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”A Knight is Sworn to Valour. His Heart Knows Only Virtue. His Blade Defends the Helpless. His Might Upholds the Weak. His Word Speaks Only Truth. His Wrath Undoes the Wicked.”

Every child in Cantôn knows of the Knight’s Code. From peasant-born waifs playing with sticks in the mud to keen-eyed noble sons practicing with cold steel in the training yard, all have at the very least dreamed of one day becoming a knight themselves. To ride out on errantry into the Five Duchies Kingdom and beyond for God and Glory, bringing the Law of Adam to the wicked and the Blade of Cain to the beast.

The Knights of Cantôn are sworn to follow the Code, to obey the King, to refuse no call for aid honestly asked for, to seek out and destroy the Foe wherever it may lurk and rid the world of evil.

Were it so easy…

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>>3018178

One stormy winter night, many years from now. Not far from home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buOz6-bSTpQ

”And so ends the tale of the tall and noble knight, whose death came with quite a fright.” The wandering troubadour strums sadly on his lute, recounting the short and sorry story of the Ambitious Aubres Knight. ”Remind yourself, whenever you wander, that humility you should never squander.”

Murmured applause greets the end of his account, interrupted only by the sobbing of the freckled face girl at the table. ”You promised it would have a happy ending!”

”I made no such promises, little one.” The wanderer shakes his head sorrowfully, understanding of the young lasses displeasure. ”We have a great many tales in Cantôn of Knights overcoming great odds and living happily ever after. Perhaps too many, for we sometimes forget that the threats these protectors of our lands face are very real and very dangerous. For every nobleson that emerges victorious and covered in glory, twice his number have paid the ultimate price. Some among friends, some alone and in the dark. It is a lesson worth remembering.”

A wolf’s howl finishes the troubadour’s lesson, cutting through the winds outside. Worried gasps and mutters from the tavern patrons follow, the Twin Sisters rise high tonight.

”Worry not, goodfolk. No matter how fiercely the beast howls, you will always find these noble men of Cantôn willing to stand betwixt you and they.” The stranger says, taking a sip from the mug proffered by the burly innkeep. It is a not-so-subtle indication that it’s time for another story, hopefully one with an altogether brighter lesson to it…
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>>3018183
>hopefully one with an altogether brighter lesson to it…

>inb4 nat 100s in a row
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>>3018183
One sunny spring day, present time. On the fertile fields of Romaine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYcMZo4GmLo

"Mikail, if you really want to be a knight you have to think before you speak. A knight's words carry weight." You shake your head, that boy has a long way to go.

The boy looks crestfallen, but nods shamefacedly. Jerod leans in closer though you miss most of what he mutters to your squire as you direct your steed back in formation.

”…’n if I -ever- hear you putting that foot of yours in your mouth again in fron of ‘is lordship…”

You remind yourself to go easy on the boy when you can, he’s been bred for heavy lifting not soft talk. You suppose he had only been trying to pay some crude compliment, it’s not the first time folk have made mention of your exceptional height and athletic build. As a squire yourself you towered over your peers, all dreaded a bout against you in the tiltyard. Not a few grown men of average height find themselves talking to your chin. Still, the boy’s comment was out of line and unworthy of an apprentice knight. You just hope you can teach him enough to keep the both of you out of trouble.

Any further thoughts of your clumsy squire are banished by the sight of the Foe in the field before you. A small band, prowling too late in the winter, your Father has been hunting them for days since the first sightings.

"Jerod, leave it be. We have more pressing matters at hand."

[1/2]
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>>3018190
dont jinx it
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>>3018193

[2/2]

Weidergǟngers. The Deadmen. Or their minions at least.

Apparently folk in the other duchies believe the walking dead to be slow and clumsy, an easy foe that Romaine somehow struggles to defeat. It is far from the truth. The Deadmen are fast, sluggish yes, but more than capable of gnawing a man’s face off should he find himself unready for assault. Some seem capable of using weapons, though you’ve never understood whether it was by design or some holdover on their previous life. You cannot deny that there is a hungry intelligence in these disgusting, rotting corpses. You’ve seen it firsthand, and all the more ferociously when their fell masters are near.

”We have them now! For God and Glory!” Your father brandishes his sword, the first into the fray. You do not hesitate to follow, stirring your own Hannibal forward to the beat of scores of other cavalrymen.

”Ursen! Ursen!” It’s an old word that the men clamour as the charge begins, from before Cain and Adam ever made landfall in Cantôn. The men-at-arms are simple commonfolk, sometimes they take comfort in the superstitions of their upbringing. Ursen, the Bear Spirit, to grant them strength. The warcry gets the Deadmen’s attention alright, as if the charge of hooves would not. The Weidergǟngers swarm in response. There’s no uncanny level of coordination in their ranks that is evidence of their dread lords, but these creatures are threatening enough when left to their own devices.

Father traveled in force in preparation of this, your forces have a distinct advantage over theirs. Despite the imminent skirmish barely numbering more than a few-score either side, it is still the largest battle you have ever participated in.

You grin savagely as you ready your blade forward as a proxy short lance, ready to show Father what you’re made of.

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>“Ursen!” [Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]

>“Cleanse the Rot!” [Audacious Charge: Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled; +2 Dismount Severity]
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>>3018204
>“Ursen!” [Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]
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>>3018204
>>“Cleanse the Rot!” [Audacious Charge: Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled; +2 Dismount Severity]

DEUS VULT!
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>>3018204
>>“Ursen!” [Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]
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>>3018204
>>“Ursen!” [Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]
IT'S TIME MY KNIGGAS!
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>>3018190
>>3018196
The Almighty works in mysterious ways...
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>>3018204
>“Ursen!” [Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]
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>>3018242
Another post to eliminate any doubt of samefagging.
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>>3018243
>>3018221
Eh, I guess I better post again to prove I'm still me.
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Same.
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I appreciate the reposts, though those that have not are by no means disqualified.
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>Quick overview of Battle Progress mechanics
We already have some understanding of the personal combat system. Battle Progress is somewhat similar, and is rolled using 3d100 in conjunction with personal combat.

Battle Progress starts at 5, regardless of the strength and morale of the two sides (these factor into the DC). Barring exceptional circumstances, I will generally not divulge the full breakdown of why a DC is higher or lower beyond numeric superiority and quality of troops. Later in the quest, you yourself may make a significant contribution should you call upon allies and vassals that you have made along your journey.

As rolls are made in each combat round, the result is added or subtracted to the Battle Progress score. 1 is Defeat and 10 is victory. Results lower than 1 are a disorderly rout and those higher than 10 is a decisive blow that can result in further rewards and glory.

Doomed = 10DC (9 Humanoid Foes or 2-3 Monsters)
Hard Pressed = 30DC (7 humanoid Foes or 1-2 Monster and some Foes)
Evenly Matched = 50DC (5 humanoid Foes or 1 Monster)
Overwhelming Force = 70DC (3 humanoid Foes)
Certain Victory = 90DC (1 humanoid Foe)
Critfail = -3 Battle Progress, Companion rolls AV.
0 Success = -2 Battle Progress.
1 Success = -1 Battle Progress.
2 Success = +1 Battle Progress.
3 Success = +2 Battle Progress
Crit Success = +3 Battle Progress, 1 Foe instantly slain.

Double Fail = +1 Humanoid Foe.
Double Pass = +1 Companion (temporary).

>Affecting Battle Progress
Emerging victorious adds to the Battle Progress DC in the following round. This may represent your unit breaking through the lines, holding a desperate defence as required, isolating a pocket of foes or removing some leader from the fray.

Skirmish level (dozens to scores of combatants) =+10DC
Battle level (hundreds to thousands of combatants) = +5DC
Massive Battle (thousands upon thousands of combatants) = +2DC

Upon concluding a personal combat encounter you have the option to retire from the frontline without dishonour. Usually this will give you a chance to recover one degree of wellbeing. Injured becomes wounded, wounded becomes battered etc. Battle will continue to rage as you do this, and you may return to the fray or continue to seek aid if your tending was unsuccessful (wounds being harder to redress than injuries and so on). This may not always be an option, especially in charges breaking through the Foe lines.

You must understand that it is perfectly possible to fight like a man possessed and still be unable to turn the tide of the battle raging around you. There are items and skills that amplify your ability to sway the course of the melee at large, but there will always be some hand of fate which you cannot entirely control. If defeated, fleeing from your immediate foe will bring dishonour but spare your life. There is still some shame in suffering defeat, but victory in the personal combat will
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>[Belligerent Charge: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted; +1 Dismount Severity]

Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
Jerod, Man-at-arms to Lord Andrei: Healthy
>Combat = +60DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Chainmail +5DC, Mounted +10DC, Charging +15DC, Mikail +5DC, Jerod +10DC]
>Armour Value = 30AV [Chainmail shirt and Coif +10AV, Heater Shield +20AV]

VS

Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Merchant: Healthy
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Mother: Healthy
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Child: Healthy
>Combat = +35DC [Unnatural Resilience +15DC, Uncanny co-ordination +0DC, Battle Brothers x2 +20DC]
>Armour Value = 30AV [Unnatural Resilience +30AV]



Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty

(1) Personal Combat
>DC 75
>3 rolls of 1d100

(2) Hannibal Destrier Attack
>Mounted DC 33
>1 roll of 1d100

(3) Battle Progress [5]
>Overwhelming Force 70DC
>3 rolls of 1d100

Ursen!

Please declare whether you are rolling for Personal Combat, Battle Progress or Hannibal
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>3018277
PERSONAL COMBAT
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Rolled 65, 12, 29 = 106 (3d100)

>>3018277
Hannibal
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>3018243
>>3018246
>>3018258
yes because a short 6 letter post totally proves you don't samefag

at least put in effort to prove it, engage in discussion in the quest instead some tokenistic effort that could just as easily be said by a single person

>>3018277
Rollan for Personal Combat
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Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>3018277
Hannibal
l>>3018286
Forget this
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>>3018277
Can i do multiple rolls?
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>3018277
Battle progress
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>>3018286
>>3018289
Shame, your first batch wasn't bad at all. Feels bad to have a good roll still fail the Destrier bonus.


>>3018287
Good roll.

I hope people trust my discretion in deciding when samefagging is occuring, but I'm not going to start a witch hunt just because they are not actively speaking in the quest.

I love the anons that do actively discuss and participate, but it does not mean that their vote is worth more than others (besides their persuasive value).

>>3018298
Give it a moment, I'll call for further rolls but it's good to give other players a chance to participate. I think in future I'll ask for seven rolls and accept them chronologically rather than get people to declare who they're rolling for.
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>3018277
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I think 20 minutes is enough of grace period, we'll count >>3018331 as personal combat.

I require 2 more Battle Progress rolls.
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>3018287
Nigger fucking what?

>>3018349
Eh sure, why not. Better late than never.
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Rolled 47 (1d100)

>>3018277
>>3018349
Battle progress
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>>3018356
Very nice anon

also you know what I said
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>>3018376
Alright, what do you want to talk about to pass the time? Because I'm taking a wait and see approach to what will happen next.
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Rolled 54, 21, 97 = 172 (3d100)

Rolling for Deadman AV.


>30AV
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>>3018377
whats your take on Mc so far

mostly Im just salty that while there are a lot of votes for divisive decisions there is next to no discussion on the topic by 90 percent of the voters
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>+3 Battle Progress [8]
>3 Damage Inflicted!

Although there are but a few score of you, Father’s sworn knights and trusted men-at-arms, for a moment you imagine that you are on one of the fields of legend with a thousand-thousand hooves thundering in the grass towards the foe.

Such a charge has not been seen since the days of Adam and Cain, but you imagine it all the same. You feel but a taste of the glory those men must have felt, as your storm of muscled horseflesh and steel barges into the heart of the swarming Deadman host.

The first opponent, lithe and wearing a once-white dress, disappears under your hooves without so much as breaking the momentum. A second Weidergǟnger, small and quick, manages to clutch at your stirrup at the price of a mulched leg. A third leaps towards you as the charge begins to lose its impetus, the sheer weight of the crushed dead finally slowing them down. Dozens of Deadmen have perished in that initial charge, but dozens more remain.

Your skin crawls as you feel whatever remains of the first white-dressed ghoul clutch at your other stirrup and attempt to pull itself up to your saddle. You raise your sword overhead…

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>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3018404
>>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3018401
>whats your take on Mc so far

Just an edited cope of Gabriel because players are asshurt and want the same traits.
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>>3018404
>>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
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>>3018404
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.

Remember what happened last time so let's be careful.
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>>3018407
>cope
I meant copy.
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>>3018416
>still being butthurt about dice

seriously get over it caution does shit when does say fuck you
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>>3018401
On the current MC, there's not much to talk about due to basically restarting the game over and rewalking through character creation. I did like that unlike Gabriel's start, we actually are seeing more about this Knight's family from a first person perspective instead of being mentioned as an afterthought.
It also helps that despite what we did with Gabriel, he was a good metaphorical vehicle to retry out the combat system and with his death get some heads out of the potential mindset they had with Prince in BCQ due to how much of a combat monster became.
As for personality? I sadly wasn't there to vote on the crucial parts at the final stage of creation so I wasn't any help there. He's basic like Gabriel but like I said earlier, it seems more potential grounded in choice since we have more to bounce it off of than the horse and a dying woman.

>>3018404
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
Gotta play it careful.
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>>3018420
Nah, that was retarded regardless of whether it did shit.
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>>3018404
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.

A good start
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>>3018404
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3018287
Forgot to mention, a double pass = +1 Unsaved Damage regardless of other rolls, so that should be 4 Unsaved Damage in total.
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>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
And that is +2 Battle Progress [7], blast my maths.


Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
Jerod, Man-at-arms to Lord Andrei: Healthy
>Combat = +45DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Chainmail +5DC, Mounted +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Jerod +10DC]
>Armour Value = 30AV [Chainmail shirt and Coif +10AV, Heater Shield +20AV]

VS

Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Merchant: Healthy
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Mother: Wounded
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Child: Battered
>Combat = +35DC [Unnatural Resilience +15DC, Uncanny co-ordination +0DC, Battle Brothers x2 +20DC]Deadmen get no benefits from Healthy and no penalties from injuries
>Armour Value = 30AV [Unnatural Resilience +30AV]



Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty


>Personal Combat 60DC
>Battle Progress 70DC
>Hannibal 33DC

>7 rolls of 1d100

Cleanse the Rot!

No need to declare, I will take rolls as they come in order of Combat, Battle and Hannibal.
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>3018466
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>3018466
HANNIBAL! CRUSH THEM!
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Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>3018466
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>>3018474
Thank fuck it wasn't a nat 100
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>>3018475
yes that would have been bad but not unrecoverable
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>>3018474
That almost gave me a heart attack.
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>3018466
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>3018466
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Two further rolls thanks, repeat rollers accepted.
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Rolled 94 (1d100)

>>3018500
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>3018500
fug
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>>3018504
oh dear
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>>3018504
Oh fuck me.
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>3018466
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>>3018509
Thankfully you came late.
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>>3018506
>>3018508
This >>3018504 is last and for Brutus.

>>3018509
Mother preserve us, that was close.
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Rolled 52, 2 = 54 (2d100)

Rolling for Foe AV.

>30AV
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>>3018504
>>3018509
What jollies the dice have for screwing with us.
It is such, Kino...

>>3018513
Uh boss, Brutus is ded. The Dice killed him remember? You were there and everything.
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>>3018513
>for Brutus.
Are you hallucinating?
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>>3018516
>>3018520

Sometimes I cry at knight.
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>>3018524
shhhh it alright, he'll have company soon enough.
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>>3018524
Oh hush princess, you sound like my mother.

>>3018527
Would it be Bad Company?
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>>3018533
Hannibal
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> +1 Battle Progress [8]
> 2 Damage (1 Unsaved, 1 Doubles)
>Unclean Deadman Foe, Once a Mother is SLAIN

”Back to the Pit with you!” You snarl as your blade sinks hilt deep into the face of the ghoul in the white dress, finally ending the creature’s putrid existence. Your squire Mikail makes a grab at the diminutive thing clutching at your opposite stirrup, you find with some alarm he is trying to detach it from your leg with a handaxe. At least he hasn’t hit you yet, and the ragged Deadchild collapses under the strong lad’s blows. These fiends take some killing, and the ghoul continues to scrabble and snarl beneath a concerned Hannibal. A screeching third creature leaps upon Hannibal’s hindquarters, only to be flung back into to the dirt with a bash from Jerod’s shield.

The mass of Deadmen tremble, like a shoal of fish that detects a predator. Father’s men cheer, sensing victory as the edges of the melee begin to scurry and flee. When broken, the Deadmen revert to their bestial and cowardly nature. Nonetheless, the momentum of the charge has been fully halted and a few of Father’s men find themselves isolated and dragged from their saddles. Some emerge, saved by courage or comrade, but some do not.

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>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled.
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>>3018539
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018539
>>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018539
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018539
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
Don't fuck with fate m8ty. The dice are baiting us.
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>>3018539
>>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018539
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
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>>3018546
You know might be right.
>>3018539
>>3018544
I'm changing to
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
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>>3018539
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018539
>You snarl as your blade sinks hilt deep into the face of the ghoul

Don't we use an Axe?
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>>3018560
We use a sword actually.
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>>3018560
If I recall from the last thread, it was finalized to be a longsword.
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>>3018546
>go balanced
>roll bad

are you sure about that?
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>>3018539
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
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>>3018562
>>3018563
maybe I'm just misremebering
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>>3018564
Yes I am, and don't call me shirley.
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>>3018571
okay Shirley
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>>3018574
Why do you gotta be like that Barbra?
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>>3018579
because you're not my mum Paul!
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>Belligerent: Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted

Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
Jerod, Man-at-arms to Lord Andrei: Healthy
>Combat = +45DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Chainmail +5DC, Mounted +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Jerod +10DC]
>Armour Value = 30AV [Chainmail shirt and Coif +10AV, Heater Shield +20AV]

VS

Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Merchant: Healthy
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Mother: SLAIN
Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Child: Injured
>Combat = +25DC [Unnatural Resilience +15DC, Uncanny co-ordination +0DC, Battle Brothers x1 +10DC]Deadmen get no benefits from Healthy and no penalties from injuries
>Armour Value = 30AV [Unnatural Resilience +30AV]

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>Personal Combat 70DC
>Battle Progress [8] 70DC
>Hannibal 33DC

>7 rolls of 1d100
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>>3018580
Now Jim, that's no way to talk to your Mr. Coffee!
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Rolled 65 (1d100)

>>3018581
I ROLL! FOR HANNIBAL!
>Inb4 nat 100
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Rolled 84 (1d100)

>>3018581
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>3018581
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Rolled 1 (1d100)

>>3018581
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Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>3018581
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>>3018590
Yup, that's a crit alright.
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>>3018590
My Knigga rollin with dem rolls
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>3018581
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>3018581

>>3018590
Neat
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>>3018590
Battle Crit, neat. At 10+ we're looking at some loot with these corpses.
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>>3018602
tfw no witch doctor gf to nurse you back to health
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Rolled 74, 6 = 80 (2d100)

>>3018597 +1 temp companion
>>3018590 +3 Battle Progress and instakill 1 Foe


One Foe is instantly slain, rolling AV for the other. They'll need to pass both to avoid death, given the Belligerent damage bonus.

>30AV
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>+3 Battle Progress [11] DECISIVE VICTORY!
>+2 Damage (1 Unsaved, 1 Belligerent)
> Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Merchant is SLAIN (auto-kill)
>Unclean Deadman Foe, once a Child is SLAIN

Father’s men are well-trained and not easily shaken in combat. When Father gives the signal, fully half the men break off and sweep in formation as previously drilled. Leaving the other body to continue fighting ahorse, they clear the way of any stragglers and flanking Deadmen that might threaten the patrol. Victory in that very moment, the rest is just a mop-up action.

By now the gaps in the Deadmen ranks are large enough to drive a wagon through, they have no chance against the enveloping second charge. Jerod grapples with his assailant, only to see its head taken off by the mace of a charging man-at-arms behind the creature.

”Kale, ya bastard! What took yew so long?” The man laughs, reigning in his horse and returning Jerod’s clenched fist salute. They turn to assist their Lord’s second son, but you have it well in hand. You and Mikail are dismounted, the battle over, crouching over the pitiful remains of the runt Deadchild. Amazingly, in defiance of the laws of God and Nature, the wretched thing is still moving.

”Almighty and Mother take us…” Mikail shudders, as pale as the marble wall Father had inspected earlier. And looking just about as green.

You think now is as good as any to impart a lesson.

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>”Some men say it is the head that is their weak point. This is not quite accurate, it is in fact the spine. Like so…” A Knight must know how to kill the Foe. [Haughty]

>”The night is dark and full of terrors, boy. But remember the strength of Man so long as we stand together, like we did today.” A Knight understand that know he is not alone. [Hearty]

>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]
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>>3018641
>”The night is dark and full of terrors, boy. But remember the strength of Man so long as we stand together, like we did today.” A Knight understand that know he is not alone. [Hearty]

I think this is a good option because it'll help him keep things in the here and now since he's simple minded like that.
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>>3018641
>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]

This will make it foreshadowing when that actually happens, many or few threads down the line
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>>3018641
>”The night is dark and full of terrors, boy. But remember the strength of Man so long as we stand together, like we did today.” A Knight understand that know he is not alone. [Hearty]
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>>3018641
>”Some men say it is the head that is their weak point. This is not quite accurate, it is in fact the spine. Like so…” A Knight must know how to kill the Foe. [Haughty]
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>>3018641
>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]
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>>3018641
>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]
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>>3018641
>>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]
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>>3018641
>>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]
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Got the images mixed around

>”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” A Knight must remember why he fights. [Idealist]


Persuasion Check [Reasonable / Higher Social Standing]
>DC 80


0 = The boy does not appear convinced, or misses the point of your lesson entirely. If anything you have only made him miserable to be leaving home.
1 = The boy does not understand, perhaps the concept of the Greater Good is too much for his little mind.
2 = The boy gets the meaning behind your words, though he has yet to understand the full significance of the responsibility of a Knight.
3 = Mikail has learnt a valuable lesson, of what a Knight faces and why. Against the Foe he shall not shame you.


3 rolls of 1d100.

Heed my words, squire.
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>3018664
wew
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>3018664
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>3018664
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>3018664
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>3018664
>Autistic shrieking
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>3018664
Too much Idealist for my taste but I'll live with it
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>>3018673
fug

note to self to bad mouth Idealism
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>>3018665
So close
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>>3018673
>That nat 100
Dice confirmed for Teases.
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>3 Success
>Your squire gained STALWART as a defining trait. He shall not flee in the face of the Foe, not ever, but for the command of his liegelord.


”Horror enough yes. But imagine these things closer to home, bashing at the door of your mother and sisters. Our deeds here mean that will never happen.” Your hand lies heavy on his shoulder. The boy looks up at the tall armoured figure standing over him, you must appear to be a giant to him. ”You understand?”

”I… this was once a lil’ girl wasn’t it?” Looking back at the shattered creature, you suppose it was. You nod. Mikail’s brow is furrowed in concentration, puzzling through the full weight of that. ”I got three lil’ sisters back home myself, m’lord. I ‘ent letting the Deadmen have ‘em. No way, not ever. Don’t care what it takes sir, I’ll stop these things.”

His heart is in the right place. We’ll work on his tongue later. You think but do not say. The Deadchild finally expires and you direct Mikail to help the men with the burning of the bodies.

[1/3]
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>>3018673
It's like the Dice Gods are giving us occasional reminders that they're watching. Waiting for us to get comfy.
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>>3018683
>YOU SEE THIS 100 MORTAL?
>THIS 100 COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE THREE ROLLS
>DON'T MASTURBATE TO CRUSADING HYMMS OR THIS 100 WILL SHOW UP AT THE WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT
Well when you put it like that, who am I to tempt fate?
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Rolled 92 (1d100)

>>3018683
Fuck the dice gods, I'm a dice atheist
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>>3018698
It shows
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>3018699
I pray to the dice gods every night before bed.
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>>3018685
It's like they want us to play the most boring goody two shoes ever

this sucks

>>3018698
Never mock the dice
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>>3018681

You meet with Father as the men finish tallying the butcher’s bill and begin lighting corpses. Men in Romaine are burnt not buried, and for good reason. Some Lords burn the Deadmen and fallen soldiers all together in great pyres, but Father does not. Separate funeral rites are held for each man fallen, according to Father it is both Godly and good for morale. Father also directs the priests to conduct funeral rites for the piled Deadmen, albeit en masse.

You found that curious, knowing that even the Order Grandmasters rarely did the sae, and asked him. He only answered when he was in his cups. ”They were once ours too boy… the people of Ardenne deserve no less respect for what befell them….”

Father is speaking with his trusted sergeant-at-arms, Mikail’s father in fact. ”Two dead, two more won’t live to see sunrise… ‘bout three more what’s theirs wounds is made ‘em unfit for duty.”

Father nods somberly. "We'll see to it they are given productive work. No man who draws steel for me will find himself a beggar."

"An' the folk right love you for it, m'lord." Sergeant-at-Arms Berrick says, bowing at your approach with a grin. "How fared my boy, Master Adrien?"

" 'Sir' Adrien, Sergeant, I'm no longer a child. Like your boy, you are too liberal in your address." You hold the man's stare long enough to let him wonder if you're joking, the man was your guardian since you were swaddling cloths after all. You break into a grin, to his relief. "But by Almighty's Grace, he shares your conviction and spirit too so I'll gladly have him."

Father chuckles at poor Berricks expense, flinging a coin purse at you. "To keep you safe on the road, my son."

[2/3]
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>>3018698
>>3018700

>Dice Gods confirmed

Nobody roll before they sacrifice their finest cow, goat or chickens at a MINIMUM.
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>>3018698
To quote Small Gods:
"We get that in here some nights, when someone's had a few. Cosmic speculation about whether the gods really exist. Next thing, there's a bolt of lightning through the door with a note wrapped round it saying, ‘Yes, we do' and a pair of sandals with smoke coming out."
>>3018705
Glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought of The Disc.
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>>3018704

[3/3]

>+2 WEALTH [4/10] I was going to give you +1 Wealth after the battle anyway as a friendly starter, but the Crit battle progress deserves another

”Father!” You blink in surprise, the purse is heavy with Gold Dragons and Silver Lions. This is enough to buy a purebred Warhorse, and you are already in his debt for the steed and gear you already have.

”Aye, and if you return home safe I’ll consider it money well spent. Who knows? You may even make it back in time for the Summer Tourney.” You’ve rarely seen your Father fail to hide his worry so plainly, though you can’t guess whether it’s at the danger you might face or the danger he certainly will face when he returns home to your mother and sisters without you. ”Almighty preserve you. Adam clear your mind and Cain guide your blade.”

”I shall not shame our House, Father. I will return, covered in glory.” You bow and turn to leave, but Father halts you. He draws you in close, speaking softly.

”Just… come home safe, my son. We shall pray for you.” Father hugs you tight. ”Every night. Now go.”

….

”Almighty grant yew strength, m’lord.” Man-at-Arms Jerod raises a hand in salute as you part ways at the road, the patrol heading home and you heading north and west. ”And ifn’ that boy there ever says stupid shite again, which ‘e will mind you, just smack him one, eh?”

You glance at Mikail’s worried face and struggle not to laugh. ”Godsgrace, Jerod. We shall meet again.”

So’s yew say, m’lord. Godsgrace.”

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>Stick to the main road, rest the night at the Romani town of Grenoble. You have coin to spare, and the prudence to spend it in preparation. [Haughty]

>Make speed to the Fallavon-Romaine border, you'll not keep your friend Sir Gladsdale waiting. With hard riding you may make it shortly after nightfall. [Hearty]
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>>3018716
>>Make speed to the Fallavon-Romaine border, you'll not keep your friend Sir Gladsdale waiting. With hard riding you may make it shortly after nightfall. [Hearty]
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>>3018716
>Stick to the main road, rest the night at the Romani town of Grenoble. You have coin to spare, and the prudence to spend it in preparation. [Haughty]
The last time we went off the road. It went rather poorly.
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>>3018719
Yeah, you're right.

>>3018716
>>3018717
Changing to
>Stick to the main road, rest the night at the Romani town of Grenoble. You have coin to spare, and the prudence to spend it in preparation. [Haughty]
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>>3018716
>>Stick to the main road, rest the night at the Romani town of Grenoble. You have coin to spare, and the prudence to spend it in preparation. [Haughty]

We already had one day of battle, let's rest up and prepare for the next one.
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>>3018716
>>Stick to the main road, rest the night at the Romani town of Grenoble. You have coin to spare, and the prudence to spend it in preparation. [Haughty]
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>>3018716
>>Make speed to the Fallavon-Romaine border, you'll not keep your friend Sir Gladsdale waiting. With hard riding you may make it shortly after nightfall. [Hearty]
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>>3018716
>>Make speed to the Fallavon-Romaine border, you'll not keep your friend Sir Gladsdale waiting. With hard riding you may make it shortly after nightfall. [Hearty]
FRIENDSHIP
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>>3018719
and just because it happened before does not mean it will happen again.
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So any Ideas what to buy with our gift from father?
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>>3018716
>Make speed to the Fallavon-Romaine border, you'll not keep your friend Sir Gladsdale waiting. With hard riding you may make it shortly after nightfall. [Hearty]
>>3018737
Could be useful as incidental coin for if anything comes up where we really need it.
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>Close, but resting at town takes it.

You stick to the main roads, aiming to purchase some equipment at the westernmost Romaine town of Grenoble. Your friend Sir Glasdale needs a Knight that is rested and ready, not exhausted and ill-equipped for monster slaying. This land far from the reaches of Ardenne, here the people worry more over brigands and beastfolk than the Deadmen. You reach the town before the sun has begun to set.

You pass unchallenged by the gates, House Andrei is not unknown here. Mikail gawps at the sight of it’s stone walls, smoking chimneys and plethora of people going about their daily business. You yourself have never actually been in a town this size before, but you manage to keep yourself from staring at everything in slack-jawed amazement unlike your squire.

”Is this… Aubrey, m’lord?” Mikail asks in wonder. ”I had no idea there’d be so many people…”

”It’s not Aubrey, boy. That’s twice the size of this place and located by the sea in Aubres.” You shake your head at his lack of education, though you yourself have never seen the capital either. ”You see those banners there? That’s the rampant eagle of Norveski, true servant of the Duchess and as Romani as anyone else.”

You pause by a stall where a merchant unashamedly leaps to the fray, all but assaulting you with freshly smoked rabbit skewers. You manage to buy two rather than the whole basket, and you’re certain it’s at a price at least twice what he’d charge a commoner.

There is still plenty of time to purchase equipment before taking your rest, hopefully without being as easily scammed as a Montbrun noble in a Pascae harbour.
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>>3018759
I haven't finished putting together a comprehensible market inventory so I'm just going to list them here and make hope you make sense of them.

Remember, you have 4 Wealth. You can spend none or all of it if you wish, but reducing your Wealth below 2 can have complications as per the attached picture.

As there are a lot of options to consider, I'm going to leave this vote open for at least an hour before calling it.


[u]Bustling Marketplace (Town/Castle)[/u]

Stables
(W1) Ill-bred Nag
>+5DC Mounted
>+10DC Charge
>50DC roll to retain control of steed during combat

(W2) Purebred Warhorse
>+10DC Mounted
>+15DC Charge
>Destrier, Courser OR Rouncey Bonus
>+2DC to Courtship

(W1) Warsaddle and Leather Barding
>-1 Dismount Penalty


Impressive Church
(W1) Lucky Charm
>50DC for +1 Combat Re-roll

(W2) Revered Artifact
>+1 Combat Re-roll

[1/2]
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[2/2]

Market Stalls
(W1) Ranger Gear
>+1 Pathfinder Re-Roll
>Torch Supply

(W1) Quality Tabard
>+5DC Persuasion and Courtship
>+1 Persuade/Courtship Re-roll in military environments

(W1) Impressive Finery
>+5DC Persuasion and Courtship
>+1 Persuade/Courtship Re-roll in courtly environments

(W1) Token of Affection
>1 Auto-success roll for Courtship (single use)

(W2) Banner
>One Companion is Standard-Bearer and may not grant Death's Door
>+1 Companion in Personal Combat
>+1 Battle Re-roll if successful in Personal Combat


Tavern Crowd (Default Untested loyalty)
(W1) Archer
>+1 Pathfinder and Tracking Re-rolls
>+5DC to Combat

(W1) Sellsword
>+5DC to Combat
>Death's Door 10AV

(W2) Sworn Man
>+10DC
>Death's Door 30AV
>Comes with Nag
Blacksmith and Armoury
(W3) Full-plate Harness
>+15DC, +30AV

(W2) Breastplate and Helm
>+10DC, +20AV

(W1) Chainmail shirt and coif
>+5DC, +10AV

(W1) Remove any Rust or Damage debuffs (Half Effectiveness)

(W1) Buckler
>+10AV, +5DC

(W1) Heater shield
>+20AV

(W1) Kite Shield
>+15AV, +5DC when Mounted

(W1) Round Shield
>+15AV

(W1) Castle-Forged Arming Sword
>+5DC

(W1) Castle-Forged Morningstar
>+1 Damage if 3 Success

(W1) Castle-Forged Axe
>-10AV to Foe

(W1) War Lance
>Doubles Damage on the Charge (Doubles or 3 Success means the Lance remains unbroken)
>-20AV to Foe
Property, Right to Land
Not enough Wealth for this region.
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>>3018764
(W2) Breastplate and Helm
10DC, +20AV

I do believe we currently only have Chainmail which we could pass onto our squire.
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>>3018764
>(W2) Breastplate and Helm
>+10DC, +20AV
As much as I want that War Lance, armor is survivability, which we definitely need.
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If you wish to trade in your items, this is done at half-value. You currently have:

>Purebred Warhorse (Hannibal)
>Chainmail and Coif
>Heater Shield
>Castle-forged Arming Sword
>Nag (Mikail)
>Steel Blade (Mikail)
>Padded Gambeson (Mikail)

Even these meagre beginnings are an absolute fortune to a peasant.
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>>3018764
>(W2) Breastplate and Helm
Would like to have a war lance, but I will make due.
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>>3018772
>>Steel Blade (Mikail)


uhh forgotten Mikail has a Hatchet
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>>3018772
>Padded Gambeson (Mikail)
Sell it and give him our Chainmail and Coif.
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>>3018775
Yeah but for mechanics purposes a hatchet, reinforced bludgeon and shortsword all have the same Wealth value and use in combat.
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>>3018782
fair enough
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>>3018782
Sell Mikhail Gambeson and give him our chain mail. Buy breastplate for ourselves.
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>>3018788
This.
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>>3018788
A gambeson is pretty low value, I'd warrant a trade at 0.5W in a village market but not a town.
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>>3018794
Let's sell our Chainmail+Coif and buy the Breastplate+Helm.
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>>3018801
We don't have to sell it to afford it
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Pretty decisive votes for Breastplate and Helm so I'll call it there, and for our chainmail to go to our squire.

So what kind of WICKED CHIVALROUS helm does our Sir Emile Andrei sport? No plumes yet, I'm afraid. That'll need a Full-Plate + Quality Tabard combo.

>Helm style, pick a number
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>>3018764
(W3) Full-plate Harness
>+15DC, +30AV
DC is everything in your quests and i'd rather not buy it later
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>>3018802
Yeah, but we should keep our wealth above 2.

>>3018804
1
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>>3018804
1 it's got the balance between CHIVALRY and DEUS VULT
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>>3018804
2

>>3018806
While I'd normally agree we are just starting out and given our record so far it's worth it burning the money for that delicious +10dc
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>>3018804
5 for maximum deus vult
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> 2/10 Wealth
>GAINED Breastplate and Helm (+10DC, +20AV)
>Mikail is now equipped with Chainmail and Coif (Death's Door 20AV)

You dislike bartering with the short-statured Armourer like a common merchant. You're amazed at his claims the he is offering of a discount in light of your good family name. The man's probably never seen an Andrei knight before and you could have bought a Wastelands Mustang for what he was originally asking! The stories of unscrupulous Pascae merchants are doubtless true, you just hadn't realised that they'd all moved to Grenoble for the spring apparently.

"You alright, m'lord?" Mikail asks as you return from the shop, the noon well underway.

"I am fine, just tired. This petty bartering exhausts me." You talk with the boy as you find lodgings, a groom tentatively taking the wary Hannibal by the reigns you offer. "By the by, lad, you're to wear my chainmail from here on."

"Really?!" Mikail beams, doubtless thinking himself armed like a true warrior now. "Er, I mean, yes. As you say, m'lord."

[1/2]
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>>3018804
2 because muh Dark souls and Darkest Dungeon
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>>3018826

[2/2]

You take your rest at a local inn, you struggle to remember the name even as the innkeep greets you politely and shows you your room. The Dancing Duck. Drunk Duck? Something Duck. You had quite readied yourself to settle into supper in the common room when a knight resplendent in the Order Reginae colours strides through the tavern doors like a hero from the stories.

Even the man's squire is more impressively dressed than yourself, the deep blue and silver stars of the Queen make an eye-catching spectacle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMbbbopeVfc&t=71s

The innkeep bustles about to see the royal knight seen to immediately and inquires with a friendly tone "We are honoured by yer presence, sire. An how fares our gracious and holy Queen?"

"She remains, as ever, the Queen of Truth and Love, my good man." The Knight smiles congenially as the troubadour and singing maid in the common room take up the tune of 'Heavy Lies the Crown', a Queen-loyalist song.The maid catches the golden coin he flicks their way without missing a beat. "Almighty's Grace, she has blessed us with another true son of the King and so strengthened the Royal line and the future of our fine realm."

The tavern cheers at the news of the Queen's third child, and a son to boot. Although Romaine's relationship with the King has oft been strained, the people have nothing but love for their kind and faithful Queen. A second cheer is brought about by the innkeeps declaration. "A round on the house! And Pit take the man who does not toast to their health!"

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For a deeper understanding of Canton politics, refer to the Faith & Politics pastebin

>You raise your glass to the babe's health but do not cheer. You've always preferred the King to the Church, and you well remember your father's stories of when the two did not always see eye to eye. [Haughty]

> You raise your glass and cheer as loud as any man. Mater Reginae, a sliver of the divine, has ever been a friend of Romaine. The Church understands what your people face here. [Hearty]

> You toast to the babe's health, this is good for the realm! You've never been one to give much thought to the politics and interests at court, leaving that as a topic for cynics who are under the misapprehension that Canton is anything but united. [Idealist]
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>>3018833
>You toast to the babe's health, this is good for the realm! You've never been one to give much thought to the politics and interests at court, leaving that as a topic for cynics who are under the misapprehension that Canton is anything but united. [Idealist]
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>>3018833
>spoiler in OP
Oh shit I was right this is Chevalisse Probably[/spoiler[

>You raise your glass to the babe's health but do not cheer. You've always preferred the King to the Church, and you well remember your father's stories of when the two did not always see eye to eye. [Haughty]
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>>3018833
>>You raise your glass to the babe's health but do not cheer. You've always preferred the King to the Church, and you well remember your father's stories of when the two did not always see eye to eye. [Haughty]
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>>3018833
>> You raise your glass and cheer as loud as any man. Mater Reginae, a sliver of the divine, has ever been a friend of Romaine. The Church understands what your people face here. [Hearty]
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>>3018833
>You raise your glass to the babe's health but do not cheer. You've always preferred the King to the Church, and you well remember your father's stories of when the two did not always see eye to eye. [Haughty]
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>>3018833
>You raise your glass to the babe's health but do not cheer. You've always preferred the King to the Church, and you well remember your father's stories of when the two did not always see eye to eye. [Haughty]
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>>3018833
You raise your glass and cheer as loud as any man. Mater Reginae, a sliver of the divine, has ever been a friend of Romaine. The Church understands what your people face here. [Hearty]
Is this a big permanent decision or can we change our allegiance in the future
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>>3018833
>>> You raise your glass and cheer as loud as any man. Mater Reginae, a sliver of the divine, has ever been a friend of Romaine. The Church understands what your people face here. [Hearty]

>All these disgusting kingfags

Well, maybe we should have tried to get ourselves an archer to better track the monsters, but alright. I can get behind this decision.
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>>3018845
>>3018835
>>3018833

>Is this a big permanent decision or can we change our allegiance in the future
If it's a big permanent decision, then count my vote as hearty rather than idealist.
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>>3018845
I don't think so, the pastebin itself implies otherwise:
> Although the below lists are sometimes or even often at odds with one another, it is rare indeed to find a man of the realm that subscribes to only one line of thought in Canton politics.
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>>3018851
Obviously not, I would make sure to point that out were it an irreversible stance. This merely demonstrates your initial political leanings.

And as >>3018852 points out, it is even out of the ordinary to be staunchly leaning one way without exception.
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>>3018851
>>3018845
Its not a massive permanent decision it merely a note of our CURRENT stance on royal politics
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Look guys, this is the equivalent of a mildly right-leaning Republican meeting a registered Democrat in a bar.

At least back when the two parties weren't so at each others throats.

>inb4 Wall of Borders
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The tavern toasts as one, Mikail cheering along with the others. You raise your mug, but do not cheer. Father and mother disagreed on many things, politics being a major issue, but both were wary of the Queen. Father because of the unrest and civil strife from the days of the War of Borders and Mother due to the Queen’s populist movement and sway over the common folk.

”Ah, the Bear of Andrei.” The knight, clearly up-to-date on his heraldry, marks you out as a fellow knight and nods at the heater shield in your squire’s care. ”Sir Damien Andrei?”

”No, his brother. Emile Andre.”

”A pleasure to make your acquaintance, Sir Andrei.” The royal knight smiles, obviously trying to hide his relief. Your elder brother is far from the Court’s favour these days, but for your family’s influence he might have been up on charges of murder for his folly. ”Forgive me, I was not aware Lord Andrei had another son.”

”He stands before you.” You are not trying to be rude, truly, but the conversation rankles you somehow. ”Still, likewise a pleasure Sir…?”

”Gilbern, Robert Gilbern.” Sir Gilbern clasps your forearm in the knight’s handshake, the man is handsome but ”Godsgrace, but you’re tall.”

”I hadn’t noticed.” You remark, but grin to take the sting away from it. ”What Royal Business brings you to Grenoble, Sir Gilbern?”

The two of you talk for some time, Sir Gilbern is on official business other than the announcement of a newborn royal prince. The details he would not disclose, however he regrets being unable to lend you assistance while on his own mission. You tell him of your errantry and he provides you with some tips, unasked for but handy.

”Staying on the Kingsroad is generally safe, Sir Andrei, but it is slow. And there is no chance that men such as we can move about swiftly or discretely unless you stick to the side tracks and off-road. Sometimes fair fortune even smiles upon you that way, I once came across an abandoned waterskin bundle containing three reams of untouched silk. What was it doing there? Pit knows, my good man.”

Why a knight would need to move about discreetly anywhere is not apparent to you, but you do not press the man.

Eventually the two of you talk of politics.

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[2/2]

”Ah, a Kingsman then? Have no fear, friend. I serve the Queen faithfully, and believe me those two are well in love.” The knight stands up, ready to retire. The hour has grown later than you first thought. ”The conflicts of the War of Borders is well behind us, Sir Andrei. Peace and prosperity for Cantôn lie ahead.

We can only hope. You think but do not say. ”Well, I will not deny that our Queen is fair and beautiful if men such as you would suffer for her.”

”Visit the capital one day, come see for yourself! Ah but the stars pale in comparison.” The man smiles upwards dreamily, clearly smitten with her Royal Highness. Even an idealist like yourself if amazed that Her Grace can command knights through the power of her fairness and beauty alone. Well, being in love with the Queen is no treachery. Only acting on it is.

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>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]

>”My brother Damien, it is a delicate subject I know but… have you news of him?” [Haughty]

>”I will happily call upon you when I do visit, Sir Gilbern. Perhaps I too shall be struck by our Grace’s fairness.” [Idealist]
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>>3018862
>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]
This is actual useful information.
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>>3018862
>>”My brother Damien, it is a delicate subject I know but… have you news of him?” [Haughty]

Our brother musta dun goofed
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Taking a break, will be back in an hour
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>>3018862
>>”I will happily call upon you when I do visit, Sir Gilbern. Perhaps I too shall be struck by our Grace’s fairness.” [Idealist]

contacts
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>>3018862
>>”I will happily call upon you when I do visit, Sir Gilbern. Perhaps I too shall be struck by our Grace’s fairness.” [Idealist]
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>>3018875
>>3018878
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>>3018878
>Thirsty tools get manipulated by the Halo Effect and disregard useful information like our brothers whereabouts or monster's weakpoints

Shameful display by fellow Kniggas
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>>3018881
I could go with the monster, brother seems like a delicate subject, but mostly I want to have someone to call to on the queen's guard when we get there, she is the religious head of the kingdom so I guess it would be good.
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>>3018606
Yet.
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>>3018862
>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]
Asking a relative stranger about our brother would leave a poor taste in my mouth. And as to Her Majesty? Bretheren Before Wenches.
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>>3018862
>>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]
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>>3018862
>>”I will happily call upon you when I do visit, Sir Gilbern. Perhaps I too shall be struck by our Grace’s fairness.” [Idealist]
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>>3018885
It's cool m8 you choose what you want.
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>>3018888
>not a rough but stout hearted Hellion lass who will wrestle with you to lift your spirits
How does it feel to have objectively inferior taste in DD waifus?
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>>3018862
>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]

No need to talk about our brother with a stranger, even if it's a nice fella like this one.
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>>3018895
As long as she tries to be a proud tsundere and keeps failing, it's cool with me.
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>>3018862
>”Have you heard of what may plague the border village to the north? How does one slay a Monster?” [Hearty]

Monster slaying before hoes!
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>>3018895
>heathen whores
>good waifus

good taste but im more of a grave robber guy myself
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>>3018862
>”My brother Damien, it is a delicate subject I know but… have you news of him?” [Haughty]
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Persuasion Check [Reasonable / Equal Social Standing]
>DC 60

0 = Sir Gilbern has little time for your questions, he is on more important business.
1 = Keep a steady hand and stout heart, and other noble but less than practical advice.
2 = Sir Gilbern offers some hard-earned experience from a previous hunt.
3 = Sir Gilbern knows not exactly what ails the village, but offers succinct knowledge on several common monsters. +5DC against [Monster Type] when revealed.


3 rolls of 1d100

Hot tips for young kniggas.
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>3018910
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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>3018910
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>3018910
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Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>3018910
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>>3018912
>>3018914
Thanks for your rolls, good sirs.
>>3018913
Not you.
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>>3018914
>>3018915
Woops I have a cold excuse this double post in Malaise
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>>3018916
I tried at least.
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>3018910
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>>3018895
>not watching her giddy as she enthusiastically makes a potion tailored to your strengths
>not asking her to take off her mask and her shyly replying
>o...ok if it's for you anon
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”Ah very well, one more round. I cannot in good conscience let a fellow sword brother risk his life when a few words of my counsel might have spared him some grave mistake.” The man reluctantly takes a seat, though if you’re being honest in your appraisal Sir Gilbern seem the sort to relish talking and is obviously flattered a young knight-errant has asked his advice. ”Caves. Every creature I’ve ever had to hunt, from beast to basilik, it’s almost always ended with us tracking them to a cave, ruin or some other dark and confining pit. You have a friend going with you? Good, impossible to watch your back otherwise. So many hidden side-tunnels… The unfortunate truth is, it’s unlikely you’ll be in the open and ahorse when the time comes unless it’s nightfall and the creature is ravenous and confident enough to be hunting you instead. You can’t smoke them out most of the time, they generally have more than one exit. So be prepared to venture within, cornering the creature in its lair. Just, for Pits sake, make sure someone is carrying a torch. Monsters do well in the dark, men don’t.”

”No horse, caves, remember torches. Understood sir, my thanks.” You pause, a niggling doubt causing you to question. ”What of the tales of knights ahorse driving lances through these beast's black hearts in light of day? Are those pure fabrication?”

”Aye the stories of monsters in the field by day are real, but never for a solitary hunt. Monsters in force by day is a sign of war, mark me.” Sir Gilbern seems troubled by the very thought, though the War of Names was generations ago. ”You see a monster out in daytime, you send word to a Lord you trust immediately. That means the Wild is on the march again.”

You talk for a while of possible creatures you may face, but Glasdale’s letter offers little insight and Sir Gilbern is unfamiliar with the region. The two of you part on friendly terms, if not friends.

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[1/2]
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[2/2]

Less than a day later, by the Romaine-Fallavon border.

Sir Willem Glasdale’s cottage is tidier and somewhat more well kept than the other hovels you passed in the region, but in truth you’d have missed it entirely had you not seen his Red/Yellow Chevron arms painted above the doorway. Sure enough, you find your friend saddling his horse and strapping on his armour around the back.

The man has a lithe build, and a swarthy complexion from his wardship on the Glasdale lands to the far south of Romaine. His tan has faded somewhat, but his sharp blue eyes are as warm as ever.

”Emile, you received my letter!” The man drops his saddlebag and approached with a cheery smile. ”Almighty shines upon me today, I was about to set off without you!”

”Then I have arrived just in time. Salvae Reginae would not be so unjust as to have me abandon a friend in need.” You return the smile. You’re about to dismount and embrace when a serving girl exists with a bundle of items.

”Don’t forget your dried rations, darling. And water, it’s getting hotter out there.” The girl, clearly a commoner from her dress and manner, is all too familiar for your taste. The girl smiles and makes some mockery of a curtsey. ”Oh, you must be Will’s knight friend. Nice to meet ya.”

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>”Willem… Who the Pit is this?” And why hasn’t Willem taught her some discipline? [Haughty]

>”Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]

>”Sir Willem Glasdale, you’ve been holding out on me.” The cheeky bastard has taken on a mistress likely, sinful but you try to laugh it off. [Hearty]
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>>3018941
>”Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]
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>>3018941
Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]

Stay at your place, woman. Men are talking about serious matters.
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>>3018941
>>”Sir Willem Glasdale, you’ve been holding out on me.” The cheeky bastard has taken on a mistress likely, sinful but you try to laugh it off. [Hearty]

we gregarious
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>>3018941
>”Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]
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>>3018941

>”Sir Willem Glasdale, you’ve been holding out on me.” The cheeky bastard has taken on a mistress likely, sinful but you try to laugh it off. [Hearty]

Nice one pal! We can only dream of a buxom-peasant mistress with all the zealotry running around here.
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>>3018941
>”Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]

>>3018904
But that's what's great about it if you're a noble. Because of your station, you CAN'T marry her no matter how much you yearn to. So it's a potential source of so much pathos, especially if you have to use a political marriage to cement an alliance. So while you love her deeply, you have to swallow it all and explain that "That woman over there will be my wife and you but a concubine because this is a political thing and we must weld peace out of this moment ... We must obey the forms. Yet that princess shall have no more of me than my name. No child of mine nor touch nor softness of glance, nor instant of desire."
And you have to hope that she's willing to accept that, that your love is enough for her to accept some other bitch getting your name.
A prize to whoever can place the quote.
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”A Knight is Sworn to Valour. His Heart Knows Only Virtue. His Blade Defends the Helpless. His Might Upholds the Weak. His Word Speaks Only Truth. His Wrath Undoes the Wicked.”
ehi forgotten cool to see the quest keep going, i have made the old lion of the rousseau (it s not that much different to the first one but it s still good in way).

next is the bear of our new knight.

i was trying to make an update yesterday in qtg but i didn t have time
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>>3018941
>”Sir Willem Glasdale, you’ve been holding out on me.” The cheeky bastard has taken on a mistress likely, sinful but you try to laugh it off. [Hearty]

We are Chad Knight, but we can also make jokes.
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>>3018953
Nice, depending on where anons go with Emile we may be seeing Uncle Rousseau some day.
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>>3018956
that would be cool to see. i wonder if he would want revenge against the beastmen that slay gabriel .
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>>3018956
That'd be sweet.
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>>3018956
perhaps i could use a twitter for giving you the images, so our players can t see them until you use them.
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>>3018956
Perhaps we'll even discover the corpse of the poor bastard.
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>>3018962
*your
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>>3018941
>Sir Willem Glasdale, you’ve been holding out on me.” The cheeky bastard has taken on a mistress likely, sinful but you try to laugh it off. [Hearty
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>>3018941
>>”Willem… Who the Pit is this?” And why hasn’t Willem taught her some discipline? [Haughty]

Bedding Peasant women is fine even if degrading of our station but he should show her her place

>>3018950
Nigga is that a Crusader quest refrence?

Chiri will always be best girl but no heathen girls in this quest
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>>3018962
You can definitely post them here, I don't think it would be a spoiler to say that meeting him -might- happen.
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>>3018941
>>”Yes, likewise. So, tell me about this Monster, Willem…” Overly familiar for a peasant girl, sure. But you have more pressing matters. [Idealist]
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”Yes, likewise.” You turn, ignoring the lowborn girl. ”Mikail, see Sir Glasdale’s things packed away tidily. So tell me about this Monster, Willem…”

”Yes, the attacks have been getting worse. A farmhouse was hit last, it’s just down the road not two fields from the village centre.” Your friend looks at you uneasily for some reason, though you can’t fathom why. ”The creature is getting bolder, but you know what folk are like when they’re scared. I’ve received nothing useful in helping us determine whether we’re hunting a rat or a basilisk or any manner of thing.”

”I’ve not heard of rats that tear down farmhouses, Willem.”

”You’ve not seen the rats out here then, Emilie.” Your friend replies wryly.

Soon enough the two of you are ready to be on your way, but you are subjected to one final shocking display of familiarity towards Willem from his servant.

”Come back safe, my love.” She kisses his cheek, attaching a plain white kerchief on his sword arm.

”The Pit itself could not keep me from you, my lady.” Reginae wept, seriously Willem?

Really, that’s too much. If he’s ploughing with the local help that’s one thing, the Almighty will judge him, especially if he fathers bastards. But to be so brazenly open about it? And granting him her favour like she’s some highborn damsel from the stories? And why the Pit is your friend playing along with it? You’re tempted to slam down your visor so your friend doesn’t see you roll your eyes. You at least wait until you’re aways down the road before speaking to him about you.

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>>3018969
bah, if his lands produce such fine looking lasses better the lord to enjoy it than to have it wasted on some farmhand's son
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>>3018971
ok
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>>3018981
and they are free to enjoy them, however it degrades the nobility of our station by partaking in it.
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[2/2]

”Look, Willem. About your girl there…” You pause awkwardly, aware of his sudden stiffness. ”I’m no priest, and your soul is your business… but do you really have to be so brazen with your sin like that?”

”Sin?” Your friend looks almost as confused as your squire, though Mikail often looks like that.

”Yes sin, by God man! Bedding women outside of marriage is a sin!” You wave off his first attempt at a response. ”I know, I know save it for the priests it’s not my business. But you must know that parading around your mistress like that is… well it’s in bad taste and I mean that as a concerned friend.”

”Emile… our relationship is not outside the bounds of marriage.”

”And another thi-… excuse me?”

”We are wedded, Emile.”

”Cain on the Cross…” Mikail blinks, suddenly figuring out that he should be anywhere but in the immediate vicinity of this conversation.

You reign in your horse suddenly, in shock and momentarily distracted by your squire’s blasphemy. Glasdale is a minor knight of a minor household indeed but he is of noble blood, and he’s gone and married a peasant girl! Mixing bloods... You hear of this in Pascae at times where rich merchants marry their daughters into otherwise bankrupt nobility, and it’s a scandal over here when it happens. But this girl? That’s a common as can be, not even merchant class! A miller's daughter he said!

”But what of your family? Your name?” You demand incredulously.

”They disowned me. I live and work these lands by Lord Bierre’s leave of Right to Land, in return I offer my sword. My name remains Glasdale, and she and my children shall share it.”

”She a bloody miller’s daughter!” You exclaim. ”Why in Pit’s name would you…”

”Love, that’s why.” Sir Glasdale stares at you defiantly. ”Say what you have to Sir Andrei, I’ve heard it all already.”

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>”…You’ve already gone and wed the girl, so what I say matters not.” [Haughty]

>”...Forget I said anything. Let’s just go kill this frakking Monster, alright?” [Hearty]

>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]
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>>3018995
>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]
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>>3018995
>>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]
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>>3018995
>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]
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>>3018995
>>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]


Sigh....Paragon of Chivalry our friend is not but its what god intended for him.
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>>3018995
I am torn between Heart and Idealist. I mean, he at leas had the decency to marry the girl, even if it wasn´t worth his station. In this case though, I would rather adopt a you do you attiude instead of just embracing the foolery our friend has commited.

>”...Forget I said anything. Let’s just go kill this frakking Monster, alright?” [Hearty]
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>>3018995
to be honest if he was just a cad i would of thought worse of him a weakness of the heart is better then a weakness of the loins
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>>3019008
I'm basically in agreeance this rankles our whole Haughtyness of our nobility and the Idealism of the Nobility Knights should have.

>>3018995
I'll change too

>”...Forget I said anything. Let’s just go kill this frakking Monster, alright?” [Hearty]

with a dose of dissaproval
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>>3018995
>”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.” In a common sort of way. [Idealist]

That was a real dilemma between Hearty and Idealist.
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>>3018995
>>”...Forget I said anything. Let’s just go kill this frakking Monster, alright?” [Hearty]
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>>3018995
There should be a lot of more stigma and consequences for him and his family desu.
Marriage between a noble and a commoner in feudal societies like this was a big taboo, especially when it's a literal serf like her and not just some rich merchant's daughter.

A haughty noble like Emile would definitely not remain a friend with him, and other nobility would treat him as a laughing stock. Look at what Tywin did with Tyrion and his common wife. That's how most proud lords would've reacted.
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>>3019026
really depends on how much of friend he was to us desu
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>>3019026
Glasdale was very minor nobility, as discussed in a previous thread. He's been cast out and lives of the borderlands under a noble on the other side of Romaine, I think that's a reasonable outcome given the time. Had he stuck around and paraded his wife at home, murder would certainly have been on the table. He's certainly not welcome to any court that has even heard of him.

The option to refuse to associate with him is there of course, though I do not think Emile would do so before fulfilling his oath to lend aid.
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>>3019037
>He's been cast out and lives of the borderlands under a noble on the other side of Romaine, I think that's a reasonable outcome given the time. Had he stuck around and paraded his wife at home, murder would certainly have been on the table. He's certainly not welcome to any court that has even heard of him.
Then yeah with those consequences i can believe this.

>The option to refuse to associate with him is there of course, though I do not think Emile would do so before fulfilling his oath to lend aid.
That's a fair point. An idealist like Emile won't break his oath no matter what. After he fulfils his oath though...
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You spend several moments calming yourself before you respond. Sir Glasdale has behaved in an ignoble and unknightly way. More ignoble than those Lords with a brace of common mistresses and bastard children? You suppose the priests might have a different opinion on the virtuousness of Glasdale’s decision, but really this would all be less confronting if he was just ploughing the damned woman.

”Well, if you’ve heard it all already… Congratulations. She’s pretty.”

”I… thank you.” Clearly the man had been expecting some resistance. It’s not that you agree with him in any way, you just don’t see the point of arguing with him. The man’s been made a fool of as it is, you don’t wish to push the dagger further in. At least the girl he married was a pleasing sort for a peasant, if a little to informal towards you.

The two of you ride in awkward silence for a time, you continue to struggle with the reality that your friend from the Knights Comitas days is now wedded to a lowborn peasant girl. The village folk make haste to direct you to the discussed farmhouse when you arrive.

”We heard it, m’lord.” Speaks balding man who claims to be kin to those living on the farmhouse. ”Crashin’ n’ hollerin’… n’ screamin’ too, all through the night it went.”


”You did not think to help?” You look at the men gathered in the square, and the scared eyes peeking from the windows. Some fifty all up at least, you wonder if they could have at least scared this beast off with torch and pitchfork before it finished with those on the farmhouse. ”Fifty fine men of Romaine… have you checked for survivors?”

”We… we sent word to your sire, Sir Glasdale in the morning.” The man mutters shamefacedly. ”We… ain’t none of us had the heart to go up there and see what’s left.”

”In the morning. I see.” Sometimes the cravenness of the commonfolk impresses you, this is one of those days. Fifty men could have made a difference, or stood a chance. But they hid and their homes and listened to their kinsmen die. You suppose it may have been for the best, without a man of noble blood to lead and direct them any rescue attempt may have been akin to sending sheep to the slaughter.

[1/2]
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I already like Willhem more than our character, why are we such a stuck-up prude again?

If we die can we play as him?
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>>3019047
>why are we such a stuck-up prude again?
Because those are the traits the players picked for him. If he had humble, then it would be believable for him to not be a prude.
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>>3019047
a knight shold know his place in the world

besides I already posted the Idea of Shekel knight but Anon didn't like it enough over a almost litreal Copy+paste of Gabrielle
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>>3019026
>ditching a friend and a brother in arms

no matter how much of a fool he is, he is our friend, do not act like some sort of protitute that only give their favor for those who can give something back
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>>3019047
Are you really that unable to roleplay a character that has a different worldview than you ? We're currently playing a haughty knight that think himself as naturally superior to peasants, that's it. That's the character we're playing. We're not playing you or any other character with a more modern vision of the world.
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>>3019051
You're right as long we haven't fulfilled our oath. I however find it very hard to believe that a haughty character like Emile would remain friends with Willem after they finished their mission.
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[2/2]

Upon approaching the site of the attack you hear the sound of a shovel turning earth. You find a lucky survivor of the carnage visited upon this farmstead. A tiny thing covered in filthy rags and bedraggled mud-brown hair, she looks every bit the timorous peasant waif. Except for her eyes. Cold and grey, her eyes are as hard as flint.

The farmhouse, or what is left it, would have been twice the size of the commoner’s hovel you spoke to a few minutes ago. It was once, judging by the number of fresh patches of dirt on either side of the adolescent gravedigger, home to a very large family.

Your eyes sweep over the staring, dirt-covered child to a particularly small patch of freshly dug earth. You feel a lump in your throat, the plot cannot be more than two feet in length.

”Reginae wept…” Sir Glasdale mutters as Mikail retches.

"You two is knights?" The hard-eyed girl asks, the question almost a challenge.

"We are." You answer, momentarily taken aback. What else could you be?

"I ent never seen a knight afore." The girl nods thoughtfully, sizing you and Hannibal up. Curiously, she does not shy away from the massive destrier’s inquisitive sniffing nostrils. "But me ma aluss said knights was wearing steel clothes and rode big horses. So I guess you is one."

"The beast did this?" You're not sure whether to be affronted or amused at the child's suspicion, so you stick to the task at hand. The child nods. "What did it look like?"

The stony expression never leaves the youngster's face as she describes...

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>A massive horned beastman, with the head of a bull and cloven hooves. [Minotaur]

>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]

>An undead abomination, a ghoul of unnerving intelligence and size. [Arghoul]

>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]

>A slithering, serpentine monster as long as a caravan with a baleful gaze. [Basilisk]

>[Other]
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>>3019056
>A drake
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That's my last post for tonight, I may be able to post from my phone from tomorrow and answer questions but we likely won't have another update until the day after.

As a matter of feedback, is the combat/battle system working and understandable or is it completely frakked?
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Rolled 2 (1d5)

>>3019056
let the dice decide
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>>3019056
>>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]
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>>3019056
>A massive horned beastman, with the head of a bull and cloven hooves
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>>3019056
>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]
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>>3019056
>>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]
I want the pelt
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>>3019057
A Drake (four legs / two wings) would be a young Dragon, and the only known one of those truly behemoth creatures lies in Palace of Nova Cathago.

I guess a Wyvern (two legs / two wings) is possible, but Adam's sake you guys would be opting for hard mode from the get go as far as monsters go.
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>>3019056
>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]
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>>3019063
>Wanting a Wolf pelt

what are we a Montbrune Thug?
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>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]

Time to slay some eldricht monstruosity. Make the fight terrifying please.
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>>3019055
yeah, but as a harty and idealist character we would never turn our backs on a friend, 2 traits against 1 I guess
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>>3019056
> A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]
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>>3019069
You should link your post to Frogotten so it doesn't get discarded just in case.


>>3019070
I guess you could be right. His idealist and hearty traits can temper and limit his haughtiness.
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>>3019055
We are also an Idealist and hearty, outright abandoning our friend and our oath because this is just flat out wrong for this character IMO

if we want to give him a wide bearth after this unless we fall on hard times Im all for it.
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>>3019074
>if we want to give him a wide bearth after this unless we fall on hard times Im all for it.
That is exactly what i'm saying so i don't why you're arguing with me m8
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>>3019076
>i don't why
''I don't see'' is what i meant to say.
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>>3019076
the the argument it comes off more as a ''lets ditch him entirely'' Argument rather than what you actually are trying to say.

or maybe Im wrong and this cold is screwing with me more than I thought.
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>>3019056
Here is my vote : >>3019069
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>>3019074
Abandoning our friend ? We haven't read the same chapter. He's still our friend, we're just firmly disagreeing with the choices he made. You know, you can do that with your friends without abandoning them...
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>>3019082
>the the argument it comes off more as a ''lets ditch him entirely''
That isn't what i'm saying so don't worry. It is after we fulfil our oath with helping him that i''m talking about.
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>>3019058
>is the combat/battle system working and understandable or is it completely frakked?
Eh, it's easy to understand for me. I can definitely see why some would find it hard to understand.
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>>3019086
and he's disregarded the nobility and virtue of our station to marry a common millars daughter thats goes against our Haughty and Idealistic tendency and makes him little more noble than a peasant.

I'm not saying Abandon him Im saying give him a wide bearth after we are done here as his our Association with him does not play out well for us in larger society.
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>>3019056
>An undead abomination, a ghoul of unnerving intelligence and size. [Arghoul]
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Delicious brown knight waifu when
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>>3019056
wow all of them are imcredible beasts to slain, i kinda hope our tools are good enough for all of them .


i would prefer to fight the Arghoul since we have probably a bit more knowledge on undeads.

but i don t mind, all of them would be cool to slain and will give us a good amount of fame ... and perhaps even something cooler.

(for example choopng the head off the beast and putting it at home could be a thing to do)


going with the :
>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]


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guys any ideas for slain them ? also should we hire some scouts and maybe assemble a party for kill it ? perhaps even a trap ?
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>>3019122
*chopping
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>>3019093
Nah
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>>3019122
>guys any ideas for slain them ? also should we hire some scouts and maybe assemble a party for kill it ? perhaps even a trap ?
We should get a torch if were going inside their lair. A group of scouts would be too expensive for us but a trap could work.
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>>3019058
Since it's very similar to the system you used for BCQ I have no problem. It doesn't seem too difficult even for newbies though.

>>3019093
I wouldn't mind - certainly different than the usual 'befriend everyone and their dogs too'. Hearthy might mean we like to have companions, but we can be choosy about them.

Besides, we can always tell Gladsdale to call us if dangerous beasts appear again after this hunt. Even if we don't associate with him, it would be unbecoming to abandon a fellow knight.

>>3019122
As far as the Creeping Horror is concerned, anywhere but its lair should be an acceptable ground. Alien docet.
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>>3019093
I get what you’re saying but our personality can lead to either option being reasonable and personally I’d rather not be a dick to a childhood friend because he married for love.
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>>3019191
>personally I’d rather not be a dick to a childhood friend because he married for love.
What you or i personally think doesn't matter. We are not playing as you or i, we are playing as Emile.
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>>3019122
I'd love to hire people to help fight the best and we'd be hard pressed to find a vengeance lacking in the region the problem is really doing it on the cheap.

>>3019191
Just because you stop talking to someone does not make you a dick, sure ots not for the most wholesome of reasons but he made his bed in the metaphorical mud and we don't take issue with that however we don't want to get dirty ourselves so we say no thanks and let him sit in it by himself

>>3019141
>Besides, we can always tell Gladsdale to call us if dangerous beasts appear again after this hunt. Even if we don't associate with him, it would be unbecoming to abandon a fellow knight.

Basically this, he still performs Knightly deeds even if society does not agree with his lifestyle so we should not shun providing aid to him only shun his lifestyle.
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>>3019207
You missed the part where I said both choices are perfectly viable, and at the end of the day everyone votes on personal preference regardless
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>>3019216
>and at the end of the day everyone votes on personal preference regardless
Speak for yourself m8. I actually vote based on the characters traits and don't shove my own feelings in it. If we had the option to play Emile however we want him, then i wouldn't be a dick towards Willem because that's what i would've done.
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>>3019224
Maybe you do, but our character has traits that make it just as likely for him to see past his station and remain friends with this guy, so I don’t think we have to ignore him because one of the three traits we have is against him
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>>3019244
>but our character has traits that make it just as likely for him to see past his station
Nah, he really doesn't. Emile is a haughty noble who sees commoners as below his station. He will accomplish the oath he gave to Willem, but it's not really believable he will remain a friend with him after that.
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>>3019250
He is also an idealist who believes in true love and a jolly cooperator. But I guess because he is haughty that takes priority over everything else
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>>3019056
>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]

Get that pelt
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>>3019265
Reminds me of a dnd campaign were one of the party kept skinning everything we killed to sell the pelts, the absolute madman was trying to sell zombie skin
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>>3019261
>He is also an idealist who believes in true love and a jolly cooperator.
Not really.
>Sir Glasdale has behaved in an ignoble and unknightly way. More ignoble than those Lords with a brace of common mistresses and bastard children? You suppose the priests might have a different opinion on the virtuousness of Glasdale’s decision, but really this would all be less confronting if he was just ploughing the damned woman.

Idealist and hearty might temper his haughtiness. But they will never make it gone outright.
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To understand who Emile really is, just look at Solaire in Dark Souls. Idealistic, Haughty and Hearty at the same time.
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>>3019271
And haughtiness doesn’t make his other traits disappear either, but either way who knows what could happen on this quest anyway, we might get nat100’d before this even becomes an issue
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>>3019275
>And haughtiness doesn’t make his other traits disappear either
Yeah, but they clearly override them when it comes to Willem's case. Emile is an idealist so he will fulfil his oath to Willem, but remaining a friend with him after that is not really believable.
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>>3019261
Inversely he also believes in Chivalry, Noblise oblige and the feudal system and privileges of the nobility and that comes with a clear disapproval of miscegenation
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>>3019282
>>3019283
I’d wait until we have more interactions with him and finish this hunt before deciding what our character would do
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>>3019286
>I’d wait until we have more interactions with him and finish this hunt before deciding what our character would do
You're right and i agree. If Willem ends up doing a deed that makes us forever in his debt (like saving our life for example), then it would be completely believable to remain friends even after we fulfilled our oath.
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I believe Emile is an honorable man so he shall always help a friend in need. However, he would not boast of his friendship with Willem with anyone for the shame of associating himself with someone who in his eyes stains the nobility.
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>>3018969
No. It was Dune. Paul explaining to Chani why he has to marry Princess Irulan to legitimize his claim as the new Emperor, and how it's going to work. I actually haven't read Crusader Quest.
>>3019056
>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]
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>>3019321
>I believe Emile is an honorable man so he shall always help a friend in need. However, he would not boast of his friendship with Willem with anyone for the shame of associating himself with someone who in his eyes stains the nobility.
This.
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Hi guys. I was bored, so I decided to quickly redraw the worldmap of this quest a bit more detailed.
Forgotten QM, tell me if you like it.
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>>3019356
it s nice !
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>>3019356
Excellent job Anon.
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>mfw I come back after a long sleep only to find my fellow kniggas at eachother's throats over the concepts of chivalry, being a good/bad friend and at least one or two people wanting to be Willhem instead of trying to change our character for the better.
At least the worst is over for now.

>>3019356
It's a really nice redrawing anon. You did good.

>>3019056
>A vile fiend skittering along the ground on many legs, cold and insectile. [Creeping Horror]
This is a bug hunt man! A bug hunt!
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>>3019056
> a young man, his skin sparkling at the moon´s light, with the strength of a giant and the speed of a falcon

Alternatively, in a more serious mood

>>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]

Even if we feel like our friend has made a bad choice, we must stay true to him. I would really like if we could have a conversation with him about how did they both meet and such. Like, anything other than a silence is good for now and as his friend we must at leas try to comprehend what made him do such act.
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>>3019478
You cheeky fucker I got that reference
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>>3019478
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>>3019429
I wouldn’t say anyone was at eachothers throats, this argument was pretty civil compared to the last thread
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>>3019527
Maybe, perhaps I'm just a big on edge when the echos of last thread reared it's ugly head in the form of people not being happy with what we have now. I'll probably chill the fuck out soon.
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>>3019575
I get it, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little upset over last threads choices, but I’m hoping people will be a little more careful this time around.
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>>3019356
I thank Almighty for blessing this quest with such righteous and gifted players.
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>>3019056

>A direwolf of prodigious proportions, standing nearly as tall as Hannibal. [Direwolf]
I feel like this is a more knightly beast to hunt.
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>>3019872
>>3019356
Ah, I was under the impression that the forest in Motte-Fallavon were the Deepwoods. The map clears it up.
Hey QM, in the lore they talk about the 'Bluejays' and the Duchy image/info posted in the 1st thread talks about the 'Tomcats'. Are they suppose to be the samething, or are they different?
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>>3019872
this quest deserve it.
and i think that even more stuff could arrive (or at least i hope that, how many people have post stuff for the quest ?).
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>>3019056
>>An undead abomination, a ghoul of unnerving intelligence and size. [Arghoul]
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>>3019914
Yes they are the same movement, that image was a little out of date. I changed Tomcat to Bluejay at some point.

Keep in mind every Bluejay is a brigand (and an anarchist/communist to boot) but not every brigand is a Bluejay.
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>>3019917
We have you, Map-bro. We have Rousseau shield-bro, and maybe another shield-bro from last thread when we were hashing out our heraldry.
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>>3019356
Great, this should be the official one.
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>>3020050
Absolutely, as if my shoddy ms paint attempts could compete.
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>>3019976
i m actually not map-bro but the other location for Rousseau shield-bro or
gianni pinotto


just started following on twitter so i can see other stuff


but it s still nice thanks.

>>3019356
i hope he see your comments too
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>>3019356
Sweet map Anon
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It looks like a Creeping Horror is what plagues this region. Disgusting creature!

I will not be able to update until sometime tomorrow, but should probably hash out what this thing is before that as Creeping Horrors come in all shapes and sizes.

Are we thinking giant spider or centipede-like?
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>>3020981
Centipede-like
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>>3020981
Centipede-like
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>>3020981
Yes Centipede is horrifying does it have a face?{/spoiler]
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>tfw no centipede waifu
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>>3020981
>Centipede-Like


It will be difficult to find weak points, since it will probably have a strong carapace. Adding to that probably a spiky tail and a poisounos bite.

So it s legs (could be armoured), the mouth/antennas/eyes or is lower body.

We could try to sneak on it or the trap.

All in all, i suggest after have find is lair 1/2 days of observation (so we can understand some things on it [how fast it is, great, long, intelligent ecc] ; and avoid the shock of see it for the first time in the fight)
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QM is drunk. QM loves you.
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>>3021213
What time is it where you live? It's real early for drinking where I am.
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>>3021216
Probably an Aussie.
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>>3021173
This strikes me as the mark of a seasoned monster hunter not a fresh Errant knight and while I'm all for raising a hunting party it doesn't strike me as an IC thing rather then meta caution warranted by prior experince.

>>3021216
He's a confirmed Ausfag shitposter
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>>3021228
Ah ok

Then just jump to the
lair of the creature, to adventure !
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>>3021228
We have hunted undead with a party before, strength in numbers is a pretty basic tactic
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>>3021273
and like I said Im not opposed to raising a hunting party, what Im opposed to is staking out it lair or stalking the creature itself like a seasoned hunter.

Undead this is not but thats not the topic at hand.
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>>3021228
>>3021284

no really i don t want to be a dick to you but can you suggest something that s is in character then ? because i don t understand what you want Emilie to do now, really.

just charge in and fight it ?


if that s true then asking the advice of Sir Gilbern was a move that didn t make sense for us, regardless of the trait. >>3018929

and also why >>3019056 we have asked questions to the villagers and well even too the remaining victims, plus essentially looking for clues in their destroyed home ?


essentially this 2 actions should be cancelled and we should just be in the forest searching the lair already, right ?
if not then like i said, i m okay even for charging in the lair but at least let s start preparing a new knight because the fight will probably be hard as hell.
(oh and also the symbol of is family so i can make a new shield too thanks)
>>3019675
>lol being careful
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>>3021310
It's pretty disturbing to see Emile being written Emilie since Emilie is a girl french name.
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>>3021310
*emile
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>>3021326
cool map anyway
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>>3021310
Not so much charge in but engage the creature in manner that shows us aware of the advice we were given without being cautious to the point of nigh excessive

A Hunting party is a good start but being prepared for a fight in close quarters and tight spacing where it has a home field advantage is more of a priority.


and of course being aware that we wont have the advantage of horseback in a cave is perhaps the most important thing to remember for the coming hunt.

Finally you are taking way WAY too much out of my comment like I get it was perhaps not the most helpful but still.
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>>3021392
sorry i m being overly paranoid and hostile ; still people could just decide to charge in regardless of what we say now.
sound fine seems more in character of what i was saying before.
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>>3021414
then again the part of the fight hard as hell is probably the thing that will happen, so preparing another knight seems normal.
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>>3020981
>Giant Spider
We Eight Legged Freaks now
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>Creeping Horror
>A monster of the deepest woods of Fallavon, it is rare for them to stray far from their established nest. Party tracker/pathfinder skill too low to offer accurate explanation and other habits.
>Trait 1 [Armoured Carapace]: Compared to other monsters, the Creeping Horror will have a lower DC but higher AV
>Trait 2: Tracker/pathfinder skill too low for knowledge of second trait.
>Trait 3: Tracker/pathfinder skill too low for knowledge of second trait.

Listening to the peasant waif’s account, you quickly determine the nature of what you face here. A Creeping Horror, the foulest and most reclusive of Monsters. You had thought that these vile disgusting creatures lurked only deep within the woods of Motte-Fallavon, not straying out here to open country on the borderlands. Starved of prey or driven by some other disturbance, it must have found the livestock and human commoners surprisingly easy hunting. These creatures are not well known in Romaine, Glasdale and yourself discuss what you recall of such things. It is precious little, you both remember the stories of heroes struggling to pierce their armour but little else.

Unlike the quailing peasantfolk in the village, this lass’s description of the creature is detailed and unburdened with exclamations of how terrifying the whole ordeal must have been. You are somewhat impressed; the girl saw the creature’s work firsthand and still exhibits more courage than her kinsmen who only heard the beast. Though, given her loss, it’s just as possible that she’s gone mad with grief. ”....I were up inna tree, and even then it almos' got me by me leg. Had to scrabble outta the way and get higher, stupid beastie couldn't reach me after that.”

You eye the thick undergrowth warily. It would be difficult to navigate [horse] through that terrain, even worse if you have to frequently dismount and check for tracks. You could spend days to no avail in there. And the odds of enlisting an experienced woodsman from the village are... low.

"I can take you to it." The girl says, obviously thinking the same thing.

"You know where the beast is?" You ask, more sharply than intended. "How?"

"I followed it, didn't I? Followed 'im back to his lair deep inna woods." The girl says defiantly. "I ent no forestirrer but it weren't hard with the big bastard's creepy crawlies crashing all about."

"That was foolish of you!" You scold, though if she knows where the beast is hiding... You appreciate bravery, but generally it’s ill-suited on a peasant girl that wouldn’t even be a snack for a monster like this. You catch Sir Glasdale’s look and nod, you’re being too indelicate in your questioning of the poor wretch. Still, you’re curious. More softly you ask. "Why would your risk yourself like that after barely escaping with your life?”

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[2/2]

>The peasant girl Tam’s assistance means you auto-pass the first pathfinder/tracking test (locating the lair)
>Any pathfinder/tracking test for navigating the lair or locating other exits remains unchanged.

"It weren't even 'ungry wen it done for Jeremy." The girl breaks her gaze from you, looking down at the disheartening little patch of turned dirt. "Dragged him out of the crib, right 'ere to the base of the tree which I was in. …It didn’t et ‘im. Just killed him dead where I could watch. Bashed his head against the tree.”

”God spare us…” Sir Glasdale inhales sharply. Mikail’s retch turns into outright heaving, he makes sick over the side of his horse.

You stare in shock at the girl’s detail of the murder of her baby brother, the evidence of her account horrifically plain and drying on the bark of the old oak before you. Father's stories never mentioned this. Commonfolk eaten by monsters of course, asking knights for aid. But babes, murdered to spite a survivor? Somehow it would have been better had the beast at least been hungry enough to feed on the young infant, though by the Almighty’s grace you can’t say why.


Brother Cain was right to seek the extinction of these creatures. You think to yourself darkly, Hannibal tugging impatiently on his reins.

"Afore we go… It's me da. I... me da's too heavy." The girl looks angry at you, as if it were somehow your fault she didn't have the strength to drag his body to the rest of the freshly dug graves. The corpse splayed in the shattered doorway to the farmhouse looks heavy indeed, the hallmarks of a life of physical labour. Even in death you can tell that the girl’s father looked like a man who had laughed often and loudly in life.

He did not deserve this. His family did not deserve this.

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>"We will give them a proper burial, later. First you and I must make sure this thing harms no one else.” No one deserves this. [Idealist]

>"See to your father later, lass. I will be your vengeance." You swear by the Brother's Light this creature will die by your hand. [Haughty]

>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]

Normally the dead would be burnt, but this border village is far enough from Ardenne that it only makes you uneasy rather than prompting objection.
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Updates will be fairly intermittent today (largely due to this apoplectic hangover. As always, I am free to answer any questions you may have.
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>>3022623
>>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
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>>3022623
>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
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>>3022623
>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
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>>3022633
heh i'm going to feel the same tomorrow myself, i gotcha. gotta utilize the weekend.

>>3022623
>hearty option
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>>3022623
>>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
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>>3022623
>>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
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>>3022623
>>”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.” Despite her unwarranted hostility toward you, Hannibal seems to like her. [Hearty]
She's gone above and beyond her station in life in a single night, and suffered things that would break lesser men, and quite possibly some knights as well. She's more than earned a respite from us.
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”Of course. Mikail will take over, you’ve done enough. Here, sit. Eat.”

The girl shakes her head stubbornly, ignoring your pity and continuing to drag away pathetically small amounts of dirt with her stake of wood. She at least lets Mikail have the shovel. You dismount, long heavy steps send your shadow looming over the girl at work. The hand you place on her shoulder is near as big as her head, she looks up at you with far more insolence than you would normally abide from a commoner. But it would be ill of you to hold her disrespect against her in light of what she’s been through.

”You don’t have to do this. Let my squire continue.”

"He's me da." She says, letting that stand as explanation enough. But she at least takes the proffered jerky Sir Glasdale offers, chewing in stony silence as your knight-comrade and squire lift her father over to the half-finished grave.

You were content to let your squire do the dirty work of shovelling in silence, but you suppose it would be unchivalrous to let your friend bury the man alone. You move to help but Sir Glasdale motions you away with a shake of his head, bidding that you talk to the child. He and Mikail will handle the burying of her father. You find yourself at a loss for words, struggling to find something reassuring to say to the peasant girl who barely comes up to your waist.

”What was your name, girl?”

”Tam.”

”Tam?” Quite blunt for a girl, even a commoner.

”Da tol’ me it were short for somethin’, but me whole life everyone’s jus’ called me Tam.” You have the distinct impression Tam is barely registering your presence, the girl is staring at Mikail and Glasdale with a cold intensity as they bury her father.

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>”Tell me about your family, Tam.” You cannot imagine her hardship. [Hearty]

>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]

>”Have beasts troubled you folk before?” The borders can be dangerous. [Haughty]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>>”Tell me about your family, Tam.” You cannot imagine her hardship. [Hearty]
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>>3022986
>”Have beasts troubled you folk before?” The borders can be dangerous. [Haughty]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
Worst comes to worst she gives us the silent treatment.
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>>3022986
>>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]

Mixed feelings about this girl as potential companion

We know what fate awaits children in forgotten quests
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>>3023221
If she wishes to join us, then she already accepts the fact that she's a dead woman walking.
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3023221
Please no
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>>3023236
That's hardly hearty or idealistic of you anon
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>>3023245
Calling it now, we're gonna get knocked out on our ass and she'll be the only one around to try and buy us time to get back up by trying to use one of our weapons haphazardly against whatever monster or thug we're up against.

>>3023248
Who am I to deny someone their desire for vengeance? You saw as well as I that her own family is dead, her own baby brother murdered before her very eyes. And you are going to tell her to just go back to being a simple peasant? Neigh my Knigga, it's that kind of event that turns the simple folk into either heroes or brigands, and the last thing that Canton needs is another brigand.
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>>3023253
>calling it now, we're gonna get knocked out on our ass and she'll be the only one around to try and buy us time to get back up by trying to use one of our weapons haphazardly against whatever monster or thug we're up against.

>ignoring the fact we have a grown knight and our squire with us

denying her vengeance is fine and all Im not against that, its the

a)letting a child come on a monster hunt our squire is close to manhood

b)letting a girl come on a monster hunt

c)acting like she is a dead girl walking which is an incredibly cynical thing to say.
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>>3023351
>denying her vengeance

I meant helping her seek vengeance
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>>3023351
The only things I have to say to your greentexting and first two points is
>Implying that our dice rolls won't fuck us over
>Not letting a child come on a monster hunt for good learnin
>Implying our squire is a real human being before becoming a knight
I won't lie, I'm an edgy little shit when the mood really strikes me hard.

As for the comment about her being a dead girl walking, yes it is cynical, because she's acting exactly like someone who's life was destroyed before her very eyes and is living in a world where you can't exactly afford a time to deeply mourn without the proper protection of stone walls and armed soldiers.
Maybe she'll actually mourn after the monster is slain, maybe she'll actually pick herself up proper instead of going on autopilot and live her life. But until we get further with the quest, we should be prepared for any crazy shit that may come up from the PTSD and Survivor's Guilt that the kid most definitely has in some fashion.
That don't mean I won't bother to make the Adam & Cain blessed attempt to be the knight in shining armor damnit.
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>>3022986
>>”Tell me about your family, Tam.” You cannot imagine her hardship. [Hearty]
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>>3023425
>Implying dice will fuck us
>Implying it morally responsible to let a child of the come on a hunt thats dangerous for fully trained and equipped Knights
>Implying our squire isn't at someone who could theroetically be a knight one day

Jesus anon you really would flourish if we played a cynic knight.
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>>3023530
>Jesus anon you really would flourish if we played a cynic knight.
Thank you Anon, I really do try. Now, shall we attempt to be the angel of death for little Tam? The shining light in the umbra? Because I sure as fuck am willing to do some good in this world.
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>>3023541
Sure though I hold reservations about bringing her along.

the battlefield is no place for women and children Prince would disagree and this can be subject to change
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>>3023617
Don´t worry this is hunt not a battlefield. And the fact that he has lost his whole family and is severely traumatized only adds benefits to the option o using her as live bait. Path of Thorns all the way, baby
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>>3023623
Path of thorns belongs to shekel knight in the beginning
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>>3022986
>>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]

Wait.
We are still the start of the journey of this pg and we meet a sad child, that was in a very dangerous situation.
I have the strangest daja-vu.
(Forgotten's traumatized childred™)
At least she's not mute. And has a gender.
Kid was nicer, but he also didn't witness is family slaughtered. Details, details.
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>>3024166
>Kid was nicer, but he also didn't witness is family slaughtered

hey we don't know that we never got much beyond he was a boy conscripted into the Imperial army.
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]

>>3023221
Makes fuck all sense to bring some random peasant child with us to a hunt where she will be a burden and get killed. She has sub-zero usefulness and we don't even need her since we can only use 2 companions in battle at most. Stupid player choices like this are what got Gabriel killed.
>>3023236
What if she wishes to join us to or not doesn't matter. She is just some random kid that has absolutely no usefulness to us. She will just burden us and eventually get killed since she can't fight unless Forgotten brings some bullshit explanation.

>>3023253
Emilie is a haughty noble and doesn't give a fuck about ''making simple folk into heroes or brigands''. He considers them just sheep for the slaughter without any noble to protect them. You're clearly using cynical thinking which means fuck all to a haughty idealist like Emile. Bringing a peasant kid like with us will be considered humiliating and insane to Emile. We're not playing Prince.

>>3023623
>Don´t worry this is hunt not a battlefield.
Semantic tactics aren't gonna work. A hunt will include a battle with a monster so it's meaningless to play word games.
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>>3024185
She knows where the cave is and Forgotten has already said that she will give us an auto success in that roll for that. Now, I would be content to leave her in the entrance of the cave or have Mikhail escort her to the village. Also, chill a bit.

>>3024185
>Player choices and not bad dice and not having Death´s Door mechanic are what killed Gabriel

Ah, okay, you are that anon.
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>>3024187
>She knows where the cave
Which she can tell and lead us to it's location without us having to bring her to the actual hunt and battle with the monster.

>I would be content to leave her in the entrance of the cave or have Mikhail escort her to the village.

I can agree with this. Bringing her inside the cave where we will actually battle the monster would be batshit insane.


>Player choices and not bad dice and not having Death´s Door mechanic are what killed Gabriel
What killed Gabriel was the player's choice to chase the beastman into his camp knowing fully well that we don't have a companion with us to use Death's Door. Scapegoating the dice without accounting the choices that led to the fatal battle is pathetic.
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>>3022986
>”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what happened.” Father called it battleshock. [Idealist]

Something related to Tam's eventual joining: I don't think a Haughty knight would necessarily reject such an offer. An Idealist would turn her down, probably citing the danger of the hunt or the role of women (although Romaine has female bodyguards, so maybe not?) but I could see Emile telling her 'You can come with us to have your vengeance, but don't get in our way'.

From what we've seen, he considers peasants inferior to nobles but not necessarily useless, or he wouldn't have said that fifty men could have made the difference against the abomination.
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>>3024195
>An Idealist would turn her down, probably citing the danger of the hunt or the role of women (although Romaine has female bodyguards, so maybe not?)
That example isn't valid because Romaine female bodyguards are adults who were trained and can actually fight. She on the other hand would be completely useless and a burden since:

1. She has absolutely zero knowledge about fighting

2. We can only have two companions to fight with us, so she is useless even if she could fight.


I don't mind taking her with us to lead us where the cave is, but taking her inside the cave and having her be in the actual battle would be absolutely dumb.
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>>3024201
Not make her join the fight, no. But maybe helping us smoking the creature out of its lair, other than tracking it of course.

Also, your own argument here >>3024192 is invalid because Forgotten mentioned Death's Door for the first time after Gabriel rolled a nat 100. But let's not beat that dead horse again, shall we?
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>>3024192
Anon, the Beastmen where noob level enemis and we didn´t know about the Death´s Door mechanic at that time. Do everyone a favour and stop being full of shit. No matter what character we would have made, it would have died. I agree we should have tried to save the peasant woman, but we are a knight, not a fucking damsel in distress. If we , either IC or OoC, had feared a three beastmand band we wouldn´t have been a knight worth shit.

I am telling all of this as the guy which suggested to accept the beastman surrender to hang it at the nearest town, which, surprise, surprise, everyone opposed, even those which had voted for rescuing the woman. We took the option of continuing the fight and give no quarter, which I accepted, because it was a good roleplaying option for the kind of character we were playing. All of this fucking nagging came afterwards the continous set of bad rolls (fumble, 8 on the dismount roll, no succeses the next round). So shut the fuck up.
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>>3024185
>Makes fuck all sense to bring some random peasant child with us to a hunt

I was talking more in a long term sense I'm totally against bringing her on the hunt for the record.

>tfw Forgotten say he will update sporadically but barely posts 2 updates
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>>3024207
>Not make her join the fight, no. But maybe helping us smoking the creature out of its lair, other than tracking it of course.
Roger said we can't smoke out them no matter what because they have plenty of exits so your point doesn't matter.

>Also, your own argument here >>3024192 (You) is invalid because Forgotten mentioned Death's Door for the first time after Gabriel rolled a nat 100.
No it doesn't. Death's Door was already a known mechanic you can read at the system's guidelines. Not my problem if the players didn't read how the battle system actually works. And even without Death's dorr, going out to an enemy camp without a companion is stupid in it self.

> But let's not beat that dead horse again, shall we?
If you didn't want ''want that dead horse'', then you wouldn't have replied to my argument in the first place. Also the horse was beaten dead because of the players stupid choices.

>Anon, the Beastmen where noob level enemis
It doesn't matter. We were a noob level knight that just barely drew first bood so your point is invalid. I arleady addressed Death's door. No, we wouldn't have. The character died because of the player's cockiness and retarded choices. We were an amateur knight that never killed monsters before, so we absolutely sould've feared a three beastmen band, especially with no companion with us.
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>>3024219
>sould've
Should've


>I was talking more in a long term sense I'm totally against bringing her on the hunt for the record.

Yeah, this is exactly my view too.
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>>3024215
>>3024221
Sorry, i forgot to link your post.
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>>3024219
>No it doesn't. Death's Door was already a known mechanic you can read at the system's guidelines.
By all means, link me the image or post in the previous thread where it was stated. No greentext, the exact image or post if you please.

But don't worry Montbrunfag, I won't ruin your fantasies about stupid choices anymore for today. I will stand here and wait until one of your '''''master plans''''' rolls a nat 100 and Emile dies for it.
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>>3024219
>he character died because of the player's cockiness and retarded choices

unequivocal bullshit that cavalcade of disaster was not the result of cockiness and so called ''retarded'' choices

stop being a salty faggot about it and move on.
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To clarify, the choice of whether to allow Tam to accompany inside has not yet been made. I didn't see anything unchivalrous with allowing the girl to lead you to the lair.

>>3024242
I did go over the concept in the qtg, but it was still a WIP by that point and I don't think I covered it in the first thread prior to the Crit fail.

Neither of you are wrong, chasing the beastman was the more dangerous option but it was far from suicide. I had aimed for anons to be voting on a moral choice not just which was safer. To be perfectly honest you guys absolutely dominated prior to that crit, and the rolls following the crit it were so bad that there was nothing that could have saved you. If you had rolled like that in any of the previous opening combats to it I suspect that the result would not have been much different.

>>3024215
Ja ja, posting now. We're going to slink back to a once-a-day update now.
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>>3024257
>I didn't see anything unchivalrous with allowing the girl to lead you to the lair.

See I think theres a a miscommunication about having the girl lead us to the lair= fighting the creature with us when they are in fact seperate ideas

also Dammit forgotten at least confirm you are mostly free when doing a session.
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>>3024259
A 12 hour gap isn't intermittent enough?

But you're right, I should have emphasised that was not properly running a session today.
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>>3024259
>>3024257
As I have said, we can always compromise and use her as live bait. She won´t be actually fighting but she will play a major par on kilin the monster. Everyone wins and if anything goes worng nothing of value was lost.
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>>3024268
That..... doesn't sound very chivalrous
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>>3024268
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>>3024242
Following the beastman into his camp without companions was retarded even without knowing about death's door so your point doesn't matter.

>>3024250
I don't understand what you're saying? Are you saying that it wasn't because of the players chocies and cockiness?

>>3024257
I don't mind her leading us to the lair. Having her go inside with us and be at the battle is insane and dumb.

>>3024268
>Everyone wins
Except if she get's killed by the retarded plan of using her as bait, so not everyone will win like you say. Or are you going to sacpegoat the dice again if she get's killed, and not admit it was your retarded choice of using her as bait.
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>>3024274
> Are you saying that it wasn't because of the players chocies and cockiness?

Yes by Forgottens own admission while it was the more dangerous option the fact we rolled that 100 plus the rolls after that doomed us.

nothing before that set anything in stone
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>>3024278
The fact it didn't set anything in stone doesn't matter. It still what led us into it in the first place which amplified it. It's an objective fact that Gabriel wouldn't have died if we didn't chase the beastman into his camp like retards.
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orry I´m just joking. If she dies it is a farmhand and fertile woman the lord of these domains will lose, which will both reduce the food reaped from the soil and the number of soldiers we can levy against the enemy in an emergency.

Also, it would imply that the monster also wins, since it can enjoy yet another tasty snack before dying, and that is a big no-no. If we had means to infect the girl with the plague or fill her gut with poison though.... the edge...it is too strong
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>[horse]
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”Sometimes it helps, to talk about what it.” You’d never seen yourself before, not something the bards sung about much, but Father had told you about it when he was in his cups. Explaining why he’d given one of his man-at-arms a job in the gardens, despite there being not a scratch on him. Battleshock, he’d called it. You’re unsure whether the girl is suffering the same illness, but you find the idea that a child of her age and breeding could remain unshaken equally disturbing.

”Helps what?” Tam asks bluntly. ”Talking won’t help them none.”

”I know, child.” You sigh, incapable of taking insult with her tone right now. ”But they can still hear you. Listen to you. As… horrific… as this all may have been, they are with the Almighty now.”

”Guess that’s what the priests say, innit. I ent seen it.” Tam shrugs, blasé in her doubtful blasphemy. You shift uncomfortably, ill-equipped to address a child’s crisis in faith. The priests and your sisters at home had run circles around you philosophically, you’d always prefer to wield a longsword over a book.

”Should we get a priest for this?” Mikail asks, wiping his forehead as they finish up with the grave. Sir Glasdale shakes his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXeFq4KlRf8

”Not so much as a chapel for quite a ways. I’ll… I’ll try to do it as the Grandmaster would have…” Willem looks uncomfortable, struggling to remember the words. But his voice is steady and does not falter. It’s as good a rite as can be expected given the circumstances. ”Sanctus Vita. Sanctus Mortem. Sancte Salvae Reginae, Mother of Man, Compassion of the Almighty, Blessed Beati. Into your arms we commend these gentlefolk, wipe their tears and tend their wounds. Wrap them in your loving embrace, grant them peace in Heaven that they did not find in life…”

”..Don’t have the words, sir Knight. None that seem to fit anyhow.” The girl mutters as Willem continues with the burial rites. ”Talkin’ can wait for another day. Doing feels more proper right now.”

The girl strides off towards the treeline, only stopping to look back when she reaches the edge. ”Well? You coming or what?”

[1/2]
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>>3024293
Yeah the translation from rough notes to narrative review doesn't always pan out.
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>>3024288
>and fertile woman the lord of these domains will lose
Ah, so that's why you want her to accompany us so much. I should have guessed considering the website i'm browsing.
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>>3024281
>The fact it didn't set anything in stone doesn't matter

opinion discarded fuck off
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>>3024301
Discarding it won't make it wrong, but sure.
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>>3024300
Adamdammit anon, how am I supposed to convey to you that tis merely a jest?
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>>3024305
you're entire fucking premise is incorrect most of last fucking thread was devoted to telling your dense ass that you were wrong

go an hero yourself
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>>3024308
You're anonymous to me, so it doesn't really matter if you were jesting or not.

>>3024309
>you're entire fucking premise is incorrect most of last fucking thread was devoted to telling your dense ass that you were wrong
Anon, you're words aren't divine mandate that turn everything you shit out of your mouth into fact. Shitting out the words ''you're entire fucking premise is incorrect'' out of your mouth won't make my premise any less correct like it you or not.
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>>3024312
the fact you can't wrap your thick noggin around the fact we were only screwed by arbitary dice rolls rather then a tertiary decision that you disagreed with is proof enough of your flawed premise.
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>>3024319
It isn't a fact no matter how much you repeat it. We didn't get screwed by the dice. We got screwed by the retarded choices that led to the situation of us getting fucked by the dice in the first place.
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That's enough now. I'm all for the occasional heated debate but this has been dragging on since last thread and is achieving nothing.
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Yeah, stop this guys. This is a boring.
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>>3024322
>It isn't a fact no matter how much you repeat it.
and regardless of the fact how often you continue to moan on and on like a complete luddite that it isn't, the fact remains it is a goddamn fact.

>We didn't get screwed by the dice
except we did

>We got screwed by the retarded choices that led to the situation of us getting [bold]fucked by the dice in the first place.[/bold]

litreally countering yourself here go fuck yourself

>>3024323
>>3024328
I'm done with this I wanted to move on before the end of last thread the fact this moron keeps bringing it up is nothing short of infuriating.
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>>3024329
Well, just ignore him ?
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>>3024329
>and regardless of the fact how often you continue to moan on and on like a complete luddite that it isn't, the fact remains it is a goddamn fact.
No it isn't a fact. You could repeat it until your lungs break off, won't make it any less false. Your words don't turn false bullshit into truth.

>except we did
No, we didn't. We got screwed by the retarded which allowed the dice to fuck us.

>litreally countering yourself here go fuck yourself
I didn't counter my self in anything. What screwed us was the choices, the dice simply set it into stone.

>>3024323
I'm all for stopping debates if people don't want to debate. I'm not gonna stop replying if they want to continue the debate though.

>>3024329
>I'm done with this I wanted to move on before the end of last thread the fact this moron keeps bringing it up is nothing short of infuriating.

That's your problem if you don't like my opinions. You're the one who replied to me in the first place.
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>>3024295
Uhm good.


But where she is going ? Don t tell me she wants to go there already, we need at least sometime for 3/5 torches.


Also are we okay with energy ? Fighting the beast without forces sound like a good way for preparing a new knight (ok a part jokes, it s better to have one prepared on hand. This time with more experience)
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[2/2]


The woodlands of the Fallavon-Romaine border are like nothing you’ve ever seen. You have woods in Romaine, of course. Father took you and Damien hunting in them often enough during the summer, when the threat of Deadmen packs had abated following the break of winter. But you sense something altogether different when you enter the Fallavon treeline, a stark sensation that this is not your territory and you are an outsider in this arboreal realm. An unwelcome one.
The trees are not so thick yet that you find yourself confined and unable to manuever ahorse, but you do wonder at how anyone can hunt or woodwork out here and not get lost. But for the peasant girls help Almighty knows how long you and Sir Glasdale would have spent wandering in these forbidding woods before you tracked the beast to its lair. That is if you even could, you freely admit you’re no forester.

In contrast, the cave itself is quite scenic. At first glance you see nothing amiss, enough to begin to question whether your guide is at all reliable. A discarded body in the side bush puts paid to that. Not human, thank Almighty, but stripped of meat and flensed to the bone attentively. Not a scrap was wasted. The beast is here alright…

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Pathfinder Roll
>[Autopass - Tam shows you the way]
>You arrive at the lair before day's end
>Staying to bury the corpses means it is now near sundown

(1) Remember Sir Gilbern's advice.

> "Torches." Try and smoke the creature out, face it at the mouth of the cave. It may be possible if you find and block all the other exits.[Hearty]

>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]

>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]


(2) Select 2 Companions at Battle-brothers
>Tam (+0DC, +5AV, Untested)
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)


(3) Directing Companions
One torch between you is all that is needed for the Torch benefits of reducing Monster re-rolls and darkness penalties, but further torches will ensure that the benefit is not lost at the first disarm result. Carrying a torch means the companions does not get the AV benefit of their shield.
>1 companion carries a torch.
>2 companions carry Mikail and Willem carry torches.
>3 You all bear torches.
>No torches. Mother wept, man.

(4) Non-battlebrother companion (likely Tam)
>Wait with the horses.
>Go home.
>Give them a torch.
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>>3024339
1.
> "Torches." Try and smoke the creature out, face it at the mouth of the cave. It may be possible if you find and block all the other exits.[Hearty]
2.
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)
3.
>2 companions carry torches.
4.
>Give them a torch.
>Wait with the horses.
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>>3024339
>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]


>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)


>2 companions carry Mikail and Willem carry torches.

>Wait with the horses.
>Give them a torch.
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>>3024339
1.
>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]

2.
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)


3.
>2 companions carry Mikail and Willem carry torches.

can we carry a torch?

4.
>Wait with the horses.

If we do not return within the day take the horses and find..... I want to say Baliff? the warden/peasant mediator of the region and alert them to the beast problem if it kills two trained Knights it should warrant attention.
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>>3024339
>near sundown


Wait wait wait

Did we ask to Tam when the creature attacked ? If Not ask that now ! N O W !
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>>3024339
(1)
>"And now we wait" The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready [Haughty]
Not the smartest option, I know, but the vision of a knight in armour, sitting quietly on a rock in front of a cave entrance, his sword firmly planted in the ground in front of him, both hands on the pommel at face level, is just too badass.

(2)
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)
No dilemma on this one. The girl stays behind.

(3)
>1 companion carries a torch.
We give the torch to Mikail. Willem and we must have both our hands free for the incoming fight.

(4)
>Go home.
It's too dangerous to let the girl at proximity, she should just go home and wait for us, now that she led us to the lair.
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>>3024339
>”Caves. Every creature I’ve ever had to hunt, from beast to basilik, it’s almost always ended with us tracking them to a cave, ruin or some other dark and confining pit. You have a friend going with you? Good, impossible to watch your back otherwise. So many hidden side-tunnels… The unfortunate truth is, it’s unlikely you’ll be in the open and ahorse when the time comes unless it’s nightfall and the creature is ravenous and confident enough to be hunting you instead. You can’t smoke them out most of the time, they generally have more than one exit. So be prepared to venture within, cornering the creature in its lair. Just, for Pits sake, make sure someone is carrying a torch. Monsters do well in the dark, men don’t.”

Posting it here

>>3024339

I believe the best thing we can do is wait until sundown and face it in the field, where we might be able to use our horses

Suggestion:

>Nick Tam n the wrist and smear a bit of blood in the entrance of the cave. The creature should remember the scen and that will make it commit mistakes

Make a big bonfire, hide Tam somewhere and prepare to give the monster the time of its live. Can we do that?
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>>3024346
Forgot to add Willem as battle brother.

>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)
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>>3024348
Addendum if we do not return within [insert reasonable monster slaying time here she is to flee as fast as she can to the local Baliff[/spoiler]
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>>3024352
The thing is, as caves have many entrances, if we don´t bait the thing, it won´t come to us. It might as well use another entrance and make us seem like fools. This way we can face it in an optimal estate.

Completing last post:

>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]

>Mikhail and Glasdale

If we manage to do a bonfire:

>No torches

>Non-battlebrother companion

Hide in the top of a tree a bit far away from here, so the beast doesn´t kill her in a whim.
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>>3024349
>”We heard it, m’lord.” Speaks balding man who claims to be kin to those living on the farmhouse. ”Crashin’ n’ hollerin’… n’ screamin’ too, all through the night it went.”

The monster should be about to wake up. Maybe still asleep, if we're very lucky.
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>>3024339
>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]

no fucking going into its lair where it holds all the advantages

Everybody stays put
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>>3024363
Actually you're right. Going inside it's lair would put us in a disadvantage.

>>3024339
>>3024346
>>3024355
I'm making a final change to this:

>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]

>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)


>2 companions carry Mikail and Willem carry torches.

>Wait with the horses.
>Give them a torch.

Not making any more changes. I'm really Sorry if i confused you Forgotten during the count.
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>>3024362
I know it that we should have pay more attention.
Next time we need to know even if someone can t fart anymore.


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But now what we do ? There is a small chance to find it still sleeping and somehow surprise it and kill the beast.
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>>3024371
Nah too risky. Really.
The question is when we fight it ?

>>3024367
Support
Also what is the equipment of Glasdale ?
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>>3024375
>Also what is the equipment of Glasdale ?
Did Forgotten tell us?
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>>3024377
Better check the other posts, maybe i don t have read all
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>>3024379
I don't think i can find anything.

He's an impoverished knight but he should still have decent equipment.
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>>3024371
a small chance is better than no chance but Im entirely not sure if its worth the risk.

the problem is once the sun sets it gets field advantage so regardless of if we fight it in the cave or out in the open we'll be at a disadvantage so ditto for any field options besides burning everything down within a mile.

a bonfire won't really work as it'll more than certainly just leave and kill more people and be aware that it has predators nearby.
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>>3024352
>>3024360

Any other anons suppor smearing the entrance in blood to lure the beast? If we don´t so something to lure it here, it might as well go through another of the many entrances. Remember that they go ravenous at night.

Also, bonfire instead of torches
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>>3024387
>Any other anons suppor smearing the entrance in blood to lure the beast?
I support this. We should have a bonfire AND have Tam carry a torch just in case. The monster might be smart and do something to the bonfire to get an advantage.
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>>3024385
>a bonfire won't really work as it'll more than certainly just leave and kill more people and be aware that it has predators nearby.
>>3024360
>if we don´t bait the thing, it won´t come to us.
Why would it leave instead of being baited as per the other anon's logic? To my understanding his logic was the bonfire was suppose to make us seem like either more of a meal or act similarly to attempting to smoke the creature out, but bigger. Or a second phase to >>3024387 blood bait.

>>3024385
>a small chance is better than no chance but Im entirely not sure if its worth the risk.
If none of us specialize or have experience in stealth or hunting in those conditions, I'd agree that it isn't worth the risk. Perhaps we could try something to make it sleep longer or more heavily than usual? Poison or a hypothetical sleeping gas?
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>>3024391
for creatures like it fires mean people and people mean danger
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>>3024392
You should remember Robert's advice though. It will become ravenous at night and will be confidant to hunt us down out of it's lair.
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>>3024385
honestly in the field it seems like it would have a greater fighting advantage being able to swing it's body how it pleases in the lair it seems it would have a greater ambushing advantage as it can use tunnels and the roof
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>>3024385
I find it really dangerous.


There are six options for resolve this =

1 Attacking it now in the cave (several levels of no)

2 wait here (screams)

3 wait near here (maybe we can stay alive. Just maybe)

4 go back to the village (alive... maybe )

5 wait on the borders of the forest (maybe)

6 attacking outside the cave waiting put the torches around us so we can see all around us avoiding the problem of the night (plus probably making the creature uneasy at least with is eyes/ now it s a fair fight )
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>>3024393
bonfires mean alot of people it's not foolish it dosen't go into the center of the village to hunt it goes for hovels where people are sleeping
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>>3024391
Bonfire would probably spook it a bit, as it is a savage creature. However, the knigh we meet the other day said that the beasts are ravenous creatures by night and it has already tasted Tam´s parents so it would make sense for the blood to have a familiar and delicious smell to it.

I don´t think neither poison or sleeping gas are doable at the moment. We don´t have neither the time or the knowledge to make those, and the beast kills more people every night
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>>3024396
at the outskirts*
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>>3024397
Basically do bonfire to protect us agaisnt darkness but also lure it with blood, as it is ravenous by night
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>>3024391
>Why would it leave instead of being baited as per the other anon's logic? To my understanding his logic was the bonfire was suppose to make us seem like either more of a meal

because as anon said fire=danger lots of fire= lots of danger

>Perhaps we could try something to make it sleep longer or more heavily than usual? Poison or a hypothetical sleeping gas?

we're a Knight not an Alchemist.

>>3024394
yep lose lose regardless of the field we will probably have to give up on seeking a field advantage IMO as things stand.

>>3024395
yeah not good but this beast MUST be slain either by us or others.
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>>3024396
That's a good point, but Forgotten said that we should trust Robert's advice, so i'm gonna have to stick to it.
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Now that i think about we could have another advantage against it (other than the torches all around for see better during the fight), the fact that this beast could just think at us like the peasants.
So to be clear :

-Easy to find
-Easy to kill
-Easy to eat
-No fight
-weak humans tasty meal


But this bastard will receive the surprise of some good old steel and fighting spirit of a group.


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The cave needs to be checked anyway. I don t want anything alive. Even if one egg could be given to someone for research the creature and understand more on it, and writing a book on it.
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>>3024339
>>3024352 >>3024360 >>3024400 +1

>>3024396 >>3024411
>because as anon said fire=danger lots of fire= lots of danger
Perhaps we can discuss with the others for input, or put it up to a vote for risking scaring it away with a bonfire?
How much time do we have? Alternatively, we could plant a number of lit torches around the area, or unlit torches ready to be lit just before or when the fight starts. That might mitigate appearing too threatening without sacrificing visibility and defense. Perhaps we could try giving it larger bait with some food? Would a living or dead sacrifice be more valuable than others?
>>3024397
>I don´t think neither poison or sleeping gas are doable at the moment. We don´t have neither the time or the knowledge to make those, and the beast kills more people every night
>>3024411
>we're a Knight not an Alchemist.
One of my other ideas was along the lines of feeding food poisoned with something crude like feces, urine, and stakes, assuming it wouldn't detect it in time. Potentially a full carcass if we had enough time, to disguise it better.

>>3024422
>But this bastard will receive the surprise of some good old steel and fighting spirit of a group.
How would we utilize that any more than if it wasn’t underestimating us? Setting a trap or decoys?
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>>3024426
No a trap requires time and attention.

We lack it. The fight could be inevitable.


>>3024422
We could have that advantage.

Because there is a small chance that this beast as already fight other knights .
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>>3024426
>Perhaps we can discuss with the others for input

that burns precious time that we don't have and limited discussion is not really useful right now

>or put it up to a vote for risking scaring it away with a bonfire?
I mean thats essentially what we're doing right now.

>How much time do we have?
Read.The.Post. its just before sundown we have precious little time before the beast awakens.

most of your plans involve burning time to gain a field advantage we can't afford to set up currently we just don't have time.

>One of my other ideas was along the lines of feeding food poisoned with something crude like feces, urine, and stakes, assuming it wouldn't detect it in time. Potentially a full carcass if we had enough time, to disguise it better.

again we don't have the time not to mention resources to do this and dealing with such things is hardly within the confines of our character as it stands.
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>>3024339
(1)
>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]

(2)
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)

(3)
>1 companion carries a torch. (Mikail)

(4)
>Give them a torch.
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>>3024435
>I mean thats essentially what we're doing right now.
Yeah, but the NPCs have the advantage of being written from the QM's perspective. That was an idea, but we’re too late to receive their input before combat begins.

>Read.The.Post. its just before sundown we have precious little time before the beast awakens.
I wasn't aware if nearly sundown means either the late afternoon or twilight with a few hours or minutes left before it awakens at night at which phase of the moon. Nor how quickly daylight changes in this region. I'm not familiar with nocturnal sleep cycles nor how differently monsters would handle it. I'll take your word for it.
>most of your plans involve burning time to gain a field advantage we can't afford to set up currently we just don't have time.
Those were ideas in case we had the time to do something other than wait around. However, we could bring it up in the future when we can prepare.
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>>3024339
>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]
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For the love of god don’t go in the monsters cave unless we absolutely have to
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Some random thoughts on this before I vote:

> Centipede is a beast
The thing took Tam's brother to her and killed him just to taunt her. It's a beast but cunning, at least in a cruel way. We shouldn't expect it to fall for obvious tricks.

> Bonfire
Should it see a bonfire I fear the insect would just avoid it ouright, even if baited with the scent of blood.

>Blood bait
I like this idea. Smear it near the cave entrance and then on a rage put outside and the creature should come out to check it out. It would give us enough time for a surprise attack, at the very least.

> to stay or to not stay put?
Who says it will come out of this particular entrance? There might be more, and we don't know if baiting it will be succesful. We could even be get attacked from behind if unlucky or waste the night.

On the other hand, waiting is safer and should deny even more advantages if the bait works.
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>>3024339
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>>"And now we wait." The creature will come to you in time, and you shall be ready. [Haughty]

This thing's mannerisms tell me that it is confident enough to hunt us out of it's cave.

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>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)

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>3 You all bear torches.
We can drop them if needed, but the more the merrier.

4
>Go home.
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>>3024492
>Who says it will come out of this particular entrance? There might be more, and we don't know if baiting it will be succesful. We could even be get attacked from behind if unlucky or waste the night.
true but >>3024395
if we put the torches around us outside the cave and using a blood bait we have a chance of winning and know where he is. Since we are in three we can face three positions for see him, especially if we stay back to back.
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>>3024506
As I said, baiting it with blood could work. Not 100% sure, but it's a chance I'm willing to take.

Putting torches/bonfires nearby hower wouldn't be a good idea though. I doubt the beast would peek out once it sees them because it seems to possess some cunning - it might sense it's a trap.

Instead of setting them nearby, everyone (except the girl) should hold a torch, hide until the creature comes out and then attack it once it's outside.
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>>3024517
no Tam doesn t need to fight, she will just die. the creature will probably recognize her as a grub so it will kill it first.
plus the creature has attacked a home of a village at night with a family inside, there were probably some fonts of light there. the beast just avoid the fire, but that hasn t stop the attacks.


no doubt it will find the situation strange but with that we can see better and avoid doing rolls for stop/counter attack the creature when he will inevitably try to divide us during the fight.

and with just the torches in the hands of our party that could very well happen.

especially if the night is dark and full of terrors.
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>>3024533
>he


hell this thing could have a partner.
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>>3024533
Hmm. What if we stack wood near the entrance of the cave, to the sides so not to be seen from the inside. Then when it emerges to fight one of our companions tips the wood over in front of the entrance and lights it on fire.

That way when we do fight the Creeping Horror can't retreat into it's lair. At least not through that entrance.
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>>3024533
...why do you think I wrote 'everyone (except the girl)'?

> plus the creature has attacked a home of a village at night with a family inside, there were probably some fonts of light there
Little candles and lanterns maybe, not torches.

> no doubt it will find the situation strange
You have your answer on how it will react then. Don't underestmate the bastard just because it's a beast.
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>>3024540
i didn t understand in the sense of the fact that she wasn t in the fight, but that she wouldn t have a torch.
sorry for the misunderstanding
>Little candles and lanterns maybe, not torches.

that still something, now it s obvious that a torch produce more but it s still fire


>You have your answer on how it will react then. Don't underestmate the bastard just because it's a beast.


but we really need to see on the night., since we are going to wait for him.

and that s an advantage for the creature, that can just go circles around us and then attack, seeing us without problems. while we will probably struggle in finding him.
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>>3024492
>I like this idea. Smear it near the cave entrance and then on a rage put outside and the creature should come out to check it out. It would give us enough time for a surprise attack, at the very least.
>>3024592
>and that s an advantage for the creature, that can just go circles around us and then attack, seeing us without problems. while we will probably struggle in finding him.
We could try smearing blood bait on the most tanky person with a shield to aggro the Creeping Horror on them, perhaps having said bait feigning injury or weakness. >>3024339
>One torch between you is all that is needed for the Torch benefits of reducing Monster re-rolls and darkness penalties, but further torches will ensure that the benefit is not lost at the first disarm result. Carrying a torch means the companions does not get the AV benefit of their shield.
Thus having to worry less both about the torch bearers being disarmed, and their lower AV rating. Selling into the >>3024422 the Creeping Horror supposedly underestimating us. If it works then the Creeping Horror will be more predictable, at least until it wises up. Even then it might buy some brief hesitation.

>>3024539
From what >>3024431 >>3024435 said we might not have enough time for that, unless we stack a bunch of grass and wood nearby into a crude pile to light like the bonfire plan. Or use our spare torches to fulfill a similar role.
>>3024339
>>You arrive at the lair before day's end
>>Staying to bury the corpses means it is now near sundown
>>3024453
I'm not sure what the actual time limit is from this description, but I'm guessing it's roughly 5 minutes-2 hours before the transition to night completes and the Creeping Horror is fully awake? Presumably only enough for whatever we have on hand or nearby?
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>>3024592
>>3024492

My guess is that even a bonfire wouldn´t deter it much. I mean, the creature has attacked more than just one night. Wouldn´t it make sense for peasants to put a bonfire near their home to ward away creatures of the dark or big enough vermin which might have killed their neighbors?

Although it is tru that the creature ha shown some cunning, it has been mostly just cruelty. Its hunger and the presence of a familiar prey should whip it into a frenzy and make it more careless.
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>>3024535
>pic related
That would require a crit-fail on the next roll.


I'm loving the discussion here, we have a definite consensus on companions etc. But I'm not sure where we are at with our main approach.

Could I please have anons respond to this post with their preferred approach (venture forth, wait and bait, smoke it out) along with any other extra actions. Sundown is soon but last light is still some time away, let's say an hour or two. I will try to write up an approach that is in line with the general approach anons can agree on.
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>>3025875
FYI, heading into the lair will provide a chance of catching the creature unprepared but on its preferred turf. Smoke out and/or wait means the creature will be ready but less likely to engage in a game of cat and mouse.
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>>3025875
Personally I would rather venture forth as it was part of the Knight's advise on what to do and i'm not to keen on smoke it out/wait for it, but if it came down to it wait for it sounds better.
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>>3025875
Venturing forth is my priority but if it doesn't have nearly enough votes baiting it out with blood of some kind be it ours someone else's or a beasts is nearly just as good.
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>>3025875
Can we cut some long branches into spears to use against the monster in the confined space of the cave? That way people behind can still harry it while the front line defends.

Can we also stake an entrance with some more pointy sticks facing into the cave, space far enough apart that we can slip between them but the Monster can't?
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>>3024339
>(1)
>>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]
>(2)
>>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)
>(3)
>>1 companion carries a torch. (Mikail)
(4)
>wait with the horses
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>>3024339
1)
>"We shall not fear the Pit." Bring Light to the Darkness, and confront the beast within its lair. [Idealist]

2)
>Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 15AV, Comrade)
>Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 40AV, Comrade)

Did you really give us the option to bring a child into a battle? Really? REALLY? I admit I was tempted.

(3)
>2 companions carry Mikail and Willem carry torches.

One of them can throw their torch into the monster to blind it during battle.

(4)
>Give them a torch.

So they're coming with us into the cave, cool.

I also still want to make a couple spears, or spikes to retreat behind out of an entrance.
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>>3025875
>Wait and bait
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>>3025875
>Bait with Tam´s blood
>Put up a bonfire for light
>Bandage Tam´s hand and hide her in the top of a tree near the cave, so she doesn´t gets trampled by the monster in the fight

While we are not really attending the advice the kight gave us to the fullest, it is a decent enough compromise and the bonfire should save us from the need of torches
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>>3025875
>wait and bait
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Venture forth takes it by a slim margin. Roll incoming.


>Tam's blood for bait anons
>SHAME, A KNIGHT SHALL USE NONE FOR BAIT OTHER THAN HE
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The ground is too rough and uneven to even consider fighting ahorse, you'd only end up laming Hannibal. Mikail and Sir Glasdale equip themselves with torches, while you stick to your sword and shield. As the largest and best equipped target, you aim to be the focus of the creature's attention. It is only chivalrous.

"Stay with the horses, girl. And hold this." You speak to Tam, passing her a spare torch. "[If we do not return within the hour, take Hannibal and ride to Lord Bierre's castle, four leagues east of your home. Any beast that can hew two armoured knights is worth his attention."

"...Right." Tam says, stroking Hannibal and procuring a chestnut from Almighty knows where as a treat. The massive brown destrier seems to have taken a liking to her, you'd expect the horses to be agitated with the scent of a monster in such proximity but they're surprisingly calm and preoccupied by free treats. At least the two trained Warhorses are calm, Mikail's nag has wide eyes and flaring nostrils.

You recall what Sir Gillbern told you about hunting this creature. It will be unlikely that you can force it to fight on your terms, or to come to you, this is its territory. You will have to face the creature in its lair, in it's environment, but to your advantage is that it will not expect quarry to act so bold. With any luck, the beast will not be sluggish and unprepared for your assault.

"Into the Pit of Black they rode..." You mutter to your friend, a quote from the Book of Brothers.

"Into the mouth of Hell." Sir Willem Glasdale grins at you, slamming down his visor and drawing his blade. You stand together at the mouth of the cave.

You crick your neck and work your shoulders. Drawing your own arming sword, you clank the hilt against the heater shield twice and take your place. "Up to the Palace Gates they strode..."

Even Mikail knows the words, his voice joining yours as the three of you stride forward. "To face the Dragon Fell."


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>>3027912

[2/2]

x2 Companions with Torch (Fear of Fire -1 Monster Re-Roll, Reduce Darkness severity)

Companion Battle-brothers
(1) Sir Willem Glasdale (+15DC, 20AV, Comrade) Breastplate and Helm, Arming Sword, Torch
(2) Mikail of Andryski (+5DC, 10AV, Comrade) Steel Blade (hatchet), Chainmail and Coif, Torch


>Tracking Roll [DC60] Lower DC, but higher rewards for good results

Critfail = Cain on the Cross, there is more than one...
0 = The Horror is lying in wait, perfectly ready to spring it's trap. Your first clue as to its location is a trickling sliver of drool on your shoulder... [Horror + 10DC first round]
1 = The Horror's lair is twisting and confounding, it has time to attack from a preferred angle. [Horror +5DC first round]
2 = The Horror was not expecting its prey to come to it, it is unprepared when you arrive. [Horror -5DC first round]
3 = Fat and gluttonous on its victims, the Monster is likely sleepy and sluggish. [Horror -10DC first round]
Crit-pass = Vulnerable, asleep. [Horror -20DC first round]

For your first lair and time of day we shall assume that the lighting is only at Gloom levels, which is negated by the presence of torches. It can get darker still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J93fc--VsaI




>Tracking DC 60
>3 rolls of 1d100

Stay frosty...
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>3027917
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>3027917
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Feel free to post spooky music or images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8yaVSLJVLA
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>>3027917
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Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>3027917
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>>3027923
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe1iS47PSYc&list=PL0SMESnWuXfqEqMDzJTzqnF_yRB3sYhEY&index=7&t=0s
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>>3027923
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZUhnEWJ2c&list=PL0SMESnWuXfqEqMDzJTzqnF_yRB3sYhEY&index=41
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>>3027923
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XIlNP-c4Ds

Man. I've been playing so much V:TM Bloodlines lately I am ready for this.
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>>3027923
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyR8kD2Uuw

NSFF - Not Safe For Finns.
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>>3027919
>>3027925
>3 Success

Noice, writing.
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>>3027923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjiIhf42Nsc
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>>3027918
so close
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The tunnels within are treacherous and winding, slick mucus and trails of silky refuse make for tricky footing. But you and your comrades forge ahead, burning web-like barriers and stepping over discarded bones that may have otherwise given away your position. Despite walking for some distances deep into the lair occasional pockets of broken soil above shed some dying light on the pervasive darkness, but the gloom would indeed be pervasive without your torches.

Mikail missteps on a slippery downward tunnel, but your quick reaction props him up with your shield before he falls noisily or drops his torch. Sir Glasdale nods approvingly, and both of your companions are reassured by your steady gait and confident leadership. The walls are confining and maze-like but you do not hesitate in your hunt for a moment, it’s as if you can sense where the creature lies…

It is close.

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[2/2]

Traits Revealed!
>(1) Armoured Carapace (15DC + 30AV), Prodigious Size (10DC + 20AV)
>(2) Senses other than Sight (Effects of Gloom/Darkness/Pitch Black effects amplified), +2 Re-rolls in Gloomy or worse environments.
>(3) Paralyzing Bite [Any unsaved damage causes -5DC (per point of damage) for the next round in addition to normal Wounded/Injury effects]
>(4) Sluggish and Disorientated (-10DC First Round Only). As you have the initiative, the monster cannot use any available re-rolls this round.

At last you track the Horror to its innermost nest, clutches of eggs lay encase. You make a mental note to destroy every instance of these offspring once you have killed their brood mother. She or it, you know not if these things even adhere to gender, is uncurling before you in the centre of the cavern.

Disgust and loathing are your initial reaction, the creature is as long as a caravan and with tenfold as many legs moving it. Clacking mandibles and twitching antennae alert you to the fact that this creature is aware of your presence, turning about sluggishly to face the threat you and your companions pose. The creature is only just barely awake, even in it’s vile insectile absence of a face you can determine that is alarmed and panicking at the sudden intrusion.

”For Cantôn!” Sir Glasdale yells, sword ready. Without hesitation the three of you rush to the attack before the abhorrent menace fully recovers its wits.

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(1) Combat Stance
>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)
>Guarded - Exchange of Blows does not inflict or sustain damage.
>Balanced - AV and Damage remain unchanged.
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

(2)
>"Mikail! Andrei! Glasdale! We stand together!" Remind your allies that they are not alone. [Hearty]

>"Adam Veritas! Cain Vindictas!" Some men seperate prayer from battle, you do not. Almighty guide your blows. [Idealist]

>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>>3027960
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

Make the most of the surprise round.

>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>>3027960
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

>"Adam Veritas! Cain Vindictas!" Some men seperate prayer from battle, you do not. Almighty guide your blows. [Idealist]
WE TILT INTO HELL ITSELF
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>>3027960
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.
Strike while it's weak
>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>>3027960
>Belligerent - Exchange of Blows does not inflict damage; +1 Damage to Foe if any unsaved damaged is inflicted.

>"Adam Veritas! Cain Vindictas!" Some men seperate prayer from battle, you do not. Almighty guide your blows. [Idealist]
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>>3027960
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled
>"Mikail! Andrei! Glasdale! We stand together!" Remind your allies that they are not alone. [Hearty]
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>>3027960
>>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

>>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>>3027960
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>>3027960
>>3027970
I'll switch to
>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]

Just to lock something in.
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>>3027946
Time to slay it
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>>3027960
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>>3027960
> http://romanticallyapocalyptic.com/tv

Pretty much all the music for this is fantastic.
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>>3027960
> Bell looked in confusion and disgust at me, at the set of furniture made of flesh, then back at me. I figured that he couldn't see the Nekomewtrix, so I grew her a body made of flesh to match the avatar in my head.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sworn%20to%20Valour

Thread is archived, we will have that battle roll but then I need to head to bed.
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>>3027960
I wonder what would've happened to Willem if he went to hunt this monster alone had we refused his request for aid?
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>>3027993
Wait this thread right now ?

I have just finish 3 URSEN shields
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>>3027960
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
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>"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" You feel disgust and loathing, not fear. [Haughty]
>Audacious - Halve AV (Rounding up); Each point of unsaved damage to Foe is doubled

Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
Sir Willem Glasdale, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
>Combat = +45DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Sir Glasdale +15DC, Gloom -0DC (Torch)]
>Armour Value = 20AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV] /2 Audacious
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0

VS

The Creeping Horror of Grenmire: Healthy
>Combat = +15DC [Armoured Carapace +15DC, Prodigious Size +10DC, Sluggish and Disorientated -10DC]
>Armour Value = 50AV [Armoured Carapace +30AV, Prodigious Size +20AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 1 (2 Gloom, -1 Torch)

Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty


>Personal Combat 80DC
>3 rolls of 1d100

Kill the Beast!
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>>3018953
After the old Rousseau lion

>>3028000
Let s see three andrei shields the first one for Emile (not Emilie), the others 2 to unknow andrei knights.


URSEN !


>>3024592
Yesterday was strange, I should have stayed a little calmer.
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>>3028000
>>3028009
AWESOME!
Doesn't archive save them?
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Rolled 32 (1d100)

>>3028007
Cain take you!
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Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>3028007
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>>3028009
Then another one
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>>3028013
And another one
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>3028007
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>>3027997
Alone in the dark, you would surely not have left your friend to such a fate?

I believe the choice I first presented was not an option to refuse but rather whether you had received a letter at all.
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>>3028010
It does although nothing spoilered regardless of spoilered format (text or files)
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>>3028010
Idk

>>3024431
Now i go back at home for using this
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>>3028007
How does it breed?
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>>3028017
>Alone in the dark, you would surely not have left your friend to such a fate?
Not of course. I'm just wondering what would've happened if he went there lone on his own. Would he have survived.
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>>3028022
the dice is both a generous and cruel mistress
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Rolled 92, 38, 67 = 197 (3d100)

>>3028011
>>3028012
>>3028016
>3 Success!

Rolling for the Creeping Horror's armour.

>>3028015
This is my favourite. That is some cash money shield right there. Of course, it is only fair that anons indicate which they prefer as the canon shield (which can differ from our official heraldry in a minor manner if the desire).
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>>3028026
I've forgottenhue do we want high or low on enemy AV?
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>>3028029
pretty sure it's under or it would be a fucking pain to convert 20 av to a 80 dc
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>>3028029
Enemy treats AV the same as you, low rolls are successes for them. The Creeping Horror is one of the most well-armoured common monsters.

>>3028022
Very unlikely. Though so far your rolls have been good enough that Emile at least would be doing at least some damage in that first round!

>>3028026
>4 Damage Inflicted! (2 Unsaved, x2 Audacious)
>The Horror is Burns a Re-Roll to avoid being Slain! (0 currently available)
>The Horror is Wounded! (-10DC, Hewn Midsection)

Last post of the night coming up. Did you know combat stances could also be Path choices?

Prodigious size alone does not dissuade the sharpened blade...
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>>3028033
>Spoiler

INTERESTING
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>>3028033
how close is wounded to dead QM
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>>3028040

I don't know where I put the updated one, this image is out of date but accurate with regards to damage.

Healthy
Battered
Injured
Wounded
Slain
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"Come ye creature black as hell and twice as ugly! Taste my blade!" The Horror shies away from the fire on either side held by Mikail and Sir Glasdale, ignoring the true threat. You. Unperturbed by the rearing height of the monster, you charge forward and drive the sword hilt deep into it’s stomach. It notices you then, that much is certain, but you cannot be stopped.

”Again!” You cry, ripping your blade free and hacking away at the wounded midsection.

”Again!” You laugh in the things putrid face, a third slice leaving the body party hanging by a thread.

”Once more!” Your blade strikes true.

The creature screeches in agony, mandibles and legs twitching frantically as the creatures midsection literally comes apart in front of you. The thing scuttles back and rears up, you think to attack, but instead begins to gorge on its own entrails from the detached midsection. The act of self-cannibalism is so disgusting and unexpected that you and your companions halt your attack momentarily, recoiling from the awful sight.

You and your fellows gird your stomachs and ready yourself for another charge. At that moment, a rock slams into the beasts head. The Horror whirls around towards the peasant girl Tam, standing in the cavern entrance with torch in hand and a makeshift shiv in the other.

”…” Tam of Grenmire levels no threats and makes no boasts, but to your reckoning the girl stands before the rearing creature utterly without fear. You wonder whether she would have tried to kill the beast and avenge her family even without the aid of two knights.

The choice between attacking an armed threat of three from one side of the room or slaughtering the frail prey-thing standing between it an escape is an easy one for the monster. It leaps at the girl immediately.

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>Creeping Horror is momentarily distracted (-5DC)
>Creeping Horror focuses its attention on Tam!

>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam

>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain

> Idiot girl. At least her death will give you ample opening to deliver the killing blow. [Audacious Benefits, Cautious Benefits, No Penalties] +1 Path of Thorns
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
I'm going with this. If our attacks fails if we choose Audacious, then she's dead.
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
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>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain

Choppy chop chop.
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>>3028055
>>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
we only have to pass it Armour value once and inflict one more degree of damage it doesn't matter if it's doubled or not and with a 85 dc it should be easy
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
Tempted to go path of thorns but muh chivalry
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>>3028065
Not yet anon not yet
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam

Won't take much to finish it.
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>>3028063
to add to this if we roll 100 like with the last knight at we have the double av on our
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>>3028055

>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam

>>3028026
Good to know. The first one i have posted, it s the more similar to the description but people can just change it.

And i just need to modify the test up.


In theory the archive should preserve the images, anyway we can just go back and see (especially because i want to do too the other shields [the ones of the knights that weren t choose] i have left in the first thread).
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>>3028074
side
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
Stupid girl
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>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain

DC should be 85 next round. Adam or Cain will do the job but I prefer Cain.
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>>3028076
*the text up
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I'm off to bed now anons, vote remains open (and also the vote for preferred shield-bro's creation). I look forward to knightly dreams.
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>>3028078
You really want her to die don't you? I don't think she is stupid. She's just really suicidal.

>>3028084
I'm voting for the shield you like the most Forgotten.
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam

We only have to hit it once, as it has already spent its Combat reroll, so this is clearly the superior tactical option. Besides, as a knight, it is our duty to leap in the defense of the inocents.
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>>3028084
When is the next update?
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>>3028055
>>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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>>3028104
Not for another 20 hours (I should really be asleep by now, frak).
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
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>>3028113
Ok thanks.. Have a good sleep
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Just to avoid accusations of samefagging, this is my vote >>3028079. I posted it when I was away from home.

Best-looking shield is this one >>3028015 imo.
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>>3028055
>>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance]
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URSEN URSEN CRUSH THE DEAD
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>>3028184
I like this.
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>>3028184
Good Job ! Probably more fitting than mine .


(Can i suggest to make the bear head brown but the undead skull remain of a pale white ?)

>>3028113
Thanks Op.
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By the way there is a description somewhere for the shield of sir glasdale ?
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>>3028055
>>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
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>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance]

Let's go for a Path of Cain build. Zealot and furious knights are best knights.
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>>3028055
>>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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>>3028055
>”You shall not touch her!”[/blue] Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam

The horror still has rerolls I want to be careful. Also we should probably be cautious around the wounded animal.
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>I come back from another deep sleep and we didn't die on the first round of combat and we got the McLargeHuge Centipede on the ropes

Good Job guis. I'm proud of you.

>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
DAMN IT CHILD! NOT THIS SHITE AGAIN!
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>The amount of ''1 post by this ID'' IPs
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>>3028420
I had to move the router because the place I'm in is getting renovated. So you can go scratch dirt with the chickens ya bloody wanker.
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>>3028427
>I had to move the router because the place I'm in is getting renovated.
How convenient.
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>>3028434
Whatever man, it's more of a pain in my ass than it is yours.
But look on the bright side, at least I'm responding at all.
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>>3028420
>>3028411

I'm phone posting during lunch. Although I now realize that the horror burned its reroll. So that's great.
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>>3028420
I'm just lurking. Not really much point in discussion when the result depends on the dice regardless.
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>>3028438
>But look on the bright side, at least I'm responding at all.
Yeah, I will give you that. Not responding at all makes it even more suspicious.
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>>3028442
>Not really much point in discussion when the result depends on the dice regardless.
You can convince other anon to change their vote with discussion though. I changed my vote several times by being convinced by points in discussion.
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>>3028055
>>3028063 >>3028057 +1
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>>3028444
>Not responding at all makes it even more suspicious
Implying anyone should bother responding to you
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>>3028467
Well you did bother to respond to me even though I didn't reply to you, so your words and actions don't match at all.

I don't care about whether the response though is to me or not, so nice try. Just have more than one post so there won't be a revote for suspcions of samefagging.
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>>3028186
Thanks anon!
>>3028217
Thanks man, I like yours too, especially the House Rousseau one. Personally I don't like to put too many colors as I think it makes the heraldry too busy, but I will try and add brown when I have some time
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>>3028055
”You shall not touch her!” Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
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I honestly thought going into this lair was going to fuck our day right up. This has been a great encounter. OP, is there any sort of sacred female only warrior class maybe with the church? If so, I think we should see if Tam wants to look into that. Obviously remind her she'd be no Knight of course but it would be an honourable position regardless (if ti exists in this world)
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>>3028055
>Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain
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>>3029290
Canton takes a fairly dim view of the fairer sex subverting typically masculine roles. The exception of Romaine Duchesses and Lady's using female bodyguards are tolerated as it is unthinkable that they would pose a threat to the Lady's virtue that a male boyguard might.

They are not knights, and historically there has only been one knighted openly female warrior since the days of Adam and Cain. And she was a foreigner.
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>>3028217
His shield colour is Red and Yellow Chevron.

House Glasdale has a running Red Dog as a symbol. His is black, a recent addition..
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>>3028055
>”Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention.
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>>3028055
Path of Adam
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>>3029325
Interesting information
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>>3028055
>Not today, beast!” Foolish girl! You leap forward at the Horror recklessly to draw away its attention. [Audacious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Cain

I admit I'm voting on name here. Where are the paths?
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>>3028475
glad to hear that, give it a try an see what it becomes (hopefully something good).
>>3029380
thanks there is probably a good reason
for why he did it so.
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>>3029665
Wait. Does the Heraldry have any actual gameplay effect?>>3029665
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>ITT
>999 posts by anon
>1 post by OP
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Heading home now. Update within the hour.
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Make that two.
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>>3029713
Tomorrow?
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>>3029688
not exactly but there is probably a good reason why our friend as change a bit the symbol of is house.
on a second note different symbols and their positions on medieval shields have different meanings, but i doubt forgotten will put something that heavy to know here. So it s probably just an aesthetic raher than something super important.
frankly i m fine with that, it s still fun to make them.
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>>3029723
Drinking on a weekday?
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>>3029726
There is an English illiterate dude who's a fan, been following for a while, this may be him. My imagination likes to paint him as a good natured eastern European bro.
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>>3029726
>>3029665
It's a black dog because he'sthe black dog of the family for marrying a base born peasant girl
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Sorry, recount. Those 1 post id's WITHOUT any other contribution or linking post have been discounted.

Adam wins And is tactically the better choice desu, as some anons pointed out, though this is a split-second decision by Sir Andrei
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>>3029726
Nah he's cool. Either he's the illiterate bro from BCQ who has really improved or he's a non-english bro.

Either way, his contributions outweigh his grammar by far.
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>>3029688
Purely aesthetic, though it can offer subtle hints sometimes like >>3029732 figured out.
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>>3029741
When do we have to jump in to get counted?
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>”You shall not touch her!” Stepping between her and the beast, you shield the girl from harm. [Cautious Combat Stance] +1 Path of Adam
>Cautious - Double AV (Max 80), Total unsaved damage to Foe is halved (Rounding up)

Sir Emile Andrei, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Mikail of Andryski, Squire to Sir Andrei: Healthy
Sir Willem Glasdale, Young Knight of Romaine: Healthy
Tam of Grenmire, Vengeful Peasant Girl: Healthy
>Combat = +45DC [Healthy +5DC, Strong +5DC, Castle-forged Arming Sword +5DC, Breastplate and Helm +10DC, Mikail +5DC, Sir Glasdale +15DC, Gloom -0DC (Torch), Tam +0DC]
>Armour Value = 80AV [Breastplate and Helm +20AV, Heater Shield +20AV] x2 Cautious
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0

VS

The Creeping Horror of Grenmire: Wounded
>Combat = +10DC [Armoured Carapace +15DC, Prodigious Size +10DC, Hewn Midsection -10DC, Momentarily Distracted -5DC]
>Armour Value = 50AV [Armoured Carapace +30AV, Prodigious Size +20AV]
>Combat Re-Rolls = 0 (+2 Gloom, -1 Torch, -1 Burnt)

Crit-fail = Suffer a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage sustained AND dismounted/disarmed)
0 Success = Suffer a solid blow (2 degrees of damage sustained)
1 Success = Exchange glancing blows (1 degree of damage inflicted and sustained)
2 Success = Inflict a solid blow (2 degrees of damage inflicted)
3 Success = Inflict a mighty blow (3 degrees of damage inflicted)
Crit-pass = Inflict a killing blow (what it says on the tin)

Doubles Pass = +1 damage ignores opponent AV or Dismounted/Disarmed penalty
Doubles Fail = Dismounted and/or Disarmed penalty


>Personal Combat 85DC
>3 rolls of 1d100

You shall not touch her!
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>3029749
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>>3029747
Generally speaking, I'll count even one post id's if they're contributing to the discussion or linking to a previous ID in the thread.

Most of the time I'll accept votes on the face of things, it's only when I see a couple of faceless votes swinging one way without any other indicator that I will treat them with caution.

If it is really bad, and obviously occuring on both sides, I will have to call a flash vote which wastes all our time and can cause legit voters to feel cheated. During the week I will rarely get more than an hour to update, so it's a frak-around for me as well.
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>3029749
>>3029755
Decent
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Rolled 90 (1d100)

>>3029749
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>>3029757
Oh come on. Fucking Captcha.
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>>3029755
Can you start the threads with the pic from >>3028042 for like, the update post.

That would be helpful since this seems kind of a crunchy system.
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Rolled 33, 79 = 112 (2d100)

>>3029751
>>3029756
>>3029757
>2 Success


Rolling for Horror's armour. It only needs to fail one. 0.5 damage rounded up is still 1 last lethal point of damage

>50AV
>>3029760
Sounds fair, I need to dig and find the up-to-date version.
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Well frakking done, lads. Having a smoko and then writing up.
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>>3029769
Yay!

Now I hope we can slap the girl because her stunt was stupid and unnecessary. Vengeance doesn't excuse it.
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>>3029777
2nded she could have gotten herself killed
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>>3029769
But forgotten, a true Knight doesnt indulge in heathen and foreign vices such as those derived from the tobacco plant
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>>3029769
That honestly went way better than I thought it would go. Having three successes on this roll>>3027917 really gave us an advantage.
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>>3029769
Here to stab bawss bawss
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>>3029726

Maybe it's better if I write shorter sentences, and I leave explanations to others.


otherwise you will only think of the horrors I write, rather than the shields.


(I have a new idea : what do you think of some illustrations of the most important episodes that happened during the story ? For example Gabriel that resist in is last moments to the beastmen)


I should have thought of it before.
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>>3029806
>image

>>3029783
It did, acting boldy put the fight in your favour this time. A more cautious approach would have had less risk, but also a more even footing when facing the beast.
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>>3029812
So the more advantages we have, then the more bold our combat stances should be, and the more disadvantages we have, then the less bold our combat stances should be?
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>>3029812
When has boldness ever let us down?

> Kicks Gabriels corpse offscreen
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>>3029806
Yeah nah mate. Keep posting as you've been is fine.

Besides OC art covers a multitude of sins.
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>>3028076
>>3029806

Same guy
>>3029812
Now that i think about more an idea like this so specific : could be paintings made by artists payed by the family of a death knight (like Gabriel, that painting could have a wall of a new small chapel of the Rousseau) or our current knight could pay an artist for this and we get prestige.

Bad idea ?
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>>3029815
Generally speaking, yes. Though remember how rough that crit-fail was on Gabriel in a situation where he held a clear advantage.
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>>3029820
You mean an in-game bonus for stylized fanart? I suppose... Well, it's a long way off for our knight to be funding chapel stations and decorations like that, but I can consider it as his influence grows.

A dedication to Sir Gabriel from his family makes perfect sense on the other hand.

Sorry guys, still writing.
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>>3029820
>>3029827
>>3029827
I would love detailed fanart of the characters. All we know about Emile's physical looks is that he is tall and strong.
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>>3029829
Aubres are generally blond I guess, and Romaine either brown or dark haired like Montbrun but not so pale. Pascae are swarthier, depending on their place on the coast, and Fallavon are known for green eyes and the occasional brown or flame-hair.
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>>3029834
I should point out that any mix is acceptable given that the families of Lord's often marry across Duchies.
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>>3029827
Yes
>>3029829
Uhm that could be a bit too difficult for me. But i can try and we can see the results.

Perhaps it will inspire others, in make something better.
>>3019356
I hope map-bro is still here.

So a political and maybe religious map can see the light, both would be neat.
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>>3029839
Or we can have a good laugh
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>>3029820
I'd rather personally have it done for dead comrades in arms or knights we knew as acquitances who died with honour and/or with honour.
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I’m off to bed after the last part is posted lads, congratulations on your victory and first oath fulfilled!

>1 Damage Inflicted! (no available re-rolls to burn)
>The Creeping Horror of Grenmire is SLAIN!
>You have slain the Creeping Horror of Glenmire and fulfilled your oath to aid a friend! GAINED +1 KNIGHT’S CODE SKILL We shall call a vote for these tomorrow when I have some more time. Each skill offers powerful bonuses, but also a vow that governs your chivalric behaviour. Break the vow, lose the bonus. Though there are times when it may be worth it.
>You have aided your friend [Sir Willem Glasdale] in a time of need. He is now LOYAL, he considers his interests and yours to be one and the same. He will actively warn you of threats or opportunities to you that he is made aware of. He does not actively wish to leave his wife and join you on errantry as a permanent companion, though his lust for adventure has stirred enough that anons may attempt to convince him if that is something they wish (and keeping in mind the potential complications at court)

”You shall not touch her!” You are the Shield of the Realm, and fulfil that role quite literally in that moment as you intervene and catch the full brunt of the monster’s charge on your shield. Your feet slide back on the cave floor, digging in furrows in the silk mucus. But you do not slip. You do not falter. As the wounded, exhausted creature flails uselessly against your steel wall, you begin to push back. Muscles strain and veins bulge underneath your plate as you take on the wounded creature weight step by step and, in a staggering accomplishment of human strength, flip the fell beast over entirely.

Sir Glasdale and Mikail do not allow your feat of arms to go to waste, together you attack the spent creature viciously with blade, torch and hatchet. The Creeping Horror dies messily, carved open and strewn across the cavern floor. In moments the three of you are knee deep in ichor and entrails breathing heavily and staring at each other with bright eyes and exultant expressions.

Victorious, even unto the Pit itself. These are the stories bards sing of.

[1/3]
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>>3029860
”You foolish girl!” At last certain that the foul beast is dead, you whirl around at the peasant waif that put herself (and to some extent all of you) in jeopardy despite your direction she stay with the horses. ”What were you thinking? This fiend wouldn’t have been slowed down for a moment by an unarmoured child armed with a piece of cutlery! You would have died, horribly, and for nothing.”

”…” Tam stares at you with her cold grey eyes. She nods, shaking slightly. Doubtless unused the sudden shock of adrenaline in a fight like this. ”…‘spose yer right. Weren’t the smartest thing I ever done.”

You’re about to continue to berate her when Mikail interjects and angrily jabs at her with a ichor-covered finger. ”It’s “spose yer right, M’lord or Sir Knight”. My sire Sir Andrei saved your bloody life. Show some respect!”

The girl looks at your squire stubbornly a moment, then relents. ”Aye, he did. And he done for the beastie which done for me folks, so there’s that too. Thanks, Sir Knight.”

You cannot in good conscience continue your reprimand after such gratitude, so you nod sharply. ”What’s done is done. And I only did my duty. Thank Sir Glasdale for sending the call for aid in the first place. He’d have been down here to face the thing and defend your people alone, if need be. Is that not right, Willem?”

”True, though I cannot lie and say I would have relished the experience.” Sir Glasdale wipes a sticky hand on the rock wall, foul smelling ichor leaving a trail. ”Might I borrow your squire once we are away?"

You laugh heartily and smack the crestfallen Mikail on the back, who has only just comprehended the scale of work that needs to be done on your armour and clothes. You don’t envy the lad.

”And then… a bath. I’ll send a runner to have Jinni prepare some hot water.” Sir Glasdale grins, inspecting the silk catchments and eggs encased within. Unfertilized apparently, thank Almighty, and you’re certain there’s a merchant looking for such repugnant collections or an alchemist for their bizarre experiments. ”I think it only fair that you take the spoils, my friend. As for the beast’s head, if we can call it that, I imagine it would look quite fetching above the hearth at home. Unless you desire it?”

>1 WEALTH

He seems hesitant, clearly he would allow you the trophy as well were you not afield. Or maybe he is wondering what his commoner wife will be thinking about such a ghastly ornament. Even in death the Creeping Horror looks absolutely repulsive.

”Hah! Not exactly something you carry around on errantry! My thanks, friend.” Maybe You nod your head agreement and blow out a heavy breath, Jinni must be his wife’s name, the stench of the creature’s death hitting you in full as the thrill of the fight ebbs. ”A bath does sound good…”

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”Oh thank ye, sire! Thank ye!” The peasants are as fawning in your victory as they were terrified of the beast when it yet lived. ”We shan’t never forget what you done here today!”

The whole village is gathered here apparently, and more coming from afield and remote farmhouses to gawk in amazement at your ichor-coated bodies and the despicable head of the Creeping Horror of Grenmire.

”Please, please, be at peace gentlefolk. We acted only as any true knights would.” Sir Glasdale holds up a gauntlet, bidding them to silence. ”And it would not have been possible without the might and courage of brave Sir Emile Andrei here, it is him that put a final end to the creature.”

You shift in your saddle, waving off their obsequious flattering as one of your esteemed station must do. You magnanimously play down your part in the hunt, asserting that Mikail and Sir Glasdale fought with you as a team and should be given their due. Of course, that only seems to cement in the peasant’s eyes that every outlandish claim of feat of arms Sir Glasdale has made of you is the Almighty truth and you were the hero of the hour here. It is a laud that you can live with.

As they go on, a villager leads a nag through the crowd by the reins towards you. You recall he said he was kin of those that perished in the farmhouse. It is a workhorse unfit for battle, but will do well as a saddlehorse. ”For you, sire. As thanks from the village for your great deeds.”

”Nell ain’t yours to give, Ben. That were Da’s horse.” The man recoils at the sight of Tam stepping forward.

”Tam, Godsgrace you’re alive!” The villager proclaims in shock, his face going red.

”Aye.” The girl slips up on the saddle with some effort, handing out her hand and demanding the reins from him. ”No thanks to you or yours.”

[3/4]
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[4/4]

”Now see here you lil’ shit, I’m your Unc-“

”You forget yourself, man.” Your tone shuts up Tam’s supposed uncle quickly. You note that he does not deny the horse’s deceased owner. And the way he speaks to one who stood valiantly, if stupidly, against the Foe offends you. Even if they’re a peasant child.

”Da’ said we had nought to fear living so close to the village. Said you lot’d come and scare the beast off if it came for us. Din’t go that way though, did it? You lot are no kin of mine.” Tam nods in thanks to you, pulling her horse up in line beside your squire Mikail. ”You gonna kill some more monsters, Sir Knight?”

”Likely enough.” You reply, bemused.

”Gravy. Nell is yours then. But I’m coming with you.”

Were the girl not so grim-faced and serious, you would have laughed.

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>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam

>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam

>”I have no time for you, girl. But I will take the horse, as rightful dues for my aid.” You are entitled to some reward from the village, and you are not about to babysit some peasant waif. +1 Path of Thorns
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>>3029870
Middle option should read +1 Path of Cain
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>>3029870
>>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
I'm going to regret this when she gets eaten by a dragon
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>>3029870
>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>>3029870
>>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam

I can only imagine what people will think, us traipsing around with a common girl who goes into battle...
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>>3029870
>>”I have no time for you, girl. But I will take the horse, as rightful dues for my aid.” You are entitled to some reward from the village, and you are not about to babysit some peasant waif. +1 Path of Thorns

[REMBERS KID & JENNY]
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>>3029876
Yes, though Canton laws do allow common women and girls to disguise themselves as the male gender to avoid such attention on the roads.

IT'S NOT MY FETISH I SWEAR! IT IS A REAL HISTORICAL LAW[/spoiler]
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>>3029870
>”I have no time for you, girl. But I will take the horse, as rightful dues for my aid.” You are entitled to some reward from the village, and you are not about to babysit some peasant waif. +1 Path of Thorns

She is of the fairer sex and will likely pull more stupid shit in the future

>>3029877
>Kidd

Pls no
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>>3029864
>You’re about to continue to berate her when Mikail interjects and angrily jabs at her with a ichor-covered finger. ”It’s “spose yer right, M’lord or Sir Knight”. My sire Sir Andrei saved your bloody life. Show some respect!”
Based Mikail not letting people insult his sire in front of him. Couldn't have asked for a better squire.


>>3029870
>>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
Absolute zero reason to take her with us. She can't fight, nor does she know a single thing about fighting. She has no useful talents that will aid us. She will be a complete burden that we will have to babysit. Emile is also too proud to take a disrespectful peasant like her with him.
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>>3029870
>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
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>>3029883
And it'll make us look bad, I mean who are we, Sir Glasdale?
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>>3029870
>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Cain

I see great potential for this girl.
She’d be wasted as a house hand.
Besides I’m not sure she would trust anyone again aside from us.
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>>3029890
to be fair Glasdale slew it with us he'd be a good alternative to taking her with us.

I'm calling it if we take her with us she will die and I will laud it over Anons who wanted to bring her with us
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She's a little girl anons, a farm girl at that, just let her be.
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>>3029889
>And it'll make us look bad, I mean who are we, Sir Glasdale?
It definitely would make way more sense to take Sir Glasdale than to take her. He can actually fight and won't be a burden in battle.
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>>3029878
Sure it is not. Don´t worry, your secret is safe with us.

>>3029870
Honestly, I would be fine with anything but Path of Thorns. It is too dickass to me.

Meh, fuck it. Let´s give Mikhail somebody to help him cleanse the ichor from our armor. We are a fucking knight, time to build up a retinue.
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>>3029900
Nah, on second though, better not

>Path of Adam
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>>3029870
>>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl.+1 Path of Cain
if she tries to get us to teach her how to fight we should put it behind paywall eg if she wants us to teach her basic's of fighting she must first learn the basic's of writing and dressing wounds then she will at least have some skills that she could use if she goes full zealot and joins the church and honestly she will nag Glasdale for fighting lessons and he will bend easier then us and then she will just venture off on her own and get herself killed.
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
She is not skilled nor is she obedient or very bright (even for a peasant)

Just leave her here.
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>>3029870
>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Cain

And with this we could have both Kid (Tam) and Jenny (Mikail) with us! How mant threads until we kill them off? Bets are officially open!

Seriously though, she has potential. We just need to focus her hatred in the right way.
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>>3029870
okay forgotten I'm tired and didn't read the votes properly so I'm changing >>3029877 to


>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam

I am not having this bloody Girl ending up like Kid and I feel like having a Girl squire don't pretend this isn't what the Cain option is as a squire as the fairer sex in a chivilaric sense needs to be protected and kept off the battlefield.
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>>3029908
She's disobedient, lacks any skill or training in combat, literacy or courtly matters and if people don't think we're carting her around just to have someone to fuck they're still going to look down on us for having a girl following us into combat. And like you said, she's going to be dead before long. She's a drawback in every way
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>>3029870
>>3029873
Changing to
>”I have no time for you, girl. But I will take the horse, as rightful dues for my aid.” You are entitled to some reward from the village, and you are not about to babysit some peasant waif.
Kid's death still traumatizes me, we could've brought him back
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>>3029893
>not having Mikail being a big bro teaching her stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsIr61Tbt0c&feature=youtu.be&t=4
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>>3029914
Mikail has two (maybe three) of those things and yet we carry him around. We can work with her, I'm sure.

Besides, I want her for interactions and character development more than hard math. And if she dies, that's fine too - the drama over Kid's death was great and one of the highlights of BCQ.
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>>3029918
>wanting a child AND a woman on the battlefield
>wanting a girl to know how to fight
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>>3029919
Mikail is rough around the edges but we've been training him, he obeys, he's had combat experience if not a ton of it and he's male which is a bit of a big deal as well. I just don't see it as in character for us to suddenly be cool with taking a young farm girl on errant. We only took Mikail originally because our father asked us to as he was the son of our fathers Sergent of Arms IIRC.

I feel like we can surely pick up better companions down the road, ones that are both useful and interesting
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>>3029921
It doesn’t have to be a frontline role
She can tend to the horses, carry messages across camp or plonk away at beasties with a crossbow.
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>>3029922
> I just don't see it as in character for us to suddenly be cool with taking a young farm girl on errant
It's offered by the QM himself, thus it's an in-character choice.

You don't care about her or see any use to her? That's perfectly fine, but I don't see why I should change my opinion because of yours.
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>>3029925
Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree on it then
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>>3029924
I still don't want her there, she'll get ideas in her head about fighting and killing and then she'll get herself killed, besides what if we're ambushed she's just defenseless girl we need to protect I wont have it if I can help it.
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>>3029927
She’s already got ideas of fighting in her head, sending her to live with the guy who is going to mount the the head of the creature who killed her family in his house where she will probably see it constantly is probably not going to help.
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>>3029932
yeah and she can still be persuaded off violence by living with a relativley well adjusted foster family instead being encouraged by us.
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>>3029870

Now Tam seems a bit too rebellious and savage for a normal village child .


She is probably familiar to some degree with forests and for now it could be probably a decent scout (and if in forests or regions with trees, she can avoid some dangers by going up)


I feel like she could try anyway to go with us.


So if we go with Adam lets stay a bit with Sir Glasdale and have a little talk to her without making a scene in front of the entire village (she has just lost is family, so talking in private would be better//// we could return here some times for more monster slaying with our friend and a chat with her).
If we go with Cain let s make some simple rules (5 or 10) that are necessary for her to survive.
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>>3029870
>>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>>3029870
>>3029934
>>3029902
+2

>>3029893
>I'm calling it if we take her with us she will die and I will laud it over Anons who wanted to bring her with us
All the more reason to work towards surviving combat.
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>>3029951
Dice are fickle.
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>>3029934
Do you have a vote for either option, or are you okay with either?

>>3029953
All the more reason to make it less fickle.
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We should get a War Lance next time we hit the market. A mounted knight without a lance is like a bull without horns.
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>>3029955
I'm thinking about it
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam

No more dead Kids, the quest.
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
The girls is useless to us but I would feel bad taking her horse after she just lost everything.
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
If you didn't try to attack the Creeping Horror then MAYBE I would have been cool with you coming along. But no, that little stunt proved that you have no real discipline at all. The fire yes, but no discipline.

Also QM, can we ask our old friend to not bend so easily towards Tam's requests for learning how to fight? Maybe have him give some other challenges that she has to overcome while she lrns2fight? Because there's no way in the pit that we're taking this child on the road with us while we're just questing.
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>>3029870
>>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam

No girl, the Almighty possibly has some plans for you, but you acompany us in none of them. And the mere idea of a knight travelling with a little girl that think herserlf as some kind of novice monster slayer is highly ridiculous.

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>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Cain

I remember Kid I remember Jenny. As sad as their deaths were I'm ready to feel again.

Besides that after this we'll likely lose sir Glasdale as a companion and right now having extra hands would be helpful.
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>>3029870
>”I have no time for you, girl. But I will take the horse, as rightful dues for my aid.” You are entitled to some reward from the village, and you are not about to babysit some peasant waif. +1 Path of Thorns
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>>3029870
>>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
We don't have any reason to bring a kid like her with us, and as other anons have pointed out, she would just be a burden for a variety of reasons.
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>>3029870
>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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This is a pretty cool quest by the way. Can't wait to see more.
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To add on to what's been said, if she wants to learn how to fight she'd probably be better off learning with Sir Gladsdale anyway. Plus he's way more tolerant of commoners than we are.
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>”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?” You cannot in good conscience allow a child to accompany you. She will be safer working for ‘Lady’ Glasdale. +1 Point of Adam
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>>3030382
That vampire armor is pretty fucking cool
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Please stop showing the path of adam/cain gains for options Forgotten. Just tell us once the vote is decided.
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>>3030498
That might make more sense. It didn't seem to be a problem in BCQ but perhaps I will keep it hidden until the vote is decided in the future.
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>>3030524
BCQ was a lot more civil, at least at the start. I don't remember a lot of shitposting besides the arguments about white bitch's fate and ghost/blueboy for our form post damnation.
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>>3030546
I guess the MC never actually died in BCQ. Perhaps that happening her eyes is what got anons worried enough to get riled up.
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>>3030498
>>3030562
Yeah, I think it's a good time to drop the gains for now, mostly because we now have a good idea of a general idea of what each choice might have in store for us.
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>>3029870
>>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
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>>3029743
>illiterate bro
Illiterate doesn't do it justice, I'm convinced that dude had had a stroke at some point. If >>3029723 is the same person that's a medical miracle

>>3029870
>”You desire vengeance. I understand, and who am I to deny it? But you -will- obey my commands in the future.” You could use a page for menial duties while you train your squire. Besides, there is a steel inside this girl. +1 Path of Adam
She won't be happy doing housework, just look at her
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>>3030546
People were traumatized by the Siege and by not getting any Waifu.
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>>3031094
Why should we care what she cares about shes better off not being on the battlefield where she could be killed or worse.
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>all these anons traumatized by BC that that can’t love again.
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>>3031369
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>>3031369
love is for Fair maidens who know their place at court not the battlefield.
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>>3031393
So will Albani War Machines be present in this quest? Highlanders?

Well at least you have the consolation of those being due to rolls and not doing it to yourself.

> remembers that we were allowed a reroll on the War Machines

Never mind.
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>>3031369
Nah. More like "Plot armor? What's that?" Combined with "Hey turns out Battles are dangerous and kids aren't good at them."
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>>3030498
Not that it would help much, the Path options are pretty telling as it is.

>>3030562
I don't think it's that, Forgotten. Rather, it's a combination of fame and new setting.

BCQ means you had a good number of players from the start plus newbies, which naturally increases the number of arguments.

Plus, BCQ was clear from the start - you aren't a hero, you're working for the bad dude, bad shit will happen. Here, the chance to do good is much easier and feeds the eternal White Knight vs Edgelord diatribe.
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Interesting, putting Tam in the care of Lady Glasdale has one (and yes I counted twice to be sure).

I thought a Romaine knight would be the most likely to accept a girl as a page companion, but it seems concern for her welfare wins out.

>>3031694
I suppose. I guess Prince also had the overwhelming drive to do what was for the good of the company regardless of the morality of it, at least he seemed more that way after his Officer promotion.
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>>3031696
The main difference between Prince and Emile is that Prince is a mercenary, while Emile is a knight (an idealist knight to boot). Prince's main objective and concern was the company and nothing else, so he had no qualms about committing clearly amoral and immoral acts. Emile on the other hand is an idealist who must maintain his vows, and act honorably and chivalrous. They are both different characters and you must roleplay them differently.
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>>3031696
I think that means we're the odd one out either by dint of our family being Traditional Cantons in Romaine or we just have a traditional view of women in Canton.

or we just dont want to see a child girl die.
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>>3031696
The Knight looks at you with a troubled, uncomfortable glare, like that of a man who must tell an orphaned village girl that her dreams of slaying monsters in the name of vengeance will never come true

Fear won out in the end it seems.
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>>3031716
Oh it is certainly unusual and might raise eyebrows even in Romaine to encourage such unfeminine behaviour, but less so than actual marrying peasantry.

Emile's individual motivation behind his decision may be either of your points, or a muddled mix of both even.

>>3031718
HAH, love it.
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+1 Path of Adam
UNLOCKED ‘Guardian’ +5AV
In the future Path options will be hidden. The last thing I want here is anons voting on moral choices for mechanic bonuses.

The villager’s fawning is somewhat muted after Tam’s rebuke, the reminder of their cowardliness shaming them into a relieved murmuring rather than jubilation. Eventually you leave, taking Sir Willem Glasdale up on his offer of a bath and dinner.

You graciously allow Tam to join you on the way there, saying you will discuss matters, you have not the heart to turn her down so harshly in front of everyone. You’d not have minded a saddlehorse, even if just to give Hannibal some respite as you ride, but 'Nell' is the last possession this girl has aside from her ragged clothes and makeshift weapon. You pull up aside Sir Glasdale as you ride along the path to his stead, out of earshot of the girl. ”Sir Glasdale, surely your… *sigh* …wife could use an extra hand around your property?”

”You mean Tam? Of course, friend. Jinni would welcome the help, not to mention the company when I am afield on my Lord’s business.” Sir Glasdale nods, choosing not to take umbrage at your reluctance to acknowledge his lowborn spouse. ”Besides, it is the least I can do. I did not know her father well, but by all accounts he was a good man.”

”Indeed. Go on a while, you two.” You tell him and Mikail, puling Hannibal’s reigns over so that he walks aside Nell, Tam’s horse. Beside the hairy farmhorse, Hannibal looks like a regal prince astride a peasant pauper. ”Tam and I must speak alone.”

You bid the girl dismount, as do you. tying both him and Nell to a nearby tree. The fields are green and the birds are singing, in stark contrast to the muddied carnage you came across elsewhere this morning.

”…You ent’ taking me is you.” The girl says suddenly, her shoulders slumped and voice sullen. ”I’d clean yer armour n’ wash the horses, yours is nice, n’ I’d fill the waterskins n’… I only wanna kill those things… it ain’t fair…”

…Tam.” You begin.

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>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]

>”You’ve suffered greatly. The wound is fresh. Killing more monsters is not the salve.” She needs time to heal, to adjust, to come to terms with her loss. Perhaps she will find some measure of peace with Lady Glasdale. [Hearty]

>”The whole world must seem your enemy right now. I want you to know that what happened to your family need not define you.” She is young, and has her whole life ahead of her. Her pain can be turned away from violence to a different passion, more suitable to her station and breeding. [Idealist]
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I'm tired as frak, guys. This is the only update for tonight, and then another one tomorrow. We will go over the selection of your unlocked Knight's Code Skill and potential next quest/oath on the Friday session. That seems like a good point to leave off the thread as we creep towards 1000 posts.
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>>3031733
>You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]
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>>3031733
>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]
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>>3031733
>>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]

It's not like she can't (I guess...) but she needs training in both her body AND her mind- training that we can't really offer right now.
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>>3031733
>>”You’ve suffered greatly. The wound is fresh. Killing more monsters is not the salve.” She needs time to heal, to adjust, to come to terms with her loss. Perhaps she will find some measure of peace with Lady Glasdale. [Hearty]

If she still has notions of this I say we beat it out of her
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>>3031733
>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]
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>>3031733
Haughty sounds like a cop out that will lead to an option to train her again and thats bullshit.
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>>3031733
Could we try make a mix between Haughty and Hearty?

>>”you have to first deal with the monsters within yourself before trying to take on the Foe girl. You have all the life efore you. Don´t ruin it in a reckless search for vengeance .” She needs time to heal, to adjust, to come to terms with her loss. Perhaps she will find some measure of peace with Lady Glasdale. [Hearty]

I just feel this crusader attitude she has adopted it is just an elaborate suicide by cop. If we let her go with us, we would be robbing her of the chldhood she deserves. If, after becoming an adult, she still decides to battle the Foe, I am sure Sir Glasdale will lend her his expertise.
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>>3031750
We recrited Kid to save his life for a while at least . Let´s not create unnecesary child soldiers.
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>>3031748
>>3031750
>>3031751
I know it hurt when kid and Jenny died but remember the fun times and shenanigans that we’re had with them.

We can have more of those fun times
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>>3031748
That option is not dissuading (and perhaps even encouraging) her from a life by the sword. But it would not be under your tutelage.

The Canton view of highborn female roles is very restrictive, not so much for lowborns beneath the nobles concern. Female guards in Romaine are not unheard of.

Similarily foreign cultures with female warriors are accepted, due to their lack of relevance to proper Canton society.
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>>3031733
>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]

Honestly, I doubt Tam will settle for a peaceful life. At least this points her potential in a good direction.
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>>3031733
>>”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” She cannot be a knight, obviously, but Romaine has known female warriors of note. She has potential, she needs only training to forge the fire that burns within her. [Haughty]
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>>3031756
as long as its not a litreal child or battle woman Im okay with this.
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>>3031756
Yeah, but we are not looking for shenanigans,we are lookin for the best future we can give to a child that has just lost her parents and fostering self-destructive attitudes is no a good way to treat that.

Better give her a childhood she can enjoy without encouraging her to fulfil this vendetta. She will decide whether to peacefully enjoy her life or battle the Foe as an adult. Let´s not make the choice for her.
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>>3031718
Old meme is old.
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>>3031776
>we are not looking for shenanigans
(You) are not looking for shenanigans. I can respect that but don’t assume you know what every anon wants
>let’s not make the choice for her
We literally are making the choice for here one way or the other
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>>3031733
>”The whole world must seem your enemy right now. I want you to know that what happened to your family need not define you.” She is young, and has her whole life ahead of her. Her pain can be turned away from violence to a different passion, more suitable to her station and breeding. [Idealist]

Sometimes the best revenge is living well, becoming happy and building something. Maybe if she had said she wants to save other little girls . . . But that's too much of a burden to put on a child.
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>>3031780
Okay, I am not looking for shenanigans if that means throwing the girl into a meatgrinder.

>we literally are making the choice for her
>letting her live her childhood in peace before taking a decision is taking the choice for her

lad
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>>3031785
If she had here way she would be traveling alongside us slaying monsters.
That’s the choice she wants to make and would make.
Our decision either denys her decision or affirms it. In that regard we are making the decision for her.
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>>3031787
Ah I thought you mean right now. Yeah, you got me there.

I just think that, after taking that decision as a responsible adult, that is, no taking an unstable child with us in a journey that will most likely kill her, we offer her time to think about her options nd decide whether she would like to spend her life in peace or fight against the Foe as a warrior.
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>>3031785
> throwing the girl into a meatgrinder
How is this throwing the girl in a meatgrinder?

First off, she's going to stay with Gladsdale. If encouraged to take up arms I'm pretty sure the man is considerate enough to not give her a blade and kick her out but rather train her himself/make her join the guards, and only at an appropriate age. She won't be sent to the slaughter, that's for sure.

Second, if she had no aptitude for combat I'd agree with you. Except the text has told us she has the right fire for it, although one that must be disciplined. Training under Gladsdale or the guards will ensure that.

Third, the option itself tells her she's not ready. Telling her to go forth and slay beasts would be self-destructive, telling her to not be rash about an eventual military career isn't.
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>>3031750
>Officer Claw here
>Yep, looks like a 428 in progress.
>Excuse me, SIR, you have a licence for that plate armour?
>Oh SHIT, he's gotta lance! Take him down!

Really tragic when that happens in the Pascae Hood. Smitin' ain't easy
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>>3031806
I just don´t think it is heathy to encourage a child towards pursuing a career where she would most likely die. Better to just ler her enjoy her childhood and see if she has though on her own about following through when she is a responsible adult. The Foe is going nowhere.
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>Persuasion Check [Unreasonable / Higher Social Standing] Reasonableness depends on the audience
>DC 60
>Vengeance Delayed, Not Forgotten +10DC
>DC 70


0 = The girl resents you, and may abandon Glasdale's care. Her fate is unknown.
1 = Tam is unhappy and impatient, but in no position to do much about it. She stays in Glasdale's care, but remains a hurt and troubled guest.
2 = Tam takes your advice to heart, training night and day in between chores (or turning the chores themselves into training). The Glasdales worry for her, though she serves them dutifully.
3 = One day, years from now, she will be ready. She excels in Glasdale's care.


3 rolls of 1d100.

You are not ready.
I feel that this might easily be considered a Cain choice compared to encouraging her to heal and move on, though patience was never one of Brother Cain's virtues. I will keep this in mind when awarding Path points in the future.
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Rolled 64 (1d100)

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>>3031838
> I just don´t think it is heathy to encourage a child towards pursuing a career where she would most likely die.
Then children shouldn't aspire to become cops or firefighters.

Cheek aside, you're looking at this from a modern stance - this is a medieval world, chances are that you're going to die young to illness, brigands, terrible life conditions or monsters. In such a context, pursuing a military career isn't seen as disgraceful or unhealthy - plenty of noblemen and men-at-arms' sons begin their training as young as Tam (if not younger). Gender isn't even a problem here in Romaine.

>Better to just ler her enjoy her childhood and see if she has though on her own about following through when she is a responsible adult.
Given the low expectations of life, childhood was much, much shorter than we intend it - Tam should almost be considered adult by those standards, since she was described as 'adolescent'.

Besides, she saw her family eaten and her baby brother crushed against a tree just to spite her. Any semblance of normal childhood crumbled at that moment.
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>>3031850
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Come on next roll, a littleness girls faith in chivalrymurderknight is at stake here!
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>>3031863
Nice save, Anon.

And Forgotten, a question - within the Church's clergy only the Queen is allowed to marry or there are no such limitations?
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>>3031853
>>3031859
>>3031863

Oops >>3031866

But yeah, she lifts.
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>>3031868
Only the Queen. Most nuns do not expect to end up a royal bride, though there are a few enterprising noble ladies in history that have entered convents with specifically such a goal in mind.

The process of selection is complex and may be covered at a later date, though I think involves the choices of both the Mother Queen (of the previous king) and the suitor King himself. It is a systemic theoretically sound but often subject to scandal and manipulation. No one becomes a Reginae candidate without both sex appeal and political awareness, which is not easily fostered in a convent.
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>>3031880
>though there are a few enterprising noble ladies in history that have entered convents with specifically such a goal in mind.

Queensmen bullshit the Nuns of Canton are rife with such women.
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>>3031873
Are there gonna be elves in this quest just like BCQ?
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>>3031880
>No one becomes a Reginae candidate without both sex appeal
Why? I get political awareness, but sex appeal as a requirement seems weird.
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>>3031897
There are litreally Fae in this read the pastebins
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>>3031906
Oh, then sorry. I thought the Fae were a different species from elves.
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>>3031909
they are not really Fae are essentially the proto myth for what developed into Elves.

you can pick at if you want but Fae are basically Elves.
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>>3031880
Hehe.

Rhymes with Reginae.
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>>3031901
Becauase a young King rarely older than his twenties and often younger has some say in the selection of a future wife that will sire his royal children.

Abbesses select the pool of candidates, the new King picks from that pool.
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>>3032434
Ah, so a lot of times the King is a horndog, gotcha.
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>>3032480
Well horndog is a bit unfair.
If you had the choice of picking a decent looking woman, or some ugly hag to fuck for the rest of your life, you'd pick the prettier one.
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>>3032520
As a king? Nah. I would pick the one that is most politically convenient. And besides, the King isn't forced to pick between '' picking a decent looking woman, or some ugly hag ''. He has an entire pool of choices arranged for him.
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>>3032542
CK2 told me you pick the one with the Genius trait in hopes your heir also inherits it.
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>>3032556
CK2 told me to despise big blobs.
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>>3032542
> thinking looks don't relate to politics

Haha okay nerd.

Besides, you're picking from the cream of the crop. They're all good political matches so there's no reason to pick an uggo that can't take care of their physique or is emotionally retarded and would function mostly as an ornament.

Actually, you'll note the requirement was "sexuality" not "beauty", and some honestly not so hot women can be sexy as hell while bare ass naked women with perfect physique can be as boring as a piece of furniture.

Anyways these women are competing for first place, not a Mrs. Degree in college.
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>>3033403
>They're all good political matches so there's no reason to pick an uggo that can't take care of their physique or is emotionally retarded and would function mostly as an ornament.

That's nothing more than a conjured up scenario to help your argument. The most ''ugly'' candidates would be at worst below average. Any ''emotionally retarded'' women would never be considered a candidate unless they have a very important inheritance.
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>>3033419
You've never had much choice with women, huh.
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>>3033430
What choice I had with women doesn't matter,
we are talking about how the monarch's consort in this quest is chosen.


No truly ''ugly'' or ''emotionally retarded'' woman would be considered as a candidate unless she has an important inheritance, which would override her physical looks and mental abilities unimportant.
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>>3033436
> we are talking about how the monarch's consort in this quest is chosen.

And part of that has been established to be sex appeal.

Lol.

Everyone waifu'd White Bitch in BCQ and you still don't see how it could be a factor lol. Like Kiranova or Saint weren't options.
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>>3033438
>And part of that has been established to be sex appeal.
Yeah, and that's what I find so weird. Most of the monarchs irl didn't give a damn about their consort's ''sex appeal''. They were more concerned about how much lands and men she would bring. If a monarch wasn't sexually interested in his consort, then he would simply get himself a mistress rather than waste a good political marriage.
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>>3033446
> Most of the monarchs irl didn't give a damn about their consort's ''sex appeal''.

Uh. No. They historically did.

What, you want to have ugly kids?
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>>3033450
No, they didn't. Most royal marriages were political affairs where things like ''sex appeal'' didn't matter.

What I want doesn't matter.
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>>3033456
Yes, they did. I feel like you are glossing over the fact that for the most of History Kings and such were actually still in charge.

> Laughs in King Henry the 8th.
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>>3033473
No, the didn't. I'm not glossing over anything.

>Laughs in King Henry the 8th.
Outlier that doesn't mean anything to the majority. so nice try.
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>>3033476
> Muh outliers

Your romanticized fictional history doesn't count no matter how autistic you are about it. It's up there with "Rich people are generally evil / secretly unhappy / actually incompetent".

In general, rich people are better in every way. Healthier, happier, and more productive.

Situations like what you describe, where a King was forced to marry someone who was sexually unappealing, were the outliers.

Real life isn't like CK2 video games. There's so much more to consider about a partner, especially given hereditary monarchies and their concern with valid heirs, than just "how much money" some potential brides are worth.

After a certain point, a percentage or two of wealth difference doesn't outweigh having a terrible match raising an heir.
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>>3033482
Not relating to the quest, but wasn´t a betrothall when the King is still a prince more common in the Middle Ages that a King searching for a espouse after his coronation?

>rich people are healthier, happier and more productive

Research shows that after a certain point o finantial security, happiness depends more on self realization and emotional wellbeing than wealth itself. I gotta give you the health argument though, they can stave off Death by dropping cash like candy. I haven´t really heard about the "rich are more productive" thing you are spouting, beyond how some idiots like to brag about sleeping only for four hours or so, disregarding the possible long term mental health effects.
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>>3033482
>Your romanticized fictional history doesn't count no matter how autistic you are about it
There is nothing romanticized or fictional about historical facts on medieval history.

The majority of royal marriages were nothing more than pure political affairs where your ''sex appeal'' requirement didn't exist. It's an objective fact no matter how much you deny it.

>. It's up there with "Rich people are generally evil / secretly unhappy / actually incompetent".
False equivalence


>In general, rich people are better in every way. Healthier, happier, and more productive.
Irelevant posturing.

>Situations like what you describe, where a King was forced to marry someone who was sexually unappealing, were the outliers.
No, they weren't. The King most of the time was married off before he even became king, and he couldn't annual it without papal approval. Even when the King could chose, he chose the marriage that is most politically useful without any of the ''sex appeal'' hogwash you mention, and kept mistresses for his own pleasure.


>Real life isn't like CK2 video games. There's so much more to consider about a partner, especially given hereditary monarchies and their concern with valid heirs, than just "how much money" some potential brides are worth.
Real life isn't also some hormonal teenagers wet dream where he could project his sexual fantasies on history. CK2 is also a far better representation medieval history than your sexual fantasy.


>After a certain point, a percentage or two of wealth difference doesn't outweigh having a terrible match raising an heir.
Most royal heirs weren't raised by their royal parents. They had caretakers to do that for them since they were busy.
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>Arguing over politics vs sex appeal as to why queens are chosen
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>>3033488
> Research shows that after a certain point o finantial security, happiness depends more on self realization and emotional wellbeing than wealth itself.

Money doesn't cause that to happen, but it gives you the opportunity to pursue it.

Same with Rich people being more productive. They can afford to have their lives organized, and to pay people to handle menial tasks.

Want to take 3 months off to focus on playing guitar, without losing your job?

Want to put a couple hundred thousand into a new startup because you feel it's an ethical business?

Or even just as a hobby?

As for "childhood betrothals" it's not as common for the actual rulers, since times and fortunes change and a deal made with a prominent power now could result in being tied to a dead horse a decade later. Makes for good reading though.

>>3033494
It's always been both. Sex appeal has toppled entire nations, provided it's appealing to the dude with armies.
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>>3033502
The thing is, after achieving somw for of finantial security, more wealth doesn´t factor in more happiness. It´s more satisfying to have a job in which you feel like you are being useful than dedicating yourself to your hobbies.

If rich people have their lives oganized by others they are not being more productive by themselves, they are just payin other people to do the work they don´t want to do. "They" on themselves aren´t more productive, unless you think that the boss of a company is responsible for the whole output of it, which I feel is disrespectful with all the other people working under him.
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>>3033507
The production of a company wouldn't happen without the Boss, whereas the workers are literally hired.

Money is pretty much an opportunity multiplier. It allows people to take advantage of more opportunities than if they didn't have that security.

For instance, you spoke about financial security. How many people do you think could maintain their lifestyle if they miss a paycheck? If they missed two?

People severely underestimate what financial security is.
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>>3033507
the Boss is as replaceable as the workers, they both have jobs and while workers might be able to be less productive without a boss and the direction it provides, a boss wihout workers to boss around is just a deranged idiot shouting orders at the wind.

Of course, it doesn´t mean that the workers can´t organize by themselves and elect their bosses by a democratic principle anarchic cooperativism intensifies

I however agree with your finantial security point. You have to be worth a million or so to achieve true finantial security, which is something unnatainable for most people.
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>>3033524
I mean the Boss provides the capital and assumes the risk. Not my fault America made corporations people.

> anarchic cooperativism

Unless it's a joke this never works. Turns out screwing people over to a certain degree significantly improves people's lives.
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>>3033494
That's exactly what I've been saying. Though you even you discard the attractiveness aspect, and I don't believe for a moment tha it wasn't a factor in many if not most royal matches in history, you still have to consider that the ENTIRE point of the marriage is pumping out as many potential surviving heirs a son possible.

Connections, power, armies and getting your royal rocks off were all secondary to that. You can bet that, even if plainness was not much of an issue, wanting to bang and impregnate your wife queen certainly helps when they are not horrifically ugly.

Which, setting-wise, is possible for all candidates to Ben hags if the King/Mother Queen has somehow pissed off ALL the abbesses enough to shoot the kingdom in the metaphorical foot.


>>3033524
I recall reading that, once you have enough wealth to keep the wolves at bay (bills, expenses and unexpected health costs etc), wealth does very little to increase your level of happiness. Financial security is great for your happiness, being actually rich does not improve on that a whole lot.
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>>3033547
Is there any historical precedent for Abbesses to present only/mostly ba dcandidats as a sort of passive agressive way to manifest their displeasure with the onarchy? Where they subjcted by any backlash afterwards or did the event had any signifant ramifications?

>>3033540
Well, cooperative corporations, while growing slower than others, have been shown to be moe stable than your average company, so there is that. It is basically a way to apply democratic principles to a company, which is structured as a toned down dictatorship.

>>3033540
>unless this is a joke this never works
>pretends to be retarded by trying to ake anarchic cooperatism a thing
>it actual works

Now, jokes notwithstanding, fucking over people is counterproductive. For decades lobbies and rich people in general have opposed public policies that improve lower and sometimes middle class wellbeing. Actually implementing those policies helped those people.
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>>3033547
>you still have to consider that the ENTIRE point of the marriage is pumping out as many potential surviving heirs a son possible.
If you mean fertility, then yeah, I can believe that. Fertility isn't the same thing as sex appeal though. A plain looking sixteen year old would be far more fertile than an attractive thirty year old women with lots of sex appeal.

>You can bet that, even if plainness was not much of an issue, wanting to bang and impregnate your wife queen certainly helps when they are not horrifically ugly.
Most kings didn't mind their wives not being good looking, because they could've had as much as mistresses they wanted. So as long as the marriage was politically useful and produced healthy children, then the monarch didn't mind.
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I'm bone tired guys, no update tonight. Expect a short session in 14 hours or so as we chillax with Sir Glasdale and hash out our Knight's Code Skill.
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>>3033559
Fucking people over *to a degree*.

The trick is to take enough of the long end of the stick without destabilizing things.

I actually support cooperative corporations, but we gotta look at the multigenerational perspectives, and the problem with every system is ultimately that we're using the wrong kind of people.

Gotta divorce wealth from worth, and that isn't going to happen until we hit post post-scarcity and maybe not even then.

I'd rather push for basic income first, and focus on single steps like that before becoming a network of distributed micro-governments.

Anyways I gotta do blow if I'm to rant about my political ideals.

> Most kings didn't mind their wives not being good looking

Fucking actual autism. "A shit sandwich is fine because I can also eat pizza". Like, no. People aren't utilitarian robots.
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>>3033559
Oh and I'll point out that most rich people actually are progressive liberals.

The problem is that some can rocket to power on the backs of poor bigots.

See - America electing Trump.
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>>3033569
How often do revolutions occur, and are they populist or do they only involve the nobility, or do the nobility compete to sway the common man?

How strong is the legal system vs the Royal Court?
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>3033577
>Fucking actual autism. "A shit sandwich is fine because I can also eat pizza". Like, no. People aren't utilitarian robots.
Strawman. It has nothing to with Utilitarianism since they can get as much mistresses they want, so nice try.
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Are you *still* arguing with Montbrunfag, anons?

Get over it, the thread doesn't need this shit.

>>3033569
> mfw that means I won't be able to partecipate
Fuck timezones, man. Literally worse than Hitler.
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>>3033588
2nded
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>>3033582
>Revolutions
The Bluejays are constantly pushing for their common brethren to throw off the chains of the ruling class and live as free men. Some buy it, some don't. They were powerful during the War of Borders, but only because they were largely being ignored and could pick off individual fiefdoms with impunity. As Canton entered a era of stability free from invasion and civil war, the liberated enclaves they established were reabsorbed. Harshly.

The Queen and Church have great sway over the common populace. Queens past can and have used the threat of riling the populace into a furor if need be. Sometimes against individual lords, sometimes as a realm-wide DEFCON 1 nuke option if backed into a corner.

Social progression is high in Pascae and stagnant in Fallavon, the former valuing wealth and the latter repressive brutality contrasted with the 'opt out' option of going innawoods.


>Legal system,
Varies according to Duchy. In Fallavon each lord is basically the law unto himself for his fief, varying from magnanimous to tyrannical. Whereas in Pascae you have juries (commoners for commoners and nobles for nobles, they haven't gone completely crazy). The Royal's have very little legal power beyond Aubrey that can be exercised without political support of other Lords or Dukes. There's no centralised body of law, though precedents can be followed within a Duchy. Trial by combat is generally accepted as an obvious means of the Almighty revealing the innocent or guilty and is a perfect 'out' for many nobles who are either skilled themselves or surrounded by skilled retainers. Being accused of even the most heinous crime by a commoner will often amount to nothing in all Duchies unless another noble is convinced/enticed and challenges them to combat or brings legal proceedings. The Royals can target individual Lords afar easily enough, often relying on their own guard as the investigators or accusers. It is perfectly acceptable in Canton society to purposefully insult another noble to goad them into a duel, many a times these are lethal if that is the intention. It is usually a surefire way of a man earning the attention of his love, to remove someone that offends her with their very presence.

Being a foreigner is tricky, you basically have no recourse to the courts unless you have a Canton noble representing you.

The church is governed by an entirely separate set of laws for many commercial, land and other matters. They are archaic but comprehensive, meaning they are not 'free reign' to muddle with non-church issues. Often the matter of law and courts in rural areas is granted to them on a case by case basis, Canton simply doesn't have an established pool of judges with any permanence in most area. The Queen has virtual immunity to many laws, as does her immediate counsel.


TL;DR Aside from Pascae, Royals are pre Magna Carta levels of power, but rarely stupid enough to push it too far.
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>>3033588
I'll post the skills now for discussion.

The skills vote will be open for a while, likely the last vote of this thread if I can help it. If I suspect samefagging when the actual vote comes, I'll call a revote. Shit, but it seems some anons are not getting the message.
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>>3033595
> The Queen and Church have great sway over the common populace.

Is it a sexy sway?
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DISCUSSION ONLY, this is not a vote. I will open the vote sometime later tomorrow.

As was obvious from BCQ, my ability to make a skill tree that is not an absolute eyesore is... lacking. Hopefully, this isn't terrible, and we will leave the crunchy stuff in a pastebin.

Each Code comes with one of two bonuses and one conditions, or vow. Acting in a manner contrary to the vow means you lose the benefit of the Code until you redeem yourself in some manner. Great for us storywise, shit for you mechanically. When spending a skill point, you must select one of two bonuses. It is possible to unlock both, but not before the rest of the Knight's Code has been unlocked at least once.

There are all manner of things that can grant you wealth, glory, power and fulfillment. But only fulfilling a sworn oath to complete a difficult task can grant you a Code skill. As we continue, the standard for what constitutes 'difficult' may rise. I will personally attempt to severely punish a playstyle that tries to pick out the easiest possible oath for an easy Code.

Unlocking every step in the Knight's Code will mark you as a Great Knight, one for the songs. Unlocking each of them again will put you in the running for Sainthood, possibly in your lifetime even. Your Adam, Cain and even Thorn choices do not change this. 'Great' does not mean 'Good', after all.
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>A Knight is Sworn to Valour
A) Lead by Example: Double DC effect Winning Personal combat has on Battle Progress.
B) Turn the Tide: Winning Personal Combat allows you to re-roll ALL Battle Progress rolls next round.
*You may not flee in the face of the Foe, save by direct command of your liegelord.

>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
A) Flower of Chivalry: Re-Roll all Courtship Rolls
B) Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Path of Adam OR Cain
*You may not be unfaithful to your wife. You may not father bastards, even if unmarried.

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
B) Warform Stance: Double success grant +2 Auto-Damage instead of +1.
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

>His Might Upholds The Weak
A) Shield of the Realm: Re-Roll 1 Failed Armour Save per Combat
B) Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage.
*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.

>His Words Speaks Only Truth
A) Orator: +20DC to Persuasion Rolls
B) Leader of Men: +1 Companion Limit
*You may not speak a lie, even to save your own life.

>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
B) Angel of Death: For one round, damage to Foe is doubled.
*You will neither permit nor abide a villain, nor allow their ill behaviour to go unpunished.
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>>3033595
The Magna Carta didn't really do much in regards to the power of the monarch. Neither King John, nor the Barons abided by the paper, then King Edward I Longshanks slaughtered all the radical Barons in the second Baron's war (Simon Montfort had a particularly gruesome death). In fact, the power of the monarch sometimes kept increasing, and by the time of the Tudors the monarch's power was so absolute that he could execute anyone that displeased him regardless of their feudal rank. It wasn't until the Glorious revolution that the monarch's was significantly decreased.
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>>3033606
I really like what you've done here. There are some great options to pick from and some of those vows look like they could be really challenging which will be a lot of fun
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Note, acting contrary to a vow also prevents you from unlocking it until you have redeemed yourself (either by a great act, Royal/Duke/Church pardon or service in a Holy Order).

>>3033600
There are some knights literally in love with the woman, joining the Order Reginae in their adoration rather than political interests. In a confounding cultural quirk, openly loving the married Queen is seen as acceptable and even laudable. Consummating it or attempting to seduce the idol of their affection is conversely a base and treasonous failing.

Yes, yes I ripped this straight off Lancelot and Guenivere

As for the peasantry, most will never see her in their lifetime of course. Heck, most will never see outside their fief (or Duchy at the least). They have the same love of her that people today have of their favourite celebrity.

Why am I answering so seriously? Yes. Yes it is a sexy sway.
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>>3033608
I suppose you're right. Certainly Canton monarchs aren't Tudor level. Probably the best comparison is pre-King Edward I then with the Dukes in a similar role to the Barons.
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>>3033606
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.
but can we cut their tendons QM :^)
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>>3033606
So being a wicked knight is a disadvantage?
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>>3033611
On the topic of monarchs, will you ever do a history and a family tree for all the monarchs of Canton? It doesn't have to be detailed, just include dates, their most notable achievements, their character, their family, etc... sort of like how GRRM did with the Targaryen dynasty in the histories of ASOIAF.
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>>3033614
Makes sense since we're idealist.
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>>3033606
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
this would be amazing against enemy knights
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>>3033612
Certainly not.

But it is perfectly reasonable to say "I shall give you one chance to pick up your weapon and die with some dignity, [insert stinging insult here]. If you lack the spine even for that, I shall have my archer here put one in your eye."

You're not obliged to spare a miserable wretch their life because the asked for quarter at the last instant. You're just supposed to give them the opportunity of a chance of defending themselves.

>>3033614
You can be the Baddest Knight of All, if you wish. If you vote to swear an oath to do something foul, I'll still grant the skill point so long as the deed is impressive.

Let's say you vowed to murder someone of note that is completely innocent, this is entirely possible without breaking any vows should you get creative.
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>>3033621
Oh man, that's... well it's going to be complex. I can try, but I don't see the point (beyond fluff) unless you are definitely going to be politically involved.

It's entirely feasible that you decide to frakk of to the Holy Land and then just keep going. To places where folk haven't ever seen a knight or even know what the heck your 'chivalry' deal is about. You ready for MORE MAPS map-bro?
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>>3033606
>*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

I love this trope so much. We should go for this one.

It reminds me of the duel between Arthur Dayne and the Smiling Knight in the books Game of Thrones, where Dayne manages to break his opponent's blade and, instead of taking this opportunity and killing him on the spot since he is disarmed, he steps back and points to the weapons on the ground (they are on a battlefield) and says, "Take one of these swords". The Smiling Knight replies, "I don't want one of these swords. I want yours."
Dayne: "You'll have it, I promise."
Then the Smiling Knight picks up a sword, attacks Dayne, and Dayne plunges his blade into his opponent's body whispering in his ear: "See ? I always keep my promises."
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>>3033629
>You ready for MORE MAPS map-bro?

I was born ready.
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>>3033629
>Oh man, that's... well it's going to be complex. I can try, but I don't see the point (beyond fluff) unless you are definitely going to be politically involved.
Oh, it certainly doesn't have to be complex if you don't want to. I wouldn't mind just a family tree from the first king to the current one.

but I don't see the point (beyond fluff) unless you are definitely going to be politically involved.
I just would like to know the lore.
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>>3033606
>B) Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage.
would this count with battered or only injured and wounded cause that's 15 dc and pretty much finishes the fight barring 100s not that i mind
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>>3033634
Hmm, well I guess a short explanation of the founded monarchy could work as an appetizer.

Cain and Adam were the obvious rulers in their time, but the never fathered children. Nor did Salvae Reginae bear (and is rumoured could -not- bear) another child. Most of the nobility were from the Cathagi escaped slave populace, most of the common folk were from pre-existing indigenous populations. At this point, miscegenation was not a taboo.

After Adam's martyrdom and Cain's self-imposed exile the Brother's greatest generals and retainers divided the conquered continent between them, eventually forming the Duchies. Their largely Cathagi-ethnic armies formed the landholding class, just rewards for their life of exodus and conquest. Faith and the continued threat of a resurgent Wild Foe kept the territories together more than any sense of nationhood. It is at this point where we start to get a solid history separated from legend Generations later during the War of Names the General-Dukes were united in a decades-long campaign to utterly suppress the Wild and Foreign footholds on the continent. Pragmatic enough to understand the advantage of a central hierarchy, they appointed a Generalis Rex. This was supposed to be a wartime only appointment but, of course, the last and greatest of these General Kings made it a permanent dynasty. Through political sleight of hand he prevented outright rebellion from the other Generals by literally marrying himself into an alliance with the Church, suddenly giving him (or rather his wife) a way of threatening the Generals with heresy and popular revolt if their disregard for his edicts was too open. If the man wasn't such a winner at every obstacle, the whole thing would have collapsed in his life. If his wife wasn't in complete alliance with him and showed weakness in any way, it would have collapsed after his death.

The history of the churches power and the complications of a check and balance mixed in with a marriage alliance is for another time. Suffice to say, the King and Queen have historically shared a common rival with the Dukes. Sometimes this has even resulted in a working relationship, or at least a cordial agreement to not actively sabotage one another while they ensure heirs are made.
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>>3033640
I understand the confusion. It is meant to compound Injury and Wound states, not Battered.
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>>3033631
VERILY.
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>>3033596
Regarding samefaggery.

I have stopped getting any real joy from voting, since around the skaldening, so i mostly lurk and read, if i find a vote pretty important (or hilarious) i'll vote, and probably end up with a one post ID, while i acknowledge this will generate suspicion, i just wanted to toss that two cents in for your consideration.
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>>3033642
Interesting information and thank you for all the lore.

It's seems the position of the Queen is so powerful that it rivals, or even exceeds that of the King. What would happen if a young unmarried king simply refused to marry a queen from the Church? What if he remains single all his life with several mistresses, then has one of his bastards legitimized and declared heir?
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Cannons when?fuck I'll even take primitive cannons!
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>>3033647
I understand and I thank you for being part of the audience, I get quite suspicious if there is a sudden sway or constant trickle of 1 post id's veering one way over a limited time.
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>>3033657
Almighty spare our fair realm from such a rash and faithless King.

It would make King Charles dissolving parliament look like a slightly rash leadership spill.
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>>3033667
Honestly what induces so much samefag paranoia IMO is the case of the trickle of 1:1 votes for popular options compounded by the fact 90% of the votes give little to no indicaton as to why they are inclined to vote the way they have.

TLDR it's less the outright statment and more the Implication of anonymous action.
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>>3033673
So if the King refuses to marry a queen from the Church, he will get his head separated from his body? I guess that shows who's more powerful.
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>>3033674
I doubt there is much I can do about that, as >>3033647 has said, we have plenty of anons not actively participating and it's unfair to raise the bar of allowing votes so that they too are excluded.

It is imperfect, but I don't think there is much I can do other than root out blatant samefagging and remind folk that all it achieves is wasting all our time on flash votes that leave harsh feelings.

On a positive note, I think it is certainly nowhere near as bad as it appeared to be during Gabriel's chargen.
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>>3033675
Not before he loses a war, he won't
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>>3033677
I see then. Thanks for taking the time to answer.
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>>3033676
Really, what little bit of Gabriel's whole five mins in the spotlight was rife with cancer, and the cancer is STILL HERE.
Peeps are still bitching about having a "pansy knight", and bitching that we made a carbon copy, bitching that gabe died because of being a pansy knight (ignoring a critfail would kill anyone) instead of a more stereotypical knight (boring, imo, at least compared to a legit aubres court intrigue knight).

If this one dies, i'd bet the samefagging for the next one will be worse. Beware!

The worst part is that the effort of rooting them (the whiney cancer lads) out will encourage ID swapping even further, since you can only revoke their right to a vote, and only then you can only revoke based on ID
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Alright, time for Autistic Analysis™. Not sure how if it will be appreciated but I love me some crunch.

>A Knight is Sworn to Valour
A) Lead by Example: Simple, nice bonus. I find it a bit situational though, especially if compared to his brother…
B) Turn the Tide: Alright, this is one hell of a skill. Re-rolling all failed Battle Progress is huge, even with the risk of double failures. If it can be spammed it’s downright broken as frak.
C) Vow: In a sense, this oath is rather restrictive (unless chivalry allows for tactical retreats, which I doubt) but it also isn’t, since it’s specifically refers to the Foe. If one has a sensible liegelord and good combat aptitude this vow is not much of a burden, if not it’s a delayed death sentence.
>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
A) Flower of Chivalry: Repeat with me – re-rolls are love, re-rolls are life. Even in the field of courtship which isn’t Emile’s specialty this is a pretty good skill to have.
B) Holy Orders: One more chance to save your ass on the battlefield *and* progression towards new cool skills. This Code is definitely high-tier.
C) Vow: Honestly, I don’t see Anons cheating on their waifu – so the first part is taken care of. The second is trickier but not too difficult to handle. It’s a pretty acceptable vow all in all unless you meet the equivalent of Elizabeth I – Almighty helps you in that case.
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: Improved DC is always a boon and a straight +10 to every combat is more than welcome.
B) Warform Stance: I’m more skeptical on this if only because it relies too much on the Dice Gods for a single, additional point of damage. Pass.
C) Vow: The workarounds of this have been already discussed. Decent.

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>>3033606
It seems all the of the codes have great advantages but also bad disadvantages.

>A Knight is Sworn to Valour
>A) Lead by Example: Double DC effect Winning Personal combat has on Battle Progress.
>B) Turn the Tide: Winning Personal Combat allows you to re-roll ALL Battle Progress rolls next round.
>*You may not flee in the face of the Foe, save by direct command of your liegelord.

This one will give us a great advantage at affecting battles. It's disadvantage won't be really important unless we get messed up in combat real bad.

>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
>A) Flower of Chivalry: Re-Roll all Courtship Rolls
>B) Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Path of Adam OR Cain
>*You may not be unfaithful to your wife. You may not father bastards, even if unmarried.

This one is the one with the least bad disadvantage. The only ones who would care are the ones who want to make a harem, or turn Emile into a manwhore.

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
>A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
>B) Warform Stance: Double success grant +2 Auto-Damage instead of +1.
>*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

This ones gives us really great advantages in combat, but choosing it means we would have to give our foes a chance to fight back.

>His Might Upholds The Weak
>A) Shield of the Realm: Re-Roll 1 Failed Armour Save per Combat
>B) Staggering Blows: Opponent's suffer additional Injury(-5DC) with every point damage.
>*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.
This one almost assures that we will win in a long fight after we do damage in the first couple of rounds. But we will have to help people we might not like though.

>His Words Speaks Only Truth
>A) Orator: +20DC to Persuasion Rolls
>B) Leader of Men: +1 Companion Limit
>*You may not speak a lie, even to save your own life.

This one gives us a really good social advantage+one more companion that can fight with us. It also makes us shieldless against intrigue types however.

>>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
>A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
>B) Angel of Death: For one round, damage to Foe is doubled.
>*You will neither permit nor abide a villain, nor allow their ill behaviour to go unpunished.
This one gives us a great advantage against Foe enemy types, but it also forces us to fight any Foe no matter how powerful they are.
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>His Might Upholds The Weak
A) Shield of the Realm: Can literally save your life…once per combat. By no means bad but a bit underwhelming.
B) Staggering Blows: The more I damage the opponent, the easier it gets to kill. It needs skills that improve the base DC to work well, once it does Emile will turn into a rapetrain.
C) Vow: Oooof, this is troublesome. Accepting a honest request could very well spell Emile’s doom, either because against a force too dangerous for him or because he didn’t read the other person well. I imagine that improving Courtship would help with the latter at least.
>His Words Speaks Only Truth
A) Orator: Great bonus in a lot of situations. Solid choice.
B) Leader of Men: Meh. It could be worth it if we meet some sort of uber-knight that we absolutely want to JOLLY COOPERATE with, otherwise it’s a pass.
C) Vow: Demanding oath if the old Jedi school of thought ‘It’s not a lie if it’s true from a certain point of view’ can’t be applied to it. Otherwise, with some clever thinking it’s a doable oath.
>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: Do you see those sturdy foes over there? Yeah, I don’t see them either. Pretty good skill since the faster we wound an enemy the better. Plus, we can shout pic related.
B) Angel of Death: CARNOTAUR IS BACK! Nerfed, but back nonetheless. Doubling damage for one round can literally mean the difference between life and death, as many BCQ veterans know.
C) Vow: This one is tricky. Not associating with people of dubious moral value is a given but other than that the first part seems rather open (I’d like of Forgotten gave some insight on it). The latter is more obvious but at least it seems to leave the chance to bide for time open – so no charging the obvious evil necromancer surrounded by an army.
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>>3033606
>*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.
Is this applicable to aiding a murderer kill innocents?

>>3033691
>It also makes us shieldless against intrigue types however.
>>3033692
>C) Vow: Demanding oath if the old Jedi school of thought ‘It’s not a lie if it’s true from a certain point of view’ can’t be applied to it. Otherwise, with some clever thinking it’s a doable oath.
We could refuse to answer or omit certain or irrelevant parts, depending on what constitutes as a lie.
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>>3033696
>We could refuse to answer or omit certain or irrelevant parts, depending on what constitutes as a lie.
Nah, Forgotten already said he is gonna punish any attempts to pick out the easiest way to fulfil the oath. We actually have to tell the actual truth.
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>>3033606
>>His Heart Knows Only Virtue

How does this work for MANLY LOVE.

Can we be gayboi knight? Get ourselves a lovely little lady trap?
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>>3033691
>The only ones who would care are the ones who want to make a harem, or turn Emile into a manwhore.

GOALS, Anon. What point Chivalry and Honour if it isn't for love?

Gay love.
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>>3033691
I don't mean that chaste love between men either.
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>>3033706
He wouldn't have shown here >>3033626 a workaround for an oath then.

No, what Forgotten said is:
> I will personally attempt to severely punish a playstyle that tries to pick out the easiest possible oath for an easy Code.
Which doesn't mean that all reasonable attempts to avoid being Lawful Stupid will be punished, but rather choosing 'easy' oaths to have an easy life in the Quest.

Basically, 'avoid Metagaming too much, Anon'.

>>3033716
>>3033723
>>3033726
Bring thy faggotry out of this establishment, knave.
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>>3033732
True Love can only bloom on the battlefield.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjALfA-ViEU

Replace "Superheroes" with "Knights".
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>>3033716
>>3033723
>>3033726
>>3033736
I honestly don't think I've ever seen a gay male MC in a quest before.

it'd certainly be a change.
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>>3033738
Go to Anonkun and your desire shall be granted.

Be careful what you wish for, however.
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>>3033740
>Anonkun

NO
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>>3033732
>He wouldn't have shown here >>3033626 a workaround for an oath then.
That's not a workaround for an oath. We still have to give an enemy a fighting chance.

>Which doesn't mean that all reasonable attempts to avoid being Lawful Stupid will be punished, but rather choosing 'easy' oaths to have an easy life in the Quest.

I don't really care what you consider to be ''Lawful Stupid''. No, he clearly says he will punish any attempts for an easy playstyle like your ''workaround'' tactic where you fulfil the oath in the easiest way possible to make sure there aren't any actual consequences.
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>>3033740
Ew.

Fade to black, please. Let's not be fucking faggots about our battlefield buttsex.

>>3033738
Mecha Space Pirate Quest had a pre-op trans love interest that the MC both boned AND married.

It was handled exceedingly well by both Wong, and the players. Super wholesome without belaboring the point nor fetishizing it.

It's one of those times that 4chan takes you from left field.
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>>3033626
>You can be the Baddest Knight of All, if you wish. If you vote to swear an oath to do something foul, I'll still grant the skill point so long as the deed is impressive.

I am simply reminded of how a Jerusalem count was brutalised and killed by a Breton knight.
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>>3033746
>Trans love intrest

well shit that is something I would not expect from this site considering Traps are rightly considered gay as fuck
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>>3033752
Love was found on the battlefield, and when the MC found out that they had non-standard equipment . . . well, they fell in love with the person and cuteness is justice so there we were.
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>>3033746
>Mecha space pirate

No wonder you like eating ass.
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>>3033746
> Let's not be fucking faggots
> talking about literal gay sex
Alright, I kek'd a lot.

>>3033743
No, it's a workaround because strictly speaking as long as the enemy doesn't wield a weapon you can't strike him down.

A textbook case of not tempering a chivalrous code with common sense, which I'm sure Forgotten will allow us to do in some measure instead.

> No, I don't care about yo stopid! Here's what Forgotten said, even if it's not!
Easy Montbrunfag, your inner manchild is showing.
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>>3033758
>Montbrunfag

Where did this name come from?
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>>3033760
One guy bitched about not getting Montbrun pretty hard so now everyone uses it as a scapegoat/strawman for anyone they disagree with.
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>>3033760
I'd say read the last thread but that would take far too long so here's the rough gist

>Anons talk about their choice
>Montbrunfag talks about his but instead of just picking his for the fun of it, tries to game the system and insist his way is the right way despite evidence that his way would have just fucked his choice over as hard as the rest of us
That's it really in a nutshell.
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>>3033761
I gotta say, it fits N1kGDULC).
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>>3033758
>No, it's a workaround because strictly speaking as long as the enemy doesn't wield a weapon you can't strike him down.
No, it isn't. We can't strike them if we don't give them the chance to fight and die with a weapon to defend themselves. If he refuses the offer, then you don't have to spare them. The oath is to not personally strike them down while they are unarmed, not ''give quarter to any enemy that yields''. A workaround would be considering your own foes arms as a weapon and thus, you are justified in striking them down.

>A textbook case of not tempering a chivalrous code with common sense, which I'm sure Forgotten will allow us to do in some measure instead.
I don't care what you consider a ''chivalrous code with common sense''.

>Easy Montbrunfag, your inner manchild is showing.
There is nothing ''manchild'' about what I said. I'm simply apathetic to your opinion.
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>>3033762
>despite evidence that his way would have just fucked his choice over as hard as the rest of us
Not really. I wouldn't have chased the beastmen like an idiot without a companion, just to get that Path of Cain trait for the ''DEUS VULT'' persona, so nice try.
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>>3033762
>>3033761
Did I not totally fucking call it >>3033764?

Hahaha holy fuck.

But yes. Your tale of Montbrunfag the Sore in Arse is completely believable.

Also. Montbrunfag. Pic related. Just stop posting for a while and go have a smoke or a wank or something to chill out.
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>>3033767
>Not really. I wouldn't have chased the beastmen like an idiot without a companion, just to get that Path of Cain trait for the ''DEUS VULT'' persona, so nice try.
Then why didn't you support that one post that suggested that we go back and round up a mob to go hunt down the beastmen m8?
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>>3033760
You see, in the very first thread there was this Anon that clamored for a Idealistic and Humble knight (I know, so vanilla it hurts) hailing from Montbrun, Canton's version of grim and hardy folks.

He was very insistent, stubborn and annoying about his opinions, as if he held the only truth of the universe.

He also argued for over half the thread that Gabriel's death wasn't caused by a nat 100, but rather terrible strategical choices on Anon's part.

Resembles N1kGDULC, doesn't he?

>>3033761
Hey, I only ever called him Montbrunfag, not anyone else.

>>3033764
No, because if he refuses he's still 'unarmed or defenceless', which falls under the oath's prohibition.

Of course, any human being with a brain would understand that rigid adherence to the code is stupid there, and thus must be applied with sense. A perfectly reasonable workaround is born.
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>>3033767
>>3033770
Dude.

Duuuuuuuude.

It's actually him.
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>>3033768
I'm not really upset the Montbrun thing. I really don't care whether you believe in my ''tale''.
>>3033769
What option? The only options were:
1. Chase the beastman into his camp without a companion


2. Save the peasant woman we abaondned and get ger somewhere safe.


I picked the second option.
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>>3033769
Anon as the Guy who Autisticly argued with this fag for most of this thread stop this road is not worth walking.
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>>3033770
>You see, in the very first thread there was this Anon that clamored for a Idealistic and Humble knight (I know, so vanilla it hurts) hailing from Montbrun, Canton's version of grim and hardy folks.

He was probably a dual wielding dexfag casul.
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>>3033773
and yet you continuesly claim like him that choices factored in at all, a position litreally no one else has actually held.

but your totally not him.
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>>3033773
Ah ok, just wanted to know.

>>3033776
Now that's an insult to all dexfags, at least you can garner some hilarity out of them when they derp into a fuck up.
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>>3033770
>No, because if he refuses he's still 'unarmed or defenceless', which falls under the oath's prohibition.
No, he doesn't. If he refuses, then he refused to arm himself which at that point we're not obligated to spare him since the oath doesn't require us to give any quarter.

>Of course, any human being with a brain would understand that rigid adherence to the code is stupid there, and thus must be applied with sense. A perfectly reasonable workaround is born.
I don't care whether you consider it to be stupid, or not. Your ''workaround'' tactic is nothing more than softly breaking the oath and then pretending you didn't break it.


>>3033778
I never denied this, so i don't see what you're point here.
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>>3033773
>I'm not really upset the Montbrun thing. I really don't care whether you believe in my ''tale''.

> I really don't care whether you believe in my ''tale''.


Okay, I'm starting to feel bad because I know people joke about autism but this is like, actually sad that you misunderstood my post so much.

The "tale" was referring to the story >>3033770
was telling about the autistic person from the first thread who couldn't handle not getting his way and was so convinced of his own views that he couldn't just play the game of make believe.

>>3033774
It's not like we're going to run out of posts at this point.

Besides, maybe he'll cry!

I lied earlier when I said I was starting to feel bad. Some people only learn by being bluntly told the truth before resetting their router to have a new IP and avoid their shameful past of being THAT Guy.
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>>3033784
Honestly your turning into the asshole that's dragging this through the mud far too much at this point. Chill dude who cares.
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>>3033784
>It's not like we're going to run out of posts at this point.

Its an excericise in futility and just trolling attempting to troll just brings down the quality of the thread and please don't do that.
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>>3033696
I feel like the key term here is "aid".

I think it's mean as in Succor.

noun: succour; noun: succor

1.
assistance and support in times of hardship and distress.

synonyms: aid, help, a helping hand, assistance; More

comfort, ease, relief, support, TLC
"they are providing succor in times of need"
archaic
reinforcements of troops.

We aren't someones handyman, but we are obliged to defend the weak and shit. Even criminals, if they honestly asked us to comfort them as they died or carry out a reasonable last request or act as the executor or testator for their estate etc then we would be obligated to do our best to do so or find someone who would.

English isn't a precise language.

Anyways we should wait for Forgotten to actually answer shit instead of worrying about rules lawyering.

Alternatively, we could always ask if an action would violate our oath or not.
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>>3033784
>Okay, I'm starting to feel bad because I know people joke about autism but this is like, actually sad that you misunderstood my post so much.The "tale" was referring to the story >>3033770was telling about the autistic person from the first thread who couldn't handle not getting his way and was so convinced of his own views that he couldn't just play the game of make believe.>>3033774It's not like we're going to run out of posts at this point. Besides, maybe he'll cry!I lied earlier when I said I was starting to feel bad. Some people only learn by being bluntly told the truth before resetting their router to have a new IP and avoid their shameful past of being THAT Guy.
Not a single thing you said is the ''truth''. You can keep typing your baseless opnions until your fingers break, won't make them any more true.

Also, nice ad hominem, but none of that refutes a single thing I said in the pervious quest or the one before it.
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>>3033788
Well personally I'm waiting on getting an answer about penis jousting still.
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>>3033782
Whether or not you should give him quarter isn't part of the oath, don't change the subject.

You're still striking down someone defenceless and unarmed. Refuting your offer doesn't change this fact.

Tell me, how does that not conflict with an oath that forbids you from killing unarmed or defenceless people?
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>>3033738
Knights can't be gay. They still have to take wives you know.
>>3033760
It's basically this one dude who have been on non stop whining mode ever since his choice in the first character creation was defeated. He's been shitting the threads non stop and his posts are at least 10% of the each so it's pretty easy to tell.
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>>3033795
>>3033792

Yeah he's actually gotten incoherent. Looking at the time of the posts, it's probably way past his bedtime or something.

Like. What the fuck is this "truth" (with quotes!" he's referring to? Can anyone help me decipher this?
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>>3033796
I'm down to penis joust 100% myself. Thots are for marriage and children only. Our fellow knights is where the true romance lies.
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>>3033799
>Knights can't be gay. They still have to take wives you know.

I never said we wouldn't do our marital duty. Duty is the soul of a Knight.

But his Battle Brothers are his heart.
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>>3033799
Plenty of gay people got married and had children in the medical age.

It's our duty to take a wife and be married but no one said we cant fuck our bros.
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>>3033803
In classical tradition, I vote we go for HEAVY implication but no outright confirmation.
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>>3033808
>heavy implication
>POV MC

not really possible or maybe Im just unimaginative enough.
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>>3033807
Hope you don't take that "His Heart Knows Only Virtue" vow or you're going to get in trouble.
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>>3033797
I didn't change the subject. You're the one who brought your false equivalence of comparing giving an enemy a chance to fight to giving him quarter.

>You're still striking down someone defenceless and unarmed. Refuting your offer doesn't change this fact.
No, it do change it. Refusing to fight with a weapon means he had the option to fight unarmed but he wanted quarter to be given.
Our oath isn't to give quarter, it's give enemies a chance to die sword in hand.
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>>3033812
Well we can fuck plenty before marriage it seems. Were not gonna father bastards with men.

>>3033808
That's tough to do in first POV but if forgotten can do it I'm all for.
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>>3033690
>>3033692

Also I really like this analysis of the options.

Fun fact for His Wrath Undoes the Wicked, Villain means "Farmer" so we would be going around rocking Chevauchée tactics murdering the peasants to starve and impoverish the production abilities of our enemies.

You know.

If we were going to be as autistic as possible about the wording of oaths instead of the intent.

I'm down. Anyone ever see Seven Samurai? Peasants are garbage.
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>>3033801
That's a great attempt at ridicule and all, but you still haven't refuted a single thing about what I said.
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>>3033818
Let's just get all the oaths and break them all instantly at the same time for those sweet oath breaker perks.
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>>3033814
Shut up.
>>3033784
You too.
>>3033770
Please, stop.


When did forgotten get this cancer?
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>>3033822
No idea it's kind of lame I just want to talk about fucking and seducing our fellow knights.
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>>3033812
But that's just it, it's virtuous sex since we aren't cheating on our wife with an unwed woman, and zero chances of a bastard.

We'd probably have to be loyal to any Battle Brother we make an Affrerement with.

An affrerement was a written agreement between two people to form one household and share un pain, un vin, et une bourse (“one bread, one wine, and one purse”). In Italy, the contracts used a similar phrase: a une pane e uno vino. The reference to sharing the same bread and wine was meant to signify that the people would share all their property in the years to come.
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>>3033822
When we were allowed to have character creation in the first thread. And Forgotten not bothering to unfuck the crunch parts of the origins
But that's just my opinion on the matter, who truly knows what caused it to happen.
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>>3033823
See >>3033824.

There's precedence, and if Law has taught me anything that's half the battle.
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>>3033822
When someone decided to go full autism.

Okay, someONES.
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Miss me with this gayshit
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>>3033820
I'm not seeing any Oathbreaker perks, but honestly I don't see why that should stop us.

I would think that the "perk" would be instant gratification. Like fleeing and surviving, or touching the Reginae in her rhyming area, or stabbing someone who would be trouble later but was unarmed now.

Quick question - do we lose the perk *if nobody finds out we violated the oath*?
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>>3033830
Sshh bby it's not gay if it's after battle.
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>>3033832
I get the feeling that it's the spirit of the choice rather than being famous for it that causes us to fall.
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>>3033814
No, you bring up false equivalences all the time - like 'not taking a weapon = to be given quarter".

You can't strike down defenceless or unarmed opponent. You're doing so anyway - and the fact he refused to wield a weapon doesn't factor in it.

Tell me again, how are you going to uphold your honor in this case?

>>3033822
Fine, fine.

>>3033824
First off, you're bedding someone else other than your spouse. Textbook definition of unfaithfulness.

there's no such thing in Canton as far as we are aware. Despite taking from medieval societies the Affrerement (or something similar) doesn't necessarily have to exist here.

You're a funny dude, Faggotbro, but don't take your autism too far and turn this thread in your Magical Realm. And if you want to have gay knights, go fap over Astolfo pics.
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>>3033832
I would assume so as these powers are being granted through a third more magical party. At least imagine assuming so.

I like the idea of fucking and impregnating the queen, running away from goatmen, killing some innocent peasant while lieing about our actions and denying someone's request all at the same time.
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>>3033823
Remember, it's not gay if we fuck them missionary, that way our balls can't touch.

Big bear emile, bb.
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>>3033841
Kissing is ok tho, no homo
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>>3033839
>No, you bring up false equivalences all the time - like 'not taking a weapon = to be given quarter".
No, I didn't.

>-like 'not taking a weapon = to be given quarter".
Strawman. I said giving him a chance to fight back, and then striking him if he refuses while wanting quarter wouldn't break our oath. We have already gave him the means to fight back and he refused, so we have already fulfiled our oath.


>You can't strike down defenceless or unarmed opponent. You're doing so anyway - and the fact he refused to wield a weapon doesn't factor in it.
No, it does factor in it. By giving him the chance to pick up a weapon, we have shown he isn't defenceless and can fight back against us. Him refusing won't make him any less capable of defending himself.
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>>3033839
I'm unsure myself of how serious I am about being a gay Knight.

But until we're married it's fine, and sex is only P in V. Sodomy is an entirely different act, akin to masturbation.

Besides is it a legal matter, or a matter of the heart? If our wife knows about it and accepts it from the beginning, is it unfaithfulness?

She's simply a surrogate. Maybe also a good friend, but not our true love.

Alternatively there's always 3somes.

Or hell, giving up the mechanical advantage for true love is also fine.

After all, sometimes it's worth losing that +5 in order to protect someone.

I'm referencing how we killed Kid for a mechanical advantage here, just to be clear. It's not always the right choice to make your decision based on dice.

That's the fun part about the oaths. We don't have to make them, and we don't have to keep them. We just have to deal with the consequences.
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>>3033842
Kiss him on his lower head! Look, it's winking at us!
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>>3033892
You know, even after what happened, I would have also voted ofr Kid to raise the banner high. A plus five DC might have been the difference between victory, defeat and/or more Black Company membes dying. Probability wise, the chance of Kid dying was very very low (having to roll for casualties AND end up with Kid´s life on the line AND rolling a six, the only number which might have killed him for good). It was a risk worth taking, calculated, an it is time we stop trying to repent for choosing what was the best choice.
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>>3033969
>Only caring about numerical advantages
You're a monster. You should run for office.
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>>3033969
Risking a child in battle makes the question one of whether or not a line was crossed for whether we should have won the battle.

My point is, we earned the ending we got in that quest.
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>Go to sleep happy that anons are awakening their inner autism and getting crunchy with the skill discussion
>Wake up to THIS

Consider my jimmies rustled. I have asked both of you to stop derailing the thread with your POINTLESS argument.

The technicality of adhering to an oath is fine, like whether ordering someone to do something beneath you is breaking your oath and the like. Or whether omission is a lie. Fine, argue about that. Spend time defining the line in the sand between actual adherence and pure technicality if you wish, because that is relevant.

Continue the other aspect of your petty insults and old arguement and I will begin purposefully exclude your input and votes from the quest.
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>>3033690
>>3033692
You're a gem.

>>3033691
You're a gem.

Great analysis for furthering discussion.
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>>3033977
A numerical advantage that might have helped saved more lives. It´s not a good choice to make anon. But it was the right one, as twisted as that might sound like.

>>3033980
Can´t refute that. But never did Kid show any cowardice in the field, never hinted at prefering rearguard jobs. We was a damm good member of the Company, who uphold his duty and paid with his life. The act of of endangering a life is hideous by itself. Yet we were a mercenary company. Besides, we had many more Yougn Troopers apart from Kid, and some of them dies and/or got horribly mangled.

>>3034176
Regarding happier issues Forgotten, it doesn´t really counts as breaking the "His Heart knows Only virtue " vow if we do it to a shield brother right? It is a different kind of after all
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>>3034184
Thank you, Forgotten.

And could you please shed some light on the vow of 'His Wrath Undoes the Wicked', specifically the first part? And whether the use of the word 'villain' means human beings alone or both scummy people and Foe?
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>>3034206
*kind of love
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>implied gay from POV
I guess... a hell of a lot of noticing the athletic man bods but never actually confirming that Emile is attracted to them?

To be honest I find the gayness discussion to be less rife with faggotry than the other trolling argument.

>>3033848
>Strawman. I said giving him a chance to fight back, and then striking him if he refuses while wanting quarter wouldn't break our oath. We have already gave him the means to fight back and he refused, so we have already fulfiled our oath.

Borderline, I suppose. Though it certainly wouldn't be in breach to have him hanged or otherwise executed should he refuse to fight.

I also don't imagine it would be chivalrous to hand an untrained and unarmoured foe a weapon and then cut them down In full plate. Path of Thorns asf, but technically within the code.
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>>3034206
My problem with taking Kid into battle isn't whether it was right or wrong but you are only pointing out a numerical advantage and not whether Prince was the type of man that would do this (he was btw).

Emile, on the other hand, is not that type of person. He's not an orphaned mercenary with serious anger issues and a tendency to be a smart ass to everything dangerous in the world. Let's forget those choices because that was a different world. Honestly, I don't know if my heart can handle another BCQ.
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>>3034206
>Heart knows only virtue
>Doesnt father bastards
>Has no carnal knowledge of a woman outside of marriage

Damn, you got me. It's legit not a code breaker.

>>3034207
Haha, sorry I didn't realise farmer was the archaic meaning. No, it seems scummy people and foes.

More specifically, it is individuals that Sir Andrei legitimately believes to be a wicked person (I'll not punish you for merely harbouring suspicious for example). If you were to honestly believe the tales of Duke-Eats-Babies and meet him at Court, you would be obliged to challenge him as you find his presence offensive.
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>>3034243
Note, this makes fostering disreputable alliances tricky as a Thorn Knight unless Sir Andrei believes that his ally was justified in their actions.


And it doesn't necessarily apply to foreigners unless you believe it should.
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I have to pop out for a bit, update hopefully in 3 hours.
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>>3034259

good to know.

>>2988318
>>3001390
>>2988926


i have made the Vekhannos, two shields.

night and good game to all.


since i was one of the two that vote for them (not their creator), i have made 2 of this shields. the others family could just get one ..... or maybe not.
info.

>>3029834
regional descriptions (remember for art // more importantly for possible investigations in quest).
>>3029820
paintings.
>>3029380
House Glasdale symbols and colors
>>3028184
fused heads, waiting to see brown for bear and pale white for undead. it would be neat.


mapbro is ready ? that s good.
lore check it.
>>3031757
>>3031880
>>3032434
>>3033595
>>3033642
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>>3034453
and the other one.
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>>3034176
I really hope that pathetically unfunny pic of yours isn't some sort mocking representation of Christians and Muslims because it's really not accurate. Christians and Muslims literally worship the same Abrahamic God, same thing for Jews. ''Allah'' is an Arabic word that literally means ''The God'' or simply ''God'', even Arab Christians use it in their prayers.


Also, the Crusades didn't start because either one wanted the other to ''renounce'' their God (the correct phrase would be ''renounce your faith, not God''). The main source of the conflict was the holy city of Jerusalem which neither side wanted to give up to the other. The Jews also would've fought to take Jerusalem for themselves from both the Christians and Muslims if they could, but they were simply too powerless and too few to pose any real threat.
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>>3034225
>I also don't imagine it would be chivalrous to hand an untrained and unarmoured foe a weapon and then cut them down In full plate.
Yeah, in that case it's breaking the oath. I was talking more about what would happen if we disarmed an enemy we're already fighting, and he refused to fight back even after we gave him a chance because he's expecting quarter.
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>>3034463
Dude, try to relax. It´s just a meme, it doesn´t has to be accurate. If it were, those filthy ducklickers would kneel before their rabbit masters
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>>3034520
I guess you're right.
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>>3034463
I don t want to be the lawyer of the devil or whatever;

but it seems pretty generic and too simple for be so specific, i think is more on all the religious wars done by mankind .


I mean someone else could say it s protestants against catholics.
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>>3034463
Fuck off and stop moaning montbrunfag
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>>3034463
Shut
The
Fuck
Up
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>>3034571
>>3034584
You two are not helping. Relax as well.
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>QM pops out for a few hours before running
>QM gets hit by a car

Ah, so the QM curse is real. So be it.

Writing up now.
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>>3034600
Are you okay?
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>>3034600
>QM gets hit by a car
For real? I hope you're fine.
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>>3034600
Should we expect a full recovery from the car?
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>>3034600
is the car okay?
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>>3034602
>>3034606
I'm fine, just a few scrapes and bruises.

>>3034611
>>3034621
In my shock and disorientation, I actually did ask the driver whether his car was okay. He of course looked at me like I was an idiot. Is this autism?
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>>3034636
>Is this autism
You have to ask? that's not a good sign
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>>3034636
Don´t let yourself be fooled. The driver was just looking astonished at such godly visage that you mistook his workship with comtemp please don´t let Mikhail die
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>>3034636
>I'm fine, just a few scrapes and bruises.
That's good man. Hope you get a speedy and full recovery. Don't continue questing if it affects your health badly in any way.
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>>3034636
Jesus christ died I was kidding about the car

Are you sure you didn't hit your head? If so I demand you see a doctor in case of a concussion or worse.
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>>3034641
I knew it.

>>3034644
Flattery to provide plot armour to a companion? Nice try.

>>3034646
>>3034647
I'm fine guys, I appreciate your concern. We parted ways and all is well. I was just a little bruised and shaken is all. It'll make for a good story over a beer with the boys tonight though.
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>2 Success
>Tam is driven and will train hard while in Glasdale’s employ, she remains set on vengeance.

”You saw what we faced today, girl. You are not ready.” Tam is clearly upset at your rejection, her dispassionate expression cracking for a moment. But she listens as you continue. ”But perhaps, one day, you might be.”

You are no priest, you’ve no idea whether this unfortunate child can ever recover from the horror that was visited upon her family. Knights like yourself are equipped for battle and leadership, you can offer advice to the girl on what a martial career might entail. If your sisters were here, maybe they’d no how to teach the girl to cope with her grief other than planned vengeance. But they are not, you are.

”I will speak with Sir Glasdale, see whether he will be willing to impart some of the martial basics while you earn your keep.” You make it clear to Tam she is not a squire, or any kind of knight-aspirant, but there are opportunities to even a commoner of a fairer sex if they show some skill with the blade. ”Your options are not so limited in our fair Duchy, Lord Bierre might even take you on as a man-at-arms at Sir Glasdale’s recommendation if you prove yourself. Failing that, bodyguard work or escorting caravans…”

”An’ what if I don’t wanna serve no lord and get fat and soft inna castle?” The girl asks suspiciously. ”What if I just wanna kill monsters?”

”Well… I suppose you could join the Order of Names. They specialise in that sort of thing. And the Langland Freeblade Companies hire all sorts of commoners and accept bounties for monster hunting.” Some Orders allow only nobles to join, many don’t allow women even in Romaine. But the Order of Names have no such scruples, closer to a collection of Rangers than a proper Knightly Order. As for the Freeblade Companies, you remember quarreling with your parents as a child once and threatening to run off and join one of their mercenary bands. Mother near had you beaten black and blue.

You walk afoot with Tam some way and talk of such things at length, by the time you reach Glasdale’s abode the sun has been set for some time. Lady Glasdale has set some sort of welcoming decoration and torches about. You can smell the mouth-watering cooking and hear the good-natured laughter of Mikail and the Glasdale’s from here.

Better still, the baths are ready.

….

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>>3034689

[2/2]

You graciously insist that your host Sir Willem Glasdale take the first wash, but to your delight his wife has prepared more than one tub of heated water and soap in preparation. You and your friend sink into the wooden tubs with a contented sigh in unison, legs hanging out over the edges. A friend aided, a Foe gloriously slain and hot bath waiting for you with a meal soon to come. Truly, this is the life.

You and Willem relax as you wash and talk about many things, from frivolous to weighty. You talk of the philosophy of poets and the priests. Lofty discussions that something the sharp tongues of your sisters somewhat prepared you for. You talk of policitcs. You know his family were Kingsmen to the core, and that he is probably a Queensman if he’s willing to marry the help. You did not realise that he was once staunchly a Kingsman himself, to the point were his family were grooming him for the Roiguard.

Mikail sits on a stool nearby, struggling to wash out the ichor and muck from your arms and armour. He does so with a single-minded determination and elbow-grease, but not a whole amount of skilll. Tam, though clearly keen to stay and help if it means inspecting the weaponry, is virtually conscripted by the loving attention of Lady Glasdale . You find her cooing and praise of ‘Her Knight’ annoying, but you consider whether such a reaction is you churlish. Mixing blood is not appropriate, but she has not actually acted above her station if you’re willing to accept the marriage makes her de-facto noble. Not that Sir Glasdale should have ever married her in the first place of course.

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>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]

>”You should come with me, Sir Glasdale. God, glory and riches. Together we would be unstoppable.” It would not be for long, and Almighty knows a bit of wealth would make his home less… humble. [Hearty]

>”What bid you switch from the Lion to the Stars so sharply?” You find your friend’s drastic switch from King to Queen interesting, especially that he seems reluctant to talk about it in depth. [Haughty]
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>>3034765
>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]

Besides we just said to Tam that Glasdale is going to give her some lessons as she earns her keep.
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>>3034765
>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]
We're not mad at him, it was just a big frigging shock for our dude to witness.
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>>3034765
>>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]

Not being a bro automatically breaks all the Oaths. A guy from the street told me.
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>>3034689
But the Order of Names have no such scruples, closer to a collection of Rangers than a proper Knightly Order.

[WITCHER INTENSIFIES]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY-BvPriIBo

>>3034765
>”What bid you switch from the Lion to the Stars so sharply?” You find your friend’s drastic switch from King to Queen interesting, especially that he seems reluctant to talk about it in depth. [Haughty]
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>>3034765
>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]
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>>3034765
>”What bid you switch from the Lion to the Stars so sharply?” You find your friend’s drastic switch from King to Queen interesting, especially that he seems reluctant to talk about it in depth. [Haughty
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>>3034765
>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]
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>>3034765
>>”I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction. How did you two meet?” While you do not approve of his choices, Sir Glasdale is clearly happy here. You would not entice your friend away from his home with promises of adventure. [Idealist]
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>>3034765
>”What bid you switch from the Lion to the Stars so sharply?” You find your friend’s drastic switch from King to Queen interesting, especially that he seems reluctant to talk about it in depth. [Haughty]
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While the two of you continue to bath and engage in trivial conversation, you come to decision on a delicate topic.

”Willem. I feel I owe you and Lady Glasdale an apology both. I was… indelicate, at our first introduction.” There’s a moment of awkward silence. Clearly he had not taken you for the sort to apologise for your reaction to his breaking of taboos.

”That’s… I accept of course, Emile. God man, you don’t know how relieved I am to hear I still have your friendship, if not your blessing.”

”My friendship? Always. My blessing?” You shrug, hiding your grin. ”Buy me a set of full-plate armour, with a plume, and we shall see.”

”Bah! You and your bloody plumes!” Willem splashes you with his bathwater, sparking a watery splashing duel between the two of you. The battle culminates in a thrown bar of soap that bounces off the chestplate which Mikail was scrubbing and ricochets into an innocent chicken. Only the threat of withholding dinner, now nearly ready, from Lady Glasdale prevented further casualties.

You dry yourself off and give leave to Mikail and Tam to reheat another bath for themselves before dinner is finalised.

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It takes no small amount of self-restraint to stop yourself from attacking the feast laid out before you all as you take a seat at the table in the Glasdale common room. Willem sits at the head of the table, with you and Lady Glasdale on either side. She smiles warmly at your compliments of the fine meal she has prepared, having accepted your apology with a much grace lack of formality as you would expect from a commoner. Mikail and Tam at the other end are still wet from their bath and staring wide-eyed at the food.

It is mouth-watering stuff. Honeybaked apples; Stuffed springtide mushrooms; Hare’s fillet and vegetable soup; Gourmet crispy cheese hogbake. You begin to suspect it was your friend’s stomach that first attracted him to his wife, not his loins. Apparently Willem had sought shelter at farm on his father’s lands during a storm while on patrol, Jinni had just finished cooking a humble meal and offered him sanctuary, her folks away in town for the fair. He found more and more excuses to visit, eventually confessing his love and running away together. You suspect the frequent visits during patrol involved more intimacy than either let on, but you are content to leave the story as it stands.

For a time all conversation is put to one side, everyone chews and munches in contented silence, pausing only to laud their appreciation for the Lady Glasdale’s culinary prowess. Finally, as a roast chestnut and mint tea desert is brought out, you fail to entirely smother an unseemly belch which is loud enough to elicit a treasonous chuckle from Mikail. You flick a lazy eye at him, too content and satiated to be roused into rebuke of your squire.

”Godsgrace, Emile. You fight like the Bear of Andrei and eat like one too.” Willem grins goodheartedly, himself stuffed.

”Not far off in size either.” Lady Glasdale giggles between a mouthful of honey apple, and soon enough the whole table is laughing at your expense. ”I’m just glad I saw Sir Andrei and began cooking for ten men.”

”I am disarmed, undone. This feast has tied my tongue.” You lean back, hands indolently upraised. ”Will my hosts show no quarter in their assault?”

”I accept your surrender, my friend.” Willem laughs, standing for a toast. ”To my good and faithful friend, Sir Emilie Andrei!”
You remember the warmth and good company of that night for the rest of your life.

CHAPTER END

Hopefully I nailed the desired level of comfyness.

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>>3035046
so comfy
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>>3035046
This would have given GRRM's fat pink mast a massive boner if he ever read it.
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>>3035046
It was okay, not enough fried chicken.
8/10 Needs more Fried Chicken -IGN
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[3/3] Knight's Code Skill Vote

The vote is now open, please indicate your preference of which Code Skill you wish to unlock. Note that 'Foe' means a wide variety of opponents from Deadmen to the Wild to Foreigners to fellow Cantonians. If an item or skill is aimed at a specific type, I will make that clear.

I will not be running a further session during the week, I think this is a good place to finish up the thread. I will confirm our next session start on /qtg/ and twitter, but it will likely be sometime Friday 16th November AEST.

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>A Knight is Sworn to Valour
A) Lead by Example: Double DC effect Winning Personal combat has on Battle Progress.
B) Turn the Tide: Winning Personal Combat allows you to re-roll ALL Battle Progress rolls next round.
*You may not flee in the face of the Foe, save by direct command of your liegelord.

>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
A) Flower of Chivalry: Re-Roll all Courtship Rolls
B) Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Path of Adam OR Cain
*You may not be unfaithful to your wife. You may not father bastards, even if unmarried.

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
B) Warform Stance: Double success grant +2 Auto-Damage instead of +1.
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

>His Might Upholds The Weak
A) Shield of the Realm: Re-Roll 1 Failed Armour Save per Combat
B) Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.
*You may refuse no call for aid, honestly asked for.

>His Words Speaks Only Truth
A) Orator: +20DC to Persuasion Rolls
B) Leader of Men: +1 Companion Limit
*You may not speak a lie, even to save your own life.

>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
B) Angel of Death: For one round, damage to Foe is doubled.
*You will neither permit nor abide a villain, nor allow their ill behaviour to go unpunished.
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>>3035100
>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
>A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes

>His Might Upholds The Weak
>Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.
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>>3035116
You only have ONE at this point, thought it is fine to list a preference of some if you like in case of a tie-breaker.
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>>3034954
> ”Bah! You and your bloody plumes!” Willem splashes you with his bathwater, sparking a watery splashing duel between the two of you.

IMPLICATIONS
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>>3035120
If that's so then i'm picking:

>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
>A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
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>>3035100
So for options like this where there's a lot of choice, it might be best to do a "run off" vote where people put they're first choice and a backup choice, with the first choice being worth two points and the backup being worth one. Just a thought.

>His Might Upholds The Weak
A) Shield of the Realm: Re-Roll 1 Failed Armour Save per Combat

It's a high lethality game, so more "health" is never a bad plan.

My second choice would be

>A Knight is Sworn to Valour
A) Lead by Example: Double DC effect Winning Personal combat has on Battle Progress.

How you're feeling okay, and if you have Health Care then you should see the doctor to get checked out. Some injuries can take a couple days to show up.

I mean you're probably fine but it's what we recommend to everyone who gets in an accident where I live because a) we have free health care and b) if there IS an injury claim it helps a lot with establishing the car accident as the cause.
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>>3035100

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.
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>>3034225
>I also don't imagine it would be chivalrous to hand an untrained and unarmoured foe a weapon and then cut them down In full plate.

Holy shit my sides.

>Emile in the field in full plate speaking with a man who made a threat to our companion after stealing our wine.

"An' what exactly in the fuck is you going to do 'bout it Mr. Lordly Knight? I knows you can't kill me, I'm just a peasant with no weapon 'n the leader of the town is my cousins wife!"

Emile "Mikail, sword"
Mikail "Uh sir? You're holding your sword"
Emile "Throw him your sword"
Mikail "Uhh..."
Emile "NOW"

>Mikail throws sword at peasant
>Emile cuts peasant down the moment his hand,outstretched in fear, touches the sword

Emile "... he was coming right for me... god damn peasant scum"

MAXIMUM THORNS
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>>3035155
YOU ALL SAW HIM HE HAD A SWORD
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>>3035155
>HE HAD A SWORD!
>I WAS TERRIFIED FOR MY LIFE
>HE HAD A GUN
>you stabbed him half a hundred times
>HE WAS COMING AT ME FROTHING AT THE MOUTH!
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>>3035179
check the a or b choice's mate
>>3035100
also forgotten are we going see the reaction to glensdale trying to mount the monster head in his hovel
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>>3035100
>>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
>A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
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>>3035100
>B) Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.

RIP AND TEAR EMILE STRONK
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>>3035100
>>3035212
secondary prefrence for

A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
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>>3035100
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
>A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

Breaking armor is nice and all, but it only works if we land hits first.
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>>3035100
>>3033600
Do I have to post my previous posts?

Also with confirmation of Sexy Sway, how do we become a Queensman? Queensguard?

How do we bone a Queen? Has it ever happened before?

When are you introducing Waifus?
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>>3035100
>>3035116
>>3035130
On second thought, i'm switching to this:

>His Might Upholds The Weak
>B) Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.
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>>3035100
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
>A) Blademaster: +10 DC to combat

>>3035155
>You can't kill me, I'm unarmed!
>Aren't you carrying that rock?
>Rock? Er, well, I am, but...
>CUT DOWN WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE
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>>3035100
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
>A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
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>>3035212
Why not have always a +10DC instead of a situational mauls for the enemy?

And the oath is pretty much "do all side quests" like that wasn't going to happen anyways.
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>>3035100
>>3035140

Switching to


>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
B) Warform Stance: Double success grant +2 Auto-Damage instead of +1.
*You may not strike down a defenceless or unarmed opponent.

since nobody liked either of my choices.
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>>3035100
in order of preference:

1
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat

2
>His Might Upholds The Weak
B) Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.

3
>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
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>>3035100
>Still not reverse trap knight.
How many must die.
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>>3035333
because I prefer Emile being a STRONK build rather then a DEXF Build both fluff wise and Mechanically wise.

also your Vow is death by cop heavy and allows Virtue fagging which I'm personally not intrested in but it will happen anyway with the amount of IDEALISM in this game
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>>3035430
But you can only pick one and you just chose damage even.

Classic Dexfag trying to stunblock.
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>>3035452
>But you can only pick one and you just chose damage even.

Yes and? it's not like we can't build into another tree and take it later I find it more approrpriate to build our first skill on our Inherent strength than bladework.
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>>3035100
Blademaster
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>>3035461
> Not voting to increase Poise

Giant Dad is Disappoint.
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Holy shit Forgotten, I'm sorry to hear about your accident.

>>3035100
First choice:
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat

Second choice:
>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes

As for the Anons who voted for Shattering Blow, I'd like if you could reconsider your choice (for purely crunchy reasons) and vote for either Blademaster or Smite Evil.

Don't get me wrong, SB is one hell of a skill. But it's a skill that requires synergy before working properly since it relies on the Dice Gods - we must stack the deck in our favor first. Ideally, both Blademaster and Smite Evil (to maxime chance of damage) should be taken first.
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>>3035100
When does the vote end?
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>>3035470
>poise

nice try dexfag I almost fell for it.
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Hell a car accident ? I hope you are fine.

>>3035100

>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat

Second choice:
>His Wrath Undoes the Wicked
A) Smite Evil: -20AV to Foes
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We leave Glasdale in good terms, fixed a bit Tam (and direct is desire of vengeance) and slayed The Creeping Horror of Grenmire .

Now we have even is head to put as a trophy at home and some of is eggs to sell.


What we do now ?

Go a bit around here (for see if there are other similar beasts near, great risk) ? Back home (someone has plans for deal with the undead ? We can t leave them there) ? Stop one week ? Return on the road ?
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>>3035584
I reckon return to the road and see what we find. Any more monsters or stories that need clearing up, we track them down and win the day
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>>3035584
Go do our vigil in the capital?
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>>3035584
I would support this.
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>>3035584
Supporting this.

>>3035609
A trip to the capital sounds good. We may even be able to pay our respects to the King!
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>>3035609
I'm inclined to agree it gives a bit more of a well rounded approach to what life is like going to be as a knight on and off the field.
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>>3035584
Our Vigil.
We put it off for the sake of our friend, we need to get back to it.
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>>3035699
>>3035723

The vigil ! thats really important for a knight we must finish it.
The fact that Emile will just go around with the head of the insect is fantastic (i m imagine it a bit like the witcher)


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could this dog do for the symbol of the Glasdale ? (obsiouvly modified and adapted)
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>>3035100
>>3035100
>His Blade Defends The Helpless
>Skill A
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>>3035805
an error,

>>3034453
it was a running dog my bad.
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>>3035100
I have to say I am rather torn as they all offer rather good bonuses and role playing opportunities.

First pick would be
>His Might Upholds The Weak
B) Staggering Blows: F's suffer an additional Injury(-5DC) at Injured and Wounded.

But if we don't get that I think would be just as good.
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat

As always thanks for making a rather enjoyable Quest Forgotten.
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>>3035100
>His Blade Defends the Helpless
>A) Blademaster: +10DC to Combat
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>>3035100
>>His Heart Knows Only Virtue
B) Holy Orders: +1 Combat Re-Roll, +1 Path of Adam OR Cain
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Blademaster comfortably slides in there as the winner. Looks like our boy is both skilled and strong.

We'll open the next thread en-route to our Nez to destination. First couple of votes will decide what our goal is and whether we have sworn to complete it.
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>>3035805
I believe Emile is selling off the unfertilised eggs as his part of the reward. Willem is mounting the head up in his cottage (much to the chagrin of Lady Glasdale). As you mention, the head is not a convenient thing to carry around.
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>>3036723
You're right. I misread it as well. I thought we were taking the head and he was taking the eggs when I first read it but it's actually the other way around and that's how we gained 1 wealth.
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Thank anons for enjoying this quest so far. There appears to be a leaning towards standing your vigil at the Church of Adam's Martyrdom in Aubrey.

While this is not a vote, other suitable goals for a fresh errant knight might include:

>winning a minor tourney
>earning the favour of an esteemed lady
>serving a period of time with a holy order
>slaying another formidable monster
>travelling to foreign lands (and doing something of note)
>forming a brotherhood of knights numbering at least half-a-dozen
>successful political management of your family interests at Court
>Assisting Royal Heralds with a royal request
>Joining the Roiguard or Order Reginae yourself

Slightly harder
>winning a major tourney
>courting and securing a marriage to an esteemed lady
>Slaying an extremely dangerous monster
>Completing all Four steps of the Canton Pilgrimage (Aubrey, Fallavon, Pascae and Cathagi)
>Serving in the Dragon Guard (Nova Cathagi)

I should note that this list is not exhaustive. Furthermore, they only grant a Code Skill if you swear a sacred oath to complete them. Not attempt, not 'try'. Failure, even due to circumstances outside of your control, will bring dishonour.
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>>3036796
You play Battle Brothers at all?
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>>3036796
hey forgotten how are you going to deal with maiming(wounded health level) in spars, melee's and tourneys will we be maimed or will the nature of the fight prevent that?
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>>3036796
>Completing all Four steps of the Canton Pilgrimage (Aubrey, Fallavon, Pascae and Cathagi)
This sounds like it could make for some fine adventuring. This would make for the most travel and meeting different people. We could fight foe everywhere we go, possibly court ladies we meet, be at tourneys all while making our way around for this pilgrimage.
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>>3036801
The mercenary turn based strategy game? Shit yeah, son. I think I was even shilling it in BCQ.

>>3036867
Jousting uses a different set of rolls entirely. For melees, we will use Battered 1, 2 and 3 as a three strike rule. Injuries will still occur on a double, but wounds will only be on a crit.
Sparring for training will mean rolling for actually learning from it, not establishing a winner or loser.

>>3036876
It would certainly be as you say. I'm fine with anons completing other oaths in these areas as they make their way across the world.
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>>3036930
Had a feeling. It seemed right up your alley.
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>>3036956
If anything, that game is more unforgiving.
>playing anything other than ironman
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I really want to form a band of knightly monster hunters. Witcher style.
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>>3036796
Why isn't there an oath of poverty?
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>>3036796
>Completing all Four steps of the Canton Pilgrimage (Aubrey, Fallavon, Pascae and Cathagi)
We could do our vigil while we are in Aubrey
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>>3036930
>I'm fine with anons completing other oaths in these areas as they make their way across the world.

If that is so, then we could make a list of the several things we can do in each of these regions aside from visting holy sites.

>Aubrey
1. Stand our vigil
2. Visit the King and Queen
3. Try to convince the King to have Mikail join the Roiguard (We would lose Mikail as a companion however since he will have to serve at least a year, which means we're gonna have to find another squire).
4. Meet Gabriels family and friends
5.Try to advance our house's political interests in the capital, and try to fix what our brother has done (We need to check up on our brother btw).
6. Other stuff (Maybe we could try to find a noble lady worth marrying).

> Fallavon
1. Find the Beastman Craven and avenge Gabriel
2.Look into the conflict between the harsh lords of Fallavon and the Bluejay movement, so we could see which side we fall on (Maybe we can side with neither?).
3.Try to find Gabriel's corpse and send it back home.
4.Other stuff?

I don't really have any idea what we could do in Pascae or Cathagi.
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>>3036796
>courting and securing a marriage to an esteemed lady
Power, money and someone to take care of your home. Of course it will be a long path but it is definitely our best investment .
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>>3037604
Order specific (Knights Comitas), same with others like Oath of Silence and Oath of Restlessness.

I wasn't going to go into those unless joining a holy order came up.
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>>3037868
>tfw path othorns will never happen because Idealism.
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>>3037893
>range ban for IP abuse
>"you are not banned"

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK HIRO IM NOT BUYING YOUR SHITTY PASS.
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>>3036796
All fine choices, but honestly I'm fine with completing Emile's vigil at Aubres and then see what will be offered to us.

Making long term plans in a Quest is often an exercise in futility, sadly.

>>3037893
tbf every Thorn choice so far has been selfishly shitty in the worst way possible. And that's coming from someone who is a Black Prince fag and would sacrifice Kid again if given the chance.
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What are the major Orders in Canton and what do they do respectively?
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>>3038019
The Faith & Politics pastebin in the OP holds the answer to your question, Anon.
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>>3037937
Honestly the path of thorns options shouldn't be simply being an asshole. A good example of a thorns option is from bcq. When we killed the skald chief we had the chance to take his op axe. We have every right to take it and the axe was absolutely powerful.
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>>3038059
to be fair we had every right to take the nag and horses regardless of quality are useful as fuck and we didn't take it because muh Idealism and Tam.
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>>3038059
I assure, there will be some deadset easy thorn choices. So far the pragmatism of being a dick hasn't really had a chance to shine.
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>>3038079
I really hope you won't try to railroad us into picking a certain path choice by offering OP items, and making the other choices complete garbage. It's better to let the choices be picked on their own merit.
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>>3038092
Being good has its price anon and sometimes its passing on the good shit and not claiming the better pragmatic choice.
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>>3038059
That's fair.

>>3038077
Oh yes, shitty horses are so useful - especially when a monster wants a quick snack.

Sometimes material gains aren't worth being a dick. That's all.

>>3038079
I await our inevitable fall with great anticipation then.

Also, Black Company pastebins when?
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>>3038097
>shitty horses are so useful - especially when a monster wants a quick snack.

Any horse is better than no horse, and if you don't want it as a backup you can sell it.
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>>3038096
>Being good
So does being an asshole, but so far all we were offered were rewards for it. Canton is a moralistic and religious country that has a very white and black view on morals, so there should be some social consequences for our reputation if we pick thorns.
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>>3038104
Not to mention that Emile is an idealist character, which makes picking path of Thorns going completely against his character and roleplay.
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>>3037868
We should court a noble lady with huge... tracts of land.
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>>3038104
>Canton is a moralistic and religious country that has a very white and black view on morals, so there should be some social consequences for our reputation if we pick thorns.

and yet you complain about us being potentially railroaded for not it comes off like you complaining that because you are good and righteous there should not be consequences for it which is frankly a shitty way to go about something like a quest.

>>3038106
no your Interpretation of Emile is one of someone who overwhelmingly white knight idealistic I prefer mine to be someone with a sense of Noblise oblige and honour and chivalry being the ideas he aspires to not some ambition castrated Paragon.
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>>3038108
>and yet you complain about us being potentially railroaded for not it comes off like you complaining that because you are good and righteous there should not be consequences for it which is frankly a shitty way to go about something like a quest.

I'm not saying that there should not be any consequences for being good and righteous. I'm just saying that being an asshole has it's consequences too, just like being good does. If picking Thorns means we would just get rewards and no consequences, then yeah it's railroading us into picking a certain choice.

>no your Interpretation of Emile
I'm not interpreting anything. Emile is a an idealist character, there is no interpretation in that. Path of Thorns is complete selfish desire without any care about any ideals, so yeah picking it does go against his character.


If Emile had cynical and haughty, then I would pick Path of Thorns every single time because that would fit his character.
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>>3038122
>just like being good does. If picking Thorns means we would just get rewards and no consequences, then yeah it's railroading us into picking a certain choice.

except the thing about being good is it often doesn't pay off ever not with reputation or loot or anything substantial, it doesn't mean we shouldn't try but if there are no rewards and you want to play a good guy you'll have to live with that.

>I'm not interpreting anything. Emile is a an idealist character, there is no interpretation in that. Path of Thorns is complete selfish desire without any care about any ideals, so yeah picking it does go against his character.

Yes you are, your intrepretation is that Emile's Idealism out shines every other trait or drive he may have and that it should be the fundamental underpinning of his character instead of it synergising with his haughtyness or hearty attitude to life, the path of thorn is don't just a selfish path it is also one regarding due reward and the expections of the duty of a Knight or lord protecting his peasants and the rewards (read privliges) associated with that.

>If Emile had cynical and haughty, then I would pick Path of Thorns every single time because that would fit his character.

he has Haughty think about that when you vote next time and cyncism is for the last goddamn time not the trait that makes a person an asshole.
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>>3038134
>except the thing about being good is it often doesn't pay off ever not with reputation or loot or anything substantial

Nah, not really. Being good increases our repuation and makes people give us gifts for helping them.

>Yes you are
Nah, I'm not. Emile is an idealist character, not a cynical one. There is no intereptation in that.

>your intrepretation is that Emile's Idealism out shines every other trait or drive he may have and that it should be the fundamental underpinning of his character instead of it synergising with his haughtyness or hearty attitude to life
Emile having haughty and hearty won't make him any less of an idealist, or make path of thorns any less antiethical to his idealist character.

>the path of thorn is don't just a selfish path it is also one regarding due reward and the expections of the duty of a Knight or lord protecting his peasants and the rewards (read privliges) associated with that.

That's exactly what selfish desire is though. An idealist isn't doing his duty for the promise of material rewards or for privileges. He does his duty because he believes in those ideals, and pursues them regardless of material gifts or comfort which are irelevant.

>he has Haughty think about that when you vote next time and cyncism is for the last goddamn time not the trait that makes a person an asshole.

Haughty doesn't determine his moral views, it determines his ego and how he acts to different social classes. Yeah, cyncism doesn't make you an asshole. It does however make you not believe in any ideals, which you wouldn't pursue unless for material gain and comfort.
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>>3038103
Ya, but what if the people you try selling the horse to decide to beat the dead horse?
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So, we all know Montbrunfag has a such a narrow and retarded view on character interpretation that everyone must adhere to a white and black caricature.

We also know that we can't have a constructive discussion with him, and we might rustle Forgotten's jimmies further.

Let's end this before we all regret it, yes? Thank you.
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>>3038160
Nah, not really. Being good increases our repuation and makes people give us gifts for helping them.

Or they don't because we are just and honest knight and we wouldn't never take payment for the right action and we are too virtuous for such things

>Emile having haughty and hearty won't make him any less of an idealist, or make path of thorns any less antiethical to his idealist character.

Except for the fact it isn't anti-ethical to anything except your apparent obsession with idealism=paragon when it is as mutable as any other trait represented in forgottens quests and it shouldn't outshine his other traits by dint of being your favorite one.

>That's exactly what selfish desire is though. An idealist isn't doing his duty for the promise of material rewards or for privileges. He does his duty because he believes in those ideals, and pursues them regardless of material gifts or comfort which are irelevant

Yes and those ideals particularly those of the noblise Oblige come with privileges reserved for those who uphold the moral economy that makes the whole system work and those privileges result in physical rewards such as taking a portion of a harvest as a lord and accepting those rewards in return is what makes the whole moral economy work.

Idealism isn't about being a selfless paragon it's about excelling in what one believes and thats a mutable concept especially with Chivalry, Honour and Valor.

>Haughty doesn't determine his moral views, it determines his ego and how he acts to different social classes. Yeah, cyncism doesn't make you an asshole. It does however make you not believe in any ideals, which you wouldn't pursue unless for material gain and comfort.

And neither does Idealism, Idealism denotes his passion and drive regarding the upholding of higher ethics and principals, Chivalry, Divine rights and Bravery are all under this umbrella as are good governance and the quandaries of societal structure, it is not simply a blank cheque to assume it is something you can translate from a 21st century standpoint and go "these are the ideals that Emole should abide by".

You seem to just ignore the entire concept of mutable traits which make up characters forgotten writes which can be interpreted in vastly diffrent ways and can exist in dubious morality.

How you want Emile to act under your assumption of interpreting Idealism is ultimately up to you but I think differently on the matter as I have made abundantly clear.

I'm shelving this discussion on my part but at least think on what I say even if you don't agree with it.
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>>3038187
>Let's end this before we all regret it, yes? Thank you.
What about the horse?
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>>3038204
>Or they don't because we are just and honest knight and we wouldn't never take payment for the right action and we are too virtuous for such things

Sure, but it still doesn't mean people won't offer us rewards for doing the good thing and think better of us, which makes the statement '' being good is it often doesn't pay off ever not with reputation or loot or anything substantial'' completely false.

>Except for the fact it isn't anti-ethical to anything except your apparent obsession with idealism=paragon when it is as mutable as any other trait represented in forgottens quests and it shouldn't outshine his other traits by dint of being your favorite one.

No, it is antiethical to his idealist character. Path of Thorns is complete selfish desire without any idealism for personal gain, which makes it completely against Emile's character. Idealist also isn't my favorite trait, but that still doesn't change the fact Emile has it.


>Yes and those ideals particularly those of the noblise Oblige come with privileges reserved for those who uphold the moral economy that makes the whole system work and those privileges result in physical rewards such as taking a portion of a harvest as a lord and accepting those rewards in return is what makes the whole moral economy work.

Idealism isn't about being a selfless paragon it's about excelling in what one believes and thats a mutable concept especially with Chivalry, Honour and Valor.
That still doesn't chagne the fact that Path of Throns is completely against Emile's character. Noblise Oblige has nothing to do with Path of Thorns since Path of Thorns is nothing more than pursuing personal gain without any moral consideration.

>And neither does Idealism, Idealism denotes his passion and drive regarding the upholding of higher ethics and principals, Chivalry, Divine rights and Bravery are all under this umbrella as are good governance and the quandaries of societal structure, it is not simply a blank cheque to assume it is something you can translate from a 21st century standpoint and go "these are the ideals that Emole should abide by".
Nah, idealism does determine his moral views. Idealist means he will pursue the ideals he believes in regardless of seflish perosnal gain, which makes Path of Thorns completely against his character. That's not a 21st standpoint at all, quite the opposite in fact. 21st century views don't give a damn about any of the ideals Emile's abides by.

>You seem to just ignore the entire concept of mutable traits which make up characters forgotten writes which can be interpreted in vastly diffrent ways and can exist in dubious morality.

There are no ''mutable traits''. That's just a concept you came with to help your argument. Emile is an idealist until that changes.
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>>3038233
>How you want Emile to act under your assumption of interpreting Idealism is ultimately up to you but I think differently on the matter as I have made abundantly clear.
I'm not interpreting anything. Emile is an idealist and Path of Thorns is completely devoid of idealism and is just simple personal gain. There is no interpretation in that.

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The Thorns path is the complete opposite of who Emile is. We didn't choose the "Cynical" traits during the character creation.
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And I don't want a Prince-bis personaly, I was actually rooting for the opponents during the entire Black Company Quest.
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I should point out here that Path of Thorns doesn't just cover self-interest. It also includes ruthless pragmatism, which may be driven by selfish ideals or an ideologue. I imagine it is possible for an idealist to consider breaking less important rules in the interest of preserving more important ones.

Murder a man to prevent a civil war? Path of Thorns.
Sacrifice a comrade to press your advantage in battle and secure victory? Path of Thorns.
Betray an ally to preserve the realm? Path of Thorns.
Seizing rations and food from commonfolk of a rebellious Duchy to feed your men? Path of Thorns.
Taking your just reward from peasantry, offered or not, because it is your RIGHT? Path of Thorns.

Cynical would have led to more self-interested Thorn options being presented, but believe me it is perfectly possible to be a hardcore idealist AND a dick. Just because Emilie believes in a higher set of values does not mean those are at all values that would fly in the 21st century. In fact, one might argue that the worst kind of ruthlessness comes not from the selfish but from the ideologues.
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> mfw Idealist means more 'For the Greater Good' Thorn choices

Though that brings up a question - how was the Thorn Path born, exactly?

I understand that Path of Adam and Cain emulate the actions of their respective patrons, so I'm curious of Path of Thorns has one as well.
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>>3038252
>I should point out here that Path of Thorns doesn't just cover self-interest. It also includes ruthless pragmatism
Yeah, which why it doesn't fit with his character. Emile isn't a ruthless pragmatic. He isn't Prince. I just hope you don't try railroad us into picking Thorns Path by offering op items for it and no consequences for it.

Murdering a man to prevent war means no one with enough power to start war will ever trust us again, because we will just kill them if we see them as a threat to peace.

Sacrificing and treating comrades as tools would make our companions less loyal to us, because why would you be loyal to someone who would treat you as a sacrificial pawn if it's beneficial?

Betraying an ally would make our word mean jackshit, because we will break it whenever we see benefit to it.

Seizing food from a rival duchy would earn us their hatred from both the commoners and lords, and create more resistance to us and more strife.

Taking things from the peasants by force is gonna create hatred to the feudal system and make the people more sympathetic to anti-fedual groups like the Bluejay movment.
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You guys argue a lot.

I guess it's better than being dead though
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>>3038293
My advice is to stop looking at just the rewards of a choice. Every choice has a reward and a consequence. Emile's character isn't set in stone and can be developed as the game progresses. He can make mostly idealistic choices but have a angry hard on for particular people (like Prince with elves) and thus choose a path of thorns option in those areas. Nothing has to be black and white. In BCQ, Prince went from saving Kid from being sacrificed to turning a fellow trooper into a pile of unrecognizable meat. Let the character develop
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>>3038435
>Every choice has a reward and a consequence.
That's my entire point. As long as the Thorns Path choices has actual consequences and just rewards, then I don't care if players pick it or not, even if it goes against Emile's idealist character.
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>>3038454
>and just rewards
Sorry, I meant ''and not just rewards''.
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>>3038454
You think Forgotten would let us go down the path of thorns and not have consequences? My point is even Path of Adam choices will have consequences and Emile's character will develop as we decide what consequences he can live with. I think it's also important to note that the consequences won't always be evident. We knew Prince was on a dark path but how many people actually expected him to become an abomination? The consequence for our greedy choices came later.
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>>3038481
When I say ''consequences'', I mean actual consequences, not just seeing our character go down a dark path like what happened with Prince. I don't really if they will later though.
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>>3038502
>I don't really if they will later though.
''I don't really mind if they will happen later though'' is what I meant to say. I should proofread my posts from now.
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>>3038502
>Prince never getting lewd with the captain not a consequence
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>>3038507
Maybe to those that want smut femdom with some dominantrix, not to me though.
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>>3038514
>complains about choices being out of character
>personal consequences are not real consequences
idk what to tell you anon. I'm out of this one
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I'm going to be honest, it feels pretty good not being weighed down by the phantom of Prince and BCQ when it comes to making decisions as I haven't read it.
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>>3038540
It really isn't a consequence. Prince already did ''lewd'' things with the Captain back in Aijjymad, we just never got to read about it.
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>>3038262
>Though that brings up a question - how was the Thorn Path born, exactly?
spoiler

>>3038545
>BCQ scars
I am a tad concerned that some anons are a little too caught up in how BCQ unfolded. This isn't the same character or setting, so the main message that should be taken BCQ is the same thing we saw with Gabriel in the first thread. I'm not going to coddle you guys, but I also won't go out of my way to ensure you suffer. You're adults, I doubt any of you would be here if you wanted me to hold your hand the entire way.

>>3038293
This is long term (and wise) thinking. But there may come a day when preserving the future existence of the realm can come at the cost of you're standing in it.

>>3038481
>>3038502
There will certainly be occasions where a Thorn option with no visible or significant repercussions will present itself. Hence the temptation.
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>>3037731
>Try to convince the King to have Mikail join the Roiguard
I’m actually a big fan of this idea - he needs to be ready though. No sense having him sign up only to embarrass our family.
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>>3039308
>BCQ
BLACK COMPANY QUEST EPILOGUE FINISHED WHEN
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>>3040048
I'm working on it, I know I'm a shit.
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>>3037874
Good to know about those options though!

I'm now interested in joining an order, indeed.
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>>3040299
Hi! Is there a pastebin with the rules you are using? They feel very neat.
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>>3040299
So with everyone constantly mentioning BCQ and Kid and Saint etc etc I had to go and give it a read. At 40 threads long I wasn't sure I even wanted to start but holy shit mate that was a fucking ride. I binged it non-stop for the past week. Literally stopped participating in or reading other quests so I could smash through it.

No joke that was some of the best writing in a quest I've seen. The pure insanity that went on, the character development, THE CRITS! It was an emotional roller coaster and binging it was hard because of that but so much fun and so worthwhile. Almost every death felt like a loss and some of the ass-pull bullshit we managed with those nat 1's were crazy exciting.

Favourite parts have to be critting the husband and wife at the river, annihilating Snake (god damn fuckin' knife ears), Kid in general, lying about the orphans dying was hilarious and shocking, I loved that shit. Honestly there were too many good parts to list all my favourites. I am looking forward to how this next quest goes (and I hope we can keep it more upbeat as players because holy shit)





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