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Recap:

If the red slayer think he slays,
Or if the slain think he is slain,
They know not well the subtle ways
I keep, and pass, and turn again.
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>>3364276

The world erupts. The ground shakes with impacts, blows given and exchanged. From everywhere and nowhere at once, the twitching un-light of the Gate reflects off the sharp edges of the gashes in metal skin, rents in armor, cracked and splintered optics. There are dull booms, as utter chaos reigns – the fighting swirling around you, fire hammering down from above into the crowd. At this range, this close, it’s impossible to identify friend or foe – corospant sliding and crackling around revenants, limbs shattering beneath the shrieking of blades as they bite into steel.

Gunfire – like rolling thunder – is a contra tempo to the tides of armor slamming together.

Blink. The blurred arc of some industrial cutter, rising and falling, sparks and shredded metal.

Blink. Something lunges at you, from the side – A grease-black maggot revolver spitting burning shots, a gouging hook swinging towards you. The buzzing shots strike the Sinistral’s hissing field with loud, angry cracks, smashing into the burning mantle that shrouds you. You glimpse a name - GRIEF CRAVER – glimpse a chain of leering, cracked helmets slung like a bandolier, heavy footfalls denting deck plating as the carving blow falls-

Your Sword Bits orbit you in furious arcs, mocking gravity as they cut and cut and cut. The hiltless blades are murderous blurs, chopping around their own axis like propellers at maximum rotation – the spinning knife-discs intersect with CRAVER’s form with brutal inexorability, their arc-welder flares shearing through armor and myomer, half-moon sparks raining onto the pitted iron of the deck underfoot.

A limb goes flying, billhook still clamped in spiked fingers.

CRIMSON KLAIVE staggers, his helm cleaved like an anatomical cross-section. You can see something writhe within, something dark like clotted meat, a snarl of vorpal light gathering around his namesake as he wrenches it up to shoulder level. Vapor gusts from the spikes of ice driven into his side, into his back, like streamers of essence-

He has moments left, now. He has to kill you to live, now.

To you, he’s a mere detail. What *truly* matters is the terrible heat you’ve glimpsed, the cataclysmic death-blast about to engulf the entire platform, to incinerate all before it – And Krieger’s looming form, battered but indomitable, one great fist rearing back to wipe Daegal from existence-

The chained wolf’s-head of the ORTHUS CREST chatters, fangs gnashing against the adamant chain forced between the great jaws. Reality flexes, splitting the air around you – Foul winds sucking and screeching, tendrils of seething lightning flickering around your pauldron…

And in that moment of distraction, KLAIVE strikes.

(Continued)
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>>3364277
The air screams as it is cut. The snarled mass of hell-red light around his blade lashes out, a knife-edged shadow. It is a distortion, lashing and rending space with razor tendrils, a churning storm of thorns and barbs surrounding a shearing edge-

As proximate space whirls around Daegal, his gauntlets clawing for purchase, his startled yell swallowed up by the yawning void-

As EFREET’s furious form wrenches into the blistering warp that convulses around it-

Your Crisis Arm pistons forward, and you meet the attack head-on. The full force of CRIMSON KLAIVE’s hatred slams into your augmented gauntlet, lacerations opening up like the scrabbling of furious claws. Seething, knife-edged light lashes out at you, sizzling with immaterial fury – You can feel it eating into drivers of your gauntlet, suspensors fighting to hold it back, industrial talons twisting out of alignment as mechanisms seize up, sparks jagging from your elbow-joint with a nasty crackle.

The air opens up with a sledgehammer thump, a pressure-detonation so fierce that it dents the plating underfoot, drags the smoke from the air. As here becomes there and there becomes here, Daegal smashes down into the molten crater Efreet’s form momentarily occupied. He’s on his hands and knees, his ragged Assault Shroud swirling around him – Blind with the shock of teleportation, heedless of the brutal point-blank melee on all sides-

You have a moment. A moment to see reality bulge and spasm, burning away like filmstock put to the torch as it tears open. EFREET’s brass-bound, white-hot figure spirals out, the filthy ichor of the cracks between reality oozing forth like tar-

Then heat. Terrible heat. Razing heat. It scores out of the smoke, out of the fog, a volcanic blast that blisters the air with a sound like an industrial furnace.

It hits WOLFRAM KRIEGER head-on. It sears into him, through him, vaporizing his central mass, coring right through the interlocking plates that coat his gargantuan form.

The blast is as hot as a main sequence star. It vaporizes armor, carapace, endosteel bone, spine. It annihilates the containment field of KRIEGER’s reactors, the edges of the gaping damage molten with superheating, the cut edges glowing. His body is cored, his limbs thrashing – the light beneath his visor, like eyes going wide, straining, staring, the catastrophic damage all-consuming, total.

KRIEGER’s entrails spill from his ruptured plate. Processing sacs, intestinal augmetics, feeder tubes – All of them burning, burning, as he makes a subhuman noise, almost a squeal, through his speakers. It is a sound of dismay, more than pain – Surprise, then fury, at the realization of his own destruction. To be so suddenly, so irreparably dead.

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The death-blast keeps going. It shears across, at a wild angle – Tearing out of KRIEGER’s side – spontaneously excavating a vast canyon into the deck, the air steaming with metal vapor. With a terrible effort, you wrench your fist to the side – the killing force of KLAIVE’s strike deflected wide at last, the rippling unlight whipping past you like the fastest wind-

There is a terrible shriek. A metal-on-metal shriek, one that drowns out the gunfire, the impacts, everything. It is a sound like the crack of doom, the instant before true disaster.

With awful, ponderous slowness, the weakened platform – fatally undermined – shreds.

There is a sudden jarring lurch, as the ground gives. Sheared through, support beams rip themselves apart, the vast structure buckling violently as everything goes *downwards*. Noise is vibration and vibration is noise, as the giant platform tips, superstructure comets toppling like burning comets into the black ocean beyond.

Howls of dismay. Shrieks of buzzing despair. Like a calving iceberg, the great frozen tree of FIMBULWINTER slides into the churning morass, still raining knives of pelting ice. Each hit is like a bomb, whirling shards bounding out in every direction at once. Black figures – warped, twisted, the angles all wrong – pitch to their doom.

Even now, most Players can’t fly.

A fissure opens up beneath CRIMSON KLAIVE, as the dock folds inwards upon itself like a house of cards. His sword carves the arc in blind arcs, as the tipping point is reached – A gesture somehow tragic and infuriated at once, the wake of the heat-beam leaving a seethe of vaporized metal hanging in the air like a miasma.

“Oh shit, oh shit-”
Daegal can’t, either. His segment of dock falls backwards, tilting ever-so-slowly, spilling clouds of debris – the disintegrating remains of pylon and stanchions falling with it. It seems to hang in slow motion, but it is mere moments from the point of no return – He yells, still disorientated, as more Players and revenants fall into space, tumbling down amid the burning fragments as the only solid ground crumbles further. BONE DRINKER - hooked and desperate - latches onto him from behind, frantic barbs sparking as they scale against his peerless armor, as Kazuya tries to grab onto someone or something-

“Joker-” he manages – Hoarse, his words a frantic blurt.

Help-”

HP: 129.5%
VITAE BOOSTER: 142%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 4%
METER: 19%
ENCROACHMENT: 10%
CARTRIDGES: EMPTY

ENERGY: ERROR
CRUX: ASSAULT SHROUD
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3364281
(Gentlemen, my apologies - Your VITAE BOOSTER should be at 105% instead.)
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>>3364281
>Activate the Argus Sensor and Auspec and target all flying enemy players
>Send the Vector Coms to give Daegal a Jetpack. All five. If this doesn't work, retreive him ourself.
>Smash Klaive's skull in if he isn't dead. Kill Bone if he is.
>Use the Crux to regenerate as much assault shroud as possible.
>Fire as many concussive missiles as possible at flying enemy players or any stragglers.
>BUY WEAPONISATION SOURCE, NOW.

What weapons do we currently have equipped OP?
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>>3364289
(You have PROVIDENCE in your left hand, and all your Sword Bits are active. The platform beneath you is actively collapsing, however.

KLAIVE is some distance away, and is in the process of plummeting to his death.)
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>>3364280
Holy shit op that is metal.welcome back!
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>>3364290
JQOP, can you adjust >>3364289 by having us fire a missile at Klaive first build up meter/booster?

Then
>Send Vector Coms to attach to Daegal or grab him ourselves. Either way, take flight.
>Activate Argus Sensor + Auspex and aim at all fliers. Use Concussive missiles to blow them out of the sky.
>Use the Crux to regenerate shroud.
>Boost the Sinistral in our other hand to level 2.
>Buy weaponisation source.
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>>3364290
Did you make any changes to Golgotha/the system OP?
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>>3364297
Voting for this
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>>3364283
>>3364289
Seconding this.

> Use left over meter to generate Caesar in its holster.
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>>3364303
What if we save the left over meter for smoke out so we can smoke them and stop them from detecting us while we pick them off? Or we could prep smoke out for when we use weaponisation source?
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>>3364281
>Save Daegal, We have a Tempest Scrander and Abruption Jets.
>Powerslide to Daegal with Abruption Jets
>Shoot Bone Drinker off of Daegal. use the Auspex or the Carnifex to make the critical shots that unlatches Bone Drinker from Daegal's back. Joker Airlines can only hold 1 passenger, and that passenger already has a VIP ticket.
>Grab Daegal, get the Vector Coms and Sword bits to attach to Daegal. They'll serve as boosters or a makeshift Jetpack.
>Then Activate Tempest Scrander to fly both you and Kazuya to stable ground. You're going to have to hold Daegal and work in tandem with the sword bits and Vector coms to provide enough thrust and lift.
>>3364290
Also, which direction is stable ground?
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>>3364309
(The Gate itself is mostly stable ground, though the intervening pier is collapsing.)
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>>3364308
Yeah I am ok with doing that first.habing the smoke out loaded gives us more utility plus generating Caesar is a free action so we can do it whenever we have meter.
>>3364309
Amend that so we are attacking the vulnerable opponents as well as saving daegal and I might support it
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>>3364309
>>3364310
Fuck stable ground then. Send the incoms to attach to Daegal; he needs only 5 to fly properly.
Use a missile to kill Klaive and build meter. Use the providence to slice Bone off of Daegal.
Send missiles at everything else that's flying after we trigger argus + auspex.
ACTIVATE WEAPONISATION SOURCE.
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>>3364310
Ideal conditions for our long range capabilities the cqc was really narrowing our focus imo
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>>3364312
Yeah I am for this. Weaponisation source and energy field will be unstoppable with this. Let's get ourselves and daegal left to the gate and destroy the rest of the connecting pier
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>>3364300

(I’ll leave that for next time. It’d be disorientating to make changes mid-fight.)

>>3364289
>>3364297
>>3364302
>>3364303

The sine-wave pulse of the ARGUS SYSTEM lights up the world around you – Your autoreactive talons gouging into the crumbling deck below, as you leap. Your Scrander hurls you through the air like a bullet down a barrel, red particles flaring in your wake-

Kazuya.

You twist towards him, dipping your rising form to bank left – Rolling onto your front, banking hard, a half-dozen forms making their own spiraling ascents-

The slam of missiles into your Triskelion Launchers – the flash and roar of launching rockets-

Concussion missiles streak through the air. The shock of the explosions make the inferno around you whip and jump and spit, and is answered by smaller detonations on all sides, as heat-stressed metal shatters. Red-hot shards of half-molten iron slash through the flames – Wherever they land, they stuck, sizzling. Your Assault Shroud smolders, tiny flames igniting across the surface, the shock waves pummeling at you – Your HUD lights up with alert warnings, the Tempest Scrander fizzling and spitting as it lifts you at a shallow angle-

But that was merely to clear the air. You streak forward like a ground-hugging missile, heedless of the wild shots that hail at you from all sides – You can hear the pounding of something heavy and chain-fed, as BLACK CULL shrieks like a child, lashing out with bright claws, cutting and hewing…

-You don’t have time for this.

You wrench to the side as the ragged-winged shape lunges at you, and PROVIDENCE splits the air in a burning arc. A single claw rakes through your entropic field, frost fuming from the razored hooks – It carves into your side, almost in passing, as your tachyon sword lashes out in a single sweeping blow. BLACK CULL rotates as the searing blade catches it, twirling foul ichor like an out-flung cape – It goes tumbling away from you, with an indignant howl, ceramic plating pinging off your armor like enamel-

And like flightless daggers, all five of your VECTOR BITS lance through the air. Daegal – Half-pinned, beneath the twitching horror that claws at him – has a moment to blurt out “Wha-” as they slam into him, one after another, electromagnets deploying. Gravimetric energies seethe, as thrusters deploy – He lets out an inarticulate yell as he’s wrenched up and into the air on a stuttering fork of fire, fighting to get his gauntlets onto the nightmare Player latched onto him like a grotesque tick.

(Continued)
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right as i'm about to sleep, fuck.

welcome back jqop.

i found some art. this is re: the skyshaper. i know we are likely to not gettit, but damn that mask descriptio sounds cool. here!
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>>3364276
Remember the anti-Trigon program guys

>Weaponisation: Source and the small area should limit his movement options so he can't use Lightning Ride to its most dangerous effect
>Level 2 Sinistral can absorb and then use the Scrander Bolt to increase its own defense to defend against all future Scrander Bolts.
>The Solition Radar of the Carnifex + Forbode mean that all of Trigon's attempts to use his blinding fast speed will result in crippling counters, made more so by using the Crisis Arm to freeze then punish or Providence to pre-empt/unmake + slow/burn.
>The free attack each round will be dealt with by the Carniex's increased output of Entrophy Generator combing with Black Frost's increased output of Entrophy Generator. Assault Shroud + Desparado should take care of the rest.
>His adamantine claws can't break all of our high level gear/we're fast enough to dodge/with Black Frost we heal instantly.
>Crisis Arm/Sinistral/Peacemaker/Providence/Incoms will provide a varied number of attacks so it can't adapt to one set of energy/kinetic and use that against us.
>Trigon will be enhanced by touching Lachryma but if we use Weaponisation: Source, any Lachryma he touches will be trying to devour him and drag him in where he will be immoblised by too much Lachryma as he transforms and get completely devoured or else he'll panic and try to make distance.
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>>3364312

The angle is poor – It’s not enough to lift him across the yawning chasm, not with the hideous weight that unfolds barbs and spines around him.

“Off-” Kazuya spits, struggling.

“Fuck *off*-”

Light ambles around his pauldron. The baroque bull’s-head crest glows with light, as he manages to get his arm up-

And fires.

A powerful linear distortion – vaguely taurian – blasts forth. The recoil, blunt as a grunt of pain, flings him back. It hurls him towards you, before he slams down on fatally-compromised deck-plating; the entire segment swings downwards like a hinge, your Vector Bits firing at near-random intervals, fighting to keep him aloft for just one moment more

A spike finds a seam in his armor, punches through. Daegal bellows. He gets a throttling fist around BONE DRINKER’s throat, and – with all his strength – wrenches.

Vertebrae breaks. BONE DRINKER convulses. A hissing howl, a howl with utterly no humanity in it, buzzes across the channels. Daegal punches RUBICANTE into BONE DRINKER’s helmet, so hard that the trigger guard splinters through the ivory teeth that cluster across the void of his opponent’s maw.

He fires.

The ferocious point-blank round shatters the spined, hooked specter’s braincase in a miniature fireball. Even as the splintered form falls away from him, he slams down onto the slope of the expiring platform, scrabbling for a handhold-

The Abruption Jets punch into your spine, and the static charge flings you across the distance like a missile. You hit the ground at an angle, sparks flying from your heels – Sliding, skidding down the face of it, reaching out for him with a muscle-tearing effort-

The industrial talons of the CRISIS ARM punch into a shattered finial. Your gauntlet vices around Daegal’s, the brutal jerk nearly wrenching your left arm out of it’s socket. Loose debris pings off your shoulders and helm, one hitting so hard it momentary crazes your optics.

Above, the noise of the tumult reaches a peak. Most of the deck is just gone, leaving a jagged spire of iron stuck through with severed rib beams and shorting power lines. There is so much dust, so much fire in the air that thick miasma hangs above it all. Strange, terrible sounds echo within.

"Shit-"

Daegal's boots scrape against the floor that's become a wall, his body swinging above the drop.

Always the drop, the long, long fall into oblivion-

When you look down, RUBICANTE's barrel swings up to meet you.

(Continued)
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>>3364329
AUSPEX now. See through the storm. Plasma Vulcans, Booster them and shred everything inside.
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>>3364335
One of our arms is occupied with daegal. Best switch the incoms to blaster mode to make up for the lose of one cannon arm
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>>3364329

Daegal’s finger clamps down on the trigger. The kill-markers etched into RUBICANTE’s surface glow red-hot-

But you twitch your head to the side, and the red-hot shell roars past with a sound like a volcanic eruption. It slams into the form that looms above you, a form with a helm like a twisted snarl – the hellish whirl of the entropic shot crumpling that leering grotesk back upon itself, as the entire figure pitches past you and into the pitch-black ocean beyond. Flames roar up through the open neck of the blazing armor, from the furnace of the torso.

Something without a mouth screams as it falls.

“Oh God,” Kazuya’s saying, static rasping from his speakers as the Colt Python dangles loose in his hand. “Don’t let go-”

As if.

Your Tempest Scrander sputters to life, as you haul him up. Strength stings your limbs, the Vitae Booster’s filaments pulsing with hell-light. There is so much Essence in the air, it swirls around you in burning motes, drawn away as if by the fastest wind.

[ ] “Since when did you get this heavy?”
[ ] “Nice shot.”
[ ] “Next time, *tell* me before you do that.”
[ ] “I’ve got you.”
[ ] “Hold on, Kaz. Hold on.”
[ ] “I think that’s the last of them.”
[ ] “We need to get out of here, and now. The whole place is collapsing.”
[ ] Free

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3364339
"You are starting to get the hang of it."
"I think there's only Trigon left. Let's try to get out before he finds us. Also, the ceiling might be falling."
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>>3364339
>Since when did you get this heavy?
>Nice job, you really saved our asses with that control frame stunt. And you said I'm crazy.
>Good shot but warn me first next time.
>I've got you. We need to get out of here now. I haven't seen Trigon at all but he was meant to be approaching.

If we can attach the vector bits fully to Daegal, do so now. If not, turn them into cannon mode and have them look for Trigon/any attackers. Check on the gate to see if it's fully charged yet and, if not, if we have anything to spend on energy.

What's our health/assault shroud/booster looking like OP? Any level ups?
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>>3364347
>If we can attach the vector bits fully to Daegal, do so now.
Maybe we should give him the Scrander once we have time.
Having us both be able to fly might be worth it.
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>>3364348
We can't give him the Scrander and use it at the same time but once we get him to the Hollow Sun, who fucking knows what could happen?
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>>3364348
>>3364350
Please don't, we've already lost 2 relics with level investments.
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>>3364339
>Free
Well done Kaz, just keep it up and we will be home in no time. I am gonna drop you by the gate reinforce it and defend it to the death. I am gonna squash the rest of these maggots now.
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>>3364353
I don't want to give him our Scrander, I'm saying he can make his own at the Hollow Sun.

Here's a question lads; do you think we'd still have the Cestus if we chose to keep the Athame in us?
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>>3364339

"Geez. Been putting on the defense upgrades? Its good. We need to get ready for the next wave - LIKE HELL we're letting trigon follow us through the portal when its ready.

Do you think you could get this place to talk to the sun while the connection's still opening? We could really use the red comet right about now... or figure out how to take all the old-man's work and designs with us.

Did you lose your sword?"

>YOU HAVE CONTROL

Take stock of damage, see if we can't use the Weaponization we bought to make platforms/fighting places -we- control. FIgure out what relics we lost, if any - Snag the Condemner if its blade got wedged in a wall or something.

THEN, check out the doorway leading in - make a push/break out, recon what else is about to hit us. How far away is the death mark, and can we use the deathmark on trigon to target codebursts without seeing it?

>>3364350
I'm gonna agree with >>3364353 Try not to waste relics!
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>>3364356
I think its the consolation prize for giving up being an undying, unstoppable rape machine.
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>>3364339
>[ ] "I got you."
>[ ] "Pull on my arm and yourself on the count of three: one, two, Three!"
>[ ] "We need to get out of here now. Place is collapsing and having 'danger casual dialogue' will do us no good."
>[ ] Don't idle. Get your Vector Bits and Sword bits firing simultaneously in-sync to push Kazuya from the brink and onto stable ground.
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>>3364357
Actually, has Daegal even leveled up once yet?
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>>3364344

> "You’re starting to get the hang of it."
> “Since when did you get this heavy?”

“Is – aaarghhhhh – is this *really* the time…?” Daegal manages, as your Scrander coughs at your back – A surge of intent, and your VECTOR BITS unfasten from him, locking onto your jump pack like pinions. Particles fume, the white light of the thrusters pushing you skyward – You clear the edge of the collapsing platform, lifting into the air at last, to see-

“…Holy *fuck*,” Kazuya says, as he sees more and more of the platform tear free. The backward slide is accelerating, metal shrieking on metal – hurricanes of debris, of smoke, whirling around you as you fight for more altitude, Tempest Scrander and Vector Bits burning as one…

For a moment, you think it must’ve sustained some damage – But no, gravity itself has been warped. Essence spirals around you, drawn inexorably to the riling, half-real shape of the Gate as it takes form.

>>3364347
>>3364348

> Nice job, you really saved our asses with that control frame stunt. And you said I'm crazy.
> Good shot but warn me first next time.

“I didn’t – I wasn’t thinking, I just had to get him away…Oh God, there it goes-

With a terrible groan, the shredded lip of the deck lets go, too – It collapses downwards, as everything you were standing on, fighting on, gives way. More and more of it disintegrates, rubble and massive shards sliding off into the gulf-

> I've got you. We need to get out of here now. I haven't seen Trigon at all but he was meant to be approaching.

You focus. TRIGON’s marker is out there, just beyond the great double-doors. On the other side of the emerging chasm, you see the ragged shapes of the reavers falling back from the drop. By some miracle, enough of the dock remains, the area cleaved into two halves – You’re on the right side of the abyss, the side nearest the gate.

No. Perhaps it’s not a miracle, after all. This was built to last.

You look up. The weird profusion of weaponry that bristles from the writhing spires have fallen silence – Occasionally, a heat-beam or burning mote spits through the smoke, but they’re unfocused, firing fitfully or at uneven intervals.

Something’s not right. You try to access the link-

Feedback carves through you, and static flares across your field of vision.

Why-

“…Shit,” Daegal rasps. He sees it before you do, as your boots alight onto the iron ring that surrounds the emerging Gate – the only solid thing around that ever-shifting mesh of Lachryma and arcane mechanisms. Somehow, somehow, in his death throes, WOLFRAM KRIEGER must have damaged the control surfaces – they’re half-melted, crumpled, the pedestal that holds the Joker’s Memory canted at an oblique angle.

(Continued)
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>>3364365
>Somehow, somehow, in his death throes, WOLFRAM KRIEGER must have damaged the control surfaces – they’re half-melted, crumpled, the pedestal that holds the Joker’s Memory canted at an oblique angle.
Fucking hell. Why does it always to be this dramatic?
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>>3364365

He scrabbles forward, along the narrow circumference of the great steel ring – It’s about ten meters broad at its most generous, the fathomless drop on all sides. Corposant flickers overhead, as Daegal sinks to his knees next to it.

“Joker, I – I think…”

“-It’s damaged, but…It’s holding together. Somehow. It’s still working, but another hit like that…”

Overhead, the shield flickers – Uncertain, failing.

>>3364357

“I’ve got…” Kazuya reaches for the holster at his side, as if only now aware – the swirling hypersphere of the Vector Trap disgorging the Condemner’s hilt into his hand. He clutches it to his breastplate like a talisman, the fingers of his free hand clenching RUBICANTE in a deathgrip. Smoke rises from the barrel, in lazy contrails.

Within him, his auto-loader cycles. He reaches out for the pedestal, flinches back as sparks spit out at him.

“I – I don’t know. I don’t know how it’s even working at all. Whatever’s happening, I’m not doing anyth-“

Daegal falters, falls silent. You hear it, first – Other sounds, deeper, bigger sounds. Vast, echoing booming noises, quite at odds with the chatter of the Gate, a murmur behind the hiss and spit of industry. The shield distorts everything beyond it, as the gears and mechanisms overhead seem to slow-

And then it accelerates. Cogs spin, as it roars to full life. There is a cackling hum. Wild lightings snap and flicker and buzz overhead, the clattering roar and movement enough to make Kazuya flinch.

The great doors – Far, far away, separated from your perch by the widening rift – wrench open at last.

(Continued)
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>>3364375
Time for a showdown
https://youtu.be/JrD8cLVHgWc
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I don’t remember the past couple of threads, it feels like years. Are all of our waifus still dead and crippled?
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>>3364386
The time for waifus is over anon.
Now's it's a suicide run to save existence from the white and black jokers.
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>>3364386
yes. Hectate's dead/coma. Mio is dead from High school chaos, and Natsumi/Chrome Cypher is MIA.
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>>3364386
Who cares?
We are taking a stroll through hell with our best friend. We need nothing more.
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>>3364375

An army looms on the other side. Twice the size of the first wave, in shades of arterial red and bone-white and all the colors of nightmare. You see banners and symbols thrust high, bearing the heraldry of the insane.

This is what happens when thoughts curdle. When a mind, left too long in the dark, begins to eat itself.

“More of them,” Daegal says. “Oh God, there’s more-

At first they are just shadows, shapes, holes in the field of light. But not for long. Not for long enough.
Sixty – Sixty or more Players. Armor stretched and splayed over pulsing slabs of myomer muscle, wrapped in ragged strands around hypertrophied limbs, around arms become thick and branching, arms that end in cleaving talons, in in-built blades, around legs that end in hooves, in a dozen blade-tipped points, in vast splaying roots of flesh, in circular pods with a hundred fronds waving in some unknowable pattern, around helmets that bulge with eight arachnid eyes, with fractal insect eyes, that end in the worst imaginable fusions of metal and not-quite-flesh…

VOIVOID is leading them.

There is a shape with him. A huge form, bent and twisted. A form still humanoid, but only just so – Surgeries have been conducted, where carapace plating has been wrenched off. Steel spines have been driven home into joints, into myomer-muscle groups, lifting from the wretched shape’s shoulders like a barbed crest. Each one is tipped with a tiny, glowing glyph.

Riftspikes. Pain-inducers.

The name flickers in your field of vision, even before you see the glistening black armor, like an insect’s exoskeleton.

QLIPPOTH TRIGON

EXEC_HARROW burns, like a beacon, on TRIGON’s gorget. The tortured shape moves its head, utters a low groan – Fluid running from a gaping maw, glassy optics blink-clicking. Bio-liquids dribble from QLIPPOTH’s wounds, like stigmata. Welding scars criss-cross what you can glimpse through the shambling thing’s beetle-black armor, augmetic devices implanted in helm, torso, throat. They look less like weld-marks, and more like open, weeping sores.

Your symbol flickers a little brighter. You can feel the agony that blisters the air, like a palpable force, as it staggers forward. Thick shackles drag from cadaverous limbs.

“-”

Kazuya tries to say-

But VOIVOID is looking at you. Directly at you.

The worst thing of all are VOIVOID’s eyes. They are like pits, like holes into abject nothingness. The frozen, gilded mask of his face cannot move, and yet you can feel the awful, hungry ennui that beats at you. A desperate gnawing that has long since outstripped any hope of being satisfied.

Whatever he has seen – whatever he has done, down, down in the infinite black – lingers, like an imprint of concentric, lightless horror.

Until now.

(Continued)
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>>3364403
Take out the Logos. Buy Weaponisation Source.

Kill. Them. All.
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>>3364358
I think that, if nothing else, this fight has proven Joker's still an undying and unstoppable rape machine.
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>>3364407
Jesus Christ this this !!
>Activate the carnifex too. We need to be ready for the lightning strike off of trigon
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>>3364407
>>3364411
Yeah, please activate the Carnifex before we take out Logos. Fire the Familiars and Cannon Bits. This is going to be a slaughter.
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>>3364403
Isn't this a perfect situation for fusion annihilators or the railgun?
Just draw a line over the entire army.
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>>3364431
But I want to fire the BRRAAAAPPP gun.
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>>3364403

“T-they can’t-” Kazuya says, half-turning, his voice almost a plea. “They can’t get to us-”

He’s right. There are no fliers. There’s no way that the army can get across the chasm to you.

But you see what Kazuya doesn’t, even as the CAESAR slams into the holster at your side. Even as the CRUX seals the rents in your armor, new vitality pulsing through your ever-reforged plate.

Every one of the nightmares has a gun.

>>3364407

The hypersphere whirls around you, the LOGOS’s fluted alien shape emerging-

Daegal sees it, first. “Don’t-” he says, his fist clamping down on your arm. “Joker, don’t-

Somehow, somehow, he manages to wrench his gaze away from the army of horrors. “This close to the Gate, the feedback-“

A flicker of premonition-

Down.

“Wha-“

One of the reavers – withdrawing in ragged order – has a hand raised. Speech buzzes across the distance, inaudible at this range.

A Parasite Rifle fires.

The reaver explodes at the waist, and collapses.

Muzzle flashes light up like starbursts down the ranks of Players, punching heavy shots into the returning mob. A shooting blitz begins – Rounds exploding in the tattered ranks, beams of smoke-light ripping through them. Maggot revolvers spit death, Seeker Gun payloads shattering plate in a hail of toxic splinters. There are worse weapons, too – A swarm of burning gnats, gouting arcs of flame, radiant filth spearing forth in howling lines as reavers fall, split open, incinerated, sliced in half.

It’s a massacre. A slaughter. The blitz of gunfire hurls bodies back, mangled and scorched, blasted and burned. They go down, scythed through, scads of blackened armor flying, the furious shots still retaining their velocity as they slam into the faltering shield. Figures are mown down, ripped apart by the fusillade, spattering the ground with ichor and chips of splintered metal – the sounds muted, distorted, through the enveloping field.

(Continued)
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>>3364431
>>3364434
Logos would be better. The fusion annihilator would ahve to be charged to max to take all of these guys and not only will the Logos disrupt their communications, it'll fuck up any attempts at CODEBURSTS and cause insane damage.

We have the shield to block long range attacks.

Fly into the air, gravimetric suspensors + carnifex to use the LOGOS, charge and F I R E.

If we have any energy left, WEAPONISATION SOURCE NOW. Sink the rest into turrets.
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>>3364411
>We need to be ready for the lightning strike off of trigo

Actually, fuck, i had a plan for this. It was... ugh. months ago. think think think.

Gimme just asecond, it should flow back to me.
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>>3364435

“Shit-!”

Overlapping hexagons, an interlocking fractal pattern, fills your vision. Fortress Mode – Daegal’s barrier flung up around you, as he flinches back-

But unlike before, the inside is transparent, like a one-way mirror. Unlike before, you can see *through* it.

“Fucking *hell*-” Kazuya swears – “Holy shit-”

“He’s killing his own men-!”

[ ] “No. He’s planning something.”
[ ] “Stay down. They’ll be coming for us next.”
[ ] “What did you mean ‘the feedback’?”
[ ] “Wait – You used your new level on this?”
[ ] “He’s got TRIGON with him. He’s been waiting for this.”
[ ] “Their weapons can’t get past the shield. We don’t need the barrier.”
[ ] Free

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3364446
Was it
>>3364325
?
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quick question. what is logos?
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>>3364450
[ ]He's planning something. All he needs is himself and Trigon. Lets end this before he has a chance.
[ ]They'll be coming for us next. Cover me.
[ ]You used your new level on this?

OP, what's our Health/Meter/Shroud like right now?
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>>3364450

(Gentlemen, my apologies - An addendum.)

HP: 149.6%
VITAE BOOSTER: 166%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 94%
METER: 37%
ENCROACHMENT: 22%
CARTRIDGES: EMPTY

ENERGY: ERROR
CRUX: ASSAULT SHROUD
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE
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>>3364451

No, actually.

It centers around the crisis arm, and getting in a solid one-three set up punch in melee. Condemner and sininistral to actually survive the dance to set up the kill shot - but its prelude, and planning to take a few hits for the ske of winning.

what was it...
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>>3364450
>But unlike before, the inside is transparent, like a one-way mirror. Unlike before, you can see *through* it.
This sounds like a yes to the "did Kazuya upgrade anything?" question.

>[ ] “What did you mean ‘the feedback’?”

>[ ] “No. He’s planning something.”
>[ ] “Wait – You used your new level on this?”
"I hope this isn't the only effect of your upgrade."

"We need to disrupt this somehow. I assume he wants to collect their essence."
Send in the sword bits to at least draw some essence into our direction.
Also, use the Orthus Crest to switch up their ranks. Try to get one of the heavy hitters into a denser part of the fire.
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>>3364452
https://pastebin.com/C5ZkTYqY

Bloated with echo chambers and psychosonic resonators, the LOGOS is a grotesquely large weapon, one that barely seems capable of having been conceived by a human mind. With rows of amplifier clusters lodged amid overlapping layers of curving alloy, the LOGOS bears a striking resemblance to an instrument of grand design, weaponized for destructive purposes.

When fired, the LOGOS unleashes a high-yield sonic blast, powerful enough to distort local physics. While the LOGOS's effect is focused in a broad line that extends - for a considerable distance - from the user, the blast is actually twofold: the harmonics generated are in utter, irreconcilable conflict with a conventional existence, reacting violently with the substance of reality, and are actually as harmful (if not more destructive) than the pressure blast unleashed. Use of the LOGOS utterly scrambles all forms of communication in the area, extending to Codebursts - Depending on the complexity of the Codeburst, there's an escalating chance of a catastrophic failure of some kind.

While hardly a subtle weapon (the LOGOS's discharge can be heard from at least a full mile away), there's a momentary warning before the LOGOS fires - It becomes impossible to communicate in the area about to be affected by the weapon's cacophony, which potentially gives targets the chance to evacuate.

Notably, the LOGOS has severely deleterious effects on the fabric of local reality. The weapon bears an integrated failsafe, preventing it from firing once conditions are less-than-optimal. However, this failsafe can be manually disengaged. Due to the intricate nature of the Relic's construction, the LOGOS is relatively fragile - It is highly inadvisable to fire the weapon in rapid succession, or when the Relic is damaged. In fact, there are strong arguments to suggest that it would be highly inadvisable to fire the LOGOS at all.

The LOGOS is a superheavy weapon, requiring both hands to fire.

(PRIMING: 20% ENCROACHMENT and 30% METER. One shot per round.)

>>3364457
Okay, in that case, activate the gravimetric suspensor, fly straight up and make distance from the gate, activate the familiars and fire the Logos. Tell Daegal to cover us/fire on anything that gets close.

Once we fire the Logos, equip the Carnifex. We *cannot* let them finish whatever they're planning.
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>>3364461
Addition: Cast EXEC_SWARM. It would be quite appropriate here.
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>>3364464
(The Gate's about to warp the two of you out. The field-envelope only extends to the immediate vicinity - i.e. People standing on it.)
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>>3364464
This, plus let's use or familiars and incoms for distraction and harrassment. Tell daegal to bring up his neutronium shield to protect the jokers memory and it's pedestal , this is the first time we are using logos max protect the memory!
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>>3364469
Sounds like we should assassinate.

Can EXEC_SMITE target through transparent objects, like Kazuya's shroud fortress?
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>>3364460

AH! here we go.

>c) CRISIS ARM:
>When empowered by the VITAE BOOSTER, the Crisis Arm’s zero-point energy field can be expanded to momentarily engulf a target in contact with the Relic, temporarily rendering them subject to directed gravimetric effects. This allows for the free manipulation of seemingly impossible burdens, but only for a moment – Pillars can be hurled like spears, massive enemies flung into (or *through*) buildings, or huge components can be ripped free in a single terrible effort.
>The CRISIS ARM may also be duplicated by the Emulator Module.)
> The copy has all the properties of the original, but does not require additional charging elements or further expenditure of Meter/VITAE Booster to wield.

>(tl;dr - Changing weaponry is now a free action.)

Here's what it was:

Plan Skeet.

Do whatever needs to be done to air launch/straight up shoryuken air-toss Trigon -

and beam magnum the shit out of him midair. As long as we have the vector trap not used and the crisis emulated ahead of time, we can use it as a counter/surprise maneuver: the emulator because we get double the gas money from a grav-launch: the second enhancement is free like a two for one special.

i like this because Trigon indeed is fearsome - but on the ground. Getting him off it and hitting it with our strongest weapon is the best plan, because as paradoxical it may be, he got to be dealt with fast.
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>>3364469
In that case, use the ceaser to fire 6 Phalanx Chain Mines at them.

If we can't do that, equip 2 Chagans, have the sword bits become cannon bits and load in 2 silver cartridges.
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>>3364469
>(The Gate's about to warp the two of you out. The field-envelope only extends to the immediate vicinity - i.e. People standing on it.)

are we about to fuck everything up by using the wrong weapon at the wrong time?

Because this 'one vs army' sound a lot like 'use Full Bore Beam Magnum' time.
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>>3364474
Trigon can fly.

The TRIGON grants the following abilities:

- At will, the host of TRIGON can manifest a ten-foot wingspan, allowing the wielder to fly at a natural speed of over a hundred miles an hour. When the TRIGON's primary function (Lightning Ride) is activated, the host can fly at objective speeds of slightly over a *thousand* miles per hour, with near-perfect maneuverability. Further, the cortical enhancements of the Relic enhance the wielder's perceptions, allowing the host to move, evade and react with blinding speed.

It's worth noting that while the lightning wings can endure the tremendous stresses of flight at these incredible speeds, the user cannot - Hence the reason for the extensive (and mutilating) modifications in order to use the TRIGON.

>>3364478
We can't use the Beam Magnum, the Joker's Memory is currently charging the Gate.

>>3364450
Can we use the Beam Magnum yet?
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>>3364477
There's one thing to ask:

Gentlemen, why AREN'T we using the Beam Magnum and ceasar?

>>3364473
Hilarious. I approve of Exec_smite to killsteal the essence out of Viviod's kills. Fund it.
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>>3364477
Let's give daegal the logos so we can keep that primed while we go at them with the Caesar and the chain mines
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>>3364484
>>3364482
Anon please read comments before you start commenting jeez
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>>3364484
We'll do as much with either 6 chain mines + cannon bits or else dual chagan and cannon bits.

>>3364473
I suggest we save meter + booster so we can buy some silver cartridges and use 2 absolute zeroes to kill anything not destroyed by our initial firestorm.
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>>3364484

> Gentlemen, why AREN'T we using the Beam Magnum and ceasar?

(The Beam Magnum's energy source is currently being used to power the Gate.)

>>3364457

(Gentlemen - My apologies, but it's a work night. I have to turn in for now, but rest assured I'll continue as soon as I get the opportunity. Good night and God bless.)
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>>3364487
Daegal just told us LOGOs would fuck the portal.
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>>3364494
>I suggest we save meter + booster so we can buy some silver cartridges and use 2 absolute zeroes to kill anything not destroyed by our initial firestorm.
We are sitting behind a barrier, waiting to be teleported.
If we drop the barrier, they might be able to damage the portal.

That's why I want to use options that work even behind the barrier.
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>>3364503
>>3364500
These seems like prudent words of advice to heed.

Also not leaving the beam magnum behind.

>>3364491
haha, there's a lot to catch up on. Chill!

thanks for clarifying things, that good old info coming in as you post problem.
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>>3364503
The barrier's been modified so our shots go through it now, like all the other barrier upgrades. I don't see Exec Smite being enough to kill either of these guys and we can simply move out from behind the barrier or smash a hole out through the back.
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>>3364500
Daegals a noob anon, we taking noob advice now ?? It's a nuclear option anyways hence why he give it to daegal so he can boost it
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>>3364450
>[ ] “What did you mean ‘the feedback’?”
>[ ] "He's killing his own men to upgrade himself and a super heavy weapon to destroy the gate.
>[ ] "And he's sending TRIGON to distract us."
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>>3364511
>Daegals a noob anon, we taking noob advice now ??
His unique trait is literally "understands Red World machinery on an instinctual level".
If he's warning us, we better fucking listen.
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>>3364450
WHY is he trying to kill us so badly? The gate is literally the only way home. Doesn't he even care about that?
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>>3364512
>[ ] “What did you mean ‘the feedback’?”
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>3364519
He has a lot of quality of life improvements, too. Like the ability to apparently see a Player's real identity in armor.
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>>3364511
>>3364519
Not only that, reading Logos' description makes it clear it's not a subtle weapon. If we fire it on the platform, it blows everything to shit. If we leave the platform, we miss the teleport.

Since the barrier is a one way mirror now, I still think Ceasar + Phalanx Chain Mine + Cannon Bits are our best bet and allow us to save up 2 absolute zeroes next turn. If that doesn't work, dual chagans instead of ceasar.

>>3364522
I think he's Koichi.
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>>3364477
Supporting the fusillade of chain mines approach. It’s the fastest way to killsteal an entire army and deny Voivod resources.
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>>3364527
>>3364519

Yeah I will second this. I see that now is not the time for logos
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>>3364450
>[ ] "He's killing his own men to upgrade himself and a super heavy weapon to destroy the gate.
>[ ] "And he's sending TRIGON to distract us."
>Put away logos
>[ ] "Thanks for the warning Kazuya"
>Pull out everything else and start shooting to build meter and ramp up the firepower.
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>>3364527
>I think he's Koichi.
I don't see any sword stuff about him. Koichi is a hard sworder.
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>>3364732
Bruh do you not remember how Vovoid was introduced? He has a Gates of Babylon where he stores swords and we've only seen him use swords/his mechandrite gates of babylon thing.
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>>3364276
>If the red slayer think he slays,
>Or if the slain think he is slain,
>They know not well the subtle ways
>I keep, and pass, and turn again.
I think this is the Black Joker speaking.
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>>3364744
Yeah but Koichi is a sword monogamist, not some degenerate philanderer.
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>>3365263
He also isn't a psychotic Reaver but after we killed his Hyades in front of him, and apparently murdered a part of his soul, who knows what he had to do to survive? The last sane thoughts he had cursing us, destroying his own sword and abandoning the Apex Blade and the Tri-Stars.

Daegal even said to us Koichi will try to murder us, that he'll never forgive us. Seems like a perfect fit.
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>>3364923
It's a poem.
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>>3365737
From who's perspective though? It's been mentioned the Black Joker 'sings'.
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>>3364450
well, that round could have gone better.

>“No. He’s planning something.”
>“He’s got TRIGON with him. He’s been waiting for this.”
>Can you open an aperture in this?

emulate a second fusion annihilator begin charging from the vitae booster 3 or 4 charges should do it. stagger the blasts into two seperate actions. using vitae booster FA allows us to sweep it across the gathered forces. they have nowhere to dodge to, and the secondary arcs will hit practically everyone, probably multiple times. a 3 charge FA also has much less back blast than the Logos.

If trigon uses his shroud to shield them the first blast will deplete a fuckton of shroud perhaps allowing the second to get through.

More likely trigon will shield himself and Voivod leaving them mostly unharmed.

use the vitae gained from slagging the minions to load 4 silver cartridge.

all trigon or Voivod have to do to follow us through the gate is get close enough, we can't assume the fights over just because it activates.

if Deagal has access to all the basic hollow sun weaponry it might behoove him to grab a positron sniper rifle. the guaranteed critical from behind a see through fortress mode could be amazingly useful.
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>>3364527
he is in no way what so ever koichi he has none of koichis armor hallmarks.

koichi is clearly waiting for us in the hollow sun having used his access to get there ahead of us. By now the entire thing is probably rigged to explode along with anyone who retreated there. RIP tristars
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I didn't know this was back.

I need a moment to process things, as I have absolutely no idea how to approach this situation. Voivod Is clearly planning something, but I don't know the best way to stop him.

I do remember SMITE targets by sight, could we just let a blast rip right In the middle of them? Can a fusion annihilator stay deadly at this far of a range? We might just try and slag everything and hope for the best.
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>>3366082
As it stands we probably cannot deal enough raw damage to cripple or incapacitate Voivod or Trigon in the next few turns.

most likely Voivod is going to have Trigon build a bridge out of assault shroud, or build it himself using orichalcum wire akin to a higher level deagal.

before that happens, most of those 60 players need to be dead.

fortunately Joker is really good at alpha strikes.

I would argue against Smite unless we cast it from the Nihil sphere, and even then I think it's a misappropriation of resources at the moment. The only reason to use it would be in case we want to go full tilt against Trigon and try to kill him THIS TURN. Even then, it's an attack that allows a dodge, and he can instantly move akin to abruption jets so it's a wasted action most likely.

Voivod has orichalcum armor meaning he is impervious to effects like transmutation, and he has a high damage threshold that doesn't denude He might not be able to dodge, but he can tank a truckload of damage.

so, what should we do?

I would argue that murdering the scrubs first thing is the best course of action.
dual vitae Fusion Anihhilators, cannon bits, free action to switch to Ceasar and the chain mine launcher with argus system.

the big question is what cartridges to load. chrome would cost less and let us use smoke out. both deagal and joker have an argus system so they can see just fine.

silver is more expensive, but also more versatile. And Black Frost might be super necessary. Personally I would go chrome and save up for silver for when we use the carnifex.

thoughts?
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>>3366603
Fusion Annihilators would take too long to charge and won't do as much damage as 6 chain mines or the two plasma chain cannons.

Black Frost will be wasted as we can't close to kill them; we're being warped out in a turn. Better to fire a fuckton of Void Missiles at them instead. The goal is to lower the enemy population to beneath the amount Vovoid needs.

I think >>3364527 has the best call with loading silvers to use Absolute Zero or just to save them for later.
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>>3366020
Of course he wouldn't have his armor hallmarks, he's in an entirely different armor. Who else uses swords and would hate us that much? Who else suddenly disappeared from the story out of nowhere? Who wandered off into the darkness that we were never able to find?

He's either Koichi or Spiral Gigante and I'm pretty sure Gigante is Naoya.
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>>3366935
Naoya's White Joker. He literally transformed in front of us!
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>>3366938
Yes and Spiral Gigante would be his old identity before he put on the WJ armor.
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>>3364744
>>3365286
>>3365263
Koichi being Vovoid doesn't work with this theory:

>>3364525
>He has a lot of quality of life improvements, too. Like the ability to apparently see a Player's real identity in armor.

Just to throw it into the discussion.
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>>3366935
literally nothing in this post makes any sense.

firstly, koichi doesn't have a monopoly on swords, secondly he has never been made of orichalcum, thirdly he had no way of arriving in the black, fourth Voivod has been here a long time the narrative has said so -repeatedly-.

As for the white joker, Naoya received the white joker armor from Mikogami. Mikogami died years before the quest even started proper. ergo, Naoya has always been the white Joker for the duration of the quest.

If your just trolling, then it's the "I was pretending to be retarded" kind.

>>3366796
FA's charge faster when boosted by the vitae booster, they also kill players in one shot, something the plasma vulcans just cannot do.

chain mines are a great idea, but I think we might have time to do both. We certainly would if we activated the carnifex after discharging the FA's, but I'd rather keep the carnifex in reserve until a real oh fuck moment.

also, we might not be leaving directly next turn. The gate is close, but we have no way to know how close.

honestly our best bet may have been to just regenerate assault shroud and throw up a fortress mode when deagals breaks. But that feels wrong somehow.
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>>3367080
>fourth Voivod has been here a long time the narrative has said so -repeatedly-.
The Black works on a different timeframe, don't forget that.

Same for the orichalcum thing - all kinds of shit could have happened off-screen. JQOP tends to make background characters experience their own adventures while they are out of sight.

But yeah, Bishamon is far from the only sword frame (wasn't the term gaunt-class player?), even if he's one of the most capable ones.


>also, we might not be leaving directly next turn. The gate is close, but we have no way to know how close.
I'm wondering how we'll get back Joker's memory if the teleport happens automatically. Getting to the pedestal with the right timing doesn't sound possible.
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>>3367104
I haven't forgotten the black hole like time dilation. It's the only reason I have hope that we can salvage the situation.

But even with all of that Voivod certainly isn't koichi. he doesn't hate us for one thing. He's just driven to murder us by all consuming boredom.

That said, Bishamon is far from through with Anon. which is a god damn shame, because killing him won't bring me any joy.

Presumably the memory will detach or teleport with us. Have faith in JQOP. After all, Kazuya just used Rubicante. Unless a relic is specifically damaged , stolen, or destroyed we can likely recover it.
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>>3367051
There's nothing confirming he can actually see a Player's real identity in their armor. I don't even know where people got that from. He recognises Anon, his gf and Tortenz.
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>>3367080
>>3367104
>>3367196
Vovoid does hate us.

>And he is laughing. Laughing, in a hideous fluting voice that turns all of him into a mockery, a paen to nothing good.

v͠oivod i̸ ͝am̕ i̷ am͠ vo͞i̴v̷oḑ v̨ ͜fór ̡t̸hȩ voi̷d̢ ͝th̀e̵ scr̸ea͡ḿin̷g̴ ̛mou̴t̕h ̸ţhe͠ ̀a͘bs̨o͘lut̛e ͟ze̴ro ̵
͡òh̀ o̕h oh̶ ͢w͝a͢it̨ed̛ ͢wait̸ed fo̧r ͢y̶ou f͞ou̕nd̢ ͜you fo̸u̶nd ͠ýou ͝jo͡k͘e͜r jus͘t̕ b̨e̸g͞gi͟n͢g b̛ęgging ̵t͜o ̨be̡ bu̴r͝nt͜ and͞ tor͜n ànd̴ The words are not vocal. Their meaning reaches directly to your brain, like burning venom, like a cudgel to the back of the skull. You hear Daegal make a sound, as if he's trying to retch into his helmet, trying to throw up-f̧įlthý ̶ba̡gs òf s̸ti̵n͢k͘i̷n̴g ̧mea̵t̸ ͞filth̡y̧ ͘f͡il͝thy ̶o̵h su͝c̨h͜ ͠f̧i͜lt͝h̶ ̡a͠ll ͝of̛ ̷y̵ou
"-make him stop-" Kazuya's voice crackles over the Dirac channel, as he clings to his steed like a lifeline.

It's not about Koichi being the 'only' one but he's lost a part of his soul. Anon was almost dying when we lost Cybele. Koichi was gone for a few days in the Real and we've spent a few years in the Black on this little jaunt straight through it. Not only that, there seems to be hundreds of Players in the Black, enough that they can be used as resources. If Correctors can leave the Black and enter the Red, the opposite should be true.

He clearly has a personal interest and focus on Joker that goes beyond just the ennui what with that laser like focus when he appears and Koichi is one of the few players with the ability, drive and lack of restraint to do what you'd have to to become the Daegal of the Black.

As for the Joker's Memory, it's probably going to be transported with us. It's what seems to power the Beam Magnum or is at least involved with powering the Beam Magnum, to some degree.
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>>3367226
the zalgo speech was an ability similar to megumi's cicatrix, or a previous red joker's cackle. If you haven't noticed from the hollow sun upgrades player abilities tend to fall into similar "channels".

And even if there was more to it, nothing he said is directly related to hating Anon. He's been waiting for a Joker so he can fulfill whatever twisted plans have spawned in the dark aeons. And Koichi, when we meet him again, is going to have an -intensely- personal grudge.

Voivod is more likely the previous Deagal. After all there had to be one otherwise Argent wouldn't have known about him, the Armor of Midas wouldn't be known about, etc.

And yes, Voivod IS focused on Joker, but not because he hates him any more than he hates everything else. He probably wants to leave the Black so he can skull fuck virgins in the real. regardless, he doesn't seem anything like Bishamon.
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>>3367226
>>3367257
Guys, you are forgetting that we just walked through a battlefield with remains of Red Joker's involvement.
Most likely Voivod was either another finalist or maybe even one of the original beings that existed in this world.
He talks about filthy meat. This might be madness or this might indicate that he genuinely existed as a player form from his inception.
He might hate the Red Joker because there's history there. Maybe he fought multiple incarnations of Jokers or maybe he even knew the first one.

The finalist armors have to have come from somewhere. Red Joker destroys players and White Joker creates them. But what created these two in the first place? It's possible that the first set wasn't even human and the armors were only passed onto humans in the second generation.
If that's true, Voivod might have been the original, alien, daegal. Remember, the Hollow Sun contained the Midas Armor, so I wouldn't be surprised if, maybe, a Red Joker took the Sun and Midas armor away from him.
Or maybe Argent Providence's endgame plan, which was likely intended to make him Daegal, involved stealing the Midas attribute from Voivod - with the help of a Red Joker.

Just streaming my consciousness into this text window.
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>>3367257
It represents madness and corruption. Megumi's Cicatrix was a cursed artifact, and corrupted people have the same jumbled text.
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>>3368519
Vovoid's the only Reaver who's expressed it so far.

>>3367257
>>3367305
There probably wasn't a Daegal last time and Daegal's armor resists Orichalcum. Look, it's clear that Vovoid has a personal grudge against Joker because you don't say 'Joker' to just introduce yourself to someone; he'd have said something like "THE RED JOKER, AT LAST!" But he also doesn't seem to be too concerned with Daegal. If he was a previous Daegal or he just hated things generally, we wouldn't get the eye murder fuck that he gave us just now and he'd be directing some of his focus on Daegal but he has *only* focused on Joker except for that time Daegal stepped in to defend us.

Realistically, he's either Kouichi or Spiral Gigante. They both disappeared from Joker's life suddenly and hated him a ridiculous amount. I'm leaning Kouichi because Spiral Gigante probably wouldn't know we were Frost Cestus before and Kouichi always called Joker Joker. He seemed to prefer to Anon-kun even.

The finalists work like this; Red Joker, White Joker, Chalice Queen, Daegal and the wielder of the Fatal Abyss. Last cycle it seems like some slots were missed as the Chalice Queen and Phantom Edge died early while the Red Joker and White Joker had their duel on top of that gate thing.

I just don't think JQOP would focus on Vovoid as much as he is if he wasn't someone important. He loves old faces coming back under new forms. He loves bringing back errors we've made as actual enemies. I don't think you'd have this very directed form of hatred focused on Joker if it wasn't due to a personal connection between the two that goes beyond armor.
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>>3364450
What about a NIHIL boosted Smite?
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>>3364527
Can we add Auspex to this to see where the essence from those dead players is going?
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>>3369069
I am voting for this idea if it works. Additionally we can use terror sight with the rail gun or axanel to attack the target if it is out of sight and well protected
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>>3369088
>Additionally we can use terror sight
No.
Just fucking no.
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>>3369221
This gate is going to get us home. If we can one shot the machine or player who is gonna harness the essence with terror sight we should take it. Nothing besides that which can damage the gate should be off.the table anon especially against a snake like vovoid.
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>>3369228
>This gate is going to get us home
It's taking us to the edge of the underworld, not to the Real.
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>>3369248
>>3369228
Well hopefully it'll take us to the Hollow Sun first but no fucking way are we going to the real before the White and Black Jokers are dead, are you kidding?
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>>3369249
it has been explicitly stated what will happen. First the Gate will activate, and everyone standing in close proximity (probably the ultra durable iron platform) will be whisked an inconceivable distance to the edge of the wasteland. from there an exit can be made by fighting your way up through a corrector hive as Anon did prior to the story. Finally you emerge into the real in a particularly shitty spot.

>>3369041
>Deagals armor resists orichalcum
.... Deagals armor is MADE of orichalcum.

realistically he cannot be koichi. More likely he's one of the people who were trapped with Anon the first time he wandered the black wasteland. Or a previous Deagal.

there are about a thousand reasons why koichi can't be Voivod, but the biggest one is that he didn't even fucking know the Black existed! And even if he did, Bishamon would never settle for being an insane reaver king. He would grab whatever he thought he needed to kill Joker and then relentlessly journey back to the real alone like the pseudo-samurai he is. Further, you dont see everyone from Seisen High here, so -only- Anon and Deagal were swept into the black.

If that weren't the case we would have opened with a fight with Pazuzu and Phantom Edge.

You might as plausibly claim that he's Utopia Rules, because that makes the same amount of sense.
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>>3369781
So where is Bishamon? Most likely he used his access to make a beeline for the Hollow Sun, walked up and started a full 150% terminus upgrade, suffered through it, then started preparing to murder the Red Joker.

If tyrian survived, then Bishamon might even have convinced/coerced him into hacking him access to the relic vault...

going to the Hollow Sun first thing might be a truly bad move
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>>3369781
Literally no one has said what will happen; the Marshall said the beam magnum could take us to the edge of the world and the Nihl Eye could take us further. We don't know where we'll end up if we use the Nihl sphere, if we'll go to the Red, the real or just elsewhere in the Black. He didn't use the Gate to escape the Black or help Anon escape, he used it to go directly to the Black Joker.

*resists Lachryma. Unless it's here in the Black anyway. Again, if he was a previous Daegal, he'd be more interested in Daegal but he's focused on Joker. Only two people are really unaccounted for at this point who totally hate our guts and have been absent for long enough that they could have accumulated this level of power and that's Spiral Gigante or Bishamon.

If Bishamon going back to the real to hunt down Joker was true, he wouldn't have 1. thrown aside the Apex Blade and his own broken sword, he would have used them against us and 2. he wouldn't have completely disengaged from the Real and disappeared. If he wanted to hunt us down with the tools he already had, he wouldn't have thrown aside what he was using. Instead, what we know about Kouichi before he finally disappeared was
>The guy who he feared and constantly worried about but also became close to him killed the love of his life and a part of his soul
>He abandoned all of the weapons that had been a part of his Bishamon identity and abandoned the Tri-Stars.
>He went
>He disappeared before the black rain so completely that no one in the real or the Hollow Sun's scanners could find him.
>The Black is where the barely alive, the dregs, the remnants and the pieces left behind go.


Seisin High's zone of exclusion - the boundaries of the alien city of Arcadia - are not set in stone. There is no clear delineation between the real world and the next, only blurry discomfort, only the dull shock of transition that departs as quickly as it comes.

Volt Regios' regal cloak flaps in the rushing wind, the bruised sky of the Red churning overhead. Here, reality is worn and tattered, like the fabric of an old cloth; there is a sense of impermanence to the world around him, like the haze of a half-remembered dream. Destabilized, cast adrift - Barren except for the faintest signal, the pulse of the icon Regios wears.

Not the Joker's icon, but an older one. That, alone, is reason enough for Regios to risk the treacherous passage; striding onwards, despite the unease that spreads cold fingers of doubt through his mind. He is close, now - Close to wherever Bishamon is. The streets of the barren city, before the iron towers of Dis, are empty; the skies dark with the coming maelstrom, Regios' boots crunching against gravel.

What he sees stops him in his tracks.
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>>3369900
>The Apex Blade is buried - Point-first - in the ground, the crosspiece of the hilt casting a slanted shadow against the cracked cobblestones underfoot. Placed beneath it, in the shadow of the valley, as red light lifts like lava from the horizon-
...are the fragments of an emblem, cracked cleanly in two.
Place side-by-side, it is possible - just possible - to make out how, once, they formed the mark of three black stars against a field of white.
And at last, Regios begins to understand.
"Joker," he whispers. "Joker-"
"...what did you do?"

And finally, Daegal's comment on the whole situation.


>"And you - And *Kouichi*-"
The Vitruvian Device's atonal moan shifts an octave. Tiny filaments, infinitely fine, etch circuit-patterns across the surface of the black metal, fanning out from Daegal's fingertips.
"An - *Joker* - he's going to kill you for that, you realize? The next time he meets you, he's going to *kill* you."

And finally, to give you an idea of Kouichi, this is how we responded to losing our Hyades.

>A shudder races through you. The world spans, sickeningly - A sensation akin to nausea, a bone-deep sickness that gnaws into the very core of your being. Like what you've felt before, at Alura's hands...Except it begins deep within you, the myomer fibres of your form cording in an involuntary spasm-
Your Emblem - Cybele's Emblem - is burning. You can *feel* it - a slow-building ache from your pauldron, flowing down to your forearm - and it doesn't *stop*, like the nauseous fascination that comes with shock at a spreading injury, as wisps of emerald light bleed from the lines of the crest. The world begins to blur at the edges-
You know what this is. You know what's about to happen.
A rasp from deep within you-
Something wet and black drips from the mouth grille of your helm, thinner than oil, thicker than blood, hissing like acid as it falls to the stone. You're on your knees - a greasy blurt of static flaring in your sensors, your gauntleted fingers digging into the ground, scraping deep furrows-
You're cold. Cold, even though you shouldn't - can't - feel anything. The screech of your armor against the roof echoes, each time your form gives another shudder in time to the faltering pulse within you; You can't seem to-
Black.
Pain. A haze of it. You can hear sounds - Ragged, choking, feral - sounds that are nothing like speech...
There's something in your left hand. Grey, pitiless, gripped so tight you can feel the scarred crimson of your plated fists beginning to dent and deform around it

And from the last thread
>(For she was still your Hyades, and when she died, part of you died too, forever. Part of you was severed - quivering, between the brutal teeth of the vice - dragged into the places beyond, where you could not follow.)

We had the Athame, he had nothing. These are not the actions of someone who is going to return to the tri-stars or is going to use his previous identity against anyone else.
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I dunno if you're still reading this thread, JQOP, but do you mind if I ask how you come up with names?
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>>3369900
Bishamon threw away the Apex blade because it was a gift from Anon. As such it represented the bond between the two of them, as did the tristar emblem.

he was ritualistically severing ties to his past so he could focus entirely on revenge. Because, in his opinion

no one is arguing that Bishamon doesn't want to murder Joker. that's fucking obvious. the point is that he isn't VOIVOD. the only person VOIVOD is, is VOIVOD.

And here's a small list of why. Bishamon had no way to access the Black, even if he did he wouldn't have been here for the centuries VOIVOD has because while the Black dialates time it doesn't allow time travel and thus at most Bish would have arrived 50-70 years ahead maybe less.

on top of that Bishamon would certainly have fucking mentioned -why- he hated anon, but VOIVOD hasn't mentioned anything about revenge.

on top of THAT, Voivod looks nothing at all like Bishamon, and as we saw from the interaction with proto-deagal and the helix gauntlet orichalcum doesn't change the fundamental appearance of what it bonds to. Even Kazuya has an appearance that is mostly ripped off from the Red Joker because there wasn't another template to use.

Tl;Dr it is chronologically impossible for VOIVOD to be Bishamon and he acts and looks nothing like Bishamon.

of course since you cannot accept that your pet idea is wrong your going to say Bishamon stuck around and was caught up in the temporal storm from the leukocyte while disregarding that even if that were the case he -still- wouldn't have been able to cross the shroud into the Black. And before you start the ixuon fight proves that objects or people displaced by tachyons briefly exist in their new earlier timeline. Thus Bishamon was not warped to a time several days earlier.
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>>3370319
actually, on the topic of the Black. AFAWK the -only- ways to get there are the Joker's Memory, possibly using the Nihil Sphere to make a gate, or doing so much damage that you rend the fabric of space/time asunder. The last is specifically something the beam magnum can do. possibly other super heavy weapons like the Logos. And almost certainly a property of the awakened Fatal Abyss.

likely most of the people we see here were brought here by the white or red jokers.
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>>3370345
My Interpretation of this Is that this hell Isn't so different from what one might think of hell, and that dead players really do arrive here.

When we kill someone, how do you know that some vital piece doesn't slip beneath the Red, and Is born again as a shade of themselves In the Black? Furthermore this place seems to connect to more than just *our* red, judging by the Nazi players. Seems too vast to be something Isolated around just the Jokers.
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>>3370405
deleted a long post about the nature of the Black, but here's the just.

The Black Joker can copy the dead and transmit them via Lachryma. We saw that with Bardiel and the Silencers, and the Amalgams, and even Akira himself who was implied to have been made.

Alura also had the ability to manifest those who were dead.

However, in both cases the product was deficient or lacking in some fashion.

insane as they are our opponents certainly do not lack for vitality. In fact one can make a compelling argument that their vitality itself is what is so at odds with the Black that it drives them insane. Not merely sensory deprivation, but a desperate reaction of the soul rejecting the antipathic nature of the Black Joker.

From this we can tenuously conclude that the players trapped in the Black are alive.

As a fun aside, flinging them into the Lachryma below is literally feeding their souls to the Black Joker.
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>>3364453
>>3364461
>>3364477
>>3364478

> [X] “What did you mean ‘the feedback’?”

You look down, as missile pods cycle up on either side of your spine-

Blink.

A halo of filthy light flickers around you. For a moment – Just a moment – you can see flashes of endosteel skeleton through your armor, like sporadic X-rays.

The world seems to stutter, for an instant.

“-op it!” Kazuya is saying, urgent now. “The *entire field* is reacting-!”

You can feel it. Taste it, almost. Lightnings flex, splitting the air around you. A charnel-wind moans, as tendrils of yellow lightning flicker around the shield-bubble. For a moment, you feel fragile, made of paper, less than real.

“Look!”

You follow his pointing hand – Reality is beginning to bend around you, around the Gate. The arcane mechanisms are beginning to gouge through the membrane of space and time, throwing wide a door to-

…To where?

It’s like a vortex, swirling over. Smaller than the one that brought you here. Less controlled, less stable – But a doorway all the same.

A way out.

A mutter seems to pass through the army on the other side. A murmur, a surrusation. An insect drone.

“-What are they waiting for?” Daegal says – the pavise of his Assault Shroud still raised, a wall within a wall. “You think they’re just going to watch us-”

> [X] “No. He’s planning something.”
> [X] “Stay down. They’ll be coming for us next.”

And as if to put your words to the test-

The first shots streak across the distance, and slam into the field envelope. At this range, they’re ranging shots at best, desultory at worse. Jags of sullen lightning writhe across the field, raining down around you – It’s like being inside a plasma globe, glowing conduits feeding the writhing drives. The Gate’s mechanisms twist and warp upon itself, jutting upwards into the vaulted space in a grotesque thrust, wreathed in forks of electrical discharge.

“They can’t get through,” Daegal mutters – It’s equal parts hope and prayer. “They can’t – Can they?”

You don’t know. Waves of light play across your armor, as Daegal holds his gauntlet up – Lightning passing, effortlessly, through gleaming orichalcum. “This stuff – It’s an overspill. It’s not *quite* here-“

Lachryma gurgles. Strange, spidery script etches itself in the air, in twisting glyphs.

Impasse.

(Continued)
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>>3371782

The field envelope seems to constrict, a shimmering membrane drawing taut around the gate. It’s like being inside an observation sphere, cut off from the world around you –

But for how long?

The Crux pumps strength through your limbs. The rents in your armor seal over, the way a smile slowly fades. Your tattered Assault Shroud flutters around you, odd highlights dancing over the overlapping hexagons of the nanomaterial shell, as your photonic mantle sheds fragments of crimson light.

There is a KA-CHUNK, as your autoloader racks – A silver cartridge locking in place. Another.

Daegal hovers at your side, his hand gripping the hilt of the Condemner. He’s positively wringing it, now, as writhing lightnings dance overhead.

Not much longer-

You sense, instinctively, what he’s trying to say. The Gate’s field envelope seems to roil, to churn, patient sparks cising across the control surfaces of your armor, across the barrels of your weapons. If you fire, here and now – You don’t know what might happen. The shield’s supposed to be permeable from this side, but if it isn’t…

There is a groan. A deep, dragging groan, a rattle of chains. Something being dragged forward, with a rasping scrape. The initial commotion amongst the army has died away. They stand stock-still, now – gazing into the distance, with their weapons in their hands. There is no sound except the hiss and spit of the field, and that terrible, dragging groan-

Kazuya sees it first, as the bulky shape – A chassis – is dragged through the ruins of the doors. You see clanking chains extend from it, an ugly, leaden bulk scarred by lacerations and gutted by flame-

“Oh,” he says. “Oh, *no*. Joker, that’s-”

You see it.

It’s a siege ram. One of the war-machines from the forgotten war, from the last siege. Like a giant centipede, meant to dig scything talons into the walls, a ramp for the attackers to charge up. This one is half-broken, now, the lower half twitching in a spastic fit, but they’ve given it new life. You can see the stripped-down wiring that coils along the shell-like carapace of overlapped armor, the single superheavy weapon that extends up from the dorsal mount.

Did they drag it down here? Did they take it apart, and reassemble it here? Either way-

Code spirals across your primary visualizer. The air distorts, subtly, in your HUD – Coordinates bleeding into existence, as you target the machine itself. A swathe of dirty cables – Like branching arteries – are vaguely visible, as it grinds forward on vast, clawed wheels set on cantilever arms-

And EXEC_SMITE explodes across the *inside* of the barrier.

(Continued)
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>>3371801
>And EXEC_SMITE explodes across the *inside* of the barrier.
God fucking damnit Daegal.
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>>3371801

“Shit-!” Daegal flinches, as phantom colours flare. The blast – a plume of half-visible flame – spills along the curve of the field-bubble, in a blast that shakes the great iron ring underfoot. Flickers of energy, dark and unhealthy, flare like troubled synapses out from the disrupted area of the Gate’s shield – But it holds, though odd harmonics echo in the unreal light.

A sense-memory – An odd, bitter taste, as coloured bursts writhe and flicker across the Lachryma-infused structure behind you, as it compensates for the shift-

And then the siege ram opens fire, with a deafening, prolonged blurt of noise. The barrel vanishes in a cross of muzzleflash, fast-cycle fire drumming out – Weaponry of that calibre is mean to shatter masonry, to bring down walls. Streams of explosive shells slam into the barrier, auguring rounds punching more distortions into the field envelope – A jumping lick of fire dancing across the surface, with a shuddering reverberation that you feel in your very core. Even muted, even warped, the sheer intensity of the gunfire is deafening; the lethal blizzard of rounds hammering into the barrier, as the siege ram begins to extend itself across the distance, over the void.

The immense bulk hauls itself forward, wheeled claws digging in – the pugnacious blitz of fire near-constant, now, bursts of flame skittering across the wavering surface-

You can’t hear the roars, the cheers, the savage ululations that must be there, as the first of the army swarms up the extending ramp. With so many bodies, they seem like something dark and liquid, like blood – something that runs and drips, swells and flows again, like blood down a dagger’s spine.

And VOVOID – casually, like he has all the time in the world – takes his first steps forward. His cloak of blades deploys, fanning out around him in a galaxy of razor-edges and spines. The glyphs of QLIPPOTH TRIGON’s riftspikes glow, and the tortured figure lurches after him, with staggering, shambling steps.

His gaze never leaves you.

“Joker-”

Daegal’s stance never wavers, but his gauntlets tremble. His shoulders stiffen.

“-There’s a *lot* of them-”

[ ] “I know. Be ready.”
[ ] “I see them, Kaz. We’ll have to meet them as they come in.”
[ ] “Can you reinforce the shield?”
[ ] “How long until we’re out of here?”
[ ] “See if you can fix the controls. If we can get the guns working-“
[ ] “No. This can’t be it. Something’s not right.”
[ ] Free

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3371801
>And EXEC_SMITE explodes across the *inside* of the barrier.
Seems like "line of sight" is a relative term.
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>>3371828
>[ ] “How long until we’re out of here?”
>[ ] “See if you can fix the controls. If we can get the guns working-“
>[ ] “No. This can’t be it. Something’s not right.”
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>>3371828
(Gentlemen, my apologies, formatting doesn't seem to be working for me.)

HP: 167%
VITAE BOOSTER: 0%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 150%
METER: 26%
ENCROACHMENT: 6%
CARTRIDGES: SILVER CARTRIDGE (X2)

ENERGY: ERROR
CRUX: ASSAULT SHROUD
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE
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>>3371830
I think "line" is the keyword? We never had to cast it through something like a window before because the Red is a shithole.

Though right now it seems like we're absolutely fucked because we can neither run nor gun.
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>>3371834
[ ] “How long until we’re out of here?”
[ ] “No. This can’t be it. Something’s not right.”

Assault Shroud is full, switch the Crux over to Vitae Booster.
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>>3371828
>>3371834
>Boost the Vitae Booster with the Crux
>"See if you can get those controls working. Do you still have the destier control frame we can use?"
>"This can't be it. Something's not right, this feels like a distraction. They're moving too slowly, they aren't worried about the gate. Use your Argus scan now, we need to check for them." Use our Argus scans + Auspex to look scan the room for where essence is flowing, if there are any hidden enemies approaching.
>Take out the Nihl sphere to scan for any hidden enemies
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>>3371848
Don't we have those Lanterns that show invisible enemies?
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>>3371835
Also how probable is it that Vovoid's true goal is hitching a ride with us, -then- killing us, then murdering his way back to the Red? Like I'm not sure how difficult it is to discern what we're up to.
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>>3371854
That does sound familiar but I don't remember if it's something we have access to right now.
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>>3371848
>>3371854
>>3371869
>These ever-glowing iron lanterns cast a cold, pale-white radiance, an unearthly light that illuminates the immediate area - And in particular, Players. Regardless of how they might be concealed, Players - or other entities with Essence signatures - within the corona's radius are seemingly lit up from within by astral tracers, making it nearly impossible to move unseen while within the bounds of the lantern's illumination. Notably, Correctors (and other non-Player entities) are pained by the light of the LUMEN, and prefer to stay beyond the lantern's range. (However, larger or more malevolent Correctors may risk the discomfort, in an attempt to kill LUMEN's bearer.)

LUMEN bears a secondary, more insidious use - Instead of illuminating the area, the lanterns can produce a cone of cold radiance that cannot be perceived by anyone except LUMEN's holder. This spectral radiance retains the Player-illuminating effect of the primary function.

It appears that these Relics were produced, en masse, in order to hunt down Players who might otherwise have evaded pursuit. Interestingly, the LUMENs are immensely durable, and can sustain a surprising amount of punishment before being rendered non-functional.

You're right, they're called Lumen. OP, can we change using the Argus sensors to taking out a Lumen and using it to light the battlefield? It might also piss off Typhon seeing as how his player signature's all fucky.
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>>3371833
>>3371844
>>3371848

Your words seem to snap Daegal out of his fugue.

“I – I don’t *know*,” he says. “It *has* to be soon – It has to be *any moment now*-”

But will it be soon enough?

> Assault Shroud is full, switch the Crux over to Vitae Booster.

A throb, a pulse that reverberates through your form, over the hammer of gunfire. Overhead, the point of contact glows like an arc-welder’s flare, sparks spraying. Your VITAE BOOSTER – the orb dull, inert – begins to swell with crimson light, as the first embers are kindled within it.

>>3371854

The lantern – You reach for it, as the pale light washes around you, filling the immediate area with that eerie glow. Nothing – Nothing *inside* the field with you. There’s something oddly soothing about the radiance: Within the zone of illumination, the fitful lightnings cease their constant writhe, the air clean of the weird arcing loops of electricity.

> [X] "See if you can get those controls working.”

“I-”

Go.

Daegal scrambles away. The void yawns on either side, but it doesn’t slow him in the slightest: For one treacherous moment, he stumbles – haste making him clumsy – but he corrects himself, his boots clattering against the span of iron below. At least it gives him something to look at, besides the oncoming assault.

> [X] “No. This can’t be it. Something’s not right.”

Yes. They’re moving *too slowly*. Even if they can sustain that rate of fire, they’d only destroy the Gate. And the moment the siege ram breaches the field envelope, they’d make the perfect target for your weapons. With those shuffling forms packed in close proximity, dozens would die.

So why-

Wait.

A disturbance gathers around VOIVOID’s distant form. A power, visible mainly in how it makes everything else less real. You’ve seen that power before, even wielded it – The ripple of distortion that comes when something like the Fusion Annihilator is unleashed, as reality warps like a fever nightmare-

There is a wailing note. A squeal, like a finger on glass.

And, without any warning at all, the air fills with blades.

It is as if the entire high-vaulted space of the chamber has been filled with knives, with swords slashing in every direction at once. With lashing, knife-edge distortions, like a cutting edge extended to infinity. There is a huge spray of sparks from the walls, flashes in the abrupt churning darkness – the air thrashing, like waves driven by an ocean gale.

“OH SHIT-!” Kazuya now.

“HOLY SHIT-”

(Continued)
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>>3371914
Better drop our own Fortress Mode on top of Daegal's.
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>>3371929
I wish Voivoid wasn't so likely to be resistant to EXEC_DISRUPT.
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>>3371914

Fractal edges lash out in every direction. The scale is incomprehensible, that screeching noise blotting out all else.

For the span of seconds, for a few terrible instants, VOIVOID’s blades have been augmented to an endless range. It is a singular event – Jagged, piercing, like negative lightning. Like a storm. You see Players fly apart, disintegrating – You see limbs sheared into halves, then quarters, annihilated as if pushed through an industrial shredder. It is a churning, abstract nightmare, a whirling storm of knives that assails the field envelope like a damnation-storm, as thousands of individual razor-sharp edges lacerate and shriek against the ancient walls.

Ichor spatters the shield, boiling away. Meridian Blades – each impact like a ringing chime – ricochet and clatter. The consuming, shredding void takes them all apart. It is like a rushing tide of shadow, detonations flaring as reactors and volatiles detonate, tiny bursts of flame against the whirling darkness – the piercing industrial-cutter screech rising higher, higher-

It takes moments.

It takes an eternity.

The grinding-metal sound cycles down, violent ripples radiating across the shield’s disturbance surface. You can see the lacerations that scar the field’s serene surface – Even as, with a groaning crash, the front half of the siege ram drops away, sheared through. It tumbles forward, into the abyss – shattered forms spilling after it, a billowing cloud of essence swirling thickly in their wake.

The air is filled with so much death, you can actually see the remnants of lives twisting and coiling, like smoke. Those that didn’t simply vanished, shredded, are cut in sections – Cables sparking from bare metal stumps, the oncoming force utterly annihilated.

A hush falls.

There is a carpet of shorn and ragged bodies across the wide floor. None are intact, unspeakable fluids drooling down the scarred walls on either side. It is a jumble of pieces, like a morbid puzzle, sectioned and sectioned again-

Daegal makes a sound. A low, sick sound as he turns his head away. Trying to retch, to vomit.

And then there’s just VOIVOID and QLIPPOTH TRIGON, now. QLIPPOTH has been cut, too, divided along a single shearing cut. A vertical line, opened through TRIGON’s peerless black exoskeleton. The glyphs of his riftspikes burn red, arterial red, bright and hooked, pulsing visible agony through your field of vision as that tortured form slumps forward onto all fours, eviscerated.

The damage is hideous. It is as if he has been split apart, opened out. There are things spilling out of him. Fibrous matter. Something too thick and clotted to be blood.

Need, need, a sharp need-

Around you, the sea of Lachryma roils. The foetid, ink-black stuff begins to rear up, in tiny peaks and spires. Rising, rising, filling the polluted air-

(Continued)
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>>3371960
Shit, is his goal to make Trigon suck up so much lachryma that it's no longer fueling the gate?
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>>3371960

Thick black ribbons of the inky substance reach out.

They twist. They coil. Like billowing clouds, dragging across the surface of the barrier, like impossibly vast swarms of flies. Searching, seeking-

Towards the thing that needs to be filled.

Towards QLIPPOTH TRIGON.

It flows into the broken, shambling form. Pours into it, running and dripping, swelling, flowing again. Ink-black foulness, too much to fit into a single body.

There is a splintering *CRACK*, a sound like a rifle shot. QLIPPOTH TRIGON’s spine pushes through that glossy black armour, sprouting like a calcified tree trunk. Weird, twisting bones – like the thrashing branches of winter trees – shear outwards in all directions. His ribcage tears open, like skeletal wings – the cancerous, swollen organs within pulsing and growing, smearing across the reshaping skeleton.

His limbs swell and stretch, bristling with thorns. Scales – black scales – swarm across blistered armour, a scythe-bladed tail twisting and thrashing as it grows out of the open ribs, hideous sounds echoing. Pain-twisted optics sink back into that head, Lachryma oozing from that expanding maw, writhing upwards in mutiny against gravity, bubbling and pulsing as they push outwards and upwards-

Horns. Huge, upright horns.

There is a dreadful buzzing, buzzing, the chirring of insect wings-

The thing that was QLIPPOTH TRIGON – Swollen, bloated to eight times a Player’s size – snaps vast jaws together, arching its back. Wings – Black, leathery, dripping with slime – unfurl, a halo of tattered flesh and TRIGON’s lightless substance. Taloned claws clutch rigidly at the ground beneath, helm splitting open to reveal scaled flesh – the maw hideously distended, stippled with teeth that bulge and hinge. As it jerks upright, it *howls*-

“Nnnnnn-”

Daegal staggers, rocked by the force – Clutching at the sides of his helmet, unable to block his auditory sensors. Your own have already cut out – For a moment, his actions are like a pantomime, as his gauntlets clamp around the twisted remnants of the control surfaces-

And then everything outside the shield goes white, blazing with cold fire.

The tableau vanishes. Space is gouged open, the air splitting as reality flexes. The Gate unfurls in a wash of obscene light, groaning right through to its metal core. Blue light spills into the wash of flame, clouds of storm-streaked darkness swirling around the field envelope – Lightnings writhing and fluorescing around the infinite void of the Beyond. You can see corposant crackling and sliding around the Gate’s field of reality, a fizzling noise at the very edge of perception-

A calm descends. A kind of calm.

(Continued)
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>>3372029
Wow, looks like Trigon can soak up a lot more than we thought and not reach critical mass. So is Vovoid gonna ride him and charge towards the gate? I feel like that'd be a risky move since I don't know what's keeping Trigon loyal after being carved to pieces and almost certainly losing what's left of his mind, but I don't know what else he can do.
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>>3372029

Outside – the tempest, churning, roiling. The sensation of motion, a vast, tumbling descent through tides of dragging madness. It is beyond the capacity of your sensors to process: You see static. A blizzard of white noise. The buzzing grey of a blank cathode-ray tube, boiling with electronic snow. A monotonous still-life, being broadcast from Hell.

Something that flexes and shivers, beyond the sphere of reality that carries you through the howling void. Through the seething nullity, the blue light that comes from everywhere and nowhere at once.

“They’re-”

Kazuya finds his feet, unsteadily.

“They’re *gone*.”

His helm swings from left to right. “All that, and – They’re just gone.”

“Joker – Joker, *where* are we?”

[ ] “Home, Kazuya. It’s taking us home.”
[ ] “Anywhere else is find with me, right now.”
[ ] “Wherever we’re meant to going, I guess.”
[ ] “I don’t know. But we’re alive, and that’s what matters.”
[ ] “Watch your step. If you fall from here-”
[ ] “You all right?”
[ ] Free

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3372055
>You alright?
>I don't know where we're going precisely but anywhere's better than here. The Hollow Sun hopefully.
>Can you still see if you can fix this, control it somehow?
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>>3372055
>[ ] “Anywhere else is find with me, right now.”
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>>3372055
>[ ] “I don’t know. But we’re alive, and that’s what matters.”
>Keep an eye out, I'm not absolutely certain that they can't follow us.
>Check if the Joker's Memory somehow transferred back to us or if we had to trade it to get out of there.
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>>3372083
>>3372144
These.
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>>3372083
>>3372144
>>3372157

> [X] You alright?

“I – yeah. I *think*-”

There’s something taut, something controlled, in Daegal’s stance – His wary gaze flickering across the drop on either side. There’s a catch to his words, a sense that he’s holding on as best as he can. When he looks down at the pitted iron underfoot, it’s as if he’s the safest thing to stare at that he can think of-

Anything else, other than what he’s just seen. Other than what just happened.

> [X] “Anywhere else is fine with me, right now.”
> [X] “I don’t know. But we’re alive, and that’s what matters.”

He nods. No words, just a nod, like he doesn’t trust himself to speak.

> [X] “Can you still see if you can fix this, control it somehow?”

“It’s…”

He has one hand on the tangled mess of cables and wiring, a gauntlet buried in the arcane mechanisms. Micro-filaments of oriachulcum fan from his fingertips, hair-thin wires that run in die-straight lines, like intricate circuitry – “…I’m doing what I *can* to keep it stable, to keep it in one piece-”

Then, rather more ominously-

“…I think.”

The eyepieces of Daegal’s helm catching the light – “There isn’t…There isn’t anything to *work* with. There’s just what we brought with us. A, as long as it stays intact, it’d keep-”

> Check if the Joker's Memory somehow transferred back to us or if we had to trade it to get out of there.

The Joker’s Memory – the blazing element sealed within it – remains locked in place, something too brilliant to look directly upon. Like a captured star, like a miniature sun.

How did he create something like this? How did he contain all that power?

Or perhaps he didn’t. Perhaps it, too, came from the deep past.

> Keep an eye out, I'm not absolutely certain that they can't follow us-

And on the crest of a premonition, you swivel your head up into the inky abyss-

The barrier tears open like a gut wound.

There is a monstrous *bang* of decompression. A huge shape explodes through the field envelope, vast fragments of shield-energies raining down like shards of mirror. Light and smoke from the killing ground you’ve left behind swirls in through the ragged tear, a huge, heavy shape searing through the rent-

It is a black mass, blistered, torn. Streamers of black ichor wrench out from those razor-edged wings, the edges of the tear bulging and spasming. It *burns* like a toxic star, the grotesque black bulk’s rancid flesh ramming through-

A massive, repellent shape, smoke boiling from barbed scales. Back-jointed legs, swollen with muscle, malformed skull topped with giant horns-

QLIPPOTH TRIGON rips from one reality into the next, gaping fang-fringed maw yawning wide – And for one terrible instant, as the ghastly shape descends, you glimpse the gleam of gold-

(Continued)
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>>3372249
>QLIPPOTH TRIGON rips from one reality into the next, gaping fang-fringed maw yawning wide – And for one terrible instant, as the ghastly shape descends, you glimpse the gleam of gold-
Oh for fuck's sake.
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>>3372304
Did you really think we could avoid a boss battle?
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>>3372249

“-"

There is a sound like screaming, gale-force winds. The confined space churns, swept by a violent wake. QLIPPOTH TRIGON – the thing QLIPPOTH TRIGON has become moves - with a speed that is wholly and entirely unnatural. It is a speed augmented and accelerated beyond belief, a speed refined to a killing edge by some hellish fusion of galvanic reflexes and synapse web.

It is scale and bone and glistening tissue, serpent-like, sleeved in ropes of taut sinew. Nothing human – or even humanoid – remains in that tortured shape, as it *uncoils*. The first wave of the thing’s breath blasts against you, an exhalation of corrosive ammonia vapor, as scabby, ink-black flesh hurls itself down like a thunderbolt-

Lightning. It seethes with lightnings. Red sparks, crackling across TRIGON’s form as serpent and rider spear down, a jagged black shape against the ghastly white static beyond. The passage has wounded it, blistered it, tufts and wisps of foul grey hair lashing in its wake.

And – behind the knotted bur of QLIPPOTH’s great horns-

-You see VOIVOID’s lightless eyes, utterly black. Utterly mad.

(FOREBODE ACTIVATED)

HP: 167%
VITAE BOOSTER: 68%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 150%
METER: 26%
ENCROACHMENT: 17%
CARTRIDGES: SILVER CARTRIDGE (X2)

ENERGY: ERROR
CRUX: VITAE BOOSTER
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE
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>>3372320
I vaguely feel like our goal should be to slow these guys down so we can exit hyperspace before them and leave them trapped between dimensions but I don't know if that's plausible.
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>>3372320
This chain of events is so ridiculous that I can't help but give props to Voivoid.

So, pop the Carnifex, pop in and fire two additional silver cartridges for maximum ice form? Thanks to the carnifex we will be able to load and fire on the same turn.

What's the best revolver for this situation? The monofilament one?

Either way, fire out a fucking flurry of boosted missiles.
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>>3372369
To add, Kazuya should focus on getting in targetted shots with Rubicante if he's able to multitask.
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>>3372320
OP, give us an idea of the environment please. We need to know what's happening.

>Pop the Carnifex + Blutsauger now
>Use meter and booster we have to load in 2 silver cartridges and activate BLACK FROST
>Sinistrel level 2 to absorb the lightning he's fire at us. Use scrander to fly under it, providence and sinistrel to shred it from underneath while it's distracted
>Have the sword incoms try to slice off Qlippoth's horns and anything connecting Vovoid to the massive brute

We'll have to blow all of our meter this turn on black frost but next turn we can try disrupting the control spikes he's using to guide Trigon.
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>>3372369
He gives no shits. His plan is "Kill fucking everyone and escape by myself. Fuck you all, I ride a giant dragon into battle."
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>>3372369
Monofilament won't do shit right now to a Corrector this big covered in nanomachines.
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>>3372391
>Blutsauger
...Hopefully do this in a way that Kazuya doesn't get leeched.

>>3372400
Yeah, I'd make better suggestions but I can't use the guide right now.
Don't boosted vulcans now have a corrosive effect?

Actually, couldn't we just go ice sword on the fucker thanks to our ice form?
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>>3372369
>This chain of events is so ridiculous that I can't help but give props to Voivoid.
He is named after a heavy metal band.
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>>3372404
Yeah but I'd rather hack and slash with the Providence + Sinistrel level 2 to start to maximise how safe we can be as we measure them out.

>hopefully do this in a way that kazuya doesn't get leeched.
We've done it when he's close by and it hasn't seemed to hurt him before but that's why I'm suggesting we fly under Trigon and also to draw him away from the bottom and surprise the fuck.

>>3372391
As an addition to this
>Shatterblast Trigon's wings
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>>3372320
let's open up a dragon.

dual tau guns to create a rent

summon peacemaker in holster from vitae for when Trigon inevitably opens its mouth for a breath weapon, then quickdraw and fan the trigger, if it doesn't open up then aim for the tau gun holes.

.Deagal should fortress mode around the mechanism and provide cover fire if he can.
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>>3372391
(You're standing on the vast iron ring that spans the Gate's core, which is about twenty meters wide at largest. This is some distance from the center, which means there's a drop on either side. Your opponents are diving down at you from almost directly above.

You're fighting inside the shield bubble, which expands in all directions, stabilized by the Gate's mechanisms. Everything outside the field envelope is inimical to your existence.

Note that using extremely powerful weaponry has a chance of destabilizing the Gate and / or damaging essential systems. The Gate's manifested weaponry can fire, but most of the heavier weapons can't depress sufficiently to open fire on TRIGON at close range.)

>>3372414
>>3372404
>>3372400
>>3372371
>>3372369
>>3372366

(Gentlemen, my apologies - It's extremely late for me, but I'll continue at the first opportunity. Good night and God bless, this should be interesting.)
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>>3372404
blutsaeger is an indiscriminate AOE. it hits friends as well as enemies.

save it for when the fight has moved further away, or he's behind a fortress mode.
>>3372391
>wanting to charge a dragon and it's melee focused rider when they will be coming to us shortly

no, bad idea. We can switch to melee when it happens imminently, let's not rush to engage close up.
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>>3372439
Gotcha.

MAXIMUM ICE JOKER
DUAL CRISIS ARMS
BOOST THE ARMS
ADD VECTOR BITS
THROW THE FUCKER INTO THE FIELD ENVELOPE

Maybe use something to immobilize him, as well. Do we have a good codeburst for that?
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>>3372456
If we rush to engage, we stop him slamming into the platform/gate and we can force him into a terrible position because we'll be under him and he'll be struggling to curl around and about himself. Plus, if we keep him further back we can use him as a human shield and have the turrets fire on the motherfucker.
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>>3372472
they aren't heading for the Gate.

they are heading for us. We are standing on a ring shaped platform around the Gate which is 20 meters wide at the widest.

I would prefer to have Trigon dead or dying as soon as possible before we close to melee. OP said it was inhumanly fast. that means it can probably react perfectly well to infighting. Let's not rush Bardiel a second time, okay?

In my opinion the Peacemaker revolver is tailor made for killing high HP enemies. With the carnifex and argus active we can fan the trigger and send all six shots down it's mouth or into a hole made via tau gun or weapon fire.

Then we use abruption jets and tempest to dart out from it's falling bulk.
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>>3372369
Seriously, he gathers an enormous army, almost immediately kills them all except for his best dude who he just mutilates and mutates, and proceeds to use as a mount. I can't help but feel we've been out fucking skilled.
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>>3372391
I am voting for this we need to keep vivid and trogon away from the platform and off balance
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>>3372567
Issues with this
>They are going for us and we're standing in front of the Gate. We can't be sure if their target is us or the Gate. Either way, we can't use our most dangerous gunfire and threaten to destablise it and Daegal is keeping it working so it's better to split their targets and charge under/towards them
>Waiting where we are gives them inititive, plus we're going to be able to use the quickening for a full turn with the carnifex and black frost. Since providence is an anti-corrector weapon, this causes insane damage.
>Peacemaker already needs an existent opening in armor to cause damage to the core functions. We also won't have enough meter for it if we load in 2 more silvers.
>It's not a matter of infighting, it's that Trigon is going one direction super fast while we are going the opposite direction also super fast. Since it's 8x the size of a normal player, this will require it to turn around and face us or let us get some free attacks in
>Providence and the Sinistral level 2 are made to take energy attacks and kill correctors; its currently shooting lightning breath at us and it's a giant corrector plus we move away from daegal so we can activate blutsauger and build charge to cast disrupt on Trigon's control rods next turn
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>>3372589
We didn't really have a chance to retaliate but it was pretty damn unconventional.
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>>3372391
>>3372594
Voting for these. We can't use our big guns right now, plus any meter we have had to go to black frost so we can fight off vovoids and Trigon's attacks. I recommend additionally we give daegal caesar. He can use it with rubicante thanks to the vector trap to fire an enhanced rubicante 5 times hp free
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>>3372611
Apologies I am not voting for>>3372594
, I want to engage Trigon immediately with the scrander. I believe if we let Trigon land on the platform, we will not win. Vovoid is dependent on Trigon to stay in the bubble right now. If he gets on the platform we will not be able to face them both in such a confined space
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>>3372605
And I gotta wonder if he actually planned this, or if he just improvised immediately after noticing he and his army couldn't walk over to us.
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>>3372673
This reeks of improv to me; they brought that useless siege machine after all.
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>>3372681
I think he was perfectly prepared to do it as a last resort. He knew Trigon could draw lachryma and he knew what he was going into with the forge. He was obviously getting reports from somewhere
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>>3372594
Voivod is driving and the text calls out that he is specifically focused on Joker.

additionally, if he destroys the Gate everyone dies him included.

How is providence an anti-corrector weapon? it's not. it is a tachyon sword.

Trigon has a huge mouth, with no armor in it. A mouth that is open.

regardless of how fast we are going Trigon will get to attack us as we pass, possibly Voivod as well.

You can't target disrupt to certain systems, and it typically targets weapon abilities not control systems. Disrupt is a crapshoot.

>>3372611
He might still have to pay the HP cost, or it might just trigfer a normal shot. we don't know how that works. plus he already has cagnazzo which pairs better anyway.

>>3372673
He definitely planned this. everyone there was just a sacrifice for him.

>>3372320
WAIT!!! Trigger Exec_HARROW! it will hit both of them and stun them while we close.
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>>3372865
Joker is standing by the Gate's core next to Daegal; Daegal was just working on it a few moments ago. It's possible he's willing to slam into the Gate and risk destroying us as he was literally able to fly after the things a few moments ago.

Providence is an anti-corrector weapon because it's an upgraded form of Omen which was always an anti-corrector weapon and
>This tight-focus chronological displacement can carve away great chunks of any enemy – Except against superdense plating or heavily armored targets, which exceed the blade’s capability (at maximum output) to displace
Which will be ideal against nanomaterial/regenrating Trigon.

A huge mouth that is open and streaming poison and lightning which we can block with the Sinistral as we close or stand in front of and get hit by; either way, we cannot afford the Peacemaker *and* Black Frost.

Vovoid won't be able to attack us, he's standing on top of Trigon, I'm saying pass underneath where our Solition Radar/Entrophic ice field/Blutsauger can do the most damage.

Disrupt targets relics. Those are relics. There's no reason not to try disrupting it next turn.

Triggering Exec_Harrow is an awful idea because Trigon can go invisible and if we take Harrow off of him, we can't auto aim on the guy/keep him under detection at all times.
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>>3372935
Trigon likely has fucktons of HP. the Peacemaker is specifically designed to kill high HP threats. And we have an open shot. We already loaded two silver cartridges which is enough for black ice. We can easily dodge the incoming breathe weapon with carnifex and abruption jets which will also pull them away from deagal and the gate.

he can chameleon, we have the argus system. We don't need harrow to track him.

How does standing here preclude using the sinistral to block? it doesn't.

VOIVOD has both hands free, exactly like when he rode the tank chariot. He can, and will attack us as we close in. being close to him also exposes us to his blade cloak which he can use without hands.

even IF we luck out and Disrupt targets the agony control rods, there's no guarantee that the situation will improve. Its a good plan for later, but a bad opener.

your plan exposes us to attacks from a HIDEOUSLY strong dragon while flying directly into his breath weapon which will destroy our shield for a turn so his rider (who can stick to things with just his feet) can attack us with the ranged melee weapons we already know he has and his whirling blade cloak all while our shield is disabled. also, if our scrander is destroyed for any reason we are fucked.

my plan splits our enemies attention while drawing them away from the Gate and deals heavy damage to one of them. It allows us to dodge the incoming attack and counter attack effectively.

to reiterate this is what I propose.

>action 1
have deagal fire the weapons at Trigon because he's the biggest target.
activate carnifex and use abruption jets to dodge the breath weapon as a free action. this clears us away from Deagal and the gate.
swapping weapons is a free action, so summon peacemaker as a free action in hand and fan the trigger right up Trigon's open mouth. We will have less accuracy, but Trigon is a huge target.

We can also use the Cannon bits once we are out of the path of the breath weapon to increase the damage done to Trigon which will also boost our Meter and Vitae gain. They act independant of us so action economy isn't an issue.

>Action 2

If we haven't had to dodge too much at this point we can engage the scrander And Black Ice and pull then away from the Gate further.

I agree that we should use providence to increase our dodge at this point and then join into melee when necessary.
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>>3372667
>>3372865
How about this:
Dual Fortress Mode to engulf the two guys, making them incapable of flight.
Vitae boosted Crisis arm to throw them into the lachryma.
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>>3374332
Again, we still have to buy the Peacemaker which is 65% Meter. BF Lvl1 lasts 2 turns with us slowed down and not auto regenerating limbs; BF Lvl3 lasts 6 turns, auto-heals, full speed, shatter blasts and we can create a giant sword if we want AND we can use the Quickening continuously because we can't take system's damage.

That doesn't change the fact Harrow allows us to auto-hit and have way easier hits for free and Argus takes continuous meter drain; the Argus is also unable to go through some forms of invisibility. We also can't fan the Peacemaker's hammer and use the Sinistral to block because the peacemaker requires 2 hands free to use properly but even if we do that, he's still going to smash into us while we stay still.

We don't know if Vovoid has both hands free and again, he'll be on the opposite side of Trigon. To attack us he'll have to go through Trigon.

I didn't say Disrupt now, I said disrupt *later*.

Your plan is awful; you gimp BF, you force us to stand in front of the enemy charge so we can still get the angle on the mouth and fire down it, you don't use the fact we'll be super strong, super fast and super tough and you seem to be forgetting the abilities that BF + Carnifex give us
>Can't be surprised
>Aura of killing frost

By flying beneath and past him, we can drag the Providence up his entire stomach causing torrential wounds while the Sinistral absorbs and slices him up with his own elemental attack *and* we're causing autodamage from the fields and blutsauger *and* we will pin him between two different opponents *and* we can follow up with caesar + axanael next turn along with a control rod disrupt next turn which makes this all better. Also, I keep saying we're going to use the sword bits to distract Vovoid along with the fact he won't be able to get the angle on us while we disembowel Trigon as we fly past it.

>>3375157
Too big. Trigon is 8x bigger than the average player.
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>>3372865

You do not think.

You feel no conflict, no hesitation.

As the great wyrm spears out of the sea of storm-tossed static-

As that all-consuming maw yawns open, revealing row after row after row of fangs-

The Carnifex snaps into place over your faceplate, clamping down in a gleaming brass mask. The crusher locks in place, filaments of red gold lancing through solenoids, into nerve-connections, through the synapse web that carries your consciousness. Enhancing you – Accelerating you, as the Tempest Scrander swoons to life at your back-

There is a brittle *bang*, plates of armor blasted away from your frame. Static discharge crackles from your limbs as the Abruption Jets fling you into the air. Vector Bits slam into place, adding their acceleration to the Scrander's, blue-fire backwash flinging you high in a single surge.

You outrun your own sonic boom, as you kick off from the ground – Shards of armor rattling like flechettes against Daegal, as he instinctively flinches back from you. But on wings of jetair and flame, in an unblurring rush of real motion, you're already speeding upwards towards the descending terror-

Red armor becomes hyperdense ice. As the Cestus triggers – Twin silver cartridges discharging their hypercompressed payload – your form flash-freezes as it transmutes. The endothermic generators of your entropic field wrench heat from the air, the killing frost blistering across your limbs; The Sinistral's burning wedge sears the air before you, raised in singular defense. Sparks leap and dance across the industrial talons of your Crisis Arm, the metal fist flexing with a melody like snapping girders.

QLIPPOTH TRIGON's maw boils with light. Hell gushes forth.

Not fire. Not lightning. It is a *distortion*, an outpouring, something that roils with all the colors of madness. Neon light streaks your vision, the phantom reek of hot metal and hacked meat flooding your mouth – a mouth you don't have. Your nerves ignite as the burning venom spews across you, [i]around[/i] the Sinistral's field – Where it meets the warping torrent, you hear the hard-light barrier scream.

Your form is translucent, frozen around a pulsing, inexhaustible core – Threads of cold around a burning heart. Like a carved statue of red ice, impossibly articulated, in motion. Where it intersects with you – the writhing death-blast searing past your raised shield – your form boils away. Your substance sifts away, in trailing, twisting streamers of powder-

Ash. It's turning you to ash.

But you plunge through it. You surge through it, your endothermic field making a lie of the forces directed against you. Ice remembers it's own, vapor swirling as it re-freezes, the rents sealing up as soon as they form.

And you-

-A flicker of premonition-

You should have remembered the lightning.

[FATALISM activated]

(Continued)
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>>3375599
>didn't load up two more silver cartridges after putting on the carnifex to have max black frost
OP WHY
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>>3375609
Fucking wonderful. Wonderful. Did we not have enough booster/meter or something?
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>>3375612
No, we had enough. 2 cartridges is 90 Booster + Meter.
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>>3375614
Hmm. Would that be enough with Fatalism added on? Because I'm not sure full Black Frost Is worth taking a crit.
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>>3375599

Lightning sears from the twisted spires that crown QLIPPOTH TRIGON's wings. Each bolt is a twisting vein of toxic yellow, shot through with threads of galvanic blue and arterial red.

The first one actually flies past you, like a crackling lash. It grounds itself against the rampart of Daegal's Fortress Mode – Erupting in a blinding nova of shock-light, scoring a furious line across the interlocking hexagons of the shield. It eats *through* it, like a hungry flame burning through a sheet of paper.

The second one strikes you.

It hits the Sinistral and detonates it. Feedback lances up the black-streaked crimson ice of your arm, as the field shatters – the concussive blast flinging energy chips in all direction, smiting the photonic mantle that burns around you. It leaves a fading afterimage like a jagged fault-line, sparks shearing from your flanks as your frozen armor ruptures, flaws crazing through your hyperdense shell.

But you have no systems to overload. No internals to destroy. The howling bolt twists *through* you, as it smites you from the air, burned and blasted-

And your draw is as fast as ever.

The PEACEMAKER is in your right hand. The hammer slams down, the peal of a single monstrous shot splitting the air. The single round spits across the distance, instantly lost against TRIGON's blistered black bulk. You are still falling as you fire again, the PEACEMAKER's chromed barrel hurling a second shot-

TRIGON's right wing explodes.

(Continued)
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>>3375599
Op can we load two more sliver cartridges now? To enhance us. No one wanted to charge that thing without th max black frost !!!
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>>3375619
We can't enhance Black Frost after the fact, anon. We're stuck with It, and our hindered mobility.
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>>3374332
Mate you legitimately fucked us here. Buying peacemaker and fanning the hammer, made us unequip providence and gave us no lvl4 black frost. You dolt
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>>3375625
Haha, It's almost like we should have bought Revolvers last thread so this wasn't a problem.

Which I fought for repeatedly and got no traction on the issue. Not many people wanted to spend booster on the damn Revolvers, one of us went so far as to say they were shit without even seeing them. Was It you anon? Because the PEACEMAKER just proved Itself.
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>>3375624
>>3375625
>>3375631
Stop arguing about it. We aren't in a great position right now due to lacking level 3 Black Frost and unequipping a level 2 Providence but hopefully the Peacemaker and the rest of the turn can make up the gap. Caesar and Peacemaker will still be a powerful combination if we use it right.

Also, we weren't able to buy revolvers, we never had enough energy free to do so which is why we went for Desparado first. Now stop filling up the thread with dumb arguments and wait for a clarification.
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>>3375635
I'm not arguing with anyone yet I was merely talking about the previous threads events and what I had wanted.

Also I believe you're wrong about energy sort of, I was wanting to push using the Crux for booster and grabbing a revolver one or two at a time, and It never happened. It could have happened, but that wasn't what the majority wanted and we ran out of chances.
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>>3375645
Because we were busy trying to fill in assault shroud and health. The only time we had enough energy to buy a gun, we bought the Caesar after emptying the booster and then refilling with the crux.
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>>3375619

(No – The duration can't be extended after the initial activation.)

>>3375618

The antimatter bullet slams into TRIGON's lightless black surface, and ruptures. The lethal reaction of matter / antimatter is a lightless fireball, a howl like the fiercest wind – a nuclear eyeblink. The second round ruptures against the inside of the field envelope, with a hellish anti-light that bleaches all colour from the world – the fission reaction like a perfect sphere of white, there and gone so abruptly it leaves the flash-burned afterimage of itself.

QLIPPOTH howls. It blitzes the air with a shriek beyond sound. There is a rifle-shot *crack* as chips of iron fly from the outer edge of the ring, as QLIPPOTH TRIGON banks hard – One wing stripped to the bone, tendrils of sinew and bubbling black Lachryma lashing across the surface, fighting to reknit. There is something majestically slow about that descent, right towards the Gate's churning core.

“*No*!” you hear Daegal shout - “No – no no *no*-”

The impact will rend the Gate to pieces. The field envelope will collapse, and the static-streaked madness beyond will devour you all. You intuit this even as you smash down on the stabilizer ring, so hard fragments of yourself tumble in all directions – Levering yourself up, the Sinistral's bracer burned-out on your wrist, your hand gouging desperate furrows into the peerless iron for a handhold-

The riftspikes glow red, a furious red. TRIGON wrenches away, contorting violently upon itself, twisting with bone-snapping force. The angle of plummet *shifts*, as the riling leviathan slides through the burning sky, as the first shots explode against it's surface. Solid-shell projectiles, flak – Daegal's firing everything he can, even the weapons he can't bring to bear. Filling the air with ordinance and tracer-wash, the weapons of a thousand years of war clawing the sky to shreds.

Something really substantial hits. Something slams into QLIPPOH TRIGON's bulk, and erupts in a detonation-cloud that spans the immediate space. Through EXEC_HARROW, you can feel it burning closer, closer, plunging through the backwash of the blast – But is it flying, or falling?

HP: 101%
VITAE BOOSTER: 77% (SIGMA CHARGE ACTIVE)
ASSAULT SHROUD: 111%
METER: 42%
ENCROACHMENT: 34%
REVOLVERS: CAESAR (6/6) / PEACEMAKER (5/6)

CRUX: VITAE BOOSTER
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE

> BLACK FROST: 1 TURN REMAINING
> SINISTRAL - HEAVY DAMAGE

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3375651
What weapons do we currently have in what hands?
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>>3375651
(Gentlemen, my mistake - PEACEMAKER should be 4/6.

Also, please note that extremely powerful attacks have a change of disrupting the Gate. It's like fighting inside a glass house.)

>>3375655
(You have the Peacemaker in your right hand. Note that you haven't taken any limb damage, because of BLACK FROST.)
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>>3375649
Yes but saying we didn't have the means to switch to booster Isn't exactly true, It's just that that's what people wanted. It's a difference of opinion. I think we'd have had time to restock just fine with the lull In the fighting and still had the revolvers.
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>>3375649
>Because we were busy trying to fill in assault shroud and health.
>Health
Are you a fucking idiot? The resource conversion for health through the Crux is so bad as to be useless in battle. Nobody in their right mind votes for that when we have so many other ways to regain HP.
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>>3375656
Okay, in that case-
>Warn Daegal over the comm system to move because Vovoid is doing a surprise attack through Trigon
>Circle Trigon; use the Caesar to fire off 6 shots with the Peacemaker into him along with the flame rounds of the Caesar itself.
>Fire 16 Void missiles aimed all on Vovoid to damage him through his peerless armor + Have the sword bits charge in afterwards to fuck him up.
>Buy Bandlioer - Cell.
>Target a DISRUPT on Trigon's rift spikes and if that doesn't work, try to mark Vovoid with a Harrow too.

>>3375660
After the Efreet attack, we needed it.
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>>3375666
Shouldn't we unload the peacemaker, THEN unload Ceasar to use It's ability so that the peacemaker fires while unloaded? We get more shots that way.
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>>3375666
Wait. JQOP, do we still damage the field IF WE MISS? Does the Peacemaker count as a disruptive weapon?
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>>3375669
(Yes, you're firing the equivalent of micro-nukes.)
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>>3375666
>After the Efreet attack, we needed it.
No, 15HP in that situation did less than 60 Booster would have in the long run .

>>3375651
Use Auspex to keep track of Voivod. Keep slamming Trigon with shots and insert a Silver cartridge. Absolute Zero will likely have a devastating effect against him.
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>>3375666
>>3375668
>>3375669
Shouldn't we use a fuckload of homing stuff and shit?

I vote for charging in with dual boosted Plasma Casters against our tumbling opponent, after throwing out a chain mine.

Just don't forget Voivoid's involvement.
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>>3375668
No, we can't do that because we'd have to use 2 hands to fan the hammer whereas if we use the caesar, we don't have to cock the Peacemaker each time.

>>3375666
>>3375672
>we bought a gun we can't use
Okay, great. OP, can we modify my post above by cutting out using the Caesar and the Peacemaker and instead dual malefactors to melt him to slag while continuing to bounce around and fire at him?

We should save the Peacemaker for towards the end of the fight, to assure the finish.
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>>3375680
Plasma Casters? I wouldn't, that's not nearly enough firepower for these two. Chain mine might not be a bad idea.

Also I have no problem letting a full Salvo of Void missiles go, but remember Voivod has his storm of blades bullshit, he might just cut them all to pieces.
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>>3375687
>dual malefactors
Huh, that might actually work right now, thanks to us being immune to systems damage while the fucker is falling in our direction.
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>>3375689
I'm worried a chain mine might further disrupt the field and we should save that for when we're going for a killing blow.

>>3375687
Either dual casters or dual malefactors, void missiles on vovoid, cast disrupt on the control spikes to stop them working, have the sword incoms move in after the void missiles and slice him apart.

And warn Daegal about that incoming attack.
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>>3375656
OP, could we perhaps have a small list of weapons Joker can assume would risk disrupting the Gate, so we can better decide on a course of action?
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>>3375698

(Powerful ordinance and large-scale energy weapons, mainly.)

>>3375666
>>3375668
>>3375676
>>3375680

Hunched over the spires and rods of the control surfaces, you hear Daegal swear – But he wrenches away from the damaged podium, miraculously keeping his feet on the treacherous iron walkway. The view is utterly disorientating, his form a gleaming silhouette against all that gnawing, static-streaked whiteness that is also a primordial, churning nightmare.

The spontaneous alchemy of your Silver Cartridges have changed alloyed-plate into articulated ice, veins and artificial nerves driving you on. Like an automaton of ice, building itself out of nothing even as it moves. Frost fumes around you, your footfalls blistering the ground beneath-

The sine-wave of the Argus System pings QLIPPOTH'S form, but it's almost unnecessary – EXEC_HARROW's deathmark coiling at the very edge of your senses. As the TRIGON's mutilated arrow-shaped skull breaks the surface of the smoke, you're already firing.

Your Triskelion Launchers spin up. Black-banded rockets roar through the air. Short-fused, they explode, one after another-

Howling voids open up. Slices in space, gashed open to somewhere utterly inimical to life – You see contrails of frozen flesh, of essence, boiling away from QLIPPOTH's surface as it pulls out of that fatal dive, winding across your field of vision. Every meter of the vast, blistered shape trembles in agony, that snapping maw swinging in-

“Oh shit, here it comes-”

But TRIGON swings it's head to the side. The hell-blast spews past you, going wide – the fitful lightnings continuing to leap and jag across it's surface, as it skims the inside of the field-bubble. That writhing tail lashes out, and smashes a segment of the iron ring to flinders – You see scythe-tipped blade gouge deep into the metal, fist-sized fragments bounding into the air as the terrible speed of it's passage whips past you.

Too close. Too *close*. Kill-markers pulse across your exo-armor, servoes groaning as you wrench your arms up – The twin nozzles of the MALEFACTORS like yawning pits into oblivion. Acid fire boils forth, in broad cones – It sears across TRIGON's blistered surface, clinging hungrily to it as Lachryma ignites. You see it thrash and twist, as fire encases it – flames licking and swirling across the vast body, as if bathed in napalm. Daegal staggers back from the intense heat, as the thing's substance ripples away in blackened flakes – like paint being stripped away, under a blowtorch.

“Why isn't it-”

A buzz, over the Dirac channel-

“-why isn't it attacking-”

But you already know.

Because VOIVOID doesn't want to die.

He must have been dreaming of this, all along. Until his thoughts curdled. Until madness crept in.

A singular dream of-

Escape.

The shadow of wings passes over you, and - As ice sloughs from your form - you know there's more to come.

(Continued)
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>>3375742

>Because VOIVOID doesn't want to die.

>He must have been dreaming of this, all along. Until his thoughts curdled. Until madness crept in.

>A singular dream of-

>Escape.

Hahaha, almost like looking In a mirror huh Joker? A funhouse mirror maybe, but a reflection all the same.
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>>3375742
Disrupt the control spikes. Lets make Vovoid sweat.
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>>3375758
Ok gang let's
> Load 2 sliver cartridges from r absolute zero.
> Switch one of the malefactors for providence (dat precog)
>Fire with the malefactor. The superheat after the super freeze will be devastating.
> Switch malefactor to plasma caster.
> Get in close with plasma caster and providence to wreck hell as he regens.
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>>3375742

And just as you think that-

The air fills with blades. Hiltless swords, spitting through the air. The pelting hail of knives is almost silent, as they shear through the intervening space-

“I-”

Daegal hurls himself forward. His dual-phase shield flickers around him with ghostly light, as he skids to a stop – Between you and the volley. He's seen the detonation of your Sinistral, and does the only thing he can – Put himself in the way, the Condemner burning in one hand, his mace in the other.

“-got it-”

The first blade punches through the dual-phase shield, and skewers his thigh. The second embeds itself into his shoulder, and he lets out a shout that's pained and furious at once, swinging both weapons in frantic deflections-

Oriachulcum. VOIVOID's blades are made of oriachulum, too. They punch through Daegal's field like red-hot knives through a soap bubble. One hisses past your helmet, as you wrench your head to the side – The Carnifex accelerates your senses, as will and thought become one-

With a sudden flash, the lightnings that crackle around TRIGON's burning form boil out. They lance out, a jagged, blinding discharge. It strikes Kazuya head-on, into his ragged shield – earthing itself through him, the snap shockwave of heat and debris spearing out in every direction at once.

The blast hurls you from your feet. Gyro-stabilizers deploy, as your autoreactive talons claw for purchase. A plume of electric fire sears skywards, iron glowing red-hot from the lightning strike – Daegal goes skidding, goes tumbling, his singular answer buzzing across the Dirac channel:

“-”

But he's bought you a moment. A moment, to activate EXEC_DISRUPT.

You don't target VOIVOID, or the scarred black exoskeleton that is TRIGON.

You target the riftspikes, the agonizing hooks and goads that burn with the bloody light of activation. The relics that bend TRIGON to VOIVOID's will.

The bloody red glyphs twist and warp in spidery, distorted shapes - Wrenching, gouging, trembling as splinters of raw code overload them-

They don't short out. They *detonate*.

(Continued)
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>>3375788
Lets wait to see what happens here. Our goal is to kill Vovoid now. Ideally by trapping him and his pet death beast together.
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>>3375794
Based Kazuya, being a big damn hero stepping In front of a wall of knives.
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>>3375788
>>3375794
Belay my request op. Let's see how Trigon reacts to vovoid first. I jumped the gun
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>>3375794

There is a spray of gore. *Things* rills beneath QLIPPOTH TRIGON's flesh, wrenching. Each spike erupts from ink-black craters in swollen, tumorous flesh, cables whipping, razor-edged fronds shearing the air-

They're buried deep in it, like spinal worms. Like centipedes, with many, many barbed legs.

QLIPPOTH TRIGON howls. Rank effluvium spills from the hideous wounds, as they tear out it. Stinking, milky ichor gushes forth as it convulses, wracked with suffering. You hear bones snap, the shuddering bulk twisting in vicious agonies, plunging forward with the ponderous unstoppability of a dying leviathan-

It keeps going. At full speed. Whatever QLIPPOTH may once have been, there is little more than an animal, now.

But animals can still hate.

Daegal is burned, blasted. He tries to push himself to all fours – corospant sliding across his limbs – slumps back down, like a dog with nightmares.

He doesn't see what you see. He doesn't see VOIVOID – Heedless of the snapping, snarling tonnage beneath him – raise a gold-chased longsword, and drive it into the side of QLIPPOTH's skull. It punches right through one of those glassy, staring eyes, the head wrenching up in torment-

And it slams into the inner curve of the ring's far side.

Metal rips apart. The Gate's far edge deforms massively, the terrible impact shaking the ground beneath your feet. Iron balloons out, cables flailing out of jagged holes spitting sparks.

TRIGON screams again.

“F-fuck,” Daegal gasps out, as he claws his way to his feet. “The shield-”

The thrum of machinery chokes. There is a crackle of smoke, a titanic burst of flame. An ungodly clatter, as for a moment – just a moment – the shield flickers. Titanic stresses wrench through the Gate, as Lachryma-meshed mechanisms tremble in distress – The sound starts up again, louder, faster than ever, like the pounding of an arrhythmic heart.

“It can't – It can't take another hit like that-” There's an edge of panic in Daegal's voice, now – Your platform has lost a quarter of it's mass, a choking cloud billowing out from the area of TRIGON's impact. You can see it list to the side, sections of upper structure and hull annihilated or left glowing along burned edges. A fug of choking black smoke swirls, like blood in water.

And – Without any warning at all – EXEC_HARROW winks out.

VOIVOID's trace on your Argus System...scatters. Flying apart, a confusion of motes. There's so much debris in the air, charged and crackling from the Gate's hull, that it's impossible to *see* what just happened – But the signal flickers on the millimeter-wave of your sensors, seemingly tracking countless fragments-

“Did we...?” Kazuya blurts out - “Are they...?”

HP: 122%
VITAE BOOSTER: 62%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 88%
METER: 59%
ENCROACHMENT: 49%
REVOLVERS: CAESAR (6/6) / PEACEMAKER (4/6)

CRUX: VITAE BOOSTER
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3375849
Can we repair the Sinistral somehow OP?
>Daegal, don't lower your guard. Are you okay? How are you doing damage wise, do you need any healing?

>Trigger Harrow now, just in case to make *sure* they fall over board.
>Buy Axanael using Meter and use it and the caesar to target anything we see. Keep the Argus + Auspex active using Booster.
>Cut the Crux, lets let our encroachment fall.
>Put the coms into cannon mode and go into overwatch. We cannot be surprised with the Carnifex on.

Then, we wait.
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>>3375849
Disable Crux to save us from encroachment?

We should do something about Voivoid now. I hope Trigon is still going for the guy, but either way I assume he's just gone invisible.

How do we get past orichalcum?
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>>3375865
>>Buy Axanael using Meter and use it and the caesar to target anything we see

Daegal:
>“It can't – It can't take another hit like that-”

Anon:
>USE THE SUPERHEAVY HAND-HELD ARTILLERY PIECE!
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>>3375869
Axanael.
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>>3375871
(Powerful ordinance and large-scale energy weapons, mainly.)

Axanael fires big bullets and what else are we going to use on Vovoid if he emerges? These aren't massive explosive energy weapons like the Peacemaker, Logos or beam magnum, they're powerful bullets.
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>>3375876
They also warp reality such that are utterly unstoppable. It's a fucking stupid idea.
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>>3375880
One shot should be enough to knock him off the deck but we can go with dual chernobogs instead and save Axanael for later.

I think that'll be a huge mistake though.
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>>3375871
>>3375880
Do you think Nocturne would do anything against him?
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>>3375865
>>3375849

I disagree with this course of action. Let's NOT use Axaneal, It's too dangerous.

Why don't we see If Noctourne (lazer turns things to sand) or Calibre (Adamantium bullets) might work? They seem big enough to hurt but not enough to wreck the rift.

Also, set CRUX to BOOSTER. We need It.

Can we load up a Silver or 2 for absolute 0 or Black Frost again? If we can get that point blank It would seriously hurt him, otherwise we can just use Black frost to buff ourselves again and get AoE damage and slows.

We might want to Equip Providence as well for the Precog, so Providence In one hand a magnum In the other. (Doesn't *particularly* matter which.)
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>>3375869
>He's gone Invisible

>>3375849

Oh shit, Activate Auspex and warn Daegal to activate his sensors, Voivods still around.
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>>3375902
Orichalcum is fantastic at resisting corrosion but I think 6 shots with Nocturne followed up by 12 shots with Caesar could be enough yeah.

I'd say;
>Trigger Harrow
>Raise booster
>Overwatch for the incoms
>Form nocturne and dual wield it with Caesar
>Ask Daegal how he's doing/tell him to keep his guard up
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>>3375895
No, his armor is specifically immune to transmutation.

OP, did we lose track of both enemies or just Trigon?


We are still in Carnifex mode. We can still fire cartridges the moment we load them.

>>3375902
Providence is a good idea, especially as the Sinistral is down.

Void missiles should be good, considering that they should ignore armor outright and Voivoid is almost impossible to inflict systems damage to, anyway.

As for our main hand, we need some pinpoint accuracy and also strong firepower. I'm really unsure as to what to use.
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>>3375906
Oh and active both Argus and Auspex obviously. Next turn, lets not use Crux though, we need it to lower.
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Wait, don't we have recharged axel grips now?
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>>3375906
Alright I'll support that vote, but I have two suggestions.

Black Frost would be good for Anti-Crits and Internals/limb damage. Load 3 Cartridges and use them. With Crux on Booster we'll have enough for that and Noctourne.

Activate auspex.

If I'm wrong and we really can't afford 3 Cartriges with everything else (plus the booster we're gaining) I say we settle for 2.

Sound good?
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>>3375907
Daegal's armor still took damage from Rust Kaiser's corrosion so the Nocturne should still damage the armor overall.

>>3375910
Lets save those for after he emerges instead of using it as a first engagement weapon; they're incredibly precise and we don't want to overshoot it if he appears.
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>>3375865
>>3375869
>>3375871

“I – Nnnnnnn...”

He reaches down, his gauntlet closing on the blade speared through his thigh. With an effort, Daegal wrenches it free, flings the wretched thing away. Kazuya's grunt of pain is a blurt of static, as he levers himself to one knee. He grips the one in his shoulder, drags it out, and nearly crumples.

“-Yeah, I think...Somehow, I'm still-”

The dull throb of the heart within you slows to nothing, as the CRUX does its work.

The deathmark is gone. Was TRIGON completely destroyed? The weird scatter of VOIVOID's traces over a wide area continues to linger, invisible behind the whirling cloud of slowly-expanding smoke. As the Vector Bits detach from the Tempest Scrander, they hover in place, shifting subtly to bring their barrels to bear-

There is a sound. A clatter, a chime.

“Joker-”

The blades Daegal wrenched free – They're shivering, vibrating, the gold-chased tongues of metal resonating with some distant source-

Schematic lines jag through the air. You feel AXANEL's big iron at your hip, the barrel fully as large as the circle thumb and forefinger make.

There is a grinding *scrape*, as the fallen blades slide against the ground. They whip past you, without warning, so fast a miniature thundercrack sounds in the air.

“What-”

And then you hear it.

Out of the smoke.

Out of the flame.

The air, shrieking as it is cut. Something chased in gold, burning like a second sun.

It is a storm of swords. It is a fractal cloud of interlacing knives, rotating and slicing like a thousand blades slashing in every direction at once. They whirl and flash in complex orbits around an unutterably bright core of oriachulcum, a sphere too brilliant to look upon directly. They cycle around their own axis, rippling like the crest of a wave, drifting upwards with slow, deliberate menace.

It rises, and turns towards you. Pitch-black, gold-chased blades flicker as their orbit accelerates, becoming a rotating arc of inevitability. There is a terrible symnetry to the revolving pattern, something almost mesmeric about the way it twists and coils upon itself, like a hollow crown.

“Is that-” Kazuya is on his feet, now. There is disbelief in his stance. A realization, a growing terror.

(Continued)
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>>3375907
The only reason I'm not suggesting Void missiles right now Is don't they create micro-tears In reality to suck In essence? Creating too many of those tears might screw us here, considering where we are.
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>>3375917
We went ahead and went with the first vote? Fucking hell.
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>>3375917
>Axanael
well this will be interesting

>>3375918
Those missiles to be fine considering we launched 16 and didn't damage the field overall. But this should be interesting.
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>>3375917

“Is that-”

Faster. *Faster*. Accelerating, with the rotation that threatens a cyclone. The hell-light of VOIVOID's core shines within the rushing shell of those many, many blades – Twisting towards you, like some industrial slaughterer. The oriachulcum blades whir and chop, a storm five meters across, a zone of annihilation around a burning heart-

There is no orientation to it. No features, nothing except that rushing blackness.

But there is a sense that something is – very, very slowly – narrowing its eyes.

And with one rushing clatter-

With a steel-on-steel clang, amplified over and over again-

It ploughs forward, chirring and buzzing, buzzing, *buzzing*, in a damnation swarm.

HP: 137%
VITAE BOOSTER: 12%
ASSAULT SHROUD: 88%
METER: 59%
ENCROACHMENT: 33%
REVOLVERS: CAESAR (6/6) / PEACEMAKER (4/6) / AXANEL (6/6)

CRUX: N/A
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3375849
Ok gang heres my idea.
Place the swords bits around daegal to react to any vovoid attacks.
> Equip providence and activate auspex.
> Switch crux to health.
>Plasma caster in the right hand. Cqc is inevitable with so little space
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>>3375924
Oh hell, turn the Crux on Booster. Dammit, why did we turn It off?

Alright, he's waiting for us to make our move but hell, what Is our move? I'd say Fusion Annihalte them but I'm not sure that'd do us any good with the Rift.

Do you think Dual Malefactors would melt them with the Intense chemical reaction guys?
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>>3375928
(Gentlemen, my apologies - I must turn in for now. You've been a wonderful audience so far, and I'll strive to continue as soon as I have the chance.)
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>>3375924
So a literal wall of swords is rushing at us.

We don't have enough energy to pop two silver cartridges.

We need to get his core. I would suggest firing Axanael at him as long as we still have a moment to do that.
The projectile should be capable of just penetrating through the sword wall.
Then throw up fortress mode and shoot the next shot from inside our barrier.
Let the cannon bits fire at the swords.

I suggest we use the METER and BOOSTER gained from these shots to load cartridges.
No idea which ones, though.
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We need to think carefully with this vote. What do we have that can stop a swarm of Orichilam blades?

...I'm taking a look at our equipment Doc.
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>>3375928
Probably best not to switch Crux to health; we have the Carnifex on and its at max.

>>3375924
>Use our meter to create a single silver cartridge to create absolute zero
>Use boosted plasma vulcans to peel away his defenses
>Have the cannon incoms protect Daegal and hold Vovoid back
>Fire with AZ when he's had his defenses peeled away.

>>3375938
>>3375944
Dual Malefactors is probably a bit slow so far. Here's my idea up above. Fusion annihilator won't work I think, it'll require too much time to charge and he can fuck us up bad.

What do you think of my above idea? Axanael could also work through smash down his defenses; we could just go 6 of 6 with axanael and caesar but that seems dangerous but AZ could be the safer option.
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>>3375948
Honestly the only thing that looks like a sure winner to me Is ABSOLUTE ZERO. In theory It could freeze them down to the molecules and cause them all to explode In a hail of terrible shrapnel. but that's far better than an active murder swarm. I almost want to say to fire It twice after we get CRUX BOOSTER this round and see how that fares, then try to mop up best we can, Dual revolvers could work, or Dual wielding providence since It can parry projectiles with a distortion field any of the revolvers.

Hey, the base defenses are still around aren't they? Could we have Kazuya fire them Into the swarm?

Here's my vote as of right now

>>3375924
Free actions

>Crux BOOSTER
>Activate Auspex
>Reload PEACEMAKER using CELL

Actions
>Load 2 silver Cartridges
>Tell Kazuya to ready the base defenses, have him wait until we fire Absolute zero
>Fire Absolute 0 twice Into the swarm of blades to break them
>Have Providence to parry and Axanael In hand, fire at Voivod If given a CLEAR SHOT

Anyone else have suggestions? Think this Is good?
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>>3375970
Another thing, tell Kazuya also to use RUBICANTE

Overcharging It's space warping properties could wreak hell on the blades.
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>>3375970
I like this suggestion but maybe switch Caesar with Providence so we can get out some additional Axanael shots if we need it? As long as he keeps coming forward after the first AZ, we keep shooting.
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>>3375948
>>3375970
Guys, if I am reading this correctly, Voivoid's essence core is exposed.
We have an unstoppable gun.
What is there even to think about? We just need to consistently shoot through the sword wall and avoid dying until his swords stop at his death.
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>>3375980
Yeah, I'd start with an AZ first anyway to make them brittle and then just gun caesar/axanael. I don't see anything surviving axanael and az
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>>3375980
Wait a second, remember ENFER? We got terrorsight from him and due to the lacryma his ability was corrupted.

Due to our forging, that ability was un-corrupted. We can choose to do one of two things once, at the cost of access to Auspex and Argus bonuses.

We can either find a micro-flaw In something armor and Ignore armor with one precision-based attack, OR. We can choose to make one utterly perfect, unmissable shot.

Why don't we put either a Peacemaker or an Axaneal shot dead In his heart If It's exposed? Is It worth risking our sensors to Insta-gib him?
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>>3375946
god VOIVOD is a kill stealing bitch.

providence can send out a wave of tachyons to erase incoming attacks. it also gives us a dodge bonus, and tachyons might be the only thing we have that affects orichalcum.

can we use the emulator module on providence?

a vitae boosted void chain mine might suck them into nothing, or it might not.

Absolute Zero might work, but orichalcum is fairly resistant.

dual fortress mode with deagal might let us weather the storm, but I'm not sure.

alternatively we could fire catoblepas and hope the knives aren't as immune as VOIVOD.

or we could grab deagal and run, the storm seems a bit slow.
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>>3376037
Deagal used fortress mode against Trigon, It can't be that strong right now.

Catoblepas didn't work on a direct hit, It certainly won't work with the Weaker AoE effect.

I say 2 Ab zero's sweeping through the storm back and forth could probably do It, It's not certain but It's our best bet.

I think the chain mine could do damage, but It certainly wouldn't get the whole 5 meters of orichalum.

No, we can't use Emulator on providence, Providence Is a relic beyond It's capabilities.

We can't run anywhere, we're stuck on a platform that's being moved across dimensions.
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>>3376037
Few issues with this
>Providence will not be able to dodge/block 5/6 different sword attacks. It wasn't able to stop Klaive's single sword and Orichalcum is too strong for this.
>Can't use Emulator on Providence
>VB chain mine is such a catacylsmic weapon it'll rip the fucking deck in half; even if it doesn't, it will create a massive hole in the deck and Vovoid is moving in a straight line towards us so either it will hit him close to us or he'll move straight out of its range. Plus, the actual range of the grenade itself.
>If AZ hits his core, he's dead. If it hits his swords, they're gone or damaged, ripe for a follow up with Caesar + Axanael.
>Fortress mode is a terrible call because Daegal's has already been damaged and he will slice straight through it plus, why would we let a blender close into melee?
>The blades are Orichalcum, they are immune to catoblepas. Only Neutronium or something as powerful as AZ could pop it.
>Running won't stop him from just chasing us down.

Your Peacemaker suggestion resulted in us not having lvl 3 Black Frost which almost killed us, please be more careful with your suggestions.

>>3376001
This is a great follow up if he somehow survives 1 AZ and 6 axanael shots. A peacemaker + terrorsight or terrorsight + rubicante could definitely finish him.
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>>3376001
>>3376118
I am in agreement with these two. Our best bet is the double A zero. Follow up with axanel and Caesar combo. Depending on how axanel works we should definitely consider the use of terror sight. Because we have no idea how the bullet will be effected by a hail of blades slashing and smashing against it. I also recommend we use the scrander to get off the ground so we have 3d maneuverability for dodging
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>>3376118
fine, then cast Exec_Disrupt on the blade cloak from the Nihil Sphere or Harmonia.

The more powerful disrupt won't cost us any vitae or meter, but it will save our asses.
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>>3376845
Don't think that'll be needed given absolute zero and the 6 axanael shots to follow; disrupt becomes increasingly weaker the more you use it against an opponent and he may expect us to disrupt again.

But charging face first into a massive ice blast (potentially 2) before turrets, incoms and two revolvers DELETE the mother fucker? That'll be great.
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>>3376118
We got fucked because we were trying two fundamentally different plans.

Rushing Trigon and counting on the Sinistral failed because he had a two part breath weapon and the Sinistral only blocked one part. Even if we hadn't used Peacemaker and relied on Black Ice for longer we would have still been swatted out of the sky like gnats.

I was 100% wrong about the Disrupt plan though, fucking spot on.

A shame that Voivod is a kill stealing bitch, but at this point he might be worth 2 or 3 levels.
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>>3376876
We haven't used Disrupt on VOIVOD, so it will be at full strength. And even stronger if cast from the Nihil sphere.

it will also stop the orichalcum blade storm which is going to be HIDEOUSLY damaging to both us and Deagal. And Deagal likely can't survive it at this point.

further we have no assurance that AZ will get all or even most of the blades.

it will likely shatter those it hits, but this is a giant cloud of razors, and Orichalcum is specifically resistant to changes in temperature.

Disrupt Wil solve the issue by denying use of the problematic relic.
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>>3376845
I mean, this Isn't a bad plan but If It doesn't work- we're fucked. We're dead.

I'd get behind casting It from Harmonia or the Nihil, It doesn't matter which It Is, as long as we don't spend meter. If It works then great we have more focus on Voivod and If It doesn't we have a backup via Ab Zero so we aren't turned Into metal confetti.

>>3376901
Imagine what we'll get as our bonus effects though. Think we might manage his auto-repair passive, or his tech-boosting passive? If we get a forge related passive and multiple levels I say we put a point In EVO and *finally* unlock the Red Jokers ability to make top tier customized weapons, and start by making the golden fucker Into something nice. Maybe a revolver. Maybe a longsword to complement Providence.
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Here is what I am thinking.
> Absolute O first off.
> Axanel and Caesar dual wield.
> Get daegal to use the fusion beamer or rubicante and cagnazzco
> Position the cannon bits at daegal so we force vovoid to divert his blades to shield the assault from an angle different to us.
> Go ham with axanel and Caesar until we are out of bullets.
> Fly up with the scrander equip Golgotha overhead smash and then Golgotha uppercut sweep.
> If he's still alive let's use the axel grips to finish as it should cut through the core and the blades
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>>3376956
Absolute Zero is the safer choice, we shouldn't use Disrupt. It costs too much and it's purely defensive. AZ lets us attack AND defend by either instantly destroying his core or peeling some of his swords away and letting Axanael do the work.

>>3376901
Peacemaker was never the right call imo because it lost us Providence lvl 3, which would have caused continuous damage over time and Black Frost lvl 3 which we would still be in right now and have all of the advantages of being able to spam shatter blasts and instantly heal lost arms and legs.

>>3376931
The riftspikes are items of Vovoid and if Orichalcum can resist ice, they can resist codebursts. Not only that, the issue with this is that AZ, if it hits his swords, destroys them. If it hits the core, it destroys him. But, if it doesn't, we can follow up with 6 axanael shots through that weakened defensive outer shield.

However, if disrupt fails, we get nothing because none of the swords will be affected and we'll have to use all 12 shots trying to punch through those swords. The choices are either
>Potentially insta-kill him or just destroy his swords
>Potentially destroy all of his swords or just do nothing

If this attack fails, we need to be in position for a follow up. AZ takes less so it's better for a follow up and, potentially, we'll be able to cast SMITE next turn. I would rather save the Nihil Sphere and the Harmonia for this fight because currently, we are in the winning position.

>>3377012
This, plus getting Daegal to fire all the turrets at him, could work. The combination of the 5 incoms, all of the turrets Daegal and us bought, the Absolute Zero aimed at his essence core, auspex, argus sensor and the 12 shots from caesar and axanael should be enough.

Even if it isn't, we can *still* switch to Golgotha/dual arms and use Blutsauger + Carnifex + Golgotha/dual arms + The Quickening to deliver a single attack with Herculean strength and speed into the core while doing automatic essence damage.

This is in a scenario though where freezing your opponent on a molecular level and using 6 neutronium bullets + 6 phosphorous bullets isn't enough.

Also, ice *does* effect Orichalcum. So do fire and electricity; we've seen Daegal be hit by all three at one point or another and the way AZ works its transmutation isn't by changing matter, it's by freezing it so hard it snaps which does work on orichalcum as I've said.

Just play it smart, keep him at range with the turrets + bits, blast him to shreds and maybe finish with either dual crisis arms or golgotha for the win.
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>>3377050
Hey, Absolute zero was my go to plan I was just acknowledging that Disrupt wasn't the worst call If we got a '''free''' cast out of It via Harmonia (We just got It refilled too, we could afford It) and went In with a backup. If It works we're almost home-free, If It doesn't we're fucked without a backup which Is why Absolute Zero Is what I was pushing for.

I will say If we close to melee I'd be okay with Golgatha, though Providence was a safer bet In my eyes because we don't need both arms. If we need a hand to quickly do something other than kill with Golgatha we would have that hand with Providence out.

Of course, Golgatha certainly did prove It's nay-sayers wrong last thread. The Axe *does* work.
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>>3377102
It's more at that point if he's that close, we need to not just block his swords but destroy them. That's the sole reason I'm suggesting Golgotha if he's closed the distance; it's the only weapon I can see shredding through multiple orichalcum weapons and cut to the core behind it IF anything's left. Providence won't be enough to block all of those swords just like we couldn't stop Crimson Klaive with it alone.

I'd rather use SMITE if we're going to use Harmonia but I think Nihl Sphere would be better than Harmonia as its easier to charge and stronger than Harmonia. Either way, lets save that for if there's something left after next turn.
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>>3375924
all right here's my actual vote

>cast an enhanced Exec_Disrupt from the Nihil Sphere on the blade storm.

The blade storm seems like an area of effect attack and we already know VOIVOD can essentially summon infinite blades.

>load as many silver cartridge as possible.

>if the blade storm is still up fire AZ into it.

>if not, activate the argus sensor for an accuracy boost and fire Axanel.

I'm a little worried that Axanel will disrupt the warp envelope, but it's our best bet against the orichalcum sphere (VOIVOD fortress mode?)

>If Axanel doesn't destabilize the warp envelope draw Cesaer in the other hand and fire both guns at VOIVOD as many times as possible.

>If Axanel is too risky, swap it for the Tau Gun and Cesaer.

We know that anti-matter works on everything, orichalcum included.

As for Deagal and the Incoms

>Dirac channel him to equip Adamant for the HP boost and shielding.

>if it looks like he is going to be enveloped by the blade storm have all 5 incoms boost him out of the way.

>if not use the Incoms in Cannon mode to unload on VOIVOD.
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>>3377162
The blade storm is a literal hail of orichalcum knives. Think of it like a higher damage version of Exec_Swarm that ignores most defenses.

OP typically only uses the term "damnation cloud" Or similar to refer to AoE attacks.

Using a melee weapon to destroy a swarm is exactly as effective as you might expect.

Providence might prove an exception with it's tachyon wave ability. similar to how Adamant swallowed up swathes of our Swarm when we fought him in the Hyades tournament.

other than that we would need access to Protocols to use a melee weapon to block all incoming attacks. An ability displayed by several Gaunt class players.
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>>3377534
>We would need access to Protocols to use a melee weapon to block all incoming attacks. An ability displayed by several Gaunt class players.

Stop, you're getting me excited at the prospect that we might pick up Terrible Swift Sword after this. Taking one of the greatest superhuman swordsmen of all time's skills and using them with weapons like Golgatha or Providence... guh. The damage we could do with that kind of Inhuman reaction speed on top of our own skills, mobility, forebode, Precog and Carnifex. We'd be an utter monster, we'd Instantly become deadlier than anyone we know In melee, bar none.

You know out of all the upgrades we could take that or one of the SURVIVE upgrades to balance our HP situation with the carnifex, CRUX and ENCROACHMENT are the best things we could get In my opinion. I know I've been ridiculed for my opinion but I really think HP would be a great thing to get right now because It makes the above things safer to use, and It's only rivaled by TSS In my mind. The ability to not just strongly compete but to utterly dominate offensively and defensively In melee would make us a monster. Not to mention the projectile parrying madness.

Probably the wrong time to start drooling about upgrades, but It couldn't hurt to think about considering we may very well get one or more than one here shortly.
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>>3377534
We could detonate the desperado shroud to open up the sword storm for the Golgotha attack.also it's a last resort sorry of move , because if none of the other options work.golgotha is our strongest weapon that won't wreck the fate.

>>3377661
TSS is not usable with golgotha. Golgotha has its own oblivion husk ability. Which if we are getting an oblivion husk ability I will vote for Golgotha. Depending on what we get from vovoid(I suspect an Armoury of swords similar to what we have with the old jokers guns). If we get that TSS is a great idea
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>>3377711
Last resort sort of move*
And won't wreck the gate*.
Sorry phone typos
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>>3377711
Here's the Oblivion's Husk description.

>Every previous Red Joker has left his or her mark on the armor - Not merely their memories or the echoes of their power, but their means of dealing death. The sixth inheritor of the title was one of the greatest - If not *the* greatest - swordsman the Red World has ever known, and may have dueled Phantom Edge to the death. Or he may have *been* the wielder of the Fatal Abyss.

>The armor's recollection of his skills are incomplete, but even his imperfect skills are exceedingly deadly. He may have been the first to find a way to channel his inherent Essence to further augment his skills, beyond what would be humanly possible. Paradoxically, this catalog of feints, parries and killing blows are impossible for a non-Player to execute - Without myomer musculature and endosteel bones, you could kill or cripple yourself trying.

>(tl;dr - You gain access to Protocols, the weapon skills used by weapon-focused players like Bishamon, Phantom Edge and Abyss Caracharis. The previous Red Joker invented a personal style entirely for his own use, to be used in conjunction with the armor's abilities - You can now wield these abilities with a Lachryma surcharge.

>Notably, these Protocols are flawed - Until an individual skill is mastered through use, they're not quite as potent as the original.)

Did OP ever state that Protocols would not be able to be with Golgatha or non-sword melee weapons? Unless he did I don't see why not, It's a melee weapon after all and Protocols seem to affect the user, not the weapon. In any case It doesn't seem to show that here, though upon reread we would have to 'break them In' before the Protocols reached their maximum level of potency, but considering who these are copied from I still expect them to be extremely potent as Is.

Furthermore apparently this skill *also* takes Encroachment to use, so If we get multiple levels It'd definitely be a good idea to take an HP bonus somewhere.
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>>3377857
Anon that's some very creative thinking there. It's says the ability is from the greatest "swordsman" not the greatest axe wielder. Now I don't know about what you know about weapons but there is a world of difference between using a sword and using an axe. Secondly why would there be an ability explicitly called Golgotha and you think that another ability is infact going to allow to use the axe more completely called terrible swift "sword" not terrible swift axe or terrible swift Lance.. Thirdly the tldr only states swordwielders as examples of protocol users and it directly stated the red joker could previously have been phantom edge. Does phantom edge use axes as it's preference weapon.
If you want to shill for the ability fine, but don't mislead other less informed anons, with creative descriptions of ability uses Like when they thought the emulator module could emulate any relics cause with can emulate the crisis arm alone.
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>>3378221
Just like when anons thought the emulator module could emulate any relics we owned. Rather then just crisis arm.
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>>3378221
Really anon? You're actually attacking my Integrity like I'm trying to mislead people because you say I want to 'shill'. Yes, I do want the ability but hold on now let me respond appropriately.

Now If OP comes In and confirms your 'sword only' statement then fine so be It, but looking at the ability It specifically notes that

>He may have been the first to find a way to channel his inherent Essence to further augment his skills, beyond what would be humanly possible.

This sounds like an enhancement of skill and reflex to me, not just a particular weapon buff. Yes, most Gaunt players *do* use swords and that's why you think that but you brought up Phantom Edge-

Phantom Edge used an assortment of weapons with terrifying skill. He first used his bare fist to kill Rook In one shot, then he used a Scythe made from him to hold off Daegal and Haze both, he later Impaled us with a Harpoon, then he used thrown daggers with critical accuracy and then pulled out an obsidian axe and fought us with It, which we broke because we had a superior weapon. If you are correct In your assessment that TSS Joker was Indeed Phantom Edge then aren't you helping my case, considering how skillfully he used several non-sword weapons? (Especially the scythe, which he had no time to practice with no less)

Yes of course Phantom Edge's preferred weapon was the Fatal Abyss, because It was one of the most powerful weapons ever created. It one-shots most anyone and destroys any non neutronium, orichalcum or strong energy field weaponry In one strike. If on top of all that he was so far gone as to be Immune to It's negative effects or even tied to It In a state of broken Immortality, why wouldn't he prefer It?

As to your statement that It only states Swordwielders, while mostly correct, It does note that It says 'Weapon focused' players, not 'Sword-focused'.

If you don't like the ability or think I was specifically calling you out with my post be assured I'm trying to state what I think TSS does, not bullshit people.

I do like the ability, I think based on the description and what I know It seems very likely that Protocols could very well be compatible with non-swords, and think for a glorious Instant how wonderful It would be If we could use that level of skill with a fully awakened Golgatha.

Until OP confirms that you are right, I'm going to assume based on what I see that It's not so limited as to only be confined to swords as It seems to be a state In which the user enhances their reflexes and even perhaps uses a hyper-sped up catalog of pre-programmed movements to automatically counter any given attacks possibly before the user can even fully process It, hence 'Protocols'. Perhaps. We don't know.

I guess to fully know one way or another we'll have to wait for OP to confirm. Maybe next time though don't assume the worst and go for the throat, huh anon? People don't appreciate It.
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>>3377711
>>3377756
We own the original Golgotha, ergo we don't need to -activate- the oblivion husk ability to use it. therefore we can use it in conjunction with other abilities.

it remains to be seen what we need to do to fully access Golgotha's abilities. perhaps get the oblivion husk so we can sync with it, or upgrade attunement like any other relic.

As a point of curiosity, I wonder what happens if we take PRIMARY RANGED WEAPON.

do we get two Beam Magnums?

personally I favor Tier 2.5, Golgotha, or TSS. with Shield Incoms, Emulator Module upgrade, and Providence upgrades all tied somewhere below.

not -entirely- sure what to do about HP.

SURVIVE is likely a good option, but the last time we went for a direct HP upgrade it was underwhelming. Directly upgrading the Sinistral is an option, but one that might fare no better.

of course all this speculation is based on previous upgrade trees and may not apply.
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>>3378677
I have a hypothesis that PRIMARY MELEE WEAPON and PRIMARY RANGED WEAPON are the Carnifex and the Beam Magnum respectively. I know It might sound odd, but I believe In the Equip Doc they were referred to as the Items that served as a Joker's 'Badges of Office'. It's possible In the PRIMARY slots next Level Up we'll simply have the Carnifex and the Beam Magnum as upgrades.

For HP, when was the last time we *did* a direct upgrade? I honestly can't remember, outside of GUARD giving us 10% with IMPACT REDUCTION and the Zenith upgrade I think giving us 30% back at the Hollow Sun.

In any case It will partially depend on how many Levels we get to spend that will Influence our choices. Lastly, about Golgatha, while I wouldn't mind at all Upgrading It to It's full potential as It's proved Itself a beast It seems to be upgrading Itself as we kill things with It, so do we even need to spend a Level Up on It? Possibly, but It's something to think about.

A Providence upgrade would be wonderful considering It frees up our shield and other hand while still doing significant work and offers a lot of versatility, but I'm not sure If I want to commit to It. As Is using Providence requires you to dedicate time to gain access to It's full abilities. Perhaps an Upgrade would Improve It's lethality and abilities while *also* reducing the time restrictions to use It's full potential.
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>>3375924
Are these blades also made of Super Gold?
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>>3378947
Yes. It's rather terrifying, Isn't It? 5 by 5 meters of swirling, lethal, Incredibly resilient blades.

We've got a plan though, don't worry.
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>>3378991
I get the feeling that JQOP is prioritizing optimium decisions, since the AX gun seems like a good choice against this current form.
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>>3378702
Did we actually ever upgrade the assault shroud? I think its upgrades were always from external factors. It could be a good idea to give it an upgrade.
Sinistral is damaged, so we can't rely on it right now.

I think getting the primary ranged weapon would be a good idea. My guess is that it builds a trifecta with the vulcans (huge fire volume, low damage) and the tau gun (slow and delayed fire but huge damage).

I bet Survive would do more than just add HP. The upgrades always have secondary effects.


However, I assume that the Cestus might be capable of getting more upgrades. Gold cartridges, for example.
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>>3379022
No, we never did upgrade the shroud with a level, just with Argent and the Sun.

>>3379022
I mean we've got a host of Revolvers and soon the Beam Magnum as a sniper and ultimate 'fuck you' gun. Do we really need more gun over core bonuses?

Survive would be very good with dealing with the risk surrounding the Carnifex and Encroachment, It just depends on what secondary effect we want. Re-supply might be useful for what It Implies, but so might whatever the 'Frame Integrity' upgrade was. Or maybe just Vitality Boost for loads of HP If that's what that Is.

>Gold Cartridges
I'm scared of what could possibly be beyond the madness that Is Silver Cartridges, all 3 of the Silver Cartridge abilities are absurdly powerful.

>Inb4 one of them Is the biggest Ice punch that was ever Ice punched. Nuclear Iceblast tier Ice punch.

Want.
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>>3377857
Yes, he already said terrible swift sword affects swords only.

Lets stop speculating about getting upgrades until we see the list but getting Survive or anything that ISN'T damage related would be really wasteful. Damage now contributes to
>Meter
>Defense (Photonic Halo)
>Offense (The Quickening)
>Health regen
>Booster regen
Damage is king now. Plus so many of our weapons are integrated together now that it would be foolish to not focus on damage.
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>>3378702
The Carnifex isn't listed as a weapon. Our primary melee weapon is the Crisis arm, our primary range weapon are the plasma vulcans; these upgrades add alternatives.

The reforging gave us a number of Survival upgrades; better armor quality, increased health, faster reflexes and more damage. Guard boosts musculature + armor quality. As >>3379302 said, damage is king.
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>>3379006
I think he prioritises good choices that keep the fight interesting yeah.
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>>3379041
Resupply just refills expensed materials. We've already gotten it; the forge basically upgraded + combined our gear.
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>>3375928
>>3375938
>>3375944
>>3375948
>>3375970
>>3377012
>>3377357
>>3377534

Moaning and chattering, with that hideous steel-on-steel shriek, the storm of swords surges towards you. The furious light of VOIVOID's core gleams across those hungry blades, as the whirring cloud ploughs forward – the chirring knives glittering like a galaxy of razors, swarming forward with a singular, unstoppable momentum.

“Shit-!” There's dismay in Daegal's voice, as he takes a step back – But there's nowhere to run, nowhere to go other than the infinite void on all sides. No cover from the rushing circle of spinning blades, their cycle-rate increasing until all you can hear is that droning hum. Until all you can see is that rippling arc of black steel, with a harvester's lethal rotation-

Kazuya.

“Wha-”

*Shoot.*

Your words jar him out of the shock that's seized him. His hand shakes, as he levels RUBICANTE, CAGNAZZO in his other hand. Daegal's first shots sear across the distance, tracers whipping forward in a hail of flaming blue rounds, RUBICANTE's thunder a counterpoint to the rapid-fire blaze from his other handgun.

It is like firing into a furnace. Bullets flicker and dance across the spinning black blades, whining shrilly away – Each round from the red-iron Colt fireballs against the interlocking lattice of swords, blasting some to the side, sending them tumbling like leaves in a hurricane...But the storm has it's own momentum, more blades pulsing from the rotating central mass to replace to knocked out of alignment.

“It's not,” Daegal says, desperately. “It's not *working*-”

Again.

He doesn't stop shooting, dropping the clip, slamming in another, firing both guns as quickly as they cycle. You hear his rasping gasps through his speakers – Facing an enemy is one thing. Staring down this advancing horror is another, as it advances implacably, heedless of the bursts of semi-auto fire that rake across it.

All right, then.

How about this?

You bring AXANAEL up, the CAESAR in your left hand. You aim without haste, the barrel swinging up – Your mono-optic sensor whirring as it cycles, focusing. Zooming in.

You fire. The recoil slams through your arm's pistons, your form braced as the big iron bangs. The sound is a thunderclap, louder even that RUBICANTE's roar. The single round spins as it burns through the air, so heavy it seems to drag a rippling wake of distorted space with it – So small, it instantly vanishes, swallowed up by VOIVOID's swirling bulk-

There is a shriek. An awful, grinding shriek, like the gears of a machine turning the wrong way. Colorless sparks fly, the lattice of blades momentarily paralyzed, straining against the utterly inexorable force of the neutronium bullet that drills against them – *into* them – fighting to deflect or shatter what cannot be overcome-

(Continued)
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>>3379518

Burning spheres spit from the CAESAR. Each shot spears across the distance, white-hot and churning, detonating with a sound like a roll of applause.

But each time you wrench the trigger-

Faster than you could ever hope to wrench back the hammer, AXANEL fires again. And *again*.

The storm breaks. The cyclic rotation whirls out of alignment, blades crossing, colliding, smashing against one other. Swords fly in all directions, flung apart by their own furious rotation – a machine becoming unwound. Hiltless knives spin out, whipping past you, lancing point-first into the iron on all sides – A terrible *snapping* sound echoing through the white noise of the void, as the first oriachulcum sword shatters beneath the inexorable, unstoppable force-

“That's it-!” Daegal yells, even as brass clatters to the ground around his feet, spent shells dissolving into churning motes. “Shoot him *more*-”

But it is not dead. Not even slightly. Fresh blades slide out of nowhere to replace the broken and dislodged ones, the pattern warping, twisting upon itself. Forming a new configuration. It is like a hideous magician's trick, as VOIVOID's fury beats against you like a palpable force-

-A flicker of premonition-

You wrench your right arm up, the CRISIS ARM materalizing in a churning swirl of crimson light. DESPERADO flares, as the burning mantle writhes around you – Your Assault Shroud stiffening, going hyperdense, as the first rotating slash carves a deep furrow across the hardened nanomaterial, all the way to the core.

It is a distortion of space. A power that extends the cutting edge of a blade across a vast distance – Devastating, when applied to a dozen oriachulum knives at once. Your Sword Bits whirl around you, in furious orbits of defense, sparks flying as the slicing waves – a flurry of stabs and slashes – carve into them in a furious ringing peal. The surface of your Assault Shroud is chewed away, as the invisible swords hack and carve into you-

You have to drop the CAESAR. There's no other way. PROVIDENCE burns to life in your hands, as your HUD lights up with ghost-echoes of the future. The whirring edges meet the tachyon blade like the pealing of razor bells, and for one blank instant you find yourself spinning through blows like hail, black-tipped blurs slicing out of the dark towards you, all six weapons churning in furious defensive velocities as the air boils and rips at your form in every direction at once.

You can't stop them all. A slash opens up your gorget – Another slices the photonic mantle so hard, rotating chips of scarlet energy fly free. Scars criss-cross the Crisis Arm, rents opening up in your armor, coolant fluids and black oil gushing like blood-

(Continued)
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>>3379542
Guys, next time listen to me when I say "Providence cannot block a storm of swords" okay? With Golgotha, we could carve through this.
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>>3379542

Somewhere, through the barrage – There's an eagle's shrieking cry, as Daegal's Familiars take flight, hurling them into the way. They are chopped and sectioned, carved again and again, the *fffzzzzkkk* of their deaths lost in the churning teeth of the storm.

“-Eat this-”

The first missile thunders in, on a twisting plume of grey smoke. It slams into VOIVOID's gurning mass, the explosion shooting smoke and fire through the polluted air. The second rocket from Kazuya's launcher – the same one he used to kill SEPIA PRISON – detonates in a surging fireball, indestructible blades hurled away from the rippling concussion.

The ground shakes, beneath you. Daegal staggers back, swearing, the weight of his oversized weapon tilting him back. But he's bought you a moment, your armor gashed in a dozen places, your right arm hanging limp at your side, sparks shooting from the ruin of your shoulder, carved again and again, PROVIDENCE burning with guttering emerald flame in your left hand-

VOIVOID was ready for this. That's why he gorged himself on their lives, bloated himself on their essence. Hoarding power for this moment, sacrificing all for a chance to escape.

You don't have to imagine what he'll do, if he does.

The circling ribbon of blades seems to *split*, firing it's mass in a razor torrent. A hail of knives spears towards the pedestal that holds the Joker's Memory, a pelting black torrent that shears forward with the brittle hiss of acceleration-

HP: 81%
VITAE BOOSTER: 79% (SIGMA CHARGE ACTIVE)
ASSAULT SHROUD: 31%
METER: 27%
ENCROACHMENT: 19%
REVOLVERS: CAESAR (4/6) / PEACEMAKER (4/6) / AXANAEL (2/6)
CARTRIDGES: SILVER (X1)

CRUX: BOOSTER
PHOTONIC MANTLE ACTIVE
BANDOLIER (CELL) ACTIVE

YOU HAVE CONTROL
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>>3379547
(Gentlemen, I must turn in for the night, but I'll continue at the first opportunity. Note that your Photonic Mantle is still active, and that - while it has a protective effect - damage taken subtracts from your Meter, as a trade-off.)
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>>3379547
Double absolute zero and Golgotha. End it.
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>>3379548
Thanks for the update op, god bless.
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>>3379547
What happens if the Joker's Memory is destroyed?
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>>3379554
(The field collapses, and everyone dies.)
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>>3379554
No beam magnum and everything collapses. Double fortress mode over it?
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>>3379550.
Voting for this. Sigma charge if possible
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>>3379557
OP, would we have enough actions per a turn to fire 3 absolute zeros and use golgotha in that order?
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>>3379550
This, but let's give daegal axanel of possible so he can lay the pain on too
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>>3379547
(My apologies, AXANAEL should be 3/6.)

>>3379560
(No. It's all or nothing - When you fire the Cestus, you fire all the Cartridges currently loaded. You don't fire three times, you fire one shot with multiple extra projectiles.

When wielding GOLGOTHA, you can use nothing else but that weapon each turn.)
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>>3379557
Also op can you confirm that Terrible Swift Sword is for swords only and not Golgotha
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>>3379567
So can we fire the absolute zeros and then use golgotha?
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>>3379572
Three absolute zeroes and crisis arm + sigma then
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>>3379544
Makes me glad that JQOP runs when I'm asleep so that I don't have to get into these arguments.

I don't have any idea of how our skills or weapons do and it looks like most people don't but we survive by the skin of our teeth anyway. You herd each other like cats and I just get to enjoy the show.
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>>3379547
"Didn't expect you to give up so easily, Voivoid. In the end, your fight for survival was meaningless. It's like you never really cared about seeing the real world again."
(I want to make a short statement that might sow doubts in his mind, and I'm fully aware that three sentences is too much)

Our best bet is to put something between the memory and the knives.
Fimbulwinter, for example. I don't remember if it was a Silver ability, though.

Throw all of our sword bits into the grinder.
We only have one arm and that arm has providence. We can't use caesar to augment axanael. Is the railgun maybe faster firing?

Would a swarm of 16 concussive missiles be able to divert the swords?

Needless to say, fortress mode the pedestal and let Kazuya do the same.


Also, the fucker really knows how to powerlevel.
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>>3379619
I am amazed over and over again that amount of times people make absolutely god awful choices, don't understand how the moveset works, seem to deliberately try to misunderstand how it works, do not think about what comes after turn after urn

>>3379647
Don't say anything. Joker replies to people, he doesn't spit insults freely and this dude is far too insane to give a shit what we say.

>>3379574
I vote for this.
>Three absolute zeros into Vovoid
>Pump Crux into Health so we'll heal our arm back
>Send the sword incoms to block and form a fortress mode around the memory
>Dual crisis arms + blutsauger + the quickening

This should be enough to end it.
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>>3379661
This
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>>3379661
Changing my vote to this.
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>>3379661
This, why the fuck didn't we spit out an Absolute Zero to begin with
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>>3379799
Don't think we got the option because we were all saying AZ.

Are we still in Carnifex?

>>3379547
Are we not in Carnifex anymore?
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>>3379547
this is -exactly- why we should have used DISRUPT.

our Shroud is down to 31% it's possible that the blades will carve right through it.

And we only have one silver cartridge.

He isn't actually trying to destroy the Gate, he just wants one of us to jump in front of it so he can eviscerate them. That or he expects he can live through the passage even if the field collapses. While we are distracted he's going to advance and flay us.

>crux to HP

>fortress mode around the controls
>Have Deagal fortress mode around that if possible
>Pay for Incoms from vitae and have them fire in Cannon mode at the blades

>Cast Exec_Disrupt on the blade storm from Nihil sphere.
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>>3379799
You can't really blame the voters for that since a large number of the voters wanted to do it. The problem is either that the QM consolidates votes to whatever is most dramatic without killing us, or literally no one except him truly understands how the rules work and he won't tell us how certain actions preclude others unless we specifically ask.
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>>3379811
If his blades can resist neutronium there is no way in hell disrupt would have done anything.

When invoked, this Codeburst abruptly overrides the protocols that allow an enemy Player to manifest Relics and weapons - Momentarily disarming them, and 'locking out' the item for a time. *Certain Relics may be especially resilient against this, as are Players with a higher System Access Authority than yours.*

We are fortunate we didn't.

>>3379820
It's irrelevant. We still have the Carnifex. 3 absolute zeroes shot at once should end this. Even if it doesn't, dual crisis arms/carnifex/quickening/blutsauger will.
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>>3379820
>The problem is either that the QM consolidates votes to whatever is most dramatic without killing us

A troubling thought.

>Literally no one except him truly understands how the rules work and he won't tell us how certain actions preclude others unless we specifically ask.

This Is my biggest grievance with this quest, getting Information on how things work Is like pulling teeth. Undoubtedly It contributes to the playerbase being misinformed and suggesting wonky courses of action (Which get taken no less) and just generally not knowing basic things like 'How much can Joker do In a turn'. Seriously, I would love to know how many actions Joker gets, and what attacks/actions take multiple of those and under what circumstances we might gain or lose additional actions and so on and so forth.

I'm trying my goddamnedest but I don't actually know how to play this game, and It's frustrating. I feel like I'm just supposed to make an educated guess and roll with It.
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>>3379823
resisting neutronium has nothing to do with susceptibility to codebursts. the two subjects aren't even tangentially related.

One is related to the fact that the sword field was made of Orichalcum. Orichalcum is a type of material on par with neutronium for durability and potential to do damage. Therefore the neutronium bullet damaged the field, and the field damaged the bullet.

EXEC_DISRUPT doesn't care about durability. it just denies the target the use of that relic by making it unavailable. The field could be made of tachyons, neutronium, orichalcum, dark energy, or anything else and it still wouldn't matter.

The -ONLY- relic we have ever seen that resisted DISRUPT is our own Crisis Arm. And that only happened due to a system error interacting with our identity as Frost Cestus

The reason I want to cast it from the Nihil Sphere is to boost its power. If you can't guess the Red Joker already has a high level of ACCESS AUTHORITY. Boosting the power with the Nihil Sphere makes it more likely to succeed even against someone like VOIVOD.
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>>3379661
Voting for this. I'm gonna assume you know what you're doing because I don't.

>>3379820
>>3379911
It's not unusual to see at least one "why the fuck did you pick the dumbest option with the least votes" when OP posts hours after the voting is over. Sure confuses the hell out of me how votes are interpreted sometimes and it's been going on since the beginning.
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>>3379911
>how many actions a turn
5.
Attacks take up an action, so does movement unless you're using something like the jets or the jet pack. We lose actions for changing especially heavy weapons, like chagan, reloading the revolvers or generally changing gear without a weapon.

I think a lot of this can be mitigated by people actually reading the equipment list when it comes to weapon usage wise. I'm pretty sure basically no one remembers that the Sinistral level 2 is a thing, that Disrupt can't break certain kinds of equipment, that the Scrander can cause damage on contact when we're boosting around with it but once you do read that list that only *exacerbates* problems.

What's the difference in speed between vector bits + scrander or just scrander?
How do you actually repair gear?
Can we use the crux to repair the sinistral now that it's damaged?
Does doing attacks with the crisis arm behind them make them stronger or not?
Which exec bursts take an action and which don't?

It's pretty clear that *some* anons understand the system given some of the moves we've seen lately like disrupt on the spikes, that providence wouldn't work, that the orthrus crest switch worked last mission, that Golgotha wouldn't be slow so I think a major issue is that a lot of the fanbase just doesn't understand what the RJ can and can't do at a given moment.

>>3379969
>resisting neutronium has nothing to do with susceptibility to code bursts
It actually does. Superdense/super tough materials are much tougher for disrupt to work because superdense materials are resistant in general. We know this because when we've tried to use Disrupt to mess up neutronium in the past, we failed.

Material *does* matter with Disrupt, we've seen this by what can and can't be disrupted. Signature player items + higher system access + stronger materials = Harder to disrupt. This is why Golgotha would be incredibly difficult to disrupt for instance.

Vovoid also has high system access, he's massively juiced on essence, he's made of orichalcum and he's using his signature items for this. It is extremely likely these blades will not be effected by disrupt and, again, why are we disrupting when we can Absolute Zero, smash or freeze his attacks solid and potentially kill him?

>>3379980
This is one thing I've noticed as well. You often tend to find that fights have more of a flip floppy nature and some of the things we do make absolutely no sense from the combination of attacks; especially that Peacemaker one. It was pretty clear it was an either/or thing.

I don't particularly mind though as fights are always interesting, most people get an input and ultimately a lot of why I'm here is the quality of OP's writing and his action scenes.

As things keep getting increasingly lethal though, this is going to become more and more of an issue; the Thief would never have died if we knew more about the system and that Smite would meaningfully slow us for instance.
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I think the thing we need to do is follow a basic set of rules for survival or an operating procedure.
1. Stick to the basics, joker is a glass cannon in its essential nature. We can pack a punch but without black frost we are very vulnerable so no insanity in the first 2 turns or so until we have the situation locked down.
2.play the scene certain moves just make more sense in context. like disrupt on the control spikes or the crest in the middle of a big melee. If it sounds insane it probably is and if you want to suggest it to the group for qualify control leave the suggestion in black. Let's use green for actions we "want" to lock in.
I think if we follow these two procedures initially we will have less did moves suggested and acted on. I am happy if anyone wants to augment or add to the list.
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>>3379661
We should use bandlioer cell to refuel the caesar; can't it and axanael be shot in melee for no penalty?
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>>3379911
Just for my own take on this; it's not helped by the fact that asking questions isn't really possible because OP's responses are sporadic and time is limited; you have to choose between more information or less wait time
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>>3379991
I've read the entire quest, and never noticed DISRUPT being material specific.

It has disabled signature weapons before. most notably on Kraken.

most likely OP rolls our disrupt versus each system independently. hence the seemingly random results. However, as with the control rods we now know we can target specific relics.

further no matter how many blades we destroy the central sphere will just spawn more of them. How we destroy them is likely irrelevant.

I actually suspect that the best move would be to completely forgo defending the controls and focus entirely on VOIVOD while we have an opening. of course, if it isn't a feint we will all die.

so, is VOIVOD hoping to get a free shot while we are distracted, or is he actually willing to kill all of us?

Either way, DISRUPT fucks his plan up. especially since we don't have to remove our focus from him to enact it, so he can't get a free shot in.

If it works we no longer have to worry about the blades. If it doesn't then it costs us nothing because we are casting from Nihil.
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>>3380526
other options.

>deagal could block the blades with Adamant and a fortress mode.

this leaves us free to attack VOIVOD and Deagal would likely survive thanks to the extra HP from Adamant. He probably can't get there in time unless we send him the booster interceptors.

>Expend terrorsight to get a shot off on VOIVOD forcing him to recall the blades for protection.

If we go with this I would suggest Axanel or the axle grips. preferably Axanel.
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>>3380526
Disrupt tried and failed to remove Adamant Aegis' shield because it was solid neutronium and too heavy/stronk to move.

The sphere can generate countless blades; they don't have to be Orichalcum as we already saw when we fought him the first time, they can be other weapons as well. If we freeze or destroy the core with 3 Absolute Zero shots and smash it to bits, it won't matter if he can summon more blades or not and, as we saw from the neutronium shells, we can destroy orichalcum.

Vovoid could be hoping to get a free shot while we're distracted which is why I'd have the bits block it and leave us open to kill him or else at least make it easier for Daegal to block it. Also, casting from Nihl costs us Nihil and the only way to recover it is via Consume right now. It's possible that we can fill it from Booster or Meter but we should ask OP that when he appears.

>>3380595
I don't see axanel or the axel grips doing as much damage as three absolute zeroes but if we're really stuck, we can
>three absolute zeroes
>use the free reload from cell to reload caesar
>use caesar and axanael again from close range as the pistols are perfectly accurate from all distances
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>>3380600
I still think DISRUPT is worth a shot. We are low on everything except Nihil Sphere.

You keep saying 3 absolute zero blasts, but we only have one silver cartridge loaded. I assume that means you want to spend 70% vitae booster to load two more as an action?

How about an alternative? 3 silver cartridges would let us use Black Ice again AND fire shatter burst at will.

shatter burst specifically makes targets slower and more brittle, both things we want to happen to the sword field.

We would also be MUCH more resistant to damage which will be useful this round. Especially since some anons have voted for going full melee on a literal blender.

We could load cartridges, have deagal move to block with Adamant and fortress mode, activate Black Ice, freeze the incoming knives which would make them much less damaging. And if VOIVOD tries to backstab us will will come through more intact.
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>>3381101
>Black Frost
That would be the preferred outcome but we can't split how cartridges are used. If we use Black Frost, we use all 3 at once. If we use Absolute Zero, we use all 3 at once.

We're already in melee now so I think our best bet is the 3 absolute zeroes as I said. I would go for Exec Disrupt from the Nihl sphere next turn if he survives this but I do not see how he'll be able to survive 3 of these ice blasts followed up by axanael + caesar or the twin crisis arms.

The only reason he survived *this* turn is that we weren't able to use absolute zero for some reason despite the carnifex allowing us to load and fire simultaneously.
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>>3381101
or, we could call his fucking bluff.

stand our ground and unload on his core with Axanel/Cesaer, dual tau guns, the Peacemaker, etc.

a shot from Axanel through his core followed by a terrorsight Peacemaker round could be very effective.

Worth noting is that we can't be surprised at the moment, so even if he tries to attack us while we're distracted we can probably engage the scrander And dodge.

speaking of, we should really turn on aquilla mode for better dodges.

I hesitate to engage him in melee this round because he's surrounded by his own personal death storm, but if we were in Black Ice form and using Blutsaeger I would be more comfortable.
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>>3381111
The guy survived an unshielded trip through the void. He is certainly boss material. Dont expect that even a full round of attacks will put an end to him. Especially since he is largely undamaged thus far.

45% seems to be the upper end of HP damage for most weapons given that that's about how much we lose from big attacks. And 98% was two attacks from Golgotha.

5 attacks would be 220%. not enough to completely kill Joker at the height of his HP.

And this guy has been trapped for centuries thinking only of survival and escape. He likely has high HP.

plus Orichalcum will remove it's full value from every attack making it very effective.
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>>3381111
Because we already used our full allotment of actions? One shot from Axanael, two twinned shots from Caesar, loading a Silver Cartridge and 'zooming in'. That is a fuckload of actions.
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>>3381127
>Especially since he is largely undamaged thus far.
Is he?
I read it as him being badly damaged and using the blade storm as his final move.

As for DISRUPT and neutronium, you have to consider that neutronium is balls-hard to actually summon in the first place. Naturally, this means that it resists unsummoning. It's simply too heavy to shift out of or into a player's pocket dimension easily.
Orichalcum, on the other hand, does not seem to have this summon/unsummon resistance.
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>>3381343
reading back through the fight he hasn't taken a single direct attack.

He might have caught a bit from the weapon fire at and explosion of Trigon, but with his armor being what it is I find that doubtful.

We have no idea what the golden orb actually does. For all we know it's similar to the core of the Hollow Sun and he's currently undergoing upgrades to integrate Trigon or level up.

in any event I'm going to reread through the past few turns and finalize my vote.
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>>3381358
He's at least as tough as Kazuya. Explosions don't phase him, he can't be hurt by transmutation weapons. The only weapons sure to hurt him are neutronium ones.
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>>3379811
>>3379547
okay, here's my amended vote after rereading.

>crux to HP

>Dirac to Deagal to use a missile to blast the knife hail off course

>cast EXEC_DISRUPT from the Nihil sphere
>load 2 silver cartridge from Vitae
>activate Black Ice
>Fire Axanel at VOIVOD
>engage the scrander in aquilla mode and try to lure VOIVOD away from the Gate and Deagal

>if he tries the warp knife trick again use the Sinistral to block it

We might also think about bypassing the knife field with a Nihil boosted Exec_Smite, or firing the Tau Gun into it...
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>>3381481
I really don't think we should burn nihil sphere here, on something we aren't certain will work. It's very hard to recharge after all.
Far better to use axanel and terrorsight over exec commands which oriachalium has resisted in the past and he is juiced on alot of essence. We can always save it as a last resort if the absolute O, crisis arms or axanel & Caesar combo doesn't work
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>>3381481
Tau gun won't stop that knife field and if your guess is wrong and he's trying to kill us all out of spite, we're done. He'll destroy the portal, it's gg and everyone dies because the Black Joker will return and make what the Smilers did seem like a joke.

Also, I want to use 2 silver cartridges from meter and booster and use that to use Absolute Zero. Black Frost will just make us a better punching bag at this point and we need to finish this in the next three turns.

>>3381358
He's badly damaged. His entire body got deleted by the void outside and he's literally nothing but his essence core. He didn't kill Trigon either, the void was what destroyed him. Never before has an opponent been stripped to their essence core and kept going; he's literally nothing but his ghost/soul right now and we managed to break his auric armor. Any damage to the core will be huge, we just have to get it.

Voting for >>3379661
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>>3379661
Voting for this.
Reading the list of attack plans. This one makes the most strategic sense to me.
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>>3381544
Our right arm is inoperable at the moment, though.
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>>3381545
That's why they're using crux to heal first
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>>3381546
I don't really get the utility of the Crux heal. It's a really, really small amount. I assume that the bonus is that it's perpetual.
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>>3381547
Basically, you use the Crux heal when a limb is damaged and you need full activity before making a move that turn; 15% health is enough to regenerate limbs and regain limb functionality. It's also an emergency option if health and encroachment are both low; it's basically a safety blanket or a way to regain limb functionality without damage.
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>>3381547
It is more for physicial repair then health increase. So we will have low hp regain but the arm will function again.
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Should we dirac to Daegal to use Ascalon or to get an attack in Vovoid's back while we're distracting him?
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>>3381551
Get him to drop Fortress Mode on the controls if he hasn't already.
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>>3379547
OP, what can we use to charge the Nihl sphere?
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>>3381602
EXEC_CONSUME charges the Nihil Sphere, it always has.

>>3381536
most of this is just plain wrong man.

We don't have enough meter for a cartridge, so both would have to come out of booster.

Black Frost will prevent damage and let us safely close to melee range if we had enough for 4 cartridges it would repair our arm for free.

Trigon was SPECIFICALLY killed by VOIVOD. rammed a sword through his head.

He also isn't "stripped to his essence core" he has covered himself in a sphere of orichalcum that spits out knives.

>>3381517
just reread the proto-deagal fight and we never used DISRUPT. nothing says Orichalcum is especially resistant to it.
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>>3381699
When activated, this Codeburst - Or rather, an inherent ability - allows you to freely utilize your VITAE BOOSTER as your METER, for the purposes of activating special weapons; And, less frequently, vice-versa.

Notably, Power Transfer can only be used for a single purpose each turn - Furthermore, the converted energy still counts as using the VITAE Booster for CYBELE'S EMBLEM and the GNOSIS ENGINE.

We can use meter to charge booster and get 3 shots, not 2.

We don't have enough for four charges and the issue isn't that we can close, it's that when we're there he's just going to keep hammering at us with his blades in a nonstop swarm or summon others to rip us up. We're on 81% HP and we won't have any photonic mantle at that point, with no armor plating either.

Trigon got a sword through the head. That is not enough to kill a Player, especially a lachryma juiced one like Trigon. We've taken hits to the head. Klaive literally had his head quartered and was still alive. Not only that, Harrow was still cast on Trigon proving he was alive until he went out of the sphere.

>>3375924
>Vovoid's core
What other kinds of core are there besides essence cores?

We used Disrupt against Neutronium, it failed and orichalcum gives you a massive boost in system access authority given how strong it is. You're trying to remove a hyper tough, hyper dense material from a player with a massive system access while he has the essence of 60 players accumulated. That is not a good strategy and it's always one we can attempt next turn *anyway* if this doesn't work. Or else a Nihl Smite.
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>>3381699
I don't know why you want to bet meter or the nihil charge on something that does no damage and may not work. Op is not going to give us a second disrupt after the first literally put vovoid in the condition he is in now.

Our safest bet is to stay out of melee, freeze vovoid with absolute zero and hammer at him with axanel and Caesar and of necessary use terrorsight.
We are so close now and you want to gamble that at this climatic moment we will disrupt vovoid and make him a defense less Sphere of essence ? When has this ever happened in JQ. The absolute 0 is guaranteed to work and it will do damage
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>>3381699
>Black Frost will prevent damage
Go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
Black Frost prevents systems damage and critical hits and upgrades our entropic field. We still lose HP normally to attacks.
That is all it does, outside of the lvl 2 and 3 bonuses.

>>3381718
>I don't know why you want to bet meter or the nihil charge on something that does no damage and may not work.
Dude, you are the guy who wants to spend our entire sensory arsenal on this guy.
In terms of long-term costs, NIHL is likely to be easier to restore than our Argus System after Terrorsight.
And yes, I am aware that Terrorsight is basically an instant win button right now. If we are about to die, we will certainly need it.

Untill then, I'm all for absolute zero and Axanael, though. The latter hinges on our ability to restore our arm for Caesar. Axanael can only shoot once a turn otherwise, which is a bit of an issue right now.
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>>3381754
If there was a time where we might need terrorsight , it's now. Its obviously last resort. But we shouldn't hesitate to use it depending on how the next turn goes. If we only have one bullet from axanel this would be the best way to use it. And you know that
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>>3381754
>But you plunge through it. You surge through it, your endothermic field making a lie of the forces directed against you. Ice remembers it's own, vapor swirling as it re-freezes, the rents sealing up as soon as they form.

>>3381718
That post -specifically- called out that we were not targeting VOIVOD. He hasn't been the target of DISRUPT.

>>3381715
Trigon hit the inner ring of the platform and VOIVOD stabbed him through the head so hard it went out the other side and massively damaged the ring prompting deagal to tell us the system couldn't take another hit like that.

afterwards HARROW mysteriously vanished.

destroying a players head or torso kills them, so yes VOIVOD killed Trigon if not with that attack then with whatever ability caused him to become a floating orb of Orichalcum.

Worst case he is absorbing Trigon and will emerge as VOIVOD TRIGON. in fact, that would be just like him to have planned all along.

As for the core thing, OP refers to things as a core of something all the time. He even does it earlier in the thread to refer to Red Joker in ionic black ice form. it does not mean that VOIVOD's essence core is just serenely floating there trying to off us. Especially since there was no attack that could have conceivably damaged him that much. not even close.

lastly, we used DISRUPT against a signature weapon that was actually named for our opponent. Much like Frost Cestus can't be removed from Frost Cestus due to player signature interaction, Adamant couldn't be taken away from Adamant. It had nothing to do with materials. And VOIVOD isn't named Horrible Knife Cloak Guy. his special ability is being made of orichalcum.
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>>3381869
>stabbing players in the head/torso kills them.
No it doesn't. This actually gets brought up repeatedly in the series that only amateurs in the Red World think like this.
>He didn't use the Immolator, for it would never have been enough. Ascalon - too slow, too unwieldy. But Players have no hearts. Phantom Edge's fist grips the blade. OMEN severs two of his fingers, and it changes nothing. Before Kazuya can withdraw the blades - Before he can do more than recoil - the Fatal Abyss comes around in an unfurling sweep.

You kill players by destroying the essence core or spending all of their essence trying to keep themselves alive. It's something that comes up again and again; you attack the head to get the optics, not to head shot. You attack the torso to hit the essence core, not the heart.

Harrow disappears when enemies die. It only disappeared when he left the ring and went over the edge.

When OP is talking about that 'black core', he's talked about the Black Joker's heart, not our essence core. There is a clear difference and this is only the case for the Joker because we've been specifically remodelled to use the Black Joker's heart. His essence core is made of Orichalcum just like the rest of them, he hasn't suddenly gone into a sphere.

>his special ability is being made of orichalcum
>orichalcum blades aren't his unique artefact
Are you listening to yourself? Even following your own logic, it wouldn't work but no, the Adamant is our version of Admant Aegis' neutronium Aegis. It was our first encounter with neutronium and we freaked out.
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>>3381889
>You kill players by destroying the essence core or spending all of their essence trying to keep themselves alive. It's something that comes up again and again; you attack the head to get the optics, not to head shot. You attack the torso to hit the essence core, not the heart.
Actually, Inox Fang had the essence core in the head. We ripped off the face plate of one of the sisters to see what's underneath.

Essence cores can have a variety of locations. Ours actually is in our torso and we've seen players killed by penetrating their essence core through a torso hit.

But yeah, breaking the core is how you kill players. This means those essence core-powered melee weapons are still alive and possibly aware.
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>>3381931
Yeah, seeker guns + meridian blades are still alive. I thought that was just essence leaking out of the face plate though?
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>>3364276
(Gentlemen, with regard to speculation, consider this: Your initial departure from the Underworld, given the nature of compressed time, took no more than a single day as we know it.)

I guess all it takes is a day for 100 years to pass in the Black.
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>>3381889
I didn't say stab, I said destroy. I meant exactly what I said.

And OP has explicitly said that fully depleting the HP of the Head or Torso section of player armor destroys that player.

Mind you I think VOIVOD is using an ability that turns him into a solid sphere of orichalcum to prevent system damage and increase his defence, sort of similar to Black Ice or a fortress mode.

also, if you pay attention the knives and blades are merely chased with orichalcum, not formed entirely of the stuff. they are black with orichalcum foil or edging.

In fact these abilities seem a lot like assault shroud abilities, except that the orichalcum makes them bypass most defenses.

>>3381931
there might be some confusion here between a players internal essence, and their reactor core.

The reactor core merely provides power to various subsystems. Joker has actually had his reactor core destroyed once and lived through it, and at least one of our enemies survived a reactor breach as well. Also players can have multiple reactor cores. Ixion for example had 6.

A players Essence is their soul sealed away inside their armor. Obviously if you've blasted away enough of their armor you can see the light of their essence.
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>>3382165
He didn't though because Trigon's harrow mark only went out when he left the bubble. I've told you this six times now. Trigon was still fighting back and resisting until he went out, then be died instantly and Vovoid came back in this weakened state. There's no other precedent for what a core could be. Not only that, his swords are clearly fucking orichalcum, OP said ad much when they resisted neutronium bullets and when they stabbed into Daegal, piercing his armor, which only neutronium or orichalcum have done. I've been trying to be polite but if you just read this thread alone you would know you're wrong.

Destroying the head tends to result in higher damage because heads have less armor and it leads to catastrophic armor failures, just like blowing a reactor does and the essence of the Player is completely erradicated by these failures.

The innate ability of essence to self repair can be seen alone in the meridian weapons description as for why they resist tachyon energies. Why are you unable to understand these basic things by reading them?
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>>3382292
okay this is my last reply because we have definitely shitted up the thread.

The situation is akin to seeing an open blender on a kitchen counter. Some anons say
>"We need to jam our hand into it really hard and it's core will die in like one turn tops!"
other anons say
>"we should fire a metal rod into the blender after pouring liquid nitrogen into it!"
I mean at least that one has some chance of working right?
I say
>uh, hey why don't we just unplug the power cord from the wall? It will be a lot easier to deal with.

And every anon and his brother goes,
>holy fuck no anon, those blades are made of stainless steel! we could never cut the power to them in a million years because they're made of a really tough metal, and I remember the one single time I had a battery powered blender problem!! Also I cut the power to my friends blender and could never do the same thing twice, ever! because then my blender would know it was coming!

it's one fucking action that we spend zero meter or booster on. And if it works, this part of the fight gets a lot easier.

Sorry if we disagree on our interpretation of events. Even more so if this discussion makes the thread harder to read.

lastly, thanks for your hard work OP. Parsing our conflicting ideas into the semblance of a coherent plan must be difficult sometimes. Know that we sincerely appreciate it.
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>>3364276
yo, OP, do you have the archives for threads 2, 5 and 9, because they arent on suptg. I want to read it but the fact that half the story is missing for some reason kinda makes it hard
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>>3384618
missing Joker quest threads from the archive leads on from thread 2
thread 3: https://archived.moe/tg/thread/19284677/#19284886
3.1: https://archived.moe/tg/thread/19284924/
resumes 3.5( marked as 3 on archives)
thread 5: https://archived.moe/tg/thread/19887421/
thread 98 follows on from 97.5 http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/33373183/ resumes 98.5
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>>3381115
He 100% expects us to fling ourself in the way. His entire fighting style involves throwing people under the bus.
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>>3379550
>>3379572
>>3379574
>>3379661
>>3379811
>>3379969
>>3381115
>>3381481
>>3381562
(Gentlemen, my apologies, but it's been an extremely busy week. To clarify, you're using the following series of actions?)

> Set the Crux to regenerate HP to render your right arm (and the Cestus) usable, while keeping your Sword Bits in a defensive position.
> Drop Fortress Mode on the Gate's controls.
> Tell Kazuya to fire in the incoming projectiles with his Revolve Bazooka.
> Cast EXEC_DISRUPT.
> Load and fire Silver Cartridges (2, if possible) using the Carnifex's ability, while aiming at VOIVOID's oriachulcum core.
> Switch to GOLGOTHA in preparation for the next turn.

Alternatively:

> Fire AXANAEL at VOIVOID, if an opening presents itself - Or as a last-ditch, if defending the controls are otherwise ineffective.

As it's extremely late, I'll get the post up the next time.)
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>>3386582
Alter it like this;

> Set the Crux to regenerate HP to render your right arm (and the Cestus) usable, while keeping your Sword Bits in a defensive position.
> Tell Daegal to switch to Ascalon and go for Vovoid after we fire the Cestus over Dirac and to drop his fortress mode on the controls
> Drop Fortress Mode on the Gate's controls.
> Load and fire Silver Cartridges (2, if possible) for 3 absolute zeros using the Carnifex's ability, while aiming at VOIVOID's oriachulcum core.
> Use axanael + caesar to finish him off
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>>3386612
This please op
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>>3386612
Let's go with this plan, makes the most sense to me. Prefer to not risk the disrupt or Golgotha
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>>3386582
every time you ask us if this is what we want to do it's like my GM saying "are you sure you want to do That?"

alter it so we abruption jet back to Deagals position away from the blades as a free movement, then throw our fortress mode around the core.

that way he can still fortress mode both of us if he needs to.

The rest of the plan seems okay.

>>3386612
>>3386618
>>3386778
I'd prefer Deagal not have to enter Melee with VOIVOD. it hasn't ended well for him so far.
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>>3386831
There are four neutronium weapons we have on hand. Golgotha, Axanael, Ascalon and Adamant. Kazu has two, we have two.

If he could use both the big sword and big shield, we'd be unstoppable.
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>>3388071
I would love to use neutronium weapons if I thought we could get close enough.

I've been wracking my brain trying to think of alternative strategies. for some reason I keep thinking vitae boosted Vulcans are a great idea, but fuck if I could tell you why.

possibly because I suspect that armor piercing still works on Orichalcum? maybe we could counter the mass of the sword field with sheer volume of fire? fuck if I know. I miss the Chainfire.

It's made worse because every time OP asks if we want to do something it means we fucked up somewhere. But this vote had a lot of conflicting ideas so maybe OP just wants clarity?

fuck if I know.

VOIVOD is clearly bluffing, but we just can't afford to take the chance.

I'm not even entirely sure what we would change to call his bluff y'know?
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>>3388302
We could have the Incoms attack him instead of defending the core or try to distract him by making the assault shroud form after images but this is still a pretty potent defense.

Vitae boosted vulcans would be great if he was in orichalcum but if they couldn't break through the armory guardian joker customer's shield I don't see them damaging this guy. Even basic armor piercing, like rubicante, don't work on orichalcum. Even neutronium was only able to destroy it in a barrage.
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>>3388302
>>3388920
I think sniping him with terrorsight might be the ideal reaction in this scenario.

Everything else is too risky. We just need to use the best gun for the job.
Is a neutronium bullet the best? Or maybe the fusion annihilator?
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>>3389049
I was just thinking about that.

Terrorsight can either fire an unstoppable bullet, or one that ignores all armor.

If we could get a clean shot through the knife field we could use terrorsight with Peacemaker to double our critical hit chances and ignore his armor.

or we could use it on Axanel to core straight through the orb and also ignore his armor.

>>3386831
>>3386582
Hey OP can we alter this to
>use Terrorsight to get a guaranteed hit on VOIVOD with Axanel as our first action

>let Deagal do whatever he thinks is best.

>use concussion missiles to blast the incoming blades off course.

>only fire one absolute zero
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>>3389142
>blast the blades off course
They'll cut straight through them and that means some of them will target the blades heading for the Joker's memory.

>>3389049
Do not use terrorsight. We need terrorsight for Black Joker + White Joker. If we don't head back to the real now, we'll be stuck in the Red with no Auspex and no Argus AGAIN and they've already been *incredibly* useful to us since we've arrived in the black.

Our current strategy is fine; three absolute zero blasts will peel away his defenses and freeze him to nothing and if that doesn't work we have, again, the caesar (reloaded with bandlioer cell) and axanael to destroy him, the only weapons that have done damage. And if THAT doesn't work, Daegal comes in with Ascalon and smashes through his defenses with it. And if all of these plans do not work, we can use a nihl boosted smite or disrupt next turn. Please for the love of god do not discard our sensing equipment again, we just got it back and it's been essential in tracking enemies in the melee, using our missiles to full affect and allowing us to get criticals.

>>3386582
Reloading the caesar is a free action with bandlioer cell, right? Do that, thanks.
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>>3386612
Can we please stick with this plan anons. Changing our minds and not coming up with a singular plan of action is gonna fuck us here. It's still to soon for terror sight.
>>3389165
Yes let's reload Caesar it is absolutely key
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>>3389165
We don't even know where to find the white joker, and are actively traveling away from the black joker. We might have to fight some correctors, but it's not like the full force of the smilers is going to be waiting for us the second we leave the Black. for all they know we are dead.

but fine, no terrorsight this turn.
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>>3389207
veto on having Deagal charge in with Ascalon. For one thing he likely can't draw a neutronium weapon that quickly, and for a second it will probably get him killed. He already took some heavy hits protecting us earlier.

Even if Kaz doesn't die, VOIVOD survived a hit from Ascalon followed by a point blank explosion of an entire magazine of tank rounds.

There is no way in hell we could kill him in a single turn. I don't care if he was standing there passively letting us wail on him. Maybe, maybe with Golgotha. if he weren't surrounded by his own personal fuck you field.

Adamant would be a much better choice for Deagal right now. And fuck do I wish it still had it's original capabilities.
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>>3391338
>>3386612
>>3386618
>>3386778
>>3386831

As the hail of blades spits towards the alien spires and rods of the controls – Towards the distant plinth that holds the Joker's Memory – your Assault Shroud dissolves, a nanomaterial haze churning through the air. The damage you've taken has denuded it almost to nothing; But Kazuya sees what you're doing, and he moves at the same time you do.

A jagged, fused barrier – two halves, welded together at the join – coalesces into existence, overlapping hexagons splintering beneath the pelting hail. As swords drive deep into the hyperdense material, the Revolve Bazooka booms away – First one, then a second shell spiralling into the whirring blades. Fire and knives hurtles outwards in every direction at once, the concussive blast of the detonation hurling a rippling shockwave through the static-streaked void-

But more of them are curving away from the fragile containment shell. They punch into the iron like nails, burying themselves all the way to the flights – Or the churning, hailing swords go wide, wrenched back into the furious rotation of VOIVOID's personal storm.

A feint. Just like you expected. VOIVOID – Whatever he has become, in the subject eons of deep time – wants to *live*.

You're still thinking that as – Like pilot fish around a shark – the first swords punch into you.

PROVIDENCE flares. You're running, the tachyon blade moving so fast it is an oblate blur around you – emerald sparks spraying from deflections, smiting aside the hailing swords. Your Sword Bits whirl around you, spinning so fast their oblate fields are wild arcs of disruption fire. Their interlocking fields smash through the torrent of impacts, ploughing a wedge through the oncoming storm-

“Anon, *no*-” Kazuya's shout is strangled, desperate, even as he struggles with the Revolve Bazooka's bulky launcher. “Fucking hell-”

He sees what you're trying to do, as you sprint away from him. He swings around, trying to readdress, to bring another weapon to bear – But a pitch-black blade spears into him, and knocks him off his feet. He stumbles sideways, lurched by the momentum, swearing as the bow-wave of the storm sweeps forward, closer, closer, ready to butcher both of you in a cloud of blades.

VOIVOID rushes forward. His core is nearly impossible to see, now – A decagon five meters across made of sliding, slithering blades, lit from within by a furious light. The leading edge of it has dilated outwards, to form a spinning, shearing maw – Even Daegal's voice is drowned out by the keening steel-on-steel wail, as you smash a path through-

But there's too many, the gleaming finish of your armor already obliterated into a billion raw-metal nicks and scratches – even as a chiming sword punches into your shoulder-guard, jamming the articulation of your left arm. Your HUD is a blur of motion, the furious kick of the Abruption Jets punching into your spine-

(Continued)
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>>3394713

Air. Ground. Air again. Your Tempest Scrander howls as you bank wide.

One cartridge.

Your left arm is barely functioning, PROVIDENCE grasped in a rigid metal core. More swords – Assembled in foul geometric forms, fitting tightly against one another like the teeth of a fractal dragon – rush towards you, complex shapes that twist and writhe in a glittering constellation of severance. It is like facing down an inferno – Being drawn into insides of some pitiless industrial slaughterer-

Two.

But the Crux pumps strength through your limbs. Black Lachryma becomes connection nodes, becomes phantom nerves, becomes synapse junctions and osseous simulators-

You feel the fingers of your right hand twitch. The minute flexion of false processes, the rolling of tiny gears in your knuckles. They close in a slow curl, as the Cestus *racks*, the hydraulic slam of the loaders almost lost in the moaning chatter of the storm.

Three indicator lights – burning fiercely silver – wink to life at the very corner of your field of vision.

If you could smile, you would.

With an effort that sends feedback buzzing through your mind, you *twist*. The Tempest Scrander's rippling wake flares around you, barely outracing the steel-on-stone wail of the revolving storm. The pelting mass's shape has elongated, extending further – taller and thinner – all to reach you with the shearing arc of it's outermost blades.

They find you first. Spinning knives carve into your left leg, severing cables, splintering your autoreactive talons, rending and mauling everything beneath the knee. You hear the brittle *snap* of endosteel bones giving, the shredding blades flaying through your armor plating, raking brutal rents into anything they can reach.

But you have the shot.

A sword takes three fingers of your left hand, and PROVIDENCE slips from your grip. The tachyon blade tumbles at it falls, the crimson lines of the hypercube swallowing it up before it can be sliced into a million pieces.

But you have the shot.

And as you bring the Cestus up – As thought becomes will becomes deed-

Something changes, in the ringing peal of the storm. For a moment, the rotation speed slows. The light of the sun dims, slightly, wavering in intensity. A shift in focus. A realization.

And you hear:

C̜̙̦̎̉E͎͈̠̝̥͔̾̏͋̏ͭ̀S͖̼̩̮T̒̂ͤͦ̀U̼̭̻͑ͦ̿͒ͤS̡̹̘̝̪̝̮͚ͩ͐̾̐ͦ̔

(Continued)
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>>3394714
>C̜̙̦̎̉E͎͈̠̝̥͔̾̏͋̏ͭ̀S͖̼̩̮T̒̂ͤͦ̀U̼̭̻͑ͦ̿͒ͤS̡̹̘̝̪̝̮͚ͩ͐̾̐ͦ̔

Motherfucker.
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>>3394714
Oh my fuck it's Spiral Gigante?
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>>3394714
"Like a rat in a trap. Good bye Spiral."
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>>3394733
>Spiral Gigante
Who?
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>>3394745
The last member of Frost Cestus' group who was still alive when we were in the Black. The last we ever saw him, the coward had come to hate our guts but we ended up separated, his thorny bony bulk falling down a hole.

Makes sense really. He's been alive for a long, long time now.
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>>3394749
Okay fuck you if this is what you're talking about because if so you just made me spend like fifteen minutes scouring the archives for this scene because you remembered the wrong name


Fuesil made it harder. He would talk, to fill the silence; That wheedling, whining voice slowly growing hoarser with each Renewal, his shoulders - Broad and tusked, speaking of monstrous, inhuman strength - slumped. Each time the great wave swept over you, with the spasms and the convulsions that followed, he would flinch away. At first, you'd tried to count how long you'd spent, down here in the dark...But later, you decided - In a world with neither day or night - what was the point?

You'd have told him what an idiot he was, but your voice was wedged up inside you like a jammed round, unable to clear.

The end came when you were crossing the obsidian glaciers, cracking spiderwebbing out from where you put your feet. The slow, treacherous crackle of the stone beneath you was a cunning thing - It played tricks on the mind, made your weight shift, so the slightest slip meant oblivion.

"I can't," Fuesil said, with each step. "I can't."

"-I can't, I can't, I *can't*-"

When it came for you, you didn't really see it. You glimpsed the tusk-like horns, the massive, quasi-humanoid shape, the back-jointed legs and a mouth full of ragged teeth inside a mouth full of ragged teeth inside a gaping, fang-fringed
maw. You glimpsed the round, black, glossy eyes-

The earth shattered beneath it, and sanity fell through the cracks.

> "You bastard! You bastard! Help me - Help me - *Help* me-"

And you-
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>>3394753
Yeah that's the guy. Spiral Fuesil?
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>>3394755
Just Fuesil.
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>>3394714

A voice. An echo – distorted, twisted – from lifetimes ago.

It knows you. It remembers you.

It knows the danger.

Black, angular lines radiate from VOIVOID's furnace-heart. They spear outwards in complex geometric angles. The air seems to thicken, to warp, panes of glossy black material snapping into place – Like card sleights – between the dark lines, lens through which reality are subtly warped.

You fire.

Cold – Raw cold – is the absence of energy. It is all-devouring, all-consuming.

But it has a shape.

The shock of it ripples outwards. Frost blisters across every surface, a coating that flexes and crackles from its own rapid manifestation. There is a glow, a sterile illumination – Something utterly inimical to life – as a sphere of smoke-light flickers into existence, there then gone. There is a sound, like the wind moaning through empty caves, the world snapped into numbing relief.

The smooth orb of utter blackness spews forth. It is like a meteor flung from the epicentre of a vortex detonation, the freezing blast trailing streamers of itself as it rockets forward, like an explosive matter-compression wave. But this is an illusion – It is the outer shell of supercompressed cryogenic material that gives it a form at all, as the shot blasts forward in a seething blur. Collapsing ionic energies swirl around it, as the howling sphere slams into the lattice of blades-

The sphere ruptures. The bow-wave of absolute cold spews forth. The churning mass of black blades seems to lock up, the absence of motion infinitely more shocking than what came before.

Then the next two spheres slam home.

There is a violent *snap*, as the thunderclap of the aftershock blasts outwards. A polar storm erupts within the circumference of the great ring, hoarfrost blistering the air.

There is an ugly, shuddering sound – A machine's gears running into the wrong direction – as the war-shape before you, the thousand churning swords, shatters. It explodes in a hail of glittering shards, lightless steel flying in every direction at once. The colossal *boom* that follows echoes across the seething, flickering void, as space ripples and shreds, slices of black glass snapping into place as the shock wave lashes out in every direction at once.

It slams into you. A hail of shards follows. They slice into your armor, the terrible radiating cold buffeting you as you're flung back, back – The sheer violence of the blast cutting arcs through the air, glittering contrails of lashing, dragging cold fuming outwards in every direction at once.

You hit the ground with a bone-jarring crunch, and tumble in a flurry of metal shards. Somehow, somehow, the talons of your Crisis Arm find a handhold – Gouging furrows into the iron – and you slide slowly, slowly to a shrieking stop.

(Continued)
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>>3394777

It continues to rain steel. Shards of it, hailing down from above. A leaf-shaped blade clatters off your pauldron, tiny fragments embedded in your brutally scarred plate.

“-ker-”

For a moment – Just a moment – you sprawl there. Systems recohering, the pulse of the black heart within you drowning out all other sound. There is a clatter, as silver shell-casings eject from the Cestus, turning slow circles, wisps of vapor coiling upwards from them in reverse-spirals.

“-et-?”

The gleam of gold slides into your field of vision. Daegal sinks to his knees, with a weary groan of hydraulics – He's saying something, something you can't hear, as you force yourself to your feet. Layered armor slides and articulates, static crackling and sliding around you like a spitting shell of energies.

“-get him?”

Meaning coalesces. He's saying:

“Did you get him?”

And above-

Twisting black lines, planes of dark glass folding into themselves. Lightless sparks flicker, as space shudders, flexing and shivering.

“Joker, *did you get him?*

No.

He did what you'd have done. Severed a part of himself, left it behind – Like an animal caught in a trap, gnawing off its own leg to be free. Left the blades scattered in his wake, when he folded himself out of existence, and-

At the far end of the ring – Right before the shorn, sparking conduits left by TRIGON's death – the darkness shifts. Shadows shear and twist apart into new patterns. There is a dreadful buzzing, buzzing, as VOIVOID's war-shape rises out of the dark.

There are gaps in the circling ribbon of blades – Some broken or chipped – that loop around it, cycling in a strained, elongated figure-eight noose. It is hurt, enraged, circling blades wide-spaced and overtaxed, like missing teeth in a jaw.

Daegal flinches back. He makes a sound, a sound that comes out as a low blurt.

A lattice of folded space bulges, and the swords fold together around that burning core. Like an intricate, hinged puzzle. A complex fractal pattern, building itself out of countless geometric shapes. A vague humanoid shape in a buzzing, chiming cloud of agitated blades.

VOIVOID shudders into being, his outline clattering with broken hoarfrost, caked glassily in it. As winds gust, his form is momentarily different – The gleaming gold magnificence of his shape temporarily banished, to reveal something simpler, something more elemental. Broad-shouldered, bulky, bristling with tusks and thorns, like a pagan crown.

Then reality thickens around him, and he is VOIVOID once more.

(Continued)
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His cloak of blades – Hovering around him, like razor pinions – whirrs as it slices the air, hanging like pinions. That impassive, smirking face vanishes, as a mask of gold clamps down around it – A gold-chased blade in each hand, their razor-sharp points drawing scraping lines from the corroded iron below.

And you *know*.

A power that mutilates space, warps it to create multitudes, turns anything into a bullet. You remember that voice, wheedling and whining, grinding away at you the way a stone wears fine.

At the end, you hated him, the way he hated you. For he had forgotten the world above, and you had not.

It's been a long time, Aleph Fuesil.

Now, it's time to settle things, once and for all.

JOKER QUEST

EPISODE 161

TO BE CONTINUED
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>>3394787
(Gentlemen, my apologies for the delay - I was momentarily interrupted. This looks like a natural place to stop, as the thread is about to fall off the board.

Good night and God bless - You've been a wonderful audience, and I look forward to seeing you next time.)
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>>3394787
>It's been a long time, Aleph Fuesil.
It's been six fucking years since that flashback.
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>>3394788
Op will you stick around for a little to answer some questions?
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>>3394787
So his power is spacial control? Isn't that utterly and completely broken?
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>>3394833
So is our entropy element.
If we were 100% Frost Cestus we'd be buttfucking people just by virtue of having an even stronger entropic field and even more options for the cestus.

Having utterly broken inherent abilities isn't all that unusual.
Just look at Haze's "you die" bomb or Calcite Arrow's rock element that he simply didn't utilize as well as he could.

Plus, this is the endgame of his frame, after millenia of fighting and upgrading it. His endless duplication of blades probably took a fuckload of time to create his current arsenal and also a ridiculous amount of meter.
He basically stacked buffs for thousands of years, in preparation for this fight.
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>>3394790
Anyone who isn't dead in JQ *always* comes back.

So, we're low on resources now but we apparently did a *fuckton* of damage and rattled him so we should see what we get back for next turn. I was able to find some info on Orichalcum.

https://pastebin.com/hGTjVWWV
>The Lord of the Hollow Sun, Daegal's armor is forged from orichalcum - Rendering it extraordinarily resilient to anything short of a Neutronium weapon.
So we know we're going to need at least Neutronium to do real damage to him. Right now, our current weapons that can fuck him up are
>Cestus (he doesn't seem to be able to resist frost)
>Axanael (pair with caesar for more damage)
>Golgotha (unlikely but we could get a bunch of health back)
>Exec_Bursts
>Peacemaker
We need to find out how strong the shield/field is right now. It's clear that Fuseil can't actually use the Orichalcum armor to fire his blades at people; mostly he's got his armor and just been using it as material to form blades and then fire them; hard to say exactly how much of the blade forming was Vovoid and how much was Fuseil but the firing is definitely on him; disrupt probably won't affect his ability to make things bullets but it might destroy the blades he makes.

He's used a *ton* of Essence at this point; to create and direct that many smaller blades at once must have taken a ton of power and then he had to end up cutting most of them from the whole while the Absolute Zeroes annihilated him.

It's hard to say what condition we'll be in next turn. On the one hand, we took a ton of damage. On the other, we took a TON of damage so that means more Booster and potentially a bunch of health from how much we fucked him up there.

We've almost completely deleted this guy twice now; once with the edge of the field, now with three Absolute Zeroes. We're running on empty but so is he. I think, after OP gives us a sitrep and we find out how intact the Gate is, we get ready for a Nihl boosted Smite right at this faggot's core.
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>>3394842
>It's hard to say what condition we'll be in next turn. On the one hand, we took a ton of damage. On the other, we took a TON of damage so that means more Booster and potentially a bunch of health from how much we fucked him up there.
Also, our legs might be broken but we have hovermode.
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>>3394787
I called It, I fucking called It. I knew Voivod was one of the ones we knew In the black. And I am oh so happy Absolute Zero worked pretty damn well. Thanks again for the thread OP.

>>3394841
Thinking about a hypothetical scenario where Fuesil escaped and Frost Cestus spent 1,000,000 years In hell maximizing his build In the hopes of escape, we really would be terrifying.

>Ungodly strength
>Strong armor
>Incredibly potent entropic field, massively reducing the damage we take and constantly damaging-debuffing our opponents
>Maximized Meter gain, constantly gaining more meter from Entropic field
>Super-fist with loads of versatility and offensive potential, Incredibly sturdy.
>Unknown amount of unlocked abilities
>Unknown amount of found/Integrated relics
>Potentially we ourselves could be clad In Orichalcum
>Orichalcum Cartridges

>>3394842
>There are gaps in the circling ribbon of blades – Some broken or chipped – that loop around it, cycling in a strained, elongated figure-eight noose. It is hurt, enraged, circling blades wide-spaced and overtaxed, like missing teeth in a jaw.

That looks like a far cry from his 5 meters of certain death. Maybe he has a third of his blades, less I'd like to hope. If we could hold off the 5 meter field temporarily with this smaller and damaged field we could probably make It through If we wanted to go for broke with melee/Golgatha and our Carnifex-Vitae hulk strength overdrive. I almost want to spend Crux on BOOSTER and just fire more Absolute zeroes at the fucker and break more of his swords, but It probably wouldn't work nearly as well twice In a row.
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>>3394790
fun fact: VOIVOD has been trapped in the Black for over two hundred thousand years from his perspective.

>>3394842
he can use spatial manipulation to fire anything as a bullet, or extend the range of a strike. so we aren't close even far away.

BUT, he won't risk destroying the controls so we can use them as a type of cover along with indirect weapons.

The bits are indirect as are missiles. Further, void missiles attack essence directly meaning armor doesn't factor in most likely. if we use them to attack from two sides he has to split his defence.

If he circles around or uses a teleport we can fire Axanel.

also, anti-matter works on everything including Orichalcum as we saw in the proto Deagal fight. meaning the Tau Gun is useful as well.

If he closes we can use providence for a dodge boost and Exec_Consume to regain HP.

Once we have enough Vitae (180%) we can engage lvl 4 black ice and equip Golgotha and go to town on him.
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>>3394842
he hasn't been using meter/reactor to create blades. he's been using the cloak of blades relic. relics don't cost meter or any other resource because they are self fueled. the only time he had to expend power was to warp space to extend the cutting field.

The cloak of blades likely functions like a more offensive based version of the assault shroud. if this is the case, then he's doing pretty well compared to us and Deagal.

your estimation of how "deleted" he is seems shockingly over-optimistic. not surprising considering you thought he had literally been reduced to a floating reactor core.

he has four functioning limbs, torso, and head armor. we are down a ton of health just from fighting his assault shroud variant.
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>>3396476
>He did what you'd have done. Severed a part of himself, left it behind – Like an animal caught in a trap, gnawing off its own leg to be free. Left the blades scattered in his wake, when he folded himself out of existence, and-
>At the far end of the ring – Right before the shorn, sparking conduits left by TRIGON's death – the darkness shifts. Shadows shear and twist apart into new patterns. There is a dreadful buzzing, buzzing, as VOIVOID's war-shape rises out of the dark.
>There are gaps in the circling ribbon of blades – Some broken or chipped – that loop around it, cycling in a strained, elongated figure-eight noose. It is hurt, enraged, circling blades wide-spaced and overtaxed, like missing teeth in a jaw.

Why do you never read the thread?
>it is hurt
>it is enraged
>Severed a part of himself
The orichalcum blades are being self generated otherwise he wouldn't have to *cut* them off and it ties in directly with Fuseil's power. The warform is his essence core surrounded by every single part of his armor turned into blades which is, clearly, a high meter move that puts him in a lot of danger; it's why he had to move his core away while letting the blades take a ton of damage.

It can't be a relic because 1. even if it was a relic, relics have costs and drain energy or meter to fuel themselves like so many of the relics we have (Rubicante + Caganazzo, Tempest Scrander, the Incoms and the Argus) but more importantly 2. Relics are not ever a core part of yourself unless you achieve synthesis with him. But we're fighting a guy who can turn things around him into blades and was attacking us with a fuckton of blades as he's done before.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2531177/
>Hooked blades shear forth from slots in VOIVOD's fingertips. He lashes out, a savage, tearing blow. It misses you entirely, the blades raking through the air inches from your helmet-

The dude makes his swords from his own armor and himself so damaging them this much has hurt him; so much he's had to physically warp and move his body around twice now.
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So, players are named in a Prefix-Suffix manner, with the exception of heavily mutated ones (Palladium Rook was originally meant to become Vogel after his mutation), players without key gear - Bishamon, Daegal, etc. -, Hyades and players who are very unique, like Pazuzu.

Basically, if we used to be Frost Cestus, I wonder whether there's a Fire Cestus or Neutronium Cestus out there.
Or maybe a Tachyon Kaiser.

Mostly I'm writing this because I think it was tangentially related to an epiphany I had yesterday in regards to something in the quest.
And I can't fucking remember.


Anyway
>>3394713
>A feint. Just like you expected. VOIVOID – Whatever he has become, in the subject eons of deep time – wants to *live*.
>>3394787
>At the end, you hated him, the way he hated you. For he had forgotten the world above, and you had not.

I wonder whether he actually wants to enter the Real or not.
Theoretically that would be an avenue for diplomacy.
Practically, he's probably gone too far to even contemplate any course of action that doesn't involve murder in some way.
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>>3397709
The orb was never his "essence core". it was several meters across for fuck sake. it was a special ability he was using in conjunction with his cloak of blades to coat them in Orichalcum.

further, he can create copies of things, it's specifically part of his original powers. that's likely what OP meant by severing part of himself.

Relics don't cost meter, OP has stated this explicitly. It is literally Word of God at this point. Certain relics have costs associated with certain moves or firing modes. The only thing that costs meter to use are meter weapons, hence why they are called "meter weapons".

VOIVOD has spent a lot of resources warping space though I will give you that. The truth remains however that he's come out of this engagement practically unscathed compared to us.
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>>3397948
He wants to go home, but he's so far gone he doesn't even THINK about sharing. It's going home alone or not at all.



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