wet Navy – Floating and submersible platforms make up the majority of the planet's anti-orbital battery locations, allowing for the rapid relocation of PDF forces on short notice. Improves firing arcs of anti-orbital weapons.
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>>3008202
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>BFI authorities have begun an investigation into possible Hive influence

Fucking knew it...but that was kinda obvious from the things we caugth from the security circle meeting with Devon, plus the gravitic missiles.
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>>3008240
[Sirius]
Mentan
Agitation – **********_____
Suspicion – _______________
[Passive Observation] – Growing to [Covert Infiltration]

Full infrastructure roster unknown
University of Mentan – Despite the singular name, the University is in fact a corporate conglomerate of multiple colleges devoted to a range of fields of study who have organized into an efficient centeral structure to prevent competition and optimize funding. The Mentan University has become the gold standard of education in known space, with entire planetary districts devoted to facilitating the research of its resident professors and arcologies devoted to housing students and classrooms devoted to specific fields of study. To both encourage a broad spectrum of understanding in students, and to assist the different component colleges, the University encourages, and to some extent requires its students obtain multiple degrees spread across a range of semi-related fields, and does not offer programs for single degree specializations – Recruits Scientists from all owned planets and allows additional research.

Elite Hive Agent Decker: Tech – Is able to gather additional information, reduces detection risk of local espionage.
This planet is currently in a state of mild unrest due to regular protests and small riots regarding upcoming local elections. Such activity is considered normal for the planet's relatively unstable political landscape.
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Arnim
Agitation – **************_
Suspicion – *******________
[Passive Observation] – Growing to [Covert Infiltration]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Central Bank – A conglomeration of private banking entities whose oligopoly of the money lending infrastructure of Union space has resulted in the granting of de facto authority over a large aspect of the Union's monetary policy.
Central Unionized Atemportal Financial Exchange – The central hub of the Union's massive, heavily automated Quantum Comms powered stock exchange network, providing instant economic data to billions, even trillions of investors across known space and facilitating the rapid exchange of quintillions of credits worth of stocks, bonds, debt notes, and other investments related to every conceivable industry.

This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

Hive space: All worlds within Hive territory are able to perform espionage without resource cost, and all actions and operations have a dramatically increased chance of success and decreased odds of detection, but discovery brings with it a much greater risk of major public backlash and public discontent when performing events not linked to counter-intelligence.
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>>3008222
>Agitation – **************_
Only one away from riots.
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>Privatized PDF Militia – The right to bear arms is not only codified in Talgoan law, it is mandatory.

Well now i can only imagine Richardson as the HQQ Kane.
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>>3008258
With so much happening in so little time, the political landscape has shifted rather heavilly. You wonder if your own espionage efforts should shift with them.

>Adjust Espionage policies (write in)
>Maintain them as is
>Other
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>>3008222
>beggars and Taidarens
>BFI authorities have begun an investigation into possible Hive influence

Ummm, maybe we should have them lay low for a while (aside from the mission to help Devon)
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>>3008266
If we upgrade Talgo to Covert Infiltration, Anderson can lower the somewhat high Suspicion stat on that planet.

Perhaps we should put Beggars and Taidarens on pause on Gemini while BFI investigation heat is on, and shrink back to Passive Observation?
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>>3008266
Start working on covering up the parasite thing as discretely as possible. Maybe even mindfuck some BFI agents. If people are feeling bold we could cause world wide riots.
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>>3008260
Both Arnim and Gemini. Wonder what we could do in Arnim to make things more interesting. But maybe we should just keel low and continue our covert operation.
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>>3008266
>>Other
We've never done any Espionage Actions.

Do a Smash an Grab, with the target of getting not only credits but as the bonus equipment, a nerve stapler or two.

After that, then try to stay on the downlow. But we need to better understand the parasite problem we have in order to solve it.
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>>3008281
>>3008268
I agree with that.

>>3008266
>>Adjust Espionage policies (Change Gemini to concealment and have Talgo tranfer into Covert Infiltration)
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>>3008266
Proposals:

>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Decrease Gemini to Concealment (will lose current cultural intel)
>Stop Beggars and Taidarens on Gemini
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
>Do none
>Other (write in)
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>>3008266

>>3008281
>>3008290
Seconding an operation for nerve staplers and upgrading Talgo infiltration for Anderson's bonus, and then putting Gemini to passive. I think that's the right order, I can't imagine getting a stapler would wind up being too noticeable.
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>>3008299
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
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>>3008297
Problem: We can't deal with concealing parasites if we shrink back on Beggars and Taidarens. We need them to do something about the issue.

We can shrink the hive tomorrow. Today we have to act. We can't help Devon if we shrink now.

>>3008284
Jesus it actually went up a lot on Gemini since yesterday.

>>3008299
>>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration

I assume Smash and Grab is mutually exclusive with both stopping Beggars and Taidarens and shrinking.
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>>3008299
>Do none
At this point I stopped caring. We can detonate the parasite before they are found.
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>>3008299
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler

Of course, a stolen stapler right after Jack's conversation is a potentially notable coincidence, if they ever find out.
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Weekly reminder

>Raid OQ
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Board and take over a scav world ship.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>3008299
>>Other (write in)
Deploy espionage drones to Tadega

This is the world where Union records indicate labratory testing of Void shards is still ongoing. If anything funky goes down on this planet we need to know about it IMMEDIATELY.
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>>3008303
>>3008311
Yeah, we'll have to steal lots of drugs at the same time.

But fortunately it can be blamed on the sky-high Agitation on the planet.

I kinda feel like we should have initiated Smash and Grab yesterday in game time desu.
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>>3008290
Yeah but any operations we do will be caugth maybe doing a burn and getting rid of as many agents getting caught would be a good idea.
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>>3008320
A hard second.
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>>3008320
There aint no civilian population on Tadega is there. It's a little high risk to land something there.

As for new espionage planets... well, the gators don't live in the cold waters. They're sensitive and stick to the tropics.
>>3008299
>>Other (write in)
Land a concealment hive in the colder latitudes of Deep Song.
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>>3008320
Tadega is a facility i believe and a military one. So i think that would be in Gemini Beta but as it was said in one of the posts we don't know the complete infrastructure of every world. As far as we know they could be testing the thing on Coral.
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>>3008240
>This planet's native biosphere is silicon based, limiting the capacity for your drones to disguise themselves as native life forms and forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements, increasing detection chances until the local hive grows to a size capable of importing resources or becoming self-sustaining.
Living rock would negate this penalty wouldn't it?
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>>3008299
>Deploy espionage drones to Tadega
>Prefirm Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration.
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>>3008337
actually the rock candy crop I think.
the living stone was more for programming buildings to grow like our creep does
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>>3008299
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
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>>3008299
>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler

Additional proposals:
>Begin espionage on Tadega
>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song
>None
>Other (write in)

>>3008306
Since Gemini is the capital, major events that affect the entire Union will tend to affect Gemini more than normal.
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>>3008333
The file on the void shard being actively tested specified it's location as on the planet Tadega, which is the same world Siener tried to dissect our drones on incidentally.

And just because it's military owned doesn't at all mean we can't infiltrate it. Our pods got in and out of there totally undetected when transporting Sieners severed head.
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>>3008332
Yeah that's not going to work since they will notice the attempt at infiltration. The Valen are paraniod enough to check the poles.
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>>3008306
>Jesus it actually went up a lot on Gemini since yesterday.

The power of having your capital bombarded by gravitic missiles.
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>>3008349
>>Begin espionage on Tadega
>>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song

Oh hell yea, time to figure out how deep the rabbit hole goes fellow thinkers.
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>>3008349
>>Begin infiltration of Deep Song

>>3008356
We had nuclear explosions as a distraction at the time.

Also funny, at the time, players spurned the option to send some drones scurrying into the moutains to hide out on Tadega, and instead evacuated all of them from the planet. Hindsight.
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>>3008356
Fair enough but infiltrating a military base during a time of war will be pretty hard. Maybe we can do that once Union start trying to recruit people?

>>3008349
>Begin espionage on Tadega
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>>3008356
Orbital bombardment tends to hide bright flashes and explosions.
>>3008361
>>3008364
Deep Song infiltration is going to be noticed. THEY WILL CHECK THE POLES
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>>3008211
>You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
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>>3008358
That doesn't make any sense.

And they may look out for any deception, but searching the entire world's freezing cold oceans for something that has never happened before, unlike lying toeach other which happens all the time, is ridiculous sounding.
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>>3008349
>Begin espionage on Tadega

I wonder if it would be possible to just plop an embassy on Deep Song. I figure we'd want one there eventually, but the timing is important.
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>>3008349
>Begin espionage on Tadega
>HELL NO to infiltrating the paraniod Valen
>>3008374
We were told by a BFI agent that the Valen are one of the most paraniod alien out there. You think they won't send robots to check?
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>>3008349
Alright so for confirmation:

>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
>Begin espionage on Tadega

>Y/N?

And because it is contentious, it gets its own confirmation.

>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song

>Yes, infiltrate it
>No, do not
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>>3008382
What would possibly prompt them to check? What would they be checking for? When would covering the entire planet at all times with innumerable patrols of robots, which sounds expensive to maintain, have become a custom of theirs?
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>>3008387
>Y
>DO NOT
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>>3008387
>Y/N?
Y

>Begin infiltration of Deep Song
No, do not
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>>3008387
>>Y

>Yes, infiltrate it
I mean, even if they do find it what are they going to do about it?
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>>3008394
Paranioa and the fact a "meteor" conveniently got past their sensors.
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>>3008387
>>Yes, infiltrate it
At least at [Maintain Concealment] it can remain basically undetectable.
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>>3008387
>Y

>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song


>No, do not

Let's not infiltrate the Valen okay?
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>>3008406
Join the enemy? I don't want to know what paraniod race of warlike carnivorous space snails will do.
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>>3008387
>Y

>No,do not
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>>3008387
>Y

>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song
>No, do not
We need to do something less risky to learn more about infiltration of valens first
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>>3008415
No it won't. Even that is potentially detectable.
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>>3008409
So move from the impact site. Very far away. We landed in a cornfield on Gemini, we can handle landing in ocean wilderness.

There are no craters left or footprints to follow in the oceans.
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>>3008428
I would rather not risk it and have a deeper and better way to infiltrate the Valen. If we offend then and they decide to support the Union we will need to redo all the political stuff we did so far.

Going after their people to have a talk and visit so we can get a look at what they can give us, is a better approach in my opinion.
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>>3008428
>There are no footprints underwater
>Nothing to tie one to a crashsite
>And if you seek evidence of crystals
>All you need is a nerve stapler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvhzIpfqrjI
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>>3008428
The fact there is a "meteor crash" but no meteor is only going to raise suspicions and prompt an through everything. They likely that paraniod.
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>>3008424
I'll join in on the 'more information required' train.
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>>3008438
*an investigation through everything.
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>>3008387
>Y/N?
Yes
>Bagin infiltration of Deep Song
>Yes, infiltrate it
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>>3008438
There are a lot of rocks to sift through and catalog at the bottom of the ocean, and the thing would have drifted in the currents after hitting the surface. How wide an area of rocks would you have to search exhaustively to find one meteor based on where it probably hit the surface?
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>>3008373
Ecks dhee
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>>3008450
It's not like technology is a thing. Am I right?
The Valen have basic shit like sonar and computers. That speeds thing up quite a bit.
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>>3008387
>Y

>Do not

>>3008438
>They expect one of us in the wreckage!

Domain of the Red Queen

[G-426]
Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income: Reduced due to Space City Construction
4.861MN – 2,430,500
112.5KM – 56,250

Defensive structures
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN)
Anti-orbital battery grid – Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Shield Dome Network – Under construction
Spore Caster Network – Under construction
Military structures
Hangar facilities – Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
Psionic Shroud – Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Capillary Tower – (25,000N)
Smart Mines active – Calculates development stat twice for metal income
Algae Farm – +25N
Film harvester dock – +15N

Asteroid mining base [Depleted]
This hollow asteroid provides an excellent location to construct a Space City at low cost.

Asteroid belt
M 57
A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base in the process of conversion to a Space City.

Gas giant
A hydrogen gas giant that contains a bounty of usable gas fuel, such as tritium and hydrogen for FTL navigation and fusion power generation, making it a common pit stop for passing hive fleet patrols. Research on methods of further exploitation of its atmosphere is underway.

>P1
N 0
M 75
Development 1+
Income:
0 N
75 M

>P2
N 75
M 21
Development 1+
Income:
N 75
M 21

>P3
N 24
M 7
Development 1+
Income:
24 N
7 M
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>>3008438
Okay even i have to admit we would have to roll pretty low or the Valens would have to roll pretty high to figure that out.
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[Dagmar]
Kaltara
N 0
M 100
Development 20
Pop 0

Income:
0 N
2 KM

This planet's small corporate population has evacuated with the Union forces, taking what supplies they can and leaving the rest.

Economic Structures
Magma wells – Mostly automated magma pumps extract liquid metal resources from subterranean volcanic rivers for further filtration and refining, Allows extraction of resources relative to Development without a civilian population center. [offline]
PDF Field repair depot – The remains of a military facility devoted to the assembly of field repair kits and equipment for local military forces. [ruined and offline]

Gibson
Nitrogen ice giant with a a number of resource rich rings

>Gibson Station
A mostly automated mining facility, the station has been evacuated and stripped of most of its equipment. What remains is a large, yet empty husk of a refining facility, little more than the rough equivalent to an empty parking garage stripped of all valuables, but the husk itself would make it more easy to construct a larger and more dedicated mining facility in the form of a Space City in the otherwise dangerous construction site of the planet's rings.
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>>3008473
[Koenig]
Accretion disc
N 15
M 30
A large field of asteroids, gas, and small dust particulate combined into a thick soup of exploitable resources.

Calpamos
N N/A
M N/A
Development [Unavailable]
This hydrogen gas giant provides a bounty of water and hydrogen to fuel passing starships, and was the last stop of most evacuating fleets as they left the Expanse during sovereignty transfer. The planet has three moons, each of them habitable to some degree.

>Calpamos Station
A station tethered to the local gas giant linking to gas mining facility within the upper atmosphere. Most of the facility has been abandoned, scrapped, or otherwise rendered inoperable due to the rapid evacuation of local Union and corporate entities. Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.
>Hub
[Orbital Anchor]
1 Logistics Trade Route
1 Trade Route
5 Development
>Wards
[Customs] + Trade income
[Trade Port X2] +2 Trade Route
[Frontier Outpost] Increases Pop migration from overpopulated human worlds to worlds in local system Union only
[Barracks] Increases security, station weapons, and allows use of gunships
[Union Post Center] Reduces costs of shipping infrastructure in local system Union only
>Utility Wards
[Merchant Docks] +1 Commercial Trade Route
[Corporate Field office] Van Den Broek Superluminal Closed
[Rest Stop] +5 pop cap
[Slipway] +10 Pylons
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>>3008464
Fucking well Leeland gonna have so much Dakka that no one will even try to poke that place.
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Acheron
N 34
M 23
Development 5
Agitation ******_________
Suspicion ***********____
>Mother Knows Best
A small number of frontier settlers have begun initial terraforming efforts. Few have evacuated, and many seem to be forming village militias to establish an ad hoc planetary defense force. Whether this militia is intent on resisting hive rule, or accepting hive sovereignty is yet to be determined, but they have made no overtly hostile gestures yet beyond the acts of entrenching their homesteads and looting the local armory.

Income:

Deckard's Claim:
N 65
M 22
Development 15
Agitation ************___
Suspicion ********_______
>Mother Knows Best
The planet consists of a number of small farming camps built around a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave. While many did, public discontent is running high, and while many seem to believe the recent events to be Lord Deckard's rather over-zealous way of retaining power under a new government, some believe there to be some foul play at work on the Hive's part. Either way, the population of just over a hundred thousand is growing increasingly at one anther's throats over the matter.

Djin
N 15
M 11
Development 0
The planet is under a mandatory general evacuation order from the Union, and Union marines have forcibly removed the remaining scientists and miners on the surface under the claim of a possible disease outbreak, transferring the small population of several thousand to a number of military hospitals at undisclosed locations for observation under short term quarantine.
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>>3008470
The Union isn't even the "paraniod and psionic" faction and they're good at figuring shit out. So I'm willing to expect some outlandish jumps in logic from the Valen.
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[New Port]
Callahan
A hydrogen gas giant with multiple layers of rings and small dwarf planetoids of irregular shape containing sources of metal, water, and frozen gases, and was previously a major refueling station for corporate and merchant fleets.

Callahan Station
A sizable industrial facility devoted to organizing mining drones and facilitating repair and refuel of passing commercial ships. The station is mostly offline, and only a small skeleton crew remain to keep it in orbit as the owning corporation attempts to determine the state of the Hive economy.

Asteroid belt
N 0
M 22
A moderately rich belt containing precious and heavy metals

Bedrock
Agitation *********______
Suspicion ******_________
>Mother Knows Best

>Hub
[Promenade]
3 Trade Routes
70 Pop Cap
20 Pylons
1 Megacorp HQ [Rutherford Industries Extraction and Assembly Inc.] Closed
Exploits all local tourist attractions at normal value
>Wards
[Sprawl X2] +40 Cop Cap
[Customs]
[Trade Port]
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Red Light District] +20 Dev score applied only to credit income, decreases detection risk of espionage activity, cannot be built, has a chance to grow in empty Ward slots when Pop Cap is above 100

This colony is suffering from widespread panic, dramatically lowering detection chances of espionage agents, but making the results of operations far more unpredictable, and making gathered data unreliable.

Darwin
N 88
M 25
Development 1 – Growing indefinitely until halted
Income:
88 N
25 M
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>>3008461
That still doesn't add up to enough for the sheer scale of the problem. Sonar doesn't have limitless range at the accuracy and level of detail they'd need to say "been here a while" vs "brand new." So many robots sweeping over leagues and leagues of rocks. Endless rocks.

And that's ignoring the last null hypothesis, that the meteor just plain burned up in entry and was dust and ash on the wind by the time it hit the ocean. That happens all the time.
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>>3008493
[Juric]
Brandenburg

Billiard
N 21
M 0
Development 0
>Mother Knows Best

This planet is currently settled by nomadic gas harvesters

>Norfolk
N 12
M 28
Development 0
A corporate 'shake and bake' colony devoted to terraforming, the corporate sponsors have pulled out, and evacuated the small population of engineers on the surface, leaving the planet a barren rock as they found it.

[Telarum]
Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost

[Sentinel]
Sentinel Post
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>>3008493
Right we need to plan some expeditions to search Darwin.
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>>3008485
Oh yeah need to investigaye Deckard Claim since the Eco-terrorist group has a compound there.

Lyle wanted to go to a more civilized place? Now he can go there and take Dillon and Jackob with him.
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>>3008495
[Tannhauser/Kerik Ashka]
Aral
N 48
M 65
Development 0
This planet's population consists only of Valen construction workers applying the finishing touches to the Tannhauser hypergate. No permanent settlement exists, and no effort to extract local resources had been made.

>Tannhauser Gate [Valen Controlled]
>Ward
[Hypergate] Allows hypergate travel
>Wards
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Traffic Control] Improves traffic capacity of Hypergate
[Merchant Guild office] Valen only
[Trade Port X2]

Debris field
M 89
The remains of the Skyl homeworld, the field holds a wealth of minerals, ice, and metals.
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[The Garden/Wayward Hope]
Barren rock
N 0
M 3
Development 0

Asteroid belt
A small belt of asteroids in a semi stable orbit arround the star holding some amount of precious metals.

Raligha
N 90+50
M 10
Development 25

Income:
3.5MN + 1.75MN
250M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital battery grid (8KN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: Bio-engineered native super-crop offers easily maintained farmland tended by both drone workers and native ralighans +30N
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, +50% N income
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day, allows recruitment of Ralighan Elite Agents.

Ice Giant
A super-massive ice giant mostly composed of inert gasses with few usable resources.
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>>3008503
Oh right. We should formally colonize Kerik Ashka. That was an oversight.

We can visit the Valen pools and offer complimentary additional organs as a traditional interspecies greeting gift.
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>>3008494
Fair points but I'm still assuming that the Valen are still pretty jumpy and paraniod enough to check and you're assuming there is nobody at the poles (which I doubt).
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>>3008480
I wasn't exaggerating when I mentioned that Leeland is one of the best defended planets in the universe in the last thread.

>>3008473
I can't remember if we agreed to, but we're totally mining Kaltara for all it's worth right now, right?
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>>3008509
[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
N 20
M 1
Development 0
A small frozen planet covered in various forms of ice

Binary volcanic planets
V1
N 0
M 100
Development: 1+
V2
N 0
M 100
Development: 1+
Income:
200

Barren radioactive planet
N 0
M 6
Development 0
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>>3008499
We should probably send normal human clones. Because this is a place with artifacts and we need to watch out after what happend in P2
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>>3008518
The best defended place in the universe is the ball people's homeworld.
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[Desmond]
Accretion disc
N 23
M 35
A thin ring of stellar debris orbiting the two native stars containing a microbial substance able to feed on local metals

Pegasean Gas Giant
Advertised as “the Inferno” by the travel agency organizing the local band performance, this giant is unusable for resources due to the simple fact that it is endlessly engulfed in flames, a fact that makes it useless for mining, but quite attractive to tourists visiting the orbiting Space City

>Builder's Gift
>Hub
[Presidium]
>Wards
[Zoological Reserve]
[Zoological Resort]
[Inferno Resort]
[Thermal Regulator]
[2 Trade ports]

>P1
N 0
M 0
Development 0
A small frozen ball of ice and rock

>P2
N 15
M 26
Development 1+
Income:
15 N
26 M
A primordial world with a thin atmosphere and high levels of oxygen, as well as geological activity and a surface covered in shallow pools of a strange animated liquid carbon substance.

Asteroid belt
N 16
M 5
A sparse field containing a small amount of metals, but mostly ice and rocks.

Ice planet
N 7
M 2
Development 0
A small planet on the edge of the system containing mostly ice and negligible sources of metals.
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>>3008516
Why don't we let the valen have it or at least a part? Show that we're willing to share and all that, we can also make a cool space city connected to a capillary tower on it offering access to the hypergate network.
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>>3008518
It says
>2 KM

But it is missing mantle mining. The nanomachines aren't earning their keep.
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>>3008521
These are likely Skyl/Hive collaborative stuff.
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>>3008529
[Wonder]
Debris field
A thick and widespread layer of micro-particles and debris spread across the system, granting a penalty to the ability of ships within to dodge incoming attacks.

Ancient Dockyard
The site of the Builder's ancient laboratories and experimental shipyards, now little more than a vast tombstone marking her passing. The massive structure could be easily and cheaply retrofitted with your own advanced construction techniques to create a space city.

[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]

[Refuge] – The Scarred Queen
An unusually dense and reflective ort cloud makes it unusually difficult to accurately blink deep into the system and disrupting sensors attempting to penetrate the cloud.

Frozen metallic world
N 5
M76
Development 0

Rocky temperate world
N 52
M 35
Development 0

Binary moons
>P1
N 5
M 20

>P2
N 12
M 24

>Forest Moon
N 78
M 13
Development 15

Defensive Structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors placed across the planet's surface capable of targeting orbiting enemy vessels in conjunction with additional anti-orbital weapon systems.
Anti-orbital battery grid – Under construction
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Under construction
Temple of the Unseen – A grand temple devoted to the Matron Queens, the gods of the Phantoms, tended to at all times by the planet's most revered elder matrons and patriarchs, they focus their abilities in tandem through the temple as an amplifier, projecting a blurred sense of incomprehension over the planet's surface, preventing enemy forces from accurately bombarding surface targets during combat. Requires a native Phantom population, and allows recruitment of Phantom Elite Agents.

Military Structures
Hangar Facilities – 50% replenished
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>>3008531
They don't want it. They never wanted it. It is dry and miserably oceanless and they probably hate it very much.
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>>3008541
We haven't had this in a while

Finished Research
>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
More a matter of careful practice than deliberate scientific discovery, careful examination of the interaction between tachyonic waves and the neurological activity of living beings has lead to the improvement of your psionic imprinting, allowing for the standard effects to be applied to a target at up to 20 meters with a direct line of sight, or 10 meters without a line of sight, even through solid objects. In addition, willing minds who accept the imprinting of the hive's mind upon their own can receive or transmit information as if connected to the hive network directly, including sensory information. The effects become more potent at shorter ranges, and within 5 meters, the hive may attempt to force the Queen's will upon an unwilling or unaware target, briefly commandeering the target's somatic nervous system, or enforcing a potent but simple delusion or compulsion, so long as it is in some way within the individual's capacity to do and is not too far outside the individual's character. Such internally conflicting orders grant the target a much higher chance of resisting the psionic imprint, while imprints that are more in line with the target's normal thoughts and actions are more likely to suceed.

>Psionic Spores
By improving the hive's spores to be psionically conductive, not only can they be used to spread hive creep via airborne means and attack enemies with toxins, but they also now become a potent psionic medium for the hive network, extending the range of any relay to include any area covered with the same contiguous spore cloud. In addition the cloud serves to amplify existing psionic abilities, meaning any range-limited psionic powers are removed against targets that have inhaled or are otherwise are effected by the spores. Inhaling the spores also provides direct effects to a living creature, as the psionic spores influence the target's nervous system, temporarily connecting the individual to the hive network. While this connection does not offer direct control over the individual, the hive may use this connection as a substitute for a medium or advanced relay, so long as a basic relay or other hive network connection is within range. In addition, Psion agents who inhale the spores enjoy a drastic improvement in their abilities for a short duration, although using the spores in this way for extended periods at its full potential is taxing to the body and mind.
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>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
While gas giants have been colonized by the single-minded using small, roving airship settlements for many generations, these small, often makeshift mobile structures are not capable of economic scale production, and thus despite being a decent choice for non-hive settlers living in small numbers, are not economically viable for a hive's more efficient industrial scale organization. In response to this, research has been done to produce far larger city-sized mega-structures held within the upper atmosphere of a gas giant consisting of interconnected floating platforms in which all manner of planetary infrastructure can be built. With this technology, gas giants can now be more properly surveyed and colonized on a large scale. A gas giant's Development score will represent the construction of these platforms spread across the planet and connected via cables supported by floating way stations as needed, providing places for both non-hive life to live, and room to build planetary facilities.

New Research Available

>Neural Reconfiguration
Medium
The potent abilities of your psionics and the precise and efficient capacity of your biological medical technology has begun to merge more fully, blurring the line between where one ends and the other begins. As a result of this, your thinkers have conceived of the possible ability to utilize very short range tachyon micro-pulses in order to use psionics to examine, rearrange, or remove aspects of an individual's memories without the use of an invasive parasite or other neural connection.

Current Research
Your thinkers assemble themselves to focus on a number of different research topics, allowing you to choose one as your primary topic, and two as secondary research projects. The primary research project will receive three rolls per day for progress, while secondary projects receive two. In addition to your thinkers, you may gain additional research rolls from other sources. Vassal Hives shall offer their own thinkers to you as tribute and non-hive allies specialized in research all can be used to run their own Auxiliary research projects, granting one roll per day each. Multiple Auxiliary rolls can be assigned to the same research subject, and if left alone, will choose a topic of their own interest. A vassal hive may research anything, while non-hive allies possess specializations in their fields of study, and offer special bonuses when researching subjects in their fields.

Additional rolls can be purchased from external sources through trade or political treaties with Theseus and other factions. Such external rolls can be assigned to any research project, including your Primary or Secondary projects, and all participating factions will receive the research upon its completion.
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>>3008557
Current Research
Your thinkers assemble themselves to focus on a number of different research topics, allowing you to choose one as your primary topic, and two as secondary research projects. The primary research project will receive three rolls per day for progress, while secondary projects receive two. In addition to your thinkers, you may gain additional research rolls from other sources. Vassal Hives shall offer their own thinkers to you as tribute and non-hive allies specialized in research all can be used to run their own Auxiliary research projects, granting one roll per day each. Multiple Auxiliary rolls can be assigned to the same research subject, and if left alone, will choose a topic of their own interest. A vassal hive may research anything, while non-hive allies possess specializations in their fields of study, and offer special bonuses when researching subjects in their fields.

Additional rolls can be purchased from external sources through trade or political treaties with Theseus and other factions. Such external rolls can be assigned to any research project, including your Primary or Secondary projects, and all participating factions will receive the research upon its completion.

+++Primary
>Empty

++Secondary
>Empty
>Empty

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
>Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Empty

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Silicate Computing
Medium
A far cry from the rudimentary silicon computer chips of the single-minded, proper silicate computing seems to comprise of a sentient or near-sentient mind on a similar level to that of a hive thinker housed within an efficient solid state slab of living silicate flesh using the DNA analog mesh it is composed of as circuitry. The power efficiency is near perfect, allowing it to function as its own battery for extended periods of time while giving off almost no waste heat. Despite being entirely at odds with your own biology, Theseus claims his recent study of hive biology seems to 'click' when compared to this new technology, granting some manner of epiphany into the silicate research you seem to have missed. [Research speed increased]
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>>3008518
I don't remember anythi g about Kaltran but we should colonize Aral and start to build a space city or something else to mine the asteroid field.
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>>3008517
I mean in theory maybe some weirdo hermit Santa Claus Valen is holed up there in his deep ocean facility but the pastebin notes

> less due to necessity and more due to valen physiology being overly sensitive to even the slightest cold, preferring year long tropical climates.
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>>3008547
>>Psionic Spores
>By improving the hive's spores to be psionically conductive, not only can they be used to spread hive creep via airborne means and attack enemies with toxins, but they also now become a potent psionic medium for the hive network, extending the range of any relay to include any area covered with the same contiguous spore cloud. In addition the cloud serves to amplify existing psionic abilities, meaning any range-limited psionic powers are removed against targets that have inhaled or are otherwise are effected by the spores. Inhaling the spores also provides direct effects to a living creature, as the psionic spores influence the target's nervous system, temporarily connecting the individual to the hive network. While this connection does not offer direct control over the individual, the hive may use this connection as a substitute for a medium or advanced relay, so long as a basic relay or other hive network connection is within range. In addition, Psion agents who inhale the spores enjoy a drastic improvement in their abilities for a short duration, although using the spores in this way for extended periods at its full potential is taxing to the body and mind.

>That feeling when you've just realized you've created a terrifying bio-weapon of mass destruction

It's been too long since I felt that in this quest.
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>>3008543
Space Capillary tower city it is!
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>>3008540
Yeah but you never know. I just don't want to risk what happend last thread.
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>>3008564
Available Research Options

>Silicate hybrid study
Slow
This obelisk remains would seem to be composed of semi-organic psionically conductive carbon polymer fused with a silicate genetic lattice, in effect making it a kind of hybrid between two, as yet diametrically opposed forms of life. A detailed study is required to determine its qualities with any certainty, but its nature is truly confounding.

>Living Stone
Medium
Structures made of living silicate matter has never occured to you, but it makes sense, as despite being applied to the natural inverse of organic life, it would seem to apply similar benefits to any structure using the material. All the same, you are not by far not an expert on silicate life forms, and anything it the field will be difficult to make headway with.

>Silicate Defenders dissection
Medium
A clearly artificially designed silicon based life form, this devout defender is capable of projecting hardlight constructs in battle, as well as possessing multiple blasters within its body. Its internal organs are arranged in a gyroscope, allowing for rapid movement with or without the use of its projected limbs. In many ways, they seem almost purpose built for countering traditional hive tactics and weaponry.

>Multidimensional Physics
Slow/Slightly dangerous
Until now you have been entirely ignorant to the workings of the Void and the self proclaimed gods that rule this mysterious space. Now you realize some semblance of the truth, although any proper understanding comes with its own inherent risks of attracting unwanted attention, such understanding, you realize now, was the backbone of the galaxy spanning civilization of the ancient Hives of the Golden Age, long before the Schism began. Regaining such lost knowledge would be a great step towards rebuilding your race as the galactic superpower it once was.

>Non-euclidean Architecture
Very Slow/Dangerous
The basis of the very crystal you now posses, as well as the hostile Void Shards, the process of compressing spacetime along the axis of a fourth spacial dimension is a key component to many technological devices of the Ancients in their prime. Such technologies explain the process by which the void shards function, as well as allow for the vast complexity of the memory archive you hold, compressing vast amounts of energy and matter into a pocket space where such terms are interchangeable and largely meaningless.
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>>3008578
>Psionic Thought Construction
Very Slow
The brief understanding granted to you by your examination of the contents of the white crystal given to you by your late mother, you realize that tachyons, like nearly any other form of particle, can be used in the construction of physical objects. Such constructs are inherently unstable outside of the multidimensional space of the Void, however, but allow for the construction machines of immeasurable complexity with relatively little effort by constructing them in a space where thoughts can be projected as concrete materials.

>Empathetic Compulsion
Slow
A step further from the disruption of the nervous system, with additional fine tuning it may be possible to exert some limited control over an individual mind without the use of direct contact.

Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
Medium
Using a mixture of space station technology and modified, miniaturized capillary towers, it may be possible to create semi-permanent or fully permanent hives within the upper atmospheres of gas giants, where a mixture of atmospheric static, wind farming, and gas mining can provide a more constant and bountiful resource income while providing a more robust frame with which to construct infrastructure.

>Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.

>Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.
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It's time.

Primary
>>Silicate hybrid study
Secondary
>Silicate Defenders dissection
>Neural Reconfiguration
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>>3008587
>Primary
>>>Silicate hybrid study
>Secondary
>>Silicate Defenders dissection
>>Neural Reconfiguration
I'll second this.
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>>3008587
I'm not sure he's even done posting yet.
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>>3008570
You mean another one? Now imagine mixing our creep with those mind controlling spores from our world.

Or did we do that already?
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>>3008564
Oh hey theseus crit on his computing research, sweet.

Can I make a motion to colonize the gas giant in our home system? It has existing stations around it we could use to make it faster probably
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>>3008584
>Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

>Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

>Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.

>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Data decryption
Medium (Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
While much of the data within the Smith mind was corrupted during the experimental extraction process or the trauma of the agent's death, there is still a good deal of encrypted data still intact. The data itself could be anything, from a revolutionary discovery to the agent's personal preference in music, or anything between. There is now way to know without decryption of the data, and the total randomness of the mystery has your thinkers begging to go to work.
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>>3008598
>Planetary Shielding
Slow
By adding further scale to the shield dome, it is believed that an overlapping network of shields can be expanded from a series of clustered protective areas defending a planet's critical infrastructure to a vast, near total coverage shield stretching entire continents so as to protect a planet's biosphere and widespread population in addition to its military and industrial zones.

>Psionic Cannon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.

You have empty research slots

>Add research (write in)
[Primary]
[secondary X2]
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>>3008587
>>3008589
easy giys there is more on the list.
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>>3008598
>>Data decryption
>Medium (Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
Is there no way we can research this, even if slowly, along with another subject with Theseus? I don't think we'll ever get a chance to research this if we can only pick three subjects at a time.
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>>3008479
>Calpamos
>N N/A
>M N/A
>Development [Unavailable]

>Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.

Not anymore it's not.
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I say we get those personal shields! Would really make our children really fuck shit up.
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>>3008604
>Primary
>>Silicate hybrid study

>Secondary
Memory Seed
Gas Giant construction
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>>3008604

Primary
>Silicate hybrid study
Secondary
>Silicate Defenders dissection
>Neural Reconfiguration

Actually, have live lithovores arrived at the Zoological Reserve yet
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>>3008604
Primary
>Silicate hybrid study
Secondary
>Silicate Defenders dissection
>Neural Reconfiguration

I want the new stuff my dudes.
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>>3008604
>Add research (write in)
[Primary]
>Silicate hybrid study

[secondary x2]
>Personal shielding
>Silicate Defenders dissection
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>>3008604
Primary
>silicate hybrid study

Secondary
>Personal shielding
>Silicate defenders dissection

And QD can we colonize that gas giant in our system using our existing orbital stations there?
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>no one wants to research the thing that was created to counter hive tactics even with us possibly bei g even more close to have to face worst aunt soon.
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How do we greentext vote again?
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>>3008615
It and Swarm Drive Tuning are superb passive buffs to our military power, we should definitely get them before we go full space war. That said, silicate technology is something we need more know how of for... planetary control reasons.

>>3008604
Primary
>Silicate Hybrid Study

Secondary
>Silicate Defenders dissection
>Personal shielding
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Secondary
Personal shielding
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>>3008604
>Primary
>>Silicate hybrid study
Secondary
>Silicate Defenders dissection
>Personal Shielding

>Y/N?


>>3008628
Yes, I'll lump them in to your other silicate dissection project since they are both silicates, and the comparison of the Defenders to the living organisms should help you with your research.
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>>3008648
>>3008656
click the post number to reply to people specifically

use > to green text like
>this
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>>3008656
Put a ">" Next to your vote

>testing
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>>3008661
>Y
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>>3008661
>Y
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>>3008661
Is Coral's operation Invasive Research counting as dissection of yet other silicates for comparison?
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>>3008661

>Y
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>>3008661
>Y

Titan-kun can finnaly have shield. It will be a glorious day!
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>>3008598
Huh i just realized:
Our spores can act like a relay, couple that with psionic Thermokinesis and any invading force that gets our spores on them will be vulnerable to being exploded in a fireball.
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>>3008661
>>Y
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>>3008661
>>Y/
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>>3008661
>Y
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>>3008677
ganbare titan kun
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>>3008547
>>Psionic Spores
>By improving the hive's spores to be psionically conductive, not only can they be used to spread hive creep via airborne means and attack enemies with toxins, but they also now become a potent psionic medium for the hive network, extending the range of any relay to include any area covered with the same contiguous spore cloud. In addition the cloud serves to amplify existing psionic abilities, meaning any range-limited psionic powers are removed against targets that have inhaled or are otherwise are effected by the spores. Inhaling the spores also provides direct effects to a living creature, as the psionic spores influence the target's nervous system, temporarily connecting the individual to the hive network. While this connection does not offer direct control over the individual, the hive may use this connection as a substitute for a medium or advanced relay, so long as a basic relay or other hive network connection is within range. In addition, Psion agents who inhale the spores enjoy a drastic improvement in their abilities for a short duration, although using the spores in this way for extended periods at its full potential is taxing to the body and mind.
Haha, time for TYRANIDS
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>>3008681
Exploded into a fireball or instantly freezed into a popsicle!
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>>3008661
>Y

Writing (and also the delivery guy is at the door, one sec)

>>3008672
It may lead to helping your research in time, yes.
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>>3008681
But anon, you could go two steps further.
Silent instantaneous pyrokenesis at any percentage of global saturation desired.

Any invasion would be too dead too fast to feel regret.
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>>3008547
>extending the range of any relay to include any area covered with the same contiguous spore cloud.

So, what does it take to produce spores in mid battlefield. We have never had a specific adaptation for 'produce spores.'

These psionic spores allow maintaining contact even under psionic jamming. We need spore producers flooding the battlefield when doing such an op against OQ if we activate the jammer. Can it just be assumed we have that capability at all times?
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I just realized the psionic spores may actually save our operations on Gemini.
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>to spread hive creep via airborne means and attack enemies with toxins,
>attack enemies with toxins,
>having our creep pouring that cordyceps spore on OQ planet or drones or even into the scavs.
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>>3008714
We could probably just coat the back of our drones with creep and have them be like fungal offgrowths. Everywhere the drones go some spores are let off (like orks in 40k) and when the creep develops in the area passed through it'll create spores of its own.
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>>3008661
Hey QD, how does something like personal shielding affect our actual rolls? Especially in large scale combat scenarios?
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Guys you are missing the most important use of psionic spores.
LIMITLESS RANGE PSIONIC IMPRINTING
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>>3008723
Well, slipping spores into unknown BFI agents' drinks would be nice but we don't know where or who the agents assigned to the case are.
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>>3008723
Yeah but we will need ask permission tot he humans to use our spores to counter OQ spores. Which if everything goes as bad as it might go to the search teams we might actualy need to use our spores for the first time.
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>>3008731
>cordyceps

Oh I have an evil plan. That silicate biology is not compatible with normal hive lifeforms right?

So if we make a cordycep silica hybrid we could probably bypass obsidians drones immune systems and just neural spike them into slavery.
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>>3008738
All dose adoptees.
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>>3008738
Its range is still limited to how close you can get a small drone with a basic relay to the target.

Which is pretty close to unlimited for most ordinary people yeah.

Now if we could make small drones also PRODUCE the spores...
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>>3008742
Maybe? Imean when the drone ate the alien cordyceps he was unpluged from our control and it wasn't silicate at the time.

Maybe we can change it or mix into the creep and male so our creep spore has a way to "mind jack" some drones.
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>>3008760
Why make the drones produce spores?
Just grow a thin layer of spore producing hive creep on their back, like a layer of moss.
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>>3008760
I mean Obisidian Queen managed to male her drones and ships produce the spores. That was how she did against Barren Queen and Theseus dropping ships to reach the surface so her spore would make to the planet.
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>>3008738
You still have to roll for imprinting. That is a lot of chances to fail.

But there's perpetual, constant, low level surface thought and intent reading, risk free.

>>3008764
That's the same thing anon. That's the same thing. One isn't any harder or easier than the other. Hive infrastructure is just drones all the way down.
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>>3008738
I cannot wait to unleash this on some fools.

>>3008742
Given that nothing, absolutely nothing sends Hive Queens into frothing bouts of uncontrolled rage like having their children forcibly stolen from them by their rivals, I support this endeavor fully.
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>>3008764
I think he is trying to steal OQ idea and when our drones get killed they will work as a area denial effect creating creep on a planet so we can have a beach landing for our troops and estructures.

>tfw one more step closer to make blood rain into our enemies
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>>3008774
Well if the organism has our psionics as part of it, we could even use the thermo tech when we eventually get it to make the infected into suicide troopers, who when they explode spread more cordy spores.
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>>3008708

The first of your guests are beginning to arrive at Builder's Gift, a trickle of early arrivals from the closest of the Union worlds. Corvette sized passenger liners begin to fill your city's docks, and your speakers gleefully greet them as they disembark. Many are confused at your lack of paperwork, but you note that over time they seem to get used to having every host know them by name without any need for passports or visas. Your drones make a token effort to appease the typical expectations, stamping the presented Union passports with your stylized adopted symbol.

Already your many restaurants, bars, and stores are filling with traffic. Like your drones, you find that humans tend to enjoy sweet things, although taidaren have a more... savory palate. In fact, they are exceptionally efficient to feed, as anything that may somehow spoil can simply be sold to taidaren visitors.

You are already collecting a wide range of data regarding cultural norms and societal expectations. While you were able to prepare well enough, you still lack some of the more high class 'exotic' features some visitors seem to expect. Those of a higher level of sophistication than the typical metal-head seem disappointed when they realize you have no cultural cuisine or traditional music of your own, but as you continue to gather data, that may soon change. As it is, your food's naturally high sugar content has made your local candy shops more popular, offering especially orders custom made in a range of flavors from white, rose, and salted dark chocolates.

cont
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>but you note that over time they seem to get used to having every host know them by name without any need for passports or visas.

Well that ain't scary at all...
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>>3008825
Huh, I guess we could make the best candy shops. Spore laced chocolate with extra goodness in every bite.
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>>3008825
>bugs making chocolate

heh
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>>3008838
We could make a special spore flavor just for our psionically awakened children! Psionic cordyceps are so much more useful than regular cordyceps.
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>no cultural cuisine or traditional music of your own

What kind of Music would a Hivemind enjoy?

>offering especially orders custom made in a range of flavors from white, rose, and salted dark chocolates.
>range of flavors from white, rose, and salted dark chocolates.
>salted dark chocolates.
Oh queenie you are so cheeky
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>>3008825
I mean, we sooooorta have cultural cuisine, it's just all very basic and sweets focused.

As for music...I mean, we're a hive mind, but I gotta imagine there's something out there that's at least kinda pleasing to us.
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>>3008838
>>3008841
I'm telling you guys either candy or pasteries. Time to open the Hive Bakery goods!

So sweet you will want more!
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>>3008825
We should stock it with the rock sugar
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>>3008852
It's ominous chanting of drones yelling that they are doing things For Mother! That's music to queenies ears.
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>>3008849
Probably something similar to the hum and buzz of hive communication. So nothing that has to much of a beat, like drums. Im thinking something like a violin,; an uninterpreted note that fluctuates all over the place that fluctuates.
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>>3008857
Oh or even better yet: "As sweet as a Mother's love!"

>>3008852
Hive chocolate factory when?
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>>3008852
I mean, there's probably a genre of music the queen and hive enjoys. We just haven't been exposed to much besides taidaren music which we heard through a clones ears, making it real grating.
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>>3008868
I hate to say if, but if you're talking buzz, something dubstepish or heavy electronica might be nice. Maybe industrial?
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>>3008865
>>3008868
I get it! Lyle said the hibe sounded like one of those christmas special right? So what kind of music is that?
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>hive's favorite music
>not drone

Come on now.
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>>3008868
>>3008876
Nah man, you want blues and the saxophone.
We are the last independent Hive in existence, or well, of the last lineage anyway.
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>>3008825
>traditional music of your own
Okay they've heard other species' music before, they gotta know it's almost entirely miserable to human ears.

But they want to suffer anyway.
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>>3008876
What I meant to say was that the music would mimic the psionic communication of the hive, not the sonic noise our hive makes. The sonic noise has what you said. I suppose a better way to describe what I mean could be something like humming, a raise and fall in pitch, similar to a violin.
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>>3008852
There's the ambient rhythm of the pulsing heartbeat of a planetwide hive.

The ASMR inspiring noise of hive creep spreading and sprouting across the ground.

The chorus of Thinkers thinking "RESEARCH UNLOCKED!"
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Although I can totally see our speakers doing Korean pop.
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>>3008886
apparently Valen isn't, it just sounds like a Organ
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>>3008885
Other instruments can convey sadness, melancholy, nostalgia and the like. I still think something like a violin would be the best all around bet. While a drone playing the saxophone amuses me somthin fierce, I like the mental image of a drone somberly holding a violin and using its legs to to carefully play it in ways no human ever could.
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>>3008852
Pretty sure the Hive likes metal actually.

related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg6tI3MJPLk
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>>3008903
It wouldn't really be "traditional" though, we're not old enough to have traditions and the old hives didn't have such customs for us to pretend they were ours.

Same for the food, I guess that's what happens when it's all work and no play.
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>>3008903
Or maybe pull like, a grasshopper thing and use our own bodies to play it.
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>>3008825
Beyond your space city, beyond your borders, your fleets ready the last leg of their journey, and on the outskirts of Aquarius spacetime tears asunder with a sudden thunderclap of radiation, like a flickering star in the night sky of the local worlds. The tear widens, yawning open so expel its contents as an armada of hive vessels drift out from the funnel of energetic quantum chaos as bolts of electrical discharge leap between your ships and the rim of the spacial rift. As the ships fully emerge, their formations tightening for interplanetary navigation, the rift seals behind them with a flash of electromagnetic energy likely picked up on every radio in the system, and your fleet accelerates together towards the planet of Fairweather.

The arrival does not go unnoticed, as picket fleets shift in their orbits and local traffic control diverts civilian vessels away from your path, providing your fleet with a direct course to orbit, without even the pretense of giving directional orders from orbital traffic control.

You watch the system's broadcast streams as footage of your arriving fleet is shown from the surface as countless dots flicker above with the faint outlines of your capital ships glowing in the night sky as their drive wings cool from their rapid deceleration like burning crescent shaped knives and their ventilation ducts trail coolant like the smokestacks of a great steamboat.

Finally, you receive a transmission offering clearance to land, designating an entire parade ground along the lower terraces of Castle Reuenthal as the landing point.

>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
>Land a corvette with your ambassadors and a massive drone force
>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
>Other
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>>3008222
>Locally coded holoprinter capable of creating authetnc ID cards for local security: Grants 1 free Professional Equipment supply per day. May be rendered inoperable by counter-intelligence actions.


>1 free Professional Equipment supply per day.

How many days have we had this so far now?
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>>3008849
>Salted Dark
Oh QD, this is truly amazing, well done.
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>>3008871
>Hive chocolate factory when?
NOW FELLOW THINKER
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>>3008916
>>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
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>>3008916
>>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
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>>3008916
>>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
Fuck it, these are people who appreciate a good show.
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>>3008916
>>Other

>Land a single shuttle with an Ambassador drone + our most impressive dangerous looking drones with a pair of titans as escort in their own ships.

These guys respect strength, let's show them some of our toys. (But nothing that we're keeping secret)
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>>3008910
Well, I didnt mean an actual violin, just music that is similar to it. And yes, we dont have anything traditional yet, but we can start experimenting and look for something we like.
>>3008916
>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
We've just won, or helped guarantee several victories. Lets live a little.
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>>3008916
>an entire parade

Well if they want something to celebrate the Pope's Crusade we better go big.

>>3008916
>>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
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>>3008916
>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
Match what the Union got.
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>>3008916
>>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
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>>3008937
They didn't throw a parade.
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>>3008920
I honestly forgot about it, so just tell me how many you want.

Holoprinters are however a local asset, as they are coded with security measures that are only suitable for that planet's ID laws, so it will only apply to Gemini.
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>>3008916
Should we bring severed Scavenger alpha heads? They're probably not that medieval are they.
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>>3008916
>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
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>>3008949
We could bring the Scav Matriarch in chains and parade her down the street like a Roman Triumph.
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>>3008949
still waiting for our draw guy's scav pic he hinted about on twitter
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>>3008916
>>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones
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>>3008962
She is going to be our adoptee, see if we cant convert her into a useful force.

If nothing else if we can't redeem her then we can at least use her for experiments.

Triump is cool but a little pointless really.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCl1gwX_CVA

Ah I've found the Hive's theme
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>>3008963
Enjoy

Skyl are next on the menu.
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>>3008931
Yeah but making a parade may male it look like we are supporting the Commonwealth in his war against the Union. Which we don't want but we did say that the number of ships and drones show the importance of the meetings and this IS their royal capital so it makes sense to be a little bit showy.
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>>3008916
>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones

Show Time.
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>>3009006
That's actually awesome. Thanks mate!
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>>3009006
That's pretty sweet.
Almost looks like a Reconstructed
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>>3009006

That scav is looking badass. why the heck don't you accept commissions dude, fark
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>>3009006
Nice, thanks for your work.
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>>3009007
I agree

We already showed off like hell with our massive fleet. We really don't need an entire parade of drones. We don't want the optics of holding a massive military parade with the Commonwealth right when the ""Commonwealth"" appears to have attacked the Union. It just looks terrible. A relatively small number of drones will be plenty.

Plus, a large number of drones will piss off Magnus. We can do plenty of showing off at the metal concert.
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>>3009006
Awesome, it's just as horrifying as I imagined.
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>>3009035
Oh yeah i forgot about that. Even if we know that it wasn't the Commonwealth that droped the gravitic missiles.
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>>3008916
>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
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>>3008916
>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort

Yeah better not start losing the popularity pool in the Union while Gemini and Path are almost breaking into riots.
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>>3009035
We're going to send them off to the front lines after this is over anyway.
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>>3009017
>>3009030
>>3009041
Glad you all like it

>>3009024
Distant relation perhaps?

>>3009029
Various reason I suppose. Main one being laziness
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>>3009051
Wut? What you talking about? No better just give a couple of drones or else people gonna start getting afraid and humans do stupid shit like voting for Killinger and believe in lies when they are afraid.

We need to show to be as neutral as possible. Don't want the royals thinking we will support then in a war specialy if people in the Union think the Commonwealth droped gravitic bombs into the Union capital.
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>>3009062
When's the skyl

:^)
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>>3008916
>Land a few shuttles with Ambassador drones and a sizeable drone escort
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>>3008916
>Land several corvettes and larger sub capitals with an entire parade's worth of defencive drones

Your corvettes begin their descent to the clearing lead by one of your destroyers, flanked by two frigates as they drift along their gradual path of descent. Local atmospheric fighters quickly take up formation around your ships, guiding them in for a landing and diverting local air traffic.

Bellow you, as your ships pass over to the day side of the planet, you can see the vast tracts of jungle and farmland bellow you as villagers halt their work to gaze up to the sky as their towns are enveloped in your fleet's shadow, the low hum of your drives rumbling across the landscape with a drumming vibration of an approaching train.

The castle is a vast structure, enough to hold most of the planet's required administration, as well as serving as an exceptionally large fortress. Your ships are guided towards its base, where the lower terrace extends out to encompass entire city districts, among which is a great parade ground cleared of all obstacles or decoration.

Cont.
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>>3009077
Oh well..Guess we will have to deal with the fall out later.
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>>3009077
WHY?
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>>3009077
I thought we voted for the smaller option...

Oh well, I guess the parade could be fun too.
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>>3009077
welp
At least they'll get impressed.
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>>3009097
He was already writting when the other votes were casted.
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>>3009077
I’m so glad we decided to go with the flashy entrance
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>>3009110
You'll quickly regret it.
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>>3009097
It looked like it was in the majority at the time of posting.... and also that one anon seemed to vote like, three times, on multiple sides. Made things quite confusing to count to be honest.
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>>3009103
I mean if the Union complaing we can just tell then that we sended much more ships to talk with then (Union) and don't understand why they are thinking we support the Commonwealth.

But people will try to spin that against us anyway so. Nothomg to do the die was cast.
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>>3009113
Sorry...i know it was me iforgot a lot of stuff and only realized after what the consequences of doing the parade would result.
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so what if the union thinks we're throwing in with the commonwealth? no skin off our dick, might even make them more likely to agree to a cease fire.
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>>3009118
That's a shitty excuse and makes us look like a bigger cunt than if we kept our mouth shut.
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>>3009072
Soon
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>>3009129
More likely to make then spin against us and have people in the expanse and in Union space hate us.

>>3009132
Never said it was a good excuse. Besides you know reporters will want to know why we did what we did. Unless you want to do the "no comment" spinel.
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>>3009129
Or resort to drastic measures bigger than before.
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>>3009135
Holy shit that is so cool.
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>>3009138
And with Killinger spinel of wanting to be anti-xeno and alien power this might just increase the sentiment in other systems.

Honestly the more i look it seems we will just male Jack more paranoid and have his force invest even more in digging any hive agents.

Not to mention the possible spore outbreak in Path.
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>>3009135
Oh god all the skyl teenagers are going to show up with dyed feathers and gauges to show how countercultural they are from ghost dad.
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>>3009146
And Suspicion is going to go through the roof. Espionage is fucked.
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I like how everyone is currently forgetting the fact that we’re waging an instellar war against an alien force that ISN’T the Union. Or how we openly told the union on network television that the size of the forces we send to diplomatic events are simply our expression of interest in those we are meeting, not a statement of military might.

To the union this souls obviously a social call celebrating our shared struggle against the scabs.
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>>3009156
Anons are going to freak out no matter what you tell them, in my experience it's just better to let them.
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>>3009156
I like you forgot that an attack against Union just happened and nobody about what we are fighting against only that we seem to be supporting their enemies.
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>>3009164
except we're clearly not, we've told them we have no interest in their human conflict. We haven't shown any conflict of interest in that front.
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>>3009147
Their new hobby is snorting psionic spores.
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>>3009172
>snort spores
>get a visit from MOTHER
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>>3009172
Goddammit
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>>3009170
>clearly
From your perspective. You have no idea how easy it is to make innocent person look guilty.
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>>3009147
>>3009172
We are gonna be such a bad influence. For real though, im hoping that Heretic has taught them to be grateful to use for giving their race a second chance, and we in turn will be respectful to them for the sacrifices of their ancestors and our future alliance.
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>>3009185
They can malign the hive in bad faith whatever it does or doesn't do.

But if you want to convince them then the humanitarian aid to Path, or future humanitarian aid to Eridani or something, might give a more even handed impression.
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>>3009182
There are a lot worse and more depraved things a teenager Skyl could do, we can be thankful if the worst is toking up the queen's red fluff or whatever equivalent.
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>>3009156
Dude did you not remember what Morgan said when Lee was talking with him in private?

Thread 65.5

>"Well if anyone asks for medical care, the Hive can offer it, otherwise let's just keep things as is." Lee says.
>"You'd be surprised at what the media can spin." Morgan says.

And in Thread 67

>"Builder's Gift, apparently it's named in honor of some important ancestor, I think I saw a mural to her carved on a wall somewhere." Lee replies. "As it is, the Hive is focusing their efforts in an area that otherwise lacks diplomatic and communication channels useable by non humans. It makes sense, here, we just need to buy out a few adds."

>"Look, that's not the point." Morgan replies. "It's going to look a lot like you're cozying up to our enemies in the middle of a war. A war that is escalating by the day."

>"Well then maybe you can send a few people to have a chat with them. It's open to everyone." Lee says with a shrug. "Now, honestly, you can just send any of those questions my way in writing, I should really be getting some sleep by now." Morgan lets out a defeated sigh.
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>>3009194
I suddenly have a burning need for Speaker babysitters.
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>>3009172
>they trip out and see their real mom, not their spooky ghost dad who's a bore man.

I laughed
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>>3009190
And they can enjoy sweet psionic imprinting induced hallucinations. Trips through black holes slaying fake deities and shit.
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>>3009077
The ships lower over the parade ground, their many landing legs unfolding from beneath their hulls as their drive wings fold in and tuck compact against their sides. Dust begins to swirl around your ships as they close in, their drives disturbing the air around them as steam fills the area with a sudden flash of heated moisture as they fire their thrusters upon touchdown. As their hulls come to a stop, their legs flexing and steadying under the weight, you have their cargo holds open and your drones quickly begin to file out in a great, orderly swarm. A colossus marches forth as a sea of warriors flow between its legs, and wasps swarm about its head with one of your ambassador drones perched atop it, watching from the high vantage point as several transports can be seen driving towards you.

There are several small armored troop carriers, and in the lead is a small, topless four seater automobile. A young looking man in a soldier's combat fatigues and move assist armored plating sits behind the wheel, while at his side is a smartly dressed officer holding some manner of scepter in his hand in a bright white and gold uniform. As the vehicle comes to a stop the man quickly exists and marches up to your approaching horde of drones. Your speaker leaps from the top of the colossus and lands with a thud as it quickly folds its legs into a bipedal stance.

"You are human speaker?" Your drone chirps.

"I am the royal Viceroy. I manage all things pertaining to his majesty the Emperor, especially visitors of a diplomatic nature. I understand you consider the size of your force to correspond to the visit's importance. We are quite honored by your numbers." The man holds out a hand to your drone. "Viceroy Jonathan Connery, at your service, Mr. Speaker, sir." He seems to hesitate for a moment as your drone carefully places one of its outstretched digits into the man's hand and moves it up and down in a deliberate motion. "You will forgive me if I may insult you with my presumption... you are male, I take it? We have very little information on your biology and I would prefer to use the proper terms for an honored guest... We've run into such issues before, with Valen dignitaries."

"Human words poorly translate." Your drone says simply. "We understand context."

"Excellent!" Connery says, quickly thrusting the scepter under his arm as he gives your drone's claw a final, firm shake, and gestures to the vehicle. "We will escort your political envoy to the palace immediately, and for your forces we have prepared a gift."

cont.
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>>3009193
The thing is people might be so afraid from the Hive that they might shoot it. When our fleet arrived in Gemmini there were people trying to shoot at the ships.

Anyway i'm speaking just in the worst possible scenario and that would only happen if Killinger try to do a smugge campaing against the Hive positioning us as invaders thay came to the capital and took half of the expanse with weapons poited to the head of the Union citizen.

But Hopefully our humanitarian aid will diverte this problem.
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...Why don't we just tell the Union 'Hey, FYI, we're trying to get the Commonwealth to lay off because they're doing stupid shit, so don't panic.'
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>>3009190
>Skyl instance 495 please refrain from snorting the 30 different compounds you brought back from the concert....
>SCREW YOU YOURE NOT MY REAL DAD
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>>3009214
>A colossus marches forth as a sea of warriors flow between its legs, and wasps swarm about its head with one of your ambassador drones perched atop it, watching from the high vantage point as several transports can be seen driving towards you.
Yeah, okay, that's fucking awesome.
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>>3009214
Uh...look at that...someone watched Union television it seems.

>still we sended a much bigher force to the Union. But let's not comment on that.
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>>3009215
They didnt shoot at us when our scare fleet showed up, they powered up their ant-orbital cannons and sent some fighters out. They were smart enough not to fire unless we fired.
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>>3009219
Hehehehehehehehehehehehe

>My mom is a giant bug monster!
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>>3009214
Oh man, is it a metric ton of honey or maple syrup or sugary soda syrup mix? Is it bodies of dead Scavengers to devour?
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>>3009223
Oh for sure. Where are the titans, though? We need them for maximum impressiveness/intimidation.
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>>3009214
Your drones turn to face the new source of movement, their trained minds thinking only of hostility, when you see several tankers exit a number of refueling stations and storage facilities typically reserved for maintaining and servicing vehicles intended for a parade. There is a strange scent about them, however, a sweetness emanating from the pipes at the base of their tanks. Your drones allow them to pass their perimeter, and as they pull up to your ships, and you examine the small lining of dried crust along the valves, you realize they are all filled with honey.

Several drones immediately rush to the valves, clamping their mandibles on it as they begin to siphon the honey.

"Will you require the vehicles returned?" Your speaker asks. Connery seems confused at the statement, and then there is a realization as he quickly waves to the drivers to flee. They leap from the vehicles, their movement accelerated as several warriors his at them in warning for being so close to your ships.

"No, we will not. They are yours as well as their conten-" Before he can finish his statement your colossus reaches down and grips one of the tanker trucks with its mandibles, picking it up as it shakes it in its jaw. Another reaches up beside it, gripping the other half as they tear the vehicle in half with their maws and begin consuming the tanker, honey and vehicle alike. Your ambassador shuffles along to the vehicle with Connery and the small convoy quickly turns and leaves. Connery looks to your drone, and then away as he steals a glance back to your ships in the paradeground as several colossi belch up a pile of shredded rubber tires into a steaming pile of acidic goo along the ground while the rest of the tankers quickly begin to disappear in a swarm of chitin and gnashing mandibles.

cont.
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>>3009256
Well, we never fail to make an impression at least.
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>>3009256
Now, Now children..you should all share the food.

Well how long untill Infor Wars expy replace the sugar scetch for a Honey one?
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>>3009256
God, how I love our adorable children.
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>>3009256
I really hope their military intelligence catalogued how many second it took to annihilate that honey tanker.
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>>3009256
Nothing like honey, rubber and metal for a balanced diet.
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>>3009256
Fucking lmao. That's amazing
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>>3009135
Beautiful. You never disappoint.
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>>3009256
>ExtremeOmnivores.jpg
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>3009214
>Jon Connery.
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>>3009256
"Well I hope you enjoy the gift." Connery says.

"The product of these 'bees' are highly compatible to hive digestion." Your drone replies. "These creatures are clearly a higher life form among human biospheres."

"Yes, well." He says, somewhat unsure of himself. "They do much to maintain plant pollination in the wild."

"These bees would seem to be adept at geoengineering. Are you certain they are not intelligent?" Your speaker says.

"Yes, unfortunately so."

"Fascinating." Your drone chirps as it digs several small bags of raw sugar from a small container within the car. Your drone looks to Connery inquisitively, and he quickly nods in affirmation as your speaker opens the box with its beak, shearing off the top in the process and simply pours the contents into its mandibles, followed by the rest of the box.

"What do the humans want of the hive?" Your speaker asks suddenly. He seems surprised.

"What do you mean?"

"Humans have a term. To 'sweeten a deal' used in the context of negotiations." Your drone licks at its claws, scrubbing the remaining sugar powder with its mandibles. "This seems sufficiently sweet to be abnormal for typical visits."

cont.

>>3009300
You know I legit just have a big-ass randomly rolled list of these so I never notice when that happens until you mention it.
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So previously we talked about giving free gene therapy and/or implants to the Mute Ceph.

Builder's Gift and the space-Woodstock would be a perfect time and place to introduce that right? Sushi and the band members being the first subjects?
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>"Humans have a term. To 'sweeten a deal' used in the context of negotiations." Your drone licks at its claws, scrubbing the remaining sugar powder with its mandibles. "This seems sufficiently sweet to be abnormal for typical visits."

Dam our speekers don't screw around uh?
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>>3009314
I'm more interested in having one of the band members be offered a parasite or something. But i know it's a bad idea. Even if they would be fine with it if we told then the parasite can inject dorectly any kind of drug that they seem to enjoy from time to time.

Or would the parasite heal a person from a drug induced state? I guess it would since it used to nulifie Lyles drunkness.
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>>3009318
My exact thought.
I guess we are powerful enough, can hide behind our "unfamiliarity" with human norms, and our propensity for being cheeky means we don't need to be subtle. Still, it's jaring.
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>>3009307
Looming mortality is a hell of a motivator.

The only question is if the old guy wants to retire from power in his extended lifespan or be in charge again finally after all those years in his tank. And how many of his also-elderly family members also want some biosculpting of their telomeres.
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>>3009307
The convoy enters the palace proper, the needlessly large doors are easily several floors tall. The interior is almost like a scaled up mansion, the walls reaching dozens of meters into the air with windows and parapets engraved into the sides, and massive murals painted over the upper walls and ceilings. The convoy continues on to where the road ends at a large freight inclinator, and it begins to climb.

"Well, my liege would like to see a manner of trade between our nations." Connery says. "I felt it would be appropriate to give you an offer of our agricultural economy."

"The hive has agricultural capabilities well beyond the humans. We have little use for additional nutrients."

"Well we were unsure of what you would want to receive in any trade arrangement." Connery says. The inclinator begins picking up speed, sending the lights along the walls strobing past. "We know you have little use for credits in your economy, and I suspect your mining technology is far greater than ours as well."

"This speaker assumes the humans have a resource they wish to receive, but are unable to estimate an acceptable price for it." Your drone chirps. Connery's mind seems to snap like a light switch, as his attempt at subtlety suddenly clicks into place like two magnets impacting. He smiles.

"Yes. Yes that is exactly it."

"And the humans wished to attempt to gain such information by gauging the hive's value of a known valued resource."

"Is it working?" He asks. Your drone chitters, rubbing at the sugar along its mandibles as it licks up the remaining granules.

"Possibly." Your drone chirps. "What is your request?" Connery adjusts himself in the seat, moving onto his hip to face your dorne.

"I will be blunt, we request access to whatever means you utilize to extend longevity. Name your price."

>Refuse
>Accept
>Name a price
>Other
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>>3009328
Ive been against giving none hive humans immortality. Human society has developed around the fact that humans expire. You give an old bastard that everybody is wanting to die soon immortality, alot of people are gonna get pissed. Death is what keeps the humans so dynamic as a society, which is one of the reasons we like them.
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>>3009345
>>Name a price
Join the Hive.
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Oh shit here it is
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>>3009345

Hm. I know we had a plan for this, but honestly, I don't like the idea of giving non-Hive humans immortality.

I'm gonna say

>Refuse.
> "Such a thing is only granted to those who follow the Hive."
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>>3009345
Speak of the devil...
Im against it(total immortality, not an extra decade or three), but for now
>Other
Bandy around the bush. Ask why/who wants it.
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>>3009345
Oh shit this is it, the big reveal that we can make humans immortal. But how to do it is the big question. Obviously Rusenthal will be our thrall once we install a parasite anyway.

>>3009345
>>Other
>Accept, but with conditions.
This technology is invaluable to the Hive and is not available for purchase at this time. However, as a symbol of friendship we would be more than willing to allow the limited use of our technology under supervision on a case-by-case basis, provided the humans do not make any foolish attempts at reverse engineering our technology.
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>>3009345
Join the Hive. Openly or discreetly. The only way.
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The hilarious part about it is that I think it's not even a complete lie. They have to get parasited to get the immortality juice in any respectable fashion, right
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>>3009345
>name a price
Our price should be that they have a plan for how to deal with immortals. As another anon mentioned, Commonwealth social structures were built with the idea that those in power would eventually expire.
If the current emperor becomes an eternal god-king, the Commonwealth may have some issues. If we refuse, it should be on "you need to tell us how you're going to make sure immortality doesn't lead to your ruin when outside the control of the Hive" grounds.

>>3009359
This, maybe.
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>>3009345
>Refuse
>To have acess to it you would need to Join the Hive.We can however offer better healling salve as well better healling substances against cold deseases.
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>>3009314
Completely free actually might be too suspicious. Give out coupons?

>>3009345
>>Name a price
Well. That sounds somewhat disruptive to human society. We could devise a procedure to extend a human life, customized to each human's genetic profile.

It would be quite expensive in your credits.

We can also request for the first procedure, some large amount of local property to open a hive run hospital to provide more mundane medical services.

And a relaxing of immigration and emigration laws so that people are more free to travel from and to Fairweather without limit. (We want to increase our own population at some point for newer Elite Agents to recruit.)
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>>3009345
>Join the Hive or nothing.
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>>3009345

>Other
Extended longevity (by, say, a few decades) is fine. biological immortality is not. However, we need a proper understanding of what they have to offer us. Our raw resources are fine, and I doubt they have any tech or unique products worth anything to us.
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>>3009357
The freaking emperor who is 200 years old and who everyone in the Commonwealth is just staring and expecting him to kick the bucket.

Also only becoming one with the Hive (having a parasite in your spine) should be the price for immortality. Giving it to the emperor will make the church hate us as well as all the other admirals.
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>>3009365
>>3009368
Supporting
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>>3009366
I like this. We can give them something that makes them live a few more decades, but anything more would piss of a lot of people. And, in all honesty, what can they give us that would be worth it?
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Thoughts. If the Commonwealth say no, we can probably tell the Union 'yo, they wanted some shit from us but punked out. Y'all aren't punks, are ya?'
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>>3009378
Nothing really
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>>3009324
Might I suggest an alternative

The party symbiot, basically an external version of our parasite but designed to be worn externally and to be seen, with skin that glows or flashes various colours to match the mind set of the wearer

Have them marketed as a free drug dispensers and health screen to prevent early expiration of our more hedonistic guests. Completely option and handed out like those flower necklaces at Hawaiian airports

Think glow sticks meets drugs meets parasite.

Why try to convince people when we can have them beg us for it
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>>3009345
>>Other
This is about your leader isn't it? Your Queen. Emperor. Whatever. Or are there other lives you want to extend?

We will discuss payment with the individual human who desires this. Maybe a small preview of hive medicine may be necessary to make him coherent.
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>>3009345
>Extending your emperor's lifespan indefinitely would require a substantial rebuild of his brain to cope. The hive judges this unlikely to be accepted. Physical rejuvenation is possible, but your emperor will suffer gradual cognitive degeneration ending in insanity in decades at most.
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>>3009373
I know its the emperor, I just want them to admit to it.
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Huh, I wonder...

Individual Drones live forever so long as the Hive, and thus The Queen lives right? Even if they die, their individual minds get resleeved eventually yeah?

Might be an avenue to get a "Mandate of Heaven" esque influence going on if necessary.
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>>3009384
>Rave Leeches
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>>3009345
"Trust. Military support. The absence of war with the Union."
and this: >>3009359 >>3009365

Since these are the three things that matter the most in our long term plan.
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>>3009378

Well the Commonwealth have what? Farms, resources and possibly tech? Maybe ask for some gravitic missiles or how they make then? Like some tech for another tech?

i still think we should refuse anything that will make the emperor live for longer time. We don't even know if the guy is a good person or a complete asshole and Magnus and Yognesh seem to dislike the guy, but as i recall it's mostly because he is so old that he practicaly lives inside his healling tank.
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>>3009365
There's nothing wrong with an immortal god-king under our control though really.

We should however make the procedure seem expensive somehow, in effort if not resources, for the hive. That it requires bespoke customization to each human's genetic profile. It makes us seem less like the price-gougers we should totally be.

>>3009360
We can't say that to JonCon out loud though. We can say it to the Emperor's brain.

And he'd be most useful to us if he were still here, officially a Commonwealth guy, without possibility of a palace leak saying otherwise.
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>>3009395

>This
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>>3009384
So basicaly the spine implants from Dead Space? Still the political back lash would be to intense we don't even know what they have or what they could give us. Maybe give us some researchers? But asking humans for that seem counter intuitive.
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>>3009395
The Union deep state has successfully engineered a war, they can't unilaterally stop it. Emperor doesn't even have the authority to stop it.

We can't demand total peace. But we CAN demand revocation of all the onerous trade and travel restrictions. Which is maybe peace-directional.
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To those suggesting "join the Hive", what does that mean? vassalization? integration?
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No way are we giving them parasites, obviously. But if they just had the serum that the parasites make, would they be able to easily reverse-engineer and reproduce it?
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>>3009345
This is pretty good
>>3009395
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>>3009397
>There's nothing wrong with an immortal god-king under our control though really.
Not a problem for us, but it sure as hell is gonna be a problem for the Commonwealth.
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>>3009359
>This technology is invaluable to the Hive and is not available for purchase at this time.


Yeah, Jon was ambiguous. He said they request "access" to "means." It isn't clear if access meant fully copying our notes so they can do it with their own biotech, or just 'access' to using it.
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>>3009397
>There's nothing wrong with an immortal god-king under our control though really.

Except that now the humans would try to kill each other for power and have then lose focus or even have then turn toward the Void.

I say we refuse for now because once they try to reverse engennier that,and they will try. Thing will be terrible for everyone.
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>>3009411
They don't actually care how their planets are run as long as they pay the levy.

It would only be a problem for said god-king, if his family starts trying to assassinate him. Which just means they volunteer for their own immortality buddy.
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>>3009407
Yeah, it's a long shot, and it can't happen if the Union doesn't want it. I don't expect him to agree to it since he doesn't have to power to reinforce that kind of promise, but I think he'll give more targeted requests in response. It's just that we've already told the Union directly that we would prefer they not be in a war with the CW, may as well tell them too.
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>>3009408
Parasite implant. Become one with the Hivemind.
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>>3009345
>Other
The hive has long pondered this exact offer. The means of unmaking your flaws, and turning the singleminded into immortal beings is not beyond us, but we worry of unintended consequences. Twenty thousand thinkers could not decode a healthy outcome from this exchange. The terror of death has chained your kind so long, and so deeply ingratiated itself in your cultures that its abolition could be the abolition of society itself.

We ask if you have yourselves considered the ramifications of such a thing and produced plans and studies as to the effect of immortality on your own ruling structure?
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>>3009345
>>3009359
Backing
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>>3009418
Yeah but the many reunalts do care and would try to go to war to try and claim what is rigthfully their. They aren't doing that because the Emperor is almost dead.
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>>3009368
Actually, make the huge tracts of land for the hive hospital technically a giant hive consulate, so it's under hive sovereignty sort-of.
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>>3009365
My vote is for this
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>>3009417
Humans don't even have focus to lose. They are constantly bickering and at each other's throats already.
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Man i will be honest i don't want to seel our biotech to the humans. To much shit can happen because of it.

Beside asking for our biotech which is how we managed to live for so long. Would be the same thing as if the Valen sold the secret for the ring gates.
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>>3009404
More like small drug leech wrist bands and a glow in the dark kidney belt parasite to help clear the immune system if they over do it. How ever no surgery required it latch onto the skin and can be easily removed by the wearer

Let them get a taste for it then advise them there are more.. permanent versions of requested
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>>3009427
So give them parasites. Give everybody parasites and poison everyone's drink with psionic spores to read their minds and make sure there's no one left in the family tree who hungers for power enough to murder.

It starts a subplot of palace intrigue, but there's a very achievable win scenario there.
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>>3009345
I sorta like >>3009425

If we do end up having them "gain" in through us we would need to set up our own medical facility to "Help maintain & monitor their health".

I can also see the appeal of the parasite option as we can offer remaking their bodies into new/younger/stonger/etc. versions of themselves, but to "truly" be immortal one has to accept "Mother's Gift" as that way even if they died they could be reborn due to the Hive having their mind backed up.

Basically "Sure we can help you live longer and better, but immortality has a deeper price"
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>>3009448
We don't habe time to play witht he humans we have a war in two fronts to face. Void and Obisidian
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Reading all the different proposals, QD might have to tally the most popular options and hold another vote just to make things clear. This is a big decision and the voting seems all over the place.
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>>3009444
Yeah giving away the method to do it themselves would be nuts. Just bad business sense.

But just the service is invaluable enough to get a high price fortunately.
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>>3009444
We don't necessarily have to give them the means of production of our technology technology. Simply administer the appropriate treatments in controlled environments.
Although I disagree giving them immortality is as dangerous as Valen gate tech. An immortal human is dangerous, but a human with a psychic jammer even more so.
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Beside giving the commonwealth one of the main reasons to join the Hive is a really bad play for us si ce what we value are human creativity and live specime
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>>3009444
With him asking how much it would cost, he knows he's going to need a really convincing argument. If he accedes to all of our demands here and now he'd have to be lying, obviously. So any worthy offer from him will be something he has constructed from our named price.

We shouldn't outright say he has nothing to offer us even if it's mostly true, because we're already sharing a military campaign, and they're smart enough to know that holds value for us. Right now, his question is testing our price limits. We're just naming difficult prices to test his reaction, we don't actually have to sell biotech.
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>>3009459
Those things occur simultaneously and don't subtract resources from the other.

And if your concern is OOC, QD is getting faster again at making things happen and not get bogged down by many threads on one event.
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>>3009462
i mean they don't know about psionics yet. I just don't want to jump to stuff i guess i'm to patanoid for my own good.
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Oh right....ha.

There's a reason the young Viceroy, whose name is not von Reuenthal, met us and no actual imperial family members did.

They might not have been told about this, but they might suspect the purpose of the invite.
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>>3009396
We can make him a good person. We have the technology.
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>>3009497
Fact
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>>3009345
"Human society requires expiration to function." Your drone says. "Fixing this would cause instability and collapse. The hive would only grant such a favor to those who would join with the Hive. We would need to speak with whoever wishes this. Which human is so important as to need immortality?" Connery thinks hard on your statement, his mind churning like a storm.

"I think in time you will find that expiration of our leaders is a destabilizing force on our society. By helping us in this way, you would be securing our own stability for the foreseeable future." He says. "I'm sure there is something that we could provide that would make it worth your while in this respect."

"The Hive would need to be convinced of this. It currently is not. The war with the Union is escalating needlessly. Wars for territory is not new to the Hive, but such conflicts would not escalate beyond the profitability of the land gained. The losses being incurred on both sides is quickly surpassing the value of your contested system."

"I'm afraid we would disagree on that point, honored speaker." Connery says. "Earth is our homeworld. Its value cannot be measured in its farmlands' capacity or its mineral density. Just as you refuse to place a price tag on immortality, we cannot put a price on the value of watching Sol set over the Alps, or the smell of a hardwood forest that took a thousand years or more to grow. Earth is where humans truly belong, and the Union would just seal it up and pretend the disaster it is now is not their fault." There is a slight bitterness to the statement, although his face masks it well, his mind leaks the emotions from countless holovids and childhood stories.

"Then the humans will need to prove they are worthy of trust and capable of stability." Your drone replies. The inclinator begins to slow as the convoy's platform makes contact with a set of large clamps at the top of the shaft, and the convoy continues on down a new, far more ornate street. You wonder how much of the surroundings is real gold, and how much is an expensive replica. Massive golden columns line the hall as the walls and ceiling become seemingly more and more ornate the more you continue on. At the end of the hall is a large door, several meters tall, and manned by a small battalion of guards in powered armor suits fitted to resemble dress uniforms or parade attire, with vibrant colors and decorative insignias along their pauldrons.

"I think it would be best if we continue this topic at another time." Connery says suddenly. "For now, the Royal Court will want to speak with you."

"More humans wish to speak?" Your drone says, almost excitedly as it subdues itself.

cont.
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>>3009501
>and manned by a small battalion of guards in powered armor suits fitted to resemble dress uniforms or parade attire, with vibrant colors and decorative insignias along their pauldrons

This is some proper 40k now
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>>3009501
Yep, Viceroyboy is the only one the old guy trusts. Not his own family or palace guards.
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>>3009501
>the court
oh boy
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>>3009512
>Space40k was made by the union with the Imperium as a mockery of the Commonwealth

Amazing.
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>>3009135
>>3009006
Fuck yes, very very tasty Smiles!
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>>3009524
We just need imperial knights and the mechanicus
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>>3009512
We could totally rent out custom "armies" of drones for wargames. Our shiny new city would make n excellent starting location actually.
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>"I'm sure there is something that we could provide that would make it worth your while in this respect."

Oh yeah...the Commonwealth are the humans who build the psy canon...if they either habe the blueprints or more void shards...that WOULD be worth giving immortality for one human.
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>>3009548
We have the blueprints though. All we have to do is research the associated items.
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>>3009529
You are late. That is not very gentlemantly.
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>>3009548
I mean if we parasite the emperor and just mind whammy him like lyle then we're set honestly.
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>>3009548
This is true. We may want to give immortality to this human anyway if we get to stick a parasite inside a powerful emperor.
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>>3009548
That's above the Emperor's classification.
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>>3009556
Likely, but he has been around for 200+ years and was alive when the psionic cannon was actually fired. He may know more than the other Commonwealth brass think, especially if we give his memory a little hive-infused boost.
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If we want to ease into things slowly, first we start a medical center consulate and give Viceroy Jon a second heart. If he's as valuable to his majesty as he seems to be, it's irresponsible to let him run around with just one.
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>>3009559
I didn't even considered that...this guy must be one of the oldest humans and who was alive during the Confederancy. Now i'm starying to think that giving him immortality (by forcing him to sit in a temple created by the hive to deep in medical gel to restore himself)
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>>3009501
"Yes. This planet is administered by a number of nobles spread across its surface. As well, the great houses of many worlds have pledged fealty to the Emperor and maintain a representative here to maintain order between our holdings. In total, the Empire represents the largest singular political entity within the Commonwealth."

"And the Connery does not wish for this request to be applied to these vassals?" Your drone asks. Connery smirks.

"I was told your caste was good at speaking, not at reading between the lines." He says as he glances forward to the guards and waves them to the side as the doors open with a sudden, reverberating creak of strained metal. "Word of these negotiations, even if your final word is to refuse the request, if they were to get out would... potentially be an issue of inconvenience for us both." The convoy stops as the door continues to open, and several of the guards quickly scan the vehicle, running various mobile sensors under the undercarriage before waving the driver through. The scene on the other side could only be described as gratuitous, as the vehicle begins driving along a road towards a castle built within the architecture of the arcology itself, a literal castle within a castle, its front gate is attended by several guards in full drop suit armor, each wielding a large polearm weapon mounted with a thermal vibroblade cut in half like a tuning fork, with the pole itself some manner of linear particle beam weapon fed by a thick set of cables running into the power cell of the armor, and a small particle emitter embedded in the gap between the blades of the polearm. Just below the blades is a long strip of deep sanguine red silk cloth decorated with the colors of various royal crests arranged in a checkerboard pattern that stretches down the bottom half of the silk cloth strip. their helmets each hold a large, elaborate, and rather unwieldy looking golden crest of what looks like synthetic hair. Ahead of them are several dozen more guards in parade dress with similar, but much smaller, polearm particle-spears held like muskets against their sides. Four large walker tanks stand century flanking the street, and as your convoy stops at the base of the large stairs, the tanks' forelegs roll forward on their wheels, giving the impression of a bow.

Your drone continues on with the Viceroy as the guards offer a salute as they pass. You wonder if this is a typical reception, or if you are being given some level of deference. You suppose it would be rare for someone with both this much political power and such a vulnerable state of health to have any personal visitors, and what few visitors they would have would assumably be important. Still, it all seems excessive, even to you.

cont.
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>"I was told your caste was good at speaking, not at reading between the lines."

Connery you cheeky. This thinker is sligthly intrigued
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>>3009572
>tanks stand century flanking
???

And technically this isn't the person visit yet is it, this is just the intro to the royal court.

Which isn't called the imperial court i guess.
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>>3009572
The new set of doors open, and within you find a massive chamber decorated with chandeliers the size of small houses and hanging orbs of decorative plasma burning above like small, fake suns. The room is crowded with gaudily dressed presumably nobility fill the chamber, discussing various inane topics intended to mask their attempts at court intrigue, and at once you feel their gaze upon you. Not one looks to your drone, at least not at first, their discussions continuing as if on autopilot with not a single participant paying it any attention as everyone watches your drone through the corners of their eyes and the reflections in their makeup mirrors. Your speaker strides forth with its elegant bipedal stride, and you hear the meaningless discussions slow as the pre-prepared topics begin to run out and their heads begin to turn to watch you more directly as your drone moves between them, their gawking faces nearly waste high to your drone in at its full height.

"How many doors must we navigate?" Your speaker whispers.

"How deep within your hives do you keep your Queens?" Connery replies. He passively grabs a small glass of champagne from the held out platter of a passing waiter. "Besides, all these fine people are here to see you. I'm sure they would give almost anything to talk with you."

>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
>Ignore them and continue deeper into the palace
>Other
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>>3009595
>>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
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>>3009595
>>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
Give almost anything? Maybe they'll invite the hive for a consulate too.

Let's test this elbow rubbing technology here.
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>>3009595
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
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>>3009595
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
INFO GATHERING!
I like Connery
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>>3009595
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
Follow politeness protocols
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>>3009595
...Maybe we should bring in a second speaker.

>>3009607
He was probably a commoner hired on merit.
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>>3009595
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles

Conrrey said that the expiration of the leader would cause Chaos. Let's meet this diplomats and members of nobility. Maybe then we will understand.

>"How deep within your hives do you keep your Queens?"

No seriously is this guy psionic? He is a much better talker the Lee.
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>"How deep within your hives do you keep your Queens?"

>Queens

I wonder if that means they think there's more than one.

>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
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>>3009595
>How deep within your hives do you keep your Queens

This guy is fantastic
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>>3009613
'You' means the entire species. not a faction.
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>>3009613
More like they aren't sure if the Queen is just a part of the Hive who lays eggs or if she is the center of the hivemind. Which is good because that was kinda what we are trying to stop everyone from fidding out.
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>>3009610
>...Maybe we should bring in a second speaker.
This in practicality, but it's not like QD can realistically write two scenes at once, so let's just do it in order and
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles

I don't expect much to come from this.
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>>3009595
>>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles


>>3009614
No kidding. He is excellent at his job.

>>3009620
I don't either, but our blunt speaker crashing through the opaque nobility should be fun.
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>3009595
>Entertain the court and speak with the crowd of lesser nobles
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If you guys really want to fuck with some heads try asking around about who did the missile attack on the Union.
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>>3009595
You decide this is a good of a time as any to begin gathering information on the political landscape of the Commonwealth's member worlds.

"There are many human speakers here." Your drone says. "Should the hive send additional speakers as well?"

"I suppose you would consider yourselves to be interchangeable in that respect?" Connery says. "I'll have them send in as many as you would see the need for, of course."

You unleash your speakers, sending them forth to mingle, chat, shoot the breeze, and engage in the small talk. While the nobility give more the impression of hungry, circling sharks than of friendly visitors, they smile and listen to your speakers, and then allow your speaker to chitter softly in an approximation of a smile as they take their turn. Before too long, many dozens of speakers file into the court, finding dueling opponents to engage in their delicate battle of meaningless words as your speakers fight with the ferocity of the strongest of your warrior drones to gather information from the pointless small talk of the nobility, while you presume they are doing the same. You are at the advantage in coordination, however, and you quickly gather that the nature of this visit of yours is a great mystery to them, although they very much seek to know it. You deflect with comments of the local weather patterns and the apparent skillful crafting of their garments, and they riposte with fashion trends and the socioeconomic impacts of the fabric industries on several worlds before countering with questions on Hive fabric manufacturing techniques and social structures.

As things get into full swing, you doubt there is much of any difference to how it looked before you arrived.

And suddenly, your attention is pulled elsewhere, your speakers gleefully content to remain as they are. You have no doubt they will outlast the lesser nobility, but you do commend the neo-feudal social system for managing to create an efficient Human Speaker drone, if nothing else.
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>>3009636
These people wouldn't know and would start to push blame toward Magnus or someone else.
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>>3009638
Did Kent arrive? But that would be a positive event. It's probably shit getting real or Pastor David.
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>You unleash your speakers
Pic related
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>>3009638
>but you do commend the neo-feudal social system for managing to create an efficient Human Speaker drone, if nothing else.

Ah!I guess these are the best speakers from the Commonwealth.
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> All Elite Agents left to their own devices will independently perform Investigation Actions for free and have a chance of discovering enemy or criminal activity on worlds they are deployed on each day, and increase the failure rate and discovery chance of any and all enemy or criminal activities. The presence of an Elite Agent on a planet gradually reduces Agitation slightly on Owned planets

Should deploy Jackob or something to Deckard's Claim, their Agitation is way too high still.
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>>3009648
OQ Creep? We still have flies on Path so.
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>>3009660
We definwtly should specialy since we know there is a eco-terrorist and anti cybernetic group in there.
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>>3009638
Hey QD quick question:

How long did it take the Union to occupy the space that they did in the Expanse?

Basicaly what u want to know is...how many days do we have to build all the infraestructure they lefed behind to put a real scare on then?
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>>3009660
Good call. I wonder if there's a way we can use the BFI agent, but it seems pretty risky seeing as he declined a parasite and may have some residual loyalty to the union even after we uncovered so much corrupt shit.
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>>3009671
Dillon is a fine boy besides if we tell him there is a terrorist group in Deckards Claim his internal white knight will want to protect the people so he will work extra hard to protect then.

Besides he already got burned and is on the target list in the Union as a traitor and possible Hive agent.
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>>3009675
He's smart enough to realize we wouldn't send him anywhere with a benefit on our part, legitimate threat or not. Better to shoot straight with him in this case.
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>>3009675
Good thinking, Dillon is probably pretty good at tracking terrorist groups and/or cults. He'd be more effective with a parasite, but he's Lyle's bro so unfortunately I think we're not infecting him even if it'd be for his own good. Still, that may be a good arena to deploy him in, provided the Union doesn't send a hit squad (or a smith) to take him out.
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Your Hive Ship orbits Gemini in a close geosynchronous orbit, nested between the two twin worlds, watching the capital bellow as the planets continue their cosmic dance. You examine the new oddity that has caught your attention. A twitch, like a mental muscle cramp. Something is not right.

You scan the surroundings, the area of space beyond you empty, or as empty as the orbital space of the Union capital could be at any rate. You examine the massive fleet of picket ships and the countless merchant traffic. You see nothing unusual, and yet there is a strange feeling about the system, a sense of anticipation. Your fleet in support of your Hive ship is nearly depleted, with almost every vessel diverted elsewhere or recalled as a show of good faith. You sense that it has had some small degree of effect, as those bellow your Hive Ship seem to feel progress is being made in their situation, but you can tell they still feel your ship's presence like a boot heel upon their throat. It is not entirely outside of your intention, especially with their seeming attempted trickery. You find the rare few ships left, several sensor corvettes left to monitor the blind spots of the system your Hive Ship cannot see from its orbit, and you scan once more.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.

>>3009669
A lot longer than it is taking you.
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Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>3009692
For Mother
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>3009692
for mother!
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Rolled 30 (1d100)

>>3009692
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>3009692
For Mother!
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>>3009698
There it is boys.
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>>3009698
GOOD GOD
HAVE MERCY ON OUR HEARTBEATS
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>>3009692
CEPH ATTACK!! THE SQUIDS ARE HERE!!

BATTLE STATIONS!!
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>>3009698
NOW THAT IS HOW THE HIVE ROLLS BABY!
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>>3009698
Oh Holy Mother YES!
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>>3009698
I missed this irreplaceable feeling.
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>>3009698
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>>3009698
That's the good shit right there.
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This is lovely, we got a crit success to attack the OQ's hive ship, and now a crit success defending our own. Life in the Hive is good.
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>>3009718
And possibly avoided casualty from the humans. They are goimg to start asking us to bring the fleet back if we keep savi g their asses like that. lol
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I wish Guardian was operational and closer to gemini so we could space drill in strike craft.... The Citadel's fighters will have to do
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>>3009707
If this is a Ceph attack we probably at least now have time to get reinforcements in place and can blast a warning to all the nearby Union forces about imminent attack.

Hell, maybe we can spin the “false-flag” gravity attack as actually being launched by the Ceph if they are launching a real attack right after those missiles hit. It would be a hilarious irony.
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>>3009725
If the CW didn't launch the missiles, and the Union denies launching the missiles (which they will obviously do), maybe we *can* pin the gravity attacks on Ceph extremists, assuming this is a Ceph attack now, of course. The coincidence will make our argument much more compelling, and will portray the Hive as heroes.
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>>3009698
...yes.

Yes.

YES!
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>>3009698
OH BOY
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>>3009692
Your ships examine the space beyond, and there is a faint gravitational disturbance. It pricks at spacetime like the ripples of a swarm of tiny gnats on the surface of a pond, rippling out through reality and across your senses. You feel it, a growing sense of unease as the stars beyond you start to shimmer as if underwater. The feeling grows, and before you see them, you see them, like a swarm of glass butterflies falling from beyond your spacetime.

Your Hive Ship finds its targets, and its hangars open as a cloud of fighters shed from its hull, and its railgun fires. As you feel a sudden psionic sting in the distance, your kinetic round impacts something with the force of an atomic warhead, and you feel the glass butterflies swarm.

>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
>Have your Hive Ship perform an emergency blink maneuver and evacuate from the system
>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range
>Other (write in)
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>>3009733
>>3009725
As cool as that would be why would the Ceph attack the Union and not the Hive Ship in orbit?
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>>3009742
>>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range
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>>3009742
>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range
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>>3009742
>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defense
>Other (write in)
Activate psionic jammer
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Rolled 1 (1d3)

>>3009742
FUCK US DID WE JUST PUNCH THE VOID GODS IN THE NOSE?

May the dice gods lead my roll

1.Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
2.Have your Hive Ship perform an emergency blink maneuver and evacuate from the system
3.Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range
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>>3009742
>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
>Other:Send a telepathy pin to Lee heck have the ambassador look up in the space in the distance and tell Leet that the Ceph are raidding.

Also Holy Shit it is the Ceph!
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>>3009742
>>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range

>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
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>>3009742
>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range

>>3009745
>As cool as that would be why would the Ceph attack the Union and not the Hive Ship in orbit?
We could claim that the Ceph are behind the entire Commonwealth-Union War. We could claim one of their stealth-ships is what destroyed the station, and they launched a false-flag attack attempting to be the Commonwealth to further spur war with the Union. They did all this so they could weaken the Union for when their ally, the OQ, attacks (no need to mention the Void god yet)

It's all bullshit, of course, except for the fact that a Union-Commonwealth war really *does* do exactly what the Void wants. And it will be very hard for anyone to call us on this bullshit.
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>>3009742
>>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
They're around, and it's literally their job.
>Attempt to blink in additional ships into effective range
Anything untasked that can get here fast enough to matter.
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>>3009751
Well we did say that they (Union) should send the artifact to our Hiveship. Also we kinda broke the waypoint for the Scavs soo...ops?

AND now maybe Union will get that they should give us those artifacts!!
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>>3009742
>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
If we mass blink in reinforcements within range we need to be mindful of the civilian traffic. The radiation burst of our formations could potentially cause collateral damage. Warn the merchant ships to stand clear or risk immobilization/destruction.
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>>3009760
>>3009757
>>3009755
>>3009748
>>3009747
Guys the EMP from our blink drive will fuck up with the Union ships and the merchants we have to hold the line using what we got or at least Blink the ships as far as we can from the planet/air traffic
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>>3009742
>Other (write in)
FIRE EVERYTHING
https://youtu.be/1Io0OQ2zPS4
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>>3009777
We can use a Rip drive

Alternatively, ask for Heretic to assist? He's got a psi-jammer that works.

Additionally, if we lose the Hive Ship here, it would be a disaster for our relationship with the Union.
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>>3009742
QD did you start writing yet?
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>>3009777
Blinking in additional ships to help does not equal blinking in our entire 10,000+ ship armada. We can blink a relatively low number of ships close to the Hive Ship and have the rest of our reinforcements blink further out.

knowing the Anons on this quest, though, they'll probably send "everything"... again
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>>3009788
Sending everything is a bad idea here.
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>>3009784
Oh absolutely agreed, losing the Hive ship would be an utter and unmitigated disaster. It would make us look weak, it would make the Union look stupid for capitulating to us, and could very well lead to war.
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>>3009784
We definetly should use the Rip drive.

Don't know if we should inform Heretic of Theseus about this since i believe Heretic is somewhat a secret.

Maybe if things get too out of hand?
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>>3009793
The Rip drive isn't as accurate as our blink drives, though. Perhaps we can use both?
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>>3009788
>tfw we send so many ships in response to the ceph attack that the sky is entirely overcast by our fleet despite the distance
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>>3009795
We really need to start being more surgical with our responses and fleet movements.
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>>3009784
The only allies we should call on here is the once whose planet we're parked over. There would be all sort of PR and IFF issues in bringing a third party in over someone else's world in the middle of an attack from a suspected but unknown enemy.
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Your ship begins broadcasting on all frequencies, adopting the widely used standard emergency signal codes used to signal a Ceph raid. The Union pickets begin adjusting their positions as they launch fighters and begin bombarding local space with wide spectrum active scans. Along the outer periphery of the picket forces formations there is a sudden flash of radiation and a tachyonic burst, and a picket corvette falls in half, its hull snapped like a dry stick as its power tap goes critical a moment later. The space around it is instantly filled with flak as PD lasers and autocannons begin firing at anything close to resembling a cloak wake. You feel the faint screaming of distant Void Shards as Void Cutters shatter in the dark skies among the stars, glittering for an instant before being swallowed by the void.

Another ship cracks open like a burst keg, its shield cap spewing water as its hull fractures and splinters. A beam suddenly lances out from a small, nearly invisible black dot, and a picket ship's hull boils as its shield flickers and stutters, the beam lancing clear through and devouring the armor like styrofoam until the hull bursts with bleeding atmosphere. Missiles rocket forth, swirling in chase of the tiny specks as lances of screaming tachyons cut them down.

Bellow, Lee suddenly leaps from his seat, a flash of panic rushing through his mind as the psionic screaming of the attacking Ceph Cutters sends the Valen next door into an uncontrolled bestial panic that is easily felt by your own hive and sends shivers down Lee's spine as your own hive recoils from the unnatural signals.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 to blink in reinforcements close enough to help.
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>3009808
Do the things for Mother!
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>>3009799
Maybe if we haven't m9ve our fleets the way we did. We still have some ships in hibernation? If it doesn't take to long w
to wake then up and send then.
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>>3009742
>>Contact the Union PDF and attempt to coordinate a defence
>>[OTHER/RESERVE]Attemp to blink in additional ships into effective range
Why not simply request aid from the Union, but have our troops ready to step in at a moments notice if things start going south?

In the event they cant defend us they are dead weight and we no longer need to worry about them right?
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>>3009808
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>3009808
for mother!


>>3009742
I imagine the humans down below are in the middle of a serious panic attack. The enormous scary ship that's visible on the surface from orbit, without any warning, just dumped it's entire fighter complement and started firing it's main battery. I suspect until we tell them what's going on, they're going to assume something they did really, really hacked us off. We should resolve that issue before someone with an itchy trigger finger goes off half-cocked.
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>>3009808
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>>3009808
>Bellow, Lee suddenly leaps from his seat, a flash of panic rushing through his mind as the psionic screaming of the attacking Ceph Cutters sends the Valen next door into an uncontrolled bestial panic that is easily felt by your own hive and sends shivers down Lee's spine as your own hive recoils from the unnatural signals.

Wow, the Valen probably haven't seen this many Ceph ships up close I would surmise. This may be a way for us to improve the relationship with them since we can help defeat and calm the mental screams.
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>>3009814
Congratulations on getting the highest roll.
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>>3009814
Well done Anon. 89 is good enough for me.
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>>3009814
Always bet on mother.
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>, a flash of panic rushing through his mind as the psionic screaming of the attacking Ceph Cutters sends the Valen next door into an uncontrolled bestial panic

Oh Valen are Void sensitive too
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>>3009821
They're psionically sensitive, able to read them but not use them to speak.
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>>3009821
As I said in another post, I think the Valen must not have heard a major Ceph war-party before or they would have recognized the hive "speech" as something similar to what the Ceph are like in battle. It's no surprise this whole experience is terrifying for them.
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>>3009817
Just imagine it, the signal we gave them about the Skyl at our little dinner party was enough to give one of them a mild conniption.

Now imagine those same souls being bombarded with high powered Hive warning broadcasts at full volume, conveying all the menace and dread the Hive us feels towards the Ceph and their dark masters.

We probably literally traumatized most of Valen in the embassy and gave the rest a brain injury of some sort.
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>>3009826
I think the Valen were reacting to the Ceph's shouting not the Hive's counter psionic-scream. There could very well be both factors at play, though. If we wind up losing the Hive ship you bet your ass there will be some extremely loud and salty psychic screaming going on.
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>>3009826
Considering that Valen apparently have a mechanism to relax that is the same that a human heaving a heart attack i kinda feel bad for then.
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>>3009831
Well that's why you make cheaper ships when the void cutters come out
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>>3009833
Man so many happenings in the Union i think Jack and Killinger are going to have a heart attack or something from all the stress.
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>>3009841
Who knew that if they had just waited one day they could have had a real attack they could use for militarization and wouldn't even need to bomb themselves after-all. Silly humans.
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Lee runs to the balcony and looks up at the eclipsed sky of Gemini's twin as flashes of light and strange, sudden bursts of darkness mix and mingle in orbit. Amid what feels like a brief pause as the Hive's combined mental capacity strains to coordinate an emergency, mid combat blink, the combat becomes interspersed with sudden flashes of light dotting across the sky. An loud, rolling claxon begins sounding across the city, and the rolling thunder of sonic booms rattles windows and triggers car alarms as local grav fighter squadrons rapidly streak through the air to join the battle.

Your ships blink in across the battlefield in orbit, suddenly thrown into what could only be called a proper furball of chaotic combat. Union ships quickly spin on their axis, tumbling end over end as they evade your newly arrived ships. A Corvette blinks into place where a Void Cutter was a moment prior, and its hull bursts open suddenly as the cutter's hull collapses and is consumed by the Void, ripping a chunk of your corvette with it into a momentary black hole of twisted gravitation. A moment later, the rest of its squadron straifs the corvette, their beams lancing through your shields and boiling away the armor as the hull is gutted in an instant before they themselves are torn to shreds by the PD fire of several more fresh ships.

You suspect orbital combat was never meant to be held this close to the target, let alone blink maneuvers, as starships emerge from the aether within visual range of one another, opening fire like the broadside combat of ancient naval battles as grav fighters tail or are tailed by Void Cutters at ranges of mere hundreds of meters.

The Void Cutters continue to join the battle, dropping their cloaks as they lunge towards their targets, each surprise strike growing closer and closer to your Hive Ship. You watch them strike, their tiny, oblong spheroid shapes carried by their long, crystalline wings that bend and grow and shrink, and scream. They expand to kilometers in length with sudden flashes of movement, carrying their hulls at incredibly accelerations. You watch several fly through a Union cruiser's flanks, their wings slicing cleanly through shield and armor alike with no visible resistance only to have the cruiser's hull rapidly boil away, eroding like a rotting corpse before exploding in a burst of escaping gas and expanding flash-frozen water.

cont.
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>>3009550
There is something called timezones, sleep, and a bunch of to-be-ironed laundry.
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>>3009849
Might be time to deploy that psionic jammer guys, although with our ships all way out of formation it will certainly be messy. The Union defenses appear to actually be doing a pretty damn good job all things considered. Hopefully our reinforcements are helping? Although it's difficult to say.

Also, there is a non-zero chance this could push Gemini to the "riots" stage in the unrest-o-meter
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>>3009849
You see cutter after cutter appear from its cloak and attack, the defences of both the Union pickets and your own ship offering nothing, no apparent resistance or mitigation at all. With every strike your ships read critical hull breaches as their beams lance through flesh and bone without even registering on your shields, each time with a deafening psionic wail like a bloodthirsty battlecry. A Union defence platform, not far from your Hive Ship, streams PD fire from its hull until it suddenly begins drifting apart, it's hull sliced clean in half, and a small formation of cutters lance it with bursts of their beams reducing the remains to a drifting field of dust. Further out, a patrolling battleship begins to boil and break apart like melting butter in a pot of boiling water, its hull bending, and then snapping as its shield cap bursts open and its spine breaks in half, then drifts apart like a dissipating liquid, sublimating into nothing, vanishing without a word.

Your own ships are quickly taking up position around your Hive Ship, their FTL dropping them into the thick of it before their sensors can even orient themselves to the star. They are vulnerable in those few seconds, and the Ceph take advantage. As the Union picket's perimeter begins to collapse the focus of fire starts to shift from them, to you.

>Tighten your formation and focus on supporting your strike craft
>Spread your formation out to give room to maneuver and attempt to open the distance between you and the cutters
>Have your ships focus all efforts to cover the Hive Ship and have it emergency blink out of system
>Other (write in)
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>>3009858
>Have your ships focus all efforts to cover the Hive Ship and have it emergency blink out of system

Fly, you fools!
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>>3009858
>>Other (write in)
>Activate the psionic jammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNjWpZmxDgg
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>>3009858
>Other (write in)
Psi jammer?
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>>3009858
Well it's time to apologize to the Valen and break out the jammers.
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>>3009858
>>Tighten your formation and focus on supporting your strike craft
What do you do with an enemy whose guns can cut through any defense from a long way away? Get in close and pummel him.
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>>3009858
Jam 'em boss.
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>>3009858
They're willing to fight the union picket. They're willing to make the hive ship the target.

Or maybe they're trying to find a critical location based on wherever the hive ship jumps.

That said, they may lay waste to the planet if they cannot get the ship
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>>3009858
>>Other (write in)
Activate the jammer
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>>3009858
>>3009861
activate a psi jammer if we have it installed, if not

>Spread your formation out to give room to maneuver and attempt to open the distance between you and the cutters
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>>3009858
>Tighten your formation and focus on supporting your strike craft
>Spread your formation out to give room to maneuver and attempt to open the distance between you and the cutters
>Have your ships focus all efforts to cover the Hive Ship and have it emergency blink out of system
>Activate the Psionic Jammer
>Other (write in)
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>>3009874
>>Activate the Psionic Jammer
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>>3009874
>Activate the Psionic Jammer
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>>3009874
>Activate the Psionic Jammer
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>>3009874
>>Activate the Psionic Jammer
And hope our fighters can stay in somewhat good order for the duration.
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>>3009874
>>Tighten your formation and focus on supporting your strike craft
The jammer will sever our own connection to our ships. Without us their entire formation and strategic organizational ability will go to shreds.
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>>3009874
>Activate the Psionic Jammer
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>>3009874
>>Activate the Psionic Jammer
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>>3009874
QD question. Do we have the memory crystals installed?
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>>3009874
>>>Activate the Psionic Jammer

>>3009879
It worked for Mother and allowed her fleet (which is smaller AND much less advanced than ours) crush the Ceph when they attacked her. Also, the Union obviously won't be effected.
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>>3009874
>Activate the Psionic Jammer

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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>>3009884
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>>3009883
Then we coordinate with the union before we set the jammer. give them a window of time
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>>3009884
For Mother!
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>>3009884
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>>3009884
Prepare to be jammed
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>>3009888
Trips for the win.
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>>3009884
FOR MOTHER

FUCK THE VOID
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>>3009888
Not bad me, not bad
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>>3009888
for mother!
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>>3009888
>>3009889
oh my
Thank dice gods that wasnt a crit fail
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Well I guess that answered the question regarding rapid damage control? Honestly I have no idea if it did, what a clusterfuck.
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>>3009889
I should be recycled.

>>3009888
Oh Thank Mother you went before me.

>>3009886
Do we really have time or want to explain the details and consequences of psionic jamming to the Union?
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Now to hope it won't summon the void gods again.
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>>3009899
It won't. They only showed up because of the cannon.
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>>3009899
We don't have a psionic canon so hopefully they won't show up, but if they arrive we need to GTFO. We have a 0% chance of winning that battle.
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>>3009897
We can simply tell them we're setting off a bomb that will confuse anything psionic for X minutes whenever they say the word.
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>>3009884
can I suggest we give a 'retreat when about to lose' order to our Hive Ship before we kill the signal?
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>>3009904
They don't even know what psionics ARE anon. "Yesterday" their secretary of intelligence was speculating it was like a kind of radiation. They lack the background to make sense of that statement. This would also make them put 100% of their R&D resources into developing their own psionic jammer since it would be such an effective weapon against the Hive. We don't want them investigating psionics yet.
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>>3009907
Memory crystals render them mostly useless though
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>>3009858
Bet the Union brass will feel pretty stupid about nuking themselves after the Ceph just tore through their capital fleet.
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>>3009896
all fairness, ceph neutrino lances are pretty much 1 hit KO weapons, not to mention that their slip drives can do the same thing.
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>The ceph Void Cutters are basically screeching out the psionic equivalent of snackbars on loudspeakers
>mfw I have no face
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>>3009913
Against ceph void cutters cheaper is better.
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>>3009911
Not 100% sure this is gonna completely wipe them, but yes, they should feel it nonetheless.
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>>3009917
>>3009911
It's pretty much instant karma at this.
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>>3009919
Wait, nuking themselves?
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>>3009920
The thinkers have pretty much made it a foregone conclusion that the reason killinger left the debrief early was to false flag nuke the old mothballed/useless ships in drydock in order to accelerate getting the Kings Bill put up and passed in parliament.
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>>3009920
some people are betting on that the nuking of them drydocks was done by killinger instead of the commonwealth

im betting it was just as it seems and it was by the commonwealth
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>>3009920
They used grav-weapons on themselves (at least we have good reasons to suspect it was a false-flag attack). It wasn't nukes exactly, but it was effectively a "space-nukes" equivalent.

Also, sorry for the double post, my internet is on the fritz. I deleted the other one.
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>>3009927
We could just ask the Commonwealth, if we want to settle it for sure either way.
Assuming we ask the right person, anyway. It might not have been something decided from the top.
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>>3009925
>>3009927
That's laughably ridiculous. First of all these aren't just your garden variety nuclear warheads we're talking here, we're talking about grav-warheads, a platform massively more destructive. There's no way the devastation (in many cases next to the heart of Union urban centers) could be passed off as worth while for a few cheap political points, even for someone like Killinger. If he was willing to go that far he could just as easily rig up a nuclear strike and blame it on the Commonwealth, the reaction would be mostly the same without the cost.
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>>3009931
that a thing aint it
Theres so many players and shadowruns going on that it is possible for the nukes to be a self hit

Now personally i think it was the commonwealth because i doubt killinger could get permission to waste that many assets by the rest of the union inner council and also wants to win the war with the commonwealth with the union relative intact
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>>3009931
No objections here to trying to know for sure. We also need to upgrade our intel department for gathering info from the CW. Rusenthal will be a good start, but we can do better.
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>>3009936
I think Killinger may have contacts within the CW or that this was a rogue attack by CW agents that high command did not authorize, but that they will have to claim they ordered or risk displaying a deadly lack of control over their own military.
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>>3009884
Your Hive Ship steels its mind, and after a moment of charging its thoughts, a wave of scrambled, tachyonic screams flood out over Gemini orbit. The cutters scramble, their formations obliterated into meaningless swarms as their sensors turn to static and their drive wings flicker with inconsistency and hesitation. Your own ships vanish from your mind, their thoughts drowned out by the overwhelming force of the psionic jammer.

Your ships continue to fire, more disordered, more chaotic, but still functional, and they tear into the ceph in their moment of hesitation. The small craft pop and burst like popcorn kernels in an open flame, and your fleets keep the flame held close. You lose several more ships, but this time each one is well earned, sloppily killed by panicked hip-fire and clumsy swarming passes. You watch as a cutter misses its strike as its wing passes just shy of a hive cruiser, and then comes around for another pass, instead ramming into the vessel, carving deep into the cruiser's hull but at the cost of its own life. Others move out into the open, driven away from their tight formations by panic and disunity and are quickly burned from the sky by focused point defence.

The battle shifts quickly. They have lost the element of surprise, and now the element of coordination, and the battle has quickly shifted into one of attrition, a battle they cannot fight. You begin to feel the flashes of psionic retreat as cutters dive into the Void, vanishing from spacetime in sudden bursts as their slipdrives invert and fold in on themselves, vanishing into nothingness. Before long the Ceph begin to follow en masse, unable to communicate, the first to flee triggers a route, and they are in full retreat.

Far below the battle, Lee watches the sky with some concern as the sudden wave of tachyons strains his mind and clouds his thoughts. Down the road, a horrible dread is felt, and then drowned out in mental screaming as your Hive Ship continues its mental shriek.
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>>3009942
>Down the road, a horrible dread is felt, and then drowned out in mental screaming as your Hive Ship continues its mental shriek.

Yeah I was worried about this.
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>>3009942
Good to know the old psionic jammer signal is still the most effective defense vs Ceph.

Also
>Down the road, a horrible dread is felt, and then drowned out in mental screaming as your Hive Ship continues its mental shriek.
Those poor, poor, Valen.
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And now we turn to the delivery people.

>"This is why we want ALL of the Void Shards. So that you don't have to deal with THAT without us right next to you."
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>>3009942
clean up for leftover void shards or ceph cutters are gonna be a bitch in this system
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>>3009942
Down the road, a horrible dread is felt, and then drowned out in mental screaming as your Hive Ship continues its mental shriek.

Ah crap did a active void shard just land near lee? im hoping its a reference to the whales but qd always said next door when remarking on them, not down the road
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>>3009948
I think you mean space snail.
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>>3009945
I can't wait to hear of what they tell their human coworkers what they saw during the battle.
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>>3009942
This gets me thinking; we know it's possible (although we cannot yet do it) to build things out of pure thought. When screaming at the Ceph vessels, they clearly suffer in their ability to navigate and target.
Could we build walls and curtains out of thoughts in order to provide concealment for our vessels against the psionic-based Ceph void cutter targeting and navigation systems? To put them at a disadvantage whenever we fight them, without having to mong our forces every time.
Or perhaps I have an inaccurate idea of what's going on and the potential of thought-constructs.
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>>3009953
My understanding is that it would only matter in the uh "astral realm" for lack of a better word.

Thought realm?
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>>3009953
Tachyonic constructs shouldn't work like that but I'd imagine it's possible to create self-contained packages space magic that are basically psionic spells using that tech.
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>>3009942
>as your Hive Ship continues its mental shriek.
Uh, do our guys know how to turn it off?
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>>3009960
Shadow realm?
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>>3009966
It's the place where Seiner's mind is right now, and probably the same place called "no space" by the Ceph navigators, maybe the same place the Void live in?

Shadow Realm does have a good ring to it because the Void were banished to that place and it goes with the whole light/dark and seeing/being blind thing we've had going on with psionics metaphors.
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>>3009946
>>3009943
>>3009945

You know what time it is bois? TIME FOR LOOT ROLLS!!
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>>3009960
>>3009966
Void.
>>Psionic Thought Construction
>The brief understanding granted to you by your examination of the contents of the white crystal given to you by your late mother, you realize that tachyons, like nearly any other form of particle, can be used in the construction of physical objects. Such constructs are inherently unstable outside of the multidimensional space of the Void, however, but allow for the construction machines of immeasurable complexity with relatively little effort by constructing them in a space where thoughts can be projected as concrete materials.
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>>3009952
>Run Valen cleaning service in Gemini
>Credits are pretty good, I’m likely to find a mate this year.
>Aww_Yeah.jpg

>Suddenly, weird ass space bugs show up.
>I see them sometimes when I’m visiting the local embassy. They give me the creeps.
>It’s like a million dischordant souls are whispering and warping my very soul.
>Also, stock market crashes and I lose much of my money. Mate leaves me.
>No_Booty.sad

>suddenly hear angry shouting coming from space. People start saying it’s a Ceph attack but I can’t think for shit.
>then it turns into a fucking banshee wail that permeates my entire being.
>Can’t move, can’t think, body overwhelmed by pure fury and pain.
>Somehow survive.

>Fuck this noise, the Capital sucks. I’m moving to Talgo instead, I heard it’s much quieter there.
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>>3009970
Not to be confused with The Void, the masters of psionic constructs that live there. It's a bit confusing, but so's the Void I guess.
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>>3009972
Reflects in Brackish Water has had a hard life.
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Well now that the Union had a taste of two of the factions in the expanse i wonder if they will deliver the Void shards or keep holding then.
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>>3009858
>>3009874
Supporting this >>3009861
>Activate the psionic jammer

>>3009864
Eh, for all it's worth the Valen will be comfortably numb, what with less psychic screams on the air.
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>>3009981
SO SLOW
You should be ashamed
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>>3009981
Fuck, my auto-update borked itself a bit. Nice to see the result on the Ceph tho.
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>>3009969
Oh my god if we find intact void shards in the wreckage this whole affair would have been more than worth it.
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>>3009986
>using auto update

why
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>>3009990
Ceph ships are generally designed to suck up any wreckage when destroyed, but there is a small chance we will find a new Void shard if for some reason one didn't self-destruct entirely (which may have been caused by our jamming?)
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>>3009942
Your corvette releases the shuttle, and as it slowly drifts into the maw of Builder's Gift's docking bay, a chitinous claw reaches out to catch it, pulling it in gently as the docking seal closes with a hiss. A swarm of workers, each laden with the last of your scientific instruments, files out and quickly scurries into the medical center where already several humans have managed to find themselves. Several pods sit along the walls with humans floating within as their bodies are quickly purified of various mixture of potent and often contradictory or downright blatantly poisonous substances in quantities that should be unquestionably lethal. You begin to suspect some of these guests are attempting to put your medical technology to the test, that or they have mistaken it for simple magic.

In addition, the first few bands have arrived, lesser known bands who have begun to cling to the rapidly growing event in the hopes of increasing their fame. Among them are various xeno bands, such as the all taidaren band A Wretched Pairing consisting of a young taidaren matron on electric whistlehorn and her mated entourage of two sets of male triplets. The band has apparently reached some level of mainstream appeal due in large part to their use of double meanings in their songs, using a mixture of notes and lyrics to create what are effectively two songs, one as heard by taidaren ears, and another as heard by humans. The name is similar in design, with negative connotations in human languages when translated directly, but with a more nuanced, romantic meaning in the native language. Likewise, their general tone and genre differs greatly, with their songs being widely considered love songs in the native language, and having a more grunge, nihilistic appeal in translation. Another is the Ceph band A Thousand Words, a group of self-described 'wabuman', a slang term used often as an insult for Ceph who have totally scorned their native culture to embrace wider human cultures, which have adapted entirely to human originated instruments while delivering lyrics in the form of a large magneto-plasma holo-display as a form of pyrotechnic aspect.

You continue to observe the various guests as, with alarming frequency, your workers barge into hotel rooms and carry out unconscious visitors as they convulse on some manner of alien chemical, and toss them into the emergency medical schute. A simple grav-plated tunnel not all that different to an advanced laundry chute, but intended for injured guests, which leads directly to the ward's medical facility. Elizabeth watches as another floats by only to be caught in the large pillow like structure at the end and bounced into an open medical pod.

"There goes another one." She says. "Looks like the tairen got into human liqueur and managed to down just about the whole bottle before the shock kicked in." She looks over to several workers as they finish placing the various research instruments into the lab.

Cont.
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>>3009996
>A Wretched Pairing
> A Thousand Words

Grunge metal woodstock, this amazing
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>>3009996
Man and the party hasn't even started yet. After this concert the word about our biotech gonna be legendary.
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>>3009996
>and toss them into the emergency medical schute

Uh... If its so bad that we require express medical chutes are we going to be in trouble? Unless we can get the Doctor Snipers like someone suggested a thread ago I dont think we will be able to deal with even larger numbers of experimenters.

Or is this just early stress testing for the industrial medical service complex we are working up to?
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I just had the thought that if Humanity got a psionic jammer device, they might be able to create perpetually jammed locations, as they are not affected by it.
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>>3010004
i blame it on people just saying fuck it and why not since we declared will patch them up
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>>3010004
We will only get in trouble if someone dies. Beside this is a good test of our medicine and make us able to learn about human and alien culture if someone keeps trying to kill himself he gets a parasite in the medic tank. After the fourth overdose you get a parasite because no one should be doing that kind of stuff really.
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>>3010009
Incorrect. Prolonged exposure to any psionics will drive them insane.
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>>3010009
Well thank fuck they don't have it. Also i guess Union does have void cultists infiltrated in their mix? Because i remember we requested the shards yo be delivered to our Hibe Ship and moments later the Ceph launch a attack on our ship and over the Union Capital world.
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>>3010013
Or make their brains go gooey. At least that's what i remember from Elizabeth experiments human brains actually start to break once they get exposed to to much psionics.
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>>3010014
I don't think those were related, as it has been a day between those events.
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>>3010014
well maybe, we know there is a active void cult in the expanse we just took over, but i think we were just asking to be attacked since we parked a hive ship there for so long to be honest

I mean come on, were just taunting the void gods to try to blow it up by placing it there for so long and also doing the ancient empire spiel to the union before they got a chance to do it
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>>3009996
"You know I think they're just starting to do this deliberately." She says. "They're just swapping drugs between species now. They're going to be shooting up with drain cleaner by tomorrow at this rate." She lets out a sigh and chuckles softly. "Well, I suppose that wouldn't be a problem with this medical tech either." Another guest shoots by in the tube on the screen, this one a Ceph covered in some manner of paint, the effect of which is extreme hallucinations when used to coat a limb or two, but can cause neurological failure in an overdose, such as when a Ceph decides to literally paint their whole body, as this one has. Shortly after, a taidaren triplet set, bundled into a knot of mange, soaked in ammonia based industrial cleaners, and after than, a human, followed shortly by his own arm, and the outstandingly high Ceph that tore it off while on a 'bad trip' on something he received from the human in question. You wonder if there was some antipathy between them but apparently such dismemberment is a natural precursor to traditional Ceph mating rituals. Several more Ceph follow, all missing a tentacle or two, and you are able to guess at their activity prior to their overdose before they make it into the pods, and then a taidaren who had managed to break something rather... important mid-activity, and a human who knowingly consumed a deadly allergy to 'see what it tasted like' after someone bet them three credits.

Elizabeth quickly catalogs each case as the pods tend to their wounds and chemical imbalances, logging their emotional condition and archiving a momentary flash recording of their memories, less a proper recording and more a simple image of their cultural identity, a mixture of likes and dislikes to be used by your City's many restaurants, bars, clubs, and shops. You figure it would be the least they could offer in exchange for having to clean up after them. Elizabeth lets out a chuckle of mild disbelief as she recognizes the mental pattern of someone who arrives in the pods for the third time tonight, and quickly marks the pod to make a more detailed archive of the individual's memories as she marks the stubborn human a high risk individual who may require a flash cloning if his penchant for consuming overt deadly poisons in high quantities on a dare continues.

"I think we may need to keep a close eye on that one." Elizabeth says. She waves her hand, and a machine rises from the back of a worker and begins to float across the room as the worker skitters away. Several others arrive with a small platter of various samples of local food to be tested when a small mental alarm goes off in her head, and a thought sends a holoscreen image to life with a view of one of the docking clamps. As it opens Lyle walks out into the loading area, hopping several times as if to test the gravity.

"Didn't know you liked this kinda music." Jackob says.

"I don't, but did you see the number of bars this place has?

cont.
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...I honestly hope that we haven't bitten off more than we can chew.

And that we didn't inadvertently send Elizabeth on a working vacation.
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>>3010020
Second best son is back!
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>>3010020
Fucking cokeheads, jesus. Maybe we should test-engineer safer narcotic alternatives.
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>>3010020
I wonder how many of these high risk patients are testers sent by medi corps to gauge how fucked they are if we decide to corner the medi markets
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>>3010026
Well we can read their minds (and plant suggestions) so I'm sure we'd know.
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>>3010026
Enough of them. Prepare to get lobbied against HARD.
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>>3010020
And the legions of teenager Skyl aren't even here yet...

Also, wow, these guys are exactly as depraved as I feared.
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>>3010026
Oh a good amount to be sure. However the tech gap between us is too great to worry about for dozens of years. I would rather wait until we see how bad it is after Lyle tries all the drugs while he can. This might cause a ruckus or two. Should we disable his parasite while he is on vacation?
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>>3010020
Oh hey, Lyle and the boys are attending the concert. Can't say I'm surprised, given it's the biggest party for 40 light years in every direction, but it's good to see them out and about.
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>>3010020
huh is lyle pissed we didnt set up a bar for him back at home?

well maybe annoyed really
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>>3010020
"Well, I guess he's not wanted in Hive space at least." Elizabeth says. "Still, maybe let him get drunk in the next ward over." Elizabeth examines the screen as she switches it back to showing various medical data, and quickly turns away as something falls along the shelves of the far wall. She looks to see a small jar holding some manner of alien brain sample composed of multiple species genetic data sits on the floor in a soft white-grey heap in a puddle of liquid and broken glass. She curses under her breath as her weaver limbs thrust her into the air over the desk and she floats the rest of the way, and levitates the jar's remains to eye level. She examines the shelf curiously, looking for any instability in the chitin board before hurling the broken mess into the maw of a recycling vat.

"It was a failure anyways." She says dismissively. She turns as a flash of movement passes the corner of her eye. She stops, dropping to the floor as several papers settle along the floor beside her desk and a pen rolls off the table. Her fingerbone antenna ripple along her scalp as she walks over to the desk, the papers and pen floating back in place at her thoughts.

"You're not testing some kind of stealth drone I don't know about, are you?" She asks. You have several, but all of them are known to her, and none of them have been stationed within the medical facility. Elizabeth examines the air vents, wondering if some irregularity may have blown her papers, and there is another brif movement in the corner of her vision.

cont.
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>>3010028
Then we implant those that are and make then leak stuff from their companies.
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>>3010041
Motherfucker.
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>>3010041
Ghost of Seiner? Theseus?
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Uh, guys. Where exactly are we dumping them off after we send them through the medical facility? I propose that we leave them far away from the concert areas so that they have to hoof it back if they want to get back into the action. A mild detriment, but it might stop some of the more foolhardy ones from injecting themselves right after they get back on their feet.

Also no Valen through the tubes yet. Are they too big to fit through?
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>>3010041
again we were asking for everyone to sneak in by doing this party

This is going to be alot of shenanigans
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>>3010041
And in the distance, we hear: SNEAK SNEAK SNEAK
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>>3010048
We could request Theseus to help out with security. Also this is why I wanted customs.
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>>3010048
we should put lyle and crew in charge of security at this point

nothing like a shadowrunner to beat other shadowrunners
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Already full on with the dangerous sex and suicidal chemical abuse. This crowd really knows how to get a pregame going I guess.

>>3010026
Let them FEAR us. Let them test. No matter what that son of a bitch Killinger spits in the ear of anyone who listens, we are not full of smoke.

>>3010028
Lets at least have the dignity to make such an act financial suicide.
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>>3010046
Eh could always put then in the pod in hibernation we did that with the Clarks crew and if any of then try to do anything to overt or we find they did ir on purpose we can just send then back with psionic imprint and have then dump all the secret of their bosses to the Hive and then we sell that info tot he Valen.
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>>3010052
Offer him an hour that he can get drunk and high for each operative that he catches. Let loose the Lyle.
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>>3010057
I like this idea. Show the man his damn carrot already.
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>>3010054
After what happen in Gemmini i think the Valen fear us even more now. If we tell then to fuck someone up after what we did on the orbit i think they will do it just to avoid the psionic screaming.
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>>3010057
Good one! Let's do it!
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>>3010057
Well there's one way of completely rooting out any possible enemy agents.
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>>3010020
>and a human who knowingly consumed a deadly allergy to 'see what it tasted like' after someone bet them three credits.

Stay strong, Peanutbro.
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>>3010057
operation: start
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>>3010060
All that I can think of when we are doing the jamming is having our thinkers shout out mentally loud, "LEELEEELEEELEEELEEE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. DOING THING FOR MOTHER, LEEELEEELEEELEEE.!"
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>>3010041
Elizabeth turns, and immediately drops her pen as a figure stands along the wall. It seems humanoid, but foggy, poorly defined. It is holding a test tube of viscous liquid in its hands, examining it inquisitively, and then vanishes. The small glass tube falling from where it was held and breaking against the floor. Elizabeth holds her head, rubbing her temples as she blinks several times in stunned silence. There was a man standing there, the test tube is shattered on the floor as proof, and then it was gone.

She sends her mind out to yours, examining every speck of the lab with your sensor clusters and feeling it with her own psionic senses but there is nothing. No, not nothing, less than nothing. It is silent, faintly muted, like a carefully assembled soundproofed room. The more she examines the lab, the more obvious it seems, and not just mentally, but literally. The glass shattering was barely audible, as if it had broken on rubber foam. The colors of the holoscreens are muted, the lights of the projectors dim and weak, although their light seems to reach just as far. Nothing has changed, and yet everything is... muted.

Elizabeth reaches out with her mind, trashing at the air as a growing torrent whips around her, sending papers spiraling and knocking over jars and beakers as it quickly forms like a tornado with her in its center.

"I know you're there!" She shouts. "I don't know what you're using to do that, but show yourself now or so help me I'll tear every inch of this place apart until I get you!" Your mind bolsters her own as you both continue to scan the room, but you find nothing. If this is some manner of psionic insulation, it is even better than what the Phantoms are capable of.

>Send a squad of warriors
>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder
>Lock down the lab with psionic shielding
>Other
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>>3010076
>Lock down the lab with psionic shielding
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>>3010076
They're using the void shards?
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>>3010076
>>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder
Seiner...is that you?
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>>3010076
Seiner?
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>>3010076
>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder
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>>3010076
>>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder
>>Lock down the lab with psionic shielding

WHY NOT BOTH?

LEAVE DAUGHTERU ALONE
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>>3010076
>>Lock down the lab with psionic shielding
That should contain or block out the Sein.
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>>3010076
super smith is on the loose for revenge
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>>3010076
>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder

Ah i take these must either be Seinner or one of the last three subjects that were being experimented with Lee in that Black site.
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>>3010085
Agreed, we should do both.
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>>3010076
>lock down lab with psionic shielding

>other. Deploy hard light shields to lock down lab
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>>3010087
This seems like a copy from the Phatoms ability to canouflage or block anyone from seeing then.
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>>3010076
>Let the children have their fun. So long as Steiner doesn't tally about for too long let them settle things.
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>>3010085
>>3010089
I think the vote to lock down the lab means effectively psionically isolating the lab and cutting ourselves off from whatever's going on down there. To do so means leaving Elizabeth to her own devices.
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>>3010085
On the chance it's an enemy and not Seiner doing some helpful pentesting without costing us anything beyond failed samples, we may want to save psionic spores for a surprise.
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>>3010095
The spores still help her if we arent there. They become her sensory network instead of ours.

>>3010096
Tit for tat. If its an enemy, we meet their card with one of ours. If its Seiner, no harm done.

We researched these things to help us fight the psionic juggernauts, so lets not pull punches okay?
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>>3010085
>Deploy psionic spores into the room to bolster Elizabeth and flush out any intruder
>Lock down the lab with psionic shielding
Agree with this. Contain while also bolstering Elizabeth's powers.
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>>3010076
It's definitely seiner on his trip isn't it
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>>3010076
>Do both

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>3010102
for mother!
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>3010102
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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>3010102
Nice penetration, Adam.
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>>3010100
Yeah but i remember thay three subjects were sent to ne worked in the Prometheus initiative. This could be a smoth with Psy cloaking...do we REALLY want to risk leaving Liz alone with that thing even if she will be powered up?

Of course it could just be Seiner but i always think i the worst case scenario.
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>>3010101
Or another subject from the black ops lab were Jack was keeping Lee and experimenting on him.
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>>3010102
Elizabeth quickly directs her thoughts, pulling a mental alarm that has your City's internal hull structure quickly flex, like a tensing muscle, sealing a wall of psionically insulative fibbers around the lab and sealing the doors, enveloping the room in a shroud of insulation like a swelling of puss around an infection. Your mind is closed of from the room directly, watching through a set of emergency sensor clusters built hardwired into the room.

"Seiner?" Elizabeth asks hesitantly. "Is that you?" You sense the hissing of your vents as your spores begin to fill the room.

"E̵v̛ę mis̨s̨e̛s ̀h͜e̡r A̵dam͡?̷ No, Í'm one ́who is so͡mewhat̷ harder to temp̀t ͢wi͘t̢h̶ ̶y̨our Ą̀͟p͡p̷͢l̀e̴̛͢." The voice is everywhere and nowhere, a faint gurgling echoing through the room. Elizabeth looks around the room, quickly looking for the source, any source of the voice, and suddenly there is a presence. A gaze upon her. She turns quickly, her mind sending several jars of fluid flying to the sides as her thoughts rush to the source in an attempt to grip it with her mind.

cont.
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>>3010129
It's that scientist from Nowhere.
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>>3010129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMrrzjELlY

"Emmerich?" She says, stunned. The figure is hardly visible, its image flickering like a poorly maintained holovid disc, its face a young man, easily in his early to mid twenties. "You're dead." Elizabeth whispers, and then she shouts. "I watched you die!"

"I did too. Watched me die, that is." The figure seems to become more clear, his face gaining definition, now that of a thirty year old, a short, raggedy beard growing on his chin. "Strange thing about a singularity, once you hit the photon sphere, everywhere you look you see the back of your own head. Once you go past that, you just see everything. I watched myself die, over and over. It was a purifying experience. An instant eternity, where time has been wrapped into a neat little knot around your soul, in the same moment, like a picture." He smiles, his face now in his forties, shaven, but unkempt, his hair tied in a small bun on the back of his head. "Fortunately I wasn't alone for all that time."

"How are you here?" Elizabeth says, spitting the words through her teeth. "Even if you survived that, this place is shielded. Psionics can't get in or out!"

"And yet..." Emmerich holds out his arms in triumphant declaration. "In truth your walls are incomplete. They cover all of your dimensions but not all of mine. Sure, it keeps you nice and quiet, but a human is a special thing. We're less the children of Eden and more the stone lodged in Abel's skull. We can go places the divine can't, see things they are far too bright to be able to make out. So here I am, squeezing myself into this little nook of yours like a rat crawling in through the toilet." Emmerich steps forward, his face now old, too old, his skin sagging and his hair thin and long. "You know it was quite a long time before I could find you. You were so... distant, so muted. I think it has something to do with that sacrilege you have bottled up with that Beast of yours. It makes things so much more difficult, but you and I, we have a bond. Our association makes finding one another so much more easy outside of our reality."

Elizabeth reaches out with her mind, gripping at Emmerich as he is pushed back by the force. Small strips of his skin flake off, as if made of old, rotted rubber, flaking away and vanishing into whiffs of smoke. He holds out his hand and leans into the force.

"Why are you here? Why now?"
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>>3010129
Are you fucking kidding me?!
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>>3010131
HAH now that is a twist
None of us were expecting that
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>>3010136
Nope. Space ghost time.
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>>3010131
Comming a little bit to strong mate. You are making us unconfortable.Eh so tha's how the Void knew about the Hive ship. Emmerich is whispering in the Union higher ups ears.
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>>3010131
Way to give away that hiding under the Psionic Shroud after the concert will prevent this repeating. You're monologuing, Winston.
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>>3010136
>>3010138
I guess the Theory of Jack being influenced by the Void (Emmerich) is not so far fetched now.
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"Well I was hoping to get to him before he managed to reach her, I figured your relation to him would make you a decent enough breadcrumb." He says. He waves off the kinetic wave, and is suddenly to her side across from the desk. "Unfortunately I seem to be a bit too late in this instance, and most of the other paths have already collapsed. Such a shame. Still, you're a big enough pain in their side to-" Elizabeth hurls the desk, flipping it over and sending it hurling towards Emmerich. A moment as it is about to impact, it decays, eroding into dust as it pours around his outstretched hand.

Elizabeth takes a deep breath as the spores begin to saturate the air. The room gains a scent of ozone as small static bolts run between the antenna in her hair. Emmerich seems to only now notice the new atmosphere, and as he raises his hand up, there is a sudden burst of flames. The outer walls flash-freeze, and fire engulfs half the room as Elizabeth's antenna flex and wrythe and her hands ripple with static discharge.

The figure stammers, and stands in the raging inferno, his face quickly decaying, falling away in chunks as black crystalline structure sprouts from beneath the skin.

"You think I haven't learned to deal with a little fire?" He says. "I've watched stars burn to ash. I've seen a countless infinities play out, every one I see ending the same. Entropy. Decay. This is a temporary reality, Elizabeth. You're on the wrong side."

"I think I'll take my chances!" She shouts back.

>Send drone reinforcements
>Attempt to focus your mind to further boost Elizabeth's abilities
>Other (write in)
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>>3010144
Because he thinks the Void is God. Also that cult in Talgo just became even more dangerous now.
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>>3010148
>Attempt to focus your mind to further boost Elizabeth's abilities
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>>3010148
>Wait could a Jammer work here?
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>>3010151
Do we really want our mind to touch against someone that was tainted by the void? That is such a obvious trap.
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>>3010148
>>Attempt to focus your mind to further boost Elizabeth's abilities
Not like drones would be much help here
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>>3010148
>other
Supersaturate the air in there with spores, and send in ghost beetles.

If all else fails, do we have a psionic jammer lying around, or did we just have the one on the Hive ship?
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>>3010148
>>Attempt to focus your mind to further boost Elizabeth's abilities
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>>3010148
>Attempt to focus your mind to further boost Elizabeth's abilities
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>>3010148
How did he even know about Adam's uplifting?

Also, 3-dimensional psionic insulation is confirmed not to block 4-dimensional void projection. At least not entirely. It does make it harder.
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>>3010153
Well Lee seems to be fine. So maybe?But we don't habe a Jammer installed here.

>>3010148
>Other (Blink the Hive Ship near the statiin and Jam the fucker)
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>>3010148
>Send drone reinforcements
Speakers to yell at him (psionically)
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>>3010151
>>3010155
>>3010156
>>3010159
Yeah he finds connections useful. More intimate mind contact will create a new link between the Queen and Emmerich, not quite as strong as the one with Vaughn. That'd be chipping away at our long term defenses.
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>>3010161
This is a projection of his mind. A jammer could damage it.
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>>3010164
Oh a army of speaker drones!But touching his mind directly will make our children taste the void. Maybe if we use Elizabeth as a proxy we can do this.
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>>3010148
And this is why we should have fucking destroyed that hell gate of his when we had the damn chance....
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>>3010166
We aren't connecting to him we are connecting to her.
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>>3010167
Send the jammer bois! Let's kick this fucker out of our party crib!
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>>3010148
Looks like we have two popular options:

>Boost Elizabeth's abilities with your mind
>Activate psionic jamming
>Other
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>>3010170
And she is having a psy fight with him making a connection between him, Vaugh and the Queen.

Of course that would most likely depend on how high we roll i guess.
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If you anons will recall, Morgan gave us a Q-comm in case we had anything urgent and/or dangerous to tell him.
As unpopular as it may be; I think he (or if we trust Killinger knowing it - the parliament) deserves to know that The Void has one of the Union's top scientists. And that Emmerich has not only completely fucking lost his marbles but is also able to "see everything, be everywhere." Anyone with a close connection to Emmerich is at risk of being visited, or used as a point from which he can manifest.
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>>3010172
>Activate psionic jamming
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>>3010172
>Activate psionic jamming
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>>3010174
THIS.
Do this right now.
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>>3010174
Yeah Jack and Killinger are completely compromised...they will surrely become our enemies in the Union power base.
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>>3010174
Nothing they do can help against that. And it would rob us of our own spying abilities if they could.

Well could just assassinate everyone Winston ever knew in life I suppose.
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>>3010178
>>3010174
I say we only tell it to Morgan we need to get him out of being influenced by Killinger.
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>>3010174
THIS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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>>3010180
Well now we have a real reason to spy on the Union.
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>>3010172
>>Activate psionic jamming
The spore cloud counters most of the ill effects of jamming.

Could send drones at the same time.
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>>3010172
>Activate psionic jamming

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.

Also:

>contact Morgan via the emergency Qcomm and inform him about Emmerich (write in what details you wish to tell him)
>Do not
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>3010186
>>Do not
This can WAIT. What is Morgan gonna do about it besides brood and loudly think about it and Emmeric a lot??
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>3010186
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>>3010182
>>3010178
>>3010174
No that will just make then paranoid and have Emmerich influence then even more. The only way to defeat this is using shadowrun tactics anons.
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Rolled 94 (1d100)

>>3010186

>CALL MORGAN
"WE DID NOT CONTAIN NOWHERE. YOUR SCIENTIST IS A PSIONIC GHOST! PANIC"
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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>3010186
For the mother!
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>>3010193
And anyone thinking about Emmerich is easier for Emmerich to spy on.

You dun goofed.
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>3010186
>Do not

The spice must flow!
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>>3010186
>Do not
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>>3010193
Thank you thinker for this roll
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>>3010193
Good roll!! YOU AND YOUR SELF PROCLAIMED GOD HAVE NO POWER OVER HERE EMMERICH!!
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>>3010188
>>3010192
>>3010193
On thinking about it, this would actually be a pretty bad time to send him an emergency message. He's probably in a meeting dealing with yesterday's gravity-nuke and today's Ceph incursion. It can wait, but I still think we should tell him, if only to ask what the fuck the Void now knows that could be dangerous to us.

>>3010186
>do not
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>>3010188
>What is Morgan gonna do about it besides brood and loudly think about it and Emmeric a lot??
The point isn't getting help from Morgan, it's to inform them that there is now a union scientist gone turncoat that can penetrate their defenses and spy on them which helps us to drive the point further that void crystals ain't something you fuck with.
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>>3010186
>Do not
not until we have more details since if we do tell him it may backfire and make him easier for emmerich to effect him
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GIYS DON'T DO IT REMEMBER THE VOID WORKS IF YOU THINK ON IT IT WILL EFFECT YOU THINKING ON EMMERICH WILL MAKE HIM ABLE TO MANIFEST IN OTHER PLACES!
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>>3010203
yep
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>>3010186
>Do not

You guys are probably gonna hate this, but I think we should call it a night here. It's 7am where I am.

There will be a special mid-week thread this wednesday on Halloween, however, and due to the rapid fire threads and tonnes of happenings, next sunday will probably be a .5 so we can wrap up all the loose ends we've got.
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>>3010201
And doing that will just increase his bound with the others and make him able to influence then even more strongly
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>>3010206
Thanks for the run QD. This thread was pretty cool.
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>>3010206
thanks for running, its been a wild ride
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>>3010201
That has a rather glaring possibility of backfire.

>So you're saying we can spy on the Commonwealth with these things like ghosts? THINK of the POSSIBILITIES
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>>3010206
thanks for running.
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>>3010206
It's the Ghost of Halloween Past visiting us, isn't it? prepare for two more, then.
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>>3010206
We haven't colonized Billiard or repaired Calpamos station with the new research unlocked yet. We gotta do that since we're settling the Expanse.
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>>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

Well we finally got to see how that worked. Lucky.
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>>3009935
> he could just as easily rig up a nuclear strike and blame it on the Commonwealth,

Well no. He couldn't. ISGMs are the only feasible interstellar weapon that can be fired from deep space or a different star system so you can't actually tell who launched it.

Nobody would dedicate enough Canderon to an FTL kamikaze attack all for a merely atomic warhead. It makes no military sense when you can weaponize the canderon too.
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So now we know we got hit over the head with what the glass butterflies in Seiner's first vision actually were.

>>3009911
And since the Void Cutters were clearly only here to target the hive ship, they will blame us and the Agitation reaching 15/15 stars will be directed against the hive.

We gotta control the spin, or we turn this to our advantage by making a deal. They spin the PR so that the hive was heroically defending human space, and that the ceph were totally not picking the hive as its main target, and we agree to be on call to blink in for other Ceph raids in Union space.
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Looks like we need to change research.
We need to be able to build in the void dimension just to have defenses, else this bullshit and the void cutters bypassing shields and armor is going to continue.
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>>3010339

The thing is.

The Ceph have been raiding the humans almost literally forever, and the humans can never figure out a reason why. It's like blaming the rich family that just moved into the neighborhood for your house being broken in when you chose to live in the ghetto of Detroit and have had your house broken into before.
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>>3010148
>"Well I was hoping to get to him before he managed to reach her, I figured your relation to him would make you a decent enough breadcrumb." He says. He waves off the kinetic wave, and is suddenly to her side across from the desk. "Unfortunately I seem to be a bit too late in this instance, and most of the other paths have already collapsed.

Motherfucker he was after Seiner.
But that also means that wherever Seiner has gone to, he can't follow.

>>3010339
>>3010342
It's not too farfetched either way, but unless we have information that says otherwise, this seems to be the largest raid by Ceph Voidcutters so far, and Occam's razor seems that the big juice hive ship thats been sitting in orbit for weeks is the target.
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>>3010339
Actually, the planet's Agitation score represents the local populace's view of the owning faction. It doesn't represent the locals' view of you, nor is it an approval rating, as a popular administration can still have high Agitation, and an unpopular government can have a low Agitation. It's simply a representation of the level of unrest on a planet. The population's view of the Hive is, in general, a somewhat more partisan issue, but overall would be more accurately represented by the Suspicion score.

A planet that reaches max suspicion will face wide scale riots and possible attempted revolts directed against the planet's current owners.
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>>3010350
We have to keep Seiner safe once he returns from his journey. At this stage, his value to our cause is second only to our own.
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>>3010131
>We're less the children of Eden and more the stone lodged in Abel's skull. We can go places the divine can't, see things they are far too bright to be able to make out.
Well shit, the Void knows humans are weapons that can see in the dark. That is really, REALLY, fucking bad.

>>3010350
Shit, you're right he was definitely after Seiner. Let's lock Seiner down for the moment. We can't afford for them to have a psychic fight on Leeland and he is much less directly powerful than Elizabeth. Let's also give Seiner and Elizabeth both some psychic guards ASAP. Maybe those Myrmidon Chimera since they're specced for anti-void psionics.
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>>3010373
The psychic safeguards we have seem to only be partially successful at this time. We need void defenses in the alternate dimension or they can just waltz around when they have a vector in the area like the ceph raiders.

We can't cower under the jammer ourselves forever, though maybe we should look into the scav communication systsem for our forces who are fighting under it, so they can at least still communicate on a wide spectrum.
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>>3010378
Some of our research:
>Multidimensional Physics (slightly dangerous)
and
>Non-euclidean Architecture (dangerous)
may help to protect against the void eventually.

As for the jammer - if we ever have to jam the queen herself for protection we can probably let our daughter the scarred queen take over running the empire for a while. It's extremely far from optimal, but we have that failsafe. I think we also constructed a psi-proof panic room for he queen - but this latest attack shows that would probably be ineffective vs Emerich.
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>>3010390
I was thinking using the scent communication to try mitigate the loss of co-ordination under jammer we see when fighting the ceph void cutters.
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>>3010391
Although if we flood the internals of our ships or the fronteers of a battlefield with the psy spores then they could be used as short range messenger points to "ping" information throughout the ship/area without needing the direction of the queen. Just have to use thinker minds with more autonomy than our standard children as the ship mind.
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>>3010368
>A planet that reaches max suspicion will face wide scale riots and possible attempted revolts directed against the planet's current owners.

You meant max Agitation, right?

But right, I guess only half of them would take the angle of hating their government because "why aren't you shooting the hive out of the sky right now?!" and another half would be the opposite of "why didn't you appease them sooner?!"

Max Agitation sure seems like the perfect excuse to institute martial law or declare emergency powers, though.
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>>3010342
The Ceph are opportunists and raiders who have gone after nearly defenseless ships in transit between worlds. They have probably never been so brazen as to attack a planet, let alone the best defended planet in the entire Union, the capital.

And you can see, clearly, from their motions in battle, anyone who reviews the military footage in detail can see plain as day they were making a beeline for the hive ship.

It was their best chance to take something precious from the hive when it was practically undefended, because, as QD pointedly pointed out,
> Your fleet in support of your Hive ship is nearly depleted, with almost every vessel diverted elsewhere

It was as defenseless as a hive ship is gonna get.
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>>3010406
Yes, right, sorry. My work schedule was changed again so I'm actually just staying awake all day to get back onto the new schedule. My mind isn't quite all there at the moment as a result.

>>3010401
It should be noted that the spores are not themselves psionic. They don't actually send or receive psionic signals, but instead they 'bounce' them and amplify them as they pass through the spore cloud. Think of them as being sorta like a highly conductive liquid. If you make a puddle of the liquid, you won't get shocked by walking through it, but if you have an electrical wire on the ground, even if it's a safe distance away, if it's touching the same puddle you are, you will end up getting zapped. Spore clouds work the same way. There still needs to be a relay chain that ends with you in order to connect to you, but the spore clouds can be used to fill in gaps where your relays would otherwise not quite reach. This effect would probably be most useful on alien planets and battlefields since your own worlds are already covered by your relays. It is also highly effective when used by your psion units, such as medium relay equipped drones or Psion agents, as it will buff their abilities dramatically and extend their effective ranges.

However, it should be noted that these range boosts tend to not apply to any target that is outside of the spore cloud, as the boost comes from the fact that the cloud is serving as a conductor, transmitting the psionic signal from one point to another that it would otherwise not be able to reach.

Also, I recall someone asking about it earlier, but the psionic spore is an upgrade to your existing hive spores which serve to spread hive creep and attack enemies with toxins. It's the same spore, and can do all three at once, meaning if you wanted to really go full HAM on a planet, you could block out the sun with poison spores that manipulate the mind, buff your psionics, are deadly to breath, and grow hive creep all over everything. You can also have it do one or the other, such as make it non-toxic, or have it not grow hive creep for more subtle use.
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>>3010390
Non-euclidean Architecture is one of the most dangerous and powerful techs on the tree.
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>>3008557
>While gas giants have been colonized by the single-minded using small, roving airship settlements for many generations, these small, often makeshift mobile structures are not capable of economic scale production, and thus despite being a decent choice for non-hive settlers living in small numbers, are not economically viable for a hive's more efficient industrial scale organization. In response to this, research has been done to produce far larger city-sized mega-structures held within the upper atmosphere of a gas giant consisting of interconnected floating platforms in which all manner of planetary infrastructure can be built. With this technology, gas giants can now be more properly surveyed and colonized on a large scale. A gas giant's Development score will represent the construction of these platforms spread across the planet and connected via cables supported by floating way stations as needed, providing places for both non-hive life to live, and room to build planetary facilities.

Planetary Gas Giant Hives when?
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>>3008740
>not slipping spores into ALL the water supplies.
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Well time to blink away the Hive ship for ressuply and blink some ships (i would advise 3 or 4 fleets) on Gemmini.
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>>3010437
>you could block out the sun with poison spores that manipulate the mind, buff your psionics, are deadly to breath, and grow hive creep all over everything.
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>>3010373
>Maybe those Myrmidon Chimera since they're specced for anti-void psionics.
It's been pointed out they're not even that great at anti-void stuff despite the "attempt" at spec I got them.
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>>3010465
>I got them
Wait what the fuck was I doing here?
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>>3010465
I think the Myrmidons have white crystal relays the same as Elizabeth. What else would be more powerful to have a mind-fight with?
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>>3010437
>if you wanted to really go full HAM on a planet, you could block out the sun with poison spores that manipulate the mind, buff your psionics, are deadly to breath, and grow hive creep all over everything.

Bueno
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>>3010477
Thermokinesis
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>>3010378
>>3010390
We could maybe use Non-Euclidian Architecture and Multidemsional Physics to construct a 4th dimensional wall all over Hive space, and human space, and just everywhere that isn't the OQ's place, and just block the Void and its servants out. Maybe.
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>>3010437
>You could block out the sun with poison spores that manipulate the mind, buff your psionics, are deadly to breathe and grow hive creep over everything

Deploying this WMD on the Ceph worlds when?
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>>3010484
Do they need a special upgrade for that, or can the relay they have handle it? If they need the upgrade we should give it to them.

Maybe we should make more hybrids with max psionic upgrades that are more capable in jamming than a chimera.
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>>3010499
We need to research it

>Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory. (Basicaly we can bur and freeze sruff with our mind)

>Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory. (Lightning power [insert unlimited power meme here])
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>>3010516
boy, You're telling me we could bring an active, shielded fusion reactor to a battle-field, and use psionic conduction to pump it's power output directly into our enemies?
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Hmm, if we get all the "Kinesis" upgrades to our psionic arsenal, wouldn't be eventually just be full-on psychokinetics?

Then again, one must wonder if that isn't how our distant cousins became as they are now, Void.
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>>3010516
>>3010519
Jesus. I just realized another combat application.
A battleship/hive ship/Star Hive being besieged on all sides and overheating from its shields.
It just uses Psionic Conduction to pump all of its excess heat into the enemy fleet.
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You know laying new queens is looking more attractive by the day.
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>>3010526

The problem is that it's a potential double-edged sword.

Our Daughter-Queens would be their own people instead of extensions of our will, they WILL seek out their own domains, have their own motivations and habits, have their own opinions and resolve to act on those opinions and beliefs.

Why, some might even decide that becoming a Void Thrall would be a good idea, the OQ is obviously prospering and those Void Cutters were some bullshit.

Or perhaps, they might decide that Dear Old Mom doesn't need that many resource-rich worlds and that they would be better used under their management to build their fleets and cripple our economy.

Maybe they'll just take a pod or Hiveship and just decide to fuck off to another Galaxy, or something.

Even in the era of the Old Queens, when the Void War was in full-swing, Queens fought among themselves.

I'm not saying it's an inherently bad idea, but it's an idea that has a lot of potential edges that can hurt us.
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>>3010534
And as QD has pointed out, in several threads, a Daughter Queen would listen to their mother and do what is asked of her.
The only real difference between a Queen and any other drone is that they have a free will and are the center of their own Hive network. They still owe allegiance to their mother-hive and show reverence to their Mother. They're just not as fanatical and zealous about it as common drones.

It takes something major to shake a Daughter Queen's trust and allegiance to their Mother Queen, and they would never go directly against them. (unless we end up like the Ancient Hives with vast expanses of the galaxy to rule between us and no enemy to align together against.)

Hell, unlike the Ancient Hives, we have the bonus that there are no longer any concrete Hive traditions, or societal expectations for their behavior, so we could practically mold them to almost any personality we'd wish (through genetic engineering and then raising them right).
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>>3010534
I kind of have to agree. The scarred queen is loyal because she lived the experience of “losing” for tens of thousands of years. She knows exactly how high the stakes are and how she owes us absolutely everything. She also doesn’t have to compete against any younger queens. Adding more queens (which will require their own systems) would be a good research boost, but we need to realize they may be less likely to be as hyper-loyal to us. That being said, knowing the OQ is a queen-killer and threat will probably serve to keep them docsile at least for a while.
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Union military has an field day today, analyzing our rather poor combat performance against cepth.
Makes one wonder how we have survived this long if cepth can this easily kill our capital ships.

We need to build more cheap fleets, that focus on speed and firepower only.
Shielded high tech ships are wasted in situations like these.
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Every time the void cutters invade a system, they use their ability to shift through dimensions to attack and bypass defenses. Can we make something akin to a dimensional anchor?
Once we understand the transition requirements could we project something akin to the psionic clouding technique into the void dimension to force their co-ordination to break?

If we can just straight up rob them of the ability to utilize the voids plane while in system with our forces then we could make this a much more even fight.
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>>3010545
It might pay to move every expensive fleet with some throw away chaff in future yes. But they wont think too little of our forces since once we engaged the jammer we mopped them up rather neatly, despite losses. They will know we have some method of fucking with the cephs co-ordination that also messes with our own.
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>>3010534
So you're just going to ignore everything mentioned in quest/on the ask.fm and make assumptions.
>>3010541
Read the post above you. It's been stated they would be super loyal and would avoid causing us trouble.
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>>3010373
>We can't afford for them to have a psychic fight on Leeland

He explicitly spelled out that even with his bond to Vaughn he was utterly unable to get to her until she left Leeland's protective psionic shroud.

Leeland has the single most effective defense against the Void already established. It's fine.

That they sent Emmerich to manifest and tip their hand at all, in a doomed-to-fail assassination attempt, combined with the raid that reeks of desperation, the enemy is scared.

That or they really want to scare the hive into some kind of overreacting overreach.

>>3010341
Like this.

Researching dangerous fields with anyone but Reticent Seiner is just going to make the enemy more and more capable of peering into and interacting with the hive.

And the jammer was super effective. They have a big psychological weak point in the Ceph pilots' utter cowardice when cut off from the group. It was a rout.

Of course now we get to look for the small chance that a neutrino beam broke free from damage to a void cutter, and is adrift in orbit to be salvaged along with our dead ships.
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>>3010549
Maybe with Multi-dimensional Physics and Non-euclidian Architecture we could set up a network of obstacles or hazards in 4th dimensional space around our Hive ships to force the Cephs to fight solely in 3 dimensional space.
Hell, we could maybe even conatruct layers upon layers of walls in it, to force the Ceph to fully enter "real-space" 100% of the time they fight us.
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>>3010555
For the record, I am fine with waiting on researching it for safety reasons, just so long as it gets done asap. We can't rely on the jammer and ignoring these events is just inviting disaster.

I think the situation we are in is the void is probing us and local potential assets to corrupt. If needs a foci to extend its will here.
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>>3010545
>We need to build more cheap fleets, that focus on speed and firepower only.
>Shielded high tech ships are wasted in situations like these.
It's not like haven't been saying this for years. Hell I wanted to ships with regular shields as a middle ground in case of Ceph attack.
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>>3010561
Another reason why Leeland is the single most defended planet in the galaxy.
With maybe the exception of any planet the Enemy was on when they dropped themselves into a black hole.
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>>3010561
We are already researching as fast as we can, nothing needs to change.

Seiner is off training on King Kai's planet in the spirit world and is going to come back with a bigger harder faster stronger specialization in Void Crafting to accelerate all his research or something.
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>>3010569
Well, we could always speed up our research by importing Human/Valen scientists (doubt that any sizable number of taidaren do science) or by laying a bunch of smarty-pants Queens specially designed to be as intelligent as possible.
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>>3010373
So... does this mean the queen should start training in psionic combat
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>>3010545
Our performance was relatively poor against the Ceph, but the Union’s performance was worse still. It wasn’t until we deployed the psionic hammer that the tide turned. It was Hive tech that “saved the day” so to speak
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>>3010555
>That they sent Emmerich to manifest and tip their hand at all, in a doomed-to-fail assassination attempt, combined with the raid that reeks of desperation, the enemy is scared.
>That or they really want to scare the hive into some kind of overreacting overreach.
It's both. They noticed we're too cautious to effectively exploit any weak points, our tech is too advanced to crush us outright, we are look into all of their stuff, and we're on the verge of reaching the same level as the ancient queens. They can feel their throne being pulled out from under them and there is nothing they can do but wait for an opportunity.
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>>3010578
The fact we detected the ceph and responded to a full on ambush despite the union sucking at it makes us look ridiculously good.
Only in our eyes did we suck. We didn't have to retreat what was essentially a diplomatic fleet. The union oughta imagine what a war fleet is like.
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>>3010580
Mama White Queen did good when she placed almost pathological paranoia into our DNA.
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>>3010588
Not only that, but we demonstrated to Union High Command that we have some kind of weapon in our arsenal that can make an entire huge Ceph ambush fleet practically useless in an instant.

Unfortunately, the Enemy might realise it too, and tell OQ to put up some kind of countermeasure. (Such as her drones having standing orders if they get cut off from her.)
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>>3009742
>>3009698
As juicy as this fight against the Ceph was, we may have tipped our hand to the Union regarding one thing:
We can detect advanced cloaking.
As in, Killinger might let his paranoia rum rampant and suspect that we could have been involved with the Mirage's destruction. Especially with our apparent alliance with the Commonwealth in our effort to purge the Scavs.
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>>3010604
Yeah well I think that's beyond our ability to cover up even without this latest event.
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>>3010613
Thankfully it might just be Killinger who would advocate for that.
Others who even know about the Mirage at all, such as their secretary would point out how apart from telling them kids to stay off our lawn, we haven't been openly hostile to them, and even warned Gemini's PDF about the incoming Ceph, and have only assisted the CW fight against a third alien race invading them.

And hell, it's not like we haven't been saying "you kids should play along, not fight."
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>>3010623
*their secretary /of defense/
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>>3010057
YES
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>>3010493
>Deploying this WMD on the Ceph worlds when?

When we send a team of Ceph chimera infiltrators to it through the Valen portal network. A fleet of void cutters won’t help the void much if we cover their hangers in toxic psionic hive creep.
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>>3010647
Yes.
All we have to do is study any and all wreckage from the desperate Ceph assault on our Hive ship, make some void-cutters of our own, filled with Hive spores and crewed by Ceph chimera
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>>3010654
We are not using void shards like that.
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>>3010604
>As in, Killinger might let his paranoia rum rampant and suspect that we could have been involved with the Mirage's destruction.
They had suspected aliens might be behind the destruction of the Mirage even before we revealed ourselves. There’s a pretty good chance they know we know about the Mirage even if they have no proof we blew it up yet.
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>>3010656
Fair.
Shards are to be kept solely in our shrouded, insulated psychic vault
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>>3008557
This...through this tech we take a step closer to surpassing the builder entirely.
I want to build a solar harvestor big enough to envelope a star, like a Dyson sphere.
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>>3008578
I feel that through living stone architecture research, and the psi cloak research we will be able to safely(relatively) research the last two dangerous ones. Through learning those two I feel that the shard cannon will become viable. But not untill the.
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>>3008911
"Musical speaker" class drone when?
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>>3010686
You are outright wrong. Non-euclidean architecture, multidimensional physics, and psionic thought construction form the basic foundation of the psionic cannon and learning them lowers the risk and difficulty of the cannon. Also those very same tech allow us to survive the endgame attack the cannon very existence provokes so no your plan isn't as viable as you wish.
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So...when Kent is finnaly found we will immediatly ask for that favour back right? What should we do? Use him to infiltrate Tadega and grab the obvious Void shard they are using the power the Ceph canon?

Because after watching this the Union might think that their best best is producing a prototype for the neutrino canon so they can face the Hive.

Even more now that Jack is being influenced by Emmerich. Also Devon should renove Morgan from being mind probe.

Not to mention this shit gonna increase the unrest in Gemini making the detection of our spy cells even more hard to conceal.
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>>3010723
>Jack is being influenced by Emmerich.
Do we have any evidence of this other than that Emmerich knew Jack and that Jack had accurate assessments of the Hive in some areas?

>Devon should renove Morgan from being mind probe.
Ummm, how? Devon is a suspect himself. Even if Devon is found to be influenced by us, they will probably still scan Morgan.

>Use him to infiltrate Tadega and grab the obvious Void shard they are using the power the Ceph canon?
Our agents are much better suited to this. At most we can parasite Kent to get all his juicy intel.
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>>3010654
The Ceph took advantage of a target they saw as vulnerable. They failed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they are desperate yet.

>>3010676
I have a feeling future queens may call us “The scientist” rather than the Red Queen sewing as we are such an amazing researcher.
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>>3010751
Jack's actions clearly show some manner of influence from our enemy.
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>>3010758
How so? Jack had several suspiciously accurate assessments of our mindset and abilities, but he is a very smart guy with a strong intelligence network. It *might* be evidence of a Void influence, but it hardly “clearly” proves anything.

I will agree, however, that we need to investigate further.
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>>3010751
>Do we have any evidence of this other than that Emmerich knew Jack and that Jack had accurate assessments of the Hive in some areas?

Jack and Killinger both knew Emmerich and both of then are seen while dealling with Devon having small ticks (Like Jack shaking his head while he goes on a rant about the Hive doing all this show do to pride.) Which ironicaly is the same sin that Lucifer is famous for.

>Ummm, how? Devon is a suspect himself. Even if Devon is found to be influenced by us, they will probably still scan Morgan.

The only think that comes to my mind is a extraction by our agents or having Devon or one of the Medics we implanted when we invaded Gemini be the one in charge of Morgan's brain scan.

>Our agents are much better suited to this. At most we can parasite Kent to get all his juicy intel.

I was more thinking in having him gather the info for us because he is human so not having the parasite makes him resistant to the void. And the main thing i want is to also test the suit in a Union military. But i do realize that a sneaking mission would be a better maneuver.
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>>3010802
I guess saying "clearly" is stretching it but it looks like something is guiding him around in retrospect not just him having good deduction.
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>>3010802
No hard evidence but you can tell that ther eis dome very worrying tells specialy after we find that Emmerich is capable of manifesting with people he used to be close or have/had a bound.
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>>3010816
>because he is human so not having the parasite makes him resistant to the void.
That's actually wrong. The presence of the parasite wouldn't affect any resistance.
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>>3010818
Yeah someone or something is whispering on Jack and Killinger's ear.
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>>3010822
Did you saw what happend when the void launched his screech in the room and fucked the clone with a parasite?
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>>3010825
All the clone had parasites.
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>>3010825
And one of the clones was psionically sensitive.
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>>3010835
i though he was only psionic sensitive because he had a parasite inside him.
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>>3010656
>>3010654
We theoretically wouldn’t even need void shards to access the Ceph home world. We could just deploy a infiltration team there through the same mode of transport Coil used to leave his world; the Valen portal system. Coil never left his world in a void cutter, he bought a ticket off of it from the whales.

If we can negotiate with them to get a couple of apparent Ceph to the world through the same service we won’t even have to resort to risky uses of void shards. And there are plenty of Ceph in the union right now who have never seen their homeworld and would if they got the chance.
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>>3010723
Favors won't need to be tallied up anymore if he gets adopted.

>making the detection of our spy cells even more hard to conceal.
High Agitation will in on second thought probably help us. It will completely wreck their counter-intelligence operations by jamming it with so much noise of so much shit happening. Riots in the streets, dogs and cats living together.

It will be like Bedrock is now, probably. Both Espionage Actions and Counter-Intelligence Actions alike will tend to fail in the chaos, and everything is less likely to be noticed.
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>>3010905
The thing is, enemy Void Projection will trivially sniff out any infiltration team. They're far from the safety of the psionic shroud.
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>>3011190
>Favors won't need to be tallied up anymore if he gets adopted.

You speak as if people won't try to go for the moral high ground and offer Kent a parasite just lile they did with Dillon. But at least he will accept the augs, maybe we can lie and tell that the parasite is needed so the augs won't be fucked because of human genetics.

>High Agitation will in on second thought probably help us.

On the planet description it says that high agitation increase the chance of having our action being found out
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>>3010658
And what are they going to do? Accuse us of blowing up their warship on a secret false flag mission to trick their population into a war while killing a major political rival?
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>>3011303
>You speak as if people won't try to go for the moral high ground and offer Kent a parasite just lile they did with Dillon.

Kent deliberately kept the truth of the Theseus instance he was using from us, not to mention the destruction of the facility itself. This could have created major political complications for us and if I recall correctly officially put Kent on the Hive’s shit-list. He is going to be added to the Hive whether he wants to join or not.
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>>3011308
We still have the recording right? Can we upload our mind into a data device? I guess we can't because that would be way to easy to defeat Killinger.

>>3011319
Not against the idea of adopting him That would be better we just need to have enough people here with guts to do it and not try playing the nice alien horror.
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>>3011197
Sure, and any human implanted with a parasite would be laughably easy for the union to indentify if scanned with a nerve stapler, but that doesn’t mean they’re not fantastically well suited for espionage.

The void is unlikely to subject every wayward Ceph returning home to the kind of scrutiny emmerich is applying to Elizabeth. They would have to have some idea of what to look for before they could find it. If you were really concerned about Ceph agents being identified we could just recruit a naturally born Ceph with no prior ties to the hive, preferably one with any memories of their encounter with the hive erased from the memories. Even if the void glanced at their past they would see a free Ceph with no knowledge of us. With our abilities we are perfectly capable of recruiting and directing agents to do our bidding without them having any idea of what they’re doing.

And remember, we would only need to smuggle one single individual to the Ceph homeworld to get all the tools we need to infest every corner of the world with creep that screams at you telepathically. I’d say that it’s well worth a shot.
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>>3011308
>>3011347
Has it ever occurred to you that the black box on the mirage has the recording of Killinger giving the orders?
Also why do you want to do this when we suspect David (Killinger's political opponent) is 100% controlled by the enemy?
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>>3011397
Dude you are doing that again in taking jokes on the internet seriously.
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>>3011439
Then try being funny.
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>>3011347
Considering that we keep sending sensor data back and forth with Theseus and Heretic, it's easy as pie.
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>>3010526
for fucks sake we've gone over this so many fucking times just stop.
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>>3011449
Well aren't you a salty drone.
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>>3011471
I think it has reached meme status by now.
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>>3011472
Deadpan would be more accurate. Your "joke" doesn't even look like one rather it appears to be a suggestion of what we should do.
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>>3011499
Sure thing pal.
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>>3011303
>On the planet description it says that

It blatantly says high Suspicion increases the likelihood of discovery. Not Agitation. Is mixing up Agitation and Suspicion spreading via brain spores or something?
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>>3011506
Believe whatever you want. All I wanted to do is tell you are unfunny and your "joke" comes off in a similar way as a feminazi screaming "KILL ALL MEN", i.e., not a joke but rather serious declaration of what actually want done which you declare as being "just a joke."
>>3011471
Gone over what again? Recruiting from the Union is starting to look untenable and risky, most of the arguments regarding laying queens revolved around opinions rather than facts (newly laid queens are very loyal, competitive, dislike sharing territory, and give a research slot if given a full star system). I solidly believe it is an option worth considering especially with the recent reveals.
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>>3011610
It's more one of many new mechanics introduced. There's bound to be plenty of people mixing stuff up. I bet most people don't know how the trade route system works.
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>>3011622
>getting baited by a one sentence reply that can be summed up as "whatever
cmon man step it up and calm your tits, is only game.
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>>3010656
Not wanting to abuse void shards to start spreading hive creep directly into the void.
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>>3011765
genius
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It feels like things are looking up. We probably found the reason the humans got such good intel on us, fucked up some ceph, showed off to both the union and commonwealth, learned that our shroud is still capable of protecting our planet from void incursion, got the party rolling and begun the proper colonization of our realm.
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We should attempt to back-alley peace broker between the Union and Commonwealth.

If CW gets Earth, I think they can be persuaded to leave off. Union hasn't launched a counteroffensive yet, but we would need to convince them to give up Earth. Not sure what good it does to them to have it under quarantine anyway.

I'd also like to seriously consider giving the Emperor a trial medical checkup so we can actually talk to the guy and see if he's worth keeping around in any capacity. If CW needs us to name them a price, the price might be "we need you to walk into the gates of hell and help us kill the god that lives there." I'm not sure if that's any better than us just cloning a bunch of baseline humans, though. I'm open to the consideration that it might be because souls (mental echoes?) are actually real somehow and our clones wouldn't have enough soul. Being a clone didn't stop Seiner, and being dead didn't stop Emmerich, so there's definitely something to think about there.
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>>3012224
I believe it's more about going around their psionic resistance and physically modifying them to work with it.

Humans were engineered to be psionically blind and continued exposure will usually kill them, but if you can physically modify their brains to work around their surpressed psionic ability, you can leverage that in combining it with their innate psionic resistance into terrifying weapons; like Seiner interacting with Mom's white void crystal and Emmerich and co growing void crystals in their brains before being chucked into the Void at nowhere.
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>>3011471
And every time we come to the conclusion that it's a net positive gain, so why aren't we doing it?
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>>3011635
How does the Trade Route system work? For real.
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>>3011765
>Red Queen deciphers Multi-Dimensional Physics and Non-Euclidian Architecture
>Cracks open a Void Shard on a distant planet and starts spreading Hive Creep into 4 dimensional space, enveloping and devouring everything in it

>tfw millions of years of galactic warfare are ended with the question "why don't we just create 4 dimensional Hive Creep?"
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>>3012143
Not just that, we got confirmation straight from a servant of the Enemy that our shroud is messing with their efforts to try to get to the Queen.
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>>3012332
To be fair most likely the old Queens never though about doing that.

We weren't lying to Magnus when we said that the Hives were terrible with creative though.
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>>3012333
I wanna build the scarred queen's version too, then we'll be double invisible. Take that you void fucking shits.
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>>3012346
Then all that's missing is maxing out the psychic and 4th dimension tech trees, and we'll start kicking the shit out of the Enemy in the Void with our mind while remaining invisible.
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>>3011388
>human implanted with a parasite would be laughably easy for the union to indentify if scanned with a nerve stapler,
It would hardly be "easy" for parasites to be detected with the nerve stapler - our parasite was not initially detected with Decker and only in retrospect did they notice the mental readings were off, and that was when we literally hacked the nerve stapler through his mind *and* the Union had prior readings to compare against. Nerve staplers are considered an extremely invasive procedure and mandatory nerve stapling tests throughout the Union would absolutely cause riots and/or uprisings against the Union.

>>3012224
Agreed we should attempt to broker peace between the CW and the Union. It will be difficult, but hopefully we can appeal to the mutual threats they face (the Scavs and the Ceph/OQ) as sufficient threats that neither side should want a 2 front war. We will probably gain control of the most pro-war side in the Commonwealth (the Rusenthals) soon too.

>>3012346
Kek
I wouldn't object to using the scarred queen's version in addition to our own too. While our shroud is protecting us for now, the fact that Elizabeth was detected is troubling. If we are relying on the shroud as our only line of defense, it won't last forever. We're especially in danger if we attempt to bring Elizabeth home now that the Void is watching her.

Also, with Elizabeth, the Skyl, and traitor Ceph at the concert it will be a massive target for the Ceph armada and our fancy shields will do nothing. We will need to protect the Builder's gift with a massive fleet to have it remain secure.
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Alright, so i've been binging on the archives again,and I got it into my head to make a timeline of all the shit that happened before we woke up.

The Golden Age and The Great Schism
>The Big Three are the top dogs of the galaxy, this was the Golden Age of the Ancient Hives.
>The Cluster cultivated biospheres on different worlds, which they would harvest biological adaptaions from and traded these with the Ancient Hves. The Silicate Void Precursors didn't partake in this exchange, relying instead on psionically controlled silicate machinery.
>The Great Schism breaks out between the Ancient Hives and the Silicate Void Precursors, the Cluster remained neutral throughout.
>The Cluster renders itself psionically blind in order to escape the devastation of the war*
>at around this time, or in the subsequent phase of the war, the original Hive Homeworld is lost as its star goes supernova
>The Ancient Hives triumph in this phase of the Schism, forcing the Void Precursors to flee and retreat to their homeworld, leaving many dormant silicate machines and Canderon-polluted stars in the regions they once controlled.
>The temporary victory lulls the Ancient Hives into a false sense of security, their political unity and military power weakening.
>The Void Precursors ascend, leaving behind their silicate tools and become unable to directly interact with this reality
>A void Singing Stone/Anchor arrives at the Skyl Homeworld and uplifts the Skyl to become their weapons
>The Void Gods renew their assault on the Ancient Hives, more psionically powerful than ever and the war continues for generations.
>The First Queen's generation is born, by this time the war has been going on for so long that only few Queens are left alive who remember the time before the Schism.
>Eventually, the Ancient Hives lose ground to the Void, and The Ark is proposed as an emergency measure.
>The Ancient Hives conduct a scrying assault on the Void, those that return report on the location of the Skyl homeworld, but the region is shrouded by the Void Gods' anchor.
>The Ark is sent there, containing a vast technological archive and the dormant eggs of dozens of Hive dynasties. The White Queen chosen as the Keeper of Knowledge and the Obsidian Queen as the War Master. Both are tasked with guiding this new generation of queens and obliterating the Void slave species and their anchor.
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>>3012368
Mother's Generation
>The Hives land in the region of the Skyl homeworld and the former systems of the Void Gods' before their ascension, entrenching themselves and waging war on the Skyl.
>The Obsidian Queen proposes to free the Skyl from their servitude, garnering the support of the other queens, but the White Queen scoffs at this plan.
>The plan succeeds, The Singing Stone/Anchor on the Skyl homeworld is destroyed and for a couple of generations the Skyl are freed from void influence, the other queens begin turning more and more to the Obsidian Queen for guidance, becoming the de facto leader of the Hives.
>With the liberation of the Skyl, the Void Gods' create another slave race in the Ceph to fight their war in the physical realm.
>The White Queen begins keeping to herself more and more, hoarding the technology handed down from the Ancient Hives, paranoid of the danger that such knowledge brings.
>The Obsidian Queen, frustrated by her sister's refusal to aid in the war effort, takes it upon herself to conduct research about the Void Gods in order to continue the war.
>The Skyl throw themselves wholesale into the war effort, developing megaliths as well as alternate FTL technologies to make up for the inability to use the void-powered slip drive.
>The Psionic Cannon, utilizing a strange understanding of multi-dimensional engineering to somehow use Void Shards as ammunition to devastating effect, is proposed by the Obsidian Queen. The queens rush to perfect it, seeing it as a way to harm the very Void Gods themselves.
>The Gardener's experiments with genetic engineering of lesser species inspires the White Queen into conducting experiments of her own. Of those experiments, only two species show promise; the Phantoms, and Humans.
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>>3012371
Well fuck forgot about the scavs and how they fit into all of this, but at this point what we have on them is mostly speculation and vague
hints regarding their relationship with the Void and I don't know when to put them in the timeline anyway.

Next up is somehow making a detailed list of our tech and research tree and making a graphical chart out of it.
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>>3012370
>As the Psionic Cannon nears completion, the White Queen comes before the Gardener and asks latter to join her in self-imposed exile. The Gardener refuses as the White Queen leaves known space to settle within the nearby nebula.
>The Skyl complete an artifial intelligence made from hundreds of thousands of uploaded Skyl minds, pairing it with their experimental Rip Drive ship.
>The Gardener is now the new Keeper of Knowledge, as well as the de facto leader of the hives as the Obsidian Queen focuses more on more on studying the void shards.
>The Obsidian Queen calls for a gathering to unveil a new weapon. She activated a Psionic Jammer in close proximity to the Gardener, killing her, as well as grafting more jammers into the emmisaries present in the meeting hall.
>Somewhere along the way, The Obsidian Queen's research into the Void shards had left her vulnerable to their corruption, losing herself to their will and becoming another one of their physical pawns.
>Only two Queens survive the surprise attack relatively unharmed, the Builder and the Nomad. The Scarred Queen barely survives only by mutilating herself and cutting herself off from the rest of her family.

Post-betrayal
>The Builder and the Nomad contact the White Queen. She remains distant but aids them with that she can.
>The Builder attempts to rush the construction of the Psionic Cannon, she is attacked by the Void Gods themselves as she attempts to fire the weapon, and the prototype fails, leading to her death in battle.
>The fate of the Nomad is unknown, but is most likely killed while fighting the Obsidian Queen. However, she provides the White Queen with a deep space dead drop/cache location before dying.
>The White Queen continues with her plans to create a psionically blind race in order to use as a weapon againsts the Void Gods, but without the sheer expertise of the Gardener, she is forced to genetically modify humans the hard way, letting time and natural selection to mask her crude but effective modifications
>The White Queen leaves a relay on Luna, using technology from the Ancient Hives to give them the adaptations necesarry for Void Scrying upon physical contact, as well as plans for the Psionic Cannon and instructions on how to finish it
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>>3012377
Present Day
>50,000 years pass, and Humans have advanced enough to reach the moon and discover the relay. Adam Seiner's Grandfather is an important figure in the project to create the Psionic Cannon.
>The Colony Wars occur, an invading Union fleet threatens Earth. The Psionic Cannon is successfully fired once. The second attempt destroys Luna and renders Earth mostly uninhabitable.
>The White Queen collects all useful data from the human prototype, and uses it to begin construction of another Psionic Cannon
>The Obsidian Queen finally begins her attack on the White Queen
>The White Queen leaves a memory crystal, a relic from the Ancient Hives, at one of the Nomad Queen's deep space caches and programs it so that only a psionically blind human may be able to activate it. She leaves the location of the cache hidden in the mind of a thinker to be used by her yet-unborn daughter.
>The White Queen nears completion of the Psionic Cannon, abandons all her periphery worlds to mount a last stand at her throne world of Reprieve.
>Before the Obsidian Queen attacks, she lays an egg as a contingency, placing it on a pod and sending it past the nebula and away from the battle.
>The Obsidian Queen assaults repreive, the first wave of heavy ships is beaten back by succesfully firing the Psionic Cannon. As the assault progresses, Ceph Void Cutters shift into the system and fire on both Hive fleets indiscriminately. The Ceph are beaten back by well-timed use of a psionic jammer. Finally, the succesful firing of the Psionic Cannon attracts the Void Gods themselves. The Cannon manages to damage the Void construct, but implodes on the last shot, killing the White Queen.
>The egg hatches outside the nebula, Hive Queen Quest begins.

Yep, i'm a bad thinker and I missed like half the second part. Anyway. Hope I didn't get anything too wrong or forget something important.
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>>3012378
Thanks for trying fellow thinker

There is an unofficial pastebin with a lot of the research already in it (more than is written than on QD’s official pastebin). I have it bookmarked and can post a link once I get home after work tonight if that would be useful in your noble quest to consolidate resources.
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>>3012375
The scavs don't really fit at all. They reverse engineered space flight from a hapless explorer from a forgotten race and then became space locusts. they stumbled across a silicate(probable void precursor instillation) map room that makes it easier to find raid-able planets.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Valen have a similar void precursor connection for most of they upper tier tech, what with them being able to traverse void space with reasonable success since they are the avenue of escape for the pale and renegade ceph.
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So after this Ceph attack and the possible attemp that may occour on Builder's gift.

Maybe we should start working on our fleet composition.
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>>3012424
Agreed, we should finish fleet composition and that another Ceph attack may be likely.

Builders gate is a huge target since it is stationary, has an important Hive asset (Elizabeth) on it, and will soon hold a huge public anti-void event. The arrival of the Skyl, the ancient traitors of legend, will make it an even more likely target.

Maybe we should make a dedicated anti-Skyl fleet? It would probably have lots of fast corvettes, frigates, fighters, and jammers, but few expensive capital ships or heavy shields and armor.
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>>3012418
From what I've taken of it is more that an ancient pre-void silicate craft cradhed down to their homeworld as collateral during the Great War, containing either an encryptes map leading to the Void's homeworld, or a map of the Cluster's/Hive's regular harvesting planets, possibly marked by the silicates with non-biological waypoints for the other 2 big galactic players well before the war as part of their alliance.

As for the Valen, we have reason to believe there's another Void Anchor/Singing Stone somewhere in the deep oceans that they have tried to avoid rather than interact with it like the Ceph did.
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>>3012433
>Maybe we should make a dedicated anti-Skyl fleet?

I think you meant Anti-Ceph fleet right? Anyway that would fit the bill yes. Corvettes, Frigates, figthers and maybe a couple of cruisers.

Problem is after this attack if we prepare ourselfs for a Ceph attack the Void could just force Worst aunt to send her huge fleet and literaly try to draw us in ship fire power.

I think asking Heretic to send a couple of ships would be a good idea if he can affoard it.
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>>3012329
Generic trade routes can turn into a variety of different types of specialized trade routes each doing a special function. Strategic trade means granting defensive structures to another faction along with personnel to protect and maintain it.
Commercial trade is typical merchant trade.
Logistics trade is for large scale construction and if used to help another faction's mega-structure projects (like the Union's space elevator on Gemini) you get better relations with them but logistic trade comes with the cost of lowering the resource income of the ENTIRE system exporting the trade.
Humanitarian trade is charity stuff and has the effects of lowering agitation and increasing relations and development score over time but pisses the importer off when canceled (may cause riots if it was left uncanceled for too long).
Industrial trade is when one faction pays another for the right to exploit a resource they have (like the Canderon deal we have going).
In order to make a trade route all you have to do is declare what is the trade route for and QD will being the process of setting it up since negotiations are important for the benefits and effects of the trade routes. Also trade routes are great for espionage so keep that in mind for future actions.
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>>3012378
>memory crystal
Psionic computer you mean. Memory Crystal are basically like Skyl Data Cubes and can be used for jammer resistance.
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>>3010540
>>3010551
Fucking daughteru fags.
Can you bitches keep your weird desires to fracture our control and QD's mind until the goddamn evil obsidian queen is dead or converted? Void turned one against us, could do the same with another, so spare us that till OQ is dead.
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>>3012540
>daughteru-fags
You do realize I don't care about this daughteru shit that you seem to really care about and want to get those fucking research slots to accelerate the progress of our research. Hell the issue of the Enemy turning our allies against us is greatly diminishes if we get certain research topics finished and before you try to say recruit scientists from the Union, need I remind you that takes a lot of time which we might not have, the Union is secretly being controlled by the Enemy, and Emmerich is likely also spying on his former colleagues as well. We need faster research soon and can't rely on the Union for it.
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>>3012547
>You do realize I don't care about this daughteru shit
Sure thing
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I wonder how well a Quantum thinker would go as a ship/fleet commander since they are capable of more creative though
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>>3012615
Stellaris AI tier.
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>>3012547
>the Union is secretly being controlled by the Enemy, and Emmerich is likely also spying on his former colleagues as well.
We have reason to suspect some leaders in the Union are being influenced by the Void. There is a significant difference between suspicion of influence of some and outright saying the Void controls the Union.

However, if the Union fails to turn over the Void shards and other Ceph artifacts when we call them out for non-delivery, we would have no choice but to conclude that key leaders have irreparably corrupted by the Void and need to be terminated. We could even spell this out for the Union if/when we consider warning about our concern that Jack is being corrupted.

>>3010174
Also, we should do this. I feel bad I wasn’t around to vote on it at the time.
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>>3012636
>if the Union fails to turn over the Void shards and other Ceph artifacts when we call them out for non-delivery, we would have no choice but to conclude that key leaders have irreparably corrupted by the Void and need to be terminated

I don't see a reason not to be upfront about it. "Corrupted by the Void? Prepare to be destroyed." This isn't up for negotiation because it's an existential threat to all life. Better worlds burn than the Void gain new thralls.

Regarding telling the Union that not even death has stopped the madness of Emmerich, I feel like it might make things worse. Being non-specific about it might be better. "Any claims of supernatural visitations by entities or presences either living or dead should be treated seriously and as a potential vector of Void corruption, as we have come to understand that the Void's ability to manifest in an arbitrary spacetime have been recently bolstered."
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>>3010174
We should.

Another big takeaway is when someone is corrupted by the void, we need to devise a special method of killing them to make sure they stay dead. Without that, we'll get caught in a loop of killing corrupted humans and having those corrupted humans come back to haunt us. We need a weapon the surpasses three dimensional death, hopefully our current research will finish in time.
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>>3012659
>"Any claims of supernatural visitations by entities or presences either living or dead should be treated seriously and as a potential vector of Void corruption, as we have come to understand that the Void's ability to manifest in an arbitrary spacetime have been recently bolstered."
Yes, I like this. Time to have our Speakers go full lawyer on their asses.
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>>3012659
That makes sense. We can also give evidence of corruption in other ways without revealing the ghost necessarily. For example, we could say that the willingness to give up planets but refusal to give up the shard itself speaks to corruption.
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>>3012684
Meant to copy >>3012659
Not myself again.
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>>3012676
>>3012674
>>3012659
Wouldn't that risk people starting to whorship the Void? I mean there is a lot of humans who would go for that.

>>3012636
>There is a significant difference between suspicion of influence of some and outright saying the Void controls the Union.

This is true but we have being proved that a small amount of paranoia is kinda healthy here.

>However, if the Union fails to turn over the Void shards and other Ceph artifacts when we call them out for non-delivery, we would have no choice but to conclude that key leaders have irreparably corrupted by the Void and need to be terminated. We could even spell this out for the Union if/when we consider warning about our concern that Jack is being corrupted.

The amount of time that took for the Union to finnaly deliver the Skyl artifacts plus the fact that they are working in a research of how to use a Ceph weapon and the fact that theu have a active Void shard sended there from the information we gathered from oir last shadow run.

The scientist might be being corrupted already. I don't remember how much time Emmerich was exposed to the Void Shard and we also don't know how long they have being poking the void shard.

Fortunantly we have Decker in Metan and are about to go after the Ceph weapon facility.

I think that would leave either Coral of the BFI building as the possible places were they sealed the other two active void shards.
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>>3012707
>other two active void shards
They have only one "live" void shard and two "dead" shards.
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>>3012712
They found six from the wrecks of void cutters. Four were active and two inactive. Then they found two more on the moon.

Four active shard were used on the Mirage.

One active for the Hellgate.

One Active was send to test the Ceph weapon.
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>>3012727
Sounds right. They have 2 dead and 1 live. Assuming our intel is not outdated and they don’t gather more from the wreck of the Mirage or the latest Ceph attack. I assume the Hive will be crawling all over the remaining Ceph wreckage, though.
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>>3012738
Actually they have two dead, One active locked somewhere and one active being used in the ceph weapon.

Because i don't think the void shard used in the test video we saw in the Yutani expy exploded.

About the Ceph wreckage...i guess that will depend on how well we or the Union rolls for loot will be.
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>>3012742
I thought the one that we saw in the test video was what they used in the Ceph weapon and that they don’t have another locked away (as far as we know).

Also, we should bring in a few thousand ships for the loot. If we can find even a single void shard it will be entirely worth it. Plus it will scare the Union even more.
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>>3012757
I remember that when we poked the shard the thing exploded and took out our room. The people in the video were using Hazmat suits most likely they had a void shard charged with energy (that would be the oblong shinny thing we saw in the video) and then they used the charged void shard to fire the Ceph weapon.

I don't know if the shard in the video broke so i'm assuming they have at least two actives and two broken shards yet.
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>>3012707
Yeah that's why we're not telling the whole Union, we're telling one person who should know better and can act with discretion. We probably ought to pull the fate of billions/trillions card on Morgan as well as a speaker is able to help us hammer down that point. Bonus if we do it before he gets stapled.

There is also the another, accessory option that will be extremely unpopular for several good reasons.
We've taken away a lot from the Union, from their perspective they aren't actually being protected by our actions (but they are, mother knows best), and their whole stalling is based around obtaining technology and means to wage a better war against the Ceph, CW, us, and whatever else.

Giving them something to bolster their military capabilities after they've turned over the shards would likely go a long way with ameliorating tensions. However, I look at our tech list and I don't see anything I want to give up myself, and nothing for free AND nothing biological, and it's a move that would eventually be noticed by the CW and would be backtracking what we've told them both. At the same time, we could change the policy with the CW as well. Which is what using life extending tech for their Emperor would be, since we told the Union we're not doing that to their parliament.

We should keep that in mind, too. If the Emperor gets healthier any point after now, the Union will know it was us doing one of the things we told them we wouldn't, though we can argue semantics with their interpretations it won't change their negative response.

There's a set of obvious consequences to making the human factions stronger for political points, not the least of which for the Union will be Jack or the CW realizing how valuable they are to us in the long term, since they already have all the other pieces.

If all humans get conquered we limit our long term advancement, if they weaken each other to the point of being pushovers for the ceph, we'll be driven to desperate measures. If their systems are supplanted by the OQ, we lose. If they get void corrupted, we lose yesterday. They cannot be allowed to ever find out the exact extent our survival depends on their worlds being clean, because unlike traditional sci-fi uniting the known galaxy against a singular threat will have these human "allies" trying to gouge us for whatever they can, and they want to stand as either equals or better, which we can't have because we know better.

I hope our direct aid against the Scavs and the humanitarian aid will speak more, but there's still the risky option to make the Union stronger, or make the CW God Emperor rise to a new millennium. But we don't have any direct strategies for dealing with the consequences of that other than building more fleets or supplanting the CW royalty/the Union's ridiculous government.
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>Also, we should bring in a few thousand ships for the loot. If we can find even a single void shard it will be entirely worth it. Plus it will scare the Union even more.

>In the Union higher ups room:
>DuPont: Ah ! Look at that Jack those bugs got their shit kicked by the Ceph even if they mamaged to make the squids retreat they surrely can't have more ships!
>Start to blink our new heavy fleets
>Union security council: [Sweating intensifies]

Man we should thank the Ceph now we habe a excuse to keep one or two fleets in orbit.
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>>3012794
And we should have them there ASAP anyways. As anons mentioned before, the Ceph have telegraphed they know the Union has their shit. They're not done, they're regrouping.
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>>3012800
Similarly to OQ, they will likely attack at the most opportune moment, such as a weak defensive force in a system. Another reason we need to ramp up development of our new worlds. We need more forces so we can raid OQ so that this war will not be set to her beat.
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>>3012787
Also, I forgot to mention that they'll both soon start to very accurately contextualize events based on what we've already told and shown them. Jack's already begun the essence of framing our existence and war relative to the Ceph and furtherly by the Skyl, everything we're doing now and plan on doing in the future can more or less be accurately derived from that single conflict and the hives history with the Skyl, respectively. We gave them those puzzle pieces already, and the OQ/Ceph are confirming them. The Skyl adolescents will key many (not just their intelligence organizations) to the big picture shortly.

Which we don't have a plan for, since we're in a position of strength for the moment. Which can still change pretty quick.

>>3012859
And this. It's been the weekly reminder forever, too.
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>>3012859
>>3012800
Hmm now i'm thinking on a OQ and Ceph coordinating strikes in different places.

The Ceph go and raid Geminni or even Path and OQ attacks Builder's Gift.
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>>3012897
Yep. They'll soon realize we're protecting our future weapons stockpiles, if they don't know already although they're the ones that actually should.
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>>3012787
>If the Emperor gets healthier any point after now, the Union will know it was us doing one of the things we told them we wouldn't

I don't remember this, care to remind me when this happened? I remember we said we will remain neutral in the CW/Union war, but not that we wouldn't help the Union with medical tech. I seem to recall some discussion about a reluctance to help the Union with medical tech because it would destroy one of their very large and very profitable industries (healthcare).

I agree with the sentiment expressed by our speaker to Viceroy Connery. We'd need to be convinced that longer-living humans are better than expiring humans. Honestly, the emphasis that the Ghost of Emmerich has placed on entropy makes me think that the Void has hit that period of pondering its own inevitable demise at the heat death of the universe. It's afraid of death so much that it locked itself in a singularity. Thinking back, I think Cluster said something similar.

The problem with living forever is that it's not forever, and beings unaccustomed to thinking of their own deaths will become obsessed with this inescapable fate.
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>>3012787
>>3012868
These are accurate and good ideas. I actually have some thoughts on what tech we should share and how we should share it.

I think we should share the psionic jamming technology, BUT only share it with the Valen. Obviously we cannot share a weapon that is so effective against the Hive with the Union directly, given corruption concerns, but sharing it with the Valen has several benefits:

1. The Valen are very unlikely to share this tech with the Union for the obvious reason that it could easily be used against the Valen themselves.

2. It helps the Hive seem less scary to the Valen and sets us up nicely for helping them explore their own psychic abilities further.

3. The weapon is so painful to the Valen they will probably never actually use it unless under extreme circumstances.

4. It will help the Union and Valen feel more trusting of the Hive given we have provided a powerful tool in good faith.

5. This weapon cannot be used against the Commonwealth and will not impact that war.


6. It may help the Valen protect against Ceph/OQ raids (provided they can actually bring themselves to use it).
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>>3012917
>share psionic jamming
Haha what. The valen are more likely to be corrupted by the void than humans.
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>>3012904
From what Ememrich said i think they know already.

>Sure, it keeps you nice and quiet, but a human is a special thing. We're less the children of Eden and more the stone lodged in Abel's skull.

>We're less the children of Eden and more the stone lodged in Abel's skull.

>the stone lodged in Abel's skull.

At least thay was what i got from that.
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>>3012936
>The valen are more likely to be corrupted by the void than humans.
Got a source on that? While the Valen are psionically sensitive, none have fallen to the Void as far as we know, while several humans have. If they fall it will be because they are terrified of us and we have made no friendly moves.

How would you rather make amends with the Valen?
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>>3012978
Valens don't have friends they have profitable relationships. But i guess once we get more info from the banking planet we can start increasing a mutualy profitable relationship between us.
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>>3012917
>wanting to sell our psionic jammer to the Valen
>The race in which every space slug will backstab his mother or father to get a positiin or make a profit
>not thinking that one of the younger Valen will try to sell this for profit.

Anon the only tech the Valen don't sell is their gaye tech and that is because it's one of their most profitable techs. They WILL sell the tech to someone after all it was even said in the reunion were Devon worked as our ears.

>"...We can either accept the hand we got, or if we find proof of our innocence, get pinned with a worse bag by having them claim we're trying to weasel out after getting caught. When you deal with valen, that's a graver sin than any betrayal."

>"...trying to weasel out after getting caught. When you deal with valen, that's a graver sin than any betrayal."

So the Valen habe the basic idea of: "If i don't get caugth then everything will be fine."

I wouldn't sell any kind of tech we are willi g to have it leaked to the humans or any other race to then. Even if they are scared shitless of us.
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>>3012913
>Cluster said something similar.
Found it:
>Entropy continues. Entropy will continue
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1764221/#p1766458

Also from the thread:
>"What about the other of the Three?" You ask. The memory is blurred. It is ancient and vague. You see flashes of an ancient mind. A distant sphere, and beings of silicon.

Looks like the World of Salt and Sugar is indeed one of the pre-ascension Void worlds and they did indeed build their sentry spheres in their image.

I also went back to look at it, and Morgan gave Lee a bunch of recordings and stuff in a backroom deal when he gave over that private Q-comm. Morgan is a total bro and we've already told him that the Void works on the principle of thinking about it only invites it in.
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>>3012787
You do realize we could offer to help out with constructing mega-structures and terraforming planets and we could easily get on Killinger's good side if we help stabilize the Union.
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>>3013046
We also told Morgan about Earth being part of Hive space before and after it we dropped the bomb about the Hive and the Cluster seeding worlds and tending then.

Wonder if he has made the connection already.
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>>3013072
>get on Killinger's good side
Are we trying to? Do we hate him less than the alternative? I've forgotten a lot of details, I just remember Killinger has been on our permanent shit list for a long time.
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>>3013072
unlikely, i mean we are pissing in his breakfast so much i am surprised that it isn't 100% hive piss.

And we never wanted trouble, but he always caused it for us and himself.
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>>3013072
Just the fact that our minning tech is more efficient and allow us to take more metal from a planet then the usual would be a good enough. After all the Union and the Valen still use a lot of metal in their ships.
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>>3013095
The alternatibe is Richardson who is a cult leader from Talgo and the fact that he used to be a priest on Talgo makes me think he has the strongest connection with Emmerich. After all Emmerich was a complete uniciclyst devotee.
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>>3012913
That's the semantics part of it. We told them we'd remain neutral in their war with the CW. Extending the Emperor's life isn't a politically neutral action in regards to the CW/Union war, given he's a major player of how the CW functions as an empire and making him live longer facilitates that. It's like selling quality steel to a warlike imperialistic island locked nation and claiming zero responsibility for the results, and that's before the fact that the Viceroy can't assure us how it would turn out good for the CW. We can argue the act itself is neutral from our perspective, but it wouldn't change the Union's reaction positively, since we're enabling the CW's political structure. It's more of a matter of whether we really care about the Union's opinion or not, and are fine with securing the seat of a God Emperor. We do have the power to be belligerent after all.

Still, it's politically volatile even if we only promise a pitifully small youthful extension of a decade. We just have to be mindful of the Union's reaction after we do it, if we want to go that route.

>>3013072
Yes. That was one of the earliest suggestions, and I recall that attracting some business deals.

However, it's not enough. What Killinger wants is a weapon.
A weapon made from the things we've told him to give up. He's doing everything he can to keep them, and he's rash.
The most direct solution is to devalue his actions by providing strong alternatives to the technology to his country, the people around him, because the only thing that stops a military from wanting a particular form of superior firepower is a more superior or massively accessible/cheap form of strength.
Again, it also wouldn't really be a "neutral" act, they're just potentials for directly undermining Killinger so he can flip his shit. Cheaper resources, indirect access to technology, etc can all have the same effect too. God, I hate that fucker.

If we wanted to really deal with him there's the sure kill strategy suggested by a crazy anon forever ago, and is something we've avoided doing for the sake of the Union's and CW's political stability.
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>>3013098
If he stopped scratching the void shard sofa, maybe we would stop pissing on his plate.

Besides the bill he wants to pass isn't a bad idea specialy now that the void and the OQ are revealling their hand and starting to attack the Union.
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>>3013046
What were in the recordings Morgan gave Lee again?
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>>3013123
i am just saying, if a guy punches you in the face to see what happens, then gets beaten up he isn't likely to forgive and forget, especially if his beating is still ongoing/only just stopped.

also, i forget what bill he is passing.
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>>3013095
>>3013098
I think part of the reason shit is so fucked is because the Enemy has been fucking with Killinger's head making him more destructive. We could probably convince him that everything isn't entirely his fault (or something similar) and tell the Enemy has been tricking him to make way for his political opponent to take office.
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>>3013137
.....but are we not the ones who are fucking up all of his plans, leading to him to blame us?
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>>3013141
The Enemy has probably been interacting with the Union for months ever since Emmerich has been in contact with the void shards, hell let's try to get some solid dates on the following:
When did Emmerich start research into the Void Shard?
When did the preacher start hearing the "voice of god"?
When did Killinger start planning to have a ship powered by void shards flown by some random survivors of a Unity attack?
Anything else other people can think of?
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>>3013156
my simple point here good thinker, is that in his eyes, we are the enemy while the commonwealth is The Enemy.

so to read your statement i was both slightly confused and i am also considering how we may "selectively alter" the truth as to make the void our scrape goat for everything in a way he will believe.
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>>3013128
I think it’s an emergency powers bill essentially making him and his cronies de-facto rulers of the Union instead of a ““democracy””.

>>3013141
We have been fucking with Killinger for ages both because he is a dick and because he has personally been a dick to us (before we revealed how powerful we are). We may be able to work with him in time, he’d definitely be better than the Void agent he is almost certainly running against.
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>>3013170
>>3013173
The Enemy is running their own politician against Killinger so would make them a bigger enemy than the Commonwealth.
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>>3013128
He is trying to pass the Consolidation Bill (or as people like to call it the "king bill")
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>>3013173
>>3013224
Dangerious..........But useful with the right sword over his head.
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>>3008946
The joint was cased in 52.2, the smash and grab went down in 53.6, and the last time the holoprinter was mentioned was 54.

So it was stolen 16 days before thread 69. So 15 or 16 equipment would be the objective answer.

But we probably should've bartered some of those away for Credit Caches, and then traded the Credit Caches for a more diverse variety of supplies. Transports and shit. Man, hotwiring a random vehicle to steal a civilian transport was way easier before when the plot demanded it.
>>>/tg/42211594
>“Hey, hey!” A man shouts from behind the counter of a small machine shop. Half assembled computers and holo-projectors line the walls, and three taidarens huddle near the back, peeking into a doorway where a holo-printer can be seen in the back being worked on by several humans.
>>>/tg/47517403
>Inside, beside the massive bulk of the complex holo-printer, a bolt breaks through the cement floor, sending small bits of dust into the air. Several more follow suit, sending cracks shooting through the floor between them as a circle forms around the machine.
>Beneath the streets, at least a hundred taidarens toil in the darkness, clicking, whistling, and singing
>>>/tg/47632547
>Beneath the city taidarens skitter and whistle with glee. A large raft is hauled along the murky waters of the tunnels pulled by the hands of several dozen triplets. The bulky machine held in their care creaks occasionally as the taidaren technicians examine the intricate and highly precise machinery for damage. Before long, the raft enters the makeshift city, pulled across the water to a waiting area where hundreds of young taidarens cheer on their brothers and cousins for a job well done, and one of your own clone agents examines the device for damage as they guide it into its place along the driftwood and scrap metal docks of the shanty town under-city.
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>>3013266
Suffice to stay extracting hypergate tech from the Guild of Transportation's minds and creating miniature stealth hive gates will eliminate the whole "espionage Resources can't be easily transferred between planets" limitation. It also makes it easier to get research subjects back to the advanced laboratories on Leeland.
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>>3013286
Why not just show off the Rip drive and say we want to set up a monopoly with them?
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>>3013296
Now that's diplomacy.
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Wait a second...i just realized that with Lyle aboard the Builder's Gift that means that Coil and the (two) Taidaren are here to.
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>>3013348
drunk lyle..........Oh sweet mother, our political connections and chances are going right down the drain.

Along with all none hive life on the station.

And most of the walls in the station

And any sanity for the duration of his inebriation.
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>>3012368
>The Great Schism breaks out between the Ancient Hives and the Silicate Void Precursors, the Cluster remained neutral throughout.
>The Cluster renders itself psionically blind in order to escape the devastation of the war*
>at around this time, or in the subsequent phase of the war, the original Hive Homeworld is lost as its star goes supernova
>The Ancient Hives triumph in this phase of the Schism, forcing the Void Precursors to flee and retreat to their homeworld, leaving many dormant silicate machines and Canderon-polluted stars in the regions they once controlled.

The War and The Schism are different. The War was the first part of the conflict. This caused the Schism, and the events were so terrible that Cluster blinded itself. The events of the Schism were also what pushed the silicates into the singularity where they became the Void.

Maybe they call it the Schism because it ripped realities apart?
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>>3013286
Sixteen Professional Equipment Supplies are worth 32 Credit Caches, which could be traded so we instead end up with, on top of the credit caches and civilian grade weapons and equipment the Taidaren already gave the clones ages ago, a mix of:

4 professional grade equipment supply
8 civilian grade transport
4 emergency grade transport
1 military grade weapon supply
1 military grade equipment supply
2 credit caches
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I think we need a private conversation with Killinger. Get i'm to lay some cards on the table, while we do the same. Hopefully we can come to some understanding. He is dangerous and self interested, so we just need to make it so he believes what is best for him is to not fuck with us or void shards. Get Lee to set up a meeting with him.
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>>3013375
At this stage we control the entire Taidaren underground and have had a hidden hive for over a month (I think). Hopefully we have more gear than just that...
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>>3013433
The Taidarens got the parasites in thread 48. It's been 21 days.

And we can only embezzle and steal when it's subtle and not making the Taidarens' activities out of the ordinary in any way that people might notice. They aren't that rich either. Beggars and Taidarens op explicitly offers only
>a small chance each day of receiving a random resource
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Why are we assuming Killinger isn't under Void influence as well?
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We need to tell both CW and Union at this point of our main intent and objective towards them. To never, NEVER, touch or keep void shards and to hand them over at once. We need to make it crystal clear that we will burn entire worlds if we must to contain void corruption. It is clear that from Emmerich that the war has escalated to its next phase, we should tell the union at least of Emmerich.

No sacrifice is too great, no corruption is too small. If they argue, tell them that we have no right to let threats to reality live. Go full Inquisitor Horst on them
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>>3013038
The Valen managed to keep hypergate tech secret for a very long time. If it is in their interests, they are better at keeping secrets than humans.
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>>3013447
We are to a degree. We are mostly assuming he's being tricked subtly to destroy himself since he would outright reject working with the Enemy just like how he would reject working with us. To him we are both the same thing.
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>>3013455
They shouldn't even look directly at them since mind control can work through line of sight.
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>>3013455
Yeah, I don't think we're taking this seriously enough ourselves. Too busy playing games than getting shit done.
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>>3013460
The specific inner faction that runs the guild has a vested interest in keeping their monopoly, if we give them something they don't have a monopoly on it by definition and if we piss them off or make them fear for their lives somehow then it could very well be in their best interest to leak the tech that basically amounts to an off button for the hive.
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For those who don't remmeber what the Consolidation Bill is:

>"Dupont reintroduces Consolidation bill, does not mention a recommended Head of State to fill role."

>The news caster appears on the screen in the hall as the crowd inside grows louder. He holds up his microphone with a look of confusion. "As you know the Consolidation bill, first introduced six years ago and often called the King bill by its opposition, is a proposition to create a consolidated head of state to preside over the ruling cabinet."

From thread 28
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>>3013471
We could give the tech only to a small inner-faction. And remember, the tech is an “off button” for the Valen too. They won’t want that getting around. If we sell to no one else, they will still effectively have a monopoly on the tech. Giving the Valen examples of jammers is also very different from telling them how it works and how to make more.
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>>3013486
Oh fuck off we aren't giving them anything unless they join the Hive.
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>>3013489
I think you forget the value “gifts” have in Valen society. A gift of value, even if not the jammers, will be essential to getting a good or at least non-hostile relationship.
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>>3013489
This.
Join the hive or take a hike.
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>>3013496
I'm not. Tech like what you are trying to push doesn't have much value. You want to give them something they actually want.
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>>3013500
Yes, because that’s how we made friends with Theseus, Heretic, and the Commonwealth, isn’t it.
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>>3013510
Do you think they DONT want the tech that just stopped an entire Skyl ambush in their tracks and was also debilitatingly painful to them?

I’m not trying to push giving the jammers necessarily, but I’m really curious what tech would you rather give instead that the Valen would want even more? They already have equivalents to the Rip gate and we can’t exactly give them all parasites, as much as we might like to.
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>>3013511
Again. Valen don't have friends. There will always be some young, dumb and greedy slug that will try to sell the tech for profit and that thinks that will never be caugth.

If you want to be friends with the Valen allow then to trade with the Commonwealth using us as a proxy as well as rent our drones to mine the metal for then since our mining efficiency is greater and so we can take more metal from a source then most factions can.
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>>3013525
I don't want to give them shit. The best they'll ever get is preferential trading rights on the human settlements under our care.
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>>3013525
Skyl ambush? What you talking about? Those were Ceph Void Cutters.
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>>3013511
We gave them shit they wanted dumbass.
>>3013525
They wouldn't. They'd want something that protects them from that shit and our regular talking since it hurts them but I'm against giving them anything psionics related at all unless they join the hive. Stick with services and favors instead.
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>>3013533
>young, dumb and greedy slug that will try to sell the tech for profit and that thinks that will never be caugth.
But again, they managed to keep hypergate tech secret for over 100 years without any greedy slug leaking it. If they can manage to keep any tech we give them secret for just 1 year we’re golden
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>>3013540
>>3013525
Just give then lower taxes when they try to move into our space and that will make the whales happy.
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>>3013550
Anon...they keep the gate necause it's their most profitable endeavour. Just give the whales trading rights, don't turn the screaming of the dead on then and maybe let then hire localy as well as rent some of our drones to mine the metal.
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>>3013511
>implying the Commonwealth end goal isn't integration into the Hive
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>>3013639
>Implying the end goal isn't to get everyone under the Hive.
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>>3013659
Exactly.
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>>3012378
>>3012416

Here's the old tech-pastebin that's newer than the one QD has in the official pastebin, in case this helps:

https://pastebin.com/z4yZdEbK
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>>3013751
I suggest checking the skillset list on there.
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You know all this talk of entropy in quest and there were irl theories of how to violate the laws of thermodynamics. Like using a substance that is a hybrid of positive and negative matter.
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>>3013880
FTL in general just tells relativity to go fuck itself because it's also time travel, so I'm not going to go drawing conclusions on how entropy still works in the setting. It probably totally does and there's no way around it, but I'm not going to push it because we're not in extremely hard sci-fi land and if QuestDrone says we can have FTL but entropy still works as expected, then it is so.

If we can find a way to violate entropy that would totally be cool though.
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>>3013880
Photons trapped in crystals can also exist forever, possibly. But I think we can only go with what we know in quest.
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>>3013375
If nobody objects, I can just go ahead and add this in to the inventory then. Sorry for the bit of forgetfulness in that regard.

>>3013433
That is not counting the literal piles of resources they gave you in return for your initial trade offers that got them infected in the first place, plus the benefits of Beggars and Taidarens, which I will consider to have been in effect a few days after you got the Printer, since we didn't have the rules set up yet at the time.
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I wonder if we could somehow create a stationary warp field. It could be even more effective at psionic insulation than our current methods and a possible human research path towards fighting the hive.
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>>3014094
sure.
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>>3014094
NO (go ahead)
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Did we ever find out what was on the recordings Morgan gave us? This might be pertinent information as we decide who to support and who to murder for associating with the Void.
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>>3013481
The Union could be considered a kind of "direct republic" in a sense. Its parliamentary system functions similarly to a republic in the traditional sense, but it has no executive office. The closest thing to such a position would be the Secretary Advisory Council, which serves at the will of the parliamentary body. In the letter of the law, they have no powers at all, as all of their authority is granted to them by the Union parliament. In addition to this, there is a winding, twisting web of authorities in the form of different subcommittees, caucuses, and other councils that function alongside the secretaries, such as the Security Council, which is a collection of Representatives who work more closely than normal with the Secretary of Defence to provide a greater degree of oversight to the actions of the military. In practice, the Secretaries have a great degree of power, as they tend to be monoliths of government establishment policies due to their offices having needed to be approved by a majority of parliament, and as such they tend to be considered largely bipartisan in nature, and their "proposals" are often rubber stamped more than anything. Over the past century, more and more de facto power has been given to the secretary positions out of necessity, to the point that an argument could be made that together they form a kind of ad hoc executive office.

The Consolidation Bill in its most pragmatic form, recognizes this and in effect legalizes the powers that have been technically illegally given away to the secretaries while also creating an office to serve as their direct superior in order to provide better coordination. In most drafts of the bill, this office would also be filled by election of the Representatives of Parliament. Proponents point to the growing legal grey area the current Secretary system lies within as an indication that the bill is a necessary step to avoid a constitutional crisis, while opponents consider it to be the final master stroke of an establishment that has been gathering more and more political authority and now seeks to legalize it all at once.

In general, the Union, culturally speaking, is very anti-authoritarian on the federal level, even as some of their worlds remain entirely undemocratic themselves. This is typically accredited by historians to be a result of the actions taken by the Earth Confederacy leading up to and during the Colony Wars, which included many heinous war crimes. As such, most of the Union electorate is very distrusting of interstellar level governments, which is why the bill is so divisive. Many believe the Union to be on a path of inevitable destruction due to its bureaucratic bloat and lack of a defined leadership during times of crisis, while others refuse to accept the idea they should cede any more sovereign power of their home planets to a central government in another star system.
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>>3013892
You have no idea how many times I would stay awake at night just looking at the ceiling while in bed thinking "FTL is time travel, you can have FTL or you can have causality, but space opera needs both." Ended up sorta re-inventing the wheel and just changed physics to fit both.

That's how I ended up with the Void.

Also, reminder Spooky thread today at 7pm eastern I will be making a fresh thread for it, and due to all of our crazy recent events, this coming sunday will end up not being a new day, but a .2 to help work through some of the many events that have been set in motion, by both you and others.
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>>3014123
oh boy
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>>3014123
I'm eager for the spooks.
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>>3014123
hey qd, each hex on the map is one LY right?
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>>3014142
Yes.
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>>3013127
>thinking we ever actually got to look at those files since the hiatus ended
Anon...
>>3014116
MorganLeaks remains cluttering up Lee's desk untouched for the past 4 days.
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>>3014094
Well we might want to adjust it slightly to add more credit caches, civilian weapon supplies or civilian equipment supplies if the pile of resources doesn't contain enough of those.

We have no idea how many of each of those we got already, and we want the right ratio, given the various Actions costs.

So you're rolling randomly to see if we got one random resource for each day retroactively? That's the benefit, right?
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>>3014252
Actually...

>An Action has a maximum number of additional resources that can be assigned to it equal to half the number of minimum required resources rounded up. For example, if an Action requires 1 or 2 Transports, it may receive a bonus from 1 additional transport


>Smash and Grab: Requires one of the following to be active, Cults and Collaborators, Beggars and Taidarens, Cabals and Cartels
>Costs: at least 5 clones, 1 day.

Uh, clones are listed as a Resource technically, right? You can't use extra clones to get the bonus for using extra resources can you? And they don't count towards the 'number of minimum required resources'?

Since zero cut in half rounded up is 1, we could spend one of the civilian grade weapon supplies (weapon supplies stop existing after we use them in an Action?) on Smash and Grab: Nerve Stapler, just to absolutely minimize the low chance of failure, because we don't want to have to do this twice.
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>>3014260
Civilian weapons bonus is valuable right now given the state of Gemini and the BFI investigation:
>Lowers the rate of suspicion increase the Action will cause.

And at the start of thread when we were voting, no spendable resources like the weapons had been listed at all in the copypaste intro for Gemini.
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>>3014250
>MorganLeaks remains cluttering up Lee's desk untouched for the past 4 days.
We, uh, we might want to look at that.
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>>3014281
We should parasite Lang so we can start to spread some of the Work Lee is getting. Lang is just one step into becoming a Hive citizen anyway.
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>>3014281
It's probably about some shady research or artifacts, we definitely should check it out before demanding that they hand over the void crystals
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>>3014326
We have time. With the bombing and the Ceph attack the higher ups must be having a really bad time.
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>>3014123
Thing is it should be possible to create energy from nothing because the multidimensional physics and the existence of negative matter/quantum mechanics make perpetual motion machines possible if not outright time travel. The drivel about entropy shouldn't even a thing when you should be able to make device out of positive and negative matter to create a device that can (while unstable) generate energy out of nothing for as it exists or dividing photons into two identical photons or multidimensional shit that just allows for generation of energy out of nothing (and similar weird shit) or whatever. I'm just kind of confused about this entropy stuff the Ancients are prattling about since it seems silly.
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>>3014123
Preparing for maximum spook.
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>>3014123
Do WE get to be the spookers? We're pretty good at that, being ancient extra-galactic hivemind bugs.
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>>3014552
and our power to remain unseen at at most leaving a vague memory of a horrible white humanoid of bug like humanoid silhouette or form and a mounting sense of dread
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>>3014552
>>3014566
I hope the Hive gets to be the spooker here even if we’re playing as a mortal spookee for the special thread. The Hive is disgustingly good at being scary. We can shapeshift, turn invisible, have mind-slaves everywhere, can read minds, and even have literal ghosts working for us; and that’s all without considering our substantial physical powers. There’s a reason the Valen are terrified of us and the Ceph consider us to be literal demons. We even won an Eldritch-Abomination-Off with the Cluster. When even “The Thing” is scared of you, you know you are approaching maximum spook potential.
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>>3014552
>>3014566
It will either be us spooking someone in our new colonies in the expanse. Or it will be the Union soldiers fighting Obisidian Hive Creep in the sewers and we will take the role of Gilliam.
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>>3014648
We also have replicants. When you noticed you are being invaded you realize you are the only real human lefed what fo you do?
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>>3014656
I always find myself wondering how those humans trapped on Djiin fared. It's kind of hilarious that they got almost wiped out by terrifying shape shifting alien body snatchers from eons past...only to get almost rescued by an entirely different terrifying alien body snatchers who couldn't really give a damn about them.

Like, that's got to be a horror trifecta there.
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>>3014915
Now that I think of it there are those atmospheric processors on that planet right? Let's go down and research those.
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>>3014960
We already have much better terraforming and atmosphere control tech than the humans.
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>>3014991
It's limited actually. The weather control towers are useless on planets with regular storms also why are you against getting more to improve what we already have.
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>>3014991
Maybe we can improve on the tech and sell it? Besides it won't be the first time we get good stuff from the humans and improve it.
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Hey guys i just realized something. You guys think we should/could rescue some of the humans that got blow up by the Ceph? That may allow us to unlock some new features for our clone army.

Plus healling then gets some brownie point with the Union and we can show of our bio tech.
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>>3015016
Got no problems on “healing” up the humans if they need it. However, we should probably send an offer to help first so it doesn’t look like we’re just abducting people.
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>>3015016
We can offer but that's about it.
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>>3015023
>>3015029
Sure thing
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Ready?
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>>3015152
Ready for Spoopy!
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>>3015191
New thread is up!





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